July 3, 2025 • 50 mins
In this week's episode, I talk with Brett Siples, drummer, from the bands 'Fractured Mirror' and 'Two Pump Chump'. Growing up in Indiana, he got into drumming at a young age thanks to his Dad, and it was all downhill from there. This is (some) of Brett's story!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nobodies are somebodies.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, it's me Chadvice, and it's a sad little day here,
a sad little week here in Vice Mansion. If anybody's
been following me for a number of years or a year,
or six months or three months, one week, or even
two seconds, you know that the Chevrolet Bruce, my beloved
(00:26):
twenty fourteen beautiful Chevrolet Bruce car, has been a fixture
in my life for well since twenty fourteen, long before
I had a podcast, long before I had anything online,
long before I had Paradvice, City Lawn, before Nobody's radio station.
It was always a Chevrolet Bruise and me and I
got my family around, I got my ass around, It
(00:48):
got me everywhere I needed to go, for the most part.
And say what you want about Chevy car, Chevy cruises specifically,
they don't make them anymore. They don't make them like
they used to. It's not about that. It's about my
love with this car. It's a car I didn't expect
to have, but was happy when I did. And it
was my next car after my very first car, which
was a two thousand and three Saturn Eye on picking
(01:11):
Great Cars, Chad. But yeah, I'm not a car guy,
as you can see, and you're gonna hear about. But
I really enjoyed this car. Chevrolet Bruce became synonymous with
me in the podcast. And she's been under a lot
of repairs, and she's had a lot of work done,
as you can imagine, and it's been costly affairs to
keep the old girl on the road. Right now, it
(01:34):
may amaze you to know that she has got it
about last count four hundred and eighty two thousand, seven
hundred and fifty six. I want to say kilometers. I
don't know how many miles that is. I think it's
almost three hundred thousand miles. Could be off by a
few hundred thousand miles, but it's a lot of miles
on her and I've been glad to put them all
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and she's happily accepted them all, and she still purrs
like a kitten. But many little things have broken down.
Nothing major like the motor obviously, and transmission knock on wood,
but little things coolant repairs, brakes obviously, general general maintenance,
you know, tires, and replacements of water pumps and heating pumps,
(02:19):
cooling pumps, fuel filters, you know, oil filters, oil pan gaskets.
I have a litany of items here that it's been
replaced on the car, and actually this is no different.
So basically I'll cut to the chase. She's off the
road again, but this time might be for the final time.
Again for the third time, her coolant system will probably
(02:43):
need to be replaced. The hose and the fan radiator
fan have gone, and this will be the second time
I've made coolant either the reservoir or the whole coolant system.
Cooling system has been replaced, I think twice at this point.
Here as we sit in twenty twenty five, the third
day of July twenty twenty five. And again, for people
(03:05):
who know me and know about the podcast, I know
about the podcast. One of my biggest, you know, joys
in life is doing uber eats, you know, because my
life is going so well, and I enjoy doing this
as a you know, a side hustle pastime and you know,
gets my creative juices flowing, driving around at night, relaxing,
just you know, taking in the scenes of the local
(03:26):
city outside the city I live in, and I just
enjoy the autonomy of it, anatomy of autonomy of it,
and I enjoy just the like the driving aspect gets
me a lot of creative focus for what I do
here on the podcast too. So the Cruise has gone
down to a faulty coolant system again, and it's a
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big ask, it's a big replace, and I don't think
I'm gonna be able to make it this time. And
it didn't help matters either, because my car was overheating
while waiting for my beloved McDonald's coffee one night, while
picking up another Uber order, and it was starting to overheat,
not going into the complete red, but you know, when
it goes past the temperature limit, it's always a you know,
(04:10):
wt WTF moment, Like it's all the problems I've had
with the coolant cooling system of the car overheating for
the last eleven years. I've I watched that temperature dial
like like a hawk. I'm always on it, always looking
at it. I'm always worried it's gonna move. I always
checked to see did it move, did it move, did
it go? Is it going up? Is it going down?
(04:30):
That's never happened, but I'm always I'm always on it,
and I wasn't looking that I noticed it starts to
go into the words the red I'm like, what is
going on? Now? Pull over into the parking lot of
where I'm gonna be picking up food Barbarrito Mexican Burrito place.
Shut her off, and I feel like it's happened in
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the past. I have coolant in the back. I want to,
you know, maybe top it up. But here's the trick, folks.
You gotta wait, like they say, before you put or
check your coolant reservoir, make sure the car has been
off for a decent period of time. And I know this,
but I'm impatient, and I'm worried, and I got to
pick up this call. I don't want to get moving.
(05:11):
I don't want to waste my night. Let's throw some
coolant in and let's get going. That's not the case. Yes,
I waited, No, I didn't wait long enough. Now, if
you've had this happen or know what happens, it's pressurized.
You want to wait till the car obviously depressurize as
cool as down as it were before you start opening
big you know, valves and lids. And it wasn't cooled
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off enough. Now I'm okay, I didn't get burnt. It's
very hot. You don't want that stuff splashing on you
could be third or fifteen hundred degree burns. If you
do never let that touch your skin, you will die.
You will be disfigured. So once I turned the valve,
the pressure that you could hear that. You know when
you open like a you shake a coke bottle and
(05:54):
it's under pressure and you know it's going to explode. Well,
it's like that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I didn't open it all the way, didn't have to.
It's under so much pressure. It just blew the cap off,
spraying the total under the hood, motor hoses, battery, everything
with coolant because that's what's in the coolant reservoir everywhere.
(06:21):
I'm fine, I'm a little pissed at myself. Obviously, stupid move, ice,
stupid move and all that. To say it wasn't out
of coolant. It's another problem anyway. I mean I could
have handled that if it was low on coolant. How
it wouldn't have done that. Obviously, if it had no
coolant or low on coolant, it wouldn't have been so much.
But it was like it was a full load. It
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was a full mother load of coolant. So it was
definitely full of coolant. It's not that it's as of
course as I bring it to the garage. It's very
expensive hourly cost pirate highway robbing dealerships charging complete utter
highway robbery of prices for their labor quote unquote their
(07:03):
high intentsive labor. Which hey, I'm not saying that garages
don't do, you know, hard work or some jobs aren't
harder than others, but I mean some of the labor costs,
you know, you can you can be flexible with that,
and some places just they get you coming and going right,
they mark up the price because you're stuck, especially when
you get a tow job you have to get you're
stuck at that's you know, specific dealership because that's where
I'm covered to go by my triple A or whatever
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you want to call it. Yeah, you're kind of stuck.
So I could have handled if it was just coolant.
But it's of course a radiator, which is what they
told me it was, and uh yeah, the radiator fan
and a hose was cracked prior to what I did.
Obviously this is why the car was overheating. But it's
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a high price to pay for a car part that
I've replaced several times. For a car that's over eleven
years in counting older, with a car that's well over
the four hundred and fifty thousand kilometers mark. I'd love
to have got it to five hundred thousand. I mean
I still could. I mean I could find the money,
(08:09):
dig it out, ask for a GoFundMe, find all kinds
of ways to make that bank, to make that payment,
to make that bread, to pay that car. But should
I do it? Should I pull the trigger and get
a new car, a transition car, if you will, because
that's all I'm looking for right now. If I did
move on to another vehicle, just a transition car, I'll
get my dream car, you know, some kind of clown car.
(08:33):
I'll get my dream clown car down the road. I
just need to keep myself on the road for now.
And hey, full transparency. Pay massive debts that I had
that I again, I put myself in, but they need
to be paid. And I'm working hard of doing that.
And I need not be temporarily, very very consistently being
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put off the road by a car that's just you know,
tired and older and has served me well. And should
I get her back on the road, would continue, would
continue to serve me well. But there comes a time
when you must move on and let things go, and
maybe the time is here, I don't know. But what
(09:19):
I will never let go of is my love for
the Chevy Bruise, my love for her and all she's
gotten me through, and my love of doing podcast and
this podcast. Nobody's are somebody's podcast specifically. Hey, when you
talk about podcast, Chad, can you say that Nobody's are
somebody's podcast specifically? So you know what's about me? Yes,
I hear you. So that's what I'm doing here, and
(09:42):
I'm having a long awaited conversation with my friend, a
guy I've never actually met in real life, but one
day I hope to. But I was introduced to by
the wonderful brother from another broken Rubber, Kevin Matthews, who
met this guy Brad Sipels on the Kiss Cruises several
Kiss Cruises, who plays in a bit called Fractured Mirror,
And that's how I met him online, but through this channel,
(10:06):
as he passed on music to my show, The New
Rock Show, which is coming back. If you follow me,
you know what that's about. But I wanted Brett's human story.
I wanted to know about where he started, not just
him as a musician, but where he grew up, which
is not Terre Haute, Indiana, which is where I thought
that's where he lives now. But we of course uncover
all sorts of nuggets of information and get to know Brett.
(10:29):
And that's my job here, and that's what I do
for you, is bring people who you may not know
about hear their human life stories, because that's what this
is about, and that's what you know doing these conversations
are for That's what I get out of them, and
I hope you do too as well when you listen.
So thank you so much for supporting the podcast and
listening when you do. This is only part one of
my conversation with Brett, because there's a whole bunch more,
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like his record store that he opened, Cyples Records in
Tara Hate, which is one of maybe two or three
maybe I think it's only the second record store Hate,
So didn't even get to cover that, didn't even scratch
the service on that. So we're gonna do a part
two for sure, but this is part one. I've rambled
on enough. Now it's time to let Brett put on
his talking and shoes and have a great conversation. Thanks
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Brett for doing this, Thanks Kevin Matthews for bringing him
to me, and thank you for listening to the Nobasers
Somebody's podcast. Follow it on Facebook, on Instagram, email me
chadvice at sebcamco dot com, s E B C A
M c O. Visit the website sebcamco dot com and
interact with me there, suggest a guest or be a
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guest yourself. I want to hear it, by it, and
don't forget to check out Brett on Cyples Records at
his website, which he'll share with you, and as well
his band Fractured Mirror, where he has it on Instagram,
on Facebook, on his website, which he'll share with you
at the end of this episode. So enough talking, let's
start rocking. This is Brett's story recording him progress. There
(12:00):
you go. See whenever I press record, Now I can
see your screen bigger, so I can actually see more detail.
Because before you're just like a little square. I can
see you and kind of the picture. Now I can
see it like legit weird, beautiful, weird times. All right,
let's kick this off. I have no introess for this show.
I just do it. So here we go, Brett ciples
is here with me, and this is your life, my friend.
(12:22):
I can't wait to hear about your whole life, your
whole career. I hope you have your talking shoes on.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I hope so too.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be great. So for those of you
who don't know, and for you who may now remember,
we connected over our mutual friend Kevin Matthews, Kevin Ganley.
So he got me in touch with you from your
band Fractured Mirror, and I played some of your songs
on the New Rock show I had that I have
that's coming back. But that's how I connected with you.
(12:50):
But your story starts a long time before that, man
growing up in Tera Hoae, Indiana. I want to hear
about basically how you even just I had to step
into playing drums telling about a young Brett, What influenced
him the most? And where did you start?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So, I actually grew up in a town in a
town called Brazil, Indiana, which is like twenty minutes away
from Tara Hope. But when you say I'm from Brazil,
people look at you funny.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And you know, they're like, ah, you speak English really well,
you know.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I should keep that going for as long as
you can. Every time that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So on the on Kiss Cruise five, I played on
the pool deck. They had this almost famous contest and
Eric Singer was introducing everybody, and so, you know, everybody's like,
I'm from you know, Chile, and I'm from Canada, and
everybody's like yelling and like I'm from Brazil and everybody
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started screaming, and I was like Indiana and like two
people you know you. So Eric was like, are you
serious right now, I'm like, yeah, it's a real yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But anyways, I love that hilarious.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, it was a good time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So you know, my my dad was a Kiss fan.
Uh so he had Kiss Meets the Phantom taped off
of TV, like complete with commercials and everything. And then
I've also had the Animalized Tour uncensored, you know, Live
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n Censored taped off of m TV.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So it was kind of a.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Shorter version of that too. But I just I grew
up watching those, like from the time that I.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Could watch TV. I you know, I had Superhero.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Kiss and then I had like badass Eric Carr, Bruce Kulick,
you know, just shred and kiss.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Did your dad show it to you or did he
say like, hey watch this, or you just happened to
be in the room and he was watching it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't I don't remember. I think, you know, we
just he just put it on and we just watched
it nice.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And then it got to the point where I was
taking the tapes and that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To watch, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So, and my dad used to play drums. He didn't
play drums when I was growing up, but I but
I knew that, and then watching Eric Carr, I was like,
I have to play the drums. So I I just
begged and begged for a kid forever, and then I
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finally got one on my thirteenth birthday, which was just
a cheap, no name, you know, piece of junk.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But I still have it and it actually sounds good.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So you're still play it on stage?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, I played it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I like rewrapped it and you know, put really
good heads on it and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And I actually played it a couple of times a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So nice, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It works, It works just fine.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, that's cool. That's good to hear.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But yeah, that's kind of how kind of how the
drone things started. But you know, I saw my we
we grew up listening to a lot of like nineties
country because it was so hot at the time. Like, yeah,
my sister was a huge Alan Jackson fan, and so
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we went to see him a couple of times when
I was young. But then I got to see Kiss
in ninety eight, the last time they were here in
Terror Hope, and you know that changed my life. I
was ten, and you know it was just on from there.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, for sure, that was the Psycho circus. I guess
shows and tours and everything. Yeah, that was a good
time back then. Yeah, that was the original band.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Every time I got to see the full original band
in makeup.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, before everything changed and that's cool. And then from
there did you just start playing in bands or like
did you just play at home? Did you like how
did it kind of like where did it go from there?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So when I got my kit, we my dad could
like you know, he could just afford the kit and
like it came with some junkie hardware and we had
a family friend that had some old symbols in their barn,
so we ended up going and getting those. I came home,
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I set it up and I said, hey, Dad, show
me how to play the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Beat to Detroit Rock City.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So he showed me real quick, and then I put
in smashed his thrashes and hits, and then I just
started playing along and then so that's how I taught myself,
was just playing along to kiss songs.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You know, found a couple of guys in uh, you know,
probably late in middle school, early high school, and started
you know, playing with them.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know, I think one of the first songs I
ever played with another band was I Hate to Say
I Told You So by the Hives.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Okay, nice, kind of a random thing, but yeah, yeah,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah. And then you know, from there, like we I
was in. My first real band was called Matters of
the Mind and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You know, straight out of high school. Yeah, absolutely, that's
actually a cool name.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, we had a cool logo, and you know, we
never really had an official bass player, so it's just me,
a guitar player and a singer. But we recorded two
songs onto. I don't even know how we did it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sounds like Molly Crue.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, we did it like with like a boombox and
a microphone, and then we somehow got them transferred to
a CD and then like sold them at school for
like two dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, that's pretty cool, like early promoter, early promotion, managing
the band, selling the merged kind of thing right out
of high school. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Have another guitar player now that I think about it,
but like his mom, who is actually my tax lady now,
she didn't want him like hanging out with not necessarily me,
but the other two guys, So he wasn't a part
of the demo.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The bad band influence. You guys use some crazy rockers
and the things you might get up to. It's back
influence on my son.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You mentioned the Troy Rock City as something you learned
as an intro. That intro itself, that drum intro itself
is pretty legendary. It's kind of something like one of
the top drum intros from songs that people. There's a
guitar in there too, obviously, but that whole drum, the
way it kicks off the song is pretty Uh, it's
pretty iconic. So it's cool that you that was one
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of the first things you learned to play.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, uh it's a banger man, you know, you
put that on you want to drive fast.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And yeah, you know, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
That's cool. Cool. So where does it go from next?
Then I guess you're still playing here? You got the
band matters of the mind. Did you see it going anywhere?
Or you didn't? Did you? People can of go from
the band came and came and went.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah it uh.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We we got a bass player couldn't really play bass
all that well. And then we were going to change
the name to Black Halo, which I actually just remembered
because my the singer and I reconnected a couple of
years ago and he actually had some cassette tapes of
us playing in my garage, oh wow, which was amazing. Yeah,
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but I totally forgot about the name changed. And then
shortly after that I found out he was talking to
my girlfriend at the time. So that whole thing imploded,
and those guys went and formed another band, and I was.
I played with another like group of guys in high school.
We call ourselves Closure. We did like a couple of
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gigs at the school and we did a talent show
and then wanted a coffeehouse, and then that was it
for that, but we just did covers. We didn't actually
write any songs or anything. And then straight out of
high school is when it like really kicked off for me,
because that's when Decimating Tomorrow was formed and kind of
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really propelled me into actually playing actual shows and writing
real music and trying to do the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Is this when you knew that you wanted to do
this full time, like instead of doing another job or
another career, like you want to be a career musician
at this time?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh, I knew that, like from the beginning, I mean
from when I was I mean probably even younger than ten.
But after seeing Kiss, I mean that was.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Just yeah, yeah, did your dad support that? Did he
tell you to do something else in case it didn't
work out, like a backup plan? Or was he one
hundred percent behind you on it?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know, they were.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They were supportive to an extent. And I don't mean
that as a dig because my parents are great, but
they you know, we're from a small town. You know,
you grow up from Brazil to high school, you go
to college, you go get a job, and then you're there,
you know. So I had to go to college and
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get a degree and get a job and then if
the music thing took off, then you know that was
you know, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But yeah, like a plan B or a Plan A,
and music was your Plan B. They wanted to make
sure you had a backup, right for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And you know, if I could go back, I would
I would totally do it different, knowing what I know now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But you know, the Internet wasn't what it is now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What year are we talking just for clarity.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This is like early to mid two thousands.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, So it was just you know, people figuring it out,
like what was it? Like email was a big thing obviously,
maybe what maybe my Space wasn't there yet kind of thing.
Like it was just really social media wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I mean Facebook was.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
We know of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Really in its infancy, Like you know, I had to
ask somebody you know, for a link to be able
to get on to Facebook because you have a college student.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's more for students. It wasn't the porn site that
it is now. It's and it was actual thing. It
was actual fate like a yearbook. That's what was based
on it. If I think I remember correctly, it is
based on like a yearbook. Your Facebook of all your
college whatever friends. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, it was a great idea in the beginning, and
now it's just a giant ad machine.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, it's amazing, but it does. It does do wonders
for certain things too, like connecting us, connecting other people
to your music. Did you what was your other job
that you had if you don't mind saying, like when
you first came out of high school, like what were
you actually doing?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So my first job that I got I was I
was still technically fifteen. I worked in McDonald's for a while,
and then I worked at a restaurant as a dishwasher,
and then I worked at Kroger.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Do you have Kroger up there?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, we have similar stores, but.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah it's a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. You know, I'm a trader Joe's type of thing everything.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, gotcha. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And actually I lost my job at Kroger because it
was decimating tomorrow's first show and I left early and
I didn't tell the right people apparently, so when I
went back to work the next day, they were like,
(24:50):
you quit your job.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'm like, no, that's not what happened. And they're like, no,
that's what happened. See you later.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Quids you left early. Nice, yeah, but you know for
rock and roll. So then after that's a rock and
roll story for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
After high school, I work construction for a little bit
and then I have an automotive degree. So then I
started working in you know, dealerships and doing that thing
and figuring out that I didn't want to do that
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's cool. But that helps support I guess,
your career in a band, right, because it's not cheap
and it's not free, right. You got to pay for
certain things, pay for your equipment, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, any charges like that. Drums are the most expensive
instrument I think.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To play, you know, because you don't just have a
guitar and an amp and a cable.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And some picks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You have drumheads and drums and hardware and symbols and
you know, seats and pedals. And it's crazy. I don't
know how people do it now. I mean, stuff is
just so outrageously high.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, exactly, and it's not easy to move around to
you gotta be careful with it. When little thing falls
or breaks is not going to sound the same. It's
it's a whole house. So it's it's cool to have.
They're great to listen to. Obviously, it's good. It's good
to be a musician. It's good to be a drummer.
But I mean when something breaks and goes wrong, it's
very frustrating. I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, And you know, luckily my parents were very cool.
We we pretty much took over our living room with
band gear and practice. You know, there would there would
be nights I would get off work at Kroger and
the band would already be warming up waiting for me
to get there. So it's so it all worked out.
(26:43):
But yeah, I mean if I had to haul my
drums back and.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Forth to rehearsal space, yeah, that'd be uh, that'd be yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, I'm too old for that now.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well now yeah, now you can just do it in
your store too. I just play for people right there
actually walking watch out for the drums.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm actually working on getting a kit set up in
the back so I can get more practicing in.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, So
fractured mirror that comes along way later. That's the serious
band that comes way later. But tell me about small
roads that head that way.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, So with decimating tomorrow. I hooked up with a
guy that was a year older than me in high
school just a He's a brilliant guitar player, great songwriter,
you know, good singer. He has no idea what he's doing, though,
which is frustrating because he could just pick anything up
(27:35):
and play it. You know, I really have to like
work at my craft. So and then so we were
we were jamming one day and then like in our neighborhood,
if the windows are open or whatever, you could hear everywhere.
So then another friend of mine that graduated with me
came over and he's like, I'm going to join the band.
(27:56):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the singer. And it's like,
I don't think so, man, I think you need to
like play bass or something. So he went out and
like found a bass.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And have you did you hear his that's wait, sorry,
that's whine? Did you hear his voice? And thought he
couldn't sing and said he should do something else or
or need a singer.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, No, I wasn't a believer that he was gonna
be a lead singer. He just.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Like if I tried to sing kind of like that,
you could have I mean, yeah, well I could, but
I don't. You need to play bass or something that's
hilarious should be a line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But yeah, and he did it so and it was awesome.
You know, we.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Played a ton of shows, you know, late O six,
all the way through seven, and then some things happened
and we played a couple of shows here and there,
you know, eight and nine, and then we got another
guitar player, which was kind of unfortunate because we kind
of lost, you know something with doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The new guy was was a good player.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But we played all through twenty eleven, you know, played
a ton of shows, playing bars and you know, venues
around here, and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, then that imploded as well.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So how did you feel about that? Like losing people
coming and going all the time, like you're trying to
figure it out and get it something stable and stay.
I won't stay. You can't control that. But how did
you feel about it? Did you feel like they were
giving up and thinking, oh, Matt, this is I can't
get people to stay here, can't make it happen.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
No, I never really thought about giving up, and that's
that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I just I've never quit playing music.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like I know, people, even the people in Fractured Mirror,
those guys, you know, they take these long, extended breaks
from playing with people, Like there hasn't been a very
long period of time where I have not been playing
music with another band. I just keep going until you know,
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something else comes along or something else happens.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It's just never been an option to not play, so
at least not for me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, but it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Definitely sucked, you know, not having you know, the original
guys there. I mean that's that's a you know, pretty
standard story with bands. But you know it's like, well
this guy's you know, not feeling it. We'll just get
somebody else to do it, and we'll just push forward
and you know, keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So that's good because it could have been a breaking
point at any point right where you said, like you
I love playing drums. I'm going to keep doing that,
but I'm going to do it in another way. Trying
to form a band. People are instane. It could have
led to frustration and just you know, changing course. But
he kept on with it, right sure.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, And you know I've told myself a lot like oh,
I need a break, I need to I need to
step away from this, I.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Need to do this, I need to do that, and
it just it just sucks you back in, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, I was kind of feeling, you know, with with
Tupunk Chump, my Louisville band, I was feeling some fatigue
because we were playing a lot, uh and it was
you know, it was mostly covers at that point, and uh,
which this is later. I guess we can get to
it later.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
But I can't hear that name enough though, So say,
as much as you want this interview, it's gonna be
great to find a way to sneak that in.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
We we just recorded a video last a week ago
for our song trailer Park Love, and we did it
in a trailer park.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Uh course, it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't think i've I can't wait to hear you know.
I don't think i'vectually heard any of your two Pump
Chump music. I know I've heard about Fractured Mirror all
the time. I keep getting songs from that, which is great,
But I don't think you got to send me some
two Pump Chump.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I will.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, we we've got a newly recorded version of trailer
Park that we're using for the video, so I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Send you that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah. I got to see that and hear that, and.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I was I was working on some another. We've got
a couple other songs too. Some of them are pretty.
They can be kind of runching. We're like the PG
thirteen Steel Panthers.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was just going to say the steel Panther, but
you call this yeah, yeah, that's cool. I want to
hear it all.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Way yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So yeah, after after Decimating Tomorrow split I I actually
I got recommended to another band from somebody and that's
where I met Hank Stitzel, who just played with Fractured
(33:05):
Mirror at our last show. But we were in a
band called red Zilla with a female lead singer for
a while and that was cool, nice, did some fun stuff,
and then I moved to Louisville and things got kind
of weird with that. So that's kind of when the
(33:26):
two punk thing comes in.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's a band you joined, right, they're already established or
doing something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, so they've been around. All the guys are older
than me.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They've been around I think since ninety nine or two
thousand something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But they were an all original band, you know, just
roughing it out, and then they finally, you know, got
tired of that and they just wanted to have some fun.
So they said we're gonna We're gonna be a cover band,
and the drummer wasn't having that, and they wanted to
(34:04):
get rid of the drummer anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So it all worked out. And it's funny.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know, I've never really used Craigslist all that much,
but when I moved to Louisville, I was like, I
just need to find a cover band so I can
keep playing while I'm down here, because I was only
going to be there for three years, and you know,
just keep my chops up and go have fun and
make some money. And I put an ad on Craigslist,
(34:32):
and I think the only person that responded to it
was the guitar player from Tupump. And you know, I've
been with them since twenty fourteen now.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, well over ten years. Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, it's crazy. I did take a like a two
year hiatus.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Where I only played a couple of shows as a
fill in, but other than that, I mean, you know,
those guys have been like long lost brothers to me
ever since then.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So that's cool. Did you did you go to Louisville
to pursue other opportunities with bands or to find something
new or is it just for something else?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
So my uh, my girlfriend was she had to work
there for her job for three years and then she
was contracted to come back to this area, okay, you
know for four years and that was nine years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So and now I have the store.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So yeah, it's a big Cardybury. I can't wait to
talk about that too. The uh yeah, Iipoles Records.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So Fractured Mirror, Where does that finally come in? Because
that's the band obviously that you're known for now that
I know you from, and that's I believe there's a
stable lineup in there too. So when did you finally
get some I guess stability in your life?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You would think.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So there's more to it you can tell me. I
want to know. I don't know all your stories. So
this is a good fill in the.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is uh, this will be an exclusive for you.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So yeah, Fractured Mirror. So we'll back up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
The the New Year's Eve between like twenty nineteen going
into twenty to twenty, so right before the world.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Ended right before they went to hell.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I told the guys a Tupump, Hey, you know,
I'm done playing these, you know, ten to two am gigs,
you know, because I was driving back and forth from
tiro Believe a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And were they well attended at least? Did you actually
play for a bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah. We did a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean we played a Packers Steelers preseason game at Heinesfield.
We opened for Sebastian Bach and Texas Hippy Coalition and nice.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, a lot of fun stuff and it was it
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
It was just wearing on me, and you know, I
was just playing the same stuff over and over and
I was like, I really want to get into.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
An original project.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So early twenty twenty, I'm done with Tupump for the moment.
I joined this band called Starve the Beast, which is
a a like an industrial ish hard rock type thing.
And I had to play to a click track with
with backing tracks, and so it was gonna be really cool.
It was going to like really force me to, you know,
(37:35):
step out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, songs were.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Good, singer was good, you know, band was really good.
But then the world went to shut down. They were
based out of Indianapolis, so I was driving like an
hour back and forth to do that. So that all
kind of ended with COVID. And then so towards the
(38:00):
end of twenty twenty, I got with Dustin Burriss, who
is my He's like the He's the James Hetfield to
my my Lars Rich.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's the gene to my Paul or whatever. I want to.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Play music with that dude for the rest of my life.
But I, you know, I told him, you know, we
need to get something going. So we started working together
again because he was in Red Zilla with me, and
then we got Hank Stitzel in there, and so we
we had two guitar players. We didn't really know who
(38:40):
was going to sing, and then we came up with
the name Fractured Mirror. I I designed the logo, which
is I think is super cool.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It is not just saying that because you're sitting right here. Yeah, yeah,
but it's all right. I don't like it so much,
but we're stuck with it. We're using it. This logo. Yeah,
it doesn't mean anything now, but we're stuck with it. It
makes a lot of money, right, Yeah, it feels like
it was getting serious at this time, like you've been,
like we talked about a few minutes ago, like you
(39:12):
were with a bunch of different people in a bunch
of different bands, and people would come and go. But
it seems like when you met these guys, it seemed
like there was an actual deeper connection beyond the music,
Like you guys like you like these people like it
seems like a connection was finally made. Am I right
about that?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Sure, I mean I definitely had that early on in DT,
but I really hadn't had anything as far as original
music goes.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Like that since then.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
So it was, you know, like I said, me, Dustin
and Hank, we we decided that Hank needed to go
for a while, so we Gotankey Middleton to play bass,
(40:02):
and then John Hanlon came in as a singer and
guitar player, who, you know, just a phenomenal guitar player,
has riffs for days, and it just all just meshed,
you know, and for the most part, everybody was on
the same page with everything and the vision of actually
(40:26):
doing it, you know, because those guys are a little
older than me.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I just turned thirty seven, which is rough young.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Dustin and John I think are
around your age, maybe a little older.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, dirt, Yeah what did you get here? Boy?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah? Yeah, that's how it always is.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
But yeah, so we uh, you know, we did the
first EP, which I was really proud of.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You know, I had never We recorded all of it in.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
My house, you know, we figured out how.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
To do all that.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Then we put out a single and it sounded better
than the EP, and then we did Fractured Mirror two,
which sounded even better than that, and we were kind
of moving towards a more classic.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Rock sound, yeah, yeah, more so than the heavier metal
undertone of the first EP.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't remember where I jumped in on that, to
be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I think you were on.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The first one because you played Recluse, which is the
opening track on.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
The first one, okay, which is a pretty popular song
amongst the people that you know that listen.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So yeah, because I assume you met Kevin probably on
one of the cruises, right, and that's when he passed
your band onto me.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But one of the cruises or after, yeah, yeah, because
I was on Kiss Cruise five through.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Eleven, okay, And so yeah, I mean they're pretty early on.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
So, yeah, freak bigger than you. What's that I kiss?
Freak bigger than you?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I don't know, man, I'm I'm pretty pretty hardcore. I've
seen them.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
You guys should have a kiss off. I got to
see that.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, person, you have a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No he doesn't, so then okay, so there you go.
He lost, You got him? You win that boy don't
have any tattoos but a nerd loser loser square. Yeah
he lost, maybe you still will. We'll see. We get
it right on his forehead. He's got that bald head
(42:52):
that I got right on top of his head, big
old kiss logo. I mean, branded that'd be perfectly convinced
something drunk one night, get it on him.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
It sucks that this isn't gonna be video because I'm
pretty sure i'm cutting all my hair off.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Man. Well i'll have the video. I mean, it's just
because my yours looks perfect. It's mine. That just it
looks like it's, i don't know, like some cheap ass.
Remember those old webcams from the late nineties early too, Yeah,
that's how it looks. I don't know if you can
see it, but it's blurry as fuck. It's a brand
new computer. Weird, it's messed up like yours is perfect,
it'd be, it's not. It's not broadcast quality. So I'm
(43:28):
not using it for that reason. But talk about some
clips online though. There'll still be some clips I could
probably add to kind of add to it or kind
of tease it. So maybe I'll use a couple of
clips and you'll get well, get so you're cutting your
hair off. You're gonna cut it like completely short.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah. So we you know, when we did the video.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
For Trailer Park last week, we were out in the
blazing sun for five hours straight.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I had to be in every shot. Ah, and you know.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
My hair like when it gets hot, it just starts expanding.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Mine was doing that too hard to believe back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, true, it's a ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
The community would make it go crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
And then we played outside Thursday night and you know,
it had rained and the humidity was just insane, and
I was like, yeah, this is the last.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Run with it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I'm gonna the end of an era. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I've had it for about five years, I think, and
it's it's time to let it go.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
For the moment.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So well, that's it. Really, I'm surprised I would have
saw you having that most of your teenage years into
now kind of Oh no.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Man, Yeah I had. There was a time in high
school where I started to let it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Get long and then my you know, my grandma really
hated it and me at the time.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Hair Yeah, she offered me like fifty dollars to cut.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It nice the price of a hard cut. Yeah, I'll
pay for your haircut.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah. But yeah, I grew it out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Around twenty thirteen and then I just cut it. You know,
I was always always had short hair.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And wow, that's interesting. Well I can't wait to see that.
It's going to be a new look, but it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I'll be in my load era.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I get some mirrors, get
some makeup, get some guyliner, going.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
This is gonna be awesome. Yeah. So I'll definitely keep
some of the video for this then, like I said, end.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Of an era, Yeah for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So we're counting down on minutarrey, I got about five
minutes left, so there's obviously lots to talk about. We
can do this again more intense of it more in
a deeper conversation, but so fractured mirror what it is
right now as far as doing things, do you still
have the same guys in it? Did things change there?
Tell me a little bit about more fraction, Mary before
I have to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Okay, so fractured. We just played a show a couple
of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We ended up getting a fill in bass player, which
was Hank, who was originally the guitar player. And we
are we've been talking about this for a while. We
are going to be on the hunt for a lead
singer slash frontman. If they could play guitar, that's fantastic.
(46:20):
If not, that's also cool. You know, we can deal
with that. But we just we want to We need
someone who can command the crowd and the stage and
and do that. We need like a Steven Tyler, you
know type of.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Thinge of thing yea, which is not easy to find.
I mean, there's a million people out there can copy
Steven Tyler, but you want your own thing. You want
your own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
And I'm not saying necessarily you know, sound like Steven Tyler,
but that type of thing. So yeah, I don't know
what what's gonna happen with that? But Dustin and I
are going to keep working on things regardless. Dustin and
Hank have another project they're working on some to try
and help them with that.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Because you're a former or I guess current singer. Is
he out then or what's happening with with that? I
don't know, or he wants to be out. You don't
say whatever you want. You don't have to want to know.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
The plan was to have him just play guitar.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh, he's still gonna be in the band then just
playing guitar and not singing.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, as as of right now, Yeah, that's I think
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Do you sing at all?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I can sing?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
And I have saying before, it's not something I want
to do all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I would be okay with doing a song or two like.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
What singer does or what what's his name from night
Ranger there, Kelly, anything like that who just do things
on the st or don't do everything right. They're not
the many, but they also sing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, I could do one or two songs that would
be fine, But it's a lot to play drums and
sing lead vocals and you know I don't I don't
play soft. You know, I beat the ship out of
the drums all the time.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
So Bontnham guy, you're the Franken Binally guy. Yes, rank
p Yeah, I know how much you love and we
talked about that many times on Paradise City too. So
so good. Your love of Frankie is very prevalent.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
But yeah, and then, uh, you know we're doing new
two punk chump songs. I was working on recording one today, so.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, just uh, you know, busy all the time, man.
And then you know the store.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
We didn't even talk about the store. There was less
than two minutes left. I mean, so just tell me
where people in the store. Where you're out of your
physical location obviously in Tera ho where can people can
they buy online as well too, all over the world, Like,
tell me about the store real quick.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, So I've got a I've got a physical brick
and mortar record store in Tera Hope. Anyone can message me,
and you know I'd be happy to ship stuff. You know,
you can message me on Facebook. Everything is at Cycles Records.
I've got Instagram. I'm really good about using Facebook. Instagram
(49:15):
is a close second. And then you know, I have,
you know, a Twitter account and a TikTok for the sword,
but I don't. It's it's tough for me to get
all that stuff in there, you know, everything else.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So and the Fracture Mirror can they find connect and
connect on the same place as too?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, everything is that Fractured Mirror band. I believe you know.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
We're on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Music, YouTube Music, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And actually I just released three tracks from Decimating Tomorrow
that we're never finished, but they still sound really good
for not being finished.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
That's all out on stream as well.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
So well, we're going to do a part two because
there's a lot to dig into with the Ciples records too.
So if you're done with that, you're gonna come back
and we'll connect the part two. Hell yeah, awesome, Brett,
Thanks for chatting, man, we'll talk soon, okay, brother.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Hi buddy, Thank you man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I appreciate you too. Also, as a side note,
I want to give a shout out to Kevin Matthews
who picked me up and rescued me when I was
stranded with the car in the parking lot. At two
in the morning, he brought me home safe and soundly.
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twenty fourteen beautiful Chevrolet Bruce car, has been a fixture
in my life for well since twenty fourteen, long before
I had a podcast, long before I had anything online,
long before I had Paradvice, City Lawn, before Nobody's radio station.
It was always a Chevrolet Bruise and me and I
got my family around, I got my ass around, It
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got me everywhere I needed to go, for the most part.
And say what you want about Chevy car, Chevy cruises specifically,
they don't make them anymore. They don't make them like
they used to. It's not about that. It's about my
love with this car. It's a car I didn't expect
to have, but was happy when I did. And it
was my next car after my very first car, which
was a two thousand and three Saturn Eye on picking
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Great Cars, Chad. But yeah, I'm not a car guy,
as you can see, and you're gonna hear about. But
I really enjoyed this car. Chevrolet Bruce became synonymous with
me in the podcast. And she's been under a lot
of repairs, and she's had a lot of work done,
as you can imagine, and it's been costly affairs to
keep the old girl on the road. Right now, it
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may amaze you to know that she has got it
about last count four hundred and eighty two thousand, seven
hundred and fifty six. I want to say kilometers. I
don't know how many miles that is. I think it's
almost three hundred thousand miles. Could be off by a
few hundred thousand miles, but it's a lot of miles
on her and I've been glad to put them all
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and she's happily accepted them all, and she still purrs
like a kitten. But many little things have broken down.
Nothing major like the motor obviously, and transmission knock on wood,
but little things coolant repairs, brakes obviously, general general maintenance,
you know, tires, and replacements of water pumps and heating pumps,
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cooling pumps, fuel filters, you know, oil filters, oil pan gaskets.
I have a litany of items here that it's been
replaced on the car, and actually this is no different.
So basically I'll cut to the chase. She's off the
road again, but this time might be for the final time.
Again for the third time, her coolant system will probably
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need to be replaced. The hose and the fan radiator
fan have gone, and this will be the second time
I've made coolant either the reservoir or the whole coolant system.
Cooling system has been replaced, I think twice at this point.
Here as we sit in twenty twenty five, the third
day of July twenty twenty five. And again, for people
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who know me and know about the podcast, I know
about the podcast. One of my biggest, you know, joys
in life is doing uber eats, you know, because my
life is going so well, and I enjoy doing this
as a you know, a side hustle pastime and you know,
gets my creative juices flowing, driving around at night, relaxing,
just you know, taking in the scenes of the local
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city outside the city I live in, and I just
enjoy the autonomy of it, anatomy of autonomy of it,
and I enjoy just the like the driving aspect gets
me a lot of creative focus for what I do
here on the podcast too. So the Cruise has gone
down to a faulty coolant system again, and it's a
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big ask, it's a big replace, and I don't think
I'm gonna be able to make it this time. And
it didn't help matters either, because my car was overheating
while waiting for my beloved McDonald's coffee one night, while
picking up another Uber order, and it was starting to overheat,
not going into the complete red, but you know, when
it goes past the temperature limit, it's always a you know,
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wt WTF moment, Like it's all the problems I've had
with the coolant cooling system of the car overheating for
the last eleven years. I've I watched that temperature dial
like like a hawk. I'm always on it, always looking
at it. I'm always worried it's gonna move. I always
checked to see did it move, did it move, did
it go? Is it going up? Is it going down?
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That's never happened, but I'm always I'm always on it,
and I wasn't looking that I noticed it starts to
go into the words the red I'm like, what is
going on? Now? Pull over into the parking lot of
where I'm gonna be picking up food Barbarrito Mexican Burrito place.
Shut her off, and I feel like it's happened in
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the past. I have coolant in the back. I want to,
you know, maybe top it up. But here's the trick, folks.
You gotta wait, like they say, before you put or
check your coolant reservoir, make sure the car has been
off for a decent period of time. And I know this,
but I'm impatient, and I'm worried, and I got to
pick up this call. I don't want to get moving.
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I don't want to waste my night. Let's throw some
coolant in and let's get going. That's not the case. Yes,
I waited, No, I didn't wait long enough. Now, if
you've had this happen or know what happens, it's pressurized.
You want to wait till the car obviously depressurize as
cool as down as it were before you start opening
big you know, valves and lids. And it wasn't cooled
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off enough. Now I'm okay, I didn't get burnt. It's
very hot. You don't want that stuff splashing on you
could be third or fifteen hundred degree burns. If you
do never let that touch your skin, you will die.
You will be disfigured. So once I turned the valve,
the pressure that you could hear that. You know when
you open like a you shake a coke bottle and
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it's under pressure and you know it's going to explode. Well,
it's like that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I didn't open it all the way, didn't have to.
It's under so much pressure. It just blew the cap off,
spraying the total under the hood, motor hoses, battery, everything
with coolant because that's what's in the coolant reservoir everywhere.
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I'm fine, I'm a little pissed at myself. Obviously, stupid move, ice,
stupid move and all that. To say it wasn't out
of coolant. It's another problem anyway. I mean I could
have handled that if it was low on coolant. How
it wouldn't have done that. Obviously, if it had no
coolant or low on coolant, it wouldn't have been so much.
But it was like it was a full load. It
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was a full mother load of coolant. So it was
definitely full of coolant. It's not that it's as of
course as I bring it to the garage. It's very
expensive hourly cost pirate highway robbing dealerships charging complete utter
highway robbery of prices for their labor quote unquote their
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high intentsive labor. Which hey, I'm not saying that garages
don't do, you know, hard work or some jobs aren't
harder than others, but I mean some of the labor costs,
you know, you can you can be flexible with that,
and some places just they get you coming and going right,
they mark up the price because you're stuck, especially when
you get a tow job you have to get you're
stuck at that's you know, specific dealership because that's where
I'm covered to go by my triple A or whatever
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you want to call it. Yeah, you're kind of stuck.
So I could have handled if it was just coolant.
But it's of course a radiator, which is what they
told me it was, and uh yeah, the radiator fan
and a hose was cracked prior to what I did.
Obviously this is why the car was overheating. But it's
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a high price to pay for a car part that
I've replaced several times. For a car that's over eleven
years in counting older, with a car that's well over
the four hundred and fifty thousand kilometers mark. I'd love
to have got it to five hundred thousand. I mean
I still could. I mean I could find the money,
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dig it out, ask for a GoFundMe, find all kinds
of ways to make that bank, to make that payment,
to make that bread, to pay that car. But should
I do it? Should I pull the trigger and get
a new car, a transition car, if you will, because
that's all I'm looking for right now. If I did
move on to another vehicle, just a transition car, I'll
get my dream car, you know, some kind of clown car.
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I'll get my dream clown car down the road. I
just need to keep myself on the road for now.
And hey, full transparency. Pay massive debts that I had
that I again, I put myself in, but they need
to be paid. And I'm working hard of doing that.
And I need not be temporarily, very very consistently being
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put off the road by a car that's just you know,
tired and older and has served me well. And should
I get her back on the road, would continue, would
continue to serve me well. But there comes a time
when you must move on and let things go, and
maybe the time is here, I don't know. But what
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I will never let go of is my love for
the Chevy Bruise, my love for her and all she's
gotten me through, and my love of doing podcast and
this podcast. Nobody's are somebody's podcast specifically. Hey, when you
talk about podcast, Chad, can you say that Nobody's are
somebody's podcast specifically? So you know what's about me? Yes,
I hear you. So that's what I'm doing here, and
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I'm having a long awaited conversation with my friend, a
guy I've never actually met in real life, but one
day I hope to. But I was introduced to by
the wonderful brother from another broken Rubber, Kevin Matthews, who
met this guy Brad Sipels on the Kiss Cruises several
Kiss Cruises, who plays in a bit called Fractured Mirror,
And that's how I met him online, but through this channel,
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as he passed on music to my show, The New
Rock Show, which is coming back. If you follow me,
you know what that's about. But I wanted Brett's human story.
I wanted to know about where he started, not just
him as a musician, but where he grew up, which
is not Terre Haute, Indiana, which is where I thought
that's where he lives now. But we of course uncover
all sorts of nuggets of information and get to know Brett.
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And that's my job here, and that's what I do
for you, is bring people who you may not know
about hear their human life stories, because that's what this
is about, and that's what you know doing these conversations
are for That's what I get out of them, and
I hope you do too as well when you listen.
So thank you so much for supporting the podcast and
listening when you do. This is only part one of
my conversation with Brett, because there's a whole bunch more,
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like his record store that he opened, Cyples Records in
Tara Hate, which is one of maybe two or three
maybe I think it's only the second record store Hate,
So didn't even get to cover that, didn't even scratch
the service on that. So we're gonna do a part
two for sure, but this is part one. I've rambled
on enough. Now it's time to let Brett put on
his talking and shoes and have a great conversation. Thanks
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Brett for doing this, Thanks Kevin Matthews for bringing him
to me, and thank you for listening to the Nobasers
Somebody's podcast. Follow it on Facebook, on Instagram, email me
chadvice at sebcamco dot com, s E B C A
M c O. Visit the website sebcamco dot com and
interact with me there, suggest a guest or be a
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guest yourself. I want to hear it, by it, and
don't forget to check out Brett on Cyples Records at
his website, which he'll share with you, and as well
his band Fractured Mirror, where he has it on Instagram,
on Facebook, on his website, which he'll share with you
at the end of this episode. So enough talking, let's
start rocking. This is Brett's story recording him progress. There
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you go. See whenever I press record, Now I can
see your screen bigger, so I can actually see more detail.
Because before you're just like a little square. I can
see you and kind of the picture. Now I can
see it like legit weird, beautiful, weird times. All right,
let's kick this off. I have no introess for this show.
I just do it. So here we go, Brett ciples
is here with me, and this is your life, my friend.
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I can't wait to hear about your whole life, your
whole career. I hope you have your talking shoes on.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I hope so too.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be great. So for those of you
who don't know, and for you who may now remember,
we connected over our mutual friend Kevin Matthews, Kevin Ganley.
So he got me in touch with you from your
band Fractured Mirror, and I played some of your songs
on the New Rock show I had that I have
that's coming back. But that's how I connected with you.
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But your story starts a long time before that, man
growing up in Tera Hoae, Indiana. I want to hear
about basically how you even just I had to step
into playing drums telling about a young Brett, What influenced
him the most? And where did you start?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So, I actually grew up in a town in a
town called Brazil, Indiana, which is like twenty minutes away
from Tara Hope. But when you say I'm from Brazil,
people look at you funny.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And you know, they're like, ah, you speak English really well,
you know.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I should keep that going for as long as
you can. Every time that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So on the on Kiss Cruise five, I played on
the pool deck. They had this almost famous contest and
Eric Singer was introducing everybody, and so, you know, everybody's like,
I'm from you know, Chile, and I'm from Canada, and
everybody's like yelling and like I'm from Brazil and everybody
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started screaming, and I was like Indiana and like two
people you know you. So Eric was like, are you
serious right now, I'm like, yeah, it's a real yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
But anyways, I love that hilarious.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, it was a good time.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So you know, my my dad was a Kiss fan.
Uh so he had Kiss Meets the Phantom taped off
of TV, like complete with commercials and everything. And then
I've also had the Animalized Tour uncensored, you know, Live
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n Censored taped off of m TV.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
So it was kind of a.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Shorter version of that too. But I just I grew
up watching those, like from the time that I.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Could watch TV. I you know, I had Superhero.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Kiss and then I had like badass Eric Carr, Bruce Kulick,
you know, just shred and kiss.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Did your dad show it to you or did he
say like, hey watch this, or you just happened to
be in the room and he was watching it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't I don't remember. I think, you know, we
just he just put it on and we just watched
it nice.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And then it got to the point where I was
taking the tapes and that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To watch, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So, and my dad used to play drums. He didn't
play drums when I was growing up, but I but
I knew that, and then watching Eric Carr, I was like,
I have to play the drums. So I I just
begged and begged for a kid forever, and then I
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finally got one on my thirteenth birthday, which was just
a cheap, no name, you know, piece of junk.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But I still have it and it actually sounds good.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So you're still play it on stage?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, I played it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So I like rewrapped it and you know, put really
good heads on it and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And I actually played it a couple of times a
few years ago.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So nice, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It works, It works just fine.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, that's cool. That's good to hear.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
But yeah, that's kind of how kind of how the
drone things started. But you know, I saw my we
we grew up listening to a lot of like nineties
country because it was so hot at the time. Like, yeah,
my sister was a huge Alan Jackson fan, and so
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we went to see him a couple of times when
I was young. But then I got to see Kiss
in ninety eight, the last time they were here in
Terror Hope, and you know that changed my life. I
was ten, and you know it was just on from there.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, for sure, that was the Psycho circus. I guess
shows and tours and everything. Yeah, that was a good
time back then. Yeah, that was the original band.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Every time I got to see the full original band
in makeup.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, before everything changed and that's cool. And then from
there did you just start playing in bands or like
did you just play at home? Did you like how
did it kind of like where did it go from there?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So when I got my kit, we my dad could
like you know, he could just afford the kit and
like it came with some junkie hardware and we had
a family friend that had some old symbols in their barn,
so we ended up going and getting those. I came home,
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I set it up and I said, hey, Dad, show
me how to play the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Beat to Detroit Rock City.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So he showed me real quick, and then I put
in smashed his thrashes and hits, and then I just
started playing along and then so that's how I taught myself,
was just playing along to kiss songs.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You know, found a couple of guys in uh, you know,
probably late in middle school, early high school, and started
you know, playing with them.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know, I think one of the first songs I
ever played with another band was I Hate to Say
I Told You So by the Hives.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Okay, nice, kind of a random thing, but yeah, yeah,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah. And then you know, from there, like we I
was in. My first real band was called Matters of
the Mind and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You know, straight out of high school. Yeah, absolutely, that's
actually a cool name.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, we had a cool logo, and you know, we
never really had an official bass player, so it's just me,
a guitar player and a singer. But we recorded two
songs onto. I don't even know how we did it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sounds like Molly Crue.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, we did it like with like a boombox and
a microphone, and then we somehow got them transferred to
a CD and then like sold them at school for
like two dollars or something.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, that's pretty cool, like early promoter, early promotion, managing
the band, selling the merged kind of thing right out
of high school. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Have another guitar player now that I think about it,
but like his mom, who is actually my tax lady now,
she didn't want him like hanging out with not necessarily me,
but the other two guys, So he wasn't a part
of the demo.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The bad band influence. You guys use some crazy rockers
and the things you might get up to. It's back
influence on my son.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
You mentioned the Troy Rock City as something you learned
as an intro. That intro itself, that drum intro itself
is pretty legendary. It's kind of something like one of
the top drum intros from songs that people. There's a
guitar in there too, obviously, but that whole drum, the
way it kicks off the song is pretty Uh, it's
pretty iconic. So it's cool that you that was one
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of the first things you learned to play.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, uh it's a banger man, you know, you
put that on you want to drive fast.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And yeah, you know, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
That's cool. Cool. So where does it go from next?
Then I guess you're still playing here? You got the
band matters of the mind. Did you see it going anywhere?
Or you didn't? Did you? People can of go from
the band came and came and went.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah it uh.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
We we got a bass player couldn't really play bass
all that well. And then we were going to change
the name to Black Halo, which I actually just remembered
because my the singer and I reconnected a couple of
years ago and he actually had some cassette tapes of
us playing in my garage, oh wow, which was amazing. Yeah,
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but I totally forgot about the name changed. And then
shortly after that I found out he was talking to
my girlfriend at the time. So that whole thing imploded,
and those guys went and formed another band, and I was.
I played with another like group of guys in high school.
We call ourselves Closure. We did like a couple of
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gigs at the school and we did a talent show
and then wanted a coffeehouse, and then that was it
for that, but we just did covers. We didn't actually
write any songs or anything. And then straight out of
high school is when it like really kicked off for me,
because that's when Decimating Tomorrow was formed and kind of
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really propelled me into actually playing actual shows and writing
real music and trying to do the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Is this when you knew that you wanted to do
this full time, like instead of doing another job or
another career, like you want to be a career musician
at this time?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh, I knew that, like from the beginning, I mean
from when I was I mean probably even younger than ten.
But after seeing Kiss, I mean that was.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Just yeah, yeah, did your dad support that? Did he
tell you to do something else in case it didn't
work out, like a backup plan? Or was he one
hundred percent behind you on it?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know, they were.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They were supportive to an extent. And I don't mean
that as a dig because my parents are great, but
they you know, we're from a small town. You know,
you grow up from Brazil to high school, you go
to college, you go get a job, and then you're there,
you know. So I had to go to college and
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get a degree and get a job and then if
the music thing took off, then you know that was
you know, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But yeah, like a plan B or a Plan A,
and music was your Plan B. They wanted to make
sure you had a backup, right for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And you know, if I could go back, I would
I would totally do it different, knowing what I know now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But you know, the Internet wasn't what it is now.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What year are we talking just for clarity.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This is like early to mid two thousands.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, So it was just you know, people figuring it out,
like what was it? Like email was a big thing obviously,
maybe what maybe my Space wasn't there yet kind of thing.
Like it was just really social media wasn't there?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I mean Facebook was.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
We know of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Really in its infancy, Like you know, I had to
ask somebody you know, for a link to be able
to get on to Facebook because you have a college student.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's more for students. It wasn't the porn site that
it is now. It's and it was actual thing. It
was actual fate like a yearbook. That's what was based
on it. If I think I remember correctly, it is
based on like a yearbook. Your Facebook of all your
college whatever friends. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, it was a great idea in the beginning, and
now it's just a giant ad machine.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, it's amazing, but it does. It does do wonders
for certain things too, like connecting us, connecting other people
to your music. Did you what was your other job
that you had if you don't mind saying, like when
you first came out of high school, like what were
you actually doing?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So my first job that I got I was I
was still technically fifteen. I worked in McDonald's for a while,
and then I worked at a restaurant as a dishwasher,
and then I worked at Kroger.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Do you have Kroger up there?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, we have similar stores, but.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah it's a grocery store.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah. You know, I'm a trader Joe's type of thing everything.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, gotcha. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And actually I lost my job at Kroger because it
was decimating tomorrow's first show and I left early and
I didn't tell the right people apparently, so when I
went back to work the next day, they were like,
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you quit your job.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'm like, no, that's not what happened. And they're like, no,
that's what happened. See you later.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Quids you left early. Nice, yeah, but you know for
rock and roll. So then after that's a rock and
roll story for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
After high school, I work construction for a little bit
and then I have an automotive degree. So then I
started working in you know, dealerships and doing that thing
and figuring out that I didn't want to do that
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's cool. But that helps support I guess,
your career in a band, right, because it's not cheap
and it's not free, right. You got to pay for
certain things, pay for your equipment, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, any charges like that. Drums are the most expensive
instrument I think.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To play, you know, because you don't just have a
guitar and an amp and a cable.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
And some picks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You have drumheads and drums and hardware and symbols and
you know, seats and pedals. And it's crazy. I don't
know how people do it now. I mean, stuff is
just so outrageously high.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, exactly, and it's not easy to move around to
you gotta be careful with it. When little thing falls
or breaks is not going to sound the same. It's
it's a whole house. So it's it's cool to have.
They're great to listen to. Obviously, it's good. It's good
to be a musician. It's good to be a drummer.
But I mean when something breaks and goes wrong, it's
very frustrating. I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, And you know, luckily my parents were very cool.
We we pretty much took over our living room with
band gear and practice. You know, there would there would
be nights I would get off work at Kroger and
the band would already be warming up waiting for me
to get there. So it's so it all worked out.
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But yeah, I mean if I had to haul my
drums back and.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Forth to rehearsal space, yeah, that'd be uh, that'd be yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, I'm too old for that now.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well now yeah, now you can just do it in
your store too. I just play for people right there
actually walking watch out for the drums.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm actually working on getting a kit set up in
the back so I can get more practicing in.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, So
fractured mirror that comes along way later. That's the serious
band that comes way later. But tell me about small
roads that head that way.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, So with decimating tomorrow. I hooked up with a
guy that was a year older than me in high
school just a He's a brilliant guitar player, great songwriter,
you know, good singer. He has no idea what he's doing, though,
which is frustrating because he could just pick anything up
(27:35):
and play it. You know, I really have to like
work at my craft. So and then so we were
we were jamming one day and then like in our neighborhood,
if the windows are open or whatever, you could hear everywhere.
So then another friend of mine that graduated with me
came over and he's like, I'm going to join the band.
(27:56):
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the singer. And it's like,
I don't think so, man, I think you need to
like play bass or something. So he went out and
like found a bass.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And have you did you hear his that's wait, sorry,
that's whine? Did you hear his voice? And thought he
couldn't sing and said he should do something else or
or need a singer.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, No, I wasn't a believer that he was gonna
be a lead singer. He just.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Like if I tried to sing kind of like that,
you could have I mean, yeah, well I could, but
I don't. You need to play bass or something that's
hilarious should be a line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
But yeah, and he did it so and it was awesome.
You know, we.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Played a ton of shows, you know, late O six,
all the way through seven, and then some things happened
and we played a couple of shows here and there,
you know, eight and nine, and then we got another
guitar player, which was kind of unfortunate because we kind
of lost, you know something with doing that.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
The new guy was was a good player.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But we played all through twenty eleven, you know, played
a ton of shows, playing bars and you know, venues
around here, and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, then that imploded as well.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
So how did you feel about that? Like losing people
coming and going all the time, like you're trying to
figure it out and get it something stable and stay.
I won't stay. You can't control that. But how did
you feel about it? Did you feel like they were
giving up and thinking, oh, Matt, this is I can't
get people to stay here, can't make it happen.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
No, I never really thought about giving up, and that's
that's kind of my thing.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I just I've never quit playing music.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Like I know, people, even the people in Fractured Mirror,
those guys, you know, they take these long, extended breaks
from playing with people, Like there hasn't been a very
long period of time where I have not been playing
music with another band. I just keep going until you know,
(30:09):
something else comes along or something else happens.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
It's just never been an option to not play, so
at least not for me.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, but it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Definitely sucked, you know, not having you know, the original
guys there. I mean that's that's a you know, pretty
standard story with bands. But you know it's like, well
this guy's you know, not feeling it. We'll just get
somebody else to do it, and we'll just push forward
and you know, keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So that's good because it could have been a breaking
point at any point right where you said, like you
I love playing drums. I'm going to keep doing that,
but I'm going to do it in another way. Trying
to form a band. People are instane. It could have
led to frustration and just you know, changing course. But
he kept on with it, right sure.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, And you know I've told myself a lot like oh,
I need a break, I need to I need to
step away from this, I.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Need to do this, I need to do that, and
it just it just sucks you back in, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, I was kind of feeling, you know, with with
Tupunk Chump, my Louisville band, I was feeling some fatigue
because we were playing a lot, uh and it was
you know, it was mostly covers at that point, and uh,
which this is later. I guess we can get to
it later.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
But I can't hear that name enough though, So say,
as much as you want this interview, it's gonna be
great to find a way to sneak that in.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
We we just recorded a video last a week ago
for our song trailer Park Love, and we did it
in a trailer park.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Uh course, it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I don't think i've I can't wait to hear you know.
I don't think i'vectually heard any of your two Pump
Chump music. I know I've heard about Fractured Mirror all
the time. I keep getting songs from that, which is great,
But I don't think you got to send me some
two Pump Chump.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I will.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, we we've got a newly recorded version of trailer
Park that we're using for the video, so I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Send you that.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah. I got to see that and hear that, and.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I was I was working on some another. We've got
a couple other songs too. Some of them are pretty.
They can be kind of runching. We're like the PG
thirteen Steel Panthers.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I was just going to say the steel Panther, but
you call this yeah, yeah, that's cool. I want to
hear it all.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Way yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So yeah, after after Decimating Tomorrow split I I actually
I got recommended to another band from somebody and that's
where I met Hank Stitzel, who just played with Fractured
(33:05):
Mirror at our last show. But we were in a
band called red Zilla with a female lead singer for
a while and that was cool, nice, did some fun stuff,
and then I moved to Louisville and things got kind
of weird with that. So that's kind of when the
(33:26):
two punk thing comes in.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
That's a band you joined, right, they're already established or
doing something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, so they've been around. All the guys are older
than me.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They've been around I think since ninety nine or two
thousand something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But they were an all original band, you know, just
roughing it out, and then they finally, you know, got
tired of that and they just wanted to have some fun.
So they said we're gonna We're gonna be a cover band,
and the drummer wasn't having that, and they wanted to
(34:04):
get rid of the drummer anyway.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So it all worked out. And it's funny.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know, I've never really used Craigslist all that much,
but when I moved to Louisville, I was like, I
just need to find a cover band so I can
keep playing while I'm down here, because I was only
going to be there for three years, and you know,
just keep my chops up and go have fun and
make some money. And I put an ad on Craigslist,
(34:32):
and I think the only person that responded to it
was the guitar player from Tupump. And you know, I've
been with them since twenty fourteen now.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, well over ten years. Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, it's crazy. I did take a like a two
year hiatus.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Where I only played a couple of shows as a
fill in, but other than that, I mean, you know,
those guys have been like long lost brothers to me
ever since then.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
So that's cool. Did you did you go to Louisville
to pursue other opportunities with bands or to find something
new or is it just for something else?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
So my uh, my girlfriend was she had to work
there for her job for three years and then she
was contracted to come back to this area, okay, you
know for four years and that was nine years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So and now I have the store.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So yeah, it's a big Cardybury. I can't wait to
talk about that too. The uh yeah, Iipoles Records.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So Fractured Mirror, Where does that finally come in? Because
that's the band obviously that you're known for now that
I know you from, and that's I believe there's a
stable lineup in there too. So when did you finally
get some I guess stability in your life?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You would think.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
So there's more to it you can tell me. I
want to know. I don't know all your stories. So
this is a good fill in the.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
This is uh, this will be an exclusive for you.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So yeah, Fractured Mirror. So we'll back up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
The the New Year's Eve between like twenty nineteen going
into twenty to twenty, so right before the world.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Ended right before they went to hell.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I told the guys a Tupump, Hey, you know,
I'm done playing these, you know, ten to two am gigs,
you know, because I was driving back and forth from
tiro Believe a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And were they well attended at least? Did you actually
play for a bunch of people.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah. We did a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean we played a Packers Steelers preseason game at Heinesfield.
We opened for Sebastian Bach and Texas Hippy Coalition and nice.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, a lot of fun stuff and it was it
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
It was just wearing on me, and you know, I
was just playing the same stuff over and over and
I was like, I really want to get into.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
An original project.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So early twenty twenty, I'm done with Tupump for the moment.
I joined this band called Starve the Beast, which is
a a like an industrial ish hard rock type thing.
And I had to play to a click track with
with backing tracks, and so it was gonna be really cool.
It was going to like really force me to, you know,
(37:35):
step out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, songs were.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Good, singer was good, you know, band was really good.
But then the world went to shut down. They were
based out of Indianapolis, so I was driving like an
hour back and forth to do that. So that all
kind of ended with COVID. And then so towards the
(38:00):
end of twenty twenty, I got with Dustin Burriss, who
is my He's like the He's the James Hetfield to
my my Lars Rich.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's the gene to my Paul or whatever. I want to.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Play music with that dude for the rest of my life.
But I, you know, I told him, you know, we
need to get something going. So we started working together
again because he was in Red Zilla with me, and
then we got Hank Stitzel in there, and so we
we had two guitar players. We didn't really know who
(38:40):
was going to sing, and then we came up with
the name Fractured Mirror. I I designed the logo, which
is I think is super cool.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It is not just saying that because you're sitting right here. Yeah, yeah,
but it's all right. I don't like it so much,
but we're stuck with it. We're using it. This logo. Yeah,
it doesn't mean anything now, but we're stuck with it. It
makes a lot of money, right, Yeah, it feels like
it was getting serious at this time, like you've been,
like we talked about a few minutes ago, like you
(39:12):
were with a bunch of different people in a bunch
of different bands, and people would come and go. But
it seems like when you met these guys, it seemed
like there was an actual deeper connection beyond the music,
Like you guys like you like these people like it
seems like a connection was finally made. Am I right
about that?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Sure, I mean I definitely had that early on in DT,
but I really hadn't had anything as far as original
music goes.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Like that since then.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
So it was, you know, like I said, me, Dustin
and Hank, we we decided that Hank needed to go
for a while, so we Gotankey Middleton to play bass,
(40:02):
and then John Hanlon came in as a singer and
guitar player, who, you know, just a phenomenal guitar player,
has riffs for days, and it just all just meshed,
you know, and for the most part, everybody was on
the same page with everything and the vision of actually
(40:26):
doing it, you know, because those guys are a little
older than me.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I just turned thirty seven, which is rough young.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Dustin and John I think are
around your age, maybe a little older.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, dirt, Yeah what did you get here? Boy?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah? Yeah, that's how it always is.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
But yeah, so we uh, you know, we did the
first EP, which I was really proud of.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You know, I had never We recorded all of it in.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
My house, you know, we figured out how.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
To do all that.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Then we put out a single and it sounded better
than the EP, and then we did Fractured Mirror two,
which sounded even better than that, and we were kind
of moving towards a more classic.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Rock sound, yeah, yeah, more so than the heavier metal
undertone of the first EP.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't remember where I jumped in on that, to
be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
I think you were on.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The first one because you played Recluse, which is the
opening track on.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
The first one, okay, which is a pretty popular song
amongst the people that you know that listen.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So yeah, because I assume you met Kevin probably on
one of the cruises, right, and that's when he passed
your band onto me.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But one of the cruises or after, yeah, yeah, because
I was on Kiss Cruise five through.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Eleven, okay, And so yeah, I mean they're pretty early on.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
So, yeah, freak bigger than you. What's that I kiss?
Freak bigger than you?
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I don't know, man, I'm I'm pretty pretty hardcore. I've
seen them.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
You guys should have a kiss off. I got to
see that.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, person, you have a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No he doesn't, so then okay, so there you go.
He lost, You got him? You win that boy don't
have any tattoos but a nerd loser loser square. Yeah
he lost, maybe you still will. We'll see. We get
it right on his forehead. He's got that bald head
(42:52):
that I got right on top of his head, big
old kiss logo. I mean, branded that'd be perfectly convinced
something drunk one night, get it on him.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
It sucks that this isn't gonna be video because I'm
pretty sure i'm cutting all my hair off.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Man. Well i'll have the video. I mean, it's just
because my yours looks perfect. It's mine. That just it
looks like it's, i don't know, like some cheap ass.
Remember those old webcams from the late nineties early too, Yeah,
that's how it looks. I don't know if you can
see it, but it's blurry as fuck. It's a brand
new computer. Weird, it's messed up like yours is perfect,
it'd be, it's not. It's not broadcast quality. So I'm
(43:28):
not using it for that reason. But talk about some
clips online though. There'll still be some clips I could
probably add to kind of add to it or kind
of tease it. So maybe I'll use a couple of
clips and you'll get well, get so you're cutting your
hair off. You're gonna cut it like completely short.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah. So we you know, when we did the video.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
For Trailer Park last week, we were out in the
blazing sun for five hours straight.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
I had to be in every shot. Ah, and you know.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
My hair like when it gets hot, it just starts expanding.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Mine was doing that too hard to believe back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Yeah, true, it's a ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
The community would make it go crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
And then we played outside Thursday night and you know,
it had rained and the humidity was just insane, and
I was like, yeah, this is the last.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Run with it.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I'm gonna the end of an era. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I've had it for about five years, I think, and
it's it's time to let it go.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
For the moment.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
So well, that's it. Really, I'm surprised I would have
saw you having that most of your teenage years into
now kind of Oh no.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Man, Yeah I had. There was a time in high
school where I started to let it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Get long and then my you know, my grandma really
hated it and me at the time.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Hair Yeah, she offered me like fifty dollars to cut.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
It nice the price of a hard cut. Yeah, I'll
pay for your haircut.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah. But yeah, I grew it out a little bit.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Around twenty thirteen and then I just cut it. You know,
I was always always had short hair.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And wow, that's interesting. Well I can't wait to see that.
It's going to be a new look, but it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I'll be in my load era.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I get some mirrors, get
some makeup, get some guyliner, going.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
This is gonna be awesome. Yeah. So I'll definitely keep
some of the video for this then, like I said, end.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Of an era, Yeah for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So we're counting down on minutarrey, I got about five
minutes left, so there's obviously lots to talk about. We
can do this again more intense of it more in
a deeper conversation, but so fractured mirror what it is
right now as far as doing things, do you still
have the same guys in it? Did things change there?
Tell me a little bit about more fraction, Mary before
I have to get out of here.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Okay, so fractured. We just played a show a couple
of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
We ended up getting a fill in bass player, which
was Hank, who was originally the guitar player. And we
are we've been talking about this for a while. We
are going to be on the hunt for a lead
singer slash frontman. If they could play guitar, that's fantastic.
(46:20):
If not, that's also cool. You know, we can deal
with that. But we just we want to We need
someone who can command the crowd and the stage and
and do that. We need like a Steven Tyler, you
know type of.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Thinge of thing yea, which is not easy to find.
I mean, there's a million people out there can copy
Steven Tyler, but you want your own thing. You want
your own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
And I'm not saying necessarily you know, sound like Steven Tyler,
but that type of thing. So yeah, I don't know
what what's gonna happen with that? But Dustin and I
are going to keep working on things regardless. Dustin and
Hank have another project they're working on some to try
and help them with that.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Because you're a former or I guess current singer. Is
he out then or what's happening with with that? I
don't know, or he wants to be out. You don't
say whatever you want. You don't have to want to know.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
The plan was to have him just play guitar.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh, he's still gonna be in the band then just
playing guitar and not singing.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah, as as of right now, Yeah, that's I think
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Do you sing at all?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So I can sing?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
And I have saying before, it's not something I want
to do all the time.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I would be okay with doing a song or two like.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
What singer does or what what's his name from night
Ranger there, Kelly, anything like that who just do things
on the st or don't do everything right. They're not
the many, but they also sing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, I could do one or two songs that would
be fine, But it's a lot to play drums and
sing lead vocals and you know I don't I don't
play soft. You know, I beat the ship out of
the drums all the time.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
So Bontnham guy, you're the Franken Binally guy. Yes, rank
p Yeah, I know how much you love and we
talked about that many times on Paradise City too. So
so good. Your love of Frankie is very prevalent.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
But yeah, and then, uh, you know we're doing new
two punk chump songs. I was working on recording one today, so.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, just uh, you know, busy all the time, man.
And then you know the store.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
We didn't even talk about the store. There was less
than two minutes left. I mean, so just tell me
where people in the store. Where you're out of your
physical location obviously in Tera ho where can people can
they buy online as well too, all over the world, Like,
tell me about the store real quick.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, So I've got a I've got a physical brick
and mortar record store in Tera Hope. Anyone can message me,
and you know I'd be happy to ship stuff. You know,
you can message me on Facebook. Everything is at Cycles Records.
I've got Instagram. I'm really good about using Facebook. Instagram
(49:15):
is a close second. And then you know, I have,
you know, a Twitter account and a TikTok for the sword,
but I don't. It's it's tough for me to get
all that stuff in there, you know, everything else.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
So and the Fracture Mirror can they find connect and
connect on the same place as too?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, everything is that Fractured Mirror band. I believe you know.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
We're on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Music, YouTube Music, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
And actually I just released three tracks from Decimating Tomorrow
that we're never finished, but they still sound really good
for not being finished.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
That's all out on stream as well.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
So well, we're going to do a part two because
there's a lot to dig into with the Ciples records too.
So if you're done with that, you're gonna come back
and we'll connect the part two. Hell yeah, awesome, Brett,
Thanks for chatting, man, we'll talk soon, okay, brother.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Hi buddy, Thank you man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I appreciate you too. Also, as a side note,
I want to give a shout out to Kevin Matthews
who picked me up and rescued me when I was
stranded with the car in the parking lot. At two
in the morning, he brought me home safe and soundly.
Just want everyone to know that you've been listening to
the Nobody's or Somebody's podcast with Chadvice, and this podcast
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