February 24, 2025 • 46 mins
Scott and Candy talk with Dr Michael Hutchinson about the NeuroGuard+. The system helps jaw position and decrease concussions. #neurogaurd+ #drmichaelhutchinson #jawprotection #sports #athletesbite #jawjoint #strength #endurance #mpouthguard #performance #protection #superbowl59 #neworleans #dentistry #head #neck #neromusculardentristry #grandtraverseresort #thebear #jacknicklaus #detroitlions #traversecitymi #migraines #headaches #swallow #teeth #concussion #muhammadali #skull #notredamefootball #whitehouse #nfl #danielssorenson #kcchiefs #marcusogden #baltimoreravens #golfers #soccer #cheerleading #hockey #tennis #curling #chess #firefighters #policeofficers #construction #lowerjaw #breathing #detroitredwings #bangingteethtogether #lacreosse #donmattingly #miamimarlins #brainstrama #bostonuniversity #concussionmitigation #parkinsonsdisease #alzheimer #insurance #dallusdrake #keithtkuchuk #patverbeck #steveyzerman #boxing #garyplayer
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Happy Monday. Everybody, welcome to another edition. Limits, Yes, there's
no limits. And when you get done with this show here,
you're definitely gonna learn an awful lot And if you're
looking to protect your jaw, I got the man who's
going to help you do it. Didn't save me with
Muhammad Ali when he went ahead and put this by
my job many years ago over at the Allen Park
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Gym in North Miami, but certainly it'd be a great
picture if we ever had it. Anyways, want to obviously,
Candy have Lincoln's on here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome Ken, Thanks Scott. Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And our special guest, doctor Michael Hutchinson, whom I met,
whom we met over a Super Bowl fifty nine and
orly a great show. Doc. Can you give everybody a
little bit of background information about yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Please? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I was watching your graphics and it had the professor
and the pupils. Am I the professor and you guys
are the pupil?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, doctor, what you're talking about almost safe? Like you're
probably the one that got the doctor degree.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Right, that's you?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Bet, I got that. That's something hard working thing to do.
So I've been doing dentistry for thirty eight years, and
probably about thirty of that in the concept called neuromuscular
dentistry that has to do with how your head and
neck and the muscles of your of your jaw and
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everything coordinates and balances you out. And so it's it's
a really growing type of specialty part of dentistry.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And really what we're going to.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Talk about totally came out out of neuromuscular dentistry. So
I practiced in Chicago for eleven years. My wife is
from Chicago. That's where I went to the Loyola Dental School,
and then my whole family, my wife's family moved up
to Traverse City, Michigan, and she wanted to move too,
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So I sold my practice and moved up here twenty
eight years ago, and so I've lived here more than
anywhere in my life. But I say my hometown is ames, Iowa,
where I was eight years old when we moved there
and graduated from high school. My dad was an exercise physiologist,
but played a big part in why I'm here and
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what I did with neural guard.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Plus well, you know, obviously we realize that you're in
Trevor's city, Michigan, home of the Grand Trevers Resort and
home to some of my master and worst golf experiences.
We're talking about the Bear, a Jack Nicholas designed golf course.
I lost more balls and politicians tell lies. Well, maybe
not quite that many, but if you understand the name
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of difficulty with that course and the baron Jack Nicholas.
So I don't mind ad many, but the Bear can
make anybody look bad. So why don't you tell me
about your experiences talking about playing on the Bear? So
for all you destroyed golfers that ever played on that course,
don't worry. This guy plays it a lot, and don't
take it as.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Part of a resort. I'm a member of the Grand
Driver's Resort. They have three golf courses. I've played the
Bear a lot over the years. It's a course you
gotta play right. You can't just hit it, grip it
and rip it, or the bear starts roaring and swallows
up your golf balls. So but I had some fun
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times there.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I still play the Bear a few times a year.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
But I had a hole in one, my first and
ever last hole in one so far, had on the
fourth hole, which is all carry and I used a
five iron and swished it. And I had at the
time just started working with neuro Guard with prototypes and
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understanding the magnitude of what this discovery would bring about.
And it's funny because I learned a lesson on the bear.
I was playing by myself, and it was early in
the morning. I'd like to I like to go early,
like six thirty, because that's when they let the first
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people out, and then I can sometimes play two balls
and I don't have anybody in front of me. And
the bear is so famous in Michigan that a lot
of people come up from Detroit who's probably never hit
a golf ball and then go and play on the Bear,
and it just takes forever because they're so slow.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So I like to go out early.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And along came this gentlemen who really looked like an athlete,
and my interest peeked up and I started talking to you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
He wanted to play through, and so I let him go.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And as he was there, I was talking to him
and he told me that he was one of the
trainers for the Detroit Lions, and I'm like, oh, well,
let me tell you, and I told him all about it.
He thought it was a really good idea, and he said,
our trainer, our team doctor, would be very interested in
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what you're telling me. And I said, well, love to
talk to him. And so he connected me with the
team doctor, and boy was that an experience. Turned out
that the doctor had no interest to whatsoever. He thought
I was trying to steal his job as team doctor
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and told me that he didn't care about it. He
didn't it didn't work. He just like totally shut me down.
And I learned then that I was thinking righteously. I thought, man,
I can help so many people. And I thought at
the time, when the Lions are zero to nine, if
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I made them stronger, they'd end up in the super
Bowl and I'd be a genius. But I found out
that there's no way I was going to get near
the Lions with their team doctor around. And I learned
that a little bit about human nature, that there's a
lot of people who don't care about helping other people.
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They only care about themselves right, and their situation and
their good gig they have. And so that helped me
learn a lot of other lessons like that along the way.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Pretty good. I have a bunch of questions are going
to get to. Candy will take over at the very
end and provide her input. Well, let's talk about the
new regard plass. It's the system that allows you to
mess sure the degree of anatomical deficiency and your unique
job position, and we'll correct any deficiency with the patent
combination design. So explain what that means to our audience.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, what we found out was that when your jaw
we found it. Let's first say that we learned in
treating head and neck pain patients that there was a
optimal perfect job position for every individual, and most of
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us are not in that position. So we suffer headaches, migraines,
neck pain, back pain, balance issues, neurological issues, fingers, tingling
or ringing in your ear. All those kinds of things
have a root with the with the jaw position. So
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if you can contract, you can correct that job position.
All of those symptoms go away, and including migraines and
chronic headaches. And something that was coined called TMJ which
is an acronym for the joint of your skull, the
temporo mandibular joint.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So when I started.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Doing that, I found that putting them in that position
corrected all of their trouble and their pain, and they
lived happily ever after, and they would tell me that
they had strength and stamina and they didn't feel tired anymore.
This having a background, Like I said, my dad was
an exercise physiologist and we were huge sports fans in
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Iowa and Iowa State, and I just thought, man, if
I can, if I can make Missus Jones stronger, Oh
what happened? If I took an NFL team and made
them stronger, they end up in the super Bowl and
I'd be a genius.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I just started to see how that worked.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And that's kind of the evolution of how neuralguard came
to be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, the neuroguard is a de IY kit to maintain
your exact and strong lower jaw alignment during sports. Please
elaborate on that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So when I was I'm a dentist, of course, a
neuromuscular dentist. I make mouthguards all the time. I mean
I was taught in dental school how to do it,
and and you know, we're the experts, and mouthguards were dentists.
But when I learned of this unique body mechanism called
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physiologic job position, I had to figure out a way
that any kid, any person could easily do it for
themselves and not have to have me do it for them.
And so the DIY is there's a certain way to
get obtain that mechanism, and there's the only one way
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to do it, and we do it with our autonomic
nervous system, the one that we don't control. Basically, we
put it in our lower jaw and then we swallow,
and that swallowing mechanism puts our jaw in its physiologic
job position while the softer material is cooling down. So
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a person takes a measurement to figure out where there
where their physiologic job position should be. If they have
to add material, there's material there to add. If they don't,
they don't need it. And then they just warm it up,
put it on their lower teeth and bring their lips
together like they're going to give you a kiss, and
swallow five times.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Any kid can do that, any person.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Can do that, And that's how the standard neural guard
plus came to be.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, the neural guard plus is designed around the athlete's byte.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, like I said, everyone has a physiologic bite. The
problem is with all the genetic cross mingling, the food
we eat, the way we develop. There's always a deficiency
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where we don't reach the genetic uh.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Potential.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So maybe our jaws a little bit smaller on the
bottom than top, or vice versa, or there's some area
where your upper jaws turned, or there's some discrepancy in
that that kicks you out of your perfect job position.
So everyone has that, and so we grow up how
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we grow up, and we don't really know the difference really,
but there is this blockage of how our teeth fit
together that impedes nerve information to our muscles and causes
us to be less strong as we should be.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
After the ne Reguard plus is installed correctly, your jaws
joint will be in the optimum position, providing minimum strength
and enduring performance and protection.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Please elaborate now, this is where the concussion mitigation or
reduction comes into play.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If you look.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
In a textbook about the temporal mandibular joint, you'll see
that it's a ball in a socket and it fits
into that socket into your upper jaw and skull, and
it needs to sit right in the center of the socket.
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And this is where the problem is. Physical job position
is right in the center. And if our bite is
not correct, let's say it's open too much, then our
ball rolls forward.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And touches the front of the skull.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And then when you receive a Muhammad Ali blow to
the chin, it gets carried all the way up to
your brain, and vice versa. If you're biting down too far,
it rolls back and touches the back, and like an
electric current, when you get a blow to the face,
it carries it up to the brain through the cradle
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of the brain, which is called the sphenoid bone, and
it sits on top of that bone where the joint.
The joint fits right in there, so again it just
carries it like a conduit. So if you separate that out,
the force can't jump across the gap and has to
be dissipated away from It has to go somewhere, and
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it goes out way out into your body and doesn't
affect your brain.
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Speaker 2 (15:01):
Back to you, Scott, Thank you, Candy.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
All right, I have two more questions. I'm gonna let
Candy take over. So why is this the best wealth
guard available?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, that's easy.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Mouthguards that everybody's familiar with is seventy five years old.
Invented in nineteen fifty to keep people from banging their
teeth together and shipping and fracturing them. There was an
article in Life magazine about some Notre Dame football players
that were breaking their teeth, and that motivated the American
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Dental Association to come up with a mouth guard to
keep that from happening. They didn't know anything about physiologic
job position back then. All they were trying to do
is keep it from banging your teeth together. It doesn't
help you from keep getting your teeth knocked out. The
force to do that is so much greater than the
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plastic that you have that it just can't it can't
prevent that. The only thing it was made for is
slapping your teeth together and breaking them. So physiologic job
position is totally different. It does the same thing because
there's a piece of plastic between your teeth, but in
addition to it positions your jaw in that physiologic job position,
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which is what we talked about, and doing that you
get increased strength, oxygen balance, you can talk normally, and
it dissipates the g forces of a concussion away from
your brain. There's no other mouth appliance that can do that.
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Only Neuralguard Plus, which is patented with a medical utility patent,
and it's a normal body mechanism that can only be
done one way, so you can't really copy it in
any other way. It only works one way, and so
that's the that's the key and the ramifications in a
positive way of neuro Guard plus it does all that
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for you and no other appliance can.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Have you had any interest from the NFL teams that
are interested in using the product.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I've had a little bit of interest from the teams.
Those are really hard to do. There's so much that
goes on with that. I kind of like to use
the analogy of like I heard, I read of a
story a guy who wanted to talk to the President
of the United States back in eighteen forty five. So
he just went to Washington and knocked on the White
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House door and the President came and talked to him.
We can't do that now. I don't even know if
that's even possible to talk to the president ever. And
that's the thing, you know, It's like, you know, that's
the thing about it is that I fell as almost untouchable.
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But I have had a lot of players, and I
guess the best example that I could use is Daniel Sorenson,
who played for the Chiefs eight years two Super Bowls.
Started out as an invited, non drafted practice player and
quickly moved up to starting safe free safety and played
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with the Chiefs for eight years, two super Bowls with
no concussions. And he once told me he felt invincible
with it, and if you are familiar with him, he
was reckless, abandoned and he just got it because my
brother was out there at BYU where he graduated from,
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and his wife actually babysat my brother's kids, and he said, here,
take this mouthguard to the Chiefs. It's going to help
you out. And he said, okay, and he did it.
And eight years he played in the NFL free safety
without a concussion, and I think that's probably the only
person who ever has done that in the history of
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the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Great, Now, what Octon were you talking about earlier in
our pre produs.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Marcus Marcus Ogden's brother played. He played in the NFL,
and he's a Hall of Fame inductee. And Marcus played,
uh started at Howard University and then he got he
got drafted in the NFL and played seven years for
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the Baltimore Ravens. And he is a very big advocate
of neural guard plus. His daughter wears it in her
basketball games, and he wears it still working out. He boxes,
he lifts weights, does cardio, and he loves neural guard
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plus because it gives him all those benefits that physiologic
job position will give you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I have one more question. I'm gonna save it after
Candy is done. Go ahead, Candy take over.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So, doctor Mike, what age would you start to wear
one of these?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I designed it so any kid could do it, and
even the younger ones, their parents could could help them
do it. And so usually I say a target age
of five, but that's just that's just because that kids
that age, or there's a lot of kids that are
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just starting to do little sports.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But you know a three.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Year old could do it too, if if you had
somebody who you know was ahead of the game. So kids,
I recommend that they change them every year because they
they just grow and it's just not going to fit.
And I also recommend the kids that they don't chew
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on it because it's your own personal physiologic job position.
And when you chew on it, you change the shape
of it, you make it thinner and thinner. It makes
you weaker. It doesn't work so and it doesn't protect you.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I always tell kids, do not chew on this
m so any sport, any sport.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I've tested golfers who hit the ball farther. I've tested
soccer players, hockey, a lot of women's sports because women
have half the next structure as men, so they are
twice as susceptible to a concussion. Cheerly has been a
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big one right now. We have a huge following with
the National Flyers. A lot of acrobatics, they get a
lot of concussions. Cheerleading would be one that you would
not think of wearing a mouth appliance because you got
to talk. But with the neural guard, that's not a
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problem because it's on your lower jaw underneath your tongue
and doesn't get in the way, so you can do
your chairs, you can talk, and it keeps your jaw
in that right position so you can catch your flyer,
you can throw up your flyer, you can be a flyer.
And so that's one that people are really shocked by
that cheerleaders are wearing neural guard. Plus any sport, tennis, lacrosse, motocross,
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even curling. I mean, if you if you need balance,
and strength. In your sport, you're gonna need physiologic jopposition,
you're gonna need neuroguard. I've had several skiers, Olympic skier,
you name it, anything but chess. You don't really need
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it for chess. But I got a guy. I got
a guy that moses lawn with it. He's seventy years
old and he's got two acres and he likes to
get out there and exercise. And he just told me
he just by the time we got to the end
of the two acres, he was about ready to pass out.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And now he can mow it no problem.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So he loves it. And I always think that's the
greatest thing. Is not really a sport, but it's a
physical activity. And even even fire fighters and police officers,
these are very physical construction workers. If you're a construction
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worker and you do heavy lifting and you have a
deficient jaw position, it's gonna wear you out. So it
touches every physical activity that you can think of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And you said it's it's a lower guard.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Right, absolutely lower, And it has to be there because
that's the movable part of the skull. It's the only
part of the skull that can make that job position correctly.
You can't move your upper jaw, only the lower jaw moves,
so that's why you have to have it on the
lower jaw and you get those extra benefits. It opens
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your airway and you can talk and breathe.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
So my question is is because I was doing some
research and I looked on your website and I saw
that you have the red Wings logo on there, and
I'm like, so if he has a hockey player as
a hockey player, I understand protecting the lower, but I
would think they also have to have a mouth guard
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on the upper to protect their teeth because I think
they get hit from both.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So do they.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Wear then the old school on the upper and then
yours on the.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Lower or.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Absolutely not? Okay, And I'm going to answer your question
with a question because I get this question a lot
and it helps us think of what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Now, remember the.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Seventy five years ago, the American Dental Association made a
mouthguard and where did they put it. They put it
on the top, because what were they trying to do.
They were trying to keep you from banging your teeth
together vertically breaking your teeth also a logical school of
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thought back then, and they didn't really understand how the
mechanism worthy. Their ideas were limited, and they use some
common sense. If you if you look at what the
perfect bite is, it's the low it's the lower jaw
tucked under the upper teeth. So they called that, They
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called that the leading arch. So if you took off
and ran and face planted into a wall, the first
teeth that would hit would be your upper teeth, and
so that's why they put it on the upper. But again, uh,
the force that it takes to knock a tooth out
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is so great that the plastic of a mouthguard, even
narrow guard, is not strong enough to keep you from
knocking a tooth if you get a puck in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And it's that much force, it's gonna knock your tooth
out whether you have a mouth guard. And this is
very well spelled out on the American Dental Association website
that mouthguards do not keep you from getting your teeth
knocked out. So, to answer your question, if I put
it on the upper, what's going to protect my lower teeth?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
M hm, Right, If I.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Put it on the lower, what's going to protect my
upper teeth. It's because we're not protecting that, not what
it was ever designed for. So that's really kind of
an illogical way of thinking. But when you put it
on the lower arch, you get the physiology part of
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it that makes you more balanced, stronger in your and
your strength output, and positions your jaw in that physiologic
job position, and dissipates the forces of concussion. That's why
it goes on the lower teeth. It still protects you
from banging your teeth together.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Right right, of course, of course, So is there a
is there a sport that you think has.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Adapted to the neuroguard.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Or welcomed it more or is out there using it
more than some of the others, And which sport would
it surprise us? Which sport isn't hasn't you know, used
it as much as we would think, I.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Would say lacrosse. You know, it's all about and this
is the difficult thing when you discover something that is
life changing and then it's just you against the world,
you know, and uh, and it's such a it's such
a paradigm shift. The analogy I like to use for
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this is if you know about galileo, he said, the
evidence shows that the Earth orbits around the Sun with
the planets, and Pope Urban Fifth, who was a pope
at the time in sixteen thirty three, said that's heresy.
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The Bible says the Earth will not be moved, so
therefore the Sun goes around the Earth. And if you
don't stop teaching that, I'm going to put you in jail.
And Galileo said, well, I'm sorry, but that's how it works.
And Galileo died in jail because he would not stop
teaching the truth even though the authority of the day
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told him that he was wrong. And that's kind of
the same thing of what I'm doing, is we have
this seventy five year old mouthguard, and it's almost like
me coming to you and saying I found the true
religion and you need to come and be in my religion.
Now that's just not gonna happen. So it's so it's
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sort of like me when I when I learned this
and started to develop it and test it against the world,
right they I didn't have the resources, and still I'm
working with that to tell everyone and really, truthfully, that's
why I appreciate you guys so much, because you have followers,
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you have people who listen to you, and I can
guarantee you they've never heard of this before. Now they're
going to walk away and they're going to be changed
because I don't know if you guys have had concussions
or know somebody who's had a concussion.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But yeah, I know, I'm tell me about yours. Tell
me my concussions. Yeah, they hurt. I don't like them,
and now I have Alzheimer's disease because of it. I
took a couple of major balls, and I'll tell you
I was in post concussions, post protocol or whatever you
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want to call it, and then I thought the advice
of Don mattically of them at that time, was of
the Marli says, Scott, You've got to be patial of
this thing. I've had players have to deal with this stuff.
But it's not easy. Yeah, ancients is not easy with concussion.
People don't get it.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They don't wonder you can get You can get one
concussion and it will haunt you your whole life.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well I've had two and I may have well I
may have other ones, and I've decided to do while
you're on here, I will donate my brain to Boston
University so they can find out, well what i'tly had
the concussions, but why the Alzheimer's. I was diagnosed around
sixty one, when most people end up getting it around
seventy seventy two. So you're onto some one concussion that
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message out two gets worse than they And I don't
know how many other ones I've had due to hits
in the head, but these are the two diagnosed ones
I've had.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I know, And that's the thing. We're finding more and
more out about it. But the frustration is we're not
really focusing on prevention as much as we should. We're
focusing on how to treat it. We still don't know
how to treat them very well. People have different ideas
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of what to do. Right now, it seems like the
focus is, let's find out how much force it takes
to get a concussion, but we're not focusing on how
do we mitigate a concussion? How do we stop it?
And that's that's where this comes into play. We have
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a point two percent concussion rate that's almost zero. And
what's cool about it is is that they've been studying
concussions for decades and the incident rate stays kind of
the same, fluctuates a little bit, but you know, stays
right around ten reported, ten percent unreported, so twenty percent
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concussions every year. There's three point six million concussions every year.
It stays the same. And then you bring physiologic job
position in their neuralguard plus and the concussion rate drops
down ninety nine point ninety eight percent, down to almost zero.
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It tells you that this part of the body, which
is ignored and not studied and totally discarded, is the
missing link. It's the missing link of concussion mitigation. There
isn't a parent, a mother, a coach, an athlete that
shouldn't be wearing this appliance. It's like when you and
(33:50):
I were growing up and somebody, one of our friends
called us on the telephone. We went to the wall
and picked up the phone and talked to them. That
was great, but we couldn't like, look at the restaurant
they wanted to go to, uh, while we are talking
to them. We couldn't do by any of that. And
(34:12):
so nowadays who has a wall phone? Nobody, right, And
so it's like this, we have the technology, we have
the understanding, but we keep using this old, antiquated mouthguard
that that really hurts you and it's not safe, and
(34:37):
we just keep using it because that's our that's our habit,
that's our We don't know anything different, and the emphasis
of study has not been on it. So that's the
that's the whole important part of Neuroguard plus is that
now we can make you safer and everyone, and we
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can help you play better as well.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
So I have a question if neuroguard does what it
and maybe you might want to answer this, and maybe
you won't.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know. But if it is as good as
it is and it saves as.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Much, wouldn't insurance companies be behind this like completely to
help mitigate so that they don't have the expense like
the medical expenses after the fact. Like, let's face it,
anyone that gets Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, those are expensive diseases that
stem from concussions and blows to the head. So wouldn't
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maybe you don't want to answer, I don't know if
you want to answer that or not, but I would
think insurance companies would get behind this device with all
the research that you have behind you.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You would think, But.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Insurance is based on risk mm hmm versus rewards, and
they want to have as much reward as they possibly can.
Just take your pick, who's got the tallest buildings in
your favorite big city.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh yeah, to go to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
It's all State Prudential. They have the tallest buildings. And
they don't get them by paying out all the money
that you wanted to pay out. They get them by
not paying as much money as.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
They possibly can. So I would love it. I mean,
I think.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've gone I've been working with the military and just
just the amount of money that they would save preventing
concussions with their soldiers is astronomical, and they're sort of
very interested in it. But it's just again talk about
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red tape, and you know, nobody can make a decision,
and so it sort of sort of goes around and
around and around, you know, So insurance companies, I mean,
this is what I deal with in dentistry, is that
if they can get out of it, they will, And
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if they can teach you that I'm not doing the
right thing so that you won't do it, that's the
money goes into their tall buildings. I hate to be
like a naysayer, but I mean, insurance companies are not
in the business of paying out you money for their
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benevolent causes.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Right, I can't You have one or two more questions
you want to ask them?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So what kind of cost is involved with Well?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I had to make it so that anybody could get
one and fit it at home, and it was very
easy and affordable.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
And so.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
You can get the standard one for forty four ninety
seven and you can order it and it'll come to
your house and you can heat up the water, fit
yourself and off you go.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Super affordable.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Uh, And that's what we had to do. Now we
have other more precision appliances for professional and higher level
athletes that requires that requires me getting together with them
and actually doing a custom appliance. But on an everyday basis,
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you can order the standard Neural Guard plus comes to
you and you can fit it yourself and off you go.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
All right, So you say that cost is just a
one time cost straight and and then the patient goes on, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
One time cost for one, but if like you're a
kid or growing a kid, you would buy one new
one every years as your jaw chain your mouth and
you grow right, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Right, since we talked about the Red Wings, it just
came to mind wire I have to do this. Detroit
Red Wings traded goaltender Billy Whoso to the Anaheim Ducks
in exchange for future considerations. The teams are out Monday.
Whoso recorded an eight sixty six say percentage in nine
games with the Red Wings this season. He spent most
of the campaign in the AHL where he's man in
a time to twelve same percentage and thirteen apparents. So
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guess what Whoso is headed to Disneyland. I had to
put that in there. You talk about the Wings that
give him a little information about the trade that would
never really get much consideration on there, but on a
night light tonight, and why not? They just got done
with the Ducks and now they shift Whoso out to
Anaheim or where he's head and maybe the Ducks get
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a little bit of depth there. But remember the relationship
between Steve Eiserman and Pat Verbeek. I know you're a
Red Wings fan. I just thought i'd go out there
and mention that as well.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
So I started with the Saint Louis Blues. But the
guy that I played golf with and shot a hole
in one was Dallas Drake and he lived up here
in Traverse City, and so I started with him and
Keith Kachuk and just kept adding more and more of
their team throughout the year. And then Dallas went on
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to win a Stanley Cup with the Red Wings and
he was wearing my appliance that I made him for
that game that they won the Stanley Cup. So, yeah,
hockey hockey as a big sport for the need of
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neural Guard plus. Yes, boxing, I have boxers, and now
they're ones that need a little adaptation for the upper
because the incisal teeth tend to cut their lip when
they get punched in the face, and so if you
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can dull that down a little bit, it doesn't happen
as much. And so we have to make them a
customized little one millimeter thin mouth appliance. It doesn't affect
the physiologic job position to keep them from getting cut
so quickly.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Okay, So doc, what's your website and and where do
you get.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
At neural guard plus dot com?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And if you use the promo code n G ten
you can get ten percent off. So that's neuralguard plus
dot com.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Now I should let everybody know in the audience that
we're looking forward to have DOT on a couple of
other shows, Three Chicks in a Pod, Flash Chicks and Sausa,
we'll have them on, and we're also going to bring
them on inside the Piskin at some point as well.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I want to make sure we brought them here on
no limits first to give everybody opportunity to study this
product and get to know Dot from us, and then
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And of course Doc is on here talking about Regard
Plus and again we met Doc over at Super Bowl
fifty nine down in New Orleans and the fit was
obviously natural. We're just so glad that Doc is that
an opportunity to spend part of his evening here on
Monday night after this show here we have an innate
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possibly Mark Meriday. I hope you can join us of
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Speaker 5 (43:30):
Doc One of the things I'd like to ask from
you is if you could email us your logo and
I would a link to obviously the website. Then what
I can do is I can put those up on
our website as well as this broadcast, so if anyone
is interested, they can click right from our website to
your to your link to your website so they can
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purchase these great, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Of our stuff.
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about this great product, and he did, and we're like, oh,
we need to have you on a broadcast. And look,
(44:21):
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can think of. Get you out there and help and
help the public, because that's what we're that's what we're
here to do, is to inform them and help them.
So I'm so happy that you've been a guest on
the show.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Scott.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Back to you, all right, well, Doc, you know, for
anybody playing the bear in Trevers City, it's much because
by the time you go out there will your teeth
and your jaw and you start pulling your hair out.
You got to have it on there. I'd be the
first one admit that I'd be known on my job
or playing that golf course. Seriously, really, I mean that's
a bear as why they call it the bear. But
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you talk about Gary Player, let me ask you, do
you know if the Gary player ever played on the pair.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
I don't think so he came and played his course,
but I don't know for sure if he did. Maybe
he did since he was there. Maybe I'll just go
play Jack's course.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Right, So for those people do want to know, we're
talking golf golf man. So here you have it, Gary Player,
Jack Nicholas, doctor Michael Hutchinson here on No Limits, and
I once again underneath such as baseball follows the show.
So meanwhile, that said, that does wrap up this sedition
of No Limits. Hope you share this broadcast show to
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everybody out there. Everybody can benefit by it. Doc has
already provided a great example of why everyone could use it. It's
not limited to just anybody. And the fact that you
say that even kids three years old absolutely buols me away,
so that's unbelieble. And then you bring up curling of
all sports. Absolutely, I mean that one shocked me there, so.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
So thanks for having me. It was it was.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
For you Canadian viewer. So for you Canadian viewers out
there and you're playing curly, reach doctor, doctor Michael Hutchins,
so on behalf of candy. I'm believing in doctor Michael Hutchinson.
My name is Scott Morgan, Rocks, Motor City Man. We
thank you for joining us on this edition at Olynnex.
All right, he said, I'll talk to follow us. Good night, everybody.
See you at the top of the hour. Find out
Happy Monday. Everybody, welcome to another edition. Limits, Yes, there's
no limits. And when you get done with this show here,
you're definitely gonna learn an awful lot And if you're
looking to protect your jaw, I got the man who's
going to help you do it. Didn't save me with
Muhammad Ali when he went ahead and put this by
my job many years ago over at the Allen Park
(00:43):
Gym in North Miami, but certainly it'd be a great
picture if we ever had it. Anyways, want to obviously,
Candy have Lincoln's on here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome Ken, Thanks Scott. Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And our special guest, doctor Michael Hutchinson, whom I met,
whom we met over a Super Bowl fifty nine and
orly a great show. Doc. Can you give everybody a
little bit of background information about yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Please? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I was watching your graphics and it had the professor
and the pupils. Am I the professor and you guys
are the pupil?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, doctor, what you're talking about almost safe? Like you're
probably the one that got the doctor degree.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Right, that's you?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Bet, I got that. That's something hard working thing to do.
So I've been doing dentistry for thirty eight years, and
probably about thirty of that in the concept called neuromuscular
dentistry that has to do with how your head and
neck and the muscles of your of your jaw and
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everything coordinates and balances you out. And so it's it's
a really growing type of specialty part of dentistry.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And really what we're going to.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Talk about totally came out out of neuromuscular dentistry. So
I practiced in Chicago for eleven years. My wife is
from Chicago. That's where I went to the Loyola Dental School,
and then my whole family, my wife's family moved up
to Traverse City, Michigan, and she wanted to move too,
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So I sold my practice and moved up here twenty
eight years ago, and so I've lived here more than
anywhere in my life. But I say my hometown is ames, Iowa,
where I was eight years old when we moved there
and graduated from high school. My dad was an exercise physiologist,
but played a big part in why I'm here and
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what I did with neural guard.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Plus well, you know, obviously we realize that you're in
Trevor's city, Michigan, home of the Grand Trevers Resort and
home to some of my master and worst golf experiences.
We're talking about the Bear, a Jack Nicholas designed golf course.
I lost more balls and politicians tell lies. Well, maybe
not quite that many, but if you understand the name
(03:05):
of difficulty with that course and the baron Jack Nicholas.
So I don't mind ad many, but the Bear can
make anybody look bad. So why don't you tell me
about your experiences talking about playing on the Bear? So
for all you destroyed golfers that ever played on that course,
don't worry. This guy plays it a lot, and don't
take it as.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Part of a resort. I'm a member of the Grand
Driver's Resort. They have three golf courses. I've played the
Bear a lot over the years. It's a course you
gotta play right. You can't just hit it, grip it
and rip it, or the bear starts roaring and swallows
up your golf balls. So but I had some fun
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times there.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I still play the Bear a few times a year.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
But I had a hole in one, my first and
ever last hole in one so far, had on the
fourth hole, which is all carry and I used a
five iron and swished it. And I had at the
time just started working with neuro Guard with prototypes and
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understanding the magnitude of what this discovery would bring about.
And it's funny because I learned a lesson on the bear.
I was playing by myself, and it was early in
the morning. I'd like to I like to go early,
like six thirty, because that's when they let the first
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people out, and then I can sometimes play two balls
and I don't have anybody in front of me. And
the bear is so famous in Michigan that a lot
of people come up from Detroit who's probably never hit
a golf ball and then go and play on the Bear,
and it just takes forever because they're so slow.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So I like to go out early.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And along came this gentlemen who really looked like an athlete,
and my interest peeked up and I started talking to you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
He wanted to play through, and so I let him go.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And as he was there, I was talking to him
and he told me that he was one of the
trainers for the Detroit Lions, and I'm like, oh, well,
let me tell you, and I told him all about it.
He thought it was a really good idea, and he said,
our trainer, our team doctor, would be very interested in
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what you're telling me. And I said, well, love to
talk to him. And so he connected me with the
team doctor, and boy was that an experience. Turned out
that the doctor had no interest to whatsoever. He thought
I was trying to steal his job as team doctor
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and told me that he didn't care about it. He
didn't it didn't work. He just like totally shut me down.
And I learned then that I was thinking righteously. I thought, man,
I can help so many people. And I thought at
the time, when the Lions are zero to nine, if
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I made them stronger, they'd end up in the super
Bowl and I'd be a genius. But I found out
that there's no way I was going to get near
the Lions with their team doctor around. And I learned
that a little bit about human nature, that there's a
lot of people who don't care about helping other people.
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They only care about themselves right, and their situation and
their good gig they have. And so that helped me
learn a lot of other lessons like that along the way.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Pretty good. I have a bunch of questions are going
to get to. Candy will take over at the very
end and provide her input. Well, let's talk about the
new regard plass. It's the system that allows you to
mess sure the degree of anatomical deficiency and your unique
job position, and we'll correct any deficiency with the patent
combination design. So explain what that means to our audience.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, what we found out was that when your jaw
we found it. Let's first say that we learned in
treating head and neck pain patients that there was a
optimal perfect job position for every individual, and most of
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us are not in that position. So we suffer headaches, migraines,
neck pain, back pain, balance issues, neurological issues, fingers, tingling
or ringing in your ear. All those kinds of things
have a root with the with the jaw position. So
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if you can contract, you can correct that job position.
All of those symptoms go away, and including migraines and
chronic headaches. And something that was coined called TMJ which
is an acronym for the joint of your skull, the
temporo mandibular joint.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So when I started.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Doing that, I found that putting them in that position
corrected all of their trouble and their pain, and they
lived happily ever after, and they would tell me that
they had strength and stamina and they didn't feel tired anymore.
This having a background, Like I said, my dad was
an exercise physiologist and we were huge sports fans in
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Iowa and Iowa State, and I just thought, man, if
I can, if I can make Missus Jones stronger, Oh
what happened? If I took an NFL team and made
them stronger, they end up in the super Bowl and
I'd be a genius.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I just started to see how that worked.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And that's kind of the evolution of how neuralguard came
to be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, the neuroguard is a de IY kit to maintain
your exact and strong lower jaw alignment during sports. Please
elaborate on that.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So when I was I'm a dentist, of course, a
neuromuscular dentist. I make mouthguards all the time. I mean
I was taught in dental school how to do it,
and and you know, we're the experts, and mouthguards were dentists.
But when I learned of this unique body mechanism called
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physiologic job position, I had to figure out a way
that any kid, any person could easily do it for
themselves and not have to have me do it for them.
And so the DIY is there's a certain way to
get obtain that mechanism, and there's the only one way
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to do it, and we do it with our autonomic
nervous system, the one that we don't control. Basically, we
put it in our lower jaw and then we swallow,
and that swallowing mechanism puts our jaw in its physiologic
job position while the softer material is cooling down. So
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a person takes a measurement to figure out where there
where their physiologic job position should be. If they have
to add material, there's material there to add. If they don't,
they don't need it. And then they just warm it up,
put it on their lower teeth and bring their lips
together like they're going to give you a kiss, and
swallow five times.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Any kid can do that, any person.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Can do that, And that's how the standard neural guard
plus came to be.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Okay, the neural guard plus is designed around the athlete's byte.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, like I said, everyone has a physiologic bite. The
problem is with all the genetic cross mingling, the food
we eat, the way we develop. There's always a deficiency
(11:30):
where we don't reach the genetic uh.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Potential.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So maybe our jaws a little bit smaller on the
bottom than top, or vice versa, or there's some area
where your upper jaws turned, or there's some discrepancy in
that that kicks you out of your perfect job position.
So everyone has that, and so we grow up how
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we grow up, and we don't really know the difference really,
but there is this blockage of how our teeth fit
together that impedes nerve information to our muscles and causes
us to be less strong as we should be.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
After the ne Reguard plus is installed correctly, your jaws
joint will be in the optimum position, providing minimum strength
and enduring performance and protection.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Please elaborate now, this is where the concussion mitigation or
reduction comes into play.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If you look.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
In a textbook about the temporal mandibular joint, you'll see
that it's a ball in a socket and it fits
into that socket into your upper jaw and skull, and
it needs to sit right in the center of the socket.
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And this is where the problem is. Physical job position
is right in the center. And if our bite is
not correct, let's say it's open too much, then our
ball rolls forward.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And touches the front of the skull.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
And then when you receive a Muhammad Ali blow to
the chin, it gets carried all the way up to
your brain, and vice versa. If you're biting down too far,
it rolls back and touches the back, and like an
electric current, when you get a blow to the face,
it carries it up to the brain through the cradle
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of the brain, which is called the sphenoid bone, and
it sits on top of that bone where the joint.
The joint fits right in there, so again it just
carries it like a conduit. So if you separate that out,
the force can't jump across the gap and has to
be dissipated away from It has to go somewhere, and
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it goes out way out into your body and doesn't
affect your brain.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:01):
Back to you, Scott, Thank you, Candy.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
All right, I have two more questions. I'm gonna let
Candy take over. So why is this the best wealth
guard available?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, that's easy.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Mouthguards that everybody's familiar with is seventy five years old.
Invented in nineteen fifty to keep people from banging their
teeth together and shipping and fracturing them. There was an
article in Life magazine about some Notre Dame football players
that were breaking their teeth, and that motivated the American
(15:34):
Dental Association to come up with a mouth guard to
keep that from happening. They didn't know anything about physiologic
job position back then. All they were trying to do
is keep it from banging your teeth together. It doesn't
help you from keep getting your teeth knocked out. The
force to do that is so much greater than the
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plastic that you have that it just can't it can't
prevent that. The only thing it was made for is
slapping your teeth together and breaking them. So physiologic job
position is totally different. It does the same thing because
there's a piece of plastic between your teeth, but in
addition to it positions your jaw in that physiologic job position,
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which is what we talked about, and doing that you
get increased strength, oxygen balance, you can talk normally, and
it dissipates the g forces of a concussion away from
your brain. There's no other mouth appliance that can do that.
(16:43):
Only Neuralguard Plus, which is patented with a medical utility patent,
and it's a normal body mechanism that can only be
done one way, so you can't really copy it in
any other way. It only works one way, and so
that's the that's the key and the ramifications in a
positive way of neuro Guard plus it does all that
(17:08):
for you and no other appliance can.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Have you had any interest from the NFL teams that
are interested in using the product.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I've had a little bit of interest from the teams.
Those are really hard to do. There's so much that
goes on with that. I kind of like to use
the analogy of like I heard, I read of a
story a guy who wanted to talk to the President
of the United States back in eighteen forty five. So
he just went to Washington and knocked on the White
(17:39):
House door and the President came and talked to him.
We can't do that now. I don't even know if
that's even possible to talk to the president ever. And
that's the thing, you know, It's like, you know, that's
the thing about it is that I fell as almost untouchable.
(18:01):
But I have had a lot of players, and I
guess the best example that I could use is Daniel Sorenson,
who played for the Chiefs eight years two Super Bowls.
Started out as an invited, non drafted practice player and
quickly moved up to starting safe free safety and played
(18:29):
with the Chiefs for eight years, two super Bowls with
no concussions. And he once told me he felt invincible
with it, and if you are familiar with him, he
was reckless, abandoned and he just got it because my
brother was out there at BYU where he graduated from,
(18:52):
and his wife actually babysat my brother's kids, and he said, here,
take this mouthguard to the Chiefs. It's going to help
you out. And he said, okay, and he did it.
And eight years he played in the NFL free safety
without a concussion, and I think that's probably the only
person who ever has done that in the history of
(19:15):
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Great, Now, what Octon were you talking about earlier in
our pre produs.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Marcus Marcus Ogden's brother played. He played in the NFL,
and he's a Hall of Fame inductee. And Marcus played,
uh started at Howard University and then he got he
got drafted in the NFL and played seven years for
(19:41):
the Baltimore Ravens. And he is a very big advocate
of neural guard plus. His daughter wears it in her
basketball games, and he wears it still working out. He boxes,
he lifts weights, does cardio, and he loves neural guard
(20:03):
plus because it gives him all those benefits that physiologic
job position will give you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I have one more question. I'm gonna save it after
Candy is done. Go ahead, Candy take over.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So, doctor Mike, what age would you start to wear
one of these?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I designed it so any kid could do it, and
even the younger ones, their parents could could help them
do it. And so usually I say a target age
of five, but that's just that's just because that kids
that age, or there's a lot of kids that are
(20:44):
just starting to do little sports.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But you know a three.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Year old could do it too, if if you had
somebody who you know was ahead of the game. So kids,
I recommend that they change them every year because they
they just grow and it's just not going to fit.
And I also recommend the kids that they don't chew
(21:11):
on it because it's your own personal physiologic job position.
And when you chew on it, you change the shape
of it, you make it thinner and thinner. It makes
you weaker. It doesn't work so and it doesn't protect you.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So I always tell kids, do not chew on this
m so any sport, any sport.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I've tested golfers who hit the ball farther. I've tested
soccer players, hockey, a lot of women's sports because women
have half the next structure as men, so they are
twice as susceptible to a concussion. Cheerly has been a
(22:01):
big one right now. We have a huge following with
the National Flyers. A lot of acrobatics, they get a
lot of concussions. Cheerleading would be one that you would
not think of wearing a mouth appliance because you got
to talk. But with the neural guard, that's not a
(22:22):
problem because it's on your lower jaw underneath your tongue
and doesn't get in the way, so you can do
your chairs, you can talk, and it keeps your jaw
in that right position so you can catch your flyer,
you can throw up your flyer, you can be a flyer.
And so that's one that people are really shocked by
that cheerleaders are wearing neural guard. Plus any sport, tennis, lacrosse, motocross,
(22:57):
even curling. I mean, if you if you need balance,
and strength. In your sport, you're gonna need physiologic jopposition,
you're gonna need neuroguard. I've had several skiers, Olympic skier,
you name it, anything but chess. You don't really need
(23:20):
it for chess. But I got a guy. I got
a guy that moses lawn with it. He's seventy years
old and he's got two acres and he likes to
get out there and exercise. And he just told me
he just by the time we got to the end
of the two acres, he was about ready to pass out.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And now he can mow it no problem.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So he loves it. And I always think that's the
greatest thing. Is not really a sport, but it's a
physical activity. And even even fire fighters and police officers,
these are very physical construction workers. If you're a construction
(24:04):
worker and you do heavy lifting and you have a
deficient jaw position, it's gonna wear you out. So it
touches every physical activity that you can think of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And you said it's it's a lower guard.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Right, absolutely lower, And it has to be there because
that's the movable part of the skull. It's the only
part of the skull that can make that job position correctly.
You can't move your upper jaw, only the lower jaw moves,
so that's why you have to have it on the
lower jaw and you get those extra benefits. It opens
(24:45):
your airway and you can talk and breathe.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
So my question is is because I was doing some
research and I looked on your website and I saw
that you have the red Wings logo on there, and
I'm like, so if he has a hockey player as
a hockey player, I understand protecting the lower, but I
would think they also have to have a mouth guard
(25:09):
on the upper to protect their teeth because I think
they get hit from both.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So do they.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Wear then the old school on the upper and then
yours on the.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Lower or.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Absolutely not? Okay, And I'm going to answer your question
with a question because I get this question a lot
and it helps us think of what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Now, remember the.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Seventy five years ago, the American Dental Association made a
mouthguard and where did they put it. They put it
on the top, because what were they trying to do.
They were trying to keep you from banging your teeth
together vertically breaking your teeth also a logical school of
(25:59):
thought back then, and they didn't really understand how the
mechanism worthy. Their ideas were limited, and they use some
common sense. If you if you look at what the
perfect bite is, it's the low it's the lower jaw
tucked under the upper teeth. So they called that, They
(26:21):
called that the leading arch. So if you took off
and ran and face planted into a wall, the first
teeth that would hit would be your upper teeth, and
so that's why they put it on the upper. But again, uh,
the force that it takes to knock a tooth out
(26:42):
is so great that the plastic of a mouthguard, even
narrow guard, is not strong enough to keep you from
knocking a tooth if you get a puck in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And it's that much force, it's gonna knock your tooth
out whether you have a mouth guard. And this is
very well spelled out on the American Dental Association website
that mouthguards do not keep you from getting your teeth
knocked out. So, to answer your question, if I put
it on the upper, what's going to protect my lower teeth?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
M hm, Right, If I.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Put it on the lower, what's going to protect my
upper teeth. It's because we're not protecting that, not what
it was ever designed for. So that's really kind of
an illogical way of thinking. But when you put it
on the lower arch, you get the physiology part of
(27:42):
it that makes you more balanced, stronger in your and
your strength output, and positions your jaw in that physiologic
job position, and dissipates the forces of concussion. That's why
it goes on the lower teeth. It still protects you
from banging your teeth together.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Right right, of course, of course, So is there a
is there a sport that you think has.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Adapted to the neuroguard.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Or welcomed it more or is out there using it
more than some of the others, And which sport would
it surprise us? Which sport isn't hasn't you know, used
it as much as we would think, I.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Would say lacrosse. You know, it's all about and this
is the difficult thing when you discover something that is
life changing and then it's just you against the world,
you know, and uh, and it's such a it's such
a paradigm shift. The analogy I like to use for
(28:51):
this is if you know about galileo, he said, the
evidence shows that the Earth orbits around the Sun with
the planets, and Pope Urban Fifth, who was a pope
at the time in sixteen thirty three, said that's heresy.
(29:11):
The Bible says the Earth will not be moved, so
therefore the Sun goes around the Earth. And if you
don't stop teaching that, I'm going to put you in jail.
And Galileo said, well, I'm sorry, but that's how it works.
And Galileo died in jail because he would not stop
teaching the truth even though the authority of the day
(29:36):
told him that he was wrong. And that's kind of
the same thing of what I'm doing, is we have
this seventy five year old mouthguard, and it's almost like
me coming to you and saying I found the true
religion and you need to come and be in my religion.
Now that's just not gonna happen. So it's so it's
(30:01):
sort of like me when I when I learned this
and started to develop it and test it against the world,
right they I didn't have the resources, and still I'm
working with that to tell everyone and really, truthfully, that's
why I appreciate you guys so much, because you have followers,
(30:22):
you have people who listen to you, and I can
guarantee you they've never heard of this before. Now they're
going to walk away and they're going to be changed
because I don't know if you guys have had concussions
or know somebody who's had a concussion.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But yeah, I know, I'm tell me about yours. Tell
me my concussions. Yeah, they hurt. I don't like them,
and now I have Alzheimer's disease because of it. I
took a couple of major balls, and I'll tell you
I was in post concussions, post protocol or whatever you
(31:01):
want to call it, and then I thought the advice
of Don mattically of them at that time, was of
the Marli says, Scott, You've got to be patial of
this thing. I've had players have to deal with this stuff.
But it's not easy. Yeah, ancients is not easy with concussion.
People don't get it.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They don't wonder you can get You can get one
concussion and it will haunt you your whole life.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well I've had two and I may have well I
may have other ones, and I've decided to do while
you're on here, I will donate my brain to Boston
University so they can find out, well what i'tly had
the concussions, but why the Alzheimer's. I was diagnosed around
sixty one, when most people end up getting it around
seventy seventy two. So you're onto some one concussion that
(31:45):
message out two gets worse than they And I don't
know how many other ones I've had due to hits
in the head, but these are the two diagnosed ones
I've had.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I know, And that's the thing. We're finding more and
more out about it. But the frustration is we're not
really focusing on prevention as much as we should. We're
focusing on how to treat it. We still don't know
how to treat them very well. People have different ideas
(32:17):
of what to do. Right now, it seems like the
focus is, let's find out how much force it takes
to get a concussion, but we're not focusing on how
do we mitigate a concussion? How do we stop it?
And that's that's where this comes into play. We have
(32:38):
a point two percent concussion rate that's almost zero. And
what's cool about it is is that they've been studying
concussions for decades and the incident rate stays kind of
the same, fluctuates a little bit, but you know, stays
right around ten reported, ten percent unreported, so twenty percent
(33:03):
concussions every year. There's three point six million concussions every year.
It stays the same. And then you bring physiologic job
position in their neuralguard plus and the concussion rate drops
down ninety nine point ninety eight percent, down to almost zero.
(33:25):
It tells you that this part of the body, which
is ignored and not studied and totally discarded, is the
missing link. It's the missing link of concussion mitigation. There
isn't a parent, a mother, a coach, an athlete that
shouldn't be wearing this appliance. It's like when you and
(33:50):
I were growing up and somebody, one of our friends
called us on the telephone. We went to the wall
and picked up the phone and talked to them. That
was great, but we couldn't like, look at the restaurant
they wanted to go to, uh, while we are talking
to them. We couldn't do by any of that. And
(34:12):
so nowadays who has a wall phone? Nobody, right, And
so it's like this, we have the technology, we have
the understanding, but we keep using this old, antiquated mouthguard
that that really hurts you and it's not safe, and
(34:37):
we just keep using it because that's our that's our habit,
that's our We don't know anything different, and the emphasis
of study has not been on it. So that's the
that's the whole important part of Neuroguard plus is that
now we can make you safer and everyone, and we
(34:58):
can help you play better as well.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
So I have a question if neuroguard does what it
and maybe you might want to answer this, and maybe
you won't.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know. But if it is as good as
it is and it saves as.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Much, wouldn't insurance companies be behind this like completely to
help mitigate so that they don't have the expense like
the medical expenses after the fact. Like, let's face it,
anyone that gets Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, those are expensive diseases that
stem from concussions and blows to the head. So wouldn't
(35:36):
maybe you don't want to answer, I don't know if
you want to answer that or not, but I would
think insurance companies would get behind this device with all
the research that you have behind you.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You would think, But.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Insurance is based on risk mm hmm versus rewards, and
they want to have as much reward as they possibly can.
Just take your pick, who's got the tallest buildings in
your favorite big city.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh yeah, to go to Chicago.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
It's all State Prudential. They have the tallest buildings. And
they don't get them by paying out all the money
that you wanted to pay out. They get them by
not paying as much money as.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
They possibly can. So I would love it. I mean,
I think.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've gone I've been working with the military and just
just the amount of money that they would save preventing
concussions with their soldiers is astronomical, and they're sort of
very interested in it. But it's just again talk about
(36:51):
red tape, and you know, nobody can make a decision,
and so it sort of sort of goes around and
around and around, you know, So insurance companies, I mean,
this is what I deal with in dentistry, is that
if they can get out of it, they will, And
(37:12):
if they can teach you that I'm not doing the
right thing so that you won't do it, that's the
money goes into their tall buildings. I hate to be
like a naysayer, but I mean, insurance companies are not
in the business of paying out you money for their
(37:32):
benevolent causes.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Right, I can't You have one or two more questions
you want to ask them?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So what kind of cost is involved with Well?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I had to make it so that anybody could get
one and fit it at home, and it was very
easy and affordable.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
And so.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
You can get the standard one for forty four ninety
seven and you can order it and it'll come to
your house and you can heat up the water, fit
yourself and off you go.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Super affordable.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Uh, And that's what we had to do. Now we
have other more precision appliances for professional and higher level
athletes that requires that requires me getting together with them
and actually doing a custom appliance. But on an everyday basis,
(38:30):
you can order the standard Neural Guard plus comes to
you and you can fit it yourself and off you go.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
All right, So you say that cost is just a
one time cost straight and and then the patient goes on, yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
One time cost for one, but if like you're a
kid or growing a kid, you would buy one new
one every years as your jaw chain your mouth and
you grow right, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Right, since we talked about the Red Wings, it just
came to mind wire I have to do this. Detroit
Red Wings traded goaltender Billy Whoso to the Anaheim Ducks
in exchange for future considerations. The teams are out Monday.
Whoso recorded an eight sixty six say percentage in nine
games with the Red Wings this season. He spent most
of the campaign in the AHL where he's man in
a time to twelve same percentage and thirteen apparents. So
(39:19):
guess what Whoso is headed to Disneyland. I had to
put that in there. You talk about the Wings that
give him a little information about the trade that would
never really get much consideration on there, but on a
night light tonight, and why not? They just got done
with the Ducks and now they shift Whoso out to
Anaheim or where he's head and maybe the Ducks get
(39:40):
a little bit of depth there. But remember the relationship
between Steve Eiserman and Pat Verbeek. I know you're a
Red Wings fan. I just thought i'd go out there
and mention that as well.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
So I started with the Saint Louis Blues. But the
guy that I played golf with and shot a hole
in one was Dallas Drake and he lived up here
in Traverse City, and so I started with him and
Keith Kachuk and just kept adding more and more of
their team throughout the year. And then Dallas went on
(40:12):
to win a Stanley Cup with the Red Wings and
he was wearing my appliance that I made him for
that game that they won the Stanley Cup. So, yeah,
hockey hockey as a big sport for the need of
(40:32):
neural Guard plus. Yes, boxing, I have boxers, and now
they're ones that need a little adaptation for the upper
because the incisal teeth tend to cut their lip when
they get punched in the face, and so if you
(40:53):
can dull that down a little bit, it doesn't happen
as much. And so we have to make them a
customized little one millimeter thin mouth appliance. It doesn't affect
the physiologic job position to keep them from getting cut
so quickly.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Okay, So doc, what's your website and and where do
you get.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
At neural guard plus dot com?
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And if you use the promo code n G ten
you can get ten percent off. So that's neuralguard plus
dot com.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Now I should let everybody know in the audience that
we're looking forward to have DOT on a couple of
other shows, Three Chicks in a Pod, Flash Chicks and Sausa,
we'll have them on, and we're also going to bring
them on inside the Piskin at some point as well.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Well.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I want to make sure we brought them here on
no limits first to give everybody opportunity to study this
product and get to know Dot from us, and then
we'll be able to circulate them around the south Word
Attribute Broadcasting Network. If you haven't subscribed to the Southword
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why we don't limit ourselves to just names or we
try to come up with some different story angles, whether
(42:04):
it's interviewing an actress, whether it's talking about marketing podcasts.
And of course Doc is on here talking about Regard
Plus and again we met Doc over at Super Bowl
fifty nine down in New Orleans and the fit was
obviously natural. We're just so glad that Doc is that
an opportunity to spend part of his evening here on
Monday night after this show here we have an innate
(42:24):
such as Baseball Talk, myself, Eric Katz and Trent Clark
possibly Mark Meriday. I hope you can join us of
that one as well, But no better way to lead
off than with Doctor Michael Hunches and Candy before we
leave ont to go out there and get one more
station break for our audience.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
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Speaker 5 (42:39):
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Speaker 5 (43:30):
Doc One of the things I'd like to ask from
you is if you could email us your logo and
I would a link to obviously the website. Then what
I can do is I can put those up on
our website as well as this broadcast, so if anyone
is interested, they can click right from our website to
your to your link to your website so they can
(43:55):
purchase these great, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Of our stuff.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
If you want to advertise with us, you can always
call Scott nine five four three or four four nine
four one. If you want to be a guest, you
can email us at seftworred Tribute at gmail dot com,
or if you see us out and about like Doc
did and he said, Hey, I want to tell you
about this great product, and he did, and we're like, oh,
we need to have you on a broadcast. And look,
(44:21):
this is the first of at least three that we
can think of. Get you out there and help and
help the public, because that's what we're that's what we're
here to do, is to inform them and help them.
So I'm so happy that you've been a guest on
the show.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Scott.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Back to you, all right, well, Doc, you know, for
anybody playing the bear in Trevers City, it's much because
by the time you go out there will your teeth
and your jaw and you start pulling your hair out.
You got to have it on there. I'd be the
first one admit that I'd be known on my job
or playing that golf course. Seriously, really, I mean that's
a bear as why they call it the bear. But
(44:57):
you talk about Gary Player, let me ask you, do
you know if the Gary player ever played on the pair.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
I don't think so he came and played his course,
but I don't know for sure if he did. Maybe
he did since he was there. Maybe I'll just go
play Jack's course.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Right, So for those people do want to know, we're
talking golf golf man. So here you have it, Gary Player,
Jack Nicholas, doctor Michael Hutchinson here on No Limits, and
I once again underneath such as baseball follows the show.
So meanwhile, that said, that does wrap up this sedition
of No Limits. Hope you share this broadcast show to
(45:36):
everybody out there. Everybody can benefit by it. Doc has
already provided a great example of why everyone could use it. It's
not limited to just anybody. And the fact that you
say that even kids three years old absolutely buols me away,
so that's unbelieble. And then you bring up curling of
all sports. Absolutely, I mean that one shocked me there, so.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
So thanks for having me. It was it was.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
For you Canadian viewer. So for you Canadian viewers out
there and you're playing curly, reach doctor, doctor Michael Hutchins,
so on behalf of candy. I'm believing in doctor Michael Hutchinson.
My name is Scott Morgan, Rocks, Motor City Man. We
thank you for joining us on this edition at Olynnex.
All right, he said, I'll talk to follow us. Good night, everybody.
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