June 26, 2023 • 43 mins
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Good evening everybody, and welcome toanother edition of New Limits. Please be
joined by former Kansas City Royal shortstopBuddy Beyond Kalana. Thanks for being another
broadcast, Buddy, my pleasure's gottenso nice for you to have me.
You're very welcome. Just let everybodyknow out there that number one, this
show will run until nine o'clock Easterntime, so we have a lot of
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ground to cover. We all atleast appreciate all the input in the chat
room. Well, first of all, Buddy, let's let's talk about your
baseball prayer. In the nineteen eightyfive World Championship team. Your manager was
Dick Howser, quite the guy,George Brett, hal mccraig, Dan Quisenbury.
What was it like having them asteammates and how's there your manager?
Well, we had you know,we had a great team. Obviously,
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we won the World Series that year, and we were built around speed and
defense and great starting pitching. Wehad just enough hitting to get the job
done. Thank god we had GeorgeBratt on the club. But it's a
good team, you know, reallyreally solid guys. Dick Howser was wonderful
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to me, put me in thelineup with about two weeks to go in
the in the season, told meI was a short stop, and I
played down the stretch, played welland started all fourteen postseason games, and
so it was really you know,it's very grateful for Dick for the opportunity
gaming to get in there at avery critical time for our club. So
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it was it was really a memorabletime in my life. You can imagine
anytime you win a World Series andgrown up as a kid, you know,
it's I never could even fathom playingin the World Series. You never
never thought about it. I alwayswanted to play in the major leagues and
I was fortun to have been ableto do that, but never thought about
playing the World Series. All ofa sudden, we're in the World Series,
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and it was rather rather exciting eventin my life. You can imagine.
Yeah, let's talk about that.I know, you played thirty five
games all season, and like yousaid, tak Hauser benched on exconception on
a favor of you, and obviouslyyou became the shortstop. You had like
fourteen games where you had really noerrors, you know, and you're hitting
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batting average wasn't bad, but twoseventy eight and you're on base percentage by
today's standards with four thirty five forthose of people that are paying for it.
So, you know, I thinkthat was impressive. But yeah,
let's talk about the World Series.You played thirteen to fifteen games, and
of course the team won the AmericanLeague West over the California Angels. That
was quite a stretch for It wasn'tthat it was amazing stretch run. You
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know, it was tight. Wewere neck and neck with the Angels the
whole way, had a really bigseries with them in Kansas City with about
six days to go in the season. Very intense, you know, when
you're at a penn and race,it's, uh, you know, every
day is just a really really bigdeal. We're playing to you know,
huge crowds. Um. You know, I remember not being able to sleep
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a lot. I'd end up sleepingon the couch just because trying to get
some sleep. It's pretty pretty intensedown the stretch of Major League Baseball season.
You just don't get a break.You know, you're going after it
every day, day in and dayout. Um. You know, I
always said the neat thing about theplayoffs in the World Series, those are
huge games, but you get aday off, you get a few day
off days off during the series tokind of rest up a little bit and
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get a break. So but yeah, the Angels had a great club,
you know. I mean they managedby Gene Mock and they had like Reggie
was on the team, dot tosince Bobby Grich, Brian Downing, I
think Bob Boone was still catching thosedays. And we had some battles,
you know. So it was itwas neck and neck all the way to
the all the way to the finalday. I think we beat not the
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final day, I think we beatOakland on the day before the end of
the season to clinch it. Soit was an exciting time. Cara Cats
out there mentions that don't forget aboutBrett Saberhagen. No, I won't forget
about him. He was an importantpart. George II Corn, I'm going
to go through the chat and thenwe're gonna get to the main event.
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The Coffins did a great job developingKansas City. Is a legit. Baseball
Town wrote down about that. I'mjust reading him off to you. And
of course Will Vogel of a constantcontributor. Was there a certain player you
mineled your game after yeah, youknow, being called up and playing next
to George Brett and having how mccrawnthe club. Those are two guys that
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really, in my opinion, playthe game in the right way. And
you know, just we're kind ofan influence on me that this is how
you play. You slide hard everybase you go into. Even though I
was a short stop, I'll tellyou what, I went in there trying
to tear up every short stuff thatI slid into. I wasn't afraid to
get hit myself and really never gothit playing defense. But those two guys
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were exemplified, in my opinion,how the game was played. George was
a real leader on the field.How was more of a leader on the
field and off the field of theclubhouse. How was a guy that was,
you know a lot of fun,really cutting up in the clubhouse and
was always in your corner. Butyou know, if you needed a kick
in the butt, he was goingto give it to you. You know.
He really would get on guys prettyhard to you know, to really
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get you going. And tremendous admirationfor Hal mccraig. Well. Well Well
mentions that he's been looking forward tothe show since I posted it. All
right, so let's go on oneother baseball thing. I want to really
get to what you're doing now.This is really really important, you know.
Let's just talk about basically the rulechanges in mlbast I mean, from
the ghost runner of the three batterminimum, the pitch clock, the larger
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bases, et cetera. Just giveme a basic overview on which ones you'll
like and which ones you don't like. Well, I really like the pitch
clock. I didn't. I didn'tthink I was gonna like it, but
I realized now I love it.Although I think it's added to pitching injuries,
which you know, we're we've donea lot of research regarding injuries.
We can talk about later. ButI think it's really created more interest in
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the game. I know that whenI'm watching a game now that you know,
it's just got more of my attention. I'm watching more baseball now that
I've I've watched in a long time. I've always watched it, but find
myself watching it more so now,enjoying it more so. Now there's more
you know, stolen bases. ButI like the pitchclock a lot, bigger
bases, I'm fine with. Ithink they should change the rule on the
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disengagements, you know, three throwovers the first base or a step off.
I think that number should be four. I think it really could just
three could really deter a guys fromeven thrown over once. Obviously, you
know there's a huge increasing amount ofstolen bases, so I'd like to see
them increase that to four. Theghost runner, I understand why they're doing
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it, you know, I justyou know, I know it's good they're
not doing it the postseason, butI would hate to see the last game
of the season right where two teamsare tied, were one of the tenth
inning, and there's a ghost runnerand all of a sudden there's a bad
hop saying or something right or thatwould hurt. So but I understand why
they're doing it to speed up thegame, not to speed up the game,
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but safe some pitching. Right.You hate to go into those fifteen
sixteen in the game is really youknow, you utilize the bulpin over overtax
them and also increase the risk ofinjury. Although you know the perception,
which I'm going to argue big time, you know that you know, if
you're throwing too much, you know, you're more susceptible to injury. Well,
certainly we don't want to throw morethan we have to, but that's
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not the main reason for the forthe injury. Academic, it's what's taking
place in the brain, the brainbody connection, and we've done the research
on that, we've proven that.Yeah, we're gonna get to that in
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owned by doctor Edwin Hernandez. We'llkeep your posts. This is a
challenge, Buddy. I'm looking forwardto doing that. I'm building their media
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department from broadcasting department from strat andI was offered this position late last week
and I definitely took it, andI'm glad that hopefully we'll be able to
bring him on there. I've alreadytalked about it, and the reason why
I talked about it, I hadan opportunity to show him your video as
we were going over some things there. So stay tuned, folks, Buddy
and I very we'll be on again, only on a different situation. All
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right, We'll continue on speaking tothe video that I am referring to,
Buddy. It was his own motionvideo number one year in the business.
Got it right, a minute intwenty eight seconds. My goodness, I
could get through that really good stuff. That was an impressive video and Ken
bull Reich real quickly, Buddy,Okay, he says, Hello, Scott
enjoyed watching Royals back then. Welldone, buddy, look at the fanga
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got out all right. So let'sgo back to the fact that you refer
to the nineteen eighty five World Seriesin most pressure pack games. You know,
you talked about your career, Youknow how you slowed things down.
Why don't you just elaborate on everythingthat we talk about in that sequence you
talk about a thirteen pro, twentyplus amateurs and motion. I'll let you
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take the lead on this one sincewe talked about it before, about what
you're trying out of this ROWL experience. Sure, so, you know,
Scott, even though even though Iwas a first round pick in nineteen seventy
eight, I was just somewhat ofa very marginal major league player. I
could never really figure out how tostay in the lineup on a regular basis.
However, I got in the WorldSeries in eighty five, and for
whatever reason, it just really sloweddown for me, and I wasn't thinking,
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and really everything I did was thisvery fluid in efflis And I choose
my words very carefully when I saythat every single ball at shortstop hit me
right in the sweet spot in sevengames, and every single thrill came out
of my hand with perfect speed andtrajectory. And it was that zone experience,
what happened to my brain in mybody that led me to researching and
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figuring a lot of things out aboutthe brain body connection and teaching athletes,
not just athletes, but musicians andeven salespeople how to get in the zone.
And you know, if you aska hundred athletes in any sport how
they felt when they played their best, if they take the time to think
about it, but they will mentionthose three things. If things slowed down,
they had more time, we weren'trushing, they weren't thinking, and
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the motion was more fluid in efflisSo we have quantified what happens in the
brain and more importantly, teach that. We call it kind of the library
preparation. We all in life,we have these libraries of preparation. We
do all the work, you know, and then boom, crunch time comes
and we want to be able toaccess the library preparation, right, And
so that's what we teach with zonemotion. And I've worked with athletes in
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thirteen professional sports, over twenty amateursports and done five five studies slash research
projects now and so we've we've proventhe Zone motion is the only mental training
program that increases performance. It's beenproven to increase performance, expedite development,
speed up the development, and minimizesoft tissue injuries, which is a very
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very big thing um in baseball.As we know with pictures, and I
saw that little blurb that came acrossyour screen here a moment ago about a
gentleman who talked about the injuries pitchinginjuries have increased. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's impressive. You know whatI've found interesting about what the reason?
I'm sorry, what's that I'm goingto say? The main reason things
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priority is the mechanic over the zonemotion process, how information moves through the
brain that allows all the muscles tofind or synchronistically, therefore providing more fluid
motion the body that creates a muscleand balance. So as our industry,
which has been great, they've learnedmore about quote perfect mechanics. However,
when they've gone to teach them right, we've seen an increase in injuries.
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And the reason is because the mechanicbecomes the priority that creates a muscle and
balance, and you combine that balancewith the fact that these are more arm
speed. That's a train wreck.That's what's happening. So we have to
make the brain the priority in orderto give an athlete the best chance of
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saying free of soft tissue injuries,not just soft tissue injuries, but injuries
in general. Because what happens withthis process with the brain of the proper
state, and the athlete becomes moreaware, they're more likely avoid situations,
make less unnecessary movement, or haveless unnecessary movement, which will limit reduced
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the chance of soft tissue injuries.That makes sense. Yeah, that's yeah,
that's it. Yeah, that ispretty interesting how you talk about that
too. You know, buddy,one of the things that intrigued me was
you're able to build this concept offof your World series experience. And you
know what I also found intrigued whenI was watching that video was I have
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an STP theory, buddy. It'sslow down't think, and proceed. And
you know what, I began todevelop some similarities with the STP theory with
a lot of what you were doing, Sorr that we were talking over each
other. I just want to makesure the connection sound so that we're able
to get our entire message out.Doesn't happen, so continue on did you
say traumatic. I'm sorry, Imean, yeah, what I've been saying
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is slow down, think it proceed. It's the same thing the STP motor
oil a little bit. I goahead and associate with that brain if you
get my draft. Yeah, soyou know I had I had a brain
injury as a kid as well,and had him as an adult as well,
which really made a lot of thingsvery difficult for me. He learned
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a lot about the brain and studya lot about the brain body connection,
which has led to my teaching.So it's kind of life will give you
some lemons and hopefully to turn theminto lemonade and kind of that's so you
know, I've built keen understanding,not just maternally, to be properly aligned
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so that their full ability can riseto the surface. So the motion that
they've practiced, it's in the librarypreparation. The middle of the brain can
be accessed. We want to accessit. It's one thing, you know,
being prepared right, you're prepared,you're prepared. Then we have to
access it right. And a lotof athletes work hard. They're wonderful athletes,
tremendous athletes. They understand what theyneed to do. And sudden the
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lights go on and they're not ableto access their full ability. And that's
because the brain body connection is notworking the way it can. They just
don't quite understand it. It's notthat they're mentally weak, right. A
lot of people talk about mental weakness. I don't talk about mental weakness,
right. You talk about really understandingthe brain anybody connection and makes sense the
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library preparation. Want to access thatlibrary preparation when it is needed. Yeah,
you know amazingly you talk about that. I've had a couple of concussions
when it comes to head injuries,so I can certainly relate about the traumatic
effect of brain injuries for sure.So so as we go on, so
I just want to make sure thatwe're up to speed on a little thing.
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A few things. I know you'veworked with salespeople and musicians, right.
I assume that that's an intricate partof what you're doing, A big
part of you know, primarily athletes. But I've done working the sales world
because I'd be working with executives onthe golf course and they'd say, what
you're teach, what you're teaching appliesto all of life. And so we
developed or I developed a program towork with salespeople because we all know we've
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all been sold to in life before, right, We've all kind of sold
to a certain degree, and weknow that when someone starts to nudge us
or push us, it causes alittle resistance and then there's a lack of
empathy in the relationship, a littledistance occurs. So what we're able to
do is is really give someone aneurophysiological experience of how that works, okay,
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and then train them to makethetic statetheir their default state. They become
more connected to the person that they'rethey're selling to or who's selling to them,
right, okay, and the offthe field benefit of its own motion.
We've seen, you know years ago, Scott, when I brought this
out sixteen years ago, I hadno idea that it would have as much
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of an effect on a human asit does. I just saw one of
them. Then I started hearing chanceand family members there is that they're just
kind of head they're happier, they'refeeling better, okay, Russian state.
So we saw that there was anincrease in data, which actually increases to
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oxytocin to feel good chemicals across theboard with a student. Aphewters not benefited
in the classroom as well, becausethe brain, when the brain starts to
access this state, you're intuitively alwaysseeking it in all areas of life,
not just while you're performing on thesports field, but whatever you're doing,
whether you're in a relationship or whetheryou're you know, studying for a test
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or taking a test. So,if I'm understanding it correctly, I know
this has a lot to do withathletes, and you apply it to sales
and musicians because I know full wellthat at anytime you have any octane situation
of a lot of what you're talkingon Because I know we talked about this
before. You know, it's safeto say, I think a lot of
what you're doing applies to multiple fields. Is really what it does. But
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I know your primary emphasis is onathletes. Is that correct? Oh?
For sure? Yeah, Now we'reprimarily focused on athletes, but it does
apply to really all areas of life. But I you know, you can't
spread yourself too thin, nor shouldI. But you know it's I'm blessed
to be able to work in multiplesports. I've decided that if I had
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to pitch, if I had towork just in one one sport, I'd
get bored now. So it's it'sreally gratifying to work with athletes in many
sports, primarily baseball. But Ido a lot of work on the PGA
tour, a lot of amateur golfersand auto racers and basketball players, and
so it's been a lot of joyfor me every day to be doing what
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I do. So let's go alittle bit deeper into the five studies or
of effectiveness of zone. I thinkyou talked about Martina correct or Jole motion.
I'm at zonn motion motion. Yeah, so tell me a little bit
more about that. So UM yearsago, at a time where pitching injuries
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were skyrocketing, I noticed that myprofessional and amateur pitching clients were not getting
hurt and I was kind of wonderingwhy. And I kind of figured out,
well, if if there's more fluidmotion, which there was, UM,
that would make sense. And soI decided to try and do some
research, which we ended up doingwith the American Sports Medicine Institute, which
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is a research institute in Birmingham,Alabama, headed up by doctor Glenn Fleisig.
The top baseball biomechanists in the world. This is where doctor Andrews practice
is sort of surgery, has hispractice down there in Birmingham, and he
has the research clinic that doctor fleisiadds up. So I to doctor Fleisik
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about doing the study which we endedup doing. We did it with seventeen
college pitchers and it was very verysuccessful. There was no change in the
biomechanics of the seventeen pitchers after trainingin zone motion, but the subjective experience
was very profound, to the pointwhere eighty eight percent of them felt more
relaxed, less shoulder discomfort, muchless elbow discomfort, all very very positive.
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No one felt worse, and soit was very very successful. And
in the report, doctor Fleisach wrotesomething that was very interesting. He wrote
that even though there was no changein the biomechanics, it doesn't preclude the
fact that there could be a changein the soft tissue, meaning that a
pitcher could throw the same pitch twicein a row with the same mechanics,
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but the soft tissue, the ligamentsand tendons and muscles and fashion could be
different. And Boob, that's whenthe light bulb went off of me and
I said, I know that's whatzone motion does, and that's why our
eyes are are you know, we'rehaving great success and keeping them free of
injury. And so that led tosome EMG research, which was its electro
biography where you measure the muscle voltage. We did and we did small sample
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size, but what we saw wasand this was the work was analyzed by
doctor Kevin Whitty, an orthotic surgeonwho does Tommy John surgery and you also
trained under doctor Andrews. And doctorWhitty said that the zone motion process shows
a decrease in the lat and anincrease in the pack, therefore showing more
support for the shoulder, and thereforewe can assume the elbow is what he
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said. So that was very,very successful and you know, proving that
what we're doing reduces soft tissue injuries. And for years we had seen an
increase in you know, we usedto call it life on the baseball.
Now it's called spin rate. Andso spin rate is a byproduct of really
four things, arm strength and armspeed, the proper kinetic chain of the
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body, proper mechanics, and lastand most importantly is how the brain is
functioning, getting signals through the brainto the cerebellum in a fashion that allows
all the muscles to fire synchronistically.So the ball just comes out of the
hand literally perfectly right. All themuscles are firing synchronistically, and that's what
allows an increase in spin rate.We've seen through through the research we did,
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we saw about a nine and ahalf percent increase in spin rate unforcing
fastball. We I know, clientshad told me there's there's spin rate has
increased more than that, and sothat's kind of that's the And then well
recently I did a couple months agojust completed heart rate research. It was
seeing there was a study done atthe twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics on archers in
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which they measured the heart rate whilethey were performing, and what they saw
was the reduced heart rate led toan increase in performance. And so I
went ahead and did some small samplesized research with four college baseball hitters for
baseball pitchers, and we saw adecrease after zone training of about a month
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and a half of training. Wesaw a decrease in heart rate about twelve
or thirteen percent for the group,which, you know, which is what
I expect. I expected to seea reduction heart rate. So you know,
as the heart raach subsides in performancecan increase. It doesn't mean it
definitely will increase, but with theproper training, it will increase. And
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you know, a lot of alot of professional sports are interested in and
teams are interested in heart rate variability. Heart rate variability is how quickly one
can recover from a stressful event.So say a pitcher throws h you know,
four balls in a row creates alittle stress in a system. You
know, how quickly can you getback on target? Right? That's very,
very important. And what I've toldteams is, you know, heart
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rate variability is great, it's wonderful. I love it needs to be worked
on. But what's more important what'staking place with the heart during the motion.
That's how you avoid the four walk, the four bowl walk, where
you don't have to be as concernwith HRV. Let's take care of what's
happening right here in this moment.Okay, That keeps the heart rate down,
That allows for fluid motion, increasedspin rate, reduce chance of soft
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tissue injury. You get the point. Great, a right to know what
the heart's doing in the moment.So when we put your research, buddy
in perspective. Okay, I knowwe've got a lot to chew on here.
What is it the one thing thatyou want most people to take away
from all the research that you've doneon zone motion or two things? Well,
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the main thing is that the zonemotion right increases performance, expedites development,
and reduces the chance of soft tissueinjury. Now, if I tell
a scientist day he looks at allmy research, he's going to say this
is hogwash because it's not pure reviewedresearch. And I'm going to say,
you're right, it's not pure reviewedresearch. But which I don't care about.
You know, we just care abouthelping the players, right. We
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care about helping the players, helpingthe teams, and keeping the players as
healthy as they possibly can be.Right. There are a lot of careers
that are ending because people are morefocused on velocity and mechanics, which are
very, very important. I'm ahuge fan of philosopy and mechanics, but
not at the expense of the waythe brain functions. Right, we want
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to make sure the brain is inthe right state, and then you go
to turn up velocity and you goto integrate the proper mechanics and which we
teach the integration process. Right.Coaches don't have to do anything different.
The players just need to be inthe zone when they're working on when they're
developing and performing. Okay, sowhat I'm going to do here, and
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I know this is a really interestingsubject. It really is. When we
put things in perspective. We talkabout the methodology that it's backed by science.
Is what we talked about, right, correct? Yes? And then
we talk about the expradites, developmentenhances, performances, minimize it soft issue
injuries, and only significantly prevent mentaltraining program. Is that correct when we
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summarize that perspective. I wouldn't sayit's the only significant mental training problem.
It's the only mental training problem thatI know of that has been proven to
do all of those things. Wecan use technology to prove everything that I've
I've stated through EMG spin rate andthe length of time it takes to develop
and make changes for an athlete tomake those mechanical changes that an athlete often
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needs to make. Yeah, Igot some good comments on chat or running
for these These are really really goodbuddy, George Ichor, what do you
think is wrong with the mental situationsfacing players like Tigers outfielder Austin Meadows.
Okay, I'm not familiar with whathe's going through right now. If they
want to expand on that, Ican comment. Okay, all right,
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George, I'll expand on it.Well. Do you think any athletic trainers
on a big league level in baseballor in other sports budding that do you
work with any of them? Iwork with the athletes. I'm open to
consulting with teams. We're going tomake that part of our model. They're
teams that have been very interested fora long time. I think they you
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know, in the scientific world,people are very concerned about pure reviewed studies,
which I don't have yet and probablynot going to do anytime soon.
We may, we may do alittle more research. We're open to team
sponsored research, which we would loveto do. Well. Do you ever
did you ever consider getting back intoMLB or minor league baseball as a manager,
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hitting coach, or something else.Yeah, very I'm very interested in
in in helping a club access thezone so that they can again speed development
up and enhance performance and min ofmy soft tissue injury. So I'm extremely
interested in consulting with teams in thatcapacity for sure. One of the things
that was really impressed about your websiteand folks, you really you'll have an
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opportunity, buddy, to mention iton the back end of the show.
But one of the things that reallyamazed me was a testimonials that you had.
I'm going to mention some of theones that stood out to me.
One George Brett. You talked abouthelping him on the driving ranged, which
is pretty good. I'll he needsany help with his spring on his swing
anyway. But you had George Brett, Adam Otavio of the Mats. I'm
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just gonna listen and then you tellme the ones that stood out. Jeremy
Felt of the San Francisco Giants,Boston Davis or the Boston Retsons. You
helped Matt Caine with the San FranciscoGiants. He had a perfect game.
That was one that really really stoodout. Brad Markey of the Chicago Clubs,
mental mechanical sides of pitching, Jakepatricka and Milwaukee Brewers. Charlie Hoffman,
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four time PGA tournament winner, DoctorStacy Foccino, Morris Luca Witch or
the Winnipeg Jets, is retired.Scott mccarren, PJA Senior Tour director,
was rediscovering his youth on the seniortour. And then you also mentioned Benny
all right, I mentioned a lot. Tell me the ones that stood out
in your mind and what you wereable to do. Yeah, Well,
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Scott McCarn is a great one becauseScott came to me right when he turned
fifty years old. He was goingon the Senior PGA Tour. And Scott
was a guy who had done alot of good things in his career,
not just you know, on thecourse, but in Karen for himself.
He was kind of I would Ilook at Scott as being a kind of
a non problem case. You know. It wasn't like there was he was
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going through a you know, areally difficult mental situation. He was just
going on the senior tour and wantedevery advantage he could get. So we
worked together and he ended up winningeleven tournaments in the next four years,
over nine and a half million dollarseleven golf turbants he won in four years.
That was a great one. Anotherstory that I love was one of
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my first Major league pitchers, oneof my first Burtwith was a guy by
the name of Bobby Keppel. It'skind of a sandwich pick by the New
York Mets many years ago, andgot to Triple A a few cups of
coffee in the big leagues, butit was really struggling at Triple A to
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the point he had had a fivefour five r A over the course of
four seasons in Triple A and itdecided to retire and go to work for
his father's landscaping business. And hisagent called me and said, hey,
Bobby Kepple just got an invitation togo to the Twins major league camp and
he's thinking about giving it one morechance. Would you work with him?
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And they said sure, I'd behappy to do so, and so we
worked together and he went and hada pretty good spring training and was sent
to Triple A, where he endedup having a two four or five R
three points below his four your careeraverage in Triple A. Got called to
called up to the Minnesota Twins,and his first fourteen and the third innings
were scoreless, and then his firstmajor league win listen to this came in
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game one sixty three, not onesixty two, one sixty three it was
one game playoff with the Detroit Tigers. I was going to represent that division
in the playoffs. He got thewin, they sold his contract to Japan.
He went made about three million dollarsover the course of the next three
years. He was going from alandscaping job to putting three million dollars in
his pocket the next three years.Basically came out of retirement. That's a
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story that I just absolutely love,and I love this. I love the
Brad Marquis story. Although Brad isa retired minor league pitcher, Brad was
another non problem case, really solidhuman, solid individual was stuck in extended
spring training. It was a fiveten right handed pitcher, and if you're
nothing about pitching five ten right handedpitchers, the deck is stacked against him
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every day they go on the field. With Brad. It was a solid
guy. Actually knew him in highschool and he called me and said,
I think you can help me,and we worked together and a few weeks
later he got moved to A ballout of extended spring training, did extremely
well. A few weeks later hegot moved to high A ball and finished
the year there and ended up withthe second lowest whip in all of baseball
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behind Clayton Kershaw. Okay, right, that's a non problem case. Now,
quite often people think that what Ido is for quote, a problem
case, someone with the yips orsomeone who's quote mentally weak or whatever it
is. That's not what zone emotionsabout. Zone emotions for any athlete who
wants to access or full ability inany given moment. Every athlete wants that.
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I certainly did. I had noidea how to do it. I
was out of the major leagues.I was out of the major leagues twenty
months after my zone experienced the WorldSeries because I didn't know what happened in
my mind and body that allowed meto play. So well, bring up
that Game one sixty eight was painful, man, I'm telling you, well,
remember that I write about the Tigers. Come on, but you know
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I'm gonna throw one at you.This is really good. You're reading ken
ball, right. There has tobe something different because Mickey Lullas won three
of the World Series games for theTigers in the nineteen sixty eight World Series.
How do you describe that one?Yeah? Right, So you know
back in those days, right,we didn't We didn't know a lot about
mechanics. Let's talk about pitching,right, We just didn't know a lot
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about pitching mechanics. They weren't reallytaught right, and so guys really stayed
free of injury. But again,the more we've learned about mechanics and gone
to teach them as as an industry, injuries have increased. Now does that
mean that mechanics should not be taught. Absolutely not. Mechanics should be taught,
but they need to be taught withthe brain in the right state,
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so that we can have a betterchance of staying free of injury, and
so that we can progress more quicklyas well and perform better. So usual
mechanics. But you're right. Backin those days Mickey launched. You know,
if you asked Becky Lows to reallybreak down all his mechanics, probably
couldn't do it, he said,I just threw the ball and would be
my guests. I don't know that, all right, So let me throw
this out. Do you think Mickeybelongs on Baseball Hall of Fame? I
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don't know enough about his numbers,You got it, That's that's the question.
I'm gonna I'm gonna turn that backto you. Does he I personally
do because number one, you know, he threw a lot of complete games
back there. He was an inningz eater, and he also had to
deal with the league when it wasin with a designated hit or what you
all think. Oh wow, Idon't know if his numbers, since they're
below two and a half to fifty, allow him to get there. But
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my buddy Tom Gage wrote a bookon him, and I've always I've actually
buddy had him on my show before. I'll he's he's my idol anyhow I
think he does. But that's subjectand you know I'm being a Tigers guy
like I am. You know,I huh, how many wins did?
I think? Two hundred? AndI don't know if top of my head
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under two thirty I believe, sohe didn't make the two fifty markers all
I can tell you. But ifyou go out there and okay, well
let's all ahead, and let BillLoogo mentioned this, do you think don
manningly belongs to all of fame?You know? Again with without looking at
the numbers right in front of me, um, I can't answer on really,
well, some players I probably couldanswer on I mean Donnie, I
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mean Donnie really was a great player. He really took advantage of Yankee Stadium.
I can tell you that, youknow, that's porch, and he
was such a first it's such agreat first basement. But that short right
field porch. He could really takethe ball inside, inside, off the
quarner and really stay inside that betterthan any hitter in that era and hit
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that, you know, hit theball down the line for home run.
So he benefited by playing Yankee Stadium. I think he benefited by being a
Yankee. I think anybody who playsfor the Yankees gets a lot more publicity.
Right, But he was a greatplayer. I don't know enough about
his numbers overall numbers to say,yes, for sure, he belongs in
Hall of Fame. All right,one other question then, I want to
allow you to summarize everything and putit in perspective. Okay, how did
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you like playing at the old YankeeStadium? No place like it? Scott.
I've always said, there's there's theBig Leagues, and then there's Old
Yankee Stadium. You know, Isaw one game there. I paid a
lot of money there last year againstthe Tampa Bay Razo with worth it just
to go there one but go ahead, continue, Yeah, there was no
place like playing a Yankee Stadium.It was a completely different environment. It
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was just you know, the thehistory there, Bob Shephard, right in
those days, the PA announcer,you know, playing New York, New
York after the final out, justso many wonderful things, and just you
know, being in the city,right, being in the energy of New
York and playing baseball Yankee Stadium.I mean, there's just no trip like
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it in baseball. All right.So when you look at your career,
buddy, what would you say thehighlight of it? I know what it
was a little breathe, But wouldyou say, give me the highlight as
to what it was like on thefield, because I have an idea what
the highlight was off Go ahead,Well, pretty pretty simple. You know.
Winning the World Series in eighty fivewas by far the highlight of my
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professional career. You know, asa kid, I never again, I
never thought about playing the World Series, And even when I got to the
major leagues, I couldn't really fatand playing the World Series it's kind of
too big an event. But allof a sudden, all of a sudden,
I found myself playing in the WorldSeries and not only that I played
the best baseball in my professional career, felt like I couldn't do anything wrong,
and that was the benefit of youknow, entering the zone just by
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chance, and now you know,we teach it by design. So um,
but that was just an amazing overallexperience, amazing time in my life.
The opportunities that came from it,being on David Letterman and the Today's
Show, and on Kansas cy magazineand just you know, all the opportunities.
But really I feel very blessed it. Twenty months later, I was
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out of big leagues, but I'vereally you know, utilized that experience to
figure out, okay, what happenedin the World Series and more importantly,
how do I teach it? Youknow, so that all of us,
we all we all want to bethe best we can be in life,
right, whether we're an athlete orwhatever we're doing. And so my expertise
is help an athlete be the bestthey can be. And I just love
doing it. I love changing lives. Well, you bring up an interesting
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point point, but I want toassume that obviously one of the highlights of
your career is that you were ableto use a World Series as your platform
to do things withs own motion.Is that correct? Absolutely? Yeah,
all right. So my follow upto that is, when you look at
the show that we've done today,what do you want to get the most
out of this whole thing that youwant to convey to everybody that has a
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chance to listen to it one ortwo times? A great question. Yeah,
the thing none of us know,We don't know, right, and
the key is to really be opento better ways, being open to what
you don't know, what you can'tsee, and what you may not remember
that you forgot. And so againa lot of people think that zone motion
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is for quote problem cases. Now, the brain is the operating system to
the muscles, and so we workwith the brain on the field so that
the athlete can start to change thenarrow pathways in the brain and therefore the
muscles. When you change the neuropathwaysin the brain and you make what we
call the zone emotion process the prioritythe default state for the brain, that's
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when you start to experience the gameis slowing down and not thinking in fluid
efforts motion. So that's what Iwould love people to understand. Okay,
So one thing I should ask youwhat other major shows have you been invited
on to talk about what you're doingthat I mentioned you Just tell me what
they are if I can recall.So the Major League Baseball Network I was
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on several years ago talking about this, you know, been on plenty of
podcasts, and Baseball America did astory on me. I can't remember,
you know, just that we gota new book coming out probably the beginning
of next year called Art of theZone. Very excited about that. Well,
well, I'll make sure there's aroom for you to promote that.
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Mark my word. Will man Scottappreciate you? Well you are too,
So what I want you to do? Now, buddies, let everybody know
how they get old. Yeah,oh that's great. Yeah they can.
They can go to zonemotion dot comand they can send me an email at
Buddy Buddy at zonemotion dot com.Very good. So there you go.
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this one is here, Buddy,I'm just so glad we had an opportunity
to get this out there. AndI should point out though that when I
mentioned LinkedIn, I had the goodfortune of meeting Buddy Bank on LinkedIn.
So for those of you in theprofessional business, get out there and get
on LinkedIn. So, Buddy,I want to thank you very much for
joining us on tonight's edition of NoLimits. And the last thing you want
to add now, just I appreciateyou, Scott, thank you so much
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for having me and yes, wemet on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is a great
platform. Encourage people to go tolinked In and I'd love to connect with
more people on LinkedIn. So iflectto connectively on LinkedIn, please do so.
Buddy Bancala, very good. Well, you have a great story,
and I think the one thing aboutit is you have something that so many
people don't realize. And I thinkthe most important thing, Buddy, that's
important is we let everybody go outthere and make bring awareness to it and
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I'll do everything in my power todiligently promote it. Go ahead, can
I also mentioned to connected me onInstagram? That would be great absolutely and
everything you know well, for thatmatter, mentioned Twitter, and I'm on
Twitter and Instagram. Yes, thata boy you got it might as well
do it so so meanwhile, thankyou, thank you everybody for joining us
on this edition of No Limits.On behalf of Buddy Beyond Klanna, the
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nineteen eighty five world champion. Forthat, Kansas City Royals Gotta rang,
gotta get that in there. Myname is Scott Morgan, rowthim Otor City,
mad Mouth. Thank you for joiningus and we will catch you on
tomorrow night. We have a doubleheaderone hundred and eighth Sitchies Baseball Talk and
then side depicts in good night everybody. Two
Good evening everybody, and welcome toanother edition of New Limits. Please be
joined by former Kansas City Royal shortstopBuddy Beyond Kalana. Thanks for being another
broadcast, Buddy, my pleasure's gottenso nice for you to have me.
You're very welcome. Just let everybodyknow out there that number one, this
show will run until nine o'clock Easterntime, so we have a lot of
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ground to cover. We all atleast appreciate all the input in the chat
room. Well, first of all, Buddy, let's let's talk about your
baseball prayer. In the nineteen eightyfive World Championship team. Your manager was
Dick Howser, quite the guy,George Brett, hal mccraig, Dan Quisenbury.
What was it like having them asteammates and how's there your manager?
Well, we had you know,we had a great team. Obviously,
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we won the World Series that year, and we were built around speed and
defense and great starting pitching. Wehad just enough hitting to get the job
done. Thank god we had GeorgeBratt on the club. But it's a
good team, you know, reallyreally solid guys. Dick Howser was wonderful
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to me, put me in thelineup with about two weeks to go in
the in the season, told meI was a short stop, and I
played down the stretch, played welland started all fourteen postseason games, and
so it was really you know,it's very grateful for Dick for the opportunity
gaming to get in there at avery critical time for our club. So
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it was it was really a memorabletime in my life. You can imagine
anytime you win a World Series andgrown up as a kid, you know,
it's I never could even fathom playingin the World Series. You never
never thought about it. I alwayswanted to play in the major leagues and
I was fortun to have been ableto do that, but never thought about
playing the World Series. All ofa sudden, we're in the World Series,
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and it was rather rather exciting eventin my life. You can imagine.
Yeah, let's talk about that.I know, you played thirty five
games all season, and like yousaid, tak Hauser benched on exconception on
a favor of you, and obviouslyyou became the shortstop. You had like
fourteen games where you had really noerrors, you know, and you're hitting
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batting average wasn't bad, but twoseventy eight and you're on base percentage by
today's standards with four thirty five forthose of people that are paying for it.
So, you know, I thinkthat was impressive. But yeah,
let's talk about the World Series.You played thirteen to fifteen games, and
of course the team won the AmericanLeague West over the California Angels. That
was quite a stretch for It wasn'tthat it was amazing stretch run. You
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know, it was tight. Wewere neck and neck with the Angels the
whole way, had a really bigseries with them in Kansas City with about
six days to go in the season. Very intense, you know, when
you're at a penn and race,it's, uh, you know, every
day is just a really really bigdeal. We're playing to you know,
huge crowds. Um. You know, I remember not being able to sleep
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a lot. I'd end up sleepingon the couch just because trying to get
some sleep. It's pretty pretty intensedown the stretch of Major League Baseball season.
You just don't get a break.You know, you're going after it
every day, day in and dayout. Um. You know, I
always said the neat thing about theplayoffs in the World Series, those are
huge games, but you get aday off, you get a few day
off days off during the series tokind of rest up a little bit and
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get a break. So but yeah, the Angels had a great club,
you know. I mean they managedby Gene Mock and they had like Reggie
was on the team, dot tosince Bobby Grich, Brian Downing, I
think Bob Boone was still catching thosedays. And we had some battles,
you know. So it was itwas neck and neck all the way to
the all the way to the finalday. I think we beat not the
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final day, I think we beatOakland on the day before the end of
the season to clinch it. Soit was an exciting time. Cara Cats
out there mentions that don't forget aboutBrett Saberhagen. No, I won't forget
about him. He was an importantpart. George II Corn, I'm going
to go through the chat and thenwe're gonna get to the main event.
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The Coffins did a great job developingKansas City. Is a legit. Baseball
Town wrote down about that. I'mjust reading him off to you. And
of course Will Vogel of a constantcontributor. Was there a certain player you
mineled your game after yeah, youknow, being called up and playing next
to George Brett and having how mccrawnthe club. Those are two guys that
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really, in my opinion, playthe game in the right way. And
you know, just we're kind ofan influence on me that this is how
you play. You slide hard everybase you go into. Even though I
was a short stop, I'll tellyou what, I went in there trying
to tear up every short stuff thatI slid into. I wasn't afraid to
get hit myself and really never gothit playing defense. But those two guys
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were exemplified, in my opinion,how the game was played. George was
a real leader on the field.How was more of a leader on the
field and off the field of theclubhouse. How was a guy that was,
you know a lot of fun,really cutting up in the clubhouse and
was always in your corner. Butyou know, if you needed a kick
in the butt, he was goingto give it to you. You know.
He really would get on guys prettyhard to you know, to really
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get you going. And tremendous admirationfor Hal mccraig. Well. Well Well
mentions that he's been looking forward tothe show since I posted it. All
right, so let's go on oneother baseball thing. I want to really
get to what you're doing now.This is really really important, you know.
Let's just talk about basically the rulechanges in mlbast I mean, from
the ghost runner of the three batterminimum, the pitch clock, the larger
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bases, et cetera. Just giveme a basic overview on which ones you'll
like and which ones you don't like. Well, I really like the pitch
clock. I didn't. I didn'tthink I was gonna like it, but
I realized now I love it.Although I think it's added to pitching injuries,
which you know, we're we've donea lot of research regarding injuries.
We can talk about later. ButI think it's really created more interest in
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the game. I know that whenI'm watching a game now that you know,
it's just got more of my attention. I'm watching more baseball now that
I've I've watched in a long time. I've always watched it, but find
myself watching it more so now,enjoying it more so. Now there's more
you know, stolen bases. ButI like the pitchclock a lot, bigger
bases, I'm fine with. Ithink they should change the rule on the
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disengagements, you know, three throwovers the first base or a step off.
I think that number should be four. I think it really could just
three could really deter a guys fromeven thrown over once. Obviously, you
know there's a huge increasing amount ofstolen bases, so I'd like to see
them increase that to four. Theghost runner, I understand why they're doing
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it, you know, I justyou know, I know it's good they're
not doing it the postseason, butI would hate to see the last game
of the season right where two teamsare tied, were one of the tenth
inning, and there's a ghost runnerand all of a sudden there's a bad
hop saying or something right or thatwould hurt. So but I understand why
they're doing it to speed up thegame, not to speed up the game,
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but safe some pitching. Right.You hate to go into those fifteen
sixteen in the game is really youknow, you utilize the bulpin over overtax
them and also increase the risk ofinjury. Although you know the perception,
which I'm going to argue big time, you know that you know, if
you're throwing too much, you know, you're more susceptible to injury. Well,
certainly we don't want to throw morethan we have to, but that's
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not the main reason for the forthe injury. Academic, it's what's taking
place in the brain, the brainbody connection, and we've done the research
on that, we've proven that.Yeah, we're gonna get to that in
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challenge, Buddy. I'm looking forwardto doing that. I'm building their media
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department from broadcasting department from strat andI was offered this position late last week
and I definitely took it, andI'm glad that hopefully we'll be able to
bring him on there. I've alreadytalked about it, and the reason why
I talked about it, I hadan opportunity to show him your video as
we were going over some things there. So stay tuned, folks, Buddy
and I very we'll be on again, only on a different situation. All
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right, We'll continue on speaking tothe video that I am referring to,
Buddy. It was his own motionvideo number one year in the business.
Got it right, a minute intwenty eight seconds. My goodness, I
could get through that really good stuff. That was an impressive video and Ken
bull Reich real quickly, Buddy,Okay, he says, Hello, Scott
enjoyed watching Royals back then. Welldone, buddy, look at the fanga
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got out all right. So let'sgo back to the fact that you refer
to the nineteen eighty five World Seriesin most pressure pack games. You know,
you talked about your career, Youknow how you slowed things down.
Why don't you just elaborate on everythingthat we talk about in that sequence you
talk about a thirteen pro, twentyplus amateurs and motion. I'll let you
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take the lead on this one sincewe talked about it before, about what
you're trying out of this ROWL experience. Sure, so, you know,
Scott, even though even though Iwas a first round pick in nineteen seventy
eight, I was just somewhat ofa very marginal major league player. I
could never really figure out how tostay in the lineup on a regular basis.
However, I got in the WorldSeries in eighty five, and for
whatever reason, it just really sloweddown for me, and I wasn't thinking,
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and really everything I did was thisvery fluid in efflis And I choose
my words very carefully when I saythat every single ball at shortstop hit me
right in the sweet spot in sevengames, and every single thrill came out
of my hand with perfect speed andtrajectory. And it was that zone experience,
what happened to my brain in mybody that led me to researching and
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figuring a lot of things out aboutthe brain body connection and teaching athletes,
not just athletes, but musicians andeven salespeople how to get in the zone.
And you know, if you aska hundred athletes in any sport how
they felt when they played their best, if they take the time to think
about it, but they will mentionthose three things. If things slowed down,
they had more time, we weren'trushing, they weren't thinking, and
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the motion was more fluid in efflisSo we have quantified what happens in the
brain and more importantly, teach that. We call it kind of the library
preparation. We all in life,we have these libraries of preparation. We
do all the work, you know, and then boom, crunch time comes
and we want to be able toaccess the library preparation, right, And
so that's what we teach with zonemotion. And I've worked with athletes in
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thirteen professional sports, over twenty amateursports and done five five studies slash research
projects now and so we've we've proventhe Zone motion is the only mental training
program that increases performance. It's beenproven to increase performance, expedite development,
speed up the development, and minimizesoft tissue injuries, which is a very
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very big thing um in baseball.As we know with pictures, and I
saw that little blurb that came acrossyour screen here a moment ago about a
gentleman who talked about the injuries pitchinginjuries have increased. Yeah, I mean,
that's that's impressive. You know whatI've found interesting about what the reason?
I'm sorry, what's that I'm goingto say? The main reason things
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priority is the mechanic over the zonemotion process, how information moves through the
brain that allows all the muscles tofind or synchronistically, therefore providing more fluid
motion the body that creates a muscleand balance. So as our industry,
which has been great, they've learnedmore about quote perfect mechanics. However,
when they've gone to teach them right, we've seen an increase in injuries.
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And the reason is because the mechanicbecomes the priority that creates a muscle and
balance, and you combine that balancewith the fact that these are more arm
speed. That's a train wreck.That's what's happening. So we have to
make the brain the priority in orderto give an athlete the best chance of
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saying free of soft tissue injuries,not just soft tissue injuries, but injuries
in general. Because what happens withthis process with the brain of the proper
state, and the athlete becomes moreaware, they're more likely avoid situations,
make less unnecessary movement, or haveless unnecessary movement, which will limit reduced
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the chance of soft tissue injuries.That makes sense. Yeah, that's yeah,
that's it. Yeah, that ispretty interesting how you talk about that
too. You know, buddy,one of the things that intrigued me was
you're able to build this concept offof your World series experience. And you
know what I also found intrigued whenI was watching that video was I have
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an STP theory, buddy. It'sslow down't think, and proceed. And
you know what, I began todevelop some similarities with the STP theory with
a lot of what you were doing, Sorr that we were talking over each
other. I just want to makesure the connection sound so that we're able
to get our entire message out.Doesn't happen, so continue on did you
say traumatic. I'm sorry, Imean, yeah, what I've been saying
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is slow down, think it proceed. It's the same thing the STP motor
oil a little bit. I goahead and associate with that brain if you
get my draft. Yeah, soyou know I had I had a brain
injury as a kid as well,and had him as an adult as well,
which really made a lot of thingsvery difficult for me. He learned
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a lot about the brain and studya lot about the brain body connection,
which has led to my teaching.So it's kind of life will give you
some lemons and hopefully to turn theminto lemonade and kind of that's so you
know, I've built keen understanding,not just maternally, to be properly aligned
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so that their full ability can riseto the surface. So the motion that
they've practiced, it's in the librarypreparation. The middle of the brain can
be accessed. We want to accessit. It's one thing, you know,
being prepared right, you're prepared,you're prepared. Then we have to
access it right. And a lotof athletes work hard. They're wonderful athletes,
tremendous athletes. They understand what theyneed to do. And sudden the
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lights go on and they're not ableto access their full ability. And that's
because the brain body connection is notworking the way it can. They just
don't quite understand it. It's notthat they're mentally weak, right. A
lot of people talk about mental weakness. I don't talk about mental weakness,
right. You talk about really understandingthe brain anybody connection and makes sense the
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library preparation. Want to access thatlibrary preparation when it is needed. Yeah,
you know amazingly you talk about that. I've had a couple of concussions
when it comes to head injuries,so I can certainly relate about the traumatic
effect of brain injuries for sure.So so as we go on, so
I just want to make sure thatwe're up to speed on a little thing.
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A few things. I know you'veworked with salespeople and musicians, right.
I assume that that's an intricate partof what you're doing, A big
part of you know, primarily athletes. But I've done working the sales world
because I'd be working with executives onthe golf course and they'd say, what
you're teach, what you're teaching appliesto all of life. And so we
developed or I developed a program towork with salespeople because we all know we've
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all been sold to in life before, right, We've all kind of sold
to a certain degree, and weknow that when someone starts to nudge us
or push us, it causes alittle resistance and then there's a lack of
empathy in the relationship, a littledistance occurs. So what we're able to
do is is really give someone aneurophysiological experience of how that works, okay,
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and then train them to makethetic statetheir their default state. They become
more connected to the person that they'rethey're selling to or who's selling to them,
right, okay, and the offthe field benefit of its own motion.
We've seen, you know years ago, Scott, when I brought this
out sixteen years ago, I hadno idea that it would have as much
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of an effect on a human asit does. I just saw one of
them. Then I started hearing chanceand family members there is that they're just
kind of head they're happier, they'refeeling better, okay, Russian state.
So we saw that there was anincrease in data, which actually increases to
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oxytocin to feel good chemicals across theboard with a student. Aphewters not benefited
in the classroom as well, becausethe brain, when the brain starts to
access this state, you're intuitively alwaysseeking it in all areas of life,
not just while you're performing on thesports field, but whatever you're doing,
whether you're in a relationship or whetheryou're you know, studying for a test
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or taking a test. So,if I'm understanding it correctly, I know
this has a lot to do withathletes, and you apply it to sales
and musicians because I know full wellthat at anytime you have any octane situation
of a lot of what you're talkingon Because I know we talked about this
before. You know, it's safeto say, I think a lot of
what you're doing applies to multiple fields. Is really what it does. But
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I know your primary emphasis is onathletes. Is that correct? Oh?
For sure? Yeah, Now we'reprimarily focused on athletes, but it does
apply to really all areas of life. But I you know, you can't
spread yourself too thin, nor shouldI. But you know it's I'm blessed
to be able to work in multiplesports. I've decided that if I had
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to pitch, if I had towork just in one one sport, I'd
get bored now. So it's it'sreally gratifying to work with athletes in many
sports, primarily baseball. But Ido a lot of work on the PGA
tour, a lot of amateur golfersand auto racers and basketball players, and
so it's been a lot of joyfor me every day to be doing what
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I do. So let's go alittle bit deeper into the five studies or
of effectiveness of zone. I thinkyou talked about Martina correct or Jole motion.
I'm at zonn motion motion. Yeah, so tell me a little bit
more about that. So UM yearsago, at a time where pitching injuries
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were skyrocketing, I noticed that myprofessional and amateur pitching clients were not getting
hurt and I was kind of wonderingwhy. And I kind of figured out,
well, if if there's more fluidmotion, which there was, UM,
that would make sense. And soI decided to try and do some
research, which we ended up doingwith the American Sports Medicine Institute, which
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is a research institute in Birmingham,Alabama, headed up by doctor Glenn Fleisig.
The top baseball biomechanists in the world. This is where doctor Andrews practice
is sort of surgery, has hispractice down there in Birmingham, and he
has the research clinic that doctor fleisiadds up. So I to doctor Fleisik
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about doing the study which we endedup doing. We did it with seventeen
college pitchers and it was very verysuccessful. There was no change in the
biomechanics of the seventeen pitchers after trainingin zone motion, but the subjective experience
was very profound, to the pointwhere eighty eight percent of them felt more
relaxed, less shoulder discomfort, muchless elbow discomfort, all very very positive.
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No one felt worse, and soit was very very successful. And
in the report, doctor Fleisach wrotesomething that was very interesting. He wrote
that even though there was no changein the biomechanics, it doesn't preclude the
fact that there could be a changein the soft tissue, meaning that a
pitcher could throw the same pitch twicein a row with the same mechanics,
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but the soft tissue, the ligamentsand tendons and muscles and fashion could be
different. And Boob, that's whenthe light bulb went off of me and
I said, I know that's whatzone motion does, and that's why our
eyes are are you know, we'rehaving great success and keeping them free of
injury. And so that led tosome EMG research, which was its electro
biography where you measure the muscle voltage. We did and we did small sample
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size, but what we saw wasand this was the work was analyzed by
doctor Kevin Whitty, an orthotic surgeonwho does Tommy John surgery and you also
trained under doctor Andrews. And doctorWhitty said that the zone motion process shows
a decrease in the lat and anincrease in the pack, therefore showing more
support for the shoulder, and thereforewe can assume the elbow is what he
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said. So that was very,very successful and you know, proving that
what we're doing reduces soft tissue injuries. And for years we had seen an
increase in you know, we usedto call it life on the baseball.
Now it's called spin rate. Andso spin rate is a byproduct of really
four things, arm strength and armspeed, the proper kinetic chain of the
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body, proper mechanics, and lastand most importantly is how the brain is
functioning, getting signals through the brainto the cerebellum in a fashion that allows
all the muscles to fire synchronistically.So the ball just comes out of the
hand literally perfectly right. All themuscles are firing synchronistically, and that's what
allows an increase in spin rate.We've seen through through the research we did,
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we saw about a nine and ahalf percent increase in spin rate unforcing
fastball. We I know, clientshad told me there's there's spin rate has
increased more than that, and sothat's kind of that's the And then well
recently I did a couple months agojust completed heart rate research. It was
seeing there was a study done atthe twenty twenty Tokyo Olympics on archers in
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which they measured the heart rate whilethey were performing, and what they saw
was the reduced heart rate led toan increase in performance. And so I
went ahead and did some small samplesized research with four college baseball hitters for
baseball pitchers, and we saw adecrease after zone training of about a month
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and a half of training. Wesaw a decrease in heart rate about twelve
or thirteen percent for the group,which, you know, which is what
I expect. I expected to seea reduction heart rate. So you know,
as the heart raach subsides in performancecan increase. It doesn't mean it
definitely will increase, but with theproper training, it will increase. And
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you know, a lot of alot of professional sports are interested in and
teams are interested in heart rate variability. Heart rate variability is how quickly one
can recover from a stressful event.So say a pitcher throws h you know,
four balls in a row creates alittle stress in a system. You
know, how quickly can you getback on target? Right? That's very,
very important. And what I've toldteams is, you know, heart
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rate variability is great, it's wonderful. I love it needs to be worked
on. But what's more important what'staking place with the heart during the motion.
That's how you avoid the four walk, the four bowl walk, where
you don't have to be as concernwith HRV. Let's take care of what's
happening right here in this moment.Okay, That keeps the heart rate down,
That allows for fluid motion, increasedspin rate, reduce chance of soft
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tissue injury. You get the point. Great, a right to know what
the heart's doing in the moment.So when we put your research, buddy
in perspective. Okay, I knowwe've got a lot to chew on here.
What is it the one thing thatyou want most people to take away
from all the research that you've doneon zone motion or two things? Well,
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the main thing is that the zonemotion right increases performance, expedites development,
and reduces the chance of soft tissueinjury. Now, if I tell
a scientist day he looks at allmy research, he's going to say this
is hogwash because it's not pure reviewedresearch. And I'm going to say,
you're right, it's not pure reviewedresearch. But which I don't care about.
You know, we just care abouthelping the players, right. We
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care about helping the players, helpingthe teams, and keeping the players as
healthy as they possibly can be.Right. There are a lot of careers
that are ending because people are morefocused on velocity and mechanics, which are
very, very important. I'm ahuge fan of philosopy and mechanics, but
not at the expense of the waythe brain functions. Right, we want
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to make sure the brain is inthe right state, and then you go
to turn up velocity and you goto integrate the proper mechanics and which we
teach the integration process. Right.Coaches don't have to do anything different.
The players just need to be inthe zone when they're working on when they're
developing and performing. Okay, sowhat I'm going to do here, and
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I know this is a really interestingsubject. It really is. When we
put things in perspective. We talkabout the methodology that it's backed by science.
Is what we talked about, right, correct? Yes? And then
we talk about the expradites, developmentenhances, performances, minimize it soft issue
injuries, and only significantly prevent mentaltraining program. Is that correct when we
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summarize that perspective. I wouldn't sayit's the only significant mental training problem.
It's the only mental training problem thatI know of that has been proven to
do all of those things. Wecan use technology to prove everything that I've
I've stated through EMG spin rate andthe length of time it takes to develop
and make changes for an athlete tomake those mechanical changes that an athlete often
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needs to make. Yeah, Igot some good comments on chat or running
for these These are really really goodbuddy, George Ichor, what do you
think is wrong with the mental situationsfacing players like Tigers outfielder Austin Meadows.
Okay, I'm not familiar with whathe's going through right now. If they
want to expand on that, Ican comment. Okay, all right,
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George, I'll expand on it.Well. Do you think any athletic trainers
on a big league level in baseballor in other sports budding that do you
work with any of them? Iwork with the athletes. I'm open to
consulting with teams. We're going tomake that part of our model. They're
teams that have been very interested fora long time. I think they you
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know, in the scientific world,people are very concerned about pure reviewed studies,
which I don't have yet and probablynot going to do anytime soon.
We may, we may do alittle more research. We're open to team
sponsored research, which we would loveto do. Well. Do you ever
did you ever consider getting back intoMLB or minor league baseball as a manager,
(27:30):
hitting coach, or something else.Yeah, very I'm very interested in
in in helping a club access thezone so that they can again speed development
up and enhance performance and min ofmy soft tissue injury. So I'm extremely
interested in consulting with teams in thatcapacity for sure. One of the things
that was really impressed about your websiteand folks, you really you'll have an
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opportunity, buddy, to mention iton the back end of the show.
But one of the things that reallyamazed me was a testimonials that you had.
I'm going to mention some of theones that stood out to me.
One George Brett. You talked abouthelping him on the driving ranged, which
is pretty good. I'll he needsany help with his spring on his swing
anyway. But you had George Brett, Adam Otavio of the Mats. I'm
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just gonna listen and then you tellme the ones that stood out. Jeremy
Felt of the San Francisco Giants,Boston Davis or the Boston Retsons. You
helped Matt Caine with the San FranciscoGiants. He had a perfect game.
That was one that really really stoodout. Brad Markey of the Chicago Clubs,
mental mechanical sides of pitching, Jakepatricka and Milwaukee Brewers. Charlie Hoffman,
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four time PGA tournament winner, DoctorStacy Foccino, Morris Luca Witch or
the Winnipeg Jets, is retired.Scott mccarren, PJA Senior Tour director,
was rediscovering his youth on the seniortour. And then you also mentioned Benny
all right, I mentioned a lot. Tell me the ones that stood out
in your mind and what you wereable to do. Yeah, Well,
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Scott McCarn is a great one becauseScott came to me right when he turned
fifty years old. He was goingon the Senior PGA Tour. And Scott
was a guy who had done alot of good things in his career,
not just you know, on thecourse, but in Karen for himself.
He was kind of I would Ilook at Scott as being a kind of
a non problem case. You know. It wasn't like there was he was
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going through a you know, areally difficult mental situation. He was just
going on the senior tour and wantedevery advantage he could get. So we
worked together and he ended up winningeleven tournaments in the next four years,
over nine and a half million dollarseleven golf turbants he won in four years.
That was a great one. Anotherstory that I love was one of
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my first Major league pitchers, oneof my first Burtwith was a guy by
the name of Bobby Keppel. It'skind of a sandwich pick by the New
York Mets many years ago, andgot to Triple A a few cups of
coffee in the big leagues, butit was really struggling at Triple A to
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the point he had had a fivefour five r A over the course of
four seasons in Triple A and itdecided to retire and go to work for
his father's landscaping business. And hisagent called me and said, hey,
Bobby Kepple just got an invitation togo to the Twins major league camp and
he's thinking about giving it one morechance. Would you work with him?
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And they said sure, I'd behappy to do so, and so we
worked together and he went and hada pretty good spring training and was sent
to Triple A, where he endedup having a two four or five R
three points below his four your careeraverage in Triple A. Got called to
called up to the Minnesota Twins,and his first fourteen and the third innings
were scoreless, and then his firstmajor league win listen to this came in
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game one sixty three, not onesixty two, one sixty three it was
one game playoff with the Detroit Tigers. I was going to represent that division
in the playoffs. He got thewin, they sold his contract to Japan.
He went made about three million dollarsover the course of the next three
years. He was going from alandscaping job to putting three million dollars in
his pocket the next three years.Basically came out of retirement. That's a
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story that I just absolutely love,and I love this. I love the
Brad Marquis story. Although Brad isa retired minor league pitcher, Brad was
another non problem case, really solidhuman, solid individual was stuck in extended
spring training. It was a fiveten right handed pitcher, and if you're
nothing about pitching five ten right handedpitchers, the deck is stacked against him
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every day they go on the field. With Brad. It was a solid
guy. Actually knew him in highschool and he called me and said,
I think you can help me,and we worked together and a few weeks
later he got moved to A ballout of extended spring training, did extremely
well. A few weeks later hegot moved to high A ball and finished
the year there and ended up withthe second lowest whip in all of baseball
(31:53):
behind Clayton Kershaw. Okay, right, that's a non problem case. Now,
quite often people think that what Ido is for quote, a problem
case, someone with the yips orsomeone who's quote mentally weak or whatever it
is. That's not what zone emotionsabout. Zone emotions for any athlete who
wants to access or full ability inany given moment. Every athlete wants that.
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I certainly did. I had noidea how to do it. I
was out of the major leagues.I was out of the major leagues twenty
months after my zone experienced the WorldSeries because I didn't know what happened in
my mind and body that allowed meto play. So well, bring up
that Game one sixty eight was painful, man, I'm telling you, well,
remember that I write about the Tigers. Come on, but you know
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I'm gonna throw one at you.This is really good. You're reading ken
ball, right. There has tobe something different because Mickey Lullas won three
of the World Series games for theTigers in the nineteen sixty eight World Series.
How do you describe that one?Yeah? Right, So you know
back in those days, right,we didn't We didn't know a lot about
mechanics. Let's talk about pitching,right, We just didn't know a lot
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about pitching mechanics. They weren't reallytaught right, and so guys really stayed
free of injury. But again,the more we've learned about mechanics and gone
to teach them as as an industry, injuries have increased. Now does that
mean that mechanics should not be taught. Absolutely not. Mechanics should be taught,
but they need to be taught withthe brain in the right state,
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so that we can have a betterchance of staying free of injury, and
so that we can progress more quicklyas well and perform better. So usual
mechanics. But you're right. Backin those days Mickey launched. You know,
if you asked Becky Lows to reallybreak down all his mechanics, probably
couldn't do it, he said,I just threw the ball and would be
my guests. I don't know that, all right, So let me throw
this out. Do you think Mickeybelongs on Baseball Hall of Fame? I
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don't know enough about his numbers,You got it, That's that's the question.
I'm gonna I'm gonna turn that backto you. Does he I personally
do because number one, you know, he threw a lot of complete games
back there. He was an inningz eater, and he also had to
deal with the league when it wasin with a designated hit or what you
all think. Oh wow, Idon't know if his numbers, since they're
below two and a half to fifty, allow him to get there. But
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my buddy Tom Gage wrote a bookon him, and I've always I've actually
buddy had him on my show before. I'll he's he's my idol anyhow I
think he does. But that's subjectand you know I'm being a Tigers guy
like I am. You know,I huh, how many wins did?
I think? Two hundred? AndI don't know if top of my head
(34:28):
under two thirty I believe, sohe didn't make the two fifty markers all
I can tell you. But ifyou go out there and okay, well
let's all ahead, and let BillLoogo mentioned this, do you think don
manningly belongs to all of fame?You know? Again with without looking at
the numbers right in front of me, um, I can't answer on really,
well, some players I probably couldanswer on I mean Donnie, I
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mean Donnie really was a great player. He really took advantage of Yankee Stadium.
I can tell you that, youknow, that's porch, and he
was such a first it's such agreat first basement. But that short right
field porch. He could really takethe ball inside, inside, off the
quarner and really stay inside that betterthan any hitter in that era and hit
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that, you know, hit theball down the line for home run.
So he benefited by playing Yankee Stadium. I think he benefited by being a
Yankee. I think anybody who playsfor the Yankees gets a lot more publicity.
Right, But he was a greatplayer. I don't know enough about
his numbers overall numbers to say,yes, for sure, he belongs in
Hall of Fame. All right,one other question then, I want to
allow you to summarize everything and putit in perspective. Okay, how did
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you like playing at the old YankeeStadium? No place like it? Scott.
I've always said, there's there's theBig Leagues, and then there's Old
Yankee Stadium. You know, Isaw one game there. I paid a
lot of money there last year againstthe Tampa Bay Razo with worth it just
to go there one but go ahead, continue, Yeah, there was no
place like playing a Yankee Stadium.It was a completely different environment. It
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was just you know, the thehistory there, Bob Shephard, right in
those days, the PA announcer,you know, playing New York, New
York after the final out, justso many wonderful things, and just you
know, being in the city,right, being in the energy of New
York and playing baseball Yankee Stadium.I mean, there's just no trip like
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it in baseball. All right.So when you look at your career,
buddy, what would you say thehighlight of it? I know what it
was a little breathe, But wouldyou say, give me the highlight as
to what it was like on thefield, because I have an idea what
the highlight was off Go ahead,Well, pretty pretty simple. You know.
Winning the World Series in eighty fivewas by far the highlight of my
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professional career. You know, asa kid, I never again, I
never thought about playing the World Series, And even when I got to the
major leagues, I couldn't really fatand playing the World Series it's kind of
too big an event. But allof a sudden, all of a sudden,
I found myself playing in the WorldSeries and not only that I played
the best baseball in my professional career, felt like I couldn't do anything wrong,
and that was the benefit of youknow, entering the zone just by
(37:13):
chance, and now you know,we teach it by design. So um,
but that was just an amazing overallexperience, amazing time in my life.
The opportunities that came from it,being on David Letterman and the Today's
Show, and on Kansas cy magazineand just you know, all the opportunities.
But really I feel very blessed it. Twenty months later, I was
(37:37):
out of big leagues, but I'vereally you know, utilized that experience to
figure out, okay, what happenedin the World Series and more importantly,
how do I teach it? Youknow, so that all of us,
we all we all want to bethe best we can be in life,
right, whether we're an athlete orwhatever we're doing. And so my expertise
is help an athlete be the bestthey can be. And I just love
doing it. I love changing lives. Well, you bring up an interesting
(37:59):
point point, but I want toassume that obviously one of the highlights of
your career is that you were ableto use a World Series as your platform
to do things withs own motion.Is that correct? Absolutely? Yeah,
all right. So my follow upto that is, when you look at
the show that we've done today,what do you want to get the most
out of this whole thing that youwant to convey to everybody that has a
(38:22):
chance to listen to it one ortwo times? A great question. Yeah,
the thing none of us know,We don't know, right, and
the key is to really be opento better ways, being open to what
you don't know, what you can'tsee, and what you may not remember
that you forgot. And so againa lot of people think that zone motion
(38:45):
is for quote problem cases. Now, the brain is the operating system to
the muscles, and so we workwith the brain on the field so that
the athlete can start to change thenarrow pathways in the brain and therefore the
muscles. When you change the neuropathwaysin the brain and you make what we
call the zone emotion process the prioritythe default state for the brain, that's
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when you start to experience the gameis slowing down and not thinking in fluid
efforts motion. So that's what Iwould love people to understand. Okay,
So one thing I should ask youwhat other major shows have you been invited
on to talk about what you're doingthat I mentioned you Just tell me what
they are if I can recall.So the Major League Baseball Network I was
(39:30):
on several years ago talking about this, you know, been on plenty of
podcasts, and Baseball America did astory on me. I can't remember,
you know, just that we gota new book coming out probably the beginning
of next year called Art of theZone. Very excited about that. Well,
well, I'll make sure there's aroom for you to promote that.
(39:52):
Mark my word. Will man Scottappreciate you? Well you are too,
So what I want you to do? Now, buddies, let everybody know
how they get old. Yeah,oh that's great. Yeah they can.
They can go to zonemotion dot comand they can send me an email at
Buddy Buddy at zonemotion dot com.Very good. So there you go.
(40:12):
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(41:21):
this one is here, Buddy,I'm just so glad we had an opportunity
to get this out there. AndI should point out though that when I
mentioned LinkedIn, I had the goodfortune of meeting Buddy Bank on LinkedIn.
So for those of you in theprofessional business, get out there and get
on LinkedIn. So, Buddy,I want to thank you very much for
joining us on tonight's edition of NoLimits. And the last thing you want
to add now, just I appreciateyou, Scott, thank you so much
(41:43):
for having me and yes, wemet on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is a great
platform. Encourage people to go tolinked In and I'd love to connect with
more people on LinkedIn. So iflectto connectively on LinkedIn, please do so.
Buddy Bancala, very good. Well, you have a great story,
and I think the one thing aboutit is you have something that so many
people don't realize. And I thinkthe most important thing, Buddy, that's
important is we let everybody go outthere and make bring awareness to it and
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I'll do everything in my power todiligently promote it. Go ahead, can
I also mentioned to connected me onInstagram? That would be great absolutely and
everything you know well, for thatmatter, mentioned Twitter, and I'm on
Twitter and Instagram. Yes, thata boy you got it might as well
do it so so meanwhile, thankyou, thank you everybody for joining us
on this edition of No Limits.On behalf of Buddy Beyond Klanna, the
(42:30):
nineteen eighty five world champion. Forthat, Kansas City Royals Gotta rang,
gotta get that in there. Myname is Scott Morgan, rowthim Otor City,
mad Mouth. Thank you for joiningus and we will catch you on
tomorrow night. We have a doubleheaderone hundred and eighth Sitchies Baseball Talk and
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
Dateline NBC
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!