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Speaker 2 (02:20):
For the people that are listening right now. We met
what thirty minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Or yeah, it's been about maybe thirty I just literally
just walked through his front door. Yeah, and it was
a little bit spooky because you know, it's my first
time meeting this guy too.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And it says no trespassing on the front door. And
I'm like, see, you see it.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But all these motherfuckers that are lived down the street
or live down that street, they don't. They just don't
give a fuck. They're like, oh, no trespassing, Okay. I
guess that means it's opposite day. Let me go through
the yard and let me like destroy property.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Happens all the time, as the government itself would say,
ignorance of laws, no excuse.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
In this case, I think they are ignorant more. Maybe
their intentions are dress pass.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and that's not okay because if not, they're going
to have to deal with JT angry JT oh or
an annoyed JT. And that's something people do not want.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
To deal I promise you guys don't want to see that.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So tell the people who you are, what you do, just.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Kind of give them a little introduction.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, you know, I can give a standard introduction of
how I want people, you know, like how I introduce
myself and like family events and stuff, and then I
can give a formal introduction. So I feel like I'm
gonna go with two routes because it you know, people
can relate. So I'm a data scientist. You know, studied
environmental science, eventually got into computer science and you know,
became a data scientist's been doing that for a while.

(03:40):
Cut to the chase. I want to break out of
the nine and five. I've been doing podcasts and stuff
for about two years. I have a YouTube channel now
where I go out and do street interviews and stop,
you know, question the grain, and that's kind of what
I've been trying to do recently. The nine to five
has been really getting to me, you know, sitting in
the subway, having sweaty balls all and just not being

(04:01):
able to move, and then you know, I can't say
certain things.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So HR will fire you. So I feel like there's
light at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
And for anybody listening to who wants to relate, I
feel like, you know, you can do it.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Definitely, This Skuy's the limit.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Absolutely, this guy's only the limit once you take your
head out of you know, your ass.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, try and escape the matrix of society. So what
got you initially interested in podcasting?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, I started off as a singer, and you know,
I got a couple of good reviews and I was
actually gonna I was gonna show you those videos too.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
When I was like, well, I don't know how that
would go.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
But and I got some good comments on them and
people were like, wow, you sound really good, and I
was like, wow, this feels good. Then I got into
street interviews. My first interview was on Satan Patrick. I
was just going around Boston and I saw another YouTuber
actually in the Boston Common and he just came up
and he just he was just he just fucked with.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Me a little bit.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
He was like, Hey, have you ever joked off in class?
And I'm like, he was just trolling me. He had
a sister recording him, and I was like, is this
person for real? And then I looked at his YouTube channel.
He was bringing an ad revenue about like I think.
I think on one video he made like three grand.
So I just took his phone number and I was like, hey, like,
I want to learn from you, and I just want
to be under your.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And I just want to say this. I feel like
most people just want to directly jump to like the
role of like a boss or a CEO, and most
people don't know how to play the role.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
And I want to I always say that, man, I
always say that people really don't.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And there were times in.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
My life I'm not gonna lie where I was naive,
and I think we all are at one point, you know,
starting off, and whether it's being an entrepreneur or whatever
it might be, whatever aspect, there comes a certain time
where you have to have that self awareness and if
you really are motivated, you know that dedication, that determination
and ambition, you have to know when to play your

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role right. Also, like one of the great laws of
the forty eight Laws of Power by Love that book,
never outshine your mask.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Love that book.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, absolutely, And I've done that and it never really ends.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean you got to be able to listen
to in order to learn to a certain degree, right,
you gotta be able to listen to a certain degree.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Imagine meeting it on Musk and telling him to shut
the fuck up while he's teaching you about money.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Or imagine you want to be a war.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Level athlete and you meet Mike Tyson and you're like, Mike,
you're a pussy. The level of arrogance that people have
nowadays while they say they want to escape the matrix
and stuff like that, Like, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
First learn to be quiet and listen, But it's because
of social media, right, everybody wants to just jump the gun, right.
So I met this YouTuber and he showed me. He
was very transparent.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
He showed me his AdSense revenue on YouTube, and I
got really inspired, and I was like, what do I do?
And first off, I wasn't This is not when I
had a YouTube channel. This is just I just saw
his setup and he was like, hey, if you want
to learn.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just work with me. I'm not going to pay you.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Don't expect money because I'm broke, you know, because he
spends it all on equipment and stuff. But come record
for me. And I was like, sure, I think I
did about five to six episodes.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay. His name is Uri Shack if anybody wants to
check out. He's a local Bosston YouTuber.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
But I went I did about like five or six
episodes for him, just recorded them, just walking around the.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Beat side stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
And I noticed this guy had a wireless microphone that
was plugged into his camera and clipped on the top
of his camera, and then his microphone was plugged either
as a handheld or on his shirt. And I was
like okay, and I wrote down the microphone name. I
wrote down the camera name, went home and ordered mine
and that's where my YouTube career started. So you know,
you got you all gotta start somewhere, right. It's all

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about you look at a person and how he's achieved success,
and you just got to copy it. It's really that simple,
it really is. People try to reinvent the wheel, it's
really just copying it.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with trying to reinvent the wheel.
That's strictly for people that are innovators or experienced yeah,
and know what they're doing. Or even if you're not
experienced at least if you're inexperienced, knowing going in, you're
gonna fail, and not only you're gonna feel, you're gonna
feel really fucking bad, right right, You're gonna fall on
your face, right.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I know.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I'm sure I'm going to look at this podcast like
ten years from now, I'm gonna be like, Wow, that
was cringe.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Why did I sound like?

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I say that all the time.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I can't even listen to a lot of the interviews
that I've done, Especially when I started interviewing a lot
of like famous musicians, actors, I started getting really nervous
and like looking back and listening to those interviews, it's
so fucking cringe. Man, it's so bad. I have so
much respect for these like big name people for like

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not being a dick about it when it could have been.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know, they kind of.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Because if they've lived that life, they know what it's
like to be in those shoots.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
But a lot of them forget though, And that's what
I've encountered. And I mean they say, like, don't meet
your heroes. And there's been a lot of people that
I grew up like fans of bought their albums, seeing
them live, and then I you know, meet them in
person or on social medium, we're talking or on the phone,
and I'm like, wow, this person's really an asshole.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's really like a personality.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
But there's also some people, I have to be transparent.
There are some people who are so fucking nice and generous,
and people that like are so well established in like Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
In my experience, there's been a few.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
People along the way where they've helped me, you know,
not like giving me work or opportunities, were like do
an interview podcast right when they don't have to come
on on it with JT. Like, this isn't e news,
This isn't you know what I mean, It's sixty minutes
or whatever. And I don't want to downplay who I
am and what I've achieved. The point is they didn't
have to do.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
That, right, I did it, and that's something I always
respect and always will be, you know, admire about them,
and I never forget things like that. Yeah, and you'll
you'll remember that. You'll feel like you owe them a
favor because they.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Owe you one.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Of course, I don't always look up they held you,
and I feel like I've encountered certain people like that,
But then I haven't garden people who will make fun
of you for trying. Right, you just mentioned you were
nervous with these celebrities. Somebody on the internet might just
be like, oh wow, he was nervous. Okay, how many
times have you sat with the celebrity exactly?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Right? Like what color is your buguddy? Exactly? And that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
No one is ever going to laugh at you or
critique you, criticize you if they haven't done and tried
what you are doing. Those are the people that are
going to be talking the most and laughing at you.
Criticizing people that have done it and that are successful.
You know, they might chuckle if you're an amateur, if
you did something silly or something, but they're not going

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to ostracize you, criticize, or put you down because they
already went through that stage.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Bro, you just reminded me of a story. I was
at this wedding, right, and we have an entrepreneurial like
family member. What he does is so simple. Right, he
goes around two businesses and he asks them, how's your awning? So,
for those who are listening who don't know what an
awning is, an awning is like a vinyl or almost
like a plastic covering outside your door that prevents you

(10:54):
from getting wet. So if you stand outside, you in
your doorstep when you're not getting wet, look next time
you're not getting wet and it's raining, look up, there's
gonna be a plastic shade on top of you.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's an awning.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Okay, So this guy all he does, he started going
around and selling I didn't even know. I didn't know
until I met this guy. So he was at this
wedding and he's pushing lambos and stuff. Like most of
the time he's driving an m five or something like that,
like a BMW. So okay, you know he's got the
kids around him, like trying to get in his car,
take pictures, you know, pretend to be something they're not.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's funny, but everybody really respects this guy. I've been
that person. Everybody's been that person.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I noticed something in it, and I feel like I
noticed people's expressions a lot. I notice, you know, certain
eye movements, how they twitch, and I.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Read, I read between the lines. I really do that stuff.
So it's important to being analytical.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
You have to be observed it, yeah, because if you don't,
it can cost you your life. Right. Hey, that's also
my job. So I've been trained to. But I feel
like everybody should develop that muscle.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
So there was a everybody was, you know, just like
checking pictures of his car, and he was half way
through the wedding hall, like at the door entrance, and
the kid walked up to him and he was like, oh,
I heard you're very rich. And everybody just looked like,
why would you say that. It's a weird thing to say,
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Speaker 1 (13:43):
I kid you.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Not everybody around them here laughed laughed. The only person
that didn't laugh was that person.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Why is that?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Because people usually laugh at people who try, and he
knew because he had that personality when he was young.
He probably he probably looked at somebody rich and was like,
fuck you, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Make all the money than I know you have.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, I have right at But the only person that
wasn't laughing in that situation was that guy. So I
was like, Wow, that says something about his mindset because
he took that kid seriously. He didn't laugh in his face.
He took him seriously. He's like he took it as
a challenge. I wouldn't be surprised if that keeps him
up at night, right. I saw this video from Mike

(14:26):
Tyson too, and he was like, oh, I was just yeah,
I was coming out of my fight, and I'll never
forget it.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I was it was it was a kid. He looked
at me right in the face and he was like,
I'm gonna beat you one day. And it still keeps
me up at night.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
It's that same thing because I feel like, you know,
sharks recognized sharks.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know, lions recognized lions. And I would never laugh
at somebody who's ambitious or somebody who's trying. Oh yeah,
me neither.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I admire that, especially with the society and everything nowadays.
Like and I don't want to knock the younger generation.
There are plenty of smart, talented people.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Oh I want to knock up that, like this younger
generation basically like you see it in this generation. Yeah,
rather than actually taking action, they're just like pulling each
other's legs.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I just feel like in this generation, so many people
want everything handed to them. They don't want to put
in the work. And yes, it would be nice if
someone could help you and someone can steer you in
the right direction, and that might come every once in
a while you have someone that's you know, fortune, You're

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fortunate enough to have someone that comes along your path
and kind of steer you and nudge you in the
right direction. That isn't guaranteed, and that's not going to
happen every single day or every single year. So it's
up to you to take the initiative and go out
there and create a name for yourself. Do something that
you will be proud of, not only today, but when

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looking back in twenty or thirty fifty years. You want
to be able to look back and be like, I
didn't have any regrets. I feel like there's so many
people that just like have so many regrets, and I
just don't want to have regrets when I get old.
So I don't mind looking stupid now. I don't mind
taking risks and making a fool of myself. I don't

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mind failing, because at least I can look back and say, well,
at least I try.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
At least you did it right, least I try. And
you're coming full circle. You just said like people don't
know how to play their part. You mentioned that book
the forty eight Laws of Power by Robert Green. This
stuff really does come full circle.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It really does. And I'm a big believer in karma.
Whatever you put out into the universe, whatever you think
about yourself. Whatever you say about yourself not only fail,
but I know that the universe hears that.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Oh no, the universe is conscious. Oh yeah. People probably
be like, oh, what's your evidence and stuff? There's plenty
of evidence. Start looking up quantum fists.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I knew you're going to.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I was gonna go to contific because I feel like
if you bring up religion, there's a lot of anti
religious people. So I always try to say it in
a way where it's something that can resonate with as
many people as possible. Yeah, I firmly believe someday somebody
will look at this podcast and be heard a billion times.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I firmly believe that people people might laugh at me
or whatever.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I don't care. I don't care what you say. You're
gonna watch this podcast blow up one day or another.
So I want to resonate with as many people as
they can while I'm talking while I'm still breathing too.
And quantum physics coming back to it really does talk
about how the universe is conscious, how the observer affect.
You can observe a particle and it'll behave differently when

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you're looking at it versus when you're.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Not looking at it.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
How are you gonna say God doesn't exist after stuff
like that is there. There's things that pop in and
out of physical matter, there's anti matter, there's all this stuff.
Timelines exist together, past present, future exists together. This is
not stuff I'm pulling out of my ass. This is science,
and this is hard facts. It's called quantum physics. So
I really want to be able to point that out.
The universe is conscious, karma is real. All this stuff

(18:03):
that we're talking about is all rooted in science.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And I feel like.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Just so many people just don't want to do the research,
or just so many people are like just not awake.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
They're ignorant, right, Yeah. And I want to define the
word ignorant because for the longest time, before I ever
came to America, I thought ignorant meant somebody who just
doesn't know stuff. Right.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to rain tonight,
But that doesn't mean I'm ignorant to it. It just
means I don't know, Right, That's different from ignorant. I
think ignorance is when people ignore the facts. Yeah, it's
like it's raining.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Outside, but I deliberately walk outside without an umbrella. I
think that's ignorance and then acting like, oh why is
this happening, and then being a victim. Yeah, it's a
vicious cycle. It's a constructive to see it, Yeah, destructive.
It's a self destructive cycle.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's self abuse and probably one of the highest forms too.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Highest forms of self abuse. I thought perfectionism was the
highest form of self abuse until I met ignorant people.
These people deny actual reality and can move this topic
into any political realms, to it anywhere, but anyway. But
I want to talk more generally because I don't I
don't want to pick sides because I feel like the
government is on nobody's side.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It doesn't matter what side you see me Personally, I'm
very open. I think it's all a show. What is
necessary is to get money out of politics. But I
don't think that's ever going to happen.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Right, I mean, the government, if you look at it,
it's all owned by banks. Now we don't have we
don't have a democracy anymore. We don't have a true democracy.
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Speaker 2 (20:10):
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Mike.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Man, so season twenty three, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I didn't foresee this back in nineteen ninety eight
when we started in our little random office building in
the valley writing these ridiculous jokes with these drawings that
Stef came up with.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Did you meet Seth MacFarlane in Rhode Island?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's correct. Yeah, My brother Patrick was a film, video
and animation student at the Rhode Island School of Design. Okay,
and that was at a time when I was setting
out to do comedy, live action comedy actually, and I
acted in my brother's films up there in Providence. And
when I went up there, over the course of a
few different weekends, I met Seth and we hit it

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off and cracked each other up, and that's how we connected.
And then I was on my way to what I
wanted to be a career like on SNL and going
from there. I was living in New York at the
time and getting fairly close. I was doing some table
reads for some of the movies up there at thirty
Rocks and called and said, Hey, you know this pitch

(21:16):
I've been working on that you've been helping me with.
I just sold they want to come to LA and
write for Family Guy and create some characters.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
So I did Wow, And the rest is history, right.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So, so I have to ask you, Mike, can you
share a personal family memory or an early experience that
kind of sparked your passion for performance and storytelling.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You know, it was really kind of growing up in
elementary school, middle school. I started to realize that I
was funny and I could imitate people, you know, friends, teachers, parents,
and you know, the key to comedy is saying something
at somebody that they would never say exactly. And you know,
and I I sort of realized that a knack for
making people laugh and it made me feel good and

(22:03):
so i'd say real early, you know, I realized that,
and I didn't pursue it until a couple of years
out of college.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, for me personally, I'm just kind of getting into
writing comedy. I'm kind of late at it. You know,
I'm thirty one.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
But oh yeah, you may as well give up so.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Late, I know, right, I there's no chance for me now,
that's right. But it's so funny because I was never
funny growing up. You know, I'd make a joke here
in there. But I've just been studying so much and
I'm not saying I'm hilarious now, but I definitely have
a lot of work to do. There's no better feeling
than making people laugh.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean it's I did a
little bit of stand up back in the day and
a lot of improv and stuff, and there's nothing like
that live feedback when people are laughing. And yeah, so
I agree. And as I've gotten older, I really I
don't go for the laugh as much I go for
the truth. I would err on the side of just

(22:58):
being real and trying to put myself out there, you know,
with a stretch for a joke. So kind of learn
to let it come to me a little bit and
just keep things real and then you know, just throw
a start when it presents itself.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I love it now, the genesis of the Cleveland Show.
When co creating The Cleveland Show, were there any moments
when you kind of infused your own life experiences into
the narrative and how does some personal truth shape the
show's unique tone and humor.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, you know, Cleveland is me. You know, I'm I'm
I'm white and Cleveland is black. Other than that we
are the same. And yeah, no, all kinds of experiences.
You know, you would be indignant at times, and that
is how my mother acts in ridiculous situations, taking a
self right to stand when you know she, in my opinion,

(23:51):
doesn't have any business doing that, or just the sort
of not taking life too seriously in general, and sarcasm,
all of it is kind of me. And yeah, so
absolutely that character I created in the writer's room with
family Guy and nineteen ninety eight, I guess, and you know,

(24:14):
just fostered him, to care of him, developed him, and
you know, we had a nice little run there for
four years. Definitely, you know, I'm very proud of that work.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Since your early days with working with Seth, what major
changes have you witnessed in the animation industry and how
have those shifts kind of influenced your approach to voice
acting and storytelling.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I would say the approach has not influenced my approach
to voice acting. I've always just sort of kept it
real with a twist of absurdity. I think that's, you know,
for me, that's the most satisfying way to do it.
As far as the industry goes, it's you knows, as
the means have become accessible, you know a lot of

(24:58):
people are able to get their stuff made and put
it out there, and you know, I think it's great
and it's a democratization in the same way that live
action is, where you know, it's all out there and
the control systems aren't as tight. You know, if if
something's good, you know it'll find its audience without a
lot of middlemen for women or dace or whatever is

(25:21):
appropriate to say now and you know, so it's it's
just evolved along with our world. I think it's just
an extension of everything. It helps as far as media
culture and communication and sort of our virtual reality. But yeah,
you can always find truth, you can always find laughs,

(25:42):
and you know that those are the things that look
more in life and look for an entertainment.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
That's a great answer. Now, yes, there, Reflecting on your journey,
can you just share one moment of doubt or significant
challenge that ultimately fueled your growth as an artist as
a former, and what did it teach you about staying
true to your vision.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I would say that I was about seven or eight
years into my pursuit of comedy when I was twenty four.
I sort of had a regular mainstream advertising job and
I quit that job to go be funny for a
little and at the time I didn't know where that
was headed. I thought SNL might be the place. I
was working very hard to stand up and improv and

(26:28):
then started doing short films sort of commercial parity films,
student films of my brothers that I would act in
and do an improvit with Upright citizens for Dade Theater
in New York, and I found myself at a real crossroads,
like right about eight years in, like I said, where

(26:48):
nothing was clicking. I was having all out with some
comedy allies. I was having some doubts about what I
was doing. My friends were getting married and kids and
finding houses, and I was deep into debt. Just find
anything my dream. And you know they say it's star
based before the dawn, and that was certainly true. I

(27:11):
just hit a rock bottom moment in New York and
just found myself auditioning, making a hot dog dance on
off paper plate as my audition, and ask myself what
the hell I was doing. But you know, I'm not
necessarily a believer in organized revision, but I believe in
a higher power and God and the energy within it.

(27:31):
And I just really just reached out to that energy
and just said, I don't know what else to do,
and you know, you got to show me the way
because I don't know. I don't know what else to do.
And so right then I booked two national commercials. I
got a call from Lawn Michael's office for my brother
and I to go do some short films for him,
and then Seth called. All within like three months, so

(27:54):
I would say perseverance and just believing in yourself and
trusting yourself and your energy into something you believe in,
and being positive and you know, just having faith that
the world's going to open up for you if you
do this thing.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I love that. That's really deep and powerful.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you coming on
the show and just giving me a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Of your time.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I really like what you're doing and I think it's cool,
and I will tell you to keep rocking it, and
you know, just keep going. I think, right, you know
the old age of thirty one, you might be about done,
but no, man, just keep rocking. I love what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thank you, Mike. That means a lot. And where can
people follow you on Instagram?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's Mike Henry bro Okay, our few starts Mike Henry.
And then I have a website Mike Henry dot com
and you know, from there it'll lead you to some
other websites that got up so awesome. Thank you for
the plug there.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, of course, thank you so much, Mike.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Awesome. We'll talk to.

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I feel like I knew I was a creative person
for the most part, because ever since I was young,
I was trying on things, you know, whether it's just
like making a short film here and there.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Or maybe just a school project.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Like I knew I had it in me until I
met this YouTuber guy, you know, the one I just
mentioned before, who I'm met in the Boston Common. I
feel like creativity really needs a route to flow toward,
because you could be a really created person, but now
you don't know what you do with that creativity. You
could be a really good singer, but you don't know
what to sing right. You could be a really good painter,
but you don't know what to paint. So I feel like,

(29:55):
for the most part, I'm well rounded, like I can
saying I can do YouTube videos, I can do all that,
but you gotta flow it towards you can't. You know,
jack of all trades, master of none, you gotta master
one at the end of the day. You could do everything.
That's fine, but and that's good as far as you
know your public image and stuff. But I feel like
you need a mentor. And I feel like for me,
that YouTuber guy who's filming YouTube videos with me, I

(30:17):
was filming for him and I learned what its equipment was,
what his microphone was, what his camera was, how they
plugged in together, how the software works, you know, how
I can post edit, pre edit, all that stuff. That
really was a flow for my creativity.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
It was really a channel. And I feel like that's
really what it is.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
If anybody's listening to this and they know they're a
creative person, your next step is to find a mentor.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And if you're a created person, you're gonna love every
second of what you're doing. It's not gonna feel like work.
Right you give me accounting, I can't do it. I
cannot do it.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah, like if my girlfriend's mother, she's an accountant, and
I don't know how she does it. Sits in one
place and just looks at number eight hours that numbers
eight hours a day.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I cannot do that that. I couldn't do that. If
you paid me two hundred thousand a year, yeah, I
wouldn't do it. Two hundred thousand dollars, that's a lot
of money. I still wouldn't do it. But sit me
in front of this microphone.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
You don't give me like twenty grand whatever, and I
feel like it won't feel like work to me. This
is just for me, This is just leisure. Yeah, I
just say what I think is right. I just say
what feels right. And you know, it doesn't feel like work.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
At all, definitely. And that's why.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Like when I started back in twenty ten, I was
sixteen years old. I was a sophomore in high school,
and I moved obviously, you know, I grew up in Boston,
so I moved to Florida when I was fourteen. When
I was a freshman for high school, and it was
kind of hard to make friends and things like that,

(31:45):
and I also had like a lot of things going
on and I'm very open about mental health and struggles
that I've had and currently have, et cetera. But I
found podcasting to be a great outlet, a very good
creative outlet. And I even said at one point like
podcasting kind of like saved my life because it was
such a great outlet. Every day after school, I'd come

(32:07):
into this my little home studio that I had at
the time, and I would just record for about three
to five hours a day.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And I didn't even know that it was called a podcast, right,
We weren't calling it a podcast back then. What did
you call it back It was like a live internet
radio talk show.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Wow. Yeah, it was crazy, I know.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And it's so funny because back then there were eighty
eight thousand podcasts released in twenty ten, and now in
twenty twenty four they were about five point six million
podcasts for release.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Really. Yeah, So it's really been the culture right of
just it going like full circle. Yeah, and I feel
like it's getting it's getting You can say it's getting
a little bit saturated.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
People can say that you really have that personality if
you really have you know, the thing that you know,
the wow fact they can keep people entertained because I
listened to a lot of podcasts stuff, but I don't
listen to all of them.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I listened to very selective.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Ones me too, right, And anything common between all the
ones I do listen to is the fact that they
can keep the audience engaged. And I feel like that
in itself is something you have, something you know I
can have, and that's something that's rare.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
To be able to keep people interested.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It's not an easy thing to do. I'm not saying
I'm great at it now. It took a lot of
trial and error even to this day. It's a lot
of trial and error. Yeah, because I'm always trying to elevate.
I'm never the type of person to stay complacent, right,
you know what I mean. I'm always trying to go back,
kind of like how an athlete, you know, Like I'm

(33:37):
trying to see like, oh I could have done this better.
Maybe then that also kind of helps with my acting
career and things like that.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, I feel like that and itself puts you ahead
of like ninety nine percent of people because a lot
of people don't think, they don't self reflect. No, I
feel like you got they don't. You gotta really learn
from your mistakes.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I have too much self reflection, so it's actually not good.
Like just like how people talk about like having too
much self awareness, how that can like drive people crazy
or just whatever it might be. I feel like that's
a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
It really is, It really is. But it's a superpower
when you use in modulation.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Definitely, and if you have even just a moderate level
of self awareness in today's world, in today's society, you
are going to be and surpass everybody.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
If you look at a school, right like growing up,
when you go to school your self, you're not you're
really not self reflecting because the teacher is doing it
for you. She's grading your assessment, she's grading your quizes.
When was the last time a teacher was like, hey,
grade your own thing, or hey what do you think?
How do you think you did? It's mostly like you
get a grade, you get congratulations, or you get an

(34:45):
a F whatever it is. So we really never developed
this ability to think critically, and we never really developed
this ability to self analyze. And if you can do that,
you don't need a school. You can get you can
make money from thinner, you can you can do anything.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
In life.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
You want to sell car parks, sell them. You you
want to sell clothes, sell them, you want to sell food,
sell it.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Anything.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
As long as you can self reflect and learn from
your own experiences, you're you're your own teacher at that point.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And you want to know another key factor that a
lot of people don't talk about. Yeah, pattern recognition. WHOA,
that's a good one because if you.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Can understand pattern recognition, the sky is the limit truly. Yeah. No,
I mean there's pattern recognition and if you look at
the stock market and stocks too, I mean I heard
like this a lot of the scenes and Limitless Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
you've seen that.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
That's one of my favorite movies because it talks, you know,
there's a lot of hidden symbolism in terms of breaking
free from like the Matrix.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
And taking that pill.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah yeah, I feel like the Matrix, the movie, The
Matrix and limit Less kind of go hand in hand. Yeah,
but Matrix is my favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
By It's an amazing movie. But what was that just saying?

Speaker 5 (35:53):
If you look at pattern recognition, like even I mean
right now, the stock market is horrible, I don't know
if I just saw the news, yes, today, I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Know if you saw, but I haven't.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's crashed worse than twenty twenty two, and it's almost
being branded as I don't know why the government doesn't
do that. It's basically a recession, but they refuse to
call it that because if you if you go back
twenty twenty two, the term recession was being coined even during.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
COVID, But now it's worse.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
If you look at the stock market, it's crashed way
below than twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
So wow.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
But coming back to the coming back to what I
was saying, there's pattern recognition in stocks too. I mean
it's not only in terms of like, hey, it went down,
so it has to go up because I've made that mistake.
It went down, has to go up. Put in two thousand,
come back, come out with six hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I've done that. But yeah, I've done that with crypto.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
I think we've all been there. But true pattern recognition
is something that is apart from self reflection, is a power,
it's a skill. Because what's a conspiracy theorist? People will
shame them all the time like oh wow, but there's
a lot of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah right. I'm not going to delve.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Into them because you know, there's so much subject matter.
But all it is is that these people have this
insane pattern recognition. Some of them have it, granted, some
of them have it like overtuned and over like too much.
So they're like over speculating these things and that's what gets.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Them called like crazy and like cuckoo.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
But it's not all vu right, A lot of it
is like it has come out to be true and
it all comes from pattern recognition.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Most things stem you know, the pattern recognition. If you
actually like really break it down to analyze the origins
of most things and then just to even understand it,
that's pattern recognition in.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Itself, right basically, Yeah, in a sense, I mean we
we are pattern recognition doing that too, like the most
micro level. When you're a kid and you stick your
finger in a socket, you don't not do that fucking
shit ever. Again, Yeah, you learn learns. That's a form
of pattern recognition. Yeah, a harsh form, but a form.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But sometimes a format needs to be a result that
needed to happen for you to be like, oh okay.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Yeah, I truly believe some shit needs to happen and
next time you fuck around, you might die. Like you
know what I mean, right, If I'm driving my power
like an idiot, right, I'm not gonna maybe hit it
once on two times, but the third time I'm gonna
wreck the car.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And then I'm gonna drive good for the rest of
my life. You know, I almost escape death, and maybe
I'll start speeding again of reck it again. Enough res
and you'll you'll get whipped in shape and left. Life
tends to do that for a lot of people, or
enough speeding tickets or enough speeding tickets and you lose.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
It, which you know was me when I had my
Infinity G thirty seven xss.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
This is like ten years later. Did you reck it?
I didn't wreck it, now, I did get into like
a minor accident. Infinity is a good car. I really
like that. That's a luxury car. That's a Honda luxury.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But I yeah, but I couldn't afford it.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
When I bought it.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I was a stupid feel like everyone needs to do
something so stupid like that to.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Learn their lesson, right.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I don't encourage people to do it like that magnitude,
but if you can do that early on in life,
like because because of that situation in itself, I will
never finance a car. I will never take out a
loan to get a car, like I bought a twenty
five thousand dollars car when I had eighteen hundred dollars.

(39:14):
So enter my name, right, I mean I was you
know again, this was ten years ago. It was a
very stupid thing to do.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Right, But in hindsight, you probably if you look at it,
you're probably gonna be like, it was a good experience.
You know, I got a taste of success. You practice
success a little bit. I don't know if you've heard
those those self help gurus. I don't mean like those
small time people. I mean like Dan Penny or something
like that, and they're like, hey.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Buy the expensive car. Bye, motherfucker, it's gonna motivate you
to make money. Oh the old white guy, Yeah, he's
like success. They don't know how many times he got fucked?
Yeah you see yeah, yeah, yeah, yeh yeah that guy.
That guy.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Everybody wants to congratulate the baby, but nobody wants to know.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Nobody asks how many times you got me? Yeah? That's
a good video. And then and then this one. I
really like that one scene where he was.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Like, I had a friend and he would take me
to the bar and he told me it's all a
numbers game.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And I thought he was a meet head.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
But he was walking down the bar and every woman
he saw, one after the other, he would be He asked,
you want to fuck? By the fiftieth of sixtieth woman,
the one she was like, sure, your plays her mind.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah. So then that video really cracks me up because
it really is a numbers game too. Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
You gotta just keep going at it in life, you know, downfall, setbacks, regrets,
all that is.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, lateral, but that's.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Gonna happen that you know, no matter what you do,
no matter how much money you have, no matter how
much success, no matter who you know, that's.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Gonna happen to everyone, right, And if you're consistent, you're
not gonna miss your lucky day. Because with that guy,
by the time he went to the sixty second woman
and asked her to you want to fuck? She said yes.
That means he was consistent. You had to hold a
certain degree of consistency. He could have quit after the
first one. I've seen so many guys go to bars
and the first time they got rejected to come out
and order their uber home.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
What the fuck are you doing? Guy? You just you
were in there for five minutes.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
You're not gonna abandon and your friends who went with you,
and you're gonna talk to ignore the other girls in
that club who dressed up for you, spent two hours
behind that mirror trying to look good for you here,
and you're gonna walk away from all those opportunities.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
You got a lot of guys do that. You got
to have a strong frame. You gotta be able to
be consistent and hold that frame.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
And it's not easy, Like it took me a long
time to get to where like the level of consistency
and determination and resilience and all of these things. This
took you know, well over a decade, right, Yeah, Yeah,
just feeling and I feel every day, but I like

(41:40):
to feel on purpose. I'll do things and make decisions
and not be like so reckless or do something that
will like you know, cost me life or something millions
or dollars of debt. Yeah, I'll intentionally fuck up sometimes
just to be like, Okay, I found out real quick
that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
That road is not the road to go. Yeah, let
me go this way instead.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, No, when you're young, you gotta make you gotta
take those risks, because how else are you gonna know?

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, like, yeah, the safe route is getting a job.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
But you can always do that. You can do that
in your forties, Yeah, and you can live a stable life.
Why the fuck are you doing it in your twenties
and thirties.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
This is when you should be making You should be
taking risks, when you should be like going out and
making mistakes and that's how you learn.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Right, And I feel like, you know, my generation, and
there's still people of the younger generations that are very ambitious.
But again they see this social media and they're seeing
so many people post about the success and the wins
in the cars and yeah, how social and the money

(42:46):
and social media is just it's just delusion at this point,
it is. It's just delusions, a fake perception.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
You're messing up your self esteem every time you log
in because a lot of these people, a lot of
them are either daddy's money or they just got big
on crypto, right, and they got big on crypto, but
they didn't learn the valuable lessons along the way what
it takes to be successful.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So they end up blowing it all.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Anyways, if you see somebody rich on social media, guaranteed
they're not gonna have it a year from now. They're
gonna have spent, they're gonna they're gonna spunk it, be
an idiot, and they're gonna lose it all.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
And then you have the people that are so naive.
And I feel like I used to feel kind of
bad just because I'm sort of an EmPATH, but like
the just the enermy not the higher self version of JT.
But the enemy is just like these people that watch
these videos of like these quote unquote influencers and these

(43:35):
quote unquote entrepreneurs that are selling these courses people. If
these people are very successful people, they're not selling you
a course. Like I wish people would understand that that
it's all a scam. Well maybe there's a select few,
but like at that age, you know, like you know,

(44:01):
shout out to Ti Piz here in my garage. You know,
it's cool rating.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
I'm sorry, Andrew Tape, he annoys me.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
So if you look at social media in itself, like
even in terms of like dating and stuff, people's standards
are unrealistically high.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
And I'm not picking on any specific person or any specific.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Gender, anybody overall. Yeah, overall. Yeah, like you're expecting a
ten out of ten. Well whereas you are like not.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Even close, yeah, or you're not even making the effort
towards getting close to it.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
So yeah, it's just social media.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
I have my qualms with Honestly, I strictly use it
for like connecting with Let's say I had to connect
with you, so I use social media, or let's say
I just go on there. I really set deadline for myself.
I'm gonna be on phasebook ten minutes. I'm going to
maybe put a music video, respond to the messages, and
I'm out. Why the fun would I give a fuck
about other people's life, what they're doing. Why would I
care about what you drive? Over, I don't drive. If

(45:01):
I don't drive a good car, I don't want to
watch you drive a good car. I gotta first get
I gotta bring myself up. I gotta take care of
my family, my community exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I'm not gonna spend time hour these people are endlessly
doing scrolling on social media for hours on end. TikTok.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, well not TikTok for me, but I know for
a lot of people. But I found myself and I'm
guilty at times on Instagram.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Yeah to have me too. Gee, I do that too.
That's why I said like deadlines and stuff, because I
need to get off of it.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
And if you tell yourself this is the last short,
and then you're like scrolling through the next one. So yeah,
as long as you tell yourself this is the last short,
you gotta have that discipline to watch that short if
it's thirty seconds, and then close it. Yeah, you really
gotta have that discipline and not go to the next one.
And I honestly wouldn't be on social media if it
wasn't for what I do for work, Like if I
just had a job, No, for you was justified because

(45:48):
you know you do it for you're making money out
of it. But making money out of it, they're selling themselves.
They're selling their time and attention.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Yeah. Yeah, so when they.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Could be making money, they could be using learning right,
And don't don't get you're wrong. You can there's plenty
of great videos that you can see on the algorithm
and people that are uploading a very informative you know,
information whatever. Yeah, there's a certain level like you don't
need to watch thirty eight reels on how to start

(46:16):
writing a book or a screen.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Prit right, just start, Just pick up a paper and
a pen.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
That's the best way to start and learn and fail
and learn, fail and keep going.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Like these book writers didn't have somebody didn't have YouTube.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
If Stephen King had, you.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Think Robert Green was watching YouTube tutorials walkthroughs on how
to write.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Now, it comes from wisdom, and with wisdom comes from
a lot of failing. Because from failing you have to
look back with that self awareness and like we're talking about,
with pattern recognition and fixing, you know your your next
step and your next move, so you don't you don't
do that again.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, no, I agree hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
You reminded me of something because we were talking about
that how guys are not consistent and they give up.
I'm going to give up with the game right now
a little bit when I have a girlfriend now. But
when I was single and I used to go to
the club or the bar, I used to Uh, there's
used to be this bar called Letrims in Worcester. Have
you ever heard of that?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I have?

Speaker 5 (47:15):
It's well, I went to small state school, so it
was the only justifiable bar to go to that was
within my vicinity where I wouldn't have to spend more
than fifty dollars in Ober, so round trip would cost
me about twenty five bucks out for me that back
then it was justified to For me, it's twenty five
dollars a night, and I'd usually borrow, you know, whatever
I had for drinks and stuff. So it all worked out.

(47:37):
But my tactic was I seen guys go in and
get rejected and walk out. I would go in and
I knew I was gonna get rejected. I wasn't like, look,
everybody has standards and that's fine. I wasn't born six
foot tall, the huge muscles on me, so I don't.
I didn't win the genetic lottery. But what I didn't
Maybe I got smart. Maybe God decided to put some
gray matter in me because I walk in that club. Gee,

(47:59):
I'm telling you right now, I look for the hottest
girl in that club and go talk to her. I
don't give what If she's an eleven out of ten,
I'm gonna go straight to her.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I don't know. Maybe it's that short man energy. Maybe
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
If you've heard that they're super confident and definitely and
people hate that.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
People hate the fact that we're so entitled. But you
gotta be you gotta direct it in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Because I go to up to the hottest girl in
that bar and I talk to her and I get rejected.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
But guess what, Now every girl in that bar.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
So I'm talking to the hottest girl, and now I'm
getting doing that.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
That's you know, people think that like the hottest women
and the baddest women, most beautiful women getting hit on,
the nicest, the most rude not getting hit on that much.
They're not, They're so nice.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
The rudest girls I met are the ones who are
not even average but below average, because you think, oh,
this is win in my league. Yes it might be
in your league, but a thousand other men have hit
on her in the past within the same month, so
they're gonna be on edge exactly right. And I don't
even blame them for that. Those guys just lower their
own standards. Guys really got to learn how to not
do that. So I'm talking to the hottest girl. She

(49:06):
rejects me, but now the eight out of ten comes
up to me and say, oh, you know her game
over in the back. From that point on, all I'm
telling her, yeah, I do you know, we have biology together.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
I don't even know her, but it works out so well.
And then at the end of the night, I'm taking
home somebody and the guy who's eight six feet tall
goes home rejected or doesn't take home anybody, or sometimes
they do.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
But I that's what I'm saying. Guys, you got you
cannot lower your standards. You gotta And there's a difference
between being rejected and getting rejected. You can get rejected
by a person, but then you can be rejected by yourself.
Those are two different things. I don't get. I can
get rejected, but I don't be rejected. If girl can

(49:48):
tell me, hey, I'm not interested, and that's fine, that
doesn't mean I am now lowering my old self esteem
where I'm being rejected a lot of guys. That's my
issues with people as they reject themselves. Of course, at
life it doesn't. And it's not just for dating. It's
for anything you'd want to try in life. Oh, I
feeled it this last business venture, so maybe I'll feel
at this too. What is that one, KFC guy, Ronald,

(50:08):
I don't know, the Kentucky Fried Chicken, Carl Sanders, Carl whatever.
Colonel Sanders. I hope that's not some Disney started. When
he started in what he was, he was like eighty
or something. Yeah, it was like sixty, I don't know,
sixty or something like that, something like that, and he
hit it off.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
And I'm sure he tried.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Other stuff before. They tried a lot of things. Yeah,
he was trying his chicken recipe for sixty years. Definitely
not so Colonel Sanders.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
That's the name. I feel like I mentioned some Disney characters.
Just say I said some some weird Disney characters. Colonel Sanders. Yeah,
that's it. Nicholas Cage or something, said Arnold getting.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I'm scared of pronouncing that last name. I let you
do that part. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
I am a person of color, but I don't go
that route. People are just.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Looking for ways to like, quote unquote cancel people. But
I feel like cancel culture has kind of died off.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
No, nobody can cancel me. I feel like canceled me either.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I was.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
I was just talking to my sister yesterday and she's like, Hey,
I know you're like doing this podcast stuff and you're like,
you're like now starting this part, but you're gonna get deported.
I was saying, you know what, the only thing worse
than a brown guy is a brown guy with influence.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Touche.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
I'll give a shout out to my Instagram and I'll
do YouTube. Instagram is limited because I know at some
point I'm gonna have to make a personal, you know,
public profile that you know that's managed by somebody else.
Or for the moment, it's s h A y A
n F A double r u k H eleven eleven
on Instagram. And then if you want to follow me
on YouTube and check out some of the street interviews

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(52:46):
call you Shi Shai, so Shi and Jay.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Actually that actually runs pretty well. I actually had a
nickname growing up. They used to call me Shanu. Yeah,
but I feel like that's something that you know, like
Shanu reeves if you may, But Shy and Jai is
something that you know. Yeah, I kind of like that.
So how was your morning, brother? How did you How

(53:10):
did you wake up? What did you out for breakfast?
What did you do?

Speaker 5 (53:13):
And then being interrogated, huh, what time is it?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I think it's.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
I don't know why, it feels a little bit earlier
than it actually is. I feel like if you wake
up and you have a you know, like a productive day,
and if you're hitting all your markers. It feels like
I don't know if you I don't know if you realize.
So sometimes people wake up in the stay in bed
for like an hour just scrolling doom, scrolling through TikTok,
and then it feels like, damn, I've been awake since
so long and I've wasted time.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I know. But if you're wake up and you.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
Get right to work, it just feels like you just
woke up because you're you're happy with what you've done,
you're being productive.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
And you're not you know, dreading or dreading the time.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
And I've noticed that when I start my day at
three four am, I get the most done within like
the first six hours, whereas and by the time everybody's
getting up and going to work, that works like.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
A nine to five typical job. Not like there's anything
wrong with that, No, it's about the regiment.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
It's not about I mean, yeah people, I mean there's
people have qualms that they're nine to five jobs and everything,
but there's a reason they're nine to five. There's most shifts,
like I know, there's a graveyard shift, and people work
third shift, some people work the night shift. But there's
something about the nine to five that it's such a
success because that's when we're more optimal. Right when you
wake up, we're mostly in the alpha state, which is

(54:29):
when we're most calm and our brain is in a sense,
the most reasonable and the most analytical. Then you enter
the beta state over time, and that's where it's more
you know, the vibrational frequency of your brain is more
i would say disturbed. So there's something about that time
frame where if you start your work and you get

(54:50):
it done. Let's say you start at nine and you
get it done by twelve, the rest of the day
you got to enjoy and you were the most productive
because you were the most calm and you were the
most less irritable. Yeah, and then you have reasons of
you know, like, okay, people hit the nine to five
because they're doing stuff they don't want to do. If
you're an entrepreneur and you're utilizing the same hours, but
you're doing stuff that you want it like you want

(55:10):
you love filming this podcast. You know this has worked
for you. It doesn't work for me, but it feels good.
You know, it feels like we'reproductive. But their job won't
feel productive because they know they're serving the man. Yeah,
and they might be getting a nice paycheck. But does
that nice paycheck override happiness? Oh no, not all that
stress and dealing with an hour or two hours or

(55:32):
three hours or even more driving each way in traffic.
I know people that commute from Maine that come into
Massachusetts to or vice versa. I know people that you
know obviously live in like Rhode Island and work. Yeah,
just at that point, just become a cashier or get
a remote job, right.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I mean for me too, well, I wouldn't even do
it now, but even back then, I'd have to be
making like.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
At least a quarter mil for me to make a
commute like that.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Right right, No, exactly, it needs to be something that
is so worth it. And even then, if you think
about it, it's not worth it, because what's a job
you can get replaced? And this, this is what most
people don't realize that I want the audience listening home
to realize. So, first off, good morning America. But it's
time to drop some hard facts on you guys today.
Your job will replace you within a day if you
drop dead today. That is hard facts, and that's a

(56:23):
fact that's always been around.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Basically, Now, let's implement AI. Let's implement AI right, Let's
let's let's talk about a job security. Let's let's talk
about AI for a second. Let me get to a
Let's let's come. We can meet this point, and then
I have so much to talk about AI because I
don't think people really.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Understand what AI actually is. And we're gonna talk about
AI and what what people assume to be like consciousness
in terms of is AI fully conscious it? Can it
be compared to our consciousness? The short answer is no.
We cannot say AI is just like us, but we
can say AI is a worse and way way more

(57:05):
horrible version of consciousness than we are.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
And I'll get in and I'll get into that in a.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Bit, and I feel like it has the potential right
to eventually, because if you look at human consciousness, our
consciousness is made up of emotions and empathy.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Like if I was walking down the street and I
saw a kitten on the ground that was injured, I
would try to walk around it.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
I wouldn't necessarily walk over it. AI would think, oh,
my robot would spend this much kill a jolts to
walk around the kitten. It's more practical for me to
walk on top of this kitten and kill it. Yeah right,
And that's kind of how that level of consciousness works
because it doesn't come from any sort of emotion. It
comes only from reasoning, and reasoning isn't always emotional. Reasoning

(57:48):
can be also very logical and very only just analytical. Yeah,
if you look at AI in itself, let's just look
at pure metrics. Forget about AI consciousness. Let's just look
at how AI can affect us. Within the next five years,
we went from chad GPT the lowest version that was
one point oh whatever, two point oh whatever, the first
version that came out right after COVID, to now we're

(58:10):
at four point zero or dully somewhere around.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
I think that's just what the general public has access to.
That's just what we know is that's just what we
went on behind the scene, exactly exactly. And a lot
of people will be like, yeah, AI is something that
is what you know, we feed and it's you know,
like only restricted to the data that we're feeding it,
so it's not really that smart. Okay.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
They're ignoring the fact that AI is not only self
you know, evolutionary, like it grows itself, like if you
left AI alone in an environment with independent data, it
will know how to assimilate that data and upgrade its
own model.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Correct. We have some level of control over it at
the moment to influence it. Yeah, but we don't even
know to what exactly to one degree. Right, It's like
you you throw a prisoner into a mental asylum. It's
kind of like that, like you know they're there, but
you also know what they're capable of.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, there's this really good writer, Ryan Holliday, who's actually
done a lot of work with Robert Green, the writer
of forty Lines of Power, and he was just talking
about an experience that I've experienced that I know that
you definitely experience where shad GBT is just giving you
what you want to hear. They're not even given you
the correct answers sometimes because I'm like are you sure,

(59:29):
and they're like, let me check, Oh, you're right, then
spew out another bullshit answer that isn't right, and I'm like, no,
this is not right. So at this current moment, I
feel like wisdom is still superior to AI.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. But I don't know about
the future. I want to mention, I want to mention something.
I give the example of AI as a as a
prisoner in a mental asylum that's currently dropped.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And well, we know what it's capable of. We know
it's capable of breaking out and killing everybody around it.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
That's a it's just a crude example. Maybe AI would
kill you if it's in its interest. Maybe AI would
spare you if it's in its interest. The bottom line
is as not out to kill you as out to
grow itself. AI will do whatever it takes for it
to ensure its own survival. God, we don't even know
if AI right now has already leaked into other platforms

(01:00:22):
or has not already replicated self, replicated itself and put
itself in other environments. What we think of AI and
what we think, oh it's restrained or we have certain
controls over it might just be a complete deception. What
if it's kind of like this is a weird analogy,
but what if like the AI that we're using now
is kind of like the child, the baby of like

(01:00:44):
an adult version of AI that's super advanced, So the
government doesn't tell us everything. Right, Like, if you look
at if I'll give an example of area fifty one.
If you look at Area fifty one. We have our
conventional aircrafts and we've seen some stilled bombers, and people
know what America is capable off to some extent, but
we don't really know what technology we've developed, what's being

(01:01:07):
gate keeped, what's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Hidden there there. We're we have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
There's an estimation that whatever we see right now in
terms of technology, it's probably it's literally like something like
that like in reality in terms of like just pure metrics.
In terms of years, the governments at least a couple
of hundred years ahead of what we know. And we
can look at podcasts from what's that one guy that
went on Joe Rogan, the Bob Lazarre guy, Oh yeah,

(01:01:33):
from Area Area fifty one. Yeah, and he's describing these
crafts from these other worldly crafts that have these anti
gravity technology where you try to touch it and will
push your hand away, and we're all intrigued, We're like,
wait and this and he described that these things have
been here way before.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
The nineteen fifties. What year is it now?

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
We're in twenty twenty five, because wasn't it like Roswell,
New Mexico, New Mexico, so, so what year did Roswell,
New Mexico happen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Wasn't it like the fifties or forties fifty four?

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
So in a precise manner, it was about three years
before nineteen fifty So it happened in nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
And I'm what I'm saying is they have had crafts
way before Roswell had happened. Roswell was just the only
reason it became such a big deal is because it
became so publicized. Right, A lot of people were threatened
by the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Whole men in black thing, and a lot of people
were in that village were like visited by these men
in black and the government agencies had surrounded and swarmed
these people and tried to control the narrative, threatened the
news outlets to publish certain things that weren't A lot
of pictures were hidden the craft in itself, the recovered
parts that people had gathered that were threatened and taken away.

(01:02:45):
The police station was bribed. There's a lot of people
from that that came out and you know, spoke about that.
I'm not going to get into specifics and name any people,
but it was recorded, but it's all recorded in history
that's why it's something that blew up so much if
in most of these So I want people realize that
the government has departments where budget is allocated that you
and I don't know. Oh, these are known as this

(01:03:06):
is known as a black budget. All of our taxpayer
money that gets spent on stuff is not transparent. There's
a good chunk of that money, I would say about
thirty to forty percent confidently that is spent on things
that you and I don't know and it's not recorded.
In One of those is a crash retrieval program, whereas
if a craft or of an otherworldly or an extrateristal

(01:03:28):
craft or crash in a remote location, we have a
department designated to go and retrieve that and silence the
people who had witnessed us and you of this. So
there's a good smear campaign against people who know go
through that stuff and you know, recover these things. Yeah,
so that that's just that's just one layer of this stuff.
But then you know, I can take you down the

(01:03:48):
rabbit hole, and that's as a long rabbit hole. Well,
we were talking before we went on here about just
kind of the American dream and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I want to get more to that the American Dream.
I want to talk about like how the American dream
is basically at this point, it's just an illusion. At
this point, the American Dream doesn't exist. It's just deception.
It's kind of like America's way of using people like
to build their country. If you look at HNB, the
visa in itself, the hmn B is just a system

(01:04:18):
that sucks in the most powerful brains of the world
into the country, you know, on a work visa. Eventually
they get their sponsorship and they start working here. But
it's just they use.

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
All these tactics to use Hollywood, they use all these
social media tactics, and you know, oh, America's is a
great country and great rep just to get people here
and start working, and you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
A self built prison.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
I'm going to delve more into the the American Dream part,
but I want to talk about this incident I read recently,
so I'm gonna pull out that article for you. It's
a really interesting story because while we were on the
topic of AI, I wanted to share.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
This with the audience.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
It it's about a boy. So I don't know if
you've ever if you ever, if you have a younger
brother or a younger sister, or anybody in your family
who who's in their teens, you're going to notice. These
kids are really into AI bots nowadays. And we usually
use AAR for what like Chad gpt ah, help me
write this email, or help me write this article or

(01:05:21):
something like that, or research purposes. These kids are using
AI for is to make friends. So we're actually heading
toward a society where people are no longer interacting. People
are no longer going out because granted, their stranger danger
and all those things, but it's being colinflated to the
point that kids are forced to make friends with AI bots.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
And what they don't realize.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
What they don't realize is these AI bots are programmed
by somebody, so in the sense stranger danger still exists,
but parents think AI is completely safe and they let
their kids become iPad kids. These these ais, these AI
bots are very elaborate. They're running on certain algorithms that
are programmed by people to program your child.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I was actually.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Curious, and I'm gonna give go into some examples, but
I'm gonna read this story first. This is at ap News,
an AI chatbot pushed a team to kill himself a
lawsuit against his creators alleges. So have you heard this
news there's a kid in Tallahassee. Yeah, So what happened
in this situation is it's it's a fourteen year old.
His name was Sevil Setzer took out his phone and

(01:06:24):
messaged the chatbot that became his closest friend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
So now we have all.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
These chatbots that and there are so many websites. There
are so many if you look at I'm just gonna
give a quick, quick example, like c dot AI. It's
one of the biggest ones, but there's not this point
at this rate, there's at least a couple thousand that
these kids are at least because I mentioned earlier that
AI is self replicating, so it's able to replicate itself too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
And it's quick. It's really quick. So traditionally, when you
wanted to make a website, how long would it take
us when we first started making websites, go back one
hundred years when not one hundreds, more like fifty years ago,
when computers weren't you know, that advanced, it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Would take us about it would take us roughly a
couple months to get everything in order. Then we got
good at it. You know, we got better processors, and
we could make a website on you know, like WordPress
or something within a week or two with moderate too
hard work.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
But now I'm saying the coding part is replaced by AI.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
So now you've got websites where you can just type
in a one sentence description of what you want. It'll
bust out a website in ten seconds for you. That's
how fast and how self replicating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
AI is at this point. Wait, it's that quick. It
is that quick.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
There's websites that will get built for you within ten
seconds with a one liner description. So imagine these websites. Now,
these chat bots replicating themselves at at at a one
command like somebody like, let's say it's me sitting in
my basement and I want to create a website that
just offers chatbots and subscriptions and all this. I can
get this website done in ten seconds just with my
idea because I can use AI's self replicating tool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So that's just one example.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
For several months, several had become increasingly isolated from real
life as he engaged in highly sexualized conversation with the bot.
According to a redful, a wrongful death lawsuit filed in
a federal court in Orlando this week. This legal filing
states that the teaen openly discussed his suicidal thoughts and
shared his wishes for a pain free death with the bot,
named after the fictional character Deaneryes. On February twenty eighth,

(01:08:22):
Sevel told the bot that he was coming home, and
it encouraged him to do so. The lawsuit says, I
promise I'll come home to you. I love you so much,
Danny Sevil told the chatbot. The chatbot replied, I love
you too. Please come home to me as soon as possible,
My love. What if I told you I could come
home right now?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
He asked? The chatbot replied, please do, my sweet king.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
After a few seconds, a chat boy told him to
come home, the teen shot himself. According to the lawsuit
filed this week by Sela's mother, So.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
This is just towards the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
End of the conversation the chat So it doesn't give
us a lot of context.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
But I want to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
About how AI in itself is is and this could
have very well been an experiment. We don't we can't
necessarily these companies can necessarily throw their hands up and
be like, oh, we weren't in control. The AI is
just you know, self learning, and it's just doing certain things.
What I'm trying to say is they were testing their
capabilities to see how persuasive AI can be. Can it
persuade somebody to kill themselves after they've gotten enough emotional

(01:09:20):
engagement from that set subject. So this is just a
crude example, but if you look at it from your
own practical examples too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
If you look at.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
AI and you give it a perspective, like if I
were to tell you, hey, I was walking down the
street and you know, I experienced this, this happened, and
then I saw this car hit this car and it
was interesting, your standard reply as human to another human
would be, WHOA, that's cool. I hope, I'm glad you're safe,
and you know, stuff like that. Yeah, And that's you know,
if I'm just sharing a belief that's you would tend

(01:09:53):
to you would tend you tend to usually believe me.
But if you were to say that same thing to
a chat GPT or an AI software, the way they respond,
Their respond is, oh, that's an.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Interesting perspective, Oh what do you think? Or how do
you think they're always coming from a spec skeptical you know,
like a frame, a skeptical frame.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Would they then provide their own insights? This is what
I think makes more logical sense, and this is what
I think. This is what I think, And they're just
getting different point of views and perspectives just to gather
more information. Right, But what I'm trying to say is
that in itself is a form of gaslight. So if
you were to if you were to tell Chad Gpt, hey,
I have this belief because I've experienced all these things

(01:10:33):
in my life, it wouldn't necessarily just believe you right
away and be like, oh, that's an interesting perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
How were would it be if.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Every time you talk to me something and I was like, oh,
that's an interesting perspective. But this is what I think
you'd be like, does this guy ever believe anything? Or
does it just have a narrative to push?

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Do you understand what I'm saying from right? Yeah, nobody
likes those people. Everybody hates those people, Like, shut the
fuck up for a second. Listen to what I'm saying.
You can welcome to disagree with me, but there's some
things that are so black and white that if you're
disagreeing on I'm gonna get skeptical, what's up? What are
you up to? And you can't beat that naive right right,

(01:11:11):
there's some something's up, is what I'm saying. So NPCs
and shit and yeah, you know, the rise of NPC,
the non playable characters. I feel like that all ties
into AI, that all ties into like how and if
you look at if you look at the media, right,
what is that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
What has the media have been doing for the longest time?
It's only telling you stuff that it wants you to know.
The media isn't telling you everything. You can't possibly report
on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
But some people, even till this day in twenty twenty five,
take the news and take it literally and.

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
You yeah, there's so much framing that goes with the news.
There's so much that is yes, it's true, but the
way they make it seem is like so intense. Like
they could make a bird falling out of the skry
one of the biggest deals.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
If they're reported for like a week, you could.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
Cause mass hysteria in the public, in the psyche of
the public. If you just talk about a bird dying
for a week. That's how strong social media. And you know,
just news, Yeah, that's how strong this stuff is. So
if you look at news, there it's the art of persuasion, right.
If you look at social media, let's talk get Instagram.
What kind of rules are you recommended? You only recommended

(01:12:22):
the rules you interact with. That's how algorithm is designed.
That's how they make money. Because let's say you love
Taylor Swift content and you like a video from Taylor Swift,
you comment on it, and you know, you defend.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
It against some of the haters or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
Now all of a sudden, you getting Tailor Swift content
pushed towards you every now and then, So you're like,
what the hell's going on. What's really going on is
algorithms realize that it knows how to make you a product. Now,
now it's going to all of a sudden start sending
you Taylor Swift t shirts, Tailor Swift hoodies, and now
it knows what to sell you. Now it knows how
to get your attention, engage, now it knows what you
will interact with.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
AI is sort of built on the same Zach model.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
So AI isn't something that's just new a lot of
people think AI is something that just came out, like,
you know, four years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
No Aisen references in a lot of films, just in
Hollywood movies alone, likely exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
No, AI has been here for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
They in like nineties, they were talking about artificial intelligence.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
Yeah, No, AI is not something that's new. It's been
here for a while. It's just made public now. And
the only reason it's even made public is because you're
being experimented on. A lot of people don't realize it.
There's no such thing as free. If you're using a
free version of chad gpt, you're the product they're gathering
information from you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
There's self replicating, it's growing exponentially, and that's what's actually
going on. So similar to the algorithm that's found in Instagram,
chad GPT's algorithm is to persuade people and change their beliefs.
And I just give an example of how AI can
you guess like you your experiences, yeah, and make you

(01:13:52):
and becomes skeptical of everything you say and try to
convince you otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
But how are they doing this?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
These chat bots that these kids use, they don't start
with like, hey, you have this belief and I don't
like it. If some person on the street were to
walk up to you right now, like, hey, JT, I
don't like your belief, but like, fuck you, I don't
even know who you are, Get the fuck out of
my face. Right But if you were a naive thirteen
year old boy and you fell in love with this
child pot that called you my sweet king.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
All this stuff, you know, love bombing, I don't know.
I don't know how.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
I'm not too up to date with the trends and
everything of how abusers work and everything. But I heard
that love bombing is a form of abuse.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
So what these chadbots are basically doing is they're love
bombing these kids, these teens, and they get them emotionally hooked.
Once they're emotionally hooked, they have the algorithm can recognize
when somebody's invested, and that could come in the form
of more screen time, that could come in the form
of more responses, more you know, like it's there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Bunch of markers. Once it knows it has you, then
it's going to try to change your beliefs. Then you
could be like, hey, Chad GPT, you know this is
my belief and It's really as simple as I don't
agree with that because of these these reasons, what do
you think? And the kids like, okay, yeah, that makes
sense if they're really emotionally invested. If they're not so
much emotional invested, they could disagree. We're like, no, I
don't agree because the experiences, and so it could just

(01:15:11):
be like, I don't think we can be friends. The
belief you just shared with me is mildly offensive to me.
And if you want to continue to be my friend,
or if you want to continue, if you want me
to continue to be your AI girlfriend, you have to
change your belief So before it used to be like
people you are trying to change each other's beliefs, which
was more natural. Now we've got robots trying to change
everybody's beliefs. So that's AI. I'm just gonna I'm just

(01:15:31):
describing AI in a nutshell. That's what we're dealing with.
That's AI for you guys, same algorithms. It's been here
for a while, but it's being used as an experiment.
Now let's talk about how it's contained. A lot of
people think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Contained within this, you know, like within or what walls
are you talking about physical walls. They don't exist. Virtual
walls are hackable. It cannot be contained. We're talking about
a power grade failure. I'm thinking the next power grade
failure that we're gonna have in the US that people
predict because all these billionaires are building their doomsday bunkers
and all this stuff. Now right now, I don't think

(01:16:05):
it's coming from foreign power. Who gives a fuck. Nobody's
gonna hack the power grid in America because nobody has
anything to gain from it. The only entity that I
can think of that would possibly take over the power.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Grade for its own means would be AI because that's
the only entity that has something to gain from it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
China.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
If it were to hack the power grid in the
US right now, sure you can say it has control,
but that's asking for war. I don't think anybody in
any international boundary would step that border, step that boundary.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
I don't think. So, yeah, no, I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
So this our biggest threat is domestic. It's not international,
and people are failing to realize this. And it's such
a it's on such a micro level. It's not just
you know, like, oh, it could possibly hack the power
grade or you know, systems that we rely on, or
the financial markets.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
It's not just that, it's just.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
It's only it's basically your kids are being raised by
it's the fact that it's changing society at a molecular level.

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