Artist Phil Walters Stops By To discuss his life, his music, and his relationship to the late great Sam Cooke

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the right, can't you? However, you're gonna go when I go.
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when like people steal skate. I'mlike what you may call on me?
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go to the west come lie bythe well. Maybe we can slide to
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Welcome going on. You have tunedinto another episode of On the Move.
I'm scripted, Patricia am going misterStout, Mister Stout and the freaking no

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you know me, you already knowalready from the gate already. No,
okay, so Le and mister Stout. Like when I, um, when
I decided to have this Mother's Dayevent, you know, on May eleven,
I'm so I was trying to figureout where the best place to have
it or whatever, and I'm soglad that I chose the north Um Day

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Park Pavilion here in Columbs because it'sso beautiful, Like we went down there
today, Oh my gosh, andyou know, I had to take pictures
and videos and oh it's a beautifulscenery. It's a beautiful park trail,
the waters there, the bridge thatthey have a lot of seats outside,

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you know, beyond you know,it's they got a water fountain, areas
inside, both connected together. Ohmy gosh. Come on, start playing,
y'all, and we're about to havea bomb bigini food. I've been
the freaking doing. Maybe if youcame to my album release party, you
got the taste design to kitchen food. Right, you've seen eat Long Room.

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Oh my god. So it's gonnabe even better now, like it's
gonna be the bomb, but notbetter but bigger. You know, it's
gonna be more selections. I'm soexcited. And then we got um DJ
DJ Wise coming out and do thisthing. They both were at the um
My album really crying. Yeah,so I'm excited about I'm so excited.
Yeah, I mean it's gonna definitelybe dope, a dope man, and

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uh, it's gonna be a wholeturn up for the artists that we get
an art performing, right, yeah, well time see, let me get
my conn okay, right right,we're gonna get that. It's gonna move
unscripted, right, you know,we're back, you know, so it's
still there was an art performing andyears from Columbius come onto, right,

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told y'all we're coming for you many. Let make sure we got the hottest
artist coming out of the area andalso artists like you know who's ready to
rock though in the Midwest, likeyeah, come on, I'm good something.
I can't wait to perform. Ilove a good point with you know
a little bit. I'm gonna doa little something. The place looks so
nice, like, oh my god, and I'm praying for beautiful weather.

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That's still type of about but itno matter what happens, we have to
set up where it's gonna go goodeither way. But of course I'm praying
for good weather. I'm looking atmy phone. I have to find I
know, I posted um the artiststhat are gonna be here from Columbus on
the Block talk Um Radio something.I'm just looking for the name because I
don't want to mess it up.Yeah, I didn't see one of the

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names. Was like, yeah,it was a little deep. I gotta
find out. We need to havethem on the show too as well to
talk to them, you know afterLike you know, I don't have to
bring him on. It's I don'twant to stay the and I want to
I hope I brought it put itin my phone. It's not y'all.
Hey, it's unscripted. You understand, I'm not to find what it is.
If not, I definitely had Istarted doing a break yeah you guys.

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Yes, but I'm so excited,y'all. I'm really excited. It's
been a while. I haven't performed. I don't think since physical I haven't
performed since Cypical man, I don'tthink except for you know, because of
one event I didn't get to goto. But I still did a thing
with Crystal. Yeah yeah, yeah, like eyes that I can't wait to

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go back to la again. Butum, yeah, so I'm excited.
I'm sorry you hear my tun overhere One Way Day coughed in in the
background say hello One Way because you'vealreadys put your presses out there, y'all.
That was water. That was whenyou heard a skate rock and roll
that One Way to Day. Yeah, and we're working on the needy to

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vrom and he got stuff going on, um One Way to Day on all
platforms. So anyway, yeah,now that let's get down to the whole
purpose of day anything. Oh mygosh, you know, I gotta nless
you have the floor. I justwant to say, first off, it's

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been a minute since I did speakto this gentleman right here with to have
on the shore with us tonight.But when he the first time that I
listened to his music, I wasstroll like kind of scrolling through YouTube and
he was singing a song and wasa thoughtful track, and it just grabbed
me like it pulled me in.You know, there's a lot of different
music from all different types of genresand different like formats and everything, and

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but he had it was just abasic him playing well when I was when
we were looking on Amazon to buymusic or whatever, we downloaded three songs,
right, we play for songs wehave give it to you. Look
look at loud the one which weplayed coming when and um, you saved
me. And I'm like into oneof them. I'm like to me,

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it pulls you ain't. Yeah,it grabs you gravitate to it. Yeah,
it has a really good media andgood message to it. Yeah.
I do believe we have him onthe line too. So mister Walters is
on the check in with it's righthere on the movie right. Nice,

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Nice, what's up? I meanwe got to agree composer, like you
know, like you know, there'sso many different things. This is this
is a you know, this isan honor like to have you on the
on the air with us. We'refeel excited. I'm honored to be on
the show man. You know yo, listen, you know we've been trying
to get together for a minute man, to get something going on, and

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we you know, we got businessschedules and everything. But by the great
tak oh, here we are,y'all. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Yes, So you know we haveto you may not know, so let
me just second. We have totake all of our down the yellow brick
road. I know you remember thewinds. You know. What I'm saying
is you might put it again thecompany, I know, right, So

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you get start off wherever you wantto start off that but let us know
who is Phil Walters and where didyour love for music come from? I
know, I'm listen. Y'all toldme something about you having a relationship or
a relation to Sam Cook. Sojust tell us who you are. Okay,
that's I'm glad you asked. I'mglad you asked. Those goes a

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little something like this. See,oh look at it. I was boomed
in nineteen sixty three. I wasborn to Luise Rose Walters and Sam Cook.
I'm what you call a road baby. So you know a lot of
the musicians traveled back in the day. You know, he traveled with the

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soul Sers as a gospel artist,and he went secular as a solo artist.
And somewhere is around nineteen sixty two, Henry met my mom, who
was advancer in Harlem, and theygot together and I was born in nineteen
sixty three, March the twenty eighth, just had a birthday, big six
zero and thank you, thank you, and on unfortunately December eleven, thineteen

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sixty before he was taken from usfar too early, at the age of
thirty three, so that was beforemy second birthday. I never really got
to know him as a as aas a toddler, as an adolescent,
as a teenager, as a youngadult. So y'all just as much on
that journey with me as I am. I remember the airplane ride to Chicago

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to the funeral, and I remembera bunch of legs because I was so
little, and there were so manypeople who came out to show love and
pay their respects. And I knowthat my mom was there. I know
she didn't make it to California.We didn't go to Los Angeles. There
was two funerals because he grew upin Chicago. My grandfather, Charles Cook,

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moved them from Mississippi to Chicago,you know, around Jim crow Era,
and I believe he started singing aroundsix and the family started a children's
group, children's choir before he joinedthe before he drowned the Soul Stars at
fifteen. But I am the productof a beautiful queen in Hallom, the

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roles of Spanish Hallom. As faras I'm concerned, you know, my
mom was extraordinary, an extraordinary woman. She had gifts that came straight from
the motherlandum from my elders that toldme about our great great great great grandmother
from Cameroon who came to this country. And she was untouched, if you
know what I'm saying, for thespecial gifts that she had, she was

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able to hand down to her childrenand then down the line, and my
grandmother passed it on to my motherand she passed it on to us.
Now, my mother did the dancingand my dad was the singer. But
she didn't tell me right away whohe was because I think she was so

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afraid that I would end up,you know, the way he did and
follow the career, which I didanywhere. I just did not know at
first who he was. I learnedlater on. I learned in my forties
who my dad was, you know, before my mother left this earth U
and of course that sent me fora loop. You know, it's not
like the whole pastor corn flake.You got any mail. Oh, by

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the way, your dad is saying, because you got any sugar? You
know? So what you know?So? But what was so fascinating y'all?
And and um to this day Istill think about it is I had
a parallel lifestyle like I did notknow about him early, but I had
my first business at fifteen. Iwas a DJ at fifteen in New York

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doing the whole hip hop breakout era. My my first love shout out to
call Grace Bishop Rawlins. She wasthe breakdown so she was my MC and
I was the DJ. And thenI started my own DJ company. I
worked with the elderly. Not theelderly, but the elders because they had
the money. That was my name. I did parties for the mature crowd
because they could pay. If Idid the kiddie parties, my parents paid

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for it. So I started singingsince nine. I went to the Little
Red school House in the village ofNew York. Was highly acclaimed because I
had that royal talent, but Ineeded the technique. Um. I performed
at the Apollo more than one.I'm one and one at the Apollo,
I learned the lessons because right,you know, so that um, I

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went to Sheffield Institute for the RecordingArts and Phoenix, Maryland, where I
am recording The sixth of Change GonnaCome. We're doing a remake for sixtieth
anniversary that's coming out next February twentyfourth. Okay, yeah, idea,
that's amazing stuff right there. Man, with you guys got going on and
see there's so much is going onwith that as well. But like you

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know, there was a lot thatwas like in there, right, but
we got to kind of like youknow what I mean, you feel like
you know what some of those thoseparts because like you was like working as
like you know, coming up asan artist, you know, and or
having this this absolutely because considered likea gene right, Like you know,
it's sacked down to you, toyou, uh, to your father.

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And how does that make you feel, like you know, for what you're
doing. Do you feel the spiritof what it was or like you know,
women, you know, that's apowerful question. That's a powerful question
to start. So we have ourDNA from most both our parents, right,
Like I can dance all right,I was always dance, I could

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say. And I used to tellmy mom like, okay, mom,
you're the dancer, like you know, what's up with this singing stuff?
Who's my dad? And she wouldgo, you know the guilt trip and
am I not good enough for you? Why do you keep asking about that
man? Blah blah blah blah blah, And then I would back off,
you know. But there are thereare things that I know now that I've
gotten from him. One is thevoice right one. Another is the habit

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of the sleeves, like when hewalked hard against he pulled them sleeves up.
And I was doing that and longbefore I knew about where it was
coming from. I sit sometimes likemy mom would sit right and okay,
but I saw her hit that waysometimes. But as far as my dad,
I never knew. So I woulddo anyse things unconsciously. It's in

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the DNA, so the voice wasthere. I just didn't know where it
came from. Like my brother usedto he used to wrap right. He
used to hate when we did.You know, I would do the vocals,
the chorus. He would hate thebar Bardo's like why are you doing
that? Like doing what taking thatlittle shaky, what are you doing?
Like I'm not doing anything? Youknow? Are you doing right? You

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know what I'm saying? You know? So it like what in the world,
it's just in there, you know. So if I was doing like
if I was doing something like jobback, you're whoa right and like you
have who go straight to my lover'shard me right? Always did you?

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Always? You always knew that SamCook was your dad, like you always
hear that from No. I didn'tknow for forty two years. Forty two
years. Seriously, I did notknow because she wanted to. I believe
in my heart if he wanted toprotect me. If you know the story,
he died a horrible death. Okayit was traffic was thirty three years

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old, the same age as theChrist thirty three um, And I think
she was like trying to protect me, so she would not tell me.
And I had hint. His birthdayis January twenty seconds, so was my
firstborn daughter January twenty six. Andit was the way I went down south
with Listen and I could tell youstuff that would blow your mind. People

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be like what and I'm living it? So God was trying to tell God.
I was trying to tell me something, right, And I just was
not listening. I was not listening. I was just living my life.
I was doing my thing I had. I had my first production company started
back in UM ninety nine, right, I had shop material to the label.
I was in Baltimore for nine years. I had artists under me.

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I was hanging out with Kevin Lylesand and and you know Wayne Williams who
discovered you know all Kelly, youknow at all the A and R junkers,
you know def Jam and I'm therecords warner, you know Sony.
So this was what I was doing. Unbeknounced that your daddy did it already,
you know, unbeknounced to me ofthis stuff. Right. So the

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same was like I never thought aboutit, and a crazy thing about it.
I did a remake years ago ofa Change is Gonna Come. It
was freaky when I started going backand checking out stuff like, oh my
gosh, the production company, thelabel, Oh my god, you know
wow. Right, I'm saying like, how did you how did you find
out? Though? Right? What? I know you got a movie coming

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out of my book, guys,like, how did how did you find
out? What your mama? Finallytell you, like, how did you
find out? Let me share thiswith you. You know how the elders
are right family secrets, but beforethey go home, they feel like they're
getting ready to go. They wantto clean the slate up, right,

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So I'm just I'm saying, likewhen I told you early on, like
for forty tiears, I didn't know, and I made that little joke about
past the corn flakes hunting, soyou know, she let me know before
she left her baby, Um,I got something to hell your honey,
you might want to sit down,you know. And my mom was always
that was my superstar. You understand, even before all of this, before
all of that, there was mom, right, and I think after him,

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there was no other man that shewould let us see, right,
because I know my mom lets Mymom like two things. She like her
buddy Bud and she like mm Andyou know, when you're thirteen years old,
you catch your mom act with somethingsomething something nig you know. But
my mom was my superstar. Shewas my sho understand my mom lives a

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very very superstar in life without beingin the line like she was in the
She was part of the Black Panthermovement. Okay, she worked, she
listened. A lot of my siblingsdon't understand. It's because they were in
privy to stuff that I found outfrom my mother's sister before she left out
of here my mom. So yougrew up around celebrities in the mainstream because

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of your mom without even knowing why. Without he was in the knowing uncle
this uncle that you know who thatI don't know whatever. And my mom
was she was. She grew upbeing a mother of a gangster, so
naturally she took on these these gangstercharacteristics. But she was beautiful, and
she could dance, and she lovedso hard. You know, I'm just

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like wow, you know, andI take things dear to my heart when
it comes to my mother because shewas in aries like me, and she
was left handed like me. Iwas the only one that got the left
hand and got the areas so obviousto tease others like, yeah, that's
right, I'm the only areas inpower. They would smack me up.
But anyway, um, relationship,did they have a relationship or was it

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kind of like, you know,I'm not kicking it, you know,
when you come in town. Letme, I don't know all the details.
I know he came to town.Okay, New York was one of
the meccas, so he came totown. Mama's in town. She's a
dance of blah blah blah. Sheshe she loved he loved that Martin and
she loved the music. So mymother the type person she went after he

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wanted something, she went after it. I'm the same way. You know.
It wasn't no let me see no, she she was in charge of
that. Okay. I think shewanted to. I think she wanted the
singer, so she run down.They had a lot of my mother.
They had a lot of conspiracies abouthow he passed and that do you ever

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talk did you ever well no,because did you ever talk to anybody like
a last y you found now?Did you ever talk to anybody's family whatever
that kind of told you, ortalk about it. I've reached out to
some folks back in two thy ten, and I know they didn't want to
have anything to do with me becauseI'm what you call illegitimate or bastard or

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road baby or whatever. But I'mnot the only one. I'm not the
only cook child out here. Right. It's not even looking at even about
like trying to blast nobody. Whatever. Listen, I'm glad I'm here because
he got together with my mother.I am here. So is my half
sister, Carla Cook. You'll needto get her on the show because she
sang jazz and she's about two yearsolder than me. You when you go

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I don't come up, and neitherdoes she. If you look at her
and look at me and look athim, there's no mistaken So as far
as the the full blood like Barbarahad, Tracy, Barbara had Linda and
Barbara had. Unfortunately, Vincent's drownedthan the pool at two years old in
nineteen sixty one. I was bornin sixty that that had to destroy him.

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I mean that would destroy me,to have your son drowning the pool
because mamma was in the kitchen andmaybe she was busy, you know,
because because the child can dart out. It's not even about blame there.
It's an unfortunate tragedy that happened.But I know it had to rip him
up because I know my heart andpart of him is in me, part
of my mother's. I mean shehad a big heart, like my mother.

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Never met a stranger and I talkedto elders who knew my dad,
and they said in the Royal Theaterin Baltimore, when he would finish the
show, he was one of thefew artists that would come out, roll
up his sleeves and walked the streetand talked to everybody he met. How
did it feel to meet your sister? Because if you didn't find out till

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him, you were forty seven,I mean you didn't even know you had
a sister. Out four actually wasforty two. And to be honest,
I have not met Carla yet.I'm talked about this because because she she
I think about a muffiser go.She did a cruise ship and I ran
into one of the sisters that oneof the deer sweet people who really helped

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guide me was Pastor Shirley Season righthere in Raleigh. She's got a fifteen
hundred seat church Mount Calgary. Werethe face right here in Raleigh. And
it's a sad thing because you gotpeople right here Raleigh don't even know she's
here. Four time Grammy winners,eighty four years old and still will blow
your mind with her voice. Hehelped me along in two because I was
very, very, very very youknow, she told me I went to

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be her about this time. Iwent to see her about this, and
I was like, me and mywife at the time, we got in
a car. We went up therebecause we heard she was at this honored
thing. They were honoring her,and we got up there about ten minutes
before she left. She was inthis Bentley already that she said she's giving
back because how you gonna get mea Bentley with a lease pay minute?

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But anyway, like, I don'twant this vehicle. But I walked right
up to her car and I said, excuse me, miss Seesar. I
heard you knew my dad. Andshe said, well, who's your dad?
Baby? I said, Sam Cooking. She got real quiet, and
I was like me and my wifewas, yeah, we're gonna be a
long ride back to Rocket Belt.And then she and she told me to
take off my glasses and I said, well, you know, I lost

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my eyes and my eyes ain't whatthey used to be. She said that's
okay, and I took off myglasses and she got real quiet, and
I'm like, yeah, she's aboutto tell the baby. I don't know
who told you that, but uhand she said these um hm, she
said these few words that stay wouldbe to this day. She said,
and I quote, oh my god, it is you. When I said

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so now, I mean my wifedidn't there with our mouth open, flies
hovering, you know, and I'mgoing, okay, so what do I
do now? And she broke theice and just started talking about her day
and you know, and about mydad and how much she loved this music
and you know, and then sheactually, were you're going in there?
I said, y'are supposed to meetsome people there? And it was Yancey's

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place called Yancey's Heres and Black ownedand that man could cook his butt off.
But I think his accountant issues needssome help. But anyway, he
just told me to come by thechurch and I did, and I joined.
I was in training, me andmy wife, and one day she
called me up and said, baby, I want you to sing. And
she didn't say what, but Iknew in the spirit what she wanted to

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hear. And I'm flounding. Youknow. She's short, a little short
things and I'm five nine and ahalf, three orders, and I'm walking
up there trying to be all cute. I'm like, She's like, what
she gonna do? I said,well, you know, we're gonna make
it thing with it then, youknow, like Ray Charles. And she
turned to me and said, well, Ray Charles is dead. I said,
oh Lord Jesus, I'm in trouble. And then she told me that

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the piano, I think Harold haddied six months prior. She said,
nobody's touched this piano since how died. This was two thy ten and I
sat down in the holy spear,told me exactly what she wants to hear.
And I started these notes right here, and I went into the hymn
of his garment. I didn't knowthat they set me up good, because

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in about thirty seconds into that song, the choir dropped in and the full
band dropped in. And I'm tellingyou, not just the angels were singing
that day. It was. Itwas miraculous. I was trying to keep
it together. My foot was shaking, my hand was shaking. I say,

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boom, she misses up, youknow, And it was so glorious.
I don't interest you, but Ihear that at then on the background,
I feel like you ready the bustone? So why don't you go
ahead and play at something real quick, just a little time, give us
a teaser. Okay, well,what I'm talking about now is the hymn
of his garment. So I'll giveyou a little bit. This is when

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Sam was with the soul stirs.Loo Ah, damn Mom the babe she
had been his sick, sick sovery long. If he had no Jesus

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hasting by John the cabrite strong andwhy you know any someone asked her.

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It probably was Peter, what areyou trying to do? He did a
FI sick up and Mom's like ahummed another long was be me whole?
Right now? See there ran ohlor lor long my mo. My mom

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back said like this it is Uyour going on the Lord'll be me whole?
Right? Nah? All right,so we have so when did you

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When did you um decide to releaseyour first album or is this your first
album? Um that we're listening tosome of the songs on them UM from
and we're listening to some of thesongs, Oh, I Got, I
Got you. You're talking about mI have you Saved Me and I have

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UM give it to you loud.Tell us about those two songs. Okay,
what was the first one, Umyou saved me? Right? And
give song that was my first albumafter losing my eyesight. That's not my
first album. That's my my firstalbum is on CD only. I'm rereleasing

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that song in twenty twenty or leaked. It's called Retrospect. And you guys
have really heard it? Oh yesyou have, Yes, you have,
because Tony fell in love with me. You fell in love with this.
Excuse Kenneth, you something real quick. I need I need to rewind.
Let me go back a little bit. You're playing that piano was out your

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eyesight, Javin Block for seventeen yearsnow. Yeah yeah, yeah, so
I know because he just said it. You just so. I'm just you
know, he's the way he's playingright now. I'm like, wow,
you know, like that's amazing.You know man, that's like Charles and
Steven. They're like all up inthe grill all over again, reincordinated,

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you know, kids to see,Like, I just wanted to say that
that's the real deal. Yeah,Like, I'm at all, Kenneth.
This is how Kenneth right here.That is how we met Kenneth. This
is how I met Kenneth. Ifeeling it in my school right now.

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I don't need anyone to tell mehow to feel it in my soul.
Feeling in my soul right now,my school, my soul, my soul.
Anyone to tell me I'm feeling inmy eyes? Remember that? Yeah,

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that's the song you heard on YouTube. That's on a song that you
guys never heard of the album yet, because that's I said it on in
an intro. I wasn't. Ididn't gonna like that. When you're trying
to do everything like this now youdon't care. So I had to reiterate
it again. Understand I didn't catchthat that first time. Yeah, so

(36:16):
you guys opened up with the one. Let me tell you something interesting about
that. Japan is killing that songthe last seven years. That is the
most played song out of anything I'vereleased so far. I thought Jamaica was
gonna be on the one, butJapan they love that crap out of that
song. Yeah, it's good.I'm getting my nic It's got like a

(36:37):
little reggae fit. That was reggaeguy. You know, it's got that
reggae you know. Yeah, Iwas that going to understand right, that
would do right? Like it's alive concant right now, it's on the

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move. Get the exclusive. We'replaying right there, with film. Yeah,
this is a big conversation. SoI'm gonna play he was about about
you saved me and and um,I give it to you, Lord,
Now I give it to you.Lord. I'm gonna start back with that's
the first song I recorded after goingblind. So we're gonna We're gonna play

(37:20):
the track of everybody here and thenwe can come back and we can um
get into me, I can talkabout you know what, you know what
inspired just you know this right?Yeah, And I'm gonna on the move.
Wal You're in the house when themsids wing up, Lord, I

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had no die. You saved mewhen my truckle lived and my heart skive
to me. You saved me whenmy bapen colling our Lord's control. You
saved me when my wrong took theriding. I lost my side. You

(38:28):
saved me. I know you savedme. I lost my way. You
saved me that. So I'm heretoday. You saved me. I'm gonna
tell a whore world how you savedme. You saved me. I know
you saved me from the pile.You saved me, and not wander die.

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Tell her men when in the bardengirl, how you saved me.
You saved me. Remember what Isaid, I couldn't. You said I

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can't. You saved me. WhatI was saying that I felt lest thing
a man. You saved me whenI felt left out of your heavenly plan.
You saved me when the team Iwas crowning, you took my head

(39:35):
hard. You saved me. Iknow you saved me. I loved my
way. You saved me, swimgear. Today, you saved me.
I'm gonna tell a more world howyou saved me. You saved me.
I know you saved me from thepile. You saved me and I warm

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the pile. You're telling me women, the Brdon girl, how you saved
me. You saved me. Iknow you saved me. When I lost
my way, you saved me.That's why I'm here today. You saved
me. I'm gonna tell a moreworld how you saved me. You saved

(40:19):
me. I know you saved mefrom the fire. You saved me and
my warm desire. You telling men, women, the Gordon girl, how
you saved me. You saved me? Here, my Lord, my lord,
now lord, my lord, mylord, my lord, my lord,

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my lord, no lord, mylord, now lord, my lord,
my lord, now lord, mygod, my lord, my lord,
now lord, where did the timego? Where I'm a teeple watching

(41:14):
me how to wemdther. It's clearto me you're planning to music team.
Did the tide me hurt? You? M leap the way now keeps me

(41:40):
in the farm road. I wantto serve you fther. This in my
life. All about about is whatyour name? It'll be? Well music

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right there in a song? CanI give it to you? M M

(42:22):
walking by feet N by side mydead n look to hey hain Yeah the
lord, I will happy. Youcame out and said me happy to the

(42:47):
play. So leave away, keepme in the father. I won't resave
your mother. This is my life. Yeah, all about I at thought.

(43:10):
What's your name is to be?What you run? Then a song?
Am I giving you? Yea mhead the rain? Now give me

(43:43):
a farm. I won't save mylife. Yeah. All about I ain't
done is what your name is?Words and using that in the song.

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Am I give it to you?M I give it to you? Yet
you are not give it to you? Yeah, play give it you,

(44:37):
I give it to you. Ohlong, yeah, hell give it to
you. Give it to you.This is your Boy, bath Boy,

(44:59):
Billy Fly. If I'm just chillingin the studio or kissing the leading leading
or out on the street promoting ournew CD Kenny G. Waller Base,
No matter how you played, I'mdown with Patricia and miss the stout on
on the move unscripted Baby. Thatwas nice. Oh man, go ahead

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it man, I really I reallylike I enjoyed the sound of your voice
and how the way you put thataddiction into your sound out there for you
know what, the dudes, itgives you that real feeling, you know
what I mean, Like that's whatI was going to school for for performing

(45:42):
arts. They would say, likehow the like the feeling. It doesn't
matter how much how many songs youcan make. Is how many songs you
can make that's got a really goodfeeling to it, you know, and
you express yourself that. I definitelyappreciate your your sound. Yeah, I
love that. So tell us aboutthe documentary that you're working on. Oh
wow, okay, well right now, what's going on is the is the
sixtieth anniversary of A Change Gonna Come? That's the single we're working on right

(46:07):
now. And I'm gonna shoot youguys. The picture of the studio and
working in later, I couldn't getit up there for you guys prior to
um it's actually on my Facebook.I'm sitting in front of this four hundred
thousand dollars mixing console that I'm tellingyou that's my That's a house that's too
far Dentil plane. You know Obamacare, you know something. But I actually

(46:30):
went to that school for audio andengineering. So we're doing the single,
but we're trying to really get peopleto take interest in getting the movie done.
So I reached out to a youngman whom I met who was in
the movie Harriet. The Latest HarrietTugman Story was on Netflix. His name

(46:51):
is Willie Raiser. Shout out WillieRaiser. He did a heck of a
job as a co star in thatmovie. That was my character. I
know, like he fited me tothe tea in that movie because I was
the one that they're gonna kill me. I know they are, but I'm
not going down without a fight.God Orge goshed on it. So I
met him. He lives here inRaleigh and he just did a movie.

(47:12):
He wrapped a movie on a Lifetimecalled The Girl in the Closet. You
know, and he played a villainand I told him, I hit you
in that movie, which means you'rea great actor because you really really made
me hate your guts in that movie. So he's got like a few more
to do. He's got some Netflixstuff going on. And I met himself.
You've got to play my dad,right, He's like, who's your
dad? And I'm like, justCook? But where you know? So

(47:35):
I sung the song in the backseatof of you know, his card and
everything, and we just talked andeverything, and he's like, he says,
I'm in. I'm in. Amen. So I got the book.
Write this down, y'all read thisbook if you want to know eighty five
percent about my dad. Get It'scalled Dream Boogie, The Triumph of Sam
Cook. It's a it's a dreambookie, dream Bookie, like Boogie Dream

(48:00):
Boogie, The Triumph of Sam Cook. I got him a copy of the
book. I got a few morecopies because we're making the round. Somebody's
gonna do this movie. Spike triedto get the rights in two thousand and
ten and they wouldn't give him.The Spike leag you know, um,
And I'm hoping that now is thetime because they're slowly bringing him out and

(48:22):
he was he you know, heopened up for Sonny for the Sonny Listen
fight him and Muhammad I League withfight. So they showed him in that
with Will Smith and then they showedthem one night in Miami, you know
where Muhammad I League. Have youever heard of child Years the Chard?

(48:42):
Yeah? Um that I don't knowfrom saying it right, saying it right.
That was one of the guitar withSaint Charles. I got a look
and see, but we interviewed someonethat was on that, um whatnot in
Miami. Yeah, okay, hegonna get me to Facebook Tarans. I'm

(49:09):
sorry, it's unscripted. That's aa full documentary or a film like you
know, like like a bioptic youknow, uh, you know about Sam
Cook and and and his legacy becausehis music, you know, it definitely

(49:30):
transcends you know, a lot ofdecades, um and with a music like
how do we you like you dowith a real song, you know what
I mean? So like what youdo it's in you like you know what
I mean, like as part ofyour like you know, your biology.
So we're like, look, soyou know, how do we get get
this express to other people to dothis kind of music as well, to

(49:52):
like you know, to make itto where it needs to be, because
what we're hearing in modern times musicthat feeling is being lost in trans relationships
like a different frequency. And yeah, I want to ask you what your
thoughts on that? Right well,but before you answer that, his name
is Charles Julian You fearing? Okay, Yeah he did that. Um he

(50:20):
was the same one that was onUm what was that girlfriends man? Yeah?
He look, I actually saw onelike Miami. I'm sorry. I
just wanted to bring that back up. He gonna get me because I'm in
the face. Has to get tothe question that you asked. Kenneth.

(50:42):
Um, I just talked about thistoday, and please, all the young
folks out there doing your thing,do you I'm not mad at nobody,
but you mentioned you mentioned you mentionedfrequency, right. Yeah. I had
a friend of mine here and Robbiehas a daughter that to get in the
business, and I said, well, let me hear she's got this.

(51:02):
Yeah, she's got something with herboyfriend and they he played the track.
Both of them were drowning an autotune. Both of them, the singer
and the rap, both of them, and I listened for about thirty six
and I said, okay, Igot I had enough. I said,
I tell you what you do?You tell her she's interested because my production
company is looking for a couple ofpeople to work with Keela. I want

(51:24):
to hear her ruw acapello, noauto tune, no nothing, and I
want to see what she's got.It sounds like behind the auto tune,
there's something there. But let metell you the scary part about folks that's
doing this like this. Once youbegin to sound like a robot and the
robot takes over, they don't needyou no more. So. The soul

(51:45):
is being removed from soul music.Okay. Now, one of the nicknames
they used to call my dad wasmiss the Soul because when he got in
he was all in right, heneeds all or nothing, And I was
that way. It still am.Because if you're gonna sing, sing,
okay, that's only you gotta screamthe whole time. But when you sing,

(52:07):
when you get done, this shouldbe some type of connection between you
and the audience. Allto tune doesnothing for me. I won't lie to
you, no, No, letme say this. You know with that
joint. I'm sorry. Still,I gotta I gotta stick up for the
little y'all cats. You know whatI'm saying. You gotta let him experiment

(52:27):
you have. I mean, somusic is still important, it's very important,
but you can't not let him experiment. Like if to me, I
like all different types of music.You know what I'm saying. I like
the new school a little opportune.You know how some kids can't sing if
you go that's the part right there. If you if you use an order
tune from things do pop, soit's called like popular music, right so,

(52:50):
but if it's something that you can, if you really can sing,
you can. You can do itwithout it. Why you can't do it?
Comment why you can't do y'all gotto me rules in the music.
But if people just want to sing, and we just want to do what
we want to do, why isthere gonna be ruined the regulations on It's
not no, it's not no,no, yeah it is because remember what
I was saying, you was like, because you said thirty two, you

(53:14):
know I'm gonna be sixteen. I'mjust like, oh my god, commercial
music that I have to stick outfor and field I'm sorry. I like
I like to. If you remembermy sister, when I started out,
I said, y'all, do youI'm listen. There's stuff out there that
I like. Right, there's nodoubt. But this is what I'm afraid

(53:36):
of. All music is already beingstolen. Okay, when it gets to
the point where auto tune is thenorm, that means anybody can just auto
tune. You understand, Ain't nobodygonna sing like Patti LaBelle without help.
Ain't nobody gonna sing like Chaka Khanwithout help. Ain't nobody gonna sing like

(53:59):
Sam Cook without help, or inthe DNA. So what I'm saying is,
experiment, do you, but becareful because folks already want to take
everything about you, your culture,your everything, your lips, your booty,
everything. So when you start doingthis, be careful because if a

(54:19):
robot can take over, they don'tneed you. I'll say it again,
So experiment. But let Menna tellyou the other problem with this. I'm
gonna give you a scenario. Backin the sixties, there was like the
dueling artists. People were pulling theplug on folks. Power was going out.
Jackie Wilson was one of the greatestdancers and singers of our time.

(54:40):
Okay, people studied his hair dude, and I ain't gonna tell you who,
but just look around to some ofthe artists and they wore the same
hair dude as Jackie Wilsons. Anyway, he was at the Apollo the power
went out, most cats would walkoff the stage go back to the dressing
room. Jack Wilson jumped off thestage and walked the audience sanging acapello for

(55:04):
forty five minutes that entertainment. What'syou gonna do when the power go out?
Auto tune? So this is whatI'm saying. If you can,
you can say thing now, ifyou want to experiment, I get it
a Listen when Shared dropped that,and you believe in life out the love,
I dug it because it was becausebecause you know, I followed Shared
where she was in her twenties.I'm sixty now, so it was tight.

(55:29):
But we got to the point nowwhere it's becoming more and more robotic.
And I'm telling you I watched Iwent to a junket in in two
thousand and five, and I thinkit was Kevin Laws got up in front
of all these young inspiring artists andsaid, let me tell you two thousand
and five, he said, letme tell you something. It ain't even
about showing the more. It's aboutthe beat. And I felt bad for

(55:50):
them. It becomes just about thebeat in the artistry and the artist to
human being, no matter, nomore. That's where we're heading. Okay,
you watch my words twenty years tonow. If we don't get a
hold of this, please, whatyou need with black people ain't no soul
music no more. So we justget a bunch of everybody else. Let
them auder to them right and doyour thing. The robots are taken over.

(56:15):
That's what I'm then. The simulationis complete, and I'm gonna leave
that alone. So you sent ina picture and it looks like it was
a lady or something, and andlike you like, we'll explain that picture
you sent in because I shared iton the I'm sorry ride the picture because

(56:37):
y'all know I'm blind. Describe thepicture it are of you and the young
lady that he was with in thestudio. He said, at the four
hundred thousand dollars, Okay, great, okay, thank you for asking that.
My sister that is Sheffield, thatis the largest recording studio on the

(56:57):
East Coast that nobody knows was about. Because that's the A list program over
there, all right, I havethe honor you hear me. Listen to
me now, because I'm gonna getteary eyed when you could sit in the
same place where Risa Franklin, Sack, Michael Jackson, Anthony Hamilton, Lionel
Richie, Mariah Carrey, DJ Quit, DJ Cool, Mary J. Blige.

(57:22):
Listen, that's above my pay grade, baby, And were you sure
that that picture that young lady rightthere could have her Grammy already? That
girl can say her name is let'ssett look her up on YouTube. She
is the truth and I am honoredto have her on this project. And
there was her first time in themajor studio like that. You can't put

(57:46):
a four hundred thousand dollars mixing consoleand a one hundred thousand dollars studio,
so you know what that studio's worthwhen you see a board like that.
Right back in the day, becausepeople used to talk about the recording studio,
they would say what kind of boardyou running? Because they knew that
was the heart of the studio,right So I wanted y'all to see that,

(58:08):
because look, my journey has alot of twists in turns, but
it's my time, not because I'mall that, because God is all that.
This is his sanction. This isjust saying, you know what,
it's time for you to start stophiding with the name and use the name.
I don't care who believes it ornot. It don't matter to me.

(58:28):
I gotta do too. I knowthis is so taged for me because
at sixty years old, things thatI've been fighting for for twelve years it's
swinging open now. I had thisone guy. I knew it when I
opened my mouth, He's like,yeah right. I hit that boy with
a note so hard he was like, oh shoot and listen. God gave
it to Sam. Hear me now. And when Sam died it came to

(58:53):
me. I ran for a longtime because I didn't even know what the
man was. I ain't know that. I mean, I knew he was
that they don't use my dad,And even when I found out, I
was I was mad. I wasconfused. I was afraid. I was
like, what do you do?Now? You know? I was using
the name for a while and thenpeople were calling me up from overseas,

(59:13):
from England. So I was,I need three hundred compass, I'm your
cousin people from all over the place. I had to drop the hyphon cook
And just like that Rocky with Creed, that Creed one when his girlfriend said
are you his son? And hesaid yeah, he said, she said,
we'll use the name. I'm tellingyou that came to me one night
so strong. I said, youknow what, I'm gonna use the name

(59:36):
all right. And the only waythat I'm gonna stop using it at this
point is I'm not breathing anymore.I don't want nothing from nobody. I'm
not trying to trick the family.I got my own money. Whatever I
got, God gave me. Noman gave it to me, and no
man could take it away. Orsomething like mahmad bro like a butterfly thing
like a bee rumble ah. Youknow. So like it seems like y'all

(01:00:05):
should have y'all should do like anancestry thing and try to find the other
siblings and maybe y'all can have abig family reunion. You know what I'm
saying, because you know, yousay you think there's other sam Could children
out there, y'all need to connectlike y'all have to so y'all can meet
each other. You know, haveyou thought about you and your sister meeting
up? Let me say this toyou. We will. God has already

(01:00:29):
revealed that to me. I loveher spirit. Her spirit is like,
I don't care who daddy your mommywas. I'm gonna do what God told
me to do. That girl cansing. Please listen to her music.
She is jazz. She is smooth, she is silky, she is funny,
she is serious. She did asong with I think sly Stone.
Just google Sam call a cooking slyStone. That song is tight, right,

(01:00:52):
But because of being out of wedlockyou they're not recognizing. But no,
listen, godvalidated Hub. God validatedme. We don't need I would
love to be with the family becauseof the young folks now, the children,
the grandchildren. I'm about family.I'm part I got some Italian in
my bloodline in there somewhere on mymama's side or whatever. But I'm gonna

(01:01:14):
tell you something. I'm all aboutfamily. But I'm going to complete this
journey regardless of who. The seedplanner was right, and I've been telling
people in twenty twenty two. Isaid this, blind boy's gonna try to
tell you something. This is mytime. I've gotten rid of dead beats
that I've known for thirty seven yearsbecause they've been takers in my life.

(01:01:35):
And God was like, you gotto clean house now, baby, because
they don't want you to be successful, but they want to take your success.
Dang. I'm like, that's deep. Let me write that down,
big Papa. That's deep, andI'm just sounds cliche. It sounds cliche,
my sister, let me say this. Then, I'm gonna be quiet.
Y'all heard this before. I'm notin this for the money. I've

(01:01:58):
had money. I've had credit lines, a quarter of a million dollars and
more. I've came into it.I lost it when I lost my eyesight.
They took the cars, I soldthe house. It's gonna come because
of the gifts. The Bible saysyour gifts will make room for you and
put you before great men. Italso says it is God that gives you
the power to get wealth. I'mnot worried about that part. But whatever

(01:02:22):
mentioned, whatever mandate, whatever Ihave to do at this point in my
life to serve the Master. Andto get this music out there and hopefully
somebody will get closer to him.That's my goal, right, Yeah,
I know you. I'm getting alot of interviews. That said, Eve

(01:02:44):
been doing a lot of interviews lately. They have any performance, um I
do. I think it's a lotof believer or not. Y'all my bread
and butter right now as private performances, not one on one. I'm just
saying private private parties because I'm gonnabe honest with you and we keep it
real in the show unscripted right,you're in luck key comedian because I've been

(01:03:07):
catching them. I've no I'm sayingI'm scripted right, So listen, I'm
gonna keep it real with y'all becauseI don't know how else to be.
For the last three years, Igot all these churches hitting me up on
my Facebook because they see my videosand and my interviews and my posts about
you know, scripting and being upliftingand inspirational. Not one of them,

(01:03:28):
not too was invited me to theirchurch. No, no, no,
let me stop one one did yousay that yet? One? So what
these are, what they're doing,is they're trying to pull the people that
are following me for their own youknow whatever, and I let it go
because I'm like Lord, I don'twant to get in the way of anybody
receiving Christ or getting closer to God. And God reveals something to me about

(01:03:52):
a few weeks ago, and I'mstarting to block them because, you know
what, I don't have to validatemyself with nobody. But I am a
minister. I minister through music,and I am actually also an ordained minister.
The church I used to be under, I had the honor of marrying
the pastor at the time. Itwas so weird though I'm married, but

(01:04:12):
you know, usually the other wayaround. But they not. I haven't
been in listened the way the churchesand mega churches, the big churches are
today. You have to have arecord deal to come in the church,
and saying that is the most craziestthing I've ever heard in my life.
So listen, I don't want arecord deal. I have my own production
company, I have my own recordingstudio. The only thing a label could

(01:04:35):
do for me is distribution, promotion, and publicity. So if I can't
get it, if I'm not inyour church because I ain't signed a Sony
wanna chat or somebody I don't needto be in your church. I'll go
right down into the nastiest, funkiestdangerous hood, set up my keyboards and
minister, and I've done it.I've done it, and I would continue

(01:04:57):
to do it, because if youain't going in the highways in the bibeway,
I'm abody impressed with you anyway.I yield the mic. I hear
that. Too many faking phony outhere, y'all. Come on, somebody
help me. Too many faking phony, preaching to the choir, sleeping with
the choir. I'm anna call itlike I know it because I've been doing

(01:05:18):
it for twenty something years now,okay, And I'm gonna tell you why
people don't want to be around me. And maybe I don't know. After
the day you'll be like, nah, I can't hear on that. Nacho.
God got me on some Jeremiah,Isaiah and David stuff right now,
and I don't want to do it, but I will do. Let me,

(01:05:38):
let me let me break in therereal quick, let me jump,
let me I'm only jumping there.Let me say this right, if you
got have told you to do somethinglike, let's let's keep it one hundred.
If God has told you to dosomething, and you know God has
told you to do this, like, ain't no doubt in your mind?
Is no no doubt, then pleasedo what you gotta tell you to do

(01:06:00):
because you don't want those Gina experience. You know what? Did you right?
You're right? But I'll be havingmy I'll be having my mosest moment.
I ain't gonna lie I ask youknow what I'm saying. I'll be
having my mosest moment. You knowI mean truth be told listening. I've

(01:06:21):
been physically blind for seventeen years,but it took my physical blindness from my
spiritual eyes to open heard that quietright there. I'm gonna tell you talking
about a lot of people don't know. Most people in the ministry don't want

(01:06:44):
blind people in their church if theyain't living right because blind people seem I
have been placed in corners. Ihave been I have been left alone with
a crowd of people because they didn'tknow how to act or respond around a
blind person with the devil. Igot a question too, I got a

(01:07:06):
qussion and I don't know, Idon't know. It's probably off the cuff,
But um, do you do youdream? Do you you have dreams?
Do you see in color? Oldman will have dreams, young men
will happen. Yes, technic color. I'm talking about serious color. When
I go off to my eyesight,I went into a depression and I'm gonna

(01:07:28):
tell you something about my Listen ifyou ever listen to Chaka Khan interview,
she was on the um Cameron Halland I will be on there soon.
It's it's it's destiny God. Iheard that woman's first her second show,
and I was like, her voiceit reached out to me, and I
was like, I'm gonna be onthat show. And I'm like, really,
you know, but listen, Iwas in a major depression. I'm
like, when I do it,I do it all the way. So

(01:07:49):
I said, I'm gonna do thedepression thing. I'm I'm gonna master this
thing. For two years. Godhad me by himself. I sold a
forty plus thousand dollars studio for eighthundred bucks to a church, and they
robbed the rest of my stuff,took my masters, took the stuff I
told him not to take. That'sthe story for another show. But anyway,
God showed me visions. God showedme COVID. I didn't know what

(01:08:11):
it was. There was thousands ofbeds. When people innovated in various positions,
they were frozen, they couldn't move. And then when COVID came,
God revealed to me that's what heshowed me. There's other things that he
showed me that we won't talk aboutright now because I ain't trying to spook
y'all out. But yes, corn, yeah there is a question. Yes,

(01:08:36):
yeah, we didn't. The Bibledon't lie. It does not lie.
The Bible. God said, letlet my word be true, let
it be Man be alive. Whenhe talked about those visions in those dreams
and who was gonna have him,he was not playing. That was and
still vivid like now they're they're they'restill vivid. But when God had me

(01:09:00):
to himself and I was not outhere, you know, doing this and
doing that, there was so strong. Like I saw the new construction in
New York and I called my brotherwhen I said, craned all over New
York. He said, yeah,why, I said, how you think
I know? He said, howyou know? I said, I dreamed
about it. I dreamt about theNew Yankee Stadium. I was like,
I'm sorry, they're gonna care downthe house, the roof. At least

(01:09:20):
keep the facade, you know.And then I stopped questioning God, I
stopped questioning them because before and Ihad sight, I wasn't sure what this
was. I was like, what, what you know? Did I have
too much to drink? I don'twait him. I didn't drink that night.
You know, I don't smoke,So what's going on here? But
when he had me to himself,he put me in a cocoon and he

(01:09:43):
poured into me, and then helet that butterfly break loose. But it's
his butterfly because we were created thisworship. We were created to stirve.
And I've never been more focused inphysical blindness, ring deep, but I
gotta, I gotta. I wantto take a quick neither break on that

(01:10:06):
so I can ponder and think aboutit. Felt Walter's in the house.
Fun to move unscripted it it sprucesip right here, baby, don't get
something? You got me on thatone, So I'll be right back.
Councl counc councl my money clean?What about keep out? And don't say

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I ain't it don't on my dayI ain't need fun change, and I
think that pianos play on the keyof life. Has the dabbled in these
streets withou achieved White twenty twenty tunnelfishing, I could see the lights open
that my guard giving talent helped melead a life ships around hung even right

(01:11:10):
now, this is more like theletter. You can read the kite for
every inmate lockdown and can't breathe thenight I'm plus from ron Ball Clays.
I can see the fight. I'mrunning the wild though I have to stop
me and seeing gum boys at atraffic stop, back guard stash box where
I had to glotch the look freeto height the summer, have now one
at the top, Huck. Yousee I spit it for the coach up

(01:11:32):
surrounded by the face in the industrywith both inch coast fine Shinda sipping thousand
dollars champagne glass with the coasters.That's fine wood. If you didn't know
I didn't, Louie cast me outof town when I hit the road,
and see my facial earth flyer ata different show Real talk one day you'll
get it. Dull and h anddeep hound, Who yall did to change?

(01:12:01):
That on set it, but you'regoing on my day. Ain't any
change I like it fall. Iain't ever hurt my fame seeing me the
fi kid on the time, stillkid on the fly, and they ain't

(01:12:26):
e a same thing, seem now. It isn't out of same, It
isn't out of that first class aboutthe border flight, long days, even
longer nights. My ex and thesex says you wanted vite. It ain't
the only thing you wanted right now. I'm good mind, keep my mind

(01:12:50):
class. It's like they wanted niggaback because my times and it really hurt.
The label hit me rapping on me, shining head still moving backs about
the trap for some side. Yeahthis James in the dickshad pain and affliction
thing, but it's six and Irunning hotty dollars. Make change in the
system because that could have been me. I laid out in prison now black

(01:13:12):
dude, lawyer because I'm caught bowncalled man. They got me channeling my
short snapped or reminiscent back then.We was all down now to love laws
and we all on our own wild. I just do whistle my mama smile.
I was and I worn't even harder. So my mama's proud. And
that's evidence I'm killing them, noevidence, no evidence. Brooklyn's mind dead.
President, I'm not, I'm me. I'm I'm not, I'm not

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Ah. How do you see me? To love him? The proof that

(01:14:29):
I can't live without? How muchmore times in me? I know what
I did was wrong, but I'mso used to be in love one that's
her first. And now that Iknow that you loved this room, so

(01:14:50):
you trust, I have plain dantime O it's by by all loved the
ground me how much feel it?I'm downish, God, I can't help

(01:15:15):
me. I've got to get beefback had gotta can't everything. I gotta
can't. Ever, I've gotta getanything of beef back happing, I gotta
get anything I can't gotta get fitup back happen what happened? Now?

(01:15:48):
I want to tell you how muchI appreciate. But every time I try
something for me, be funerful.Just come through that again. I'm rather
happy, by fuck the twiskin ofseven and I'm top time. I need

(01:16:15):
telling me by might be too lateand you need some bab cho song by
bye about telling me how much willbe but I can't tell me. I

(01:16:45):
can't get me the be bath heaven. Gotta can't every gotta can't ever gotta
can't every back got he can't evercan't goody can't I gotta get rid of

(01:17:09):
me? Back happen? What ifa way would make you feel bad?
My old, my friend, myown my friend? Never we have what

(01:17:45):
in the love? Oh? HI got a little letter up it please

(01:18:35):
you y, It'll be okay backnight the thunder the word spoke to play
to me and I'm sending it.Say no want to hear the play all

(01:18:59):
alone? No one can see noday when we're talking to you. But
they won't but they wont. Onebut they won, but they won,
but they won't. One but theywon. One but they wont but they

(01:19:20):
won't. One but they won't one. You know the one, the number
one, one four high one.Check my little nail back the other day.

(01:19:53):
Never see a letter set in me? Youre it's okay. There was
nothing from the cinder suppliers. Thething I pulled up the letter in the
bed. It's a gad. Noone can hear the dry No all alone,

(01:20:18):
don't want to see okay, wejust get no one can hear the
dry the bring moon. No onecan hear your pay but they won't,

(01:20:39):
but they won't. One but wonbut they wont, but they won't.
One but they wont. One butthey wont they won't. One you know
the one, the non the oneone high one, that one, the

(01:21:10):
one on the love one, thatone one you know that one number one
one high on the move underscript scripted. Yeah, I love that. That

(01:21:51):
was the one. That was theone that he said, the hottest song
that he put out right all aroundthe world. Yeah, still spender No
Phil Walter's is in the house withmy head on you got I'm doing too
much at one time. I lovethat. I love that. I love

(01:22:11):
it. So can you tell Aswe get ready to wind up our interview
for today, can you tell usplease where they can find your music?
I know I got it off ofAmazon Music, but where all you have
the website? And what words ofwisdom would you give to another artist?
Oh? I love trying to loveit visit I love it and I love

(01:22:32):
it. Thank you so much,first of all for both of you for
having me on your show, andyoung lady, I gotta check out what
you do because I've been hearing youtalk about being in the show, and
I'm hiring everything and y'all gotta getme on that stage, yall, you
gotta put me in the program.A D eleven for Mother's Day. I'm

(01:22:54):
doing a Mother's Day event where I'llbe performing and I actually I have two
artists out of Columbus on the performingand as Carrillo and Banks, and they're
really um doing their new song BlackQueen. So I'm excited because yeah,
okay, So to your question,to your questions, UM, check my

(01:23:16):
Spotify because y'all got robbed, likewhat you what you found? That's my
first album. I got two albumsout and about six singles. Spotify has
collections. They had to they know, they changed the rules, so one
time they had me have been usedthe same name. I checked Designs so
Philip Walters. But then they changedsomething else so I could use the phil
Walters, So you got me upthere as Phil Walters and Philip Walters.

(01:23:40):
The other album is is Your Everythingto Me? You gotta check that project
out. That's my latest, andthen I got about six singles up there.
So Spotify is the place to go. It's all in one place.
Apple Music is kind of in twodifferent places. Amazon is in two different
places. YouTube it's not all there, but you know, but Spotify would

(01:24:01):
be the place to go to haveeverything in one place. On social Instagram,
Phil Walter's music that connects you toInstagram and it's also connected to my
Facebook. Facebook is Phil Walters right, My website. I haven't been on
in a while because I don't likethe way people control things with the algorithms.
So because Facebook is alive, soI do more Facebook than anything because

(01:24:25):
it's the interaction. They really havethat thing right. The audio is second
to none, so that's why Ido Facebook. Instagram is too hard for
my for my screen reader for leblind, so I use Facebook. But it's
connected now. So if you areon my Instagram at Phil Walter's music,
you'll find out what I'm doing onFacebook, and y'all can follow the journey

(01:24:46):
and far as the music. YouSaved Me was the first album I released
after losing my eyesight on Valentine's Daytwo thousand and six. Your Everything to
Me was the second album, thenthe singles Life, which is a socially
conscious song about police brutality and blackon black crime. Life You can find

(01:25:08):
that stuff on YouTube. Stronger thanI've ever been. Minister to me,
Minister to me. That's my CalypsoGospel. I released a remake of my
dad's song with the soul Stirrs.Jesus gave me water, which I was
honored to get permission for me andmy old nats. I also released a

(01:25:30):
remake of the Little Drummer Ball.I put my own spin on it that
you can find on YouTube. Modifiesall on there as well. A Change
Gonna Come. It's coming out ontwenty twenty four February twenty twenty four,
that will be the sixtieth year anniversary. T Paine just did a version not
long ago, so check it out. He did a great job on it.
I'm proud of that young man forwhat he did. Now I'm gonna

(01:25:55):
get to the words of wisdom forother artists first and almost. You can
do what you can do your thing. You can reach for the stars,
right you can? You can.God gave us the ability to create.
He's to create or right he createdus right. I think run Dam said
it when he would get that songdown with the king. You know what

(01:26:16):
I'm saying. If a king beingme then the King I be right.
We put limits on ourselves and weground ourselves because we don't believe that all
things are possible through Christ with strengthensmean, we say it, but then
we put ourselves and we put Godin a box. Don't put God in
a box. Right for the youngcats out here, please, you can

(01:26:36):
do this. You can do this, young sisters. You can do this.
You can be entrepreneurs, you canmake multimens and you can hopefully reach
back and help somebody. But youcan do it, and you don't have
to die. Okay, Pop,come the most dangerous occupation. People go
receive and fight wars and come back. We lost, We lost, Pops

(01:27:00):
smoke. That was disgusting. Okay, Young Dolph is gone. His kids
don't have a father. What's themigo? The megos? What's your kid
from the mego? This is ridiculous. Okay, stop the nonsense. Everybody
is a piece for everybody. There'sseven billion people on the planet, right,
there's enough for everybody. We can't, we can't. We gotta stop
killing each other, right, dowhat it is that we were created to

(01:27:24):
do. Okay, and it's damnshow. Ain't murdering one another? So
make your money, reach for thestars, but treat life precious. Because
if we don't treat ourselves as preciousgifts, how are we gonna convince somebody
else. So please do your thing, get your clothing line together, get
your music at your production company,because man, let me tell you something.
I'm gonna tell you'll something. ThankGod for the for the technology here

(01:27:47):
today that we have. Right,pro tools, logic. Log can save
my life because I'm telling you I'mdoing stuff in logic now because I can
see again with my ears. Inlogic, you can do it. Movie
scores and logic. That's what mostof the kids are using. Pro tuns
and logic right, very creative.I've heard some great stuff and yet some
stuff with auto tune. But alot of stuff I heard that I loved.

(01:28:10):
They weren't killing it. It wasan auto tune to death right.
That tune was created for a minorinfraction. If you had good quality and
you had a couple of hiccups,you would auto tune them small parts.
It was never created to take overthe whole song. And I've heard some
great stuff with the whole It's justprotect your protect your work, copyright your

(01:28:30):
work. People because the thieves willsteal it. Okay, right, learn
those contracts before you sign it.Don't be don't be a victim of what
happened to TLC and all the others. Right, read them contract. If
they don't let you take it home, don't sign it. Get you an
entertainment lawyer. Go online. Theygot these things that you can go into,
these programs with it that I forgot, lawyers on whatever. Whatever.

(01:28:53):
You can pay a small fee andbe part of the lawyer pool. Right,
protect your work. You worked hardfor it. Oh, last,
but not least, those who arestealing, stop stealing. If you're gonna
say that somebody's work, pay them. If you're gonna pay somebody's work,
pay them. Okay, that's whatI do. Pay them because let me

(01:29:15):
tell you, so, what happenedto Forrell should have been a warning to
everybody. Okay. And that boythrew him under the buck, That thick
kid threw him under the bus tothe two seven million dollars. Oh I
was drunk, No, you wasn'twell. Yeah, for the song,
like they they pretty much reproduced thatsong without talking to the gay family,

(01:29:42):
didn't get permission. Everybody knew whatit was now, for real, I
believe him. He said he waspaying homage right, Thick threw him under
the buck. I ain't no,I ain't know nothing. I was drunk.
You're a liar, y'all published thatthe truth faint in you now,
I would say to my man,for real, don't let that stop you
from coming back out. Baby,You got to create activity up to wazoo,
get your big hat on, getback in the studio and give us

(01:30:03):
another happy right, right, becausewe're gonna fall. We're gonna fall the
right this man who will fall seventimes, just get up, you lunch
your lesson right now? Pay people. Before I'm gonna say this, give
me one second before Gil Scott Herondied. I saw him live. Now,
I'm gonna tell you I love everybody. But he put Kanye on blast

(01:30:26):
because Kanye W was sampling his musicand not paying. Wow, pay the
bill, pay to pay to payto pay to pay the bill? Right?
Because we work far to the studio, right, artists, right,
y'all? Right, artists, youwork hard. How was in the studio
and somebody come along in two secondsand sample your stuff? Come on now,
yeah, Pam, I do tracklim you know it's tons of music

(01:30:49):
on there, and you gotta payfor the sample if you get the record.
If you don't say, if youdon't pay for the sample, you
will be sued. And it's happyevery time. You should two. Yeah,
because somebody came in your job,so another somebody wants to beech out

(01:31:15):
to you to actually hire you.How would they reach out to you?
Hit me up? Hit me upon my on my email that is soundcast
Productions at gmail dot com, sO U N D D A S T
Productions within s at gmail dot com. They can hit me up through Messenger

(01:31:38):
on Facebook, right, Instagram.Um, um, d M. I
didn't even know what that was ajob till about four months ago. They're
like, Yo, I'm a dM. You. I'm like, what's
that? You know, what's that? That? Medicine and ingredient and rob
test them. I'm a d M. You like then finally, oh,
direct message, y'all don't hold.So those are ways you can reach out
to me, and um, youknow, I'm so I thank god y'all

(01:32:00):
that you know, I've been gettinga lot of work. I also write
and produced. You know, Ihave one hundred and seventy six songs.
I mean, release ship because Godhas stopped and get out in front of
people now. So that's what I'mdoing. That's what I'm doing. I
love what I do. I lovethere's so many young folks I get doing
some great stuff or I'm loving it. I'm loving it but listening. So

(01:32:21):
this is a new day. Thewhole industry is not what it used to
be. You could be a multimiaand not even have a platinum gold record.
Come on now, all right,you're gonna work hard, but it's
there for you. It's there foryou. So I'm so happy that you
came on today. We really appreciateyou. Yeah, it's like we have

(01:32:44):
um, you know men a legendbecause you know you are the child of
a legend. You know what I'msaying. That's just like that's the rightful
title you get just because you artists. It's time like yeah, so who
we'll hear more from some there's otherchildren that are out there that, like

(01:33:06):
you said, there's more um ofhis offfering, which means they probably just
a can you and his sister andyour sisters. I'm happy that we had
my sister. Can I say onelast thing in closing. Yes, there,
I don't. I'm not comfortable withbeing called a legend. My dad

(01:33:28):
earned it. I have to earnit. I can't just get it by
procty. I hope by the timeI'm done, I can honestly say that
for my work. Now, I'mgonna push his work forward because I love
my dad's music. Oh my gosh, I love it, and I perform
it for and when I perform itfor the seniors. There are people with
Alzheimer's they don't remember their name.But when I go back to sixties and

(01:33:53):
I do, like we're having aparty or you know, changing or something,
they remember and they know all thewords. And that just brings me
such joye. But I have toearn it, Darling, Okay, I
have to earn it. Okay,well, I take it back. But
what's here for your flowers? Righthere? Thank you for that. That's

(01:34:20):
what un so you have basically hadan awesome, awesome interview, mister phil
and and I'm really on honor thatmister South that you brought him to on
the move unscripted, you know,and so um many blessings to you,

(01:34:40):
um you know, and getting beforein your career and what you're doing.
I really pray that listening y'all.Somebody outsail Hollywood, la at California.
Hey, what's up Christmas? Yeah? Call you Yes, yelled to get

(01:35:00):
Tess with Phil Walking so that canget this this movie film documentary up and
post. Y'all pray for that,y'all pray everybody else got the movie.
But Sam, think about the researchRay Charles, you know, little Richard
you know what I'm saying. Um, you know, I mean, they
deserve it, but it's his time. Now tell the story. Stop holding
back, right, tell the story. Great music, two careers, a

(01:35:24):
gospel career and a secular career.Come on, now, how many people
did that? Right? And theyoung folks need to know. Like most
kids I talked to, they onlyknow one song. A change gonna come
because of the movies had been in. Batman got a catalog. I sang
most of the songs. I mean, he wrote chain ganging because it's a
prison situation back then, right,Yeah, And Lou Rawls was the baritone.

(01:35:47):
Did y'all know that he did thebackground baritone and that song that's Lou
raw So I'm gonna mean y'all inHollywood or Atlanta or Chicago or somewhere to
go ahead and get that to him. Definitely go and check out his music,

(01:36:11):
his albums, you know, justyou know, and and also just
if you've never heard of Sam couldgo on YouTube. There's a lot of
different um little information, little videoelse is talking about his life, and
you'll see how big of a dealwe are. You know, it is
what we're really talking about. Whatwe've got to understand the power behind the
interview and who we're interviewing, whatwe're talking about. Yeah, I am

(01:36:33):
so happy that you selected on themove. I'm scripted as one of the
platforms to tell your story and I'mcoming to coming definitely your puel want to
cook fact letting I mean right there. Yeah, we definitely a brother.

(01:36:57):
We got to get together. Um, I know you'll be down there.
You in a valley. Uh,you're gonna be performing all over the place
right now though. Man, I'min Baltimore, I'm in New York,
I'm in South Carolina, I'm gettingwork in Atlanta. I'm all over the
place, so listen, I willbe I've never been to Ohio. I
had to be my honor because letme tell you something, y'all had one
of my one of my favorite coacheshumanitarians, I mean, Marvin Lewis.

(01:37:21):
Come on, wow, come on. Then I followed you from the Ravens
all the way to send That manis got the golden touch. Okay,
no, definitely. When you're readyto coming, you're ready to have an

(01:37:42):
event or something out here, youlet us know when we can get it
set up for Listen, when y'alldo your events, just call me.
Put me on, put me on, put me in, coach, put
me in. So you're gonna,you're gonna, you're gonna come to Columbus,
Ohio. It's nothing, babies,just say. You know. They
might even let me fly the plane. I don't know. Yeah, you

(01:38:08):
know, I might have to getsome bottle water. It's all good.
He's talking about the mother says thenon May eleventh at the north Um Bank
Park Pavilion here coming to oil rightdowntown. You I'm talking about beautiful.

(01:38:29):
Like when I listen, I knowsomebody coming in. My man Joseph Wootton.
You ever heard of Joseph Wooton ofthe Wooden Brothers. Joseph Wooton of
the wood Brothers. He is themusical director for the Steve Miller Band.
I think he's gonna be out yourway through probably I met him on a
talk show when we hit it off. Man, that's one of my dear
friends. Well, if if that'smy email is on the Move show at

(01:38:53):
hot No dot com, I tellyou and mister severn one at gmail dot
com or some scheme or put itup. If are you inviting me into
the Mother's Day to perform? Areyou inviting me? Are you inviting me
to the Mother's Day Show to perform? George Hey, that reminds me.

(01:39:20):
Let me go back. Let mego back to last No, not last
week, but the weekend before.So if you would like to be a
sponsor of this events, please donot hesitate to reach out to me.
We're definitely still looking for of courseeverything is locked down, but you know
you might as well get in whereyou're fitting. So you want to Move

(01:39:41):
show and Hopping dot com can reachout to me. We're trying to get
miss Crystal David from last time.I up stop plans, y'all, don't
please me. So if you wouldlike to um uh, that's getting um
Phil Walter's out here or getting umlady Crystal out here, you know,

(01:40:05):
gett a piano out here. Wecan really turn out Come on now,
you know we're doing this for them. Yeah, deserve it. Mother.
Let me tell you, you know, mother, you know Mother's Day out
there, hold on the Mother's Dayout there, and I go ye back

(01:40:31):
and let you that will go.My lover's mama deserve Mothers deserve it.
Mothers work hard. Mothers are soimportant to the earth, and people don't
even real life when he sacrifice hismother's make you know, not just the

(01:40:55):
nine months of pregnancy and bring itto the world. But we are locked
in a hit with y'all for eighteentwenty one fifty five. I don't know
why they told mother if you onlyseen I'm kidding. Still in the hell
it's still so um. Definitely wouldlove to have you come still, mister

(01:41:17):
Phil Walkers, would love to haveyou. Well, you know, we're
gonna talk off the show. I'mgonna get with y'all and we're gonna see
if we can have this out,you know, because I'm like this,
I'm old school, y'all. Backin the day, people with board right,
you would go city to city andthey go look, um, the
Smith family is hosting the Soul's termstonight. They're gonna stay with them.
So look, I got a daughterthat works for the Marriott, but sometimes

(01:41:38):
she can't get it. Get thatbooking for me right away and eleven if
it's closed. But um hey,help me get there and give me a
place to lay my head. Throwa pillow in the corner with a blanket.
I'm good with that, all right. And we'll get on that stage
and we'll make it a night toremember. I'll do some of my dad's
stuff. I'll do some original stuff. I'll throw some stuff in it for
the mothers and courts. It's gonnabe that time their days, and we

(01:42:00):
will make it happen. We willmake it happen. Yeah, most time
we're waiting y'all come out. Thankyou so much for stopping Bard. We
appreciate you without a doubt. Y'allhappen listening to listen Phil Walters in the

(01:42:23):
building, cook Phil Walter's cook.No, yeah, please here you will
fly high. Oh love my loverGod for me, oh man, Yeah.

(01:42:48):
Yeah, thank you so much servingjoining us. We appreciate it.
Thank you, God, bless y'y'all. Take care now you too.
Oh the movie interview, Oh mygoodness that with the barroom interviews and interviews.
I loved it. I would loveto have him come out here like
that would be awesome and navy.I'm really because I'm really excited, like

(01:43:10):
I was saying through an interview,Mothers, we deserved this, you know,
father do too, y'all made Juno. We are talking about you all
right now. But mothers, mothers, so your bring you know, imagine
how special your mother is going todo. If you're in the Columbus,
Ohio area, or Cincinnati or Cleveland, it's only an hour to our drive,
you know what I'm saying. Ifyou're somewhere insertinity, you know,

(01:43:32):
just like's a special with your mamabring her own to Columbus. You know,
I would love to be able tosing and perform for your MoMA,
make her feel good and give herone and to get sass walking out and
feel her stomach was good food andmake her feel special like she deserved that.
Your mother, your sister, yourwife, you know, you know
the grandma in the neighborhood took careof all the kids. You know what

(01:43:54):
I'm talking about with YEA for thosefools. Yes, yes, yes,
come on out. It's gonna beMay eleventh at the Um at the North
I always gotta member take everything,the North Bank Park, the Petavilion,
North Bank Park Pavilion on three elevenWest Long Street. Very excited. Um,

(01:44:17):
Um, I haven't performed in awhile, so I'm really looking forward
to it. You know, we'regonna have DJ out there. The food's
gonna be out there. It's gonnabe nice. It's gonna be nice.
A nice thing to kick off theMother's Day weekend, right it is.
I think it's like my coming out. You know. It's the the open
up of the spring, you know, into when the summer starts, you

(01:44:40):
know what I mean, because likekids but out of school, right,
you know, the problems coming up. It's just very The areas look so
nice when you come out there.It's gonna be beautiful at the time of
the you know, the weather's wme nice out there. Yeah, because
I have a good time. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, definitely.
You've got a show coming up,um this coming Saturday. Yes,
ah two always gonna be on theair on a Schemies radio review. Um,

(01:45:04):
that's gonna be really dope to onthat Saturday eight o'clock, it's insandy
time. Uh hut me out oncan of stout on Facebook and also a
Schemies radio. You'll see you know, all the pictures of a you know
for that. You know. Yeah, Ato, I did a lot of
bloopers this show. I'm sorry,y'all. This was a big blooper.

(01:45:27):
Unscripted, but y'all't know how wedo it. It's uncut, unsensored,
unfiltered. You know what I'm saying. We give it to you raw if
that's how we like it. Sothat's why it's unscripted. That at one,
I don't know, Ye wasn't ablueper that's really pizza. It's gonna
be a good dog. Yeah,yeah, it's gonna be fun. That's

(01:45:48):
gonna be nice. Yeah. Wealready put the um you know, you're
getting the flyer ready and stuff.Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm excited.
I'm excited. So um yeah,we're gonna get ready. We're rolling
out of here. Gods, it'snot what you be cool. Yeah,

(01:46:15):
I'm down until night time up,peace out, come back. Whatever happened?

(01:46:41):
What happened to me? Somebody callme? Somebody down and whatever happened

(01:47:02):
like Margaret Gane or a little princemust go see whatever happened to a little
man a hard and a little outcast and a little flusy. Whatever happened

(01:47:26):
to the music? Somebody send usand save a music? He must be
reading music, compiance on speaking.We used to sing about love in the

(01:47:47):
struggle, weak face to the cookand we felt down in with the people.
Hope you listen to a songe vievery note, forget the three minutes
because of band me on one youget touch the soul, you can get
it be alone one. That music, it takes you back. Let's do
it, bring that back because weneeded lord. I received its folks from

(01:48:08):
the band, drop from courage toblow. But my ears, you got
a way to go. And Ifear but we never make it until we
form our own and we take itso much telling, but it just get't
wasted because good music. It wasno play, no owner shop, it
was no saying stop killing in themusic. Okay, what happened to the
music? To day? Wherever tomusic? Somebody sing and save you?

(01:48:46):
Whatever happened do you that good?Whatever happen somebody helped somebody send out and

(01:49:13):
save a music, all around world, all aunwe allu wld Ohio, Chicago

(01:49:45):
in Atlanta, the lake, allaround world, all around world, call

(01:50:08):
call word, trying your journey,the call world, color around word colund

(01:50:44):
from our Tina, to make yourwine color lay after Queen and all the

(01:51:13):
way, all around the world,all around the world. Oh, she's

(01:51:40):
the fly, the build thing.She's the queen of switchfol king, be
young, gold in the diamond rings. She got the hart's glow to think
because she's the first huh ah,She's the where to take together becausiness,

(01:52:00):
money market analytics, listen the placesyou might listen. I wonder why she
cannot remember this god damned life todate for dark as the midnight. You
Wanda made us going to hold adamn real tight. We're making plans for
whatever that we'd like. Take anice ride, enjoy the twilight. You've
got that insight and type that Ilike. Rent some bikes to ride to

(01:52:21):
see me, open up for worldsand talk freeley. I'm going through my
thoughts hoping to fill me. Firstthe falls. You're not too short at
tall. What I'm thinking, whosexually get the first fund? The call?
I remember we met the first dateat the mar I remember your face
when we said you want it atall? We've ben get in looking fresh
for the fall, and then theyget that man for sweed gon call imagine

(01:52:43):
and your body. You're in theball our kids. You got a husband
because God damn you down a brank. Oh she got skills, gonna break
that here. Look at those Ishould love. That's stare. Oh yeah,
that girl right there. Damn manabout the having the bad because she's

(01:53:05):
a huh oh body shore business don'tmatter girls too little kid, the kind
of what you lay him boots noabout to win that look they call her

(01:53:25):
she for baby. She's a sextylady. She actually do you want to
write a bottle of sad? Theboy, no doubt what you will enjoy.
But she too fly to be activecore shockingness and the now enjoy her
beautiful lingness coming from Saint Coy.She got a kind heart that you cannot
talkin if you buy a game onher, too quick to get her annoying
you too. Sexty, like shewrites said Fred women purple and pink,

(01:53:47):
she pinky red, carry that lad, don't end up dead. And she's
looking super good. But she feltthat bread. She's an educated woman.
Better use your head whin that youain't about to present ability credit too,
go on the world like now Madridpost that mure than million dollars to count.
She do that, kid, Iknow that for the girl. No
listeners thunderstood bess. She got abody or the pus. She talks so

(01:54:08):
sweet, she had no piano brightin music on she's you speak Splanish in
that tig and make you speak speakingin the astronomy out of body analogies of
doors, travels to spacetime and yalagy. Do you know a lot about the
world a former policies about the chickenand them pup in the trick, she's
a Oh, she's a flies thebeautiful things. She's the queen and search

(01:54:35):
for kid yon gold in them diamondrings. She put the hard But your
girl sitting she's a brush, abrush. Oh, she's the way for
take together for business, money marketanalytic, listen complaces you might visit.

(01:54:58):
I wonder why she could not havecommitment, because god damn sexy mama named
Bassandra and she looks for good infront of the camera. Sexyes left.
She choose me too, for bringingthe drowns. You're gonna be hubble top
model when you walk up booty wobbleand when up with us, she made
me feel like HiT's a lotto coolskinning kim me like a lotto. I
let her want to set the stayingout kabbles the world off recognize it as

(01:55:20):
a female too. Pot I donnalove what the empathy hid hot. Look
at the way she walked. I'mgonna's so hot. She do the thing,
but the bars got in dead blockthe first time you see ain't gonna
make it to your drop. Hegets the bar for sure to make your
body block. I'm what was gonnabe your fan and one day go to
be your man if you can't becauseGod, damn so oh she got kills.

(01:55:49):
Anna bring that hair. Look atthe side she gonna let that there.
Oh yeah, that's good right there. Damn ning about to having the
bag huh oh bid the super businesssuit. But don't matter, gust the

(01:56:12):
look the matter what you wearding?Boots, No tell you about the wind
that look thet M I say,I know I know you got sometimes like

(01:57:01):
by damn, what got him?God he's gonna go intil them say my
heart and broken. I'm just tryingto fit, trying to gotta so you
used to hit him liking now mylife and difference. I need to man

(01:57:24):
when they talking now my love ofPery loga once who we're gonna twin the
water? Did they take? Ikeep my dad, My dad, Mama
toll me gotta have rige. Gottahave always felt like I was on a
man and then I'm trying to makeit. I gotta be Dad brand Jim
Gotta for so far, I thinkyou meet far. I gotta learner,
can't go away and no, yougot no time away. Donna think a
nothing hard. I always keep witha honey than you're gonna live. I'm

(01:57:46):
just trying to do better and seemy mom. I don't remember long night
always outside, I all the thinking. You ain't got nobody you get callo
so little white RD towlet Scot callcusehe gonna hate you every time they go
now, so I ain't really tryingto make no winning. Had to cut
a couple of people off because theya My mom asked me, you what
they're going ready for the I don'twant to smoke with it, but seq

(01:58:10):
we don't understand something we can't understand. You've been down there. You need
you a hand, you gotta so, I've been to I've been told what
Really I know, I know yougot to some kind of like you down
what you try them to keep going? Tell them mom got yeah, yeah,

(01:58:33):
yeah, I say I know whatyou know. I know you've got
the pint, been looking that likeyou're always doing something like this is for
the ones? Why they sell mysquare not they not mess up being so.
I don't like y'all can never getalong of trying to stack it up
and leave the haters where they y'allalone and y'all shoulders, man, And

(01:58:55):
maybe you just want somebody to Butif they don't, shouldn't kill you.
As you know you've been a wellthey've never really ned. Be clear,
you can't let them get in yo. Well if you got a funny feeling
about them, you should never trustany times I knew was like you killed
that pain like a touch. Youjust need to know that everybody did that
song because I remember days I reallythought that I was nothing, but I
know I wanted. I hope thatyou wanted. I ain't no reason for

(01:59:20):
people can't really explain that's what they'vedone, Ain't It's crazy? An my,
yeah, you do really ready,but I don't know. You got
the hard I'm like a town,but you got and you got to keep
going too, to them

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