November 23, 2024 • 41 mins
Dustin Jarrett jois the show to wrap up the Castrol Flo Racing Night in America Season and looks ahead to Gateway Dirt Nationals.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome back to the Ohio Dirt Track Podcast. We're excited
to have you back here for episode number.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
One twenty four. I believe my name is.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Clint Knight, I'm Jacob Pardon, and we have Dustin Jared
on the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're excited to have you on. We haven't had you
on since twenty nineteen. I believe it was episode twenty two,
so one hundred and one episodes ago you were on
and we were generally talking about late mil late models
and what you're up to at the time at that point,
and we're excited to hear about what you've had going
on recently, and then we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Some events that are coming up. So howard the going
with you and how the travel has been.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Travels have been good. I'm a little disappointed that it
took one hundred and two episodes for me to come back.
I mean, I don't I got to know, like, of
all the guests you've had on twice, like, is you know,
do they all have like a like a one hundred
episode gap in between their appearances too, or you know,
I mean you guys just putting it to me or
what here?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Clinton, Jacob, I mean, I think I think Greg Wilson
had about one hundred episodes between him, or between you know,
his first and second ones.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So so I'm in good company, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, exactly. Can't can't get much better than Greg Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yes, no, guys, things are things are good here. It's
it's it's been an incredibly busy year. I think that's
that's really cliche to say as well, because everyone's like, oh,
we're so busy. It's a busy here, But it really
has been. I mean, I I'm going to finish the
year with almost one hundred races again attended, and I
mean of those hundred that I attended, over eighty I
(01:59):
will have worked. And so it is at the time
of recording this, it is nice to actually be home
for a few days. My wife and I went out
to dinner last night. She thankfully has not changed the
locks on the doors in the house or hasn't like
trained the dog to rip my leg off when I
walked through the door or anything like that. So we're
(02:20):
so things are good on that end too.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So you're just getting back from Sonoya, right hanging out
at the final Castroal race with our friend John Matthews.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah. Well John Matthews man who who made a post
actually r after the event that that was going to
be his last rates at Snoy.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So what's funny is I mean we did the whole
weekend with him, and we've got to know John fairly
well over the last couple of years, you know, from
just doing those events at Sonoy and everything and uh,
and we built a good relationship. He went the whole
weekend and didn't tell us that was going to be
his last race. Like what hell? Like we could have
thrown you, he said me a text the next day,
(03:01):
And I was like, well, man, like we could have
you know, we could have thrown a party for you
or something. But yeah, man, Sonoy, it was. We had
the best weather we've ever had for that race this year.
Normally we're battling you know, typical Georgia fall weather, right
like temps in the mid fifties and like this light
mist of rain in the air, and and we didn't
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have that. Over the weekend. It was. It was highest
right around seventy degrees each day. You couldn't script better weather,
fantastic feel to cars. We had a rough track the
first night it rained on Wednesday, not a ton, it
rained almost an inch, but just that that kind of
grayish clay that they have when it's mixed in, you
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get you get it. Even just a little bit of
rain in that that can really penetrate that dirt pretty well.
And that was what happened. But Bubba Pollard and the
guy's Bubba's just an awesome dude. I mean him and
his wife Andrea as fantastic people. His crew. They worked
the track overnight literally after the Life Fast race on Friday,
and then we had we had the stereotypical Sonoi Raceway.
(04:06):
Then on Saturday, Ricky Thornton Junior won both nights and
that ended up catapulting him to his first ever Castro
Flow Racing Night in America Championship.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm saying, you can't complain. You have a championship that
comes down to the last last race, and you know,
drivers swopped the championships, so you can't complain much about that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, And and we've never had a repeat winner in
this little series we've done as well. It was the
fourth year that that we've done it, and it's you
know it, it's something that you know, I don't think
that we had that we talked about the last time
I was on the show because it was pre COVID,
and in this idea really kind of came to fruition
during COVID. You know, Rixby always had this idea of like, man,
(04:46):
I wish we could do some sort of like mid
week series, right, like just a handful of races. There's
just something sexy about midweek racing. And again you think back, really,
I mean, prior to COVID, we didn't really have that
many mid week races in any form of racing. The
World of Outlaws sprint car series, you know, they did some,
but there there really wasn't a ton else. And so
(05:08):
I think it took COVID for us to find out like,
oh yeah, like people will actually go to races in
the middle of the week, and with the help of flow,
like we can actually make this profitable for the tracks
and for the drivers and and you know that you know,
maybe for us as well. And so I mean that's
how that whole idea got started, and it's been I mean,
(05:29):
now we got a waiting list of you know, thirty
race tracks, of races we got we literally we had
drivers coming up to us at Sonnoy this past weekend,
Guys that have not run the you know, our little
mini series before say that your schedule is so awesome,
like I want to run the series next year and
and everything, and that's cool. I mean that just again,
it shows sometimes you think that that you're you're a
(05:52):
little series that could isn't really a lot, right, So
I mean again, we got ten races. You know, one
or two of those can get rained out of times,
but it really goes to show like all the hard work.
You like, people notice like they really do enjoy the series,
watching it, running it and having their home track.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I was saying, it's one of those series.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I've been to a couple of those races and I
tend to watch them just because it's some of these
tracks that don't get those big series all that often obviously,
like places like El Dora does, but you'll also go
to like the Marshall towns, you know, and that's it's
just super cool to see those races held on those
tracks that don't get a lot of the you know,
(06:30):
national tours.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You're exactly right, and and you know, Marshalltown we're really
really hoping to bring back in twenty twenty five. We
couldn't this year. It just there wasn't really a great
place to fit it in the schedule. And it's funny
you bring it up, Jacob, because actually I talked to
their promoter, Jerry Vance, like on the phone earlier today
and we were talking about twenty twenty five, and I
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think we've got a date carved out. We just we
got to jump through a few hoops and hopefully we
can get them back on the schedule. But you know,
we did want to force a date with them in
twenty twenty four as well, and that's what it would
have been. We would have been shoving a date in
just to make it work, just to say we were
going to go, and that you know that that's not
usually a win win for either side, Right we got
(07:14):
I seventy five or we had I seventy five on
the schedule this year that didn't come to fruition. That
would have been kind of a new fun track that
that's really kind of stepped a little more into the
spotlight over the last couple of years as well. We're
working on one or two maybe cool things for twenty
twenty five still as well, maybe a new event, you know,
a new track or two that goes on their possibility
(07:35):
of expanding Illinois speed Week from a four day deal
to a five day deal. So we're we're looking at
a lot of different things with that right now. But
I think the I think the Flow Night in America
schedule for twenty five is I expect ten races again,
but I think you're going to see two or three
four little changes on there. I think that that will
really that will really appeal to the fans.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hopefully we can see Marshall time back on that because
it would give me an excuse to go back out there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
You know, my.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Favorite track in the world. I tell everybody that my
favorite racetrack in the entire world was Marshalltown Speedway.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Let's say my wife was actually like born and raised
in Marshalltown, Iowa before moving out to Ohio, and we
went was at twenty twenty two two or twenty twenty three,
we went to Marshalltown. It was the first time she
had been been to Marshalltown since twenty fourteen, and she
had never been to the track before. She could hear
everything from her house, but that was the first time
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we had been to Marshalltown and I fell in love
with the place.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So was your wife A was she a Marshalltown Bobcat?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Then she was, well, she was technically homeschooled. But okay, okay, I.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Was gonna say she hadn't been to the track because
she hadn't met you yet.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You mentioned the midweek, you know, the addition of the
series and the midweek and picking up their post COVID.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I think in a lot of these areas the
season seems so short, or maybe through that COVID experience
we realized it was so short that adding that midweek,
those mid week midweek events didn't feel like it was saturated.
You know, we could be there Friday, we could be
their Saturday, but now we could be there Wednesday too.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, that's a good point, Clint. And and that's something
that you know, we've done with an event or two
in the past, right, you know Fairbury this year in
El Dora, both we moved to the same week of
the event. And it's I mean, I'll just be very honest,
that's not something that we would like to make a
habit of. Right, Brownstown got moved to the week of
the event, but it was originally supposed to be earlier.
(09:38):
So it's again it's a fine line because I do
think you are I think you're you're spot on to
an extent when you say that it doesn't oversaturate. But
I do think there are some areas or markets where
it could oversaturate, right, And and so again we try
our very best to be uh as as accommodating to
(09:59):
the dry and the tracks as we can. A Brown
sounds a great example, you know. I mean, we moved
the event because it got rained out on its original
date this year, the eight we moved it was the
original Jackson one hundred league well, which was a great idea,
and we had our race on Wednesday. Then the problem,
of course was there was it was literally a one
hundred percent chance of rain from Thursday night all the
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way through Sundays. And so that in itself was I
don't know if problem is the right word, but it
gets to be problematic. You know, you're pulling all those
guys there for this one event, than when that rain's
coming in out And now again we all can't control
the weather. We know that, and but in the same
sense that goes against what we want. We don't want
to pull all those guys just to one track and
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out of the way when when something like that happens.
But like I said, we can't predict the weather. But
I appreciate the mention there, Clinton, And that's again, I
don't think you're going to see anything more aggressive with
that in twenty twenty five. As a matter of fact,
we've actually backed off one of those. But again, I
think that you can certainly anticipate that Fairbury date coming back,
(11:03):
and and certainly an El Dora date back on its
original schedule of Dream Week.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Also, yeah, I think there's definitely Yeah, you went out,
this was this your first at Fairbury?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, I went out. I ended up going out twice
this year.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Rigsby got me out there for the May Lucas Oiler
Race and then watching Devin Moran and his qualifying lap
there made me feel things inside that I haven't felt
in a long time, and that got me back there
for the PDC on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's uh, you know, I don't know, like we catch
some grief about Fairbury, right, you guys are Fairbury home
or number one? I lived seven hours from that's white accurate, right,
Like I got to pass by a lot of restracts
get from my house to Fairbury. But but I will
say this that everybody at Fairbury, you know, treats you
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like you are one of their own. You know, They've
done that for years. I mean shit, I got guys,
I got people to walk by me at Fairbury and
other tracks as well, but Fairberry especially to say hi
to me, and you know, my wife like who's that
and I'm like, I don't know, you know, and that
I mean, this happens multiple times a day. And it's
because look, the hype video they did for the PDC
was spot on. The people at Fairberry loved their track.
(12:20):
They love their town, they love their area, and they
want you to love those things as much as they
love those things. And so that's why when you come there,
I mean, they're gonna take you out, they're gonna roll
out the red carpet, they're gonna save you seats, they're
gonna you know, they want you to love this thing
as much as they love this thing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It also helps, by the way, the racing is really
freaking good. Yeah. I was just gonna say, you know,
and the PDC was probably my race of the year.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I oh, listen, I'll tell you this as well, all right,
and I probably shouldn't tell you this, but we just
did our voting. So as you know, there's a group
of us that vote for Race of the Year on
dirt on dirt, and the PDC was my vote. That
was my vote for the Race of the Year this year.
I'll tell you that right here live on the air.
So so if it doesn't gam, it doesn't get it
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that that was where my vote went. I think there's
three or four really really good candidates this year, but
that was where my vote went.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I was saying, I was sitting right behind some big
Bobby Pierce fans in that and it was it was
a sight to behold.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was, you know, we were me and Riggsby and
Ben were there together and and Dylan Scott was there right,
country music singer. Dylan's guy who's partnered with us on
the Castro Flow Night in America stuff, and he was
just blowing away, like sitting there talking to him and
and you know, knowing he's already a big late Model fan,
but then I mean also seeing you know, seeing his
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reaction and seeing like just seeing his face and and
you know how much he enjoyed it and stuff. Again
that was that was the cool thing for me too, right,
It's like, man, like this dude is really into this
and like again that's those are the kind of things
that you that you lived for with this stuff, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Really is something I'm noticing interesting here. I mean, Jacob
and I've been doing this five.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Or six years now, and uh, Jacob jere.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
This is going.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Very self proclaimed sprint car stop is slowly becoming a
late model fan and the and Fairbury probably put a
boat on that.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's all part of our evil plan to converse one
and so we're very very slowly. He let's not forget
as well the very first time that Wing four tens
went to Fairberry a few years back at Robert also,
So I mean, you know, listen, that's I mean, maybe
that has something to do with it too. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh man, I'm telling you guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Appreciate that, thank you, and and that's you know, I
can't take a ton of credit. I mean we it's
it's no secret to a lot of folks. Rigsby and
Ben Shelton and I we have a group text. We
literally talk every single day, and uh, you know, Ben
is a general manager, is just tremended with that series,
riggs me with his vision even though he's not at
the event. I mean, his vision carries out a lot
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of things. And I mean those two guys honestly deserve
as much credit as anyone.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So but we're getting close to for as of tonight's recording,
we're two weeks away from Gateway Dirt Nationals, So enjoy
these next two weeks. So I don't know, is this
technically the off season or is the off season between
Gateway and Vado.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
No, you know, I always I always joke, Jacob, I
always joke and tell people my off season is like
after speed Weeks because I got like this break for
about six weeks from speed Weeks until usually the first
event that I do in you know, late March or
early April. So that's the that's the closest thing I
get to an off season ideas. But yeah, Gateway, man,
(15:51):
what Gottley? I can't believe it's here again already, the
ninth one. I mean we got you know, of course
we get we got COVID it out in twenty twenty,
But just like a rain, now, you still I mean,
it's you still consider this the ninth annual running of
the eVision, Right, It's it's crazy to think. I mean again,
I I remember when Cody Summer first told me about this.
(16:11):
Uh again, I mean we're talking a year in advance, right,
and I'm like getting indoor dirt late model race.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
They've tried that, that ain't gonna work, you know, And
here we are, I mean, nine years later, and it's
probably the hottest ticket in uh not just dir late
model racing outside the Chili Bowl Knoxville Nationals.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Right, I mean, as you know, the world wonder the
hottest ticket in racing.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think Clinton and I are both you know, first
timers going to Gateway. So how would you describe Gateway
to someone who's never been there before?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Electric? I mean, that's the best way to put it, right.
It's it's the atmosphere is incredible, the the when they
do so there's we have such a build up to
the main event for this show, right, and it's Look,
this is one of these deals where like you can
see really good racing in the heats and prelimbs and stuff. Look,
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if we're being really truthful with a lot of events nowadays, uncurf.
It's late models or sprints or big blocks or whatever.
A lot of times you see heats that are and
then a feature that can be above average, right or
the opposite. If the heats are really good, A lot
of times the feature could be lackluster. You don't have
that at Gateway. I mean you've got just got total
NonStop action the entire time that you're there. The you're
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watching dirt late models and dirt modified indoors on a
full one fifth mile racetrack, and it's it's it is
truly an electric atmosphere in an electric environment, because I
mean you don't know if one lap someone is going
to make a last lap pass, if someone's gonna rip
down part of the fence, who's going to do what?
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During driver intros and then and then on top of it,
I mean got a line that I used the second
year that we were there where I said that, I mean,
Gateway is the great equalizer, right. You don't have to
have a sixty thousand dollars haul motor and a brand
new sixty thousand dollars chassis to go out there and race.
You've got guys that are running race cars that are
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five six seven plus years old. You got guys running
small or crate motors as well, and so I think
that's that's part of the lore from the driver's side,
but especially from the fans side. Outside of the fact
that it's dirt, late models indoors in December and all
of that, fans show up there knowing that that their
favorite local or regional driver, honest to goodness, has just
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as good of a chance to win as the national
touring stars do. And that's something that again just quite candidly,
we can't really say a lot of places anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And we've seen that with you know, Tyler Carpenter and
that was what twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one when
it was back to back and I mean that, you know,
his interviews after he won. I mean those are the
two biggest ones of his career and you know it,
I probably you know, changed his life, really.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah it. You know a lot of people will give,
you know, circling back on that, a lot of people
will give Tyler a hard time, right you know, Ah,
you know we've heard the same story West Virginia and
grew up from nothing and whatever else. But but I
think what a lot of people sleep on is is
that emotion in his voice is one million percent real,
whether you believe the other stuff or not. And I do.
(19:29):
I've known, I've known Tyler and his family literally my
I mean my entire life.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I grew up watching Freddie Race. I grew up seeing
Freddie Carpenter in the early two thousands open up the
door to his pickup truck and all and Tyler and
all the neighborhood kids running out of the truck. So
the story tells, I see that happen, right, But that
emotion in Tyler's voice, man, that is absolutely what it's
all about. Tyler erb who was in twenty twenty two, right,
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and then I mean made the just incredibly shocking and
out but that his father had passed away there, I
mean when they got to Saint Louis on Wednesday night,
and I mean that was something that you know, we
had nobody had any idea. He didn't tell anyone. His
mom had Radel Edwards, who was his crew chief, that
they were the only ones that knew that. And so
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you hear Ben and I tearing up on the air
at that. That that emotion, right, And so that emotion,
the electricity, the equalizer. I mean again he is do
you throw all of those in there? And again I
mean the Tyler Carpenters of the world. Will Harrington years ago,
let's not forget. I mean he broke with less than
ten laps left. You know, those are guys that have
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really made a name for themselves. Look at the past
pollsters of this race. The Jason well Shans and Patrick Daniels.
Knew who Patrick Daniel was, and that's no disrespect and
Patrick and I are good friends. And when we talk
about this all the time, most folks didn't know who
Patrick Daniel was outside of a little region in Texas.
Now I don't want to say that household name, but
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more people know him than ever before. Same with Jason Welshin.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Let's say Clinton. I know Clint had when we were
talking on our last podcast, he wanted to know how
it sounded in there, like, you know, does it sound
like your typical racer is, Like the sounds like reverb
off of the dome and like make it louder, you
know what, what's what's all that like?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It's definitely loud. So the first seven years that we
were there, Ben and I were announcing in a in
an open air booth, right, and so I mean by
the end of the week, you're just like I can't
talk for a month, you know, like it's just this,
this incredibly awful feeling. We've actually been inside one of
the suits on in like the fourth level or something
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in the last couple of years, but it's, uh, it is.
It's definitely an incredible sound. I don't know that you
need ear plugs your earphones, but uh, but if you
don't want your wife to think that you've got any
more selective hearing than you already have, I probably bring
him up with it that way.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Let's say, so obviously we have like the big storylines
going into Gateway, you know, you have beachhow going back
to Rocket, you have overten going to the Longhorn House car.
But what what are some of those like storylines we
don't or we aren't seeing as much that you know,
might play a big role come Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You know, I don't know if this is a storyline
in terms it's not a storyline in terms of driver
change or anything like that, but about Tin or English, like,
is this the year that he finally wins it? He's
been runner up twice? He was third there last year,
and you just you feel like that he's really knocking
on the door of getting a win in one of
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these things. You know, is this the year that that
he does that? And again he was second in twenty
twenty one, he was second in twenty two, he was
third last year. So I mean he again, he knows
his way around the race track, right, I think I
think actually he was. I think he's got like four
straight top tens in this race if I'm not mistaken.
So I think that's a storyline. And then, of course
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the other storyline is can someone be a three time winner? Right?
Tyler Carpenter and Bobby Pierce have won the race twice.
We know what kind of season Bobby Pierce has had
this year. I mean he's he's you know, uh, outside
of missing the race that he had to miss or
the races he had to miss for the Outlaws, he
I mean probably would have been the Outlaw champ. Right,
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He's got thirty five wins on the year. He's he's
every year we see someone in dirt late models have
this kind of big, historic season, right, and so he
is he's that guy this year. And so I think
it does make the question can can he get it done?
And then I'll throw another one out there. Actually, I
think kind of flying under the radar a little bit.
(23:49):
Jonathan Davenport back at Gateway this year. Right, You've got
you got some guys that are back and guys that
are there that were not typically a custom you know
custom seeing he is back, Ryan Gustin running and actually
just got word before this Ryan Dustin is going to
be running a super cool wrap this weekend or that
weekend as well, and I can't give away what it
is right now, more of the secrecy on that one,
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but that's going to be super cool to see the
rap that he has. So you get a few guys
either returning or they haven't been there, whatever whatever. I
think that's kind of an under the radar storyline for
for this year's event too.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
It wouldn't happen to be like a grinch tam or
a grint trap. Is I thought I saw a picture
of a grin trap.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I can maybe a teaser.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Firm that it is not a grint trap.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I can confirm that yes, Okay, I can't remember who
I saw, might you know gave the little teaser of
the grin trap but I'm pretty excited to see that one.
But this is kind of one of those off the
wall questions though. We saw, you know, Ricky Thornton Junior
dabble into sprint cars here at Charlotte. So who would
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be a sprint car driver you would like to see?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Take a take? Aw, we're all at the gateway in
a late model.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Oh man, I mean there's so many, right, like you know,
you've you've yeah. I think I think the low hanging
fruit are the guys that have past experience, right, or
that have run some some late model stuff, you know,
like your Parker Price Millers and you can throw a
Logan Logan CD quote unquote open wheel guy, right, I
mean not so much sport done, but open wheel guy.
(25:23):
You know, so someone like that. I think it'd be
super cool. I have always said it hasn't happened yet. Man,
it'd be so cool to get Rico in a in
a dirt late model, right, It's just something something worked
out there. I've never asked Rico this myself. I mean
there were obviously rumors, you know, at one time, like
loon Quist was doing a car specifically for him or whatever.
I don't know if that was just a rumor or
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something that was actually true or not. But I just
I think Rico would be really cool. He is such
a h He's such a positive role model and influencer
for the sport, right and uh and I think we
need more of that in dirt late model racing. So
I think he'd be I think he'd be super cool
as well. And uh again, by the way, some guy
named Kyle Larson then has model experience, you know which
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who is not running really any late model stuff anymore.
So I think I think those were sunshine, you know,
always sold sunshine. It would be super cool to have
him there and and doing that as well.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Could you imagine this is the thought that pops in
my head. Could you imagine how much merch Sheldon Hoddenshield
would sell, would sell if he were to do something
like this.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I mean not just Sheldon, right, I think any of
these guys, you know it's I mean talk about you know,
selling merch. I mean I think any of these guys
come over and you know, just run a dirt late
model for a weekend or or whatever else. I just
I think the marketing opportunities, I think I think the
opportunity would pay for itself through the marketing opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
It might have to open the upper deck because some
of these guys came out.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think I think the lower deck is sold out
for Saturday.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, I'm gonna say I'd seen some posts about tickets, so.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
They were at least getting you know, low at that point.
But that was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So but it's good to see this event, you know,
selling out on Saturday. And I'm sure the vibes are
going to be off the scale, you know, Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday, especially on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, it's you know, from a broadcast standpoint, it can
be you know, Thursday and Friday can wear you down
right and even part of Saturday because you you are,
I mean just being very candid. I mean we're you
know you you. I don't think weed out is the
right word. But but you've got some guys there, and
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a lot of them will be the first to admit
that maybe there's stuff isn't up to stuff. There are
guys that we reach out to for anouncing notes that'll say, yeah,
I happened ralyed since Gateway last year, Gateway two years ago,
and you're like, oh man, you know, and so so
it can be trying at times, but for for every
trying moment, there's two or three big pops and wow
(27:55):
moments that that happened at this event as well, which
you know, again bringing our commversations full circle from the
last few questions, that just it adds to that that
electric atmosphere, right, I think was the adjective that I
threw out earlier. So and when you've got that it again.
A guy that gets into the fence that costs a
ten minute play, it makes it worthwhile when two hours
(28:18):
later you're watching guys come out for driver intros, right
or something.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, you mentioned earlier. You know what this.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Event did for for Tyler Carpenter in that one.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Year and the elevation that it that it offered.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think that that energy, it has this fascinating character
to it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's just it started from year one and it's only
grown since then.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of that electricity that hype it it feels very different.
I don't know that it has anything to do with
it being inside or necessarily who's there.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think it's how the event.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Is built and how it's structured and the things that
keep happening and adding on every year, Like you mentioned
the driver intros, it's it's been fascinating to watch this
thing grow and for the character to really just evolved well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And and that I mean again, if I'm being really
honest with you, guys, you know there's a lot of
that that's by design. Cody Summer, who's the event promoter, guys,
is he is just he is so he is so good.
He's he's he's so boots on the ground right, like
he knows and really pays close attention to what the
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drivers like, but but also equally is important, or even
more important, what the fans like and what the fans want. Right,
So after the first year or two and when those
driver intros just kind of exploded, like he shifted a
lot of focus to that. So I mean, if you
go through after that first year or two, I mean
you see even us on our production side, like we
shifted some of our camera work there, Like we shifted
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a few things how we do it because we knew
that like that was that was a marquee moment in
the event. And then you look like some of the
victory lanes, the pyro in there, right, you know, last
year or two years ago they had the win in
your in races and and those became incredibly popular. And
so Cody's got a Cody's got a really good vision,
I think, and a good supporting past of folks with
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visions that know not just what the drivers want, but
what the fans want and what generates that that pop
and that applause and that electricity and that energy. And
again it's it's it's a fine line you got to
walk because you don't want to upset the apple cart, right,
You don't want to You want to fix something if
it's not broken. But in the same sense, if you
(30:30):
can take what's not broken and and you know, maybe
just polish it up here and clean it up there
a little bit. Those are the little things he's done
to your point, Clint to to kind of quote unquote
add to this event a little bit each year.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
So another thing we we talked about. You get one
hundred and fifty late model drivers, uh, and then you
got to modify it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It looked I think there's sixty is that right?
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah? I think so, yes, A lot a lot of
good ones.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Right, you got, so you got sixty modified. And I'm
gonna be honest here, I think. Bert Kreischer says secret time, right.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I've seen Opaha modifiedes once in my lifetime, and that
was at Bristol.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ever, I've never even seen it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I grew up in this. I grew up in South Georgia.
It was just not something that was available to me,
and then I moved to Ohio where it's all sprint
cars and lay bottles. So I'm excited to see that
it's going to be very different than what I saw
at Bristol.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I mean, man, the modifives are such a who's who, right,
and that's the cool thing, and that's the big difference
between the two. So for the folks that are listening
and hit home to this, late models are an open invitation.
It's not a hand selected We only invite x number
of drivers, right. Late models are an open invitation. We
had nearly one hundred and fifty pre entries this year. Modifives,
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on the other hand, have gotten to where they're hands
selected now, and that changed a few years back in
this event. Now in an effort I mean not specifically
to live the number of entries, but because of parking
and the efficiency of the show, but mostly because of
parking right because of the parking issues that they have
and and everything else, and so so the Modified you
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don't and this is no disrespect to the late Models,
but you know, with that, with it being not an
open invitation and being a hand selected entry of sixty
some guys, you're getting the best of the best, right,
So you were, I mean, you're you're getting the the
Michael Longs of the world, and and you know in
the U n P ranks, you're getting some of the
i m c A stall warts like Tim Ward and
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Tom Berry Junior. You're getting Jordan Grabowski coming up right,
a former i mc A national champion. You're getting you know,
you're you're getting some some more of the ringers I
call like Drake Trautman won this event last year. You know,
Ricky Thornton Junior, you know Jimmy Oh and guys like that. So,
(32:55):
I mean, it's it's talks about a mix of just
incredible talent. It really and true. Is I think one
of the guys to beat in the Modifies this year.
To answer the other part of your question is Michael Long.
Michael Long in the eighteen l is just he's had
a tremendous year. I mean it's it's uh. I'd have
to look at my race pass to see exactly how
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many how many wins that he has in twenty twenty four,
but I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of like thirty.
But he's from Fowler, Illinois. Incredible talent that has just
had a career year this year, and I really and
truly I think this might be the year that he's
able to break through and get himself a Castro Gateway
(33:37):
Dirt Nationals win.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'll say this almost has me excited to watch modifies.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
It listen Modifies at Gateway or like any other class,
any other track on any given nights. There are some
nights where you can look at it and be like,
oh man, just not a great knight for these guys.
More times than not, you got to watch them, like, man,
these guys just put on a freaking show, that's right,
(34:06):
And we've seen that in the years past. Right, you know,
Kyle Bronson is running Modified Pass on the last lab
and in other things as well. So you're getting a
you're getting a restaurant quality field of mond. They're much
like the late Models are split in half, so you'll
get three heats and a B Maine on each prelim night,
which is which is kind of cool and keeps the
program moving as well. And by feature time on Saturday,
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I mean, you've got twenty of the absolute best of
the business going at it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Not to circle back to Fairberry, but I mean the
I think I still have nightmares about a modified B
Maine there in May at Fairbury. But you come to
a PDC, you know that modified feature is pretty darn good.
So I think, you know, I think we all.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Have nightmares about B mains at some point.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, Maine, we all.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Secretly would love to eliminate B mains if possible. We
just haven't quite found a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, but you know, I do have to say even
the four tens, you know, we have those nights where
it just does not get going and no one it
seems like no one can stay on four wheels, or
you know, it happens in every division. I suppose it does,
absolutely it does.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
One thing I'm excited about is the fact that that first.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We can December one thing, we don't have to worry
about his weather. So getting getting there whether maybe a factor,
but once we're there.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We're gonna race, It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I, frankly, I can't wait to get there. I've
waited a long time to make it happen. And bringing
my son with me, I think I'm more excited than
he is. I'm not sure who's going to be the
who's going to be the real eleven year old there?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
But man, that's that's super cool. You guys are coming
out and uh, and I hope it's I hope it's
a good show. But equally or more important, I hope
it's a good experience, right you men. You commented on
the weather, Clinton, and that's I mean the very first
year that we were there, there were guys that were
pulling there their trucks or trailers in the dome to
haul their cars out, and they were covered in snow
(36:05):
and ice, right, and so uh, you fast forward like
two years later and I'm taking a tour the next day,
I'm taking a tour of Bush Stadium and a T shirt.
It was that warm and so but again, to that point,
you don't have to worry about the weather. You're not
to worry if it's snowing or rain and or whatever outside.
But man, it's it's super cool that you guys are
(36:25):
coming out, and again, I hope it's I hope it's
a really good show. That's the big thing, no matter
who is, no matter how long a bemine might take
and whatever else, I hope it's a really good and
memorable show. And I hope that it lives up to
the hype and the expectation. I think that's all anybody
wants with the Gateway.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I'm sure Cody Summer doesn't mind that it's you know,
it's indoors as well. You know, he probably still has
some PTSD from Mansfield, has do I Oh.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
My god, right, I mean, but you break a man's
Oh god, I mean it, you know, I think that
they I think one year, you know, the one year
there like it it rained out every event but won,
and even the one event that it didn't rain out,
like it rained during the day or something, you know.
So yeah, absolutely, And man Cody again, I can't say
(37:10):
enough about him and just hitting a home run with
this event. I'm gonna sound like a driver as well,
but I know a lot of behind the scenes working
on these things and castrole has been just I mean,
i'd be remissed if we didn't thank Castro, right, I
mean for their they're involved in this event. Flow Racing
Night in America. I mean without them, flow Racing Night
in America doesn't happen. And so in a sport where
(37:32):
it's uh, it's very easy for us to hung up
on the negative in things, right, and I'm probably you know,
I'm guilty of that, you know, I think we all are.
I just I want to shine a positive light on
someone like Castro, who's who's come in in a really
big way in the sport in the last few years
and and just made a huge impact in these things.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'll say it certainly takes a village and probably more
or less the city to do some of these things anymore.
But yeah, it seems like, you know, there's a good,
great crew that makes everything go, you know, rather seamlessly.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah. And you know what's really kind of funny about that, too, Jacob,
is that we have we're going to have two big
crews on the road the same weekend because simultaneously going
on down in Florida. Uh, it's Derby at five Flag
this year. So yeah, so we are producing that for
the first time. So we're going to have two A
(38:26):
teams out on the road at the same time on
the same weekend for this and that only happens once
or twice during the year. And I hope that. I
hope both events are are highly highly viewed from the
folks at home, but more important, I hope they're very,
very highly attended by folks that are that are in
the area playing it on being there as well, because look,
(38:47):
we all know this. I think everybody listening knows this
as well. Racing is a sport that it's cool to
watch it on TV. It's a hell of a lot
cooler in there in person, all right, and seeing all
your favorite aastball stars at five Flags, or seeing the
driver intros a gateway or whatever else. Just the experience
of being there pails in comparisons of watching.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
At home on your couch, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
So Clint, you got anything else?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I don't, I uhin we appreciate your time. It's uh, well,
we'll try to not wait one hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Episodes before we get you back on here.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
We will, uh.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
We'll make sure we connect sometime in the off season
or when things start kicking up, maybe in Florida. But
we'll see you in a couple of weeks, and I
hope that we see a lot of our listeners uh
in Saint Louis and excited to.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Be a Gateway for the first time.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I am. I'm happy that you caught me out of
the deer stand for thank you. No, we're we're we're
looking forward to the man, looking forward to seeing you
guys there, and and the fans that we've seen there
for the last several years, and and all the new fans.
I've talk a lot, probably more this year than any other.
I have talked to more new people that are coming on.
I've had people ask me like, man, I've heard I've
(39:58):
heard they sold out a ticket or whatever else. No,
it's not the case. They haven't sold out of tickets.
I don't If you're standing there at the gate with
money handed, you know, wanting to give them, they're not
going to turn you away. So you can still you
can still walk up and get tickets and everything else.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Good deal.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So coming up December fifth, sixth, seventh, Gateway Dirt Nationals
is back in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Come meet all three of us there. We'll be hanging out.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Justin will be working, Jacob and I will be far
less busy than he will.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
But we're excited to be at the event. We're excited
to experience it and destin We appreciate your time, guys.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thank you, I appreciate it and hope everything as well
in your respective neck of the woods. And yeah, let's
let's not make it one hundred and one episodes between
visits next time, for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
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Speaker 4 (41:41):
Sh
Welcome back to the Ohio Dirt Track Podcast. We're excited
to have you back here for episode number.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
One twenty four. I believe my name is.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Clint Knight, I'm Jacob Pardon, and we have Dustin Jared
on the phone.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're excited to have you on. We haven't had you
on since twenty nineteen. I believe it was episode twenty two,
so one hundred and one episodes ago you were on
and we were generally talking about late mil late models
and what you're up to at the time at that point,
and we're excited to hear about what you've had going
on recently, and then we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Some events that are coming up. So howard the going
with you and how the travel has been.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Travels have been good. I'm a little disappointed that it
took one hundred and two episodes for me to come back.
I mean, I don't I got to know, like, of
all the guests you've had on twice, like, is you know,
do they all have like a like a one hundred
episode gap in between their appearances too, or you know,
I mean you guys just putting it to me or
what here?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Clinton, Jacob, I mean, I think I think Greg Wilson
had about one hundred episodes between him, or between you know,
his first and second ones.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So so I'm in good company, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, exactly. Can't can't get much better than Greg Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yes, no, guys, things are things are good here. It's
it's it's been an incredibly busy year. I think that's
that's really cliche to say as well, because everyone's like, oh,
we're so busy. It's a busy here, But it really
has been. I mean, I I'm going to finish the
year with almost one hundred races again attended, and I
mean of those hundred that I attended, over eighty I
(01:59):
will have worked. And so it is at the time
of recording this, it is nice to actually be home
for a few days. My wife and I went out
to dinner last night. She thankfully has not changed the
locks on the doors in the house or hasn't like
trained the dog to rip my leg off when I
walked through the door or anything like that. So we're
(02:20):
so things are good on that end too.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So you're just getting back from Sonoya, right hanging out
at the final Castroal race with our friend John Matthews.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah. Well John Matthews man who who made a post
actually r after the event that that was going to
be his last rates at Snoy.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So what's funny is I mean we did the whole
weekend with him, and we've got to know John fairly
well over the last couple of years, you know, from
just doing those events at Sonoy and everything and uh,
and we built a good relationship. He went the whole
weekend and didn't tell us that was going to be
his last race. Like what hell? Like we could have
thrown you, he said me a text the next day,
(03:01):
And I was like, well, man, like we could have
you know, we could have thrown a party for you
or something. But yeah, man, Sonoy, it was. We had
the best weather we've ever had for that race this year.
Normally we're battling you know, typical Georgia fall weather, right
like temps in the mid fifties and like this light
mist of rain in the air, and and we didn't
(03:22):
have that. Over the weekend. It was. It was highest
right around seventy degrees each day. You couldn't script better weather,
fantastic feel to cars. We had a rough track the
first night it rained on Wednesday, not a ton, it
rained almost an inch, but just that that kind of
grayish clay that they have when it's mixed in, you
(03:43):
get you get it. Even just a little bit of
rain in that that can really penetrate that dirt pretty well.
And that was what happened. But Bubba Pollard and the
guy's Bubba's just an awesome dude. I mean him and
his wife Andrea as fantastic people. His crew. They worked
the track overnight literally after the Life Fast race on Friday,
and then we had we had the stereotypical Sonoi Raceway.
(04:06):
Then on Saturday, Ricky Thornton Junior won both nights and
that ended up catapulting him to his first ever Castro
Flow Racing Night in America Championship.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm saying, you can't complain. You have a championship that
comes down to the last last race, and you know,
drivers swopped the championships, so you can't complain much about that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, And and we've never had a repeat winner in
this little series we've done as well. It was the
fourth year that that we've done it, and it's you
know it, it's something that you know, I don't think
that we had that we talked about the last time
I was on the show because it was pre COVID,
and in this idea really kind of came to fruition
during COVID. You know, Rixby always had this idea of like, man,
(04:46):
I wish we could do some sort of like mid
week series, right, like just a handful of races. There's
just something sexy about midweek racing. And again you think back, really,
I mean, prior to COVID, we didn't really have that
many mid week races in any form of racing. The
World of Outlaws sprint car series, you know, they did some,
but there there really wasn't a ton else. And so
(05:08):
I think it took COVID for us to find out like,
oh yeah, like people will actually go to races in
the middle of the week, and with the help of flow,
like we can actually make this profitable for the tracks
and for the drivers and and you know that you know,
maybe for us as well. And so I mean that's
how that whole idea got started, and it's been I mean,
(05:29):
now we got a waiting list of you know, thirty
race tracks, of races we got we literally we had
drivers coming up to us at Sonnoy this past weekend,
Guys that have not run the you know, our little
mini series before say that your schedule is so awesome,
like I want to run the series next year and
and everything, and that's cool. I mean that just again,
it shows sometimes you think that that you're you're a
(05:52):
little series that could isn't really a lot, right, So
I mean again, we got ten races. You know, one
or two of those can get rained out of times,
but it really goes to show like all the hard work.
You like, people notice like they really do enjoy the series,
watching it, running it and having their home track.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I was saying, it's one of those series.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I've been to a couple of those races and I
tend to watch them just because it's some of these
tracks that don't get those big series all that often obviously,
like places like El Dora does, but you'll also go
to like the Marshall towns, you know, and that's it's
just super cool to see those races held on those
tracks that don't get a lot of the you know,
(06:30):
national tours.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You're exactly right, and and you know, Marshalltown we're really
really hoping to bring back in twenty twenty five. We
couldn't this year. It just there wasn't really a great
place to fit it in the schedule. And it's funny
you bring it up, Jacob, because actually I talked to
their promoter, Jerry Vance, like on the phone earlier today
and we were talking about twenty twenty five, and I
(06:52):
think we've got a date carved out. We just we
got to jump through a few hoops and hopefully we
can get them back on the schedule. But you know,
we did want to force a date with them in
twenty twenty four as well, and that's what it would
have been. We would have been shoving a date in
just to make it work, just to say we were
going to go, and that you know that that's not
usually a win win for either side, Right we got
(07:14):
I seventy five or we had I seventy five on
the schedule this year that didn't come to fruition. That
would have been kind of a new fun track that
that's really kind of stepped a little more into the
spotlight over the last couple of years as well. We're
working on one or two maybe cool things for twenty
twenty five still as well, maybe a new event, you know,
a new track or two that goes on their possibility
(07:35):
of expanding Illinois speed Week from a four day deal
to a five day deal. So we're we're looking at
a lot of different things with that right now. But
I think the I think the Flow Night in America
schedule for twenty five is I expect ten races again,
but I think you're going to see two or three
four little changes on there. I think that that will
really that will really appeal to the fans.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hopefully we can see Marshall time back on that because
it would give me an excuse to go back out there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
You know, my.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Favorite track in the world. I tell everybody that my
favorite racetrack in the entire world was Marshalltown Speedway.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Let's say my wife was actually like born and raised
in Marshalltown, Iowa before moving out to Ohio, and we
went was at twenty twenty two two or twenty twenty three,
we went to Marshalltown. It was the first time she
had been been to Marshalltown since twenty fourteen, and she
had never been to the track before. She could hear
everything from her house, but that was the first time
(08:31):
we had been to Marshalltown and I fell in love
with the place.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So was your wife A was she a Marshalltown Bobcat?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Then she was, well, she was technically homeschooled. But okay, okay, I.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Was gonna say she hadn't been to the track because
she hadn't met you yet.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You mentioned the midweek, you know, the addition of the
series and the midweek and picking up their post COVID.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I think in a lot of these areas the
season seems so short, or maybe through that COVID experience
we realized it was so short that adding that midweek,
those mid week midweek events didn't feel like it was saturated.
You know, we could be there Friday, we could be
their Saturday, but now we could be there Wednesday too.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, that's a good point, Clint. And and that's something
that you know, we've done with an event or two
in the past, right, you know Fairbury this year in
El Dora, both we moved to the same week of
the event. And it's I mean, I'll just be very honest,
that's not something that we would like to make a
habit of. Right, Brownstown got moved to the week of
the event, but it was originally supposed to be earlier.
(09:38):
So it's again it's a fine line because I do
think you are I think you're you're spot on to
an extent when you say that it doesn't oversaturate. But
I do think there are some areas or markets where
it could oversaturate, right, And and so again we try
our very best to be uh as as accommodating to
(09:59):
the dry and the tracks as we can. A Brown
sounds a great example, you know. I mean, we moved
the event because it got rained out on its original
date this year, the eight we moved it was the
original Jackson one hundred league well, which was a great idea,
and we had our race on Wednesday. Then the problem,
of course was there was it was literally a one
hundred percent chance of rain from Thursday night all the
(10:19):
way through Sundays. And so that in itself was I
don't know if problem is the right word, but it
gets to be problematic. You know, you're pulling all those
guys there for this one event, than when that rain's
coming in out And now again we all can't control
the weather. We know that, and but in the same
sense that goes against what we want. We don't want
to pull all those guys just to one track and
(10:41):
out of the way when when something like that happens.
But like I said, we can't predict the weather. But
I appreciate the mention there, Clinton, And that's again, I
don't think you're going to see anything more aggressive with
that in twenty twenty five. As a matter of fact,
we've actually backed off one of those. But again, I
think that you can certainly anticipate that Fairbury date coming back,
(11:03):
and and certainly an El Dora date back on its
original schedule of Dream Week.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Also, yeah, I think there's definitely Yeah, you went out,
this was this your first at Fairbury?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, I went out. I ended up going out twice
this year.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Rigsby got me out there for the May Lucas Oiler
Race and then watching Devin Moran and his qualifying lap
there made me feel things inside that I haven't felt
in a long time, and that got me back there
for the PDC on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's uh, you know, I don't know, like we catch
some grief about Fairbury, right, you guys are Fairbury home
or number one? I lived seven hours from that's white accurate, right,
Like I got to pass by a lot of restracts
get from my house to Fairbury. But but I will
say this that everybody at Fairbury, you know, treats you
(11:58):
like you are one of their own. You know, They've
done that for years. I mean shit, I got guys,
I got people to walk by me at Fairbury and
other tracks as well, but Fairberry especially to say hi
to me, and you know, my wife like who's that
and I'm like, I don't know, you know, and that
I mean, this happens multiple times a day. And it's
because look, the hype video they did for the PDC
was spot on. The people at Fairberry loved their track.
(12:20):
They love their town, they love their area, and they
want you to love those things as much as they
love those things. And so that's why when you come there,
I mean, they're gonna take you out, they're gonna roll
out the red carpet, they're gonna save you seats, they're
gonna you know, they want you to love this thing
as much as they love this thing.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It also helps, by the way, the racing is really
freaking good. Yeah. I was just gonna say, you know,
and the PDC was probably my race of the year.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I oh, listen, I'll tell you this as well, all right,
and I probably shouldn't tell you this, but we just
did our voting. So as you know, there's a group
of us that vote for Race of the Year on
dirt on dirt, and the PDC was my vote. That
was my vote for the Race of the Year this year.
I'll tell you that right here live on the air.
So so if it doesn't gam, it doesn't get it
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that that was where my vote went. I think there's
three or four really really good candidates this year, but
that was where my vote went.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I was saying, I was sitting right behind some big
Bobby Pierce fans in that and it was it was
a sight to behold.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was, you know, we were me and Riggsby and
Ben were there together and and Dylan Scott was there right,
country music singer. Dylan's guy who's partnered with us on
the Castro Flow Night in America stuff, and he was
just blowing away, like sitting there talking to him and
and you know, knowing he's already a big late Model fan,
but then I mean also seeing you know, seeing his
(13:48):
reaction and seeing like just seeing his face and and
you know how much he enjoyed it and stuff. Again
that was that was the cool thing for me too, right,
It's like, man, like this dude is really into this
and like again that's those are the kind of things
that you that you lived for with this stuff, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Really is something I'm noticing interesting here. I mean, Jacob
and I've been doing this five.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Or six years now, and uh, Jacob jere.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
This is going.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Very self proclaimed sprint car stop is slowly becoming a
late model fan and the and Fairbury probably put a
boat on that.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's all part of our evil plan to converse one
and so we're very very slowly. He let's not forget
as well the very first time that Wing four tens
went to Fairberry a few years back at Robert also,
So I mean, you know, listen, that's I mean, maybe
that has something to do with it too. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh man, I'm telling you guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Appreciate that, thank you, and and that's you know, I
can't take a ton of credit. I mean we it's
it's no secret to a lot of folks. Rigsby and
Ben Shelton and I we have a group text. We
literally talk every single day, and uh, you know, Ben
is a general manager, is just tremended with that series,
riggs me with his vision even though he's not at
the event. I mean, his vision carries out a lot
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of things. And I mean those two guys honestly deserve
as much credit as anyone.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So but we're getting close to for as of tonight's recording,
we're two weeks away from Gateway Dirt Nationals, So enjoy
these next two weeks. So I don't know, is this
technically the off season or is the off season between
Gateway and Vado.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
No, you know, I always I always joke, Jacob, I
always joke and tell people my off season is like
after speed Weeks because I got like this break for
about six weeks from speed Weeks until usually the first
event that I do in you know, late March or
early April. So that's the that's the closest thing I
get to an off season ideas. But yeah, Gateway, man,
(15:51):
what Gottley? I can't believe it's here again already, the
ninth one. I mean we got you know, of course
we get we got COVID it out in twenty twenty,
But just like a rain, now, you still I mean,
it's you still consider this the ninth annual running of
the eVision, Right, It's it's crazy to think. I mean again,
I I remember when Cody Summer first told me about this.
(16:11):
Uh again, I mean we're talking a year in advance, right,
and I'm like getting indoor dirt late model race.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
They've tried that, that ain't gonna work, you know, And
here we are, I mean, nine years later, and it's
probably the hottest ticket in uh not just dir late
model racing outside the Chili Bowl Knoxville Nationals.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Right, I mean, as you know, the world wonder the
hottest ticket in racing.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think Clinton and I are both you know, first
timers going to Gateway. So how would you describe Gateway
to someone who's never been there before?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Electric? I mean, that's the best way to put it, right.
It's it's the atmosphere is incredible, the the when they
do so there's we have such a build up to
the main event for this show, right, and it's Look,
this is one of these deals where like you can
see really good racing in the heats and prelimbs and stuff. Look,
(17:10):
if we're being really truthful with a lot of events nowadays, uncurf.
It's late models or sprints or big blocks or whatever.
A lot of times you see heats that are and
then a feature that can be above average, right or
the opposite. If the heats are really good, A lot
of times the feature could be lackluster. You don't have
that at Gateway. I mean you've got just got total
NonStop action the entire time that you're there. The you're
(17:34):
watching dirt late models and dirt modified indoors on a
full one fifth mile racetrack, and it's it's it is
truly an electric atmosphere in an electric environment, because I
mean you don't know if one lap someone is going
to make a last lap pass, if someone's gonna rip
down part of the fence, who's going to do what?
(17:57):
During driver intros and then and then on top of it,
I mean got a line that I used the second
year that we were there where I said that, I mean,
Gateway is the great equalizer, right. You don't have to
have a sixty thousand dollars haul motor and a brand
new sixty thousand dollars chassis to go out there and race.
You've got guys that are running race cars that are
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five six seven plus years old. You got guys running
small or crate motors as well, and so I think
that's that's part of the lore from the driver's side,
but especially from the fans side. Outside of the fact
that it's dirt, late models indoors in December and all
of that, fans show up there knowing that that their
favorite local or regional driver, honest to goodness, has just
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as good of a chance to win as the national
touring stars do. And that's something that again just quite candidly,
we can't really say a lot of places anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And we've seen that with you know, Tyler Carpenter and
that was what twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one when
it was back to back and I mean that, you know,
his interviews after he won. I mean those are the
two biggest ones of his career and you know it,
I probably you know, changed his life, really.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah it. You know a lot of people will give,
you know, circling back on that, a lot of people
will give Tyler a hard time, right you know, Ah,
you know we've heard the same story West Virginia and
grew up from nothing and whatever else. But but I
think what a lot of people sleep on is is
that emotion in his voice is one million percent real,
whether you believe the other stuff or not. And I do.
(19:29):
I've known, I've known Tyler and his family literally my
I mean my entire life.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I grew up watching Freddie Race. I grew up seeing
Freddie Carpenter in the early two thousands open up the
door to his pickup truck and all and Tyler and
all the neighborhood kids running out of the truck. So
the story tells, I see that happen, right, But that
emotion in Tyler's voice, man, that is absolutely what it's
all about. Tyler erb who was in twenty twenty two, right,
(19:55):
and then I mean made the just incredibly shocking and
out but that his father had passed away there, I
mean when they got to Saint Louis on Wednesday night,
and I mean that was something that you know, we
had nobody had any idea. He didn't tell anyone. His
mom had Radel Edwards, who was his crew chief, that
they were the only ones that knew that. And so
(20:15):
you hear Ben and I tearing up on the air
at that. That that emotion, right, And so that emotion,
the electricity, the equalizer. I mean again he is do
you throw all of those in there? And again I
mean the Tyler Carpenters of the world. Will Harrington years ago,
let's not forget. I mean he broke with less than
ten laps left. You know, those are guys that have
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really made a name for themselves. Look at the past
pollsters of this race. The Jason well Shans and Patrick Daniels.
Knew who Patrick Daniel was, and that's no disrespect and
Patrick and I are good friends. And when we talk
about this all the time, most folks didn't know who
Patrick Daniel was outside of a little region in Texas.
Now I don't want to say that household name, but
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more people know him than ever before. Same with Jason Welshin.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Let's say Clinton. I know Clint had when we were
talking on our last podcast, he wanted to know how
it sounded in there, like, you know, does it sound
like your typical racer is, Like the sounds like reverb
off of the dome and like make it louder, you
know what, what's what's all that like?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It's definitely loud. So the first seven years that we
were there, Ben and I were announcing in a in
an open air booth, right, and so I mean by
the end of the week, you're just like I can't
talk for a month, you know, like it's just this,
this incredibly awful feeling. We've actually been inside one of
the suits on in like the fourth level or something
(21:41):
in the last couple of years, but it's, uh, it is.
It's definitely an incredible sound. I don't know that you
need ear plugs your earphones, but uh, but if you
don't want your wife to think that you've got any
more selective hearing than you already have, I probably bring
him up with it that way.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Let's say, so obviously we have like the big storylines
going into Gateway, you know, you have beachhow going back
to Rocket, you have overten going to the Longhorn House car.
But what what are some of those like storylines we
don't or we aren't seeing as much that you know,
might play a big role come Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You know, I don't know if this is a storyline
in terms it's not a storyline in terms of driver
change or anything like that, but about Tin or English, like,
is this the year that he finally wins it? He's
been runner up twice? He was third there last year,
and you just you feel like that he's really knocking
on the door of getting a win in one of
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these things. You know, is this the year that that
he does that? And again he was second in twenty
twenty one, he was second in twenty two, he was
third last year. So I mean he again, he knows
his way around the race track, right, I think I
think actually he was. I think he's got like four
straight top tens in this race if I'm not mistaken.
So I think that's a storyline. And then, of course
(23:07):
the other storyline is can someone be a three time winner? Right?
Tyler Carpenter and Bobby Pierce have won the race twice.
We know what kind of season Bobby Pierce has had
this year. I mean he's he's you know, uh, outside
of missing the race that he had to miss or
the races he had to miss for the Outlaws, he
I mean probably would have been the Outlaw champ. Right,
(23:29):
He's got thirty five wins on the year. He's he's
every year we see someone in dirt late models have
this kind of big, historic season, right, and so he
is he's that guy this year. And so I think
it does make the question can can he get it done?
And then I'll throw another one out there. Actually, I
think kind of flying under the radar a little bit.
(23:49):
Jonathan Davenport back at Gateway this year. Right, You've got
you got some guys that are back and guys that
are there that were not typically a custom you know
custom seeing he is back, Ryan Gustin running and actually
just got word before this Ryan Dustin is going to
be running a super cool wrap this weekend or that
weekend as well, and I can't give away what it
is right now, more of the secrecy on that one,
(24:11):
but that's going to be super cool to see the
rap that he has. So you get a few guys
either returning or they haven't been there, whatever whatever. I
think that's kind of an under the radar storyline for
for this year's event too.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
It wouldn't happen to be like a grinch tam or
a grint trap. Is I thought I saw a picture
of a grin trap.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I can maybe a teaser.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Firm that it is not a grint trap.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I can confirm that yes, Okay, I can't remember who
I saw, might you know gave the little teaser of
the grin trap but I'm pretty excited to see that one.
But this is kind of one of those off the
wall questions though. We saw, you know, Ricky Thornton Junior
dabble into sprint cars here at Charlotte. So who would
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be a sprint car driver you would like to see?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Take a take? Aw, we're all at the gateway in
a late model.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Oh man, I mean there's so many, right, like you know,
you've you've yeah. I think I think the low hanging
fruit are the guys that have past experience, right, or
that have run some some late model stuff, you know,
like your Parker Price Millers and you can throw a
Logan Logan CD quote unquote open wheel guy, right, I
mean not so much sport done, but open wheel guy.
(25:23):
You know, so someone like that. I think it'd be
super cool. I have always said it hasn't happened yet. Man,
it'd be so cool to get Rico in a in
a dirt late model, right, It's just something something worked
out there. I've never asked Rico this myself. I mean
there were obviously rumors, you know, at one time, like
loon Quist was doing a car specifically for him or whatever.
I don't know if that was just a rumor or
(25:45):
something that was actually true or not. But I just
I think Rico would be really cool. He is such
a h He's such a positive role model and influencer
for the sport, right and uh and I think we
need more of that in dirt late model racing. So
I think he'd be I think he'd be super cool
as well. And uh again, by the way, some guy
named Kyle Larson then has model experience, you know which
(26:06):
who is not running really any late model stuff anymore.
So I think I think those were sunshine, you know,
always sold sunshine. It would be super cool to have
him there and and doing that as well.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Could you imagine this is the thought that pops in
my head. Could you imagine how much merch Sheldon Hoddenshield
would sell, would sell if he were to do something
like this.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I mean not just Sheldon, right, I think any of
these guys, you know it's I mean talk about you know,
selling merch. I mean I think any of these guys
come over and you know, just run a dirt late
model for a weekend or or whatever else. I just
I think the marketing opportunities, I think I think the
opportunity would pay for itself through the marketing opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
It might have to open the upper deck because some
of these guys came out.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think I think the lower deck is sold out
for Saturday.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, I'm gonna say I'd seen some posts about tickets, so.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
They were at least getting you know, low at that point.
But that was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So but it's good to see this event, you know,
selling out on Saturday. And I'm sure the vibes are
going to be off the scale, you know, Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday, especially on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, it's you know, from a broadcast standpoint, it can
be you know, Thursday and Friday can wear you down
right and even part of Saturday because you you are,
I mean just being very candid. I mean we're you
know you you. I don't think weed out is the
right word. But but you've got some guys there, and
(27:34):
a lot of them will be the first to admit
that maybe there's stuff isn't up to stuff. There are
guys that we reach out to for anouncing notes that'll say, yeah,
I happened ralyed since Gateway last year, Gateway two years ago,
and you're like, oh man, you know, and so so
it can be trying at times, but for for every
trying moment, there's two or three big pops and wow
(27:55):
moments that that happened at this event as well, which
you know, again bringing our commversations full circle from the
last few questions, that just it adds to that that
electric atmosphere, right, I think was the adjective that I
threw out earlier. So and when you've got that it again.
A guy that gets into the fence that costs a
ten minute play, it makes it worthwhile when two hours
(28:18):
later you're watching guys come out for driver intros, right
or something.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, you mentioned earlier. You know what this.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Event did for for Tyler Carpenter in that one.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Year and the elevation that it that it offered.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think that that energy, it has this fascinating character
to it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's just it started from year one and it's only
grown since then.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Of that electricity that hype it it feels very different.
I don't know that it has anything to do with
it being inside or necessarily who's there.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think it's how the event.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Is built and how it's structured and the things that
keep happening and adding on every year, Like you mentioned
the driver intros, it's it's been fascinating to watch this
thing grow and for the character to really just evolved well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And and that I mean again, if I'm being really
honest with you, guys, you know there's a lot of
that that's by design. Cody Summer, who's the event promoter, guys,
is he is just he is so he is so good.
He's he's he's so boots on the ground right, like
he knows and really pays close attention to what the
(29:27):
drivers like, but but also equally is important, or even
more important, what the fans like and what the fans want. Right,
So after the first year or two and when those
driver intros just kind of exploded, like he shifted a
lot of focus to that. So I mean, if you
go through after that first year or two, I mean
you see even us on our production side, like we
shifted some of our camera work there, Like we shifted
(29:48):
a few things how we do it because we knew
that like that was that was a marquee moment in
the event. And then you look like some of the
victory lanes, the pyro in there, right, you know, last
year or two years ago they had the win in
your in races and and those became incredibly popular. And
so Cody's got a Cody's got a really good vision,
I think, and a good supporting past of folks with
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visions that know not just what the drivers want, but
what the fans want and what generates that that pop
and that applause and that electricity and that energy. And
again it's it's it's a fine line you got to
walk because you don't want to upset the apple cart, right,
You don't want to You want to fix something if
it's not broken. But in the same sense, if you
(30:30):
can take what's not broken and and you know, maybe
just polish it up here and clean it up there
a little bit. Those are the little things he's done
to your point, Clint to to kind of quote unquote
add to this event a little bit each year.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
So another thing we we talked about. You get one
hundred and fifty late model drivers, uh, and then you
got to modify it.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
It looked I think there's sixty is that right?
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Yeah? I think so, yes, A lot a lot of
good ones.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Right, you got, so you got sixty modified. And I'm
gonna be honest here, I think. Bert Kreischer says secret time, right.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I've seen Opaha modifiedes once in my lifetime, and that
was at Bristol.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ever, I've never even seen it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I grew up in this. I grew up in South Georgia.
It was just not something that was available to me,
and then I moved to Ohio where it's all sprint
cars and lay bottles. So I'm excited to see that
it's going to be very different than what I saw
at Bristol.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I mean, man, the modifives are such a who's who, right,
and that's the cool thing, and that's the big difference
between the two. So for the folks that are listening
and hit home to this, late models are an open invitation.
It's not a hand selected We only invite x number
of drivers, right. Late models are an open invitation. We
had nearly one hundred and fifty pre entries this year. Modifives,
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on the other hand, have gotten to where they're hands
selected now, and that changed a few years back in
this event. Now in an effort I mean not specifically
to live the number of entries, but because of parking
and the efficiency of the show, but mostly because of
parking right because of the parking issues that they have
and and everything else, and so so the Modified you
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don't and this is no disrespect to the late Models,
but you know, with that, with it being not an
open invitation and being a hand selected entry of sixty
some guys, you're getting the best of the best, right,
So you were, I mean, you're you're getting the the
Michael Longs of the world, and and you know in
the U n P ranks, you're getting some of the
i m c A stall warts like Tim Ward and
(32:34):
Tom Berry Junior. You're getting Jordan Grabowski coming up right,
a former i mc A national champion. You're getting you know,
you're you're getting some some more of the ringers I
call like Drake Trautman won this event last year. You know,
Ricky Thornton Junior, you know Jimmy Oh and guys like that. So,
(32:55):
I mean, it's it's talks about a mix of just
incredible talent. It really and true. Is I think one
of the guys to beat in the Modifies this year.
To answer the other part of your question is Michael Long.
Michael Long in the eighteen l is just he's had
a tremendous year. I mean it's it's uh. I'd have
to look at my race pass to see exactly how
(33:15):
many how many wins that he has in twenty twenty four,
but I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of like thirty.
But he's from Fowler, Illinois. Incredible talent that has just
had a career year this year, and I really and
truly I think this might be the year that he's
able to break through and get himself a Castro Gateway
(33:37):
Dirt Nationals win.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'll say this almost has me excited to watch modifies.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
It listen Modifies at Gateway or like any other class,
any other track on any given nights. There are some
nights where you can look at it and be like,
oh man, just not a great knight for these guys.
More times than not, you got to watch them, like, man,
these guys just put on a freaking show, that's right,
(34:06):
And we've seen that in the years past. Right, you know,
Kyle Bronson is running Modified Pass on the last lab
and in other things as well. So you're getting a
you're getting a restaurant quality field of mond. They're much
like the late Models are split in half, so you'll
get three heats and a B Maine on each prelim night,
which is which is kind of cool and keeps the
program moving as well. And by feature time on Saturday,
(34:29):
I mean, you've got twenty of the absolute best of
the business going at it.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Not to circle back to Fairberry, but I mean the
I think I still have nightmares about a modified B
Maine there in May at Fairbury. But you come to
a PDC, you know that modified feature is pretty darn good.
So I think, you know, I think we all.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Have nightmares about B mains at some point.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Yeah, Maine, we all.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Secretly would love to eliminate B mains if possible. We
just haven't quite found a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, but you know, I do have to say even
the four tens, you know, we have those nights where
it just does not get going and no one it
seems like no one can stay on four wheels, or
you know, it happens in every division. I suppose it does,
absolutely it does.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
One thing I'm excited about is the fact that that first.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We can December one thing, we don't have to worry
about his weather. So getting getting there whether maybe a factor,
but once we're there.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We're gonna race, It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
And I, frankly, I can't wait to get there. I've
waited a long time to make it happen. And bringing
my son with me, I think I'm more excited than
he is. I'm not sure who's going to be the
who's going to be the real eleven year old there?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
But man, that's that's super cool. You guys are coming
out and uh, and I hope it's I hope it's
a good show. But equally or more important, I hope
it's a good experience, right you men. You commented on
the weather, Clinton, and that's I mean the very first
year that we were there, there were guys that were
pulling there their trucks or trailers in the dome to
haul their cars out, and they were covered in snow
(36:05):
and ice, right, and so uh, you fast forward like
two years later and I'm taking a tour the next day,
I'm taking a tour of Bush Stadium and a T shirt.
It was that warm and so but again, to that point,
you don't have to worry about the weather. You're not
to worry if it's snowing or rain and or whatever outside.
But man, it's it's super cool that you guys are
(36:25):
coming out, and again, I hope it's I hope it's
a really good show. That's the big thing, no matter
who is, no matter how long a bemine might take
and whatever else, I hope it's a really good and
memorable show. And I hope that it lives up to
the hype and the expectation. I think that's all anybody
wants with the Gateway.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I'm sure Cody Summer doesn't mind that it's you know,
it's indoors as well. You know, he probably still has
some PTSD from Mansfield, has do I Oh.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
My god, right, I mean, but you break a man's
Oh god, I mean it, you know, I think that
they I think one year, you know, the one year
there like it it rained out every event but won,
and even the one event that it didn't rain out,
like it rained during the day or something, you know.
So yeah, absolutely, And man Cody again, I can't say
(37:10):
enough about him and just hitting a home run with
this event. I'm gonna sound like a driver as well,
but I know a lot of behind the scenes working
on these things and castrole has been just I mean,
i'd be remissed if we didn't thank Castro, right, I
mean for their they're involved in this event. Flow Racing
Night in America. I mean without them, flow Racing Night
in America doesn't happen. And so in a sport where
(37:32):
it's uh, it's very easy for us to hung up
on the negative in things, right, and I'm probably you know,
I'm guilty of that, you know, I think we all are.
I just I want to shine a positive light on
someone like Castro, who's who's come in in a really
big way in the sport in the last few years
and and just made a huge impact in these things.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'll say it certainly takes a village and probably more
or less the city to do some of these things anymore.
But yeah, it seems like, you know, there's a good,
great crew that makes everything go, you know, rather seamlessly.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah. And you know what's really kind of funny about that, too, Jacob,
is that we have we're going to have two big
crews on the road the same weekend because simultaneously going
on down in Florida. Uh, it's Derby at five Flag
this year. So yeah, so we are producing that for
the first time. So we're going to have two A
(38:26):
teams out on the road at the same time on
the same weekend for this and that only happens once
or twice during the year. And I hope that. I
hope both events are are highly highly viewed from the
folks at home, but more important, I hope they're very,
very highly attended by folks that are that are in
the area playing it on being there as well, because look,
(38:47):
we all know this. I think everybody listening knows this
as well. Racing is a sport that it's cool to
watch it on TV. It's a hell of a lot
cooler in there in person, all right, and seeing all
your favorite aastball stars at five Flags, or seeing the
driver intros a gateway or whatever else. Just the experience
of being there pails in comparisons of watching.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
At home on your couch, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
So Clint, you got anything else?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I don't, I uhin we appreciate your time. It's uh, well,
we'll try to not wait one hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Episodes before we get you back on here.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
We will, uh.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
We'll make sure we connect sometime in the off season
or when things start kicking up, maybe in Florida. But
we'll see you in a couple of weeks, and I
hope that we see a lot of our listeners uh
in Saint Louis and excited to.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Be a Gateway for the first time.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I am. I'm happy that you caught me out of
the deer stand for thank you. No, we're we're we're
looking forward to the man, looking forward to seeing you
guys there, and and the fans that we've seen there
for the last several years, and and all the new fans.
I've talk a lot, probably more this year than any other.
I have talked to more new people that are coming on.
I've had people ask me like, man, I've heard I've
(39:58):
heard they sold out a ticket or whatever else. No,
it's not the case. They haven't sold out of tickets.
I don't If you're standing there at the gate with
money handed, you know, wanting to give them, they're not
going to turn you away. So you can still you
can still walk up and get tickets and everything else.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Good deal.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So coming up December fifth, sixth, seventh, Gateway Dirt Nationals
is back in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Come meet all three of us there. We'll be hanging out.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Justin will be working, Jacob and I will be far
less busy than he will.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
But we're excited to be at the event. We're excited
to experience it and destin We appreciate your time, guys.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thank you, I appreciate it and hope everything as well
in your respective neck of the woods. And yeah, let's
let's not make it one hundred and one episodes between
visits next time, for sure.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Thank you guys for listen.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Make sure you're following on our social media's and share
these with your friends so they can listen to the
Ohio Dirt Check podcast Until next time.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Get out, Get Dirty, support your local.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Tracks, back aboard bok, the b BO, Google back bar,
book
Speaker 4 (41:41):
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