July 14, 2021 • 57 mins
Welcome to episode sixty-seven! This week Rich thought he was watching a Pixar movie...then thought maybe it was a Disney Animation film. Anyway, he was wrong but he did watch Planes. But Natalie watched a bona fide Pixar classic, Monsters Inc. Let's have some fun!
Thanks as always to Shad Warrell for creating our theme music! Check Shad out at soundcloud.com/shad-warrell.
Thanks as always to Shad Warrell for creating our theme music! Check Shad out at soundcloud.com/shad-warrell.
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All right, all right, allright, welcome to not suitable for adults.
This, if you're not familiar withit, is a podcast, probably
not that much, but this one'sabout kids stuff. We do kids things,
but we're grown ups. The peoplewho host the show. We're grown
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ups. Yeah, you couldn't tellthat we were three years old. We're
not three. And we tell youwhat we think about the things, sometimes
from a parents' perspective and sometimes justfrom a like did we like that movie
perspective or show or thing? BreakfastCereal? Wow, we have not talked
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about breakfast Cereal. I have anidea about doing a breakfast Cereal. Actually,
well, then you should. Imight do it down the line some
day, Okay, in the future. I'm rich, I'm Natalie. We've
done This is the second week ina row we have working computers. We
have working computers. One we hadto order completely new one. We had
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to order a completely new hard drive. Um, yeah, we literally.
I don't think. I don't rememberwe talked about this last I don't guess.
I don't remember it had happened lastweek or not. But so,
so we ordered a new computer forme because we've been having problems. Yeah,
with my previous computer, which wasthe like podcast computer. Yeah,
and so we got it in andliterally, like the day after I got
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it and had it set up Natalie'scomputer, her hard drive just like stock,
it went away. It just itdecided I'm gonna Houdini away. And
so we took it to get itfixed, and the guy was like,
oh, yeah, I can totallyfix this. He's like, oh,
you're gonna need a new hard drive. It's a special hard drive. So
we had to order like, wehad to order drive, have it installed,
have it fixed. Now it worksgreat. Now it works great,
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and we're back in business. Inthe grand I mean, we're back in
business. What. Oh, I'msorry, I just did a I just
did a I did I should ajoke that's only going to make sense to
people who were in like my barbershopchorus. It's nothing. Any of them
listen to this, probably not well, then there was no reason for you
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to talk about there's a song.There's a song. Oh, he's going
to explain it. Here we go. I get ready. There's a song
called back in business, and it'sprobably from a musical or something, but
we do it in our chorus,or we used to we haven't done it
a while. Um and and thefirst thing, the first line is we're
back in business. And ain't itgrand grand? Got it? I heard?
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Here's what I heard. Here's whathappened in my brain. Are you
ready? Yeah? I said,you said, ed we're back in business?
And I went hunt in you witand ain't it grand? I heard
Anita grand a grand? No,no, no, not, I need
a grand Ana Anita Anita like it'sa person grand And I was like,
is he trying to make an arianagrand day? Arion a grand day?
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And you just called her Anita grand? And I went, wait, what
I thought ariana grand day was somethingabout back in business? And then I
was like, that's not what hesaid. Okay, go ahead, oh
barbershop, Okay, well let's justdo let's do podcast things. Okay,
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what do you think? I mean, that's what I'm here for. I
don't know about you, but yeah, that's what they're paying us the big
bucks for, y'all. I thinkwe've made like what two bucks podcast false
in the year that we've been makinga year and a half. Actually we've
been making a podcast. We've beenlike forty bucks. I'm making the universal
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rain. Yeah, we're making itrain, making it rain sign right now
with my hands here. If therewas like if there was a paper it
would be really impressive. If therewas like a paper denomination for quarters,
then then it would be like we'dhave a big pilot. We have a
lot of quarters. We've got alot of quarters. Oh boy. Okay,
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okay, I'm going first as usualbecause now we usually that's a better
job at doing the really well researchsection of the show. I take time,
but I did take notes this weekfor my part, which is what
which is unusual? Unusual? Um? Okay, I watched this week a
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movie I don't think either of ushad seen before, but which is kind
of in our it's in our wheelhouse, but it's not. And I'll talk
about why I watched Disney Disney's Planes. Is this Pixar? Because Cars was
Pixar? Right right, Okay,Cars's Pixar Because I asked. I asked,
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you said, is it anything likecars? And you're like, it's
cars, it's planes. Yeah.So here's the deal. I watched Planes.
Um, it's not it's not verygood. Okay, it's not terrible.
I mean, anybody making a movieabout sentient transportation. Yeah, after
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cars, cars right, Disney's Pixarcars right. Which, by the way,
when you think of cars, whatdo you think of Owen Wilson.
No, our nephew, Oh yeah, our nephew. Nolan loves cars,
loves cars. He'd probably loved planes. He probably liked planes. So Ben
and Catherine, if you're listening youfrom cars, well, he's also a
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plus. He's also onto monsters.Now that may come in later. Here's
the deal. This movie exists.It came out in twenty thirteen. It
starts Dane Cook. Dane Cook.Really the main character in this movie is
Dane Cook. I don't think Irealized this. Um parents, yep.
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Suitable for adults, yes, okay, go ahead. Dane Cook's stand up
comedy is gold. So Dane Cook'sstand up comedy is divisive. There are
people who really hate him as comedianand people who really love him. We
love him, We love him,and you know, take it or leave
it. It doesn't matter. Thisis our podcast because so we can say
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what we want. We love him. Um. Not suitable, No,
not our children at all. Goback to the Vicious Circle Tour. It's
very funny, um but um,Dan Cook's stand up comedy is very good.
I never cared for him as anactor. So this comes from the
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period of time that Dan Cook wastrying to be an actor. Is this
like what was the Dax Shepherd moviewhere they were like Costco employee, Yes,
employee of the month, employee ofthe month, but it was not
Costco. It was like something likeCostco or Sam Sorry it was a big
box store. Yeah right, andthey were yeah, um, I mean,
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I mean he's like funny, yeah, but he's not an actor.
Here's the thing. Um, Okay, there's a lot of stuff about this
movie that is just like, let'sjust get to the to the to the
nuts and bolts of it, ifyou will. It is a knockoff of
It's just a knockoff of cars?Is this movie? What I like though,
is that Disney did it. Disneydid do it. It's not like
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it's not like Disney Pixar came outwith cars and then like DreamWorks came out
with planes. It's not like that. But here's the deal. It's a
little bit like that. Oh butit's the same company. It is.
I'm just saying it makes me feelbetter that it is the same company.
But the problem, the problem Ipersonally have with it is and this is
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one of those things like and wehaven't done one of these this like point
of view in a while. Okay, it doesn't do the things you want
a like in the Cars Universe movieto do. So at the beginning to
go World of Cars, that's theway that they let you know it's connected.
Oh so this is they've made thatspecifically specific that this is the world
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of cars because in cars we seeplanes. Yeah, we see yeah,
we see helicopters and planes and yes, and so here's the thing, and
they've expanded you could you could takeit this way, and you could take
it as if in the Cars Universethey've expanded to all motor vehicles being sentient
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beings. Um, here's the problem, this is my these are little things.
Let's start with the little stuff forme. So I'm watching the movie
and I'll tell you about the plothere in a second. It's from twenty
thirteen, so I'm going to spoilthe heck out of this one. Um,
but we'll get this. I'll getto the story in second. So
but there's nothing like you don't seeDina co in this movie. You don't
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see even like rusties. Yeah,there's one a single reference to the original
Cars movie in this movie. Whatwas the reference. It's they scare tractors
at one point and they do thecow. Okay, that's the whole that's
the extent of reference to cars.I hate that tractors have been dumbed down
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that much. I know, becausetractors are much more than cows. Tractors
are much more than cows. Tractorsget the job done. I mean,
cows get the job done, don'tthey. No? Okay, I don't
know what cos you've been seeing,But okay, I mentioned okay, I
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mentioned Dan Cooks in this movie.Um, let's see who's the second most
famous person, actually the second mostserious person besides Dane Cook. Dane Cook
plays Dusty Cropper. No, excuseme, Dusty crop Popper. I was
fixing to say Jessica Simpson, butno, that was employ Um. Dane
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Cook plays Dusty crop Popper. He'sa he's an air plane who okay?
Who is a crop duster? Okay? And he dreams of being like an
international cross like Panglobal rally champion.There are a lot of crop duster jokes.
Yeah, Okay. Great. Theysay the word cropduster in this movie
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like fifty times, but in thein the in the in the way that
we would use it. Oh,like a like fart jokes. Yes,
mostly at the beginning. Yeah,there's ok okay, got it? Um
um so he so okay. SoDan Cook is the plane. He lands
at this like sort of local airstripwhere there's uh where there's like a kind
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of a crew of like repair trucksand and gas trucks that kind of work
there. The gas truck. Themain like his best buddy, who's kind
of like the stand in form materin this movie is played by Brad Garrett,
who was Robert the Brother on EverybodyLoves Raymond. Yes, okay,
um. And there's a forklift namedDottie who's played by Terry Hatcher. Okay,
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and that's pretty much the cast ofthis movie. Um. There's a
few other Like Cedric the Entertainer isin this one. He's like he's like
the the elder cropduster who's like,you can't go out in the world and
be a real and be a wouldbe a real plane. Yeah. Julia
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Louis Dreyfus is in here as aas a like as like a French Canadian.
Well I'll get to it in asecond, but she's like a French
Canadian plane in the race that heends up getting into. Uh. Gabriel
I Glaciers is in here. Uhokay. A few people make like make
appearances and they're here for a secondand they're gone. Val Kilmer, isn't
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it technically? Wow? Sindbad technically. So it's a lot of kind of
what we would consider as far aslike b actors. Yeah, yes,
John Klie is in here for asecond. Um, But this is the
weird thing. Like the bad guyin the movie who who The name of
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the character is RiPP Slinger. Wow, Um he was he was born to
be a bad person, right badplane. The guy who plays him is
like just he's he's a voice actorand he's done some voice acting things,
but he's not like an actor.So they didn't pull in like big Hollywood
muscle to be the bad guy inthe movie big Hollywood as in like like
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like you've seen them and you've seentheir real face, gotcha? You so
like b actors are you're in thisvoiceover movie, but also we've seen your
real you know what your face lookslike and that's not the case for the
bad guy. Also, this isan interesting thing that I just found out
when I was like pulling up theWikipedia page for this movie because I was
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like, I want to make sureI have the facts ready. Um,
the poster for planes barely has DanCook's character on it. It mostly has
Ripslinger on it, the bad guy. Yeah, because he's the cooler looking
airplane. Well show it to seeit? Yes, hang on, can
you see hold on? The greenplane that's rip Slinger. The orange plane
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that is a big in the posteris the bad guy's orange plane? Down
here that's day Cook. That's Dusty. No, the third one down is
like this weird like Mexican Luchador airplane. That second one, the orange and
white plane, that's was that theofficial poster? I think? So wow,
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Okay, here here here's the story. Um. The So it begins
with Dusty crop popper wants to beHe dreams was he going to be in
life? He dreams of being aa a like plane racing champion because he
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doesn't but he's a crop duster.But he's a crop duster. That is
not my particular dream, but dreamhe dreams of being more. Um,
here's a few fun facts about Dustycrop popper. He's afraid of heights.
Uh oh uh yeah. Um.He has sort of a daydream at the
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beginning where he's like flying alongside somelike fighter pilots, and that actually got
me at the beginning. I waslike, wait a second, he's flying
with them, and then I realizedlike he's in a dream, and then
it wasn't real. Can can wesay why we had to take a quick
parenting break. Our daughter just wanteda couple of little tiny sheets of nori.
She just wants some seaweed. Coracame in and said, can I
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have seaweed? So that's what we'redealing. So that's where we're at now,
Okay, let's continue. Dusty crophoppersa heights. He's a cropduster.
He's never he says a few times, like he's never flown above a thousand
feet, but he wants to bea racer. Okay, so heights.
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I suppose it is like a relativeterm, right, If you're a plane
and you're afraid of heights, you'regoing to be a cropduster. Even though
those of us that have stable feetupon the ground were to go up into
a crop dusting plane, we wouldthink that's high. It would feel high.
Yeah, like a thousand feet isnot low, but it's low for
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a plane for sure. So whatI mean is if you're a plane,
to be as close to the groundas possible, you're gonna crop dust.
Yeah makes sense. Yeah, okay, okay, but his um, his
his sort of crew quote unquote,and you can't see my hands do unquote
unquote fingers. He's his crew islike, you can do it, except
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for I think Terry Hatcher's character islike I don't think you can. But
literally, within the first ten minutesof the movie, it takes almost no
time at all. Where at arace. Okay, he's at a qualifying
race, and it's one monte ofwhiplash. Have you ever seen one of
those races? Um, These thesesort of like plane races where they like
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they have to they have to flyaround a course and then they have to
fly through like certain types of gateslike with their wings level. No.
I have been to plenty of likeair shows. Okay, so I have
seen like plane acrobatics, if that'sif that's a term or even not like
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an actually no, I have neverseen do people race planes? Yeah,
so what they do? So thisis true. This is real life.
So there are plane races hang on, even more dangerous. But the thing
is they don't they don't generally sendthem all out at once. It's like
they do laps and they're doing timela times. Okay, that makes sense,
um, And so this is whathe does in this qualifying thing,
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which doesn't make a lot of sensebecause what he wants to do is a
world it's around the world like marathon. Basically, he wants to go around
the world in this big rally race. Um. But the way that they're
doing qualifying for it is this sortof like it's almost like the equivalent of
like a horse steeple chase. Um. So in and this is but this
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is real. So this part,this part is real. Plane There are
plane races where they have to flylike a set course and when they go
through certain gates kind of like um, like when you see skiers go through
you know how they have to gothrough gates. Yeah, it's like that
they have, but like one versionof the gates you have to fly through
with your with your wings flat,okay, and then one versions you have
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to fly through like on a knifeedge, so you have to fly up
like on your wings like sideways.Okay, how we see every action adventure
movie canyon, Yeah, which alsohappens in this movie. Sure, so
they do one of these. Um, it doesn't make any sense because that's
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like and I actually watched the uhthe the Cinemasons video for planes also,
But that's actually what made me thinkof it is I saw that it's like
I should watch that, so Iwent and watch it. I watched the
Cinemasons. And if you're not subscribedto Cinema Sins, I think last week
we talked about um. Last weekwe talked about the honest trailers. Oh
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yeah, there's three. There's ifyou're into three into movies, there's three
things you should watch. There's honesttrailers, there's how it should have ended,
and there's Cinema Sins, which Ithink you just introduced me to Cinema
Sins. Yeah. I UM haveseen so many honest trailers and so many
how it should have ended, disum, but I didn't. I didn't.
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I don't think I I UM wasaware of Cinema Sins. So Cinemasons
is basically like depending on the movie. It's like between five and fifteen minutes.
Uh. And and there's longer onesfor like the big Blockbustern movies of
like, here's everything wrong with thismovie? Yeah, And it goes almost
scene by scene yea of the movie. I mean you're not watching the movie
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obviously, it absolutely skips a tonof it. Oh we got some thunder.
That was a big thing of thunder. You might have heard some thunder.
Um, So it condenses it.But you do see the movie,
you see them. So don't watchthese things unless you've seen the movie.
Yea. Their spoilery, yeah forsure. And there's also I didn't I
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haven't talked to you about this becauseI don't really watch this because it's it's
just not as fun. But there'sa sister site for Cinemasins called cinema Wins
and it's all the best thing okayokay um. And so I usually watch
Cinemasons just because it's funny and theguy who does the voice for it is
funny. But I saw that thatcame up. I was like, oh,
planes, I should watch that,And so that's what prompted me to
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do this this week. Anyway,I'm not gonna spend a lot of time
on it. He you already havebeen. I know, it's well,
we've been talking about a lot ofstuff. But here's so the long the
short of it is, he entersthis race, he comes in sixth.
Okay, but you need to bein the top five to qualify for the
big race. Oh my goodness,I hope nothing happens to one of the
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top five, to where he getsbumped up to one of the top five.
Oh no, well that's what happened. Okay, you guys, I
have not seen this movie. Ineed to reiterate, I have not seen
this movie. I just know whatmovies do. What ends up happening is
one of the one of the topones uses like an illegal fuel. Sure,
and there's a moment, and there'sa moment about like whether it's it's
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kind of like a it's kind oflike a legalize that moment in the movie
here, I mean, I mean, that's kind of appropriate with the time
we're in currently. Is a lotof a lot of people are qualifying for
Olympics right now. Oh sure,and that's didn't even think about that.
No, it's one very relevant forthis time. A lot of people are
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qualifying for the Olympics, and somepeople are being found to um have it
depends on your point of view overallbroken certain rules. Well, this is
the story of the person who tobe on the team because that person was
disqualified. Um okay, so andactually, come to think of it,
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we barely see those people again,like the people the top five from this
thing rip slingers. There the badguy who he was first, he's the
he's the world champion, he's onea million times um. But they get
to this world rally, which istotally different. None of the skills that
they showed in the in the qualifyingrace have anything to do with flying across
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oceans. Um. There's a lotof fun. There's there's some serious thunder
happening. Um. But they endup they end up flying through this thing.
Uh. Guess what. It's apretty big it's a pretty big problem
that he can't fly higher than athousand feet you think until like the fifth,
the fourth or fifth leg of therace. Is a bunch of legs
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of the race. Like he doesreally bad at the beginning, he keeps
coming at last, but on theone of the last couple of few legs
of the race, he's like,it turns out it's a really good thing
that he flies below a thousand feetbecause part of it is flying through a
canyon. Yeah, and then likepart of it is flying through like a
certain like a like nearest city.It's like, oh, yeah, these
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are all things I can do becauseI'm used to flying low, and so
I'm not gonna surprised anyone or spoilanything by telling you that he ends up
winning. What there is. Ijust want to point out a couple of
things that's so unexpected. Let melet me cut to the chase. This
movie is fine for you to watch. If your kid likes cars, they're
gonna like planes. Yeah. Soif your kid is obsessed with cars,
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maybe and you're ready for a littlebit of a change, tryout planes.
Here's the thing I mentioned before thatit's not made by Pixar, but it's
also not made by Disney Animation.It's made by Disney Tunes, and Disney
Tunes is a studio that brings yousuch things as those tinker Bell movies.
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Weird. Yeah, it's like theirthird string animation studio. Honestly, I
had no idea until this second thatDisney Tunes, right, really existed,
so Disney Tunes is their C levelanimation studio, and it shows it doesn't
look as good as picks are.Also, you don't get any nods other
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than that, like some of thevehicles look like vehicles from cars. You
don't get any you don't get anythingfrom cars, so there's nothing. There's
no connective tissue other than the wayit looks. So there's that. And
then there's also like just some weird, crude humor in this movie that is
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explicitly for adults. And by thatI mean there's moments. Okay, there's
two female characters. Two, there'stwo female characters in this movie. Three
excuse me, go ahead. Sorryfor the no I'm just saying sorry for
the interference. I grabbed my phoneto check the weather. They sounded loud.
There's three female characters in this movie. There's the there's the Terry Hatcher
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character I mentioned before. She's aforklift um I know. There is the
Julia Louis Drives character, who isthe she's a love interest for this other
like playing character who's from Mexico.It's like a luchador um and that's like
a weird thing. But like theyend up getting together because he's really uh,
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he keeps going kind of he's veryinto this, like characters really into
the Julia Louis drives character and she'slike, no, I don't like you.
I do not like you. No, I do not like you.
And then by the end there andlove, Well that's what happens. Yeah,
yeah, us women were fickle people, okay, and no it drives
me nuts. It drives me nutswhen a movie is showing a woman going
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like, h like I can't Idon't get you, I'm not interested in
you, and suddenly they're like,I love you. Like it just it.
It bugs me because understand that's nothow people are. And then there's
a there's an when they get tothe big international races and there's a plane
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from India who's played by her name'sis Shani and she's played by Panca Chopra,
yes um and and she she haslike a moment where she like kind
of turns on Dusty but then sheends up helping him at the end.
Um And I'm why didn't you mentionChopra? Sorry I can't say her name
correctly in the originalists of Celebrities.I didn't mean to not I think it
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was probably because I knew I wasgoing to talk about this section. I
didn't mean to leave her out.I just was wondering if you knew who
she was. Yeah, I do, Okay, okay, um. She
So she plays she plays a sheplays almost love interest of Dusty, not
quite almost kind of. But here'sthe thing. This is the thing that
that that I wanted to mention isthere's a moment when he meets her.
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She says, oh, hello,it's it's nice to meet you, and
like walks away, walks rolls away, and and he looks after and he
goes, whoa, look at thatpropeller. And she's got a propeller on
the backside. And that's like arunning thing. They come back to that
two or three times in the moviewhere he's like that propeller. I was
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just looking at her butt. Idon't like it. I didn't like it.
I didn't like it. I watchedI was watching it. I didn't
like it. Um. And actuallyin the cinemas, in the cins I'm
gonna say a cuss word. Ohno, no, no, it's not
going to be it's not we're notturning him to a explicit show I just
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I'm gonna be quoting something, okay, and so I'm gonna say a cuss
word as part of that. Soif you're listening with children present, be
prepared. Okay, pause it,listen to it in a second. This
isn't We're not turning into a blueshow. We're just I'm just gonna say
the thing. I was watching thecinema sense and I had already noted this.
I was like, man, theycome back to this butt thing a
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few times, right, and Iwas watching the cinema since before. Afterwards,
the guy who does it is like, man, this movie is all
about the ass. Yeah, that'ssuper annoying. It's really annoying. Only
this one female plane has her propelleron the backside, and they keep making
a big deal about so far.A lot of my feminism is really like
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hating this. Mone know that thismovie is like it's fine, and your
kid doesn't care about that, sothey're not going to catch it. Sure,
But also like I don't get Idon't get it. I don't understand
why that was a funny thing.It's supposed to be. I'm doing quote
hands everybody adult humor yet the grownups, but the thing is is that
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not all adults think that's funny.It is lightning and thundering a lot.
Yeah, maybe we should close thatdoor that's bringing some of the thunder sounds
that is planes. I'm not goingto go into the whole thing because you
don't need it. I don't needthis movie. I'm against it. I've
canceled it already. You're gonna notice. You're gonna notice the like not his
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goodness of this movie. There areeven things like I'm okay, I'm still
spending time on it. There aremoments where they do like wipes, you
know how when you're watching a kid'smovie and they do like a wipe on
the screen between scenes, and it'llbe like a character walking by in the
shore. Yeah, but it's notnatural. It's just like here's a car
because this is a car show,and it's just like a car goes by,
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and that's the wipe to take youbetween scenes. That happens a lot
in this movie. So basically,you're saying, if your kid likes cars
and you need a break, ifyou if you planes, if you've watched
all the cars a million times,this could give you a break. But
if you like cars, you don'twatch place. If you like cars,
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you're not gonna like this movie.Yeah, but unless you're a two year
old, unless you're a two yearold, unless you're a kid who the
movie's for. Yeah, and theyput all this stuff in there for the
grown ups. But I just don'tthink I think it was a little tone
deaf. I think they didn't quitedo it very well. So it's not
great, it's not bad. It'sright in the middle. It's on Disney
pluts. If you want to watchit great, Let's say, let's pull
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over. I mean, it's startinga storm. We should pull over under
an underpass, just in case atornado. I'm having some problems with my
Winschew wipers and I need to pullover in Prolovoe and we're back. I
didn't realize when we began this episodethat it was going to be kind of
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a Nlan heavy episode. Yeah,we're we're kind of doing a lot about
our love stuff. You targeted atour nephew. Yeah, didn't mean to
do that. I mean, likewe said, Nolan is super into cars.
He will sit still for cars,and a two year old boy doesn't
really sit still much. And latelyhe's also begetting getting into what he calls
(31:15):
Monsters, which is what I'm actuallytalking about today. I'm talking about one
of my favorites of the Disney franchise, Disney Pixar franchise, which is Monsters.
Yes, so interesting that we bothhad both were on a Nolan Pixar
(31:38):
wavelength happening, even though yours wasn'ttechnically that. So I'm going to talk
about Monsters Inc. Monsters Inc.Is a two thousand and one American computer
animated comedy film produced by Pixar anddistributed by Disney. So as we all
(32:00):
know, when it comes to DisneyPixar film films, a lot of the
times we get some Pete Doctor stuff, sure, especially early. Yeah,
a lot of early picks are butI'm not saying like a cross the right.
Actually he came in, So MonstersInc. Is one of the one
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of the first after like the toystories and stuff, And Pete Doctor wasn't
necessarily involved so much with the toystory stuff, um, but he started
getting more involved when it came afterthe toy story stuff. Um, and
that includes uh, Monsters Inc.Yeah, So he began developing this film
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in nineteen ninety six. So ninetysix to two thousand and one. That's
a that's a five year project.Yea. Um. And when I say
he wasn't, because I'm fixing toread this quote and it may sound like
I'm being redundant when I say hewasn't as involved with Toy Story, That's
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not what I mean. He directedI believe Monsters inc. Shoot, now,
I'm going to feel bad if that'swrong. He did not direct Toy
Story, but he was on theproduction team with Toy Story. So he
says, quote, when we weremaking Toy Story, everybody came out to
me and said, hey, Itotally believe that my toys came to life
(33:29):
when I left the room. Sohow many of us that have seen Toy
Story ever think like, when weleft the room, our toys came to
life. I mean that happens.I'm still in his quote, Um,
starting right now. So when Disneyasked us to do something, do some
more films, I wanted to tapinto a childlike notion that was similar to
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that I knew monsters were coming outof my closet when I was a kid,
So I said, Hey, let'sdo a film about monsters. So
what I love about Pete and umand a lot of his production team.
Is that they really do tap intothese very very basic childhood thoughts, thoughts,
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fears, loves, um, joys, this is, this is they
tap into these what children think aboutand I love that. Um, go
ahead, just a quick thing.I just did some quick googling about Pete
Doctor and early pisar Um. PeteDoctor did not direct the Toy Story one,
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right, Yes, but he wason the story team, yes,
so, so he helped develop ToyStory yes, um. And then he
directed monsters in Yes. And alsoI don't know if you're gonna talking about
this or not, but Randy Newmanalso did the music. Can I continue
police because my next sentence, okay, literally was going to be Randy Newman,
(35:01):
who composed the music for Pixar's threeprior films, yeah, returned to
compose for this movie. I justthink that's incredible that they were. I
can't believe you stole that from underme. I just didn't know. I'm
I didn't sorry. I didn't meanto seal it. It's just that I
didn't realize that Randy Newman was likethe John Williams of Yes, absolutely absolutely,
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Um. So it um Jan generatedover UM five hundred and seventy seven
million dollars worldwide and became the thirdhighest grossing film of two thousand and one.
Wow, two thousand and one,No think of two thousand and one.
(35:45):
Yeah, that you sucked. Ialso want to say, yeah,
I also want to just point outthat like five hundred seventy I'm looking at
I'm looking at Wikipedia numbers, fiveseventy seven point four million UM. It's
what it's generated the box office.That's more than some Marvel movies. I
mean, that's some big money.Well, if you're thinking about it.
(36:06):
So like Pixar became Pixar when theystarted doing these things, Yeah, because
Pixar at first was toy Story Yeah, in Bug's Life, right. But
what I mean is like there wasa very limited amount of things that Pixar
was doing, even though the thingsthey were doing were very good. Yeah,
(36:28):
So when Pixar suddenly comes out withsomething that's completely different, yeah for
them, at the time, Yeah, it was like kind of it was
a new project, wasn't It wasunknown? Absolutely. M Monsters, Inc.
Won the Academy Award for Best OriginalSong. If I Didn't Have You,
and it was nominated for the firstBest Animated Feature, but it lost
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to Shrek Freaking Shrek Freaking Shrek.Shrek was not near as good as Monster
Think that that is my truth,and it was also nominated for Best Original
Score and Best Sound Editing. Umso Pete Doctor's original idea actually was a
thirty year old man who dealt withmonsters that he drew in a book as
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a child and came back to botherhim as an adult. So it seems
like super dark. Yeah, thatseems really dark. And then each monster
represented a fear he had, okay, and conquering those fears caused the monsters
to disappear. I see this beinga theme for a film that would be
(37:38):
good. Yeah, but I don'tfeel like it's one of those. Maybe
it's a now Pixar film, maybeit's the spinoff of like inside Out.
But what I mean is like Pixarat that time was very different than Pixar
at this time. Yeah, forsure, Pixar in two thousand and one
(37:59):
was a lot more lighthearted than Pixarin twenty twenty one, twenty years ago.
I'm just gonna let you sit inyour existential crisis, So can I
tell you what the original Monsters Inc. Was going to be about? What
(38:20):
was Between nineteen ninety six and twothousand, The lead monster and child went
through radical changes as the story evolved. As the story continued to develop,
the child varied in age and gender. Ultimately, they decided that a little
girl would be the best counterpart tothe big, furry, eight foot tall
(38:40):
monster because basically, when you're thinkingof opposites, that's kind of what you
come up with. After the littleGirl was settled upon, the character continued
to undergo changes, at one pointbeing from Ireland, at one point being
African American. And originally the characterof the little girl, whose original name
(39:02):
was Mary, was a fearless sevenyear old who has been toughened by years
of teasing and pranks from four olderbrothers. That's a very different movie.
Yes. Also in contrast, Johnson, who is the original Sully Okay Johnson
(39:22):
is nervous about the possibility of losinghis job after the boss at Monsters Inc.
Announced a downsizing. He feels enviousbecause a scarer Ned, who has
actually become the Randall okay Ned,is the company's top performer. Oh so,
originally the character that became Randall wasthe company's top performers. They kind
(39:46):
of okay and making Randall the mesquisright right. Um. Through various drafts,
Johnson who became Sully his occupation andwent back and forth from being a
scarer to working in other areas ofthe company like a janitor um until it's
(40:08):
final incarceration as being the best incarnationincarnation, incarceration. I know what incarceration
means. We just watched um Seriesof Unfortunate Events again and they say incarceration
here means and there and the children. We know what incarceration means. I
(40:31):
know what incarceration means. I saidthe wrong word. Incarnation yea, as
the best scare in Monsters inc Um. So it kind of took a lot
of different turns trying to decide whowas going to be the big scarer,
who was going to be the scarer, and who was going to be the
(40:51):
wanting to be a scarer kind ofperson um. Through the development, Pixar
worried about and characters whose main goalwas to scare children. Sure, I
mean, because you know Pixar,Yeah, they weren't in the scaring children
business yet back then. Yeah.And doctor also said that While they were
(41:15):
trying to solve that problem, histeam was bending over backwards trying to create
a story that still had monsters,because what are monsters for, right,
Scaring scaring kids children. A keymoment came when the team decided, and
this is again a pete doctor quote, Okay, he's the best scarer there,
(41:38):
he's the star quarterback. Design afterdesign, we really didn't know what
he was about. Disney noted toPixar early on that they did not want
the character to look like a guyin a suit, So so their their
main concern is, Okay, he'sthe best scare. We don't want kids
(42:00):
to be scared. Also, wedon't want kids to think that it's a
person dressed up in a Halloween costume. Actually, Johnson again quote Johnson,
who became Sully was planned to havetentacles for feet. Okay, but this
caused problems an animation, sure,as it always does, right, And
(42:25):
they also thought that the children wouldbe distracted by his tentacles. Um,
Mary's Mary Boo. Mary's age alsodiffered. I'm not saying that Boo's name
is Mary. I'm saying Boo originallyMary. Yes, Mary's age also differed
(42:45):
from draft to draft until they settledon the age of three and Boost three.
Boo is three. I feel likeBoo's younger than three. They say,
Boo is three. Go on,And then Pete Doctor actually said,
we found that the younger she was, the more dependent she was on Sulli.
They wanted her to be young butalso a motive and also old enough
(43:10):
to be a character, and oldenough to be independent enough but also young
enough to be dependent on Sulli.Exactly. Yeah, okay, So eventually
Johnson was renamed Sullivan. Sullivan alsowas supposed to have glasses, but they
but they also rejected that because theydidn't really want to animate that life here
(43:34):
um also um. Pete Doctor namedthe character Mike Mike Wazowski after the father
of his friend, after the fatherof Pete Doctor's friend, Frank Oz Oh.
Pete Doctor and Frank Oz were friends, and he named Mike Wasowski after
(43:54):
frank Oz's father, Mike Oz MikeI guess. Originally, also, Mike
had no arms and it was justhis legs, and again, due to
technical difficulties, it was just easierto animate him some arms. Also,
(44:15):
Bill Murray was considered for the roleof Sully, sure, which I feel
like Bill Murray should always be consideredfor some sort of role. You imagine
Bill Murray and also Billy Crystal inthe same movie Together Man. Apparently he
screen tested for the role and hewas interested, but when Pete Doctor was
(44:37):
unable to contact him, like PeteDoctor was trying to contact him, and
then he just took it as aknow when he couldn't get in contact with
him. Oh, Bill, Soit went to John Goodman, which I
believe was the better choice. German'samazing. Um, if you're going to
do a big scary monster, I'mnot scared of U, Bill Murray,
(45:00):
I'm scared of John Newman. John, I'm not scared of Randy Newman.
I'm scared of John Goodman, iswhat I mean. As far as voices
are concerned, I would like tohear that I would like to see the
screen test, the screen test ofBill Murray doing Sully. I don't think
Sully is scary as as Bill Murraysee it. Yeah, go on.
(45:23):
Also, um, I just wantedto quickly say that they had to go
through so many animation tests for Sully'sfur. Yeah, it was a huge,
huge development in animation in two thousandand one when they had Sully's fur
blow with the breeze or move theway it moved. It was a huge
(45:47):
just kind of technological revelation. Ithink animate that way. I think that's
been since it began. Absolutely,it's like, how can we make particle
effects? Most amazing move ever beenin every movie we do. They did
so many tests to where his furwould his fur would get caught on the
(46:08):
other objects on the screen, orhis fur would go through the objects on
the screen. They had to findnew ways of animation to get his fur
to move the way it did.That's just what makes Pixars like set aside
the stories and the movies themselves,but like, just focus on the visuals.
(46:28):
I mean we talked about we've Imean we've talked about this a million
times, but like every Pixar moviethat comes out, we're like, and
by the way, just pause andlook at the water, right exactly,
just go look at the water inLuca, Like, set aside everything else
in Luca and look at the water. It's freaking amazing. Yes, Like
absolutely, it boggles my mind.It ranked number one at the box office
(46:53):
on its opening weekend. It grossedsixty two million in North America just on
its opening, and it made twohundred and eighty nine almost two hundred ninety
million in North America. As faras like gross, gross, gross,
(47:15):
just a couple of very quick things, some cont controversy, some controversy,
which you know, I love.There was a children's songwriter named Laurie Madrid
who lives in Wyoming, that statedthat the company had stolen her ideas for
her nineteen seventy nineteen ninety seven poemcalled There's a Boy in My Closet,
(47:39):
which sounds terrifying. She said shemailed her poem to six publishers in nineteen
ninety nine, specifically Chronicle Books,and then she ended up turning into local
stage musical in her part of Wyoming. After seeing the trailer for Monsters,
(48:01):
Inc. She said that Chronicle Bookshad passed her work onto Pixar and that
the film was based on her work. In two thousand and one, she
filed the suit against Chronicle Books againstPixar against Disney in federal court, and
her lawyer asked the court to issuea preliminary injunction that would forbid Pixar and
(48:22):
Disney from releasing the film when thesuit was pending, and guess what they
did it like obviously it like itdidn't pan out for her. Did the
settler anything? The judge refused theinjunction. Oh no, that means she
didn't get money for her She gotzip it. I mean it was the
(48:45):
day before the film's release. Sohere's a question. Okay, here's a
thing. Here's the thing. Okay, but okay, no, okay.
So I'm thinking Judge is going DisneyPixar is released seeing a film tomorrow.
This woman's lawyer says she doesn't wantit to happen. Guess what, I'm
(49:05):
gonna let it happen because it's comingon five thousand, eight hundred screens in
three thousand and two hundred theaters acrossthe country. No, thank you,
I don't have time for this.Well, so here's the thing, and
this is back to we did itlast week, We're doing it this week.
Let's talk about art. M right, you other people can have the
(49:28):
same idea you want. And wellhere's the thing. There's there's two things
like if if pete doctor, ifpete doctor, Like I was looking at
a bunch of mail and looking ather poem, it was like, it
was like, this reminds me ofthoughts that I had as a child.
But I thought that there were monstersin arts, Like it's not unreasonable to
(49:49):
say that you owe her a creditof some kind. Maybe, but also
to your point, and I hundredpercent agree, you didn't invent the feeling
that there's someone in your closet.Absolutely not. That was something I felt
as a child. I never readyour poem, and you never read my
poem. What if written a poem? I have books of poetry that you've
(50:14):
never read. Pete doctor Oh,I thought you were talking to me.
I was like, no, youdon't um. And then in two thousand
and two, the judge ultimately ruledthat the film had nothing in common with
the poem. Yeah, there's closetdoors, is what has in common?
Like? Yeah, last thing.In two thousand and two, a man
(50:37):
named Stanley Moose Mouse excuse me mainlyin Stanley Mouse filed a lawsuit which he
said that the character the characters ofMike and Sully were based on drawings he
had made called Excuse My Dust,a film which he had tried to sell
to Hollywood in nineteen ninety eight.That lawsuit stated that the story artists from
(51:00):
Pixar visited Mouse in two thousand anddiscussed his works with him. Now,
that's different if that happened. Ifit happened. A Disney spokeswoman responded,
saying that the character characters were quotedeveloped independently by Pixar in Walt Disney Pictures
creative teams and do not infringe onanyone's copyrights. The case was ultimately settled
(51:25):
under undisclosed terms. Yeah, now, if if Pixar comes to your door,
also, what happens when Pixar comesto your door? That's what I'd
like to know. Knot knock Hi, I'm Karen from Pixar, and then
you die, you die just then? Also Karen, really hi, I'm
(51:46):
Karen Pixar. Um. Anyway,So, he claimed that they came to
him and talked to him about hisdrawings and his film that he had submitted
and then past and Soul's art andthat you know, that's you know,
it's whatever justice is in this world. Whatever, that's tough because that,
(52:08):
I mean, that kind of thinghappens in Hollywood where like you you pitch
an idea and I've seen this happen, like um, I've seen a couple
of things. I can't remember whoit is, someone someone like some actor
or like sta or Comedia or someonethat I that I know about. I
just happen to see on TikTok andthey were talking about like I need to
(52:30):
get the word out. I pitchedan idea to some to this film studio
and they passed, and then threeyears later my story is one in is
in movie form under a different name. I mean, like that kind of
thing happened, Absolutely no doubt thatthat happens. Yeah, I would only
(52:54):
hope that somebody that has an actualidea has it in some sort of writing,
like I don't. I don't knowwhat that entails at all at all.
Well, and also like if you'regoing to claim ownership of something like
going back to the first lady,I feel really bad, Like yeah,
because that feeling that has to bea terrible feeling, like believing that you
(53:16):
whether it's true or not, believingthat something an idea you had with stolen
and here they've made millions and billionsoff of it, right and you have
nothing to it and you feel likeyou're connected to it. But like the
idea that you could invent the ideathat something scary is in your closet,
right, Like, I'm sorry,I'm so sorry, lady. Like maybe
(53:39):
your probem is probably great. Yeah, and I'm sorry. It's just not
their movie about colorful monsters way beforenineteen ninety whatever it said that I was
scared of something in my closet.I mean, it just happens. That's
what kids are. That is whatkids are. There's scary things in your
closet. Absolutely, man, reallystormy. Yeah, we've had I don't
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people who were in like my barbershopchorus. It's nothing. Any of them
listen to this, probably not well, then there was no reason for you
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And I went hunt in you witand ain't it grand? I heard
Anita grand a grand? No,no, no, not, I need
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job at doing the really well researchsection of the show. I take time,
but I did take notes this weekfor my part, which is what
which is unusual? Unusual? Um? Okay, I watched this week a
(04:48):
movie I don't think either of ushad seen before, but which is kind
of in our it's in our wheelhouse, but it's not. And I'll talk
about why I watched Disney Disney's Planes. Is this Pixar? Because Cars was
Pixar? Right right, Okay,Cars's Pixar Because I asked. I asked,
(05:11):
you said, is it anything likecars? And you're like, it's
cars, it's planes. Yeah.So here's the deal. I watched Planes.
Um, it's not it's not verygood. Okay, it's not terrible.
I mean, anybody making a movieabout sentient transportation. Yeah, after
(05:39):
cars, cars right, Disney's Pixarcars right. Which, by the way,
when you think of cars, whatdo you think of Owen Wilson.
No, our nephew, Oh yeah, our nephew. Nolan loves cars,
loves cars. He'd probably loved planes. He probably liked planes. So Ben
and Catherine, if you're listening youfrom cars, well, he's also a
(06:01):
plus. He's also onto monsters.Now that may come in later. Here's
the deal. This movie exists.It came out in twenty thirteen. It
starts Dane Cook. Dane Cook.Really the main character in this movie is
Dane Cook. I don't think Irealized this. Um parents, yep.
(06:27):
Suitable for adults, yes, okay, go ahead. Dane Cook's stand up
comedy is gold. So Dane Cook'sstand up comedy is divisive. There are
people who really hate him as comedianand people who really love him. We
love him, We love him,and you know, take it or leave
it. It doesn't matter. Thisis our podcast because so we can say
(06:49):
what we want. We love him. Um. Not suitable, No,
not our children at all. Goback to the Vicious Circle Tour. It's
very funny, um but um,Dan Cook's stand up comedy is very good.
I never cared for him as anactor. So this comes from the
(07:10):
period of time that Dan Cook wastrying to be an actor. Is this
like what was the Dax Shepherd moviewhere they were like Costco employee, Yes,
employee of the month, employee ofthe month, but it was not
Costco. It was like something likeCostco or Sam Sorry it was a big
box store. Yeah right, andthey were yeah, um, I mean,
(07:31):
I mean he's like funny, yeah, but he's not an actor.
Here's the thing. Um, Okay, there's a lot of stuff about this
movie that is just like, let'sjust get to the to the to the
nuts and bolts of it, ifyou will. It is a knockoff of
It's just a knockoff of cars?Is this movie? What I like though,
is that Disney did it. Disneydid do it. It's not like
(07:56):
it's not like Disney Pixar came outwith cars and then like DreamWorks came out
with planes. It's not like that. But here's the deal. It's a
little bit like that. Oh butit's the same company. It is.
I'm just saying it makes me feelbetter that it is the same company.
But the problem, the problem Ipersonally have with it is and this is
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one of those things like and wehaven't done one of these this like point
of view in a while. Okay, it doesn't do the things you want
a like in the Cars Universe movieto do. So at the beginning to
go World of Cars, that's theway that they let you know it's connected.
Oh so this is they've made thatspecifically specific that this is the world
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of cars because in cars we seeplanes. Yeah, we see yeah,
we see helicopters and planes and yes, and so here's the thing, and
they've expanded you could you could takeit this way, and you could take
it as if in the Cars Universethey've expanded to all motor vehicles being sentient
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beings. Um, here's the problem, this is my these are little things.
Let's start with the little stuff forme. So I'm watching the movie
and I'll tell you about the plothere in a second. It's from twenty
thirteen, so I'm going to spoilthe heck out of this one. Um,
but we'll get this. I'll getto the story in second. So
but there's nothing like you don't seeDina co in this movie. You don't
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see even like rusties. Yeah,there's one a single reference to the original
Cars movie in this movie. Whatwas the reference. It's they scare tractors
at one point and they do thecow. Okay, that's the whole that's
the extent of reference to cars.I hate that tractors have been dumbed down
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that much. I know, becausetractors are much more than cows. Tractors
are much more than cows. Tractorsget the job done. I mean,
cows get the job done, don'tthey. No? Okay, I don't
know what cos you've been seeing,But okay, I mentioned okay, I
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mentioned Dan Cooks in this movie.Um, let's see who's the second most
famous person, actually the second mostserious person besides Dane Cook. Dane Cook
plays Dusty Cropper. No, excuseme, Dusty crop Popper. I was
fixing to say Jessica Simpson, butno, that was employ Um. Dane
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Cook plays Dusty crop Popper. He'sa he's an air plane who okay?
Who is a crop duster? Okay? And he dreams of being like an
international cross like Panglobal rally champion.There are a lot of crop duster jokes.
Yeah, Okay. Great. Theysay the word cropduster in this movie
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like fifty times, but in thein the in the in the way that
we would use it. Oh,like a like fart jokes. Yes,
mostly at the beginning. Yeah,there's ok okay, got it? Um
um so he so okay. SoDan Cook is the plane. He lands
at this like sort of local airstripwhere there's uh where there's like a kind
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of a crew of like repair trucksand and gas trucks that kind of work
there. The gas truck. Themain like his best buddy, who's kind
of like the stand in form materin this movie is played by Brad Garrett,
who was Robert the Brother on EverybodyLoves Raymond. Yes, okay,
um. And there's a forklift namedDottie who's played by Terry Hatcher. Okay,
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and that's pretty much the cast ofthis movie. Um. There's a
few other Like Cedric the Entertainer isin this one. He's like he's like
the the elder cropduster who's like,you can't go out in the world and
be a real and be a wouldbe a real plane. Yeah. Julia
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Louis Dreyfus is in here as aas a like as like a French Canadian.
Well I'll get to it in asecond, but she's like a French
Canadian plane in the race that heends up getting into. Uh. Gabriel
I Glaciers is in here. Uhokay. A few people make like make
appearances and they're here for a secondand they're gone. Val Kilmer, isn't
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it technically? Wow? Sindbad technically. So it's a lot of kind of
what we would consider as far aslike b actors. Yeah, yes,
John Klie is in here for asecond. Um, But this is the
weird thing. Like the bad guyin the movie who who The name of
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the character is RiPP Slinger. Wow, Um he was he was born to
be a bad person, right badplane. The guy who plays him is
like just he's he's a voice actorand he's done some voice acting things,
but he's not like an actor.So they didn't pull in like big Hollywood
muscle to be the bad guy inthe movie big Hollywood as in like like
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like you've seen them and you've seentheir real face, gotcha? You so
like b actors are you're in thisvoiceover movie, but also we've seen your
real you know what your face lookslike and that's not the case for the
bad guy. Also, this isan interesting thing that I just found out
when I was like pulling up theWikipedia page for this movie because I was
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like, I want to make sureI have the facts ready. Um,
the poster for planes barely has DanCook's character on it. It mostly has
Ripslinger on it, the bad guy. Yeah, because he's the cooler looking
airplane. Well show it to seeit? Yes, hang on, can
you see hold on? The greenplane that's rip Slinger. The orange plane
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that is a big in the posteris the bad guy's orange plane? Down
here that's day Cook. That's Dusty. No, the third one down is
like this weird like Mexican Luchador airplane. That second one, the orange and
white plane, that's was that theofficial poster? I think? So wow,
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Okay, here here here's the story. Um. The So it begins
with Dusty crop popper wants to beHe dreams was he going to be in
life? He dreams of being aa a like plane racing champion because he
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doesn't but he's a crop duster.But he's a crop duster. That is
not my particular dream, but dreamhe dreams of being more. Um,
here's a few fun facts about Dustycrop popper. He's afraid of heights.
Uh oh uh yeah. Um.He has sort of a daydream at the
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beginning where he's like flying alongside somelike fighter pilots, and that actually got
me at the beginning. I waslike, wait a second, he's flying
with them, and then I realizedlike he's in a dream, and then
it wasn't real. Can can wesay why we had to take a quick
parenting break. Our daughter just wanteda couple of little tiny sheets of nori.
She just wants some seaweed. Coracame in and said, can I
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have seaweed? So that's what we'redealing. So that's where we're at now,
Okay, let's continue. Dusty crophoppersa heights. He's a cropduster.
He's never he says a few times, like he's never flown above a thousand
feet, but he wants to bea racer. Okay, so heights.
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I suppose it is like a relativeterm, right, If you're a plane
and you're afraid of heights, you'regoing to be a cropduster. Even though
those of us that have stable feetupon the ground were to go up into
a crop dusting plane, we wouldthink that's high. It would feel high.
Yeah, like a thousand feet isnot low, but it's low for
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a plane for sure. So whatI mean is if you're a plane,
to be as close to the groundas possible, you're gonna crop dust.
Yeah makes sense. Yeah, okay, okay, but his um, his
his sort of crew quote unquote,and you can't see my hands do unquote
unquote fingers. He's his crew islike, you can do it, except
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for I think Terry Hatcher's character islike I don't think you can. But
literally, within the first ten minutesof the movie, it takes almost no
time at all. Where at arace. Okay, he's at a qualifying
race, and it's one monte ofwhiplash. Have you ever seen one of
those races? Um, These thesesort of like plane races where they like
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they have to they have to flyaround a course and then they have to
fly through like certain types of gateslike with their wings level. No.
I have been to plenty of likeair shows. Okay, so I have
seen like plane acrobatics, if that'sif that's a term or even not like
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an actually no, I have neverseen do people race planes? Yeah,
so what they do? So thisis true. This is real life.
So there are plane races hang on, even more dangerous. But the thing
is they don't they don't generally sendthem all out at once. It's like
they do laps and they're doing timela times. Okay, that makes sense,
um, And so this is whathe does in this qualifying thing,
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which doesn't make a lot of sensebecause what he wants to do is a
world it's around the world like marathon. Basically, he wants to go around
the world in this big rally race. Um. But the way that they're
doing qualifying for it is this sortof like it's almost like the equivalent of
like a horse steeple chase. Um. So in and this is but this
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is real. So this part,this part is real. Plane There are
plane races where they have to flylike a set course and when they go
through certain gates kind of like um, like when you see skiers go through
you know how they have to gothrough gates. Yeah, it's like that
they have, but like one versionof the gates you have to fly through
with your with your wings flat,okay, and then one versions you have
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to fly through like on a knifeedge, so you have to fly up
like on your wings like sideways.Okay, how we see every action adventure
movie canyon, Yeah, which alsohappens in this movie. Sure, so
they do one of these. Um, it doesn't make any sense because that's
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like and I actually watched the uhthe the Cinemasons video for planes also,
But that's actually what made me thinkof it is I saw that it's like
I should watch that, so Iwent and watch it. I watched the
Cinemasons. And if you're not subscribedto Cinema Sins, I think last week
we talked about um. Last weekwe talked about the honest trailers. Oh
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yeah, there's three. There's ifyou're into three into movies, there's three
things you should watch. There's honesttrailers, there's how it should have ended,
and there's Cinema Sins, which Ithink you just introduced me to Cinema
Sins. Yeah. I UM haveseen so many honest trailers and so many
how it should have ended, disum, but I didn't. I didn't.
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I don't think I I UM wasaware of Cinema Sins. So Cinemasons
is basically like depending on the movie. It's like between five and fifteen minutes.
Uh. And and there's longer onesfor like the big Blockbustern movies of
like, here's everything wrong with thismovie? Yeah, And it goes almost
scene by scene yea of the movie. I mean you're not watching the movie
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obviously, it absolutely skips a tonof it. Oh we got some thunder.
That was a big thing of thunder. You might have heard some thunder.
Um, So it condenses it.But you do see the movie,
you see them. So don't watchthese things unless you've seen the movie.
Yea. Their spoilery, yeah forsure. And there's also I didn't I
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haven't talked to you about this becauseI don't really watch this because it's it's
just not as fun. But there'sa sister site for Cinemasins called cinema Wins
and it's all the best thing okayokay um. And so I usually watch
Cinemasons just because it's funny and theguy who does the voice for it is
funny. But I saw that thatcame up. I was like, oh,
planes, I should watch that,And so that's what prompted me to
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do this this week. Anyway,I'm not gonna spend a lot of time
on it. He you already havebeen. I know, it's well,
we've been talking about a lot ofstuff. But here's so the long the
short of it is, he entersthis race, he comes in sixth.
Okay, but you need to bein the top five to qualify for the
big race. Oh my goodness,I hope nothing happens to one of the
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top five, to where he getsbumped up to one of the top five.
Oh no, well that's what happened. Okay, you guys, I
have not seen this movie. Ineed to reiterate, I have not seen
this movie. I just know whatmovies do. What ends up happening is
one of the one of the topones uses like an illegal fuel. Sure,
and there's a moment, and there'sa moment about like whether it's it's
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kind of like a it's kind oflike a legalize that moment in the movie
here, I mean, I mean, that's kind of appropriate with the time
we're in currently. Is a lotof a lot of people are qualifying for
Olympics right now. Oh sure,and that's didn't even think about that.
No, it's one very relevant forthis time. A lot of people are
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qualifying for the Olympics, and somepeople are being found to um have it
depends on your point of view overallbroken certain rules. Well, this is
the story of the person who tobe on the team because that person was
disqualified. Um okay, so andactually, come to think of it,
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we barely see those people again,like the people the top five from this
thing rip slingers. There the badguy who he was first, he's the
he's the world champion, he's onea million times um. But they get
to this world rally, which istotally different. None of the skills that
they showed in the in the qualifyingrace have anything to do with flying across
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oceans. Um. There's a lotof fun. There's there's some serious thunder
happening. Um. But they endup they end up flying through this thing.
Uh. Guess what. It's apretty big it's a pretty big problem
that he can't fly higher than athousand feet you think until like the fifth,
the fourth or fifth leg of therace. Is a bunch of legs
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of the race. Like he doesreally bad at the beginning, he keeps
coming at last, but on theone of the last couple of few legs
of the race, he's like,it turns out it's a really good thing
that he flies below a thousand feetbecause part of it is flying through a
canyon. Yeah, and then likepart of it is flying through like a
certain like a like nearest city.It's like, oh, yeah, these
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are all things I can do becauseI'm used to flying low, and so
I'm not gonna surprised anyone or spoilanything by telling you that he ends up
winning. What there is. Ijust want to point out a couple of
things that's so unexpected. Let melet me cut to the chase. This
movie is fine for you to watch. If your kid likes cars, they're
gonna like planes. Yeah. Soif your kid is obsessed with cars,
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maybe and you're ready for a littlebit of a change, tryout planes.
Here's the thing I mentioned before thatit's not made by Pixar, but it's
also not made by Disney Animation.It's made by Disney Tunes, and Disney
Tunes is a studio that brings yousuch things as those tinker Bell movies.
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Weird. Yeah, it's like theirthird string animation studio. Honestly, I
had no idea until this second thatDisney Tunes, right, really existed,
so Disney Tunes is their C levelanimation studio, and it shows it doesn't
look as good as picks are.Also, you don't get any nods other
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than that, like some of thevehicles look like vehicles from cars. You
don't get any you don't get anythingfrom cars, so there's nothing. There's
no connective tissue other than the wayit looks. So there's that. And
then there's also like just some weird, crude humor in this movie that is
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explicitly for adults. And by thatI mean there's moments. Okay, there's
two female characters. Two, there'stwo female characters in this movie. Three
excuse me, go ahead. Sorryfor the no I'm just saying sorry for
the interference. I grabbed my phoneto check the weather. They sounded loud.
There's three female characters in this movie. There's the there's the Terry Hatcher
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character I mentioned before. She's aforklift um I know. There is the
Julia Louis Drives character, who isthe she's a love interest for this other
like playing character who's from Mexico.It's like a luchador um and that's like
a weird thing. But like theyend up getting together because he's really uh,
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he keeps going kind of he's veryinto this, like characters really into
the Julia Louis drives character and she'slike, no, I don't like you.
I do not like you. No, I do not like you.
And then by the end there andlove, Well that's what happens. Yeah,
yeah, us women were fickle people, okay, and no it drives
me nuts. It drives me nutswhen a movie is showing a woman going
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like, h like I can't Idon't get you, I'm not interested in
you, and suddenly they're like,I love you. Like it just it.
It bugs me because understand that's nothow people are. And then there's
a there's an when they get tothe big international races and there's a plane
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from India who's played by her name'sis Shani and she's played by Panca Chopra,
yes um and and she she haslike a moment where she like kind
of turns on Dusty but then sheends up helping him at the end.
Um And I'm why didn't you mentionChopra? Sorry I can't say her name
correctly in the originalists of Celebrities.I didn't mean to not I think it
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was probably because I knew I wasgoing to talk about this section. I
didn't mean to leave her out.I just was wondering if you knew who
she was. Yeah, I do, Okay, okay, um. She
So she plays she plays a sheplays almost love interest of Dusty, not
quite almost kind of. But here'sthe thing. This is the thing that
that that I wanted to mention isthere's a moment when he meets her.
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She says, oh, hello,it's it's nice to meet you, and
like walks away, walks rolls away, and and he looks after and he
goes, whoa, look at thatpropeller. And she's got a propeller on
the backside. And that's like arunning thing. They come back to that
two or three times in the moviewhere he's like that propeller. I was
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just looking at her butt. Idon't like it. I didn't like it.
I didn't like it. I watchedI was watching it. I didn't
like it. Um. And actuallyin the cinemas, in the cins I'm
gonna say a cuss word. Ohno, no, no, it's not
going to be it's not we're notturning him to a explicit show I just
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I'm gonna be quoting something, okay, and so I'm gonna say a cuss
word as part of that. Soif you're listening with children present, be
prepared. Okay, pause it,listen to it in a second. This
isn't We're not turning into a blueshow. We're just I'm just gonna say
the thing. I was watching thecinema sense and I had already noted this.
I was like, man, theycome back to this butt thing a
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few times, right, and Iwas watching the cinema since before. Afterwards,
the guy who does it is like, man, this movie is all
about the ass. Yeah, that'ssuper annoying. It's really annoying. Only
this one female plane has her propelleron the backside, and they keep making
a big deal about so far.A lot of my feminism is really like
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hating this. Mone know that thismovie is like it's fine, and your
kid doesn't care about that, sothey're not going to catch it. Sure,
But also like I don't get Idon't get it. I don't understand
why that was a funny thing.It's supposed to be. I'm doing quote
hands everybody adult humor yet the grownups, but the thing is is that
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not all adults think that's funny.It is lightning and thundering a lot.
Yeah, maybe we should close thatdoor that's bringing some of the thunder sounds
that is planes. I'm not goingto go into the whole thing because you
don't need it. I don't needthis movie. I'm against it. I've
canceled it already. You're gonna notice. You're gonna notice the like not his
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goodness of this movie. There areeven things like I'm okay, I'm still
spending time on it. There aremoments where they do like wipes, you
know how when you're watching a kid'smovie and they do like a wipe on
the screen between scenes, and it'llbe like a character walking by in the
shore. Yeah, but it's notnatural. It's just like here's a car
because this is a car show,and it's just like a car goes by,
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and that's the wipe to take youbetween scenes. That happens a lot
in this movie. So basically,you're saying, if your kid likes cars
and you need a break, ifyou if you planes, if you've watched
all the cars a million times,this could give you a break. But
if you like cars, you don'twatch place. If you like cars,
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you're not gonna like this movie.Yeah, but unless you're a two year
old, unless you're a two yearold, unless you're a kid who the
movie's for. Yeah, and theyput all this stuff in there for the
grown ups. But I just don'tthink I think it was a little tone
deaf. I think they didn't quitedo it very well. So it's not
great, it's not bad. It'sright in the middle. It's on Disney
pluts. If you want to watchit great, Let's say, let's pull
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over. I mean, it's startinga storm. We should pull over under
an underpass, just in case atornado. I'm having some problems with my
Winschew wipers and I need to pullover in Prolovoe and we're back. I
didn't realize when we began this episodethat it was going to be kind of
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a Nlan heavy episode. Yeah,we're we're kind of doing a lot about
our love stuff. You targeted atour nephew. Yeah, didn't mean to
do that. I mean, likewe said, Nolan is super into cars.
He will sit still for cars,and a two year old boy doesn't
really sit still much. And latelyhe's also begetting getting into what he calls
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Monsters, which is what I'm actuallytalking about today. I'm talking about one
of my favorites of the Disney franchise, Disney Pixar franchise, which is Monsters.
Yes, so interesting that we bothhad both were on a Nolan Pixar
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wavelength happening, even though yours wasn'ttechnically that. So I'm going to talk
about Monsters Inc. Monsters Inc.Is a two thousand and one American computer
animated comedy film produced by Pixar anddistributed by Disney. So as we all
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know, when it comes to DisneyPixar film films, a lot of the
times we get some Pete Doctor stuff, sure, especially early. Yeah,
a lot of early picks are butI'm not saying like a cross the right.
Actually he came in, So MonstersInc. Is one of the one
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of the first after like the toystories and stuff, And Pete Doctor wasn't
necessarily involved so much with the toystory stuff, um, but he started
getting more involved when it came afterthe toy story stuff. Um, and
that includes uh, Monsters Inc.Yeah, So he began developing this film
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in nineteen ninety six. So ninetysix to two thousand and one. That's
a that's a five year project.Yea. Um. And when I say
he wasn't, because I'm fixing toread this quote and it may sound like
I'm being redundant when I say hewasn't as involved with Toy Story, That's
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not what I mean. He directedI believe Monsters inc. Shoot, now,
I'm going to feel bad if that'swrong. He did not direct Toy
Story, but he was on theproduction team with Toy Story. So he
says, quote, when we weremaking Toy Story, everybody came out to
me and said, hey, Itotally believe that my toys came to life
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when I left the room. Sohow many of us that have seen Toy
Story ever think like, when weleft the room, our toys came to
life. I mean that happens.I'm still in his quote, Um,
starting right now. So when Disneyasked us to do something, do some
more films, I wanted to tapinto a childlike notion that was similar to
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that I knew monsters were coming outof my closet when I was a kid,
So I said, Hey, let'sdo a film about monsters. So
what I love about Pete and umand a lot of his production team.
Is that they really do tap intothese very very basic childhood thoughts, thoughts,
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fears, loves, um, joys, this is, this is they
tap into these what children think aboutand I love that. Um, go
ahead, just a quick thing.I just did some quick googling about Pete
Doctor and early pisar Um. PeteDoctor did not direct the Toy Story one,
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right, Yes, but he wason the story team, yes,
so, so he helped develop ToyStory yes, um. And then he
directed monsters in Yes. And alsoI don't know if you're gonna talking about
this or not, but Randy Newmanalso did the music. Can I continue
police because my next sentence, okay, literally was going to be Randy Newman,
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who composed the music for Pixar's threeprior films, yeah, returned to
compose for this movie. I justthink that's incredible that they were. I
can't believe you stole that from underme. I just didn't know. I'm
I didn't sorry. I didn't meanto seal it. It's just that I
didn't realize that Randy Newman was likethe John Williams of Yes, absolutely absolutely,
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Um. So it um Jan generatedover UM five hundred and seventy seven
million dollars worldwide and became the thirdhighest grossing film of two thousand and one.
Wow, two thousand and one,No think of two thousand and one.
(35:45):
Yeah, that you sucked. Ialso want to say, yeah,
I also want to just point outthat like five hundred seventy I'm looking at
I'm looking at Wikipedia numbers, fiveseventy seven point four million UM. It's
what it's generated the box office.That's more than some Marvel movies. I
mean, that's some big money.Well, if you're thinking about it.
(36:06):
So like Pixar became Pixar when theystarted doing these things, Yeah, because
Pixar at first was toy Story Yeah, in Bug's Life, right. But
what I mean is like there wasa very limited amount of things that Pixar
was doing, even though the thingsthey were doing were very good. Yeah,
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So when Pixar suddenly comes out withsomething that's completely different, yeah for
them, at the time, Yeah, it was like kind of it was
a new project, wasn't It wasunknown? Absolutely. M Monsters, Inc.
Won the Academy Award for Best OriginalSong. If I Didn't Have You,
and it was nominated for the firstBest Animated Feature, but it lost
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to Shrek Freaking Shrek Freaking Shrek.Shrek was not near as good as Monster
Think that that is my truth,and it was also nominated for Best Original
Score and Best Sound Editing. Umso Pete Doctor's original idea actually was a
thirty year old man who dealt withmonsters that he drew in a book as
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a child and came back to botherhim as an adult. So it seems
like super dark. Yeah, thatseems really dark. And then each monster
represented a fear he had, okay, and conquering those fears caused the monsters
to disappear. I see this beinga theme for a film that would be
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good. Yeah, but I don'tfeel like it's one of those. Maybe
it's a now Pixar film, maybeit's the spinoff of like inside Out.
But what I mean is like Pixarat that time was very different than Pixar
at this time. Yeah, forsure, Pixar in two thousand and one
(37:59):
was a lot more lighthearted than Pixarin twenty twenty one, twenty years ago.
I'm just gonna let you sit inyour existential crisis, So can I
tell you what the original Monsters Inc. Was going to be about? What
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was Between nineteen ninety six and twothousand, The lead monster and child went
through radical changes as the story evolved. As the story continued to develop,
the child varied in age and gender. Ultimately, they decided that a little
girl would be the best counterpart tothe big, furry, eight foot tall
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monster because basically, when you're thinkingof opposites, that's kind of what you
come up with. After the littleGirl was settled upon, the character continued
to undergo changes, at one pointbeing from Ireland, at one point being
African American. And originally the characterof the little girl, whose original name
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was Mary, was a fearless sevenyear old who has been toughened by years
of teasing and pranks from four olderbrothers. That's a very different movie.
Yes. Also in contrast, Johnson, who is the original Sully Okay Johnson
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is nervous about the possibility of losinghis job after the boss at Monsters Inc.
Announced a downsizing. He feels enviousbecause a scarer Ned, who has
actually become the Randall okay Ned,is the company's top performer. Oh so,
originally the character that became Randall wasthe company's top performers. They kind
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of okay and making Randall the mesquisright right. Um. Through various drafts,
Johnson who became Sully his occupation andwent back and forth from being a
scarer to working in other areas ofthe company like a janitor um until it's
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final incarceration as being the best incarnationincarnation, incarceration. I know what incarceration
means. We just watched um Seriesof Unfortunate Events again and they say incarceration
here means and there and the children. We know what incarceration means. I
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know what incarceration means. I saidthe wrong word. Incarnation yea, as
the best scare in Monsters inc Um. So it kind of took a lot
of different turns trying to decide whowas going to be the big scarer,
who was going to be the scarer, and who was going to be the
(40:51):
wanting to be a scarer kind ofperson um. Through the development, Pixar
worried about and characters whose main goalwas to scare children. Sure, I
mean, because you know Pixar,Yeah, they weren't in the scaring children
business yet back then. Yeah.And doctor also said that While they were
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trying to solve that problem, histeam was bending over backwards trying to create
a story that still had monsters,because what are monsters for, right,
Scaring scaring kids children. A keymoment came when the team decided, and
this is again a pete doctor quote, Okay, he's the best scarer there,
(41:38):
he's the star quarterback. Design afterdesign, we really didn't know what
he was about. Disney noted toPixar early on that they did not want
the character to look like a guyin a suit, So so their their
main concern is, Okay, he'sthe best scare. We don't want kids
(42:00):
to be scared. Also, wedon't want kids to think that it's a
person dressed up in a Halloween costume. Actually, Johnson again quote Johnson,
who became Sully was planned to havetentacles for feet. Okay, but this
caused problems an animation, sure,as it always does, right, And
(42:25):
they also thought that the children wouldbe distracted by his tentacles. Um,
Mary's Mary Boo. Mary's age alsodiffered. I'm not saying that Boo's name
is Mary. I'm saying Boo originallyMary. Yes, Mary's age also differed
(42:45):
from draft to draft until they settledon the age of three and Boost three.
Boo is three. I feel likeBoo's younger than three. They say,
Boo is three. Go on,And then Pete Doctor actually said,
we found that the younger she was, the more dependent she was on Sulli.
They wanted her to be young butalso a motive and also old enough
(43:10):
to be a character, and oldenough to be independent enough but also young
enough to be dependent on Sulli.Exactly. Yeah, okay, So eventually
Johnson was renamed Sullivan. Sullivan alsowas supposed to have glasses, but they
but they also rejected that because theydidn't really want to animate that life here
(43:34):
um also um. Pete Doctor namedthe character Mike Mike Wazowski after the father
of his friend, after the fatherof Pete Doctor's friend, Frank Oz Oh.
Pete Doctor and Frank Oz were friends, and he named Mike Wasowski after
(43:54):
frank Oz's father, Mike Oz MikeI guess. Originally, also, Mike
had no arms and it was justhis legs, and again, due to
technical difficulties, it was just easierto animate him some arms. Also,
(44:15):
Bill Murray was considered for the roleof Sully, sure, which I feel
like Bill Murray should always be consideredfor some sort of role. You imagine
Bill Murray and also Billy Crystal inthe same movie Together Man. Apparently he
screen tested for the role and hewas interested, but when Pete Doctor was
(44:37):
unable to contact him, like PeteDoctor was trying to contact him, and
then he just took it as aknow when he couldn't get in contact with
him. Oh, Bill, Soit went to John Goodman, which I
believe was the better choice. German'samazing. Um, if you're going to
do a big scary monster, I'mnot scared of U, Bill Murray,
(45:00):
I'm scared of John Newman. John, I'm not scared of Randy Newman.
I'm scared of John Goodman, iswhat I mean. As far as voices
are concerned, I would like tohear that I would like to see the
screen test, the screen test ofBill Murray doing Sully. I don't think
Sully is scary as as Bill Murraysee it. Yeah, go on.
(45:23):
Also, um, I just wantedto quickly say that they had to go
through so many animation tests for Sully'sfur. Yeah, it was a huge,
huge development in animation in two thousandand one when they had Sully's fur
blow with the breeze or move theway it moved. It was a huge
(45:47):
just kind of technological revelation. Ithink animate that way. I think that's
been since it began. Absolutely,it's like, how can we make particle
effects? Most amazing move ever beenin every movie we do. They did
so many tests to where his furwould his fur would get caught on the
(46:08):
other objects on the screen, orhis fur would go through the objects on
the screen. They had to findnew ways of animation to get his fur
to move the way it did.That's just what makes Pixars like set aside
the stories and the movies themselves,but like, just focus on the visuals.
(46:28):
I mean we talked about we've Imean we've talked about this a million
times, but like every Pixar moviethat comes out, we're like, and
by the way, just pause andlook at the water, right exactly,
just go look at the water inLuca, Like, set aside everything else
in Luca and look at the water. It's freaking amazing. Yes, Like
absolutely, it boggles my mind.It ranked number one at the box office
(46:53):
on its opening weekend. It grossedsixty two million in North America just on
its opening, and it made twohundred and eighty nine almost two hundred ninety
million in North America. As faras like gross, gross, gross,
(47:15):
just a couple of very quick things, some cont controversy, some controversy,
which you know, I love.There was a children's songwriter named Laurie Madrid
who lives in Wyoming, that statedthat the company had stolen her ideas for
her nineteen seventy nineteen ninety seven poemcalled There's a Boy in My Closet,
(47:39):
which sounds terrifying. She said shemailed her poem to six publishers in nineteen
ninety nine, specifically Chronicle Books,and then she ended up turning into local
stage musical in her part of Wyoming. After seeing the trailer for Monsters,
(48:01):
Inc. She said that Chronicle Bookshad passed her work onto Pixar and that
the film was based on her work. In two thousand and one, she
filed the suit against Chronicle Books againstPixar against Disney in federal court, and
her lawyer asked the court to issuea preliminary injunction that would forbid Pixar and
(48:22):
Disney from releasing the film when thesuit was pending, and guess what they
did it like obviously it like itdidn't pan out for her. Did the
settler anything? The judge refused theinjunction. Oh no, that means she
didn't get money for her She gotzip it. I mean it was the
(48:45):
day before the film's release. Sohere's a question. Okay, here's a
thing. Here's the thing. Okay, but okay, no, okay.
So I'm thinking Judge is going DisneyPixar is released seeing a film tomorrow.
This woman's lawyer says she doesn't wantit to happen. Guess what, I'm
(49:05):
gonna let it happen because it's comingon five thousand, eight hundred screens in
three thousand and two hundred theaters acrossthe country. No, thank you,
I don't have time for this.Well, so here's the thing, and
this is back to we did itlast week, We're doing it this week.
Let's talk about art. M right, you other people can have the
(49:28):
same idea you want. And wellhere's the thing. There's there's two things
like if if pete doctor, ifpete doctor, Like I was looking at
a bunch of mail and looking ather poem, it was like, it
was like, this reminds me ofthoughts that I had as a child.
But I thought that there were monstersin arts, Like it's not unreasonable to
(49:49):
say that you owe her a creditof some kind. Maybe, but also
to your point, and I hundredpercent agree, you didn't invent the feeling
that there's someone in your closet.Absolutely not. That was something I felt
as a child. I never readyour poem, and you never read my
poem. What if written a poem? I have books of poetry that you've
(50:14):
never read. Pete doctor Oh,I thought you were talking to me.
I was like, no, youdon't um. And then in two thousand
and two, the judge ultimately ruledthat the film had nothing in common with
the poem. Yeah, there's closetdoors, is what has in common?
Like? Yeah, last thing.In two thousand and two, a man
(50:37):
named Stanley Moose Mouse excuse me mainlyin Stanley Mouse filed a lawsuit which he
said that the character the characters ofMike and Sully were based on drawings he
had made called Excuse My Dust,a film which he had tried to sell
to Hollywood in nineteen ninety eight.That lawsuit stated that the story artists from
(51:00):
Pixar visited Mouse in two thousand anddiscussed his works with him. Now,
that's different if that happened. Ifit happened. A Disney spokeswoman responded,
saying that the character characters were quotedeveloped independently by Pixar in Walt Disney Pictures
creative teams and do not infringe onanyone's copyrights. The case was ultimately settled
(51:25):
under undisclosed terms. Yeah, now, if if Pixar comes to your door,
also, what happens when Pixar comesto your door? That's what I'd
like to know. Knot knock Hi, I'm Karen from Pixar, and then
you die, you die just then? Also Karen, really hi, I'm
(51:46):
Karen Pixar. Um. Anyway,So, he claimed that they came to
him and talked to him about hisdrawings and his film that he had submitted
and then past and Soul's art andthat you know, that's you know,
it's whatever justice is in this world. Whatever, that's tough because that,
(52:08):
I mean, that kind of thinghappens in Hollywood where like you you pitch
an idea and I've seen this happen, like um, I've seen a couple
of things. I can't remember whoit is, someone someone like some actor
or like sta or Comedia or someonethat I that I know about. I
just happen to see on TikTok andthey were talking about like I need to
(52:30):
get the word out. I pitchedan idea to some to this film studio
and they passed, and then threeyears later my story is one in is
in movie form under a different name. I mean, like that kind of
thing happened, Absolutely no doubt thatthat happens. Yeah, I would only
(52:54):
hope that somebody that has an actualidea has it in some sort of writing,
like I don't. I don't knowwhat that entails at all at all.
Well, and also like if you'regoing to claim ownership of something like
going back to the first lady,I feel really bad, Like yeah,
because that feeling that has to bea terrible feeling, like believing that you
(53:16):
whether it's true or not, believingthat something an idea you had with stolen
and here they've made millions and billionsoff of it, right and you have
nothing to it and you feel likeyou're connected to it. But like the
idea that you could invent the ideathat something scary is in your closet,
right, Like, I'm sorry,I'm so sorry, lady. Like maybe
(53:39):
your probem is probably great. Yeah, and I'm sorry. It's just not
their movie about colorful monsters way beforenineteen ninety whatever it said that I was
scared of something in my closet.I mean, it just happens. That's
what kids are. That is whatkids are. There's scary things in your
closet. Absolutely, man, reallystormy. Yeah, we've had I don't
(54:07):
know, if you don't care,you probably don't care, and you may
not have even you probably don't hearit. But it's pretty noisy after some
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