1048 - The Wind And The Flame (CBS)

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
A journey into the realm of the strange and get
a bid.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I hope you will enjoy the chap.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
That it will till you a little and kill you
a little.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
So settle back, get a good grip on your nerve.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Where are we going?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You'll find out when we get there. CBS Radio Mystery
Theater Presents, come in. Welcome. I'm a E. T. Marshall.

(00:57):
If your candle is burning, a gust of wind will
blow it out. If your house is burning, a gust
of wind will make the flame hotter and brighter, the
wind and the flame. Can it be said they seem
to have a kind of love hate relationship? Or should
it be said that we simply cannot predict the actions

(01:18):
of the elemental forces of nature? In which case, what
can we say about ourselves? Isn't each living creature a
collection of those very same mysterious and baffling forces. Telephone
for you, sir, I don't want to talk to anyone now, gentlemen,
says it's urgent to tell him the callback later. I'll
do that, sir, Oh, who is it?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
By the way, And mister Wesley Chardine, who mister Wesley Chardine, Well,
it's impossible.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wesley's been dead six months, but here he.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Is on the phone, sir, do you want to talk
to him?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Our mystery drama The Wind and the Flame was written
especially for the Mystery Theater by Sam Dayer and stars
Celeste Holme. Conscience, said Sigmund Freud, is the perception of.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The rejection of a particular.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Wish operating within us. And I take his word for
it on faith. However, I much prefer the definition by
Robert Lewis Stephenson, who revealed the heart of the matter
when he said, conscience is the one thing I cannot bear. Well,
as you can see, this is going to be a

(02:50):
story about conscience. And the best place to begin a
story is at the beginning. That's a rule, and rules
were meant to be broken. He'll begin ours neither at
the beginning nor the end, but somewhere in between. Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Is this the residence of mister Arthur Randolph Hale. Oh
you're mister Hale. I recognize you.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
What is it you want.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
From your pictures? They've been in the paper.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, I have a letter for you.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Oh please come in.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Won't you have a seat? Missus?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's miss Unfortunately, I have never known whether bliss. Although
to tell the truth, when one looks around, one is
hard put to believe that marriage is really vitial. What
do you think, mister Hale.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I think that I should like to see that letter?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Of course, of course here it is from missus Williger Penelope.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, mister Gerald, Williger's wife, I should say, his wid
thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Oh, I see you're having trouble reading it. As you know,
her handwrites.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
A woman does it deliberately.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It was always her affectation to have an illegible script.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Well, you can try to squint and probe your way
through it, but I can say it's the trouble. I
know what's written there. You do, yes, mister Henry. It's
a reference, a reference, a reference, and a recommendation for
what for employment?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But for whom? For me, what sort of employment? Don't
tell me that you're a mining engineer, no, sir, a geologist,
a draftsman, a surveyor, a metallurgistan none of those.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well what are you a housekeeper?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
And I might add a very good pot.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't want a housekeeper, that may be, but you
need one who says so missus William and in her letter,
I know it by heart.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'll tell you what it did.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
This is a sealed envelope addressed to me. How would
you know what's in it?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I made it my business to find out. After all
this about me were all the she writes, Dear Arthur,
now that world is gone, I have decided to close
the house and travel abroad for a year. This leaves
my very valuable and trusted housekeeper, Miss Sabina Calledwell at Liberty, Arthur.
I know how you always felt about me. Now that

(05:15):
I'm alone, I keep thinking more and more about your proposal. However,
you have lived by yourself too long. You have developed
slopful habits in that large, neglected house of yours, and
so I send you Miss Calwell in the hope that
she can civilize you. She will see that you eat
regular meals, keep your place in order, and altogether tame

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you and make you fit for human society. I think
I love you, Penelope, she wrote. Then I'm prepared to
start immediately, mister Hale. My trunk is just.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Outside until I wait a minute. I haven't said that
you can.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
As soon as the trunk can be brought into my room.
I should like to inspect the kitchen, but you just
can't walk in here. Well, you knew how she would
sit and talk to me for hours and hours on end,
And she would talk about you, me with a sigh
in her voice and a twinkle in her eye. Yes,
she would say, I chose Gerald, Sir Williger. I was young,

(06:09):
I was foolish. If only I had to do it
over again, there was a young engineer, Arthur Randolph Hale.
What a fine impressive name, and what a fine impressive man.
He's become a man of action adventure. I'll pick that up.
Hold on, No gentleman ever answers his own telephone. Oh

(06:29):
excuse me, sir, are you in or out?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Am I?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Do you wish or do you not wish to speak
with anyone at this time?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You mean that Penelope would actually talk about me?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yes, and great length and considerable death.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Will you get rid of that telephone?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Please? That's her with my original.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Suggestion, I don't care who it is telling that. I'm
out to call back later.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yes, sir, mister Hale's residence. Who is calling me? Oh,
I'm sorry, sir, but mister Hale is out at the moment.
Do you want him to return your call? I see
you can be reached. Yes, sir, I'll say that you
will call him back. Thank you, sir, goodbye. It was

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a mister Karadine.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Will you not tell me what Penelope T. Williger said
about me?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh, it's not what she said so much as the
way she said it. Hold on, it's a matter of
your way.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Who I mean?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Who was on the phone just now, mister Kardine?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Karody Karothy?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yes, sir, that was the gentleman's name.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is it possible?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I'm afraid I don't understand you.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You're sure that he said, Karady?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Certain? Did he happen to mention his first name?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Mister Hale? Are you feeling all right?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Answer me?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yes? Yes he did? Wesley Wesley? He said, hello, this
is Wesley Carodine. Is a R there?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
He asked for a R?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
That is you? Isn't this Arthur Randolph Hale?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
The man's voice was a young, old, middle aged.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, you know how difficult it is to tell those
things over the telep We'll try.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
How old a man would you say that he was?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Or not very old?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
What do you mean? Why?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Not very old? So?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't think you should excite yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
How old a man was it?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, I would say he was about thirty thirty.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I see you're sure thirty.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, as far as one can never be sure of
these things. Now, I think you had better sit down
and try to como.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
But how would you describe his voice?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I would say it was in the middle range, but
on the lowish, throaty side.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Did he have an accent?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
An accent? No, it sounded American enough.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Was there anything above it?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wait? Did have an accent?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
What kind?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, I'm not sure it would really be called an accent.
It was more of a little a lit sort of
a Southern rhythm, very musical.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It can't be tuitive, It cannot be true.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
What can't be true.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It can't be Wesley Carroty. Why because because Wesley Carrodine
is dead. Well, if that's true, of course it's true.
He's dead.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It was in the papers, It was in all the papers.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Well, sometimes the press, and I don't say they do
this deliberately, but there are times when they do it dangerous.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
He's dead. There couldn't be any doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
He was murdered.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well, then it must be another Wesley Karadine.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Are you saying that there were two of them, two
men named Wesley Karadine.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
It's possible too.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Wesley Carrodines, both thirty years of age, both with soft
Southern accents. Of both who would know me and call
me ar your.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Positive Wesley Caroadin is dead.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, I was the one who identified the body.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh what a terrible moment that must have been for you.
But why were you the one to do that?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Well? Because he worked for me?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I see.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Didn't he have a family, Yes, he had folks living
on the East coast somewhere, he wasn't close with them.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Mister Hale, I begin to be troubled by the tone
in your voice. I begin to hear the sound of hysteria.
You must get hold of yourself.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
It was Wesley Carodine.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It was Wesley.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
It couldn't be if Wesley is dead. But there are
no But we live in a world of uncertainty and doubt.
What we believe in may turn out to be matched
stake temples, bills on quicksand But of this we can
be sure. The dead do not telephone the living.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
But how can I be sure he is dead?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Will you excuse me for just a little file, Sir, where.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Are you going?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Don't leave me alone here, But don't answer it now, sir.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You are reacting in a mostly immature manner. Mister Hale's residence.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I beg you upon.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm sorry, sir, you have a wrong number?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Who is that?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You heard me? A wrong number?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
You are lying?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm not used to being called a liar.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
He just called back now, mister hag He was on
the phone again. Wesley Carodine was on the phone again.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Please sit down, mister Hale, please and listen. A man
has just called you twice within the past few minutes. Ah,
you admitted a man who says his name is Wesley Carrody.
Did you hear that? A man who says his name
is Wesley Carridy?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Why should anyone lie about some.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
One with a very unhealthy sense of humor and a
wretched taste in practical jokes?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Now?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Who would want to play a trick like that on you?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
It is a trick, a bad joke, and you must
put it from your mind. But what mister Wesley Carrodine
is dead, isn't he? Yes? But I said, there's nothing
more to be said now I understand the telephone company
has a number, a special number to call if you
require help in preventing harassing phone calls. Why don't you
tender that while I look in the kitchen and see

(11:44):
about dinner.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
What's that? Well?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I would assume it was the don't answer it?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Why not? Who do you expect it to be? Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes? Who's there?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
That son?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Who is it?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
There's no one here?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Do you know what must have happened? Some child must
have just play the prank, rang the bell, run away?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Look on the step.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Oh, it's a small box.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Don't pick it up?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Those Why not?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
How you know what it is?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's your name is on it. Look mister A. R.
Hal seventeen thirty seventy fifty fourth.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh, there's something wrong, very wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's Caldwell.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
You'll catch your death standing out here in this coal.
Let's take this inside? Shall you open it? Oh? All right,
I'll do the honest. I wonder what it could be? Oh,
oh my goodness. It's a revolver and there's a garden clothes.
It's addressed to you. Why don't you read it?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
What does it say?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Let me see? Use it? Well? Well, now that's an
odd thing to say about a revolver. Use it well.
Must be something written on the other side too, What
does that say?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
One?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's all you need Wesley?

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Oh, resy, you have to.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Say one thing for brother Wesley. He gets around. What
makes Wesley all the more remarkable is the fact that
his home base is the grave. There will be a
widening of Wesley's theater of operation when I returned shortly
with that too. You can't be in two places at

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the same time, especially if one of them happens to
be the grave. However, someone named Wesley Caradine seems to
be extremely active, even though he is no longer alive.
Wait a minute, some of you may be saying, has
it been definitely established that Wesley is dead? Take care

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of that in short order?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Is that a real revolver? Wait, don't touch it fingerprints,
mister Hale. Some vicious persons out to destroy you.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Use it well. One is all you need, Wesley.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
But where are you going, mister Hale?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I have to see something for myself, mister.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Hale, What what are you looking for?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yes, here they are some letters, some notes in Wesley's
handwrite you see you see? Isn't obvious?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Isn't obvious. The writing is the same nonsense. But you
can see.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Wesley Carrodine wrote this card.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
This is a job for an expert. You and I
are going to the police day. Why because something of
a criminal nature is taking place.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
That is Wesley's handwriting, not Wesley's handwriting.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Wesley is dead now, sir. You happen to be very
important to the future happiness of a woman to whom
I owe a great deal, missus Penelope Terwilliger. She has
sent me here to take care of you until she
can come back to America. I see you. You will
walk into the midst of some well, very troublesome situation.
I'm here to stand by you in every way I can.

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And the first thing we have to do is to
go to the police.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
And when you come in, please thank you. Lieutenant Bower,
all right, please you see him.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
No, there were no fingerprints and the gun course not
can a corpse leave fingerprints? It was alive bullet in
one of the chambers and the other five were empty.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Music.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, what is all you need?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
And the understanding that we have an.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Affair, Wesley cardy, he sent me his revolver. Don't just
see he sent me his revolver.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, now, why would he do that, assuming, of course,
that what you're saying is true?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Bah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
And now look, mister Hale, Wesley Chardine was murdered exactly
six months ago. Now you know that, Yes, But I
was involved in that case myself. The facts cannot be
in dispute. Your chauffeur stopped by mister Kardine's apartment at
eight a m. That morning to pick him up. There
was no answer to the bell. The door was opened,
the chauffeur went end, found the place ransacked and mister

(16:49):
Kardine dead of a bullet? Would that's where we were
and that's where we are?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Is everyone absolutely positive that the dead man wife Wesley
Karady a?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well? Is it your name? Yes?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
That welcome.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Your police department appreciates even solicits as systems from the
citizens in this metropolis. But please don't be an amateur detective.
We have enough problems as it is.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
When you are satisfied that the dead man what western?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I am?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Why did you know mister Karade in person? Well, what
does this have to do with did you know him personally?

Speaker 6 (17:24):
Know?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Then? How would you be positive the dead man was Western?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Look?

Speaker 6 (17:28):
He was identified by the chauffeur and by mister Hale.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
What other identification did you look for? Other identific case, Yes,
a murder is committed, the corpse is found. Two men say,
this is the body of a mister Wesley Chardy. On
the basis of that testimony, you are satisfied that he
is actually Western Charade.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Mister Karady was, as we were given to understand, more
or less a stranger in town.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
As you were given to understand.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
By whom by mister or missus calder. What are you
trying to do to me? What are you trying to insinuate?
I thought that you were on my side.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I am to the finish. I'm only trying to establish
that we blithely accept the fact which may be found
to be an illusion.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
But why would I lie? What motive would y Hale?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Please? I have a mission to preserve your sanity, a mission,
miss Clowell. It's a private matter that does not concern
the police. I am trying, mister Hale, desperately to somehow
establish the fact that mister Kardine is still alive. What
made the chauffeur so sure the body was mister Karadine?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Miss Colwell, what you're trying.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
To do is could I talk to the chauffeur again?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
There was no doubt about that body. Well why can't
we talk to the chauffeur but because, well, because he's dead.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
He was killed in an accident last week.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Mister Hale, they have just been a number of upsetting events,
and you are quite disturbed by them. I can only
hope to prove somehow that mister Kardine is still alive,
that you are mistaken in your identification, because if he
is actually.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Dead, he is dead. I knew him very well.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Why was no attempt made to notify next to Kimo?
Because we didn't know any where did mister Karadine come from.
I don't know the Actually, it would seem he knew
very little about mister Karadine.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's right. I gathered that he had left home in disgrace.
It's great, but he hinted it some sort of misunderstanding. Anyhow,
he never wanted to speak about it. He said that
he was starting a new life.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Why would anyone want to kill it?

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Miss Callwell, and we have been through all this as
part of our routine homicide investigation.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
That may be the trouble you treat it as routine.
A human being has been murdered. Not only are you
ignorant as to whom they have done it, it appears
now you can't even be sure of the identity of
the corpse.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
We are sure, excuse me, a man was murdered. We
know that for a fact, and we found a corpse.
The body was identified as that of Wesley Chardine. Okay,
Wesley Chardy might not have been his right name, but
he was the man who had worked for mister Hale.
Here now bat man is dead. He was killed by

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a person all persons presently unknown, who then stole everything
of value from his person and his apartment. Mister Kardine
is dead. But then, how do you account for the.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Telephone call for this revolver with his name of Come now,
mister Hay.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
What was to prevent someone from buying a revolver having
into Western Karadine's name and.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Graved according to the number on this revolver it was
registered in the name of Wesley.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Chardin Lieutenant, anybody could buy a revolver and register it
under Wesley Karadine's name.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, no, no.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
In the first place, the registration dates back three years
and in the second place, only the actual applicant can
register the weapon because he has to be finger pritten.
And we have verified mister Karadine's fingerprints. Oh and there
is another thing. Yeah, our handwriting experts says she is certain,
beyond the shadow of a doubt that the card was

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written by Wesley Chardine.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Lieutenant Bower, I am certain there must be an explanation.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well, there may be harassment here or not.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It will look into it.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, how do you propose to look into it?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That is a good question.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I wish I had an answer.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Why would Wesley Karendeine threaten from the grave, assuming that
this is what's taking place?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I don't know how, mister Hale, there.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Must be a reason. Well he didn't like me. Yeah,
well no, why quite.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Frankly, he thought that I drove him too hard, I
paid him too little.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well I expected too much, did you?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well I suppose so. But I'm just as strict on myself.
I'll tell you what I believe, and you're.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Can make anything out of this, but you please.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
He probably resents the fact that he is dead and
I'm still alive.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Mister. If he's dead, he can't resent anything.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Look, I don't know how the police department fits in
all this. Now, I can only assume that we have
malicious mischief and I've got to take down some particulars. Now,
how many servants in your employee besides miss.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Cole Willier, I'm the only one.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
And how long have you worked for mister Hale?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
How long?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I say? About an hour?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
An hour? How did you get the job?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was sent to mister Hale by a friend of his,
Missus Penelope ter Williger.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Missus Penelope to Willie.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Well, I uh, I'll.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
See what we can do, mister Hale. What is it
you must come down for Bretton?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
No, I'm not hungry.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
We haven't eaten in two days.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
The phone rang this morning at six thirty dinners?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yes, I did that.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Who was it he called? Again?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Didn't huh? And what did he say?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Does it matter? Why do you allow you?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I knew who it was the minute I heard the
phone ring.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Who did Yes?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Then why didn't you answer it? Because I can't that
way you've known for sure if it's his voice?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
What did he say?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Mister Hale? I have a problem I can't help and
it gets met all kinds of troubles put yourself in
my position, I hear a phone, I answer it. I
report it's a man. I describe the voice. You've become terrified.
Why because you insisted a man who's six months dead.
Now Here is where my problem comes in. I make

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deductions from facts and I speak my mind. I see
you react in such a violent manner. You're so distraught.
I cannot help, but suspect you have a feeling of guilt.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Do Why should I have a feeling of guilt?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Sir? Were you or were you not responsible for that
man's death?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
He was killed by the robbers.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
We don't know that for a fact.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
What are you trying to imply?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I don't even think I'm implying it. I stated as
a fact, you killed mister Wesley Kerothy. Oh do you
dare since we can settle this with a yes or no, for.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
The answers are definite. No, I hope it's you're satisfied, sir.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
All I'm saying to you is that your reaction tends
to arouse suspicious What do you expect?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I was very close with Wesley towards the end, and
I was just what I was caught.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So completely off guard. What has it ever happened to you.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You're hit from the blindside without warning.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
If your conscience is clear, then you must not behave
as if it were guilty.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well no, what's conscience is ever entirely clear?

Speaker 3 (24:28):
But you cannot behave as if you were the man
who murdered him. The first thing you need is a
good breakface. Wesley Gardine is dead. You are probably upset
because you might have been kinded to it. Yes, be
kinder to someone in the future, and you will have
learned from his death. And now for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Oh yes, yes, I'm starved. It's called robell. What would
ever do without you?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's a telephone? Naturally you you answer it?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Lay the matter to rescue to hell?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Answer it well, I give you back your very old words.
No gentleman ever answers his own telephone very.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, sir mister Hale's residence. Oh it's you again. Never
mind that before you even get started. You're playing a
nasty little illegal game. We have the police and the
phone company alerted. Sooner or later you're going to be caught. Then,
my friend is the jail or the asylum for the
likes of you. Goodbye.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
I guess I told him it was that voice, Yes.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
That ignorance and vicious person. Now you know the best
way to have these people?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh what did he say?

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Don't even talk to them. As soon as you know
who it is, hang out.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
But what did he say?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
What does it matter? Sooner or later they get tired
of the game. Their minds are too fragile to have
any staying power.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
He must have said something.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
He identified himself as as Wesley Carrodine.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Oh, yes, but I know his voice by now.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
But did he say anything else?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I wasn't listening. Now, some hot coffee, cereal, eggs, bacon toast.
Get back into the real world and say hail and stay.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
There you hear a remarkable woman eats your breakfast.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I wonder, I just wonder who that voice is? Good?
We make progress till now you had deluded yourself into
thinking it would actually the voice of wors Gabine, whoever
he was. Now your acknowledge, your rational explanation club.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I mean it's obviously a prank.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I used to work for a doctor, he said, Miss Caldwell.
The body, the mind, whichever is attacked by a germ
or a neurosis. It retreats at first, and then it
summoned all its strength to repel the invaders. Now that's
what has just happened to you. The practical instincts of
a lifetime have just come to your assistant and rescued

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you from being overcome.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
By superstitious Of course, I'm interested in knowing what he
did say, however.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Not very much. He said his name, I mean, his
alleged name, asked for you and said he wanted to
discuss the project.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
What sort of project?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Said you know about it? He gave it a name,
a name, Yes, he said it was the Langley Jewet proposal.
The what well, I think that's what he said, Jewet
Langley or was it Langley Jewet? I don't know, mister Hale.
Mister Hale's wrong.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Mister Hale, what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Mister Hale has just collapsed on the floor. That's for starters.
It seems that he has been knocked unconscious by the
mention of a name. Now, what's in a name? The
poet asks. The answer, quite obviously, is it all depends
on whose name? We'll name some more names when I

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returned shortly with Act three. The pen is mightier than

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the sword, and the word, it seems, is weightier than
the fist. If you want to strike a knockout blow,
perhaps a good look can be more destructive than a
right hook. The greatest wounds may be those that leave

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absolutely no outside scarring. On with our story.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
To Hall, but to Hal, don't anything. Just think this.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
You said that.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Wesley called, And no, sir, Wesley did not call. What
you just said? I said a voice that claimed to
be Wesley, Now drink this. He wanted to talk about
about Langley Jewet. You're going to be all right, Langley Jewet,
he did say, Langley Jewet. Mister Hale, you must rely.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
How can I relax?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Because you had a bad experience.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It was the voice of Wesley Chardin.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
We know that, Imble, don't you see?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Only Wesley Carrodine and I knew about Langley Jewets.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Are you positive?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Of course?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
What is Langley jewet?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
What? Oh, but it's it's it's a well, it's a mine.
It's an old abandoned silver mine. Yes, you see, it's
supposed to be all played out and we could pick
it up for peanuts.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Wesley discovered that there's a whole untapped load millions and
millions of dollars worth of silver.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
This was your secret?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yes, Wesley's in mine.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
How do you know if someone else didn't find out?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Nobody could have found out?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
How can you be sure.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Because I just closed the deal for the mind myself.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
What does that prove?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
You don't understand if anyone else had been wise, I
could never have well, I could never have stolen that mine.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Don't that's the figure of speech?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Then why did you make it sound like a shady transaction?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Is it shady to pick up a property as cheaply
as you can?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
What you're saying is that you are able to buy
Langley Jewet because only you and Wesley Karady knew. It's
true that it obviously this person just called knows something
about it.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Also said that that is why that person has to
be Wesley Carrodine.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
If Wesley Carrodine called you, then he can't be dead.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
But he is.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I know that he is.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
How can you be so certain? After all, for reasons
of his own, Wesley may have wanted to disappear. He
murdered someone who may have resembled him, left that someone's
body in his apartment. You and your chauffeur make the
natural assumption the apartment is Wesley. The body looks like
West it's therefore it must be Wessey.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, that's that's not that's not what happened. It was Wesley,
my dear mister Hale.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Most of our assumptions are based not on absolute truth,
but what seems to be apparently trol.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Will you shut up?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
I know you're a fi.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I cannot just stop talking for a minute. Where you
just stop acting? Is that you know everything? You're always
gabbing away? No wonder again?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
But got married?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I don't believe that my personal affairs much.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I never had an affair either.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
You couldn't stop talking long enough.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, you listen to a minute.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Wesley Karradine is dead.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know how I know. I'll tell you he is
dead because I killed him.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
They don't have to say anything. You really have nothing
to add to this conversation.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I killed Wesley Cardy.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
You realize what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yes, I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You realize I could go to the police.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Oh you won't go.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
You tend to stop me by four.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
There's a gun on my addresser, Wesley's gun. He's got
a bullet in it. I could kill you.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
But I don't have to because you will not go
to the police.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
How can you be so sure?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
What?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Because you wouldn't betray me, I.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Have a higher obligation as a citizen.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It wouldn't do you any good. All you have is
your unsupported word. I can deny it, Miss Colwell. The
police investigated that murder very early. I was a routine suspect.
I had an unshakable alibi. I had spent that evening
with a young lady.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
She can be found. That alibi can be broken.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
But she has since disappeared into the vast anonymity of
her kind and class isn't as possible.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
She may return one day for blackmail.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I have information concerning her which could be as damaging
as anything she could say about me to her.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'll be leaving. Maybe I don't want to stay in
the house of the murderer.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
But you can't leave me here alone.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
You've always lived here alone.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I cannot be alone now.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're a murderer. But you can't prove it, of course not,
and that means the state can't punish you. But there
is another punishment. There is another retribution. You'll never know
a moment's peace for the rest of your life. You
will always hear Wesley Chardine's voice. You will always see.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
His face was called, please listen.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You don't know how it is you.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Broke a man made law. The violate is a god
given commander.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I did I know that?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I did?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Then take your punishment.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Take your punishment. You could say that that's what strong
people say, that's you know, that's what That's what Wesley said,
Take your punishment.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
What punishment, mister Hall, I needed that.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Mind that that language jewet mine.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Everything else had gone down.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
The dream you had been losing other people's money, you
faced the day of reckoning.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
How did you know?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's all too familiar a situation. A trustee, an executor
and administrator. You act, you act as all free In
many cases you were false to your trust.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Don't say it. It's enough that Wesley said it.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I didn't know that I was going to kill Wesley.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I didn't dream of it.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I stopped by at his apartment that night, just to
check out some routine affairs, and he he see what
he said. I'll never forget the way he said it.
We're not going to steal that mine, Arthur. What we'll
offer ten many What are you talking about when I
fifteen would even be more fair should I get a doctor.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
That's what we'll offer.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
We have an option to buy.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
That mine for thirty thousand dollars, but that would be
stealing if you're crazy. But I can knowingly buy something
for the tiniest fraction of his worth.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Is to cheat, but it's legal and legitimate business.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's cheating.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh have you never cheated in your life?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It has much too often and far too often. Now
Missus Jewet is a widow. She has children to support
and educate. Now we are stealing from her. What happened
to you? All of a sudden, I feel that I
want to go home. I have to go home, I
wrote my folks expecting me.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Now, look, I have losses.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I have to make up. I can go to jail.
I am sorry. But if you keep sailing so close
to the winds, sooner or later the boat tips over. Well,
what are you going to do? Now?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Forget all about this fancy philosophy.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Tomorrow morning, I'll call on missus Jews and I'll tell
her we intend to make a realistic offer for the mine,
but she is happy to get thirty thousand. My mind
is made up millions. You off a million. Will we
get those millions, will operate the mine and pay as
we go.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
No, I won't do it now.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Look I am in as deep as you are. We
both have to pay a price. Well, I won't let you.
I am sorry. There is nothing you can do about it.
But there was something that I could do about it.
I went home, I got my revolver, I went back
there and I shot him. Then I ransack the place
to make it appear to be robbery. The police investigated

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for a few weeks, and then it was filed and forgotten.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Perhaps it wasn't forgotten by Wesley Kardeene. He's been trying
to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
No, no, no, no, it's my imagination. Ah, I feel better.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I had to talk to someone. I had to confess
to someone, and now I feel better. The weight is
off of my soul. It's all of my imagination that
I can control that.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
To westse Gardine, he wants to talk to it's all
my imagination. I hear the phone, it's not in my imagination.
I defy you. Pick up that phone, talk to him,
talk to the man you murdered.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
No, no, I can't, and I'll tell him. O.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yes, I know who it is. He says, he will
not talk to you very well, I'll tell him.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Why what are you going to tell me?

Speaker 3 (36:27):
He wants to see you.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
No, I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I can't see you and confess you've killed him. I
did not to me. I don't count confess to the police.
If you want to know peace, you'll have to do that.
Or or what do what he told you in his
note when he sent you the gun?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Use it?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Well, one is all you need? No, no, never, it
has to be one way or the other. Or sir,
you know what that is? The doorbell? Are you expecting anyone?
Of course you are when you let him in?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Or shall I?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I can't tell him to go away, care, confess to
the police, or follow his adviser.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I won't do it. Yeah, scare me, good if a
thing in my imagination, you don't scare me.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I was downstairs in the kitchen, lieutenant. He was upstairs
in his room. He was terribly upset. I heard a shot.
I was frightened. I ran upstairs, and there he was,
lying in bed with the revolver beside him.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
You say he was depressed, he wasn't himself.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well you saw that Lieutenant when he was in your office.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I am convinced that he killed Wesley Charrody. You are there.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
You get a hunch of our people in my work,
you know. Unfortunately you don't always get the evidence to
back it. So I said to myself, here is a
clear case of conscience bringing the man down.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
He does look that way. He confessed the murder to me.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Yeah, I guess that's about the size of it. I said,
why should his conscience started to bother him?

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Maybe you now me, Well, I have a theory, you know,
I don't want to bother running it down.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Because I have too much else to do in this
case wraps up very neatly.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Do you want to get my theory?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I'd love too.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
But you say you were recommended to mister Hale by
missus Penelope to Willier. What if I were to get
in touch with missus Tillie.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Here and ask her to verify that? What would she say?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You won't novel unless and until you ask her.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Well, I don't want to do that because if she
says I don't know him as call well, and I
have all no involvements I see now of how the
phone calls you are the only one who ever answered
the phone, and you are.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
The only one who ever heard that voice.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
You are the one who said it'd called itself Wesley Chardy.
That's what it said to me, Lieutenant. Well, let me
go to the revolver. You could have sent it to
mister Hale, but it.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Was obviously Wesley Carodine. Where would I have gotten.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I'll answer that question in just a moment.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
And the card?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Where could I have gotten a card with his handwriting?

Speaker 6 (39:13):
Where from a Mother's Day present or a birthday present?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
You might have saved it?

Speaker 3 (39:19):
What are you saying?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
If your name is.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Missus Chardine, everything falls into place. Now you would have
the old gun, you would have cards from old gifts. Ohay, incidentally,
what did he once buy you that he inscribed with
use it?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Well?

Speaker 4 (39:40):
One is all you need.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
You would know enough valid inside things about Wesley which
you might use to frighten Hail.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
It certainly is a fascinating theory.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Oh it gets better. Now we are summoned to this address.
We find Hale that a bullet wound.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Apparently self inflicted.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Now he could have been napping, He could have been
shot from very close range, what we call suicide. Distance.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I understand you found his fingerprints on the revolver.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Well, why shouldn't we if somebody put the gun in
his hand afterwards?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, it's a fascinating theory. Tell me, lieutenant, what happens
to the theories? Like you were?

Speaker 6 (40:26):
Well, in this case it appears open and shut. A
man commits suicide. Now I know for a fact he's
been depressed, his conscience has been bothering him. Why don't
I have to go running around looking for complications?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
I think you are a most sagacious and sensitive police officer,
and I want to thank you very much, thank him

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for what?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Who knows? So? Who killed mister Arthur Randolph Hale? His
own hand? Guided by remorse? Or Missus Caldwell? Or is
she missus Caardine? You have as much evidence as we do.

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Why should we perform all the work? I shall return shortly.

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A little while ago, when this particular story began, we
spoke about the wind and the flame, how the same
wind can kill or give greater life to a blaze.
And so it is within ourselves we are the flame.

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Our conscience is the wind, and we blaze or spidder
according to those forces within us. We do a lot
of blazing and a little bit of sputtering, just to
give it variety seven times a week right here. Our

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cast included celest Holm, Norman Rose and Earl Hammond. The
entire production was under the direction of Hymond Brown. And
now a preview of our next tale.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
I recording a vibration with an amtraitude of nearly sixty
minimeters pro li.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Very tremors already calculation.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
No, No, it's too song for that.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
What's the depth?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
It's uh my seventy feet but I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
What We'll look where it's coming from, transpose the coordinates.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Val at the safe ground. It's solid bed rock. It
seems to be moving at a steady.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Basic Good lord, what look at the screen. Look, quitter's
headed straight towards the fault line. What's the ansague of love?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
It's still sixty millimeters?

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Still? Are you sure?

Speaker 7 (43:31):
Whatever it is a sixty millimeters, it's still strong enough
that if it comes into contact with the fall, hang
on it. I'm calling the mayor, and if he won't listen,
I'm calling the National Guard. No you Sam, If it's
the real thing, it's too late, missus E G. Marshall,
inviting you to return to our Mystery Theater for another
adventure in the macabre. Until next time, pleasant

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Me