October 29, 2024 • 30 mins
Eamonn Barclay talks with Bethany Manktelow and Myles Thornton, the two youngest members of the NOLUT Team. They discuss their backgrounds, NOLUT involvement, aspirations, and hopes for Millwall. Our young and inspiring team members tell it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Bethany Mantalo. Here you have joined us for the
magnificent monthly Millwell Podcast, which features thoughts from the panel
about what affects the beautiful game and Millwell enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Amon Barclay and with me I have Bethany Mactelow
and Miles Thornton.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Not everybody likes them, but they don't care.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, of course they do really and tonight it's all
about that because what we've got is the two youngest
members of our No One Likes Us a talking team
on the show and were just going to find out
our two youngest members got engaged with No One Likes
Us talking a little bit about them and where they
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see their place within the millwall supporting arrangements. Ladies. First,
Bethany to us a bit you are a lady, of
course us a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I'm Bethany. I'm sure a few of our listeners
have heard my voice a few times. I am twenty nine,
i am married. I've got a lovely husband called James.
I've got a wonderful mum and dad, Sandre and Steve. Steve,
you will also hear on our podcast Steve it's my
dad and I've got a twin brother called Ben. I
live in Essex now, but I'm originally from Southeast London.
(01:28):
I lived in where I lived in Bexy Heath most
of my life and I work for charity. So yeah,
and I love everything Millwall, but sort of contrasting to that,
people are always shocked when I tell them I'm a
mill Will fan. Of me mill season ticket holder because
I'm obsessed with all things theater, Pink Disney, super girly,
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Big Disney, adult, always have been. But also Millwall is
the opper love of my life.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And what about your personal development award stage in life.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So I'm part of an amateur theater company, the Saffron
Walden Musical Theater Company, just a little plug there. I
loved performing from a young age. I trained at Italia
Conti School of Performing Arts when I left secondary school
and I sort of fell out of love with acting
and performing really because the audition process is very hard
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and you've got to be very very resilient, and I
found myself quite sensitive. So I stopped everything, moved to
safrom Walden, found the theater company and I've finished my
first show. I'm a rehearsing for our second one, so
well for my second one, so yeah, I'm loving it. Yes,
(02:48):
we're rehearsing for Avita, which will be on in March
twenty twenty five. So that's just started. That's super exciting.
A big contrast from the last show we did All
Shook Up, which is the Elvis Jukebox Jukebox Musical, which
is based on Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. So a bit of
a contrast, but it's just as fun. It's going to
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be great to be back on stage.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Great. Now, I've just heard the voice that many people
say it's probably the best voice on all of the
mill podcasts.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
No, really, that's so nice.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Anyway, we'll turn away from the best voice on the
Millwall podcast two Miles Thornton mac Berman boy. Actually tell
us a little bit about you, Miles.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, as you said, Amen, I'm a Bermonsey boy, born
and bred and I'm eighteen years old at the minute,
currently studying towards the Sports Business and Broadcasting degree at
you Jeffie Wembley. That wouldn't have been possible without no
life firstly, So yeah, that's a little bit about me,
and yeah, I'm just trying to pursue that that journalism career, and.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
When you go to school. Yeah, he went at Michaels,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, and I believe there's a trait in the family
of guying there as well.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, many generations have gone there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
There you go. That can't be too bad, can I
When did you join us Smarts?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I joined in January twenty twenty three. I wanted to
go into podcasts and I didn't really know what one.
I listened to this particular one and I thought, you
know what I've got aiming on Facebook, I'll give it
a god message him and I did just that, and yeah,
got a few chats and and then I joined up.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, we're very welcoming. It isn't that right? Better than
what was your experience?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah? You are so. I I was a fan in
the dugout oh, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I think twenty eighteen,
twenty eighteen was it? Yeah, I remember, because we've not
lived in in Stance did long at that time? I
think you asked me to come back on again. And
then I was a guest for a while, and then
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I was on the panel and then I started hosting.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's it. Yeah, you've done quite well, really, haven't you?
And you've enjoyed yourself?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I have. I loved it, And you know, I never
really thought about podcasts. I love listening to podcasts. It's
I usually prefer if I'm not listening to a musical
theater soundtrack, I'm listening to a podcast. It's usually about
murder and true crime and all that. But then I
do have my football podcast as well, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
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then I joined and I haven't looked back.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Quite a mixed no, bethany, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just just you know, I've got to be all well rounded,
just all different.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Who you got anything you'd like to ask? Miles?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do you remember your first ever meal game?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I believe I think it was scunne for at home. No,
that's that's the first one I can remember anyway. Yeah,
it gone for I'm not sure, you know, I'm really
not sure because back in the dark days, maybe twenty
sixteen potentially.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So what was yours? Ben? For me? That's the adver question.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, I really don't remember my first one because I
remember going to some as a kid, and I remember
watching Neil Harris, I remember watching Tim kay Hill, so
I must have been about eight or nine but the
one I remember clearly would have been It was twenty eleven.
It was one of the first home games of the season.
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It could have even been the first one. It was
Millill Peterborown we want we drew to too, and it
was Leon Trotter and oh.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I remember but obviously caught the eye.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I remember, and I remember Darius Henderson assisted both
of them, but I cannot remember the life of me.
Who scored second. But yeah, we drew two too, of Peterborough.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Varius Henderson, the man that could have been incredible. There
you go, if you go in, I think you'd like
to ask.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, definitely a little bit about your your theater shows. Really,
I was going to ask you how did you get
into what you've said it earlier? About how you got
into it?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, I was performing. I mean I was always performing
as a kid. They couldn't stop me. I was the
amazing Angel Gabriel and Nativity wasn't too happy that I
wasn't Mary, but the Angel was fine. I did. I
was in a Disneyland advert, I was on some CBBC
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shows and I loved it. As a kid. Decided that
it was what I was going to push you. I
was my school were really pushing me to go into
primary school teaching because they were like, you know, like
acting isn't a career, you know, it won't you know,
you shouldn't go into that. But then my drama department
were like, no, you're gonna You're going to apply for
drama school and you're going to get in. So I
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was like, oh, okay, okay, I'll do it. I got in,
but it turned out it just wasn't the career for me.
It was just something that I enjoyed doing for fun.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I guess, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, doing things for fun is what we do every
Thursday sometimes other times of the week as well. Doesn't
always go to plan, but it can be. I can.
I just cannot forget the hamster event.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Oh she's so naughty. So usually she's really good and
she's I've managed to train her. She responds to her
name and do things if I tell us to do them.
And for whatever reason, that night, she just wouldn't stop
chewing on her cage. I'd given her the food, I
changed up her cage, if she had loads of enrichment.
(09:09):
Nothing was working. So I just remember going stop it.
Her name is Princess Leia l.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You said, remember, yeah, we have Star Wars pet. I
think it's it's brilliant, it will be I think we'll
feature it on the Christmas.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Show, Yeah, or something.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's it. What's your funniest moment.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My funniest funniest moment.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I'm mean, I always find it amusing when I see
George said it in the show, because I know something.
I know something's going to go wrong when Georgie said
it in the show. Whenever we have a chat before
the pressure record, I say, oh god, George, you're read
in something's going to go wrong and it always does,
always does.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And you reckon that's true. Better, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Would say so. I don't know why. It's it's George,
It's it's just George. Whatever it is about George.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, it will be pleased to hear that, no doubt,
give him a bigger excuse to turn around me and say, well,
I can't do it tonight, but we'll see. We'll have
to wait and see. Over time, there's some brilliant quotes
and and people getting names of players, ever so entertaining
(10:37):
the wrong ted Last week, he just could not say
Ivanovitch couldn't say could You couldn't because what he was saying, well,
I have Avich and I thought, God, you were on
a cloavage in a minute. That was That was one.
And then there's another character on the on the show
(11:00):
who pronounces tang ganger in so many different ways. It's
just incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think I've managed to teach him it's tangang, not tanger.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You're left to try with someone else then, and you
can give him voice over education. That's pretty good. Has
there been anything Miles that has shocked you from any
of their I suppose guests when you've listened to the show.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, I don't know if anyone's ever heard this story,
but still Coleman won the United You've got that was
quite shocking. You know, really.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
When does that been?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't know, I can't remember. Now he hasn't said it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Much, No, no, I fear not. But at least now
that we've got him on tails from his boot room,
he says it less frequently. I think that's fair to.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Say, yeah, yeah, so that is a bonus.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
How about you, Bethley, do you recollect anything that any
player has said that sort of made you.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Go blindly, I don't think so. But I think a
player that sort of surprised me the most about just
how lovely he is was Aidan O'Brien. O Ye, honestly,
I just he was kind, you know, he actually took
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a genuine interest in what we were saying, how we
were and he had some great things to say. But
I don't know, you know, you see some young footballers
and I'm not saying that this is for any of
the necessarily the midble players. I'm sure there are some
of them, but some young players who have got a
little bit of success really think that they are everything
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and that the world revolves around them. And I didn't
necessarily think that of aide O'Brien, but he was just
so lovely and it was just really refreshing to see
a young man talk so wonderfully about football and the
stuff that he's done for the community and the kids.
See that was that was a nice surprise. I think.
(13:21):
I don't think there's been anything that's made me go
I don't think so. No, not on my shows anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, he's playing his trade out in the Republic of
Violand now and he's in with a chance getting a
medal as a league winner. But we'll have to wait
and see, and we're.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Getting back if he Oh, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. So when you joined us, were you apprehensive about
what we did and what you wanted to do or
did you ever plan? Uh that point?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
No, I didn't have a plan. I wanted to I
wanted to get started someway. I didn't know how I
was going to get started, and I thought I'd give
it a go, trying the podcasting route, and thankfully that's
what what has actually helped it quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have a plan when I joined,
but I certainly do now.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
As I've always said, if you've got a play, it
will work. If you haven't, it don't happen. What about you, Bethitie.
I know your your journey has been quite some time
really with us. Now, it won't be long before we're
giving you the ten year medal. Actually it's not that
far away.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's so scary that you say that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, it could be all of three years in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I don't think it's anything that I expected to
be a part of. Especially you know, as a woman,
you don't really see a lot of women on Football
PLA cast. There are a few, and it's it was
so nice to be welcomed by a group of men
(15:06):
and some women that that just took on this young
girl that loves me. Well, I love doing it. It's
one of my it's one of my favorite hobbies.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, that's excellent. What would you say to that, Miles,
To an aspiring person that comes out with views like.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
If you want to go into the root of podcasting
or journalism or anything, joining up would be amazing for you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, and we could always do with some more young
and inspiring people because the maturity of us wrong side
of fifty. Yeah, without a doubt some of us. Well
I won't go down that route, but there you go.
It's a it's an intriguing arena and it is brilliant
(15:58):
toever you guys on. So, Miles, you on match days
actually broadcast to Maritime Radio, which is based in Greenwich,
covers southeast London and northwest Ken tell us a little
bit about that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, So that's an opportunity that rose through through No Lot,
through the relationship between the two. It was something that
as I joined No Lut and started progressing and I
looked into potential career opportunities through podcasting what I can do.
It was something that I was very very much ready
to try and take on. And thankfully now I've been
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given the opportunity to go in the press box every
game and life out to the maritime radio listeners.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And that's a really good thing, and it's something that
you do very well. And most recently you stepped in
on absent tea Jeff Burnage who's enjoying himself somewhere down
in the Cornish Riviera this couple of next week and
you picked up on the line less. It's so that's
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come across quite well as well. So that's good stuff. Definitely,
what would you like to do any more of or
any differently with us?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that's a good question. Something I think that would
be really good if we could somehow facilitate it is
if we did a live podcast of us all in
a room or I think in a room would be
good and just sitting down and talking about the club
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that we love. I'd love to do something like that.
I'd also love to see another girl close to my
age on the pod as well as a as a
regular member well.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That would be. That would be really nice, But Miles
only knows ones that are younger than them, so we
won't be able to do but I think that would
be good. Now, the potential for all of you sitting
in the room and recording that life is going to
be upon us shortly, and I'm hoping that that starts
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in November and it will be on a Saturday evening,
so it'll be after a game at the Den. But
it would require us trip up to Greenwich to Maritime
Studios to do it. But that's okay because you and
Steve can go along and then you can get home
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from there, can't you. Absolutely that will be good. And
the Miles has been learning how to operate all the
studio equipment, haven't you, Miles.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, hopefully that was an R.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah what was the earth?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, well, since I started university, it's all took a
bit of a backstep, but I've been hoping to get
back on that. But yeah, there's something that I'm looking
into and hope through you a nice little announcement shortly
about potential new opportunities there.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Good, we'll be doing some stuff there of your own,
but we as a mill no one likes us talking.
We'll be doing a monthly show live at Maritime Studios
and not the two distant future. So there you go
your wishes.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
There better me amazing slightly predicting the future.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It was, wasn't it straight off the back of me pen,
which they do they I'll have to remember that when
you're on the show. Out, Oh full moons and witches? Myles,
Where did the family hang out at the den?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's only really me and my mum and the family
that go to mer Wall I said this in speech
marks regularly. Obviously, I go every game. My mom tries
to get along as often as possible, but if not,
she's always listening in or watching it home. Yeah, if
she's on a night game she can watch it. But yeah,
when we do go, we sit in Blot forty with
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Harvey Brown and family and friends.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
That's nice. You're quite close with Harvey and the Brown family.
We can often find you in their company if they're
in the Trust building or even in Harvey's den care
but is no longer within the Brown hands, but they
retain the name and any Milliken runs a shop there
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with with a few other young ladies, and they do
a good job in there, Mars.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, they do. They do a really good job.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'd say, if you're early to the Din on match days,
go in and enjoy what's there, Biffany, you and your
father Steve will locate in a very interesting place, as
as I found out when I was not so recently
but last season, I was on the pitch and you
were in the stands, and you're in the most entertaining block,
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aren't you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh, we are absolutely in the most entertaining block. I
absolutely love where we sit. I never want to leave
our seats. I always want to make sure we get
those seats. So we are in Bloc thirty and we
are in C directly next to the away dugout, so
my dad sits directly next to it, and I sit
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next to him. We were so lucky that those two
tickets came up when we decided to get season tickets
back in twenty fourteen. I think that season and it
is the most entertaining, honestly. I remember when we played
Leicester in the FA Cup. There was somebody behind us
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and he's brilliant and he learned Italian to insult Claudio
Yi and I can't remember the manager I can't remember
his name, but he was Russian and then they learned
Russian to insult him in Russian. And it's just it
is amazing where we sit, and you know, all of
the men that sit around me are they're all like
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my dad's funny story. Actually, the first time I decided
to meet Jamie, my husband, we'd met online and I thought, well,
I'm only going to meet him in my safe place,
which is Millwalk, because my dad couldn't go to a game.
I said, you can come watch a game with me.
Because I knew if he was a weirdo, I wanted
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it to end. I had all of these men around
me that know me, that could help me get out
of a bad situation. Luckily we didn't. I didn't need
to rely on that, and you know, we're married. The
rest is history. But yeah, I absolutely love where we sit,
absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And does James you know that that was your intention?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
He does now, he didn't know at the time. We
genuinely met because of Millwell. Actually he's a South End fan,
and you know, funny enough, in his wedding speech he
actually pulled up all my old tweets about South End
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fans and how they're all for and all this. So
he decided to tell everyone that we had a mutual
follower who was a Millwill fan. He sent me a
message or slid into my d MS as they say,
I can't convert him to being a mill Will fan. Also,
I don't want to because you know he's South End.
He can stay there.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Well, when you listen to this, Jamie, you can stay
in South End then and in Essex. Okay, goodness, gracious, Miles,
how long you got up Wembley at the UNI?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yep on there till twenty twenty seven? Just as to
think about it, I'll be graduating twenty twenty seven. Hopefully
I'll be graduating with a first class degree. That's the end,
that's your objective.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Good. How are you getting on with the arrangements there?
Because it must be when in advance of a lot
of your UNI pairs in terms of what you've been doing,
aren't it? No?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Not really, to be fair, we've all been quite active
over the summer or the last year. There's a lot
of people there that have already got you know, experience elsewhere. Good.
So I think that's really good as well, because we
can all share our own experiences and what's happened maybe
you know negatives has happened and also positives and yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I think that's really good.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I remember in there earlier days, we used to
they all thought that they might come and talk to us.
It wasn't for a podcast to be It was for
them to run a podcast with a bunch of mid wilfects.
But unfortunately, I don't think they got what they expected.
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And the likes of me Henry Morgan, Jeff We're quite pleasant,
didn't cause them any grief and sort of ask them,
why are you asking us questions about things that happened
thirty four years ago? But they haven't come back to
us because I don't think we're controversial enough for them.
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So Evita, who are you playing in Evita? Bethany, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
The ensemboard this year, right, so you'll see me in
the background doing lots of nice dances and singing all
the songs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, it should be a good one. We're really sort
of getting into the swing of it now and sort
of seeing the vision of the director come together. You know,
it's when people say how much theater you think it's
so great that I suppose you can vouch for it.
It's a very, very professionally.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Run I baoroughly enjoyed it good earlier this year, and
I'm gonna enjoy it again next year. But I'm going
to add a nice soft cushion to sit on. Downside.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, those town hall seats aren't the most comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Forward to. So, Miles millwell, this season, what do you
think where we go? We're going up.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I've seen enough. I've seen enough.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We're going up enough. Well the table, you may well?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, at the table, Yeah, that's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Would you add any more any sort of prediction where
we'll finished?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't like to predict where we're going to finish
because I always get horribly wrong. But I would like
to think we're going to make would make a playoff push,
like if.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You are wrong, we won't hold it against you. That's
fair enough, isn't it, Bethany, What about yourself?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I say every year we are going to go to
the Premier League. Right when we were in League one,
I said we're going to the Championship, and it eventually happened.
If I keep saying it, it will happen, you know,
it's a shame that results haven't really gone our way
at the start of the season. But November time is
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when we really start to come together and it really
starts to we start to go on a good run.
So I have one hundred percent faith that we're going up.
I refuse to say that we will stay in the Championship.
We will be going to the Premier League. It's what
we need.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And of course, you guys, even if those dreams at
this moment in time do not come to fruition, You've
got so many years in front of you to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Actually, it has to happen at least one point. Even
if we go straight back down, we can say that
we have done it. I think that our fans often forget,
you know, John Berylson or James Berylson. You know, we've
done very well for a while now, you know under
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Gary Rowitt, I know there's a lot of people that
don't like him, and that's fine. I really liked Gary Rowitt.
I love Neil Harris. He's my favorite. I will always
say that. But we were chasing playoff places season after season.
You can't say that's bad.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, it's good to see. Good to see it's good
to see, and my finger is across that Neil can
sort of reproduce that film this year and beyond. He
certainly is playing a different game. He's the one that
he's played when he was with us, and he came
under fire inappropriately. Let's hope that that we can be
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a bit more closer to that desire that you both
want and get to the top life.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's what we need and it's what we deserve as
young me Will I know I'm nearly thirty, but I'm
still saying that I'm young. We deserve it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well. You are, you are, you haven't got to middle
age yet. That's the that the next heard of Bethany.
I suppose the wonderful thing about both of you is
that you are both inspiring in what you do and
majorly younger than the rest of the team. But you
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don't let that sort of go against you. You do
a great job. And if there's anybody else out there,
I would like to join in with Bethany and Miles
and the big part of the team. We're always there
to listen, and we thoroughly enjoy you joining us. No
one likes us talking well. Thanks Bethany, Thanks Miles. It's
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been a pleasure speaking to you both.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
This has been great.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, thank you very much, Amy, it's been it's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Always good fun. Take care, keep it safe on the
streets out there, and we'll be back with our mer
Will fan show on Friday evenings and another monthly show
in the not too distant future in November. Bye for now.
Hi, Bethany Mantalo. Here you have joined us for the
magnificent monthly Millwell Podcast, which features thoughts from the panel
about what affects the beautiful game and Millwell enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Amon Barclay and with me I have Bethany Mactelow
and Miles Thornton.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Not everybody likes them, but they don't care.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, of course they do really and tonight it's all
about that because what we've got is the two youngest
members of our No One Likes Us a talking team
on the show and were just going to find out
our two youngest members got engaged with No One Likes
Us talking a little bit about them and where they
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see their place within the millwall supporting arrangements. Ladies. First,
Bethany to us a bit you are a lady, of
course us a little bit about you.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I'm Bethany. I'm sure a few of our listeners
have heard my voice a few times. I am twenty nine,
i am married. I've got a lovely husband called James.
I've got a wonderful mum and dad, Sandre and Steve. Steve,
you will also hear on our podcast Steve it's my
dad and I've got a twin brother called Ben. I
live in Essex now, but I'm originally from Southeast London.
(01:28):
I lived in where I lived in Bexy Heath most
of my life and I work for charity. So yeah,
and I love everything Millwall, but sort of contrasting to that,
people are always shocked when I tell them I'm a
mill Will fan. Of me mill season ticket holder because
I'm obsessed with all things theater, Pink Disney, super girly,
(01:50):
Big Disney, adult, always have been. But also Millwall is
the opper love of my life.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And what about your personal development award stage in life.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So I'm part of an amateur theater company, the Saffron
Walden Musical Theater Company, just a little plug there. I
loved performing from a young age. I trained at Italia
Conti School of Performing Arts when I left secondary school
and I sort of fell out of love with acting
and performing really because the audition process is very hard
(02:27):
and you've got to be very very resilient, and I
found myself quite sensitive. So I stopped everything, moved to
safrom Walden, found the theater company and I've finished my
first show. I'm a rehearsing for our second one, so
well for my second one, so yeah, I'm loving it. Yes,
(02:48):
we're rehearsing for Avita, which will be on in March
twenty twenty five. So that's just started. That's super exciting.
A big contrast from the last show we did All
Shook Up, which is the Elvis Jukebox Jukebox Musical, which
is based on Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. So a bit of
a contrast, but it's just as fun. It's going to
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be great to be back on stage.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Great. Now, I've just heard the voice that many people
say it's probably the best voice on all of the
mill podcasts.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
No, really, that's so nice.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Anyway, we'll turn away from the best voice on the
Millwall podcast two Miles Thornton mac Berman boy. Actually tell
us a little bit about you, Miles.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, as you said, Amen, I'm a Bermonsey boy, born
and bred and I'm eighteen years old at the minute,
currently studying towards the Sports Business and Broadcasting degree at
you Jeffie Wembley. That wouldn't have been possible without no
life firstly, So yeah, that's a little bit about me,
and yeah, I'm just trying to pursue that that journalism career, and.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
When you go to school. Yeah, he went at Michaels,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, and I believe there's a trait in the family
of guying there as well.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, many generations have gone there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
There you go. That can't be too bad, can I
When did you join us Smarts?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I joined in January twenty twenty three. I wanted to
go into podcasts and I didn't really know what one.
I listened to this particular one and I thought, you
know what I've got aiming on Facebook, I'll give it
a god message him and I did just that, and yeah,
got a few chats and and then I joined up.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, we're very welcoming. It isn't that right? Better than
what was your experience?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah? You are so. I I was a fan in
the dugout oh, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I think twenty eighteen,
twenty eighteen was it? Yeah, I remember, because we've not
lived in in Stance did long at that time? I
think you asked me to come back on again. And
then I was a guest for a while, and then
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I was on the panel and then I started hosting.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's it. Yeah, you've done quite well, really, haven't you?
And you've enjoyed yourself?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I have. I loved it, And you know, I never
really thought about podcasts. I love listening to podcasts. It's
I usually prefer if I'm not listening to a musical
theater soundtrack, I'm listening to a podcast. It's usually about
murder and true crime and all that. But then I
do have my football podcast as well, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
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then I joined and I haven't looked back.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Quite a mixed no, bethany, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just just you know, I've got to be all well rounded,
just all different.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Who you got anything you'd like to ask? Miles?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do you remember your first ever meal game?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I believe I think it was scunne for at home. No,
that's that's the first one I can remember anyway. Yeah,
it gone for I'm not sure, you know, I'm really
not sure because back in the dark days, maybe twenty
sixteen potentially.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So what was yours? Ben? For me? That's the adver question.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, I really don't remember my first one because I
remember going to some as a kid, and I remember
watching Neil Harris, I remember watching Tim kay Hill, so
I must have been about eight or nine but the
one I remember clearly would have been It was twenty eleven.
It was one of the first home games of the season.
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It could have even been the first one. It was
Millill Peterborown we want we drew to too, and it
was Leon Trotter and oh.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I remember but obviously caught the eye.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I remember, and I remember Darius Henderson assisted both
of them, but I cannot remember the life of me.
Who scored second. But yeah, we drew two too, of Peterborough.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Varius Henderson, the man that could have been incredible. There
you go, if you go in, I think you'd like
to ask.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, definitely a little bit about your your theater shows. Really,
I was going to ask you how did you get
into what you've said it earlier? About how you got
into it?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, I was performing. I mean I was always performing
as a kid. They couldn't stop me. I was the
amazing Angel Gabriel and Nativity wasn't too happy that I
wasn't Mary, but the Angel was fine. I did. I
was in a Disneyland advert, I was on some CBBC
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shows and I loved it. As a kid. Decided that
it was what I was going to push you. I
was my school were really pushing me to go into
primary school teaching because they were like, you know, like
acting isn't a career, you know, it won't you know,
you shouldn't go into that. But then my drama department
were like, no, you're gonna You're going to apply for
drama school and you're going to get in. So I
(08:13):
was like, oh, okay, okay, I'll do it. I got in,
but it turned out it just wasn't the career for me.
It was just something that I enjoyed doing for fun.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I guess, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, doing things for fun is what we do every
Thursday sometimes other times of the week as well. Doesn't
always go to plan, but it can be. I can.
I just cannot forget the hamster event.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Oh she's so naughty. So usually she's really good and
she's I've managed to train her. She responds to her
name and do things if I tell us to do them.
And for whatever reason, that night, she just wouldn't stop
chewing on her cage. I'd given her the food, I
changed up her cage, if she had loads of enrichment.
(09:09):
Nothing was working. So I just remember going stop it.
Her name is Princess Leia l.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You said, remember, yeah, we have Star Wars pet. I
think it's it's brilliant, it will be I think we'll
feature it on the Christmas.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Show, Yeah, or something.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That's it. What's your funniest moment.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My funniest funniest moment.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I'm mean, I always find it amusing when I see
George said it in the show, because I know something.
I know something's going to go wrong when Georgie said
it in the show. Whenever we have a chat before
the pressure record, I say, oh god, George, you're read
in something's going to go wrong and it always does,
always does.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And you reckon that's true. Better, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Would say so. I don't know why. It's it's George,
It's it's just George. Whatever it is about George.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, it will be pleased to hear that, no doubt,
give him a bigger excuse to turn around me and say, well,
I can't do it tonight, but we'll see. We'll have
to wait and see. Over time, there's some brilliant quotes
and and people getting names of players, ever so entertaining
(10:37):
the wrong ted Last week, he just could not say
Ivanovitch couldn't say could You couldn't because what he was saying, well,
I have Avich and I thought, God, you were on
a cloavage in a minute. That was That was one.
And then there's another character on the on the show
(11:00):
who pronounces tang ganger in so many different ways. It's
just incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think I've managed to teach him it's tangang, not tanger.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You're left to try with someone else then, and you
can give him voice over education. That's pretty good. Has
there been anything Miles that has shocked you from any
of their I suppose guests when you've listened to the show.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, I don't know if anyone's ever heard this story,
but still Coleman won the United You've got that was
quite shocking. You know, really.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
When does that been?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't know, I can't remember. Now he hasn't said it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Much, No, no, I fear not. But at least now
that we've got him on tails from his boot room,
he says it less frequently. I think that's fair to.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Say, yeah, yeah, so that is a bonus.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
How about you, Bethley, do you recollect anything that any
player has said that sort of made you.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Go blindly, I don't think so. But I think a
player that sort of surprised me the most about just
how lovely he is was Aidan O'Brien. O Ye, honestly,
I just he was kind, you know, he actually took
(12:39):
a genuine interest in what we were saying, how we
were and he had some great things to say. But
I don't know, you know, you see some young footballers
and I'm not saying that this is for any of
the necessarily the midble players. I'm sure there are some
of them, but some young players who have got a
little bit of success really think that they are everything
(13:00):
and that the world revolves around them. And I didn't
necessarily think that of aide O'Brien, but he was just
so lovely and it was just really refreshing to see
a young man talk so wonderfully about football and the
stuff that he's done for the community and the kids.
See that was that was a nice surprise. I think.
(13:21):
I don't think there's been anything that's made me go
I don't think so. No, not on my shows anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well, he's playing his trade out in the Republic of
Violand now and he's in with a chance getting a
medal as a league winner. But we'll have to wait
and see, and we're.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Getting back if he Oh, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. So when you joined us, were you apprehensive about
what we did and what you wanted to do or
did you ever plan? Uh that point?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
No, I didn't have a plan. I wanted to I
wanted to get started someway. I didn't know how I
was going to get started, and I thought I'd give
it a go, trying the podcasting route, and thankfully that's
what what has actually helped it quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have a plan when I joined,
but I certainly do now.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
As I've always said, if you've got a play, it
will work. If you haven't, it don't happen. What about you, Bethitie.
I know your your journey has been quite some time
really with us. Now, it won't be long before we're
giving you the ten year medal. Actually it's not that
far away.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's so scary that you say that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, it could be all of three years in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I don't think it's anything that I expected to
be a part of. Especially you know, as a woman,
you don't really see a lot of women on Football
PLA cast. There are a few, and it's it was
so nice to be welcomed by a group of men
(15:06):
and some women that that just took on this young
girl that loves me. Well, I love doing it. It's
one of my it's one of my favorite hobbies.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, that's excellent. What would you say to that, Miles,
To an aspiring person that comes out with views like.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
If you want to go into the root of podcasting
or journalism or anything, joining up would be amazing for you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, and we could always do with some more young
and inspiring people because the maturity of us wrong side
of fifty. Yeah, without a doubt some of us. Well
I won't go down that route, but there you go.
It's a it's an intriguing arena and it is brilliant
(15:58):
toever you guys on. So, Miles, you on match days
actually broadcast to Maritime Radio, which is based in Greenwich,
covers southeast London and northwest Ken tell us a little
bit about that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, So that's an opportunity that rose through through No Lot,
through the relationship between the two. It was something that
as I joined No Lut and started progressing and I
looked into potential career opportunities through podcasting what I can do.
It was something that I was very very much ready
to try and take on. And thankfully now I've been
(16:35):
given the opportunity to go in the press box every
game and life out to the maritime radio listeners.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And that's a really good thing, and it's something that
you do very well. And most recently you stepped in
on absent tea Jeff Burnage who's enjoying himself somewhere down
in the Cornish Riviera this couple of next week and
you picked up on the line less. It's so that's
(17:04):
come across quite well as well. So that's good stuff. Definitely,
what would you like to do any more of or
any differently with us?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that's a good question. Something I think that would
be really good if we could somehow facilitate it is
if we did a live podcast of us all in
a room or I think in a room would be
good and just sitting down and talking about the club
(17:34):
that we love. I'd love to do something like that.
I'd also love to see another girl close to my
age on the pod as well as a as a
regular member well.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That would be. That would be really nice, But Miles
only knows ones that are younger than them, so we
won't be able to do but I think that would
be good. Now, the potential for all of you sitting
in the room and recording that life is going to
be upon us shortly, and I'm hoping that that starts
(18:09):
in November and it will be on a Saturday evening,
so it'll be after a game at the Den. But
it would require us trip up to Greenwich to Maritime
Studios to do it. But that's okay because you and
Steve can go along and then you can get home
(18:30):
from there, can't you. Absolutely that will be good. And
the Miles has been learning how to operate all the
studio equipment, haven't you, Miles.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, hopefully that was an R.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah what was the earth?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, well, since I started university, it's all took a
bit of a backstep, but I've been hoping to get
back on that. But yeah, there's something that I'm looking
into and hope through you a nice little announcement shortly
about potential new opportunities there.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Good, we'll be doing some stuff there of your own,
but we as a mill no one likes us talking.
We'll be doing a monthly show live at Maritime Studios
and not the two distant future. So there you go
your wishes.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
There better me amazing slightly predicting the future.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It was, wasn't it straight off the back of me pen,
which they do they I'll have to remember that when
you're on the show. Out, Oh full moons and witches? Myles,
Where did the family hang out at the den?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's only really me and my mum and the family
that go to mer Wall I said this in speech
marks regularly. Obviously, I go every game. My mom tries
to get along as often as possible, but if not,
she's always listening in or watching it home. Yeah, if
she's on a night game she can watch it. But yeah,
when we do go, we sit in Blot forty with
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Harvey Brown and family and friends.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
That's nice. You're quite close with Harvey and the Brown family.
We can often find you in their company if they're
in the Trust building or even in Harvey's den care
but is no longer within the Brown hands, but they
retain the name and any Milliken runs a shop there
(20:37):
with with a few other young ladies, and they do
a good job in there, Mars.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, they do. They do a really good job.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'd say, if you're early to the Din on match days,
go in and enjoy what's there, Biffany, you and your
father Steve will locate in a very interesting place, as
as I found out when I was not so recently
but last season, I was on the pitch and you
were in the stands, and you're in the most entertaining block,
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aren't you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh, we are absolutely in the most entertaining block. I
absolutely love where we sit. I never want to leave
our seats. I always want to make sure we get
those seats. So we are in Bloc thirty and we
are in C directly next to the away dugout, so
my dad sits directly next to it, and I sit
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next to him. We were so lucky that those two
tickets came up when we decided to get season tickets
back in twenty fourteen. I think that season and it
is the most entertaining, honestly. I remember when we played
Leicester in the FA Cup. There was somebody behind us
(21:55):
and he's brilliant and he learned Italian to insult Claudio
Yi and I can't remember the manager I can't remember
his name, but he was Russian and then they learned
Russian to insult him in Russian. And it's just it
is amazing where we sit, and you know, all of
the men that sit around me are they're all like
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my dad's funny story. Actually, the first time I decided
to meet Jamie, my husband, we'd met online and I thought, well,
I'm only going to meet him in my safe place,
which is Millwalk, because my dad couldn't go to a game.
I said, you can come watch a game with me.
Because I knew if he was a weirdo, I wanted
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it to end. I had all of these men around
me that know me, that could help me get out
of a bad situation. Luckily we didn't. I didn't need
to rely on that, and you know, we're married. The
rest is history. But yeah, I absolutely love where we sit,
absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And does James you know that that was your intention?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
He does now, he didn't know at the time. We
genuinely met because of Millwell. Actually he's a South End fan,
and you know, funny enough, in his wedding speech he
actually pulled up all my old tweets about South End
(23:23):
fans and how they're all for and all this. So
he decided to tell everyone that we had a mutual
follower who was a Millwill fan. He sent me a
message or slid into my d MS as they say,
I can't convert him to being a mill Will fan. Also,
I don't want to because you know he's South End.
He can stay there.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Well, when you listen to this, Jamie, you can stay
in South End then and in Essex. Okay, goodness, gracious, Miles,
how long you got up Wembley at the UNI?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yep on there till twenty twenty seven? Just as to
think about it, I'll be graduating twenty twenty seven. Hopefully
I'll be graduating with a first class degree. That's the end,
that's your objective.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Good. How are you getting on with the arrangements there?
Because it must be when in advance of a lot
of your UNI pairs in terms of what you've been doing,
aren't it? No?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Not really, to be fair, we've all been quite active
over the summer or the last year. There's a lot
of people there that have already got you know, experience elsewhere. Good.
So I think that's really good as well, because we
can all share our own experiences and what's happened maybe
you know negatives has happened and also positives and yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I think that's really good.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, I remember in there earlier days, we used to
they all thought that they might come and talk to us.
It wasn't for a podcast to be It was for
them to run a podcast with a bunch of mid wilfects.
But unfortunately, I don't think they got what they expected.
(25:09):
And the likes of me Henry Morgan, Jeff We're quite pleasant,
didn't cause them any grief and sort of ask them,
why are you asking us questions about things that happened
thirty four years ago? But they haven't come back to
us because I don't think we're controversial enough for them.
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So Evita, who are you playing in Evita? Bethany, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
The ensemboard this year, right, so you'll see me in
the background doing lots of nice dances and singing all
the songs.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I look forward to that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, it should be a good one. We're really sort
of getting into the swing of it now and sort
of seeing the vision of the director come together. You know,
it's when people say how much theater you think it's
so great that I suppose you can vouch for it.
It's a very, very professionally.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Run I baoroughly enjoyed it good earlier this year, and
I'm gonna enjoy it again next year. But I'm going
to add a nice soft cushion to sit on. Downside.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, those town hall seats aren't the most comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Forward to. So, Miles millwell, this season, what do you
think where we go? We're going up.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I've seen enough. I've seen enough.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We're going up enough. Well the table, you may well?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, at the table, Yeah, that's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Would you add any more any sort of prediction where
we'll finished?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't like to predict where we're going to finish
because I always get horribly wrong. But I would like
to think we're going to make would make a playoff push,
like if.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You are wrong, we won't hold it against you. That's
fair enough, isn't it, Bethany, What about yourself?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I say every year we are going to go to
the Premier League. Right when we were in League one,
I said we're going to the Championship, and it eventually happened.
If I keep saying it, it will happen, you know,
it's a shame that results haven't really gone our way
at the start of the season. But November time is
(27:30):
when we really start to come together and it really
starts to we start to go on a good run.
So I have one hundred percent faith that we're going up.
I refuse to say that we will stay in the Championship.
We will be going to the Premier League. It's what
we need.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And of course, you guys, even if those dreams at
this moment in time do not come to fruition, You've
got so many years in front of you to see it.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Actually, it has to happen at least one point. Even
if we go straight back down, we can say that
we have done it. I think that our fans often forget,
you know, John Berylson or James Berylson. You know, we've
done very well for a while now, you know under
(28:22):
Gary Rowitt, I know there's a lot of people that
don't like him, and that's fine. I really liked Gary Rowitt.
I love Neil Harris. He's my favorite. I will always
say that. But we were chasing playoff places season after season.
You can't say that's bad.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, it's good to see. Good to see it's good
to see, and my finger is across that Neil can
sort of reproduce that film this year and beyond. He
certainly is playing a different game. He's the one that
he's played when he was with us, and he came
under fire inappropriately. Let's hope that that we can be
(29:02):
a bit more closer to that desire that you both
want and get to the top life.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's what we need and it's what we deserve as
young me Will I know I'm nearly thirty, but I'm
still saying that I'm young. We deserve it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well. You are, you are, you haven't got to middle
age yet. That's the that the next heard of Bethany.
I suppose the wonderful thing about both of you is
that you are both inspiring in what you do and
majorly younger than the rest of the team. But you
(29:41):
don't let that sort of go against you. You do
a great job. And if there's anybody else out there,
I would like to join in with Bethany and Miles
and the big part of the team. We're always there
to listen, and we thoroughly enjoy you joining us. No
one likes us talking well. Thanks Bethany, Thanks Miles. It's
(30:05):
been a pleasure speaking to you both.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
This has been great.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, thank you very much, Amy, it's been it's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Always good fun. Take care, keep it safe on the
streets out there, and we'll be back with our mer
Will fan show on Friday evenings and another monthly show
in the not too distant future in November. Bye for now.
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