July 6, 2022 • 43 mins
Steven Seagal is one of the biggest action stars of the '90s, starring in some of the biggest action films of the decade. He ended up dropping off the radar completely in the early 2000s, being relegated to the Walmart bargain bins and truck stop DVD corners. Mainstream action fans all but forget his talents, but no longer.
The Kulturecast's Chris Stachiw and film critic Trevor Gumbel get totally confused and feel like they've already seen the movie they're talking about with 2016's End of a Gun. Seagal plays yet another agent who must take down a drug dealer and save the dealer's girlfriend. It's so unremarkable, we almost forgot we talked about it.
On Seagal is on iTunes, Google Play, and all podcatcher apps; leave a review! If you want to find more episodes, head on over to onseagal dot com. Follow Chris on Twitter @casualty_chris, Trevor @caseneuromancer, and the podcast @onseagal.
The Kulturecast's Chris Stachiw and film critic Trevor Gumbel get totally confused and feel like they've already seen the movie they're talking about with 2016's End of a Gun. Seagal plays yet another agent who must take down a drug dealer and save the dealer's girlfriend. It's so unremarkable, we almost forgot we talked about it.
On Seagal is on iTunes, Google Play, and all podcatcher apps; leave a review! If you want to find more episodes, head on over to onseagal dot com. Follow Chris on Twitter @casualty_chris, Trevor @caseneuromancer, and the podcast @onseagal.
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Oh there. I'm Chris Dash andI'm Trevor Grumble, and we're the host
of On Seagal, a podcast wherewe talk about only Stephen Seagal movies all
the time. Not all the time, but once a month. So if
you're here on this episode, you'regoing to be listening to us talk about
a little film that you probably havenever heard of until today. Came out
in twenty sixteen, along with one, two, three other Stephen Seagal films,
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which is, as you will cometo find out if you listen to
our show, not as surprising asit may sound, that Stephen Seagal releases
multi ful films a year, givinghow much he's in them. And actually,
I'm gonna walk that comment back.Steven Segal has one, two,
three, four, five, sixseven movies that came out in twenty sixteen.
This is one of them. Thatmovie is End of a Gun.
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Yep ye. In my life,nothing ever happens for the reasons you might
think, what one come back?That's trouble right there. Trouble always comes
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in a small black dress. Alwayslong night. Huh, sorry about your
boyfriend? Tennant said she used tobe a call back in the States money,
had a lot of money stashed away. Could you get it for me?
What are you talking about? They'rebad people. Technically it's not stealing,
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it's kind of stealing. I canmake this happen. You don't have
a plan, dear. Yeah,my planet is. They're gonna get the
money. Get down. We're rich. Yeah, get my money one way
or another, Yes, sir,I'm looking for a man and a woman.
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He looks like a cup she lookslike a stripper. I want the
money, all right now, Pleasehelp me. They're going to kill me.
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I've got your back. You cankill should Yeah, I could.
They have walked away with the money. I'm not all about I'm all about
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the honor. You've got the balls. Thank you for noticing that. So
that film is directed by Keoni Waxman, who, yes, we have talked
about on this show before twice,I believe. Yeah. I'm probably will
be talking about him more, that'sfor sure. Oh yeah we will.
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And it stars one and only misterSteven Seagal playing again a one named character
of Decker. And what is Deckerup to? Well, he's a he's
a federal agent and he's a hangingout with this woman I honestly had no
idea what was going on in thismovie? Did you? I was,
Okay, here's what I understaid.There were things happening, And the dude
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from Cartels was in this movie essentiallyplaying the same character from Cartels, that
actor being Florin Persick Junior, whoI guess is we should just refer to
him as that that one very easternEuropean actor, evil guy. Yeah,
and like, well his and he'splaying the most generic of generic villains,
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man, I mean, he wasplaying the most generic of generic villains and
Cartels. I think his character inthat movie was called l tiburon the Shark.
Well, I think it's more ofthe screenwriter's fault than his fault because
they wrote him just like buy thebook, checklist, fucking drug cartel villain.
Um. So anyway, yeah,Stephen still plays a special agent.
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Um. First of all, thecredits start off like the seventies cop show,
right, it's strange, it's veryweird. He's the whole movie is
tonally very weird. The music thatthey use seventies mid mid aughts action movie
that was on a red box,Like it's a red box movie. So
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just take that into account. Ifyou see the cover of the movie,
you know what kind of movie you'regetting into, and it opens with the
least generic of generic music, itmakes no sense. He's like driving around,
Uh, I believe it's France,sure, but it looks like Romania.
Well, anyway, he's Romania wherethey shot the movie. He gets
a phone call. He gets aphone call from those one deca dec I've
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been trying to reach you. Ithink they're trying to make him like he's
this like attractive sex symbol, likewanted, like all the women want him
and shit like that. Anyway,he's uh, he's in the city.
He sees his woman getting like slappedaround by her boyfriend. Um, and
of course what does the boyfriend dowhen interjects he tries to fight him.
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How many hits did he get onsigall zero? Because I think shoots him
in there, fucking kills him.Kills this guy in like broad daylight in
the middle of Paris, and uh. In something that really kind of shocked
me that they, you know,did they actually had an investigator on that
he was actually still there when thecop came. Usually when he kills the
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guy in a film, they justdrives away and nothing said of it.
This time he actually has to,you know, a tone for his actions
or whatever. So they're like,you know, we you know, you
need to come down to the Unitedto give your statement. You have to
sign this saying blah blah blah blah. And uh so he's I'm not going
to sign that. Oh boy,this is we're in full whisper modes.
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Agal in this mode. Now we'rein whisper and he he goes in and
out of this like urban accent.I don't know, man, what you're
talking like. He's talking. Man, He's like, he's like, I
don't know what you I don't knowwhat you're talking about, man, Like
it's New Orleans street urban like itis what a robot thinks people of the
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streets talk like. He's like,it's almost it's almost talking about man like,
I don't know what you're talking.But it's offensive. It is what
it is. It's borderline. Yeah, it's borderline offense. Yeah, I
know. He goes in and outof it though what he's going for war
and yeah that's not great. Buthe goes in and out of the accent
through the whole film. Yeah,but he's not doing the accent. He's
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whispered talking, which is not intimidating. Like, what's weird is again Segal
is an intimidating guy. He's aI'm not saying like he's a big guys.
He's like a fat guy, whichis you know, obvious the joke
everybody uses. But he's a bigdude. Like, he's still an intimidating
guy. I don't understand why wayhe carries himself. Yeah, here in
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it except he's whispering. It's comeon, it's he's been he has been
doing it this this whole time.But when he when he really dials it
up, it's it's insufferable. Itreally really well. So after he speaks
the cops, he meets up withthe He talks to the girl. The
girl tells him that, um,well, the car has been impounded since
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it's evidence. Basically, the girltells him, I need to get that
car back. There is two millionin cash hidden in the trunk. If
you help me get the car,I will give you ten percent. And
she the way she convinces him pussyyeah, She's like, I'll suck,
he'll dick real good. And he'slike, I don't know, and it's
like and there's a thankfully very shortlove scene. Yeah. Boy, that's
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part of my contract, dude,I gotta share the screen with Steven Seagal's
naked body. Oh man, Andthankfully both are leather daddy like. They
don't much in the color of hisskin is leather like. Thankfully, they
don't show much. It's like abrief thing and then it's over and it's
it's something. It just sounds tome like this was a Seagal like I
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have to have I gotta have alove scene with this woman to show how
much of a so much of aman I am, how desirable that I
am. He's very desirable. KeoniWaxman said that this is a very different
Steven Seagal movie than Killing Salazar,which was Cartel's the movie that we want
that we have watched and it's um. He said that Stephen and Suits being
chased cool French bad guys like anElmore Elmore Leonard story. Jade You and
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are a great crime film couple ona double crossing heist. Oh my god,
Floren Piersick Junior from killing Salagar SalagarSalazar chasing after them simple and cool
story this time around. You knowwhat a give Keone Waxman credit. He
attempts to hype up his own movies. Is he successful? No, the
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moment you start the movie, you'llfind the answer out because I mean,
go ahead, go ahead, Iwill say this isn't This didn't anger me.
It's not like offensively bad. Itwas just kind of mediocre. It
just was like boiler It's like everythingI could tell, every twist or everything
that was going to happen. It'slike so predictable twist quote unquote. Um,
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so let's talk about the villain.Oh, let's Floren Piersick Junior.
Is this the only way the mangets work is to work with Keoni Waxman
because he's he's just kind of He'snot a very threatening villain to me.
You know what's insane? He shotthis movie after he shot Cartels, but
this movie came out before that movie. Do they just shoot these all in
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like one afternoon, just like we'vegot a hotel in Romania? All right,
we'll do that movie there. We'vegot what are you doing Saturday?
Yeah? The streets of Romania?All right, we'll do the pickups of
Stephen out in the world, hisbody double will be the rest because oh
yeah, by the way, onceagain, Steven Seagal body double through half
of the movie. The other halfof the movie he's fucking sitting down in
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a car. So as we've gonefurther backwards, we have noticed that this
is becoming more apparent but lessened becausethe newer movies have it really badly.
But we're getting to the point inthese movies where Seagal is starting to sit
down more often than not, andit's just it's so lazy. I mean,
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he doesn't he only has what onetwo fight scenes in the whole film
quote unquote if you want to fightscenes again, it's it's weird. You
know. Red Letter Media did avideo about the fake Bruce Willis movies,
like the Bruce Willis movie Farm.Are you talking about the Yeah, the
straight to video shit he's been doing. Yeah, I would contend they should
have covered Steven Seagal because he wasdoing it before. Bruce Willis was absolutely
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long before, and he was makingthese quote unquote like fake movies with Keanni
Waxman and all these other Eastern Europeandirectors years before Bruce Willis was doing it,
and Seagal gives less of a shitof a performance than Bruce Willis does.
Yeah, I mean Seagal in thesemovies isn't even in them to most
of the time. Razzies should havehad a Seagal category before they gave Bruce
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Willis a category? Did they givehim a category? Bruce Willis, Yeah,
you didn't hear about this. No, this year's Razzies, there's a
whole category of just Bruce Willis Filmsnominated Worst Bruce Willis Straight to video film.
Who like, first off, therats? Who gives a shit?
An? They're fucking joke dude,right right? The Internet exists, and
I'm not the Razzies are in.The Razzies are irrelevant. The Internet exists.
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And I don't mean joke as in, haha, funny joke. I
mean like, this is fucking patheticjoke, right, It's it's irrelevant.
It's not it's like cinema sins,like there was a time and a place
for that kind of film. Notcriticism, but I don't know what you
would consider it, nobody, It'sit's passe now. It's irrelevant, man,
It's fucking irrelevant. Yeah, theRazzies are irrelevant at this point,
but I would contend Seagal has beendoing this before. I mean, he
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if if Red Letter Media is talkingabout Bruce Willis doing it more recently,
Stephen Seagal created the model through whichyou could do this for over two decades.
He's been doing this, right,I mean, he's been doing this
for a long time. He's beenmaking these directive video movies with some dude
in Eastern War whatever. What wasthat Bane quote something? Yeah, I
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mean he was you know, ThePatriot is the first Seagal directive video movie,
and that's like nineteen ninety nine,yeah, nineteen Yeah, I believe
I remember seeing it, Like Ithink we brought this up when we did
The Understiege with Verne that I rememberseeing it in the video store on VHS
of all things. Like he wasdoing shit in the VHS era. Yeah,
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that's my point. And so likefor them to be like, oh,
I'm so surprised Bruce Willis is doingit, like it's more surprising that
it's Bruce Willis. But similarly toSeagal, he was a nineties action star
who has fallen. His stock hasfallen so hard. I mean, Seagal
has fallen pretty hard. But Iwould contend Steven Seagal can give a good
performance too, with the right scriptand the right director. Well, I
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mean under Siege, in under Siege, and I mean, yeah, art
is he amazing in those movies?And we keep bringing it up. I
keep bringing it up. He justneeds to have a sense of humor about
himself. Well, yeah, butthat's good luck. He needs to be
able to laugh. Well yeah,but he's the same guy that wasn't in
the Expendables. He is the guywho said no to the Expendables. Of
all thought, I thought salone saidno to him. No. Seagal was
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like, well, if they askme, I don't, I don't.
I don't work with funny people.It's like, okay, yeah, but
he does the Onion movie. Whatthe fuck? Look, Steven Seagal videosyncratic
guy. Clearly, this weird guy. Guy like he knows what he likes
and what he doesn't like. Well, look at Machete. Look at Machete.
That was a fucking I could arguethat was kind of a satire.
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Yeah, but because Machete was kindof played, I don't fucking know.
That's he probably thought cock Puncher wasa real film. I mean when you
look at something like this, whichis again essentially a made for TV movie,
I mean, he's could have shownon you know those movies that show
on Sci Fi. This is theequivalent of that for actual not the mentioned
I don't remember. I don't remembermany like profanities in the film. What
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profanities? This movie's rated PG Essentiallydoes this movie even have a rating?
I don't remember it. I don'tcare. You have to have a rating
if it's released on if it's releasedon streaming, and that's a good point,
that's a good half. No,it doesn't. He could do whatever.
This is the kind of movie thatends up on Pluto TV or two
BTV. Like what's sad about thismovie is there is so little going on
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in this movie that it has runinto other movies that we have talked about
in plot, like the fact thatthis movie has Florian piercing Junior in it
as the villain, just like Cartelsdid. Like I'm not even sure if
you played Cartels an End of Endof a Gun together in the same day,
if you played them for me andasked me tell me which movie this
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was in, I'm much to beable to tell you, let's let's be
let's be let's let's let's be transparenthere. When we were setting up for
this podcast, we didn't know whatgolf film we were supposed to be doing
because we mixed them up. Allof these movies do I mean, essentially
you're saying the same thing I did, which is all of these movies run
together. They basically this movie andCartels His characters of these films character,
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Yeah, they're indistinguishable from each playinghimself, he's played He played himself in
China Salesman. He himself in thismovie, he played himself in Cartel's.
He's playing this guy who just can'tbe bothered to give a shit? Is
what unless unless you tell me whathis character is, I will just assume
it's the same fucking character from everyother film he's done. A former something
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that was really good at martial arts, like former gangster, former FBI agent,
former DA agent. I mean shit, even in under Siege, he's
you know, ex Navy seals orwhatever, but he's a cook now,
like but it understeges you. Look, he was having fun with the role.
I mean, here's the thing.If you're getting paid most of the
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film's budget to sit and do nothing. Yeah, you really have to enjoy
yourself. Well, here's the thing. He needs a good villain to play
off of, and I think you'rejust giving him more credit than he deserves.
I think Steven Seagal may genuinely justbe doing this for the money.
Well duh like that, But that'sit. Like, I don't even know
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if he cares about the artistic integrityof the pieces or anymore what he's trying
to bring to the role. Heknows that I don't know. He knows
that he can put in like lessthan five percent of a ship and still
get his money and they're still considerit good enough because that's just how it
works. And he's the bottom.He's the bottom of this curve of people.
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He I mean, Bruce Willis issomewhere near the top, but like
Steven Sagal is near the bottom ofthese people. Like I mean, I'm
not saying Stallone and swork Finger arethe best actors, but you know,
wreck to DVD movies, Yeah,but they actually give a performance. Did
you see that Schwartzendager movie with JackieChan where he's in it for like five
minutes? What are you talking aboutaround the World in the eighty days.
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No, the Man in the IronMask that came out like two years ago.
No, I didn't, Right,Yeah, there's my point, like,
I'm not sure. I'm not sureactors we like aren't above it.
It's just this is just so.Yeah. But no, what I'm saying
is that Swartznaker actually gives a littleeffort, and so the stallone it was
a terminator dark faith though. Okay, now you just punch low, dude,
punch low, but I'm also punchingtrue, dude. I saw that
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fucking thing in the theater and Iwas pissed when they shot John Connor.
Look, Steven Seagal is as perfectedthe art of making redbox movies, and
there must be people watching them becausethere are people continuing to make them.
They won't make them unless you rentthem, unless you if you be wandering
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money. Well, let's not starta conspiracy theory here. I mean,
hey, look, when you whenyou get to the point with these movies
where you cannot tell them apart,there is a problem. And the only
thing that I can remember it fromCartel's that sets it apart from end of
a Gun, is it has GeorgeSaint Pierre, but still Florian Piersick Junior
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as the villain. When you watcha film, usually you get a different
vibe from the film, a differentfeeling from the film. When I watch
these films, I feel the samefucking thing. I get the same fucking
vibe. They're the same movie ina lot of ways, Like they look
the same. They're probably shot inthe same city in Romania, like and
look, it's it's it's one thingto try to fool the audience once,
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but trying to fool us over andover again. That these movies are taking
place in an Eastern European city that'snot in like far eastern Europe. This
doesn't look like France. I mean, does it even matter to talk about
what the film is about? Well, it's the thing, like, what
is the movie about. It's aboutget another character trying to get money and
the other people that are after him, right, and it's there's nothing to
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it. Like Cartel's Cartels had moreof a plot. It was kind of
a ripoff of smokeing Aces, right, yeah, right, it was either
they're in the hotel and they're protectingthis guy. This movie is just they're
coming after Segal because Seagal's going aftermoney. Okay, like that's that's that's
the entire plot. And then hegets double crossed in the last five minutes
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and that's where they're like, oh, by the way, that's why this
movie is what it's called, becauselike a Steven Seagal narration at the end
that's like, but if if lifeis about the people that you love and
the loved ones and the and ifyou're if you don't remember that people matter,
than you're gonna find your living andgood dude, And the narration was
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so inconsistent. They're trying to Okay, one of the most guy one of
the funniest slides in the film,one of his first narrations is, you
know, trouble always comes to mewith great legs and a black dress.
I'm like, what do you whatdo you think you're fucking noir? You?
Yeah, what do you? Whatdo you think you're a Mickey Spillane
character? Yes you, yes,he does. What's wild? You know
what's actually wild to me about allof this stuff? The people that write
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these movies don't even understand how tomake these movies fun Like this, This
movie could be terrible, right,But yeah, but at least could be
fun. It's not even like thisis just a genuinely kind of boring movie.
Yeah it's not. It's not offensivelybad. No, it's just kind
of I at least have something totalk about. But this movie is just
fucking mediocre. It's honestly. What'ssurprising to me is it what it feels
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like more than anything else. Itfeels like a bunch of other pieces of
other movies that they just kind ofjammed into this. Are you thought like
a Godfrey ho film. Well,it's like, oh, we've got a
little Florian Pierscue. Florian Pierscue ishere where we're using him for cartels.
You want to be in this movie, and we'll just kind of make this
movie out of the parts of theother movie. Like, I don't know
it tell me that this movie andEnd of Gun weren't shot at the same
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time, and I'll be I can't, right. It feels like they were
like, all right, we're donefor the day on cartels, or we're
doing a week where it's End ofGun and Cartels every other day, Like,
tell me that wasn't happening. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and that
movie is better. Cartels is amuch better movie. And it's still not
great ultimately, No, but atleast it's entertaining. At least I got
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some entertainment out of it. Atthis point, I was just like,
Yeah, they're plain this is soby the book Man. Yeah, it's
shockingly boy, there's nothing new,there's nothing, there's nothing prising about it.
We know she's gonna fucking double crosshim in the end, right,
we know she's like, we're gonnawork with the villain to get to him.
We know that she's gonna fucking getit in the end, and he's
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gonna go off with them. Iyou do a different place, YEA,
Like what was it? Key West? He wanted to go right when they
showed him in qy West, hewent to Key West. And then they
showed a shot of him like drivinghis car with like the most stock looking
fucking palm trees in the background,and he's like in this little car and
there's like palm trees, and Iwas like, Oh, this is Key
West. Huh. I'm surprised itwasn't the sign that he drove by that
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said welcome to key Welcome to KeyWest. Helly what The most interesting person
of the film was the guy hewas working with that got him to the
tickets to Key West. Oh,I thought he was at least somewhat interesting.
We got that actor's got a greatname, Ovividu Nicolescu. That's a
that's a sexy name right there.He worked in a lot of well he's
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worked on some Steven Seagal movies anda lot of other films with Eastern European
names, which I will not attemptto pronounce. But you know his name
is um Ov do you no?No, Nuki Lescu. I can assume
you would probably guess where he's from. About Alexander and Wynn who's playing the
character Peewee and oh guy with thecowboy hat wearing a cowboy hat, which
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for no other purpose then to thinkit's quirky to have a character wearing a
cowboy hat, that's it, Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's
really it's really weird. It remindsme of that scene in UHF where um,
one of the guys that works atthe station that RJ RJ owns is
wearing a cowboy hat with like araccoon tail at the back, and um
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RJ tells him take that ridiculous thingoff, and he just takes off his
mustache anyway. Um, and healso asks this, there's this um in
the film. There's this spear throwing, knife throwing guy who always is holding
this the I knew Steven Saga wasgonna I was like, I hope he
doesn't say something stupid like, yeah, they were falls deep in your girlfriend
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last night, right, But hepretty much did. But he pretty much
does. I'm like, he's notgonna say it, is he And he
says something to that effect, ofcourse. But I would expect to all
this day when he says you gotyou got big balls, I expect him
to say, yeah, they weredeep in your girlfriend last night. I
was expecting to just cool, I'vegot balls, balls, balls, balls,
balls, balls balls. Wouldn't hemake just the most fucking boring Duke
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nukeamb Is any kind of Duke Nukeamesque in the person that he is,
Yeah, but he's not his Dukenukemb without the charisma. Yeah, Basically
he's like, you don't see thesestumps he always holds when he's just walking
and not pointing at somebody, healways holds a gun the same way,
like this. Oh he always holdshimself like that and everything his hands in
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front of him, yeah, andthe guns like hidden. But I think
I think he thinks he's he's holdinghimself very stoically like yeah, oh yeah
cool. But it doesn't. Hethinks he looks so fucking cool. He
doesn't. He looks like an idiot, but he thinks he looks cool.
He thinks he looks really cool,which is why he talks really low,
which is why he holds his handthat way, and which is why this
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movie is in the Walmart dollar bin. Because that I can't even I can't
even say that I hate this moviebecause it's not really there's not really anything
to hate. What is there tohate? It's it's such a not it
is movie. It is by thebooks, by paint by numbers, mediocre,
what you expect from a directive video. Shit. It is nothing like
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like um he Keoni was expecting,like Elmore Leonard for fuck's sake. That
you know what strikes me up.That's like that Tommy Wise Oh quote where
it's like with the power of TennesseeWilliams like uh raw dude, and it's
like I'm like Elmore Leonard dude,get shorty. This is not yeah any
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like this is this is get shittyis what this is? Oh, there's
a oh, now you're talking aboutlike Roger Ebert quotes, now you're now,
you're you're Yeah, I gotta giveone. I mean, come on,
all right, these these movies areso unfun that this is not even
fun. Like this movie is,yeah, goddamn boring. And here's my
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Joel Siegel esque review of the filmEnd of a Gun. You'd have to
put me at the end of agun and take me. Don't watch this
again. I mean, it's it'sit's just this movie is the first movie
I can say without a doubt thatlike, even even though I had my
issue with China salesman, which youdid, which is the fact, oh
my god, three hours long,at least he gave a shit to talk
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about. Yeah, like this one'sgiving us nothing. Yeah, this movie
is really this this movie. Youcan skip this movie. This movie does
not deserve to exist. And thefact that it's it's bad surprising. It's
just it's just boring. It's justit's just what didn't they say in cartels
that they made this? Like,what didn't they say in cartels that they
needed to say in this movie,because it feels like this movie in cartels
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exist at the same time, butone of them doesn't need to eat.
This is like one. It soundslike, uh, we're scheduled for were
for someone so much days is shooting? Oh we finished early? Do you
guys just want to make another one? That's what it feels like. Like.
It's such an it that at timesthere doesn't even feel like there is
a script. It feels like thescreaminger has just pounded this out within a
day or so. Yeah, thisis so fucking just or just I've seen
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brobble together disparate parts of other scripts. This is stitchwork, man, This
is pure stitch work. It's notgood of better films, of more original
films, and it's not even trying. And those those that you know what,
in a way that's kind of theworst kind of film is that it
doesn't even try. Yeah, no, it's it's it. Does you have
all of this money to film amovie, you have Steven Seagal, and
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this is the best that you cando, and you rest on your laurels
thinking that this is good or thatthis is enough. It's not and it's
unfortunate because just because it's and thisis the thing, just because it's direct
to video or direct to streaming doesn'tmean it needs to be bad. We've
seen plenty of direct to streaming stuffnow, which is the equivalent of direct
to video in this day and age, that are that are getting nominal Oscars.
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There, you're nominated for Oscars andwinning and all kinds of stuff,
and you're gonna tell me that youcan't be bothered to make something entertaining with
Stevenson. This is what I willsay about the pandemic. It's changed the
game. It's changed the game.Streaming changed the game. Though. Yeah,
but the stuff like this seems irrelevantbecause why are you making stuff this
bad when other people can make stuffmuch better with a lesser budget. Dude,
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there are films I made for Oscarsthis year that we're streaming. Yeah,
no Best Picture Oscars. Uh huh, I know, I know,
that's my point. Like, andthen you have stuff like this where it's
like, what, I guess thereis somebody out there who wants and likes
End of a Gun, But Ican't believe anybody would sit down watch this
movie and say, yeah, thiswas this was a good movie. This
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is really bad, Like this isthis, This is the movie were worried
about watching. I think I canspeak for both of us in that respect.
Yeah, this is what I wasworried about running into the We were
worried about running into the film.That just is cliche to every fucking step
and cliche to what people believe thesekinds of movies are. When we say
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Segal doesn't try anymore, this isthe fucking kind of movie we're talking about.
Yeah, like the fucking the stereotype, the case zero, And I
think ke Keoni Waxman just kind ofmassages that in him, doesn't because he
lets him do whatever he fucking wants. He's like, I have Segal,
what am I going to do?Argue with him? You know, he
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lets him get away with it.And that's why I think, then you
lose your golden goose and Keoni Watchmanlike Seagal's the only reason I'm getting a
movie made. That That is thereality here is these movies don't get made
without someone like Seagal or Bruce Willisor whoever whoever they are in the time
that they're making movies like these.The people that are the soul star of
the movie is the only reason thesemovies are getting made. So in nineties
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it was Armanda Sante and Jeff youknow, Jeff fah Yeah, and now
it's Seagal and Bruce Willis. Butlook there, movies like this have been
made forever. They were being madein the seventies and eighties and nineties.
But when the thing with the makingbig movies beforehand making stuff like this,
it's unfortunate. I mean even NickCage has made stuff like this. I
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mean, nobody's above it. Butthe thing with the Sante and Fahy is
that some of their stuff is actuallyreally good. They actually tried. We
have because there's a great actors.We haven't watched all these things. Um
Well, with Nick Cage is likehe kind of goes back and forth from
streaming too, too theatrical, doeswhatever the fuck he wants, and I
kind of I kind of respect himfor that because I kind of like that
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about him. And I mean,he's got this new film coming out with
with um what's his name from theMandalorian Pedro Pascal, Padre Pascal. He's
got a film out coming out withPadre Pascal where he's playing himself. Great,
No, dude, it actually actuallylooks really funny. Look I've come
around on Nick Cage, But NickCage does I mean did movies, has
done movies just like the Stuffs toGoals. I mean that left Behind movie.
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Did you watch that? Yeah,it's real bad. I watched parts.
Wait, maybe I did see thewhole thing in parts and just don't
remember. It's real bad. It'swell, it's bad the same way this
movie's bad. Like it's that samekind of like who is making this?
Where's the money coming from? Atleast the Kirk camera one had effort into
it? Yeah, say with you? Well, like who is making these
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movies and who is watching them?Like a sting? Are these stalk about
this or I talk about this?Or left Behind? I'm talking about these
kinds of movies. Oh yeah,well, I mean left Behind basically,
Um, Christian films make money.Sure, Unfortunately this one didn't. Left
Behind was was kind of a failureat the box office. Do you think
these movies make money? Does heeven sa gollfilms? Yeah, there's got
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to be someone watching them, becausethey keep making them. I would agree
in lions Gate keeps fucking releasing them. Lions Gate doesn't seem to have a
to seem to have a gauge ofgood or back because they seem to release
anything. They kind of do.They can release a really weird animate like
really weird CGI stuff, and thenthey can release they can release some of
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the best horror films or whatever inthat then they can release the biggest pieces
of ship. Lions Gate is sucha juggling, such a like a cup
game. Yeah, you like forthat poly Shore Pinocchio movie, that's poly
Shore it's not the Gammo del Toroone. It's like a CGI Pinocchio.
Oh no, no, no,I didn't see that one. I saw
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the Gamo teaser. Yeah, there'sa trailer for a Pinocchio movie that's being
released by lions Gate, and polyShore is Pinocchio. And I'm just thinking
to myself, like, who wantsthis? Who lions Gate? Who who
has been asking for this? Theyjust produce anything, They release anything.
I guess, holy shit, itexists. Pinocchio a true story, Yep,
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lions Gate's wild man. They willthey will just release whatever. I
okay, I got Nune against polyShore. I like poly Shore. I.
I I even like some of hismovies. I love Encino man,
I like son in Law. Imean in the Army. Now wasn't bad?
Oh? Fuck off? Okay,I'm looking at the cast. I
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said, I love Encino man.That's easy to defend. All right,
all right, let's look at thiscast, this cast for Pinocchio. There's
only four people listed so far.Poor John Heater. Not poor John Heater.
He's a working actor, Tom Kenny, Squirt, SpongeBob himself, working
actor, working Dmitri dimitri Ozivov asMojo Fuco as as mother Mojo. No,
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it says Mojo Mojo Faco. Whatever. What are you saying? What
do you think of John Heater?Actually? What do I this is the
Segal Podcast. What do you thinkof John Heater? I mean, well,
what do we have to say aboutthe film anymore? He was in
one or two good movies. He'smade a career. As obnoxious as it
is, is still a good movie. Yeah. I left my ass off
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when I first saw a Polaine Dynamitesand then the fucking well, the problem
is is that the impression started coming. That's like but that's like Austin Powers,
that's like more at that's like anythingelse. That's popular. Well,
when everything else gets over merchandise toshit. Yeah, I know that's what
happened with a Christmas Story. Man. For years, it was just kind
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of this tiny, you know,cult Christmas film that some people loved.
Then TBS started fucking showing it twentyfour hours a day and all these stores
got started merchandising the shit out ofit, merchandising juggernaut. That is a
Christmas Story. It is. Itis a juggernaut. And now they're making
another sequel to it? What anactual sequel with Peter Billingsley, Not not
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a sequel, not the sequel they'vealready made. You've heard about this,
right, what? There is anothersequel? Right? There was, Yeah,
you heard about it, but therewasn't a digital movie called The Christmas
Story too, right. It cameout, you know I'm talking about.
But you've heard about this upcoming sequel. Yeah, I don't know who the
fuck asked for this ship. Umwell, it's like it takes place in
the seventies something. Ralphie takes hiskids to his old home to try to
have an old fashioned Christmas like youhave when he was a child. Gavin
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is dead, poor guy. Ilove Gavin is dead. WI getting a
sequel to that movie when Darren McGavinis dead but Belinda Gavin is still alive.
So there you go. But DarrenMcGavin the ostensibly the second main character
that I just get, just dojust like Lost Skull Christmas, No,
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no, no, drub him somewhereon a winter just get just get Stuart
Townsend to play his dad like hedid play Cold Check The night Stalker.
Wow, that fucking show. Talkabout essentially sinking any of any chance that
Colscheck ever has being rebooted. Youget one chance, and you fuck it
up, and you fucked it upreal bad. I'm about to piss you
off, really bad right now.Why. I was at a video store
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and they had a previously viewed copyof the complete series of the rebooted cole
Check The Night Stalker for like thislow price, and I fucking thought it.
It's not terrible. It's really Ihaven't watched it. It's not that
bad. It's not like some sortof like most cinematic abortion, it's just
it's it's an inferior remake of ashow that went on to literally inspire some
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of the greatest television shows of alltime. And gave one of the greatest
TV writers his start. David Chasewas a fucking screenwriter on Coalshack and he
was I think in the he waseither ran the writer's room or was one
of the heads of the writer's room, and he went on to create the
greatest show of all time. Whatis this saying about the Steven Seagal film
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that we're already talking about other shit? Because the film, to tell you,
this movie is really bad. It'sgot nothing, man, it's got
nothing. It gives us nothing.That's what's another that's another sad thing.
It gives us nothing. Well,that's my point. It's like not even
fun to talk about because it's justnot a fun movie. It's just no
it's not a fun movie. It'sit's just fucking boring. It's white noise.
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You would be better off watching literallyanything else. This is the first
time I have watched a movie whereby the end of it, I went,
I've seen this before. You arebetter off like this again, Like
I've already said, this movie practicallydoesn't exist, given that there's another movie
with the fucking villain played by thesame guy that's better than this one.
And it came out after this one, like that movie came out after this
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one, but was shot before thisone. Because they mentioned in the press
for this movie that Florian Pierscu Juniorwas Piercing Junior was in that movie,
and yet they made this movie.They made this movie and that movie was
already made. What that's insanity?Think about that they made this movie after
having made cartels. You can,you can, at least with the other
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films we watched, there was somethingthat we were like, there's nothing we
could say, like, what thehell was that? Yeah, that's there's
nothing fun here. There's nothing clownon the only thing. The only thing
you can clown on is Steven Seagal'snarration, which we've already clowned on.
And Jade Ewan's getting shot at theend of the movie is so cgi shit.
(38:10):
Oh I we need to talk Okay, I want to talk about that.
I need to talk about that becausethe sound she makes when they shoot
her in the head. Oh,I know, it's so whacked. This
movie is ending, you think like, oh my God, like, oh,
he's gonna get his There was apart where I actually laughed. There
was a part in the film whereI actually laughed. It was a scene
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where he's he's going against the guardsat the impound lot to get the car,
and he just fucking throws one offwhat legs? You see him fall?
Yeah? Yeah, he gets up, He gets up. The guy's
fine. Stephen Sagal doesn't kill peoplein these movies anymore, don't you remember?
Oh god, that was a thingfor a while because he's a man
of peace, remember, until hegets to Steven Seagal. What's it called
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Stephen Seagal law man? Right?Yeah, this, Um, you know,
I'm gonna ask you ponytail, yesor ponytail not driver, But I
think our answer is the same here. This is a minus ponytail. Now
the real bad movie, dude,this is actually again, it's not even
bad. It's just like, Idon't understand. It's a point of existing
a movie that's just it is fuckingblah. Yep, it's you know.
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I used to think that Keyoni Waxmanhad potential because the first one we watched
of his was actually pretty decent asa sicklfin was actually not bad. Actually
there was some entertaining shit in it. I thought, Okay, maybe that's
later Keyoni Waxman, he's technically gottenbetter. Yeah, well, I mean
he needs to typically he's gotten better. Thank god. I really want to
see a great Steven segall film.Well, you gotta watch those original ones,
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which is why we didn't do theshow with us just starting with the
original movies, because it would bejust us talking about how bad these movies
are. Because I get the feelingwe're not going to be I get the
distinct feeling there are going to bemore of these kinds of movies. But
to be honest with you, someof them. We've given positive views to
some of his later films. Yeah, Attrition was pretty good. The only
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one that we really got pissed aboutwas China Salesman. What the fuck was
up with the head guy? Whereyou never see his face and the in
the in the voices obviously eighty yard. That's never that's never resolved. You
don't know who the fuck he is? Huh? Are you talk about Vargas?
Yeah, where you never see hisface and the voice is clearly eighty
yard and you and it's like,okay, oh, this is this a
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mystery with his face, it's gonnabe it's gonna be like a twist.
No, the when he just ends. They don't even mention Vargas again.
I'm like, we still have Vargas, could still come after him, but
I don't care. I love it. It's just it's so lazy. Even
Doctor Clawe had resolution. So withboth of us, Ponytail No. On
the next episode of Onsagle, we'regonna be talking about nineteen ninety seven's final
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Steven Seagal theatrical release of his initialtheatrical kind of career Fire down Below,
where he plays an EPA agent inrural America, and there's a lot of
there's a lot of country Western singersin that movie, including the villain played
Chris Chris Stofferson. It's a weirdmovie. It's a good movie though,
(41:05):
and it's got Harry Dean Stanton init. Here are your stant It's always
awesome. Yeah. So yeah,So that's what we'll be talking about on
the next episode. Until then,Where can people find you, Trevor?
You can find me on Twitter atbad Vertigo and Instagram at the same You
can also find me from time totime on the Culture Cast with michaelst Chris
Stash you here um and again alsofrom time time you can find me on
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the Projection booth with Mike Waits.So yeah, that's about all you can
find me now. So Chris,where can people find you? Find me
at c stashu dot com, cstachiw dot com. That's my link tree
for all the stuff that I workon. So culture Cast Scary Stories,
we tell all that good stuff isthere. As for this show, find
us on Seagal and on Twitter andFacebook, but we don't really post there.
(41:50):
We just post a show because that'swhat we like doing, is talking
about the movies, not updating socialmedia. But you know, if there
was new Steven Seagal social media stuff, we might share it. But also
like, there's no new news otherthan semi embarrassing stuff that we would probably
rather not talk about. So yeah, so on that note, yeah,
make sure to check out the nextepisode.
Oh there. I'm Chris Dash andI'm Trevor Grumble, and we're the host
of On Seagal, a podcast wherewe talk about only Stephen Seagal movies all
the time. Not all the time, but once a month. So if
you're here on this episode, you'regoing to be listening to us talk about
a little film that you probably havenever heard of until today. Came out
in twenty sixteen, along with one, two, three other Stephen Seagal films,
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which is, as you will cometo find out if you listen to
our show, not as surprising asit may sound, that Stephen Seagal releases
multi ful films a year, givinghow much he's in them. And actually,
I'm gonna walk that comment back.Steven Segal has one, two,
three, four, five, sixseven movies that came out in twenty sixteen.
This is one of them. Thatmovie is End of a Gun.
(01:14):
Yep ye. In my life,nothing ever happens for the reasons you might
think, what one come back?That's trouble right there. Trouble always comes
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in a small black dress. Alwayslong night. Huh, sorry about your
boyfriend? Tennant said she used tobe a call back in the States money,
had a lot of money stashed away. Could you get it for me?
What are you talking about? They'rebad people. Technically it's not stealing,
(01:57):
it's kind of stealing. I canmake this happen. You don't have
a plan, dear. Yeah,my planet is. They're gonna get the
money. Get down. We're rich. Yeah, get my money one way
or another, Yes, sir,I'm looking for a man and a woman.
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He looks like a cup she lookslike a stripper. I want the
money, all right now, Pleasehelp me. They're going to kill me.
(02:44):
I've got your back. You cankill should Yeah, I could.
They have walked away with the money. I'm not all about I'm all about
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the honor. You've got the balls. Thank you for noticing that. So
that film is directed by Keoni Waxman, who, yes, we have talked
about on this show before twice,I believe. Yeah. I'm probably will
be talking about him more, that'sfor sure. Oh yeah we will.
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And it stars one and only misterSteven Seagal playing again a one named character
of Decker. And what is Deckerup to? Well, he's a he's
a federal agent and he's a hangingout with this woman I honestly had no
idea what was going on in thismovie? Did you? I was,
Okay, here's what I understaid.There were things happening, And the dude
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from Cartels was in this movie essentiallyplaying the same character from Cartels, that
actor being Florin Persick Junior, whoI guess is we should just refer to
him as that that one very easternEuropean actor, evil guy. Yeah,
and like, well his and he'splaying the most generic of generic villains,
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man, I mean, he wasplaying the most generic of generic villains and
Cartels. I think his character inthat movie was called l tiburon the Shark.
Well, I think it's more ofthe screenwriter's fault than his fault because
they wrote him just like buy thebook, checklist, fucking drug cartel villain.
Um. So anyway, yeah,Stephen still plays a special agent.
(04:32):
Um. First of all, thecredits start off like the seventies cop show,
right, it's strange, it's veryweird. He's the whole movie is
tonally very weird. The music thatthey use seventies mid mid aughts action movie
that was on a red box,Like it's a red box movie. So
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just take that into account. Ifyou see the cover of the movie,
you know what kind of movie you'regetting into, and it opens with the
least generic of generic music, itmakes no sense. He's like driving around,
Uh, I believe it's France,sure, but it looks like Romania.
Well, anyway, he's Romania wherethey shot the movie. He gets
a phone call. He gets aphone call from those one deca dec I've
(05:15):
been trying to reach you. Ithink they're trying to make him like he's
this like attractive sex symbol, likewanted, like all the women want him
and shit like that. Anyway,he's uh, he's in the city.
He sees his woman getting like slappedaround by her boyfriend. Um, and
of course what does the boyfriend dowhen interjects he tries to fight him.
(05:39):
How many hits did he get onsigall zero? Because I think shoots him
in there, fucking kills him.Kills this guy in like broad daylight in
the middle of Paris, and uh. In something that really kind of shocked
me that they, you know,did they actually had an investigator on that
he was actually still there when thecop came. Usually when he kills the
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guy in a film, they justdrives away and nothing said of it.
This time he actually has to,you know, a tone for his actions
or whatever. So they're like,you know, we you know, you
need to come down to the Unitedto give your statement. You have to
sign this saying blah blah blah blah. And uh so he's I'm not going
to sign that. Oh boy,this is we're in full whisper modes.
(06:24):
Agal in this mode. Now we'rein whisper and he he goes in and
out of this like urban accent.I don't know, man, what you're
talking like. He's talking. Man, He's like, he's like, I
don't know what you I don't knowwhat you're talking about, man, Like
it's New Orleans street urban like itis what a robot thinks people of the
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streets talk like. He's like,it's almost it's almost talking about man like,
I don't know what you're talking.But it's offensive. It is what
it is. It's borderline. Yeah, it's borderline offense. Yeah, I
know. He goes in and outof it though what he's going for war
and yeah that's not great. Buthe goes in and out of the accent
through the whole film. Yeah,but he's not doing the accent. He's
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whispered talking, which is not intimidating. Like, what's weird is again Segal
is an intimidating guy. He's aI'm not saying like he's a big guys.
He's like a fat guy, whichis you know, obvious the joke
everybody uses. But he's a bigdude. Like, he's still an intimidating
guy. I don't understand why wayhe carries himself. Yeah, here in
(07:29):
it except he's whispering. It's comeon, it's he's been he has been
doing it this this whole time.But when he when he really dials it
up, it's it's insufferable. Itreally really well. So after he speaks
the cops, he meets up withthe He talks to the girl. The
girl tells him that, um,well, the car has been impounded since
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it's evidence. Basically, the girltells him, I need to get that
car back. There is two millionin cash hidden in the trunk. If
you help me get the car,I will give you ten percent. And
she the way she convinces him pussyyeah, She's like, I'll suck,
he'll dick real good. And he'slike, I don't know, and it's
like and there's a thankfully very shortlove scene. Yeah. Boy, that's
(08:18):
part of my contract, dude,I gotta share the screen with Steven Seagal's
naked body. Oh man, Andthankfully both are leather daddy like. They
don't much in the color of hisskin is leather like. Thankfully, they
don't show much. It's like abrief thing and then it's over and it's
it's something. It just sounds tome like this was a Seagal like I
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have to have I gotta have alove scene with this woman to show how
much of a so much of aman I am, how desirable that I
am. He's very desirable. KeoniWaxman said that this is a very different
Steven Seagal movie than Killing Salazar,which was Cartel's the movie that we want
that we have watched and it's um. He said that Stephen and Suits being
chased cool French bad guys like anElmore Elmore Leonard story. Jade You and
(09:05):
are a great crime film couple ona double crossing heist. Oh my god,
Floren Piersick Junior from killing Salagar SalagarSalazar chasing after them simple and cool
story this time around. You knowwhat a give Keone Waxman credit. He
attempts to hype up his own movies. Is he successful? No, the
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moment you start the movie, you'llfind the answer out because I mean,
go ahead, go ahead, Iwill say this isn't This didn't anger me.
It's not like offensively bad. Itwas just kind of mediocre. It
just was like boiler It's like everythingI could tell, every twist or everything
that was going to happen. It'slike so predictable twist quote unquote. Um,
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so let's talk about the villain.Oh, let's Floren Piersick Junior.
Is this the only way the mangets work is to work with Keoni Waxman
because he's he's just kind of He'snot a very threatening villain to me.
You know what's insane? He shotthis movie after he shot Cartels, but
this movie came out before that movie. Do they just shoot these all in
(10:16):
like one afternoon, just like we'vegot a hotel in Romania? All right,
we'll do that movie there. We'vegot what are you doing Saturday?
Yeah? The streets of Romania?All right, we'll do the pickups of
Stephen out in the world, hisbody double will be the rest because oh
yeah, by the way, onceagain, Steven Seagal body double through half
of the movie. The other halfof the movie he's fucking sitting down in
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a car. So as we've gonefurther backwards, we have noticed that this
is becoming more apparent but lessened becausethe newer movies have it really badly.
But we're getting to the point inthese movies where Seagal is starting to sit
down more often than not, andit's just it's so lazy. I mean,
(10:58):
he doesn't he only has what onetwo fight scenes in the whole film
quote unquote if you want to fightscenes again, it's it's weird. You
know. Red Letter Media did avideo about the fake Bruce Willis movies,
like the Bruce Willis movie Farm.Are you talking about the Yeah, the
straight to video shit he's been doing. Yeah, I would contend they should
have covered Steven Seagal because he wasdoing it before. Bruce Willis was absolutely
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long before, and he was makingthese quote unquote like fake movies with Keanni
Waxman and all these other Eastern Europeandirectors years before Bruce Willis was doing it,
and Seagal gives less of a shitof a performance than Bruce Willis does.
Yeah, I mean Seagal in thesemovies isn't even in them to most
of the time. Razzies should havehad a Seagal category before they gave Bruce
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Willis a category? Did they givehim a category? Bruce Willis, Yeah,
you didn't hear about this. No, this year's Razzies, there's a
whole category of just Bruce Willis Filmsnominated Worst Bruce Willis Straight to video film.
Who like, first off, therats? Who gives a shit?
An? They're fucking joke dude,right right? The Internet exists, and
I'm not the Razzies are in.The Razzies are irrelevant. The Internet exists.
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And I don't mean joke as in, haha, funny joke. I
mean like, this is fucking patheticjoke, right, It's it's irrelevant.
It's not it's like cinema sins,like there was a time and a place
for that kind of film. Notcriticism, but I don't know what you
would consider it, nobody, It'sit's passe now. It's irrelevant, man,
It's fucking irrelevant. Yeah, theRazzies are irrelevant at this point,
but I would contend Seagal has beendoing this before. I mean, he
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if if Red Letter Media is talkingabout Bruce Willis doing it more recently,
Stephen Seagal created the model through whichyou could do this for over two decades.
He's been doing this, right,I mean, he's been doing this
for a long time. He's beenmaking these directive video movies with some dude
in Eastern War whatever. What wasthat Bane quote something? Yeah, I
(12:54):
mean he was you know, ThePatriot is the first Seagal directive video movie,
and that's like nineteen ninety nine,yeah, nineteen Yeah, I believe
I remember seeing it, Like Ithink we brought this up when we did
The Understiege with Verne that I rememberseeing it in the video store on VHS
of all things. Like he wasdoing shit in the VHS era. Yeah,
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that's my point. And so likefor them to be like, oh,
I'm so surprised Bruce Willis is doingit, like it's more surprising that
it's Bruce Willis. But similarly toSeagal, he was a nineties action star
who has fallen. His stock hasfallen so hard. I mean, Seagal
has fallen pretty hard. But Iwould contend Steven Seagal can give a good
performance too, with the right scriptand the right director. Well, I
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mean under Siege, in under Siege, and I mean, yeah, art
is he amazing in those movies?And we keep bringing it up. I
keep bringing it up. He justneeds to have a sense of humor about
himself. Well, yeah, butthat's good luck. He needs to be
able to laugh. Well yeah,but he's the same guy that wasn't in
the Expendables. He is the guywho said no to the Expendables. Of
all thought, I thought salone saidno to him. No. Seagal was
(14:01):
like, well, if they askme, I don't, I don't.
I don't work with funny people.It's like, okay, yeah, but
he does the Onion movie. Whatthe fuck? Look, Steven Seagal videosyncratic
guy. Clearly, this weird guy. Guy like he knows what he likes
and what he doesn't like. Well, look at Machete. Look at Machete.
That was a fucking I could arguethat was kind of a satire.
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Yeah, but because Machete was kindof played, I don't fucking know.
That's he probably thought cock Puncher wasa real film. I mean when you
look at something like this, whichis again essentially a made for TV movie,
I mean, he's could have shownon you know those movies that show
on Sci Fi. This is theequivalent of that for actual not the mentioned
I don't remember. I don't remembermany like profanities in the film. What
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profanities? This movie's rated PG Essentiallydoes this movie even have a rating?
I don't remember it. I don'tcare. You have to have a rating
if it's released on if it's releasedon streaming, and that's a good point,
that's a good half. No,it doesn't. He could do whatever.
This is the kind of movie thatends up on Pluto TV or two
BTV. Like what's sad about thismovie is there is so little going on
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in this movie that it has runinto other movies that we have talked about
in plot, like the fact thatthis movie has Florian piercing Junior in it
as the villain, just like Cartelsdid. Like I'm not even sure if
you played Cartels an End of Endof a Gun together in the same day,
if you played them for me andasked me tell me which movie this
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was in, I'm much to beable to tell you, let's let's be
let's be let's let's let's be transparenthere. When we were setting up for
this podcast, we didn't know whatgolf film we were supposed to be doing
because we mixed them up. Allof these movies do I mean, essentially
you're saying the same thing I did, which is all of these movies run
together. They basically this movie andCartels His characters of these films character,
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Yeah, they're indistinguishable from each playinghimself, he's played He played himself in
China Salesman. He himself in thismovie, he played himself in Cartel's.
He's playing this guy who just can'tbe bothered to give a shit? Is
what unless unless you tell me whathis character is, I will just assume
it's the same fucking character from everyother film he's done. A former something
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that was really good at martial arts, like former gangster, former FBI agent,
former DA agent. I mean shit, even in under Siege, he's
you know, ex Navy seals orwhatever, but he's a cook now,
like but it understeges you. Look, he was having fun with the role.
I mean, here's the thing.If you're getting paid most of the
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film's budget to sit and do nothing. Yeah, you really have to enjoy
yourself. Well, here's the thing. He needs a good villain to play
off of, and I think you'rejust giving him more credit than he deserves.
I think Steven Seagal may genuinely justbe doing this for the money.
Well duh like that, But that'sit. Like, I don't even know
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if he cares about the artistic integrityof the pieces or anymore what he's trying
to bring to the role. Heknows that I don't know. He knows
that he can put in like lessthan five percent of a ship and still
get his money and they're still considerit good enough because that's just how it
works. And he's the bottom.He's the bottom of this curve of people.
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He I mean, Bruce Willis issomewhere near the top, but like
Steven Sagal is near the bottom ofthese people. Like I mean, I'm
not saying Stallone and swork Finger arethe best actors, but you know,
wreck to DVD movies, Yeah,but they actually give a performance. Did
you see that Schwartzendager movie with JackieChan where he's in it for like five
minutes? What are you talking aboutaround the World in the eighty days.
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No, the Man in the IronMask that came out like two years ago.
No, I didn't, Right,Yeah, there's my point, like,
I'm not sure. I'm not sureactors we like aren't above it.
It's just this is just so.Yeah. But no, what I'm saying
is that Swartznaker actually gives a littleeffort, and so the stallone it was
a terminator dark faith though. Okay, now you just punch low, dude,
punch low, but I'm also punchingtrue, dude. I saw that
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fucking thing in the theater and Iwas pissed when they shot John Connor.
Look, Steven Seagal is as perfectedthe art of making redbox movies, and
there must be people watching them becausethere are people continuing to make them.
They won't make them unless you rentthem, unless you if you be wandering
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money. Well, let's not starta conspiracy theory here. I mean,
hey, look, when you whenyou get to the point with these movies
where you cannot tell them apart,there is a problem. And the only
thing that I can remember it fromCartel's that sets it apart from end of
a Gun, is it has GeorgeSaint Pierre, but still Florian Piersick Junior
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as the villain. When you watcha film, usually you get a different
vibe from the film, a differentfeeling from the film. When I watch
these films, I feel the samefucking thing. I get the same fucking
vibe. They're the same movie ina lot of ways, Like they look
the same. They're probably shot inthe same city in Romania, like and
look, it's it's it's one thingto try to fool the audience once,
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but trying to fool us over andover again. That these movies are taking
place in an Eastern European city that'snot in like far eastern Europe. This
doesn't look like France. I mean, does it even matter to talk about
what the film is about? Well, it's the thing, like, what
is the movie about. It's aboutget another character trying to get money and
the other people that are after him, right, and it's there's nothing to
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it. Like Cartel's Cartels had moreof a plot. It was kind of
a ripoff of smokeing Aces, right, yeah, right, it was either
they're in the hotel and they're protectingthis guy. This movie is just they're
coming after Segal because Seagal's going aftermoney. Okay, like that's that's that's
the entire plot. And then hegets double crossed in the last five minutes
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and that's where they're like, oh, by the way, that's why this
movie is what it's called, becauselike a Steven Seagal narration at the end
that's like, but if if lifeis about the people that you love and
the loved ones and the and ifyou're if you don't remember that people matter,
than you're gonna find your living andgood dude, And the narration was
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so inconsistent. They're trying to Okay, one of the most guy one of
the funniest slides in the film,one of his first narrations is, you
know, trouble always comes to mewith great legs and a black dress.
I'm like, what do you whatdo you think you're fucking noir? You?
Yeah, what do you? Whatdo you think you're a Mickey Spillane
character? Yes you, yes,he does. What's wild? You know
what's actually wild to me about allof this stuff? The people that write
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these movies don't even understand how tomake these movies fun Like this, This
movie could be terrible, right,But yeah, but at least could be
fun. It's not even like thisis just a genuinely kind of boring movie.
Yeah it's not. It's not offensivelybad. No, it's just kind
of I at least have something totalk about. But this movie is just
fucking mediocre. It's honestly. What'ssurprising to me is it what it feels
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like more than anything else. Itfeels like a bunch of other pieces of
other movies that they just kind ofjammed into this. Are you thought like
a Godfrey ho film. Well,it's like, oh, we've got a
little Florian Pierscue. Florian Pierscue ishere where we're using him for cartels.
You want to be in this movie, and we'll just kind of make this
movie out of the parts of theother movie. Like, I don't know
it tell me that this movie andEnd of Gun weren't shot at the same
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time, and I'll be I can't, right. It feels like they were
like, all right, we're donefor the day on cartels, or we're
doing a week where it's End ofGun and Cartels every other day, Like,
tell me that wasn't happening. Yeah, yeah, it's it's and that
movie is better. Cartels is amuch better movie. And it's still not
great ultimately, No, but atleast it's entertaining. At least I got
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some entertainment out of it. Atthis point, I was just like,
Yeah, they're plain this is soby the book Man. Yeah, it's
shockingly boy, there's nothing new,there's nothing, there's nothing prising about it.
We know she's gonna fucking double crosshim in the end, right,
we know she's like, we're gonnawork with the villain to get to him.
We know that she's gonna fucking getit in the end, and he's
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gonna go off with them. Iyou do a different place, YEA,
Like what was it? Key West? He wanted to go right when they
showed him in qy West, hewent to Key West. And then they
showed a shot of him like drivinghis car with like the most stock looking
fucking palm trees in the background,and he's like in this little car and
there's like palm trees, and Iwas like, Oh, this is Key
West. Huh. I'm surprised itwasn't the sign that he drove by that
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said welcome to key Welcome to KeyWest. Helly what The most interesting person
of the film was the guy hewas working with that got him to the
tickets to Key West. Oh,I thought he was at least somewhat interesting.
We got that actor's got a greatname, Ovividu Nicolescu. That's a
that's a sexy name right there.He worked in a lot of well he's
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worked on some Steven Seagal movies anda lot of other films with Eastern European
names, which I will not attemptto pronounce. But you know his name
is um Ov do you no?No, Nuki Lescu. I can assume
you would probably guess where he's from. About Alexander and Wynn who's playing the
character Peewee and oh guy with thecowboy hat wearing a cowboy hat, which
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for no other purpose then to thinkit's quirky to have a character wearing a
cowboy hat, that's it, Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's
really it's really weird. It remindsme of that scene in UHF where um,
one of the guys that works atthe station that RJ RJ owns is
wearing a cowboy hat with like araccoon tail at the back, and um
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RJ tells him take that ridiculous thingoff, and he just takes off his
mustache anyway. Um, and healso asks this, there's this um in
the film. There's this spear throwing, knife throwing guy who always is holding
this the I knew Steven Saga wasgonna I was like, I hope he
doesn't say something stupid like, yeah, they were falls deep in your girlfriend
(24:00):
last night, right, But hepretty much did. But he pretty much
does. I'm like, he's notgonna say it, is he And he
says something to that effect, ofcourse. But I would expect to all
this day when he says you gotyou got big balls, I expect him
to say, yeah, they weredeep in your girlfriend last night. I
was expecting to just cool, I'vegot balls, balls, balls, balls,
balls, balls balls. Wouldn't hemake just the most fucking boring Duke
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nukeamb Is any kind of Duke Nukeamesque in the person that he is,
Yeah, but he's not his Dukenukemb without the charisma. Yeah, Basically
he's like, you don't see thesestumps he always holds when he's just walking
and not pointing at somebody, healways holds a gun the same way,
like this. Oh he always holdshimself like that and everything his hands in
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front of him, yeah, andthe guns like hidden. But I think
I think he thinks he's he's holdinghimself very stoically like yeah, oh yeah
cool. But it doesn't. Hethinks he looks so fucking cool. He
doesn't. He looks like an idiot, but he thinks he looks cool.
He thinks he looks really cool,which is why he talks really low,
which is why he holds his handthat way, and which is why this
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movie is in the Walmart dollar bin. Because that I can't even I can't
even say that I hate this moviebecause it's not really there's not really anything
to hate. What is there tohate? It's it's such a not it
is movie. It is by thebooks, by paint by numbers, mediocre,
what you expect from a directive video. Shit. It is nothing like
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like um he Keoni was expecting,like Elmore Leonard for fuck's sake. That
you know what strikes me up.That's like that Tommy Wise Oh quote where
it's like with the power of TennesseeWilliams like uh raw dude, and it's
like I'm like Elmore Leonard dude,get shorty. This is not yeah any
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like this is this is get shittyis what this is? Oh, there's
a oh, now you're talking aboutlike Roger Ebert quotes, now you're now,
you're you're Yeah, I gotta giveone. I mean, come on,
all right, these these movies areso unfun that this is not even
fun. Like this movie is,yeah, goddamn boring. And here's my
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Joel Siegel esque review of the filmEnd of a Gun. You'd have to
put me at the end of agun and take me. Don't watch this
again. I mean, it's it'sit's just this movie is the first movie
I can say without a doubt thatlike, even even though I had my
issue with China salesman, which youdid, which is the fact, oh
my god, three hours long,at least he gave a shit to talk
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about. Yeah, like this one'sgiving us nothing. Yeah, this movie
is really this this movie. Youcan skip this movie. This movie does
not deserve to exist. And thefact that it's it's bad surprising. It's
just it's just boring. It's justit's just what didn't they say in cartels
that they made this? Like,what didn't they say in cartels that they
needed to say in this movie,because it feels like this movie in cartels
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exist at the same time, butone of them doesn't need to eat.
This is like one. It soundslike, uh, we're scheduled for were
for someone so much days is shooting? Oh we finished early? Do you
guys just want to make another one? That's what it feels like. Like.
It's such an it that at timesthere doesn't even feel like there is
a script. It feels like thescreaminger has just pounded this out within a
day or so. Yeah, thisis so fucking just or just I've seen
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brobble together disparate parts of other scripts. This is stitchwork, man, This
is pure stitch work. It's notgood of better films, of more original
films, and it's not even trying. And those those that you know what,
in a way that's kind of theworst kind of film is that it
doesn't even try. Yeah, no, it's it's it. Does you have
all of this money to film amovie, you have Steven Seagal, and
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this is the best that you cando, and you rest on your laurels
thinking that this is good or thatthis is enough. It's not and it's
unfortunate because just because it's and thisis the thing, just because it's direct
to video or direct to streaming doesn'tmean it needs to be bad. We've
seen plenty of direct to streaming stuffnow, which is the equivalent of direct
to video in this day and age, that are that are getting nominal Oscars.
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There, you're nominated for Oscars andwinning and all kinds of stuff,
and you're gonna tell me that youcan't be bothered to make something entertaining with
Stevenson. This is what I willsay about the pandemic. It's changed the
game. It's changed the game.Streaming changed the game. Though. Yeah,
but the stuff like this seems irrelevantbecause why are you making stuff this
bad when other people can make stuffmuch better with a lesser budget. Dude,
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there are films I made for Oscarsthis year that we're streaming. Yeah,
no Best Picture Oscars. Uh huh, I know, I know,
that's my point. Like, andthen you have stuff like this where it's
like, what, I guess thereis somebody out there who wants and likes
End of a Gun, But Ican't believe anybody would sit down watch this
movie and say, yeah, thiswas this was a good movie. This
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is really bad, Like this isthis, This is the movie were worried
about watching. I think I canspeak for both of us in that respect.
Yeah, this is what I wasworried about running into the We were
worried about running into the film.That just is cliche to every fucking step
and cliche to what people believe thesekinds of movies are. When we say
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Segal doesn't try anymore, this isthe fucking kind of movie we're talking about.
Yeah, like the fucking the stereotype, the case zero, And I
think ke Keoni Waxman just kind ofmassages that in him, doesn't because he
lets him do whatever he fucking wants. He's like, I have Segal,
what am I going to do?Argue with him? You know, he
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lets him get away with it.And that's why I think, then you
lose your golden goose and Keoni Watchmanlike Seagal's the only reason I'm getting a
movie made. That That is thereality here is these movies don't get made
without someone like Seagal or Bruce Willisor whoever whoever they are in the time
that they're making movies like these.The people that are the soul star of
the movie is the only reason thesemovies are getting made. So in nineties
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it was Armanda Sante and Jeff youknow, Jeff fah Yeah, and now
it's Seagal and Bruce Willis. Butlook there, movies like this have been
made forever. They were being madein the seventies and eighties and nineties.
But when the thing with the makingbig movies beforehand making stuff like this,
it's unfortunate. I mean even NickCage has made stuff like this. I
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mean, nobody's above it. Butthe thing with the Sante and Fahy is
that some of their stuff is actuallyreally good. They actually tried. We
have because there's a great actors.We haven't watched all these things. Um
Well, with Nick Cage is likehe kind of goes back and forth from
streaming too, too theatrical, doeswhatever the fuck he wants, and I
kind of I kind of respect himfor that because I kind of like that
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about him. And I mean,he's got this new film coming out with
with um what's his name from theMandalorian Pedro Pascal, Padre Pascal. He's
got a film out coming out withPadre Pascal where he's playing himself. Great,
No, dude, it actually actuallylooks really funny. Look I've come
around on Nick Cage, But NickCage does I mean did movies, has
done movies just like the Stuffs toGoals. I mean that left Behind movie.
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Did you watch that? Yeah,it's real bad. I watched parts.
Wait, maybe I did see thewhole thing in parts and just don't
remember. It's real bad. It'swell, it's bad the same way this
movie's bad. Like it's that samekind of like who is making this?
Where's the money coming from? Atleast the Kirk camera one had effort into
it? Yeah, say with you? Well, like who is making these
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movies and who is watching them?Like a sting? Are these stalk about
this or I talk about this?Or left Behind? I'm talking about these
kinds of movies. Oh yeah,well, I mean left Behind basically,
Um, Christian films make money.Sure, Unfortunately this one didn't. Left
Behind was was kind of a failureat the box office. Do you think
these movies make money? Does heeven sa gollfilms? Yeah, there's got
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to be someone watching them, becausethey keep making them. I would agree
in lions Gate keeps fucking releasing them. Lions Gate doesn't seem to have a
to seem to have a gauge ofgood or back because they seem to release
anything. They kind of do.They can release a really weird animate like
really weird CGI stuff, and thenthey can release they can release some of
(32:13):
the best horror films or whatever inthat then they can release the biggest pieces
of ship. Lions Gate is sucha juggling, such a like a cup
game. Yeah, you like forthat poly Shore Pinocchio movie, that's poly
Shore it's not the Gammo del Toroone. It's like a CGI Pinocchio.
Oh no, no, no,I didn't see that one. I saw
(32:36):
the Gamo teaser. Yeah, there'sa trailer for a Pinocchio movie that's being
released by lions Gate, and polyShore is Pinocchio. And I'm just thinking
to myself, like, who wantsthis? Who lions Gate? Who who
has been asking for this? Theyjust produce anything, They release anything.
I guess, holy shit, itexists. Pinocchio a true story, Yep,
(32:58):
lions Gate's wild man. They willthey will just release whatever. I
okay, I got Nune against polyShore. I like poly Shore. I.
I I even like some of hismovies. I love Encino man,
I like son in Law. Imean in the Army. Now wasn't bad?
Oh? Fuck off? Okay,I'm looking at the cast. I
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said, I love Encino man.That's easy to defend. All right,
all right, let's look at thiscast, this cast for Pinocchio. There's
only four people listed so far.Poor John Heater. Not poor John Heater.
He's a working actor, Tom Kenny, Squirt, SpongeBob himself, working
actor, working Dmitri dimitri Ozivov asMojo Fuco as as mother Mojo. No,
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it says Mojo Mojo Faco. Whatever. What are you saying? What
do you think of John Heater?Actually? What do I this is the
Segal Podcast. What do you thinkof John Heater? I mean, well,
what do we have to say aboutthe film anymore? He was in
one or two good movies. He'smade a career. As obnoxious as it
is, is still a good movie. Yeah. I left my ass off
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when I first saw a Polaine Dynamitesand then the fucking well, the problem
is is that the impression started coming. That's like but that's like Austin Powers,
that's like more at that's like anythingelse. That's popular. Well,
when everything else gets over merchandise toshit. Yeah, I know that's what
happened with a Christmas Story. Man. For years, it was just kind
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of this tiny, you know,cult Christmas film that some people loved.
Then TBS started fucking showing it twentyfour hours a day and all these stores
got started merchandising the shit out ofit, merchandising juggernaut. That is a
Christmas Story. It is. Itis a juggernaut. And now they're making
another sequel to it? What anactual sequel with Peter Billingsley, Not not
(34:52):
a sequel, not the sequel they'vealready made. You've heard about this,
right, what? There is anothersequel? Right? There was, Yeah,
you heard about it, but therewasn't a digital movie called The Christmas
Story too, right. It cameout, you know I'm talking about.
But you've heard about this upcoming sequel. Yeah, I don't know who the
fuck asked for this ship. Umwell, it's like it takes place in
the seventies something. Ralphie takes hiskids to his old home to try to
have an old fashioned Christmas like youhave when he was a child. Gavin
(35:14):
is dead, poor guy. Ilove Gavin is dead. WI getting a
sequel to that movie when Darren McGavinis dead but Belinda Gavin is still alive.
So there you go. But DarrenMcGavin the ostensibly the second main character
that I just get, just dojust like Lost Skull Christmas, No,
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no, no, drub him somewhereon a winter just get just get Stuart
Townsend to play his dad like hedid play Cold Check The night Stalker.
Wow, that fucking show. Talkabout essentially sinking any of any chance that
Colscheck ever has being rebooted. Youget one chance, and you fuck it
up, and you fucked it upreal bad. I'm about to piss you
off, really bad right now.Why. I was at a video store
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and they had a previously viewed copyof the complete series of the rebooted cole
Check The Night Stalker for like thislow price, and I fucking thought it.
It's not terrible. It's really Ihaven't watched it. It's not that
bad. It's not like some sortof like most cinematic abortion, it's just
it's it's an inferior remake of ashow that went on to literally inspire some
(36:22):
of the greatest television shows of alltime. And gave one of the greatest
TV writers his start. David Chasewas a fucking screenwriter on Coalshack and he
was I think in the he waseither ran the writer's room or was one
of the heads of the writer's room, and he went on to create the
greatest show of all time. Whatis this saying about the Steven Seagal film
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that we're already talking about other shit? Because the film, to tell you,
this movie is really bad. It'sgot nothing, man, it's got
nothing. It gives us nothing.That's what's another that's another sad thing.
It gives us nothing. Well,that's my point. It's like not even
fun to talk about because it's justnot a fun movie. It's just no
it's not a fun movie. It'sit's just fucking boring. It's white noise.
(37:04):
You would be better off watching literallyanything else. This is the first
time I have watched a movie whereby the end of it, I went,
I've seen this before. You arebetter off like this again, Like
I've already said, this movie practicallydoesn't exist, given that there's another movie
with the fucking villain played by thesame guy that's better than this one.
And it came out after this one, like that movie came out after this
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one, but was shot before thisone. Because they mentioned in the press
for this movie that Florian Pierscu Juniorwas Piercing Junior was in that movie,
and yet they made this movie.They made this movie and that movie was
already made. What that's insanity?Think about that they made this movie after
having made cartels. You can,you can, at least with the other
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films we watched, there was somethingthat we were like, there's nothing we
could say, like, what thehell was that? Yeah, that's there's
nothing fun here. There's nothing clownon the only thing. The only thing
you can clown on is Steven Seagal'snarration, which we've already clowned on.
And Jade Ewan's getting shot at theend of the movie is so cgi shit.
(38:10):
Oh I we need to talk Okay, I want to talk about that.
I need to talk about that becausethe sound she makes when they shoot
her in the head. Oh,I know, it's so whacked. This
movie is ending, you think like, oh my God, like, oh,
he's gonna get his There was apart where I actually laughed. There
was a part in the film whereI actually laughed. It was a scene
(38:30):
where he's he's going against the guardsat the impound lot to get the car,
and he just fucking throws one offwhat legs? You see him fall?
Yeah? Yeah, he gets up, He gets up. The guy's
fine. Stephen Sagal doesn't kill peoplein these movies anymore, don't you remember?
Oh god, that was a thingfor a while because he's a man
of peace, remember, until hegets to Steven Seagal. What's it called
(38:51):
Stephen Seagal law man? Right?Yeah, this, Um, you know,
I'm gonna ask you ponytail, yesor ponytail not driver, But I
think our answer is the same here. This is a minus ponytail. Now
the real bad movie, dude,this is actually again, it's not even
bad. It's just like, Idon't understand. It's a point of existing
a movie that's just it is fuckingblah. Yep, it's you know.
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I used to think that Keyoni Waxmanhad potential because the first one we watched
of his was actually pretty decent asa sicklfin was actually not bad. Actually
there was some entertaining shit in it. I thought, Okay, maybe that's
later Keyoni Waxman, he's technically gottenbetter. Yeah, well, I mean
he needs to typically he's gotten better. Thank god. I really want to
see a great Steven segall film.Well, you gotta watch those original ones,
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which is why we didn't do theshow with us just starting with the
original movies, because it would bejust us talking about how bad these movies
are. Because I get the feelingwe're not going to be I get the
distinct feeling there are going to bemore of these kinds of movies. But
to be honest with you, someof them. We've given positive views to
some of his later films. Yeah, Attrition was pretty good. The only
(40:00):
one that we really got pissed aboutwas China Salesman. What the fuck was
up with the head guy? Whereyou never see his face and the in
the in the voices obviously eighty yard. That's never that's never resolved. You
don't know who the fuck he is? Huh? Are you talk about Vargas?
Yeah, where you never see hisface and the voice is clearly eighty
yard and you and it's like,okay, oh, this is this a
(40:21):
mystery with his face, it's gonnabe it's gonna be like a twist.
No, the when he just ends. They don't even mention Vargas again.
I'm like, we still have Vargas, could still come after him, but
I don't care. I love it. It's just it's so lazy. Even
Doctor Clawe had resolution. So withboth of us, Ponytail No. On
the next episode of Onsagle, we'regonna be talking about nineteen ninety seven's final
(40:43):
Steven Seagal theatrical release of his initialtheatrical kind of career Fire down Below,
where he plays an EPA agent inrural America, and there's a lot of
there's a lot of country Western singersin that movie, including the villain played
Chris Chris Stofferson. It's a weirdmovie. It's a good movie though,
(41:05):
and it's got Harry Dean Stanton init. Here are your stant It's always
awesome. Yeah. So yeah,So that's what we'll be talking about on
the next episode. Until then,Where can people find you, Trevor?
You can find me on Twitter atbad Vertigo and Instagram at the same You
can also find me from time totime on the Culture Cast with michaelst Chris
Stash you here um and again alsofrom time time you can find me on
(41:27):
the Projection booth with Mike Waits.So yeah, that's about all you can
find me now. So Chris,where can people find you? Find me
at c stashu dot com, cstachiw dot com. That's my link tree
for all the stuff that I workon. So culture Cast Scary Stories,
we tell all that good stuff isthere. As for this show, find
us on Seagal and on Twitter andFacebook, but we don't really post there.
(41:50):
We just post a show because that'swhat we like doing, is talking
about the movies, not updating socialmedia. But you know, if there
was new Steven Seagal social media stuff, we might share it. But also
like, there's no new news otherthan semi embarrassing stuff that we would probably
rather not talk about. So yeah, so on that note, yeah,
make sure to check out the nextepisode.
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