Ep. 19 - Special Guest: Diante Johnson, President of the Black Conservative Federation

Special Guest: Diante Johnson, President of the Black Conservative Federation

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Episode Transcript

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proud father of a healthy baby girl, So shout out to Alex. Can't
wait to have you back and congratulationsonce again. So for this episode,
listeners, we actually have someone subbingin. Who's gonna sit in Alex's normal
seat. The illustrious, the notorious, and if you are on the left

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side of the aisle, the BlackRepublican you hate to hear from because he
makes too much sense. Deontay Johnson. Deontay is the founder and president of
the Black Conservative Federation. Their missionis to create more Black conservatives and conservative
leaders in general, promoting fiscal discipline, educational advancement, and community improvement.

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Deontay is a very interesting character inhis own right. A son of Chicago,
so he knows about all the urbanviolence and the plights of those communities,
but also know that there is aconservative heart and a need for conservative
principles in that community. What hedoes is very unique, and I'll let
him talk about that a little bitfurther, because when we talk about these

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organizations that claim to represent the peoplewhat the people of African American descent,
whether that be on a left orthe right, very rarely do you find
someone as authentic as mister Deontay Johnson. Deontay, how are you, man,
al Am? I am doing I'mdoing better than I deserve, doing

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better than I deserve a man bythe grace of God, Deontay. Just
as your political background, I knowyou started back with I guess that I
would be the sixteen cycle when BenCarson was actually running for president, before
he took his appointment as HUT secretary. Somebody else is in that job now.

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I know that growing from that position, you became kind of a go
to person when it comes to engagementfor African Americans. I know you worked
with the Trump administration heavily. You'vebeen involved with state campaigns and things of
that nature. So just real quicklytell us how you got here as a

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kid from Chicago, a young kidat that well, you know, I
actually you said twenty sixteen, actuallystarted in the political world in eighth grade,
actually, And so I started beingone of those people that was excited
just to get out and knocked doorsand make phone calls and even just putting

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up yard signs, whatever it wasthat I could do to help a political
campaign. And I started because Ivalue the importance of community service. Through
my entire middle school career, Ispent a lot of time volunteering, volunteered
at the Into Hospital, of volunteeringat different nonprofit organizations throughout the community.

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And I decided that I actually likeserving people, actually being able to give
back to a community that has allowedfor me to be able to move forward.
And so I said, the onlyway that I can do that is,
you know, I have to gointo that next ram of politics.

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Okay, I you know, comefrom a very Democratic family, and I
said, listen here, there isnowhere on my birth certificate that says that
I have to be a Republican,that I have to be a Democrat or
a Republican, and therefore I needto do the research myself. And so
I did the research, and Isaid, I'm a conservative. You know,

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I'm a conservative. So I didn'tbelieve it at the time. And
so what I did was I actuallydecided to start going to the Democratic Party
events, and well it went gooduntil I asked to get involved and they
told me that I was too youngyoung and I said, oh, okay,

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this is not the party for me. Um. And so, you
know, it was so many differentsigns that told me that being a Democrat,
this wasn't for me. And thatwas the icenomen cake. I went
to a Republican I started hanging aroundthe Republicans and going to Republican meetings and
they got me involved immediately. Itimmediately got me involved. But even more
so, I ended up running foroffice at nineteen years old. Wow.

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Um, one of the first inthe in the state to run at that's
at the young age, but oneof the first black the first Black Republican
in the state, UM to runat a young age. And so um,
it's been the party for me.Um. And you know, the
Bible says that God knew us inthe womb, and he annointed us,

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and he ordained us for great things. And I was ordamed to be a
Republican leader. And that's where Iam. And so that's that was my
start. That was who That's whoI am, that who you know my
values stand. You know, Ibelieve in the First and Second Amendment.
I believe in common sense regulation.I believe in limited government. I believe
in the sainty and dignity of life. And those things are so important to

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me. But also I know thosethings are very important to the black community,
even though they don't vote as thatway. You know, I think
it's so interesting and this is whyI love Deante because you know, he
starts with why I'm involved in politics, and he goes all the way back
to service and even a lot oftimes when you see people, um like

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I'll just throw a name out therelike Alc. I think her plight in
life is to be a celebrity morethan a servant. And where you start
from it, it's the exact opposite. You're like, no, no,
no, I was involved these organizationsat a young age and then that's what
led me to this life. Andyou're completely right there when you know in
Ohio, I don't know if youknow, there's about seventy percent of African

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Americans in Ohio identify with conservative principles, but as you say, they don't
vote conservative, which brings us toyou know, why BCF exists. I
know you all or we just celebrateit. I am a member of BCF
as currently as long as I don'tget fired the next couple of weeks.

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I'm a member of VCF, andI know we just celebrated a five year
anniversary. So Deontay, if youcould tell us, you know, as
you made your way from being anindividual fighting for these conservative principles in minority
in African American communities. How doesBCF come about and what's you know,

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the mission of what we're doing currentlyas we see it today. Well,
you know, calling Jesus couldn't doit along and neither could I. You
know, Jesus needed Peter, Jamesand John and his inner circle to get
done the amazing things that he did. And so I needed a team.
I needed a team that was goingto be that was going to help me
and UH stand with me as weequipped the world for the change that's on

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its on its way. And soI needed to create an organization, a
vehicle that was going to help takeus there, that was going to help
take us and give us the notoriety, give us the vehicle to be able
to fundraise, to be able tofund UM these programs and help take us

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to the next level. I'm thevisionary, okay right, I'm the visionary.
And as a visionary, being avisionary only takes you so far,
you know. Um, then youneed those who are going to take your
vision and make it reality. Andthat is you know where BCF come in

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come into play. It's that surroundingyourself around UM skillful individuals like yourself and
so many others that are part andhelping us take a vision and taking the
conservative message and creating what we seetoday. You know, we saw in
twenty twenty twenty of black men votingRepublican at record numbers. Takes it takes

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a team to do that that wecan't do that alone. And that's why
I value team so much, andI value everyone who has given to BCF,
who has had different conversations with me, and who has taken any type
of time into helping grow the organization. I love it. I absolutely love

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it. And you know, thereare a lot of organizations, uh,
whether you're talking about latinos African Americansthat that will stick the word conservative on
the end of it and then justbe there, right, They will just
be happy to be in the roomand be happy to be someone in the
pictures. That's not what BCF doesthough. BCF actively works with campaigns in

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a relationship mutual benefit. That's onething you're always harping on, and that's
one major difference, along with thephilosophy of engaging and not enraging. So
I kind of want to open itup to you at this point to talk
about why BCF is different and howpeople can see the difference when it comes

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to these elections with the candidates wework with and even with our messaging,
which I think is really important.So we colin. We believe in meeting
it voters right exactly where they are. I believe that the black community is
historically conservative. And as you heardme say time and time again, a
black conservative is someone who dares tobelieve the teachings of their grandparents. It's

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not just listen, it's nothing thatit's weird, complicated, or confusion.
It's just is the way it is. You know, our grandparents taught us
conservative value because our grandsparents were conservative. And I believe that through those principles
and values that there is no onethat we won't reach, because there is
no place that we won't go.Yeah, and we talk about the First

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Amendment, we talk about the SecondAmendment. Those two values itself freedom of
speech and the rights to bear armsas things that we grew up learning about.
Yeah, my granddad had a niceshotgun and my grandmother and my grandma
was gonna say whatever she felt atthat moment. So we grew up.
We grew up with those values.But we even talk about limited government.

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I grew up always hearing how thegovernment was always in our business, how
the government wanted to run too muchin our lives. Okay, yeah,
that was what I've always heard.But then we talk about free enterprise,
and I think about my great grandmotherwho had her own business. She created
Um, they don't use them alot anymore, but she did drapery and

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she she actually made the drapes,sold the drapes, and then went to
their house and helped put and pelptthem put up the drapes. And we
live in a we live in anamazing country to where that dream is able
to be accomplished. And even thatwas even in the fifties and the sixties

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and the forties. You know thatthat dream is still able to be accomplished.
And that is something that you know, I look at it. Those
values. You know, we talkabout the right um, you know,
the same te and dignity of life. You know, how precious is life.
You know, I believe that allyou know, I believe that black

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lives matter. But I believe thatblack lives matter starts in the womb.
You know that we have to protectthe babies in the room. But so
I'm standing for civil rights for theunborn, you know. And so these
values is where we at the BlackConservative Federation stands very strong upon and we

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believe that these values is how wecould relate to the black community. But
you know, you and I bothknow that just you know, spearing out
the values is not enough. Thereyou go, And that's where we have
to be able to have the solutionmindset. And so if the Black Conservative

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Federation, I like to I liketo say that we are before we are
conservative. We are solutionists, andwe're going to create solutions that are going
to affect everyone. And I believethat I don't have to create solutions.
I don't have to brag about howconservative I am, a high Republican I
am. I don't have to walkaround with my elephant pan or my Republican

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red shirt because conservative principles just alwayswin. Yeah. Yeah, So if
I'm sitting across the table with aDemocrat and we're talking about police reform,
we're talking about school choice, we'retalking about how do we, you know,
develop black communities economically, how dowe develop black communities socially, Colin,

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those conservative principles is the answer toit. And that's why I always
a lot of people say, whoDeante, who's your audience, Who's the
audience of the Black Conservative Federation?And I tell people is that our audience
is a Bernie Sanders supporter. Therego, They never understand. They said,
what do you mean your audience isa Bernie Sanders supporter. I said,

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because there is. Because Republicans andthe Bernie Sanders supporters want the same
exact thing, the same exact thing. And I always go in. I
always going to that when it comesto talking to a burning Standard supporter.
Is because they said, well,you don't care about poor, poor Americans.

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And I tell them myself, Idefy you to tell me that that
you care more about the poor thanI do, because I know that the
only thing that's going to bring peopleout of poverty in America is a capitalist
society. Yeah, they say,you don't care about the kids at the
border, and I said, well, listen, before we started and I

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know we're gonna talk about Haiti ina minute, but I said, before
we even started talking about kids atthe border, you can't begin to tell
me about someone caring about kids whenyou believe in snatching babies out of a
parent, out of a mother's womb. You know, I know that the
only thing that can save our studentsis school choice. I know that the

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only thing that can save our economyis less spending. And so we want
the same things, but conservative principlesare the only things that can solve those
things. I think I'm kind ofspecials every time you do this, And

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like, even when you called meto be a part of BCF, I
looked you up, man, Ilooked you up and then listening to what
you were saying. And you know, you talk about being solution oriented,
and I feel like the goal ofBCF is to provide solutions to communities that
need it. Oftentimes, I feellike organizations like BCF and and and I'll

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even say this for organizations on theleft again, anytime it comes to minorities,
it's just about getting votes for thosecandidates on one side of the aisle.
And BCF, I think differs inthat point in that we're not just
trying to get votes for individual candidates. We're trying to talk about these principles
and how they relate to making communitiesstronger and better. And and that's definitely

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a reason why I'm a part ofthis and I think you've kind of exemplified
that or or verbalize that in youranswer to what BCF is and how we're
doing it. Um. So,before we end this segment, I gotta
go ahead and let you give ashameless plug here. How can people support
this movement? How can people supportthese voices being amplified, because there are

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a lot of other voices that aren'ttalking about the things we're talking about and
the way we're talking about them.You know, we're not trying to indoctrinate
people. We're trying to get peopleto understand that this is who they are
and that's the way we actually changehearts in mind. So, how can
people get involved with BCF, Howcan they support BCF, and how once

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again can they amplify these voices thatare so desperately needed at a time like
this. Well, the first andforemost visit our website at BCF action dot
com and that's where you can signup to be involved. You can.
You know, we have so manydifferent spectrums of the organization that we are
always looking for people to get involvedwith so many different states. We have

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people like Colin who in Ohio hedesperately needs more black Conservatives deserally need more
help as he is in the fieldthere. We also you can visit us
on social media at DCF DCF OfficialUnderscore UM that is on Twitter and Instagram

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UM, as well as Kennan theBlack Conservative Federation in the Facebook. And
then last but not least, butnot least, is that you can we
need donations. The only way thatthis runs is through UH financial donations and
financial giving. And so you canvisit our website and click the donate donation
tab or scroll to the donation taband give twenty give, you know,

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give twenty five dollars, five dollars, two dollars, you know, three
dollars, whatever it is. Everycent helps, and every cent helps gets
us to our goal and mission ofjust waking up America. I love it
BCF. Deontay Johnson and president andfounder, big time big wig out a
DC. But he's doing everything hecan to touch the people and get these

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ideas out to them in a verymeaningful way. So support BCF please,
Deontay. I know you're going tohang around for the rest of the episode
talk about some other things, andI'm excited to have you once again.
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Colin Jackson sitting in with BCF Presidentand founder Deonte Johnson. Gotta do a
quick correct correction and shout out myco host. He is on paternity leave,
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great were very really do is Leontelike things don't develop fast enough and we
only usually record twice a month wherewe get to come back to a story
we just did on the previous episode. So if you're listening to the previous
episode, you know that we werecovering the I guess we'll call it a

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board of crisis and Del Rio whereit was twelve thousand Haitians, now it's
up where it's a fourteen thousand Haitiansthat have made their way to the Del
Rio border of Texas and Mexico.They are in a what would be called
a refugee camp currently they are seekingasylum after the two Haitian earthquakes and the

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assassination of their president, which areall horrible things, and everyone should be
able to seek prosperity throughout the world. But again, as I said in
the last episode, when it comesto immigration, you know, I try
to be as utilitarian as possible.We have to do the most good for
the most people, and we haveto deal with the issues that are created

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by policy makers that make it asituation where everyone, wherever they are in
the world, feels that America isthe one place that they need to get
to and interestingly enough, those Hatianswent through about six or seven South American
countries, but they didn't try tostay there. So again, we have
Deontay Johnson here, who is anexpert in DC politics and policy, worked

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on a lot of campaigns, sodefinitely want to get his perspective here.
So Deontay, I want to bringyou in. First off, I know
BCF sent out I said they brokethe internet with a tweet that they put
out on their Twitter showing their disparityand talking about the disparity and treatment,
particularly with the images of border patrolwith the rains. I guess, Deontay,

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because rains aren't the same as whips. I guess everybody's a question in
expert nowadays. You know, tellus why bc I particularly put out that
tweet and what you kind of felt, you know, as a brown skin
American when you saw those images comingfrom the border, well, you know,
rain whip. I mean, Iguess it depends on how they use

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it. But you know it's listening. Illegal immigration is wrong, and so
I'm not going to defend Vatians comingover, you know, of course.
Yeah, so let's make that clearfor all our listeners. Illegal immigration is
wrong there, You good, it'sthe selective deportation. For me, it's

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it's you know, for an administrationthat has said time and time again that
they care about black people, fora administration that says that they're the only
ones that can save black people.Um, the treatment that black people have
received under Joe Biden, it's onlybeen eight months, has not shown that.

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And as far as I'm concerned,Joe Biden doesn't think black people exist
because as he told us conservatives thatwe weren't black if we didn't vote for
him. But you know, Ijust don't think he thinks they exist or
that they're important, because if wenoticed, since day one, he hasn't
done anything for the black community.He's done things for you know, he's
actually done more for illegal Mexicans thanhe has done for legal Black Americans.

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And so do we expect anything differentwhen it comes to black illegals. And
so you know, as I said, and I will continue to say,
and I've said on some other radiostations, is it's pretty much the wrong
complexion for protection. There's no wayother way around it. I don't disagree

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there, And I love that youbrought up the before the election. And
after the election, you know,this administration came in essentially making the unimplied
arguments they were going to rid Americaof racism. That was like, and
my co host talks about all thetime. He says, like, that's
not a real metric, right,how are you going to change that?

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And you know, for me,not only is distinguishing between immigrants based on
their melon, or treating immigrants illegalimmigrants differently based on their melon, but
also not reflecting the communities wants andwishes. And you know, I think
about just seeing his polling numbers orhis approval rating drop in the last couple

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of weeks around the vaccine mandate.Anyone who knows anything about African Americans in
this country, knows the history ofthe medical community and African Americans knows that
a vaccine mandate is not something AfricanAmericans want, right And and and like
you said here again, he's provingto us who he is, right.

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Uh. My co host is veryvery very very fervent about, Hey,
he is who we believed he was, um and he's shown it to us
every day. So I think,you know, at the border, we're
seeing it in a very very veryuh I don't like the word vibrant,

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but a very very clear way ofhow this administration views people of color.
I don't like you in that termeither, but views people of color no
matter where they come from, theiropinions don't matter. We could treat them
however they want to. And thenwhen someone asked us about why this is
happening at the border, we'll say, well, we need to investigate it.

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And I'm not sure what's going on. That seems to be the Joe
Biden playbook up there. Um,go ahead him, I'm gonna take a
different turn here. Um that takeit is listening. We could be upset
at the Biden administration, but I'mactually more upset at the Haitian Americans.

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It's because Haitian Americans voted for himin large numbers. Okay, they knew
what their country was facing. Andyou know, those who are American citizens
voted in large numbers for Joe Biden. And even the black even the black
Americans that are upset now about themforcing us to take the vaccine, about

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them forcing us to you know,you know, with all with COVID,
and they're not doing anything for BlackAmericans and all every everything that the Biden
administration is doing wrong. Guess whatcolumn. What I have to say to
them is we tried to tell you, but not only do try to tell

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you, not only did we justtry to tell you, but we spent
millions and millions of dollars to tellyou that Joe Biden was not the president
for Black America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right,
you're right, and that and that. That's one thing on the NAP
that we bring up a lot withaccountability M. We're getting off the rails.

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We'll bring it right back though.But you know, we talked about
redistricting last episode M, and wetalked about how redistricting was not a necessarily
racist concept, but it's based offof data, is based off of the
US Census, and we talked abouthow you know, in Cleveland, particular,
African Americans in the city of Clevelandonly responded at a rate about fifty

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percent, that's one out at everytwo. Uh. And then we get
upset when these districts get drawn incertain ways that say it's diluting our vote.
No, we diluted our vote bynot getting counted in those census and
then not showing up during elections,so you know, accountability is a very
big part of this um And againI would just like to say that we

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are not being critical of Haitian immigrants, critical of Haitian Americans, but we
need to be clear that you know, in America, we have a certain
amount of autonomy, We have choicesto be made, and I think in
this situation, Americans of all colorsand descent are dealing with the ramifications of

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our choices. When it comes toimmigration in particular, I want to talk
about something that's been talked about alot when it comes to del Rio Title
forty two. It's originally a COVIDprecaution, essentially locking down our borders from
asylum seekers and and anyone trying toenter the country around the COVID times right

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now, that is what they're usingto send back immigrants to where they illegal
immigrants from where they came from,and whether it Behadi or or wherever.
I just wanted to bring up that, you know, with this policy that's
been on the books, what theleft is now trying to do is equate

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what's happening now or link what's happeningnow to President Donald Trump. And I
just think that's incredibly unfair. Andit's what the left does, escapes goats
the right. You know, itsays we have no control, but when
right now Democrats are in control.They didn't have to put this policy in,
but they knew that this was theright thing to do when it comes

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to twelve thousand people trying to enteryour country at one point. So Deonta,
can you tell me how with thisparticular issue and other issues, how
you see Democrats trying to escapegoat Republicansand trying and not trying to take any
responsibility for what's happening. I knowyou're from Chicago, so I know you
know what that's like. Absolutely absolutely. You know, listen, it's always

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Republicans fault. You know, it'sRepublicans fault that Joe Biden came to figure
out how to walk into the Ovaloffice. So it's gonna always be Republicans
fault. And you know, andwe just we're just used to it,
you know. Um. And it'samazing to me that you have a leader
who is the President of the UnitedStates, the president of the free world,

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and he has the power of thecountry in his hands and still can't
take ownership for things that are happeningunder his watch, right, you know,
and if you knew that, youknow they're saying, well, these
were the Trump policies that they're taking, that they're using, and well they're

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not Trump policies, they're Biden policiesbecause it's happening in the Biden administration.
Okay, there you go. There. Let me tell you something. Biden
had no problem changing every computer,laptop desks, painting every wall in the
in the Executive Office building of theWhite House, and changing everything that the

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Trump administration touched. But he,for some reason, he forgot to change
the policy that he claimed that hedoesn't agree with. I don't buy it.
Yeah, you shouldn't buy it.You shouldn't buy it, and America
obviously isn't buying it. Matthew mentionedhis previous job approval ratings that continue to

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fall. I just think it's veryinteresting that that becomes their scapegoat for everything.
So, you know, I thinkthat will kind of close this kind
of immigration conversation by me saying,you know, I'm from Ohio. I
grew up in Cleveland. I hadthe pleasure of interning with Center Apartment when
I was just a young political Okay, I wasn't in the eighth grade,

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Yante like you, but I wasfresh out of college and I remember,
you know, one thing, whenI was in Constituent services of having to
read those pres releases, there wascentered deportment saying that our immigration system is
broken. And when I was young, I didn't really understand it. I
know it's an apartment and everybody's favoriteat the moment, but I didn't understand
what he was saying. I thinkwe had to do something about the demand

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side. We always have view somethingabout the supply side, but also that
the system as it exists didn't dowhat it need to do for the immigrants
who are coming over here illegally ina in a really dangerous situation, which
was the first thing I saw whenI saw del Rio, you know,
these people crossing his body of water, but also doesn't do what it needs
to do for our country when itcomes to the economics of immigration that is

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not legal and not properly vetted.What do you think about how Congress since
before even twenty and sixteen has kindof continued to punt on the issue of
immigration. What we like to sayis that the legislators and DC don't actually
like to legislate on anything. AndI know you probably have a closer view

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of that than anybody because I'm alwayhere in Ohio. So what do you
kind of think about where immigration policyor even that there needs to be action,
you know, real action, notexecutive orders taken by Congress to fix
these issues as they continue to comeup. Well, you know, right
now, the you know, theDemocrats have let the far left hijack their

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entire policy, in their entire platform, and when it comes to immigration,
because if you remember, Barack Obamawas big on that we need to do
something about illegal immigration. If youremember when Bush was talking about doing something
about and you know, remember Bushwas the opposite, and the Democrats kept

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fighting Bush on illegal immigration. However, now that we've moved into now that
we've moved into, you know,oh, the Trump era. They Trump
decides to build the wall. Nowthey're like, oh, you know,
we don't want to we want toprotect them and we should not go the
wall. But it's like Trump said, it's Trump said that, you know,

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maybe I should have just tolked him. I didn't want a wall and
people would have had right. Whateverthe Republicans do they are against okay,
and they always think about it asan ego. Okay, the eagle swars
up one the one, you know, the left, the right wing soars
up, the left wing towards downthe you know, the right swars up,

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the left rooms, I mean,the right wing swords down, the
left from swars up. It's it'sjust it's they just don't know, you
know, they don't know. Theydon't have a real answer. They there's
nothing they have a real answer for. All they know is that they want
to go against the grain. Theywant to go against what the what the
Republicans are doing. And that's theirentire that's their entire plan. They don't

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have a plan. Their plan isto combat whatever the Republicans want. Okay,
if the Republicans say, hey,we want to release all black people
from jail, they're even like,well, no, we don't want to
release all black people from jail becausesome black people. It's just that's just
how they are, you know.And that's what we have to dealt with

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in Washington for far too long,is the Democrats don't have a plan.
That just reacted to whatever the Republicanswant to do. You know, I
think that's I think that's very poignant. And again, something we say on
the show all the time is profitingoff the pain for votes, for capital,
whatever it is. And you know, I think this particular issue is

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a great example of that, andDemocrats have I gotta say that Democrats have
outdone themselves on this one. It'snot just about profiting off the pain of
black people when dealing with police anymore. It's not profiting off the pain of
black people dealing with how we cameto this country and what some of the
ramifications of it are, those things, but now it is literally profiting off

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of the pain of people who weren'teven in this country. And it's still
black people, though, just blackpeople from another place in this world.
Listen, none other political podcast isgoing to be one that is praying for
everyone at the border, whether it'sour border patrol, the people seeking asylum.

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We want good outcomes for all ofthem, and we also really want
good outcomes for this country. Butwe are not going to do that by
paying playing political games with people's lives, which is what the Democrats are doing
right now. I want to makesure we understand this. It's that you
know, we're entire illegal immigration.But we're so as as a party,

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but as a country, we arevery pro immigration. But you gotta do
it legally. You know, yougotta come over here illegally. You gotta
do the proper steps and listen.If there's a problem within our immigration system
where it's taking too long, let'sspeed up the process. Yes, well,
you come over here, you needa background check before you come over
here. You need to go throughthe proper checks that it's in that you

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know that we have in the countryto make sure that we know who you
are and who's over here. Now. The one thing that I just never
see though, and even when wetalk about the Mexicans at the boarder,
okay, they make us to justto go in now, just to go
into some restaurants in New York andsome other places, get a COVID test.

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I haven't heard them talking about anythingabout COVID tests at the border.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ithink I heard that for the first time
today. And that is an inconsistency, just as Democrats are showing guests area
inconsistent in every other way. Deanta, I don't want to cut you off,
because we got one more really goodsegment to get to. But I
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I am here with the President ofBCF, Deontay Johnson. We are
finishing up this great episode of theNAP. I'm not sure if you're listening,
Deontay to the other episodes, butsecond to three is where we always
have a little bit of fun andwe kind of merge black culture and politics.
Last weekend, we talked about NickiMinaj and the vaccine. But I
want to talk about something with youthat most black people in the country don't

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think black conservatives indulging or participating,which is so food. So this segment,
we're gonna talk about our Sunday dinners. I know you like to cook,
So before we get into who's comingto Sunday dinner, tell me what
you've been cooking up in the lastrecent weeks. Because if you follow Deontay,

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you know he's always in the kitchen, always showing us a new recipe.
So what you've been cooking lately,Deonta, Well, Colin, I
ain't showing y'all too many recipes becauseif I tell y'all that, you know
the rest. But you know,it's whatever. You know what soul food
means how you're feeling. You know, it's the soul. And so it's

(40:58):
literally with what my soul feels.You know. This week this Sunday,
it was pot roast and chicken umwith some greens and mac and cheese and
so um. You know, it'sjust it just depends on both the flow.
Just go with the flow. Yeah, Deonte likes to he's a globe
trot. He got two things Iremember about this man, he's got a
selfie with probably every political that ablack conservative maybe like, or just like,

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he's got a selfie with every oneof them. And whatever city he's
in, he's looking for the bestsoul food he can get. Um.
I don't I don't know where hewas a couple of weeks ago, but
he was looking for some fish orsomething like that. So it's real important.
Um. So at your at yoursoul food dinner, you talked about
the greens, the macarronie. Uhfor me, Uh, I gotta have

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greenis I gotta have mcarronie. Alsolike Jeffy corn Brad, I gotta have
a Jiffy corn Brad. I don'tlike, uh the sfty stuff I wanted
sweet that's kind of me. Um. I particularly like a little bit of
pork in my greens. I'm sorry, Fare, I know you can't listen
to this because you're a band fromall media platforms, but I like all

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that stuff. Um. And youknow I don't particularly cook, so all
I do is normally bring the paperplates. Uh, maybe maybe a couple
of adult beverages. Whatever I cando. Um, But you know when
we talk about you talked about soulfood and being what you feel right.
Um, and with conservative particular,they think we don't have any feelings.

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But just as the important is whatyou bring to the soul food dinner is
who you bring. So for me, of course, you know, if
I had to bring a couple ofpolitical people in particular, I would of
course bring Senator Temp Scott. Um. You know, I feel like his
Carolina uh southern hospitality would be great. Um. Uh, you know,

(42:47):
I think he would be great atthose dinner. I think uh, our
buddy down in Florida would also begood. Um. You know, who
are you bringing to your soul fooddinner on Sunday? Deante, Well,
you know it's gonna it's gonna takeme a month because we gotta separate.
You know, you know one thingabout so food dinners and same thing about
cook actually can't bring. You haveto watch the people you bring because everybody

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ain't gonna blend well together right rightright right right right right. But you
know what, you know, Iwould bring Tim Scott, Byron and Burges
and just have a conversation. Listen, listen, boys, Let's figure out
how we can take this number ofthree and make it thirteen. Let's take
three and make it thirty UM,and so and you know this really talk

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about how we can continue to grow, to grow this movement UM and grow
that Tim Scott is not the makesure that Tim Scott is not the only
Black Republican UM senator in the UnitedStates Senate, and making sure that Byron
and Burges are not the only blackUM congressmen and on the republic to conside.

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And so how can we rowe this, How can we provide that support,
what candidates can we get behind,and how can we make this happen?
You know, I love that?And then you know, I think
there are lots of allies UM withinthe conservative UH side of the aisle that
can also be invited to soul foodSunday. UM. But I would like

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to ask you, you know,as far as conservatives go, UM,
and we talk about soul food Sunday, what are like the things that we
should be looking for when we're invitingsomebody to the cook allage, Who are
soul food Sunday When it comes toRepublican candidates in particular, Well, they
gotta be able to clean a boneof chicken. Don't you know you're not

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gonna come sit at my table andleave meat on the chicken bone right right,
right right. This ain't gonna dothat. Don't raise it in the
potato salad. Right. But youknow what you also you gotta be willing
to fight for the hamhock. Okay, all right? You know, um,
And you can't run from the hamhoc. You know, I can't have

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I kid you not that I'm tella story. Um. I had someone
at my house. UM, andI won't say the week because that may
give away to them if they're listening. Um, and they said, yeah,
what is that. I'm like,it's a hamhock. Um. And
you know, you just feeled allthe stereotypes that the left has for black

(45:27):
Republicans right right right, right right, And so you gotta be able to
eat. But you know you alsolisten. Um. I look at the
family table, because at the endof the day, when we sit down
to gather that we are a family, and as a black Conservatives were a
family. You know, there's somedisagreement, there's some um differences, but
that's what a family is all about. And so when we sit down to
the as a as a family,we have to come to the table with

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solutions. Everybody has to bring somethingto the table. Um not just know
we're not talking about food, buteverybody has to bring something intellect to the
table. I would love to host, and you just gave me an idea
with this show is in February,and I'm kind of delegating as well,

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but in February, you just gavean idea of wanting to host. You've
seen the movie Soul Food, rightto host a big old soul food dinner
amongst black conservatives. And this iswhere we all come together. We sit
down at the table and we discusshow do we move forward as black conservatives?

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How can we support one another?Because family members support each other.
How can we support one another?How can we as black conservatives help uplift
each other? How can we helpour candidates that are Black Conservatives and that
are running for Congress and send itin state House and state Rep and God

(47:00):
and everything else? How can wesupport these individuals? But if you think
about just what Sunday Dinners all aboutis where everybody came together to Grandmother's house.
Yeah, and that's where it waspretty much the reset for the week.

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Yeah, it was where you know, I don't know about you,
but that's where if I gotta ifI got a low grade on an assignment,
that's where everybody gave me an electionon how important it was for me
to do better the next time.Yep, yep, yeah, it's where
everybody is on the hot seat atone point. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I heard, you know, Iheard k coach James once say this

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about they was asking her about Juneteenthand it becoming a holiday, and I
heard her say that that June teenthshould be a day that we host family
reunions because Juneteenth is a time thatwe, you know, June teens is
time that we should be valuing family, the black family, and one thing

(48:05):
that we don't do enough of.And I hear so many people talk about,
you know, the father is missingout of the home. You know,
just not you know, you're notyou don't have two parent households,
you don't have parents and do wegotta get back to valuing family and we
gotta make family sexy again. Yeah. Yeah, And that's what we gotta
get back to, budd as aconservative movement, we gotta we gotta make

(48:30):
sure that we're operating as a familyum because that's the only way that we're
going to grow. I agree,and I agree, and I just wanted
to go back because, well,again, so Food Sunday, you know
this, this sounds like something weneed to do. But I want to
go back to something you said aboutfighting for fighting over the ham hock or
making sure that you know, youknow the importance of the hamhot part.

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What I'll say though, is thatyou know, BCF is about black conservatives
and you know, building more ofthose and getting more of those in,
but particularly when we're talking about ourallies on this conservative side, because we
can't build black conservatives without conservatives beingon board with that. But I think
you know, when we talk aboutour allies coming to our Sunday dinner table,

(49:19):
they need to you know, justlike they need to be concerned with
what they're eating and understand the relevanceof that. We need conservatives also to
be comfortable at that table talking aboutblack issues right and not be in a
position where they're trying to run fromthem. So you know, while we're
coming together as a family, wewant everyone to be included in the family.
It's not a one race thing onthis Soul Food Sunday. But when

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you come to the table, youneed to know what the importance of the
ham hawk is, and you needto know that there shouldn't be raises and
potato salad, and you need tobe comfortable talking about those things and engaging
with the other people at that table. So I you know, I'll just
say that this conversation that we're havingabout what soul Food Sunday is is really

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an invitation to black white whoever youare understanding that there's a table that you
can come to BCF as it's goingto be a big leg in that table
going forward. And I just wantto thank you Beyonte for coming on the
show talking to us about what you'redoing and all the things that BCF is
doing and how we can build onthose things moving forward and empower individuals across

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this nation. So once again,thank you for coming. And you know,
hopefully we'll be able to have eitheryou or somebody else from the organization
back real soon, absolutely anytime.It's my pleasure. All right. Well,
with that, we will close episodeeighteen. None of the political podcasts.
This has been the nap and wewill see you on the other side.

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