March 8, 2024 • 39 mins
Here it is, my latest conversation with singer David Reece Official, (Accept, Bangalore Choir, IRON ALLIES, Bonfire) who just dropped a new solo album, titled "Baptized By Fire". David discusses the making of the new album, the songwriting process, going in a heavier musical direction, upcoming U.S. shows and more stuff!
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More David Reece: http://davidreeceofficial.info
Video of this conversation is available here: https://youtu.be/xmWUexM7teA?si=kHv7tWuVMIRva_t-
Music featured on this episode (intro) by Matthew Johnston
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Nobodies are somebodies. Hey's chadvice andyou're about to listen to my latest conversation
with David Reese, former singer ofAccept, currently with Bengalo or Choir with
the band Iron Allies, featuring anotherguy from Accept, Herman Frank, and
as well his own solo projects,which he's got another one that he's just
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released now, Baptized by Fire.Go check it out, Go pick it
up. Go get Eat the Heatby Accept, Go get Circle of Silence,
the two records he did in thenineties. Go get the debut Bangalo
or Choir album on Target, andgo get Baptized by Fire, and go
get Baptized by David Reese. It'sme chadvice. I'm still on vacation in
the Atlantic Provinces of Canada in NewBrunswick, so enjoy this conversation while I'm
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on vay. Kay shun. That'sv a c acation chadvice out s up,
alex So, David Race, I'mtalking to you again. How's that
going? Doing? Great banjo ofMetallia. I don't speak French, just
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kidding. Spaghetti spaghettios. You've beenin Italy for a long time, man,
are you ever coming back to theStates. I know you love it
there. I got to ask youthat you ever coming back besides for a
tour. I mean, you're gonnacome back and live. No, my
wife won't let me. I've beentrying to coax her into moving back to
Montana and buying a small farm andgetting the away from civilization, but she
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refused. She's terrified of snakes.She thinks that battlesnakes are like everywhere,
a second invasion. I made themistake of pointing out a snake tour on
the ranch one day, and shelost her mind. So big mistake,
big mistake. It's a futile attempt. Yeah, yeah, it's at least
she tried. How long have youbeen there in Italy? Now? Wow?
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The ten year of December this year. Wow, that's amazing. What
I find What I find amazing isthat, well, not only that you're
still still able to get out anddo tours over there. Europe is a
big place to play, but you'reworking like never before. It seems like
you're working now in the years,in the last twenty years that you've ever
worked in the last since you startedyour career, like you're releasing records between
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bangal require you know Iron Allies,the solo records. Man, I told
you every time you release the record, we're going to talk, and here
we are again. We just talkedabout Bangalore and here we are with a
new solo rese record. I meanit's crazy. Well, actually a lot
of that stuff was during COVID thatI did, so it seems like I'm
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doing like a record every six months. But yeah, they schedule it whenever
they find appropriate, you know,without really telling me. So I think
they They've actually released two records Idid on the same day, two different
record companies. Wow. And I'veguessed on a bunch of stuff with friends,
like a band called Goot some Emotionfriends. I did you know the
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Wicked Sensation record three or four yearsago. It gets pretty cluttered, but
I'm really not. I mean Ihad to survive. I had to eat,
man, I mean we got Icouldn't even leave the house for like
two years. Yeah, I knowit was bad in Italy. I remember
that it was super bad. Itwas one of the worst places to get
hit. You were, you wereStockley, you couldn't you were lockdown,
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you couldn't get away. If youdid you might notice that broke out,
They said thirty minutes from my house. I was scheduled for a session the
next day and I was called likeat seven in the morning. He said
it was like, I think abomb happened or something. The whole town
ship down. I'm like, whatare you talking about? And then I
turned on the news and it actuallystarted in that village. Some guy had
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come back from China and had ameeting with like twenty of his staff and
everybody just got really sick in thattown, like literally thirty minutes from my
house. Yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah, I can't believe that.
But that did that affect you writingwise? I mean, that's was going
all over the world, right,people were talking about so much. Did
that creep into what you wanted tosay? Like as far as even if
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you want to get away from it, everyone wanted to talk about it.
Did you try to get away fromthat or did you lean into it?
I lean into it because that's fromthe beginning, you know, I was
told by I mean I had arecord coming out called The Company of Souls
like that week, Yeah, andI had I think it was I want
to say, twenty eight shells.Maybe thirty eight, I don't know,
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And I mean I from the seventhof March or twenty twenty. The release
date was the thirteenth. I thinkthe seventh was when it was announced up
COVID. Yeah, and I thinkfive days afterwards, I was getting five
cancelations minimum per day. Yeah,so it definitely had an effect. I
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mean I didn't know if it wasin in the world or what was going
on. Then they forced me tobe when they kind of open it up.
You couldn't play unless you're vaccinated.Yeah, so or had the booster
or something I can't remember it orsomething, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got really upset about that.And then I went to Denmark and took
a day job roofing and I didthere they do the nasal swab. Yeah,
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and I coming home to Italy,I went to you know, check
in, and they said, oh, we don't accept nasal swabs in London
because I had to layover and Heathrowand I said, what are you talking
about? And then they pointed downthe home. They said, for three
hundred pounds you can get a testand then you can get on the plane.
I flipped out. I said,I'm negative let me on that friggin
plane. And yeah, I wrotea lot about that whole dark period.
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And come to find out, afterI'd had the shots and then the booster,
we got definitely sick the whole familyin like January the following year.
It didn't matter. Yeah, we'resupposed to be free of it. And
then we still got it. Andit was like called omicron or something.
Yeah, that was it. Yeah, and people said that, People said
that if you got that shot,well it didn't affect you as bad.
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You could have died from it ifyou never got the shot. But I
mean if you still got it anyway, I mean, ye, are they
worse or better? People who passedaway had underlying issues too, Like it's
hard to say, well, Igot stick from it. I was hospitalized
three months after that I had theomicron. I was hospitalized for twelve days,
and my doctor said it was adirect attribute because of the vaccine.
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They were seeing the same symptoms allover Italy. I directly asked him,
is this because of the vaccine.He said, yes, I can't lie.
We're finding scientific data that it's affectingpeople. So that knocked me on
my ass. So yeah, ofcourse I mean, I mean it,
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it affected me greatly and I tothis day I refuse. I will never
do that again. I mean metoo, I hear you. I'm not
going to do it. I meanit's it was I think it was a
dry run and it worked and lookwhat happened. I mean over here,
venues are still really suffering because ofit, in America especially. I mean
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I'm booking the tour starting March first. I mean, so many venues are
like, man, we just don'thave that kind of money. I mean,
it's nobody's going out and you know, it's crazy. Yeah, I
know, I'm kind of almost surprised. I'm glad you're coming back over,
but I'm almost surprised you're able tomake that happen. Yeah. I mean
my tour manager is, you know, greatly responsible for a lot of that.
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Believes in me. Robert Anderson.You two just hooked up today.
I understand timing perfect time literally afinances be where I talked to you in
person. Yeah, yeah, Imean he's great. I've known since I
was seventeen. Wow. We kickoff in Minneapolis, and are you there?
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I lost you? Do we loseinternet? David's Green froze up and
I can't are you there? Areyou there? It froze up completely?
Can you hear me? Yeah?I got you. Now Here we go.
It doesn't like what we're talking about. We can't talk about COVID.
Someone's shutting this. Yeah that's funny, interesting, interesting, Yeah, here
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we go, Here we go.We're just talking about music. Man.
Everyone just relaxed, calm down,it's all yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can't be honest. We can'tbe honest, but we can talk about
music. No smiling, no laughing, no talking. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, are you I'mgoing to assume that you're using American musicians.
You have people already over in theStates that are going to be there
for the tour, right, that'sgoing to make things cheaper, obviously.
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Absolutely. I got a killer band, Billy Schlump on guitar, Logan Lowbrick
on drums, and we had adifferent basis, but he had some health
concerns with his knees. So I'vegot another young kid named Joey and I
can't even pronounce his last name.But first show is Route forty seven in
Fridley, Minnesota, and from whatI understand, it's nearly sold out.
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That's good. So and then thenext night is Turtle Lake, Wisconsin at
the Casino. And then I'm I'mI'm floundering, you know, with commitments
on dates with Chicago and some otherareas. So, yeah, I was
gonna say, the only ones Isaw was Wisconsin and Minnesota. I didn't
know if there was any more afterthat. I didn't see any you said
Chicago, Now I had, Ihad twelve confirmed. But like we talked
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about it, their economic status andthemself. A lot of bands are being
canceled out because of of course ticketsales, lack of interest of just going
out. And yeah, there's alot of Yeah, there's a lot of
things on the road. There's alot of people. There's a lot of
crews that aren't available buses, vandslike I mean, venues that there's pees,
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there's just people not available to dothe work to behind the scenes.
People forget about that. You need, you know, people to get from
place to place, to haul theequipment to move that around. If roadies
that people aren't available for that,what are you going to do? It
doesn't matter. What happened was COVIDcreated a bottleneck. You know, you
had all the cancellations, and thenyou every they opened the back to the
free world, and then everybody hasto honor their commitments and their advances that
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they had from the promoters. SoI mean, like in Germany there was
one city I know for as afact, a few months ago, WASP
and Schenka were in the same littletown. I mean half the people intended
to show up for each group showedup. I mean they were booked on
the same night, literally within spittingdistance of each other. I mean that
that's insane. Yeah, that's crazy. Two good shows too. How can
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you pick between the two? Amazing? They were torn watch half half Blackie
half Michael. I mean, whatare we going to do? Kind of
stuck? Yeah, exactly, juststay home, you know, yeah,
exactly. Before we move on tothe new record, of course, one
thing about the previous records that wetouched upon, the Ka coffee and everything.
Do you find those records kind ofgot lost because of what happened?
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Like you, I mean, youalways create things, But do you find
that they didn't get they didn't geta fair shake because of everything that went
down, and they kind of gotlost in the shuffle. How do you
feel about that I hate it.Cacophony outsold Blacklist Utopia. I mean that
record seemed to be a fan favoriteover the number one right after, And
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while I love both records, Ihave to kind of admit Cacophony was a
better album. So that kind ofleads into in a way. I mean
I kind of got a little moreprogressive with Blacklist. I mean, there's
great songs on it, but yeah, it's really very consistent. Yeah,
people walk up and say, Igot both, but I prefer Cacomphany,
and it's really weird, you know, you don't really know what the fans
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are going to respond like. Sotrue, I love them both, but
I have to say, from whatI've been told and people holding up the
record in the merse booth or wantingme to autograph it, I see more
Cacophony, but it definitely put abit of a downward breeze on being.
You know, when you make arecord, anybody can make one in their
bathroom right now. So absolutely youhave to play live, you know.
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I mean, unless you're an Aplus act or B plus actor, you're
not getting those those opportunities, youknow, to where it's reasonable just to
get out of the housing and payyou guys, because you know, remember
in the nineties, studios cost aboutthe same as they do now. Musicians,
from what I know, pretty muchcharge what they did then. And
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it's hard to get a bunch ofgreat guys to go out for nothing and
spend four days in a van forfree to play in front of crowds.
I mean, it's just not right. I don't I don't ask that of
my people. I'm the last guyto get paid. That's how I keep
that, Yeah, exactly. That'show you keep good guys working with you,
though, because they know, hey, they're going to be well taken
care of release by you. Theymay not have a lot to go around,
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but what they do get, they'regoing to get it. They're not
going to be screwed over. They'renot. It's not David Reese first,
you know, right well, Ialways make it the new band. I
have new players, Italian guys thatliterally live thirty minutes from me here,
and it was just by a strokeof the stars lining up that I ran
into them. The one and onlything that I'll say, and maybe I'm
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not I should be more of adick that, like a lot of people
are, But I say one thing, two things. Don't ever lie to
me, and don't call me athief if you ever say that or suspect
me of that. Question me andasked me, Hey, you said this,
where's this? That's fine, Butif you say those two things,
you're done. You're out. Mycamp is empty. There's an open slot.
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I mean, I'm booking flights rightnow for my Scandinavian tour in April.
It takes hours. I mean I'mlooking for We fly to Copenhagen,
then we fly home from Sweden.It's an endeavor with all the equipment as
you mentioned before, and lining up, opening acts, back lines, it's
not an easy task. And I'mdoing all that with my name and my
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head on the chopping box. Butat the end of the day, you
guarantee them a fee for their performance, their rooms. You're dealing with promoters,
hotels, you're dealing it's an allday excursion. So if anybody ever
questions my integrity, I don't.I don't go well, hey, man,
I know you're upset. I justsay that's it. You're offended me,
get out of my face, goaway. Yeah, don't go right
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in your mouth if you got aproblem otherwise. Yeah, people get upset.
I get it. I yell atmy wife about things that I even
know what I'm talking about, andshe does me. I mean, I'm
like, I've seen my neighbors fightingwith my son the other day over parking.
I mean in front of the house. I mean, it happens,
But don't ever question. I mean, I'm not perfect, but I'm not
I've done done with that. I'mdone with being questioned. You know of
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my good intention. I say,this is what I pay. Will you
accept it? Yes? I acceptit. Here's your money. I paid
before each show, which is reallynice. You hand a guy his fee
for the performance. It kind ofplays a lot better than he would if
to wait till the end of theweek. You know what I mean,
I just got paid. Let's gohave fun. You know. Yeah,
he might hit those cords, right, yeah. Yeah, it's psychological.
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It's a beautiful thing. So forme, I come home and go through
all the taxes and the money,and I'm like, well, you know,
if it wasn't for the merch onthat four day ron, I would
be really hurting. You know.It sounds like you do everything in the
house like you don't really have.I know you have people working in your
camp for you, for for littlethings, but it sounds like for the
most part you're doing it all inthe house, your control of everything as
far as you know. Oh yeah, and I don't. I don't know
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Julian promoting. I mean, yeah, I mean I stand that off with
somebody, but I'm sick of it. Yeah, but at least I know
it directly. You know what's happening. You know what's happening in your house.
You know how it's going. Youdon't have someone saying, yeah,
David, we got this, sodon't worry, I book this, we
got this. The money's coming here, we don't you know, you know
where it's coming and going. Ifthere's a funck up, well to you,
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I get copy that every every agreement, and you know, I do
get pushback on it. What doyou want that for? It's a business,
I mean, and I'm you don'tdo a contract building your house without
a contract, right you know,Yeah, well you certainly can't for you.
Yeah, and then you end upgetting fucked and then you're like,
well what happened? Well, Ididn't do the business, which I've made
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that mistake I don't even want tokind of count how many times. So
that's I'm harsh that way. ButI'm always straightforward. And I'm really lucky
because a lot of the promoters,I mean a lot of times they'll offer
to pay me in advance, likenow, and I'm like, no,
man's it's April or whatever. We'lldeal with it like the middle of March,
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you know. So I maintained agood relationship with the people I work
with, and that's important to me. I know a lot of guys that
don't. And those certain promoters callme and go, man, can you
call so? And someone get inthe answer the phone. And I'm not
getting involved. I warned you before, Yeah exactly. I mean, you
don't need anyone else's troubles and you'renot going to put your name on the
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line for that. It's been toolong. You've been how many years in
this business? Won two years?I mean, you don't need any more.
Couple, I watched I watched RealQuick. I watched an interview with
Robert Redford the other day and andand they asked for his advice about acting.
I mean, Robert Redford is superstar, right, yeah, and he's
kind of he's up there now,and I didn't know he was still alive,
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to be honest with you, Yeah, I mean, I mean he
still looks rather recently the gift fromGod. Right, he said, there's
two things about entertainment. One wastreacherous and basically the other one was evil.
So if you're prepared, you knowyour your skin has to be extra
thick. I mean, because hecame from nothing and basically got lucky because
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of his good looks. Because heoriginally wanted to be a pro baseball player.
I didn't know which he would havemade a poster card for a card,
right, He had all the booksand everything, but he walked into
acting in an accident, you know, but flounded around for years not knowing
what to do until he did,like a play with Paul Newman. Yeah,
and the second movie was Butch Cassidy, right, yeah, so I
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kind of went from there. Yeah, yeah, boom, it was off
to the races. That's how itworks. But if you know it's a
treacherous business, it's there are nofriends in the music business. I mean,
there's guys that you that you workwith, that you deeply care for
and love. As the word brothers. Business that people forget, especially people
who aren't in it. Yeah,it's a business. Why don't you go
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Why can't you play with this guy? Why don't you just work things out
with this guy? Why aren't youa wolf hanging out every day? It's
a it's a business almost for it. It's a business. There's the reason
why people don't tour at this stageof the game. They don't work with
people they don't want to work with. You go back to your job you
were at and work with the samepeople you were with before. No,
it's the same thing. It's acompany. It's hard to it's hard to
see it that way because it's music. There's still a business behind. Otherwise
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we wouldn't have it, and peopleforget what people it's like you go to
an office, right. I havea friend who just told me the other
day. She said, I'm fiftysix. I think she said she could.
I'm taking an early retirement. Ican't set it my desk in the
computer anymore. I can't do it. I don't like the people, they
don't like me. I've been herethirty years. I can't do this anymore.
I'm so unhappy. I want todie happy now when you're in a
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band, You're you're around each otherconsiderable amount of time, more in your
own family, sometimes more than yourwife. Yeah, kids, and you're
at your family, main family,right, four different marriages on one bus,
yeah, exactly. Yeah. Andfor lunatics that are as crazy as
me, I mean, and youall got a bad day. I mean,
it can be pretty weird. Andthat's why you see a lot of
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these people in bands, you know, doing their selfies walking through cities,
just going for a walk. Igot to await from these people. Separate
dressing rooms if you can afford it, separate places. I mean, look
at the bigger bands. Look,yeah, they're all in separate buses,
separate places. Look at Aerosmith,look a Moley cue. You think they're
all hanging out backstage, hugging eachother and doing the same doing cigarettes,
no money talks. It's not.There's no love lost between those guys and
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the only reason they're doing it.Yeah, maybe there are respectful of each
other, but they don't. Theycan't stand each other, ye is.
Yeah, a big difference between Bro, you're getting offered fifty grand for an
hour and a half a day toplay, you're going to get on that
bus or that flight and go dothat gig. I don't have to talk
to you before or after, youknow, seeing the gig, see on
stage. You know, that's adifference in in my level. You know,
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No, I know that's all thesame. That's the reason why you
don't get back with certain people too, because it's just the money's not there.
If the money was there, itmight be a different story. But
if it's not worth your time andenergy and it's not worth the money you
got, your happiness comes first.Well, Harman and I talked about it.
What if they didn't accept fest andlike Shanker did, And I said,
I do it with you because absolutelyI said, let's get in a
renth of car and fall of us. Yeah, I said, we agree
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with let's do it. But youknow, certain powers that be would never
even consider that. And I wouldbe open arms to be able to sing
four or five or so of mysongs from that era. But certain people
don't want to even be reminded thatthey did that. And so it would
be a great seller to bring thewhole history of people that played it that
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band for the last fifty years.It's a great idea because there are rumors
going around it may happen, butno phone calls here. I almost think
that it could happen without certain otherpeople, because you have pretty much,
you're in good contact with pretty mucheveryone else part of that, I would
assume. Yeah, I mean I'mclosest too of all. Yeah, which
is surprising. Some people might findthat surprise, and I don't after we
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talk. But I mean there's yeah, even Peter, like, I'm pretty
sure almost anybody can get up thereat this point except for one sure,
and then look at I mean,let's let's just go there. I mean,
Udo is selling out, and Peter'sback in the band. I mean
it speaks volumes of his importance ofthose being part of that, and they're
doing the basically an except set andthey're selling out everywhere. I'm getting a
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surprise, no surprise, and iswhat it is. So of course,
the most important thing is you.We always talk about you. You're the
main star of this conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, modest too.
Baptized by Fire, which is aboutto be released about a month from now
or less March, the first itcame to me out of nowhere, not
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really, but it almost sort ofdid, because the last time we spoke,
which wasn't that long ago. Imean, on the record, we
were talking new Bangalore Choir and allof a sudden, out of nowhere,
here comes another Reese solo record.It's Baptized by Fire. Tell me about
how it started and why now andwhat inspired you again. The Bangalore thing
was a concoction of just us beingasked to do festivals last year and some
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other stuff. And I got reallylucky because I needed a studio because the
COVID thing kind of stopped me fromgoing that thirty minute drive and scheduling.
You know, it's more night sessions. Then I heard about Ricardo de Morosi
in my town. He at Senza, So I went over to meet with
him one day, and he wasa young guy, and I'm like,
okay, you know, you don'treally know each each other. And I've
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got these demos for some other bandsthey won't meet. They're paying me to
sing on. So I said,let's just throw it up and see what
happened. A couple of days.Man, not that thrilled, blah blah
blah, but we grew to knoweach other, and then he brought in
Naylo Samin Ellie who's now actually playingdrums and Iron Allies Francesco had to leave.
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I brought in Naylo because I've beenworking with him. I said,
this kid's got it. He actuallyplayed on some of the Iron Allies demos,
and those guys go, who's thatguy? You know, that's the
guy that I work with here,He's good. And then lo and behold,
I find out he's got this beastof a guitarist brother named Nicolo.
So Ricardo and I just kind ofsat down thinking, let's just keep writing
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songs, because we wrote a lotof the New Bangal for ourself together and
blah blah blah. I was goingto ask you about the same guys that
were in Bengal required doing writing withyou. They're kind of the same people,
almost right, yeah, Yeah,And Richardo produced it and we've grown
together as a kind of a productionteam. I give him more credit than
myself because I'm a nerd for it, but I don't really don't know how
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it works. But he started bringingto me this youthful thing, and weirdly,
at the same time, my wifewas going through a Chris Cornell phase
nice and I started crank an audioslave and sell Garden again in my house,
which when it came out, Iwas blown away, and I'm like,
oh my god, this guy's agod. You know. So then
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you meet up with guys that area few years younger than you that you
know, kind of came out ofthat, and then they're really into the
metal metal thing. New metal,Yeah, I mean new metal, Like,
are you talking about new metal fromtwo thousand, like Corn the Biscuit
or something like just newor a littlebit of that. I mean, they're
they're huge fans of Korn, They'rehuge fans of Nirvana, They're huge fans
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of everything that I wanted to hate, but I like nineties early two thousands.
Yeah, exactly, that's okay,Just so I know what area you're
talking about. Yeah, I mean, and they listen to that step in
the car and I'm like, what'she saying? Who is that? And
they're going, that's so and sofrom or you know, I've heard like
that it's not my cattle to thecapitation, Yeah, you know, and
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you're going and they're like this,I mean, they're there heading the game.
I'm like, this sucks. Andthen after a couple of times ago,
that's a pretty cool riff? Whatis that? That's so? And
then they got they love underground sometal that nobody gets a chance to hear.
So that influenced them. But collectively, I really think this album is
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the best I've done solo. Now, everybody, I'm gonna just because I
can tell you this right to yourface. Everybody says that when they first
promote a new record. Absolutely whatI'm not? What's the road? David
is different? What's different? I'mI don't know. It's just like I,
like I said, either there wasdifferent music being thrown around my house,
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even food fighters. Okay, Imean I love David Grohl. I
respect him beyond measure. I mean, the guy is he just pounds it
out. I mean, I don'tknow how he can shut like that as
loud as he does, but Iknow, yeah, I mean then I
then I started thinking, you know, I wonder who was really part of
the songwrinning team with Kurt Cobain.You can really hear it or died it
rub off from him from Kurt?I don't know. But what's different about
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it is it's a fresh sound.It's young guys that have brought that new
stuff that kind of skip my generationbecause you know, I grew up on
White Snake and Bad Company in Zeppelin, and that's White Snake pre here I
go again. That's like seventy eight, seventy nine early, Yes, White
Snake we're talking was trying to bePaul Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, when
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he had the guys from Purple inthe band and John Lord then yeah,
which is great. There's some greatrecords that a people don't know ready and
willing, you know, I meanthose are coming at it. Yeah,
even Slider up until that point whenJohn Sykes joined them at the start of
Good Yeah, before he lost hisvoice. Yeah, sadly, yeah,
and he came back. You know, I don't want to say it's my
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best record, bad choice or words. Uh, it's it's it's something that
I'm very happy with. I wasgoing to say something. I had this
great speech plan, but I totallyforgot. It probably means nothing. That's
why I forgot. I'm calling youout on you on your best record.
That was my fault. Well that'scool. I like it. It's a
challenge. But you know what pushedforward and whatever come? Should I write
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that, I say, yeah,that represents me. I'm going to release
it, and you know what,when Enemy is Me came out the video,
which I just saw it just it'sslammed. Dude. Look at how
many views happened. I mean Isaw the comments, the views. I
was like, holy, and thatgot released? What as the time recorded?
What? Two days ago? Aday ago? I was released February
first, Yeah, yeah, likethree o'clock in the afternoon. Crazy.
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Normally they do Friday, but Copertodid it on Thursday. I thought,
you know what if I get acouple thousand views, you know by Sunday,
I'm tickled to death. I'll lookat it. I mean it's been
and the reviews have been fucking great, man. I mean I'm like,
wow, they go, RECEI reallypushing it on this one. I go,
oh yeah, and that's that's whatI wanted to do. I'm angry,
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I'm happy, all the emotions areon it. And you know,
these young guys, dude, whenwe go to rehearsal, I don't know
if I told you this before.When we practice for a gig, I'll
go there and they're already there andI go, what's going on? They
go, We've been rehearsing for acouple of hours to set, I'm like,
really ready to go, yeah,and then I sing ninety minutes and
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then my voice is shot. SoI'm like, let's go get a pizza
guys and hang out, and theygo, no, we want to run
the set a few more times.I'll see you tomorrow. And I'm like,
wow, you know they're really intoit that I needed that kickstart,
I mean, and working with guysthat have done it for so long,
it's kind of like, do wereally have to just let's just do a
laft gym in the dressing room beforewe go on, and you know,
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live you can feel that. Butthese guys, I mean, they analyze
the songs and tell me, Dave, you're not singing that right. It
goes like this, Oh, especiallythe drummer, he pushes me really hard.
That's good, you need it.And it doesn't sound like I've told
you this a million times before,and not just because you're here in front
of me, but your voice overthe years, it just seems as strong
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as ever. And I want toask you about that too, because it's
easy for people like me to say, oh, David, your voice is
good. I love your voice.It sounds great. I mean I'm a
big fan, which is all true. But when you hear things like that,
do you A do you believe it? And B how does that make
you feel? When you hear that, like really feel do you feel self
conscious about that? Do you feellike it's warranted? I don't want to
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believe it for you know, like, hey man, I really got it.
How does it make me feel?I just feel like lucky me because
I know a lot of guys thator my age that can't do half of
bit anymore, and they're they're outthere trying to show everybody they can and
it's really bad or they're putting iton tape. Yeah, and I'm not.
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I mean, my band is live. I mean, we use a
couple backing harmony tracks, but that'sit because some of that ship's in space,
you know the notes. But Ijust feel lucky. I mean,
I I took care of my voice. I took a lot of voiceless.
As a matter of fact, I'min language school now and I'm back in
vocal school. Wow. I'm doingthree days of voice classes a week,
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and I do two days of languageschool a week. I do voice in
the morning for two hours every dayand then I do three classes, So
you're putting the work in. You'redoing what needs to be done to keep
your voice in shape because you careabout the performans you deliver, both on
records and obviously live. That's becauseI notice, I mean, I mean,
I'll be honest. You notice theolder you get that those two little
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strings, the vocal cords, theythey're not They're a muscle, and it's
like a soccer player or an athlete. There's you notice little nuances that change
and you have to learn how tosing around with them to get there.
I mean, I don't have thatget there like I did on Eat the
Heat or Bangalore the first album.I don't have that anymore, but I
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can get there in a way whereit's acceptable. But I don't do it
as often because you don't sing thoseas all. Well. I guess you
would, because there are quote unquotehits that people would know from you.
But do you find yourself trying tohit those like give me an example,
Let's say I don't know Bengal orlike Angel and Block or if it's accept
ecstasy, I don't know what ahard one. Ecstasy is? Hard?
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Is hard that you give me justinthat's great that part. Yeah, yeah,
but uh, freight train rolling offBengalore on target, that's a bitch
to sing. I don't care.I'll put you up against anybody sing that
song four nights in a row.It's a ball breaker. And I don't
know why the hell I wrote itin that high of a key, because
probably in those days I could singin a lot easier. But you know,
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you you got to it's up heresinging at ninety nine percent in your
head, yeah, you know,and then you got to deal with colds
and no sleep. And that's onething I'm a staunch support of rest,
no alcohol, don't smell. Ofcourse I'm chewing on a cigar, but
I never liked it. I justlove to chase the team. But well,
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you mentioned before we talked a fewone hundred episodes ago, you talked
about you quit drinking too. Atthat point was a while ago, a
couple of years ago. I thinkit was during or pre COVID, right,
you quit drinking. I quit itwas five years of sobriety last September.
Yeah, so it's been a while. I think it's one of the
first things we talked about. Thefirst time we chatted. I was not
so. I wouldn't say surprised,but I was. I was, you
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know, surprised to hear that yourealized that was an issue and you cut
down. It helped your voice atthe time, is what you told me.
I think so. I think itgave me a few extra years now.
I don't know. I mean,my voice teacher says, sounds pretty
good. We got to work tothis range here, this middle needs a
little strengthening, and I'm to goget checked out in the summer, just
you know, in the normal vocalcheck up, look down the throat,
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through the nose and see if there'sany follo ups. I mean, you
know, you'd be amazing. Imean, Freddie Mercury had notes and he
did the last live. I meanhe had a couple of calensies on his
vogal. But listen to him youkind of learn how to sing with it.
Yeah, I mean, but thisis rock and roll stuff. I
mean, it's it's like listen toa drill sergeant in the Marines, and
every one of them's got a voicelike Froggy. It's got They're shouting all
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day. Oh my god, justripping the cords apart. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but if you do itright and you and you you know,
you're not drinking while you're on stage, you getting all bloated and stupid
and doing stupid shit and then hurtingyour voice, and you're not in the
van talking for two or three hours, because the worst part about a singer
is to come down time from theadrenaline. That's weird because you go,
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you gear up all day, dosound check, and then you set around
in a dressing room like an idiot, or go some restaurant, and then
you go back to the Then youthe anxiety of you know, how many
people are here. You start hearingthe noise in the room. And then
you go do the gig and youget all jack packed up and then you
go back into the dress room yousweat down. Then you go to merch
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and talk for a couple hours,you know, selling your product. Yeah
yeah, you get in the van. Yeah, and you're in the van
and everybody's the guys that do drinkof you know kind of, so you
get involved and you're all chatting itup and then you go The hardest thing
to do is shut up, yeah, because you're pumpedy, or you walk
out of the venue and a guyin a van drives you right to a
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hotel and said, here's your room, good night, and you're standing there
going, your ears are ring going. It's like I just got into a
fistfight with Mike Tyson and I gotto come down and go to sleep because
I got to get up at fivepoint thirty and be in a lobby called
at seven thirty after breakfast and beingin the van it's seven forty five and
drive eight hours to the next city. It's hard, man. Yeah,
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I can imagine. I'm just lookingat a time five minutes. It's going
to come me off in five minutes. I want to mention. I want
to mention the artwork on the albumas well. Uh it's Newton Artworks,
Richie Newton. I mean he dida great job. I mean I can't
say enough about him. He reallyreally did well with that. I want
to give him a plug. Yeah, sure we can. We can keep
talking. When it runs out,I'll wait for it to restart again if
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you want to come back, ifyou got time, you want to do
that, so you give you enoughtime to feel like you said everything,
or do you have to go?I think I said everything. I mean
check out the video. Enemy isme and uh once again, Chad,
do that plug again just so weget a good copy of the thing.
Is I kind of about the coverwork? Yeah, the big cheap He's
super he's super aggressive, Like yeah, I'm going to do like an AI
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thing with him, like going towar or something, just massacring people.
I don't know, but I kindof did it, like what they did
with Eddie. I mean they keepevolving. Uh. That was Richie Newton
from Newton Artworks. I mean Igot to give him a plug. He's
great and you can reach him onFacebook. Very professional, you know,
time, willing to listen to ideasand actually add greater ideas than I had.
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Like you said, Dave, you'redoing everything or in the driver's seat.
Yeah, but you know, Ilike it when somebody feeds back.
You know, you know you canhand it off to certain people. You
know it's going to get the resultsthat you want. Yeah, before I
let you go, Yeah, yeah, exactly, before I let you go.
With the time I have, Iwant to talk to talk a bit
about the live shows coming up.So in the live set, without giving
too much away, will you beplaying some of this record as well as
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accept as well as Bengal required.Do you think is there anything you're going
to leave out of that because youjust think you won't be able to pull
it off or you just don't wantto try it againymore like what would you
leave office set? At this point, You're like, we're going to trim
out some of the Bangalore stuff andmaybe one or two of Eat the Heat.
But we're doing Ecstasy, We're doingGeneration Clash, We're going to showcase
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a lot of the new album.We've done some classic covers that I do
my kind of my thing on itover really will. Now we're not doing
that. We're doing Ain't Eleve inthe Heart of the City, but I
do it on David Reesway. Uhyou know, you know I say a
love hurts right because you did thatand you and you killed I don't know
we were talking about your voice,but what you did there. I told
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you this last time the heights yougot to that man, It's insane.
I mean that was that was likewhat that came out July last year.
I mean I literally did that songin one take. I throw it up
and and Rick Card looked at meand going Jesus Christ come in here and
listen to that. I go,dude, listen to it, and I
went, hey, I nailed it. And that's Stan McCaffrey. I mean,
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that guy's voice was ridiculous. That'slike Brian Johnson on steroids. You
know, yeah, absolutely, orOxel Rose who goes a big maybe yeah,
but you know, I mean,I would like to throw that song
in this say. It kind ofdepends on the night. I mean,
we got just a few dates inthe States and then I come back and
do uh a pretty good run inScandinavia, and we'll feel out what works
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in the rehearsals because they're long rehearsalsin America. But definitely I want to
showcase that there's another one that Ithere'll be another video coming out, I
think the first of March. It'scalled We've Lost the Fight from the new
album. And then during the tour, we're doing some shows that Blaze Bailey
and Scandinavia, and we're going tofilm the audience of a song Tomorrow Don't
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Matter Today, which is the lasttrack on the record that Nicolo wrote the
music to. It's fabulous and hedoes great video work as well. But
we're going to film the crowd becauseit's like a sold out show with Blaze,
So we want that interaction just forthe media, for the bookers and
everybody to see that, Hey,this isn't just some twenty person nightclub act,
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you know what I mean? Yeah? Absolutely, you're a busy man,
my friend. Go to David Reese'sofficial on Facebook. That's everything you
got going on. There's always posts. It's a busy page everything David Reese.
You can check it out. Getyour fill of that kind good enough,
And the next time you release therecord again, maybe I'll be better
prepared and we'll do this again.You threaten me every time we do this,
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we're gonna talk again. So we'regonna gonna make it. I appreciate
you have times going short, bro, but I'll get you a copy.
It's been great talking man, talkto you to take care you in person.
Yeah, make it happen. Comeover to the States again, stay
longer. I'm gonna get my assover there. Take care of men anytime
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by David. You've been listening tothe Nobody's or Somebody's podcast with Me Chadvice,
and this podcast has been voted thenumber one podcast by people that don't vote,
Nobodies are somebodies. Hey's chadvice andyou're about to listen to my latest conversation
with David Reese, former singer ofAccept, currently with Bengalo or Choir with
the band Iron Allies, featuring anotherguy from Accept, Herman Frank, and
as well his own solo projects,which he's got another one that he's just
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released now, Baptized by Fire.Go check it out, Go pick it
up. Go get Eat the Heatby Accept, Go get Circle of Silence,
the two records he did in thenineties. Go get the debut Bangalo
or Choir album on Target, andgo get Baptized by Fire, and go
get Baptized by David Reese. It'sme chadvice. I'm still on vacation in
the Atlantic Provinces of Canada in NewBrunswick, so enjoy this conversation while I'm
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on vay. Kay shun. That'sv a c acation chadvice out s up,
alex So, David Race, I'mtalking to you again. How's that
going? Doing? Great banjo ofMetallia. I don't speak French, just
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kidding. Spaghetti spaghettios. You've beenin Italy for a long time, man,
are you ever coming back to theStates. I know you love it
there. I got to ask youthat you ever coming back besides for a
tour. I mean, you're gonnacome back and live. No, my
wife won't let me. I've beentrying to coax her into moving back to
Montana and buying a small farm andgetting the away from civilization, but she
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refused. She's terrified of snakes.She thinks that battlesnakes are like everywhere,
a second invasion. I made themistake of pointing out a snake tour on
the ranch one day, and shelost her mind. So big mistake,
big mistake. It's a futile attempt. Yeah, yeah, it's at least
she tried. How long have youbeen there in Italy? Now? Wow?
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The ten year of December this year. Wow, that's amazing. What
I find What I find amazing isthat, well, not only that you're
still still able to get out anddo tours over there. Europe is a
big place to play, but you'reworking like never before. It seems like
you're working now in the years,in the last twenty years that you've ever
worked in the last since you startedyour career, like you're releasing records between
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bangal require you know Iron Allies,the solo records. Man, I told
you every time you release the record, we're going to talk, and here
we are again. We just talkedabout Bangalore and here we are with a
new solo rese record. I meanit's crazy. Well, actually a lot
of that stuff was during COVID thatI did, so it seems like I'm
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doing like a record every six months. But yeah, they schedule it whenever
they find appropriate, you know,without really telling me. So I think
they They've actually released two records Idid on the same day, two different
record companies. Wow. And I'veguessed on a bunch of stuff with friends,
like a band called Goot some Emotionfriends. I did you know the
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Wicked Sensation record three or four yearsago. It gets pretty cluttered, but
I'm really not. I mean Ihad to survive. I had to eat,
man, I mean we got Icouldn't even leave the house for like
two years. Yeah, I knowit was bad in Italy. I remember
that it was super bad. Itwas one of the worst places to get
hit. You were, you wereStockley, you couldn't you were lockdown,
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you couldn't get away. If youdid you might notice that broke out,
They said thirty minutes from my house. I was scheduled for a session the
next day and I was called likeat seven in the morning. He said
it was like, I think abomb happened or something. The whole town
ship down. I'm like, whatare you talking about? And then I
turned on the news and it actuallystarted in that village. Some guy had
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come back from China and had ameeting with like twenty of his staff and
everybody just got really sick in thattown, like literally thirty minutes from my
house. Yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah, I can't believe that.
But that did that affect you writingwise? I mean, that's was going
all over the world, right,people were talking about so much. Did
that creep into what you wanted tosay? Like as far as even if
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you want to get away from it, everyone wanted to talk about it.
Did you try to get away fromthat or did you lean into it?
I lean into it because that's fromthe beginning, you know, I was
told by I mean I had arecord coming out called The Company of Souls
like that week, Yeah, andI had I think it was I want
to say, twenty eight shells.Maybe thirty eight, I don't know,
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And I mean I from the seventhof March or twenty twenty. The release
date was the thirteenth. I thinkthe seventh was when it was announced up
COVID. Yeah, and I thinkfive days afterwards, I was getting five
cancelations minimum per day. Yeah,so it definitely had an effect. I
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mean I didn't know if it wasin in the world or what was going
on. Then they forced me tobe when they kind of open it up.
You couldn't play unless you're vaccinated.Yeah, so or had the booster
or something I can't remember it orsomething, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got really upset about that.And then I went to Denmark and took
a day job roofing and I didthere they do the nasal swab. Yeah,
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and I coming home to Italy,I went to you know, check
in, and they said, oh, we don't accept nasal swabs in London
because I had to layover and Heathrowand I said, what are you talking
about? And then they pointed downthe home. They said, for three
hundred pounds you can get a testand then you can get on the plane.
I flipped out. I said,I'm negative let me on that friggin
plane. And yeah, I wrotea lot about that whole dark period.
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And come to find out, afterI'd had the shots and then the booster,
we got definitely sick the whole familyin like January the following year.
It didn't matter. Yeah, we'resupposed to be free of it. And
then we still got it. Andit was like called omicron or something.
Yeah, that was it. Yeah, and people said that, People said
that if you got that shot,well it didn't affect you as bad.
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You could have died from it ifyou never got the shot. But I
mean if you still got it anyway, I mean, ye, are they
worse or better? People who passedaway had underlying issues too, Like it's
hard to say, well, Igot stick from it. I was hospitalized
three months after that I had theomicron. I was hospitalized for twelve days,
and my doctor said it was adirect attribute because of the vaccine.
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They were seeing the same symptoms allover Italy. I directly asked him,
is this because of the vaccine.He said, yes, I can't lie.
We're finding scientific data that it's affectingpeople. So that knocked me on
my ass. So yeah, ofcourse I mean, I mean it,
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it affected me greatly and I tothis day I refuse. I will never
do that again. I mean metoo, I hear you. I'm not
going to do it. I meanit's it was I think it was a
dry run and it worked and lookwhat happened. I mean over here,
venues are still really suffering because ofit, in America especially. I mean
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I'm booking the tour starting March first. I mean, so many venues are
like, man, we just don'thave that kind of money. I mean,
it's nobody's going out and you know, it's crazy. Yeah, I
know, I'm kind of almost surprised. I'm glad you're coming back over,
but I'm almost surprised you're able tomake that happen. Yeah. I mean
my tour manager is, you know, greatly responsible for a lot of that.
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Believes in me. Robert Anderson.You two just hooked up today.
I understand timing perfect time literally afinances be where I talked to you in
person. Yeah, yeah, Imean he's great. I've known since I
was seventeen. Wow. We kickoff in Minneapolis, and are you there?
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I lost you? Do we loseinternet? David's Green froze up and
I can't are you there? Areyou there? It froze up completely?
Can you hear me? Yeah?I got you. Now Here we go.
It doesn't like what we're talking about. We can't talk about COVID.
Someone's shutting this. Yeah that's funny, interesting, interesting, Yeah, here
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we go, Here we go.We're just talking about music. Man.
Everyone just relaxed, calm down,it's all yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can't be honest. We can'tbe honest, but we can talk about
music. No smiling, no laughing, no talking. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, are you I'mgoing to assume that you're using American musicians.
You have people already over in theStates that are going to be there
for the tour, right, that'sgoing to make things cheaper, obviously.
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Absolutely. I got a killer band, Billy Schlump on guitar, Logan Lowbrick
on drums, and we had adifferent basis, but he had some health
concerns with his knees. So I'vegot another young kid named Joey and I
can't even pronounce his last name.But first show is Route forty seven in
Fridley, Minnesota, and from whatI understand, it's nearly sold out.
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That's good. So and then thenext night is Turtle Lake, Wisconsin at
the Casino. And then I'm I'mI'm floundering, you know, with commitments
on dates with Chicago and some otherareas. So, yeah, I was
gonna say, the only ones Isaw was Wisconsin and Minnesota. I didn't
know if there was any more afterthat. I didn't see any you said
Chicago, Now I had, Ihad twelve confirmed. But like we talked
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about it, their economic status andthemself. A lot of bands are being
canceled out because of of course ticketsales, lack of interest of just going
out. And yeah, there's alot of Yeah, there's a lot of
things on the road. There's alot of people. There's a lot of
crews that aren't available buses, vandslike I mean, venues that there's pees,
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there's just people not available to dothe work to behind the scenes.
People forget about that. You need, you know, people to get from
place to place, to haul theequipment to move that around. If roadies
that people aren't available for that,what are you going to do? It
doesn't matter. What happened was COVIDcreated a bottleneck. You know, you
had all the cancellations, and thenyou every they opened the back to the
free world, and then everybody hasto honor their commitments and their advances that
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they had from the promoters. SoI mean, like in Germany there was
one city I know for as afact, a few months ago, WASP
and Schenka were in the same littletown. I mean half the people intended
to show up for each group showedup. I mean they were booked on
the same night, literally within spittingdistance of each other. I mean that
that's insane. Yeah, that's crazy. Two good shows too. How can
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you pick between the two? Amazing? They were torn watch half half Blackie
half Michael. I mean, whatare we going to do? Kind of
stuck? Yeah, exactly, juststay home, you know, yeah,
exactly. Before we move on tothe new record, of course, one
thing about the previous records that wetouched upon, the Ka coffee and everything.
Do you find those records kind ofgot lost because of what happened?
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Like you, I mean, youalways create things, But do you find
that they didn't get they didn't geta fair shake because of everything that went
down, and they kind of gotlost in the shuffle. How do you
feel about that I hate it.Cacophony outsold Blacklist Utopia. I mean that
record seemed to be a fan favoriteover the number one right after, And
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while I love both records, Ihave to kind of admit Cacophony was a
better album. So that kind ofleads into in a way. I mean
I kind of got a little moreprogressive with Blacklist. I mean, there's
great songs on it, but yeah, it's really very consistent. Yeah,
people walk up and say, Igot both, but I prefer Cacomphany,
and it's really weird, you know, you don't really know what the fans
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are going to respond like. Sotrue, I love them both, but
I have to say, from whatI've been told and people holding up the
record in the merse booth or wantingme to autograph it, I see more
Cacophony, but it definitely put abit of a downward breeze on being.
You know, when you make arecord, anybody can make one in their
bathroom right now. So absolutely youhave to play live, you know.
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I mean, unless you're an Aplus act or B plus actor, you're
not getting those those opportunities, youknow, to where it's reasonable just to
get out of the housing and payyou guys, because you know, remember
in the nineties, studios cost aboutthe same as they do now. Musicians,
from what I know, pretty muchcharge what they did then. And
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it's hard to get a bunch ofgreat guys to go out for nothing and
spend four days in a van forfree to play in front of crowds.
I mean, it's just not right. I don't I don't ask that of
my people. I'm the last guyto get paid. That's how I keep
that, Yeah, exactly. That'show you keep good guys working with you,
though, because they know, hey, they're going to be well taken
care of release by you. Theymay not have a lot to go around,
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but what they do get, they'regoing to get it. They're not
going to be screwed over. They'renot. It's not David Reese first,
you know, right well, Ialways make it the new band. I
have new players, Italian guys thatliterally live thirty minutes from me here,
and it was just by a strokeof the stars lining up that I ran
into them. The one and onlything that I'll say, and maybe I'm
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not I should be more of adick that, like a lot of people
are, But I say one thing, two things. Don't ever lie to
me, and don't call me athief if you ever say that or suspect
me of that. Question me andasked me, Hey, you said this,
where's this? That's fine, Butif you say those two things,
you're done. You're out. Mycamp is empty. There's an open slot.
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I mean, I'm booking flights rightnow for my Scandinavian tour in April.
It takes hours. I mean I'mlooking for We fly to Copenhagen,
then we fly home from Sweden.It's an endeavor with all the equipment as
you mentioned before, and lining up, opening acts, back lines, it's
not an easy task. And I'mdoing all that with my name and my
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head on the chopping box. Butat the end of the day, you
guarantee them a fee for their performance, their rooms. You're dealing with promoters,
hotels, you're dealing it's an allday excursion. So if anybody ever
questions my integrity, I don't.I don't go well, hey, man,
I know you're upset. I justsay that's it. You're offended me,
get out of my face, goaway. Yeah, don't go right
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in your mouth if you got aproblem otherwise. Yeah, people get upset.
I get it. I yell atmy wife about things that I even
know what I'm talking about, andshe does me. I mean, I'm
like, I've seen my neighbors fightingwith my son the other day over parking.
I mean in front of the house. I mean, it happens,
But don't ever question. I mean, I'm not perfect, but I'm not
I've done done with that. I'mdone with being questioned. You know of
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my good intention. I say,this is what I pay. Will you
accept it? Yes? I acceptit. Here's your money. I paid
before each show, which is reallynice. You hand a guy his fee
for the performance. It kind ofplays a lot better than he would if
to wait till the end of theweek. You know what I mean,
I just got paid. Let's gohave fun. You know. Yeah,
he might hit those cords, right, yeah. Yeah, it's psychological.
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It's a beautiful thing. So forme, I come home and go through
all the taxes and the money,and I'm like, well, you know,
if it wasn't for the merch onthat four day ron, I would
be really hurting. You know.It sounds like you do everything in the
house like you don't really have.I know you have people working in your
camp for you, for for littlethings, but it sounds like for the
most part you're doing it all inthe house, your control of everything as
far as you know. Oh yeah, and I don't. I don't know
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Julian promoting. I mean, yeah, I mean I stand that off with
somebody, but I'm sick of it. Yeah, but at least I know
it directly. You know what's happening. You know what's happening in your house.
You know how it's going. Youdon't have someone saying, yeah,
David, we got this, sodon't worry, I book this, we
got this. The money's coming here, we don't you know, you know
where it's coming and going. Ifthere's a funck up, well to you,
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I get copy that every every agreement, and you know, I do
get pushback on it. What doyou want that for? It's a business,
I mean, and I'm you don'tdo a contract building your house without
a contract, right you know,Yeah, well you certainly can't for you.
Yeah, and then you end upgetting fucked and then you're like,
well what happened? Well, Ididn't do the business, which I've made
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that mistake I don't even want tokind of count how many times. So
that's I'm harsh that way. ButI'm always straightforward. And I'm really lucky
because a lot of the promoters,I mean a lot of times they'll offer
to pay me in advance, likenow, and I'm like, no,
man's it's April or whatever. We'lldeal with it like the middle of March,
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you know. So I maintained agood relationship with the people I work
with, and that's important to me. I know a lot of guys that
don't. And those certain promoters callme and go, man, can you
call so? And someone get inthe answer the phone. And I'm not
getting involved. I warned you before, Yeah exactly. I mean, you
don't need anyone else's troubles and you'renot going to put your name on the
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line for that. It's been toolong. You've been how many years in
this business? Won two years?I mean, you don't need any more.
Couple, I watched I watched RealQuick. I watched an interview with
Robert Redford the other day and andand they asked for his advice about acting.
I mean, Robert Redford is superstar, right, yeah, and he's
kind of he's up there now,and I didn't know he was still alive,
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to be honest with you, Yeah, I mean, I mean he
still looks rather recently the gift fromGod. Right, he said, there's
two things about entertainment. One wastreacherous and basically the other one was evil.
So if you're prepared, you knowyour your skin has to be extra
thick. I mean, because hecame from nothing and basically got lucky because
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of his good looks. Because heoriginally wanted to be a pro baseball player.
I didn't know which he would havemade a poster card for a card,
right, He had all the booksand everything, but he walked into
acting in an accident, you know, but flounded around for years not knowing
what to do until he did,like a play with Paul Newman. Yeah,
and the second movie was Butch Cassidy, right, yeah, so I
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kind of went from there. Yeah, yeah, boom, it was off
to the races. That's how itworks. But if you know it's a
treacherous business, it's there are nofriends in the music business. I mean,
there's guys that you that you workwith, that you deeply care for
and love. As the word brothers. Business that people forget, especially people
who aren't in it. Yeah,it's a business. Why don't you go
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Why can't you play with this guy? Why don't you just work things out
with this guy? Why aren't youa wolf hanging out every day? It's
a it's a business almost for it. It's a business. There's the reason
why people don't tour at this stageof the game. They don't work with
people they don't want to work with. You go back to your job you
were at and work with the samepeople you were with before. No,
it's the same thing. It's acompany. It's hard to it's hard to
see it that way because it's music. There's still a business behind. Otherwise
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we wouldn't have it, and peopleforget what people it's like you go to
an office, right. I havea friend who just told me the other
day. She said, I'm fiftysix. I think she said she could.
I'm taking an early retirement. Ican't set it my desk in the
computer anymore. I can't do it. I don't like the people, they
don't like me. I've been herethirty years. I can't do this anymore.
I'm so unhappy. I want todie happy now when you're in a
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band, You're you're around each otherconsiderable amount of time, more in your
own family, sometimes more than yourwife. Yeah, kids, and you're
at your family, main family,right, four different marriages on one bus,
yeah, exactly. Yeah. Andfor lunatics that are as crazy as
me, I mean, and youall got a bad day. I mean,
it can be pretty weird. Andthat's why you see a lot of
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these people in bands, you know, doing their selfies walking through cities,
just going for a walk. Igot to await from these people. Separate
dressing rooms if you can afford it, separate places. I mean, look
at the bigger bands. Look,yeah, they're all in separate buses,
separate places. Look at Aerosmith,look a Moley cue. You think they're
all hanging out backstage, hugging eachother and doing the same doing cigarettes,
no money talks. It's not.There's no love lost between those guys and
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the only reason they're doing it.Yeah, maybe there are respectful of each
other, but they don't. Theycan't stand each other, ye is.
Yeah, a big difference between Bro, you're getting offered fifty grand for an
hour and a half a day toplay, you're going to get on that
bus or that flight and go dothat gig. I don't have to talk
to you before or after, youknow, seeing the gig, see on
stage. You know, that's adifference in in my level. You know,
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No, I know that's all thesame. That's the reason why you
don't get back with certain people too, because it's just the money's not there.
If the money was there, itmight be a different story. But
if it's not worth your time andenergy and it's not worth the money you
got, your happiness comes first.Well, Harman and I talked about it.
What if they didn't accept fest andlike Shanker did, And I said,
I do it with you because absolutelyI said, let's get in a
renth of car and fall of us. Yeah, I said, we agree
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with let's do it. But youknow, certain powers that be would never
even consider that. And I wouldbe open arms to be able to sing
four or five or so of mysongs from that era. But certain people
don't want to even be reminded thatthey did that. And so it would
be a great seller to bring thewhole history of people that played it that
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band for the last fifty years.It's a great idea because there are rumors
going around it may happen, butno phone calls here. I almost think
that it could happen without certain otherpeople, because you have pretty much,
you're in good contact with pretty mucheveryone else part of that, I would
assume. Yeah, I mean I'mclosest too of all. Yeah, which
is surprising. Some people might findthat surprise, and I don't after we
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talk. But I mean there's yeah, even Peter, like, I'm pretty
sure almost anybody can get up thereat this point except for one sure,
and then look at I mean,let's let's just go there. I mean,
Udo is selling out, and Peter'sback in the band. I mean
it speaks volumes of his importance ofthose being part of that, and they're
doing the basically an except set andthey're selling out everywhere. I'm getting a
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surprise, no surprise, and iswhat it is. So of course,
the most important thing is you.We always talk about you. You're the
main star of this conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, modest too.
Baptized by Fire, which is aboutto be released about a month from now
or less March, the first itcame to me out of nowhere, not
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really, but it almost sort ofdid, because the last time we spoke,
which wasn't that long ago. Imean, on the record, we
were talking new Bangalore Choir and allof a sudden, out of nowhere,
here comes another Reese solo record.It's Baptized by Fire. Tell me about
how it started and why now andwhat inspired you again. The Bangalore thing
was a concoction of just us beingasked to do festivals last year and some
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other stuff. And I got reallylucky because I needed a studio because the
COVID thing kind of stopped me fromgoing that thirty minute drive and scheduling.
You know, it's more night sessions. Then I heard about Ricardo de Morosi
in my town. He at Senza, So I went over to meet with
him one day, and he wasa young guy, and I'm like,
okay, you know, you don'treally know each each other. And I've
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got these demos for some other bandsthey won't meet. They're paying me to
sing on. So I said,let's just throw it up and see what
happened. A couple of days.Man, not that thrilled, blah blah
blah, but we grew to knoweach other, and then he brought in
Naylo Samin Ellie who's now actually playingdrums and Iron Allies Francesco had to leave.
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I brought in Naylo because I've beenworking with him. I said,
this kid's got it. He actuallyplayed on some of the Iron Allies demos,
and those guys go, who's thatguy? You know, that's the
guy that I work with here,He's good. And then lo and behold,
I find out he's got this beastof a guitarist brother named Nicolo.
So Ricardo and I just kind ofsat down thinking, let's just keep writing
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songs, because we wrote a lotof the New Bangal for ourself together and
blah blah blah. I was goingto ask you about the same guys that
were in Bengal required doing writing withyou. They're kind of the same people,
almost right, yeah, Yeah,And Richardo produced it and we've grown
together as a kind of a productionteam. I give him more credit than
myself because I'm a nerd for it, but I don't really don't know how
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it works. But he started bringingto me this youthful thing, and weirdly,
at the same time, my wifewas going through a Chris Cornell phase
nice and I started crank an audioslave and sell Garden again in my house,
which when it came out, Iwas blown away, and I'm like,
oh my god, this guy's agod. You know. So then
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you meet up with guys that area few years younger than you that you
know, kind of came out ofthat, and then they're really into the
metal metal thing. New metal,Yeah, I mean new metal, Like,
are you talking about new metal fromtwo thousand, like Corn the Biscuit
or something like just newor a littlebit of that. I mean, they're
they're huge fans of Korn, They'rehuge fans of Nirvana, They're huge fans
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of everything that I wanted to hate, but I like nineties early two thousands.
Yeah, exactly, that's okay,Just so I know what area you're
talking about. Yeah, I mean, and they listen to that step in
the car and I'm like, what'she saying? Who is that? And
they're going, that's so and sofrom or you know, I've heard like
that it's not my cattle to thecapitation, Yeah, you know, and
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you're going and they're like this,I mean, they're there heading the game.
I'm like, this sucks. Andthen after a couple of times ago,
that's a pretty cool riff? Whatis that? That's so? And
then they got they love underground sometal that nobody gets a chance to hear.
So that influenced them. But collectively, I really think this album is
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the best I've done solo. Now, everybody, I'm gonna just because I
can tell you this right to yourface. Everybody says that when they first
promote a new record. Absolutely whatI'm not? What's the road? David
is different? What's different? I'mI don't know. It's just like I,
like I said, either there wasdifferent music being thrown around my house,
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even food fighters. Okay, Imean I love David Grohl. I
respect him beyond measure. I mean, the guy is he just pounds it
out. I mean, I don'tknow how he can shut like that as
loud as he does, but Iknow, yeah, I mean then I
then I started thinking, you know, I wonder who was really part of
the songwrinning team with Kurt Cobain.You can really hear it or died it
rub off from him from Kurt?I don't know. But what's different about
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it is it's a fresh sound.It's young guys that have brought that new
stuff that kind of skip my generationbecause you know, I grew up on
White Snake and Bad Company in Zeppelin, and that's White Snake pre here I
go again. That's like seventy eight, seventy nine early, Yes, White
Snake we're talking was trying to bePaul Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, when
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he had the guys from Purple inthe band and John Lord then yeah,
which is great. There's some greatrecords that a people don't know ready and
willing, you know, I meanthose are coming at it. Yeah,
even Slider up until that point whenJohn Sykes joined them at the start of
Good Yeah, before he lost hisvoice. Yeah, sadly, yeah,
and he came back. You know, I don't want to say it's my
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best record, bad choice or words. Uh, it's it's it's something that
I'm very happy with. I wasgoing to say something. I had this
great speech plan, but I totallyforgot. It probably means nothing. That's
why I forgot. I'm calling youout on you on your best record.
That was my fault. Well that'scool. I like it. It's a
challenge. But you know what pushedforward and whatever come? Should I write
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that, I say, yeah,that represents me. I'm going to release
it, and you know what,when Enemy is Me came out the video,
which I just saw it just it'sslammed. Dude. Look at how
many views happened. I mean Isaw the comments, the views. I
was like, holy, and thatgot released? What as the time recorded?
What? Two days ago? Aday ago? I was released February
first, Yeah, yeah, likethree o'clock in the afternoon. Crazy.
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Normally they do Friday, but Copertodid it on Thursday. I thought,
you know what if I get acouple thousand views, you know by Sunday,
I'm tickled to death. I'll lookat it. I mean it's been
and the reviews have been fucking great, man. I mean I'm like,
wow, they go, RECEI reallypushing it on this one. I go,
oh yeah, and that's that's whatI wanted to do. I'm angry,
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I'm happy, all the emotions areon it. And you know,
these young guys, dude, whenwe go to rehearsal, I don't know
if I told you this before.When we practice for a gig, I'll
go there and they're already there andI go, what's going on? They
go, We've been rehearsing for acouple of hours to set, I'm like,
really ready to go, yeah,and then I sing ninety minutes and
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then my voice is shot. SoI'm like, let's go get a pizza
guys and hang out, and theygo, no, we want to run
the set a few more times.I'll see you tomorrow. And I'm like,
wow, you know they're really intoit that I needed that kickstart,
I mean, and working with guysthat have done it for so long,
it's kind of like, do wereally have to just let's just do a
laft gym in the dressing room beforewe go on, and you know,
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live you can feel that. Butthese guys, I mean, they analyze
the songs and tell me, Dave, you're not singing that right. It
goes like this, Oh, especiallythe drummer, he pushes me really hard.
That's good, you need it.And it doesn't sound like I've told
you this a million times before,and not just because you're here in front
of me, but your voice overthe years, it just seems as strong
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as ever. And I want toask you about that too, because it's
easy for people like me to say, oh, David, your voice is
good. I love your voice.It sounds great. I mean I'm a
big fan, which is all true. But when you hear things like that,
do you A do you believe it? And B how does that make
you feel? When you hear that, like really feel do you feel self
conscious about that? Do you feellike it's warranted? I don't want to
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believe it for you know, like, hey man, I really got it.
How does it make me feel?I just feel like lucky me because
I know a lot of guys thator my age that can't do half of
bit anymore, and they're they're outthere trying to show everybody they can and
it's really bad or they're putting iton tape. Yeah, and I'm not.
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I mean, my band is live. I mean, we use a
couple backing harmony tracks, but that'sit because some of that ship's in space,
you know the notes. But Ijust feel lucky. I mean,
I I took care of my voice. I took a lot of voiceless.
As a matter of fact, I'min language school now and I'm back in
vocal school. Wow. I'm doingthree days of voice classes a week,
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and I do two days of languageschool a week. I do voice in
the morning for two hours every dayand then I do three classes, So
you're putting the work in. You'redoing what needs to be done to keep
your voice in shape because you careabout the performans you deliver, both on
records and obviously live. That's becauseI notice, I mean, I mean,
I'll be honest. You notice theolder you get that those two little
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strings, the vocal cords, theythey're not They're a muscle, and it's
like a soccer player or an athlete. There's you notice little nuances that change
and you have to learn how tosing around with them to get there.
I mean, I don't have thatget there like I did on Eat the
Heat or Bangalore the first album.I don't have that anymore, but I
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can get there in a way whereit's acceptable. But I don't do it
as often because you don't sing thoseas all. Well. I guess you
would, because there are quote unquotehits that people would know from you.
But do you find yourself trying tohit those like give me an example,
Let's say I don't know Bengal orlike Angel and Block or if it's accept
ecstasy, I don't know what ahard one. Ecstasy is? Hard?
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Is hard that you give me justinthat's great that part. Yeah, yeah,
but uh, freight train rolling offBengalore on target, that's a bitch
to sing. I don't care.I'll put you up against anybody sing that
song four nights in a row.It's a ball breaker. And I don't
know why the hell I wrote itin that high of a key, because
probably in those days I could singin a lot easier. But you know,
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you you got to it's up heresinging at ninety nine percent in your
head, yeah, you know,and then you got to deal with colds
and no sleep. And that's onething I'm a staunch support of rest,
no alcohol, don't smell. Ofcourse I'm chewing on a cigar, but
I never liked it. I justlove to chase the team. But well,
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you mentioned before we talked a fewone hundred episodes ago, you talked
about you quit drinking too. Atthat point was a while ago, a
couple of years ago. I thinkit was during or pre COVID, right,
you quit drinking. I quit itwas five years of sobriety last September.
Yeah, so it's been a while. I think it's one of the
first things we talked about. Thefirst time we chatted. I was not
so. I wouldn't say surprised,but I was. I was, you
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know, surprised to hear that yourealized that was an issue and you cut
down. It helped your voice atthe time, is what you told me.
I think so. I think itgave me a few extra years now.
I don't know. I mean,my voice teacher says, sounds pretty
good. We got to work tothis range here, this middle needs a
little strengthening, and I'm to goget checked out in the summer, just
you know, in the normal vocalcheck up, look down the throat,
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through the nose and see if there'sany follo ups. I mean, you
know, you'd be amazing. Imean, Freddie Mercury had notes and he
did the last live. I meanhe had a couple of calensies on his
vogal. But listen to him youkind of learn how to sing with it.
Yeah, I mean, but thisis rock and roll stuff. I
mean, it's it's like listen toa drill sergeant in the Marines, and
every one of them's got a voicelike Froggy. It's got They're shouting all
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day. Oh my god, justripping the cords apart. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, but if you do itright and you and you you know,
you're not drinking while you're on stage, you getting all bloated and stupid
and doing stupid shit and then hurtingyour voice, and you're not in the
van talking for two or three hours, because the worst part about a singer
is to come down time from theadrenaline. That's weird because you go,
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you gear up all day, dosound check, and then you set around
in a dressing room like an idiot, or go some restaurant, and then
you go back to the Then youthe anxiety of you know, how many
people are here. You start hearingthe noise in the room. And then
you go do the gig and youget all jack packed up and then you
go back into the dress room yousweat down. Then you go to merch
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and talk for a couple hours,you know, selling your product. Yeah
yeah, you get in the van. Yeah, and you're in the van
and everybody's the guys that do drinkof you know kind of, so you
get involved and you're all chatting itup and then you go The hardest thing
to do is shut up, yeah, because you're pumpedy, or you walk
out of the venue and a guyin a van drives you right to a
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hotel and said, here's your room, good night, and you're standing there
going, your ears are ring going. It's like I just got into a
fistfight with Mike Tyson and I gotto come down and go to sleep because
I got to get up at fivepoint thirty and be in a lobby called
at seven thirty after breakfast and beingin the van it's seven forty five and
drive eight hours to the next city. It's hard, man. Yeah,
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I can imagine. I'm just lookingat a time five minutes. It's going
to come me off in five minutes. I want to mention. I want
to mention the artwork on the albumas well. Uh it's Newton Artworks,
Richie Newton. I mean he dida great job. I mean I can't
say enough about him. He reallyreally did well with that. I want
to give him a plug. Yeah, sure we can. We can keep
talking. When it runs out,I'll wait for it to restart again if
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you want to come back, ifyou got time, you want to do
that, so you give you enoughtime to feel like you said everything,
or do you have to go?I think I said everything. I mean
check out the video. Enemy isme and uh once again, Chad,
do that plug again just so weget a good copy of the thing.
Is I kind of about the coverwork? Yeah, the big cheap He's
super he's super aggressive, Like yeah, I'm going to do like an AI
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thing with him, like going towar or something, just massacring people.
I don't know, but I kindof did it, like what they did
with Eddie. I mean they keepevolving. Uh. That was Richie Newton
from Newton Artworks. I mean Igot to give him a plug. He's
great and you can reach him onFacebook. Very professional, you know,
time, willing to listen to ideasand actually add greater ideas than I had.
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Like you said, Dave, you'redoing everything or in the driver's seat.
Yeah, but you know, Ilike it when somebody feeds back.
You know, you know you canhand it off to certain people. You
know it's going to get the resultsthat you want. Yeah, before I
let you go, Yeah, yeah, exactly, before I let you go.
With the time I have, Iwant to talk to talk a bit
about the live shows coming up.So in the live set, without giving
too much away, will you beplaying some of this record as well as
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accept as well as Bengal required.Do you think is there anything you're going
to leave out of that because youjust think you won't be able to pull
it off or you just don't wantto try it againymore like what would you
leave office set? At this point, You're like, we're going to trim
out some of the Bangalore stuff andmaybe one or two of Eat the Heat.
But we're doing Ecstasy, We're doingGeneration Clash, We're going to showcase
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a lot of the new album.We've done some classic covers that I do
my kind of my thing on itover really will. Now we're not doing
that. We're doing Ain't Eleve inthe Heart of the City, but I
do it on David Reesway. Uhyou know, you know I say a
love hurts right because you did thatand you and you killed I don't know
we were talking about your voice,but what you did there. I told
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you this last time the heights yougot to that man, It's insane.
I mean that was that was likewhat that came out July last year.
I mean I literally did that songin one take. I throw it up
and and Rick Card looked at meand going Jesus Christ come in here and
listen to that. I go,dude, listen to it, and I
went, hey, I nailed it. And that's Stan McCaffrey. I mean,
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that guy's voice was ridiculous. That'slike Brian Johnson on steroids. You
know, yeah, absolutely, orOxel Rose who goes a big maybe yeah,
but you know, I mean,I would like to throw that song
in this say. It kind ofdepends on the night. I mean,
we got just a few dates inthe States and then I come back and
do uh a pretty good run inScandinavia, and we'll feel out what works
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in the rehearsals because they're long rehearsalsin America. But definitely I want to
showcase that there's another one that Ithere'll be another video coming out, I
think the first of March. It'scalled We've Lost the Fight from the new
album. And then during the tour, we're doing some shows that Blaze Bailey
and Scandinavia, and we're going tofilm the audience of a song Tomorrow Don't
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Matter Today, which is the lasttrack on the record that Nicolo wrote the
music to. It's fabulous and hedoes great video work as well. But
we're going to film the crowd becauseit's like a sold out show with Blaze,
So we want that interaction just forthe media, for the bookers and
everybody to see that, Hey,this isn't just some twenty person nightclub act,
(38:44):
you know what I mean? Yeah? Absolutely, you're a busy man,
my friend. Go to David Reese'sofficial on Facebook. That's everything you
got going on. There's always posts. It's a busy page everything David Reese.
You can check it out. Getyour fill of that kind good enough,
And the next time you release therecord again, maybe I'll be better
prepared and we'll do this again.You threaten me every time we do this,
(39:07):
we're gonna talk again. So we'regonna gonna make it. I appreciate
you have times going short, bro, but I'll get you a copy.
It's been great talking man, talkto you to take care you in person.
Yeah, make it happen. Comeover to the States again, stay
longer. I'm gonna get my assover there. Take care of men anytime
(39:29):
by David. You've been listening tothe Nobody's or Somebody's podcast with Me Chadvice,
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