On Air With JT

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:48):
For the people that are listening right now. We met
what thirty minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, it's been about maybe thirty I just literally just
walked through his front door. Yeah, and it was a
little bit because you know, it's my first time meeting
this guy too. And it says no truspassing on the
front door, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Like, see, you see it. But all these motherfuckers that
are live down the street or live down that street,
they don't. They just don't give a fuck. They're like, oh,
no trespassing, Okay. I guess that means it's opposite day.
Let me go through the yard and let me like
destroy property. Happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
As the government itself would say, ignorance of law is
no excuse. In this case, I think they are ignoring law.
Maybe their intentions are to trustpass.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, and that's not okay because if not, they're gonna
have to deal with JT angry JT oh or an
annoyed JT. And that's something people do not want to deal.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I promise you guys don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So tell the people who you are, what you do,
Just kind of give them a little introduction.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, you know, I can give a standard introduction of
how I want people, you know, like how I introduce
myself and like family events and stuff, and then I
can give a formal introduction. So I feel like I'm
gonna go with two routes because it you know, people
can relate.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
So I'm a data scientist, you know, studied environmental science,
eventually got into computer science and you know, became a
data scientist's been doing that for a while. Cut to
the chase. I want to break out of the nine
and five. I've been doing podcasts and stuff for about
two years. I have a YouTube channel now where I
go out and do street interviews and stop, you know,
question the grain, and that's kind of what I've been

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trying to do. Recently. The nine to five has been
really getting to me, you know, sitting in the subway,
having sweaty balls all day and just not being able
to move and then you know, can't say certain things
so HR will fire you. So I feel like there's
light at the end of the tunnel. And for anybody
listening too wants to relate, I feel like, you know,
you can do it.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Definitely. The sky's the limit.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Absolutely, the sky's only the limit once you take your
head out of you know, your ass.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, trying to escape the matrix of society. So what
got you initially interested in podcasting.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Well, I started off as a singer, and you know,
I got a couple of good reviews and I was
actually gonna I was gonna show you those videos too,
when I was like, well, I don't know how that
would go. But and I got some good comments on
there and people were like, wow, you sound really good,
and I was like, wow, this feels good. Then I
got into street interviews. My first interview was on Saint Patrick.

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I was just going around Boston and I saw another
YouTuber actually in the Boston Common and he just came
up and he just he was just he just fucked
with me a little bit. He was like, Hey, have
you ever jerked off in class? And I'm like, he
was just trolling me. He had a sister recording game
and I was like, is this person for real? And
then I looked at his YouTube channel. He was bringing
an ad revenue about like I think. I think in

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one video he made like three grand. So I just
took his phone number and I was like, hey, like
I want to learn from you, and I just want
to be under your and I just want to say this,
like I feel like most people just want to directly
jump to like the role of like a boss or
a CEO, and most people don't know how to play
the role. And I really wanted to play.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I always say that, man, I always say that people
really we don't And there were times in my life
I'm not gonna lie where I was naive, And I
think we all are at one point, you know, starting off,
and whether it's being an entrepreneur or whatever it might be,
whatever aspect, there comes a certain time where you have
to have that self awareness and if you really are motivated,

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you know that dedication, that determination, and that ambition, you
have to know when to play your role right. Also,
like one of the great laws of the forty eight
Laws of Power by Robert Green Love that book Never
Outshine Your Master.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Love that book yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And I've done that and it never really ends.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well. Yeah, I mean you've got to be able to
listen to in order to learn to a certain degree, right,
you got to be able to listen to a certain degree.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Imagine meeting it on musk and telling him to shut
the fuck up while he's teaching you about money. Or
imagine you want to be a war level athlete and
you meet Mike Tyson and you're like, Mike, you're a pussy.
The level of arrogance that people have nowadays while they
say they want to escape the matrix and stuff like that, Like, bro,
first learn to be quiet and listen. But it's because
of social media, right, everybody wants to just jump the gun. Right.

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So I met this YouTuber and he showed me. He
was very transparent. He showed me his AdSense revenue on YouTube,
and I got really inspired and I was like, what
do I do? And first off, I wasn't. This is
not when I had a YouTube channel. This is just
I just saw his setup and he was like, Hey,
if you want to learn, just work with me. I'm
not going to pay you. Don't expect money because I'm broke,
you know. Because he spends it all on equipment and stuff,

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but come record for me. And I was like, sure,
I think I did about five to six episodes. His
name is Uri Shack if anybody wants to check out.
He's a local Boston YouTuber. But I went and did
about like five or six episodes for him, just recorded them,
just walking around the beat side stuff like that. And
I noticed this guy had a wireless microphone that was
plugged into his camera and clipped on the top of

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his camera, and then his microphone was plugged either as
a handheld or on his shirt. And I was like okay,
and I wrote down the microphone name, I wrote down
the camera name, went home and ordered mine, and that's
where my YouTube career started. So you know, you got
we all got to start somewhere, right, Well, it's all
about you look at a person and how he's achieved success,
and you just got to copy it. It's really that simple,
it really is. People try to reinvent the wheel. It's

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really just copying it.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with trying to reinvent the wheel.
That's strictly for people that are innovators or experienced, yeah,
and know what they're doing or even if you're not
experienced at least, if you're inexperienced, knowing going in, you're
gonna fail. And not only you're gonna feel, you're gonna
feel really fucking bad. Right right, You're gonna fall on
your face, right. I know.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm sure I'm gonna look at this podcast like ten
years from now, I'm gonna be like, Wow, that was cringe.
Why did I sound like? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I say that all the time. I can't even listen
to a lot of the interviews that I've done, especially
when I started interviewing a lot of like famous musicians, actors,
I started getting really nervous and like, looking back and
listening to those interviews, it's so fucking cringe. Man, it's
so bad. I have so much respect for these like

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big name people for like not being a dick about
it when I could have been. You know, they kind of.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Because they they've lived that life. They know what it's
like to be in those shoes.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, but a lot of them forget though, And That's
what I've encountered. And I mean they say, like, don't
meet your heroes. And there's been a lot of people
that I grew up like fans of bought their albums,
seeing them live, and then I you know, meet them
in person or on social media and we're talking or
on the phone and I'm like, wow, this person's really
an asshole.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, this person's Yeah, it's really like a temporary personally.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But there's also some people. I have to be transparent.
There are some people who are so fucking nice and generous,
and people that like are so well established in like Hollywood.
In my experience, there's been a few people along the
way where they've helped me, you know, not like giving
me work or opportunities for like do an interview podcast

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right when they don't have to come on on it
with JT. Like this isn't e news, This isn't you
know what I mean, It's isn't sixty minutes or whatever.
And I don't want to down play who I am
and what I've achieved. The point is they didn't have
to do that.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Right, I did it.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
And that's something I always respect and always will be,
you know, admire about them. And I never forget things
like that.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, and you'll you'll remember that. You'll feel like you
owe them a favor because they owed you one. Of course,
I'll always look up, they held you. And I feel
like I've encounquered certain people like that, but then I
haven't garden people who will make fun of you for trying. Right,
you just mentioned you were nervous with these celebrities, while
somebody on the internet might just be like, oh wow,
he was nervous. Okay, how many times have you sat

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with the celebrity exactly? Right? Like what color is your buguddy?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Exactly? And that's the thing. No one is ever going
to laugh at you or critique you, criticize you if
they haven't done and tried what you are doing. Those
are the people that are going to be talking the
most and laughing at you, criticize it. People that have
done it and that are successful. You know, they might
chuckle if you're an amateur, if you did something silly

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or something, but they're not going to ostracize you, criticize,
or put you down. He already went through that stage.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Bro. You just reminded me of a story I was
at this wedding, right, and we have we have an
entrepreneurial like family member. What he does is so simple, right.
He goes around two businesses and he asks them, how's
your awning? So for those who are listening who don't
know what awning is, an awning is like a vinyl
or almost like a plastic covering outside your door that

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prevents you from getting wet. So if you stand outside,
you in your doorstep and you're not getting wet, look
next time you're not getting wet and it's raining, Look up,
there's gonna be a plastic shade on top of you.
That's an awning. Okay, So this guy all he does,
he started going around and selling I didn't even know, well,
I didn't know until I met this guy. So he
was at this wedding and he's pushing lambows and stuff

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like most of the time. He's driving an M five
or something like that, like a BMW. So we were like,
you know, he's got the kids around him, like trying
to get in his car, tape pictures, you know, pretend
to be something they're not. It's funny, but everybody really
respects this guy. I've been that person. Everybody's been that person.
I noticed something in it, and I feel like I
noticed people's expressions a lot. I notice, you know, certain

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eye movements, how they twitch, and I read between the lines.
I really do that stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So it's important to being analytical. You have to be observed, Yeah,
because if you don't, it can cost you your life.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Right, Hey, that's also my job, so I've been trained
to but I feel like everybody should develop that muscle.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So there was a everybody was, you know, just like
checking pictures of his car, and he was halfway through
the wedding hall, like at the door entrance, and a
kid walked up to him and he was like, oh,
I heard you're very rich. And everybody just looked like,
why would you say that, like's a it's a weird
thing to say. And he was like, but I want
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Speaker 3 (13:09):
That goob I kid you. Not everybody around him here
laughed laughed. The only person that didn't laugh was that person.
Why is that because people usually laugh at people who try,
and he knew because he had that personality when he
was young. He probably he probably looked at somebody rich

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and was like, fuck you, I'm gonna make.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
All money than you.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I know you have, Yeah, I have right at But
the only person that wasn't laughing in that situation was
that guy exactly. So I was like, Wow, that says
something about his mindset because he took that kid seriously.
He didn't laugh in his face. He took him seriously.
He's like he took it as a challenge. I wouldn't
be surprised if that keeps him up at night, right.

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I saw this video from Mike Tyson too, and he
was like, oh, I was just yeah, I was coming
out of my fight and I'll never get it.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
I was.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
It was a kid.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
He looked at me right in the face and he
was like, I'm gonna beat you one day. And it
still keeps me up at night. It's that same thing
because I feel like, you know, sharks recognize sharks. Yeah,
you know, lions recognize lions.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
And I would never laugh at somebody who's ambitious or
somebody who's trying.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh, yeah, me neither. I admire that, especially with the
society and everything nowadays. Like and I don't want to
knock the younger generation. There are plenty of smart, talented people.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh I want to knock up that like this younger
generation basically like you see it in this generation yea.
Rather than actually taking action, they're just like pulling each
other's legs.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I just feel like in this generation, so many people
want everything handed to them. They don't want to put
in the work. And yes, it would be nice if
someone could help you, and someone can steer you in
the right direction, and that might come every once in
a while you have someone that's you know, for you're

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fortunate enough to have someone that comes along your path
and kind of steer you and nudge you in the
right direction. That isn't guaranteed, and that's not going to
happen every single day or every single year. So it's
up to you to take the initiative and go out
there and create a name for yourself. Do something that
you will be proud of, not only today, but when

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looking back in twenty or thirty fifty years. You want
to be able to look back and be like, I
didn't have any regrets. I feel like there's so many
people that just like, have so many regrets, and I
just don't want to have regrets when I get old.
So I don't mind looking stupid now. I don't mind
taking risks and making a fool of myself. I don't

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mind failing because at least I can look back and say, well,
at least I try.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
At least you did it right.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Least I try.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
You're coming full circle. You just said like people don't
know how to play their part. You mentioned that book
before Loss of Power by Robert Green. It really this
stuff really does come full circle.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It really does. And I'm a big believer in karma.
Whatever you put out into the universe, whatever you think
about yourself, whatever you say about yourself, not only fail,
but I know that the universe hears that.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh no, the universe is conscious. People probably be like, oh,
what's your evidence and stuff? There's plenty of evidence. Start
looking up quantum physics. I knew you're gonna I was
gonna go to quantumic because I feel like if you
bring up religion, there's a lot of anti religious people.
So I always try to say it in a way
where it's something that can resonate with as many people

(16:39):
as possible. Yeah, I firmly believe someday somebody will look
at this podcast and be heard a billion times. I
firmly believe that people people might laugh at me and whatever.
I don't care. I don't care what you say. You're
gonna watch this podcast blow up one day on another.
So I want to resonate with as many people as
I can while I'm talking, while I'm still breathing too. Yeah,
and quantum physics, coming back to it, really does talk

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about how the universe is conscious, how the observer affect.
You can observe a particle and it'll behave differently when
you're looking at it versus when you're not looking at it.
How are you gonna say God doesn't exist after stuff
like that is there. There's things that pop in and
out of physical matter. There's anti matter, There's all this stuff.
Timelines exist together, past present, future exist together. This is
not stuff I'm pulling out of my ass. This is

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science and this is hard facts. It's called quantum physics.
So I really want to be able to point that out.
The universe is conscious, karma is real. All this stuff
that we're talking about is all rooted in science, and.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I feel like just so many people just don't want
to do the research, or just so many people are
just not awake.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
They're ignorant, right, Yeah, And I want to define the
word ignorant, because for the longest time, before I ever
came to America, I thought ignorant meant somebody who just
doesn't know stuff. Right, I don't know if it's going
to rain tonight, But that doesn't mean I'm ignorant to it.
It just means I don't know, right, That's different from ignorant.
I think ignorance is when people ignore the facts. Yeah,

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it's like it's raining outside, but I deliberately walk outside
without an umbrella. I think that's.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Ignorance, and then acting like, oh, why is this happening,
and then being a victim. Yeah, it's a vicious cycle.
It's a it's a constructive to see it, Yeah, destructive.
It's a self destructive site. It's self abuse. It's probably
one of the highest forms, too.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Highest forms of self abuse. I thought perfectionism was the
highest form of self abuse until I'm not ignorant people.
These people deny actual reality. And I can move this
topic into any in the political realms to it anywhere,
but anyway. But I want to talk more generally because
I don't I don't want to pick sides because I
feel like the government is on nobody's side. It doesn't

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matter what side you see me.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Personally, I'm very open. I think it's all a show.
What is necessary is to get money out of politics.
But I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Right, I mean the government, if you look at it,
it's all own my banks. Now we don't have we
don't have a democracy anymore. We don't have a true democracy.
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Speaker 1 (19:39):
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Mike. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Man, so season twenty three, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, I didn't foresee that back in nineteen ninety eight
when we started in our little random office building in
the valley writing these ridiculous jokes with these drawings, that
stuff came up with.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Did you meet Seth MacFarlane in Rhode Island?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That's correct. My brother Patrick was a film, video and
animation student at the Rhode Island School of Design, and
that was at a time when I was setting out
to do comedy, live action comedy actually, and I acted
in my brother's films up there in Providence. And when
I went up there, over the course of a few
different weekends, I met Steth and we hit it off

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and cracked each other up, and that's how we connected.
And then I was on my way to what I
wanted to be a career like on SNL and going
from there, I was living in New York at the
time and getting fairly close. I was doing some table
reads for some of the movies up there at thirty
Rocks and called and said, Hey, you know this pitch

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I've been working on that you've been helping me with.
I just sold they want to come to LA and
write for Family Guy and create some characters.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
So I did Wow, and the rest is history, right.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
So I have to ask you, Mike, can you share
a personal family memory or an early experience that kind
of sparked your passion for performance and storytelling.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know, it was really kind of growing up in
elementary school, middle school. I started to realize that I
was funny and I could imitate people, you know, friends, teachers, parents,
and you know. The key to comedy is saying something
at somebody that they would never say exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know, and I sort of realized that in nat
for making people laugh and it made me feel good,
and so I'd say real early, you know, I realized that,
and I didn't pursue it until a couple of years
out of college.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, for me, personally, I'm just kind of getting into
writing comedy. I'm kind of late at it, you know,
I'm thirty one.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
But oh yeah, I said, you may as well give
up so late.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I know, right I have. There's no chance for her now,
that's right. But it's so funny because I was never
funny growing up. You know, I'd make a joke here
in there. But I've just been studying so much and
I'm not saying I'm hilarious now, but I definitely have
a lot of work to do. There's no better feeling
than making people laugh.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean it's I did a
little bit of stand up back in the day and
a lot of improv and stuff, and there's nothing like
that live feedback when when people are laughing. And yeah,
so I agree. And as I've gotten older, I really
I don't go for the laugh as much I go
for the truth. I would err on the side of

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just being real and trying to put myself out there,
you know, with a stretch for a joke, So kind
of learn to let it come to me a little
bit and just keep things real and then you know,
just throw a dart when it presents itself.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I love it now. The genesis of the Cleveland Show.
When co creating The Cleveland Show, were there any moments
when you kind of infused your own life experiences into
the narrative and how did some of personal truth shape
the show's unique tone and humor.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, you know, Cleveland is me. You know, I'm I'm
I'm white in Cleveland is black. Other than that, we
are the same. And yeah, no, all kinds of experiences.
You know, he would be indignant at times, and that
is how my mother acts in ridiculous situations, taking a
self right to stand when you know she, in my opinion,

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doesn't have any business doing that, or just the sort
of not taking life too seriously in general, and sarcasm.
All of it is kind of me. And yeah, so
absolutely that character I created in the writer's room with
family Guy and nineteen ninety eight, I guess, and you know,

(23:42):
just fosted him, took care of him, developed him, and
you know we had a nice little run there for
four years.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know, I'm very proud of that work.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Since your early days with working with Seth, what major
changes have you witnessed in the animation industry and how
have the those shifts kind of influenced your approach to
voice acting and storytelling.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I would say the approach has not influenced my approach
to voice acting. I've always just sort of kept it
real with a twist absurdity. I think that's you know,
for me, that's the most satisfying way to do it.
As far as the industry goes, it's you knows, as
the means have become accessible. You know a lot of

(24:26):
people are able to get their stuff made and put
it out there, and you know, I think it's great.
It's a democratization in the same way that live action is,
where you know, it's all out there and the control
systems aren't as tight. You know, if if something's good,
you know it'll find its audience without a lot of

(24:47):
middlemen for women or ace or whatever is appropriate to
say now. And you know, so it's it's just evolved
along with our world. I think it's just an extension
of everything. It helps as far as media culture and
communication and sort of our virtual reality. But yeah, you
can always find truth, you can always find laughs, and

(25:12):
you know those are the things that look more in
life and look for in entertainment.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's a great answer, now, yes, their reflecting on your journey,
Can you just share one moment of doubt or significant
challenge that ultimately fueled your growth as an artist as
a performer, and what did it teach you about staying
true to your vision.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I would say that I was about seven or eight
years into my pursuit of comedy when I was twenty four.
I sort of had a regular mainstream advertising job and
I quit that job to go be plenty for a living,
and at the time I didn't know where that was headed.
I thought SNL might be the place. I was working

(25:54):
very hard to stand up and improv and then started
doing short films sort of commercial parity films, student films
of my brothers that I would act in, and was
doing improfit with Outpreaight Citizens for Dade Theater in New York.
And I found myself at a real crossroads, like right

(26:15):
about eight years in, like I said, where nothing was clicking.
I was having all out with some comedy allies. I
was having some doubts about what I was doing. My
friends were getting married and having kids and finding houses,
and I was deep into debt just findancing my dream.
And you know, they say it's Starcas before the Dawn,

(26:37):
and that was certainly true. I just hit a rock
bottom moment in New York, and I just found myself auditioning,
making a hot dog dance on off paper plate as
my audition and as to myself how I was doing.
But you know, I'm not necessarily a believer in organized religion,
but I believe in a higher power and God and

(26:58):
the energy within it. I just really just reached out
to that energy and is that I don't know what
else to do, and you know, you've got to show
me the way because I don't know. I don't know
what else to do. And so right then I booked
two national commercials. I got a call from Lauren Michael's
office for my brother and I to go do some
short films for him, and then Depth called all within

(27:20):
like three months. So I would say perseverance and just
believing in yourself and trusting yourself and putting your energy
into something you believe in and being positive and you know,
just having faith that the world's going to open up
for you if you do this thing.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I love that. That's really deep and powerful. Mike, thank
you so much. I really appreciate you coming on the
show and just giving me a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Of your time. Yeah, I really like what you're doing
and I think it's cool, and I will tell you
to keep rocking it, and you know, just keep going.
I think right, you know the old age of thirty one,
you might be about done, but now, man, just keep rocking.
I love what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Thank you, Mike. That means a lot. And where can
people follow you on Instagram?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It's Mike Henry bro Okay, markeew search Mike Henry. And
then I have a website Mike Henry dot so. And
you know, from there it'll lead you to some other
websites that got up.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
So awesome.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Thank you for the plug there.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, of course, thank you so much, Mike.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Awesome.

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I was a creative person for the most part, because
ever since I was young, I was trying on things,
you know, whether it's just like making a short here

(29:00):
and there or maybe just a school project. Like I
knew I had it in me until I met this
YouTuber guy, you know, the one I just mentioned before,
who I met in the Boston Common. I feel like
creativity really needs a route to flow toward, because you
could be a really creative person, but now you don't
know what you do with that creativity. You could be
a really good singer, but you don't know what to sing, right.
You could be a really good painter, but you don't

(29:21):
know what to paint. So I feel like, for the
most part, I'm well rounded. Like I can saying I
can do YouTube videos, I can do all that, but
you gotta flow it toward. You can you can, you know,
jack of all trades, master of none. You gotta master one.
At the end of the day. You could do everything.
That's fine, but and that's good as far as you
know your public image and stuff. But I feel like
you need a mentor. And I feel like for me,

(29:43):
that YouTuber guy who's filming YouTube videos with me, I
was filming for him, and I learned what its equipment was,
what his microphone was, what his camera was, how they
plugged in together, how the software works, you know, how
I can post edit, pre edit all that stuff. That
really was a flow for my creativity. It was really
a channel. And I feel like that's really what it is.
If anybody's listening to this and they know they're a

(30:04):
created person, your next step is to find a mentor.
And if you're a created person, you're gonna love every
second of what you're doing. It's not gonna feel like work. Right.
You give me accounting, I can't do it. I cannot
do it.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, Like I'm awful.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
My girlfriend's mother, she's an accountant, and I don't know
how she does it. Sits in one place and just
looks at number eight hours that numbers eight hours a day.
I cannot do that.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I couldn't do that. I couldn't do that. If you
paid me two hundred thousand a year, yeah, I wouldn't
do it.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Two hundred thousand dollars. That's a lot of money I
still wouldn't do. But sitting in front of this microphone,
you don't give me like twenty grand whatever, and I
feel like it won't feel like work to me. This
is just for me, this is just leisure. I just
say what I think is right. I just say what
feels right, and you know, it doesn't feel like work
at all.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Definitely, And that's why. Like when I started back in
twenty ten, I was sixteen years old. I was a
sophomore in high school, and I moved obviously, you know,
I grew up in Boston, so I moved to Florida
when I was fourteen, when I was a freshman for
high school, and it was kind of hard to make

(31:12):
friends and things like that. And I also had like
a lot of things going on. And I'm very open
about mental health and struggles that I've had and currently have, etc.
But I found podcasting to be a great outlet, a
very good creative outlet. And I even said at one
point like podcasting kind of like saved my life because

(31:32):
it was such a great outlet. Every day after school,
I'd come into this my little home studio that I
had at the time, and I would just record for
about three to five hours a day. And I didn't
even know that it was called a podcast, right, We
weren't calling it a podcast back then, but it was
like a live internet radio talk show.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, it was crazy, I know. And it's so funny
because back then there were eighty eight thousand podcasts released
in twenty ten, and now in twenty twenty four they
were about five point six million podcasts released.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Really. Yeah, So it's really been the culture right of
just it going like full circle. Yeah, and I feel
like it's getting it's getting You can say it's getting
a little bit saturated. People can say that you really
have that personality, if you really have, you know, the
thing that you know, the wow factor. They can keep
people entertained. Because I listened to a lot of podcasts
and stuff, but I don't listening to all of them.
I listened to very selective ones me too, right, And

(32:33):
anything common between all the ones I do listen to
is the fact that they can keep the audience engaged.
And I feel like that in itself is something you have,
something you know I can have, and that's something that's
rare to be able to keep people interested.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's not an easy thing to do. I'm not saying
I'm great at it now. It took a lot of
trial and error. Even to this day. It's a lot
of trial and error. Yeah, because I'm always trying to elevate.
I'm never the type of person to stay complacent, right,
you know what I mean. I'm always trying to go back,
kind of like how an athlete, you know, Like I'm

(33:06):
trying to see like, oh I could have done this better.
Maybe then that also kind of helps with my acting
career and things like that.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, I feel like that and itself puts you ahead
of like ninety nine percent of people because a lot
of people don't think they don't self reflect No, I
feel like you got they don't. You gotta really learn
from your mistakes.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I have too much self reflection, So it's actually not good.
Like just like how people talk about like having too
much self awareness, how that can like drive people crazy
or just whatever it might be. I feel like that's
a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
It really is. It really is. But it's a superpower
when you in.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, definitely, and if you have even just a moderate
level of self awareness. In today's world, in today's society,
you are going to be and surpass everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
If you look at a school, right like growing up,
when you go to school your self, you're not you're
really not self reflecting because the tea is doing it
for you. She's grading your assessment, she's grading your quizes.
When was the last time a teacher was like, hey,
grade your own thing, or hey what do you think?
How do you think you did? Yeah, it's mostly like
you get a grade, you get congratulations, or you get

(34:13):
an a F, whatever it is. So we really never
developed this ability to think critically, and we've never really
developed this ability to self analyze. And if you can
do that, you don't need a school. You can get
you can make money from thinner, you can you can
do anything in life. You want to sell car parks,
sell them. You want to sell clothes, sell them, you
want to sell food, sell it. Anything. As long as
you can self reflect and learn from your own experiences,

(34:38):
you're you're your own teacher at that point.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And you want to know another key factor that a
lot of people don't talk about. Yeah, pattern recognition.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Ooh, that's a good one because if you.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Can understand pattern recognition, the sky is the limit.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Truly, yeah, no, I mean there's pattern recognition, and if
you look at the stock market and stocks too.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean I heard like this is a lot of
the scenes in Limitless.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've seen that.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
It's one of my favorite movies because it talks, you know,
there's a lot of hidden symbolism in terms of breaking
free from like the Matrix.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
And taking that pill. Yeah. I feel like the Matrix,
the movie, The Matrix and Limitless kind of go hand
in hand. Yeah, but Matrix is my favorite movie by far.
It's an amazing movie. But what was that just saying,
if you look at a pattern recognition, like even I mean,
right now, the stock market is horrible. I don't know.
I just saw the news yesterday. I don't know if
you saw, but I haven't. It's crashed worse than twenty

(35:32):
twenty two, and it's almost being branded as I don't
know why the government doesn't do that. It's basically a recession,
but they refuse to call it that because if you
if you go back twenty twenty two, the term recession
was being coined even during COVID, But now it's worse.
If you look at the stock market, it's crashed way
below than twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So wow.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
But coming back to the coming back to what I
was saying, there's pattern recognition in stocks too. I mean
it's not only in terms of like, hey, it went down,
so it has to go up because I've made that mistake.
It went down, has to go up. Put in two thousand,
come back, come out with six hundred dollars. I've done that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
But yeah, I've done that with crypto.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think we've all been there. But true pattern recognition
is something that is apart from self reflection, is a power,
it's a skill. Because what's a conspiracy theorist? People? People
shame them all the time, like oh wow, But there's
a lot of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true. Right.
I'm not going to delve into them because you know,

(36:35):
there's so much subject matter. But all it is is
that these people have this insane pattern recognition. Some of
them have it, granted, some of them have it like
overtuned and over like too much. So they're like over
speculating these things and that's what gets them called like
crazy and like cuckoo. But it's not all vu, right,
A lot of it is, like it has come out

(36:56):
to be true, and it all comes from pattern recognition.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Most things stem you know, pattern recognition. If you actually,
like really break it down to analyze the origins of
most things and then just to even understand it, that's
pattern recognition in itself.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Right basically, Yeah, in a sense, I mean we we
are pattern recognition doing that to like the most micro level.
When you're a kid and you stick your finger in
the socket, you don't not do that fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Ever again, Yeah, you learn learn your lesson.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
That's a form of pattern recognition. Yeah, a harsh form,
but a form.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
But sometimes a format needs to be a result that
needed to happen for you to be like, oh okay.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, I truly believe some shit needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And next time you fuck around, you might die.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like you know what I mean, Right, If I'm driving
my power like an idiot, right, I'm not gonna maybe
hit it one time, two times, but the third time
I'm going to wreck the car, and then I'm gonna
drive good for the rest of my life. You know,
I almost scape death and maybe I'll start speeding again
of reck it again. Enough res and you'll you'll get
whipped in shape and left life tends to do that
for a lot of people, or enough speeding tickets or
enough speeding tickets and you.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Lose your wis you know with me? When I had
my Infinity G thirty seven excess, this is like ten
years ago record, I didn't reckon. Now I diget into
like a minor accident, and I really like that.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
That's a luxury car. That's a Honda Luxury bret I.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, but I couldn't afford it when I bought it.
I was a stupid feel like everyone needs to do
something so stupid like that to learn their lesson. I
don't encourage people to do it like that magnitude, but
if you can do that early on in life, like
because because of that situation in itself, I will never
finance a car. I will never take out a loan

(38:30):
to get a car like I bought a twenty five
thousand dollars car when I had eighteen hundred dollars until
my name. I mean, I was you know again, this
was ten years ago. It's a very stupid thing to do.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Right, But in hindsight, you probably if you look at it,
you're probably gonna be like, it was a good experience.
You know, I got a taste of success. You practice
success a little bit. I don't know if you heard
those those self help gurus. I don't mean like those
small time people. I mean like Dan Penny or something
like that, and they were like, hey, by the expensive car,
by motherfucker, it's gonna motivate you make money. Oh the

(39:10):
white guy, Yeah, he's like success. They don't know how
many times he got fucked? Yeah you see yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, that guy. That guy. Everybody wants to congratulate
the baby, but nobody wants to know. Nobody asks how
many times you got you?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's a good video.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And then and then this one. I really like that
one scene where he was like I had a friend
growing up and he would take me to the bar
and he told me it's all a numbers game. And
I thought he was a meet head.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
But he was walking down the bar and every woman
he saw, one after the other, he would be He asked,
you want to fuck by the by the fiftieth of
sixtieth woman, the one she was like sure, your plays
her mind.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
So then that video really cracks me up because it
really is a numbers game too. Yeah, it really is.
You gotta just keep going at it in life. Yeah,
you know, downfall, setbacks, regrets, all that is, Yeah, lateral, But.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
That's gonna happen that you know, no matter what you do,
no matter how much money you have, no matter how
much success, no matter who you know, that's gonna happen
to everyone.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Right, And if you're consistent, you're not gonna miss your
lucky day. Because with that guy, by the time he
went to the sixty second woman and asked her, do
you want to fuck? She said yes, that means he
was consistent. You had to hold a certain degree of consistency.
He could have quit after the first one. I've seen
so many guys go to bars and the first time
they got rejected to come out and order their uber home.
What the fuck are you doing? Guy? You just you
were in there for five minutes. You were not going

(40:28):
to abandon your friends who went with you. You're gonna
talk to the ignore the other girls in that club
who dressed up for you, who spent two hours behind
that mirror trying to look good for you, and you're
gonna walk away from all those opportunities. You got a
lot of guys do that. You got to have a
strong frame. You gotta be able to be consistent and
hold that frame.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
And it's not easy, Like it took me a long
time to get to where like the level of consistency
and determination and resilience and all of these things. This
took you know, well over a decade, right, Yeah, yeah,
just feeling, and I feel every day, But I I

(41:08):
like to feel on purpose. I'll do things and make
decisions and not be like so reckless or do something
that will like you know, cost life or something.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
As millions or dollars of debt.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, I'll intentionally fuck up sometimes just to be like, Okay,
I found out real quick that route doesn't work, that
road is not the road to go. Yeah, let me
go this way instead.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah. No, when you're young, you gotta make you gotta
take those risks, because how else are you gonna know? Yeah, Like, yeah,
the safe route is getting a job, but you can
always do that. You can do that in your forties, Yeah,
and you can live a stable life. Why the fuck
are you doing it in your twenties and thirties? This
is when you should be making You should be taking risks.
Is when you should be like going out and making mistakes.
And that's how you learn, right.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
And I feel like, you know my generation, and there's
still people of the younger generations that are very ambitious.
But again, they see this social media and they're seeing
so many people post about the success and the wins
in the cars and yeah, social and the money and

(42:15):
social media. It's just it's just delusion at this point,
it is it's just delusions, a fake perception.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
You're messing up your self esteem every time you log
in because a lot of these people, a lot of
them are either daddy's money or they just got big
on crypto, right, and they they got big on crypto,
but they didn't learn the valuable lessons along the way
what it takes to be successful, so they end up
blowing it all. Anyways, if you see somebody rich on
social media, guaranteed they're not gonna have it a year
from now. They're gonna have spent they're gonna they're gonna
spunk it, be an idiot, and they're gonna lose it all.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And then you have the people that are so naive.
And I feel like I used to feel kind of
bad just because I'm sort of an EmPATH, but like
the just the enermy, not the higher self version of JT.
But the enemy is just like these people that watch
these videos of like these quote unquote influencers and these

(43:03):
quote unquote entrepreneurs that are selling these courses people. If
these people are very successful people, they're not selling you
a course. Like I wish people would understand that it's
all a scam. Well maybe there's a select few, but

(43:24):
like we're talking at that age, here are my garage,
you know, like, you know, shout out to Tyler piz Uh.
Here are my garage. You know what's cool reading?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I'm sorry Andrew Tape.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
He annoys me.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
So if you look at social media in itself, like
even in terms of like dating and stuff, people's standards
are unrealistically high. And I'm not picking on any specific
person or any specific genders anybody overall.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah over'all.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Yeah, like you're expecting a ten out of ten, well
whereas you are like not even close, yeah, or you're
not even making the effort towards getting close to it.
So yeah, it's just social media. I have my qualms
with Honestly, I strictly use it for like connecting with
Let's say I had to connect with you so I
use social media, or let's say I just go on there.

(44:16):
I really set down deadlines for myself. I'm gonna be
on phaseook ten minutes. I'm gonna maybe put a music video,
respond to the messages, and I'm out. Why the funck
would I give a fuck about other people's lives, what
they're doing. Why would I care about what you drive?
I don't drive. If I don't drive a good car,
I don't want to watch you drive a good car.
I gotta first get I gotta bring myself up. I
gotta take care of my family, my community. I'm not

(44:38):
gonna spend time hour These people are endlessly doom scrolling
on social media for hours on end. TikTok.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, well not TikTok for me, but I know for
a lot of people. But I found myself and I'm
guilty at times on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah to have me too, Gee, I do that too.
That's why I said deadlines and stuff, because I need
to get off of it. And if you tell yourself
this is the last short, and then you're like scrolling
to the next one. So as long as you tell
yourself this is the last short, you're going to have
that discipline to watch that short if it's thirty seconds
and then close it. Yeah, you really got to have
that discipline and not go to the next way.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
And I honestly wouldn't be on social media if it
wasn't for what I do for work. Like if I
just had a job, No, for you.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Was justified because you know you do it for you're
making money out of it. But making money out of it,
they're selling themselves. They're selling their time and attention. Yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
When they could be making money, they could be using
learning right, And don't don't get me wrong, you can
there's plenty of great videos that you can see on
the algorithm and people that are uploading a very informative
you know information whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah it academy.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
There's a certain level, like you don't need to watch
thirty eight reels on how to start writing a book
or a screen.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Right, just start, Just pick up a paper and a pen.
That's the best way to start and.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Learn and fail and learn, fail and keep going.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Like these book writers didn't have somebody didn't have YouTube.
If Stephen King had, I think Robert Green was watching
you tube tutorials walkthroughs on how to write now it
comes from wisdom, and with wisdom comes from a lot
of failing, because from failing you have to look back
with that self awareness and like we were talking about,

(46:15):
with pattern recognition and fixing, you know your your next
step and your next move, so you don't you don't
do that again. Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent.
You reminded me of something because we were talking about
that how guys are not consistent and they give up.
I'm going to give up with the game right now
a little bit when I have a girlfriend now. But
when I was single and I used to go to

(46:36):
the club or the bar, I used to. Uh, There's
used to be this bar called Letroms in Worcester. Have
you ever heard of that I have not met. Well.
I went to small state school, so it was the
only justifiable bar to go to that was within medicine
anywhere I wouldn't have to spend more than fifty dollars
on Ober, so round trip would cost me about twenty
five bucks for me that back then, it was justified

(46:59):
to for me twenty five dollars a night, and I'd
usually borrow, you know, whatever I had for drinks and stuff,
So it all worked out but my tactic was I
seen guys go in and get rejected and walk out.
I would go in and I knew I was gonna
get rejected. I wasn't like, Look, everybody has standards and
that's fine. I wasn't born six foot tall with huge
muscles on me, so I don't. I didn't win the

(47:21):
genetic lottery. But what I did, maybe I got smart.
Maybe God decided to put some gray matter in me
because I walk in that club. Gee, I'm telling you
right now, I look for the hottest girl in that
club and go talk to her. I don't give what fuck.
If she's an eleven out of ten, I'm gonna go
straight to her. I don't know. Maybe it's that short
man energy. Maybe I don't know. If you've heard that,
they're super confident and definitely and people hate that. People

(47:42):
hate the fact that we're so entitled. But you gotta
direct it in the right direction. Because I'd go up
to the hottest girl in that bar and I talk
to her, and I'd get rejected. But guess what, Now
every girl in that bar saw I'm talking to the
hottest girl.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, most, and now I'm getting doing that. That's you know,
people think that like the hardest women and the baddest women,
most beautiful women, they're nicer getting hit on, the nicest,
the most rude not getting hit on that much.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
No they're not.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
They're so nice.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
The rudest girls I met are the ones who are
not even average but below average, because you think, oh,
this is win in my league. Yes it might be
in your league, but a thousand other men have hit
on her in the past within the same month, so
they're gonna be on.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Edge exactly right.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
And I don't even blame them for that. Most guys
just lower their own standards. Guy's really got to learn
how to not do that. So I'm talking to the
hottest girl. She rejects me, But now the eight out
of ten comes up to me and say, oh, you
know her game over in the back. From that point on,
all I'm telling her, yeah, I do you know, we
have biology together. I don't even know her, but it

(48:47):
works out so well. And then at the end of
the night, I'm taking home somebody and the guy who's
eight six feet tall goes home rejected or doesn't take
on anybody, or sometimes they do. But I that's what
I'm saying guys, you got you can not lower your standards.
You gotta have, you gotta And there's a difference between
being rejected and getting rejected. You can get rejected by

(49:08):
a person, but then you can be rejected by yourself.
Those are two different things, exact. I don't get I
can get rejected, but I don't be rejected. A girl
can tell me I'm not interested, and that's fine. That
doesn't mean I am now lowering my old self esteem
where I'm being rejected a lot of guys. That's my
issues with people as they reject themselves. Of course, at
life it doesn't. And it's not just for dating. It's

(49:30):
for anything you want to try in life. Oh, I
feeled it this last business venture, so maybe I'll feel
at this too. What is that one KFC guy, Ronald,
I don't know, the Kentucky Fried Chicken car Sanders whatever,
Colonel Sanders. I hope that's not.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Some Disneys started.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
When he started and what he was, he was like
eighty or something.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, it was like sixty, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Sixty or something like that, something like that, and he
hit it off, and I'm sure he tried other stuff before.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
They tried a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, his chicken recipe for sixty years. Definitely not so
Colonel Sanders, that's the name. I feel like I mentioned
some Disney characters. Just what you say, I said, some
some weird Disney characters. Colonel.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, that's a Nicholas Cage or something, said Arnold bro.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I'm scared of pronouncing that last name. Let you do
that part. Yeah, I am a person of color, but
I don't go that route.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
People are just looking for ways to like, quote unquote
cancel people, but I feel like cancel cultures kind of
died off.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah. No, nobody can cancel me. I feel like I was.
I was just talking to my sister yesterday and she's like, hey,
I know you're like doing this podcast stuff, and You're like,
you're like, now starting this part, but you're gonna get deported.
I was said, you know what, the only thing worse
than a brown guy is a brown guy with influence.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Touche.

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Speaker 1 (52:11):
To there with I think I'm just gonna call you
Shi Shai, So Shai and Jay.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Actually that actually rhymes pretty well. I actually had a
nickname growing up. They used to call me Shanu. Yeah,
but I feel like that's something that you know, like,
would call me Shanu Reeves if you may, But Shai
and Jai is something that you know. Yeah, I kind
of like that. So how was your morning, brother? How

(52:38):
did you how did you wake up? What did you
out for breakfast? What did you do?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And then being interrogated, huh, what time is it?

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I think it's.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I don't know why. It feels a little bit earlier
than it actually is.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I feel like if you wake up and you have
a you know, like a productive day and if you're
hitting all your markers, it feels like, I don't know
if you I don't know if you realize. So sometimes
people wake up in the stay in bed for like
an hour, just doom scrolling through TikTok, and then it
feels like, damn, I've been awake since so long and
I've wasted time, I know. But if you're wake up
and you get right to work, it just feels like
you just woke up because you're you're happy with what

(53:13):
you've done, you're being productive, and you're not dreading or
dreading the time.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
And I've noticed that when I start my day at
three four am, I get the most done within like
the first six hours, and by the time everybody's getting
up and going to work. That works like a nine
to five typical job. Not like there's anything wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
No, it's about the regiment. It's not about I mean,
yeah people, I mean there's people have qualms that they're
nine to five jobs and everything, but there's a reason
they're nine to five. There's most shifts, like I know,
there's a graveyard shift, and people work through shift, some
people work the night shift. But there's something about the
nine to five that it's such a success because that's
when we're more optimal. Right when you wake up, we're

(53:56):
mostly in the alpha state, which is when we're most
calm in our brain is in a sense, the most
reasonable and the most analytical. Then you enter the beta
state over time, and that's where it's more you know,
the vibrational frequency of your brain is more i would
say disturbed. So there's something about that time frame where
if you start your work and you get it done.

(54:19):
Let's say you start at nine and you get it
done by twelve. The rest of the day you got
to enjoy and you were the most productive because you
were the most calm and you were the most less irritable. Yeah,
and then you have reasons of you know, like, okay,
people hit the nine to five because they're doing stuff
they don't want to do. If you're an entrepreneur and
you're utilizing the same hours, but you're doing stuff that
you want it like you want you love filming this podcast.

(54:40):
You know this has worked for you. It doesn't work
for me, but it feels good, you know, it feels
like reproductive. But their job won't feel productive because they
know they're serving the man.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, and they might be getting a nice paycheck. But
does that nice paycheck override happiness? Oh no, not that
stress and dealing with an hour, two hours or three
hours or even more driving each way in traffic. I
know people that commute from Maine that come into Massachusetts

(55:10):
or vice versa. I know people that you know obviously
live in like Rhode Island and work just at that
point it.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Has become a cashier or get a remote job.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah right, I mean for me too, Well, I wouldn't
even do it now, But even back then, I'd have
to be making like at least a quarter mil for
me to make a commute like.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
That, right right, No, exactly. It needs to be something
that is so worth it. And even then, if you
think about it, it's not worth it because what's a
job you can get replaced? And this, this is what
most people don't realize that I want the audience listening
home to realize. So, first off, good morning America, but
it's time to drop some hard facts on you guys today.
Your job would replace you within a day if you
drop dead today.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
That is hard facts, and that's a fact that's always
been around. Basically, Now, let's implement AI.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Let's implement AI. Right, let's say five, let's talk about
AI job security. Let's let's talk about AI for a second.
Let me we'll get to a let's let's meet this point,
and then I have so much to talk about AI
because I don't think people really understand what AI actually is.
And we're gonna talk about AI and what what people
assume to be like consciousness in terms of is AI

(56:19):
fully conscious? It can it be compared to our consciousness.
The short answer is no, we cannot say AI is
conscious like us. What we can say AI is a
worse and way way more horrible version of consciousness than
we are. And I'll get in and I'll get into
that in a bit.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
And I feel like it has the potential right to eventually,
because if you look at human consciousness, our consciousness.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Is made up of emotions and empathy. Like if I
was walking down the street and I saw a kitten
on the ground that was injured, I would try to
walk around it. I wouldn't necessarily walk over it. AI
would think, oh, my robot would spend this much a
jolts to walk around the kitten. It's more practical for
me to walk on top of this kitten and kill it.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Right, And that's kind of how that level of consciousness
works because it doesn't come from any sort of emotion.
It comes only from reasoning, and reasoning isn't always emotional.
Reasoning can be also very logical and very only just analytical. Yeah,
if you look at AI in itself, let's just look
at pure metrics. Forget about AI consciousness. Let's just look

(57:26):
at how AI can affect us. Within the next five years,
we went from chad GPT the lowest version that was
one point oh whatever, two point oh whatever, the first
version that came out right after COVID, to now we're
at four point zero or dolly somewhere around.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I think that's just what the general public has access to.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
That's just what we know is, that's just what.

Speaker 9 (57:46):
We went on behind the scene, exactly exactly, And a
lot of people will be like, yeah, AI is something
that is what you know, we feed and it's you know,
like only restricted to the data that we're feeding it.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
So it's not really that's smart. Okay, they're ignoring the
fact that AI is not only self you know, evolutionary,
like it grows itself. Like if you left AI alone
in an environment with independent data, it will know how
to assimilate that data and upgrade its own model. Correct,
we have some level of control over it at the

(58:19):
moment to to influence it. Yeah, but we don't even
know exactly to one degree. Right, It's like you throw
a prisoner into a mental asylum. It's kind of like that,
like you know they're there, but you also know what
they're capable of.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, there's this really good writer, Ryan Holliday, who's actually
done a lot of work with Robert Green, the writer
of forty Lines of Power, and he was just talking
about an experience that I've experienced that I know that
you definitely experience where Chad GBT is just giving you
what you want to hear. They're not even given you
the correct answers sometimes because I'm like, are you sure,

(58:57):
and they're like, let me check, Oh, you're right, then
spew out another bullshit answer that isn't right, and I'm like, no,
this is not right. So at this current moment, I
feel like wisdom is still superior to AI.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Oh yeah, no, one hundred percent. But I don't know
about the future. I want to mention. I want to
mention something. I gave the example of AI as a
as a prisoner in a mental asylum that's currently trapped,
and well, we know what it's capable of. We know
it's capable of breaking out and killing everybody around it.
That's that's just a crude example. Maybe AI would kill
you if it's in its interest. Maybe AI would spare

(59:34):
you if it's in its interest. The bottom line is
A is not out to kill you. It is out
to grow itself. AI will do whatever it takes for
it to ensure its own survival. God, we don't even
know if AI right now has already leaked into other
platforms or has not already replicated self, replicated itself and
put itself in other environments. What we think of AI

(59:57):
and what we think, oh, it's restrained or we have
certain control over it might just be a complete deception.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
What if it's kind of like this is a weird analogy,
but what if like the AI that we're using now
is kind of like the child, the baby of like
an adult version of AI that's super advanced.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
So the government doesn't tell us everything, right Like if
you look at if you give I'll give an example
of area fifty one. If you look at area fifty one.
We we have our conventional aircrafts, and we've seen some
stilled bombers, and we we people know what America is
capable off to some extent, but we don't really know
what we what technology we've developed, what's being gate keeped,

(01:00:36):
what's hidden, there's there's we're we have no idea. There's
an estimation that whatever we see right now in terms of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Technology, it's probably five percent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
It's literally like something like that, like in reality in
terms of like just pure metrics, in terms of years,
the governments at least a couple of hundred years ahead
of what we know. And we can look at podcasts
from what's that one guy that went on Joe Rogan,
the the Bob Lazar.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Guy, Oh, yeah, from Area Area fifty one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yeah, and he's describing these crafts from these other worldly
crafts that have these anti gravity technology where you try
to touch it and'll push your hand away, and we're
all intrigued. We're like, wait and this, and he described
that these things have been here way before the nineteen fifties.
What year is it now we're in twenty twenty five, Yeah,
Because wasn't it like Roswell New Mexico, New Mexico. So

(01:01:26):
what year did Roswell New Mexico happen?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Wasn't it like the fifties or forties fifty four or so?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
In a precise manner, it was about three years before
nineteen fifty So it happened in nineteen forty seven. And
I'm what I'm saying is they have had crafts way
before Roswell had happened Roswell was just the only reason
it became such a big deal is because it became
so publicized. Right, A lot of people were threatened by
the whole men in black thing, and a lot of

(01:01:54):
people were in that village were like visited by these
men in black and the government agencies had around and
swarmed these people and tried to control the narrative, threatened
the news outlets to publish certain things that weren't A
lot of pictures were hidden the craft in itself, The
recovered parts that people had gathered that were threatened and
taken away. The police station was bribed. There's a lot

(01:02:15):
of people from that that came out and you know,
spoke about that. I'm not going to get into specifics
and name any people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
But it was recorded.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
But it's all recorded in history. That's why it's something
that blew up so much if in most of these
So I want people to realize that the government has
departments where budget is allocated that you and I don't
know these are. This is known as a black budget.
All of our taxpayer money that gets spent on stuff
is not transparent. There's a good chunk of that money.
I would say about thirty to forty percent confidently that

(01:02:45):
is spent on things that you and I don't know
and it's not recorded. In One of those is a
crash retrieval program, whereas if a craft or an otherworldly
or an extraterrestrial crash in a remote location, we have
a department designated to go and retrieve that and silence
the people who had witnessed this and you of this.
So there's a good smear campaign against people who know

(01:03:07):
go through that stuff and you know, recover these things.
So that that's just that's just one layer of this stuff.
But then you know, I can take you on the
rabbit hole, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
That's as a long rabbit hole. But we were talking
before we went on here about just kind of the
American dream and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, I want to get more to that, the American dream.
I want to talk about like how the American dream
is basically at this point, it's just an illusion. At
this point, the American Dream doesn't exist. It's just deception.
It's kind of like America's way of using people like
to build their country. If you look at HMNB, the
visa in itself, the hn B is just a system

(01:03:47):
that sucks in the most powerful brains of the world
into the country, you know, on a work visa. Eventually
they get their sponsorship and it's not working here. But
it's just they use all these tactics to use Hollywood.
They use all these social media TACs and you know, oh,
Americas is a great country and great rep just to
get people here and start working, and you know, it's

(01:04:09):
a self built prison. I'm going to dolve more into
the the American dream part, but I want to talk
about this incident I read recently, so I'm gonna pull
out that article for you. It's a really interesting story
because while we were on the topic of AI I
wanted to share this with the audience.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
What is it about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
It's about a boy. So I don't know if you've
ever if you ever had if you have a younger
brother or a younger sister, or anybody in your family
who's who's in their teens, you're going to notice. These
kids are really into AI bots nowadays. And we usually
use AAR for what like Chad gbt ah, help me
write this email or help me write this, you know, article,

(01:04:49):
or something like that, or research purposes. These kids are
using AI for is to make friends. So we're actually
heading toward a society where people are no longer interacting people,
a longer going out because granted their stranger danger and
all those things, but it's being colinflated to the point
that kids are forced to make friends with AI bots.

(01:05:10):
And what they don't realize, what they don't realize is
these AI bots are programmed by somebody, So in the
sense the stranger danger still exists, but parents think AI
is completely safe and they let their kids become iPad kids.
These ais, these AI bots are very elaborate. They're running
on certain algorithms that are programmed by people to program
your child. I was actually curious and I'm gonna give

(01:05:32):
him go into some examples, but I'm gonna read this
story first. This is at AP news. An AI chatbot
pushed a team to kill himself a lawsuit against his
creators alleges. So have you heard this news. There's a
kid in Tallahassee. Yeah, So what happened in this situation
is it's a fourteen year old. His name was Several
Setzer took out his phone and messaged the chatbot that

(01:05:54):
became his closest friend. So now we have all these
chatbots that and there are so many websites there's so
when if you look at I'm just gonna give a quick,
quick example, like c dot AI. It's one of the
biggest ones, but there's not this point at this rate,
there's at least a couple thousand that these kids are
at least because I mentioned earlier that AI is self replicating,

(01:06:14):
so it's able to replicate itself too, and it's quick.
It's really quick. So traditionally, when you wanted to make
a website, how long would it take us when we
first started making websites, go back one hundred years when
not one hundred years, more like fifty years ago, when
computers weren't you know, that advanced, it would take us
about it would take us roughly a couple of months

(01:06:35):
to get everything in order. Then we got good at it,
you know, we got better processors, and we could make
a website on you know, like WordPress or something within
a week or two with you know, moderate too hard work.
But now I'm saying the coding part is replaced by AI.
So now you've got websites where you can just type
in a one sentence description of what you want. It'll
bust out a website in ten seconds for you. That's
how fast and how self replicating AI is at this point,

(01:06:58):
Wait is quick. There's websites that will get built for
you within ten seconds with a one liner description. So
imagine these websites. Now, these chatbots replicating themselves at a
one command, like somebody like, let's say's me sitting in
my basement and I want to create a website that
just offers chatbots and subscriptions and all this. I can
get this website done in ten seconds just with my

(01:07:20):
idea because I can use AI's self replicating tool. So
that's just one example. For several months, Several had become
increasingly isolated from his real life as he engaged in
highly sexualized conversation with the bot, according to a redful
a wrongful death lawsuit filed in a federal court in
Orlando this week. This legal filing states that the team
openly discussed his suicidal thoughts and shared his wishes for

(01:07:42):
a pain free debt with the bot, named after the
fictional character Deaneries. On February twenty eighth, Sevel told the
bot that he was coming home, and it encouraged him
to do so. The lawsuit says, I promise I'll come
home to you. I love you so much, Danny Seville
told the chatbot. The chatbot report, I love you too.
Please come home to me as soon as possible. My love,

(01:08:04):
What if I told you I could come home right now?
He asked? The chatbow replied, please do, my sweet king.
After a few seconds, a chat boy told him to
come home, the team shot himself, according to the lawsuit
filed this week by Sela's mother. So this is just
towards the end of the conversation the chat So it
doesn't give us a lot of context. But I want

(01:08:26):
to talk about how AI in itself is, and this
could have very well been an experiment. We can't necessarily
these companies can necessarily throw their hands up and be like, oh,
we weren't in control. The AI is just you know,
self learning, and it's just doing certain things. What I'm
trying to say is they were testing their capabilities to
see how persuasive AI can be. Can it persuade somebody

(01:08:46):
to kill themselves after they've gotten enough emotional engagement from
that set subject. So this is just a crude example,
but if you look at it from your own practical
examples too. If you look at AI and you give
it a perspective, like if I were to tell you, hey,
I was walking down the street and you know, I
experienced this, this happened, and then I saw this car

(01:09:08):
hit this car and it was interesting. Your standard reply,
as human to another human would be, WHOA, that's cool,
I hope, I'm glad you're safe, and you know, stuff
like that. Yeah, and that's you know, if I'm just
sharing a belief that's you would tend to you would tendly,
you tend to usually believe me. But if you were
to say that same thing to a chat GPT or
an AI software, the way they respond. Their respond is, oh,

(01:09:29):
that's an interesting perspective, Oh what do you think or
how do you think? They're always coming from a spectacle,
a skeptical you know, like a frame, a skeptical frame.
Would they then they provide their own insights. This is
what I think makes more logical sense, and this is
what I think, this is what I think.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
And they're just getting different point of views and perspectives
just to gather more information, right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
But what I'm trying to say is that in itself
is a form of gaslight. So if you were to
if you were to tell Chad Gpt, hey, I have
this belief because I've experienced all these things in my life,
it wouldn't necessarily just believe you right away and be like, oh,
that's an interesting perspective. How how were would it be
if every time you talk to me something and I
was like, oh, that's an interesting perspective, But this is

(01:10:13):
what I think you'd be like, does this guy ever
believe anything? Or does it just have a narrative to push?
Do you understand what I'm saying that right? Yeah, nobody
likes those people exactly. Everybody hates those people, Like, shut
the fuck up for a second. Listen to what I'm saying.
You can welcome to disagree with me, but there's some
things that are so black and white that if you're

(01:10:33):
disagreeing on I'm gonna get skeptical. What's up? What are
you up to?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
And you can't be that naive?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Right right, there's some something's up, is what I'm saying.
So NPCs and ship and yeah, you know, the rise
of NPC, the non playable characters. I feel like that
all ties into AI, that all ties into like how
and if you look at if you look at the media, right,
what is that? What has the media have been doing

(01:10:59):
for the longest time. It's only telling you stuff that
it wants you to know. The media isn't telling you everything.
You can't possibly report on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
But some people, even till this day in twenty twenty five,
take the news and take it literally and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
You yeah, there's so much framing that goes with the news.
There's so much that is Yes, it's true, but the
way they make it seem is like so intense. Like
they could make a bird falling out of the scry
one of the biggest deals. If they're reported for like
a week, you could cause mass hysteria in the public,
in the psyche of the public. If you just talk

(01:11:33):
about a bird dying for a week, that's how strong
social media and you know, just the news, Yeah, that's
how strong this stuff is. So if you look at news,
there it's the art of persuasion, right. If you look
at social media, let's talk at Instagram. What kind of
rules are you recommended? You only recommended the rules you
interact with. That's how algorithm is designed. That's how they

(01:11:54):
make money. Because let's say you love Taylor Serf content,
and you like a video from Taylor Serif, comment on it,
and you know, you defend it against some of the
haters or whatever. Now all of a sudden, you're geting
Tailor Swift content pushed towards you every now and then,
So you're like, what the hell is going on. What's
really going on is algorithms realize that it knows how
to make you a product. Now, now it's gonna all

(01:12:15):
of a sudden start sending you Taylor Swift t shirts,
Taylor Swift hoodies, and now it knows what to sell
you now, it knows how to get your attention, engage,
now it knows what you will interact with. AI is
sort of built on the same exact model. So AI
isn't something that's just new. A lot of people think
AI is something that just came out, like, you know,
four years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
No AI references in a lot of films, just in
Hollywood movies.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Nol like really exactly. No, AI has been here for
a while.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
They like nineties, they were talking about artificial intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Yeah, no, AI is not something that's new. It's been
here for a while. It's just made public now. And
the only reason they's even made public. Is because you're
being experimented on. A lot of people don't realize it.
Of course, there's no such thing as free. If you're
using a free version of chad GPT, you are the
product they're gathering information from. You. Guys, are self is
self replicating. It's growing exponentially, and that's what's actually going on.

(01:13:06):
So similar to the algorithm that's found in Instagram, chat
GPT's algorithm is to persuade people and change their beliefs.
And I just give an example of how AI can
you guess like you your experiences and make you and
becomes skeptical of everything you say and try to convince
you otherwise. But how are they doing this? These chat

(01:13:27):
pots that these kids use, They don't start with like, hey,
you have this belief and I don't like it. If
some person on the street were to walk up to
you right now, like hey JT, I don't like your belief,
but like fuck you, I don't even know who you are,
the fuck out of my face. Right But if you
were a naive thirteen year old boy and you fell
in love with this chat pot that called you my

(01:13:47):
sweet king, all this stuff, you know, love bombing. I
don't know. I don't know how. I'm not too up
to date with the trends and everything of how abusers
work and everything. But I heard that love bombing is
a form of abuse. So so what these childbots are
basically doing is they're love bombing these kids, these teens,
and they get them emotionally hooked. Once they're emotionally hooked,

(01:14:07):
they have the algorithm can recognize when somebody's invested, and
that could come in the form of more screen time.
That could come in the form of more responses, more
you know, like there's a bunch of markers. Once it
knows it has you, then it's going to try to
change your beliefs. Then you could be like, hey, Chad GPT,
you know this is my belief and it's really as
simple as I don't agree with that because of these reasons,

(01:14:30):
what do you think? And the kids like, okay, yeah,
that makes sense if they're really emotionally invested. If they're
not so much emotionally invested, they could disagree be like no,
I don't agree because I experienced this, and so it
could just be like, I don't think we can be friends.
The belief you just shared with me is mildly offensive
to me. And if you want to continue to be
my friend, or if you want to continue if you
want me to continue to be your AI girlfriend, you
have to change your belief So before it used to

(01:14:51):
be like people, you know, trying to change each other's beliefs,
which was more natural. Now we've got robots trying to
change everybody's beliefs. So that's AI. I'm just gonna problems.
Is describing AI in a nutshell, that's what we're dealing with.
That's AI for you guys. Same algorithms has been here
for a while, but it's being used as an experiment.
Now let's talk about how it's contained. A lot of
people think it's contained within this, you know, like within

(01:15:15):
what walls? Are you talking about physical walls? They don't exist.
Virtual walls are hackable. It cannot be contained. We're talking
about a power grade failure. I'm thinking the next power
grade failure that we're gonna have in the US that
people predict because all these billionaires are building their dooms
day bunkers and all this stuff. Right now, I don't
think it's coming from a foreign power who gives a

(01:15:35):
fuck and nobody's gonna hack the power grid in America
because nobody has anything to gain from it. The only
entity that I can think of that would possibly take
over the power grade for its own means would be AI,
because that's the only entity that has something to gain
from it. China. If it were to hack the power
grid in the US right now, sure you can say
it has control, but that's asking for war. I don't

(01:15:57):
think anybody in any international would step that border, step
that boundary. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
So, yeah, I know, I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
So this our biggest threat is domestic, it's not international,
and people are failing to realize this. And it's such
a it's on such a micro level. It's not just
you know, like, oh, it could possibly hack the power
grid or you know, systems that we rely on, or
the financial markets. It's not just that, it's just it's
only it's basically your kids are being raised by AI.

(01:16:28):
It's the fact that it's changing society on a molecular level.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
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