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A film for 2024 called Heretek has everyone talking, but nobody's grasping when the
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occult symbolism hidden in play site.
Some people think it's an anti-mormon film, some people say it's anti-Christian, but to
me it's clearly showing us the dangers of the occult practices I've been podcasting
for 11 years talking about this exact subject.
11 being the number of magic is only fitting for you to join me today.
And the ultimate guide into coding the film, Heretek.
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And today's episode is the May 2025 bonus episode only for the supporters.
As you know, supporters keep the show alive, so in return I give them bonus content.
And today is a real doozy.
Let me tell you, we're going to walk through the ultimate symbolism guide for the film
Heretek starting Hugh Grant.
I'm going to walk you through this entire film, the cast crew, break down the hidden symbolism
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that connects us into the realm of LDS, Mormon, Sotarysism, magic underwear, free masonry,
the shining butterflies, Cern, Lucifer, the zeitgeist Christ conspiracy, which I will
debunk thoroughly as a Christian warrior, Mithra's horrors, etc.
Nostec simulation theory, Inoki and magic, the occult keys.
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And the meaning of the ending of this film, which if you've seen the film, you already know,
there's some strange activity going on here.
And if you knew there was some strange activity, you knew where to come.
So you are being enlightened into the ways of the occult.
So we're going to deep dive into a lot of these ancient practices and beliefs from Plato,
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to Nostecism, Saturn, Death and Rebirth rituals, ritual magic, the brotherhood of Saturn and
much, much more.
Get comfortable.
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It's going to be long.
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He's got hundreds of bonus episodes out there over the years.
I could unlock everything right now.
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And if you like what you hear and you're like, you know what, now's my time.
Now's my time.
Let's get into it.
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Dive in.
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Okay.
Now, and if you're already on the sport of feeds, Patreon, VIP section or Apple Premium,
much shout out to you.
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Thank you so much.
You're keeping the show alive.
I said it.
I mean it.
That is you.
I owe you my deepest gratitude.
Thank you.
Now, should you watch this movie heretic?
You know, I loved it.
It's a very, it's kind of a religious esoteric horror.
It's slightly more thriller than horror.
It's an A24 film.
So, you know, it's got a good chance of being great.
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Like baby girl, I love baby girl.
Thought that was a great movie.
I know a lot of you don't share the same opinion of films and that's okay.
That's okay.
That's all right.
A24, they also made that movie Anora.
I love that movie.
I thought that was great.
But heretic, we're talking about heretic.
It's 111 minutes long, right?
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An angel number when you see the three repeating numbers, right?
And I'm willing to bet.
I'm willing to bet cash money.
When you listen out there has got a 111 tattoo on your little wrist or something.
Guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
I'll put a wager on that.
Now, who's in it?
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Mr. Hugh Grant.
He plays the main character, Mr. Reed.
Oh, Hugh Grant.
Been around the world.
Been in a million films.
The King of Rom coms.
Also he was in a Roman Polanski film called "Bitter Moon."
He was also in "Cloud Atlas."
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And in "Cloud Atlas," which I haven't seen.
Apparently he had multiple roles, one of which was a cannibal.
He was also in "Umpa Lumpa" in the recent Twinkie, "Wonka."
Timothy Schallway.
I like Timothy Schallway.
That Bob Dylan movie sucked.
If you follow me on "Letter Box," you already saw what I thought of the Bob Dylan movie.
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What a bummer.
I didn't even finish it.
It's rare that I won't finish a movie.
I had to call it in.
I was two hours in.
I was like, "You got to be kidding me.
This is the Bob Dylan.
I lost respect for the guy.
He's so boring."
"Ahole."
Basically, that's the movie.
He's a boring "Ahole."
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Which makes sense because he said he sold a soul to the devil.
Remember that on, I don't know, that's 60 minutes interview.
Say he made a deal with the devil.
But we're picking on Hugh Grant right now.
Hugh Grant notoriously fumbled Liz Hurley.
In the 90s, he was messing around with these prostitutes during the AIDS epidemic, no less.
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Now, to his credit, to Hugh Grant's credit.
Who's she dating now?
Who do I see she's dating?
Billy Ray Cyrus?
Hugh Grant, you have fumbled the ball and you gave it to Billy Ray Cyrus, the mullet dude?
What are we doing?
To Hugh Grant's credit, at least he didn't hide behind sex addiction.
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That's what they all do now.
Oh, I'm addicted to sex.
No, you're just a philanthropist and a person.
And that's, you know, whatever.
Like no judgements.
Just own it, right?
And I get it.
You're rich and famous.
You get the peer, the D thrown out yet 24/7.
That's got to be very difficult.
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And she actually, Liz Hurley didn't leave Hugh Grant for messing around with the pros.
She left him five years later.
Why?
It's not of our business.
You know what I mean?
It's not any damn business.
But during the film, filming of hereditary, hereditary, I keep wanting to say hereditary.
Another great, I think it was an 824 film as well.
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During the filming of hereditary, he had a meltdown over the read through of the script
apparently.
And if you Google Hugh Grant Illuminati, the Google AI tells us there's no evidence he was
ever involved with the Illuminati.
So I guess no Illuminati confirmed for Hugh Grant as per our AI overlords.
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Now we've got a couple other main characters.
We got two LDS missionary characters.
One is Sister Barnes played by Sophie Thatcher.
Now she apparently was a Mormon at one time.
And she left the faith and said, I don't think it's evil.
I just don't think it's right for me.
I respect that.
She was actually in yellow jackets as Natalie, the kid version of Juliet Lewis.
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I got a lot of requests to finish season two of Yellow Jackets.
I'll get on it.
I love the first season.
It just went too long before the second season.
I forgot everything else.
That crap.
Now, she's from Chicago, but she actually lived in Silver Lake.
Los Angeles.
Silver Lake, the movie analysis that I'll never get done.
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Everybody always asks for it.
I'm going to get it done.
I'm going to get it done soon.
There's a couple movies on my radar of things people ask for that I promise you is going
to happen.
When I don't know, that includes, I'm going to do goonies for the Cheryl.
I'm going to do a fight club.
Someone keeps asking, I can't think of the name.
And under the silver lake, I keep getting requests for them.
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I'm going to do them.
It would be fair.
I also got tons of requests for Twin Peaks.
And you guys hated the hell out of that.
Okay.
55 episodes.
Yeah, I know.
I went a little off the deep end, but I'm back.
Okay.
I'm back.
I speeded Twin Peaks.
I made the gray lodge available on my gumroad store.
So if you are one of those folks that didn't want to sign up for the supporter feeds, but you
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always wondered what the 55 episode Twin Peaks occult symbolism deep dive was all about.
And you got like 50 hours to burn.
You can go buy it right now at gumroad.com/isacw2a's double awesome.
Okay.
Links are in the show notes.
Oh, as always, go pick up a soft t-shirt.
And depending on your hair in this, I've got a handful of Laura Palmer shirts and a handful
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of the free feed loser super soft shirts that if you buy the gray lodge on my gumroad,
and if I have supplies and stock, I will email you and tell you, hey, what size you are
home, homes, I would say home boy, but it might be a female.
I don't know.
Homey.
What size?
I'm gonna send.
I'm gonna send you a free t-shirt.
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What a deal.
It's 50 bucks, by the way, for the gray lodge series.
I know, or you could just pay five bucks a month to get in and just consume the whole thing,
but hey, some people don't want to do a picture on that fine.
Next character, Sister Paxon, Chloe East.
Mormon from San Clemente, California.
Then a minor character named Elder Kennedy played by Tover Grace.
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That's right, Air Forman from the 70s show.
A.K.A. the only one without the six degrees of separation to some crazy petal pito.
I'm trying to put the, I'm gonna put the previews on my YouTube and rumble and Spotify,
because I'm gonna be careful with my language, but you know what I'm about to say.
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And the rumors are, Tover Grace didn't like any of those creeps he was on the show with,
so, and I discussed this in that 70s show conspiracy, three-part deep dive link in the show notes.
And I had some people say they don't know where the show notes are.
Well, it depends on the app.
If you click on the app and, you know, if you Google or chat GPT, how do I find the show
notes for the podcast addict app or the Patreon app?
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It's right there what the show is.
When you hit play, if you just click that little show title again, it'll pull it up, links
in the show notes.
And then finally, we've got the written, produced, directed by Scott Beck and Brian Woods
from Iowa.
These guys created the story and co-wrote a quiet place with Jim from the office.
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Based upon conversations they've had over the years about religion and asking, you know,
why do we believe this stuff?
Why do we believe this?
And they said it was inspired by the film Contact as a film that discusses religion in a more
serious manner.
And they had apparently consulted some Mormon friends and the LDS church condemned the
film as violence against the female missionaries for obvious reasons, right?
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They said young adults all over the world for two years for missions.
I mean, I think it's voluntary.
Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure it's like a voluntary thing.
I don't know how much pressure is in the community to have young adults do this, but generally
from when I understand it, from the ages of 18 to 20, they do a mission and they get
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sent somewhere wherever the church wants them to go and they walk around for two years,
trying to convert people.
The budget for this film was $10 million, quite the steel grossing well over $50 million.
So in conclusion with the cast and crew, we're not off to a real hot illuminate confirmed
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start.
Sometimes you dig into the cast and crew and directors of these films and you say, my God,
my God, it's full of stars.
It's full of a cult symbolism, not yet, not on this one, but I guarantee you the film is,
let's get into the film.
Plots, boys, common.
You've been warned for a shot.
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It appears to be, I don't know, Twin Peaks vibes.
I got a little excited for a second, but we're actually in Boulder, Colorado.
Now Colorado curious location to choose to allegedly the home of the secret society, a
rumor we've heard many times over and over as well as the, you know, the Denver airports
out there with the Underground Aliens that Bill Cooper talks about.
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So we're off to a curious location and we're introduced to the two missionaries of the
movie and they're discussing marketing.
Tom on the size of rubbers and they say that magnums are the same size as the regulars.
I'd never heard that.
They talk about the size of men's units.
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They use the term P for penis.
They won't say the word penis.
They'll say P. And then they have a conversation about watching porn, both pretend they don't
watch it, but it feels like the one kind of does.
And this is really, I mean, they nailed the Utah vibes for sure, right?
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If you talk to, and this isn't a diss, you know, I love my Mormon brother and an sister
and but there's a real in generalities, like a real sort of innocent vibe they put out.
They don't swear.
They'll say, they'll say Fuh instead of the FUCK word.
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They'll say shiz instead of SHIT.
They'll say, Fing, you know, and all those things you hear in this movie in the dialogue,
you know, say to people talk like that and you talk absolutely 100% they do.
That's very strange, especially the dog open the East Coast, listen to an Howard Stern.
What are you talking about?
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So they discuss about how God showed them that the church is true.
Again, this is very typical LDS talking Utah.
And sister Barnes, she's got some doubts, but you can tell sister Paxton, she's sort of
the true believer, the naive sort of, she's all in, man.
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And they're doing this thing, they're walking around, some girls ridicule them, they put on
the skirts and they're yelling about magic underwear.
And if you don't know what this is, the LDS folks, they wear white garments underneath their
clothes.
And from what I understand, they're supposed to always be worn even during sexy time.
I'll call it not so sexy time.
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Apparently, they're supposed to always wear these.
And I don't know the reality of that practice if that's really what happens.
But if you live in Utah, you'll see a lot of LDS people, the walk around, they always have
like white shirts underneath their shirt and stuff.
So I'm taking more seriously than others.
I guess old-timey LDS folks used to put on these garments and when they would take a bath,
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they would sort of like roll up the sleeve, wash the arm, roll the sleeve down.
Roll up the other sleeve, wash the arm, roll the other sleeve down.
Like that's how they would wash with the thing on.
Which is crazy.
But then back then, they only took a bath like once a month, right?
And allegedly, the magic underwear have symbols sewn into them, the compass and the square.
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There's an L on the right chest, a V on the left chest and two horizontal marks, one at
the navel and one over the right knee.
And of course, the compass and square comes from Freemasonry, because Joseph Smith, the
founder of Mormonism, was a Freemason and is the reflection of ads above so below.
It's an occult idea.
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The compasses the heavens, the squares the earth, all right?
This goes back through Platonic solids with Plato on the cube, which we're going to come
back to Saturn.
It's a heavy duty element of this movie.
So these two missionaries are walking around and they get to Mr. Retaus and they're going
to meet this guy who was interested in hearing the message.
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They pull up to the house on their little bicycles.
It's just the barn says, this is it.
Now, that's an LDS phrase.
That's a coded phrase.
Because Brigham Young, when he got into Salt Lake, he looked out on the vista and said,
this is it.
And they have a, I think it's called the Heritage Park in Salt Lake.
It's called this is it, Heritage Park.
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That's the whole thing, right?
And when barns, you'll notice, Sister Barnes pulls her phone out.
She has a list of names and contacts who they need to go talk to to try to convert.
And at the bottom there, at the house that currently are at is Mr. Reed.
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That's Hugh Grant, okay?
So they're at Mr. Retaus and you'll notice the address is 237 Walnut Street.
Now, the 237 is a reference to the shining, which could totally distract us and take us
down this Kubrickian rabbit hole of MK Ultramine Control, which is kind of an element of the
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film here from what Mr. Reed ends up doing, including the monarch butterfly, which we're
going to talk heavily about on this episode, which is seen in the shining and heretic.
They're both in Colorado, but we're not going to go down that rabbit hole right now.
And also how interesting is that we never, in the credits, not in the movie, we never get
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the name, the first name of Mr. Reed.
He has no first name, which reminds me of the powers of a magician.
They take on magical names, specifically in the LDS.
They do a similar practice.
They get a secret name in the temple and down with ceremony because they get sort of initiated
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into this thing.
So anyway, they're out front.
They're at this play on the shining house and it starts raining on them as they're at
the door.
And Sister Barnes says, "All right, let's get to the baptism."
Now, again, I mean, we're barely five minutes into this movie at this point.
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It's raining on them and they say, "Let's get to the baptism."
And they're about to be baptized.
The water is literally hitting them right now.
Baptized into the occult.
It's a bit of an inversion.
They're not there to baptize Mr. Reed.
Mr. Reed has them there to baptize them.
So the knock on the door, he answers it.
He invites them inside and they're like, "Hey, we can't come into the house unless there's
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another woman present for their safety, of course."
And he says, "Well, yeah, wife, he's home.
Come on in."
She's got to pine the oven for you.
So they're going and he says something really on to them when they walk in.
He says, "The walls and ceilings have metal in them.
I hope that's okay."
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This is a falsany and sort of bargain.
We're going to cover that later.
They get inside.
They look around the room in the front room there, the living room.
And you'll notice the owl figure in the living room, all right?
The owl, of course, symbolizes the Athena, the goddess.
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And part of the argument from Mr. Reed, which we're going to dig deep into when it gets
there, is going to be this idea of these ancient religions that Christianity supposedly copied,
going back to sun worship and even older is actually moon worship.
And the owl is linked to the goddess worship of Athena or Lilith or Sophia, the goddess
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of wisdom, the divine feminine, which is part of the gnostic idea that we're living in
a false reality with a false god.
And you'll also see the owl at Bohemian Grove or even in Twin Pink, so as you know.
And it symbolizes a bit of the guardian of the occult truth.
And Barnes looks around and she also sees a window that's in the shape of a hexagon with
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a butterfly in it, double, double, illuminate, confirmed trouble.
Because what we got here is with the flattened hexagon, it's a two dimensional rendering of
the three dimensional cube, which is symbolic for Saturn, all right?
And again, you can tie into the free Masonic, Conversant Square, the Platonic Solid.
The Saturn is symbolic of the material realm.
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It's a gnostic view in reference to Saturn or Chronos.
And it gets kind of complicated, it gets into the second law of entropy, decay of the material
realm.
But it represents the demirge evil force, subjecting us into this prison planet where through
the supposed deception of Abrahamic religions, we worshiped this false god, the false demirge.
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And the gnostic are like trying to wake people up to be like, hey, you're worshiping the wrong
god.
You got to worship the correct god.
Because Saturn is, it represents, in the brotherhood of Saturn, represents the final cosmic
test, the final gateway for the initiate to overcome.
Again with the Kubrickian stuff, 2001 of Space Odyssey depicts this very well, right?
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In the Arthur C. Clark novel form of the movie, Commander Bowman, Bowman, he gets out there
by the wormhole, Saturn guided by the monolith, the alien intelligence, which enlightens him
and sends him down the wormhole, where he becomes an ascended master.
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It's a, the Saturn represents the cosmic gateway with which one can overcome their fear
and become a master of their own reality.
And it can, with the twin peaks.
And in my season two, like three hour wrap up episode, we talked about this.
That was Dale Cooper.
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Stuck in the lodge, trying to cross the abyss.
It was this Saturnian cosmic gateway test.
But also on top of the Saturn reference, we have the butterfly, which symbolizes transformation.
All right.
In the MK Ultra Project Monarch, it's done through trauma-based mind control, but it also
just in regular symbolism symbolizes the awakening or the transformation of the character, the
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enlightenment of these ladies into Mr. Reads, occult worldview.
Now Mr. Reads, he has them sit on the couch, he goes out back, gets some drinkies, gets
a little candle, and they start a conversation about Heavenly Father's plan for him.
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And we find out through the conversation that Sister Paxton is from Ogden, Utah, Sister
Barnes is from Philly, but then she moved to Salt Lake.
And I think that's done on purpose.
She's not as steeped in the culture and beliefs.
There's this thing that in Utah, a lot of the LDS folks here sort of take on a different
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vibe from out of state LDS folks, from what I understand of the culture.
The ones in Utah are a little more religious, I guess, the best way of putting that.
The ones out of state are a little more of the world, so to speak, or it's a good presentation
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of such.
And that's very on the nose to these two characters, right?
Sister Barnes has a little more street smart.
Sister Paxton is like, "I wonder if a P would feel good."
You know?
Because that's really how they talk.
Now, Mr. Reed, he talked about the struggle of knowing what is the one true religion.
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But he does think it's important to be religious, but as we're going to find out the one true
religion and the religion that he thinks should be important is Nosticism, or the Saturnian
death cult.
And Mr. Reed, we find out knows way more about LDS history than he let on.
He spits out the entire story of Joseph Smith being visited by Maroni, which led him to
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the Golden plates and he wrote the book of Mormon, which he pulls out to show the girls.
He's like, "See?
I got it."
He's got all of them books on lock.
So Mr. Reed asks Sister Barnes if she's had any signs from her dead father since he passed.
Paxton says, "Well, you know, when I die, I'm going to come back as a butterfly to visit
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all the my loved ones.
And when I come back, I'm going to land right on their hand, right on their fingertips.
So they know it's me."
At this point, most of the lights in the house cut out and all of a sudden Mr. Reed says,
"It's time for pie and enlightenment."
And I'm thinking along the lines of pie or P as in 3.14 or the golden ratio, which is
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half of that, which is fee, again, sacred geometry, esoteric thought.
He says to them, "How do you feel about awkward questions?
But you know as a standup for something terrible coming soon."
And he asks them how they feel about polygamy.
I mean, he wants the smoke, right?
And that's the LDS controversy.
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And the thing shifts pretty hard.
He knows way more than he's letting on and they're starting to feel it.
And Mr. Reed thinks Joseph Smith used polygamy as a way to defend all of his extramarital
affairs.
And he says, "If revelation by God is filtered through man and man lies, how do we know it's
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true?"
Mr. Paxing says, "Well, it's more about how it makes you feel."
So Mr. Reed starts talking about fast food.
Do you want the light in the mode a little bit, right?
And it turns out it's just another lesson for him to teach the girls about the different
religions.
Take a listen to how this goes down.
What about Taco Bell?
We don't talk about Taco Bell.
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Why don't we talk about Taco Bell?
We'd have to talk about Taco Bell to talk about why we don't talk about Taco Bell.
All right, so Burger King is number one.
And I think it's trash.
Right.
Not jacking the box.
I vote Wendy's.
I could support.
Good.
Wendy's it is.
Do you know I've never had a Wendy?
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I came out wrong.
That's OK.
So when I started studying theology, the last thing I wanted to do was find the Wendy's
of religions.
I was just writing a research paper for a college class and I was content with doubling.
So some luck it's here.
BK Wapper over there would have fit the mood.
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As I studied the genres, McDbK in and out, IE, Mormonism, Scientology, Islam, Buddhism,
and I got closer to God through genre and rigorous study.
As I worked on my personal relationship with Heavenly Father and I think strengthened
in, do you know what I found?
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The more you know, the less you know.
And by the time I was 50, I was malnourished from the fast food of religion.
I'd been packing into my brain for the best part of a decade.
Every sect, cult, creed, denominational, claimed to be the one true doctrine and yet none seemed
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true when held under the microscope.
So I wondered what else was out there.
I promise you, the last thing I wanted to do was find the one true religion.
But unfortunately I did.
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Can we meet your wife, please?
Of course, yes.
She just has to be present and we want to meet her as well.
Sorry, I'll go ask.
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Now things get weird real quick because they won't talk about Taco Bell.
Why?
More importantly, Mr. Reed is saying that fast food is like religion.
You have to kind of check all of them out, get a little taste of everything, which is what
you hear a lot from the story of Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, they travel around the
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world sampling and taking a variety of different flavors of different religions.
That's what Pythagoras did as well, right?
They called it synthesizing various religions.
And when you read into what's the book?
You guys know the book, The Golden Ball.
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He goes around and he's like, "Hey, these are all kind of similar."
Mr. Reed says, "The more you know, the less you know."
Meaning the more religion he consumed, the more confused he was, just like eating all fast
food all the time.
And he said, "Look, none of these seem very true until I found the one true religion,
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which we're going to come back to."
And the girls, they start tripping.
They're like, "Hey, where's Wifey at?"
Because that was the whole deal.
We need a woman in here.
And Mr. Reed is like, "Okay, I'm going head to the back and see how she's coming along with
that blueberry pie."
Well, Sister Barnes being the street smart girl.
She looks at the candle and spins it around and says it's blueberry pie candle.
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So now they're like, "Oh snap, there's no Wifey, there's no blueberry pie.
This guy's crazy."
And they look at each other and they're like, "We got to get out of here."
But they can't.
Because the front door is locked, I think, at this point.
So Mr. Reed, he's in the back of this dark house, on this dark alleyway.
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And he yells from there.
He's like, "Come on back, ladies."
And what's the time to go back to this dark-ass house?
And then Sister Barnes fakes.
She's like, "Oh, I got a phone call."
And they're like, "Look, we're just going to go out of this front door and run out."
But they find that the key to unlock their bikes is in Paxton's coat, which Mr. Reed already
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took with him.
And they're like, "That's fine.
We don't need the bikes.
We're just going to walk."
But the front door is locked, like I said.
So they can't get out of it.
No matter how they want to do this.
So this time they for real, for real, try to call somebody.
But the phone is no signal.
For sure, a timer switches off, and now the whole house is dark.
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So they do what one naturally does in a horror movie, and they decide they're going to walk
towards the back of this dark house, to where Mr. Reed is.
And there's a moment when they're walking down this dark hallway, and there's this dark
figure in the hallway, and they kind of cautiously walk up to it.
Turns out it's just a statue.
But wait, what's the statue of?
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I ran it to my expert analysis software, and meaning I took a screenshot and then looked
on the Google, which by the way, if you're on my Instagram, you can see the screenshots for
this movie that I'm talking about.
At Isaac Wiseau on Instagram, follow, like, and subscribe.
You see all the images I will discuss today.
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Or if you watch the video version of this, I'm going to start putting images on there.
It takes me a heck of a long time, but I'm going to start putting the images as I speak on
the video, which you can access Tier 2 at the Patreon, right?
Or Tier 2 on VIP section.
You get access to the early access ad free bonus content videos.
Oh my goodness.
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So they walk back.
There's a statue, and that statue turns out to be Plato.
And the caption says that there's a song playing that's called just like a butterfly that's
caught in the ring.
Lots going on here, right?
We've got that butterfly, the metamorphosis thing.
We already saw the butterfly once already.
We heard Sister Pax then talking about how she wanted to reincarnate as a butterfly.
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My goodness.
What's going on with the butterfly?
And what's up with the statue?
Well, Plato's the big dog.
He's the one who started off all this thinking and philosophizing.
He's the first to suggest that maybe the material world is a prison planet.
It's like the Plato's cave, the allegory of Plato's cave, it's the same idea.
Maybe we're just looking at shadows on the wall.
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And the simulation, the Gnostic Prison Planet is merely a shadow.
From here you go into Neo-Platonism, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Theosophy, New Age, Quantum Thinking,
and AI overlords and the Digital Matrix.
And that's how this is going to go.
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So that statue of Plato to me is a major clue.
Major clue.
So they go through a door and they enter this big room that's set up like a church, it's
got pews and an altar, various religious pieces.
You see a statue of Shiva?
That's right, Shiva.
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And there's a connection to Surn that I said that we would talk about because at Surn, there
is a large statue of Shiva, the destroyer, out front, because Shiva is the destroyer that
dissolves illusion.
So while Surn is splitting atoms, making millions of mini-black holes that could consume us all
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one day, as they try to unlock the primomateria of alchemy to unlock the philosopher's stone,
which was the Higgs boson, God particle.
But they could also be time-traveling, who knows?
And what's interesting is that in the next scene, right after this, we're going to go through
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this church scene thing, the women end up going downstairs to be initiated, right?
Going underground is Illuminaic Affirm 101.
Like Surn, they do the atomic blasting underground, like Alice in Wonderland.
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So Surn just running an Alice test of some kind, it's called Alice.
Anyway, so they tell us to read, like, "Oh, we got Deb."
I really like what you're doing in here and the blueberry pie smells great, but we got
a roll.
And we're going to need our coats back, you know, and they get their coats back and they're
feeling for that bike lock key.
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But now it's a sister Paxton's coat, not sister bard's coat, so they look at church
like, "What?
Why is that?"
It's because sister Paxton is the chosen one and we're going to find out why.
So they asked Mr. Reed for help opening this front door and he says, "Oh, well, it won't
open."
And they're like, "Yeah, that's what we said.
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We need help opening."
And he's like, "No, no, no, no, you don't understand.
It won't open.
The dead bolts are on a timer.
So now if you want to leave, you got to leave through the rear of the house."
But these girls, they're not feeling it.
But he says, "I don't know what to tell you.
The front door is locked on the timer until morning, so if you want to go, you just got
to walk through, you know, walk through my little seller back door here."
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And of course, they're like not feeling that.
And Mr. Reed, he goes into big speech mode saying about how, you know, you got a lot of
kick it because he knows that they can't receive phone calls and they were panicking, trying
to call people.
He's like, "Full?"
I'll swore.
He's like, "Full?
I almost, I specifically asked you if you were okay with metal in the walls and ceilings
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when you arrived."
And you said, "Yes."
And this is a huge part of this.
He's like, "You were free to leave on your own accord at any time."
And this is what, this is the nonsense.
This is the free will nonsense.
It's very Luciferian.
It's very deceptive.
He technically asked them, but as you already know, it's manipulative and deceptive.
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If he would have said, "Hey, if you come in here and are you okay that your phone won't
work and the front door is going to be locked?"
They would have said, "No."
But he deceptively manipulated them in and didn't tell the truth.
Which is very Luciferian, right?
That's a very jerk thing to do.
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So Sister Barnes asks them, "I'm not playing these games.
How do we get out of here?
Which door do we need to go out?"
Because there's two doors.
Big speech mode activated again.
He says, "Well, do you believe my wife is in the next room?
Despite all of the evidence so far, are you indulging a lie?"
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Then he puts us in context to their religion.
Do you believe?
Because you were told to believe?
Even though you have all this evidence on the contrary.
Sister Barnes, she's like, "All right, dude.
She chooses a door because she's over him and she opens it.
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But what is inside on the other side of that door is a dark, scare case to a basement.
Which as you know in any horror movie, you don't want to go down those stairs."
So she closes the door.
She tries the other door.
Nope.
Same thing.
Another dark, stairway to a basement.
It's not the backyard or the garden as the English would say.
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Meanwhile, at the local LDS church, State President Elder Kennedy, that's Topra Grace.
He's in the church mopping around looking at the nasty old storm outside.
He looks at his little list of missionaries and he realizes, "Sister Barnes hasn't checked
in today with them."
He's like, "Hmm.
What are she is?"
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Back to Mr. Rethouse.
He hits them with a riddle on how they can choose between the two doors.
He pulls out a monopoly game, queues up the song by the Hollies, the air that I breathe
on vinyl.
And he compares the monopoly to the Bible.
He's like, "Look, this is picked up by over a billion people, but only finished by a few."
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Then he pulls out the landlord's game, which is the predecessor to monopoly, which you're
going to hear about.
I'm going to play the clip.
The original game, which was created by a feminist, to teach about the Eel's of Capitalism.
And then as capitalism would consume its own self, some guy stole it from her and caught
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up a monopoly and made it a pro-capitalism game.
Anyway, he talks about the teachings being iterations, implying that religion does the
same thing.
And he also compares it to the Hollies song, which got chopped and screwed over the years
similarly.
Take a listen.
Come back to that.
You are a you not monotheistic.
We believe in Heavenly Father, yes.
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Okay.
There are three major monotheistic religions.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
I call them the big three.
Judaism, i.e. the original edition, Christianity, i.e. the most popular edition, and Islam.
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The newer, second most popular edition.
May I see your book of Mormon, please?
I'll give it back.
Thank you.
Finally, after 800 years, this Mormonism, i.e. the Zaini Regional Spinoff edition.
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These are all its erissions of the same source material.
These texts share many of the same characters and histories or be it presented with different
meanings and perspectives.
So no, I will not accept that you stand there and tell me that you never heard the air that
I breathe by the Hollies when I know that you have heard Crump.
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I radio it.
Oh yes you remember.
Come on.
What the hell am I doing?
I know these are things you're thinking right now, but they're also lyrics you recognize.
Yes.
Yes.
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The Hollies file the plagiarism lawsuit against radiohead which they later settled by proving
that the melody and rhythm of the erudite breath of peer in creep.
How old are you?
19 or 20?
Something like that.
Maybe you know Lana Del Rey, who remarkably was sued by radiohead for plagiarizing creep
in her 2017 song Get Free.
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Itterations.
Over time.
Diluting the message.
Obscuring.
The original.
Chuteism is the OG monotheistic religion.
We should buy a wide margin and have the most number of practicing members and yet it makes
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up only 0.2% of the world's population.
Why is that?
Why is the original less popular than the Isiration?
Is it any less true than the others?
Are we talking about religion or board games or music?
Yes.
It has the furious members because it doesn't advertise.
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It doesn't have people like you.
Looking on doors.
Selling people a better life for better board game than a song.
You ever think about that?
Out missionaries are really just salespeople for an organisation.
The product you're selling is an idea.
You knock on my door and you sell.
Maybe I buy, maybe I don't buy.
Those are the rules of engagement when I invite you into my house.
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We are negotiating a transaction of ideologies.
What I'm trying to say to you tonight is that I have an idea which I would like to sell
to you.
So we ask about their beliefs in monotheism, right?
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Worshiping one singular God.
And how the big three, those Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity.
And it spins off into talk about Mormonism and such.
And how basically all these iterations come from the same source material like the Holly
song, which was part of radiohead song, creep and then Lana Del Rey's get free.
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They all dilute and obscure the original song.
He says, "Religious is the same thing."
And the thing that makes LDS Mormonism more popular than Judaism is the advertising because
they have active salesmen.
And then he says, "He has an idea he wants to sell them."
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Why does he say this?
I believe this is an initiation and indoctrination into him starting a new religion.
Him trying to popularize a flavor of saturnian nosticism.
And here's where it gets interesting because he goes through all these ideas of the religious
iterations being a conduit to a more ancient truth.
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And this is something you've heard about a million times from Zeitgeist to the late and great
Jordan Maxwell.
Even David I, one of my red pill daddies, talked about this.
But I'm going to debunk all that here in a second.
And you're going to hear this clip.
And what you're going to hear in case you're not watching the video version of this.
You're going to hear him talk about these religious iterations and then it's going to be mixed
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in with clips of Elder Kennedy trying to search for the missionary.
So don't get too confused when it sounds like the audio changes.
Here you go.
My argument is that the holy text which we revere are just mythological iterations of stories
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which ancient people have been telling each other for centuries.
And not true or real in any literal sense.
They are merely a conduit to a more ancient truth.
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The story of a saviour who was born to a virgin, who could perform miracles and was super
naturally resurrected, was a very popular story for at least a thousand years before Jesus
was born.
One of them has blonde hair, one of them is brunette, both dressed similar.
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No, never stopped by.
Mitzress.
Before miracles he was marked by the sign of the cross.
Oras.
Walked on water was crucified, had 12 disciples.
Krishna, he was a carpenter, born to a virgin, baptized in the river, rose from the dead and
ascended into heaven.
This little gallery, the picture, 12 gods who were born on December 25th, all of whom, predate
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the existence of Jesus.
I am sorry, but is it impossible to ignore the influence of one narrative upon another?
Before to ignore the fact that all these stories iterate into Star Wars, episode 1, the Fanta
Menace.
Can you imagine thousands of years from now people accepting Jar Jar as a significant religious
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figure?
So Mr. Reed, he goes through basically the same claims made on the Zeitgeist documentary,
documentary in quotes.
He's like, look, all these religions are the same.
Not born of a virgin, birth, performed miracles, resurrected.
You know, born on December 25th.
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He says all these gods, Krishna, Horus, Mitzress, they're all the same thing.
Same thing as Christ, same story.
And this is the thing that bugs me because...
Alright, call the music, call the music.
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I'm going to walk you through the rest of this movie and I'm going to prove to you that
Mr. Reed is trying to initiate these ladies into his Saturnian death cult.
There you go.
That's kind of what it is.
We talk about the lost keys of free masonry and mis-fistophelian activities, dottas and
ferno, it goes on and on and on.
But we talk about how important the symbolism of the butterfly is and Saturn and how it fits
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into this nosticism, loose of fairy and idea that Mr. Reed is apparently very into and then
it even connects into some of the symbolism that you find at the end of the movie when our
characters, they go through some initiation sequences underground, going through various
chambers and there's some hidden symbolism on the door that connects into the inokian language.
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[Music]
A film for 2024 called Heretek has everyone talking, but nobody's grasping when the
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occult symbolism hidden in play site.
Some people think it's an anti-mormon film, some people say it's anti-Christian, but to
me it's clearly showing us the dangers of the occult practices I've been podcasting
for 11 years talking about this exact subject.
11 being the number of magic is only fitting for you to join me today.
And the ultimate guide into coding the film, Heretek.
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Let me tell you, we're going to walk through the ultimate symbolism guide for the film
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I'm going to walk you through this entire film, the cast crew, break down the hidden symbolism
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that connects us into the realm of LDS, Mormon, Sotarysism, magic underwear, free masonry,
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And the meaning of the ending of this film, which if you've seen the film, you already know,
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And if you knew there was some strange activity, you knew where to come.
So you are being enlightened into the ways of the occult.
So we're going to deep dive into a lot of these ancient practices and beliefs from Plato,
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to Nostecism, Saturn, Death and Rebirth rituals, ritual magic, the brotherhood of Saturn and
much, much more.
Get comfortable.
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Thank you so much.
You're keeping the show alive.
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Thank you.
Now, should you watch this movie heretic?
You know, I loved it.
It's a very, it's kind of a religious esoteric horror.
It's slightly more thriller than horror.
It's an A24 film.
So, you know, it's got a good chance of being great.
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Like baby girl, I love baby girl.
Thought that was a great movie.
I know a lot of you don't share the same opinion of films and that's okay.
That's okay.
That's all right.
A24, they also made that movie Anora.
I love that movie.
I thought that was great.
But heretic, we're talking about heretic.
It's 111 minutes long, right?
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An angel number when you see the three repeating numbers, right?
And I'm willing to bet.
I'm willing to bet cash money.
When you listen out there has got a 111 tattoo on your little wrist or something.
Guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
I'll put a wager on that.
Now, who's in it?
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Mr. Hugh Grant.
He plays the main character, Mr. Reed.
Oh, Hugh Grant.
Been around the world.
Been in a million films.
The King of Rom coms.
Also he was in a Roman Polanski film called "Bitter Moon."
He was also in "Cloud Atlas."
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And in "Cloud Atlas," which I haven't seen.
Apparently he had multiple roles, one of which was a cannibal.
He was also in "Umpa Lumpa" in the recent Twinkie, "Wonka."
Timothy Schallway.
I like Timothy Schallway.
That Bob Dylan movie sucked.
If you follow me on "Letter Box," you already saw what I thought of the Bob Dylan movie.
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What a bummer.
I didn't even finish it.
It's rare that I won't finish a movie.
I had to call it in.
I was two hours in.
I was like, "You got to be kidding me.
This is the Bob Dylan.
I lost respect for the guy.
He's so boring."
"Ahole."
Basically, that's the movie.
He's a boring "Ahole."
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Which makes sense because he said he sold a soul to the devil.
Remember that on, I don't know, that's 60 minutes interview.
Say he made a deal with the devil.
But we're picking on Hugh Grant right now.
Hugh Grant notoriously fumbled Liz Hurley.
In the 90s, he was messing around with these prostitutes during the AIDS epidemic, no less.
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Now, to his credit, to Hugh Grant's credit.
Who's she dating now?
Who do I see she's dating?
Billy Ray Cyrus?
Hugh Grant, you have fumbled the ball and you gave it to Billy Ray Cyrus, the mullet dude?
What are we doing?
To Hugh Grant's credit, at least he didn't hide behind sex addiction.
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That's what they all do now.
Oh, I'm addicted to sex.
No, you're just a philanthropist and a person.
And that's, you know, whatever.
Like no judgements.
Just own it, right?
And I get it.
You're rich and famous.
You get the peer, the D thrown out yet 24/7.
That's got to be very difficult.
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And she actually, Liz Hurley didn't leave Hugh Grant for messing around with the pros.
She left him five years later.
Why?
It's not of our business.
You know what I mean?
It's not any damn business.
But during the film, filming of hereditary, hereditary, I keep wanting to say hereditary.
Another great, I think it was an 824 film as well.
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During the filming of hereditary, he had a meltdown over the read through of the script
apparently.
And if you Google Hugh Grant Illuminati, the Google AI tells us there's no evidence he was
ever involved with the Illuminati.
So I guess no Illuminati confirmed for Hugh Grant as per our AI overlords.
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Now we've got a couple other main characters.
We got two LDS missionary characters.
One is Sister Barnes played by Sophie Thatcher.
Now she apparently was a Mormon at one time.
And she left the faith and said, I don't think it's evil.
I just don't think it's right for me.
I respect that.
She was actually in yellow jackets as Natalie, the kid version of Juliet Lewis.
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I got a lot of requests to finish season two of Yellow Jackets.
I'll get on it.
I love the first season.
It just went too long before the second season.
I forgot everything else.
That crap.
Now, she's from Chicago, but she actually lived in Silver Lake.
Los Angeles.
Silver Lake, the movie analysis that I'll never get done.
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Everybody always asks for it.
I'm going to get it done.
I'm going to get it done soon.
There's a couple movies on my radar of things people ask for that I promise you is going
to happen.
When I don't know, that includes, I'm going to do goonies for the Cheryl.
I'm going to do a fight club.
Someone keeps asking, I can't think of the name.
And under the silver lake, I keep getting requests for them.
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I'm going to do them.
It would be fair.
I also got tons of requests for Twin Peaks.
And you guys hated the hell out of that.
Okay.
55 episodes.
Yeah, I know.
I went a little off the deep end, but I'm back.
Okay.
I'm back.
I speeded Twin Peaks.
I made the gray lodge available on my gumroad store.
So if you are one of those folks that didn't want to sign up for the supporter feeds, but you
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always wondered what the 55 episode Twin Peaks occult symbolism deep dive was all about.
And you got like 50 hours to burn.
You can go buy it right now at gumroad.com/isacw2a's double awesome.
Okay.
Links are in the show notes.
Oh, as always, go pick up a soft t-shirt.
And depending on your hair in this, I've got a handful of Laura Palmer shirts and a handful
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of the free feed loser super soft shirts that if you buy the gray lodge on my gumroad,
and if I have supplies and stock, I will email you and tell you, hey, what size you are
home, homes, I would say home boy, but it might be a female.
I don't know.
Homey.
What size?
I'm gonna send.
I'm gonna send you a free t-shirt.
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What a deal.
It's 50 bucks, by the way, for the gray lodge series.
I know, or you could just pay five bucks a month to get in and just consume the whole thing,
but hey, some people don't want to do a picture on that fine.
Next character, Sister Paxon, Chloe East.
Mormon from San Clemente, California.
Then a minor character named Elder Kennedy played by Tover Grace.
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That's right, Air Forman from the 70s show.
A.K.A. the only one without the six degrees of separation to some crazy petal pito.
I'm trying to put the, I'm gonna put the previews on my YouTube and rumble and Spotify,
because I'm gonna be careful with my language, but you know what I'm about to say.
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And the rumors are, Tover Grace didn't like any of those creeps he was on the show with,
so, and I discussed this in that 70s show conspiracy, three-part deep dive link in the show notes.
And I had some people say they don't know where the show notes are.
Well, it depends on the app.
If you click on the app and, you know, if you Google or chat GPT, how do I find the show
notes for the podcast addict app or the Patreon app?
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It's right there what the show is.
When you hit play, if you just click that little show title again, it'll pull it up, links
in the show notes.
And then finally, we've got the written, produced, directed by Scott Beck and Brian Woods
from Iowa.
These guys created the story and co-wrote a quiet place with Jim from the office.
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Based upon conversations they've had over the years about religion and asking, you know,
why do we believe this stuff?
Why do we believe this?
And they said it was inspired by the film Contact as a film that discusses religion in a more
serious manner.
And they had apparently consulted some Mormon friends and the LDS church condemned the
film as violence against the female missionaries for obvious reasons, right?
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They said young adults all over the world for two years for missions.
I mean, I think it's voluntary.
Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure it's like a voluntary thing.
I don't know how much pressure is in the community to have young adults do this, but generally
from when I understand it, from the ages of 18 to 20, they do a mission and they get
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sent somewhere wherever the church wants them to go and they walk around for two years,
trying to convert people.
The budget for this film was $10 million, quite the steel grossing well over $50 million.
So in conclusion with the cast and crew, we're not off to a real hot illuminate confirmed
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start.
Sometimes you dig into the cast and crew and directors of these films and you say, my God,
my God, it's full of stars.
It's full of a cult symbolism, not yet, not on this one, but I guarantee you the film is,
let's get into the film.
Plots, boys, common.
You've been warned for a shot.
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It appears to be, I don't know, Twin Peaks vibes.
I got a little excited for a second, but we're actually in Boulder, Colorado.
Now Colorado curious location to choose to allegedly the home of the secret society, a
rumor we've heard many times over and over as well as the, you know, the Denver airports
out there with the Underground Aliens that Bill Cooper talks about.
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So we're off to a curious location and we're introduced to the two missionaries of the
movie and they're discussing marketing.
Tom on the size of rubbers and they say that magnums are the same size as the regulars.
I'd never heard that.
They talk about the size of men's units.
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They use the term P for penis.
They won't say the word penis.
They'll say P. And then they have a conversation about watching porn, both pretend they don't
watch it, but it feels like the one kind of does.
And this is really, I mean, they nailed the Utah vibes for sure, right?
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If you talk to, and this isn't a diss, you know, I love my Mormon brother and an sister
and but there's a real in generalities, like a real sort of innocent vibe they put out.
They don't swear.
They'll say, they'll say Fuh instead of the FUCK word.
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They'll say shiz instead of SHIT.
They'll say, Fing, you know, and all those things you hear in this movie in the dialogue,
you know, say to people talk like that and you talk absolutely 100% they do.
That's very strange, especially the dog open the East Coast, listen to an Howard Stern.
What are you talking about?
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So they discuss about how God showed them that the church is true.
Again, this is very typical LDS talking Utah.
And sister Barnes, she's got some doubts, but you can tell sister Paxton, she's sort of
the true believer, the naive sort of, she's all in, man.
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And they're doing this thing, they're walking around, some girls ridicule them, they put on
the skirts and they're yelling about magic underwear.
And if you don't know what this is, the LDS folks, they wear white garments underneath their
clothes.
And from what I understand, they're supposed to always be worn even during sexy time.
I'll call it not so sexy time.
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Apparently, they're supposed to always wear these.
And I don't know the reality of that practice if that's really what happens.
But if you live in Utah, you'll see a lot of LDS people, the walk around, they always have
like white shirts underneath their shirt and stuff.
So I'm taking more seriously than others.
I guess old-timey LDS folks used to put on these garments and when they would take a bath,
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they would sort of like roll up the sleeve, wash the arm, roll the sleeve down.
Roll up the other sleeve, wash the arm, roll the other sleeve down.
Like that's how they would wash with the thing on.
Which is crazy.
But then back then, they only took a bath like once a month, right?
And allegedly, the magic underwear have symbols sewn into them, the compass and the square.
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There's an L on the right chest, a V on the left chest and two horizontal marks, one at
the navel and one over the right knee.
And of course, the compass and square comes from Freemasonry, because Joseph Smith, the
founder of Mormonism, was a Freemason and is the reflection of ads above so below.
It's an occult idea.
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The compasses the heavens, the squares the earth, all right?
This goes back through Platonic solids with Plato on the cube, which we're going to come
back to Saturn.
It's a heavy duty element of this movie.
So these two missionaries are walking around and they get to Mr. Retaus and they're going
to meet this guy who was interested in hearing the message.
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They pull up to the house on their little bicycles.
It's just the barn says, this is it.
Now, that's an LDS phrase.
That's a coded phrase.
Because Brigham Young, when he got into Salt Lake, he looked out on the vista and said,
this is it.
And they have a, I think it's called the Heritage Park in Salt Lake.
It's called this is it, Heritage Park.
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That's the whole thing, right?
And when barns, you'll notice, Sister Barnes pulls her phone out.
She has a list of names and contacts who they need to go talk to to try to convert.
And at the bottom there, at the house that currently are at is Mr. Reed.
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That's Hugh Grant, okay?
So they're at Mr. Retaus and you'll notice the address is 237 Walnut Street.
Now, the 237 is a reference to the shining, which could totally distract us and take us
down this Kubrickian rabbit hole of MK Ultramine Control, which is kind of an element of the
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film here from what Mr. Reed ends up doing, including the monarch butterfly, which we're
going to talk heavily about on this episode, which is seen in the shining and heretic.
They're both in Colorado, but we're not going to go down that rabbit hole right now.
And also how interesting is that we never, in the credits, not in the movie, we never get
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the name, the first name of Mr. Reed.
He has no first name, which reminds me of the powers of a magician.
They take on magical names, specifically in the LDS.
They do a similar practice.
They get a secret name in the temple and down with ceremony because they get sort of initiated
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into this thing.
So anyway, they're out front.
They're at this play on the shining house and it starts raining on them as they're at
the door.
And Sister Barnes says, "All right, let's get to the baptism."
Now, again, I mean, we're barely five minutes into this movie at this point.
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It's raining on them and they say, "Let's get to the baptism."
And they're about to be baptized.
The water is literally hitting them right now.
Baptized into the occult.
It's a bit of an inversion.
They're not there to baptize Mr. Reed.
Mr. Reed has them there to baptize them.
So the knock on the door, he answers it.
He invites them inside and they're like, "Hey, we can't come into the house unless there's
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another woman present for their safety, of course."
And he says, "Well, yeah, wife, he's home.
Come on in."
She's got to pine the oven for you.
So they're going and he says something really on to them when they walk in.
He says, "The walls and ceilings have metal in them.
I hope that's okay."
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This is a falsany and sort of bargain.
We're going to cover that later.
They get inside.
They look around the room in the front room there, the living room.
And you'll notice the owl figure in the living room, all right?
The owl, of course, symbolizes the Athena, the goddess.
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And part of the argument from Mr. Reed, which we're going to dig deep into when it gets
there, is going to be this idea of these ancient religions that Christianity supposedly copied,
going back to sun worship and even older is actually moon worship.
And the owl is linked to the goddess worship of Athena or Lilith or Sophia, the goddess
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of wisdom, the divine feminine, which is part of the gnostic idea that we're living in
a false reality with a false god.
And you'll also see the owl at Bohemian Grove or even in Twin Pink, so as you know.
And it symbolizes a bit of the guardian of the occult truth.
And Barnes looks around and she also sees a window that's in the shape of a hexagon with
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a butterfly in it, double, double, illuminate, confirmed trouble.
Because what we got here is with the flattened hexagon, it's a two dimensional rendering of
the three dimensional cube, which is symbolic for Saturn, all right?
And again, you can tie into the free Masonic, Conversant Square, the Platonic Solid.
The Saturn is symbolic of the material realm.
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It's a gnostic view in reference to Saturn or Chronos.
And it gets kind of complicated, it gets into the second law of entropy, decay of the material
realm.
But it represents the demirge evil force, subjecting us into this prison planet where through
the supposed deception of Abrahamic religions, we worshiped this false god, the false demirge.
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And the gnostic are like trying to wake people up to be like, hey, you're worshiping the wrong
god.
You got to worship the correct god.
Because Saturn is, it represents, in the brotherhood of Saturn, represents the final cosmic
test, the final gateway for the initiate to overcome.
Again with the Kubrickian stuff, 2001 of Space Odyssey depicts this very well, right?
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In the Arthur C. Clark novel form of the movie, Commander Bowman, Bowman, he gets out there
by the wormhole, Saturn guided by the monolith, the alien intelligence, which enlightens him
and sends him down the wormhole, where he becomes an ascended master.
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It's a, the Saturn represents the cosmic gateway with which one can overcome their fear
and become a master of their own reality.
And it can, with the twin peaks.
And in my season two, like three hour wrap up episode, we talked about this.
That was Dale Cooper.
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Stuck in the lodge, trying to cross the abyss.
It was this Saturnian cosmic gateway test.
But also on top of the Saturn reference, we have the butterfly, which symbolizes transformation.
All right.
In the MK Ultra Project Monarch, it's done through trauma-based mind control, but it also
just in regular symbolism symbolizes the awakening or the transformation of the character, the
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enlightenment of these ladies into Mr. Reads, occult worldview.
Now Mr. Reads, he has them sit on the couch, he goes out back, gets some drinkies, gets
a little candle, and they start a conversation about Heavenly Father's plan for him.
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And we find out through the conversation that Sister Paxton is from Ogden, Utah, Sister
Barnes is from Philly, but then she moved to Salt Lake.
And I think that's done on purpose.
She's not as steeped in the culture and beliefs.
There's this thing that in Utah, a lot of the LDS folks here sort of take on a different
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vibe from out of state LDS folks, from what I understand of the culture.
The ones in Utah are a little more religious, I guess, the best way of putting that.
The ones out of state are a little more of the world, so to speak, or it's a good presentation
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of such.
And that's very on the nose to these two characters, right?
Sister Barnes has a little more street smart.
Sister Paxton is like, "I wonder if a P would feel good."
You know?
Because that's really how they talk.
Now, Mr. Reed, he talked about the struggle of knowing what is the one true religion.
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But he does think it's important to be religious, but as we're going to find out the one true
religion and the religion that he thinks should be important is Nosticism, or the Saturnian
death cult.
And Mr. Reed, we find out knows way more about LDS history than he let on.
He spits out the entire story of Joseph Smith being visited by Maroni, which led him to
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the Golden plates and he wrote the book of Mormon, which he pulls out to show the girls.
He's like, "See?
I got it."
He's got all of them books on lock.
So Mr. Reed asks Sister Barnes if she's had any signs from her dead father since he passed.
Paxton says, "Well, you know, when I die, I'm going to come back as a butterfly to visit
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all the my loved ones.
And when I come back, I'm going to land right on their hand, right on their fingertips.
So they know it's me."
At this point, most of the lights in the house cut out and all of a sudden Mr. Reed says,
"It's time for pie and enlightenment."
And I'm thinking along the lines of pie or P as in 3.14 or the golden ratio, which is
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half of that, which is fee, again, sacred geometry, esoteric thought.
He says to them, "How do you feel about awkward questions?
But you know as a standup for something terrible coming soon."
And he asks them how they feel about polygamy.
I mean, he wants the smoke, right?
And that's the LDS controversy.
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And the thing shifts pretty hard.
He knows way more than he's letting on and they're starting to feel it.
And Mr. Reed thinks Joseph Smith used polygamy as a way to defend all of his extramarital
affairs.
And he says, "If revelation by God is filtered through man and man lies, how do we know it's
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true?"
Mr. Paxing says, "Well, it's more about how it makes you feel."
So Mr. Reed starts talking about fast food.
Do you want the light in the mode a little bit, right?
And it turns out it's just another lesson for him to teach the girls about the different
religions.
Take a listen to how this goes down.
What about Taco Bell?
We don't talk about Taco Bell.
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Why don't we talk about Taco Bell?
We'd have to talk about Taco Bell to talk about why we don't talk about Taco Bell.
All right, so Burger King is number one.
And I think it's trash.
Right.
Not jacking the box.
I vote Wendy's.
I could support.
Good.
Wendy's it is.
Do you know I've never had a Wendy?
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I came out wrong.
That's OK.
So when I started studying theology, the last thing I wanted to do was find the Wendy's
of religions.
I was just writing a research paper for a college class and I was content with doubling.
So some luck it's here.
BK Wapper over there would have fit the mood.
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As I studied the genres, McDbK in and out, IE, Mormonism, Scientology, Islam, Buddhism,
and I got closer to God through genre and rigorous study.
As I worked on my personal relationship with Heavenly Father and I think strengthened
in, do you know what I found?
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The more you know, the less you know.
And by the time I was 50, I was malnourished from the fast food of religion.
I'd been packing into my brain for the best part of a decade.
Every sect, cult, creed, denominational, claimed to be the one true doctrine and yet none seemed
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true when held under the microscope.
So I wondered what else was out there.
I promise you, the last thing I wanted to do was find the one true religion.
But unfortunately I did.
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Now things get weird real quick because they won't talk about Taco Bell.
Why?
More importantly, Mr. Reed is saying that fast food is like religion.
You have to kind of check all of them out, get a little taste of everything, which is what
you hear a lot from the story of Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, they travel around the
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world sampling and taking a variety of different flavors of different religions.
That's what Pythagoras did as well, right?
They called it synthesizing various religions.
And when you read into what's the book?
You guys know the book, The Golden Ball.
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He goes around and he's like, "Hey, these are all kind of similar."
Mr. Reed says, "The more you know, the less you know."
Meaning the more religion he consumed, the more confused he was, just like eating all fast
food all the time.
And he said, "Look, none of these seem very true until I found the one true religion,
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which we're going to come back to."
And the girls, they start tripping.
They're like, "Hey, where's Wifey at?"
Because that was the whole deal.
We need a woman in here.
And Mr. Reed is like, "Okay, I'm going head to the back and see how she's coming along with
that blueberry pie."
Well, Sister Barnes being the street smart girl.
She looks at the candle and spins it around and says it's blueberry pie candle.
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So now they're like, "Oh snap, there's no Wifey, there's no blueberry pie.
This guy's crazy."
And they look at each other and they're like, "We got to get out of here."
But they can't.
Because the front door is locked, I think, at this point.
So Mr. Reed, he's in the back of this dark house, on this dark alleyway.
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And he yells from there.
He's like, "Come on back, ladies."
And what's the time to go back to this dark-ass house?
And then Sister Barnes fakes.
She's like, "Oh, I got a phone call."
And they're like, "Look, we're just going to go out of this front door and run out."
But they find that the key to unlock their bikes is in Paxton's coat, which Mr. Reed already
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took with him.
And they're like, "That's fine.
We don't need the bikes.
We're just going to walk."
But the front door is locked, like I said.
So they can't get out of it.
No matter how they want to do this.
So this time they for real, for real, try to call somebody.
But the phone is no signal.
For sure, a timer switches off, and now the whole house is dark.
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So they do what one naturally does in a horror movie, and they decide they're going to walk
towards the back of this dark house, to where Mr. Reed is.
And there's a moment when they're walking down this dark hallway, and there's this dark
figure in the hallway, and they kind of cautiously walk up to it.
Turns out it's just a statue.
But wait, what's the statue of?
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I ran it to my expert analysis software, and meaning I took a screenshot and then looked
on the Google, which by the way, if you're on my Instagram, you can see the screenshots for
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So they walk back.
There's a statue, and that statue turns out to be Plato.
And the caption says that there's a song playing that's called just like a butterfly that's
caught in the ring.
Lots going on here, right?
We've got that butterfly, the metamorphosis thing.
We already saw the butterfly once already.
We heard Sister Pax then talking about how she wanted to reincarnate as a butterfly.
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My goodness.
What's going on with the butterfly?
And what's up with the statue?
Well, Plato's the big dog.
He's the one who started off all this thinking and philosophizing.
He's the first to suggest that maybe the material world is a prison planet.
It's like the Plato's cave, the allegory of Plato's cave, it's the same idea.
Maybe we're just looking at shadows on the wall.
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And the simulation, the Gnostic Prison Planet is merely a shadow.
From here you go into Neo-Platonism, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Theosophy, New Age, Quantum Thinking,
and AI overlords and the Digital Matrix.
And that's how this is going to go.
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So that statue of Plato to me is a major clue.
Major clue.
So they go through a door and they enter this big room that's set up like a church, it's
got pews and an altar, various religious pieces.
You see a statue of Shiva?
That's right, Shiva.
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And there's a connection to Surn that I said that we would talk about because at Surn, there
is a large statue of Shiva, the destroyer, out front, because Shiva is the destroyer that
dissolves illusion.
So while Surn is splitting atoms, making millions of mini-black holes that could consume us all
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one day, as they try to unlock the primomateria of alchemy to unlock the philosopher's stone,
which was the Higgs boson, God particle.
But they could also be time-traveling, who knows?
And what's interesting is that in the next scene, right after this, we're going to go through
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this church scene thing, the women end up going downstairs to be initiated, right?
Going underground is Illuminaic Affirm 101.
Like Surn, they do the atomic blasting underground, like Alice in Wonderland.
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So Surn just running an Alice test of some kind, it's called Alice.
Anyway, so they tell us to read, like, "Oh, we got Deb."
I really like what you're doing in here and the blueberry pie smells great, but we got
a roll.
And we're going to need our coats back, you know, and they get their coats back and they're
feeling for that bike lock key.
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But now it's a sister Paxton's coat, not sister bard's coat, so they look at church
like, "What?
Why is that?"
It's because sister Paxton is the chosen one and we're going to find out why.
So they asked Mr. Reed for help opening this front door and he says, "Oh, well, it won't
open."
And they're like, "Yeah, that's what we said.
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We need help opening."
And he's like, "No, no, no, no, you don't understand.
It won't open.
The dead bolts are on a timer.
So now if you want to leave, you got to leave through the rear of the house."
But these girls, they're not feeling it.
But he says, "I don't know what to tell you.
The front door is locked on the timer until morning, so if you want to go, you just got
to walk through, you know, walk through my little seller back door here."
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And of course, they're like not feeling that.
And Mr. Reed, he goes into big speech mode saying about how, you know, you got a lot of
kick it because he knows that they can't receive phone calls and they were panicking, trying
to call people.
He's like, "Full?"
I'll swore.
He's like, "Full?
I almost, I specifically asked you if you were okay with metal in the walls and ceilings
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when you arrived."
And you said, "Yes."
And this is a huge part of this.
He's like, "You were free to leave on your own accord at any time."
And this is what, this is the nonsense.
This is the free will nonsense.
It's very Luciferian.
It's very deceptive.
He technically asked them, but as you already know, it's manipulative and deceptive.
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If he would have said, "Hey, if you come in here and are you okay that your phone won't
work and the front door is going to be locked?"
They would have said, "No."
But he deceptively manipulated them in and didn't tell the truth.
Which is very Luciferian, right?
That's a very jerk thing to do.
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So Sister Barnes asks them, "I'm not playing these games.
How do we get out of here?
Which door do we need to go out?"
Because there's two doors.
Big speech mode activated again.
He says, "Well, do you believe my wife is in the next room?
Despite all of the evidence so far, are you indulging a lie?"
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Then he puts us in context to their religion.
Do you believe?
Because you were told to believe?
Even though you have all this evidence on the contrary.
Sister Barnes, she's like, "All right, dude.
She chooses a door because she's over him and she opens it.
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But what is inside on the other side of that door is a dark, scare case to a basement.
Which as you know in any horror movie, you don't want to go down those stairs."
So she closes the door.
She tries the other door.
Nope.
Same thing.
Another dark, stairway to a basement.
It's not the backyard or the garden as the English would say.
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Meanwhile, at the local LDS church, State President Elder Kennedy, that's Topra Grace.
He's in the church mopping around looking at the nasty old storm outside.
He looks at his little list of missionaries and he realizes, "Sister Barnes hasn't checked
in today with them."
He's like, "Hmm.
What are she is?"
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Back to Mr. Rethouse.
He hits them with a riddle on how they can choose between the two doors.
He pulls out a monopoly game, queues up the song by the Hollies, the air that I breathe
on vinyl.
And he compares the monopoly to the Bible.
He's like, "Look, this is picked up by over a billion people, but only finished by a few."
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Then he pulls out the landlord's game, which is the predecessor to monopoly, which you're
going to hear about.
I'm going to play the clip.
The original game, which was created by a feminist, to teach about the Eel's of Capitalism.
And then as capitalism would consume its own self, some guy stole it from her and caught
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up a monopoly and made it a pro-capitalism game.
Anyway, he talks about the teachings being iterations, implying that religion does the
same thing.
And he also compares it to the Hollies song, which got chopped and screwed over the years
similarly.
Take a listen.
Come back to that.
You are a you not monotheistic.
We believe in Heavenly Father, yes.
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Okay.
There are three major monotheistic religions.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
I call them the big three.
Judaism, i.e. the original edition, Christianity, i.e. the most popular edition, and Islam.
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The newer, second most popular edition.
May I see your book of Mormon, please?
I'll give it back.
Thank you.
Finally, after 800 years, this Mormonism, i.e. the Zaini Regional Spinoff edition.
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These are all its erissions of the same source material.
These texts share many of the same characters and histories or be it presented with different
meanings and perspectives.
So no, I will not accept that you stand there and tell me that you never heard the air that
I breathe by the Hollies when I know that you have heard Crump.
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I radio it.
Oh yes you remember.
Come on.
What the hell am I doing?
I know these are things you're thinking right now, but they're also lyrics you recognize.
Yes.
Yes.
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The Hollies file the plagiarism lawsuit against radiohead which they later settled by proving
that the melody and rhythm of the erudite breath of peer in creep.
How old are you?
19 or 20?
Something like that.
Maybe you know Lana Del Rey, who remarkably was sued by radiohead for plagiarizing creep
in her 2017 song Get Free.
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Itterations.
Over time.
Diluting the message.
Obscuring.
The original.
Chuteism is the OG monotheistic religion.
We should buy a wide margin and have the most number of practicing members and yet it makes
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up only 0.2% of the world's population.
Why is that?
Why is the original less popular than the Isiration?
Is it any less true than the others?
Are we talking about religion or board games or music?
Yes.
It has the furious members because it doesn't advertise.
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It doesn't have people like you.
Looking on doors.
Selling people a better life for better board game than a song.
You ever think about that?
Out missionaries are really just salespeople for an organisation.
The product you're selling is an idea.
You knock on my door and you sell.
Maybe I buy, maybe I don't buy.
Those are the rules of engagement when I invite you into my house.
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We are negotiating a transaction of ideologies.
What I'm trying to say to you tonight is that I have an idea which I would like to sell
to you.
So we ask about their beliefs in monotheism, right?
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Worshiping one singular God.
And how the big three, those Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity.
And it spins off into talk about Mormonism and such.
And how basically all these iterations come from the same source material like the Holly
song, which was part of radiohead song, creep and then Lana Del Rey's get free.
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They all dilute and obscure the original song.
He says, "Religious is the same thing."
And the thing that makes LDS Mormonism more popular than Judaism is the advertising because
they have active salesmen.
And then he says, "He has an idea he wants to sell them."
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Why does he say this?
I believe this is an initiation and indoctrination into him starting a new religion.
Him trying to popularize a flavor of saturnian nosticism.
And here's where it gets interesting because he goes through all these ideas of the religious
iterations being a conduit to a more ancient truth.
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And this is something you've heard about a million times from Zeitgeist to the late and great
Jordan Maxwell.
Even David I, one of my red pill daddies, talked about this.
But I'm going to debunk all that here in a second.
And you're going to hear this clip.
And what you're going to hear in case you're not watching the video version of this.
You're going to hear him talk about these religious iterations and then it's going to be mixed
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in with clips of Elder Kennedy trying to search for the missionary.
So don't get too confused when it sounds like the audio changes.
Here you go.
My argument is that the holy text which we revere are just mythological iterations of stories
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which ancient people have been telling each other for centuries.
And not true or real in any literal sense.
They are merely a conduit to a more ancient truth.
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The story of a saviour who was born to a virgin, who could perform miracles and was super
naturally resurrected, was a very popular story for at least a thousand years before Jesus
was born.
One of them has blonde hair, one of them is brunette, both dressed similar.
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No, never stopped by.
Mitzress.
Before miracles he was marked by the sign of the cross.
Oras.
Walked on water was crucified, had 12 disciples.
Krishna, he was a carpenter, born to a virgin, baptized in the river, rose from the dead and
ascended into heaven.
This little gallery, the picture, 12 gods who were born on December 25th, all of whom, predate
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the existence of Jesus.
I am sorry, but is it impossible to ignore the influence of one narrative upon another?
Before to ignore the fact that all these stories iterate into Star Wars, episode 1, the Fanta
Menace.
Can you imagine thousands of years from now people accepting Jar Jar as a significant religious
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figure?
So Mr. Reed, he goes through basically the same claims made on the Zeitgeist documentary,
documentary in quotes.
He's like, look, all these religions are the same.
Not born of a virgin, birth, performed miracles, resurrected.
You know, born on December 25th.
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He says all these gods, Krishna, Horus, Mitzress, they're all the same thing.
Same thing as Christ, same story.
And this is the thing that bugs me because...
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There you go.
That's kind of what it is.
We talk about the lost keys of free masonry and mis-fistophelian activities, dottas and
ferno, it goes on and on and on.
But we talk about how important the symbolism of the butterfly is and Saturn and how it fits
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it even connects into some of the symbolism that you find at the end of the movie when our
characters, they go through some initiation sequences underground, going through various
chambers and there's some hidden symbolism on the door that connects into the inokian language.
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