Spirits, Scandals, and Thoughtforms – An Investigation of the Fee House - NVus Alien

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the NVS Alien Podcast with your host,
Heather Woodward, an award winning SAGIG supernatural author and lover
of all things true crime. On this show, we're going
to deep dive into topics so don't usually see the
light of day, the spooky, the weird, the macabre, the paranormal,
and of course aliens. Sit back, grab a cup of tea,

(00:20):
and let's get on with the show.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Last year we investigated the Fea House. It was me,
This is Heather, by the way, Stephanie, and Buck. You
are going to hear about our experiences, and then throughout
the podcast you're going to hear a stippits of some
EGP session, some TARO readings that we did, some sd sessions,

(00:50):
stuff like that. You're going to hear some space, and
then it'll move into the evidence collection, and then it'll
come back out back into the narrative that we were explaining.
I tried to even out the audio as much as possible,
but you gotta remember we are recording in an empty house,

(01:15):
so there's a lot of echo and there's a lot
of movement because you can hear everything. I apologize and
advanced for some of the audio quality because I did
the best I could. Like I said, the Fea House
is in Little Rock, Arkansas. I guess I would be
considered a mansion, but it's just a big old house. Basically.
It's in the Mansion historical district and there's a lot

(01:36):
of historical buildings in that same area, so it's a
mix between two different worlds, old and new. There's also
a major street that goes down this area. The house
was built around eighteen ninety two by Sebastian Virgil Haffer

(01:57):
I think haf R, and then it was purchased by E. B.
Pearce and his family in nineteen oh six. In nineteen
oh seven it was sold to the Fees. Now the
Fees lived there for almost twenty years, I believe, or
something very close to that. He was a manufacturer of

(02:18):
hardwood lumber. He lived there with Frank Junior, Catherine Edward.
Those are his two children, Thomas and Patricia, and then Mamy,
which was his wife. Three of the children were from
his first marriage, maybe was the second marriage. Thomas and

(02:39):
Patricia were the two kids that came out of that marriage.
How Frank and Maymi got together is that they actually
had an affair they were still married to other people.
Maymie was very much about appearances, even though she cheated

(02:59):
on her he Basically, according to her grand daughter, she
had very small feet. Isn't she always get dressed well?
And she she went to church and all those things. Like. Now,
their child, Thomas, was potentially fathered by a servant. There's
a lot of speculation about Thomas because he doesn't look
like any of the children. They might have not been

(03:21):
an up and up situation. Let's just put it that way.
So you're gonna hear about specifically in the podcast. Now,
there's a whole bunch of accidental air quotes deaths that
happened in this family. Frank died of a heart attack.
That's not really regular death, but it's regular enough where
it's not a weird situation. Now Catherine, on the other hand,

(03:43):
she died in a really weird way. She drank poison,
and there's just a lot of words speculation around that too.
According to newspapers, it says that she drank poisoned by mistake.
She had a headache and her husband and her two
brothers were playing cards downstairs and she accidentally drank poison
instead of drinking a headache medicine, but then there also

(04:07):
recounts that there was arguing and that she was very
upset and she went upstairs and did a thing. It
could be accidental death, but it also could be suicide,
so we don't know. There's a lot of speculation about
that on the podcast, so we'll let you decide. The
big death in the family is Maimi. Actually, there's just

(04:28):
a lot of residual energy around this, and people pick
up on this all the time, and there's actually Mamie's
ram which is on the second floor, and on the
second floor there is still this energy and there is
this sense of fire, and we're gonna talk about fire
a lot in the podcast as well. But she was
in her night gown drawing her hair over the stove
and her gown caught fire and she rolled around in

(04:49):
a blanket to smallther the flangs, and she was burned,
but she didn't want to spoil Edward's marriage plans, and
so she just covered it up, and then after the
wedding she had to go to the hospital with the burns,
but by then it was too late and she died.
She was basically hoping that it would just go away
and that the burns would kill itself. That is a

(05:10):
little weird. I'm not gonna lie. There's just a lot
of weird things that happen in this house. And then
after the Fees, it was owned by a woman who
had it for forty something years. She rented all the
rooms basically, so became like a boarding house. During that time,
somebody fell down the stairs and broke their neck, so
there's a lot of weirdness around the stairs. And yeah,

(05:33):
it is a little strange. The stairs are like, ooh,
I don't want to sit on the stairs, become afraid
I'm gonna fall. But since then it's been owned by
this man named Drew and he's been working on it
and fixing it up, and also he lets people investigate it.
We'll put all the information about how to get in
touch with Drew to investigate the Fee House in the
show notes. If you are interested, I think that's all

(05:53):
you need to know about this episode. And so without
further ado, we're gonna go right into it. Rex message
because he had a really strange night at the house
and he went on this long entire rade about all
the things that happened there, and they had a really
active night as far as a negative entity amusing airports

(06:16):
with that?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, when was it? Like, when did he go? He
was in Jeru you.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
He went on after the fire Kinderspirus was there, and
then he went a few weeks after that he went
and he had all these weird things happened. Basically, it
was a quiet night and he couldn't have that, so
he started provoking. And when he started provoking, things started happening.
It became really negative really fast. But then that could

(06:45):
have been some of the people that were there. A
chief and sascerbated. He messaged us and then he called
us because he wanted us to look at the footage
that was really weird. And then he ended up taking
an entity for a touchment or a negative something called
and then his life for like about a month was
really funky, and then he asked us to go investigate.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, he was really freaked out when he called us
and we had that little group chat. He didn't know
what was going on.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Did he say that he felt like he got pushed
down the stairs. He felt like he was going to
give be pushed on the stairs. Yeah, OK, but that
something was going to happen on the stairs okay, and
then most of the footage that he brought back ended
up being debunked.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
They's supposed to be at his spades that he taught.
Nobody was there, and then they're looking at the video
and there's his face that pops up very clear, but
they're like, oh, it wasn't anybody there. And then later
they're like, oh, yeah, we slowed the video down and
it turned out to be actually one of the people there.
They thought they had captured this weird video. We got
the video and we were like, well, that's not supposed

(08:00):
to be there. That is very clearly shocking to us
to think that was not somebody that was there, or
you just messing with the camera or turning the camera
or checking the camera. At some point they got themselves
in the video.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
There were some lights and some movements and stuff. For
three real some careful debunking, we realized that it was
just lights.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was the way the glass is shaped.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, the way that the stained glasses should do the feahouse.
It would make those shapes.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It had historic the light and remove the yeah, creates
some weird facts.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Shadow facts. Homember be actual whatever was going on his
house was not debunked.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
After we talked to him, we had our own conversation
and we really felt like something had shifted in the
house and we needed to go back and investigate that.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
But we didn't know what had shifted.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Or why the house or something else wanted us to
come back and investigate there.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Again, I did feel like the house wanted us back,
and I'm still not really sure why. It felt like
it was being orchestrated for some days, especially since he
wanted us to go, and then he didn't show up
good up not going because he was afraid of the
house until it was deflated for an experience, how's a
change this is? With that, we went shew Little Rock

(09:24):
to go investigate the Fee house, and we first went
to Rex's house and then what happened at Rex's house.
That was my first time there, so I didn't have
a control to go off of, but when we went in,
it was super intense. It was almost like Rex and
his wife had.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Been arguing or somebody was super pissed off that we
were there.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
It was just off.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
It was not a welcoming environment when we walked in.
I had been there before, I've been there the first
time we investigate the feed house. I had gone to
his house to pick up sent his equipment, and he's
like the most chill person and his house is super chill.
There's like dogs and animals. It's like going to rigal
like your mom's house, or something is made.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You want some food? Do you want this? You want that?
Keep that cond of person. It's very relaxing. I was
surprised at how it just felt like you could taste
the air almost. It was so uncomfortable sitting down.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
He's out in the woods and there's a lot of
isolation out there. I know that he doesn't have a
neighbor that he can see from his property. It's easy
to get spooked in that sort of situation where you
don't have a lot of maybe other people over there
or other people in that high environment. There was it

(10:46):
levels of paranoia mixed with its isolation is going into
the environment. Once we got in the house, he seems
pretty timid or upset or like shaken. I guess whenever
we got in there, he didn't seem like he was
very confident or oden.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
He's usually he's a very copied, go getter kind of guy.
When we ran into him at the Crescent. That was
not the same person. He was very talkative and he
had a lot to say. He was really open and inclusive,
and when we were at his house, it was almost

(11:26):
like he was out of his element.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
He didn't know what to do. He was just awkward.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't know how else to describe it. There was
something off with him. From the other times that we
talked to him.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
He was very discrematic. He didn't seem like he was
in a very good place.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
He said he was having nightmares about weird things. I
don't want to give you any details, but he was
like they've been arguing more than usual, and there was
just a lot of stress. It was just really weird
going into the house because again I had been in
the house before and it just was not the same.
So just the energy was so different. It was so heavy.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
When we got in, it was like, Okay, we're here,
now what There was like no real guidance.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
He was just out of it.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
He didn't even know what to say or where to start.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
He was just awkwardly talking when we first got there.
And are other interactions because I investigated him at the
feat house.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
He's very assertive. He's not aggressive he's assertive though he's
very much in his element. He's very confident about what
he does, about his life, about who he is as
a person.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
He had a very confident demean her. He asked us
to do what house clearing or did get rid of
whatever was in the house.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
We were talking in the living room and you saw something.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And it's also we had the corner of my eye. I
was like, are there is something here? I can't tell
you what it was. It wasn't a demon. I'm gonna
say that right out in front. It's not as an
gramatic force by any such of the imagination. It was
just something creeped out from around the kitchen and was, hey,
what's up? Like I see you see me? You're dealing

(13:13):
with something stupid. It was either a minor attachment or
some kind of tricks or energy. It could even be fake,
who knows, but it didn't really had that feel. And
you did for dousing and what did you get?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
At first, I was really having a hard time connecting
the because I just felt off too, and I was
using the dousing grounds but not really. I was mostly
just using my own intuition and my feelings. As I
walked back through the kitchen. There's a little hallway where
some other bedrooms are, and as I turned the corner

(13:46):
and looked into this room, I was like, oh, okay,
there's something in there.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And as I walked into the room, the energy shifted.
It was even heavier that there and it was off.
I'm like, okay, whatever is here is back in this room.
He told us it was a spare bedroom, and that's
something that is really common and on applications or even

(14:15):
if you're living in an unconted house, one of the
ways that you can keep ghosts out of your house
is to use all the rooms. If you don't use
a room, then it's white of your energy, and therefore
whatever wants to hang out in there will When I've
done any kind of investigation work with like entities or
does it called intelligent hauntings, it's always the spare bedroom,

(14:39):
or it's always the bedroom that nobody uses. And then
the more that energy goes into that room, the less
they use that rooms. Almost like you're just taking up
a huge amount of space for no reason that makes
sense that it would be the spare bedroom.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
He also said that he was going back there to
sleep occasionally. I'm sure, that doesn't help his nightmares.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We ended up doing the three or four part house clearing.
His wife didn't know what to think of us.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
She was a little questionable at first because she doesn't
believe in any of this, But I think her mind
might have changed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Definitely, would you say that under virus changed bo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
She was going around and help let him out too.
I think that Pasikua was able to relate to some
of the things very dark in the middle.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
It was definitely a team building exercise. He bailed halfway through,
but he didn't want to have anything to do with it,
and then we took him through some exercises to get
more clearing done. But afterwards she said that the house
was really light, And then the next day he said
it was one of the first sings that they had
actually gotten along and nothing happened, and they felt really good,

(15:45):
and he slept like twelve or thirteen hours straight through
and didn't have any kind of nightmares. While there was
sea wall fact or whether something was really in their house,
it doesn't really matter in his mind. He felt better.
The amount of clearing that we did. I would be
very surprised if anything even attached to that house at
this point, So yeah, for us.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
And like his personal touch, we had recommended twenty third songs,
and he couldn't really keep that in mind. He developed
his own technique, in his own phrase, in.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
The name of Jesus, get the fuck outs. I was like, okay,
so on twenty three are that works too?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Hopefully he'll get back out and do somewhere investigating and
I want him to be afraid of it.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
After that, we did the dream Machine and we did
some sds.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Good, what can you tell us about the fe house history?

Speaker 6 (16:55):
If you're.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Alright, you can handle it.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
You need to take.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Where you need to take with us. Where're gonna have
you see?

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Nay, we need to take pictures of what we see.
The pearl, the pearl. Wait a minute, somebody's laughing.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Not pearl.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
You know that that that's a I know what that is.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Now, kay die?

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Do you want me to post the pearl stuff? But
what does it have to do with the Feehouse? And
they don't see there, they.

Speaker 9 (18:01):
Don't see there. I just like, no, is something going
on with the feed house? You don't you don't, Okay,
we don't want is it a portal?

Speaker 8 (18:16):
I got.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Tell me what's going on with the fea house? Walk
in place?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (18:39):
Damn, it's yeah, it's all stuck right, the energy stuck.
Everybody stuck?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Oh gel vata follow?

Speaker 10 (18:52):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Baby? The baby again? Where's the baby?

Speaker 8 (18:59):
Now?

Speaker 6 (19:00):
What sex?

Speaker 11 (19:04):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (19:04):
It was a bus shaw? No sex in your violence?

Speaker 8 (19:11):
Was there a baby that was brown?

Speaker 10 (19:14):
Travel I.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Country? Two people to the same people that the same makeshift?
Did somebody have a baby there that wasn't.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Supposed to have a baby?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Eat me afraid? Did someone get pregnant that wasn't supposed
to be pregnant? Zero point five? Okay, backdrop?

Speaker 8 (19:54):
Are you talking about the feet house to the Lizzie
Boarden House?

Speaker 6 (20:00):
You shouldn't, don't.

Speaker 13 (20:17):
East Coast, that's the playoffs, that's the Lizzie Bordon House.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Hm.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Why is that coming into this?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Hm? What was the station line? Right across the nation?

Speaker 14 (20:32):
So California, California, go down.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
That California?

Speaker 8 (20:43):
You like Hollywood?

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Do you believe hater's haters? I was born? Hi? Where

(21:05):
were you born? Did you hear that? But? Where were
you born? I came too far.

Speaker 14 (21:20):
There's a lot of like piano music like that keeps
coming in and out.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
It's just like a couple of notes. Who's playing kettle?

Speaker 14 (21:31):
I think I'm gonna be high changes?

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Who could be?

Speaker 15 (21:47):
Who could you be?

Speaker 16 (21:47):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Who is this?

Speaker 8 (21:53):
No idea?

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Do you have a name?

Speaker 8 (22:05):
Uh? Are we talking of her? Are we talking to
the baby? Or are we talking to the mall?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
If you could, we could talk till.

Speaker 8 (22:24):
Who did you kill?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Jackson Hole? Who's Jackson?

Speaker 5 (22:34):
That's in Wyoming?

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Jackson's in Wyoming? Oh that was like jacks.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's a town, it's now and it sits in an
old town.

Speaker 12 (22:51):
That's a thousand linescu resort today they.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Get went through excuse resort.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I've been there. Oh it's right by yellows.

Speaker 17 (23:00):
No, listen, you listen.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
M something one thousand people got fifth store? Fifth store?
Can I get?

Speaker 10 (23:23):
What?

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Do you want.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
My life?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
You want your life back today?

Speaker 8 (23:48):
You want your life back to day?

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Like I beat the third species in the book.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
The book book.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Checkers the game book. If I consider, what do you consider?
I like to talk about it?

Speaker 18 (24:23):
Who members only more than second comments?

Speaker 8 (24:38):
So we need to have a memory surround my neck.

Speaker 13 (24:43):
We need to have a a conversation with members only.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
What's the piece around your neck?

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Right now, we have to have a conversation. Who do
you wanna have a conversation about?

Speaker 6 (25:13):
You know it works, so what works?

Speaker 19 (25:19):
What works?

Speaker 8 (25:21):
M Who are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (25:28):
The times committed? Oh jeez?

Speaker 8 (25:31):
But who are we talking to?

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Same period, same period of time as what when I've
got sat? Oh that day?

Speaker 5 (25:52):
What day?

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Positive?

Speaker 17 (25:56):
I swear?

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Please don't I.

Speaker 20 (26:01):
We're here?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
What did you think of the dream machine, Stephanie? It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I think the first couple of sessions I did, it
wasn't on the full rotation. It wasn't quite fast enough.
I think it would have been faster. I would have
gotten more images. The first time I really didn't get anything,
but that was my first try.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So then I put in.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Headphones and had binaral beads going while I watched.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
It, and I had asked, like, why are we here?
What are we doing? At the sea house? And I
saw I was going upsteps like I was going upstairs,
and then immediately I was either on the outside of
the house upstairs or like maybe looking out of the window.

(26:53):
But I just saw the outside of the house and
the ground under me like it was on the upper floor,
and it was confusing to me.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I didn't know what that meant. So we just kept
that in our minds because it wasn't like somebody was
following to their death or anything like that. It was
just this image of looking out the window. But that
was about all I got from just the dream Machine
by itself.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And what did you think of doing SDS with the
dream Machine? Was it too much? Was it too little?
What was the experience like? That was my first time
doing SD's, so I was already trying to focus on
the words and how SD's works, But then I also
had the dream Machine going, and it was just a
little bit too much.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Now, maybe if I was more comfortable with one or
the other, I would be able to do both. But
I was so focused on the words that I really
didn't even pay attention to what was going on with
the dream Machine.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I've done Seu's a lot and I've done the dream
Machine a lot, and the two together is really too fast.
Sometimes it goes so that's like when you're open you
used to it, or I can't. Maybe somebody else could
do it, but I can't keep up. We just spread
that way. It just opens you up. So quick, and
the constant flippering keeps you in that tramp state, and

(28:12):
then the constant sound of the spirit pros together is
it's just a rush to your I don't know psychic system.
You've done it, what do you make up it?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I have not done the SD than the the s's
cutting in and out. Just really it's a lot for me.
And at the time when we were doing I wasn't
feeling good. I hang my headaches. But the dream machine works.
Like after she had her vision of the Fea House,
I came in from outside, and y'all we're talking about
what she was experiencing. I went up to the dream

(28:47):
machine and I had a similar vision like I was
in the feat House. I was sitting at this long
table with an ashtray there. My perspective moved forward through
the table and around the former and I felt like
there was something going up, like a stairway going up well,
and I could see down to like a door. And
it was weird because whenever I got in the fee House,

(29:10):
I could see right where I was sitting. There's one
table in there, and I was there at that table
and it looked just like I was whenever I was
there in the dream machine, just like the vision I had,
and even going up and looking around. So that was
really weird having visions perviditions of the actual fee outs

(29:30):
before going there, And it definitely piques my curiosity of
what else the dream machine is capable of doing if
you're in that mindset. Like she was talking about her
vision in the Fea house and then I stepped into
a vision of the fee house too. Maybe we're trying
to figure out how to get the most out of
our dream machine, how to use it. It's a great

(29:50):
journeying tool, that flicker effect, and it's really intense. What's
what's he getting used to it? It becomes a little
more usable.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
I did have another vision and I forgot about this,
so after I saw out the window, I did have
another image of a different house. It was an older house.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I describe it as maybe like the Frankloid RTE era.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
It was very similar to that, but it wasn't Frankloid right,
we looked at some houses, but it was large, it
had the big patio, and.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
It was brick.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
It was red brick, multiple stories and the house is
very familiar to me, but I don't know what house
it is or where it's located.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But we were outside and I was trying to go
inside or move so I could get more information, but
I couldn't go anywhere. It was just a static image
of a house. I'm sure you fully were an injury,
probably like, oh, well, go up to it and be
like wait a minute, Yeah, it does have a The
flickering lights to me, I don't know. The dam machine
to me is confusing. I don't know why the STU

(31:00):
doesn't bother me so much. Maybe because I'm just used
to spear boxes. My brain is, but you in a
spare boxes like the dive noise doesn't it. I can
tune it right up. For some reason. The flickering of
the light really gets to you a little bit. I
haven't turned with funereal beats, and you try with venaio
beats and work better. My brain needs that distraction. But

(31:22):
it's definitely something that you could do a lot with
you you can figure out the right formula for it.
We did try it with the pyramid and without the pyramid.
With the cupper pyramid. It does enhance the effects of
it for sure. When we did it before the THEEA house,
we brought the perramoid with us, because if you sit
in the pyramid, it does change that's low, it makes

(31:44):
it more enhance. The energy is structured, that's definitely focused.
It cones it or something I don't love. It's easier.
I notice when I'm in the pyramid with the dream regime,
it definitely everything is a little more clear. The brain
machine is a pair of sunglasses that you put on
and it look, there's lights in your eyes and then

(32:07):
by year old beasts in your ears. At this it's
like trying to enhance your senses so that you're open up.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
What about our ST's sessions? There was some information that
came out that was relevant to the fee House.

Speaker 21 (32:25):
Yes, talk about the happy.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Are you happy to talk?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
It said, whoa pyramids? Yes, there's a pyramid.

Speaker 22 (32:52):
You're the one, support them, support who.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
I'll be a nice guy.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Body warning. Something about power Bachelor.

Speaker 23 (33:16):
What can you tell me about mister sebast There isn't
no nothing to say about Sebastian. Please repeat. I want
to know about Sebastian.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
That built a fine house. What can you tell me
about him? Something's more interesting? Something about a goldfish. I
don't understand. Somebody yelling I don't know. That was weird.
Somebody was yelling.

Speaker 20 (33:49):
Okay, so this is not on the this is not
on the on the thing.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
But there's like a man yelling in the background or
something like that, and he's yelling uhs, something about God.

Speaker 13 (34:04):
There's like somebody very religious, something about God.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Max. Here's Max.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Max?

Speaker 8 (34:18):
When you have to tell us about the bee house?

Speaker 24 (34:23):
He liked that.

Speaker 6 (34:24):
He said he was a man.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
It's okay. Are you talking about the guy who built
the bee house? Are you talking about the way? Yeah,
we're talking about the beef.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
I'm an easy guy. Vinyl nineteen forty five. He died
in nineteen forty five.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Where were about.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
Or he's from nineteen forty five?

Speaker 17 (34:53):
Right?

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Mm, something's going on Tom?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Okay Tom, what happened to Max?

Speaker 10 (35:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (35:02):
He's here this time?

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Max is here this story?

Speaker 25 (35:06):
Yeah, polar Yeah, Twitch, I am so confused up something
about being confused. Yeah, we're confused. Can you clear things
up for us?

Speaker 6 (35:27):
That's we all?

Speaker 20 (35:28):
Something about praise God again, here's something about God.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
Don't what do that?

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Can you walk to that?

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Mommy?

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Hm?

Speaker 10 (35:41):
Does this come with a screaming lady baby a baby?

Speaker 17 (35:49):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Was she giving child birth? The screaming, lady, give a.

Speaker 26 (35:53):
Child low something low low by like Rosemary's baby.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
In a shoot.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Or shoot article.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I believe you have ext your time. Okay, so this
is what is for the boys?

Speaker 5 (36:25):
What boys Tom and Max.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
Together like you hm?

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (36:36):
One way, something about painters painting?

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Were they painting the house? Is that what I saw
on point or going to go point? Okay?

Speaker 8 (36:53):
So what I saw was people painting the feet house.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Could be the the father of the child out right,
the illegitimate child.

Speaker 8 (37:05):
Now well, I have something about pounds like money. Pounds
were good to go like a transaction.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
No cause, when I was in here earlier, if.

Speaker 27 (37:15):
Somebody's British, I had a.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Talking to somebody British. I don't know it changed somebody else.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Okay, so another ah, it is it pierced?

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I saw like walking up.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Steves and then my body like the outside.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Of the house like I was upstairs, either like cooking
out the window.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
Or on the side or looking down.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
This is just an observation.

Speaker 22 (37:38):
But before the light was like red and pink, and
when I said it's British, the light changed to blue.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
So like a different energy came in.

Speaker 27 (37:49):
Swirl, Who's Peabody, mister Peabody, study grilled cheese, maybe.

Speaker 17 (38:02):
Peers you like most?

Speaker 5 (38:05):
What up eb years.

Speaker 10 (38:11):
Is this?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Mister Piers?

Speaker 22 (38:15):
Hoopla kay get your magic cake.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
It's still max.

Speaker 20 (38:27):
Magic cape fourteen fourteen legs, fourteen legs.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
That what's that.

Speaker 24 (38:45):
Was?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Mister Piers and Mason also some not as much as
not as high a ranking as Mr p. Uh. I'm
in California. I'm forty eight.

Speaker 24 (39:04):
I died.

Speaker 28 (39:07):
Something with a heart attack. Mister Fi had a hearty dangerous.
It's dangerous. Mr p is dangerous dying and a family
was dying.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
You know, I was seeing a house. Tell me about
the house that they're seeing? Huge?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Huge, the pea house huge?

Speaker 29 (39:38):
Where is it.

Speaker 15 (39:45):
Have to be completely over?

Speaker 7 (39:49):
You do that?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
What is that?

Speaker 17 (39:51):
Uh?

Speaker 27 (39:52):
Something about standing in front of it?

Speaker 6 (39:56):
The banjo? The ball they haven't good and bad? Calm
with the show.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
Elect elect somebody.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
There's like an election.

Speaker 22 (40:13):
Someone. Okay, I'll let I'll elect myself. Fill out with
the application. I so go to the gym.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
Calm down, okay the lights, oh like, calm down the lights.

Speaker 22 (40:37):
Nineteen sixty nine, I'm the one.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
You're the one.

Speaker 20 (40:43):
What somebody stuttered? Like the there's Arkansas.

Speaker 22 (40:55):
It didn't, could you please, I stuttered, no, we're not
going to put it in your call, hot bagged and

(41:16):
ready for pick up. Listen to the country station.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
What will the country station tell us? Don't make me?
Nineteen sixty nine? Again, what happened in nineteen sixty nine?
Especially pumpkins?

Speaker 8 (41:42):
Okay, that's no someone.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Seventeen seventy honor it.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Those Halloween.

Speaker 8 (41:53):
Maybe it was Halloween Halloween nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 30 (41:57):
Wow, Oh did they do something because this is like
a super religious person late at night?

Speaker 31 (42:08):
Yeah, does somebody do something on Halloween?

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Screw everything up?

Speaker 8 (42:14):
Get an exclusive offer, make sure it's not effective.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
All right now, I'm.

Speaker 8 (42:26):
Seeing fire and forget about it.

Speaker 13 (42:28):
By the way, I was okay, I didn't die, So
think about catfish.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
I was treated badly. Hm quarter quarter something, m HM.

Speaker 12 (42:52):
Do some sort of.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
At first, it wasn't making much sense. I'm like, I
am so confused, And then you said something about confused.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I'm like, yeah, exactly, So then I think it started
to slow down a little bit. But there was definitely
multiple people coming through.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Did we hear Max and Tom?

Speaker 32 (43:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
One of the people was Max.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
And then when you had changed I think you had said, Tom.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I remember in the very beginning, I was talking to
three different people at once, so the messages might not
have been very clear because they were talking over each other.
And I was like, ohay, wait, what is going on here?
Why are you all cooing? Used zero deck. At first,
I wasn't chirp. It was just one person talking a lot,
or if I had different energies. But definitely I could
feel the energy ship. It's weird because the dream machine

(43:47):
was flickering, and so if I was talking to wack
person red blue, if I was talking another person, it
would be white. So the colors were actually changing with
the energy of the person. And that's how I figured
it out there was three different people because the color
would changed. So Tom was blue and that's why I
picked up Tom and Max was the yellow and the
third person. I don't know who it was, but how

(44:10):
I can tell who was speaking? Now Tom is in
the house Max. When we watched a show with someone
named Max in.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It, the Legend of nineteen.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Hundred, the storyteller's name was Max.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
The house number is nineteen hundred, buddy. It was a
movie that I asked her if she had seen a
while ago. Because I like good stories and it's a
good storyteller movie. It has interesting characters in it. Number
whenever we first got there, it's like nineteen hundred hunk,
but we thought Tom might be that Tom from one

(44:45):
of the kids, one of the Fee's kids played to
Ben because there's a top and hair.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It was a few mobs, what did you get in yours?
And says something about radio or the radio. That's right,
you kept talking about it the radio. We need to
talk about it more. We need to blast it out
into the world. When you're in this cool message about
putting it out there more.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And it was the pearl, right, It was the pearl.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
That was that really freaked me out because nobody knows
about the pearl. And then you're like, you need to
talk about the pearl. And then I asked, are you
talking about the pearl what I'm thinking of? And you
said yes, And I was like, okay, now, old you
were like right off of a fit and you're like,
do it now, and I was like, what, Like it
was too it lined up a little too.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
There's sometime on energy bockage or damn or something.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yes, the damn, the energy blockage. So the pearl insperment
is something that I did thirteen fourteen years ago, and
I created a thought form in a haunted location and
then actually it turned into a ghost. But the damn
is interesting because you said there was an energy blockage right,
which goes back to Zainesville. Because when we were in

(46:00):
Zanesville with Josh, one of our co hosts, and we
were we went to Zanesville. It was like a thirteen
hour drive to get him a dog. We handed in
the dog, but we also went to what are those
things cold again? With the water lipst locks. We went
to these locks because it was part of that canal

(46:22):
system here a canal, and so there's all these locks
there and we ended up at the of course, the
eleventh lock. We were talking about how it felt like
there was an energy block and we couldn't get through
the energy block, and then all this stuff about salmon
showed up and we were like, okay, wait, are we
supposed to be going upstream or downstream? Are we supposed

(46:43):
to be going down downstream with the flow of the water,
or are we supposed to going upstream like this salmon
we have Remember, we have this full conversation about that
and about the dam and how the energy was damned.
It's interesting that you brought that up again. Yeah, it
seems like the.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Whole weekend was a lot of revisiting things from the past.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
We're talking about the energy block, and then I was like,
why are we going back there? Why are we going
back to things that that happened a while ago. Why
are we being pulled back into that energy again. It's
almost like we were I mean to redirect the energy
or something which makes sense nothing, it's a huge butt

(47:27):
in Kovo would happen later. And then the radio thing,
we're still trying to figure that one out. Yeah, the
RD figure it out.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
We're trying to figure out this radio thing because I
was I said it and there's no radios in the
sea house because we looked. But we got home and
I had sent pictures of the outside of the house
to my son.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
And he said, this is really weird because he and
my mom.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Were just talking about ghosts and hauntings, which I didn't
know then. As part of their conversation, they were talking
about my mom having this experience where her radio would
turn on in the middle of the night for no reason,
and it hasn't happened in a while. She thought it
was my grandpa after he died, and he was like

(48:14):
playing tricks on her, which I think is probably what
it was too, But it was just a little too
mysterious that they were talking about that at the same time.
I was sending the pictures.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Of the Sea House and we're trying to figure out
this radio. So I told her, if it happens again,
remember what song is playing. My grandfather's name is Max.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
My mom's grandpa's Thomas.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
No, really, yeah, so we have te grandfathers coming through,
like two grandfather names. Yes, that's very interesting too. What's
with the grandfather energy or and then one of the
past owners of the sea house last name is Pierce.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
That's my maiden name, so there's a connection there too. Yeah,
so that's really interesting too.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Now, and then what did your son say? He said
he saw somebody on in the other so he was
looking at the pictures and he said, there's somebody and
the top window, and then in the attic window, and
then in the front window on the second floor. I said, no,
the attic, the window he had circled has a curtain there.

(49:28):
I said, you're just seeing the curtain and then in
the second floor that's where the bed is, and there's
a bed that's against that bay window. He said, no,
I see faces, I see people, and he described in
the attic this man.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
He said, he's like a soldier or something like that,
because he's very stern and tall, his short hair, with
a collar, and then there was this gold chain thing
by his neck.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I said, maybe like a pocket watch, because you had
seen what we thought was the with a cockit watch.
And he's maybe, but maybe not. And then I had
been looking on I think it's Haunted Arkansas that has
the Fee House article and there's a picture of fees

(50:17):
father and it's from the Civil War. He's in his
uniform and I sent that to my son. That's how
the collar was.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
So I don't know if that guy is there or
if it's somebody else. And why would his dad be
in the attic at the house, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
We have two names of ground followers and then we
have a grandfather in the attic, so that's a lot
of role ran energy.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Whenever I went to the house, I was getting really
good connection with the original builders abouts, not the Fees,
but the people before the Fees. The people who constructed
it in like their intention, in their purpose that they
were going to leed living in this place, and why
they built it. My I was built aware. It's like
a Victoria management. Really is the intention in there that

(51:07):
was put in there by these people perhaps varied to
such a degree that when the fees lived in there,
And going back to the fees grandfather who was in
the Civil War, I wonder the people who were building
that house, what side of the war were they on
versus the people who inherited that house. How they their

(51:27):
energy moving into that space. I think there's a lot
of residual cacophony created by their lifestyle inside the way
that building is built for like really for kind of ascension,
for making your mind into an elevated state. But the
people who lived in there, the fees that moved in there,

(51:48):
were not aligned with that esthetic or that with that
living like that, and so they created this cannots that
just resounds in that space. That's where it gets the
activity I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
That's the name of Frank ce Swaller. His name was
Thomas said, there's another Thomas Nan literally is a grandfather.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
How many kids that he had?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I don't know it was not too much about him.
It just there's a picture of him.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I tried doing a research on him, and I searched
for Thomas Wesley Fee and all I got was Thomas
Wesley the musician DJ. But if I did Thomas B
I can get a lot of information, like from the
Civil War records, but I.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Don't know which one he was. Then I was trying
to look at his uniform to figure out if I
could tell what part of the services he was in
and narrow it down so I could get more information.
You also said something about California in your estes.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
And I don't know what that is, or I don't
even know why I said it. I don't know if
you were asking questions about it or not.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, we weren't. You just started talking about going west
and California.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
And they asked this section before we went to the
vee house, you mentioned California and then you mentioned the
East coast.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Right. We were starting to make correlations. This is a
weird thing, and you don't know this. And that's why
sometimes estes freaks me out, is because it's tracking about
things Buck and I he had we're talking about because
we watched the stuff on Lizzie Borden. The stuff we
were talking about the fee House also related to the
Lizzy Bordton stuff we had just done research on, and

(53:34):
I was like, little, what is going on? Is she
picked which house? Is she picking up? All? Right? Now?
I'm like, is somebody coming through from the Lizzie boardon
house that wants to give us some more information? So
I wasn't sure, but then you said in California and
something about going to California or what comes to find
out later on we were talking to Ji who's the

(53:54):
owner of the fee House, and the fIF actually did
really California, Yes, I have a house there.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
And then one of the sons was trying to become
an actor. There was Thomas, I'm wondering if the house
that you're seeing in the Adste's is not the house religion,
possibly because it would be that style back and it would.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
That would be the right time period. And we ended
up doing the Charler reading. We did a group charl
reading where the three of us each got a deck
and then we holed cards.

Speaker 33 (54:26):
Should we ask who the guy with watches? Yep, I
have not idea, didn't given eight, but he was the
first person that showed up.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Maybe Camon mill I don't know what they mean. Where'd
you get out?

Speaker 8 (54:47):
There's would be and can hun.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
Would be and kimbobil honey bee and.

Speaker 10 (54:55):
Can okay Cam, we'll work finances, abundance, business matters.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
Kay.

Speaker 10 (55:04):
A person that you work with, he represents communication, a
message is on its way to You could also refer
to a subject that many people.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
Are talking about. Okay, So he's, uh, he's definitely somebody
who works.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
You heard your shaker in the town.

Speaker 13 (55:22):
Perhaps, yes, So he's a he works and he wants
to give us a message that's really obvious.

Speaker 8 (55:29):
Yeah, so he's one of the ones that wants to talk, okay,
right being ding like yes ding dow ding? Mkay alright,
so it ding, but there's no message.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
That's interesting, just my message maybe no.

Speaker 29 (55:48):
My phone just ding didn't dd my phone the ding do?
Was it your phone?

Speaker 6 (55:50):
The ding do?

Speaker 5 (55:51):
That's what I say, Oh my.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Phone didn't ding?

Speaker 8 (55:58):
What's the message?

Speaker 19 (56:01):
So I think?

Speaker 13 (56:05):
So, so that's okay, that's like ha ha ha, you're
on to something.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (56:16):
Alright, alright, so he's he's definitely somebody in the house
that's the worker.

Speaker 17 (56:22):
Mm.

Speaker 34 (56:24):
But is it Frank oh, there's well it's abundant. So
is somebody that has money. Okay, right, so it is Yeah,
business matters, so it's.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
I mean, it could be Frank one of the people,
one of the owners. Oh, I'm thinking it's Frank. It
could be Sebastian or yeah, I mean if you're one
of the.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Other both owners.

Speaker 32 (56:50):
Mm ah, oh okay, what did you get?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Nothing?

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 17 (57:06):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (57:07):
Wait?

Speaker 8 (57:08):
Camera, you got the two of fire, the double.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
And six affair and the sixth of fire.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
But the double is like.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
A big dark thing behind her there.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Wait.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
You have ever seen a picture of Maymie mm mm.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
At the screaming lady? No, no, the lady who burned up?
Well hm hm she the mother.

Speaker 29 (57:44):
M yeah, she was having an affair with yeah, the dad.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Yeah right, she wasn't the mother of the kids. No,
she lived in the house. They moved into the house
together and then they had a bunch of kids there,
three of them.

Speaker 35 (57:59):
Three of the kids.

Speaker 16 (58:05):
Were from the marriage.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Prior his kids there were his kids before and then
does she have anything?

Speaker 29 (58:14):
Two?

Speaker 5 (58:14):
She had two kids.

Speaker 29 (58:15):
One of them was possibly from the house.

Speaker 17 (58:20):
Guy.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
This is this is Does this.

Speaker 29 (58:24):
Not look like her?

Speaker 6 (58:26):
Yeah? It's a very similar facial structure.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
I believe she was wearing blue dress too when she died.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Okay, well, and then she's surrounded by fire.

Speaker 8 (58:41):
In his cards.

Speaker 29 (58:43):
Yes, okay, so.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Is it Frank Fee. Then that sounds associated with her.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
This sounds a lot like her, her her stuff going
on right now. I'm trying to communicate what she's done here.
This is her doing.

Speaker 29 (59:00):
This is well, I mean it kind of does. Look
look what he's wearing in this picture.

Speaker 16 (59:05):
He's got the three piece suit on, he's got the Yeah, yeah,
it could be him.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Maybe he's trying to set the records trade that she
blah blah blah had this, she did stuff, blah blah,
And he's trying to communicate that she did something or
or something like that. This looks just like her though.
I mean, like this is the affair, and then this

(59:33):
is the having the child with the gardener or whatever,
you know, the grounds keeper, right, having another affair on
top of the current relationship that she got into that
was sort.

Speaker 36 (59:47):
Of well, I mean, this is like what she's embarrassed
off stage, right, So it was known, yeah, that they weren't.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
It was like a bigger thing than than the original
one that did this at the beginning, and you know
she needed something more, she needed the way that she did,
she pulled the strings. Maybe she she used sex to
get to cause trouble, right, or to trauma, to cause trauma.

(01:00:22):
What is that? What is that trauma bond? She used
trauma bonding.

Speaker 29 (01:00:25):
That sex, Thomas, So there is a Tom said Tom,
you did I did Max and Tom?

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
Right?

Speaker 16 (01:00:35):
Yeah, Tom was where we do have been potentially followed
by a servant who cared for the home and grounds
and lived in the carriage house.

Speaker 29 (01:00:43):
But look how a bunch of different he looks than
everybody else in this picture. That's Tom.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yeah, so that's her son.

Speaker 13 (01:00:58):
Yep, there is Tom, who looks nothing like the other children,
and who also looks nothing like Frank.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
But has the feed last name. And he's not in that.

Speaker 29 (01:01:14):
Picture, no, because it was before then.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
That's before. Yeah, but there was other kids that were
just the same.

Speaker 29 (01:01:22):
Wait, where's the fifth child?

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Yeah, he's not there. He's not in that picture. No, Thomas, right,
the bottom, he's the bottom guy between the mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
You're right here.

Speaker 29 (01:01:35):
Yeah, Yeah, that's Tom. He doesn't look like any of
the other kids.

Speaker 35 (01:01:42):
So she's having sex to get her way, even with the.

Speaker 29 (01:01:47):
Even with the sermons.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Yeah, maybe maybe he doesn't do what she wants him
to do, and so she does these sort of things
that just destroy, that make things worse. Right, she's she's
making things worse. She split up the root first marriage, right,
she probably did something instigated, probably messed up that marriage,

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his first marriage, and then went on to do more
stuff in that next marriage. You know, she wanted to
get out of it. She wanted money from him, you know,
but he's not gonna he's not gonna give her.

Speaker 37 (01:02:27):
That say, the reason why she dies because she got
burned and then she didn't want to go into the
hospital without her makeup on.

Speaker 8 (01:02:34):
Yeah, did she go to well they said that she went.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
To a wedding or something.

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
Yeah, because she didn't.

Speaker 37 (01:02:39):
She didn't want to seem so if she married for
money six pentacles, she married for money, but.

Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
She was so the thing is is in an article
is says that she was actually married to another lumberman,
so she upgraded.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah. Yeah, so she married for money and then she
wanted more from him and he wouldn't give it to her,
and so she went and she had upgrade. Yeah, Well,
she had sex with Why would she do.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
It with a ground keeper?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Well, whoever was around. She wanted him to give her
money to divorce her, and she wanted to take the money.
She wanted to take the money for herself. She wasn't
getting it, maybe and she wanted it.

Speaker 30 (01:03:21):
Well, Frank was a businessman, right, so he probably was
at the sawmills and broker not home.

Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
Well a salons came up, which literally did they get card?

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
Yeah, she wanted the dick because she was okay, yeah,
Frank wasn't around.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
And Frank wasn't around.

Speaker 38 (01:03:42):
Why is he up in the wonder if he's in
the attic in wonder if he's in the attic in
that hospel's is the only place.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
You can get to the piece? Just maybe that's a yeah,
maybe that's just an afterlife thing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
He's waiting to yeah, waiting to be released or to
go get done with his what he.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Needs to doms like jumped out of the deck.

Speaker 17 (01:04:07):
Fire huh.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
So is it Frank in the attic that I saw?

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
The cars are just jumping out attic. I can't make
this up.

Speaker 38 (01:04:15):
Eat fucker, Okay, okay, I don't even know that was
a hard idiot.

Speaker 8 (01:04:21):
I don't play with this deck enough, okay, let.

Speaker 13 (01:04:25):
Me Also, I'm gonna say this, we need to be
careful about having a fire in the attic.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
Father so disturbant and lived up.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
Where's the fashion.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
Fire and the attic for you?

Speaker 37 (01:04:42):
Wait a minute, did he just say, like, go ahead
and have sex with the whatever?

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
Like, just go ahead and do it because I'm not
gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Go ahead and have sex with whoever you want?

Speaker 39 (01:04:51):
Kind of thing's got kind of what it seems like
with that right there?

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Whatever to get me a peace because she can.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
She wanted more, right, she's bitching at it. She wants
this and she wants to and he's like, ah, just
go away. I don't wanna hear it. I don't wanna
listen to it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
Mm.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
She wanted more money and she wanted more of this
and she gonna get what she can get. She just yeah,
she kind of.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
So did she have the affair to to set him
off or did he?

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
Was he okay with it?

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
I think that's where I've been getting confused.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
Yeah, she was the devil though.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Yeah, she's she's spiteful doing things that she can to
push buttons and the screws there.

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
She's the one with the portal there? I know is
that what this is?

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Is she the one that caused past?

Speaker 40 (01:05:55):
I think?

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
So there's some yelling.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
There's a lot of that argument Saturn is the.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
Other yin and yang? Why the path?

Speaker 38 (01:06:04):
Okay, so this has to do something some angry something
that happened in the past.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
It's like an old argument or something.

Speaker 29 (01:06:09):
Or what are you getting.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
As a father, like mad at the gardener or mad
at the grounds keeper for this this outside of his will?
Or was it done in spite or was it done
with Like you said, did he allow it or did

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he did he forbid it? Was it forbidden that she
did that? Or was it allowed? So he could have
said just go do it. He could have said something
and then she went and did it, you know, and
being like, look, your words, what you say can come
into reality. So she could have very well been playing

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mad jack, doing witchcraft, doing a sort of working with
these elements and then trying to show him through sort
of that play there. This is kind of you know,
what you say can become a reality. You know you're
not listening to me anyway, And the message that you know,

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be careful what you say, hold your temper kind of
teaching him that. Like, so if he's the boss man,
he's not gonna get that from the people that he's commanding.
He's telling everybody what to do, and she's kind of,
you know, being his boss man, taking that position over him.

Speaker 8 (01:07:40):
Like well, he's just a little fire though. He seems
very angry.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
Yeah, yeah, there, he's very exacting.

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
He seems very like he's got a temper.

Speaker 41 (01:07:49):
I didn't get angry. I got him more like impatient
because he's seeing, let's get shit done. Time is money
kind of thing. Is kind of what I got from him,
very much in that mode of like workaholic mm hmm.

Speaker 37 (01:08:02):
But it's interesting because the Impress is the mother card
and they have the page of Fire and the Page
of Swords, and he's the fire, he's.

Speaker 13 (01:08:10):
Paid fire and the Page of Swords is a different child,
but different energy.

Speaker 8 (01:08:15):
So she's definitely sleeping around revenge.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
Yeah, all right, it seems like there's a lot of
that going on here.

Speaker 38 (01:08:26):
Yeah, she's the devil, she's revenge. She did it out
of revenge. This is confirmation that he did not know
about it. Okay, So who's the screaming lady, the one
of the daughters.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
No, because the only daughter.

Speaker 8 (01:08:40):
It's Catherine.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
Yeah, she's the one.

Speaker 8 (01:08:42):
That drank the poison. Yeah, she could be the screaming daughter,
the screaming lady, the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Lady who burned up. That's maybe the one who maybe came.
So yeah, maybe one of the kids. Maybe one of
the kids who liked the the baby liked someone was
fond of Tom. One of the kids fond of Tom,

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like Tom, and bore the message to his dad of
how to love Tom. And that's really hard. That just
probably is more turning the screws for him, you know,
to have your daughter, you know, sort of being the
harbor for this black sheep that you don't really know

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what to do with. And I don't.

Speaker 37 (01:09:38):
Know, it's kind of she was unning like these She
was wearing like that pillbox look though from the.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
Like the Jackie Oh look.

Speaker 41 (01:09:48):
Not the sixties, but still it was like kind of
that look that or that late fifties.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
It was kind of that look.

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
She was screaming at the top of her looks. It
woke me up. Actually, she was.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Screaming so loud.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
And they're arguing fighting.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
They could be arguing in fighting too. I never thought
of that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
It could be literally somebody screaming. But why was she
wearing like the clothing?

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
What kind of clothing are you talking about? I don't
know what that is.

Speaker 42 (01:10:13):
Jacky Oh could be the beady I know, Jackie chan
Oh damn it, Jackie o'dexas.

Speaker 43 (01:10:28):
Dang it, I got a JFK's wife.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Oh right on, okay, damn I can I got that.
I got that?

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Okay, So who's a screaming lady? Let's pull cards on it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:41):
Let's see what it comes up with. So the Empress
and the line of cups.

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
Two one emperor two.

Speaker 22 (01:10:52):
Looks like we have a woman who's trying to get
everything she wants and a man who doesn't give a cluck.

Speaker 6 (01:10:56):
The Emperor, he just rule and he's like, oh yeah,
what's some money given?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Give buck?

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
Yeah, and he's not terrible. Left what was going on
in the house. I think she married for.

Speaker 24 (01:11:06):
Money and he married because he needs someone to watch
the kids. And they're probably have an a fair And
then once they got into like the actual merriage, then
it changed. It wasn't this fiery passion love affair anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:11:22):
And now it's it's business and she's all, I don't
want the business.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
I don't want to be the fucking nanny.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
I wanted passion and money, and I wanted.

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
The other stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:11:34):
I would have just stayed with the other lumber guy.

Speaker 39 (01:11:37):
Electromagnetic Okay, so this usually means like a kch meter
or h somebody's gonna talk to us, someone's gonna talk
to us, or somebody is affecting the cake, like the
electricity in the house.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
Yeah, seller, there's this basement again that doesn't exist.

Speaker 22 (01:12:02):
He aid, Oh, okay, he's the one that does the
K two meter.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
He's the one that messes with the electricity.

Speaker 8 (01:12:12):
Sebastian messas with the electricity.

Speaker 13 (01:12:13):
Okay, because when we were there, sometimes the K two
just go off the hook. They just start, Yeah, there's
there's no electricity in the house. So we're like, and
there wasn't any cameras around or anything.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
You can literally just sit there and watch the K
two meters go hmm.

Speaker 8 (01:12:31):
Yeah. So Sebastian is the one that that punks everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
So if we're gonna close that portal, we gotta communicate
with the person who owns the house.

Speaker 20 (01:12:44):
Well I never thought about it that way, but yeah,
maybe that's why he showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Yeah, he's the guy waiting.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
He's the boss. Yeah, he's like, they've screwed up my
house and he need to fix it.

Speaker 13 (01:12:59):
Okay, there's one way of looking at it, going back
to the source, like resetting the energy of the house.

Speaker 39 (01:13:06):
Yeah, okay, all right, going back to the basement, the
first floor, the.

Speaker 38 (01:13:15):
Yeah, all right, we get some validation on that, please,
would that be what we need to do?

Speaker 17 (01:13:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
What cards you got? I got the page of Earth,
three of water, and nine of air.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
Well, there's the house the night. Look at that's the
card on the Night of the Swords. Is the house?

Speaker 37 (01:13:41):
Yeah, so he was worried about the house. Why does
he guys such a weird ownership to it?

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Page of Earth? So maybe he was part of the
foundation of the city or the foundation of the town,
part of an instrument of making it good for everybody,
kind of like the true spirit of the place. He
had good intentions, and then these people with all this

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crazy shit moved into his house. That kind of really
he needs that reinstated, that virtue reinstated in his house,
like he was there in the a part of the
virtue and trying to well.

Speaker 8 (01:14:29):
That's kind of what I was thinking before.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
He was amazing.

Speaker 21 (01:14:32):
So it makes sense that feet would buy the house
or it would be passed down to Masons, but they
would have known where they were putting it, so wherever
it was built would have been in a good location energetically.

Speaker 8 (01:14:47):
Oh yeah, so something happened.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
So I don't know.

Speaker 44 (01:14:52):
If they changed something or if it's like like a
like lay line shift or energetic shift.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Yeah, I need to find out.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
Did you have the energy here and then the energy
here coming in and.

Speaker 8 (01:15:13):
The double bitch lady made the energy shift?

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
Yeah, that has created the negative right portal. Yeah, she's on.

Speaker 8 (01:15:22):
The Kris Bortal. I don't think she meant to create it.
I don't think she was doing witchcraft. I think it
was Shannigan's in the house.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Yeah, just her her character, Yeah, her character.

Speaker 29 (01:15:30):
And her energy.

Speaker 8 (01:15:32):
I know. Last time, I was like, oh, she's so nice.

Speaker 17 (01:15:34):
She always talks to us.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
She's such a nice lady. Like it's the double in
the blue dress. Well she was.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
She did go to church every day, she does. She
does keep the appearances a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Yeah, known of her.

Speaker 8 (01:15:48):
She liked to keep appearances' so why she dies.

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
She didn't want to go to the hospital.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
So this to me says kind of he wants us
to restore virtue of the or or yea restore virtue.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
But we need to find it where it's something on
that corner. We need to find out the compass where that.

Speaker 13 (01:16:10):
Corner is and how that works, because I think the
energy of that that house is creating chaos and the
rest of the neighborhood.

Speaker 8 (01:16:18):
Well, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be like a.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
Yeah, yeah, there's supposed to be a positive grids.

Speaker 8 (01:16:24):
To be positive, like a cornerstone.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Look churches and stuff like that, or pointing these ways
the way people are singing in the houses that line
up with the way that everybody's singing.

Speaker 38 (01:16:35):
Yeah, I get, but it's like, like you said, if
there was like a Mason, then the.

Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
House would be lined up according to like good luck
or something. You're like functioning for Masons.

Speaker 13 (01:16:46):
I don't think all that, but it would be a
cornerstone house either way, be foundation.

Speaker 37 (01:16:51):
If that foundation is fucked up, then that's going to
fuck up the energy in the whole neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
There's one piece of the puzzle. Yeah, very well.

Speaker 13 (01:17:04):
So what about the screaming lady, though I'm still unsure
of who the streaming lady is?

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Is the al is the a lady?

Speaker 8 (01:17:11):
Is she even in the house or is she gone death? Okay,
so she's not there. She's not there, kay.

Speaker 13 (01:17:21):
The screaming lady, the the lady who fell down the
stairs is't not there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
It's just a memrane mkay.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
So that's an imprint.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
So that's interesting.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
Okay, So the people that are in the house that
are stuck.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Are the fees.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
The other memories that we're getting are just imprints that
the lady falling down the stairs.

Speaker 38 (01:17:45):
It's just a it's a well, the energy is stuck.

Speaker 8 (01:17:50):
Yeah, so it's just gonna keep your peating in them. Okay,
this was making.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
More sense to me now.

Speaker 8 (01:17:56):
Window.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Okay, so there's something in the window. See something about
the windows or and is that the sun room or
something where the kid used to live?

Speaker 8 (01:18:13):
Was it that was the motto floor? Yeah?

Speaker 42 (01:18:17):
So the window she was talking about the window cause
when she did the what did you say?

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
You say it window on the top floor?

Speaker 6 (01:18:24):
No, cause I when I was doing that the first time.

Speaker 8 (01:18:28):
At the second time, eever, it was did.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
I s Yeah? I saw like steps like.

Speaker 21 (01:18:33):
I was coming up steps, and then I was looking.

Speaker 45 (01:18:37):
Like down the side of the house, like where the
grass was so I was like looking out the window
or was on the side of the house.

Speaker 8 (01:18:47):
Somebody is looking down.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
The house, kidd a bed another imprint? Is it another imprint?

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
Like that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Did somebody die? Get pushed up?

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Oh?

Speaker 30 (01:18:58):
Cause I had asked what we were here to you
and that's why I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Okay, So go up the stairs and look out the window.
So clear kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:19:10):
So I think we're on the right track because this
is lost.

Speaker 19 (01:19:12):
But it's a compass, so it's lost its balance. The
house is the energy of the house is lost, Yes,
so we need to regard the house.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Yeah, reinstatate, reinstitute virtu. Here you clear the the energy
and then you're in state. Birch here right put for
the Okay, attention in the area.

Speaker 8 (01:19:36):
But I think we need to find the coordinates of
the house, cause the compass keeps coming. The compass came up,
which is like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Find out where the centers of well look around where where? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Where?

Speaker 46 (01:19:50):
If we were talking about finding mecca, the mecca the
north or whatever that is, we were talking about my here,
like how how in the Islam tradition you always faces
face map up.

Speaker 8 (01:20:03):
Which would be like the same thing here we need
to find out.

Speaker 29 (01:20:08):
How to regard the house.

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Let it's back to it's look at the map, see
the the churches around that area, or the government buildings,
like the large state buildings. Or can I look at
the map, look at the roads the way the roads
are turned and moved and you'll see that, like okay,
or we can just house, we can just you can
do both, yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:30):
Okay, anything else we need to know.

Speaker 46 (01:20:34):
Okay, So the the screaming lady is the double and
the blue dress.

Speaker 38 (01:20:38):
She's screaming because she's pissed off. Wait, I wanna ask
one more question. Why did Catherine.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Drink the poison?

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
It wasn't It wasn't because she was mad, just accidentally
drink the wrong bang. We'll call bullshit on that stupid story.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
It of cups, seven of cups. There's something going on
that she was trying to escape.

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
So she's escaping a situation that she feels like she
has no.

Speaker 6 (01:21:11):
Seven o'clock. She she doesn't feel any kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:21:15):
She doesn't have any choice.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Yeah, she didn't know that.

Speaker 43 (01:21:19):
Yeah, there's nothing else to do the way I was
a magician, she was the daughter that drank the poison. Okay,
So so going back to she was.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
The she was the harbor of black sheep of the
family or that dead energy, right the uh, I don't
know this. She kind of the way that this lights
up is like, uh, that's very this this character. She
was an interpreter for the dad of how to take

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care of, how to love and then for her to
go upself and just drink the poison. It's very much
like just you're his his his The toxic way that
he is being is just overbearing.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
But who is the magician is with her daughter?

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
She is, She is the magician. She's the one who
who who gets out of the situation.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
Like, oh okay, all yeah, that's a dad.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
He wanted to control her and she's pretty much saying
that you can't control me.

Speaker 6 (01:22:30):
Who was she arguing with though?

Speaker 47 (01:22:33):
The brother is adowndown were downstairs. Yeah, so she's arguing
with her brother, but her dad has something.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
To do with it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Yeah, never know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
His inheritance. The brothers were arguing because one of them
was illegitimate, right.

Speaker 17 (01:23:02):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
I mean she was arguing with her brother when we went.
When we went the first time that Evelyn did Sti's downstairs.

Speaker 31 (01:23:13):
In the kid in the dining room and we were
talking to a little kid, and it was like she
was witnessing the struggle, like there was abuse or it
was physical.

Speaker 8 (01:23:24):
It wasn't just verbal argument, right, and she you know,
she witnessed her mom drink the poison.

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
So there's something more I mean for her to.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
Have.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
Yeah, there's no other way out that she.

Speaker 13 (01:23:42):
Had to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
So women at the time had to be you know,
if you were with the men around you said you were,
you know, yeah you were, and they were they were
the ones that were telling her probably.

Speaker 48 (01:23:57):
What she couldn't couldn't do any Okay, So Frank Fee
Junior died of a heart attack, not Frank Fee. So
we got that confused, or I got that confused. To me,
I will take credit for that.

Speaker 16 (01:24:11):
Catherine nineteen thirty two.

Speaker 48 (01:24:15):
Is when this happened to Catherine. She was twenty eight,
she was already married, she had a daughter.

Speaker 29 (01:24:23):
So there is a child that did die.

Speaker 16 (01:24:25):
Frank junior son, Frank the third died as a child.

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
Oh child child three and a half.

Speaker 35 (01:24:39):
Three and a half, I know, right, So when Catherine
took the poison, Okay, when did.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
Make me die?

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Yeah, if you want to be king of earth. Just
kill yourself. If you want to be king of heaven,
then you give yourself to whatever it is that finally
takes you.

Speaker 16 (01:25:04):
Okay, So maybe died in nineteen thirty one.

Speaker 29 (01:25:09):
Catherine died in nineteen thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Yeah, so this is who was there.

Speaker 16 (01:25:17):
During the time that she drank the acid. It was
her husband and her two brothers.

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
Hmm to Tom and Junior. Yeah, there are five kids.

Speaker 29 (01:25:36):
It's five kids. So who's the magician? Who's the king
of Earth?

Speaker 16 (01:25:41):
The King of Earth is a father figure, so it's
not her father.

Speaker 29 (01:25:45):
Maybe it's the father.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
To me, it's psychological the king of Earth and the
magician that she killed herself, So the King.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Of Earth is a father but which it's not her fault.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
It's maybe the father of her and kick Yeah, and
then let me just showed it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
But then what were you saying?

Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
You were saying that it could just be psychological, like
I'm the king now?

Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
Yeah you yeah, you can't like the tausion, you know,
I always think of it as like the smooth talker.

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
Right, can't smooth talk me.

Speaker 8 (01:26:22):
I'm gonna kill myself. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
They were trying to convince her to go along with something.

Speaker 8 (01:26:31):
Or too well, I got tactile, which means touch.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
Did one of the brothers have a hand in it?

Speaker 8 (01:26:41):
Right, that's what I'm yea literally a hand in the picture.

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
Seven of Earth. Something about money, Queen of Earth. They
didn't wanna share it with her.

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
Something they go to get rid of her.

Speaker 29 (01:27:02):
Seems like it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
But the kids saw the mom drank the poison.

Speaker 8 (01:27:08):
No, the she was downstairs when they were arguing, and
they were arguing about who was to cause, who was
the cause of her death? Who was the cause of
her death?

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
Oh, oh I see, let see. So maybe they were
arguing over, oh is shoe's gonna happen?

Speaker 44 (01:27:30):
Herebody killed her and then they shut the poison down
her throat make it look like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
She just drank the poison. Who was she arguing with? Oh,
it's just uh, which makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
She didn't have a way out.

Speaker 8 (01:27:52):
She didn't have because they killed her. She was trying
to get out of the situation, whatever the situation was.
So she was dead before the.

Speaker 29 (01:28:01):
Poison was in her body, or she was dying as.

Speaker 8 (01:28:04):
The poison was in her body.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
The lady who drank the poison that the poison just
the cover story for really being killed before that, and
we knew that there was other people in the house
whenever she did this obviously, and where they we both
cards to see if they were in on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
We got some interesting information about maybe they don't the
lady in the blue dress, But what the owner Drew
told us and what we got in the cards are
a little bit of skier. This really threw me off
because I don't know who to believe. I don't know
if I should believe the cards and the energy that
we picked up. One are appreaching with the woife Drew,
or some are intimate.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
We all have the liberty to choose which one we want, Like,
you can't really know in some degree you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Can't and somebody somewhere knows the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Truth, right, I don't know. Sometimes the truth is lost.
There's no way around that knows the truth anymore these things,
So what did we get?

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
So with Maymie, she came up as the devil card
as she was surrounded by fire. In real life she
actually caught on fire, so it was definitely her and
a lot of the cars that we pulled in. The
theory that had started to develop was that she was

(01:29:24):
a lot of the reason for the chaos. Their relationship
started because of an affair and they both left their
spouses to come together and create a family and live
in this house. Already, there's a lot of drama around
got relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
And coming into the house.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
And then there was a story around Thomas feed not
being a biological child of both parents, that there was
something going on because he does look a lot different
than the other children, which Drew confirm that later. But
when we were pulling the cards, we felt like Mamie

(01:30:08):
was the mother and that she had been.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Messing around with.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
Some help and it was more of a revenge sex
type of relationship because Frank was not around. He was
more focused on the business and he was disconnected from
the family, so she was pissed off and she was
sleeping with the help. But when we talked to Drew,

(01:30:35):
it was almost opposite.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
And they did a paternity test because he said it's
paternity test.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Were they did testing on his grandkids? Is that or
did he even say where they got the test from? No, Genetically,
he didn't say who it was from, but I guess
they did some sort of testing on his lineage and
Frank was the father and Mami was not the mother.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Tom's the younger one too. If they had a child together,
it would have been Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Yeah, there was only I think there was five children,
not together.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
How many children did they have together?

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I know there was three prior to thee there was
three older children. I'm not sure we had two children, Lauren,
what's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
So then the question was Okay, So the first time
we were there, do we see Frank in the attic
because he was sleeping with the servant girl that lived
in the attic.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah, we confirmed that there was a girl that lived
in the other Yes, because we've been that clearly our
last investigation there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
And Mamie has special treatment for her because she would
give her special soaps.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Coincidentally, home or Frank's room would have been right next
to the stairwell that goes up into the attic for
the person living up there then going up and down.
Also right outside his room as the elevator chap where
they would have had the dumb waiter going up and down.
So the master's quarters has easy access to what's in

(01:32:15):
the attic. At the same time, you can keep what's
in the attic away from everything going down below, like
you can keep secrets up in your attic. There totally
plausible death. Meliat who lived up in the top, could
have been the mother, could have been pregnant and living
up there without anybody ever going, could have been pregnant,

(01:32:37):
had a baby up there without anybody downstairs knowing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I'm sure she did everything for the family, but she
would not be utilized as Marshall space, I don't know,
or maybe she would just wear baggy clothes and nobody
knew what was going on. She must have had two children,
because the other three children were from the previous marriage.
They had Thomas and Patricia together.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Tricia looks like her mother, and the way that True
was describing them, they were part of the culture that
had no regard for anything wholesome.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
They were right trash. Yeah if they have a lot
of money and so they just did whatever they wanted.
But I'm still confused about the whole devil in the
Boo dress aspect and what we were picking up on,
because there's something about that narrative that came through very clearly,
and both times I've been in the Fea house, I

(01:33:36):
had that feeling like there was two sides to her,
or there was something about her where she did do
things for vengeance or she did do things I don't know.
I still can't get over that. Maybe we have me
whose child it was wrong, But I still think the
narrative of who she isn't maybe would just come down

(01:33:57):
at the wrong in detail, and that made sense. She
was about appearances, and when most people talk to her
at the fee house, she is very responsive and she's
putting on that face that's presentable to society. But we
come in and we don't care about that, and so
we picked up on what's behind the facade. We had

(01:34:19):
a takings at face value. Ever, Yeah, I still feel
that the part about her sleeping around and the rug
sack that makes them police list all that stuff makes
sense to me. It's just I think we got the
some of the details, of which it's really hard when
you're doing a reading. She can get all the details.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
There's no reports from that time. There could have been
other things going on that just are not ever gonna be.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yeah, she did have other children and they got.

Speaker 49 (01:34:53):
Rid of that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
That could be we could be picking up on the
child and they do have a lot of friends in
high places.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Thomas was not with the other children. He definitely was
in a different area of that house. They put him
in what the a side room or something on the
bottom floor, and everybody else had a big room on
the top four. So he definitely was sequestered. But they
didn't treat him well because they took him to California
because he wanted to be an actor. He was definitely

(01:35:22):
a lady's mayor. We did verify that there were air
quotes servants that lived on the premises. They lived in
the carriage house. You said it was a two story
carriage house, and they're correct.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Yeah, yes, most of those start homes they had that
house in the back. Who stilious.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
It would not be out of place for a vote
of them to be sleep penguin, right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
And the carriage house that is there now is not original.
It's a lot smaller than it was because there was
a fire. There's a lot of fire on that property.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
After the fire. The house that's there now a lot nicer.
It looks nicer than the house, nice and cute, and
that there was that fire in the bee house. Perhaps
now it's time for it to get nice and cute too.
The cannon inspired at it now it's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
A so that's interesting what the fire said, because when
I went there the first time, one of the things
I asked was, has never been a fire here recently?
And then yeah, there was a fire years ago. Like no,
like in the last couple of years. He's fall like
slope and I just felt like, there's a fire here,
and everyone was like, no, this window fire is recently.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Ie months later, there's a fire and that takes up
up the building a lot of the stuff that we
got in the first walk of the bee House.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Actually it was it was like a premonition. Time is
weird in.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
The it's either looking at the pasts or you're looking
at the feature. You're never quite in the present, if
that means sense. I guess they had a fire.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Two fires. I guess one actually started where the ashtray
ones were. It was all in your origin or your
view of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Now you say that, yeah, the ashtray in my vision
was right there right by where the fire shot up.
And the thing that started the fire, they were burning
trumpet mine that was growing up the house, and they
had cut it off and they're burning the stone park
and the fire went underneath the house and then cut

(01:37:37):
hit that house on fire from the inside. They didn't.
They were hosing off the outside of the house. It
was all wet in the ground. All around the house,
there was all wet. The fire went underneath the ground
and then up into the house.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
So just try to create amaze when and keep seeing
this base that that doesn't exist, and.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
It almost it was on the house. They're very easily
totally being gone. The fire would it just reached the attic.
It had the whole attic and dull, but luckily they
were on They stopped it at the second story. And yeah,
as a miracle, that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Is the rived. And it's weird because Mamie's was the
room that got the worst damage and that's where she
calumn Here does almost like history repeating itself. It's like
the fire and every went away or like the the
energy of the fire is still there or something. I
don't know it. It's really weird. Which again it goes

(01:38:35):
back to the whole the double wall in the blue dress,
because the double card in the deck that Stephanie was
using is a woman in a blue dress, and Mamie
was wearing a blue dress and she'd cam him there
and she said she was surrounded by two fire cards
and then we go into the feed house and the

(01:38:56):
room that that was her room is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
During that hot fire, and she spout on blue fireplace
and the fire was on the opposite wall that the fireplaces,
so she would have been right in the middle of
both fires.

Speaker 31 (01:39:10):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
But before we went in and they were talking about
the fire, but Drew was telling us to be careful
because when the firemen came for the fire, they had
opened up some of the windows and they couldn't get
them back shut, so they're open.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
And the sign that has the windows open is open
over grass, So it would have been the type of
windows if I would have been looking out in the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
You're looking lookout.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
You're literally looking out the windows. Right, You're getting another
thing about the fire, so you're looking out the windows
at that firing an open, which is really weird, so
weird sometime, but again that's another many thing. It's like
the fire is.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Maimie, her spirit spirit, that energy, her.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Energy signature is. So there half are in the main yar.
The two people seem to come through the most, and
Catherine's the one that took the poison. But Drew said
that she first sure killed herself, and we're like, okay,
because according to the car that we got, sure she
killed herself, but they were like when dating circumstances, there
was definitely some genetic instoding.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
But the official story is that they were fighting and
she was upset about her mom's death and so she
accidentally drank poison instead of something for her headache.

Speaker 13 (01:40:38):
But then.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
It comes out that she cooe did it for suicidal
purposes and she wanted everyone to know it now. Drew
said that she got crazy eyes. He said that picture of.

Speaker 4 (01:40:50):
Her that they have on the website and on the mantle,
that she has crazy eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
But if you look at the picture, she and the.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Baby are looking over at somebody and the baby's laughing
and the husband is looking straight ahead at the camera.
So I think she's just looking at whatever the baby's
looking at and laughing about whatever was happening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Yeah, I think it creepy eyes either. I think, just
from what I felt, I think she was pushed to
being crazy because gaslighting and they were Church of Christ.

Speaker 9 (01:41:27):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Church of Christ scientists? Yeah, with scientology or scientists, yeah,
Church of Christ scientists, And to me that screams cult. Yeah.
I just feel like she was pushed in that direction.
Firsus actually being brazy was what I got from her energy,

(01:41:51):
and when we pulled cards, it was the poison was
her way out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
That's the only way she saw out of the situation
that she was in. I think maybe when her mom
was alive, that was a little bit of the support
for her that she needed. And then her mom was gone,
and then there was no other female energy and it
was all the males around her. The only thing with
me was actually her real mom that was a stepmom.
But I could seem you're saying, there's another feminine energy

(01:42:21):
in their house. Even if she wasn't the most supportive,
she was still there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
If she is the kind of person that we're thinking
she is, she would have pushed back on a lot
of stuff. And then when she was gone, that wasn't there.
So then Catherine was left to her brothers and her husband,
who do seem hate's word but misogynistic or they were.
Maybe this is the time period too, It could be

(01:42:48):
right for women don't really have a lot of voice,
so she'd be very dramatic about it. Yeah, it's very
interesting that those are the two prominent energies in the
how the two females in the house, and then the
woman that filled down the stairs, but that was a
different time created. I guess that was in the forties.
She actually owned the house longer than the seas did,

(01:43:09):
but for some reason her energy isn't as stopped there.
And then we found out that these through the house
it turned into apartment buildings or something like that. Like
the sixties and seventies there were apartments. So there was
an addition to the back, and then there was an
entrance that came out to the second level from the back,

(01:43:32):
and then two apartments. Therest have been another staircase or
so I think it was outside and it attached to
a deck. You can see where the deck had been
cut off and there's a window where a door used
to be. So there have been a lot of fusions
to the house. For the most part, the house is
pretty much their original structure, just like the back part

(01:43:55):
of the house, and then you can see when you
go down the hallway there was like another part of
the house. There's not a lot of renovations that happened
in maybe some paint and some trim has been changed. Right,
like eight percent of the house is exactly how it was,
So we go into the house after we talked to

(01:44:15):
Drew for a good short while about the history of
the house, and then we went into the house, and
so what did you think of the house?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
And there was definitely a heaviness to the house.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
I didn't feel like it was.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Evil or there was any evil or demonic presence anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
It wasn't.

Speaker 13 (01:44:38):
Bad.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
It was just off. Even in the attic. Everybody was
afraid to go into the attic with the lasses that
nobody wanted to go up there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
They said there were demons up there. And I didn't
really feel anything in the attic.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
No, it's not scary at all. No, it's just it's uncomfortable,
but not scary. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
I would not want to buy the house. I probably
wouldn't want to live there. It's not one that I
would want to fix up. So I don't know if
that's just because of the way that it's built, or
if it's the weird energy that's there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
I can see where things would be haunted there. But again,
it is weird that there have been other owners. The
one owner of the nineteen forty so like nineteen forty ten,
ninety forty three to nineteen ninety three. That's a really
long time to own a house that's fifty years. Similarly
that how come her energy isn't more? Probably in the
house you barely feel her. There is the one that

(01:45:34):
I've fell down the stairs and that's a seating with her,
and the apartment buildings or the apartment stuff are there.
But rather than that, there's not a lot of her left. No,
it's all the fees. Yeah, And I'm wondering if the
thieves are there, because that's been what's been brought up,

(01:45:54):
because that's the most traumatic part. Instead of that sort
of reef focuses on in the house, almost seems like
nobody else lived there. But when again it goes through
the history, it's yeah, that they were really there maybe
what twenty thirty years, that they bought it in nineteen
oh six or nineteen oh seven, or they died in
the thirties. I think the one that's sold in like

(01:46:16):
thirty eight. Audra, the other owner owned it for longer.
She's like a bulip. You don't feel it when you
walk in. You don't feel that part of it. And
I'm just wondering again if is it because nothing really
happened during that time period.

Speaker 13 (01:46:34):
Or is it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Because ghosts investigators have just gone in there and exasperated
the sea energy, or are they really stuff there? Is
the energy of those two people really stuffed there? I
don't know. It's really weird because I think the energetics.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Of the house had something to do or the placement
of the energy felling through the house has something to
do with their energy and keeping it there. That maybe
because we had talked before, why were we the ones
that showed up, because everybody else that could have been

(01:47:16):
there with us wasn't there, and it was playing on
their fears, people's fears for sure. So if people didn't
show it because of things that they feared, and we
came in without fear and we're just fine, you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Were just like adventure time, It's like the energy amplifies
whatever that underlying emotion is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
If we thought that last time, is it brought up
a lot of anger and chaotic energy, which.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Again to be Maine, or it could be Catherine because
she seems to be she had the same kind of
chaotic energy, right the two women in the house. Part
of anybody sees Frank in the house, and of course
I pick up on Frank. This is there. I'm like,
where's Frank? Yep, because that's there is isn't that I
didn't know it's him, But that's the first energy. I
think Andrew had talked about that too, how he had

(01:48:13):
felt Frank and he almost He talked about how he
almost had to prove himself different when he had bought
the house. He's that father figure, thirty second Mason. He definitely,
even if his family was right trash, he definitely held
some kind of clout just for being a Mason. Which

(01:48:35):
is interesting too. It's definitely a Mason house, so it
definitely has it was built by Mason's prior or something
that earth there was.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
I was theorizing that because he was such a high
degree Mason that it is likely that it would have
been passed down from another mason. They were all in
the lumber business, so I'm sure there's some affiliation. But
what I was saying with the playing, the fears and
the emotions when you go in there, because of the

(01:49:04):
energy of the house, the other owners they didn't have
this chaotic energy like the fees did, so that maybe
why they are amplified.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
That isn't it's a very interesting hypothesis. Because Rex was calm,
nothing happened. As soon as he got worked up. That's
when the air quotes a demon thing. That's when everything's
quite wanted. It's almost, like you said, like the houses
like a it just generates whatever you create. So if

(01:49:39):
you go in calm and then hears in comment, which
we did, we were just like super chill about it.
We did have some things coping. It was just weird.
A lot of the night. We just sat around the
kitchen table and talk eight snacks, laid down in the
attic almost are gonnapp in the attic, the scary demomic
attic along. This is a really great place. I'm just
lay down.

Speaker 9 (01:49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
One which ruins me to our e VP sessions that
we did. We do some knocking VP sessions.

Speaker 35 (01:50:08):
Okay, we're at the fee House.

Speaker 29 (01:50:11):
It's Heather.

Speaker 6 (01:50:14):
Stephanie. Okay, we're here on the second floor.

Speaker 19 (01:50:18):
We want to know.

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
Who brought us here?

Speaker 13 (01:50:22):
Because you got rid of Brian, you got rid of Evelyn,
and you got rid of Josh, so why do you
want us here?

Speaker 8 (01:50:34):
Footsteps are us?

Speaker 35 (01:50:35):
We're walking.

Speaker 24 (01:50:38):
This room?

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
Uh was the one that burned that? There was another
next to it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
Yeah, bedroom.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
This has been the squads. But let's look at sun
or bring Tippy here. It's nice seven.

Speaker 6 (01:51:00):
So who wants us here?

Speaker 40 (01:51:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:51:02):
We weren't a lot on this part of the house
of same fish.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (01:51:05):
Okay, oh god, okay, I don't know, but I don't
like it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
So they opened up the windows here when there was
the fire and you couldn't get 'em down again. Yep,
they brown fats in here.

Speaker 6 (01:51:32):
Here's your window.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
Oh look what do you see down there?

Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
This is the room goes the room in here too.

Speaker 8 (01:51:47):
This is a bigger house than I thought it was.

Speaker 35 (01:51:50):
Yeah, okay, so why do you want us here?

Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
About yours?

Speaker 8 (01:52:02):
Yes, that's what I was saying to you.

Speaker 50 (01:52:05):
So if you have anything to tell us, let us

(01:52:27):
know please, as I'm avoiding going up the stairs to
the attic.

Speaker 15 (01:52:33):
All right, you guys want to go that?

Speaker 25 (01:52:35):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Frank?

Speaker 6 (01:52:42):
Okay, no, Shenanigan's ways.

Speaker 11 (01:52:51):
M h that's it rightly?

Speaker 40 (01:52:56):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Why m.

Speaker 16 (01:53:15):
Alright?

Speaker 6 (01:53:19):
How do you fill up here?

Speaker 9 (01:53:20):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:53:21):
Okay, I'm really high up.

Speaker 11 (01:53:26):
In a house here.

Speaker 5 (01:53:27):
It's really old.

Speaker 17 (01:53:31):
Do you guys wanna sit down with me? That's just
the way, alright.

Speaker 11 (01:53:44):
I don't like it up here. Tonight.

Speaker 35 (01:53:46):
Usually I don't care tonight.

Speaker 17 (01:53:47):
I don't like it up here, don't gospel church right there,
it's a gospel church.

Speaker 5 (01:53:54):
Gospel church.

Speaker 6 (01:53:56):
So you guys got us here, what do you want?

Speaker 5 (01:53:59):
Science? Price, scientist?

Speaker 17 (01:54:03):
Of course scientists.

Speaker 5 (01:54:05):
If he Fee's was, But the guy before that, I
wonder what where he was, I don't know it's what
that would be heavily his energetic imprint would be, you know,
sort of maybe there would be some clues in what

(01:54:26):
faith he practiced. We know he was, Uh the people
who built this were, you know, ah owner of a
lumber miller or his foremant. They both worked on this
project together.

Speaker 17 (01:54:40):
I keep hearing Foreman, so it's probably Foreman.

Speaker 8 (01:54:43):
But like I guess, I'm just trying to find what
we're doing here, Like obviously we were supposed to come here.

Speaker 29 (01:54:50):
That part is.

Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
So he looks like a ship that's sinking and the
original purpose of the ship wants to be remembered.

Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
That's what I think.

Speaker 40 (01:55:08):
I look at all the all the labor that went in,
the all the beams up here, like all that would
in there, like every little every measurement, everything is like
so freaking beautiful, like.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
It is a that that era that put their imprint
down the air did things with the craftsmanship, uh you know, uh,
appreciation to detail and in a very high regard, and
to see to see the the way that the society

(01:55:45):
moved wrecked the ship kind of like seeing how the
ship has become wrecked from the shifting of the.

Speaker 17 (01:55:54):
Energies that have happened.

Speaker 6 (01:55:56):
Could could be Do you wanna do you wanna do
some knocking and see if they knock back?

Speaker 44 (01:56:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:56:09):
See if you do that?

Speaker 6 (01:56:10):
Huh what'd you do that?

Speaker 7 (01:56:12):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:56:12):
You were rolling the ball, rolling.

Speaker 17 (01:56:13):
The ball, but if the wall never came back? Okay,
So do you wanna knock and see if they knocks back.

Speaker 8 (01:56:19):
We're in a full moon too, so something's up.

Speaker 9 (01:56:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:56:23):
They got us here, all right.

Speaker 16 (01:56:30):
We're gonna knock three times and we need to knock
back whoever it is up here.

Speaker 15 (01:56:35):
You got us in the attic, You.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Got us here.

Speaker 15 (01:56:38):
Ready, Okay, I'm gonna knock three times again.

Speaker 11 (01:57:00):
Mm hm.

Speaker 17 (01:57:22):
Does somebody else wanna knock?

Speaker 11 (01:57:30):
Olkry?

Speaker 6 (01:57:30):
I'm gonna knock three times. Knock back.

Speaker 10 (01:57:50):
So much?

Speaker 7 (01:57:59):
M K.

Speaker 15 (01:58:05):
It's okay to talk to us.

Speaker 29 (01:58:06):
We're not like the other people.

Speaker 17 (01:58:07):
We're not gonna provoke you.

Speaker 6 (01:58:15):
M it's a whole bunch of stuffed by.

Speaker 17 (01:58:21):
All of a sudden, I was all, weird, We're gonna
knock again three times. You wanna not go again?

Speaker 6 (01:59:08):
Okay, I'm gonna knock three times.

Speaker 15 (01:59:11):
Knock back, or do you wanna do something else back?

Speaker 6 (01:59:15):
That's okay too.

Speaker 17 (01:59:48):
Is there something you want from us?

Speaker 11 (02:00:28):
Come on luck over time, any kind of.

Speaker 17 (02:01:15):
Impressions or anything.

Speaker 6 (02:01:18):
Just says.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Like, yeah, yeah, we notice that all of our answers
came from outside of the house, not actually in the house.

(02:01:44):
It was like, there's all these exterior things happening.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
Vehicles driving by, motorcycles, the base of sound, the songs
through the cars.

Speaker 2 (02:01:55):
People outside answering are questions not realizing they're answering questions.

Speaker 6 (02:02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
We literally did an EVP session in the attic and
we had nine minutes of motorcycles and no, we're on
a street, but I have never heard nine minutes of motorcycles, right,
And it's a Sunday evening. Why was the external forces
that were answering the other than to pull us outside.

(02:02:25):
Prior to going to the fee house, I had been
studying dowsing and how there's been studying it for a
lot longer than I have. But when the Fea House
came back up, what I was learning was correlating with
things that were going on in the Fea House, and
so I wanted to dowse when we got there to

(02:02:46):
see if we could find out where the energy was
coming from, where if there actually was a portal in
the dining room like we had a theory for.

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
So I got the dowsing row out and we were
walking around and they were doing really weird things. They
weren't doing the normal left rum together like you would
think you would get when you're doing a dasting session.
They were bouncing back and forth. I thought maybe it
was just my energy that was making them do the

(02:03:20):
weird things, Like I wasn't balanced.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Because I had trouble in Rex's house, and I really
couldn't get it to work at my.

Speaker 4 (02:03:27):
House because my house we're on an aquifer, so it's
really weird here too, And so I had Heather try
with her rods, and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:37):
Hers were doing weird things too that they don't normally do. Yeah,
it wasn't ship. There was like two dragon lines connected
in a twining or something, but there was something. It
felt like there was two energies, and I was like,
this makes sense why there's a portpole here in the
middle of the gift to day well, because see the
energy is really funky here and it was doing exactly
what yours were. I was going in and out. There

(02:03:58):
were two opposing energies, so it wasn't just one flow.

Speaker 4 (02:04:04):
We did dows and find that there's a line that
goes straight through the house, through the dining room and
the den area where the fireplace is. Straight through the
house right north the south. There's a line that goes
through there, and we knew there was another line possibly
connecting that somewhere, but we couldn't figure.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Out where the other line was.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
Because the ras just kept going different directions.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
You do the dragon line, which is like a major line.
I don't know in your dousing what do they call it?

Speaker 4 (02:04:36):
Their apartment lines. The Hartman lines are the north, south,
east west once and they're like the electromagnetic field of
the earth.

Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
So dragon line, the way that I learned it is
the same thing. It's a major line. So the reamascular
recommended line, and this west pre feet was like three
or four feet law, so probably close to six feet
because it was about the whole length of the room.
We just noticed looking at some sweet notice there's a
whole bunch of churches on that street going straight through
that line. Super like fletpix sense. It would feel really

(02:05:09):
good for worship on a dragon line or a heartman
line because they give off so much energy. We couldn't
figure out why it was so weird there, and we
were trying to look for intersecting lines that were perpendicular,
and we couldn't find any. Nothing was working.

Speaker 4 (02:05:27):
So we went outside because we thought, if there's a
line here, maybe on the other side of the street
the houses line up with a dragon line too, and
we can see if we can figure out what's going
on if there's parallel.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
And what we found was another line that in the
information that I study would be like a curry line
that go from northeast to southwest. That was intersecting, and
it happens to intersect where the dining room table is

(02:06:07):
in the v house. So in that room we have
two lines, and when that happens, it creates an extremely
negative energy field. If you follow that line across the street,
it would intersect at the same location in another house
that has had issues there. We were calling it the
murder house. Yeah, there was a big murder in there.

Speaker 10 (02:06:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
So the lions intersect right in the fiddle of the house,
which we figured out was on top of Maymee's room,
and you have the bay windows, so it's more of
a circular column, so the energy just spirals.

Speaker 4 (02:06:46):
Up all the way through the rooms, and then the
attic has the pyramid top, so you have all of
the energy concentrating and funneling in that area.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
If it wasn't for that major line going down the street,
it didn't be that big of a deal. That wins
intersect all the time. It just happens set it's a
crossing point, and so the energy doesn't know which way
to go left or right, doesn't know. It's neither real
nor female energy.

Speaker 4 (02:07:13):
It's just dissonance, which would make sense with that chaotic
energy in that area of the house, and possibly with
Many's chaotic energy that could have been exacerbating hers.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
Yeah, it could have affected the whole family. If the
whole family is chaotic, and then you're moving into a
strong chaotic energy through lay lines, it would just amp
everything up. Which is interesting too, because we're the ones
that showed up and we're not too affected by that
energy because we work with it all the time, because
we doubt so, we recognize it for what it is.
We're not going to be affected by it as much

(02:07:47):
because we're like, oh, there's something off. Basically, we're gonna
turn to pum solve it instead of react to it.
But then we had brought the pyramid whip us and
Buck just intuitively set it up up in the den
right on the line, exactly follower rate on the line,

(02:08:08):
and strangely enough, on the line where he put it,
the energy was perfectly normal, like he was putting the
pyrapidd in that spot, made the line just straight. It
kept it the energy like go right. I don't know
how to explain. It was like a nice little dead
spot like okay, the permid dees what it's supposed to do,

(02:08:31):
or it just knew horises the energy. We believe that
prayer of the reason why the tea houses counted us
because of these intercepting lines, Yes, and why there's other
issues in the neighborhood with the intercepting lines. Now, was
there another big cartman slash dragon line on the other
side of the street. I can't remember. Yes, it went

(02:08:53):
right through the middle of the houses, just like it
dead on that side of the street. Okay, so we
have parallel lines and then we this one intersecting line
that's just messing up the energies. And of course the
murder House and the haunted House are exactly on the
intersecting line.

Speaker 4 (02:09:08):
That might be the only reason we're at the b House.
We don't really know, because we didn't get any activity inside.
Nobody really talked to us.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
We would get.

Speaker 4 (02:09:17):
Hents and clues, maybe one word that would circle back
to something else and connect with past experiences, but there
wasn't really a lot of new activity that came from
the house itself.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
Yeah, as weird too, because we got more information doing
SD's outside of the house. We did try to do
some spirtbox stuff in the house. We did try to
do knocking, We tried to EVPs, we tried all the
usual ways of getting activity in the house, and none
of it worked. When we were at our ARABNB though

(02:09:57):
we got all kinds of activity happening without all kinds
of information. Yeah, so everything was external like it's almost
like the house was in an all void state or something. Yeah,
I was in dead except for this came out of
energy that we felt. And strangely enough, on every sward
that we were on sily Force, every sport that we

(02:10:18):
were on, we ended up in that energy pool. I noticed.
We didn't go anywhere else in the house except for
no we tended to stay in them people.

Speaker 5 (02:10:30):
We did.

Speaker 4 (02:10:30):
Yeah, when we were in the attic, Buck was leaned
up against the chimney that would have come from Maimie's room.

Speaker 3 (02:10:38):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
Then we went down to Maymie's room and then the
dining room. Now, the only thing that did happen to
the house did welcome us. See, that's the thing that
throws me off to is the house did welcome us.
When we walked in, I got this weird feeling like, oh,
welcome back. Like I got that that rose red feelings
like it wanted us to be there. And then something

(02:11:00):
kept touching the side in my face or someone and
my hair. Somebody kept playing with my hair, and I
was like, okay, that's a nus. It's annoying. Hey you're back.
But it was more like a nice feeling. It wasn't
like oh, yeah, we're gonna haunt you. It was more like, oh,
we recognize your energy, recognize that your hair. When we
were on abbic because we went up there first. The
only feeling I had was the same playful, youthful energy

(02:11:24):
that I had picked up on when we dent the
remote investigation. But nothing wanted to talk to us or
come out. It was just there. It was just there. Yeah,
and you know, I hate one of those attic stairs.
Hear the crap out of me. I hate those stairs.
But once you get past the stairs and you're just
up there, it's really calm. Actually, both times they've been

(02:11:47):
up there, it's been really calm. We had a private investigation,
so we were basically handed the keys. A whole bunch
of things for have happened. But it was just very quiet.
As I started falsely factiation in the morning, I actually
literally was falsely That's how quiet it was. So overall,
What do you feel about the Fea House? What do
you feel like we went there? What is a lesson

(02:12:07):
we're supposed to learn here? Or well not, I'm not
really for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:12:14):
I know that we had a lot of synchronicities, a
lot of repeating numbers ones nine nineteen's. It's almost like
we we went full circle and we had to go
back to complete a phase or to complete something that
I'm not for sure what that is or why we

(02:12:37):
neither I know.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
We were supposed to go there, because the minute there
we started the journey, the number started happening rightway. What
online the nineteen was? You were saying, all of those
I saw the same numbers, eight eight eight Yeah, eight
eight eight. Oh my god, how many times everything started
to line up? For sure, there was this whole okay

(02:13:00):
we were getting ourselves into and then out there it
was like nul Voyd. We're like, oh gee, what's good.
We get there. It's okay.

Speaker 4 (02:13:07):
Now what I don't know why we're here. There's nothing
going on. Nothing is responding to us.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Why are we here? Why are we here? And it
was just weird because we have a whole thing with Rex,
which Rex's house got rid of that whole attachment thing,
So again all these exterior forces were needing to be
shifted with the actual house nothing, which was very interest.
On the way back home, you said you saw things.

Speaker 4 (02:13:35):
So once I got back on the Interstate, I was
driving and I passed some of the semis carrying the
NASCAR vehicles. But it happened to be the one the
racing team that I like to support, and then my
husband's guy because he's the NASCAR person. I just go

(02:13:57):
into the races and the tail. But tenth so his
he follows Chase Elliott, which is number nine. This is September.
And then the racing team nineteen is might Ie Martin Truix,
but his racing team Joe Gibs. Their numbers are eleven, nineteen,

(02:14:20):
twenty in twenty three, so all the numbers were on there,
and actually twenty is from here. My brother used to
know him or go to lunch with him.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
Accafley.

Speaker 4 (02:14:33):
There's a lot of connections with the numbers. But then
I was noticing after I took these pictures and got home.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
Nine is September. Then we had eleven, nineteen and twenty,
so September nineteenth and twenty is when we were at
the fee House in twenty three. I'm like, Okay, this
is weird. So I asked Heather, did anything significant happen
on September eleventh of this year and.

Speaker 32 (02:15:01):
What did you do?

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
Or what she say? On one to eleven? The first
week is the ding machine. We got it on two
days earlier, but we couldn't open it because of the kids,
and finally they went to bed early on nine to eleven,
and we're like, what do you want to do? And
let's pull off the ding machine. So we put it
together and we were playing with it and trying to
see what we could do with it, and we put

(02:15:24):
up the pyramid, and we realized that the pyramid had
something to do with it with energy, and.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
I was all like, that's weird. It was a football game.
We would just at my mom's watching football. There wasn't
really anything exciting that happened. But on the twenty third,
I started getting random.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
Text messages from a babysitting ad that I posted in
twenty eighteen. Apparently the ad is still active and out
there and people are starting to respond to it and
I'm getting notifications. So it's really weird. Yes, so nine

(02:16:08):
twenty three is the day that I got married. Yes,
so there's some weird connections. So there's some strange connections
with all those numbers. Yeah, nine nineteen we were at
the sea House. Yeah, nine nineteen was Sunday, So we
got there on the nineteenth and then we were there
overnight to the twentieth. Again, everything's lining up. There's all

(02:16:29):
these things even with the sds, we have our grandfather's names,
that would they actually match the sea house. There's all
these little correlations. What are we doing here? I don't know,
which seems to be part of for the course, it
seems yeah yeah, But if that'st they end up the

(02:16:51):
cycle in a completion, what the next go around? Eight
eight eight is still showing up everywhere.

Speaker 4 (02:17:04):
I logged into the old PTA email because apparently I'm
still the admin. I have tried to fix their website
being and mercury is freaking havoc. But the inbox is
at eight hundred and eighty eight unread messages, and I
have it opened because I'm waiting for Go Daddy to
respond to me, and it hasn't changed. No emails have

(02:17:27):
come through. The chaotic energy, let's say, because of those
lines that are intersecting, So that is going to amp
up the negative energy because of the intensity.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
Of maybe and her being in that location. I think
she's not just a signature.

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
I think there is an entity or something that is there,
and I don't know if those intersecting lines are part
of what keeping her.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
There or if it's just that is her energy and
so she likes being there and being in that.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
But there is something definitely going on at that house.
There's something off about it. The energy is different. I
don't think it's demonic. I don't think it's anything scary
or anything that's going to hurt somebody. Obviously there was
some sort of trickster energy that was attracted to that
place because it went home with Rex.

Speaker 2 (02:18:30):
But you have to be open to that.

Speaker 4 (02:18:32):
And it's playing on fears. So if you're afraid of
something like that is going to amplify. But it's nothing
to be scared of. I mean, if you want to investigate,
that's a great place to go and investigate because more
thanlikely something is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
Yeah, I would definitely vestin Ei there. I think Catherine
is there. I think there's an energy of her, either
somebody who taptain or is Catherine. I don't know. It
can be a Greg or just because you will talk
about it so much. I don't know if Frank is there.
I'm not sure if Frank is an actual entity or
frankis just dead like blust or residual energy. I don't know.

(02:19:10):
If they're trapped there, they at least want to be there,
like we said, I don't doesn't feel to be like
they're trump there. It feels to me like that was
like the best times of their lives. That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (02:19:22):
But you know what you just said about a Gregor
and what Kindred's spirits did. Maybe that's why they're on
different energetic levels and they didn't know each other.

Speaker 9 (02:19:32):
Was it.

Speaker 4 (02:19:33):
It's because Catherine is there or not there, or it's
not real Catherine, it's a created one.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
Yeah, it's hard to tell too. Maybe that's why everything
was external, not actually in the house, because it's just them.
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