Game Changers, Raya and the Last Dragon, and The Princess Bride

Welcome to episode sixty-five! We're working on resolving all of our recent technical issues, so thanks so much for your patience in the meantime! This week, Rich is finally getting a clean take on Might Ducks: Game Changers on Disney Plus, and we both watched Raya and the Last Dragon now that it's available to stream. Plus Natalie is covering a classic family adventure, The Princess Bride. Let's have some fun!

Thanks as always to Shad Warrell for creating our music. Check him out over at soundcloud.com/shad-warrell.

Episode Transcript

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All right, welcome to Not Suitablefor Adults podcasts, kids stuff. Man.
Take four thousands, you guys,So let's start. Let's start.
Lets the whole beginning. Everybody knowsthat we had a terribly garbled, bad
static episode a couple of months ago. Yeah, and that's when we realized

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we're having some input issues with Rich'scomputer. We would just test before each
episode to make sure that it wasn'tbeing all weird, and after the problem
episode, it worked fine for awhile, it worked fine for a little
bit. We went on vacation,and because we were going on vacation,

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and we prerecorded an episode so thatyou guys wouldn't have to miss out on
too much. Yep. Um.We got to the hotel that evening,
Rich went to edit or post orwhatever on his computer that he brought with
him. He opened his computer andhis computer had completely reset itself. Yeah,
like factory reset. Well weirdly,like all my files were gone.

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Yeah, so my editing program wasthere, A video program I used for
other projects was there? Um,just the file so like my my my
uh it was weird, like myuh background was reset. There were no
icons on my desktop. All myfiles were gone. He um shut his

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laptop in a fit of rage.I sounded it close. He slammed it
close. He was quite frustrated,and I was like, listen, we're
on vacation. Everybody can just understand. It's fine. We'll figure it out
when we get home. So wegot home. Rich goes to open his

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laptop and try to figure out whathappened, and all of his files are
back. Yeah, it healed itself. It healed itself, which you know
sometimes technology does. So that's theepisode you guys got that we thought was
a last episode. Okay, acouple of weeks ago, we also went
ahead and recorded an episode, andjust last week we record our normal episode.

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We got through the whole episode andsuddenly Audacity, which is our program
that we used, just froze up. After we were literally doing like the
outro. Yeah, it froze up. We were like, okay, let's
see what where we need to startback. We started with the recording and
it did that static grossness, andyet again Rich was just fit to be

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tied. Um, I'm on thehunt for a new laptop. It's a
it's a laptop's fault. It's notthe program's fault, right, um,
but now we are on my computer. UM, hopefully this is going to
work also today right now, thisis our third go Yeah. Yeah.

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We we did several like initial takesto like try and get it, and
then like yet figured out, gotit, let's start and we uh we
stopped for Luckily it wasn't at thevery end of our episode. It froze
like in the first four minutes ofrecording, so about close to now.
Actually it's when it started. Itfroze, so Rich just grabbed my laptop
and downloaded all of the programs itneeded. Um. During that take that

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we were doing just a few minutesago, I was holding my phone.
Um, we were trying to figurestuff out, and um, um my
palm was hitting my phone and Ididn't realize it, and it erased all
of my notes that I was goingto use today. So I am going
to use Wikipedia, and I thinkit should have everything that I was going

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to talk about anyway, But usuallyI go to Wikipedia, or I go
to a couple of different sites andher own notes. She actually takes notes.
I do, I compile. Icompile what I want to talk about.
But all of those notes were erased. Um, not seven minutes ago.
Yeah, the it is the itis whatever in the cosmos controls podcasts.

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Yes, um, and we aresorry for whatever we did. Yes,
the podcast entities are angry at usand we don't know why. And
maybe it's because we don't believe inthem. I mean, it's true,
we don't believe believe in them.Okay, let's try to podcast. We're

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going to podcast you guys. We'reusing my computer. Hopefully it works out,
and we're just doing our best.We're doing our best blacking. And
that's the thing is, we're notslacking. We literally have been recording podcasts
that have been erased or not resileor whatever. So we're here we go

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again, Here we go again.Um. All right. So so,
yeah, this is the third timeI've talked about this particular subject. I'm
not sure, but I have talkedabout I am so tired of here.
Every single time an episode has garbled, I've talked about this thing. So
maybe it's this topic that is messingup the podcast. Maybe we shouldn't talk

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about it. That doesn't make anysense because it's Mighty Ducks Game Changers.
It's the show that's on Disney Plusbased on the original amazing movie series called
The Mighty Ducks, and I wantto I'm gonna say the things that I've
said three times in a row ornot. That's the thing, so I've
I've already we talked about it earlier. I'm just going to give a very
fast rundown of this show this time. I've in the previous two attempts,

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I've done more of a like fullbreakdown. I have seen the whole thing.
There's ten episodes of the show,but I'm not going to do a
full So that's one season. Willthey be more seasons? Or did it
end? Everyone has? Everyone sofar has indicated a second season is forthcoming.
It hasn't officially been like Greenlitt,I don't think by Disney. But

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like Emilia is talking about next season, the producers are talking about next season.
So in theory, unless something liketerrible happens, there will be a
season two of Mighty Ducks Game Changers. Okay, I won't do a recap
like I did the last few timesof the Mighty Ducks movies. You all
are in there. There's a scrappygroup of kids. They shouldn't work,
they shouldn't be good at hockey togetherbut they are just like the Big Green

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and soccer, just like the Sandlotand baseball. Yes, so except all
those kids like really practice baseball,so they were all actually good. Just
the one kid was bad at baseballin the Sandlot. Yeah. Um,
here's the point, um that sothat's the original movies. This is actually
set. This is not there's notbutt up against those movies. It's set

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like in the present. Um.I'll give a quick just sort of synopsis
of what the situation is when theseason starts. There's a young young man.
I don't have any of those showinformation in front of me right now
because we're on a different computer.Yeah, so I didn't. I don't
have it in front of me.There's a young man, Um Morrow,
I feel like, no, notMorrow. He has last name um Um.

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He is on the the Mighty Ducks. He's on the the He's on
the team, the team that existsbecause of the original movies in whatever little
town in Minnesota. That's that isset right. Um, He's on the
Mighty Ducks. His mom is ais like a you said. His mom

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is Lauren Graham. Yeah, laLauren Graham moralife from the Gilmor from Gilmore
Girls. Um, she's like ashe's not a lawyer, but she's like
an aide. She's like a paralegalat I don't know what the difference is.
At the ducks Worth Law Firm,which is the law firm from the

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original Mighty Ducks movie, it's it'sthe one that Bombay worked for it in
the first Mighty Ducks. Um.And so she works there and she's alone.
It's it's her like she and sheand her husband are divorced. She's
taking care of her son by herself, and she's just doing her best to
like be a good mom, workand make a living, and also support

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him in his extracurriculars, which unfortunately, from the very beginning it seems like
isn't working out because they're like latetoo, They're constantly late to practices,
um. And because of that,her son is like falling behind and not
being as good as the other team. As the rest of the team,
he gets cut from the Mighty Ducks. And that that's like it makes you

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your heart go out to those peoplethat are literally trying to do everything totally
by themselves with no extra support,and yet they still make it to the
games and they still do their bestanyway. The coach of the New Mighty
Ducks is Riley from Letter Kenny.Yes, Letter Kenny is suitable for adults.

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It is not suitable for children.And I'm telling you adults right now.
I better watch it. You guys. You got to let that Marinie.
It is one of the fust thingsI've ever seen. There are a
couple bits that I feel like arelike, Okay, I'm over this,
Like, let's move on. Butit's they really like to talk about farts.

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Well, they're Canadian and apparently that'sa thing. I feel like there
might be a thing. Okay,here, hang on, let's do a
quick aside because we haven't talked aboutthis. Here's several things. We're not
going to swear anything. But everythingwe're talking about right now is for grown
ups. Yes, um, Natalieasked me about this. You're watching Letter
Kenny and they do talk about fartsa lot on that show. They have

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a lot of sort of running bits, but most of them age out after
a season or two, but fartsare present throughout always, and I don't
think it's particularly funny. So whenwe get when they get to those bits,
I'm like, Okay, let's getover and get to the funny stuff.
So Natalie asked me, we watchedthis separately. I watched the whole
thing and then Natalie watched the wholething and she was like, what's the

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deal with farts? I was like, here's the thing. I was like,
I don't know. I don't haveany research into this. I have
only two points of data when itcomes to Canadians and farts. I have
Letter Kenny, where almost every episodehas a fart joke, right, and
I have every reference to Canadians inSouth Park, which also has them constantly

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did in fart jokes, and solike, I don't know, and that
was pre Letter Kenny, and soI don't know if that's a thing,
like if Canadians are just really intofart jokes, yeah, or if this
just happens to be a coincidence.But there are a lot of fart jokes
and Letter if you guys know ifyou're Canadian, oh man, please yeah,
there's a handful of you in Canada. We know that because we can

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see the tracking on our we cansee our geolocation Canadian. Would you please
let us know if like fart jokesare like a thing for our country,
or if or if the much morecommon thing, the much more likely thing,
which is that we in America havegeneralized you to a certain set of
jokes, right, maybe we justalthough I'm pretty sure we are completely wrong,

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I mean, which is probably whatI'm pretty sure. Jerry Kiso is
Canadian, so like that show's madebad, Yes, absolutely, but anyway,
Yeah, if you know, ifyou're from Canada or any of the
northern states that we love to know, yeah, are connected to Canada,
and you know these answers. Wedo fart jokes here, which absolutely do,
but it goes to the point ofalmost a little too much for me,

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and that's just me personally speaking.So anyway, if you've watched Letter
Kenny and you know the and youknow the job because you know the hockey
guys, Yes, Riley is thelong hair, blonde guy, is like
the the head coach of the NewDucks, and the New Ducks are like
the Hawks from the original Terrible.He's bad, he's all about he's all

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about wins. He doesn't care aboutkids having fun. It's still peewee hockey.
The Mighty Ducks turned into what theyfought against exactly in the original exactly
right. And where's Gordon Bombay?No one knows? Ye dead? No
false, he didn't die. Iknow because you told me so. Anyway,
the mom wants to cheer her sonup after he gets cut and and

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so she decides she's going to starther own team, a new team in
the same dimension Lauren Graham. Thatsounds like such a Lauren Graham thing.
It is such a luring. Sheattempts to start her own hockey team with
her son, and they have tolike go find all the kids, all
the kids at the school who likedon't play hockey and aren't interested in playing

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hockey, because they have to makea team. Yeah, and so they
put together a new ragtag diverse groupof kids. They are able to steal
one kid away from the Ducks becauselike, and it's the girl that the
boy has a crush on U.And so just to let you know what
that looks like, there's like agamer kid who like plays video games in

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his basement all the time, andhe becomes the goalie because his reflexes are
so good. Okay, Yeah,there's a kid who is my favorite part
of the show. I think hisname is Alex Simpkins. Again, I
don't have it in front of me. That's the real life person's name.
Yes, he plays the plucky likecomic relief best frame character, and he
is legitimately the funniest person on theshow. They give all the best lines

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to this kid. Keep an eyeon him because when he gets a little
bit older, he's going to bereally funny. Well, we kind of
said the same thing about um Dustinwhat's his face from Stranger Things? Yeah?
Yeah, although I think I feellike, didn't he here's another here's
another quick side. Didn't he havelike a punk style prank show that like

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went under because it was way overthe line. Oh I don't. I
think he did, but I don'tremember that. And I think it's weird
because he's like not old. He'slike fifteen or something. Yeah, he's
a baby. And he and theygave him a show and he's like,
all right, cool, let's goto this. This is not real,
but it was, but it's notfar off. He was like, let's
go to these people's house and burntheir house. And they were like,

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oh no, like we wanted fun, we wanted something fun. We don't
want to hurt people. He's like, I think we should hurt people.
No, I don't believe you hedid. That's not. What I just
said is false. But it's notfalse that he proposed a lot of way
too extreme pranks and they decided notto develop. Well, probably because he's
fifteen and doesn't know I mean,I don't know how old he is.

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He was a teenager Alex Simpkins,assuming I'm remembering his name correctly, very
funny. Um. And so theyput together this group. There's like two
girls who like one wears a capeto school and she's like a D and
D. And there's a girl who'slike on the cheerleading squad, but she's
kind of like the black sheep ofthe of the cheerleading girls. Um.
And they become best friends and soanyway that they're able to successfully compile a

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team across the ten episodes of theseason, Uh, they go through the
things you expect them to go through. So like it's it's mainly a pre
teen drama. Yeah, and solike, uh, there comes a point
when the main kid gets an opportunityto play for the Ducks again. It's
like do I do I go backto the really cool good hockey team,
yeah? Or do I play forthis bad hockey team that I'm that we've

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made and we're building from the groundup. Yeah, well we learn how
to play hockey. Of course hewill, because guess what. At the
end of episode one, they foundgorm Bombay. They found him. He
owns in the gather. He ownshe owns a really bad ice rink.
Rink exactly. They literally track nowbecause like there's it's like there's two ice

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rinks in town and and no oneknows about the second one. One's the
good one. And he's basically like, no, I hate hockey, and
Lauren Graham's like, I'll pay forthe ice time and he's like, well,
okay, then like he so itturns out he hates hockey. I
won't tell you why, but he'slike he's gone through a lot of drama
in his own life. Uh.And so anyway, then we get to

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the other side of it. Andlike I said, it's a preteen drama.
So the beats are not unexpected.The things that happen are are very
obvious. Um, especially if wewatched the old movies like that, it
sort of follows a pattern and sonothing is surprising, but it's all very
fun and very good. Um,it feels like there's like a thing about

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getting people like super into Maybe it'sjust because I watched Letter Kenny and then
saw it like this was this camefrom me right after I watched Letter Kenny
and so it feels like for me, it feels like, man, every
show's about hockey, but it's not. But but also like but with not
even about hockey. There are alot of it's about hockey. There's a
lot of hockey, but it's notabout hockey. Will snipe selly boys,

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um. And so anyway, it'svery good. It's very very good.
Um, it's it's worth watching.There's a lot of like complex things.
So it's probably not for little thelittlest kids. But nothing's inappropriate. Nothing
happens on the screen that you wouldn'twant any kid to be, just that
they may not have the attention.It's really especially for parents, like people

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in their mid thirties like me whoenjoy the Mighty Ducks, right, who
have kids? Are that are theright age to like be watching a show
You're like here like yeah, lovewhat I love. They even they even
bring back about half of the originalMighty Ducks. Like kids at one point.
Um, it's really cool, likeit's a fun sort of memory lane
romp Um. Yeah, it isworth watching. I won't say anything more

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about it because I don't want toanger the podcast lords. Um. So
I'm gonna switch gears to something thatwe both watched recently. Yes, and
we will not spoil it, eventhough we had to talk him out of
spoiling this. Here's the thing.I'm you know me, everyone who listens

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here knows me. I'm all aboutmaking sure we give that spoiler alert.
Yes. Um, but this it'sweird, so I think, and I'm
gonna blame Disney. This is Disney'sfault. Um. Disney has done this
thing now where Riyah and The LastDragon, the next thing we're going to
talk about, Yes, has beenout for a couple of months, right
right, just like they did MoveOn. It's in theaters or it's on

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like a premium access right yeah,where you can spend a buttload of money
and twenty or thirty dollars and watchit for watch this movie. But so
so it only like in the lastweek and a half has come on Disney
Plus where you can just watch itright. Um, And so I agree

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since it's still a short period oftime where we figure probably most people didn't
pay for premiere access and didn't goto the movie theater or watch right,
the Last Dragon Rya and the LastDragon. Um, we won't spoil it,
right, but there's a ton oftalk. But there's a ton to
talk about. And so the bestthing about the movie ready one, two

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three, A sure, um,Aquafina is in this one. She is
the Last Dragon whose name is csu. Yes, Um, she's great.
Man. I love Aquafina and Ionly know her in two things.
Yeah, you know how Um.I mean, she's been a ton of
things. The thing is is thatshe's in a ton of things, and

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she's a music artist, and thatI do not follow any musicians. You
don't follow her career, No,I don't. I honestly don't know who's
popular as far as music goes.We're pretty amatire. We're out of touch
s far as um current musicians.And when I say current, I mean
like in the past ten years,right, um, because we're we're totally

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those like, um, eighties youknow those people who only listen to eighties
rock and barbershop quartete music where thoseum, I love some good nineties and
some early two thousand jams too.Um, as long as they're barber in
five oh, man, I reallyloves me in five oh. Yes.
Um, not a lot of peopleunderstand why whatever I think? I'm sorry.

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I think a few people might understandwhy? Oh you tell me why?
Oh? Is it because there's likea hunky like relatable guy as their
front man? Honestly, it's becauseI love singing with them. Yeah,
and they're right near voice, rightin my voice range. M Adam Levine
sings right in my voice, like, let's leave that. Sure. I

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don't know Aquafina from her music career, right I, And I only know
her from now Ryan the Last Dragon, Ya ya ya Ryan the Last Dragon,
and um the second newer Jimungji movie, which she was also really good.
So she plays you know how,So this is not Pixar, it's

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Disney animation, right, Um?You know how Disney makes movies, and
they always have like a very likesort of a serious main character, not
serious necessarily, but like a regularrole main character, and then like a
plucky, yes beyond plucky, likean over the top uh psychic allah Mushoe
and the Genie right right right,right, this is this is c Su,

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this is Aquapina's character. Yeah,she's the one that like like,
well maybe she doesn't break the fourthwall, but she she's the one that
like in this sort of ancient FarEastern like sort of nebulous like what culture.
It seems like it seems like it'smeant to sort of it's meant to
mirror Chinese culture in a lot ofways, but it's never spoken though.

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It's that so it's a um,it's sort it's a sort of mythical Far
Eastern culture. Right. Something youpointed out, which we are really appreciated
was that all of the main characterssave maybe one, we're all Asian character
Asian actors being used as the voices. Yeah, Disney did a great job

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of casting um, of casting peoplewith So this isn't people doing accents,
right, it's it's legitimate and it'sum yeah, it's not anything that people
would go like, it's it's actuallyAsian characters playing Asian Asian actors playing Asian

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character and the only highly builled likenon Asian um actor is Alan Tudick voicing
an animal character, always voicing ananimal character, and always voicing the dumb,
goofy animal character. That's just withthe main right, and we love
Alan Tudas amazing. Um, soyeah, it's Um, here's a funny

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thing. And so, like Isaid, we're not gonna give a lot
of details. Uh you can here'ssome information you can tell from the previews.
Um, there is we're in thisculture, um where they revere dragons
as sort of a as these beingsthat long ago saved the world. Um,
and and events can transpire that leadto uh, sort of the world

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breaking, like all of the allthe cultures of the world sort of go
to war with one another. Andthere's a hint there's a there's a suggestion
that there's one dragon out there stillwho who might be able to save the
world. And it's RYA's duty totrack that dragon down. And so that's
why it's right in the Last Dragon. Right. Um, we watch this

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and if you know the typical Disneyprescription when it comes to making a movie,
it does follow this. Yeah,but there are certain little things where
I was actually surprised by something.I agree because I could I could pretty

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much predict, Oh there's gonna bea betrayal here. Oh this is gonna
be Um, one of the pluckycharacter. Oh, this is going to
be the you know, the conflicthere because we'll come back later. We'll
see that later, right, becauseit's Disney Um and Disney kind of follows
a pattern. But there were acouple times where I went, oh,

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I didn't expect that. Well,so I'm gonna I will give these This
is very broad. This isn't storypoints. It's just something that happens.
Um, if you're okay with it, I'm gonna I'm gonna double check with
the you're okay with it before Igo forward. So here's a break.
I'm gonna talk about the six yearslater, and I'm gonna talk about the
sort of post apocalyptic look at it. Yeah, okay, cool, Okay.

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So he literally broke to tell mewhat he was gonna say, and
I was like, yeah, okay, Yeah, I just want to make
sure because I want to I likethis movie a lot. Yeah, it
was really It would be really easyto talk about it a lot. I
wish Cora was a little more interestedin it. Yeah, but Cora very
rarely just sits and watches movies.But anyway, so here, so here

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with a couple of things, Ihaven't exactly the same moment in the movie,
so you don't have to worry aboutlike big spoilers. I'm going to
talk about a story point, soif you don't want to hear it,
skip ahead a few minutes. Um, But this thing happened. So this,
So the first twenty minutes or soare setting up this the world.
You're learning who everyone is, youmeat Riyah. You figure out that she's
in charge, like that, she'sone of these people connected to the sort

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of the dragons or not quite religiousbut almost disperspective, well reverence, like
you said, they're highly revered.And then the world breaking moment happens.
Yeah. Um. And up untilthat moment, literally Natalie and I were
like thrown back and forth references arelike, oh, this is that,
this is that, this is that, this is that. Yeah, And
and so that happens, right yep, And now's oh yep, she falls

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in the water. Now she's gonnahave to she's gonna float away from everyone,
She's gonna be safe, and thenlike it fades to black, and
then it fades back up on likea desert and it goes six years later,
And both me and Natalie were likeOh, yeah, it was.
It was not one of those thingswhere the characters get to immediately pluck up
their courage and decide this is whatI'm gonna do. Like, it wasn't

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an immediate it was suddenly like,oh, Rya has grown up now and
she's figuring all this out. Likeit's it's no longer a little kid like
figuring things out. Now we havea adult who is trying to fix the

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world. And I think that bothkind of took us by surprise when I
did that. Also, I wantedto say, the first scene, and
it's not even the scene, it'sthe first shot of the movie is of
just this like stone. Oh yeah, it's like a stone. It's not
even a statue. It's like apedestal or something like that. Yeah,

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it's just like this marking stone,like coming up out of the waters.
Yeah. Well, I don't rememberexactly where it was, but I'm just
saying it's the first shot of themovie. And I almost said to Rich,
I said, oh, I thoughtthis was animated. It's yeah,
because yes, just looking at it, I thought it was real stone,
Like it looked like a real shotfor real life. Yeah, most of

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the animation is insane. Most ofthis movie. If you took the people
out of this movie, Yeah,it looks like real landscapes. Yeah,
a lot of it. Oh,the landscaping is amazing. It's a beautiful,
beautiful movie. Yeah. But yeah, it's just this really cool thing.
Like it comes up. It comesup when we're in the future,
so yeah, now we're dealing withan adult, we're not dealing with a
child, and and it's like thisreally cool Like I feel like Disney hasn't

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ever done a post apocalyptic right setting, and that's what this is very much.
Yeah, Like the world is dryas a husk. Yeah, and
there's people who are like barely survivingthe thing that is starting in the world,
which we want to boil. Umright, so um, but yeah,

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it's a it's it's very cool andand I mean, beats come back
around you, things happen that you'reexpecting. It's predictable, but not in
a way where you don't enjoy it, right, It's predictable in a way
where you're like where you're like,okay, I can see Disney in this.
Yeah, they sort of take youalong for They'll take you along for
like a few minutes and then dosomething a little bit different and it's just

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enough of like oh okay, AndI think we both went like, oh
that's very mulan ish or oh that'svery um. I forgot what else we
said, like, well, nowI'm not going to remember. I think
I'm thinking mulan because that also wasYeah. Um, but yeah, it's

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a really we really enjoyed it.Yeah, for sure, Um, go
watch it. It's on Disney Plus. It's on Disney Plus. If you've
got it, go watch it.Um. And if I guess if I
don't think it's theaters anymore, probablyI don't know. Are people going to
theaters now? I guess I canmy parents do. If you're going to
theaters and it's still in a theaternear you, check it out there.

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My parents go to go to thetheater and they're just limited as to where
they can sit. And Ryan Swordis really cool. I'm deeply into swords.
Sword is very cool. Weapons verycool. Yeah. Anyway, so
uh that's Ryan the Last Dragon.It's a it's a recommend. It's a
good one. Just watch it.Just watch it for Aquafina, watch it

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for aquafy, Oh my goodness,and then tweet at Aquafina and tag Us.
She's pretty cool. She does areally her voice. Yeah, her
voice is so unique. Let's talkabout this too, because her character they
actually make look a lot like her. Yeah, we talked talked about her
character because um similar to Oh she'sokay, so she's a dragon, but

(30:23):
she can take human forms sometimes.Yeah, so I mean that's not spoiling
anything. But in her human form, she looks her face looks like Aquafina's
face, and even like even intracking form, like before she before we
saw her like change shape. Shewas making like she was making these like
facial expressions where you're like, okay, like that they did, like what

(30:45):
they did with the genie in Aladdin, like the genie looks like Robin Williams.
Yeah, yeah, and I thinkthey did that here too. I
think Csu looks like Aquafina and thatmakes it really good. And it made
us go, like, Okay,did they make c Sue for Aquafina or
did Aquafina make ce Sue be Aquafina? Hard to say? Who knows?

(31:07):
Someone knows. Yeah, if youknow, if you work for Disney,
Oh my god, on the productionteam. Yeah, first of all,
hello, oh my goodness, andsecond of all, we love your work,
and then third of all, tellsyour secrets anyway, So that's all.
I'm It's a very Disney heavy episodeso far. So that's a lot

(31:29):
of that's a lot all at once. Take a quick break. Let's pull
over in Promoville that we almost missedthe exit. We have a slam on
the braise and we're back. Natalie, Hi, let's work. This is

(31:51):
gonna be good. Okay. I'mworried about it because all my notes are
gone, like I told you,guys, are gone. How much time
do I have left? By theway, Um, I'm just really hoping
that I do it justice because thisis a classic, It was a classic,
and it's a family film. Yes, this is okay. So I'm
going to talk about The Princess Bride. And this is not a children's movie.

(32:19):
It is labeled as a family film. Yeah, it's like a family
adventure. But I watched it asa child, sure, and have always
thoroughly enjoyed it. I cannot tellyou how old I was when I watched
it, because I honestly don't rememberyesterday. So friend savages like seven in
it, so oh that does nothingfor me. But thank you for trying

(32:44):
to do that. So The PrincessBride was adapted by the book from nineteen
seventy three by William Goldman. Itwas released in the United States on September

(33:05):
twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven,and it was well received, but it
was only kind of a modest boxoffice success at the time. Yeah.
Over the over time though, ithas become more of a cult absolutely film.
It's ratings and awards from just beingthe classic that it is our numerous

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Is there a dog having a nightmareor something? Or is she just itching
herself? I think she's okay.Um, sorry, she's just making a
lot of noise. So at thebeginning, we see a grandfather coming in
to visit his sick grandson. Grandfatheris Peter Falk. Thank you, Colombia.
I don't have yes, I don'thave my notes pulled up, so

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I said, I feel like Isound like I don't know what I'm talking
about. Yes, Peter Falk.And he is talking to his grandson,
who is Um Fred Savage. Correct. Um. At first, Fred is
like, no, Grandpa, Idon't even remember what his name is.
You know what's funny? Um,He's just like the grandson. Yeah,

(34:21):
and the grandpa. Um, it'sit's funny because it's like the mid eights,
like the mid eighties, and thegrandpa's like. The grandpa's like,
I'm gonna read you a book,and the kids like books. Well he
the grandpa walks in and the kidsplaying like what is he playing? Like
pong or something like? Yeah?Um, and he's like books. Nobody

(34:45):
watches books anymore. How do youbook? How do you watch a book?
Um? Anyway, we all knowthe story and if you don't,
I beg of you. Please gowatch The Princess Bride. Yeah, Paus,
go watch it. Come back.We have Buttercup, who is a
young farm woman who falls in lovewith Wesley, and he says the classic

(35:08):
line as you wish, as youwish, as you wish, and that
just basically for him means I loveyou, I will do whatever. I
will do what you want because I'min love with you. Um. They
love each other. He goes offto um seek his fortune on the seas
or in on in a different country, and um it comes back to her

(35:32):
that he his um ship was takenby the dread pirate Roberts, and that
he was killed in that interaction.Yeah, we jump forward to five years
later, where um Buttercup has basicallybeen forced to become the fiance of Prince

(35:52):
Umberdick. Poor thing, and ohmy goodness, Prince Umberdike is um played
by UM. Shoot you guys,I don't have my I don't have my
stuff up, um the guy.Oh my goodness, I'm going to be
so irritated. Okay, sorry everybody. UM, and he's the worst.

(36:20):
Um. He plans with um somescoundrels to kidnap her, um so that
he can go to war with adifferent country. These scoundrels are supposed to
kidnap her. They're supposed to sayto Prince Humperdink, we are from this

(36:42):
other country, Floren. No,he's he is the air right um.
Um. Guilder, Oh Guilder,you're right, great memory um. Because
he wants to go he wants togo against Guilder and to become to rule
everything. So he is. Sheis taken by Vessini Fessik and Indigo Montoya.

(37:14):
I'm just going to go through thewhole story really quickly. They are
pursued by Prince Hemberdine because he's supposedto keep up appearances that he's trying to
get her back, for sure.They also realize they're being pursued by a
man in black. The man inblack turns out to be the dread Pirate
Robert, trying to get her.But why is he trying to get her?

(37:34):
Because Wesley is the dread Pirate Robertsonyou, guys, if you have
never seen this movie, this isall of this is spoilers. But this
movie has been out for thirty threeyears. So can I just stop for
a second. I don't because there'sa thing that I don't remember. We
have so quick point. We havethe book and we've read the book.

(37:55):
Yeah, I don't remember this fromthe book though, and I'm trying.
Kind of The thing is when you'rewatching the movie, the book is different
than the movie for sure. Yeahyeah, um, but I think this
point is the same. I thinkWesley did become the dread Pirate Roberts.
Yes, um in the movie.This is not a secret like that he

(38:15):
catches up and he's like, I'mthe dread Pirate Roberts and You're like you're
you're Carrie Elwist. We can seewho you are, right, um?
And so like there's not a bigsurprise reveal. It's a there's not a
Darth Vader moment where like that turnsout to be true. I feel like
in the book there must have beenthere must have been a lot more weight
behind that, like double reveal oflike who are we being chased by?

(38:37):
Who? What's going on? It'sthe dread Pirate Roberts, who we already
know killed this nice boy that welike, I honestly have not read the
book in oh, it's been forever, a very long time. In the
movie, they think they see he'sthe dread Pirate Roberts, and he goes,
yeah, and the dread Pirate Roberts. And then he tried he tries
to interview Buttercup as the pirate Roberts, saying like, you didn't even mourn

(39:02):
for this kid that I killed.You know he would. He's like,
Okay, it's five years later,you're engaged to another guy, which,
by the way, five years that'splenty of time. That's a that's a
good bit of time. I havenever been in that situation, but it
is a good bit of time.It's maybe it's maybe it's maybe a short
amount of time. Like if youthink about um, especially like like like

(39:28):
we're weird. We got we gotengaged pretty quick, ratalian I did um,
like by almost anyone's standards, right, Um. But so I can
see how like a year or twoto mourn and then like a few years
to like get back in it andthen also find that person and then also
get engaged. Yeah. So Ican see how it feels like I just

(39:49):
want to stick up for the drypirate Roberts. Okay, And that also
makes me feel really good. Whybecause it would take you five years to
get over me. It should takeyou one thousand and five. Oh well
one thousand and five should dialone.I'm suggesting, ever one that what I'm
suggesting is that five years. Iagree with the dry Pirate Roberts. I
think five years is pretty quick,pretty quick. Yeah. Um. And

(40:12):
then she just it just comes aboutthat she's just like, I mean,
I know, I don't love Humperdink. I love my Wesley, and you
killed him. And she pushes himdown a hill and as he's rolling down
the hill, he goes as youwish, and she goes, oh my
sweet Wesley, what have I done? And she throws herself down the hill

(40:35):
and one of the most slapstick momentsof the movie, like and it's boom
oh oh oh because they are hitting. They are hitting the roll down the
hill for backs their heads and yeahum uh. Then they go into the
um the forest where they meet upwith the fire swamp, where they meet

(40:59):
up with several challenge namely the rousis, the rodents of an usual size,
the fire spurts, and the firespurts um on the other side.
They come out and uh, Humberdink'swaiting for them. She says, don't
kill him. I will come withyou if you just let him go.
Um. Humperdink, being the outstandingperson he is, goes like for sure

(41:24):
and takes her and then throws Wesleyin the pit of despair. Um can't
can't trust that prince Humberdink guy blahblah blah. Wesley ends up basically being
um tortured and but in a waythat's okay. So like this is a

(41:44):
family film, sure, and andthere is, but we're also we also
have sword fights, stabbings, poisonings, um, rodents of unusual size,
bagel moses. Um, we havetorture, torture to death basically um um

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and I mean we have a wholespeech that Wesley does about to the Pain
instead of to the death rum,which brings about a mental image that that
really is gruesome. It's gruesome.Um. Now everybody, you know,

(42:29):
everybody makes their own judgments about whattheir kids watches. Yeah, but what
I'm saying is, if your childhas never seen this and you have never
seen it, I would like youto watch this movie before you show it
to your child. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Um, I
will say, even though it islabeled as a family film, I will
say the uh yeah, the theto the pain thing is like a thing
from the end. Yeah. Andthe image that the mental image gives you

(42:52):
it doesn't show anything, no,it doesn't, butscribes something. But I
will say, like, as torturesgo, yeah, um you Carrie Ellis
does a good job of selling likethe pain of the moment, right,
but there's no blood. But Iwill say what my whole thing is as

(43:12):
tortures go. Essentially all they dois like, all right, we're gonna
gently place these section cups on youand then we're just gonna turn a water
wheel. Oh right. Basically,what they're doing is sucking a year of
life out of him through some weirdscience. So there's no cutting, there's
no blood, there's there's nothing likethat. It's it's just that Carrie Elwis

(43:36):
um emotes a lot of pain.What you just realize what the machine from
what um? The machine that wethat the machine from the Princess Pride is
the same machine that Nisky uses inFirefly. Like they do almost the same
thing. Not water but no,they don't like they're not identical. I'm

(43:59):
not saying like they use the sameprop. I'm saying it's basically the same
thing. M because that because thatmachine, this is not for anyone,
This is for you and me.Okay, it steals Well, I'm glad
we're talking about it right now.It steals because it steals life too.
Doesn't say does, he says he'she steals live with that machine. Anyway,
go ahead. I just realized thatthere was a connection between two of

(44:20):
my favorite franchises. Wesley ends upin quotes dying from this and then he
is taken by those Ruffians we sawfrom the beginning. He's taken to Miracle
Max, who is Billy Crystal againclassic, all of this is classics.
They he's revived, They go andstorm the castle and and um they get

(44:46):
buttercut. But that's the extreme basicsof it. Um. Um. Chris
Sarandon is Prince Humperdink, Mandy Patinkinis Indigo Montoya classic. Um. We
also have Andre the Giant as pheesic. Um. I wanted to talk about

(45:08):
Andre the Giant Um. Oh yeah, and how he almost wasn't PhiC?
Yes, let me find because again, this was what I talked about in
the episode that didn't save properly ever, hear yeah, so Rich has already
heard these things. Um. Firstoff, um, Rob Renier, Uh,

(45:28):
Rob Reiner, I always say,who am I trying to say?
I don't know who's Rainier? Again? I think the only Rainier I can
think of is Rainier from the AdventureZone. Okay, well Rob Reiner.
U. He loved the book,um, and he decided he wanted to
make a film out of it.Um. By the way, the book
came out in like the seventies,right, yes, and like the early

(45:51):
seventhies. Oh well I said itat the beginning. Let me go back.
Um it was nineteen seventy three,yeah, that the book came out.
So he read the book he wantedCarrie Ellis from the very beginning to
be Wesley. But at the timethe casting period was in Los Angeles and

(46:16):
Elwis was in Germany on a differentset doing something different. So Reiner actually
flew out to Berlin to meet withElis and and they decided at that time
that he would be the character.Elwis actually had read the book in his
childhood as well and had always associatedhimself with the character of Wesley, so

(46:40):
even from a child from childhood,Carrie Elwis was like, I feel like
I could be this character. Howold was Carrie Ellis, I don't know.
And but he never thought he wouldget he would be able to play
him. Sure, Robin Wright wascast very late in the process. They

(47:01):
auditioned many many actresses but didn't findjust the right fit. So her agent
heard of the casting call and askedher to audition. They she went and
did a little bit of of anaudition. They invited her to come and

(47:25):
meet Goldman, the original author ofthe book. And this is the quote
from somebody that was there. Quote. The doorbell rang. Rob went to
the door and literally as he openedthe door, she was standing there in
this little white summer dress. Withher long blonde hair, and she had
a halo from the sun. Shewas backlit by God and Bill Goldman looked

(47:47):
across the room at her and hesaid, well, that's what I wrote.
That's how you get the drop,So just be the person from the
book. Um Goldman Originally Um wantedFesik to be andre the Giant at the

(48:09):
very beginning, but he was Hewas in the midst of his wrestling career
at the time and he was unavailablefor filming. So Goldman's second choice was
Arnold Schwarzenegger, who at the timenobody knew him as an actor. Nobody,
Yeah he wasn't He wasn't such abig deal yet, right, Um.

(48:30):
But by the time The Princess Brideactually got greenlit, Swartzeneger was a
huge film star and was too expensive. Yeah, Um, they could.
The studio could not afford him,so they contacted the World Wrestling Federation asking
about hiring andre Um, but toldwas told that the filming conflicted with a

(48:57):
wrestling match that was supposed to bein Tokyo, So he auditioned other people
like Kareem Abdul Jabbar, LuFe Regnoand a few other but those just didn't
pan out. At the end ofcasting, the World Wrestling Federation told the
the casting director that Andre's match inTokyo had been canceled and now he was

(49:22):
cleared if they still wanted him toplay the role of fezik Um, he
says. Andre the Giant specifically saidthat he really liked participating in the filming
experience because no one stared at himon stet on set during production as a

(49:45):
freak. Yeah, he said.They just treated him as a fellow member
of the cast. Yeah. That'sreally cool. Umm, also really cool.
I love this. Carrie and MandyPatinken learned to fence both left and
right handed for the film and performedpretty much every single scene of their fencing

(50:10):
was them except for the the somersaultand back flips. Um. The two
were they were they spin on thefiling um. They did not. They
were not trained in gymnastics. Um. But they did all of that fencing.
They were actually trained by fencing instructureinstructors and stunt arrangers who had worked

(50:37):
on the Star Wars trilogy. Sure, um, okay, that's not surprising
at all, actually, and theyspent most of their free time off camera
practicing with each other. Um.Uh. They watched a lot of sword
fights, they practiced, they cameup with their own choreography um, or

(50:57):
they didn't come up with their Theylearned each other's core areography um to help
them avoid or avoid accidents and anticipateeach other's movements. Yeah. Um.
Also, andre the Giant had undergonemajor backs surgery before filming um, and
he could not support the weight ofElwis. And you know several times you

(51:22):
see him carrying people because he isso big, he would just pick some
of these people up. Um.When you see him picking them up,
he's actually on um. He's actuallyon ramps um when he's hanging off so

(51:42):
so like I think that eased hisback to be on a ramp um.
Also, for the those are forthe close shots, for the wide shots,
a stunt double plate andre um.So he didn't actually free free solo
carry yea three people up the Cliffsof Despair. No, you know he
didn't. Also when at one theCliffs of Insanity when he was carrying Robin

(52:10):
right, she was actually suspended bycables because they didn't want him to injure
himself. Another thing that I reallyloved was Billy Crystal and his I'm not
a witch, I'm your wife.His wife, who is Carol Kane,
spent a lot of time together,traveling to England and working out the backstory

(52:32):
of Miracle Max. They have sucha small role as far as the overall
movie is concerned, but they wantedto do it right, so they worked
out a backstory between Miracle Max andhis wife and then developed a rapport with
each other. So then when theygot on set pretty they improvised a lot

(52:57):
of their stuff. They just werean old married couple. They were exactly
Um. Like I said, thefilm at first was a modest success.
Modest success. Um. It growsthirty point eight million at the United States
and Canada box office, but thatwas only on a sixteen million production budget.

(53:21):
It there's it's a ninety seven approvalrating on Rotten Tomatoes. In the
Cinema Score gave it an a plus. Um. The critics just love it,
and it has like this complete legacy. Now sure, um, and

(53:43):
I'm not going to be able togo through everything, but as you know,
just from um after that point,merchandise and the just buying of the
film and stuff like that had toincrease that Sure, by a good bet.
Yeah, by a lot. Butand then sorry you guys, if

(54:04):
you guys heard our dog. Yeah, she's being really loud. She's acting
super itchy or something, and shekeeps like shaking herself and scratching herself and
growling at herself. So, um, the last thing. And I don't
have it in front of me,So I don't have the uh like the
whole cast list. But we alsomentioned in the in the last episode,

(54:28):
um that there that there was aproposed I never saw anything that said that
it had not that it had beentaken out of production, um, but
that but that there was a orout of development, a reboot for The
Princess Bride. Uh theoretically in productionwith lots of characters attached or lots of
actors attached, potential remake. Um. Um. It was in twenty nineteen

(54:57):
an article came out saying that veryfamous people whose names I won't use,
they want to redo the Princess Bride. Yeah. Um. The reaction on
social media was extremely, extremely negative. So there's a there's a line that
says there's a shortage of a perfectcan we say breasts? Um, there's

(55:20):
a shortage of perfect breasts? Inthis world, it would be a pity
to damage yours. Yeah. Um, because she's a you know, she's
about to hurt herself, but umand he stops her. Um. But
I saw several memes go out justand I think Carrie Elois actually said this,
Oh here it is. There's aCarrie Ellis um um uh said that

(55:49):
Okay, I'm sorry. A remakewould be a bad idea. Um.
And a lot of people said itwould be inconceivable. Elis paraphrase the film
saying it's a shortage of perfect moviesin this world. It would be a
pity to damage this one. SoI think I haven't heard that it is

(56:12):
happening. I haven't heard that thatsquashed it. But I think there would
be an uprising. Yeah, itwould be pretty bad. I mean the
movie could be good. The moviecould be good. It's just but then
again, you know, they redidStart Redid, they revamped Star Wars,
and you know, people love itand people hate it. So it's just

(56:35):
going to be who who likes itwho hates it. One other thing I
wanted to mention super quick is thebook. Yeah, and because we one
thing we didn't have a chance totalk about this time that we mentioned last
time is that the book came outin seventy three and like that year people
were this should be a movie andand so like they kept trying to be

(56:55):
developed and they couldn't do it.And we sat speculate because because we have
read it. Um, it's it'sa weird book. Yeah, Like when
you read it, the story pointsthat are like the from the story points
that are like the grandfather reading thebook. Um, like the actual like
fantasy characters. Part of the storyis not far off of like it's not

(57:16):
exactly the same, but it's notfar off those same story points in the
book. But the thing about thebook is that it's meant to be a
like an abridged story that's been translatedfrom Florins into English by this person and
that and that he ends up likeso in the in the book, the

(57:37):
idea, the joke is that he'sabridging this book so that it's so it's
consumable, right, and so likeyou'll see these when you're reading the book.
There will be a story and it'llinterrupt itself and go, okay,
this is this is uh, thisis me again. Um. The next
several pages are detailed descriptions of theforest and you don't need that. Yeah,

(57:59):
So so here's what the forest lookedlike, and it'll like a quick
description and then like okay, let'smove on, and so like I can
understand how like, yeah, thatwould be really challenging to set to a
movie because about half of the storyis the interruptions that happen. Yeah,
and so like intentional interruptions that theauthor made to make it seem like somebody

(58:19):
else was abridging this book. Soturning it into um, turning it into
this grandfather get telling the story tohis son and kind of doing the same
thing at moments is like like yeah, okay, don't worry about that.
Okay, we can skip the scarypart. Okay, well you might like
the kissing part. I don't wantto listen to the kissing, right,
And so like figuring out a mechanicto make the interruptions and the and the

(58:42):
action makes sense, yeah, wasI'm sure the biggest challenge and executed an
a genius way. There was alsosome some fan theories. Remember that maybe
even though this doesn't make sense becausebecause I'm gonna go ahead and tell you,
because the countries don't exist, andit's obviously set in far too far

(59:04):
a time ago. Um, butthere's like a but there's a fun it's
fun. There's this fan theory thatin the movie, uh, the grandfather
character played by Colombo Peter Falk.Yeah that I'm sure he really appreciates people
just calling him Colida. I thinkPeter Falk's around anymore. Um, rest
in peace, Peter Falk um Um, I assume. But anyway, my

(59:28):
point is that he is Wesley andthat like, that's why he has that's
why he loves this book so muchand wants to pass it along. Um,
it doesn't. That doesn't really makesense or whole a lot of water.
But it's fun. Yeah for sure. Sorry dogs being really she's being
in the end, it's becoming moreand more. So let's wrap this.

(59:49):
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