Is Black Is King a Spell? A Pop Occult Investigation (Forgotten Bonus Episode)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So we were having a conversation and Leah brought up
the new Black Is King video and that there was
probably more going on than meets the eye, and that
started the discussion, and then once I watched it, I
was like, oh, yeah, there's more. We need to stop
and have a recording, do a podcast or something and

(00:21):
talk about this. So let's go around and introduce who
we are, kind of our experience, and we we're coming
from first impressions on first time of watching Black Is King.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
My name is Heather and I am a multi dimensional
reader iritro. I have a priestess background, a divine feminine background,
star seed background. I'm not religious or anything like that.
I'm spiritual, but I do know some paths, Like I
know Christianity pretty well because I was raised Baptist. But
so what I first saw was I'm like, oh, okay,

(00:55):
so this is going to be kind of like the
Retelling of Moses a little bit, just from the the
beginnings of it with the boat going down the water
and then there's a lot of Madonna iconography and I
hate that word, I never can say correctly, but she
definitely is fully into the divine feminine path. There's a
ton of Oshoon in this, like she's fully a daughter

(01:17):
of Oshoon. You can tell that she does talk about
the Arisha's at the end, so's she fully knows what
she's doing. And the other thing that I saw a
lot of was talking about the ancestors. But the ancestors
are in the sky, so she definitely believes in a
higher power, but a higher power that is probably either

(01:38):
alien or I don't know. From the stars. There's a
ton of stuff about the stars. And then the water.
There was a lot of water, but it's all that's
divine feminine, but also that's very Egyptian. And the other
thing that I saw was a lot of cleansing or
like rebirth, and there was I know it's supposed to
be about the king, but I thought this was more

(01:59):
about the queen. There was a lot more about the
rise of the divine feminine versus the king. Like the
king was sort of like an afterthought, I guess. And
this is just me being intuitive, But she really loves
her children and she really loves her family, but I
don't know if she really likes her husband that much.
I kind of got that vibe from it, but that's
just me being Judgi h Her.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Evelyn, how about you.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I'm wilsa Lark, I'm a witch medium, I'm I guess channeler,
and I know a lot about art and a lot
about thethology.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I guess that's where I'm coming from on this first impressions.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I mean, there's a lot of layers there, like like
the Heather said, I saw Moses, and there are a
lot I saw. Obviously, it's a retelling of the Lion
King on a very base base level. I mean, how
much more obvious can you be? You're using clips from
the movie. And then I saw Arisha's and African deities,
and I saw the ocean stuff, the divine feminine as well.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay, so I'm and I'm agreeing witch and moon pieces.
And I've been reading through Calls for about twenty years
or so and not religious at all, but very spiritual.
And my impressions of Beyonce's work, the themes that she

(03:13):
that she touched upon, are very familiar to me, and
that isn't novel or amazing. And what was interesting for
me to watch it because like everything that you all said,
are the same things that I saw in it, which
I think are the obvious things that she's trying to
do with it. I've always felt that, especially this new

(03:39):
this new iteration of Beyonce, there's other magic that she's
working because this is obviously a for me anyway, watching it,
it was very much an initiation, like there are tons
of initiations happening, tons of activations, activations happening throughout the
whole entire presentation, and for new people, I believe that

(04:02):
it was activating lots of stuff, like a lot of
things that you all talked about, and yet I also
believe there's other things that are potentially happening, And I
just wonder what light and dark energy that she's working with,
which is totally I have no judgment because you know,
obviously we all know light and dark is. I mean,
it's just the reality of the world that you know,

(04:23):
the scene in the unseen world that we were, that
we live in, which is why I was so excited
to talk with you all about it. But the majority
of people watching that and being activated by that have
very little awareness of it, if at all, And so
I just think it's an interesting conversation to have about

(04:45):
what's her what's what's her end game?

Speaker 6 (04:47):
If there is one you know, so it's.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Kind of that's kind of where my where my questioning
came from when I when I presented it to you all.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
Hi, my name is Maria Soul. I'm a witch and
a Tao card reader, but I I don't consider myself
necessarily very religious, very spiritual in my opinion. When I
was watching it, at first, it was like, Oh, she's
just embracing her her culture, her ethnicity. But to be honest,
like when I was finally watching it, I did see

(05:15):
that there was like a lot of that feminine power
and her connecting with her femininity. But at the same time,
it felt more like she was guiding the male aspect
in the story. Because I don't remember what mythology this
is from, but there's a mythology that it's like the
goddess gives birth to the sun and the sun grows

(05:37):
up and then she becomes the maiden. You know, It's
like the cycle of life and over and over again.
And that's what I was seeing when I was watching.
That did seem more than just her talking about the
odishas in the songs. I could see other odishas in
them that they were like kind of portraying but not
really portraying, like not obviously, but like when you would
look at them and if you knew not enough about Audisha,
she'd be like, oh, you're I know. But that's what

(06:02):
I was noticing about the whole the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, I am Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I am a podcaster for Stay at Home Star Seed,
which is where this will be. And I don't necessarily
call myself a witch, but I do some spell work.
You know. I'm like a newbie Tantrica, so I have
a little bit different perspective than everybody. But I'm a
super big impath And so when I watched this, I

(06:28):
really tapped into the energies. And there's something about the
music or the words that she is using that to me,
it really felt like she was tapped into source, Like
there is a really really deep source connection. It makes
you open up and feel that there's something with the

(06:51):
sounds and the emotions that she's portraying that is also
an activation. And there's just so many storylines. That's why
I saw there's so many stories going through this. You
know that first Son, you know, the creation of mankind.
There's the conflicts even with what we're seeing now with

(07:12):
like black lives matter, and this this white and black.
But you know, just going back and forth with that,
there's that battle in there, and that really stood out
for me too. But there is definitely something deeper by
bringing in this different these heritage and these arishas. The
heritage is there, which makes sense for like the Lion King,
because she is telling the story of the Lion King.

(07:34):
But there's another purpose, and I think that's what we're
looking at. We're looking at this deeper purpose, this deeper
spell work that may be going on beneath the surface.
So what we could do is break down what we see,
like if you want to go through it and look down,
and then we can break it down so we can
look at the symbolism, that higher meaning that we feel

(07:57):
that she's pulling in and see if we can dig
down deeper together if we see anything, because I think
with all of us we can see the different stories
that she's telling and maybe together we can put that
together and see what that deeper spell work is, whether
we see it or not, because I was also brought
up that it may not be right for us.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's spell work, So the audio is intentional. Maybe it's
just that my history of Beyonce and trusting her as
a representative of something I would want to follow and
aspire to. Is what is like kind of standing in
my way here because I feel like she is someone

(08:40):
where listening to her spell work, I would need to
have my shields up because I would not want to
be pulled into anything that I'm not fully aware of,
which I feel like is the work that Beyonce is doing,
because all of the things that you are already talking
about are like, it is an amazing experience watching this
presentation as an African American person with this actual heritage,

(09:04):
it is an amazing experience. I felt the activation. Also,
she's making herself the center of everything, and she's an entertainer,
so that makes sense, but it's also.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
To be noted.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And then also I just wonder, as her being the center,
what is again, what's her end goal? And some of
that symbolism is what I'm hoping that you all can
help with in terms of seeing like some of those
deities I don't know them. I don't know exactly who
they are that you know, some of those some of
those demons, some of those gods, some of those goddesses,

(09:37):
I don't know who they are, but you all have
that like book knowledge to know who they are and
can maybe can explain some of the you know, some
of the colors, the symbolisms, the different textures, the different
the different movements. Because I'm not familiar with them on
a textbook level. I'm just aware of the energy that
they instill in me. So we could talk about the
spell work of we could talk about the audio and

(09:59):
how it is, you know, because it's definitely sound magic
most definitely, I think that is a given. I also
am super like you said, interested in the symbolism actually is,
because that's what I feel like most people watching that
they don't know what that symbolism is. They're just being
moved by it.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I did have the same reaction that you did about
her being in every single shot. I was like, Okay,
so we're dealing with Arisha's and we're dealing with larger deities,
but you're in every single frame. What does that say
about how you feel about yourself? Like I did have
that moment too, and that did bother me a little bit,
And I was like, but she's an entertainer. But I'm like, yeah,

(10:38):
but like that makes me think about the Illuminati, and
not that I believe in that at all, but I
can see why people would think that with what Stephanie
said about it being very empathic. Like halfway through it,
I started crying, and I'm like, gosh, why am I
having such a viscal response to this from the song
about brown girls to the end, Like I was just like, mess,

(11:00):
there's definitely an empathic activation for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent of everything
you said.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
So I actually started rewatching it with the sound off,
and with that I could tell more of the storytelling
and I could see what kind of what she was
doing with that. But I didn't have that activation either.
It was just a visual that second time through. So
that's why I was curious, because there's definitely something going
on with the words, you know, because of that spell work,

(11:30):
but even the music, and there's something there too. And
if I would have, you know, not had a billion
things going on, I would have stepped it down and
actually looked at the wording with the scenes, you know,
and pull up the lyrics to see if there was
any connection that because there are definitely certain scenes where

(11:51):
they change the frames to draw attention to it. And
I was curious to see what the words were that
she would saying in those moments.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I watched it with the captions on because I wanted
to see what the words word, because that everyone was
talking about how it's very activating and spellworky. I was
trying to look up some of the African words that
she was using, and there's no translation. So I was
a little bit like, hmm, okay, well I know what
that means.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
I did the same thing because I was like, what
are they saying? And no, I couldn't find it on
Google Translate.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Really, you guys could.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I was going to add the audio clicked out, but
that's what I was going to try to do too,
I just didn't have time to. So, you guys couldn't
find the translation of any of the afterwords.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
No.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
The only thing I could think of is that maybe
it's like slang and that's what they were using, and
it wasn't like on Google Translate or something.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
There's lots of little tribes in Africa that may not
be on Google.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
This is true. However, for her to be doing a
public presentation like this on this level, her to be
Beyonce doing this level of a presentation, you would think
that she would use a language that would be translatable,
that would translate like one of the yeah for.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Them, that the spell could actually take more effect.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Beyonce can't be She's not my not going to be
my goal to I don't know, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Are that the masses are the ones who are supposed
to benefit from the spell? Or is she's supposed to
benefit from the spell? We don't know howations so maybe
she's using benefit her, but she doesn't care if we
get anything out of it.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
But sounds really mean that's not who I meant.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
If it's that she's siphoning energy off of the collective,
if she's you know, activating the collective so that she
can get more of that energy for her, which we
know entertainers do that all the time, Like you know,
they do unconscious spells like that all the time. I mean,
that's that's kind of what our whole entire entertainment industry is.
But Beyonce, on a certain level, that whole family, they

(13:51):
know what they're doing. They're not just like, oh, we're
just entertainers and yay, we just entertained like on if
they are doing that love of spell work, they know
that they're doing that level of spell work. Those are
charged words. But you know it's like you said, if
it's just purely for her, so she could like I'm amazing, Well.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Shoon's very much like love me, worship me. Look how
gorgeous I am because I am just like the bomb,
you know, Like she's like that. I mean, she's cool,
but she's she's she has that that ego about herself. Yeah,
and you could definitely tell me is like so channeling
Oshuan through the whole entire freaking thing. She's She's always

(14:33):
been a shoe for me every time I've ever seen her,
Like even when she was younger, I was like, oh
my god, she is so Oshoan. Like if if she
was one particular odisha, that would be her odisha.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
But I still feel like it's even if it's a
spell for the masses, it still serves her. I'm not
saying it's good or bad. I don't think the majority
of people realize that.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Do you feel like if it's like a you scratch
my back, eye scratch yours kind of spell in that
sense that we get something out of it and then
she gets something out of it. It's just that maybe
for her it might be more than what we get.
Is that what you're like kind of getting to.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
That's what I That's why I presented it to you
all because I felt like there were there was symbolism
in it that I did not know. You I mean,
it was it's almost like if somebody throws a bunch
of digitals in a picture that you don't you're not
aware of, but you look at it and you're like, oh,
my gosh, is awesome. But then now you're being affected
by all that energy. So that's why I wanted to

(15:24):
talk with you all about it, because.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
I'm like, what else is it here?

Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know? What is it that? Because I don't know all.
Like I said, I don't know all the symbolism. Maybe
I'm just seeing too much into it. Maybe it's just
my energy it's off, because I just don't really trust
beyond how how everyone else is seeing Beyonce as like, oh,
you know, this beautiful, wonderful example of what black women
should be. And it's like, maybe she's beautiful and she's

(15:47):
definitely channeling her energy and she's in her power and great,
but you know that's as far as the like I'm
trying to emulate or I would point her out as
a example to late. You know, that's asbout as far
as it would go. So but I think what's happening
is she's like I feel like she is setting herself up,
herself up as a deity to be worshiped as a

(16:10):
deity on that level. It just seems that way.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
I can definitely see it, Like, I mean, people have
that energy about her, like they when they talk about her,
they're like, oh my gosh, she's the queen. She's like this,
she's that like they go all ballistic. So I can
definitely understand where where you're getting that because I've seen that,
like I would i'd noticed that about her. I was like, man,
she like, I don't I'm not saying that she's full
of herself or anything, because she's she is an amazing artist. Yeah,

(16:35):
but I can I can get the whole like, you know,
like it does feel like if it's all about her
when she does do these like when she did Lemonade
and all that stuff, like it was very much like
just her, even though she did bring other people in
it and it wasn't just like her and the camera
was just on her. But it felt a little a
little ego driven. But then again, if she is a

(16:58):
follower of Oshoon, that is a very O'shoon energy is
very like I am just solk gorgeous. Look at me,
look at me, look at me. Oh my god. Yeah,
you know she has Yeah, I hate to say it's
like an excuse. That's just the ad show that she has. So,
I mean, that's the energy that she was probably going
to exude a way.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah, I don't want.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
To call it a suddenness, but confidence, Like it's just
a confidence that we're not used to seeing from women
in cinema. Why are we feeling like it's a bad thing.
Maybe she's just really confident in her bad asses.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
And I think that that is what that's generally how
it's interpreted. That generally, how it's interpreted that, Hey, look
at this awesome woman standing in her bad asses. She's
standing in her power. She's showing up and she's like, Yep,
everything is about me. I'm the star, and deal with it.
I mean, and that's and it's very possible. I mean,
it's you know, I mean, that's what I'm always preaching

(17:51):
to the people who listen to me about that kind
of stuff, is that you have the right to end
as a dancer. I have to embody that, you know,
I have to embody that I get to stand up
and get to take my you know, take ownership of
the space that i'm I'm in. Maybe it is just that,
you know, and maybe this's and maybe this is just
personal stuff, like maybe this is like shadow work for
me to unpack. That's why, that's that's why I'm here

(18:13):
in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
With you all.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You know, And what I will say, what I was
gonna say when you right before you said that evolent,
was that I tried to watch it this time, I'm
gonna say pure and just like not as like watching Beyonce,
but just like, oh if I was watching this and
I had no idea who Beyonce was, and and I
have to say, it was a different experience. It just

(18:37):
seemed like I was watching a movie and she happened
to be the she was the star of the movie,
you know, So it didn't seem as egotistical, and I
was able to appreciate, you know, just the beautifulness of it,
the amazingness of it, the activation of it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I'm not sure if it's a personal hang up because
I'm all for sovereignty and I'm all for for queendom,
like that's kind of what I teach, So I don't
mind women being in their full power. But even I
had a little bit like, ooh, this is a little
bit too much. And I mean, like and what is
I think we can debate that, like what is too much?
But there was a sense of it almost where she

(19:12):
was a deity. That's what I got from it. I
didn't see it as I am human. I mean the
second song or the third song, she's of the stars.
She's literally telling you she's of the stars. She's not
just a you know, she is one of the ancestors.
What she's saying, you know, she's she's something beyond, which
is fine. I mean, if that's what she wants to

(19:33):
go with, go with her bad self. It does make
me wonder and I think intuitively you're hitting on something
about like what is she activating? Is it for me?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Is it for her?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Because if she does truly see herself as a deity,
then then what power is she trying to gain? Yeah? Gain,
that's sort of can't think of that word. I'm not
a huge fan of Beyonce, like I don't see her
as anything more than an entertainer. I don't come in
with any like preconceived notions of who she is. But
at the same time, I did have that same feeling,
and I was like, all right, all right, what am

(20:05):
I supposed to learn from this? What am I supposed
to know? And it's about power, like taking back your power?
What power is she taking back? Because I want to
know is she taking back her sovereignty power or is
she like just taking everybody's power. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
It totally makes sense to me. That's the question that
I was when it.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
When I watched it, I was just like, what is
she doing?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Because she she's totally hitting all of my trigger points
of like activating my power and me wanting to be
a strong feminine. And it's like, like you were saying, Maria,
like the divine feminine. I think you said that hither too.
I mean, it's all in there. It's amazing. I mean,
like and and she looks like the freaking divine mother.

(20:45):
Like whatever cinematography they did, whatever she did to like
train her body, I mean like she she completely has
stepped into that embodiment. It's easy to feel all that
it almost felt too easy to fill all that.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
One thing I thought was really interesting, You're talking about
how like siphoning power and like how nobody can really
quite pinpoint what she's trying to get or give. One
thing I did notice is that there are she has
basically combined like six different mythologies or six different stories
into one story. The moment your brain wrapped around some

(21:21):
things that oh, that's baby Moses in the basket, it
flipped to some Egyptian I'm like, you know, like Osiris
and Isis and baby horrors stuff, and then it flips
over here to the Lion King, and then it flips
over here to she you know, ocean and all of
these energies. I feel like that was deliberate. I think
that she worked her butt off to really keep you

(21:44):
from being able to pinpoint, and that I feel like
that was very deliberate to switch it up so much
and so quickly, just at that moment when I'm like, oh, wait, no, well,
oh I did that the whole movie, except for the.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Part of the little boy a bald like a little
bit about that.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
There were a lot of crime moments for me too.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, I mean, she fully went into hawthar too with
the bulls. We're gonna go bull goddess. Now, okay, so
we're throwing that in all right, that has nothing to
do with African culture. Great, like okay, now we're going
to Egyptian. What's going on here? Like yeah, I totally
felt that. But she has a virgo, so everything she
did is deliberate. It has to be m hm.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
See yeah, And that that makes me think, I mean
it could be because like she's just really trying to
I mean, she could be trying to show like synergy
between all of she could be trying to I don't know,
like what's what I'm looking for, but like massive activation
like by like throwing it all in your face like
super fast, or it could be because she's trying to
do something else that that's just you.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
Know, she's trying to.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
And I know you, like you, Stephanie, you know a
lot about the subconscious and like you know kind of
like how your subconscious bring brain works and your conscious
brain works, and like like a way to keep us
unaware of the subconscious level because we never settle into it.
But then something else is happening there. I don't know,
Maybe it's just me and my conspiracy theories.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
I'm saying that she did it very deliberately to mask
what she acts her real intention is.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yes, see, see I'm not just crazy.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
You all see what you all see something of the
same thing. I see. I don't know what it is,
but you know, I.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Mean, does anybody here think they know what it is?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I would know?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, hopefully if we go through it and we pick
it apart, that we will have maybe a better idea
of something. Now what when you were talking about seeing
herself as a deity, Now part of that for me
is like, okay, so we are stepping into our power
and we are recognizing ourselves as God right or being

(23:52):
as one because there are the philosophies like that, especially
like in the non dualist TNTRA and things like that,
where you are taking on this belief that there is
something beyond the duelists, there is only one thing, There
is only that one energy. So in a sense I
get that from her and as her belief system, as

(24:13):
you know, we are deities, we are strong, and she
is putting in that activation because there has been so
much just you know, bullshit pretty much that has gone on.
So there's definitely that activation and I see that.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
But then when she is in.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
All of these paintings as these different deities, then it's like,
what is that Like that that's a little bit more
so I definitely get what you're saying with that. But
there's also like in tantra, there's tontric yoga or deity yoga,
I mean, where you are taking on the embodiment of

(24:53):
those deities, Like that's what it is, and you're essentially
being possessed by the different deities. So there are practices
in different spirituality, you know, or different practices that came
out completely wrong, but these different spiritual practices where that's

(25:15):
what you are doing, and she is being a good
example of that is if she is being Oshoan, she's
definitely embodying Oshuan.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like do you all think that maybe that I'm not
going to say that innocent, that's not the right word,
but it's just that it's like, Okay, she's because she's
embodying these different deities because that's a part of her
spiritual practice, and she just happens to be putting that
on display.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
No, No, I mean there's so much stuff. I mean,
she's activating all of them. I think she's activating them
all to bring power to her spell.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
Question is what is her spell? That's the That's the
main thing I was thinking about when Evelyn was saying like, oh,
you know, like does anybody know what it means or
what you know? And I was thinking to myself, like,
the only thing that comes to mind is she puts
a lot of emphasis on herself in the whole movie.
Could it be that that she's doing it purposely for them?
We don't acknowledge or realize that she's also talking about

(26:15):
a boy and him growing up, and in a sense
she's nurturing the child and guiding him. That might be
the actual message, and you just don't notice it because
she's so like, look at me, look at how gorgeous
I am with these sparkly clothes, which may I say,
oh my god, I want her wardrobe. When that's happening,
you don't really don't notice the kid until they show
the kid and you're like, oh, that's right. She's talking

(26:36):
about a little boy. Yeah, may I say when he
becomes an adult of mercy on my soul, he's gorgeous,
I have to say a man there, Yes, yes, yes,
I'm single. I'm just saying, if he ever listens to this,
what I took from it is that she's nurturing that
young man as he grows up, and it's sort of
like guiding him to a certain degree if you actually

(27:00):
not paying attention to the words, to what she's saying,
but to the actual actions and the progression of the
actual visual of the story. So for me, that's that
might be like the underlying message of her guiding people
or gout or like giving you guidance, you know, like
that's the energy, like I don't know, like something within

(27:21):
that nature, Like I don't know how you can convert
that into a spell or like how to put it
out into the universe in a sense. But that's what
I got.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But isn't that that kind of like grouping, like in
the in the negative perspective where it's like, oh, I'm
the only one that has the answer and I'm going
to guide you.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
Well, I mean, if she's if she's if she's embodiing
the not herself but her like the god, like the
feminine aspect, I would say that that's what she's saying,
that's the guidance, not necessarily her She's just the condo.
At least that's how I see it, But I could
be wrong. You know, still Oshoon Varia missus ego driven,

(28:03):
you know, energy there so never you never know.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
That's actually what my working theory of what the what
she's actually doing?

Speaker 5 (28:12):
What see if I can articulate it, it works in
my brain.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think that she is probably channeling energy for herself
because she is a celebrity.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Therefore she has an ego. That's not a bad thing.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
I do think that the purpose of channeling all the energy,
especially considering that they reshot a bunch of that movie
right after George Floyd and all of that happened to
reflect the climate that we're in. I feel like she
is drawing energy from the collective in order to uplift

(28:46):
young black men and to raise them up in a
way that they connect with their ancestors and they connect
with their ancestral energy and the energy the divine feminine,
so that they can be strong leaders for future generations.
For them, she wants them to stand up and take
their rightful place and society and be able to have
the fortitude to fight, to fight, so to speak.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
That is my theory.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I hope that that is the main reason and the
primary reason, because yes, that is absolutely evident that that
is the whole point of how it's presented. It's presented
so that black men realize is everything you just said,
and that they understand how important black women are to
their evolution because she, I mean, that's the whole part

(29:35):
of that divide feminine energy and how she and how
she always presents herself in the past couple of years,
and even how her and jay Z presents themselves as
a strong unit, like you know, there needs to be
a unit, a you know, black male, black male, and
black female unit. I believe that that is That's why
she's being celebrated. That's why it is being celebrated because

(29:58):
in the African American community the most part, it is
like the Mecca come home. It's like, oh my gosh,
we've never ever seen this before. This has given us,
and especially for the young you know, for millennials and
kids younger than that, it has definitely given them that
sense of pride and that sense of connection and that
sense of you know, that whole lion king story. Who

(30:20):
am I? Who am I? Who am I? I mean,
that's what it's about I wonder if it's about anything else, like,
because of course that's going to captivate and grab everyone
and make everyone go, oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm gonna
watch this over and over and over again. I don't
let my kids watch this. I'm gonna send this to
my plans. We're gonna watch this at every family reunion.

(30:42):
We're gonna watch it every year at Christmas. This is it,
this is what we have waited for. She has presented
who we are to ourselves. I hope that's what it is.
I really hope that that is That's all her whole intent,
and that's what she wanted to do, to present something
wonderful and empowering and uplifting for the African American community,

(31:02):
because it definitely did that, and for black people to
actually pull back to their roots, black people who have
roots in Africa, to recognize those connections, that's what it did.
Anybody that would give you a commentary on it off
the top would tell you that's what it was for,
and that's what it did.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
I think presenting the visual part of it is obvious.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
What I think she's actually doing is I think she's
pulling the energy from the entire audience to make it happen.
I feel like she's actually saying, I'm most soon and
I'm going to take what I need, and I'm taking
it from anybody watching this, and I'm going to push
it through on everyone's behalf.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
That's what I think she's doing. I hope so liking her.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Motives because she's a Burgo. I'm a Virgo, and so
I want to think the best of her. But I
think she's I think she's taking it the choice away
and making it happen.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I really hope. So I was going to say, I
wanted to point out too if you all saw this
in the symbolism, because it seemed like she was because
she was in every single scene for the most part,
it seemed like she played multiple deities, not just power,
not just positive divine, feminine deities, but she also played

(32:15):
like demon dieties too, for lack of a better word,
like you know, like the shadow sides that were like
when he was like when he was a little boy
in there with a scar, and when he was the adult,
like you know out there in the hearse, you know,
drive around the hears, you know, like it seemed like
she played those roles also, and so I was wondering

(32:38):
if that was just the you know, just the play
of like you have to have the light and the
dark to bring about, you know, true transformation.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, there's actually something in one of the songs about that.
When they're playing the chest there is a comment about
the light in.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
The dark exactly Daisy. His whole entire rap is about that,
and there's like that whole entire and that's what I
was like, Okay, well maybe they're maybe that's what they're
you know, but that's what again, it gets me back to, like,
but what is what? How much of the dark are
they sacrificing or do people realize like how much of
the dark they're being asked to sacrifice in order to

(33:17):
get the light? Like it reminds me, did you guys
see that movie? There was some movie some kind of
Armageddon thing had happened, and so then people and became
if they stopped talking and they were the people that
dressed in all white and they became a part of
the cult. I'll find out out, but anyway, the reference point,
the reason why I'm pointing it out is that I
think and I think they had to cut their tongues
off or something, because it was like they took a

(33:38):
vowel silence, and so it was like that's what they
that that was what they felt they had to do
to be saved, because like there was some kind of
virus or something happening in the world or some something
like that, something that took out most of the population
and people were barely surviving, and that's what they felt
they had to do to be saved. And it just like,
is that why they're presenting the light in the dark

(33:58):
so that people could be like, oh, okay, you know
you got to kill a few of us. It's okay
because you know it's a sacrifice that we got to make.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's so interesting. When you were talking about the masculine
in this there's that beautiful scene where she has all
these men in purple and you just seeing I'm talking
about I can't remember exactly. I think they're in the desert,
I think, and they're in the church. She's definitely talking about,
you know, how the masculine needs to rise up and
you know, play their part in all of this. However,

(34:29):
I have an issue with it, and this is just
me reading people like I've literally done over ten thousand
readings in my lifetime. The parts where jay Z are
in it are like painful for me to watch a
little bit. And there is something, there's something about the
relationship where I'm like, you don't like him, and I
know you don't like him.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
And one of the things she says.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Is in one of the first songs is I'm still
not a very good wife, and she says, I'm telling
you to b one, and I was like, Oh, that's
the whole movie right there. She's trying, she's trying to
figure out what to do with her husband, and she's like, hey, son, hey,
don't be your father. That's what I got out of it.
And then I was like, Okay, now I'm thinking about
it way too much. That's really kind of what I

(35:11):
got from it. And then when I saw that beautiful
scene with all these these beautiful black men in these
purple royalty colors, she was like, this is what you
could be. Don't be him. And I kind of saw
him as what's who's the risha that drinks a lot?
He's drinking and she's she's in the front of the
There's this one shot of him in a car and

(35:34):
he's he's drinking and she's in the in the forefront
of it, and she's she's churning her back on him,
And I was like, oh, this is very interesting from
a psychological profile, Like we're just looking if we're without
the music, we're just looking at this picture. This is
how she feels about black men, and it's her father
and it's a reflection of Jad and she wants him

(35:57):
to do better, and she wants African men to do better.
And if that is the case and she's deifying herself,
then she does feel like the divine feminine is going
to take over the world. I mean, that's what That's
what I got from it. But then on the other hand,
I do kind of feel weird about that because it's like,

(36:19):
where's the line between being the deity and being the light?
And then just kind of moving into that that hag
sense where it's like, well, I'm angry, so I'm going
to just siphon off all the energy of the world.
Like where's that line? You know what I mean? That's
that's the whole Empress thing. Or do we stay in

(36:40):
the Empress energy or do we move into the Kalie energy.
It's interesting that she both of her daughters are in this,
but her son is not. Her son did not play
any roles in I Too, And I was like, what
does this mean? What does this mean?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Like, no, I love that you bore that up. Because
a couple things. One, she had that song about her daddy.
She talked she's she usually on every album lately, she's
had a song about her dad and of how her
dad taught her all these things and you know, did
all these things for her.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
And then if you look at how the persona.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Of jay Z, how he was next to her, and
how he kind of always tends to be And I
don't know if this isn't everything they do is intentional.
So I know it's intentional, but I don't know what
the intent behind it is. But like when he when
they were sitting there was a scene when they were
like sitting watching TV, eating with TV dinners, and you
saw he he almost and forgive me for Sandens, but

(37:37):
he almost like he was his persona was almost that
like I'm just gonna eat with my fingers and you know,
you know what I mean? Like that that was that
was intentional. Like it was like and she and She's
sitting there like the goddess beautiful and like, you know,
trying to be like it's okay, but you're like.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
This sucked out.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
It's all right, it's gonna sit here and be beautiful.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's like that to me was they obviously wanted that
to be in the you know, but I feel like
it was intentional. And then like you said, that scene
when when his whole cameo in the entire thing when
he drove, when he was driven in and his Cadillac,
his feet were up, you know, and he's just all
laid back, that juxaposed, like you said, with every other

(38:22):
image of a black man in that in this presentation
that was supposed to be with that that elicited that
feeling of like ooh aw, this is like I feel
pride in my Chester, like I want a man like that,
you know, like all the rest of them instill that
ducaposed against his image that was nothing like that, because

(38:45):
that's my whole thing is like I just don't there's
something not and I'm gonna use the word pure, but
you all know what I'm saying, Like there's something not
just above the above the board about what she's doing
in this. My husband sucks and I'm about to use
this energy to at least make sure that everybody else's
husband in the future doesn't suck.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
I don't know, but does he realize that?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Does he realize how he's being portrayed? That's what I wonder.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I wonder that too. I honestly don't feel like jay
Z cares. I feel like jay Z. So I don't
know how much you all know about jay Z, but
jay Z is a very intelligent man. Like when he
first came out on the scene, he came out like
he was an intelligent rapper, like I mean, like someone

(39:32):
who was scholarly. And when he realized that, like, oh,
you know, people are not gonna pay me for that,
Like he came back out as a like, you know,
just as a junk rapper. I mean, you know, but
what was popular in terms of like I'm gonna talk
about my car, I'm gonna talk about the girls I got,
you know, and you know, make a sound all catchy

(39:53):
and stuff. And so he is a mastermind in terms
of I guess what people want, you know, And so
that's where the whole Illuminati thing comes from, because it's like,
I do truly feel like day Z will do whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I mean, we're talking about light and dark energy. I
feel like he probably deals more with dark energy than
light energy. Like I feel like Daisy doesn't really care
about many people or many things.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
It's like he's very I think he is amassing power
and stuff and that kind of thing. So maybe he knows,
maybe he does it. I don't know if he cares.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
If he I don't know if he would care if
he did know.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe because okay, because okay, So
friend of mine, I was just talking to her before
our call, and she has always believed that jay Z
was the person who created Beyonce as she is now.
She has always felt like Beyonce doesn't like she's not
a big Beyonce fan, so she always feels like Beyonce
never has anything intelligence to say in interviews. She really doesn't,

(40:51):
you know, present herself well except for on stage, and
she's a great entertainer and she knows what to do there.
But in terms of being someone that is someone to
immolate and follow, she really just doesn't have the full package.
She's always felt like it was jay Z who created
that full package of who Beyonce is now and because

(41:12):
I know people will argue, like, well, she don't be honest,
it's been working hard all her life. But I feel
like that's interesting thinking about this, because I feel like
it could be that this is the way that she's
able to have power in this relationship because she can't
have power outwardly in this relationship. So because of that,

(41:33):
she has power in this relationship through all of this
spell work, in this activation that she goes through divion
feminine instead of just like kicking him out or divorcing
him or you know, because like they obviously I mean,
you know, well not obviously, but they've built this empower
that's not going to happen. So I wonder if that's
part of it.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
I've always felt like I don't think they really love
each other, Like I don't feel any love between them,
but I feel a lot of like you scratch my back,
I scratch yours. We're a good team when it comes
to all this, but I don't want to sleep with you.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
You know.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
It's like that's what I've always felt, like that like
if she didn't get artificially inseminated, it would be a miracle,
you know. Like that's how I feel about their relationship now.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong. You know, I could be wrong.
Like when he saw her, he was like, wait, I
can work with you. We can do something here. I
can make you a star. We can do this. And

(42:28):
that's where where that all comes from at least, So
like what you're saying is totally Tom totally getting that.
Like I'm totally getting those vibes. I've always had those vibes.
I was like, no, they know what they have. They're
not leaving each other. He can cheat on her all
he fucking wants. She's like, he's my cash cow. I'm
his cash queen. Okay, We're good. We're not doing it.

(42:50):
We're not leaving each other.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Okay. Cool. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Now I'm thinking about this in terms of what Lea said,
because I'm like, hmm, right, are we are we totally
getting the hose right now? Are we totally being spelled? Well?

Speaker 7 (43:05):
It really depends, I think, on on how we perceive spells,
because people have cast spells on me and none of
it has actually worked. Because I'm true, it's a fight
of your will, So if you allow it, then I
guess it would happen or it would work or her
spell would affect you.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
That's kind of it's new. It's like, well, if she
gives your energy, she earned it.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
I love that take. Yeah, I mean because I just
came in on the end of this, but I mean
I kind of feel like, yeah, it's just the ebb
and full of life. Like you know, if the masses
are caught up in it, and they're just caught up
in it, that's that's the world we live in. But
I do believe that the majority the masses don't have
that level of like, oh, I'm not going to be
affected by the spell.

Speaker 7 (43:48):
Well, I mean, if you think about it, if somebody
doesn't believe in magic or doesn't believe in spell work,
I don't see how it would work on them because
I don't think it would affect them as much or something.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
I don't know, because like people are pretty I mean
they have been fairly moved by this, and there is
so much of.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
The background like I mean, yeah, we picked out I mean,
this is what we do for a living. Because of
course we're going to pick out hathor of course we're
going to pick out Moses. Of course we're going to
pick out the divine feminine. But that's what we do
for a living, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Most people don't.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Have that awareness. Most people don't don't understand that they're
going to see it and they're going to be like,
this feels familiar to me, This feels like something that
I should know. Are they going to go further than that?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I don't think so. Most people aren't as curious as
we are either. We are a bunch of curious women.
We're like, we must know the answer to everything. But
most people are like that. Most people are like, look
at the sparklas on her dress. She's so cool, and
that's the end of it.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
A kid all my life. When I was a kid,
I was a why kid?

Speaker 2 (44:55):
But why? But why?

Speaker 7 (44:56):
Because it just is?

Speaker 3 (44:57):
But why?

Speaker 7 (44:58):
No, there has to be a why, mom. I think
we're all we're all those kids.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I wanted to go back with what Leo was talking
about with the air quotes negative deities, because there was
that whole snake scene in the middle of this where
she obviously was the shadow side of something. What did
you all think about that?

Speaker 7 (45:16):
The snake scene? Is that the one with the guy
with the snake on his shoulder.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:21):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
The funny thing about.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
That that I found kind of because I knew it
was like kind of like the darker side to magic,
like the darker side to how to cast spells and
like sometimes you gotta be a little bit dirty to
get what you need to get and all that stuff,
which I'm okay with, and trust me, I'm not innocent
in any way, shape or form. But at the same time,
when I was watching that, all I could think of was,

(45:44):
I was thinking about one particular show, which is Yeah,
I think it's I was thinking about him. He's he's
in most times you'll see him, he's just ahead, like
his his image is just ahead. But the whole time,
I was like, Wow, that's that just gives me vibes
the whole entire song. And but that's not the part
that I found very interesting. What I found very interesting

(46:04):
is that one of the kids that you see, like
one of like the twelve year olds or the thirteen
year olds that you see in the video, in that part,
he has like charms. He has a vest and a
hat with charms on him, like dangling everywhere, and ninety
percent of all that he's wearing are crosses and it's just.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Like so, yeah, I noticed that too.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Yeah, And I was like, are you saying that Christianity
is dark or there's something up with Christianity? Like or
are you just or is that just like, hey, let's
just put him crosses on him, like it'll look cute,
you know, like it matches with his outfit or something
like where does that come from? And I noticed like
some Christian like like crosses and other little things like

(46:42):
obviously the Moses thing, but that one, when I saw that,
I was like, what the hell, this is a very
dark scene. What are you doing with a kid wearing crosses?
And he doesn't look like he's a nice kid, you know,
he looks like a very not so nice kid. So
you know, like I mean, you could read into a
lot of that. You can read into like you know,
like I don't know, like I just like, what do

(47:04):
you guys think?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
So I took it as temptation for one, because you
have a snake and you've got the crosses, and then
there's this interpretation of Christianity coming in and taking over.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I got that too.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
And also like even in the story when you look
at this boy, there's actually two stories going on. There's
the story of this like first child and this you know,
godly child coming in, but then there's also this worldly
child story of like the lion king story. So it's
like the merging of them together. So it's like these

(47:43):
children come in and there's this new world and all
this temptation to lure them. So then you have kind
of like this fall from grace and going back to
you know, switching behind between all of these stories. I meane,
there are stories from all over the world that are
very similar, you know, and they all have essentially the
same origin, or at least that's what we think, so

(48:07):
I mean, and that's a lot of what I was
thinking about when we went through all this, because you know,
I've been looking at the Ananaki stuff and the Samerian
stuff and a lot of these other stories that we
see pop up all originate from that. So I think
she's going back to a really really deep history somewhere
and that's what she's pulling from.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
So we have.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
This I don't know, it's this recognition. I think when
we talked originally, I said, you know, it's an archetypal thing.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
So it's not like she's.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Just being this archetype and having these different orishas and
these deities show up. She's activating those archetypes within us,
and that we're remembering too. So when you have the
Christianity come in, you're activating that Christianity, but you're also
activating all of the negative behaviors that have come along

(49:00):
with that, whether that's actually been christian or if it's
been these other paths practices and taking you off of
the path of the divine.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Which Massie thinks about all of her opulence in this video,
because is that taking you off the path? Because she
is in cars, she is in mansions, she is in
all of these really really beautiful clothes that you know,
costs a lot of money. So does she recognize that
in herself or or no? And I guess that's that's

(49:35):
I guess that's maybe where where the question comes in,
is that she's showing all these really really high end
concepts that are forcing you to remember things. I mean, definitely,
it's gonna bring up past lives and stuff for people,
for sure, But does she realize that she is part
of that problem though, with the opulence and with the
mansions and with the what she has created.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, I think that's a great question. And again with
her showing like again, I mean, I feel like it's intentional,
just because like you said, you all said, I can't
imagine she created something and wasn't intentional about it. But
she has all of these beautiful scenes where the opulence
is like regal and spiritual, almost as though it's like,

(50:20):
you know, it came down from the heavens. But then
she has some clear scenes I think two or three
songs where it's like, no, this is like bass opulence,
like you know, I've got all my gold, it's all shined,
and didn't know my car with my legs cocked open,
you know what I mean. It's like And again, you know,
we could say that that's her like standing in her

(50:40):
feminine power and like, yeah, I'm the hardcore and I
get to have all this stuff and I get to
see the queen a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
One.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I know people like that, and I know how they
get stuck there because they can they convince themselves that
like I deserve all of this because I'm amazing, but
like they're stuck in their evolution, you know, Like it's
because they think that all these things are really what
it's about. And like you said, Heather, so does she

(51:12):
realize she's a part of like still perpetuating that because
does she care?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Was the intent like to show that you could be
you could be all of this and that it's all okay?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
You know, yeah, I think it's the intention behind it,
like for what are why are you wanting that wealth?
Is it strictly for their wealth or is it okay?
I know I'm divine and I deserve this, and there
is a more spiritual meaning behind it, like don't get
lost in your way and just go for the gold

(51:48):
because there is a lot more behind that.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
Yeah, that's what I kind of got. It was like, yeah,
I deserve this, I've worked hard for this, I have this,
but it's not all it's cracked up, like it's not everything.
It's not like because she doesn't stay there in the video,
you know, like that's not like that's not the end,
like when she has all that and like okay, now
we're done, bye, see you later, thank you for watching.
Try the veal. You know, she doesn't do that. She

(52:13):
continues with, you know, with the story. So I think
it's just saying like because a lot of people in
especially in the metaphysical like spiritual community, have a tendency
of being like, oh, I'm I'm great and I'm fantastic
because of my abilities and you know, all the activations
I've had and blah blah blah blah. But they're like,

(52:34):
but I do it all for free because I teach
it all for free because I don't want to, you know,
like it's it's it's not meant to be an ego
driven thing and blah blah blah blah, and it's like
we don't have that, you know, Like and in a way,
she's sort of like saying, it's okay, at least that's
what I got, Like it's okay to have riches, it's
okay to have money, it's okay to have all these things.

(52:54):
Just don't lose yourself and think that that's the only
thing that you need. You have right to own it
to be like, yes, I'm rich, Yes I got money.
So what Because she was like saying, like look at
me again, very o'shoon, like oh girls, like I'm hot shit.
But at the same time, it's like that's not all
there is, at least as a whole the whole video

(53:16):
as a whole.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I guess as a woman, I gets so confused by
that message. Not that it has to be straightforward, because
you know, feminity is not straightforward at all, but it
brings you back to this WAP song that's out right now.
Is it Wopper? Is it Wap? I don't know, but
it's that same kind of thing where we have these
women and they're totally in their power and they're sexually

(53:38):
there and they're doing their thing, and I'm perfectly fine
with that. I'm not trying to judge them at all.
But at the same time, it's like, but is that
really what femininity is? Is it just pussy power? Is
that all it is? And I get very like and
I have that same feeling with this that I do

(53:59):
with that. It's that, Yeah, I love this idea of
feminine power and that we can be sexual and we
can be desired, and we can be hot, and we
can have money and we can have ben and we
can have whatever the fuck we want. But at the
same time, it's like, but is that really all it's about?
Isn't there more to it? And then and then I

(54:20):
see this with Beyonce, and yes, there is more to it.
Obviously because she's bringing our risios, she's bringing all this
this mythology, and she's bringing in all of this divinity.
But then now we have the mixture of the two,
and that's really what humanity is about. I guess it's
about the divinity, but it's also there early too, and
we're seeing that together. But then I'm not really sure

(54:42):
which one to believe. I hope that made sense. It
gets confusing sometimes, and I guess it's the Madonna horror,
like you know, diconomy, But at this the same time,
it's it's done in a way where it's almost like,
in order for you to be a badass, you have
to be at the wap Beyonce level, you know what

(55:05):
I mean, where you have to stick you're pussing everyone's
face for it to matter, or you have to look hot,
or you have to be this certain feminine archetype in
order for that to work. Like if you weren't a
stripper and then made it and it came out that
there's side a millionaire and then it doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yeah, no, that totally makes sense to me. I completely
feel what you're saying. It's kind of it is. It's
the idea that again, and I feel like this is
again part of the problem. The issue I have with
Beyonce archetype is because she is actually presenting herself as
an archetype. And again it's it's extremes and again, and

(55:47):
this could be just because she's an entertainer, and we
have to keep that in mind while we're watching this.
We can't watch this as a documentary or a training session,
which is that I feel like that's how people are
watching this are looking at this, is that this is
something to emulate. But there is no real woman.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Maybe that's it. Maybe there's like, you know, there's you know,
it's like either you know, like you said, either you're
throwing your pissy in everybody's face. I'm like, yeah, I'm
gone it. I'm a curse too, so I got and
I'm still female, still feminine. Or you're like, you know,
an archetype, you know, you know, and you have to

(56:27):
be like so beautiful and so you know, divinely like
stepping and almost floating off off the ground. You know,
she's presenting herself as an archetype on purpose, and maybe
that's part of the issue. But I do feel like
that middle ground is not It is missing, and it
was missing throughout the presentation because even the other women

(56:52):
that were presented there were still and this could just
be my view of it. And again, because she's the entertainer,
she needs to be the one on display, they were
still presented as like we are we are devotees of
queen Goddess Beyonce, or we are I might even like

(57:12):
Naomi she she you know, Naomi Campbell. She she was
standing and she was obviously it was an olde to Naomi,
but she still looked like she was a devotee of fiance.
You know, even with Beyonce sitting down, it still looked
like Naomi was like, oh, Queen Beyonce has you know

(57:32):
she raised me.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
With the ability to be on her show, on her movie.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I'm so proud.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
I can't believe this made it matter.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
I finally made it show.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
I totally get what you're saying, Like totally, oh my god,
I get exactly what you're getting. The only person in
the whole entire like movie that was feminine, you know,
like a woman that I saw like that she was
either an equal or like she was just like whatever
was her sister that was the only the only person

(58:14):
that you could be. She was like, yeah, whatever, Beyonce
is my sister, you know. She was the only one
that was like that. Everybody else is like hi, oh
my god, so like happy to be here.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Like I got use temples.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Oh my god, you touched my hand. You touched my hand,
like yes, exactly. The energy that you get from these women,
which I get.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I get it. I get it if.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
She's like your idol and all that stuff, and I
don't think there's anything wrong with that, you know, but
I get. But I also get the thing that a
little like too much of that for a person might
not be the best thing. But I definitely get it.
But I definitely get what you're saying. It's like you
could see it. It's like, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Now the sister there for sure, like whatever, it's my sister.
I totally got that from her. And her mom was like, yeah,
I'm her mom. And the one shot with her mom
and the daughters, she was like, I'm the mom. I'm here.
Made my thing cool. There was a woman though, one
of the dancers in towards the end. She was wearing
like a purply outfit and she was doing some kind

(59:22):
of African dance in a white room, and I got
really really caught up in her because she had that
feminine power that I was sort of looking for in this.
She's kind of a heavier woman, and you could tell
that she danced her whole life. I don't know, there
was something about her. She was doing this very very

(59:43):
visceral African dance and it was for a second I
was so interested in her. She took the show just
for a couple of seconds and then they cut away
from her. But I was like, That's what I'm looking
for right there. That's a real woman right there. Not
that Beyonce's not a real woman, but there was something
about her that intrinsically I felt like I connected to, Like, Okay, yeah,

(01:00:06):
she was powerful, she was she was visceral, woman, sexual,
but it was like all there, all together, and she
wasn't really even trying.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
You mean that she didn't have to make a movie
to show that she was that she didn't have to
like go to all that trouble to be like I
feel like if I'm love, like if I'm important.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
She had that importance. She was in a white room dance, yeah,
And I was like that's it. That's what I'm looking
for right there? That I again I I I think
what Beyonce is doing is awesome. I think Lemonade is iconic.
It's it's going to be something that we look at forever.
But it's and even this this is again, this is iconic.

(01:00:49):
But I don't know it's confusing as a woman too.
Is that is that what I have to be?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
You know? What I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Is that it? Oh like like I'm like, that's not
gonna happen. I don't know. There's something very confusing about
that where I'm like, yes, I love it. I love
that divine, feminine it is being fully displayed here and
all of its glory. However, is that it? That's That's
what I'm striving for, because who I fail?

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
I think Beyonce is just showing like that eminem power.
That's like it's like it's like a she's trying too hard.
Sometimes I feel like sometimes I feel like she's like
it's like she's it's almost like she's not confident, not confident,
and is like I need to make these movies. I
need to make these you know, I have to do

(01:01:41):
these photo shoots to like to embrace that side of me.
And I'm like, dude, you know that to embrace that
that feminine energy, you don't have to make movies, right,
you don't have to do this. You can just do
this at home. You can meditate, you can you know,
do stuff that is feminine, quote unquote, you know, you
don't have to do that. So I think it's like
a mix of that and a mix of like wanting

(01:02:03):
to maybe almost express it, you know, like just be
like like she I mean, if you if you want
to look at it in a personal level, not in
a giant scope level, just in a personal level as
a person. For her, it could mean that she just
needs that that outlets, like maybe as an entertainer, she's
always had to be somebody else for the masses, you know,

(01:02:23):
and now she has that power in a sense of
like you know, her name power kind of a thing
like Beyonce, oh shit, you know, move out of the
fucking way kind of power. And now she's like, well,
now that I have that, I can express myself more.
I can you know, have that ability to express that
feminine power inside of me. And I mean in a
personal level, I think that's like a yeah, like in

(01:02:46):
a personal level, not in a like bigger giant scope
wanting to take over the world kind of level. On
a personal level, I think that's that maybe one of
the driving forces for her doing what she's doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I don't think she has a real problem with the
masculine though, and that that carries over and then that
that's what interests me. I think most about this fully
on board with the feminine, but I do feel like
she's got some issue with the masculine as a whole.
Oh you love of course, but I would love to
see that explored more. I would love to see that
air quote's fault being explored because I think that would

(01:03:21):
take her out of the deity status For me, mm hmmm,
it would be something that we all, you know, as
as strong women, as as women who make money and
have a business is I mean, how many of you
have been told that that you know, you're a bossy
and you're a bitch, and you're this, and you're that
for a want.

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Of many these things, you know, speak up and talk
your mind and yeah, yeah, then all of a sudden,
your whrror your bossy, you're a bitch, and nobody likes you.
You just like and I'm like, no.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
This is yeah, I don't want to be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah exactly. I mean the very fact we're talking about this,
you know a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, yeah,
look at these bitches whatever. But I don't know. I
think that would take her down. If she talked about
her relationship more. I mean, that's hard because she's a figure.
But if she talked about the masculine more. And I

(01:04:16):
know this movie was supposed to be about the Lion King,
but I lost the masculine in this completely, you know
what I mean. And I think that's interesting to me.
But that's exactly where now I want to go. I'm like,
what is that shadow? I don't care about this more
in shadow with the snake that you decided was Christianity,
I want to know what the shadow where you hate

(01:04:36):
your husband? What's going on there? Why do you have
a problem with that? That's interesting to me. That makes
you a fallible person, and that makes me love you more.

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
That makes me because it makes her human, she loses her.
It's the same thing with like people that are well,
like we were talking about before that you know, like
they are a power couple and that's why they can't
slit up because if they split up, then all of
a sudden people are like, well, they're not power couples,
so they must have like some faults in there in
the personality in their in their lives. So that's probably

(01:05:08):
why she's not doing it, because it's the not even spiritually,
you know, she'd lose that goddess statue and a stature.
Am I saying that right? I hope I am. She
would also lose like that the fame and the and
the more physical worldly you know, illusion of perfection that
we all are. We all do in social media, let's

(01:05:29):
face it. You know, we're all like, I'm having a
great time even though I'm surrounded by bitches, but it's great. Yeah,
my sisters, my sisters.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
We see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
For me, that's what Lemonade was for me. It was
her coming back down to earth and going through that
whole process of emotion through the affair like that whole
every song, everything was the emotional wave.

Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
Yeah, no, I remember, yeah, most of it. She's like
in one of the songs, she was saying, like you
can have them because I got the like something about
like I have the diamond ring, but you can have
them if you want or something, or or I'm gonna
chip your teeth on my diamond ring or something like that, Like,
and she's talking about the girl and he had an
affair with and saying like, I'm gonna beat the fucking
shit out of you, bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I would do the same freaking thing.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Okay, I would do the same freaking thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah, Eliminate was all about that, I agree, Stephani. Eliminate
was all about the fair and her her initial processing
of the affair. Yeah. And yet I still do believe
that because what I was going to say to what
you said, Heather is maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's
what I'm feeling in this because again I keep feeling

(01:06:45):
that it's something that has nothing to do with the obvious.
Because the obvious is that this is an empowerment piece.
You know, it's an empowerment piece to empower women, to
connect with the darbon feminine, to empower men. Black men's
this is to see themselves as greater than they've been
seeing themselves.

Speaker 6 (01:07:06):
But there's something more than just that empowerment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
And maybe that's it. Maybe it's because like she's still
working through the hate of her husband and what that
does to her own masculine divine masculine and trying to
work through that, and so there's like just some icky
shadow stuff that's shown up there. That's just a part
of the mix, you know. I'm just from what we've
pointed out in this conversation, it definitely doesn't seem like

(01:07:32):
she's really over it. I feel like it's more like
kind of how you were saying, Maria, like this is
what we need to do to maintain our empire.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Yeah, it's almost like the fake it till you make it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I feel a little better about it now, you know,
because it's not at all that I didn't but I'm
and I know, I feel like I feel like I've
come down really hard on it. But it's not I'm
not trying to take away the beauty that it does
have and the powerful activation that is within it for
those things that like, you know, you talks about Evelyn

(01:08:06):
and everybody's pointed out that is it. That's why I mean,
like I said, if you go to like black folk forums,
I mean, folks are just like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Oh my god, I love her so much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
She is Risia. She is said the bad or Risia.
She is the original Arisia. Priests oh my gosh, you
know what I mean, Like they are absolute folks are like,
it's just in love with her. So it absolutely has
activated a strong sense of pride and and it might
be some people's first connection to their divinity, you know,
first connection to their ancestors, which is great. You know,

(01:08:37):
me and one of my good friends we have a phrase.
You know, you can't knock somebody's self improvement. If that's
what's getting them there, awesome, I would like I like,
you know, I said from the very beginning, I was
just curious about the rest of it because the majority
of people watching it and being affected by it and
being activated by it just will have no idea that
there's anything else going on if there is, see, I.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Don't hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
But it did not wow me. I was like, Okay,
that's cool. I'm crying right now. Good, that was a
good ninety minutes. But am I gonna take.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
It with me?

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
And maybe that's because I'm not black, and maybe it's
not for me.

Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
I just got on, Like for me, it was like
a hot black man. Well there were sillveral hot black men,
but there was the one who played the adult lion
King Boy, dear Lord in heaven. That's what I got.
And hmm. The clothing. I love what she wears, especially
all the glittery stuff, like she wears this one like

(01:09:37):
shaw thing that's like just this is like a DreamCatcher.
And I'm like, oh my god, I bought your wardrobe
and that's what. I'm not that flashy, but I'll be
like I'll wear it at home that and it's just
like it was very entertaining. It was very for me.
It was very entertaining. It was very it's very visually beautiful.
It had a very to like as a whole, it

(01:09:59):
had a very beautiful So I didn't really like, I
don't know, like like Heather it. Yeah, it was gorgeous
and beautiful, but it didn't like move me in the
sense of like, you know, my life has changed. I
am a new woman, you know. I was like, yeah,
feminine power.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I was like, oh, it's a not feminine power.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Cool. You know. It was very like ah, yeah, that's
my bread and butter right there.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Yeah cool, you know, like it was. But the thing
is that I think it's because we're so into that,
you know, feminine power and feminine you know, like like
using that that energy that when we see it, we're like, ah,
oh okay, yeah, it's just another day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
That's how I felt about it. Like I wasn't like empowered,
like femininely. I was like cool, another woman taking her
feminine power kick aas good for you, Beyonce. That's literally
what I was feeling. And obviously I'm not black. Obviously
you can't see that because this is audio, right, this
is audio. We're not nobody's gonna see my house. I
hope to God.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Just audio promise.

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
So you know, like I don't. I don't have that,
you know, that experience of you know that black people
have or anything in that nature. So I couldn't take
anything from that, but I could take that it's just
a beautiful piece of art that she did that I
can definitely take from it. It wasn't I didn't feel like, oh,
it's just Beyonce, oh being Beyonce. You know, it wasn't

(01:11:28):
that at all for me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
When I got out of watching it, Like I was
talking about it, like when we were in the chat
talking about it, and I was just like, I don't know,
maybe I had a hard time coming on the podcast
and talking about it because I didn't feel like the
content was for me beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
It is a wonderful story. I made sure my kids
watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I thought it was great, But I as far as
the magic and all that, I'm just not from a
cultural context where I was greatly moved from it, and it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
Just didn't feel like it was for me, and so
I had a hard time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I'm saying I have an opinion about it, like I
can't say if it's good or bad I have, I
have theories I could talk about that. I can't really
say if it's what she's doing is good, what she's
doing is bad, or what exactly is she's doing because
it's not my culture, I guess or my I don't
feel like my prerogative matters.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
It wasn't for me I did. I did find it beautiful,
I found it moving in a way.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Like heathern Rant, It's not going to be something that
I'm going to carry with me a long time. I
didn't really have a big connection to the divine feminine
in it. I guess that's why I've been quiet through
the whole divine feminine talk.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
I didn't. I wasn't impressed by that or that wasn't
the right word. I wasn't. It wasn't impressed on me.
It's probably a better way of saying it. I actually
saw a lot of the divine masculine in it, as
far as maybe a lot of grown men suck, but
we like I saw the divine in the young boy, Like.
I felt that very strongly. I mean, that's just a

(01:12:58):
big part of what I got out.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Of it that will stick with me. But that was
probably the only part of it that was actually I
wonder that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Because I have a little boy about the age the
little boy in the movie, and I felt I felt
that very deeply. I don't know why the divine fem
like what bothers me about is you guys are.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Talking about divine feminists and that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
And I didn't like I saw it, but I was
just like, oh, okay, that's what she's doing.

Speaker 7 (01:13:22):
Yeah, that's that's how it was for me. I was like, oh, cool, yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Think you did there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
But whatever, it was very good.

Speaker 7 (01:13:30):
I did see the masculine in the in the boy though,
that's the only that's the only real place that I
saw it. And also that the the other players in
the story were mainly men, if you noticed, so they
had like star, which for me was I had like
so much energy from him. And if you notice, because
I just remembered, there's a scene where Beyonce is all

(01:13:52):
wearing white and she looks like she has like a
procession of like in people like like painted white and
everything white. That's all also like I thought of about La,
which is the he's like the first Odisha to ever
be created and he's like the father Odisha and that's
what And there I felt like, well, she embodying like

(01:14:12):
masculine energy there, because that's what At that point, I
was like, I think she's embodling masculine energy. Wait a minute,
because the whole thing is like feminine energy. And then
all of a sudden she's doing that, and I'm like, hmmm,
Like that was the only time that I saw her
doing anything that would be quote unquote masculine energy or
that could be interpreted not that she was, but that

(01:14:33):
could be interpreted as one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I mean, there is definitely a creation story motif happening
here from beginning to end. I mean, come from the stars,
she got the stars song. The baptism is the rebirth,
you know, the the father energy, the mother energy. You know,
she talks about at the end too, So I mean
it's definitely there for sure. But if we're going with

(01:14:58):
the Moses motif, is is she saying that the the
sons our children are going to be, you know, the
the Moses archetypes who lead us out of the like
the next generation is the generation that's going to lead
us out of the the desert kind of thing. You know,
are we partying the red seat here? Or what I

(01:15:20):
wonder about that? You know, is that is that what
she's saying that this next generation of the masculine needs
to be that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Possibly mean I seemed like that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah, she's telling.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
Like energy wise, I don't think she's asking permission to
make it happen or asking these young women to step up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I think she's making it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yeah, I get that too. You know, I have four boys,
so seeing from my experience how men have been and
really wanting my kids to step into that divine masculine
too and just not be like their dad. Like, I
totally get that from her because you know, Lemonade did
have a big emotional response for me because my story

(01:16:05):
is very similar. So I did get I think a
lot more from that album than I did from this creation,
because with Lemonade, I did listen to it a lot
and I did ride that emotional wave with her. This
it's pretty I like it. I did have a response,
I did have an activation. For me, it was more
the symbolism than the actual story.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
But I know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
The story she's telling with the boys and having them
step into the divine masculine and having that activation for that,
and by invoking all of these different deities to bring
power to that, to make it happen, and to have
those boys activated so they are becoming that. Like, I
totally get that, and I think that is a lot

(01:16:51):
to it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
The intention behind it. Maybe is it sincere? Is it
because of what's going on in the world and is
time for them to step up and have that power?

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
And because with that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
I don't know if you guys noticed, but I noticed
there towards the end, there is this battle scene where
this African is painted and he's in red and then
he's fighting the blue guy, the blue bud. So I mean,
and that goes back to Samerian.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Right there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
You've got the black haired red men, and you've got
the Anonachy or the blue Bloods, that are taking over
and taking power. So there's this you know, fighting back
and standing up and taking their power. There's definitely that there.
But what's the intention? Is it because she hates her

(01:17:50):
husband and she knows it the way that men have
been and so she's pushing that intention or is it
just because it's time and there is a turning of
the season and you know this is like the prediction
and pushing for that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Going back to what Leah said though, is that the spell?
Is that what's really happening here is like we're we're
gonna make this shit happen. We're gonna take everything from
the history and we're gonna move this shit forward. Is
that what she's doing? Is this just one? Is this
like a ninety minute spell activation? So what this is

(01:18:27):
is we watch it and we think about this, and
that activates the DNA and all of us to make
that happen. Are we just part of this?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
I think that is the question. I mean, it makes
me feel a little bit better if that's the intent.
If the intent is is that, then I feel better
about it, you know. But I definitely think it's a
spell of some sort for sure. And our conversation has
come definitely helped me to feel better about what that

(01:18:56):
spell is, what that cell could be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Are we part of like a group's spell? Is this
like a group activation?

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
It's definitely a group activation, Like there's no question about it.

Speaker 7 (01:19:06):
I mean, if you just watch the way that she
does the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Video and she cuts the scenes, you know, is she
is activating something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
And like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I know, when I went through it, I noticed, like,
you know, she goes to this more of like a
home movie type of visual and to me, that's more
like tapping into the unconscious and tapping into your you know,
your DNA, your roots, you know. And it might be
just a picture of her holding a baby and showing

(01:19:45):
that divine feminine and that motherly instinct. It may be
something like that. That's the one that comes to mind,
But there are several places where she's doing that where she's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I'm glad you pointed that out because I was wondering
about what that was and I about the subconscious.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what I got. Even watching it
without any sound or any words and just paying attention
to the visuals. All of those are activating your subconscious
and bringing you back to you know, whether that's your
DNA or your star ced lineage, you know, whatever that

(01:20:23):
is that she's wanting to invoke.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Did you want to figure out what the blue guy is?
Who the blue guy is? He's throughout the whole thing,
from the beginning to end. I read about it and
someone said it was the subconscious And there's this one
scene where she's in red and he's in blue and
they're standing and the car goes by in the desert,
and I was like, are you sure that's his subconscious
or is that like the Jimminy Cricket character, Like is

(01:20:50):
he the conscience?

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
I got through it by the middle of it. I
was thinking maybe that was his ancestor guide, you know,
like the like kind of how the and I don't
remember the monkey's name in the Lion King, but like
it wasn't the monkey the one that was kind of
like the guide for Simba say it again, Okay, yeah,

(01:21:18):
So I kind of felt like maybe he was playing
that role, but like in an ancestor way, so he
was like a spirit guide.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I thought he was the higher fan I like to
like with the star and the moon, and like that's
what I thought. I thought he was the higher fan
or that that archetype, so.

Speaker 7 (01:21:39):
Basically the guide, the wise person that guides him along
the path. I kept thinking about, like type of blue
but still blue. It's an an an Indian god. I
forgot which one it is. I think, is it Collie?

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I remember?

Speaker 7 (01:21:55):
No, not Collie. When I'm talking about Collie is a female.
But she's blue skin too, I think is she oh man?

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Remember?

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
But yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
So I was like, is she like does she have
like Krishna here or is it like because the blue skin,
That's the only thing could think of. But the whole
entire video was like who is this blue guy? Like
why is God's true?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Maybe? And she like her ancestors like whoever?

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Yeah, that That's what I was saying about the symbolism,
Like why was he blue? Why did they have on
the skeleton costumes or you know, bodysuits. Why did they
have one those brown ones with the white circles and
all those kind of things. Why were those things on
the motorcycle the people on the motorcycle, why were they
like in mass that covered their entire faces. There was

(01:22:47):
a couple of other ones that had masks that covered
their entire faces, you know, and that was part of
the scene. Where she was like, I'm empowered woman. But
that was also the scene that was like we're obviously
the adult symbol was being tempted by I guess pixies
on a car that had the shimmery costumes on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Yeah, so I saw those mores like a siren, yeah, sirens? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I couldn't think of the right words. Pixies are nice,
syrons are trying to get you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Yeah, which would be another simple for taking you off
of your journey.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
But this has been an awesome conversation, Like I feel
like it's been great for me, So thank you ladies.
For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
I don't know if we ever.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Got to the bottom of the question, but there's definitely
a lot of information coming together. Is there a continuation
in the story? Is this just one part or is
that the whole spell?

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
Yeah, that's a good question too.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
It would lemonade part of it, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
You go from lemonade to black is king? What's next?

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
What's next?

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
There's this right, we need to call her up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
I'll call her on the.

Speaker 7 (01:24:06):
No which friend, What are you girl? What the hell
is going on here? Like we need to know, like.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
I'll my very and you blink twice for yes, there
we go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
There we go once.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
If it's a yes, cough twice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
If it's a no, well she's got us talking. And
that this is I mean right, that's art right there,
that's beauty right there, that's everything. Suddenly we care about Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
True indeed, true, indeed, exactly so, on some level, she
achieved her goal on some level, right,

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