“I’m not a bedroom porn star”(interview with Onyx Muse)

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Sub set and now tune and said, fuck it, let's talk about with
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die right into it. Shout outto my special guests ONEX mus let's get
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Let's talk about with Johan X.I got a good interview on here today.
I'm not gonna really talk that muchon here because usually I try to
keep those interviews to like, youknow, ten fifteen minutes, but this
one was thirty three thirty minutes somethinglike that. So it's a really good
interview. My special guests, it'sOnyx muse. She is more than just

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like an only fans creator. She'sdone been in the industry ten plus years.
She's worked with big companies. Actuallyshe started before all the contract created
air was you know around, SoI'm gonna dive into that. Let y'all
get to hear. Let y'all hearthat. Yeah, in no real big
news right now. Second podcast episodeand second week going, so I'm on

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a row. I've done it too, but I'm on a row. It's
all good. Today. I amdrinking egg no all brandy, which is
nasty. I love egging, butit's nasty. I didn't have no alcohol
at the house, so my popshas some egging all brandy, so whatever,
you know. Like I said,I don't like do any soul right,

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any a little flavor to get thisship done. Only news that guy
is that these podcasts will be droppingevery Thursday. Now. I want to
do every s every Thursday, sometimesmaybe every other but that's what the process
is gonna be. Yeah, I'mhappy doing this. The interview is great.
We talk about phantom, We talkabout shripping relationships and pooring. The

(01:48):
last episode, if you go backone is I talk about it's sex workers
are capable of love. So thisone we talked about relationships, the t
type of things she's done, tryingto be in a relationship and you know,
doing this type of indoor industry life. I always say my main goal
on this podcast is to stray awayfrom the taboo that people think about us

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and people in this industry and howpeople had a little moral compass about how
people in this industry is bad.This woman that interview, she's a mother,
got multiple business that's going, soit's not you know, a lot
of people like to have stereotypes,So I started bring all people like her
on here, so you guys canhear you know that life is life.

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Be ready to people just because youdo sex work mean you can't live a
regular life as well. But yeah, thank y'all for tuning in to Fuck
It's talk about John X. We'regonna dive into this interview. Make sure
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show, hit me up. Let'sdo it. Yeah, let's get into
it. Yeah. I'll be drinkingon here and ship too all the time.
Like I don't never do any podcastssober. I just I'm warned.

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I usually I'm a base stiller,but I've learned to like a podcasts I
smoked after or like a take likea little nit because sometimes you just be
like going off in space and that'sthe same thing. Like most time I
do this podcast like by myself andlike so even today before I did this,

(03:34):
when I was all right, thenwhat time is it? It's noon?
All right, I might be fine. I could smoke now, cause
if I like smoke thirty minutes beforegetting on here, like I don't forget
shit, I might like, youknow, like you said, space out
and ship And then when I usedto like I did my other podcasts,
you would always have guests may beexcited, like do the interview with me,

(03:57):
and they want to smoke right away, and I'm like, op,
can't do it mid inter like interviews. So that's why I'm like, whe
are my life? Yeah, yougotta do that shit after Yeah, all
right, all right, so wecanna start this, all right, So
thank you all for tune in toget us talking about with Johan X.

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I got a special guest today bythe name of Onyx. Muse. Usually
how I started off, I alwaystalk about how I knew who you are,
how we met, but I actuallymet you through CJ and before,
like I've never seen you or anything. But he he was like, hey
man, this is girl named Onyxout in Vegas. She got this show.

(04:42):
I think you'd like had a showlike on XM or something, right,
I think yes, I was ona serious sexem I thought I even
saw your podcast or or maybe cjnectedus, and then that was when I
tuned into your podcasts. Yeah,that was like probably let me see,

(05:03):
probably like five years four or fiveyears ago something like that. Yeah,
yes, for a while. Yeahthat was a minute ago. But yeah,
but yeah, so I want youto just explain who you are,
introduce everybody to yourself. I don'thave like an amazing, big gass crowd,
but I got like a little crowdthat knows a little bit of shit.

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So but yeah, go ahead,I'm on excuse. I am an
adult entertainer of about ten years now. I've done everything from boy Girl Girl
Girl. I'm also a financial dominatetrix. I do Wedge Chimmy, and
I am a constant creator on theFans and also other similar platforms. That's

(05:50):
what I was gonna mention too,Like usually when I do this, I
don't have notes and shit, becauselike I like it to just be raw
and no structure and all that.But I wrote down notes and like what
you just said, it's kind ofthe ship that kind of shit that I
want to talk about. But uh, the phantom thing was like one of
the like the main things I wantto talk to you about was telling me

(06:11):
that shit too. But yeah,I've when I started doing porn and ship
or even like with YouTube, liketo let my audience know, like,
you're not a only fans creator thatstarted doing in the pandemic. You're actually
in the adult industry. You youyou go to the AVIN Awards where a
booth and motherfuckers come see you typeporn star. Yeah, I'm not a
I'm not just a bedroom porn star. That's a good one. Guy into

(06:34):
the industry in twenty fourteen. SoI shot for not A America your sensations.
You know, I have a cherrypimps. I been around. You
have shot scenes with like twenty motherfuckersin the room, And yeah, it

(06:58):
was just such a It was kindof like an earlier time. It was
definitely before contact creating and where thehustle the industry was a lot different.
Ye definitely had to do like gobees to see if they wanted to shoot
you because there was social media,but it wasn't like how it was now.
Yeah, I actually did a ghostscene for Now of America. Like

(07:23):
when I first started off, likeI I went to La, I said,
I remember I went drove around thebuilding, went in there and sat
down with the ladies, and it'slike almost looked like a casting casting couch
type fool you sit there like alot of people nowadays don't don't even know
what a ghost scene is. Yeah, so you know, sometimes you would
go like I shot with Corna Danand I had to go meet him at

(07:45):
like literally a sports bar just sohe could see me person and improve.
And basically a ghost scene was itwould send you out to see the director
before the scene, just so theycould confirm, you know, what you
look like, when your vibe is, if you're comfortable with the explicit content

(08:07):
and all that. Yeah, Andso it's just it was such a new
era, like this era is somuch different, and a lot you're pat
I like tell girls, I'm like, yo, like you guys have it
so good. Because my agent,even when we would do like Apien or

(08:30):
exoticas, they didn't even want peopleto interview. I remember I always I
had a guy tried to do aninterview with me, and I think he
had like a YouTube channel. Heeventually put it on YouTube, but the
agents were really not wanting the performersto interview because you were kind of you

(08:50):
had this like type cast like persona, and they didn't want the fantasy of
the fans to I with your youknow, you're human self, So they
were really not into interviews. SoI think we're in such like a great

(09:11):
time to be alive in this industrybecause with podcasting and trust, the level
of the amount of stories that wenow tell is so like amazing. Yeah
that's when I when I started,I had to I was emailing all the

(09:31):
agencies like at MLA, all them, yeah, and a lot of them
wouldn't take me. They said thatI had too many tattoos, and like
now you can see like no thatthat's not that's not an issue no more
because when I started, were usinglike some of the same five guys that
were like know for black guys,you know, they're same same rotae in
a minute out. So I finallyfound an agency and I had to move
to LA. I tell people now, are even girls like you can be

(09:54):
from Minnesota and never leave Minnesota andbe one of the bi because uh personalities
or whatever you want in this industryjust because you can do everything from home.
Now you don't have to go toa ghost scene and fly to La
for the dream. No more.Totally like when I first joined too that
my agent first was like, ohdyre hair brown and no more tattoos.

(10:20):
And I didn't have a lot oftattoos, but you know I had a
few, and I was just likeI went and got another tattoos and my
hair red again, and I waslike no. I was like this.
I was like, you guys cannotget me work with me. That I
worked as the way that I lookright now, and you're not the agency
for me, and I'll go findsomebody else. So of course they didn't.

(10:43):
They didn't do that, and theystill signed me. But it was
it wasn't as excepting now as youknow girls can be. I mean,
you know Barny Rotten, you knowshe really helped it where women could be
fully tattered. Yeah. I thinkshe's from the Bay too. Yeah.

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Yeah, So it was really endplus you know, colored hair. They
were not feeling, you know,the more alternative look out. It's like
girls can't have all kinds of colorfulhair, and you know, it's very
like a very narrow idea, likeeven with because I think I see one

(11:28):
of your scenes you did. Ithink it was not America like I know
they're seeing mostly those production companies hadtheir their type of view and how they
wanted things, and back then youcouldn't like I couldn't see anybody with hell
of tattoos working for that company orwith orange hair on the com Yeah.
I didn't really fit in everybody's box. And what was crazy was I was

(11:50):
so I was a dominatrix before Igot into corn. So of course for
my size, you know, I'monly fight too their petite, so they
were always trying to put me inthese you know, teen roles where it
was very like a submissive type ofcharacter, and I was always pushed back

(12:11):
on my I was like, nope, nope, I don't like that.
And then so I think in thebeginning it was hard because it didn't take
it seriously. And I get it, like, sure, you could probably
change your beliefs or whatever for thetime being to get to check. But
I was really about building my brands, and it was hard because you're dealing

(12:37):
with a lot of misogyny. You'redealing with men that just want so like
you know, getting out of acar coming in, I don't want to
take this damn it not right now, I don't want to hit the button,

(13:00):
and so it like takes it.So I'm just gonna like let it
right out. You good. SoI was done. People shouldn't Instagram be
calling me uh yeah, no,like they really were not about women being
like in a dominant role, andI get it. I was new,

(13:26):
so they just didn't get it andI was just married, like firm on
no, like he's not of myboundaries, Like I'm not gonna beat And
that's that's smart though, because whenyou because I never that just came to
my mind. Thing of that,like when you're in there, especially you
you like, you know you dothe fiendom things, that's like that's dominant
shit. You know, doing somethingsoft with these bigger companies is fucking up

(13:50):
your bottom dollar with your other people, with your real clients that you may
have on the science stuff, becausethey see you doing that. It's like,
because that's one thing I learned whenit comes to the dominant dominators and
the fiedlom and shit, is youhave to talk a certain way. You
got to be a certain way ifthey even like you know, with sending
someone sending you a five hundred dollartip. It's not thank you, sweetie,
it's like, yeah, motherfucker,it should have been here yesterday.

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You know, like you you talkthat way, and it's like they're getting
off on that. But if you'reover here working with these production companies and
they're making you be the soft housewifeand do all this shit, it's it's
fucking up your image. It wasyeah, because I had my I already
had my fans so and you know, my submissive type of clientele that I
was trying to be really rightful.And also I wasn't from a small town

(14:35):
in Middle America. I'm from LAI lived there. I was like,
so it wasn't a necessity that likeI had to shoot so much and trying
to get my toesen. I waslike, yo, like I'm already,
like, I'm already a hustler,So you either want me or you don't.

(14:58):
I remember I'm going on one ofthe scenes I did for Chart Pimps,
and I would bring with shit,you know, I bring my gear
and director was like, oh,yeah, like maybe you can whip her
with that and then she could getyour whip. And I said no,
I said, if used me,I said, if she wants to whip

(15:18):
me, she could have her ownwhip. I was like, I don't.
I was like, this is mine, it's my father, and I
don't hand it over. And soI was really I mean it was really
hard. But like a lot ofdirectors or a lot of these men in
the industry, they really don't understandthe dynamic obedient stam. They don't want

(15:39):
to understand it, and they're justlike, who is this bitch? She's
like, why can't you just can'tyou just conform and just do like this
role to get this check. SoI was really like putting my foot down
in at a time that it wasreally hard for these guys to understand.
Yeah, because when you just becausethat was your personality, when you were

(16:03):
coming from like a lot of likeyou said, when you go to these
companies, you're going to go getthat check. You're playing, You're going
to go play a role and shit, like you know you're going there for
like I've been I worked with fuckwas it Realities or Browsers that I went
to like Malibu and it was likea milf and then a step daughter,
Like you know, I got tosit there and play a role, like
I might be a pool. It'slike the role that you're playing, but

(16:23):
I know for guys is a littledifferent. But yeah, it's just when
others like back then, when youdo it, you don't have to have
that personality, but now it's soeasy to make that personality. You don't
have to worry about that. Itwas so hard and even too, Like
I ate I dated a corn dude, John John. She was my boyfriend

(16:45):
at the time when I first gotin and day I finally was able,
like one of my last seams beforeI like took a little break was top.
Uh. It was more new sensationsand they made us beat dead brother

(17:07):
and sister and then literally like itwas so hard to this was this is
while you guys were dating. Yeah, the whole storyline was really gross,
and they knew we were boyfriend andgirlfriends, so it was kind of like
the buff with us, right,you know. They were like giving me

(17:27):
the gracest like, yeah, youcould pick girl star, which you know
if I don't think that doesn't happen, and they had their little plot and
we did it and we still madeit hot, but like naturally, like
it was really gross and I reallydidn't want to do a kind of Even
after that, I wanted to stopdoing any of these type of like incest

(17:51):
kind of uh scenarios. Yeah,like they could have made that any other
type of scene even like right likemade be my neighbor, me whatever,
And it was just like I feltlike they purposely did it. And you
know, the industry they play gameslike that, especially in my time,

(18:11):
like I was, I kind ofdid these back words. I did interracial
in the beginning, Like I wasactually very comfortable doing interracial, but it
was only because in my natural life, like my long, my long relationship
at the time, I was withthe black man and I had dated black
men before, so I really wasn'tit wasn't scary to me. But you

(18:37):
know, for the agency side andthe production side, that's like taboo.
Yeah, they want you, theywant you to come in. Yeah,
they like want you to come inand do like regular scenes white guys or
whatever. Keep yeah, and justkeep doing that, and then it's a
build up for the I R Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy because a lot

(18:59):
of see, like when I knewwhen I started the porn industry, I
saw that like a lot of girlshave to wait. So when I was
trying to do things on the side, because this one dude told me it
was like, man, the bestthing you could do when you get into
the industry you go down to La. Yeah, I do a couple of
scenes, get your name out thereand get your check, but pick up
a camera for yourself. So,like, even before only fans and all
that, I was always trying todo that. So I was hitting up
girls trying to see if they're shootwith me. Well, you know what

(19:25):
was funny, and this is kindof how I met John. John was
there was these privates and this ishow I sort of found the porn industry.
I was going to these like highend like sex parties with and I
was dating a guy at the time. I was like my first folder guy.
And it was really funny because hewould bring these porn girls and then

(19:48):
he would have these like really highyou know, like porn dudes, and
they would be like yeah, they'rekind of like prepping for a scene,
and I didn't get that. Iwas like, oh word. And so
then the guy was like, ohyeah, he's like wick. Would you
ever saw a black guy? Iwas like, fuck, my guy.
I was like what I was liketalking about the time. Why not?

(20:12):
But those girls, it was reallyfunny because they literally were like, oh,
are you scared? Are you?I'm like, girl, no,
like you just like it's a wholeit's it's it's just a different vibe.
But I didn't. It really didn'tregister for me until I got into the

(20:37):
industry to understand that, Yeah,there was levels do it and I and
I really feel like it's very racistbecause those girls would get paid more.
Yeah when they first drew that bigscene. Yeah, the guy's not getting
paid more. So I don't understand. That's like when I when I was
trying to find girls you shoot with. I'm hitting up all these girls I
first started, and a lot wouldsay not saying no asn't no, they

(21:00):
won't suck me into a shoot withme? Is it's no, I have
to wait because I just did myfirst couple of shoots. They want me
to wait to shoot anybody. SoI I was like out of loud,
Okay, so I just have tosit back and wait for any r ir
scenes that come my way. ButI can't go out and go get anything
myself because I have to wait.Yeah, Like that's I don't I don't

(21:23):
get that and yeah, and ourrace, our race didn't change. Rates
are the same. We don't getmore because that girl's doing that, that's
that's for her, that's her bonus. Yeah, and it's I, you
know, And that's why, youknow, when I was in my relationship,
it was really hard for us becausehe's a male performer and really,

(21:44):
you know, he did well withdoing kind of like off. He would
like connect with them outside of filmingsso that they can request him for scenes,
and I understood the hustle, andI eventually like we're still free friends.
I eventually had to step out ofthe relationship because it was just like

(22:08):
hard for us to really just haveour own time to connect because you know,
he and I wasn't gonna knock.I wasn't gonna like mess bag up
now. So it's like really hardto some kind of date other performers.
Yeah, that's what I just did. My last episode was about that because

(22:30):
the way I got into porn,like I started doing like moving to La
did that first, but like thefirst three years, three and a half
years of me doing this was withyou know a girl, jail Jaliza Filipino
girl. We've That's kind of whatgot me going and got me famous on
my own. Without working with companies, I was able to say fuck that,
I can just do this. Solike, I definitely understand that that
dynamic and it could be good andit could be bad because we have someone

(22:52):
working with you. Sometimes people likelike I always used to this is like
the easiest way to say it,like okay, and you know it because
you you're working strip clubs a lot. Yeah, the guy would go into
a strip club, meet the girlto do whatever, lover in there.
Somehow they connect outside, they wantto talk, I want to be with
each other. Everything's cool. Theymight even moving with each other. Then
next you know, the guys sayingI don't want you working in that club

(23:15):
no more. Oh yeah, youknow that's that's that's how I look at
it with the relationship, because beinga relationship, doing this can slow you
down. Like you said, it'shard to connect, especially if you guys
are allowing out shooting, and nomatter how long you're with someone saying as
business, we're making the money,it's it's a relationship still at the end
of the day, you know whatI mean. So it's yeah, and
it would be it would be socrazy too because sometimes like we would go

(23:38):
to parties together and obviously, likeyou know, he or he would bring
meet some like some clients that hehad, you know, they would kind
of have a party and the bitcheswould be hitting on me because I'm with
him. However, you know,I'm not doing nothing and I'm not claiming
ownership love him or whatever. Butit was just like, you know,

(24:00):
and it's just saying, it's justthe same with a guy was you know,
a client was with me and hewould be jealous of another guy.
Though. It was just really hard, and also I was in the time
space where I was getting ready togo to Vegas permanently, and so it

(24:22):
was just it was just very hard. But I the only thing that I
really enjoyed about it was that Iwas able to like be with somebody that
really understood like the things I'm goingthrough to think, you know, being
in this industry, like he would. And he's still it is this such

(24:44):
an understanding person and I can talkto him. It's just so cool he
can offer because he had a lotof experience being in the industry, he
can be kind of like, youknow, just someone that would a little
bit of a mentor like tell mewho's who who to fuck with? Who
did not fuck with and fuck withme. So that was the only great

(25:07):
thing about you know, dating anotherperformer. Did you guys used to shoot
a lot together? Not really,we were just we only guys to shoot
one scene together. And I stillthought it was like special for me,
But nah, we were really likeI mean, how I met him was,

(25:32):
uh, people wanted us to likeget involved with each other and stuff,
and we just had a really goodvibe and then we would just you
know, interact with each other andit was fun. But we actually didn't
film a lot of it. Wewould probably have some hot shit, but
it was just like it was justreally good sex with like a really good

(25:59):
human. No filming, it wasnot on my mind, wasn't on his
mind, and it was just reallydope. Yeah, so you guys didn't
like get together for the you know, like for the book. Yeah.
We knew each other before I gotinto the industry, and even when I'm
pitting in. What made me verycomfortable was he was experiencing in the industry

(26:23):
and he could kind of like alot of people respected him. So when
they would let him know that wewere together, like you would kind of
make people not like try to fuckwith me, you know, negativity.
Yeah, that's a good thing tohave. Yeah. Oh, let's see

(26:45):
where we are right now. SoI try to keep these light twenty thirty
minutes. So before I before Ilet you go, I want you to
tell me, like a funny story, like I always like to leave it
off like this, something like maybea scene that went to or like someone
when you're working in the strip club, like a funny story that you know,
it could be anonymous. You don'thave to like you anything being in

(27:07):
the strip club. Yeah, stripclub, or from a from a shoot
that you went to, like somefunny ship that had happened. Well,
I don't have so many funny stories, like uh, what I like?
What I like about working in thestrip club. And I don't think I'm
superior to any ladies, you know, other not porgn ladies. But I

(27:33):
kind of felt that my value wasa little more because when I would sit
with people, I was said withthe guys and they'd always be like,
I don't like what's your name?And I'll be like, I'm on excuse
and they'll be like that that ning'sstupid, and like that's that's all that,
that's what you came up with hera sugar name. And I'd be
like, no, actually, I'ma porn star because strippers don't have last

(27:57):
things. And then they'll be like, what you're a corn striker, Like
are you on a corn cub?I'm like yeah, and they'll like pull
off their phone they'll check it andthen they'll just like oh shit. They're
like do you feel you're on aporn star? And it's like seeing like
an alien? Right, So thenthey want to like sit with me,
and then they just like literally likeout. They want to ask me all

(28:18):
these questions and then I gotta putmy hustle on it, like okay,
you gotta pay for my time.But it is literally it's almost like a
great business card. I just gottashow the corn hub account so they know
that I'm like legit and it's literallyopened doors. You know, that's that's
in value right there. Yeah.So it's really funny. And then it's

(28:41):
also like cool because they can reallyrespect that I'm not like a bitch that's
in the club that I'm like playing. Am I a bad bitch? Like?
Nah? Like I straight up shotporn. I have like you know,
I have more balls in those guys, so you know, the respect

(29:03):
level is crazy, and so itjust it's always worked for me. I
was like my contract. I wasbided in a three year contact when I
first signed, but I was gettingshelved because obviously I wasn't you know,
conforming to uh you know, doingthe more chimistic roles. But then also

(29:27):
now I wasn't like looking up atmy agent. I wasn't living in the
model houses. So there was alot of things that usually if girls do
those things and they kind of getan advantage or shoot. But I was
like really like, nah, I'mnot gonna do that because I'll just go
to the strip club and I'll makemore money doing not even though like I

(29:49):
shot like thirty sixteens while I wasin the club, Like that was enough
for me to just all I gottado is you know, flash that and
yeah, but I mean I gotcrazy stories. I've traveled. I you
know, now I do features,but I used to, like I used

(30:10):
to go to New York. Idance there, I dance. I would
dance in La and Vegas for awhile until like during the pandemic when I
had my baby and here full time. So I mean, I I got
crazy stories, but the whole porncard, I mean it really works for
you where I don't really gotta likework that hard. I like working smarter.

(30:34):
Yeah, definitely, That's why Iused it one time too, like
my it's my friends bachelor party andI was drunk and shit, and like
it works the opposite way too.I get in there talking because I'm not
It's crazy. I'm not the biggestlike strip club person just because and this
was like before I was into porn. I went to like Rhino for the
first time, and it should justchanged my world. That's like when I

(30:57):
was playing overseas basketball and I waslike, no, it's it was like,
man, I love this ship.And it was like last time I
went to the strip club, Likeman, I can remember this. Should
it be like like eight nine yearsago, Like I don't go in there,
but I went like a quick period, real quick, just one time
for a bachelor party and I'm inthere talking to the girls and I'm like
pull my phone out and I showthem my only fans and like, oh

(31:18):
wait, should you do this?And it just it was a different connection,
like up talking with them girls wouldlove you, like I swear like
I'd be like I had these guysfrom Thunder down Under like em into the
club and they were like trying totalk to me and stuff. But then
they were like man, they werelike, can you just, like you

(31:41):
know, help help us out?And I started thinking about and I was
like, damn. I was like, I really wish I could open a
club for women to objectify men,Like I like, now women are making
money, Like I wish I couldgo to a club and I could just
spend some bread on men. Butlike you know, I don't need to
take them home. I don't needto, like you know, I just
want to have that that time littlehang out time you girls, you know,

(32:07):
Like I really like I think,you know, there needs to be
a place for women to do that. Yeah. I get a lot of
dudes that would be like, heycan you You're like, I'll let you
pick me out. I kind ofI won't you think about it? Oh
shit, that's the idea. Yougotta you gotta start that. I need

(32:28):
to round up some like you know, sugar mamas, Cli you tell I
need to find for day because it'sit, I mean, for guys for
us it's that's like it's the hardestthing for us to get that type of
shit, Like I've like the bestthing of the type of shit I've had
was like a husband want me tofuck his wife, and like he's paying
me for that, but I'm youknow, integaging with the wife and that's

(32:50):
like the closest thing to something Iget. But like women, man,
you got, especially with the phenomshit, like I wish somebody could just
sitting Like if I had to picka category that I want to be in,
like I'll pick fham Like I ain'tgotta do too much, just sa
sim me so fucking money, allright. You know if you look on
Twitter, men can do it too. This isn't just a female thing.

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I didn't say you have to bea certain type of man to do this.
And we're not talking about gay menas you're clientele. I definitely know
that these women, these four says, these widows, you know, these
doctors because I got a Honie whohe is a strip club DJ, but

(33:35):
he's been in like the adult world. He used to work for exotica stuff
and I swear and you know hejust you know, he works out.
He looks good, he's got thevibe and he begins these doctors, these
fucking like lawyers, these big thesewader riches, and they just like he
knows how to rock their fucking worldand like, you know, talk to

(33:58):
them all dirty and stuff, andI swear and I tell him, I'm
like shit, like he's teach othermen how to do it, because it's
literally like what I do, exceptthe role reversals. Yea. The hardest
thing for us is just it isfinding it, Like you know, I
didn't have it here and there acouple of women and stuff. It's just

(34:19):
it's like I've been on dates withfifty year old women and at Santa Monica
Pier eating and ship people might thinkthis is my grandma or something like I
don't, but this lady's paying meto be here, Like but we don't.
You know, you guys got menthrowing that at you. It's like
it's not it's scared for you know, we need an agency of women like
that that we can choose. Imet these guys. They're jigglos and I

(34:40):
mean they're just it was interesting tome because they were like laced up.
Chabanschi had to tell Louie Gucci,and I was like, yo, like
this is what your bitches be dohim. They're like, yeah, we
have them take up shopping, youknow, and they'll be like, I
mean then, I like, youknow, sexiest women. But they're the

(35:04):
connection is really good with them andthey really understand like they have to be
that kind of that very masculine type, you know, for these women to
just be like shit, They're like, I'm a sponsor your drawers, I'm
a sponsor your fits, your shoes. I'm gonna get you all these stuff,

(35:27):
and I like, I respect it. I'm like, you go way,
I'm gonna be a sugar mama whenI get I want to pay it
forward. You know. It's allthe industry, you know, right.
And also I feel like it's nota bad thing because you can really like

(35:47):
change their life. And I youknow, I got kind of a couple
of little boy tooids that I've seen. I've done a little things. I've
bought some guys suits and that's whatI'm not that I'm not that old,
and I got a few. Igot a few like that right now,
some young girls that I like andthat I'm you know that I talked to
you so it's all on our agerange rights. Right, It's something.

(36:15):
I mean some people get off onshit like that, like doing something for
someone that's something to get off on, right, I mean I've had I've
had other girlfriends. You know,they do that to guys, like some
girls that are like a sports Ithink making that money, theyke it,
spend it like that. Like nowI'm a parent, so I can't be

(36:37):
just throwing money out like that.But you know, I think I think
it's awesome. I think because mendon't have the clients. Hell how us
women have, it's fun to youknow, brighten up their day just for
being sexy. Yeah, so beforewe end this, you want to give

(37:00):
all your social media's Instagram, Twitter, all that. Yes, you guys
can find me on Instagram on xmus XO and on Twitter on xmus x
x. And if you want toget any links to my spicy stuff,
what do my website on xsocial clubsfill up performs you'll get a free trial

(37:22):
to my only fans. Oh yeah, and I saw your your social club
link, so y'all should go there. There's there's a lot of information on
there. Yeah, I'm working ondoing some events. I have some stuff
to work, so and working onmerch right now too. Nice. Well,
thank you for coming on. Ireally appreciate it. This has been

(37:43):
in the works for a minute.I'm kind of comment really appreciate it.
But definitely we stay in touch andI'll be out there in Vegas, uh
radar season, So I'm going tocome out there for some games, you
know, whichever. You know.I'm doing sub collapse and I'm being selected
with my collapse. But I'm like, I see you, I see you

(38:05):
on working any all right, Iappreciate It's a good song to you.
Bye bye.