Richard Syrett on Coast to Coast AM, UFOs, Orthodoxy, Paranormal Experiences, & A.I. Control!

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Man am I excited today.
It's because I landed one of the big fish.
I landed Mr. Richard Searrett, the legendary host.
From Coast to Coast, I am a strange planet podcast.
And today I'm gonna get into his life's journey
about how he got into hosting paranormal radio shows
and we talk about conspiracy theories, aliens, UFOs,

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his journey through orthodoxy
and how one views the realm of the occult through that lens.
We get his take on extraterrestrials.
Are they interdimensional aliens?
Are they grays coming to save us from ourselves?
We talk about, he shares a really amazing story
about this unexplainable paranormal experience he had

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with his late rock historian friend, Argary Patterson.
Then we talk about AI and how the future of AI
looks for humanity and what this could mean.
Then we talk a little bit about Elon Musk,
a continuation of our disagreements we had
on Coast to Coast A.M. if you heard that episode.
And then he gives us his sage advice

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on how to avoid going black pill.
So take a listen to this interview.
He's an absolute legend and man, he's the best.
And while you're listening, check out the links
in the show notes.
You can go to strangeplanet.ca
'cause he's in Canada, right?
Not com, CA.
So go to strangeplanet.ca
and you can sign up for his free email newsletter
while you're listening and you can find the jump off

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to his YouTube and check out his podcast.
I've done several appearances on his strangeplanet podcast
in Coast to Coast A.M. and so on, which by the way,
if you wanna check out those specific episodes,
if you check out the link in the show notes,
I created a new web page where I'm cataloging
all the appearances I've made over the years.
I'm still working on compiling all of them.
I've got most of them on there,

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but I've got all of the Richard Searit interviews
that I've done with Coast to Coast A.M.
as well as strangeplanet,
including my recent appearance on unexplained
William Schattener on the history channel.
That's right, your boys on TV.
What's up now?
What's up now?
So check them all out.
Without further ado, here's our guest of honor, Richard Searit.
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Today we're joined by Radio Royalty.
He's got the Golden Voice you've heard on Coast to Coast A.M.
Five Seasons of the Television Show,
The Conspiracy Show and his podcast, Strange Planet.
In the Rocker Roll Twilight Zone,
he's got years of experience researching
and discussing topics covering the spectrum
of UFOs, aliens, the occult and the paranormal.

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He's one of the most respected voices in alternative media.
And today I get to finally interview him
and pick his brain.
Welcome to the show, Mr. Richard Searit.
- Hey Isaac, great to speak with you.
Thank you so much, appreciate it.
- Yeah, thanks for coming on here.
I've done several of your shows
and this is where we're switching hats here.
So you're much more... - You're more than

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interviewing than me.
- Oh, no, no, no.
I have to say, in all honesty,
you are one of my favorites
and you're one of my listeners' favorites.
That's why I've had you on so many times.
You just continually, I like to use
an old hockey metaphor being from Canada.
You always put the puck in the net.
You always deliver the goods when you come on the program.
So I appreciate you.

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- Geez, thank you.
I didn't expect that.
That made my day.
'Cause like I said, you're a legendary figure
in this realm of... - You know about that.
- Oh, I know about it.
You're being humble.
Yeah, this is quite an honor.
And one of the reasons I wanted to have you on here
is because I know how...

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There's several people that...
Like Greg Karlwood is a podcast
called The Hire Side Chat,
and I've done several times.
And he interviews people just constantly, right?
And I gotta think, 'cause my podcast is mostly
just me talking about my research.
And I think it's fascinating how guys like you

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have been interviewing guys like me for so many years.
And I gotta think that you're exposed
to way more information than I am
in the sense that I have my own biases
and my own sort of filters of the world
and my own belief systems.
And I think there's value in guys like you
who have been exposed to a wide variety

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of every opinion you could think of.
And I really want to sort of just get a rough idea
of how these things get internalized by you
and how all of this sort of formulates an opinion
in your mind.
And what I wanted to do was start out with your...

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You know, I know that this is...
We don't have all day, but I wanna know your life's journey.
I wanna know how on earth did you become
a person interested in these taboo and fringy subjects?
When did those seeds get planted?
Does this go back to childhood interest?
Maybe it takes on a journey of how you have gone down this path.

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- Well, I'm a child of the, I was born in the '60s
but I'm really a child of the '70s.
So youngest of five kids, I spent a lot of time
watching television. I grew up watching Leonard Nimoy's
in search of and oh, there was a program

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that Rod Serling did after the Twilight Zone.
It was called Art Gallery or Night Gallery,
my apologies, Night Gallery.
And the Night Stalker and I watched three runs
of the Twilight Zone and so forth.
So I guess that was always in the back of my mind.
I never set out to host a radio program

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dedicated to conspiracy theories
or the paranormal or UFOs.
I mean, it was always an interest.
Professionally, I mean, I got into talk radio.
It wasn't even my first choice.
I was intent on getting into television documentaries.
In fact, I didn't turn at a TV documentary production house.

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And then just something popped up as it often does.
I got a call from a classmate,
hey, they're hiring over here at this talk radio station.
And so I just kind of fell into it and fell in love
with the medium.
And I worked, I got to work with absolute luminaries
up here in Canada in terms of talk radio.
I mean, the very best CFRB AM1010 has been on the air since 1927.

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It's a 50,000 watt blowtorch station.
The Toronto is like the fifth or sixth largest radio market
in North America.
So I was very fortunate in kind of, you know,
starting my career at the top in the sense that
I've always worked in major market radio.
And after about six or seven years,

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I think I was given an opportunity to host.
That was the other thing they did there.
They hired internally.
They promoted internally and they promoted talent.
I started off as a call screener and an on-air
and an off-air producer.
And then I found myself giving a late night shift on a Sunday.

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And I had to figure out what am I going to do with this time.
And but I knew I didn't want to talk about what everyone else
talked about.
And we used to subscribe to a service called the wireless flash.
Actually came in the mail.
All of the producers received a copy.
And it helped you to do show prep.

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And you know, there was celebrity birthdays and the astrology.
But there were also some suggested interviews
for late night radio hosts.
You know, hey, you want to interview a Loch Ness Monster Hunter?
Here's his number, here's his biography and his email or whatever.
And so I just started introducing those kind of fringe elements

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into the program and it kind of took off.
And the only other thing like it doing that kind of radio
was Art Bell and Coast to Coast AM.
It was still Art Bell at that time.
He was getting close to retirement, I think.
And I was a huge Art Bell fan.

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I mean, how could you not?
Just a-- it didn't matter what Art Bell talked about.
He had that kind of voice and presentation skills
and ability to reach through the radio and speak to you
as if you were the only other person in the world.
And I've always said this, I could listen to Art Bell

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read from the telephone directory and I would be captivated.
And so I loved Art Bell.
And certainly I was inspired and influenced by Art Bell.
So those elements kind of took over the show.
And then 9/11 happened maybe a year or two later.
And that changed everything as it did for most people.
But as a broadcaster and as someone who was starting to sort

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of look beyond the headlines, it just
totally took over my show.
In fact, within a week of 9/11, while everyone else was still
sort of rally round the flag and let's invade Iraq
or Afghanistan or in weapons of mass destruction.
And it was planes flying into buildings.

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I started asking some uncomfortable questions.
And it wasn't a particularly popular thing
to do on the radio on a major market, mainstream media
station, but either management wasn't paying attention.
They didn't care.
Or I don't know, maybe they thought what I was doing
had some value, I think it did.

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So that really was what changed at all.
I mean, I went from talking about the Loch Ness Monster
in Bigfoot and all of a sudden now I'm thrown into this world
that everything we think we know about history and reality
and the way the world works and who's running the show.
And all of that was just turned upside down.

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I was also about that-- well, maybe a few years earlier,
I was introduced to a very interesting character
by the name of Nelson Thal, who remains a good friend
to this day, who was a student of the late Marshall McCleuen,
Canada's greatest mind, perhaps communications guru.
And in fact, he went on to become the official archivist

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for Marshall McCleuen and was going to be a PhD student
under Marshall McCleuen when the whole program
at the University of Toronto was shut down,
which was very controversial.
It turns out I later learned that Marshall McCleuen was also
studying sort of conspiracies and secret societies.

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In fact, I think he's quoted as saying
that the arts are controlled by the secret societies.
And I later learned through my friendship with Nelson Thal,
that McCleuen-- I just lost my train.
Where was it going with that?

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Secret societies-- oh, yes.
That Marshall McCleuen was in contact
with a lot of former intelligence people
from around the world, whistleblowers, and things like that.
So this was entirely new to me.
Anyway, Nelson Thal also introduced me to a book--

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I remember having dinner with him one night,
and he had a shopping bag with him, and he grabbed this big hefty book.
And he put it on the table, the restaurant.
And it was Tragedy in Hope by Dr. Carol Quigley,
who was a professor at Georgetown University,
taught Bill Clinton and others.
And he was sort of blowing the whistle on the Rockefellers

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and the secret societies, the Roundtable,
or the Rhodes, and so forth, because he had access
to the Rockefeller libraries.
Actually, he wasn't so much a whistleblower.
I think he actually was agreeing with what they were doing,
but for whatever reason he felt compelled to let the world know.
So that was kind of my introduction.
That's a very long answer.

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But that's how I got into it.
And I've never looked back.
I mean, once you drink from that well,
you're never really content to sort of go back and covering
city hall meetings and provincial budgets.
It just really doesn't matter anymore after you sort of

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have pierced the veil, so to speak.
- That's fascinating.
In fact, I have been taking a course with Professor
Diana Pasalca, and Marshall McClellan's name
came up several times.
I casually know who he is, but I don't know much about him
besides the ideas he presented about technology being

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technology having the capacity to either make our lives
more enriched by freeing up the time for humanity
to sort of pursue creative endeavors and things
versus what I think in my negative outlook,
what I think the technocrats are really gonna do with it.
And that's in slave us or something.
But that's interesting.

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Sometimes I get into these synchronicity things
because I have one obscure reference
that just keeps popping up on my radar,
so I guess I gotta really dig into Marshall McClellan
a little bit, sounds like, 'cause you brought him up too.
- Yeah, I mean, most people are familiar with his book,
The Medium is the Message,

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but he also had, as you say, he had a lot of things
to say about technology, and I'm not an expert
on Marshall McClellan by any means.
It comes to me second hand from a pretty good source,
his official archivist and a student,
but he talked about how technology erases identity
and violence is a quest for identity,

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and so technology, I guess, inadvertently leads to violence
and technological, major technological advancements
are always followed by war.
- Wow.
- And he talked, back in the 1960s,
he basically predicted the internet.

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Famous for talking about the global village
and so forth, he talked about how we are,
since the launch of Sputnik, the Russian satellite,
we have been sort of pulled out of our bodies, really.

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We are living at the speed of like,
we're electronic beings,
living at the speed of light,
and our, because of technology and satellite technology
and global communications, we've sort of been,
I don't know, transported out of our bodies,

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you know, we're all sort of bouncing around
in the ether out there, you know?
- Right, right.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
- Yeah.
- And it's like we're projecting our consciousness
into this digital, you know, internet world,
and I feel a bit of that too, as a content creator podcaster,
it's almost a, and then on top of that,
I use a pseudonym of Isaac Wiseau,

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which is my real name, and you get a sort of schizophrenia
about you with this, like I've got my real personal life,
and then I've got this sort of online life,
and they're two different versions,
'cause I'm not that interesting or engaging
in my personal life, people are probably,
you know, you know, people in my personal life,
when they find out I podcast, they don't really talk to me

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about it, which I don't know if I should be comfortable
with that or not, but I don't bring it up,
and they don't talk about it, and they probably think,
who this guy, he's so laid back and quiet,
I can't imagine he talks to, you know, about podcast stuff,
but yeah, I'm totally with that, with the technology,
sort of changing who we are, and that's,

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and that's, I wanna, later on, we'll talk about AI,
because I do think that that's a huge component
of this revolution that we're sort of witnessing,
I don't know, I'll pick your brain about that here in a minute,
but I wanna ask you about the,
this is kind of a more personal question maybe,

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so feel free to tell me to shut out,
but I wanna know how your spirituality sort of filters,
because like for me, I'll start with my sort of perspective,
and for me, as a, I call myself a Lukewarm Christian,
'cause I'm not a good one, but I'm an Orthodox Christian,
and I believe I just, you know, I was really hardcore

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for when I first found Orthodoxy in 2003,
I was hardcore for a solid, probably 15 years,
of, you know, Dinn Miss Church, read every book,
I was really into it, and it kind of petered out,
and it's not that I, and jaded by it,
or against it or anything, I just kind of fell out of practice,
and now it's like, okay, it's a core belief of mine,

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and that's kind of where it is,
and I try to live my life as a Christian the best I can,
but when I study all of these paranormal, occult conspiracy topics,
it really starts jumbling up the works in my brain
about what's really going on, and such,
so I'm curious how your experience of spirituality,
playing into all of these sort of dark and taboo subjects,

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how do you sort of navigate that?
- Well, I'm also an Orthodox Christian,
and I married into the faith.
- Oh, it's there with me.
- I was raised in the United Church,
which used to be called Methodist,
I mean, I had in many ways an idyllic childhood,
and I wanted to play hockey,

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so I played in the church hockey league,
but the deal was, if I wanted to play hockey for the church,
I had to sing in the choir,
or I had to go to Sunday school,
and I did both, it was wonderful sort of fellowship,
but looking back, it was, while it was high in fellowship,
not a lot of worship going on.
It was great sense of community,

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but then I married my lovely mighty Aphrodite,
and I not only fell in love with her,
but I fell in love with her faith,
and I became, I was cremated,
I'd already been baptized,
so I was cremated into the Orthodox faith,
because I wanted to share sacraments with, you know,
we're planning on having children,
and we had two boys.

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And, well, to cut to the chase,
I'm constantly conflicted
by the topics that I present on my podcast,
and I've presented on various talk radio programs
on different stations.

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This, I mean, it's been different incarnations
of the same sort of, you know, the conspiracy show,
conspiracy on limited-strange planet,
and then coast to coast, and so forth.
But, yeah, it's a challenge for me.
I am constantly conflicted,
but I do cling to, I cleave to the faith.
You know, I'm not someone who can quote,

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scripture, chapter and verse.
I have, I have kind of a child like,
faith, I guess, really, just in somebody called that naive,
or somebody called that, you know, unsophisticated,
I just, I trust in the Lord,
and, you know, I just, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord

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and Savior, and nothing else really matters.
I mean, as long as I think you believe in the birth
and the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
the rest is really details.
But for me, I love the mysticism of the Orthodox Church.
But it's, a lot of the things I talk about,

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and you talk about, you know, whether it's the cult
and the paranormal, and I just got off
recording a podcast earlier today about Carlos Castaneda,
and, you know, sort of navigating the liminal realms
and alternative realities.
And earlier this week, I was talking to people about DMT entities.

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I mean, these, and these are all, and I, I mean,
I try to provide a very respectful and safe platform
for people to come on.
It's not an argumentative type of program.
So, you know, reincarnation, that's something else.
I don't subscribe to reincarnation.
Some people believe that it was in the Bible

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and it was taken out of the Bible.
I don't believe there's any evidence for that,
but still, I mean, people come on and they talk about that,
but I'm, I'm conflicted, Isaac, and I,
and the deeper I get into the faith, the more I'm conflicted,
I don't know, maybe, maybe I'm in the wrong business.
(laughing)
- Yeah, there's something to be said there,

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and I think that it's a double edged sword for me
because I'll research a lot of these topics.
And I'll, honestly, I'll see some validity
in some of the occult arguments, and I'll have to sort of
just have the faith and research, okay,
what's the ortho, like, for noctisism, for example,

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they think we live in this prison planet.
And at first, I'm like, oh, that's crazy,
but then the more I dig into it, I'm like,
I don't know, maybe that's not so crazy,
because the whole idea is that, I think it was an apetus
for somebody who was sort of hired by the early church
and 300 AD to do a disinformation campaign against the nostics

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to make sure that that flavor of interpretation
of who Jesus Christ was didn't become the mainstream Christianity.
And I think, well, that is kind of weird,
but then I have to sort of go through the people
that have spent way more time researching this than me,
and that's like the church fathers,
and the orthodox sort of dogmas and literatures,
and say, okay, well, they've already crossed this bridge

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hundreds of years ago, so I guess I just got to have the faith
that their version is correct, but if you hard pressed me
on it, I'd say, man, it really just comes down to belief,
and I don't know the answers.
So it's just, it's really hard because the more you research
these things, it's the more those seeds get planted,

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and you start questioning, like, well, maybe it is a big
control system in a way.
So yeah, that's interesting that you brought that up.
The other side of the question, I'd like to know what you feel
about extraterrestrials, aliens, UFOs, UAP, whatever that is,

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because that was one of the things that got me into this realm,
growing up in the 80s and 90s, was I was fascinated
by the topic of aliens, and I didn't realize there was a
spiritual component to that.
I just thought it was a, they existed, they don't kind of thing,

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and I'd like to know what you think.
You've interviewed so many guests that are researching this thing
intensely, and now we're living through this strange moment
of possible disclosure that's coming any day now.
Maybe who knows?
I know that's a big open end of question, but what's your sort

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of view on extraterrestrial life?
Well, first of all, I have to say, it never ceases to me to
amaze me the hunger of the insatiable appetite for this
subject for listeners, whether it's the podcast or coast
to coast, that people cannot seem to get enough of it, despite

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the fact, they've been talking about disclosure for, I don't
know, 20 years or more.
I enjoy talking about it.
I mean, there are so many different facets, whether we're
talking about the abductions or we're talking about crop
circles or we're talking about UFO propulsion systems or

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the whole disclosure or exopolitics how the ET reality is
impacting geopolitics and so forth, underground bases and
reptilians.
It just goes on.
It's never ending.
But again, I hope this isn't a turn off for people, but I,

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you know, I, for me personally, and from time to time, I will
sort of divulge my, my biases.
And I put everything personally on a personal level.
I put everything through my faith filter.
And so it's no different with the UFO ET issue.
As far as I know, there's nothing in the Bible that

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denies 100% denies the existence of other, you know, races or
entities on other planets.
But it doesn't, the only way it makes sense to me,
based on my, my faith is that they're not extraterrestrial,

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they're interdimensional.
And that is in the Bible.
And that's the spiritual aspect of this.
If we look at these incursions and we look at Genesis 6 and, you know,
fallen angels and, and the Nephilim and so forth, they make sense
then from a biblical standpoint.
A lot of fans of the UFO genre or whatever you want.

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I call it or not happy with that because it has sort of become a
religion on its own, all on its own.
Those people that see extraterrestrials as, you know, the, you know,
nights, white nights coming to save us from ourselves and, and taking
people on board their craft and showing them videos or movies of, you

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know, how we're destroying our planet.
And we need to raise our consciousness and join the, you know,
intergalactic federation or whatever that they call it.
And I'm not trying to be flipping here.
I mean, this, these are their sincere beliefs.
That's why, but, um, that doesn't make sense to me, but I'm not going

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to stop, you know, allowing those people to come on the program and, and, and
talk about it.
Um, I have an audience that, um,
that is hungry for that kind of information.
That's, you know, that's what they want to hear.
So I give them what they want to hear.
And from time to time, yes, when, when appropriate, I think I'll, I'll offer up my,

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my perspective, which again, is, is a biblical one that these are
interdimensional.
And there is a, there is a sizable camp that believes that as well that
we're talking about interdimensional.
Some, if we're talking about the angelic realm, it makes sense, you know, there are demons.
There are fallen angels.
And then there are the, the good angels, if you will, the messengers of God.

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Um, and they've been interacting with, with humanity, uh, since forever.
So it makes sense from that point of view, if that answers your question.
Yeah, that's great.
There was actually a, one of the first times I listened to Strange Planet, I think
he had two episodes. And I can't, for the life of me, remember the name, there was these two guys.

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I want to say there were brothers and they were, they were more in the Christian camp.
And they, they talked a lot about the occult and aliens.
And I think they're the ones that got me onto Tom Horns research.
But, and they talked about the watchers and the Nephilim and stuff.
I can't remember their names to save the life of me, but, uh, it does ring a bell.

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Let me just, uh, Farley brothers.
Does that sound familiar?
The Farley brothers or something?
No, um, there was, um, I was thinking Justin fall.
That's it.
Fall.
Yes.
It might be F. A. U. L. and, yeah, his brother, um, they made documentary films.
Yes, that's them.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, I've, because I casually listened to the episode forever ago.

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And, and I, I never was able to figure, I'm going to write that down.
The fall brothers, they, they, because I even bought, uh, one or two of their documentaries,
they were really good.
Um, but yeah,
it's, it's, it's, uh, they, they were great guests.
They had fascinating information.
Yeah, they talked about, um, uh, Jack Parsons from the, uh, jet propulsion laboratory

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and his association with Alistair Crowley and using the same kind of ritual with
Babylon rising type ritual out in the desert in 47, supposedly opened up this portal.
Um, and, uh, that's coincidence, coincidentally, perhaps when the whole 47 UFO
flap started, then he dies in a, uh, an explosion, uh, one of his labs, uh, and without,

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you know, closing the, closing the portal and the speculation, this is what led,
because it wasn't just a UFO flap in 47.
I mean, people were seeing and having all kinds of very bizarre encounters and experiences
in 47.
It wasn't just, you know, Roswell and the Aztec UFO, um, incident.
I mean, there was a whole host of paranormal things that were going on.

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We always focus on Roswell, but, uh, you know, it's a great question.
Was that all tied to Jack Parsons?
And I think Eloran Hubbard was involved as well.
Yeah, it's, it's a fascinating, uh, chapter for sure.
I really feel like that is the core thing that this goes back to.
And I had interviewed Dr. Jacques Vallet a few weeks ago.

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And, you know, he's, he's, he's the, there's two guys that I think understand how the
occult works with technology and aliens.
And that's, that's Dr. Jacques Vallet and Peter Leventa.
And, you know, because Dr. Vallet basically was part of the team that created
Arpanette, which created the internet.
Uh, he's been researching UFOs forever.

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And when I talked to him in my assessment of what he was telling me, um,
I, me reading between the lines of what he's saying.
I think what he was saying, he refers a lot to, to occult ideas in his new book for
written science six.
And he talks about alchemy and all kinds of stuff.

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And I, and I, I think what he was trying to say is that if we want to understand
the phenomenon and UFOs and what this really is, we have to go and look back
at previous practices that may have been shunned or dismissed.
And I, I believe that he's talking about occult stuff like alchemy, even ritual magic

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and so on.
And I, I think that this goes back to like the whole idea of the Collins elite,
which I believe is where the fall brothers were talking about all of these things.
And there's not a lot of people that are talking about it.
Because when I was researching for my UFO books is, I think is when I stumbled on it.
Because I was like, okay, yeah, these guys are on to it.
Like not, not too many people talk about all these connections.
And I think that, um, when it comes down to it, it's, I think that there's a cult

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practice is being done to garner knowledge from these entities.
And from there, I don't know how that fits into the world of the nuts and bolts.
People that believe in UFO crashes, but Dr.
Dr. Jack Valle and Paul Harris wrote a whole book about the 1945 Trinity crash that
happened, you know, right after the atomic bomb got detonated, which opened up the

(32:21):
riff and then, you know, then you have Parsons doing all the rituals of the
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And then just I just think that there's something there.
And I think that it's tied into a cult practices and, um, I don't know.
I'm just throwing that out there.
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And it seems to me.
It's been a couple years since I interviewed Jacques Vallet, but he seems to be based on sort of titles of books and
conversations snippets that I've heard coming around to the idea.
I mean, I think the word deception is used in one of his book titles, talking about the alien agenda and

(35:38):
the and deception being involved in along with another alien abduction researcher, David Jacob.
The abduction also increasingly talking about the deception.
I mean, what is the alien agenda?
Now, David Jacobs is, I don't believe his, he holds religious views, but he does believe that the

(36:04):
the agenda involves a human alien hybrid program.
Essentially, the end goal is to raise, is to colonize Earth to take over the planet through this program.
And Nick Redfern is someone else, popular UFO researcher, author, who's sort of come to this conclusion as well.

(36:31):
Now, I don't know if Vallet is entirely come over to that camp, but again, he seems to be at least to my mind,
I might be wrong, but moving in that direction, sort of as a response to this, I mentioned, you know,
you're phology becoming this religion where, you know, the railions and people who really buy into this idea that,

(36:56):
you know, ETs are here to save humanity.
They're going to solve all of our problems.
They're going to provide us with free energy and if people that are abducted by aliens, which to me just sounds, you know,
just absolute barbarism, poking and prodding and abducting children, the response from the UFO religious crowd,

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if I can use that term, is that this is a contract we've made in a prior life.
So this is where sort of the convergence of reincarnation, new age, ism, me, to phology.
A lot of people actually believe that there is nothing wrong with abducting children, aliens abducting children.
This is a contract, a sole contract that we've made in a previous life.

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I mean, I just can't countenance that idea, but that's, you know, that's out there.
Well, that's interesting. Yeah, that's, and there's an element of this that I think, because I tie a lot of my research into pop culture,
because, you know, I grew up watching lots of television and movies and I still enjoy all those things to this day.

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A lot of people get turned off by that. A lot of people get upset and they say, well, if you're finding all this symbolism and, you know,
demonic activity on these movies, why are you still watching them? I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. I still enjoy them.
It's just is what it is. And I, and I can't help but think that the pop culture stuff sort of directs us in our line of thinking.

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And I don't know where our fantasies and imagination starts and where the reflection of reality happens.
For instance, you know, Jack Parsons and Werner von Braun, they were really into these science fiction tales about, you know, us going to Mars and things like this.
And that inspired them and they really built rockets. And, you know, I personally don't think that we put a man on the moon, but there's, you know, they, they were able to sort of launch these massive rockets and there's space station out and, you know, synchronous orbit.

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So, I mean, there's elements of that that really manifested as reality. What, what do you, you know, you, you had a podcast called Rock and Roll Twilight Zone talking about pop music or rock music, I should say.
And so you, you've got some interest in, and I know we talked previously about your interested in Frankenstein, right? Like you, you enjoy Frankenstein. I do too. I'm a big universal monster's fan.

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Which, which, you know, as a child, I grew up, I was like terrified of Frankenstein. I used to have this recurring nightmare about Frankenstein for whatever reason. And I would, I would see, there's a term for it.
But I would see like my, I could see my dad's chair and he would have like, he would put his like work uniform on it. And in the middle of the night, I would look over there and I could see it.

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I was always thought Frankenstein looking at me, right?
But growing up as a researcher, now I say, oh, I get the whole story about Alchemy and man becoming God and stuff, you know.
So, so maybe, maybe take us down the path of pop culture and your interest. What, what kind of pop culture were you into and how does this play into the research for today?

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Let's see. I was from my earliest memory, I was into, you know, the, what do they call them? The four Ds, Dylan, the doors, the dead.
That's three. What am I missing? Anyway, Dylan, the doors, the dead. I was out of sync really with my generation.

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Because I sort of came of age in the early 80s and everyone was into, you know, Durand Durand and I don't know, spend out by lay and all of that stuff. And I was, I was into classic rock and music from the 60s and the psychedelic era.
I guess because my older brother and sisters, you know, they had quite an album collection. And so I just, that was what I was fed and that's what I gravitated towards.

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And then the rock and roll twilight zone. That was, that came about because through, so the conspiracy show where I forget what the, what the name of the show was back in the CFRB days, I was doing a late night show talking about all of these things, you know, paranormal conspiracies.
Gary Patterson, who was a rock and roll historian and was, he kind of wrote the definitive book on the whole Paul is dead legend.

(41:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was called, what was it called? Paul was the walrus or something like that.
Anyway, so Gary, our Gary, I called him Gary, he became kind of a semi regular on the show and he just, he wrote like an entire anthologies about all of these rock myths and legends and curses, you know,

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Leonard Skinnerd and all, you know, dying in this horrific plane crash in the late 70s and, and all of, you know, the 27 club, all of these musical icons that died of 27, you know, Brian Jones and Jim Morrison and more did Jim Morrison fake this fake his death and did Brian Jones really drown or was he murdered and

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on and on it when there was just it was such a rich vein that we decided to do we're going to collaborate and do a terrestrial radio program.
It was going to be called the spirit of rock and we're spirit kind of a plan words spirit, the paranormal and so forth.
And we talked about that project almost every day for about two years and we were pretty close to landing our first station we are, it was to build kind of a network we're going to syndicate this show called spirit of rock we produced a pilot.

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The first one was about Jimmy Hendrix and whether he was murdered by his his manager who was former MI6 and we had Jimmy and Jimmy Hendrix former road manager the late tapy right on the program and he he claimed that the manager was a mic Jeffrey I think his name was mic Jeffrey Hendrix manager had confided in tapy right that he had murdered Jimmy Hendrix for the insurance.

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And so we produced the pilot we were a couple days away from meeting with the management at a radio station in Knoxville Tennessee because that's where Gary live near Knoxville that was going to be our first station and then I learned on coast to coast AM.

(44:05):
The Gary had died. But the previous that was a Saturday night the previous and actually it was announced on coast to coast.
I I slept through it I usually I listened to coast to coast my wife the mighty after died and I usually stay up and listen to coast for some reason that night I slept through it I missed it.

(44:30):
So I woke up the next day and I got a Facebook mentioned I think it was our Facebook message from Dave Schrader who was one of the guest hosts at that time telling me said hey I know that you and Gary were close I just wanted to let you know in case you missed the show last night Gary passed away yesterday.
And I didn't believe it because I had I had or I thought I had a fairly lengthy telephone conversation with Gary that night.

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It was a Friday night he called me I remember seeing you know his name on my you know on the phone rang I don't answer the phone unless they're in my contact list and his name came up our Gary Patterson.
And that had that all familiar Tennessee draw and he was such an affable lovable person always upbeat and positive and always saying supportive things about me and and we were talking about our project and he mentioned to me that the meeting that we had scheduled for the management at this radio station in Knoxville about our radio program had to be postponed because

(45:41):
it was the memorial day weekend and so Monday was going to be a holiday and I completely forgot about that.
And he said some of a couple of other things that were kind of at the time I thought well that's unusual but that's just our Gary he said to me at one point during the conversation you know Richard you're a really cool dad.
Okay well I'm not sure where that's coming from but you know thank you and then he said something he said you know Richard you and I were really big deal.

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And I thought well that's just Gary's way of you know trying to boost our morale as we're trying to launch this project and so forth.
And then I asked him I said it's memorial day weekend coming up I said when I think of memorial day in the United States I think of course the the parades but I also think of family barbecues I said Gary you can have a barbecue this weekend.
And for the first time in the year all the years I had known Gary he got kind of sharp with me and he said there will be no barbecue.

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And I thought oh boy did I just step in a landmine or something is there something going on with his family.
He just said just like that there will be no barbecue and I just kind of let it go and this is going back to 2017 I the details are getting a little foggy but I remember wandering through the house with the with the myself
of my ear and I would just suddenly find myself in a different room and not realize it was like I was in walking in a dream or something I don't know.

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And at one point I walked through the kitchen and my wife was in the kitchen with my brother in law he was sitting at the kitchen table they saw me with the phone to my ear.
Wandering around in the house and then anyway the phone call ended I don't even remember exactly how it ended I know it was kind of on a sore point and then the next day I learned that Gary had passed away so I ran upstairs the mighty after the he was just getting a bed getting a dress and I said.

(47:36):
Gary passed away Gary died I just learned on Facebook and she said to me weren't you talking to him last night I didn't I didn't I didn't prompt her for that answer she just volunteered it she said I saw you on the phone and I figured it must have been Gary because we were always talking.

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And so I went down to the funeral I'm making this a very long story I apologize but I went down to the funeral I flew down in ox fill and then from there I went to.
His little town.
And there's Gary in his open casket with his I think he had a fender guitar he was a wonderful musician in front of the casket there was his older brother Mike I went up and introduced Mike and he said oh Gary spoke with you often thank you for coming all this way.

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And I didn't want to tell him about the phone call.
But I had to know I said what time did did Gary pass and he said always about five o'clock well that night when I talked to him it was well past dark I remember.
And this was May late May so it doesn't get dark up here in Toronto until probably past eight o'clock.

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Anyway one thing I neglected to mention was I looked on my phone.
You know at the morning after he passed away and you know you can go to reasons on your phone and find out who did you call out going calls nobody called me on Friday there are no in going or outgoing calls.

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There was a call from Wednesday from our Gary Patterson I remember talking to him on a Wednesday there was nothing on the Friday when he died what I talked to somebody well.
That's fascinating I think that those kinds of paranormal stories because I've got a couple to that are just unexplainable and I think it's like sometimes that veil gets thin and.

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You know there's no there's no way to like prove it when it happens sometimes so that's that's interesting that would happen so did you so what was the next move after that did did you just proceed with the project on your own.
I took me a few weeks to think about it what would Gary want me to do yeah and I decided.

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Well one of the last interviews I think it was the very last interview that Gary did talking about his books and and you know rock mysteries and so forth forth was with Chris Jericho.
Chris Jericho the famous w well used to be called the w w world wrestling federation.

(50:22):
And then they changed their name anyway he famous wrestler but he became he was also a musician he became a a podcaster and so Chris Jericho had interviewed our Gary Patterson.
The last time just a few weeks before he died and it was Chris Jericho who was on coast to coast that night to announce with Dave Schrader that Gary had passed away again I missed the I missed the show so I reached out to Chris Jericho and I said I was a good friend and partner with our Gary Patterson and we had this project.

(50:51):
Together and I'm thinking about now doing a podcast and Chris had a podcast network and he said well I'm going to be in Toronto in a couple of weeks or a couple months or whatever it was why don't we meet so I met him down at the the Royal York hotel and told him both the idea and he loved it and so I produced about 40 episodes of the rock I renamed it the rock and roll twilight zone partnered with the was the Jericho network and I was going to be a little bit more.

(51:20):
And it became kind of a documentary style podcast it was a hell of a lot of work a lot of work I'm very proud of it I think Gary would like it to I think he would have loved it actually but that's how that came to be well it's awesome yeah yeah I'm sure he's grateful for you know following through on that the the I'm watching a show on Netflix called I think it's called pantheon it's like an anime show and it's interesting because that segway is.

(51:49):
Because that segway is in my sort of last question I've got for you well second to last question then I'll let you go the because in the storyline it's about AI and this this guy that's able to successfully upload his mind to a sort of digital matrix thing and he's able to communicate electronically with his wife and he calls his wife and that's that's just made me think of that which takes me to my next question for you and you said something when when you you have me on coast to coast recently the

(52:18):
you said something that kind of blew my mind and and I've been thinking about it ever since because we were talking about AI and you said something to the effect of how well we didn't really have a choice with AI is just kind of rolling out and I thought that's interesting I just I I guess I sort of
drank that cool aid of me just being an insignificant person and just like oh this is just what they do and you're absolutely right it's it's this thing that we're told by the the greatest minds and the techie leads that on the one hand

(52:53):
they're like oh this is going to kill us and it's going to be the end of humanity but then the next breath we're rolling it out with no limitations and I and I just sit back and I say oh that's kind of scary what do you think
what do you think the future holds for us and and how's AI component of this is this kind of one of those inflection moments that they're telling us is going to happen what do you perceive

(53:17):
yeah just to follow up on our conversation on coast for those who missed it yet we never had we were never let in on the conversation you want driverless cars I mean think about the job displacement and we talk about the robot apocalypse ha ha ha
on the singularity and so forth but we never there was never any discussion as far as I know in the House of Commons and here in Canada or on Capitol Hill in Washington do we want driverless cars or we do we do want robots serving you hamburgers I mean think about the implications

(53:48):
something like what is it one in five jobs in the United States anyway probably similar up here in Canada are tied to to driving a vehicle whether we're talking about
taxis or ubers or limo drivers or truck drivers or school bus drivers or etc etc think of the job displacement and it's not like a recession or even a depression where eventually you know those jobs come back

(54:12):
we're talking about millions and millions and millions of jobs and they're not coming back so I mean I think AI holds a lot of promise it's you know it's the
the double-edged sword I think AI could could solve or cure eventually most diseases it could solve resource scarcity but then I look at the unchecked development risks you know creating a world where humans essentially are obsolete and we have to ask are we playing

(54:47):
God well not we're not playing God somebody's playing God I'm thinking of Genesis and the tower of battle so I don't understand AI I'm trying to play catch up here because you know I I understand a little bit about chat GPT if I or if I want

(55:13):
to do a quick a search maybe I'll use Grog and will utilize AI when we're producing my son helps produce the thumbnails from my YouTube videos and he uses AI and they're terrific I mean it's amazing I just I've seen some amazing videos now and it's they're getting more and more realistic someone did a parity of we are the world from

(55:41):
1985 you know with Bob Dylan and Michael Jackson but now that they're using all of the world leaders Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu and and Georgia Maloney and I mean and Vladimir Putin it's I don't know if you've seen it but it's I am absolutely
enthralled by it but also and then I step back and I think oh my God you know in it's like John Madden's NFL that video game every year it got more and more realistic you know in the beginning it was very pixily

(56:14):
and then it got a little bit better more fluid and so forth and now I can't tell the difference between a video game and an actual game I have to do you know look really close so this is where we're at with
with with AI right now I I shudder to think where we're going to be in nevermind five years sick how about six months I agree I the videos as the videos is the thing that really makes me wonder because I've seen

(56:48):
like I said within six months I've seen the the AI generated photos and videos improve so much that now I'm a little bit terrified and I'm worried that this thing is going to sort of
disrupt us too much too fast and yeah I'm not sure what to think of it but but quick question you mentioned Grock did Elon Musk let you back on the Twitter yet or what an X

(57:14):
no which is kind of a head scratcher because I like many people I was he absolutely I was in such a celebratory mood when when he took over Twitter and here I am now it seems like I'm in permanent Twitter jail
even though there's supposed to be the new champions of free speech I still have no idea what I what it was I did except that I did post some some videos very critical of globalist Mark carney our new prime minister up here in Canada so I don't know we have you know we have an X

(57:49):
office up here in Canada whether someone from the liberal government picked up the phone who knows who knows how that happened but no I'm I'm in permanent read only mode on X
Oh I see she's okay and and I tell people I they were people asked me how the coast of coast thing went I said you know we have this fun little exchange

(58:13):
because it turned out Mr. Sirot is an Elon Musk fan and I was critical of you I thought and I thought that was fair because I I mentioned how Elon Musk question something about you know how empathy is holding us
back or something as humans and and you you corrected me which was a fair correction I I think I did I saw when I first found that thing that within the context it was accurate but then you reread the context and we now thought you

(58:41):
know I think I think you've got a fair point like I think I do so and this is my biases and my sort of like tunnel vision of like paranoia about the techie leads and the world's richest man kind of stuff and I
think it's interesting and and you but you're an Elon Musk fan is that true like what do you think that he's he's got good things in mind for us or

(59:05):
again the word conflict has to come up I am conflicted I mean you've opened my eyes as well when we were talking we were talking about the dark enlightenment on on coast and also on my strange planet podcast
which I encourage everyone to listen either if you're a coast insider go back and listen to the episode with Isaac or on on strange planet you really open my eyes I mean I I appreciate Elon Musk's I mean he's so audacious and

(59:34):
and although now I'm learning things about you know whether is he actually the guy that's doing this or did he just kind of take the credit for it you know he's been called a fake and a fraud everyone is a fake and a fraud apparently these days I don't know what the truth is I I do have an
admire an admiration for for him I certainly liked at least on the surface what he was attempting to do with the Department of government efficiency some other people I think maybe even you pointed this out with was this all an attempt to access data to get back in some way

(01:00:11):
against his his adversary over it open a I sam ultman or scam ultman as he calls him I mean was that really the motivation here that it was nothing to do with you know making government more efficient and reducing the budget or reducing the debt
it was about getting back at sam ultman from from the get go so I don't know the answer to that is I am also conflicted by neural link I mean this is something that

(01:00:42):
the say keeps me up at night is a cliche but I do it does bother me you know building this brain computer interface to conceivably merge our minds with AI
you know it's it's pretty bold and it's it's almost mythic when you think about it like something out of a sci fi epic but I mean I'm thinking imagine curing paralysis or restoring vision or unlocking new levels of human potential I mean I'm

(01:01:12):
drawn to that I really am but it also comes with a serious cat yet I mean who controls that ship who gets access to your thoughts your memories your your consciousness and you know the potential for for surveillance for manipulation for straight up dystopian nightmare scenarios I mean that just

(01:01:39):
that's off the charts the potential there for bad I mean it's again it's I'm conflicted by it yes that's what's get hacked right and that's what one of the topics in the professor down in
Pasalka's class that I just just wrapped up was how AI is sort of forcing us to question what does it mean to be human and were sort of look and I agree I think

(01:02:03):
that's beautiful the idea of people who are paralyzed being able to walk or to see again like I don't know that we should stop that that even with the negative side effects I just don't know it's it's it's interesting time to be a philosopher I'm sure there's so many things going on with that with that and in fact I'm I'm planning on writing a book about the darken

(01:02:25):
statement and I I but the problem with that is my research keeps growing is the how many books I need to read and I've got two of my on my literally on my desk right now that I'm trying to hack through and then my friend Jamie
Hanshal messaged me some interesting excerpts from the book about Elon Musk with some massive you know six 700 page book about Elon Musk it's kind of the most famous one biography of him and so now I've got to add that to the list too.

(01:02:54):
So I the jury's out for me and Elon Musk I I tend to label him evil and that's like my my fear of technology leads and ultra wealthy people that is why I think that but but there's room in there that I can be wrong for sure so I mean you you certainly open my eyes I have to give you credit there I mean the other thing is now his mad rush to this backup plan for me humanity and the rush to get a

(01:03:24):
colony on Mars what does he know that we don't know that's when I'm asking yeah interesting stuff one last question I'm going to let you go what do you think so the thing I like to talk to and you're in your great person
asked this question to because I try to talk to my guest who knows so much and when we're navigating this crazy world of conspiracy it's easy to go black pill meaning you're your

(01:03:52):
negative outside and outlook of everyone and and this is what contributes to people who are like all you need to you know burn all society to the ground and I think that goes to negative
sometimes but it's hard because you you talk about when we talk about these subjects of conspiracy and interdimensional aliens and Satan and all these things it's easy to become too negative and be scared and fearful and I don't think that's the right answer I don't

(01:04:20):
try not to sort of put that into my listeners either because I don't want to make people's days worse or make them full of fear even though these are very real fears and concerns do you have any advice on how we can sort of stay focused on researching these topics yet not go to black pill
that is a challenge I mean I really compartmentalize my life in that regard typically I'm not you know at the breakfast table with my family talking about these things unless they bring unless my I between boys who are 18 unless they bring it up but it's important to sort of build that firewall

(01:04:57):
between what I do you know on the podcast or on coast and and then the rest of my life I had a terrestrial radio show up until recently that was entirely different it was it was news and politics and the culture war and and and so forth but I mean occasionally the two worlds would collide I mean because you know today's conspiracy give it six months and it's tomorrow's headlines right and so a lot of what I

(01:05:26):
used to talk about on the conspiracy show you know the deep state and all that that's just that term is just become a cliche everyone's talking about the state now or the globalists 10 years ago nobody use that term in mainstream media so the world's a colliding but what I found I had to step away from that show in part because
you know things up here in Canada are pretty bleak we just reelected the liberal government after 10 lost years and the the prime minister we have now is arguably worse than the previous one except he's he's worse in that he's probably smarter he's a former banker so I was I was almost black

(01:06:07):
killing myself by that I have to step away from this but again I'm going to come back to my faith he asked me what prevents me from being black pill you know I think I think the Bible offers a lot of hope I have to look at this chaos in terms of you know it's not random it's part of God sovereign plan I always say you know we we I've already seen the movie

(01:06:37):
we know how it ends the good guys win or in the meantime we're we're being called as Christians to be watchman
to discern the signs of the times share the gospel shine a light in the dark offer hope and you know to a world that's kind of spiraling towards control and deception and we have a choice really we submit to to God or we surrender to man made systems and

(01:07:07):
you know again we know the the end of the story Christ wins and but until then we have to resist tyranny we have to defend truth and we have to ultimately I guess trust in God's
Providence so it yeah the future is brought with with with challenges but it's also an opportunity for faith to shine and in the meantime again we have to navigate AI and globalism and and surveillance and attacks on freedom

(01:07:37):
and and ultimately we have to anchor ourselves for me personally anyway in in in scripture beautiful advice I agree with you I agree with you
wholeheartedly I that's why people people get upset and scared about what about the digital matrix and I think well you know I think you just got a you got to have your your faith

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wherever you find it and for for me and you you know it's orthodoxy so yeah thanks thanks for sharing all this with me I I one last thing can you can you you're all over the place you got you got close to
close you got strange planet and you've got this really cool newsletter called Inter sanctum tell people where where they can find more Richard sir

(01:08:21):
so the best thing to do is to visit the website strange planet dot CA not dot com or appear in a conifer standing Canada so it's dot CA strange planet dot CA if you go there
you can see my my most recent podcast all of the pot you can stream all of the podcast from there were up around 1220

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episodes I think now and you can subscribe from there you can become a premium subscriber which basically is commercial free listening when you get some bonus episodes
and you can also subscribe you mentioned the monthly newsletter inter sanctum that's the official newsletter of the podcast range planet it comes out once a month

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absolutely free we just did a June edition was all about cloning and mk ultra and body doubles and so forth so again strange planet dot CA and for those of you who want to know when I'm on coast
to coast a m next all the dates are there on the website as well everything right there strange planet dot CA perfect all right I'll put those links in the

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show and all to everybody I know you're busy man so thank you so much for you know spending the time with us and and you know your your treasure in this world of conspiracy paranormal your
legends so thank you so much appreciate it all thank you Isaac I appreciate the opportunity and introducing me to your audience and I really appreciate you too your

(01:09:55):
your likewise a treasure and I look forward to our next conversation on coast or strange planet absolutely cheers
what a guy what a guy how can you not love that guy leave you look you got to love his voice that that's a million dollar voice
right there I can only dream of having a voice that silky and smooth so I hope you enjoyed that interview

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he's a guy I really look up to I love the guy check out his podcast strange planet I've been on there several times
and like like he said he hosts coast coast I am and I'll put a link in the show notes as you already know strange planet dot CA
where you can find the link to his youtube channel as well as his inner sanctum newsletter and if you
want to find my specific episodes you you know a lot of Google and stuff you can do that or you can go to my

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website the link is in the show notes if you go to all my links dot com slash Isaac w you can see I added a link to
appearances and interviews and you you can find it there as well with all the other appearances I made on like tinfoil
hat and don't know all kinds of stuff so thanks for listening to the show thanks for supporting the show
till next time stay positive

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truth is because I find myself in a very peculiar position where I don't fit in entirely in either world like I
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