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January 9, 2025 96 mins
Buckle up, folks! In this episode I'm diving headfirst into the contentious world of the 2024 U.S. presidential election. We’re talking alleged rigging, foreign infiltration, and the media spin that just won’t quit. Letters from cybersecurity experts, bomb threats on election day, and whispered rumors of Kamala Harris being set up to fail—let’s just say this is not your typical civics lesson.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You are listening to the NVS Alien Podcast with your host,
Heather Woodward, an award winning psygig, supernatural author and lover
of all things true crime. On this show, we're going
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(00:24):
and let's get on with the show.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey everyone, this is Heather, and today we are going
to be talking about more election riggery and the ongoing SABA.
That is the air quotes conspiracy. I'm using bunny ears
here because we don't know if it's a conspiracy, but
that's people we're calling like the Blue and Honors the
air quotes conspiracy, that the election was bought and that

(00:55):
it was rigged using operatives from other countries, and that
something should be done about it, not that anything's going
to be done about it. Mars is retrograde and Pluto
is inaquarius. There is a lot of shift and change.
There are a lot of weird things going on. The
United Healthcare CEO just got shot. That was a little weird.

(01:15):
There has been unrest in Georgia, the country, not the state.
There has been a lot of political unrest and a
lot of protesting, and let's not even talk about South Korea, ohmig,
there's so much going on with that. Pluto and Aquarius
really started to pump things up. MSNBC is losing viewers

(01:38):
in rows and people who are going to places like
TikTok and Twitter and Blue Sky. They're relying more on
grassroots people to give them their news and their information.
They don't trust the bigger news agencies because they're bought
and sold. They're told what to say, what not to say.
They're giving a very air quotes balanced narrative. And in

(01:58):
today's day and age, we've already had four years of Trump.
We know what's coming. We know there is a ton
of lies, a ton of bullshit, and we don't want
to hear the news whitewash it. So that's what happens.
You start to move in other directions and people want
that more. Grassroots feel because they don't trust what they
are hearing. I'm not a Trump supporter by any stretch

(02:22):
of the imagination. However, one thing that has been brought
to light through all of the last eight years is
that prior to Trump. People really seem to trust media,
They really seem to trust what was on the page
or content as a whole. And I think he really
showed how media could be skewed, and how media could

(02:45):
be manipulated, and how media could be bought. It also
showed how media downplays things, how media sort of sweeps
things under the rug. And we have basically a man
coming in who's trying to dismantle the government, trying to
dismantle democracy. See we're letting him do it. I have
no idea why people let him run, not once, not twice,

(03:07):
but three times. People know how dangerous he is. He
basically blatantly says it out loud, and yet the media
softens it. Oh, we'll see what happens. This whole laws
middle kind of we need to be nice like bullshit right, No,
I'm tangenting, But it does go into the mechanics of

(03:31):
why there's not more talk about cybersecurity. There's not more
talk about election. We're agree, there's not more talk about
how we are not safe when it comes to data,
when it comes to outcomes with elections, when there are

(03:54):
people that can get in these systems and use them
for what they need need or want the outcome to be,
and that's really dangerous. This podcast is basically going to
be a few weeks of me going through articles, going
through things real time. There's a lot going on, and
I think these things need to be documented. And whether

(04:16):
this podcast ends up in one person's hands or thousands
of people's hands, it doesn't matter. It matters that the
information is out there and it's concise, and it is
at least being documented in some way, shape or form.
So with that, we're on to the next segment. I'll
see you on the flip side. It is seven seven

(04:37):
pm eleven twenty five, twenty twenty four. I have subscribed
to Steven Spoonemor's substack and he is sending all kinds
of information about how he feels the election could have
been stolen or how the other candidate, the one that won,

(04:57):
could have cheated. So this is very interesting information and
I'm going to read some of what he wrote in it.
If you really want to know about cybersecurity issues, I
definitely would suggest that you go ahead and subscribe yourself.
It's Spoonamore at substack dot com. Let's see what does

(05:19):
he have to say with the nearer completion of ballot counting.
I find the results being certified more absurd, not less.
When I wrote my dtw letter, Trump had fifty two
percent of the popular rote and a three point five
percent lead, yet was being declared the winner of seven

(05:41):
out of seven states, all outside the margin for recount,
even the states he trailed in the exit polling. As
of writing this, he has forty nine point eight percent
to Harris's forty eight, and while her margin of winning
in all seven states has narrowed, it remains outside the

(06:04):
margin for recount in all seven. A perfect and bespoke outcome,
perfectly tailored to shut down any substantive legal challenge which
would access the paper ballots underneath. This laughably unlikely outcome
and the numerous other issues have brought a growing number
of IT leaders out to call several dozen additional names,

(06:29):
demanding hand recounts, IT audits, and security breaches in tabulation machines.
Notable among them Jackie Singh and then it's her Blue
Sky social account. I will put a screenshot of this
in the show notes if you care. She worked for

(06:49):
Biden and Harris, and yes, I have now been sent
the sections of miss Harris to nineteen book in which
she herself expresses concern about our election security. Perhaps send
her concerns to her, not me. So the margins of
loss are too close for a recount, but she really

(07:14):
only lost by let's see, one point five percent. This
is fucking ridiculous. It's like it's carefully curated, so it's
just enough to be How do I say this. It's
just enough so that there's a lead, but not enough
so that anything can be done about it, and not

(07:36):
enough to look suspicious. But it's almost too clean. There's
a tick talk that I watched about somebody who is
a data analysis person. He says that data is messy.
People are messy. When the data is too clean, that

(07:58):
means something is off. The point here is that it's
almost too perfect. It's almost too good. The margins are
almost like they've been designed that way. Another thing that
really bothered me, and it's something that's been more mentioned
in this email. He says that Trump was being called

(08:20):
the winder even before we were in the margins and winning.
They just knew he was going to win. And that's
something that threw me off really hard. On election day,
I remember, and I remember talking about it. I was like,
this is like a fever dream. What is going on?
Why are the results coming in so quick? It looked

(08:46):
like a red wave coming through. But now that we're
looking at the actual results, one and a half percent
of a win is not really a win. If more
people had come out and voted, this may have been
a different situation. It's very weird to me how things

(09:08):
were called so quick, and my conspiracy theory brain, I
have been looking too much at CIA documents and mk
ultra stuff and just looking at a lot of declassified
things lately, and so of course my brain goes there.

(09:29):
But I'm like, is this a psyop simulation? Like what's
going on here? Because this doesn't feel real to me.
This doesn't feel like a normal election. And I'm fifty
years old. I've been through a lot of elections in
my lifetime. I've seen some crazy ass things happen. But

(09:50):
this is the first time that I've ever really questioned
an election where I'm like, this is not real. Maybe
it's the fake news thing. Maybe I just don't trust
anything anymore. Maybe the propaganda and the misinformation campaigns have
done their job. Maybe I don't believe in anything anymore.

(10:13):
Maybe it has got me to the place where I
question everything and I don't even know what reality is,
and and I'm in the cognitive dissonance place where I
can't see the forest from the trees anymore. Absolutely could be.
I'm not going to discount that at all. However, this
was different. Even the first time that Trump won. I

(10:35):
stayed up late for that one too, and I remember
being confused, but I don't remember feeling like this is
a different feeling. I don't know how to explain it.
I don't remember feeling this is off. What is going
on here? Something wrong here. I was more surprised that
he got as many votes as he did, but once

(10:59):
we looked at them and they were like, oh, electoral votes,
got it okay, he played the system. Good for him.
I don't know what it is. I wish I could
explain it better. And this is a podcast and I'm
supposed to be eloquent, and it's not happening the way
that I need it to. Because I want to talk
about feelings, and I want to talk about intuition, and

(11:22):
I want to talk about how my body feels right now,
and my body feels confused, my body feels awful, my
body feels like this isn't right. And usually when I
have these feelings, it's because I'm feeling like I'm being
gas lit, and I don't want to say anything stupid

(11:45):
because I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist that
I don't want to see as somebody who's mashtag bluing
on because I read it on Wikipedia and what the fuck?
Half of the shit that they talk about that is
blue and on is not really conspiracy theory. The other
half is there's some crazy ones out there, but a
lot of it isn't. And it's weird how things are

(12:09):
just labeled as conspiracy theory right away, even if they're
still being questioned, and even though they're not unfounded. Like
what I'm trying to say is like, even though there's
no data to support that it's unfounded, it is just

(12:29):
thrown in the conspiracy theory pile, and I'm like, no,
that's not how it works. Just because there's no data
to support it right now doesn't mean that it's unfounded.
It just means that it's not supported at this time.
Until you can classify it as unfounded by these facts,

(12:50):
it is still in the gray area. Pile. But no,
that's not how it works in mass media. It's like
with science and with archaeology. I remember I was almost
going to be an archaeologist and I started to study it,
and one of the things that I found out that

(13:12):
I didn't like and which actually stopped me from being
an archaeologist, is that I found out that pieces of
archaeology like actual things objects in history that don't make
sense because there's a narrative that's running, and then there

(13:35):
are these things that are outside of that narrative, and
instead of talking about those things, they put it in
the nothing pile, like there's a pile of things that
they're like, these don't really match up, and eighty percent
of it does in these twenty percent of things don't,
So we're just going to ignore them and put them
on the shelfs and we're not going to talk about them.
And I'm like, that's not really history. What is that?

(14:00):
I don't know what that is? But why does everything
have to follow the narrative? And That's what I'm feeling
with this. I am feeling like media as a whole
has decided that there is this narrative and if it
doesn't follow that narrative. Then now it's propaganda, it's misinformation,

(14:23):
and it's a conspiracy theory. And you can think Trump
for that. Fake news is a real thing. But I
feel like in the last ten years, the complacency of
major news organizations is fucking ridiculous. There has been a

(14:43):
mass exodus from MSNBCCBS, these bigger news stations because of
the complicity of it. All. Okay, Trump is in office. Now,
he's not even in office yet, but okay, now we're
gonna have to play nice with him. Why why do

(15:03):
we have to play nice? We all know that he's
a thief. We all know that he's sexually assaulted a
thirteen year old girl. We all know that he got
peed on by prostitutes. We all know that he's cheated
on every single one of his wives. We all know
that he was one of Epstein's best friends. We all

(15:25):
know that he was convicted of thirty four felonies. We
all know that he's a shyster. Why not just call
him out for what he is? Why are we softening fascism?
Why are we softening the Christian nationalism agenda? Why he
doesn't do anything above board? So why do we have

(15:48):
to be complicit and follow the rules like first rule
in on tyranny, which is sitting on my desk right
now because I'm reading it, don't obey in advance, and
I feel like me yet is already obeying in advance.
We're already softening the blow. Fuck that. I'm gonna get

(16:08):
off my soapbox now and we'll get back to what
is actually important, which is this information about how Trump
lied and cheated and became president. On November twenty second,
Spoon and Moore ask every elected official who presents you
why bomb threats made against their voting system are not

(16:32):
the top priority of the FPI and President Yeah, I
have the same question. Anyway. He goes on to say
that there may have been people involved that don't even
know that they were involved, and they might be feeling
bad about it, but they don't know where to go.
So he's working with ballot bounty dot org and they
have set up private funding and they have one hundred

(16:55):
k set aside, and according to the ballot Bounty website,
bounty dot com has a one hundred thousand dollars bounty
pull to be used reward individuals for providing any provable
action information of election tempering that took place in the
twenty twenty four federal election. If you saw something, we

(17:18):
want to hear about it. So on this web page
they are talking about the letters sent to Harris, how
Trump seems to be getting immunity for everything, how there's
a lot of corruption and scandals, how foreign actors and

(17:40):
billionaires motimplated our election, and how basically nobody's doing anything
about it. There's been a lot of silence. Tomorrow, November
twenty six, right before Thanksgiving. Strangely enough, Harris and Walts
are said to be having some kind of grassroots zoom

(18:05):
situation where they're going to be addressing they're followers and
talking about what the next steps are. So I'm interested
in that. Mumblings about how Harris might be vying for
governor of California because Newsom will be leaving in twenty

(18:30):
twenty six and that would be a good race for
her to win, and then from there she can move
in to trying again in twenty twenty eight. That way
she would have a jumping off point. Now that would
go into my seven appentacles reading, which it's not over.

(18:52):
She may not be president, but there's something else. So
that falls in line with that, And if you don't
know what I'm talking about, go to part one. Makes sense. Also,
there was an astrologer on TikTok that said, Kamlo's not
gonna win this time, but she can win next time.
Use a peasy lump and squeeze. That might be what

(19:12):
this is about. I'm hoping that maybe she addresses some
of this. I don't know. It seems like nobody wants
to talk about it. I mean, there's been a lot
of oh, bluing on, We're just gonna put it on,
blueing on. It's weird to me because if she does
nothing about this, if she doesn't put her hand in this,

(19:36):
why would I vote for her in twenty twenty eight?
Why would I care if she becomes the governor of California.
I feel as a prosecutor for as many of the
years as she was, hopefully she'll do something about this.
And like this was a syeop and she was paid.
Now there is some kind of conspiracy theory that it

(19:58):
was a simulation. She knew full well that she was
going to lose and she was just supposed to go
for it, and that everyone is accepting that Trump was
going to be in power, but I'm not sure if
that's true because of how shocked he was that he

(20:19):
wasn't running with Biden, and it took a little while
to pivot. I'm not sure, but I'm just giving you
all of the information that I can. In Spooner Moore's
last posts, he does talk about how bullet ballots may
not be the answer, so he says this, I was

(20:41):
also wrong to have used the term bullet ballots in
my DTW letter. I apologize again. The urgency to warn
in cyber is real. He goes on to say, and
I'm moving down sentences, but unfortunately the bullet ballot hypothesis
has caused a lot of discord and distraction. Been trying
to clean that up and posting and now on multiple

(21:05):
radio programs. They may be part of the issue, but
is very clear a very large set of irregularities exists
in this election in the light of my past experiences,
the use of bomb threats against tabulation centers and the
shocking number of states declaring Trump one outside recount levels,

(21:26):
while the down ballot Democrats one, also outside of recount levels,
remains in my view, outside of believability, but appears something
other than bullet ballots is at play. Drop that line
of thinking. The under votes, tabulator code, accesses, reasons for

(21:47):
bombing threads all remain, and my tip line is still
showing more lines of concern to be covered. He wants
to know these things, and I think that they're very
alid things. I like how this guy thinks is suspicious
by nature, of course because of his job, but like,

(22:08):
why is nobody taking this seriously? Why where are the
people that are taking this seriously? Literally? He's doing the work,
He's going on podcasts, He's the one that's talking to
Balla Bouni. He's the one that is making all of
this happen. Where is the backing by the FBI, the government,

(22:28):
Kamala Harris, the Democrats. This is so unbelievable to me
that they know that Trump had access to the stuff
in twenty twenty, and yet they're like, oh, yeah, these
are the results. The people have spoken. Are you sure
the people have spoken? Because at one point seven percent

(22:53):
a win in the popular vote does not mean that
Trump is mandated or that he had a landslide. Anyway,
let's get back to this. He wants to know who
managed the data from the millions of names and street
addresses submitted to Elon's one million dollar lottery. Who did
the analysis of ess and dominion tabulation software and made

(23:17):
vulnerability lists and or wrote exploits against those lists. Who
built the real time turnout estimation app attributed to Elon,
And what was its functionality, what real time voter churnout
access didn't have in what states? And which voter profiling
system was connected with. I'm pretty sure it's an extension

(23:41):
of the lottery built system detailed in Target number one.
If you don't know, he's talking about what Joe Rogan
said about how Elon Munsk had the results. He had
this app, and he had the results four hours before
anyone else. If you were in a tabulation center during

(24:02):
a bomb threat, who stayed behind and who left? And
was there a functionality change in the system before and after?
That's very interesting that he wants to know those things.
These are great, great questions. If you want to know
more about this information, definitely subscribe to Steven Spinmore's substock.

(24:28):
He's laying it all out there, he's given it to
the people. He's doing the Lord's work. Right now. I'm
reading a couple articles here that I want to talk about.
This one is from the Canary. It's a global newspaper,
and it says America needs an official forensic audit into

(24:48):
the US presidential election to save its democracy November nineteenth,
twenty twenty four. It talks about the two letters that
were sent to Harris's camp about how the election be
taken rigged. It also talks about these bomb threats that

(25:13):
originated from Russian domain and it kept a lot of
people out of certain polling areas, and it is just
a really weird story. We'll get into that in just
a minute. But also, and I've mentioned this before, there

(25:33):
was a lot of issue with rejected mail in ballots,
where people were mailing stuff in and then they would
go later and look to see where their vote was
and it would just disappear. Or there were tiktoks about
how that would happen with real time votes, where like

(25:56):
husband and wife would go to the polling site and
then one of their votes would be there, but the
other wouldn't be, and they're like, what the heck, And
then they're looking even later on and they're still not there.
Some of the rejected ballots were just stupid things like

(26:17):
you signed your signature and it's different than how you
signed it on your ID, which I think is so
funny because I signed my signature in different every single
fucking time, and a lot of times I just put
a squiggly line because I have a really long name
and my last name is a pain of the ass

(26:37):
to write out, or I just do my initials. Sometimes.
Even when I was at the polling place, they were
looking at addresses, or your address has changed, will have
to give you provisional ballot because you have to make
sure that this address is correct. Or one person hadn't

(27:01):
moved in like twenty years and they couldn't find her address.
They're like, oh, you don't exist, and she's I vote
every election. Why this year do I not exist? And
they literally had to call people then they couldn't find her,

(27:21):
so she had to do a provisional balot. But on
a mass scale, those kinds of things happening is weird
and unfounded. The other article that I'm looking at is
on substack and it's called Cybersecurity Experts warrant Election was
hacked and it's from Planet Critical Rachel Donald, November nineteenth,

(27:44):
twenty twenty four. So interesting, that both of these came
out on the same day. So she talks about how
the election could have been stolen, and she's quick to
mention that the media is basically saying it's a left
wing conspiracy and that Elon Musk even said that it's

(28:05):
a hoax and that he will bring down the hammer
of justice, whatever that means, because of the Starlink theory,
like media is pretty much debunking and say it doesn't exist. However,
spoon More is asking for information about Starlink and asking

(28:28):
any for information about Elon Musk and his giving people
a million dollars things because it came out that it
clearly wasn't a lottery that he had certain people picked,
and there's something about that could be some sort of breach.
And I don't know the whole situation. I just know

(28:49):
that spoon More is asking for information on that right now,
so he must be devising a theory, and once I
know more about that, I will let you know before
we get into any of these bomb threats. I wanted
to read you the open letter to Vice President Harris

(29:12):
that was signed by a number of computer scientists. It says,
Dear Vice President Harris, we write to alert you to
serious election security breaches that have threatened the security integrity
of the twenty twenty four elections, and to identify ways
to ensure that the will of the voters is reflected

(29:36):
and that voters should have confidence in the result. The
most effective manner of doing so is through targeted recounts
requested by the candidate. In light of the breaches, we
ask that you formerly request to hand recounts in at
least the states of Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. We

(29:57):
have no evidence that the outcomes of the election in
those states were actually compromised as a result of the
security breaches, and we are not suggesting they were, but binding,
risk limiting audits or hand recounts should be routined for
all elections, especially when the stakes are high and the

(30:17):
results are close. We believe that under the current circumstances,
when massive software breaches are known and documented, recounts are
necessary and appropriate to remove all potential doubt and to
set an example for security best practices in all elections.
In twenty twenty two, records, video camera footage, and deposition

(30:41):
testimony produced in a several case in Georgia disclosed that
its voting system used statewide had been breached over multiple
days by operatives hired by attorneys for Donald Trump. The
evidence showed that the operatives made copies of the software

(31:04):
that runs all of the equipment in Georgia and certain
other states and shared it with other Trump allies and operatives.
Subsequent court filings and public records requests revealed that the
breaches in Georgia were part of a larger effort to
take copies of voting systems software from systems in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Colorado,

(31:28):
and Arizona, and to share the software in the operatives network.
According to testimony and declarations by some of the technicians
who have obtained copies of the software, they have had
access for more than three years to the software for
the central servers, tabulators, and highly restricted election databases of

(31:53):
both election systems and softwares. ESS and Domain voting systems,
the two largest voting system vendors constituting the most severe
election security breach publicly known, combine their equipment counts nearly
seventy percent of all votes nationwide. Ninety six percent of

(32:18):
Arizona voters used Dominion and EESNS equipment one hundred percent
of Georgia voters vote on dominion machines, ninety eight percent
of Nevada votes on dominion voting machines, and the remainder
uses ens. Sixty nine percent of Michigan voter ballots are

(32:41):
counted on dominion or EESNS equipment. Eighty nine percent of
Pennsylvania voter ballots are counted on dominion or NS equipment.
E S and S counts ninety two percent of North
Carolina ballots, and etherns or dominion counts ninety seven percent

(33:04):
of Wisconsin votes. Possessing copies of the voting system software
enables bad actors to install it on electronic devices and
to create their own working replicas of the voting systems,
probe them, and develop exploits. Skilled adversaries can decompile the
software to get a version of the source code, study

(33:27):
it for the vulnerabilities, and could even develop malware designed
to be installed with minimal physical access to the voting
equipment by unskilled accomplices to manipulate the vote counts. A
tax could also be launched by compromising the vendors responsible
for programming systems before elections, enabling large skill distribution of

(33:54):
the malware in December twenty twenty two and again in
twenty twenty three. Many of us, concerned by the security
risk posed by these breaches, wrote to the Attorney General,
FBI director, and Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security Agency is
SA Director, outlining the security concerns and urging an investigation.

(34:19):
Though there have been limited localized investigation, there was no
evidence of a federal investigation to determine what was done
with the misappropriated voting software. Other relevant parties have pointed
to the serious risk posed by the misappropriation of the
voting software. Before it was known that partisan operatives had

(34:42):
taken the software. Dominion Voting System objected veheminently to providing
its software to the same partisan actors who ultimately got
copies through voting system breaches, stating that to give it
software to biased actors would cause irreparable damage to the
election security interests of the country. Before the breaches in

(35:06):
Georgia had been confirmed, the Georgia's Secretary of State's chief
information officer testified that having copies of the software would
provide a roadmap to the ways the systems could be accessed.
The Georgia Attorney General opposed providing copies of the software
to lawyers for the Trump campaign in a late twenty

(35:29):
twenty election challenge, arguing that the images of the voting
system would provide the keys to the software kingdom. Notably,
US elections are potentially resilient because there are paper ballots
recording the voter's intent in most states, meaning that even
if the voting system is at risk, the will of

(35:50):
the voters can be determined reliably by recounting the paper
ballots by hand, although we are aware that not all
paper ballots are verified by the voter and not all
states take adequate care to protect the ballot. Of Chain
of custody audits will be conducted in some of the
most scrutinized states, but in key states they will not

(36:11):
be conducted in a timely way that can reveal any
concerns with the voters counts. In addition, in most states,
the audits are insufficiently rigorous to ensure any potential errors
in the tabulations will be caught and corrected, and they
cannot be considered a safeguard against the security breaches that
have occurred. Specifically, Georgia's audits are non bining and Michigan, Nevada,

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and Wisconsin laws do not provide that the audit be
conducted before certification. Therefore, it would be impossible to know
for these critical states if the audits uncovered errors or
miscalculations before the state deadlines to seek recounts. Among swim states,
only Arizona's audit law ensures that if enough discrepancies are identified,

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the audit handcount will be expanded to correct a potentially
incorrect result. In other words, aside from Arizona, in contested states,
there is no illegal mechanism for the audit to correct
the outcome, no matter how much error the audit covers.
Given these facts, the only guarantee for rigorous, effective audits

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of the vote in the swing states will be through
candidate requested statewide hand recounts. The facts around the voting
system breaches are not disputed. It is well document that
there were severe, multiple voting security breaches before the twenty
twenty four election. To ensure that voters have the confidence

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that the breaches insecurity did not taint the results of
the twenty twenty four election, we recommend pursuing hand recounts
in at minimum Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania as they
will provide insufficient safeguards against threats posed by the breaches
of the elections software and will not provide important information

(38:06):
in a timely way. Thank you for your time and
consideration of this important matter. And the people that are
written here are Duncan Buell, PhD, David Jefferson, PhD, Susan GREENHOWG,
Chris Klaus, William, John Malik, Marilyn Marx, Peter G. Newman, PhD.

(38:32):
John E. Savage. They are all names in the super
security field. And there was a TikToker who was actually
in academia that wrote all of these people to find
out if this letter is accurate and if it was

(38:55):
actually sent out, and she had a handful of these
people reach out to her and say, yes, we did
send it. So this was sent to Harris and it
has been documented that she received it. So there you
have it. There is some pretty scary things in this

(39:19):
letter and that's why I read it. And if you
want to see more information, I will put this in
the show notes and you can print it out because
there are tons of notes here of like things. You
can read papers and articles. This letter is jam packed

(39:43):
full of facts. They're not just saying these things, they
are documenting it and then giving references for everything that
they're saying in this letter. It is scary af what
it is here. It gives me no doubt that Trump

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did something. He's had a lot of years to figure
it out. What I got from this and see, I
don't want to break this down too much because I
don't know enough about this kind of software, but the
gist of it, of what I'm getting here is that
basically Trump people got copies of it, maybe not the

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full copies, but they got copies of it, and all
you would need to do is look at it to
figure it out. And once they figure it out, then
they could put in changes without people really noticing. That's
very interesting because I believe it was Spoon and More

(40:51):
that said in an interview that all you would have
to do is change one out of ten votes. That's it.
So not a lot. And from what I'm reading here
and what I'm digesting from it, operative hired by attorneys
for Donald Trump got copies of the software from Georgia

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and shared it. So who's to say that they don't
have copies that they have changed? And I don't know
these bomb threat might play into this. But knowing this
and knowing that he probably has copies of the software,
it's boggling my mind why he was allowed to run

(41:40):
for president in the first place. Anyway. So there's an
article from Time says what to know about the Russian
linked bomb threats and battleground states on election Day. The
FBI said in a statement it was aware of the threats,
many of which which originated from Russian email domains, but

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the agency also downplayed their risk. None of the threats
have been determined to be credible thus far, the statement said.
But a polling place in Westchester, Pennsylvania, was evacuated because
of the threat. The center was searched by dogs, and
the people that were going to vote in those two
polling stations were actually sent to other polling places, and

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then their voting hours were extended to accommodate the extra people. Also,
Pennsylvania granted a motion to extend voting in clear Field County,
north of Pittsburgh after a bomb threat targeted an administrative
building where votes were being counted. In Georgia, voting location

(42:52):
hours were extended because of these bomb threats, but nothing
happened beyond that, and it looks like Brad Raffinsburger said
to see and n we identify the source that it
was from Russia. In Dakop County, five polling places were
suspended for a little while because of these bomb threats,

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but no bombs were found and then people were able
to re enter the building. In Fulton County, out of
one hundred and seventy seven polling places, thirty two had
bomb threats and five of them required evacuation their hours
were extended. Also in Wisconsin and Michigan, there were bomb

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threats in several locations in Arizona for locations in Navajo County.
In Navajo County, they said that the threats came from
an email with a Russian domain and the motive looked
like to ensue chaos. At the end of this article,

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it says Kate Calmley, senior advisor to the Director of
the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure A Security Agency, said that the
agency is not tracking any significant incident with national level
impact to elections at the moment, but warned that the
foreign adversaries may continue malign influence operations in the coming days.

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So basically they're like, Eh, it's not a big deal
to me. This seems sus. This seems like something we
should probably be looking at. And why are there certain
areas being targeted? I think there's a lot of downplaying
here to keep things at bay. But there's no fucking

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way that there's bomb threads in all of these areas.
There's a lot of them. I was under the impression
that there's only a couple, but this is a lot here.
This seems very targeted to me, and maybe again with
my consiracy theory brain, but like the fact that they're
like eh about it, sus, just because it's not out

(45:11):
in the public, and just because we don't see something happening.
I would imagine that hopefully someone in the government is
worried about it, but I don't think it's Kamala Harris.
And it's really weird to me because she writes about

(45:31):
cybersecurity in her book. She knows these kinds of things happened,
and yet she's not asking for a recount. It is
now the twenty fifth, a lot of the deadlines in
case states have already come and gone. And also, like

(45:54):
Spoonermore said, some of these margins are so insignificant that
they're not. I'm going to warrant or reaccount. In some
states it has to be under point five percent in
order to get a recount, So we're in this weird
margin where it's too high for most, too little for some.
I got a little bit more information on Musk's role

(46:16):
in all of this. This is a letter from Stephen
spoon More on November fifth, two thousand and twenty four,
and this is also circulating through the Internet, but spoon
Moore posted himself on substack just to let people know
that he sent it, and it says duty to warn

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letter to VP Harris R Election twenty twenty four. Dear
Madam Vice President, this is my second duty to warn
letter regarding how professionally, I've worked as a CEO or
CTO at seven high technology firms, including two which specialize
in hacking and counterhacking operations. My clients have included numerous governments,

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DoD DHS, Department of State, F one hundred financials, and
F five hundred industrials. I am a lifelong Republican who
has long play service and participatory democracy over party in government.
I have twice been invited to SOCOM to give lectures
on electronic warfares and techniques to find terrorists money laundering,

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and gave a keynote speech of the National counter Intel
Summit on this same topic. I served as an after
action reviewer of communication and data failures on nine to
eleven under the direction of Jim Bullsey and FDNY Commissioner Scopetta,
and later co wrote multi Hacking risk Analysis of smart

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grade technologies for the Obama administration. You should reverse your concession,
call for both a full investigation of a criminal activity
and demand hand recounts in all seven swing states. In
my professional view, there are multiple and extremely clear indications

(48:09):
the president vote was wilfully compromised. He wrote this in big, bold,
fucking letters. I wholly agree with the public letter of
Duncan Buell at All of November thirteenth, stating they believe
there's a possibility of hacking and calling for hand recounts.
This clear call to action is commendable, but its cautious

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tone maybe lie the severity of what I believe has happened.
In my view, it is a near certainty the results
have been changed at a scale which reverse the US
presidential election. They imply there is a chance a hand
recount will show you one more votes. I am stating

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a hand recount will most likely show you did win.
Both letters call on you to act. In my view,
a capable and skilled series of exploits, electronic tools and
hacks were used to change the presidential vote in all
seven swing states. These activities have reversed the outcomes in

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at least Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin. I will
lay out the basics of the attack, starting with the
unusual elements within the results. I will then outline two
processes which could have been followed to insert these false
results into the system. Finally, I will outline how I

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would recommend investigating unusual elements within the results. The results
of the attack are improbable in the extreme and well
tailored to the sole benefit of your opponent. Approximately six
hundred thousand votes are for Donald Trump, but with no
down ballot choices. These are either inserted bullet ballots for
the presidential race or manipulated data fields surgically added to

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the totals in limited jurisdictions and within only the seven
swing states. This historically unprecedent set of numbers found in
the twenty twenty four states is absence in every other state.
In AZMI, n C, and WI. I'm reading a verbatim here,
so it says in Azmi, n C, and WI, the

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effect of these drop off votes reverse the voter's will,
and even more improbably always pushes the winning margin beyond
the mandatory recount numbers. It is a result to perfect
for belief. It is a bespoke and programmed outcome. In
other states, including PA and ENV, removing these strange and

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bespoke added votes, it appears Donald Trapp may have won
the cast votes, but within a margin which would force
recounts raise his totals to avoid any scrutiny during mandatory recout,
result which would have slowed his claim on the presidency.
In GA and FL, the same pattern exists, with unclear

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impact on the results. This attack is not technically difficult.
It is modest in scale. It would require modest and
common computer programming skills, access to ten to one hundred
tabulators or to the handful of facilities programming them in advance,
a credible database of over forty ideas of non voters

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around which to create false ballots, perhaps as few as one,
but more likely three to five human program managers, access
to e ballbook data during the election to determine who
had not voted, possibly human access to some tabulators during counting.

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If I was asked to lead this hack, I would
expect to have a core team of six to ten
people and operating costs under ten million, with a timeline
of three to twelve months. The tell a historically absurd
number of Trump only bullet ballots or under vote ballots.
There are always a handful of voters who cast a
vote in one race which they care about and do

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not make other selections in the ballot. These are called
bullet ballots in presidential races. This is nineteen eighty. These
bullet ballots really count for more than one percent of
the total votes, including in mister Trump's winning two thousand
election and losing to twenty election, and when they do

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it warrants further investigation. In twenty twenty five, in the
forty three non swing states, bullet ballots make up a
nominal less than one in the seven swing states. The
numbers are so high to be unbelievable, unprecedented and demanding
a further investigation. Here is analysis from totals as of

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November twelve. Here are the unprecedented results of drop offs
in the two Western swing states. E one twenty three
k plus seven point two percent plus of Trump's total vote,
enough to reverse the outcome Envy forty three k plus
five point five percent plus of Trump's total vote, enough

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to exceed recount threshold. It is my belief these two
states have illegally added votes. For comparison, examined Trump's twenty
twenty four results in three states which border A Z
and Envy. They have egally passionate Trump supporters, but have
the normal levels of drop off or bullet ballots. I

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D less than two k point oh three percent of
Trump's total, o R less than four k point oh
five percent of Trump's total UT less than one k
point oh one percent of Trump's total. In the case
of Idaho and Utah, Miss Trump was a runaway winner
and had no need to add votes. In the case
of Oregon, Miss Harris was a runaway winner and adding

(54:07):
votes to Trump's total would add risk without adding value.
The same pattern of large numbers of drop off votes
or bullet ballots exists in the totals of MI, NCPA,
and WI. North Carolina is the most extreme. The public
results indicate over three fifty k voters cast a ballot

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for Trump and no other race, making it over eleven
percent of Trump voters in NC dropped off votes or
bullet ballots hack part one, creating the pull of bullet
There are two possible methods to execute this attack. The
simple version would only manipulate electronic totals and hand counting.

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The target precincts would discover this. The second involved E
pullbook hacking and introducing bullet ballots. This would add the
need to compare the e pullbook timestamps to find possible
bad actors or other sources for these anomalist posts. When
mister Musk announced his one million lottery for people to

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go online and sign a pledge to vote for Trump,
I became personally suspicious of why such a promotion would
be done. I signed up to see what information he
wanted and what the pledge actually stated. He did not
want to know people's socials or send them text. To
sign up, you had to provide your street address. That

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was all they cared about. Once they had the people's
names and street address, this would allow for building a
pool of ghost voters who could logically be marked for
fake ballots structured in a manner which matched a E
pull book and precinct data. You, as member of law enforcement,

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understand criminals needs certain preconditions to act. A database of
pledged supporters with street addresses is required for this hack.
Law enforcement should immediately find the team of programmers who
pulled the lottery data capture. They will find These programmers
immediately parse the data into a system based on voting precincts,

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and created macros to constantly update the pledge list of
who had cast a vote and who had not. The
programmers likely did not know what they were working on,
a system to be used to still the election. When
confronted with the fact, law enforcement would likely gain cooperating witnesses.

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Muck's team used this system to build a list of
voters pledged to vote for Trump. This could also be
used to make a ghost ballot voter list. E pullbook
data is nearly always linked to the Internet, and in
many jurisdictions, this link was being made in real time
via mister Musk, Starlink, or any available wireless network throughout

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the day. Must team could compare existing turn models to
likely outcomes based on well established voter profile databases versus
the actual voter turnout coming in from the E poll books.
They would have been able to have a very good
estimation in the closing hours of polls how many votes
short Trump would likely be. At the tabulation level, they

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would also have exact lists of the pledged voters for
Trump and would know who had not shown up. The
pledge voters who did not vote became the bullet ballots.
With any network connection to the e poll books or
via other compromised connectivity, they could be marked as voted.

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Part two, matching the tabulation to the e poll books.
The exact number of added voters to the e poll
books as having voted would have to match the tabulation process.
This attack could have been done at least two different ways.
The easiest method to execute three to one. The easiest
method to execute phase two is also the easiest to

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discover by hand recount. In a few jurisdictions where the
tabulators either had network connectivity approved or otherwise, or a
person on the team had physical access to the tabulation machine,
the Trump votes that were added to the E pull
books we need to be added to the tabulators, at
which point the e poll books and the tabulation totals

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would match. Having digitally stuffed with demographically credible voters for
a chop, but there will be no paper ballots for
these votes. A hand recount will quickly discover the fraud.
As I write this letter, several hundred people are self
organizing on Reddit and other forums. They include data scientist, statisteticians,

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and legal experts. They are examining the pre stick level
data of every single state, and by Monday, these teams
will have lists of many precincts where these historically unprecedented
trump ballots occur. The highest likelihood is that these ballots
don't actually exist. Those voters were electronically created by having
paper would be easily proven with a hand recount. A

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second possibility involves the same compromise as described above, but
is then combined with human ballot stuffing or ballot substitution
tabulation to match the e public numbers. This possibility is
raised as it appears these historically unprecedented bullet ballots fall
heavily in a few counties. Maricopa County a Z seems

(59:38):
to be the source of the vast majority, perhaps nearly all,
of the AZ bullet ballot voters for Trump. If these
ballots were introduced, it will require co conspirators working inside
the tabulation center. I appreciate that many people, even sophisticated
people outside this field, think this task is an impossible task.

(59:59):
It is not. Just eight weeks ago, the world watched
a vastly larger and more complicated one. Unknown hackers intercepted
over three thousand communication devices over twenty five months, destined
for use by Hamas across the entire Middle East. The
devices all had additional software, hardware, and explosives inserted. The

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devices were then delivered to use function normally for months
until the hackers triggered the inserted series of exploits and explosions.
This hack, the entire world witnessed, was orders of magnitude
more complicated than introducing Trump bullet ballots into at most
one hundred tabulation locations. I have personally managed full year

(01:00:44):
long operations in which hundreds of credit card point of
cell devices were rebuilt with added hardware and software and
inserted in order to discover fraudsters and money laundry. No
one knew we were there. The users never were aware.
The device did their normal job processing credit cards for merchants,
while they also did a hacked job and helped my

(01:01:07):
team and I route out criminals. The access, technical difficulty,
and scale of the election hack I am describing is
less than either of these, but the effect is vastly greater,
and the FBI has excellent people who could address this
very quickly. Lastly, this hack methodology may or might not

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have some correlation with the series of bomb threats called
in by Russian affiliate assets. The use of distraction or
diversion of this kind is common. My first thought was,
and my thinking remains, these bomb threats were called into
tabulation centers and precincts where the hackers had already planned

(01:01:49):
to conduct ghost bullet ballot introductions. I believe they wanted
a destruction in the chain of custody so lawyers could
claim after the hacking events that the chain of custody
on the ballots was flawed. The creation of the false
argument of a broken custody chain would be used as
a pretext to prevent hand counting, as hand counting would

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not match the Trump favorable result. However, by a reverse
of the logic, any jurisdiction which was subject to a
bomb threat was forced to break standard operating procedure. This
alone should be grounds for you to ask for a
hand recount. Lastly, I have been advised by an attorney

(01:02:32):
that Arizona and Georgia have mechanisms in place for members
of the public to demand a recount. But only you
have the ability to demand to recount across all the
jurisdictions of concern. A final note, this is principally a
duty to warn letter. It is also a fulfillment of
my constitutional oath of office. As possibly the lowest level

(01:02:55):
sworn office of public trusts in America. I was pointed
by my township just as local parks commissioner. I am
the public appointment to the Mount Nitney Conservancy, a natural reserve.
I have spent the last four years variously overseeing how
public funds are spent on sports field, kids playgrounds, hiking
trails and bike paths. To do this, I must make

(01:03:17):
annual conflict and financial disclosures, and I must swear nearly
the same oath you did. I am under the sworn
obligation defend our nation against all enemies, born and domestic,
which I am honored to do. I will continue to
investigate with a growing group of volunteers. We are also
planning to offer rewards for information, but our efforts to

(01:03:37):
preserve the integrity of this election cannot take this to completion.
You and only you can call for a full hand
recount and engage the best public resources at your disposal.
I can't. This is all I can do. Let me
know how I can help, Sincerely, Stephen R. Spoon More.

(01:04:00):
He also seed this to all the state governors of
all the swing states. This is some crazy shit right here.
After reading just these two letters, I do not know
why nobody is taking this seriously. Democrats are just sitting
on their hands right now. Trump is acting like nothing happened.

(01:04:23):
And it's so interesting too, because he didn't say, oh,
the election is rigged. Nothing. He was just quite as
a mouse, just quiet, just pretending like nothing happened. And
then he's talking about bipartisanship, which is like, when the
fuck ever has Trump been about bipartisanship? Never is the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
And that's one of the pieces that I just want
us to please take away that our fight for freedom
and for opportunity and for the promise of America. It included,
for example, nearly almost four first time contributors to our
campaign because of the work you did of helping people
know that they can be engaged and that they're not outside,

(01:05:10):
that they're inside, that we're all in this together, and
that work continues. The work must continues of reminding ourselves
that we have an ability to stay engaged in a
way that will make a difference. The work that you
all did, it's going to have lasting effect. Again, I'll say,

(01:05:32):
you know, the election didn't turn out like we wanted
it to, certainly not as we plan for it too,
but understand that the work we put into it was
about empowering people. That's the spirit with work we did.
Our spirit and our work was about saying that it
is a strength that we each have to lift people

(01:05:52):
up as opposed to beating people down. It is a
strength we have that has lasting effect. All that work
that you did that was about engaging with other people,
engaging with perfect strangers and in their face seeing a neighbor.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
That has lasting effect.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
It reminds people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
That there are leaders like you who care.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
And will bring us together. And you know, sometimes in
the darkest moments, people lose faith in that are there
people out there that feel that way? And you reminded
people that yes, there are and there are a lot
of us, and that strength cannot be taken from us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
That is our strength.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
It cannot be taken from us. So listen. As I
said the day after the election, I still strongly believe
the light of America's promise will burn bright as long
as we never give up and we keep fighting. And
the fight that fueled our campaign, a fight for freedom

(01:06:59):
and opportunity that did not end on November fifth, A
fight for the dignity of all people that did not
end on November fifth. A fight for the future, a
future in which all people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Receive the promise of America.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
No, a fight that is about a fight for the
ideals of our nation, the ideals that reflect the promise
of America.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
That fight's not over. So look, we still have a
lot to fight for, Okay. A future where every American can.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Pursue their dreams, ambitions, and aspirations. Where the women of
America have a right to make decisions about their own body,
not their government telling them what to do or fight
for the rule of law, for freedom for all, equal justice,
the sacred principle that everyone, no matter where they start out,

(01:07:54):
has certain fundamental rights and freedoms that must be upheld.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Over that fights still.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
In us, and it burns strong, and I know this
is an uncertain time. I'm clear eyt about that. I
know you're clear eyed about it. And it feels heavy,
and I just have to remind you, don't you ever
let anybody take your power from you. You have the

(01:08:23):
same power that you did before November fifth, and you
have the same purpose that you did, and you have
the same ability to engage and inspire. So don't ever
let anybody or any circumstance take your power from you. Look,

(01:08:46):
this mission that we have, it takes hard work that
as you've heard me say many times, we like hard work.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Hard work is good work, hard work can be joyful work.
And in doing our work, we will remain committed and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Intentional about building community, building coalitions, reminding people that we
all have so much more in common than what separates us.
We will be armed with the faith and the fuel
that tells us what is possible and then drives us
to achieve it. So let's continue to organize and mobilize

(01:09:29):
and stay engaged.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Okay, It is eleven fifty nine on November twenty sixth, today,
Harrisimald did a grassroots leeting. It was like a zoom
kind of thing where their supporters came to basically hear
what they had to say, and people were like, Oh,

(01:09:53):
she's going to explain something or she's going to give
some kind of like information, and people were hoping she
would talk about a retail but that didn't happen. So
I have a theory about this, but I don't want
to be like, what's the word bitter? Before this, I

(01:10:14):
played a clip so you could hear basically what she said.
And afterwards I watched Loti talks to see people's response,
and people like, yeah, it was sad to see her.
She looks a little defeated. Still, they talked about never
give up the fight basically keep moving forward with that.

(01:10:36):
Never give up the fight, don't let people take your
power away. And I think that's a powerful message, especially
from a woman, because like, we get our power taken
away a lot, and we either choose to accept that
or we don't. It's all depends on how we react
to it and how we perceive it. And some people
become complicit and some people fight and they say, yeah, you
can really take my power. Try bitch. That's the whole

(01:10:58):
dark feminine, the rise the dark feminine, which I think
is happening right now. I think it will be happening
as more oh this bullshit happens with Trump, the more
we're gonna see the rise of the dark feminine. So
watch out. You think we were a bunch of bitches
the first time around, it's gonna get worse. One thing
I noticed about this round, which is a little different,

(01:11:20):
is that before we were shocked and odd. We're watching
the news because we're like, oh my god, we can't
believe this guy is doing it. And now this time around,
people are more like, we already know what he's going
to do because this looks really familiar, because oh, yeah,
he's already did this before. Why are you acting like

(01:11:42):
this is a new thing, Democrats? Why are we pretending
like this is the first time or that we don't
know what he's going to do. There's this level of
the patterns repeating and we've already done it, and why
are we doing this again. I'm not sure what the
correct term for that is, but it's it's not complicity.
It's the opposite of that. It's not doing it. I'm

(01:12:04):
older I'm wiser. I have my pink pussy hat. I
know how to do this now. I got my walking shoes,
I know how to protest. I have all of my
leader's phone numbers still in my phone, so I hope
you calling. I know where to get the scripts. I
know how to do this, and this motherfucker is going down.

(01:12:28):
It's just a whole other. Yeah, we don't need your
stupid complicit rhetoric MSNBC. We don't need to be budding
up to the fascist right. We don't need softer, more
balanced articles. Feel like this whole grassroots fight for your rights,

(01:12:50):
don't let me be take your power from Harris and
Waltz is like three weeks too late, Like why are
we talking about it now? Apparently in the comments everyone
was like recount, forensic recount, hand recount, forensic analysis. People
were saying it over and over and over again, what

(01:13:12):
are you going to do about it? And none of
those things were addressed, nor did most people think that
it would. People thought that it was just going to
be a song going to dance, which is pretty much
what it was. It was just a lot of rhetoric.
A lot of people were talking about how it was
kind of a bittersweet moment because they really wanted her

(01:13:33):
to win. That sadness was being transmuted in a way,
and it was being addressed, but again being addressed like
three weeks too late, and it was basically just to
calm down, everything's going to be okay, we can get
through this fight. Don't give away your power. Great, you

(01:13:55):
can put your tin phone head on now. But here's
where the bitterness, an the jadedness for me comes in.
During the campaign, she was getting tons and tons of money,
because it was over one billion dollars they got within
four months, and after the election campaign funds just dropped

(01:14:16):
for them. They've been sending out these letters that people
are getting about this is how many donations we need,
the two hundred and thirty six, the different numbers, and
I talked about that already. But they're not hitting their
marks anymore. And if you look at their graph, they
went from high having these really huge supportive donations to

(01:14:40):
having it just about nothing. But what they're not understanding
is that people want to recount. People want them to
take that seriously, and they're not, and they're not saying
anything about it. They're just ignoring it and so I
feel like this little air quotes grassroots meeting was not

(01:15:01):
to fix the damage. It was more to get people
rolled up again so the donations would go up again,
so that people would feel that sense of hope. That's
my conspiracy, allegedly, and that's where I feel like it's going.
There was no mention of whether or not she was

(01:15:24):
gonna work for governor. There was no mention of what
Waltz was doing. There was no mention of twenty twenty
eight candidacy, there was no mention of future events, there
was no mention of a recount. It was all pretty
above board. But yeah, but the music told a story.
People are talking about how maybe she couldn't say it,

(01:15:46):
but the music was saying it. And I'm like, I
don't think that. I think people are just reading too
much into things because we for some reason think that
the Democrats are actually gonna get off the rust and
do something, or that there's something going on behind closed doors.
More and more cybersecurity people are coming out and saying,
there's something fucking wrong with this. Why is anybody looking

(01:16:08):
at this? And that's what makes me think that nothing's
going on, because the very people that should know what's
going on. Don't know what's going on, and until those
people know, then nothing is happening. I really feel like
if Harris really did care about her people, she would

(01:16:29):
say something about it. Anyway, another person has come out.
This person is really important. They've come out and said
that a recount needs to happen. So we'll get more
into that later and I will read the letter and
what happens with that. It is eight thirty three on

(01:16:54):
number twenty seventh, and I am looking at this article
from You Say Today. It says Kamala Harris advisors internal
polling never showed a VP ahead. This is from a
podcast that came out a few days ago. A senior
advisor to Vice President Kamala harris presidential campaign said their

(01:17:20):
own internal polling never showed her leading President elect Donald Trump,
and they were surprised when people polls put her head
we were behind. I think it would surprise people because
there were these public polls that came out in late
September early October showing with leeds that we never saw.

(01:17:44):
Senior campaign advisor David I think it's p l o
U said on the politics podcast pod Save America that
air Tuesday this got me thinking. They got me thinking
a lot. It's like they knew they were going to lose.
They knew that they were behind, so why did they

(01:18:06):
push harder. This also makes me believe that there will
never be a recount because they already decided that they
were going to lose. What's the recount for. If Harris
already thought she was going to lose and she lost,
then what was the point? What was the point of
all of this? And in part one of this podcast,

(01:18:29):
I had to talk about how once Mercury went into retrograde,
that's some things were going to come to light. In
my first reading in July for the election, I got
the moon and I talked about shenanigans and things going
on behind the scenes. Things will have to come to light.

(01:18:50):
And it's interesting because we're in Mercury retrograde and Sagittarius.
Mercury is about communication, It's about how things are communicating.
Mercury is also attached to gemin and I, which both
Harris and Trump have prominent Gemito replacements. I thought that

(01:19:15):
maybe during this time there was going to be some
kind of information that changes perspective and put things to light.
I thought that it was going to be on the
Trump side. Something big was going to come out. I
don't know he cheated, because I still think he cheated.

(01:19:36):
But now my conspiracy brain is going into a different place.
I'm gonna put on my tinfloil hat now and talk
about some things that are going on in my head
because I saw the clip on TikTok first, and then
I saw some things it said it was propaganda. It's
an actual podcast, so why are they saying it's propaganda?

(01:19:59):
And I waited until saw it in writing on a
major newspaper to make sure that I had the right information.
Here's my conspiracy allegedly. I had to go back to
my original blog post with the original tarot card pools.
And this is prior to Harris being in campaign and

(01:20:23):
the moon was around Trump. That's Shenanigan's That is thing
happening behind the scenes. That's also lying and cheating. It's
like the Devil in that it can be lying, cheating, stealing.
The Devil is more addiction based. It's more sex addiction, lying,

(01:20:43):
having more than one partner. It's more about the physical
aspect of it, where the Moon is more about words, communication,
anything having to do with computers, anything having to do
with internet, anything having to do with what mercury is about.
Interestingly enough, so still think there's some cheating happening, and

(01:21:10):
I think that there's other people involved. I really do
believe that this election was rigged. However, there's a part
of me that thinks that maybe Harris knew about it,
or that Harris was like escapegoat, where she came in

(01:21:32):
knowing full well that she wasn't going to win, and
she knew full well that she was filling a seat
that she knew was never going to happen, and she
knew that charm probably was going to cheat, but she

(01:21:56):
was promised something. And in my second pull of the cards,
I got the seven of Pentacles with her, which, if
you go back to my first podcast, I stated, and
I've said this a few times, and I keep going
back to it because intutably my brain is like, there's
the answer right there. And I said, it's because it's

(01:22:16):
not finished yet. She may not become president, but she's
not finished. I feel like the grassroots zoom call that
she had a couple of days ago, I feel like
she's laying the foundation for something else, and she's saying

(01:22:37):
don't stop the fight, don't let go of things, you
still have your power, that kind of thing. But I
really feel like she's laying in the foundation. She's strategically
appealing to her base for whatever comes next, because there
is a next piece already in play. I truly believe

(01:22:58):
she can't stay at to him. I truly believe she
can't stand who he is and what he's about because
that Gemini energy. They both have Gemini energy, and it's
like a mirror. It's like he's all the negative, dark
sides of her. They that she can't stand. However, and
this is just my opinion, and again this is my

(01:23:20):
conspiracy allegedly. I feel like from the cards that I
pulled on her and just readings that I have seen
of her with her chart, she is the kind of
woman who would be like and most Geminis are like this.
How is this going to affect me? What a What
do I get from it? So, if they had promised

(01:23:42):
her something, I need you to be the stand in
and we know you're not going to win, but I
need you to be the scapegoat. And if you do this,
then we'll give you this other thing. All you have
to do is just play the game for four months
and then be okay with whatever the outcome is and

(01:24:05):
walk away. I don't know. I could see her doing
something like that. If the price was right. She would
put aside the prosecutor and be like, I'll deal with
that later. First, I'm going to get what I want,
and then after I get what I want, then I'll
figure out if I want to fight for it or not.
And in the meantime, we'll just let somebody else deal

(01:24:25):
with him. Jump. Because I don't really think she's going
to do anything about it. The idea of a recount
is probably ridiculous at this point. Maybe she knows that
there's some other forensic investigation from another branch of the government.
The other thing that the article said was that she

(01:24:46):
wouldn't go back on her allegiance to Biden. She was
asked questions about what would you do different in the
Biden years if you work to be president instead a
vice president, And she always said, I wouldn't do anything different.
And she always talked very highly of Biden, and she

(01:25:09):
always said that he was a very good president and
that she was okay with what he was doing, which
cost her. And I thought that was interesting too, because
if she really wanted to be president, wouldn't she do
something about that. Wouldn't she pull aside and say these

(01:25:31):
are the things I agree with, and these are the
things that I don't agree with. But I almost feel
like she had a deal going on with him too,
or my brain is saying she never thought she was
going to win in the first place, so knowing that
Biden was leaving and he could be a good ally

(01:25:53):
in the future, even though the Democratic Party didn't like
him and they knew that he was going to lose,
and even though he stepped aside, He's a fucking scorpio man.
He's not just gonna be like, sure, take my power.
I'm sure there was a back end deal for him too.

(01:26:14):
He still has cloud, and he still has influence, and
he can still make shit happen. I feel like she
wouldn't know that he's a very good ally for her
in the future. I just I feel like all of
this is leading up to something else. I feel like
the last four months, this again, this is my conspiracy, ilgically,

(01:26:38):
was just a big fucking ruise pointank period. And that's
partly why we're saying, oh yeah, there's nobody there, nobody wins.
Nobody wins because she knew she wasn't gonna win, and
because he cheated, so nobody really won. That would makes
sense why it's so confusing. It would makes sense because

(01:27:00):
everyone thought that she was going to win, and she
knew if the will, she wasn't gonna win, and they
let Trump win. I feel like she's playing the long
game and that she will win eventually, and that she
will let other people take care of Trump. That's not
her business. But I do feel like we're going to

(01:27:22):
see more of her, and we're going to see more
of her in bigger roles. I don't think the Democratic
Party thought that she was going to get so many
donations that I don't think they thought she was going
to be as popular as she was. And I think
that's part of that Moon Shenanigans, is that they were like,

(01:27:42):
oh shit, because they were setting her up to be
the proxy, the escapegoat. They were setting her up to fail,
and then they're like, oh wait a minute, people like her,
so now we have to make her likable and we
have to play the game knowing full well that she
is not going to win. Because it is very interesting

(01:28:04):
how quiet. The Democrats are being It is very interesting
how everyone is being very quiet, and it is very
interesting that Trump just leapt into power and nobody questioned it,
nobody did anything about it, and nobody's doing anything about
it now. Yeah, this was a fun little game. That's

(01:28:27):
my conspiracy. We have one last letter to look through here.
This is from Jackie Singh. It's from November twenty fifth,
twenty twenty four, says Dear President Biden and Vice President Harris.

(01:28:47):
I hope this letter finds you well. As the cybersecurity
lead on your twenty twenty campaign, I was proud to
contribute to ensuring a secure election process. Today, however, I
write to you with grave concerns about the integrity of
the twenty twenty four presidential election and the urgent need
for a forensic audit to restore trusts in our democracy.

(01:29:08):
Recent reports detailed alarming irregularities, including bomb threats traced to
foreign sources, breaches of voting system software, voter roll purges,
and surge in rejected mail in ballots. Together, these issues
undermine confidence in the election results. Security experts and election
officials have expressed concerns about the vulnerabilities these events exposed,

(01:29:32):
with some calling for recounts of paper balance in key states.
Given these unprecedents and challenges, I urge you to consider
a comprehensive forensic audit. Such an effort would not only
verify the accuracy of the vote count, but also identify
vulnerabilities that could threaten future elections. Nations like Germany and

(01:29:52):
Brazil have set examples by conducting forensic reviews to protect
electoral integrity. They should demonstrate the same commitment to transparency
and fairness. As someone who has worked to safeguard our democracy,
I believe that a forensic audit is necessary to ensure

(01:30:13):
that every vote is accurately counted and public trust is restored.
I respectfully ask for your leadership in initiating this vital process.
Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. I
would be happy to provide further details or support as needed. Sincerely,
Jacqueline Sing. And then here's a little bit about who

(01:30:37):
she is. This is her addentum to this letter. This
is for her substock, giving some more detailed information as
to who she is and why she can write this
letter with integrity. I was honored to serve as the
lead incident response and threat analysis for the campaign to
elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris alongside a team of

(01:31:00):
awesome folks under the leadership of our CISOCTO CTO and
campaign manager. During the twenty twenty election, anti democratic forces
attacked me personally with harmful lies which I have since
discovered have a foreign source. Since that election, these types
of hybrid warfare tactics have become more potent and destructive,

(01:31:23):
and our enemies have widened their usage and application. As
an example, note the myriad bomb threats key polling places
on election Day twenty twenty four, which disrupted our democratic process.
Please consider using your right to speak to make your
voices heard during this crucial time for our democracy. It

(01:31:47):
is Saturday, November thirtieth, nine pm. We have a few
other updates happening here, and then I'm going to wrap
this up because not that the information has gone away,
because it hasn't. It's still there. People are still talking
about it. However, I have some thoughts. I wanted to

(01:32:10):
read this substock from Steven spoon Moore. I'm not gonna
read the whole thing, but spoon Moore says basically that
the Swing States have historically huge drop off votes en
he says, ranging from three percent in Wi up to
ten percent in AZ n ENV. Kamala has normal drop

(01:32:30):
offs less than one percent in WI, M I, N ENV,
but has negative drop offs of over five percent in ENVY, A,
Z and H. He says, And this is the part
that I want to read. I want to meet the
hundreds of thousands of Democrats who voted in this election
and skipped the presidential vote. I can understand two percent

(01:32:54):
of them. Voters in Delaware apparently did this. Biden ultra loyalists,
but anywhere on a personal vindication front, a whole lot
of Karen's were a whole lot big mad. My dtw
letter had eleven to fourteen percent of Trump voters who
only voted Trump. Everyone noted it can never be that high,

(01:33:15):
and as numbers piled up, it turns out it was
six point one percent, which is an order of magnitude
above normal. But the delta I calculated was correct. It's
eleven point six because according to the computer's output, five
point five percent of Democratic voters took a ballot and
skipped the presidential race. They didn't vote Trump, they didn't

(01:33:39):
vote Kamala they left it blank. So basically he's saying
that the Matthew Mathom this is actual, real data, and
this is somebody who does this for a living. He
crunches this stuff. He looks at cybersecurity issues, and why

(01:34:00):
are we not listening to him? This is a real,
fucking huge concern. And based on what I've read, based
on what I've told you on this podcast, in my opinion,
Trump fucking stole the election. He used foreign factions to

(01:34:21):
do it, in my opinion, and again, put on your
tinfoil hat here. I think they let him do it.
I don't know why. I'm sure it'll come out in
history eventually. I'll be in my eighties and it'll be
one of those things where there'll be a movie about it.
We all know that he lies, we all know that

(01:34:43):
he is a criminal. Why wouldn't he do it? He'd
been bragging about how he was going to do it
for eight nine years now, he tried before in twenty twenty.
Why wouldn't he do it again? Trump is just going
to be president. There's this just turned your head. Look

(01:35:03):
the other way. Let's be complicit. And I know I
keep saying that, but it boggles my mind that the
government is just letting this man do whatever the fuck
he wants, and they're letting him into office, and they're
letting him steal it, knowing full well that he did it.

(01:35:27):
For now, I'm gonna let it lie for the sake
of my sanity, because I can't think of any good
reason why they would let this happen. I do think
that Harris made a deal. I do think we're going
to see her in a major public office, and that's
all I have to say about it. Welcome to the

(01:35:49):
end of democracy, and we'll see what happens with that.
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