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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nobodies are somebodies, all right, friends, it's Nobody's there's Somebody's podcast.
It's me Chad Weiss. Welcome to another show, another episode,
and I'm bringing to you this week Jeffrey Rivenbrough, who
is a guy straight out of Las Vegas, Henderson, Nevada
to be exact, to be extract and it's a guy
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been talking to off the air for a little bit now,
quite a little while, but finally got him on the podcast.
Our schedule is matched. He's a guy who has a
lot going on. Started out doing executive protection in the
mid nineties for a lot of big name artists that
you may be surprised at hearing. That's how he broke
into the music industry, music business as it were, and
started working for a record label after that, and then
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his story continues on from there. That's how most stories work.
They continue on to somewhere and they sometimes end somewhere.
But this podcast is never ending anywhere. It's always going
to be around. It's always gonna be here for you.
It's gonna have different guests and more of my amazing
rock voice. Just kidding. Jeffrey's got an amazing voice too,
and an amazing story. Can't wait to bring it to you. Now.
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Do I have anything else to talk about this week?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh?
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Find Jeffrey on Facebook. All right now, Jeffrey, it's good
to see you man. I'm doing good, my brother. It's
good to finally have you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's so good to see you too. It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We've been talking for a while, but now we finally
made it happen. We're meeting in person. Quotation air quotation.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Absolutely, thank you so much. I'm very honored to be on.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I really really am honored to talk to you too,
my friends. So let's get down to it. So, there's
a lot of little pieces I've learned about your life
and about your history. I can't wait to dig into them.
All I want to know tell me about your history
and music. Basically, we'll start there.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My history and music started off in the mid nineties.
I worked for Steve Wynn, who owned the Maras Hotel,
you know the Marag's Hotel at the time, and I
would it started as executive protection. It started, you know,
executive protection for share Johnny Cash, and then it led
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into you know, other.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like bodyguard work, like security like security detail.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Right, that's correct, Yes, that's correct. Uh. And that was
kind of like my first you know, toe and the
water into the music industry. Then I kind of, uh,
you know, I've had I've had a different life than
most people. And I got to meet a wonderful I
got to meet the owners of Rock Avenue Records USA,
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and they were and still are absolutely wonderful label. They're
one of the strongest independents that are out there. And
I started at the bottom and I learned the music
industry from all angles. Then, you know, and it's surprisingly
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you know how different or different avenues that you can
go into. The recording industry is changing. You have guys
like Jeans Simons that will say that it's dead or
I don't believe that, Yeah, they'll they'll Sty'll say that
I think he still lives out here. I'm not quite sure,
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but you know, you have to be able to change
and adapt. Then I was with them for about oh god,
almost eight years, maybe nine years, and I was getting tired.
I started ghostwriting for celebrities on their social media pages
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and it got to the point where people were, you know,
they could my writing is so different and so distinctive.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You know, I you are definitely not that.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
People could detect it with me, and you really can't.
You really can't hide anywhere on the internet. So now
I'm you know, I left rock and there are wonderful,
wonderful people and you know, they're always looking for new artists,
new talent. They are supporting, you know, both local music,
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but they're putting out new music and that is so
important that you know that we even like as we
were chatting that you support you know, local labels, local music,
and you know, the owner comes out of Metal Blades.
So we have a lot of really happening things that
they're doing. I'm blessed to be with Less Warner, the
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power drummer from the Cole and he's doing some really
exciting things that they just did a thing called a
single called Kickick, which he did with Ira Black and
Beautiful Beautiful was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Playing, Yeah, Yeah, I was Iris. For those who don't
know Ira Black, he played a bit a little stant
with Doc and someone in the recent past a new
version of The Bullet Boys. I'm not sure I haven't
followed exactly, but that's some where you may have heard
some of his work if not, then there's another band
two that escapes me right now you probably know that. Yeah,
a new project or a new word in the original project.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, there's a lot of original. He's doing an original project.
The Bullet Boys are on Rock Avenue Records label. They're
doing some interesting stuff. Fred I can't Oh, he's really
interesting young yeah. Uh yeah, he's doing Kings of Thrash. Yes,
and so there's a really good lineage with in the
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line of the label and they're doing really really exciting stuff.
It's just, you know, I enjoy writing my my health.
It's when you get to that type of level and
you're always working, working, working. My health started to deteriorate,
right and I take care of my mother who has
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dementia and Alzheimer's and it can be very challenging. So
they were very supportive in the fact that, you know,
giving me time off. And I can't say they're just
great people. Man. It's a great label. And you know,
working with Less is an honor. I mean, he's a
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really great guy and he's, like I said the Kick song,
you know, there's some exciting stuff that's going to be happening,
you know, out of his camp and I'm really I
really can't go.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Into it because yeah, yeah, I really know. I don't
it's nice to be surprised, like we talked about with
the internet, it's hard to be surprised everybody. You can't hide,
like you said, so a little bit of mystery and
a bad thing in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And uh but if you don't know, you don't know too,
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
How can I say it? I sound like at the
village idiot I tell them clients not to drink or
do it. But you know, I'm a little nervous, man,
I mean, you know, this is kind of I'm a
little nervous.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You're talking about right now talking to me. I'm just
I'm just chad vice. Can you imagine if you're in
front of a label president or in front of Viral
himself or maybe Mark Torrean or somebody like that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Thout No, actually, you know, yeah, no, this is kind
of I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
But you know what, man, there's a few things while
you touched on a lot I love to cover and
there's only so much time to do so we can
do it again too. But let me take me back
back to the start where we were talk about artist protection. Uh,
just describe a bit to me how you got into that?
Were you pushed into that? Did you seek that out
and want to do that? How did you in there?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, actually, what they did was they hired uh, they
had it what's called an investigation unit within uh you know,
casino operations at the Mirage Hotel.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
This was of our timeline. Sorry, this was mid nineties, right.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yes, this is this is about ninety yeah, mid nineties.
And I, uh, you know I I I made it really,
you know. I slept with the owner's mistress and we
fell in love, and I got off of his family's
protection detail, which is you know, which is no secret,
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I mean you know. And he's like, well, I'm going
to banish you, you know, you and this woman that
I was involved with, who I loved very much. I'm
going to put you a share. I'm going to put
you with Michael Jackson. I'm going to put you with
you know, he thought that he was you know, hurting
me by you know, taking he did, you know, by
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taking me off these high rollers and putting me on celebrities.
But what he did was a great favor to me.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't understand that. So he's punishing you by taking
you with the major big time celebrities like share like, yeah,
how does that? How does that work as punishment because
they're harder to deal with and it might be it
might push.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's just you know, it was just you know, I
had me personally, I fell in love with with one
of with one of his girls, and he didn't want
me around near his family. So basically I was he
thought that by putting me in a corner, he still
liked my talents and what I had to offer as
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far as.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Protection services, right, So he still liked what you did.
He just wanted you different, like you said, corner like
managing different people that aren't really directly associated with him.
Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Totally totally, totally, totally different social setting. And what he
did was me a great favor, you know, because I
got to work with these great artists.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Who can you share a bit of how that was.
I'm not asking for personal details of them, but just
basically your experience, any high points or low points working man.
I mean, I'm sure there's a million, but if you
can just give me a couple here, I will.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Any of my any protect the you know, I've been
asked to write books, and I've been asked.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
To I can imagine share the dirt.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
And share the dirt, you know, but that's that's not
my style, That's not what I'm about, So I don't
some of the I know that you know, you and
I have talked personally about, you know, some of the
right one of the eyes with Johnny Cash m hm
during the highwaymantor. That was a an interesting an interesting
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tour because you know what they would do is they
would you know, Kenny Rogers I think was the director
of entertainment at the time, and he booked a highwayman
and they each had their own you know, William Nelson
had all these guys, and you're on the inside and
you're basically listening to not only business sense that they're
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going through, but you're also listening to very private matters,
you know, and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Very important conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And as far as high, I would have to say,
my high was Wow. I would have to say Johnny
Cash because I've been a job I've been a Cash
fan pretty much my whole entire life, and he is
one of those individuals that was a very sweet man.
(13:06):
But very straightforward. And he was hard to get on
stage because they would as we were ready to hear
pieces in the countdown, and he was you know, you
know at the time he had an infetamine problem. It's
you know, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's not well documented. Yeah, well it's.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
A well documented fact. And excuse me I'm having but
you know, it was hard to get him on stage because,
you know, each he would wait till the very last
second and.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Miss Johnny Cash, I mean right, yeah, and what are
you gonna say, Johnny Cash, get your ass on stage.
Let's go here pretty much?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, air on fire type stuff, and he would just
casually walk on man and it was just like coolness
and grace and he was man. Yeah, he was a
great guy. I got to work with artists such as
tupacs coor Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
A lot of like grades you just mentioned there too.
Of course, we lost all the people you just mentioned
sadly in different years. But yeah, it's amazing you got
those experiences, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, pretty much everybody I you know that I've worked
with is is dead. But I had the great honor
too to work with these these wonderful and these wonderful,
wonderful just people you know, despite their talent, you know,
or despite whatever pit pols won me?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Right, when did you get out of this then? Like
when did you move into the label side that what
made you? Did something happen to make you want to
get out of it? Or do you just need a change?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, you know, I had done that work for for
such a long time that it was like I needed
to move on. And you know, and my body is
you know, I'm you know, fifty eight years old and
you know I now right or that now at the time,
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at the time, my body my you know, back operations
and knees, and it takes toll on It takes toll
on you. So mentally are.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Are physical It could be both, right, because you're going
through that pain and those surgeries and those uh you know,
those those health issues can definitely take a mental toll,
I would imagine, because you're not you're not performing, not
feeling like you used.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
To absolutely chat, absolutely and I wanted and I went
into a different direction. I am, you know, kind of
you know, moving forward because we don't have that much time,
you know, with uh, with the writing aspect, I write,
like I said, I write a certain manner and it
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just got to the point where I kind of after
a while, you need to kind of you know, break
free and do what you'd like to do. And it's
and right now, you know, my main concern is my mom,
right and the artist that I write for or the uh,
the content that I write for. You know, they know
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that my mom is my number one priority. So uh,
it gives me the opportunity to work at night, you know,
And I mean I don't get to go to that
many shows or you know, that many openings.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Of your nightlife. And then you're in Vegas, right, there's
that you can do a million things in one second too.
I mean there's always something going on, as everybody should know.
It's the entertainment capital of the world. But if you
want to, you can keep yourself busy. You can never
be at home. But I mean it's you choose to
take care of your family or mom, and that's that's.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
My my my my family, My family is priority number one.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
She's uh, you know, she's in her eighties and she's funny.
It's it's it's it's kind of difficulties, you know, it's
but overall I'm you know, I'm very pleased in what
I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
How long have you been taking care of your mom?
I assume you're doing it. So it's just.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Conter of my mom. Probably for about ten years we
knew she was gonna have Alzheimer's. We thought we had
it all planned. And then in two thousand and I
think eighteen, my uncle was killed by drunk driver and
he's the glue that kept the family together, and that's
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kind of when it really really escalated. My mom had
an emotional breakdown and it was it was the catalyst.
It was kind of like you know, the kid with
the matches, you know, sitting it on fire. You know.
His passing was very not only difficult for me, but
my family just in general. And they he was a
(18:02):
great he was a great dude. He was a great guy.
You would have loved him. And unfortunately my mother that
was the what the psychiatrists.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's where that's what started her her decline. Decline. Yeah, yeah,
I got it.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And they go on a scale from twenty to zero.
And right now we just had my mother re evaluated
and she's she's about an eight or a nine, so
she is declining. It is hard.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is is twenty the lowest or the highest in that.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Regard kind of it's when you start.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, so the bottom is twenty and you're working your
way unfortunately down up.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I guess the stealing is twenty and the bottom may
be zero.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
When she's at eight.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
She's about an eight right now. Yeah, And I do
have I have nurses in the daytime to help me,
thank god, you know, it took a while, but I
do have, you know, nurses a help that free me
up so I can go shopping.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
That I can, you know, take care of the business stuff,
the family, the house of the bills, right, yeah, every
thing every day. Then you can still work, right because
I assume you still work when you can or how
you can.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That That's that's pretty much it. I you know, sometimes
I'm a little late getting my pieces out, but I
try to stay on top of things locally here right
Count Vamps closed.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yes, I just heard that Danny count cocor just it's
upper sell. Don't know if anybody bought it yet, you
would know if anybody is looking to buy it. Hopefully
they keep it as a rock club.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But I I hear rumors because the entertainment scene here
in Las Vegas is really clicking. It's like high school, right,
you know, one person will tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
One and you're not surprised.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But it's good. I do know this. It's going to
stay at rock Club.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, that's good to hear, because that was a big
question when it got sold. As whoever bought it, way
they keep it like that, They certainly can do what
they want, but the whole fingers crossed was that I
would stay at rock club. It was such a great.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Very important piece of not only local music being driven
because we have here in Vegas, we have such talented.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Artists, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And they have played in major you know, they've played
in major bands in my life, your life, and.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
People listening might not even realize. We go through the
list at some point too, but you might not realize
all the people you might know that live or have
contributed to or been a part of the Vegas music scene.
Is just just too long. We don't have enough minutes
in this podcast to do it. But it's it's it's
out there. You can look it up. People can look
it up. Google is your best friend. Pardon Google is
your best friend. People can look it up if they
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want to know what Vegas music history is out there
if you if you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Really want to, you know, see what's happening in the
Vegas scene. As far as entertainment wise, it's called uh,
it's called the Weekly, the biggest weekly, okay, part of
and it can it'll give you not only the overpriced concerts,
you know, but it gives you what's happening locally. And
(21:28):
I'm a big proponent of writing for artists that don't
have the money, that don't have the.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Resources to get major public For clarity, so people know
what you do. When you say writing, you're talking about
from publication articles.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's correct. I'm a content writer. What I do is
I'm a I'm a content writer, and I basically will
work with an artist or a nightclub or or a
label to basically, you know, pump up their numbers visually, uh,
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you know, their views.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Which is all everybody's looking for, right, correct dreams, content views,
likes exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And sometimes I was blessed to take some core. I
take a course with Bernie Bernstein. The is a in
the Manager's Hall of Fame, and I spent you know,
some five hours with him learning the music industry from
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a different point of view and a different inkle, and
it's how can I say it, it's a if you know,
I'm come to Vegas where like I said, like during COVID,
we're all we're open and you know we have we
have a great local like uh, tonight rock and Roll
Church is a band that Less plays in and there
(23:05):
ten dollars to get in. It's fan it's family, family friendly,
and uh, it's I can't think of continue, but it's
a little it's a little place on the strip that
you know, hey, you're gonna you never know who you're.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Going to sea And if I'm correct too, there's a
lot of concerts that are free on the old Freemont
Street too. There's a lot of places that do free
concerts outdoors in the heat. People, if you can stand it,
go out there and get a good show. So the
Boston Bach has played a number of shows there, missed
every single one of them. I'd love to see. Yeah,
there's a lot to do that. There's a spear that
people can check out. Might be more more pricey, but
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there's definitely some great stuff happening in there. Rumors about
who's coming next in there, Metallica.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We love our we love our guests, we love the
people that come here, and we have Downtown is a
great music scene as far as like you said, Sebastian
has played down there, Rick, you can feel this play
down there. Yes, and you would be surprised on some
of the who you never know who you're going to.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Mean restaurants, there's an artist theme restaurants. There's the Bootlegger,
whichever is great too, Ron Man, cuz that runs that.
Lots of good stuff out there, like Vegas is. I
hear a lot of stuff about Vegas. Obviously, you can
tell I know a few things about it because I
want to get there so bad. And if I've known
people who have lived there or work and do business
podcast otherwise there too. Rock and Pod has been there,
(24:27):
the podcast thing I was invited to way back when.
So there's lots of opportunities Vegas is. Uh, it's real
high on my bucket list to get there. Not for
the gambling. I mean, I can gamble anywhere. I don't
want to.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'd I'd love just to hang out with just to
come out.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I guess I'll see you too. I could see. That's
one thing I could do we have a lot of yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
A lot of out here, and it's very exciting and
but like I said, it's very expensive. Also, you know,
it's it's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's that's only getting worst problem.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Is that, you know, kind of like the hotels. I know,
executives are probably cringing, going, man, there he goes again.
But you know, I'm really a big proponent on not
taxing people an extra you know, forty bucks to park
your car, or an extra ten bucks per tickets to
a concert, because that really does that's not the wisest
(25:22):
thing to do. And that's kind of like where we're headed.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
We're there, We're already there, and it's only going to
get worse for sure. Going back to the going back
to the social media thing you mentioned when you were
you said that you were writing for a bunch of
artists and it started to look like people could recognize
your content because it's you. Because did you would you
recognize that and got out of it or did somebody
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, I I was I was earning extra money. Basically
everybody in Vegas has a side job. It's kind of
a joke, you know, it's kind of like a locals joke,
and it's it just got to the point where I
couldn't write for somebody and make it sound like them,
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And it was just it just got to the point
where my writing got too distinctive.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And did you think of changing it up? Or were
you asked what kind of ghost A little know?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What I do is I've been a ghostwriter for a while,
for a long time actually, And the thing is is
that with my a I'll give you any kind of
post that I would that I do. Now, I work
very closely with the artist and I send them of course,
(26:40):
you know, it's the content, you know, the draft of it,
and it's either a yay or any take this out,
take that out. And I think it's very important to
work with your artists in that manner, you know, whether.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You exactly so you got to feel like they say
they're saying what they want to say without them physically
saying with saying it, which is kind of so I
have two questions on that. One basically, how do you
feel about being a ghost and not being credited for
the things that you write? And two would it not
be easier if they're going back and forth with you
and and kind of finding fine tuning the content. Wouldn't
it not be easier for them to just you know,
(27:17):
say it themselves at that point.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
A lot of artists are shy. A lot of artists
are different as far as music artists are concerned. You know,
they're very private people. And one I got paid very
well when I did it. Uh two, I uh to
(27:41):
to the second part of your question. Like I said,
they're very private. Sometimes they're very private people and they can't.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Matter that doesn't kind of invade their privacy. They might overshare,
or they might not say how they want to say,
or they might not want to say anything, but they
have to because this is what we like with some resistant.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
With a less I just do the LinkedIn. I'm his
LinkedIn manager and writer, but I work very closely with him. Anything.
I don't put anything out that he doesn't want put
out right, and you know, some of the other artists
(28:21):
the same way. It's very important to me to have
that relationship with the artists. And too. They might not
like the way this sounds, but it puts you know,
it puts assets in the seats, so you know, they
kind of understand, you know, you sometimes you have to
explain to him you know the way in which you
(28:44):
know you're expressing yourself, you know, in that moment in time,
and social media is so quick, so fast, and as
you know, you know social media, you have to capture
the attention very quickly if you don't within three seconds
to five seconds exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You know, Have you ever had something go out that
maybe wasn't meant to? Have you ever made I guess so,
for lack of a better term, mistake or has been
a miscommunication is a better word, Yeah, it's kind of been.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, it's mostly mine. I'm I have dyslexia, so mine's
mostly grammar wise, or it's I'll put like it's like like,
let's lea, let's say defense, I'll put like maybe a
(29:40):
three all type of three instead of an E. And
I've done you know, small errors like that, to big errors,
to where I put the wrong musicians in there, and
you know, I get a phone call and I change
it right on the spot, right on the spot. You know, Yeah,
I've I've made you know, not only you know grammars,
(30:01):
but you know artist errors. I put the wrong artists
in the wrong place.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Have you ever said something by mistake or you go
back and forth and collaborate. But I assume there's artists
where you can pretty much you have somewhat of autonomy.
But have you ever put stuff out I'm asking the
name names, but have you ever put something out there
where they're like, I don't want to say that or
they shouldn't have said that. Has there any been of
that or anything of that?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, yeah, how did that get handled?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
That got handled? You know, with care because it was
a project that they're working on that they want to
get a little bit of internet buzz, but not a
lot of buzz. But the artist was you know, very
(30:49):
very big, so you know, I took a I gave
him I'm just enough, just enough you know, clarity to
to kind of see what's going on to get people's interests,
pique their interest.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But was it too much that you revealed or no?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
No, no, no, not at all. It was it was you
can tell I'm walking a tightrope here.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, I know, I don't mean to make you do that.
I just kind of want to.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, it's just interesting because there's different.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I put in some some names that I shouldn't
put in. Okay, possible this or a possible that, and
so yeah, it got it, got it, got it, got
a lot it got I got a lot of keap
for that. But one it's true too, it's an exciting project.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And was this recently or in the somewhat past?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Was that already out there.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Within the with with within the last six months?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay? But the project whatever you're leaking, that's already happened
or is happening. Uh, it's happening now, happening now.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And like I said, you don't to get into the
entertainment industry. I encourage people, you know, to do it
to you know, you're in the entertainment industry. You don't
have to you know, move amplifiers to you know, to
really support music.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Right you know, but there's other ways, right.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh, absolutely, yeah, you brit your back. You know, there's
other you know, there's lighting, there's design, there's all sorts
of things. So I really really encourage people to if
they want to get into entertainment, you know, do it.
You know, I'm pretty blessed to have been in entertainment
for for a long time and to kind of go
(32:45):
in and kind of go out and it's been it's
it's been very good to me and it's been very
hard on me. So you know, well, now I'm starting
to get comfortable.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We're almost out of here, and so you've been really
good to me in this podcast. But with the lesson
and I guess about five minutes we have or so left,
can you leak from your own terms of what you can,
what you got coming up, maybe something you're working on,
what the future holds for you, as far as the
stuff you're doing. I'm working. People find you if they
want to look up some of your works, your writings,
or your artists that you're working with.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Okay, you can find me on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Under name Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, I go under my full name. I don't hide
Jeffrey riven Bird. And it's a private Everything is private
on there because of the artist that happened. You can
find me on you know, on Facebook. I'm an actual
person who you know answers his own.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
That is true. I can verify, Yeah, I can verify.
Can you confirm?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You can find me on Facebook? You can find me
on Jeff Ruvenberg official Instagram and is I am so
honored that you asked a dorky guy like me to
be on your you know, to be on we.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Should we should start a podcast called two Dorks.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Two Dorks. Yeah, you know is my favorite. You know,
it's my favorite podcast, and I think, uh and hey,
they you never know, man.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You know, you never know exactly would be actually pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I could get the artists. You'd be surprised and you know,
on the artists that will come on and kind of
you know, really.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Just wrap with us and just shoot the ship right
and just do whatever. That's all matters. Well, I'm gonna
get you on Paravice City for sure, my eighties rock show.
I'm sure you've seen posts about that coming on and
talking music and playing the music itself. I think that's
a cool little feature too. I want to, yeah, get
you on that. We only have an hour or less
between the music, but I'm sure we'd have some great
times on that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Absolutely, And thank you so much, you.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Know, Bram, Jeffrey me on and working one more thing,
working people if they want check out your articles, do
you have a website that has them all? Or where
can people.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
See most of my writing is is you can.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Print?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
My writing is internet based internet?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
So people kind of an example of.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That, yeah, you I'll give you an example. What's going
on tonight with Rock and Rolled Church. That's a little
bit of my writing. But uh, you've you've seen my
writing and and some of the artists that I write for.
Uh yeah, just follow me on Instagram or follow me
(35:35):
on on Facebook. I'm a real person. You know, the
words the better, you know, that's where you can get
a really good piece of meat of what of what
I do LinkedIn it's all less, you know. Once in
a while I'll kind of leak an artist that I
think is really interesting, but you know, it's there's you know,
(36:01):
I'm I'm I'm pretty blessed to be to work with
and collaborate with, you know, with with such a wonderful
artist such as last And he's a great guy. I mean,
he's really really a great, great guy. You know, he
loves his fans and.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
That's good to hear. It's good to hear. Yeah, absolutely
are Jeffrey has been amazing talking to you. Thanks so
much for coming by, and we'll do this again, I promise, Okay, brother.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh man, absolutely anytime. Uh I had one. I'm thank
you so much. Chat, Thank thank you, jeff thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
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