Episode 250: We're Baaaack! 2024 Has Been a Year!

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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hello, and welcome to the Not Your Mom's Gamer Podcast,
the podcast where we talk about Wow that I just
went way back. I just I was about to go
back to our old old intro. Let's not do that,
all right, So welcome to the Not Your Mom's Game

(00:56):
of podcast podcasts where we talk about games and gaming
from a feminist perspective. Respective, I think that's the old one.
My name is Samantha Blackman and I'm an associate professor
here p Due University of West Lafier, Indiana. I am
joined tonight by two of our amazing co hosts, Jordan
Lakomski and Victoria Breaker. How y'all doing? It's been so long,

(01:25):
so long, so tired. We're supposed to come back from
hiatus refreshed and energetic. No like I missed that demo?
All right? Jordan, how was that? We'll go to you then,
and then we'll come back to Victoria for her news

(01:46):
and updates. Jordan, how are you? Who are you?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well? Twenty twenty four has been a year, very hard
to describe, but I'm Jordan Leakomski. I work as a
senior environment outsourced artist. That that's no moon in Los
Angeles where despite the hiatus, still working on things and
stuff and yeah, good year, not great year, upstewns. Things

(02:18):
are moving forward, figuring out stuff. It's been kind of
an exciting year in some ways but challenging and with permission,
am allowed to say this, but our household has had
multiple ADHD diagnosis, finally started seeing a therapist, got depression
and insomnia diagnosis. So we're working through that, which has

(02:41):
made a lot of things more clear, and we are excited,
but obviously with anything, it's a process. Twenty twenty four,
it's moving. At least that's what I can say.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Twenty four is like, yay, twenty twenty four, I get it.
So Victoria, who are you? How are you that?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Twenty twenty four is also also been a year. I'm
Victoria Bragger. I'm an assistant professor of English and Technical
Communication at Missouri University of Science and Technology, which is
Missouries and t So I moved. I moved, and I'm
tired and getting into the groove of the new job.

(03:33):
And it's week two and I'm tired. Teaching a game
studies class had them playing mobile games this week.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh I beg.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
We had a lot of conversations about capitalism, capitalism and monetization, okay.
And then when we reached like the end, I was like, okay,
we gotta wrap up because then we got to discuss it.
They they went to try and basically spend all of
the free money that the game gives you when you
start a mobile game, it's like, hey, here's your like

(04:08):
real based money. Try it out and speed up the
processes and see what you like. And then by the
end they wasted all the money, blew all the money
to shorten the timers. And then they were like, is
there a credit card connect it to this account? And
I was like probably, but let's not.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I was gonna say, was it your account?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was Nick, so it's still in like same account
because it was Township. Yeah yeah, I made them into farmers.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I've played Township. Though I know that
one it, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
There's something about it that when I got home today
after class, I'm like, why do I want to download
this silly little mobile game onto my phone and pay it?
I was like, no, must resist. Do not have time
to get sucked into a mobile game? Mm hmm, But
it would be so.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Easy, extremely so, extremely so well, you know, first year,
first year, and ten track job is always exhausting. It's
always exhausting. So but it sounds like, you know, we've
all made it this far and we are I am

(05:30):
going to, I don't know, sacrifice something that's not living,
because if I say something living, people gonna be mad.
If I'm gonna sacrifice something that's not burn a stack
of game guides to bring us a smooth end to

(05:52):
twenty twenty four. There we go. That's what I'll do.
I'll burn a stack of game guides. Somebody's gonna be
mad about that too.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I was like, are these lit old game guides? So
then they should be in the archives.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
That's say that's not gonna go over. Well, either that's
not gonna go over. I won't sacrifice anything.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Then we're halfway over, Jordan, We're halfway over. We're almost
done with twenty twenty four, and the next year we
can be like twenty twenty five has been a year.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
There we go. I feel like we've been saying that
since twenty twenty. I feel like we've been saying this
is twenty twenty. But I think twenty twenty four, I mean,
it has been harder for me than twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty three, probably combined. But you know, I feel
like I'm coming out on the other side fight. I

(06:41):
feel like I'm coming down on the other side. FI.
So fingers crossed, fingers crossed.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
That we all are.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah. And then my semester started off with a bang
because we moved not our house but our offices and
the lab like over the summer, and I literally got
the keys to my office and the code for my
lab the week before classes started. So everything in both

(07:15):
of those rooms is still in boxes and I'm waiting
for people to come in and move things around and
finish unboxing stuff I had. And then I got to
figure out what's not there because at first, blush, we're
already missing the TV.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Oh no, the move I mean, obviously not cool get
in the code a week before. But is this a
better location?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Like?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Is this no more no more cockroaches an asbestos?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Is what I was you're asking, Yeah, theoretically yes, Oh no,
I haven't seen a cockroach yet. I have not seen
a cockroach yet. It's been like three weeks that I've
been in and out of that building. I have not
seen a cockroach. Chat I don't know about the asbestos.
I would hope they wouldn't move us from one asbestos
latent building to another one. But we moved.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
We moved into Stanley Culture. So and but the good
thing is is my new lab is twice as big
as the other one.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
So as soon as they as soon as they finished
like getting stuff settled, I get to order a bunch
of new equipment because I had money that I had
gotten from doing stuff that I was gonna use for
the lab. But I was like, I'm not buying new
stuff just to pack it up and move it. That's

(08:43):
just making more work for myself. I wait, so like
last semester, last two semesters, I've just been carrying equipment
from home to class every week. You know. I was
kind of kicking myself near the end. But I mean,
in the grand sky things, it was probably best. And
I also said, okay, summertime packing me was very smart

(09:08):
because when I was packing up all the boxes, I
put like all the Nintendo consoles in one box, all
the Xbox consoles in one box, all the PlayStation consoles
in one box, all the retro consoles in one box. Right,
So I was.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Putting stuff in the same boxes, and I was.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Like, should I label these boxes? And then I was like, no,
that's stupid. If I labeled these boxes, it's just like, hey,
steal me, because you know I don't. I'm a pessimist.
I'm a pessimist and I don't and I don't trust people.
And I was like, yeah, somebody's just gonna be like

(09:44):
jackpot and just take the one they would like. Oh,
I like PlayStation, I'm just take this pot. And then
I would have to replace all the PlayStation consoles instead
of just buying a couple of new ones.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So I have the heavel on demolition webcam like bookmarked.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
You want to watch it come down?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I do?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I do, I really do, And Engineering apparently does too,
because you know they have a webcam trained on it.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Lovely, lovely they as well? They should as well they should.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I'm ready for that building. I want to know how
they're going to bring it down. Well, I know how
they're supposed.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
To bring it down with all that asbestos.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
I want to know if they're gonna bring it down
the right way.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
They'll bring it down right right period, Like we don't
think about it.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, maybe I'll make sure that I'm not on
my campus that week. Maybe I'll do zoom classes that week,
because you know, I'm always a little skeptical. I'm always
a little skeptical because you know, when you have those
old buildings that are full of asbest is they're either

(11:02):
supposed to they're I think they're supposed to do both.
It's like gut them of it as much of the
asbestos as they can when it's still sealed, and then
like keep it hosed down while they're tearing it down.
But that sounds like too much work for them to
do the right way, and I suspect they won't do it.

(11:24):
I really do suspect.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean, because it's gonna be hard to tear that
building down because there are buildings that are like super
close to it on three sides.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Chemistry is right behind, and they have their chemical depot
like right.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
There right so that I'm real tentative about that whole
demolition process. We'll see, we'll see. I feel like they
should have done it if they were gonna tear it
that when they were gonna tear it down, like they

(12:00):
should have done it during the summer, when there were
a minimal number of people like around, and then not
scheduled anything in those in those three buildings around it,
and like had people like move and hold like people
who were in there to have offices and they're like
not being there while they were tearing it down.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
But but how could they inconvenience the largest number of people.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's just issues. Yeah, just do it in middle semester.
Makes perfect sense, Yeah, because you know there's gonna there's
gonna be no way that people are like parking over there.
And that's like there's a whole like little parking area
right there in front of the building, including a bunch
of handicap spots. But we shall see, we shall see

(12:48):
what happens. But you know, I'm I'm excited to set
up the set up the new lab. It's like it's
like a new toy. And plus I get to order
a bunch of you know, new stuff and then a

(13:09):
couple of new TVs apparently because I thought I was
only gonna have to order one, but now I gotta
order two and some monitors and stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I'm looking forward to It's like Christmas shopping.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's like Christmas, And I should probably order it before
it gets too close to Christmas because it's gonna be
hard to get stuff, isn't it, like consoles and stuff?
Maybe maybe Anyway, So here we are, we're just catching
up what happens when we go on hiatus. All right,

(13:45):
so we'll do our usual. What you're playing, what you're reading,
what you're drinking, and then uh, just chitchat for a while,
so we will victory. How about you again, Jordan, what
you're playing.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
I am playing a few new games. Well new is
in that they are new to myself, not that they
have just released. The first one we played this me
and my partner played this weekend, and it's called Very
Very Valet, and it's an indie game where one to

(14:24):
four players maybe online co op, but obviously we were
playing couch co op. Are trying to park cars and
then return cars without damaging them, but also doing it quickly,
and there's UFOs taking cars and you have to launch

(14:47):
cars off of ramps.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Anyway, it's very chaotic, very fun. It's a similar feeling
and play style to Moving Out. I wouldn't say it's
necessarily as chaotic as overcooked, though there's definitely a few
levels that get pretty intense. But it was so much fun.

(15:13):
We finished it in four hours. It's on sale right
now on PlayStation for four dollars and forty nine cents,
and yeah, we just had so much fun. It's a
very good short game, and it has a similar set

(15:36):
up in that the person that you're talking to, the
main narrator, is very serious about this valet job, similar
to Moving Out, but also it has like this ridiculous
overtone of yeah, launch those cars over the ramp and
you're trying not to run into each other and you're
trying not to fall off. And some customers like go

(15:57):
into places and come out really fast. Others take a
long time, so you have to pay attention to what
they're saying so that you can park the cars in
a better orientation and arrangement so that it's easier to
get in and out. And yeah, it was just a blast,
very chaotic. Recommend if you like Overcooked, Moving Out, tools

(16:22):
up those types of games.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I love those games. It always is it just like
local co op.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
That I don't know. I know it can support local
cook because that's what we played. I don't know if
it supports online co op see because my kid won't
play that with me.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
She doesn't like those kinds of games. They stress her out.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And I love those kinds of games, but I have
a group of friends that I play those kinds of
games with usually, and that's what I was looking to
see if it had like online co op. It does it.
It doesn't look like it does. Esteem now I got
to sign it to my my PlayStation app and see
if it does. But okay, thank you, I'll put it

(17:05):
on my I'll put it on my list just to
be on the say set.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, and some Nintendo Switch and PC, but I don't
know if it's on sale for those platforms.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, it's not on Steam. It's fifteen dollars on a Steam.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Okay, then yeah, PlayStation is where we played it. And
it also does this really fun thing where when you're
done with a level, it gives you snapshots throughout of
what has happened, and then it gives you a highlight
of each character, and you're supposed to vote on what
your favorite highlight is. And some of them are kind

(17:37):
of generic just running around, but seeing your characters up
close as they're like crashing into cars or flying over
rams is pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's cool. I'm trying to sign into PlayStation and see
if it has if it has like online out there. Okay,
what about you, Victoria, what you're playing?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Wait? I'm playing one other game, new one, well yeah,
not new to me. Lies of P, which is like
a retelling of Pinocchio in a more dark fantasy baroque

(18:23):
type art style. It's an RPG action adventure described as
souls like I don't know how to explain souls like
games in terms of if I like them and how
I play them, because I have not tried dark souls.
I have not tried elden Ring. I tried Bloodborne and

(18:46):
I could not get past the tutorial. But Lies of
P and Jedi Survivor, which are both tagged as souls
like games, I am able to get through and I'm
enjoying a lot. And this one I find very interesting
because it has a different take on choice and morality,

(19:13):
with telling the truth versus lying. And it was interesting
that I started playing this game right around the same
time I started watching season six of Dragon Prints, which
I know is at TV show and I won't go
too much into detail if anyone's watching it since it's new,
but season six had a very interesting and nuanced take,

(19:33):
especially for like a family friendly kid show of telling
the truth versus lying, and lying isn't always bad or good.
Telling the truth isn't always bad or good. It really
depends on like the context and the motivation behind it.

(19:54):
If you're just trying to like alleviate a burden for
yourself that's gonna harm someone else and depending on their
consent of whether or not they want the truth. So yeah,
played those both at the same time. And then in
this game, it's not necessarily saying either one is good

(20:17):
or bad, but that it's a basis of you becoming
more human and that you have the ability to lie
because a lot of the puppets, which are like mechanized
robots in this game, they have a law where they
cannot lie. So you, playing as Pinocchio, choosing to lie

(20:37):
gives you higher humanity, which is a hidden stat And
I have no idea how that's going to play out,
but it was just a wild different description and take
that I hadn't seen in any other game before. Like
a lot of the gameplay itself isn't different. I've seen choice,
I've seen dialogue options. I've seen like with mass effect,

(21:01):
you have the different I forget what it's called, the
different routes that you can take that it's not really
as visualized or defined in this game. It definitely has
an impact on the character and the way that people
perceive you. So I'm interested to see how it ends.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Got it? Okay, I see I've wondered about that game.
But they said souls like, and I was like, nope,
but I kind of trust you because you and I
tend to have really similar tastes and a lot of
especially RPGs, not always in books. But okay, we're.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
About fifty to fifty. We had some wine up there, and.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I'm just joking. I'm just joking because you always tell
me about these books, and when you were explaining them,
they sound so fascinating, and then I buy them and
I'm like, oh, this isn't quite my cup of tea,
but that's okay. But that's okay because it makes me
read things outside of my normal kind of wheelhouse.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, we also just need to switch because usually when
you're describing books that you've read, I'm like, oh, I've
already read that and I liked it, so.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
She's gotta swap mm hmmm hm. Okay, so it looks
like very value. Valet is only couch co op, but
it's college co op for up to eight people. For
up to eight people, so you can it's like a
good party game. Yeah, but my kid won't play it,

(22:45):
so as I said, And it's on sale until the
twenty ninth, so it got one more day if you're
gonna buy it on the PlayStation. I can't believe it's
not not on sale or none see boom.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I will say lies of It is definitely on
the harder end for me than Jedi Survivor was, and
I do die more often, but I am still able
to progress, and there's elements that help you in this
game that are not like in Bloodborne or Dark Souls.

(23:21):
So still may not line up, but I.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Like wait for it to go on sale just to
be able to save that. Yeah, there we go, so
I won't be as mad, all right, Thank you? Jordan Victoria,
which player.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I am still on my Fallout bullshit? I yeah, I'm
still playing fall Out seventy six and a new season
comes out next week, so waiting for that kind of
giving it a little bit of a break this week
because the Mothman Equinox just finished, and you know, I
love my Cryptids.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
God know.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Mm hm, And so giving it a bit of a
break for this week and then on next Tuesday, I'll
just take it up again. But been playing a lot
of Modern Warfare three two because we're trying to complete
all of the stuff in Zombies and get all the
schematics and get everything done before Black Op six comes out.

(24:24):
Mm hmmm, because we'll shift to that one probably instantly.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I was gonna say, because once you start playing a
new one, you don't.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Go back, yeah, unless it's bad like Vanguard.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Unless it's bad like Vanguard. And I tried to play Vanguard.
I did, I think I played. I streamed it once
for like, I don't know, four or five hours, and
then I like went in and played maybe once or twice.
And then I was like, why am I doing this
to myself? I hate this gay?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, so what's disappointing right now? And I understand why
because it's you know, Trey Arc and Infinity Ward and
historical sort of play there. But all of your skins
that you've bought won't go with you to Black Ops six.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Even though they were making a huge deal about Modern
Warfare two and Modern Warfare three, They're like, oh, your
skins will go and like everything moving forward and then
and Trey Arc is like, no.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But that I understand. You know, I wasn't expected too, honestly,
because it was going from one Modern Warfare to another one.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yes, and that's why I understand. But I really wish
that they would stop releasing cool looking new skins.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I know I have to skip the store. I have
to skip the store because I'm like, no, I cannot
pay you twenty dollars for another skin, and in two
months the new game will be out and I won't
use it at all.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Exactly like I just I can't. I have my web
skin and some.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Of my tubbies, that's what I call them. I love mine.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
They are so adorable. Have you seen them in the
black lights? And their eyes are soulless. If you take
them into zombies and you you drink one of the sodas,
one of the perk up sodas, you shove it in
the middle of your face.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Like the best thing. They are themies. They I call
them TM teletubbies. They look they're just they're like what
you would what you would get if you like ordered
a teletubby plushy four dollars ninety nine off t move.
That is what it would look like when it came
to your house.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, and there's four, which means it's perfect because you know,
my gaming group is four people and so everybody, I'm
the green one, which means I'm Stubs, which is fitting
because I'm kind of short, especially when everybody else is
over six feet tall. So I'm Stubs. And I don't
remember what we were talking about, but Nick plays, my partner,

(27:04):
plays as Webbs, and we were doing something and I
was like, wow, is it all about you? He's like,
it's Webbs and Friends. And we're like, oh, oh wow, okay,
oh wow. Somebody is the lead singer of this band
and it's not me.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
And the weaponry go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
You said tell a Tubbies if you bought them for
a dollar ninety nine on TU. I don't know what
these look like, but that sounds like nightmare.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Fuel, Jordan, I need you to google it right now. Wobbs,
w WUBZ Modern Warfare three.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, you need to see these WBZ and some friends,
Webs and Friends and the but the weapons that you
get with that pack.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That they turn everybody into friends, I.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Say, but it makes the triple noise when you do it,
and then their heads explode, So I call them tribulators. Yep,
you take them to the zombies.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
You make the zombies friends too.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Oh and then their heads explode. It's the best sound.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And then it is so toxic. I mean, because I
get mad when people do it to me, so I
just imagine how mad everybody else is getting when I
do it to them.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
And then I just find one person every.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Match because I play more multiplayer than zombies, so I
find one person every match, and I just chase that
one person around and keep tribulating them over and over again.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I just love them so much. And apparently there was
a lot of discourse about them online about how they
were too, like they weren't serious and basically tell the
tubbies in my warst simulator and I just can't. And
I was like, remember what game we are. I know
we're the toxic community everyone, but we are not Battlefield.

(28:57):
Battlefield is who gets to be really mad about Santa Claus?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
We have Nicki Minaj in st stiletto pumps. But the webs,
the webs are too far.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
The webs are too far.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
The webs are too far. One step too far, webs
are too far.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, sorry, this maybe controversial. I see the Teletubbies in this,
m H. But when I first saw images, my first
thought was honestly, teenage mutant ninja turtles in really really
fuzzy costumes.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I also see kind of like gritty, a little bit
of gritty involved. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, the googly eyes were a surprised.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And they move, they move around with you. It's great.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, okay, I'm glad this still something but not nightmare fuel.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
They're fun.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I'm just so happy they exist. Yes, and then I'm
playing a lot of plate up. I really got into
play up. It's really fun for me and my partner
to just play played up. We have several different franchises.
We have one that we have franchised three times now.

(30:18):
It is literally just a coffee shop, but we now
also make we make coffee, iced coffee, lattes, tea, and
we are now serving pumpkin pie. There you go, no
apple pie. We're serving apple pie with it. So yeah,

(30:39):
that's our It's been franchised three times as fourteen different
cards on it that are impacting, like the play style
and everything so it's probably gonna end soon. I don't
know if we'll franchise it again, but I have hope
for it.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So for those of you who don't know, played Up
is like, oh, it's like an Overcooked type game, but
it's a roguelike. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
You build your own little restaurant, and then you have
different recipes you can choose, like coffee or turkey or
tacos or like cake, just a little bakery, cake shop,
and then every day gets harder, and then every three
days something new happens. So if you start up your

(31:28):
little shop, then you get to pick a new card,
and they typically just make play harder for you, like
customers will leave a bigger mess, and customers are pigs.
They're the worst. I don't know how they're throwing coffee everywhere,
but they're throwing coffee everywhere.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, and then when you don't if you don't like
serve all your tables in time, it just like it's
like okay, game over. So if like, like you know,
in for example, Overcooked, if you if you like miss
an order, you just go ahead and make the next
order and hope you get enough points. No, you miss

(32:08):
an order, game over and you have to start over
from the beginning, but you do get to keep your upgrades,
right yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Uh, you get a new if you level up, they
give you an upgrade like a little thing that you
can take with you. So you get you get a
little shop area, and then you also unlock new restaurant
like builds.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And new UH.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Recipes summer easier than others.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So honestly, as someone who worked at most Southwestern grill,
the throwing round of coffee is really not that far off.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
I know, like I worked, I worked at one of
UH at a din in pizza hut, and I don't
know how they did it. Well, I do know because
I watched, but there would be pizza everywhere, and especially kids.
Kids would take the bread sticks and like rub them
into the carpet.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
People are gross. See it's not always the kid. Just
and replace the coffee with the queso and the soda
and or your tip.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
They will put your tip in like a glass of
water and then flip the glass of water upside down
on the table because you know, teenagers and they're funny
or young adults and they're funny. And then you have
to get your your you have to get the cup
up and you just slide them in you underneath. But yeah,
people are the worst in restaurants.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's why when my kid was a little one,
I always cleaned up after her as much as I could,
even when we went out to eat, and I always
left a huge tip because kids are when I and
I'm when I'm saying kids. Because she was not a
bad kid. So by the time she was old enough

(33:52):
to not just throw her entire plate on the floor.
So not a not an infant, not a not a toddler,
she didn't do it because she had table manners. But
you know, when she was like an infant in a
high chair, whenever she would be done eating, she would
do a windshell wiper because she would want her she

(34:14):
would want the table in front of her clear, so
she would just put her hands down and just win.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
She'll wiping and back and forth to just throw all
the food on the floor.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
So you had to have to watch her very closely.
So when she was done eating and just about to
do it, I'd have to snatch the food off the train,
otherwise it was gonna hit the floor. But then I
would always I was I was the parent who would
always get down on the floor and pick up all
the food because I didn't want my server to have
to do it because my kid was a pig.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
But yeah, yeah, that was That was always a joy.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That was always a joy. But most people are like, man,
my server will do it for this two dollars, I'm
gonna leave for a tip. I was, but I was
also a server, uh for.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Like fifteen years, so I would not do that.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
You can always tell the people that used to work
in restaurants. And then we're playing piles, which is just
a little basic matching game like card game, table game,
and you get I think it's like sixty five tens,

(35:27):
ten or so groups of four, and you have six
piles in front of you and they're all mixed up
and you're trying to match them. And so there's a
group of piles in the center like one, two, three,
and four, and you can open you can pick up
a pile, look at it and be like, okay, well
I don't want these cards. So you trade the cards

(35:48):
back and forth from the middle and between your hand,
and you can only trade one at a time, So
you put one down, pick one up, and you're trying
to get all of your piles to have four matching cards,
and that can get surprisingly stressful because like you don't
go one after the other ego as fast as you can.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
That sounds fun.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I like, it is fun. It is fun.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I do.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I enjoy card games. So yeah, that's what that's what
we're playing. That's what I'm playing. I'm mostly just social playing.
I'm like, you want to play a game? Just trying
to make people play games with me right now?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Well, you know that helps, so I'll go through quickly
what I'm playing.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
So I did. I did. I did play some Played
Up on a charity stream because Amanda, Amanda Phillips was
kind enough to join me to raise money for Able
Gamers and Victorious. So Kindley had suggested in like a
stream before that we play played up.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
So we tried Played Up.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Because we Amanda and I have along with Amanda and
Kashana are my chaos gaming friends, so we play a
lot of stuff like Overcooked and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
So Played Up was like right up our alley. So
Amanda was like, I'll.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Play with you. So we played played Up. It was fun.
It is it. I feel like that's a little stressful
because I love rogue lights, rogue lights and rogue lights.
But at the same time, I don't like the stress
of thinking that it's gonna take all my stuff away.
But it was a lot of fun. It was a

(37:28):
lot of fun for the time that we played, and
we'll probably play more. But I've also been playing. I
finally gave in and bought Bulatro, which is kind of
weird because I don't play poker in real life because
I don't gamble at all. Because if I feel like,

(37:50):
if if I go to Vegas and like put a
quarter in a slot machine, I'm gonna come home to
no house because you know, I'm a little stubborn. I'm like,
I need my quarterback, and I'm gonna keep playing until
I get the quarterback. Anyway, So Bulatro because I do
like the idea of poker, because I've played like other poker,

(38:12):
like poker games like on my phone and stuff before,
not the ones that you know you pay money for,
but also Yatzi, which is nothing but poker with dice.
So and everybody was always talking about how good Blatro was,
how good Bilatro was, and I bought it when I

(38:37):
got back from uh.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
From a trip where I was doing a thing, and.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I was like, I'm just gonna try it. And then
next thing, I know, was like five hours later. So
I was like, see, this is why I can't play
poker in real life because I just get so kind
of invested in it and but I'm really enjoying it.
And then like yes esterday they did a free update,
so they have all these new card sets for it
that are like among Us and the Witcher and Dave

(39:10):
the Diver and Vampire Survivors. So they added like five
or six new card backs with animations and I think
like special.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Power ups for free yesterday.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Bulatro is so good if you are inclined to card
games in any way, especially if it's poker, try Bolatro.
And it's a rogue light, so it's like, which, like
I said, I like rogue lights and rogue lights a lot.
But at the same time, I get mad because you
can sit there, you could be do you could be
on a run for like three, four or five hours,

(39:48):
and what happens. What happens to me is I get
tired and I'm like, I'm just gonna finish this run,
just finish this run. And because I'm so sleepy, I
clicked the wrong card, and once you click the wrong cards,
you can kiss your ass goodbye because there's no coming
back once you've been Once you're like a playing with
like enough rounds under your bed belt. One wrong move

(40:11):
and it's over you. One wrong move, you might as
well turn it off because there's no way. Uh So,
then I'll click the wrong card and I'm like, no,
why is there no fucking confirm? But that's when I
get mad, and I'm like, and there needs to be
a confirm, But no, there doesn't need to be a confirm.
But I need to take my ass to sleep when
I'm tired. But Billatro is a blast, So I've been

(40:36):
playing that. And then the game that I said I
was not gonna play but my kid wanted to play
was Fields of Mystery, which is like it's got like
Sailor Moon type characters in a farming sim It's an

(40:58):
early access on Steam, and my kid decided she wanted
to play it, so I made her buy it for her.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I made her buy it for herself, and she was shocked.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
But but like in the two weeks prior, I had
bought her like two other RPGs, and she was like,
why do I have to buy this for myself. I
was like, because you have the money for it. She
was like, but you usually buy my games. I was like,
I bought you two games in the last two weeks.
That was like one hundred dollars. You could spend fourteen

(41:32):
dollars of your own money. She was like fine, So
she and and plus when she when she spends her
own money for them, she tends to play them longer.
She she usually finishes the games since she starts anyway,
but she'll play them straight through when she spends her
own money because she's more invested in it.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So uh.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
But she was having so much fun, and I was like, sister,
she was playing it on because it's an early access,
it's only on Steam.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I was like, oh. I was like, well, maybe I'll
play it when she's not playing it because we share
our Steam accounts, which is not fair because I have
like five hundred and fifty games and she has like three.
But I was like, I'm just playing when she's not
playing it. But she's spent all of her gaming time

(42:24):
playing Fields of Mystery and she hates farming sims. She
hates farming sims, which is amazing. I mean that is
that is very telling for a farming sim that my kid,
who hates farming sims has been playing this game like
NonStop with all her gaming time, and so she was
always telling me about it. So we would be hanging

(42:46):
out together, like sitting in the game room or both,
like laying on the chase playing, like both playing on
our Steam decks or switches or whatever. Or I'd be
playing on my switch and Steam deck, or we both
be on our Steam decks and I couldn't play because
she was playing, because she can't play shared games at
the same time. So finally I was like, well, I
want to check it out. So I guess I got
to give them my fourteen dollars. And it's a really

(43:09):
good farming sim. So I've been having a lot of
fund playing it. So we just, like after dinner sometimes
we'll just be chilling out together. We'll just lay next
to each other on the chase and be working on
our farms and showing each other what's going on on
our screens. And she's a rock farmer, aka she hates

(43:32):
farming and farming sims, so she's like, why would I
pay these money for Why would I pay these people
money for my seeds for these seeds, and when I
could just walk around and collect all these rocks and
sell them. So that's what she was doing for like
the first two seasons in the game, was being a
rock farmer. And then last night or the night before,

(43:53):
she said, and she texted me a picture of her
farm and she has like full plots of stuff planted
just with the caption I am no longer a rock farmer,
and it was the cutest thing. So yeah, Fields of
Mystery has been a lot of fun. My kid got

(44:14):
me hooked. And then the thing that I am always playing,
always playing because.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
I'm hooked.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
It's my popcorn game is Call of Duty Modern Warfare three.
I'm trying to make sure because they add they add
new weapons with every battle pass, so I have to
do all the Camo challenges on all the Modern Warfare
three guns. So I have to finish all the Camo
challenges on on this season's guns, and I have to

(44:44):
have them all finished by the time Black Ops six
comes out, because once Black Ops six comes out, I'm
not going back.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
So even though I don't get to keep the guns
or take them with.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Me, I still feel like I want to have that
You know that full Armory maxed out with the with
the camos. So that's that's just the way I play
Call of Duty. I play Call of Duty different from
the way other people play Call of Duty. I need
quest I need quest based call of Duty multiplayer, so

(45:16):
I make the Camo challenges my quests. So that's what
I'm playing. Okay, what are we reading, Jordan? Let me
jump to you again. What you're reading?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
So in line with the twenty twenty four rollercoaster, Uh
started off not reading, then reading a lot, than not
reading then reading a lot, and I'm at the kind
of middle level I guess now, but currently reading the

(45:53):
third and final book in the Throng, the New Throng trilogy,
Thrown Ascendency. I'm like a third of the way through,
similar to the previous books, I'm really enjoying it. It's
really interesting to see what goes on in between, like
the movies and TV shows. If you're interested in that

(46:14):
lore and Star Wars in general, then also Thrown in general.
I find interesting as a character, the way he thinks,
the way he plans, the motivations, especially as we're finding
out more as we read through the trilogy, what his
actual goals are and why he has aligned himself with

(46:36):
the Empire, which doesn't always justify his actions, but seeing
that conflict play out in his head and how other
characters precede him is still really interesting. So I am
reading it. I put it on pause just because of

(46:58):
everything going on, but it is interesting to be reading
it at the same time that all of these Star
Wars TV shows are coming out, including Ahsoka in which
he's a main protagonist or antagonist in that and seeing
the history or reading the history and seeing it play

(47:20):
out on screen, so that's kind of cool to go
across those two points of media. And then I am
hoping to start the fifth book and the Avatar Chronicles,
which for people that don't know Avatar the Last Airbender
does have a series of novels, not just comic books,

(47:42):
and they're doing three duologies. The first duology is Avtar Kyoshi,
the second duology is Avatar yang Chin, and then the
third duology is Avatar Roku. And I don't know why.
It could be many reasons, contractual, different opportunities, but the

(48:05):
person that wrote the first duologies is not the person
that is writing the third duology. And I'm only one
chapter in so I really cannot say much about the book,
but obviously I love Avatar. It's always so interesting to
read these books find more out about the history these characters.

(48:28):
I don't know if this book, because it's a new author,
will take a different tone, but again with the other novels,
it's very Avatar in spirit. But also it's not necessarily

(48:50):
fully family friendly or kid friendly books like the TV
show is. It does take on a lot more violence
or implications that the TV show may address put classes over.

(49:15):
So just to keep in mind if you're buying this
book for other people, I would definitely say it's more
young adult akain to Hunger Games and some of the
stuff that happens. It's not like trying to think about
the other books I read when I was your like
Magic Treehouse or anything like that. But if you like Avatar,

(49:43):
a good investment. Interesting. Again, only one chapter, and so
I can't say too much as to like this new
author's writing style if I'm actually interested in the story,
but it's Avatar, so I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
And that's interesting that you say that, because I feel like.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
YA novels today are not the Ya novels both when
I was a kid, and when I was a teacher, right,
not you know when I was when I was still
teaching in the public school system. YA novels today feel

(50:24):
like adult novels that they just put YA on to
broaden the audience.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
No, there's some books that I read that's classified as YA,
and I'm like that.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
To me, this growth folk stuff, it feels.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Like new adult or adult. Like, maybe not the whole
book is that way, but that doesn't mean that this
one or these couple of scenes doesn't have a huge impact,
and you're still reading that and experiencing it as a reader.
So Yeah, when I say young adult, I mean in
terms of when I was ready young adult, which was

(51:03):
Hungry Games, so similar to that level of description and
things that are happening.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, because I read Hunger Games too. I was not
a young adult, but I read Hunger Games too, and
that felt like young adult. But a lot of the
stuff that I read now that's labeled as young adult,
I'm like this grow folks stuff. They just saying these
kids are sixteen seventeen, but this is definitely grow folks stuff.
If you didn't tell me how old these kids were,
I'd say they were thirty five.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Which is very interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Which is very interesting, and I'm wondering, you know, maybe
my kids just you know, because you know, she's sixteen, y'all,
and if you've been listening for a while, because there's
some people who I know who've been listening since the
podcast started and p was like two or three, and
when I say she's sixteen, they're like, n uh, she's sixteen.

(51:59):
And so maybe she's just maybe I'm lucky and she's
not going through these thirty five year old problems that
these other kids in these books are going through, and
maybe these maybe this is young of those stuff. I
don't know. I'm confused. I'm compuzzled.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
But yeah, it's interesting you bring that up because in
the Avatar book, well, I don't know about this duology,
but the previous two Kyoshi and Yankshin. It's interesting because
they specifically bring up that in relation to their age.
Like that is a big point of conversation amongst both
the people surrounding the Avatar and Navature themselves because a

(52:40):
huge part of their culture across the world is dependent
on this one individual or is highly influenced by this
one individual. So when one reincarnates, you have up to
two decades of in between in which a lot can
have happen and people try to utilize their advantage. But

(53:03):
even twenty years old, it's still a very young person
to assume the mantle of this immense burden and to
be putting themselves in the way of a lot of
harm and manipulation. And twenty is generous. It's usually fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
or eighteen, And that is also a conversation in the
first two books as well, But that doesn't change the

(53:27):
fact that even if the conversation is happening, it's still
an eighteen year old or sixteen year old person that
is going through these things.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
So mhm, yep, okay, it sounds interesting, though.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Let's see.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Well, I'll tell, I'll tell what I've been reading.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
The book that I'm reading right now and I'm really
really enjoying is called The Monsters We Five by Leslie Penelope.
I bought I don't know, I uh, I bought this book.
It was it was one of it was one of
my people, cough and grab these books and let's get

(54:13):
out of here books. Because p and I started going
back to the bookstore, you know, like physically and not
just ordering things online, doing our usual like grab a
whole stack of books and go sit in a cafe
and get a drink and go through the books and
choose two or three books and then leave kind of
thing right from the books. But what we also found

(54:36):
what happened. But we would go like right when the
bookstore happened, because you know, we in the Midwest, and
we would be in a COVID like in a COVID
surge or something, and nobody in there would have on
a mask except for a couple of the employees, right,
So we had a couple of times that we would
be in there and we would you know, it's early
in the morning, and we like as long as we

(54:56):
get out of here before you know the Usually it's
the because since she's since she's homeschooled, we can go
during the week, right, and that cuts down on the traffic.
But it is the it's the little old people who
come in there at like one o'clock in the afternoon
for they bagel and they decaf coffee and ain't wearing

(55:17):
no masks, but they coughing all over the place. So
we would go in and we'd get our stacks and
we'd be sitting there, and then somebody would come in
and just start coughing everywhere, and I was like, just
grab that stack. We gonna take them. Ball we going home.
We would go through these books when we get home.
You just take the whole stack. Because usually, like we'll

(55:37):
both bring a stack of like ten books to the
table and start going through them, right, and say, figure
out which ones, Like we both do it just because
she learned from me and I learned from my mother. Right,
It's like you go through when you read like the
first chapter and see if it like grabs you, and
if it does, you put it in a keepstack.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
But we would get there and somebody, I think after
a while, I think it was the people that it
was the It was the employees that Barnes and Noble
just sending people over there to cough in our general
direction so that we would buy them all.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
But also you're reading the first chapter.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
All ten, Well, yeah, I mean, or if not, you
can tell, like, if it's a good one, I'll read
the whole first chapter. If it's not, if it doesn't
grab me, then I'll stop before I finish the whole
first chapter. But yeah, it only takes a couple of hours.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I only say that because we have two bookstores are
very close to us, one and which is like a
much smaller version of Borders or Barnes and Noble in
one in which is called the Bodice. So you'll understand
what that is. And I understand the stacks because every

(56:52):
time we go anyway, I have literally a whole bookshelf
that is overflowing of to be red.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
So oh yeah, yeah, I have a I have a
I have a small rubber make of small rubber make
crate sitting outside my office door, just to the left.
I'm like, I'm not even taking them in the office.
I'm gonna put them right here. And I tell myself,
I tell myself that when I need a new book,
I'm just gonna I have to go out there and
take one out of that box and not go to

(57:23):
the bookstore at door. So it's still sitting there. It
sits next to my other my other tote of shame,
my other rubber made tote of shame that Victorian knows about.
And that's pr stuff that people send me. But I

(57:43):
feel bad about throwing it away, so I try. I
wait until people need stuff, and then I send it
to them.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Yeah, what like when my keyboard stopped working with my dissertation,
I was like, Sam, can't write no more.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I was like keyboard kind of keyboards? You what? I
was like, you what wired?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You?

Speaker 1 (57:58):
What wired?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Is you? What?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Clickie? You were quiet? What you want?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
I got everything and I signed it up with the
keyboard from a PR. I was like, I got it
all because my back's face wasn't working.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
So this one was one of the ones in the
in the tote of shame outside my door, and I
was like, I meant to read this. I really did,
because I really kind of enjoyed it when I started
at the when I started it at the bookstore, and
I don't think I read very much of it. I
must That's why I said it must have been one
of the people were coughing on as days, because I

(58:37):
started reading it and I was like, oh, I remember
this book. But when I got to the end of
the first chapter chapter, I didn't remember what happened at
the end of the So I must have been like
actively reading it when somebody came over and started coughing
in our general direction and we just grabbed everything and left.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
And it's the monsters we would defy. That book is
so good.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's about a Oh I know why I bought it though,
because I had just read another book about a little
girl who could talk to ghosts, and this is about
an adult woman who could talk to ghosts. But they're
not she's not just talking to them. People make deals
with them, and they call them the enigmas. And so

(59:20):
people make deals with the enigmas for what they want,
right that they want love. But every enigma has a
trick right. So in return for granting your wish, they
give you a trick right, and that is something you
must live with for your entire life, or until they
decide that your dead is paid and they get to decide,

(59:41):
and you know, like most tricky things, most of them decide.
Never decide your dad is paid. But people want whatever
it is so bad that they agree to it. And
so there's this mystery going on because people in it's
set in the nineteen twenties. In fact, I think it's
set in nineteen twenty and it's set in d C.

(01:00:03):
And d c'son area that I know well. And it's
also about UH African American folks who UH have are
part of that UH northern diaspora from you know, from
the South to the north and the and during that
you know, during that time period, and so it's something
that really resonates with me. One is one, it's a

(01:00:25):
period of time that I've studied. Two that is the
story of my family. But it's just so well written
in terms of the fact that I'm like, yeah, these
this is the lore, this is you know, these are
this is the culture, this is the way people talk.
This linguistically is accurate, right in terms of colloquially, it's accurate.

(01:00:51):
And it just resonates with me on all kinds of levels.
It's such a good book. It's such a good book.
It's called them As We Defy, uh. And the book
that I read right before that, so it's all about magic,
and look, this one is all about magic and root
work and and all of this other and all of
this other stuff that is very firmly rooted in the

(01:01:14):
African American community. But the book that I read before that,
whereas it is the called The Conjurors, which no, I'm sorry,
not the Conjurors, the Conductors. It's the Conductors. And that
one's by Nicole Glover, which is about a couple who

(01:01:35):
do magic right, mostly kind of uh astro magic root work,
that kind of stuff that uh were during the Antebellum
period were actively helping people. That's why they call the
Conductors like escape to slavery, but like uh after emancipation,

(01:01:57):
they're also kind of they they are starting to sew
mysteries right because there they become like these uh, supernatural
detectives of sort. And it's a really really it's another
really really good book, and uh, I'm absolutely I'm absolutely

(01:02:17):
fascinated by it. I'm absolutely fascinated by it because, like
I said, again, this is a period that I'm well
familiar with because I studied when when when literature was
my thing and even when red km was my thing,
because my my graduate work was and my early even
my early professional work was archival in nature. So I

(01:02:40):
studied right this time period and what was going on
with the race during this time period. So for to
like situate me in there with magic and black folks, oh,
I'm so happy. I'm so happy. And uh so the
Conductors was Nicole Glover highly recommend, uh the Monsters We

(01:03:04):
Defy is Leslie Penelope highly recommend. If I had to
say which one to read first? Oh, gosh, read the
Monsters We Defy first. And I say that because there's
no sequel. And read The Conductors next, because.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
That's the first in the series. That's the first in
the series.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
And and I started reading The Monsters We Defined because
I was on my way out to the bookstore to
buy the By, the second book in that in that
Glover series, and I was like, I'm taking a book
out of this box. I'm taking a book out of
this box.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
So I just chose something that was similar. And then
I'm after, I'm not gonna lie after this. No, after this,
I'm gonna read the damn book club book I'm supposed
to be reading. Then I'm gonna get the next book
in the Glover series. Yeah, so that's that's what I'm reading. That,
that's what I'm reading.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
I do have to add, what a long time ago,
before the Heiaus, I had a book and I recommended it,
and I know our history of recommendations from from me,
I said, Getty in the ninth did you read that one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I actually when I was in was I in Chicago
and New York because I've been over the last couple
of the last month, I've been in both Chicago and
New York, and both times I came back with a
suitcase full of books because I went to the Strand
when I was in New York, and then I went
to a couple of bookstores and in this cute little

(01:04:40):
indie bookstore that actually is a is a nonprofit that
benefits children in the foster care system, and I came
back with shit. I just said I was gonna go
buy that New Glover, that New Glover book I forgot.
I got like three tope bags full of books that

(01:05:01):
I bought in New York and Chicago sitting in my
room because I put in their tope bags from being
in my suitcase. I bought Gideon the Ninth, so I
have a physical copy and it's actually sitting on the
sofa in my bedroom because I took it out of
the bag and I was like, I was supposed to

(01:05:23):
read this book and I couldn't remember why, but I
bought it. So but I have not yet read it,
but I do have it and I just bought it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Okay, I just wanted to ask because this was my
third third round, so we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
That three strikes you out, Jordans.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I know, I know, I'm sorry. I have not read
the other books. And again I'm not gonna say too
much or give away why, but because I really struggled
with the ending and it hit me really hard and
I didn't know how to feel about it, and I
had to say that when we first talked. I always

(01:06:02):
think of stuff later when recommending this book again. For me,
it started off slow, which isn't necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
A I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
When people describe that to me, I usually can still
get in, but I understand why other people from whose
interest in the first few chapters, So it does pick
up speed later in the book. It takes a while
to get there. And it also is I realized I
did not give this morning. It is very similar to

(01:06:39):
Hunger Games, but more on the adult side of you
have a group of people coming together of all ranges
of locations, backgrounds, age and space, horror or that things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
No, that's fine. I don't mind slow books, especially if
that slowness is world building, because I've read enough kind
of quote unquote classic literature where the first you know,
one hundred pages, it's just them describing the landscape to
set the tone that doesn't bother me. I don't mind
books that take their time with world building at all.

(01:07:26):
And I'm glad now, I'm glad. I remember, I just
knew in my head when I saw the book at
the bookstore. I was like, I'm supposed to read this,
and I told her, remember why so I bought it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Well, I got you bought it, But yeah, I would
recommend reading the back because I wish I had known
that there was like a character description and uh definition
description in the back of the book. I wish they
put it in the front. There were some things that

(01:08:01):
happened that I'm like, I don't know what you are saying,
got you? But if I subscribe and you do understand
as you read the book, but it does help to
know from the beginning and all that stuff is in
the back and the glossary and all.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
That and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Full range of cast thirteen years old to seventy years old.
So okay, just setting the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I'll move it up on my to be read list.
Maybe I'll read it before I read that next level.
But it's a healthy book too. I was scared to
read it in bed because I was like, if I
dropped this on my head.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
It's gonna hurt. And I have a bad habit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Of falling asleep reading and dropping the book that i'm
reading on my face because that's a pretty healthy size book.
But I do have it, and I'm gonna read it.
I read it, I'll move it. I'll move it up
on the list. I'll move it up on the list.
Maybe I'll read it at the same time as I'm
reading my book club book.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
You don't have to, And if you don't like it,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
No, you don't have to. App you doesn't force me
to buy it. I always tell you that. I always
tease you, but I don't mean it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Oh I know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
But yeah, so because our twitch our twitch club book
club book is what I'm supposed to be reading, and
I've read like, I don't know, five six seven books
since I since I was supposed to start that one.
I lost it. What I do with it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah? This is it. It is What the River Knows
by Isabelle I Bina's is our book club book. It's
sitting and it's hardcover. So I definitely can't read this
one in bed because if I dropped that, I might
knock out a two. It's about four hundred pages long
and it's and it's hard, so we don't want to
read that a bit. But yeah, and Victoria, you're in

(01:10:09):
you you just moved. Are you reading any.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Good comics though?

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I you always reading good comics though, Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I have insomnia, and so my phone's right there and
I can just read web tunes m and so I've
been reading I think it's Omniscent Reader, and it's this
guy who has been reading a book and he's the
only person that ever finished this book because apparently the
book was poorly written, and everything in the book starts

(01:10:41):
coming true like a it's a massive game and it's
a game to the death basically, and so he has
all of this knowledge and so he gets power ups
related to his knowledge, and it's called like breaking the
fourth Wall, and the fourth wall protections him and so yeah,
and I recently found out that they're going to turn
it into a anime on crunchy roll, so be interested

(01:11:07):
to see how that turns out. I haven't watched much
anime in a very long time, like I think the
last one I watched was fruits Basket and the updated
one that came out, and so I might. I might
renew my subscription to crunchy roll to see how this
anime turns out, with this random comic that I read
when I can't sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Mm hmm. So let me just say this. You said
you haven't read, you haven't watched a lot of anime
like lately. I mean even before you renew your subscription
to crunchy roll. Do you have Netflix? Oh my god,
please watch Delicious and Dungeon deliciously.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
It keeps coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Okay, it keeps coming up on my recommend it. It's like,
you should watch this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
And I was like, oh my.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
God, please watch Delicious in Dungeon.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Okay, I will watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
I like Jordan's giggle. Jordan agrees, I watch a lot
of anime.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I will do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I will watch it. We're coming out of hiatus, so
I will. I will watch this anime m Delicious and
always come out at this with like so many things
I need to watch and read and play. This is
why we go on hiatus. We have to catch up
all the things that we haven't done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
It's like all the games we were supposed to play,
all the books we were supposed to read, and Jordan's
so far, Jordan's so much in my head. I'm all
the way in another state just looking at books and
be like I was supposed to buy this.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
I'd say sorry, but sorry, not sorry, not sorry, sorry,
not sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
So, okay, what are we drinking? Jordan? Would you drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
So? A long time ago, I described that I usually
just like wines and beers, preferably either stouts or IPAs
hard liquor. Unless it's like mixed with a lot of
stuff is difficult for me. Well, I found out during

(01:13:23):
a trip earlier this year to Ireland with my best
friend that we have been planning for legitimately fifteen years.
I do like whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Oh I love whiskey.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Go ahead, and don't get me wrong, there's still some
brands that like give me that weird closed throat. I
don't like this feeling, But overall I like whiskey. Still
not gins, still not wrong, But no whiskeys. I'm cool

(01:13:59):
mixed drinks on the rocks. Okay, that doesn't mean every
brand but Jameson. Jameson makes drinks. Love it. And you
have been talking a long time about a specific whiskey
that I have had trouble finding and new place in

(01:14:21):
la that we've been for two years, which we stayed
inside for a while and slowly been going out, especially
if they have outdoor areas. And there's a wine bar
near us that obviously both serves and sells a lot
of wines. But on the other side of the store

(01:14:42):
they also have is a pretty small store, but for
how small adues, it surprisingly has a lot. On the
other side of the store, opposite to the wine, they
have a lot of different alcohols from across the US
and across the world that you can't as easily get
in a their area or other locations in our specific area.

(01:15:05):
And one of those is Uncle Nearest. So after two
years of two three oh my gosh, i've lost track
your time anyway, two three years of you talking about it,
Uncle Nearest eighteen eighty four on the Rocks one of
the best whiskies I've ever had see. I love it.
I'm excited to try the Sneaky Sneaky and other mixed drinks.

(01:15:27):
I haven't been able to do that because we don't
either buy wine, or we buy beer, or we buy
occasionally hard alcohol like whiskey and vodka, but we don't
buy stuff to mix it with. So we're not we
don't have a good setup for mixed drinks. But Uncle nearest,

(01:15:48):
eighteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Four so good, so good, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
If you have a different a few different versions there.
There was one that was super expensive and I was like,
I can't afford that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah, but the I think eight four is like, because
they the eighteen eighty four is really good. They do
have like the you know, because it's a black label,
but they do have the more expensive, uh nearest, that
is expensive, and I've had it, but I don't buy

(01:16:26):
it regularly.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
The eighteen eighty four is what I buy regularly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
But I understand, go ahead, I'm sorry, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
No, on occasion, is the more expensive worth it? Or
is it just eighteen eighty four is the good?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Like I mean, it's it's gonna be different, right, It's
gonna be different. It's smoother, it's but I mean, in
the grand scheme of things, eighteen eighty four is still
one of the better whiskeys you'll ever put in your mouth.
So it's not like you'll you'll have the other one

(01:16:59):
and be like, oh no, eighteen eighty four is trash.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
I never want to drink it again. I think you could.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
You could drink eighteen eighty four period forever and be
perfectly happy and you would not be wrong. But if
you have like a special occasion or you want to
go real fancy to celebrate something, I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
You could go. You could go real fancy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
It does? But also I'm the only one of my
close friends in which we would celebrate and my partner
that really likes whiskey. So but yeah, no, eighteen eighty four.
Uncle Nearest on the rocks love it. Discovered earlier this

(01:17:47):
year whiskey is fine with me. Jameson has a new orange,
like a Jameson orange, which is so good not only
by itself but also to mix with Limit made and
that's what they were surveying at the Jameson factory and
how I found it. They also have a new addition,

(01:18:10):
black barrel that's like uh aged in oak barrels, which
I generally love anything that is aged in oak or
whiskey barrels, including stouts that are aged in whiskey barrels.
But tonight it is Uncle Nearest found it for the
first time in five years.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Do you remember which of the other ones they had.
Did they have like the was it like one of
the was it the was it?

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
The limited edition? Was the bottle all black?

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Do you mean the label or the glass both?

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Well, the the label is like black and gold. The
glass itself was black.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Oh no, it was just a black label. And they
did not have the blue one either.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I think it's a single barrel or eighteen fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Six Okay, yeah, the single the single barrel. The single
barrel is gonna be different from time to time because
you know, because it's a single barrel, right, so every
barrel is gonna taste a little different. But yeah, okay,
so I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Oh when they have rye, which I uncle narst dry,
which I have not tried.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I'm not a fan of rye, so I haven't tried
that one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Okay, you you you found the good stuff. I'm happy.
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I was like, what what like whiskey? Well, most whiskey
there's still something out there, but.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yeah, yep, I'm glad though. All right, what about you, Victoria?
What you drinking orange juice? Oh? What kind of orange juice? Pupe? Okay,
So I know I always ask weird questions. Pupe no pulp.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
It's simply orange juice, no pulp with pineapple.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Okay, well that's good orange juice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Though, that's good orange juice, not like you drinking tropicicna
reconstituted out the freezer.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
I was like the old the in the freezer, like
the tube of topa and they have to like mash
it into the water and hope.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
That orange juice is built on hopes and dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
It really is. And lots of sugar and lots of sugar.
It's like what flavors that orange juice? Sugar?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
It's like a fixture of jungle juice. Like teenagers just
dump all of the alcohol into it and then the
tropicicana and they're like, what's that? And it's jungle juice.
Don't question what's in it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
But a lot of sprider ginger ale Yep, yep. Well,
I'm drinking garbage tonight. I'm drinking garbage because I'm drinking
a pineapple monster ultra mixed with fancy sparkling water with

(01:21:21):
the san Palegreno momente peach clematized sparkling water, because otherwise
energy drinks are too sweet. For me, and I was
dragging ass and I was gonna I was actually gonna
have and Uncle nerist on the rocks is what I

(01:21:41):
was gonna have. And I was like, if I drink alcohol,
I'm gonna fall asleep halfway through because I've been in
meetings all day and I was bone tired. So that's
what I'm drinking. I'll have real booze next time. I'll
make sure I take a nap beforehand if I need to,

(01:22:03):
and so that I can drink booths and not fall
asleep and not fall asleep. So you know, this has
been good catching up with y'all. So okay, So we
did we Our thought was, since we were coming back

(01:22:25):
off hiatus, is that we would just spend some time
just chit chatting and shooting the ship and catching up.
And I think we've done that. We've been talking for
like an hour and a half, haven't we. It took
us an hour and a half to get through. You
know where we are now and are what we're playing,

(01:22:47):
what we're reading, what we're drinking. So let's let'sten. It
is impressive. It is impressive, very much, oh very much so.
But I think we've done good. I think we've done good.
It's a big week, you know, second week of school.

(01:23:10):
Plus we got the black Ops six early access to
the black Ops six Beta coming on Friday. I'm super
excited for that. I'm super excited for that Black Ops six.
I like, I'm super excited for Black Ops for.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
A number of reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
One because, like the campaign. I can't wait to dig
it to the campaign. I just cannot. I get so
excited just thinking about it. But also, even though historically
I've liked the modern warfare games better, I like the
guns better in Black Ops because I like the skins

(01:23:51):
and stuff better on the guns. I mean, because the
guns themselves are not always terribly different, but the skins
and stuff. I feel like Black Ops has better skins. Yes, yeah, so,
And I'm all about the cosmetics sometimes. That's why Activision
gets all my money and Call of Duty is because

(01:24:12):
operator skins, weapon skins and the like. I'm just prepared.
I'm prepared to give them way too much money for
Black Ops skins.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
I'm I'm hoping for a return of party games like
prop Hunts and Stones and more than just Infected, so
I'm hopeful. Yeah, It's one of the things that trey
Arch does really well. Is a lot of different party
games to sort of break up the monotony of Domination

(01:24:45):
and teen Deathmatch and mm hmm silly games and my
wart simulators.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
I mean, but yes, Antimutelltubbies, they gotta give us good
skins too, since we can't take our skins with I have.
I don't even want to tell you how many skins
like operator skins I have in Modern Warfare three that
I now don't get to take with me. I'm gonna
have to start playing war Zone. Yeah, I'm gonna have

(01:25:13):
to start playing war Zone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Just gonna miss being a whobs.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
But if we play Warzone, we can still be Wubbs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Yeah, but I don't want to play a Warzone.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Me either. But I feel with Wubbs, I was like,
I feel like I need to be able to use
these skins somewhere. Damn it, Jordan, I know you weren't.
You were on a war Zone. I won't say kick,
but you were playing war Zone for a while. Are
you gonna gonna jump into black Ops at all?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I would say kin kick was accurate. I mean played
for a solid seven months where in which every single
night after work, Hey, squad. We're doing this, Oh okay,

(01:26:09):
every single night. There was occasual Friday we would do
something else or Saturday, but no, we were invested. We
were having fun, whether we lost and we were forty
eight or sometimes we got the first so much fun.
No love it, but yeah, once we moved onto something else,

(01:26:31):
we haven't gone back to it. And it's not that
I dislike it. It's just I'm usually not aware of
the games or the updates within Call of Duty, and
when I do hear something, I don't buy it. I

(01:26:53):
have to have someone else say hey, I really want
to play it with see you buy it? Or or
war Zone or sorry not war Zone. There was another
game that my partner bought for me. I'm like, okay,
well you bought it, nay, and I ended up loving it.
It's just I initially don't make that move, but once

(01:27:14):
I do, regardless of the reasoning, I am in it
for months.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
So here's a question. Do you have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Game paths or PlayStation whatever the hell is called?

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I have PlayStation plus. I don't know if I still
have game passed, but we did for a while and
it wouldn't be an issue to get it again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Well, I'm just saying because if you have either of
those things, you should have access to the beta that
starts on Friday. If you don't, let me know, and
I may have a beta call for you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Okay, I'll definitely look you said PlayStation Plus. If I
look it up tonight, I should know if.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Yeah, yeah, because you should.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Yeah, And what's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
The It's Black Op six. It's the Black Op six.
It's the Black Op six beta. Got it? Sorry all
the news I mean, and I'm I see I Call
of Duty is my popcorn game, but it is also
my chill out game. And I know that sounds really

(01:28:35):
weird because we often see people like just raging in
games like Call of Duty, but it calms me down.
So I play it like every night to just kind
of wind down. So I'm happy to play Black Op
six with you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Oh yeah, no, I totally get it. When we were playing,
it was like, let's relax deep bread like war Zone was.
I mean, obviously there was a few stressful moments, but
war Zone was relaxing to us. It's how we talked
about like our day or our week. And yeah, it's

(01:29:17):
just it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Yeah, this is But of course the beta is just
the multiplayer, but it'll give you a good feel for it. It'll
give you a good feel for it. It's not Warzone.
It's just multiplayer well, I mean, which is just team
based instead of one hundred people or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
You got twelve instead of unless you get a ten
by ten and you got twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
But I'm happy to play whenever.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
We'll check it out, also adding it to my list
alongside Star Wars, Outlaws, Played Up, and some books.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
The Monsters We Defy. I love that book so far.
I'm almost done. I only got a couple chapters left.
I just I'm going slow now because I don't want
it to end, because I'm mad that there's no sequel.
She has another book that's coming out or already came out.
It sounds really good, but it's not a sequel to this,
And I want to continue with this story in these

(01:30:22):
characters because it's all about me. Because it's all about me,
all right, anything else we want to throw out there
before we call it. Grace and I play some call
of duty or something, because now that I've had an

(01:30:42):
energy drink at eight o'clock at night, I'm not going
to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
I'm sorry. I have one more thing. Maybe you can
help me settle an argument here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Okay, I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
So we also play a lot of board games, and
one of the new board games we got called Hues
and Cues, and the premise is you go in a
circle and each person changes from being the clue giver
to the guesser, and you have a board that is

(01:31:16):
literally squares of an RGB color picker, so to speak,
and you give a one word clue to begin with,
and then in the second round, as the clue giver,
you can choose whether not to give a clue or
whether to give a clue that is one or two words,

(01:31:39):
And there is some restrictions on the words that you
can give. But the point is when you give a clue,
people are supposed to guess the color that you are imagining.
So this has been a huge discussion amongst my family,
my friends. So I want to ask you, I'm going

(01:31:59):
to stuff a few words, if you could tell me
which color you think of when I say this word, Okay,
I have a few math.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Blue.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Oh I'm playing too, Yeah if you're yeah, yeah, I'm good.
I was just like, all right, I'm listening to Sam.
I's like all into it. Red.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
That was the second color that popped into my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Okay, okay, that's interesting. I'll explain why to say, uh,
science green, green, social studies blue, yellow.

Speaker 8 (01:32:47):
Blue, yellow, English?

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Wow, uh black? So I would say black, yeah, black
and then white were what popped into my mind immediately,
and I was like that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
Those aren't colors really, but yeah, black, are you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Thinking of your master's robe?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
And then the final one art oh orange.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Some very bright color. I can't even when you said it.
Some very bright color popped into my mind and I
don't know what it was, but it might have been
orange or red. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Okay, So the reason I asked when we're playing this
game started a huge debate. I was the one trying
to explain the game, so I was using classes as
school classes as example to try to explain the rules.

(01:34:05):
It seems no matter what everyone agrees, science is green.
I have literally not gotten any other answer. Math has
been split between blue and red. However, if people say red,
they do not think of blue as a secondary color,

(01:34:26):
but if they say blue, they do think of red
as a secondary color. I can't tell you why, but
math is red, and half the people agree. Half the
people don't. I don't know whether there's the bind or
the textbook. I don't know. I don't know, but it
started a huge debate. Social studies was often yellow, English

(01:34:53):
was blue or purple, and art was pink or orange.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
I could see that, yeah, because, like I said, something
very bright popped into my head when you first said it,
and then I lost it, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Was just curious. It started a lot of conversation. It's
a very fun game. It's only like in between fifteen
to twenty dollars, depending which outlet you buy it through.
Pretty quick and easy to learn. But yeah, Hughes and
Cues fun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
I'm gonna have to check that out my dog, you know,
because you know my kid would probably love this. She'll
say everything I say is wrong. But see, there we go,
hughes and c's. I'm right now we're down.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
It also holds a special place in my heart because
me and my partner are super competitive, and the first
time we both had played this game, we tied. So
when you tie, the other players go around giving clues
and you guess and you get points based on proximity

(01:36:12):
to the actual color. And my best friend said Barbie,
and I immediately pushed my partner out of the way
and put my pawn on the color and they were like, okay,
well you immediately went it's the exact color, pink.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Yes, that's the color. Has me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Well, there's there's like three hundred colors on this board,
so it's pink, and we both guess pink. But there's
like various shades that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Are very Barbie think.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Yeah, exactly. So I got it and I beat him,
and I'm very happy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Check this game out. I know I wrote it down
to grab it play with my kid.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Honestly, that board game has started more arguments than Overcooked
in my friend group.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Fun all right, See now I didn't escape without buying something,
all right, So I guess that will bring us to
the end of our episode this week. It's good to

(01:37:40):
be back. It's good talking to y'all again, and so
we'll do this again in two weeks and it'll be
fun and we'll come back and talk about how great
things are going now that the semester is up and running.
That's wishful thinking on my part, But thank y'all so
much for joining me. Like I said, this was this

(01:38:01):
has been an absolute blast, and with that that will
bring us to the end of our episode and until
next time, stay cool, stay safe, wear a damn mask.
We're in the middle of a surge and until next time. Friends,

(01:38:24):
Game on.

Speaker 9 (01:39:04):
Fast needs Boss mastods needs.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Then the.

Speaker 9 (01:39:20):
Beasts gets nests, pagets for the bassas madspend the masque mast.
The next moves man to the best mast name. Excuss

(01:40:25):
ends the sender to engage the Nastasistas. Nests to anything
you need to stags toss Togs explained, Toad em jumentious strangement, being.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Anxious.

Speaker 9 (01:41:10):
Fuss absolutely

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