Musician Norman V. Whiteside Stopped By To Speak With Patricia M. Goins and Mr. Stout

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Love, So lady let the rainfall say there you already lock yourself in

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through double You've been so consumed laughing. It's time for you to father and
put your work resol No, noyour loving him and nine with from souping
called in your name like this thena kind of time cry. I'm know
that this is what you cry.Your finger tips are running through sunhair.

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Your voice was leading this pishair yourdata for me, but I do not
care my well where you touch yourpoison. I can't focus. And baby
king mynd open this your potion andno want it comero the spending posts to
your body, these emotion one moresecond, Ma can moted, just some

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one ride out for you to nightchamp back, hold the frame wine who
many you can know my mind?So I cannot deno this might not be
right. You cannot let your fireever side when you're a baby. I
know when my fams can't go freehand you with my lord, you can't

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hand your bodies are fire. Dowe take a cham no man saying are
we fathers the find? Is thiswhat we want and see? And is
this just fun? With for intention? He teaching them my thing. I

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know that we're crossing like do themargin troum man ha? Do we you
spo can read myself damn but yourselfand spoke good and my sky you want
see this pression is unting. Iwant you, but this could be bad
nude, so see things. Thisis a westing, but I will be

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lying and bad. I'm not lyingto touch you. The fingers are reaching
my phone. Blood is so confusedthe side I feel the tensing girls.
Yeah, I know I want you. I want you, I want you?
So do we take the jam tothe man's friends? Are we fathers

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the frinchance? Is this what wewant and see? And is this just
fun with no intentions? So dowe take a red the brain miss gang
where we might never come back frommiss time? Same? Is it we
won? And is this just fun? With contention? I know what you

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want? Baby? You are alone, baby Emma, what you want?
Your joining Natkiking Danny open Bogan inthe One Last Man? Is it just

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fun for contention? You're listening liveto On the Move Unscripted with your host
Patricia am Going and mister Scout onwww dot blog Talk Radio dot com Bard

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Slash Patricia Going call in Now We'relive at five, one, six,
three eight seven one two four seven. This is your boy, bath boy
Billy flat. If I'm just chillingin the studio or chising the lead and
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no matter how you played, I'mdown with Patricia and mister Stout on

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On the Move Unscripted. BA,what's going on? You have tuned in
to another episode of On the MoveUnscripted with Patricia am going what's going on

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right now? Okay, So we'rea summer break, slash, come on
sometimes slash. You understand, we'regonna get better. We're gonna get back
into the groove. We ain't joyingour summer. Oh my gosh, we've
just been doing all kind of stuff. Just passed. On Saturday, the
Columbus, Ohio had their annual ribthere and um, your girls Stephenie Nils

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poured down in the ring. Babygot me. This is the all enjoys
that work, took it back thenjoined it was in bell bottoms. Mom,
Wait minute, her son, allof her all of her background figures
in the bed with the bomb.But her son, did you say you
have been works like nineteen or somethinglike that, ye heard songs out there

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and I'm like, really defy forreal on that well, we don't know
who. I don't even kept hisname, but I like my lips,
I'm gonna ground. It was.It was packed that it was very crowded,
and it was it was nice andwe thought it was gonna rain,
but it ain't went by it andit was just a really nice night.

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Y'all was playing. I'm seeing thatblack. I'm like, more, please,
I've been standing this one to getthese dack on a rig and I'm
risks for a long police lord,don't let it rain on my head.
I was in that line for whatyou said, an hour and a half.
It was bad, yeah, butan hour and a half. I
was just like, oh my gosh, and I really wanted to slush you

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so bad, but I just didn'tknow. I did not have another hour
and a half in there, likelike you at Disney and saw this on
the EA, I you know what. I was so excited and happy because
I was like, oh my goodness, we had this whole because then in
the heat with everybody's drinking a littlestuff whenever, and nobody acted up.

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But I guess they they the kidsare outside the gate accident. Yeah,
a little little issue or something brottime fro. They were starting to leave,
You're like, look before you startedto sing the last like they getting
and they knew what was gonna bewith the topic and Grandma aunt gonna play
around where he's going, right,But it was it was also amazing coming

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up, Yeah, that's coming up? Is it? This weekend? Oh
man, I'm gonna have to havewe got we gotta get there. And
then we had some different events thatwe went to this weekend. Um,
we actually went to a I guessit wasn't really a barbecue because when nobody
grew in, but I just calledit a back in New York barbecue because

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it was like an ev right,right, um at an attorney's house,
right. And so we went andoh m Jim, yeah the band and
I found himself the name I couldn'tit was it's the William Brady bandy.
So the William Brady Band performed rightat this private event. And when I

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say, they acted a freaking foollike it was the bomber. I was
up there like, hey they payall the gym, yes, yes,
and they and their singer they hada background singer. I think her name
is Many or Mighty d I Idon't know, but our neg yes,
because when they finished doing all that, I had to get up and find

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somebody to interview and really, youknow, introduce them to our listeners and
the people who follow us, especiallythose in Columbus. So high, like
if y'all got in the bed,coming up right, y'all need to give
it. So we have mister Normanthe white side on the line. So
hold on one right, y'all.We got white side, the William Brady.

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All right, We're gonna but aright side, the white side right
now. We got a little rightyeah, can you can you? I
hear you? Well, how areyou doing? I'm doing better than good

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and better than moves. I'm stillblessed by the best to spout on the
nest, even when they're heeded bythe rest. Come on, come on
recorded there, so I'm so excitedto have you on um on the move
on scripted with me and mister Stout. Like when I saw your band,

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you know, I'm the William Bradyband. When I saw y'all perform,
and then y'all had the young lady, how do you pronounced her name.
What's her name and pronounced mindy.Uh first name is Knician. I have
still have a problem pronouncing her name, but uh minny just like um the
MIDI port and a keyboard, thetrends the keyboard. Yeah. When she

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she told me that, it waslike y'all was trying to see her.
She was gonna be a good fit. And when she fears, I said,
oh, yeah, she's a goodfit. Good great, great,
you know so she so okay,yeah, she's she's she's very very very

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good, very good. But youknow, even the um O our primary
vocalists, uh, miss Priscilla Woodsonshe you know, I wish you had
would have had an opportunity to listento her as well, because um,
she brings she brings another type ofenergy. Uh it's almost like uh it

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would say equal in force, butopposite in direction. Oh wow. Well,
and then the guitarist and what thewhat was the guitarist name with all
the lights of stuff on the electricguitar? What was his name? Now?
That was the bass guitarist. Thatwas mister true Williams. Yes,

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yes, he's he was the personfriend of the of the host of that
backyard party. And also he's uhI forget the name of the church,
but he's a regular church member uhat at a church on the east side.
And so um, he comes fromVirginia and he's been here probably about

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a year, and so he's quitethe quite the basis. Yes, now
that is often amazing. So Isee the lights lighting up. If you
got a couple of call we runninghere, Um, you know what if

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are we get well, I don'tknow if you want just might be somebody
that has seen his performance or amazingly, someone who actually knows um, mister
Norman personally because or has followed him. Because you have a very interesting story
and your story really grabbed me,like you're like how you even got into
music and all the kind of stuff. So I wanted to get into that.

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So, but we have a caller, So I got questioned for you,
do you want to give give usa quick yellow brick roll type quick
quick synopsis of who you are?Or he wants to bring on the caller
and then go into it. It'sall on you what you want to do.
You can bring in the color andwe'll go from there. All right,
we're gonna bring We're gonna bring onthe move, unscripted, we go.

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I'm your songs a promise. We'regetting all of that, all right,

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he said. She was talking.She was roncorn about the way.
She didn't even know. But youknow what, that's what makes our show
fun because we're completely raw, unscripted, uncut since the well here, right,
So just relax yourself and just tellus who is Norman the White Side?

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Please take us down a yellow brickroad like Dorothy Oh Jay, if
I can do a yellow brick road. Um. I was born to the
fifth daughter of a prominent Baptist ministeruh back in March of nineteen fifty three.

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Moved around in Columbus for quite awhile. When I got the first
my first transistor radio, heard asong, a country song called Hang Down
Your Head Tom Dooley, and wasfascinated by the sound coming out of this
radio, and I knew then thatI wanted to do something like that.

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Fast forward to I was beating onsome boxes and some pie pans because the
family obviously couldn't afford any drums.But I thought I was going to end
up being a drummer, and mymom saw that I was not going to
depart from playing on her pots andpans and old Scott tissue boxes, whatever

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I could beat on, and shebought me a little red norma uh and
that was the name of the drumset. It was a normal drum set
and uh it had one one timeuh one bass drum, a snare,
a high hat uh one symbol.And I can recall like going back and

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forth just putting records on the mon the stereo. They called it the
high fight in UH putting a recordsended just beating the drums to um to
the stereo and then um. Atsome point the I had a cousin who

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played the piano or organ and anothercousin who played the guitar, so we
decided to form a little combo.Didn't didn't have a name. So UM
one day, UH we were playinga song, or trying to play a

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song. Uh by ODIs ready,and I heard what appeared to be the
wrong chord plan. So I toldmy cousin that isn't what he's playing.
And my cousin told me, hesays, you're the drummer. You're the
dummy of the group. So youjust hold the bachelet and let us worry

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about the if it's if it's onthe right key or not. So I'm
saying, well, it's still onthe right you know, it's still in
the wrong key, and you're stillplaying, you know. And so I
said, okay, the dummy huh. So I sought out to uh to
play the piano, and so,um what I had to do. My

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aunt was the only one in thefamily who had a piano, Um that
I had a shot of even messingwith. So her husband owned a landscaping
company cut grass and everything for severalrealtors in the area. So I agreed

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to work with his company in thesummertime from seven in the morning to fortnight
so that I could have access totheir piano from five until nine. And
that was let me just say this, I mean, Jay, see that
generationaurant that they worked for what theywanted. They put out a plan.

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He's like, I'm gonna learn howto and if I gotta work to do
what I'm gonna do it, understandthat, y'all generation that's right, that's
right. And you know, uh, back then, when you were able

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to afford a piano and a recordplayer and to play on the record player,
you're you know, you were uhyou were said to be living large,
you know. So uh, mymy aunt had the record player,
They had the records and the piano, so um true to form. From

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from five to nine, I wouldsit down and the first song that I
tried to uh mess with was theother side of my Cheria Moore, which
was I don't know why I loveyou, but Steve you wonder um and

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so yeah, so so I don'tknow what it was about this particular song,
I don't know why I love you, but it told me something about
who I was, what my futurewas going to be, especially being a
at that time even steel now avery very shy person, and I don't

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see myself. How old were Howold at that time? I was fifteen?
Okay, so you suck So youself taught yourself how to play the
piano at fifteen, yes, yes, uh you know. Obviously I couldn't

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we couldn't afford for me to takelessons and so um, you know,
I had to listen to the recordsand try to feel a figure it out.
I developed a particular style of playingthat causes my my pinky finger in
my right just stick up in theair because it was always in the way

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so I tied a string around myneck and then tied it around the finger
so it wouldn't get in the way. So when people see me uh playing,
you'll see that finger up in theair and says like, what what's
up with that? You know,because it very seldom hits the hits the
keyboard. Uh. Because how longdid you and the band play together?

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Your first band? How long didyou play together? You know, we
got together on the week weekend andyou know, we just you know,
Hake. Then you did the familybarbecues, all the family got to do
every all the doors was always openand somebody in the family was cooking or
doing something. And this was sothis was uh so uh my mom that

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they've dragged the drums over to uhwhoever's house. Uh. The organ that
that Andrew was using was a littlem and ese so it could just be
carried with a minimal difficulty. Theguitar that um Jimmy had was a kit
guitar, so in other words,you could just take all the equipment and

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and move it in one set.The drums were the hardest things to take
or or uh just set up.But we were together, um for for
a few months. And then beforeI lost interest and just took all spend
all my time at the piano workinguh cutting lawns, treming hedges, cleaning

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out houses during the day and thenum uh at night. Uh there from
five to nine with with that pianofor uh for almost a straight year.
Um. In the in the uhwintertime, it was about shoveling snow.
But but I could not have thisuh piano taken away from me. Uh,

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so uh there was it was goahead. So I'm just curious.
So when did you start playing forother people yourself? By yourself? Oh?
Well, one day, uh,one day, my mom came over
to visit her sister, my auntand um, and she heard somebody playing

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the piano. She says, well, who's that playing the piano that U
They said, Well, Andrew's gottena lot better. He says, well,
that's not Andrew, that's your son, right, and so um she
was so she was so happy thatshe had me uh come to the church

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and play the song that I wasplaying at the house. It was called
Exodus UM, and I played itfor the first time in the church,
and that's when everybody realized outside ofmy aunt UM, that I could play
the piano and UM. When Igot that church standard ovation, I turned

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around and looked at Andrews and now, now who's the dubby? I can
play the drums and the keyboard,right, But you know, I think
if he happened, go ahead,I'm circle ahead. Look if he if
he hadn't made it, come andI'd probably be a drummer to the day.

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All right, Why what he did? Because you can play yeah that
piana. So let's slide one downa little bit further down the yellow brick
row and tell us what brought youto UM April third, nineteen eighty five,
Like what happened? Or how oldwere you? Like, what was
your what led you to happen todo thirty one years in prison? UM?

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At that at that time, Ihad just turned uh thirty two years
old three days before that. UM. And then you have to go back
a little bit. And because it'smusically related to UM, I had uh
we got a band called we H. It was already established as we and

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I took the some of the membersand started, you know, I wanted
somebody to me. It seemed likeall of the Columbus musicians they wanted to
do everybody else's material and I,you know, I wanted to write my
own mature. I wanted to writeand produce my own mature. I didn't
want to be like everybody else.And so, UM, when I did

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all types of things, uh,to get into studio, to learn what
the studio is about. I couldeven remember calling myself buying a cassette recorder
or real or real dress, justtrying to make some things happen musically.
And what happened is that I gotto a point where I thought, well,

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hey, uh, we're about tobe able to do something. I
got some people to start listening towhat we were doing and um, and
so I put the band's money inthe City National Bank, UM, and

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we were about uh. We hadnegotiated uh something to do a tour with
the group Wild Cherry. And ifyou know anything about promotional tours, when
you do a promotional tour, UM, a lot of people think, well,
if you're opening it up for WildCherry, that you're getting a lot
of money. You don't know alot of times that a band will pay

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for a promotional tour so that theycould get exposure by working with another band,
and even that you having to payfor that hua even back then they
were they were doing that even backthen. They still do that now Like
a lot of artists and musicians andstuff when they're unknown, they pay for

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their slots the slot. So theywere even doing that, and so this
would have been in the AGEMA rightright. This was yes, ma'am.
This was now we're talking about theseventies. This senties. Yeah, it's
this in the seventies, okay.And so at that time, uh,

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when that was going on, andwe, uh, we were trying to
get this tour. The uh thecomputers were still young and the bank lost
the band's money through a computer eraand misplaced or whatever. So when we
got ready to do the tour,there was no money to finance the tour.

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And uh so they didn't uh theBreezy Brothers who were out of Lorraine,
Ohio, that's who Wild Cherry was, Uh, they didn't. Uh
we we couldn't make the cut withthem. And so I was so upset.
I went to see a lawyer aboutsuing the bank, and the lawyer

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told me you can't sue the king. I says, well, I'm not
trying to sue the king. I'mtrying to sue the bank. And he
explained to me that that meant youcan't throw anybody with that kind of money
and expect to win. And I'msaying, well, what to do because
at that time, even some ofthe band members start, oh, Norman

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stole the money. He ain't thebank, he lost no money deeds and
stole the money. And so Iwas so so upsetting, so hot headed.
I decided, well, I'm goingto pay the bank back. And
that's when I started U sitting,started studying banking and studying the process,

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and I started and taught myself howto uh commit bank fraud on a big
scale. And it was about beingvindictive. And in the uh in the
first year, uh, everybody wastrying. All the police. Uh they

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had profiled me as being a fortyeight year old white guy because they said
that, uh, black young blackpeople don't think like whoever is behind this,
you know, like this degree ofbank fraud. And they they were
saying, we're like here in ain a time when there were no computers

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here, it was as here asyoung like uh barely twenty one year old
guy who's got a crew that's knockingdown you know, like a couple hundred
thousand dollars a year. A coupleof thousand dollars a year at that time
was a whole lot of money.And um, it became it became an

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obsession to just you know, stickit to the persons to me and uh
and so that's that was the preludeto uh the criminal life. Um I
got um I was. I mean, these people in my estimission, they

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took they stole my dream, theystole my opportunities, and and and everybody
was telling me, well, youknow, you just gotta, uh let
God deal with him a whole holdof He's taken too long. And I'm
and he's not making me angry.So so they gave you thirty one years
from bank. No no, no, no, no, no, no

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no no. Now I went toprison a time prior to April the third.
I spent eleven months in prison,and then I got out of prison
and cranked up the operation again.Okay, so uh so I mean I'm

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I'm still upset. I mean,this is how I was about music.
I just you know, I wasjust so upset about the thing. Uh
up into the April third thing,Um, I was, I was doing
a whole lot. I was.I was being extra as they say.
And then like around that time,I was dealing with some people just um

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and one of the persons UH wellthey were they were in just selling drugs
and everything. And a lot oftimes the money that I got from UH
bank fraud, I financed drug dealers. I didn't and I didn't deal with
drugs, but I findance them rightthey needed some some money, UM I

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would, I would front of moneyand one of these I was, Yeah,
I was. I was the hoodthink. Also I was the one
that like uh uh when I wasthe face changer, um that is when

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it when people when people wanted touh leave the country and they were on
parole or probation or something. Umuh, I was the one that was
supplied him would take id uh.I was, Oh wow, what it

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was that kind of life it was, I mean it was it was uh
and and it hit and had gottenin the way of even with the uh
even with the music, because peoplewere wondering like like what's going on with
him? You know, I wasbecause you meet just as many glamorous people

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in the in the underworld, andum you you uh all of the people
and UH that you that you readabout, like the pips, to players,
the hustlers, to prostitutes, thethe gangsters. I mean, you
know, it was like they wouldcome from across country, uh to to

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to get your face change. Hey, I need some ID or or I
mean sometimes to leave the country sometimesto uh to go in banks sometimes I
mean just to all kinds of Uscams and everything. So I'm caring still,
was this the eighty stiller the seventies? H this is this is this

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is this is uh this this oneon from uh seventy nine to to eighty
five today to you know, itwas uh we I had what you call
a really really good run. Ireally did run. I had a I

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had my own airlines. Uh uhwhat I would do? I would I
had people Like if if, forinstance, somebody want to go to Porter
Prince Haiti at that time, aticket to Porter Prince Haity would cost nine
hundred, well I would sell itto him for two fifty guarantee um around

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trip without the police arrested him atthe airport. So best life. So
I imagined that in the kind ofa world and in that kind of environment,

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things probably got dangerous at times,right, It got dangerous. But
even then, just like now,everything operates on respect and loyalty. Everything
operated like that. Typically, peoplewho looked at a certain kind of danger,

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they created that danger. They askedthat dangerous. Another thing that I
didn't do. I did not fluntif I had, if I had a
lot of money in my pocket,that you would never know it. I
didn't. I didn't dress like Ididn't uh put on bright orange uh suits

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the fishing and right right, buthe like, I'm gonna get you stuck
or right, I h No.I I was. I was very I
was very modest because the one thingthat I learned even about like criminal behavior,

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is that like when it came downto breaking and entering and burglering all
that stuff, people only went inplaces that they already knew what was in
there. That you know, ifthey broke in your house, you let
them in there. You are theone that let them in there to see
what you had. And I realizedthat too many people were too busy trying

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to show everybody else what they had. Even today, when I look at
some of the stories about the rapperswho they go into the bling and once
they get out of the neighborhood.They go back to that neighborhood where you've
created all this jealousy and think thatyou're gonna leave there with your goal.
No, it's uh. And andI believe that that's what happens a lot

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of times that like uh that whenpeople they get something and they just got
their short they can't just keep theirmouths shut or they gotta shows. They
gotta go make somebody jealous, andjealousy that thing wants, that thing sets
in, It sets in something inmotion, you know. And I always

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was I was. I tried tobe humble no matter what if if somebody
thought that they were going to youknow, you didn't have to rob me,
because if I had it, I'lldo it to you, you know.
And people knew I had that kindof reputation. You don't, you
don't, you don't have to doanything him. If he got whatever it

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is you need, he will giveit to you. And that was my
reputation. And then I had thatall loyalton in respect go ahead. So
I was when I was reading yourbio, if you said that the police
trying to convict you attempted murder,but you but but it was false like

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they tried to eat right right.Well exactly, that's what and that's what
happened because when this uh there wasa couple of the UH, the gay
and the drug factions that were arguingover to some drug turf one or from
Cleveland one or from Columbus, andso there was a shootout on the quarter

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of Broad Winter. Well I wasn'tthere. I didn't you know, I
wasn't there when when when all ofthis kind of stuff happened. But then
like, um, I knew thatone of the uh uh, one of
the guns UH was was probably involvedbecause like one of my partners gave uh

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gave the person who did the accidentalshooting the gun. I um, I
had a problem being being uh compassionateand so I was looking at the news
and uh I saw where this manhad lost his daughter, and me having

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daughters myself, I mean I wasI felt for the guy, and uh
I was asking the folks in thecrew, says like, uh, who
was responsible for killing that little girl? You know, uh, you you
need to straighten your hand. Andso um when it was determined who it

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was it was involved, they thecops wanted me to um just point him
out and say you know, hey, this this was him. I refused
to do it, even though theyknew that I knew. So what they
did is they indicted for I'm gladeverything. They only for a little stuff.

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So they wanted you to snitch.Because you didn't snitch, they try
to stick on you. And andso I mean no, no, they
didn't try to do they did andthey did they yeah, they knew they
and and so they had uh fabricatedthe story about me masterminding the purchase of

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the murder weapon and h then thejudge. Then the judge said that like
uh um, even if uh Normanwasn't there, Uh, you know,
he unlike ninety nine percent of thecriminals out here, he has imagination.
And that's the scary thing about him. Um, he said. So like

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um he told him in one interview, he says, I was the I
was the uh. The only personworse than me that he has met in
his career was Charles Manson. Uh. This was even stated in a in
a magazine article. Um. Andso the parole board, you know,

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these people, they gonna believe whatjudges and prosecutors say. And so for
the so for the longest from uhuh I stayed in prison and uh,
then who's what I've never done?Huh told? And I told who I

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know. And even even when theybrought me to court to you know,
and they had the guy there whohad poured the trigger. Um, they
were trying to uh go through thestory. They brought me in front of
the jury and change I was changedup, like from you know and so

(41:05):
uh they they told me. Thenhe says like, uh, if you
just point him out, you cango home right now. If you just
say that's him, you can gohome right now. And I told him
in that court room as I asI looked at the guy in the chair,
that the funny part is is thetrigger man was the only one who

(41:25):
didn't get convicted. Wow, somethingthat loyalty of being in the streets and
being told they needed they needed mytestimony to put him in prison, I
says. And I told him,I says, all that means is that

(41:49):
you're going to uh after I dowhat it is you want me to do,
You're just going to add another oneto the butt. You know.
That isn't that you know? Um? I said, if if they said,
well, you will never leave prisonalive. So you know, to
make yourself comfortable, you know.Um, you know that that that sense

(42:10):
of loyalty. I mean it's it'sit's not here uh now, but always
competing about it, you know.Uh See, And I tell people all
the time, there's a difference betweena black watching a snitch. See.

(42:35):
See here's here's the difference. Asnitch is somebody who was involved with you
in the crime, and then whensomebody gets caught, he or she tries
to tell so that they can getout of it themselves. Right now,
A black watch somebody they've seen youkill somebody's baby, and they went to

(43:01):
the prosecutor and they said he didit. I saw him to that man
or that woman did not snitche Theysit up there and tried to bring closure
to some grieving mother or grandmother,father something. Uh. And it was
not something for something else. Itwas because their hearts said I want to

(43:23):
help. There is a difference.See that's that's that's the thing, and
and uh that's how that's how itgoes. Uh. So everybody who goes
to to the cops about something asa matter of trying to protect your neighborhood,
your family. No, you you'rea snitching if you involved in that

(43:45):
stuff and you get caught, andthen you want to tell that snitching.
So so you're you're in prison atthis point and you've already been doing time,
So you were still in prison inApril two thousand and eight, and
right, yes, I was right, So tell us and how did your

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music get to the ears like KanyeWest and Frank Ocean and Rick Ross,
and how did the Numero what doyou call it? Namro group even find
you? Like and you were inprison, like, how did that come
about? Well, first of all, everybody you know, when they when
they rob Severe and folks were lookingfor me, everybody said, well he

(44:30):
did, and so so the search. But there was this wonderful guy named
Thomas Murphy. He lives out inCalifornia. Now he was the one the
person who owned our recording studio andbrought me in his studio and where the
fee was twenty five dollars an hour. After I paid the first seventy five,

(44:52):
he said, you don't have topay anything from now on, you
just coming here and record as oftenas you want to. So for uh,
for a long period, for abouttwo or three years, he just
allowed me to come in our recordingyour studios and record stuff. Well,
for the thirty years he carried themaster tapes around with him in in his

(45:15):
briefcase and was trying to pitch itto anybody who would listen. Um.
And so no matter what, youknow, every time he would he would,
uh do recording for uh Sister Sledge, Uh, uh, the the
barge, who whoever they looks.Can I introduce you to this to this

(45:38):
guy that you know, he gotthis one album and you know, and
I think you know that his musicwas ahead of his time? Would you
listen to it? Well, RobSevere of the Numeral group, uh said,
he let me see what you got. And so they listened to it
and contacted me while I was inprison of April and said, uh,

(46:01):
look if we uh, would youallow us to reissue your record, we
can get it, uh get youa whole new audience. And the wonderful
thing about that. And people areflabbergaster when I tell them this. We
did that without a contract. Itwas not a contract on that. We

(46:23):
We had a a gentleman's agreement thatultimately got my music nominated for three Grammy
Awards. Why did you get past? So did they put money books or
put money aside or have I beenwaiting on you when you got outlet something

(46:44):
got well, Mama didn't raise nofood. No I didn't. I didn't.
You have a whole pointed to notknow what to do. I got
you. But watch this here.It turned out that the black publisher that
I will working with UH, hedied and UH and so a lot of

(47:07):
stuff was caught up in UH inhis estate and his sister had been collecting
my royalties UH from almost forty years. And and so, when we believe

(47:27):
it or not, we just randown all the particulars in February of this
year to get the record straight sothat like by the first of next year,
UH I should be receiving my justdoing royalties. So yeah, it's

(47:51):
just like with everything else with withpatients. But I also got to say
while we're talking about this, youknow, because I want to say this
even before too much time goes up. UM. When I came home in
in UH September of twenty sixteen,UM I had a coming home counselor concert

(48:15):
on November the nineteenth of that yearthat was my UH deceased son's birthday.
And then UH Karen Carlisle, PastorKaren Carlisle came to that concert and and
and she brought will Brady with him, says, maybe we can get this
guy to join us so that wecan help in our fight against mental health,

(48:40):
homelessnesss and mental health. So uh, they came to the concert,
UH gave me their pitch. Iwas supposed to call her, but I
lost her cards, so uh itwasn't until the next uh concert in May
of two thousand and seventeen that shecame to that and says, look,

(49:05):
we would like for you to playwith our group. We're a little small
group and we're not what you're usedto, but we would like for you
to work with us because we're tryingto promote mental health wellness and we've got
we've got eleven houses in the citywhere where we've got people housed with mental

(49:28):
health issues and U and they wouldotherwise be homeless. Well, from that
time, that's how I ended upjoining the William Brady Band. And since
two thousand seventeen, Uh, weuh the music we've been playing primarily has
benefited people who have mental health issuesin our homeless And again, my sister

(49:54):
pastor chaired Carlisle. She makes that'sher passion to make sure that those people
have a roof over their head.So when you heard us planning that at
that party, everybody there, thehost was making a contribution toward the battle

(50:15):
for homelessness with mental health. SoI had to slide that in there.
And I actually became the spokesperson forthe William Brady bad and so it wasn't
about me anymore. It was aboutyou know, that particular purpose. And

(50:37):
that's why even the most high Godallowed you to hear what we were doing,
so that we could have a momentlike this, or I could be
able to tell you that part becauseit was the band that you were looking
at anyway, And you know Iwasn't. I just happened to be the

(50:57):
instrument that was connected to the purpose, to another purpose because you were looking
at the William Brady band. Youwere looking at how many was out there
uh singing on that after damon?Yeah? You know, Uh, you
were looking at the lights on Drew'sguitar. You know that. I mean,
So that's what and and and thatbeyond everything else, is uh take

(51:24):
home out of this moment, outof everything else, is that even with
what's happened with me, I'm nottupocket. It's not about all eyes on
me this time around. Even thoughthe interviews with me, uh, it
was about the William Brady band thatgot your attention, and so I am

(51:44):
not going to uh steal their thunderso to speak, right, No,
no, no, but I wasgoing to give them they're gonna get each
My hope you to be able toget each one, uh your bandman um
in for an interview. So Isold the audience so the listeners can know

(52:05):
who they are and we actually hadand so when we interview each one,
they'll be able to tell their backgroundstory or what brought them to the William
Brady band. But so, butI wanted to shit me a tone jays
that Jay? Is that J PNick what is it? Or j L
Jip? But Jehovah is on pointright? Is that bright the William Brady

(52:30):
band? Or is that with youwith a different band? And that that
that that's me, that's me,that's I have a I have an entire
album on the way out. Uhit's it's been sitting for a while waiting
for everything, uh for uh Numeroto do the pressing uh for me to

(52:52):
get all of the credits and everythingin line. But it's um, it's
a fourteen song album and uh Gapis the only song on the album that
use more than me as a musician. On the entire album. I'm playing
all the instruments, the drums,debates to everybody, and I'm doing all

(53:14):
the background vocals. And you youhaven't heard it yet. I'll send some
of that to you. But like, uh, but you did you see
the video called wish Actually, sofor those of you who are listening,
because we have listeners that are allover the United States and the world actually,

(53:37):
and so I put the link inwith the podcast. So once we
upload it to iHeart Radio, Spotify, all the different places that it goes,
once it's interview is over, they'llbe able to click on the link
and see some of those videos.So I got a chance to kind of
glance that a little bit. Butonce the interview is over, I'll be

(53:58):
able to go back and really,you know, hone in on all of
it. But all the listeners cametoo. So for those of you who
are at the sound of our voice, UM, if you go to the
bio area, you'll be able toclick on those links, and those links
will lead you to the YouTube videosthat um mister Wislide provides. So let's
take a quick break and let's playthat UM mix that you sent and then

(54:22):
I kind of want to jump backand understand about the universal support network that
you created into domind thirteen. Butlet's go ahead and play. So we're
gonna take a quick Want to MoveUnscripted a little I ant I, I

(55:57):
let and let it do. Letit lead to lindenle all right, all

(01:02:16):
right, all right, that wasvery soothing, very relaxing, like I
could listen to that, like youknow what I'm saying, like on a
day when I just don't want tohear nobody saying that that, I just
want some smooth roller coaster type music. Yeah. So you have tuned into

(01:02:36):
another episode of Want to Move Unscriptedand we are interviewing one of the members
of the William Brady band, misterNorman the Whiteside, And that was a
mix that he that that was hismix. So let's just let you know
how is. But let's bring himback here. Yeah, so we gotta
often come an album that's coming outright there as well, So you guys

(01:02:58):
look out for that. So yes, Norman, how if somebody wanted to
hire your band, the William BradyBand, to actually come out and do
an event or do a performance orprivate party? Is the way they you
know you did when I s areyou? How are they get in touch
with there? Like? Is therea website or a phone number? Right

(01:03:20):
now? All you have to dois call six one four four or five
six seven six nine seven. Thereis a line where respond consolidated businesses.
You just let somebody know, um, this is uh the band. It
um on that you let them knowthe leave your name, your number,

(01:03:44):
and the location of dating, thetime of your event, and uh you'll
be contract excuse me contacted promptly aboutthe band's availability and um. As you
may know, the band plays wherechurch's birthday parties, private parties, art
shows and many other events. Okay, so um. Sometimes because it's a

(01:04:05):
multifaceted it has many members, uh, mister mister Brady and and I uh
with pastor Karen Carlile or probably thecore. In other words, if you
don't see anybody else, you'll seeus two. We might have uh Rufus

(01:04:26):
Wilson on the guitar might have uhEddie uh oh forget his name right off.
Um, but there's he uses aboutuh fifty musicians all over the uh
all over the state. Uh theycome from, you know, like uh
he even used people like UM CraigRobinson, who is you know, uh

(01:04:51):
plays for the uh plays for theLakeside Uh sometimes uh Ron Henderson who also
plays uh for lake Side, anduh Mike snake Bite Roberts, who was
who was with Rick James. Sohe uses a lot of different people.

(01:05:12):
So you might say, you say, well, my event only calls for
some light jazz, and we onlyneed three people. It will probably be
uh Will myself and uh Priscilla Woodson. Um. If they said, well,
we want something like a romantic evening, uh, they'll bring in U

(01:05:33):
Louis Lamont Booker, who everybody callsColumbus Ohio's Luther van Dross because he he
has all the little Luther tricks.Uh. Then if we want some rapping,
and we'll bring in dnk uh DemetriusCantrell who who also plays in and
like Steve Pollard with these uh theColumbus Hot Boys. So whatever you need

(01:06:00):
for the occasion, you're going tohave William Brady on drums. I'm typically
going to be on keys and covocals, but I get out of the
way for people like Mitty, uh, Priscilla and Lewis, and then that's
that's generally how you do it.But just call that number and be sure

(01:06:23):
to leave your name, number,the location, dating time of the event,
and you'll be contacted propertly. Againthe number six one four or five
six seven, six nine seven.It's in uh continuous answering line so that
you you don't you know, sothat we're always able to keep track of
who called. Well, I wouldsay this, we witness y'all in motion

(01:06:45):
and it was awesome and amazing.Indefinitely, if you are someone who you
have a private event or you havea private party or something going on and
you want to live man, Iwould definitely high recommend the William Brady Band
because they were awesome and amazing theway that they It's like when it was

(01:07:06):
light outside, they was rolling.When it got dark, they brought out
the lights with the on the guitarand everything and everything awesome, amazing.
Y'all did a great show and missusMandy did an awesome, awesome awesome job.
She knew how to follow y'all,and she just rocked with it,
like I absolutely loved it. Sobefore the show, we're kind of coming

(01:07:30):
towards the end of the interview time, but before we do, I definitely
want to go back, and Iwant to understand because when I was really
a bio, you said that youhad gone up the probation a few times,
and when they denied you, youdecided to create the Universal Support Network.
So tell us real quick, whatis that. Well? I went

(01:07:50):
to the Parole board, and thisone I had been flopped or been continued
for the fifteenth time. On uhChristmas Eve, two thousand and twelve,
I went before the Parole board memberswho said, well, mister Whiteside,

(01:08:10):
guess what, We're going to giveyou a good Christmas present. Instead of
us given you the five years wewere going to give you, we're going
to give you three more years andso on. In January of two thousand

(01:08:30):
and thirteen, I appeared. Iwas the last face on the front cover
of the other magazine of the othernewspaper, And the other newspaper was the
other newspaper that out signed a dispatchin Columbus. I did the last article.
I was the front page of thelast article. In February of two

(01:08:53):
thousand and thirteen. I got withmy cousin, Desline's Weaver and told him,
I said, look, I'm partof this stuff. I said,
you know, we gotta figure outa different strategy to fight these people.
I cannot be a business partner becauseif you're established another business while you're in

(01:09:14):
prison, then they'll put you ina hole for having a business operations.
So this is what I need youto do. I need you to go
to the Secretary of State. Iwant you to register this name Universal Support
Network. Okay, I want youto list yourself as the president, and
my brother Douglas is going to bethe vice president. The woman who was

(01:09:38):
sponsoring me at this time, KarenTimis, I said, I need her
to be the secretary treasurer. Andand so what we're going to do,
We're going to use the Guindeon principle. That is where Gideon the Lord took
Guindeon one person and made him looklike he was three hundred thousand people.
And I said, so we're goingto take a small group of people and

(01:10:00):
we're going to uh and we're goingto make them look like a hundred thousand
people. So that's what we did. We took we took a small number
of people and uh started this organization. And so what I would do is
I would send instructions out in themail and then everybody would follow the instructions.

(01:10:25):
The next thing, you know,I said, now we've got to
have one big event. I said, here's what we want to do.
We want to go U stand infront of the Parole Board on Christmas Day.
They say, why a Christmas Day? So because anybody, they say,
anybody would give up the one dayof the year. Did everybody celebrates

(01:10:46):
If you were sacrifice that day,then you know something's going on. So
I had people picking it in frontof the Parole board on Christmas Day,
December the December twenty thirteen. Andthis got national attention. Uh, it

(01:11:06):
got local and national attention, andso uh people of the Parole Board,
uh, the Oja Department of Rehabilitiesand Correction, they had no idea that
I was doing all this from behindbars and so uh at you know,
so we decided we're going to dothis every single year until they started,

(01:11:28):
you know, like doing the rightthing, not just by me. By
a people period. I started anewsletter while I was working in the college
area, and the newsletter, Isaid, I want this newsletter to have
a different kind of name, soI named it the Sistler. I wanted
hot news. I didn't want theuh average newsletter that came out in prison
where everybody put in their poetry andeverything. I wanted this uh newspaper,

(01:11:53):
this newsletter to be an attack mode. So uh so the so after it
was established, the Universal Support Networkbecame the most recognized parole and in prison
reform entity in the state of Ohio. And all of this time and it
got to the point where I wasable to uh use the wherewithal to uh

(01:12:19):
soothe the parole board. They said, you will never win a lawsuit against
the parole board. I said,well, you know, I'm you know,
like like they don't know their armstoo short and box with God and
so at that point, at thatpoint I went in there and they could
not believe that this magistrate out ofCincinnati gave me a sweeping victory. And

(01:12:45):
I told him, I said,this is what we're going to do if
my feet are touching somebody's carpet outsideof this prison by September the first two
thousand sixteen, I will drop thesuit, but if you continue to try
to do this thinking keep me inhere, I will embarrass you for the
rest of your life. I inheritedthe name William Susan. They say why

(01:13:08):
William Susan, Because if you breakit down and says will Sue, I
got a reputation for hu shuge correctionofficers, and then I would just get
them to court and they just embarrassthem. I would uh, and I
would always conclude the statements as youas when we're concluded with this trial,
I'm going to show you that thesepeople are endowed with ineptitude, and then

(01:13:31):
I would prove it that people whowasn't correct. Um does the Universal Support
Network? Does it still help inmatestoday? I mean, I know you're
not in presidents more of course you'reout and about. Yes, ma'am.
I told told them when I left. When they asked me, they said,

(01:13:53):
like, how do you feel aboutleaving them? September the first two
thouses, I said, I feellike I'm leaving leaving my family and going
to visit a bunch of and sinceI hated penitentiary promises myself, I said,
I'm telling you guys, when Iget out here, I will not
forget you, my brothers and sisters. To date, I have eight hundred
people in prison a service. Italked to them a daily. I spend

(01:14:18):
my life in law offices and wetry to help people who can't afford traditional
lawyers who want to revisit them.So this is something that I do seven
days a week when I'm not withthe will Brady Van. Also, I
became an an ordained minister in umMarch of twenty eighteen, and I've combined

(01:14:45):
the ministry with the organization for thepurpose of helping and supporting families, prisoners
and their families. Because people keeptalking about Black lives matter, George Floyd,
if you could understand the atrocities andthe craziness, the goals on behind
bars that are unchecked, and thenlike you know, if it's not you,

(01:15:11):
who and so like and so uh, the our organization continues, and
as a matter of fact, toeven streamline what you're saying, I'll send
you some newsletters and keep you upon what we're doing in that regard.
But I am working every for everybreath that the Lord gives me. I
fostered that thing that my mother putat me in the song says, if

(01:15:33):
I can help somebody as I travelalong in my living, will not be
in vain. And that's and andyes. So every single waking moment till
the time that I lay me downto sleep and I'm thinking about my fellow
prisoners, they call me. Theysometimes they just want me to send them
a postcard so that they can heartheir name it mail call, you know,

(01:15:56):
that kind of loning. And sometimesthey just call me and so that
they can hear somebody else's voice,since your families and everybody has has abandoned
them and me myself, Desi,we were charing to him. We let
them know we are here for you, as long as we've got money,
as long as we've got air tobreathe. When you call, if we

(01:16:18):
can, we're going to accept yourcall. We're going to talk to you
or to pray with you. We'regoing to give you some system to let
you know you are not by yourselfand you will not be abandoned by the
universal support delte So. I usedto be a nurse in the jail system.
Um I used to work, andI used to when I lived in

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Georgia. I worked at Clayton CountyJail and I worked at foot In County
Jail. So I definitely understand whatyour thing because it is a completely different
world in prison versus you know outside, It's like completely different, you know
what I'm saying. Completely, Theygot completely different rules and regulations. And
the crazy thing is a lot oftimes, um, the prinsons know what

(01:17:02):
the what the people have done beforethey even come in, Like they already
know you know a lot about youknow, the crimes of different stuff like
that, and and they have theirown little system on how they deal with
it in the prisons. So Idefinitely understand that. So for for those
who have family members who are inprison right now and they need that and

(01:17:23):
they or friends or people they knowand they need that kind of support system
because I understand, Like even whenI was in the military, they training
you you want to hear your namecalled for mail and stuff like that,
Like that is true because it's liketo feel isolated. Excuse me, my
daughters made me baby to their catand this kid and they was working my

(01:17:45):
life back background. But how canthey get in touch with someone or you
or you know, tell them thewebsite and how they could get in touch
with the Universal Support Network. Ifyou look at the Church of Universal Support
and Truth. If you've got justlike it sounds, Church of Universal Support

(01:18:08):
and Truth, you google that,it will show you. Uh, it
will automatically to come up. Thefirst thing it will come up is the
U M them that looks like Supermanand it has it's a Universal Support and
networt. And then follow it willcome up the Church of Universal Support and
Truth. If you click on historyto tell you about me and and and

(01:18:30):
how I got started in all thiskind of stuff. Um, you can
look at the newsletter. You canlook at, uh what it is that
we try to do. You contactme if if you're in Ohio and um,
and you've got somebody in Ohio thatis having a difficult time in some
kind of circumstances. Uh uh ifif it's a legitimate concern, um,

(01:18:59):
we will check it out. Andthey know us. They know us in
the Department of Rehabilities and Corrections inOhio. Now that doesn't include other states
because uh, we don't know thatmuch about their policies and their procedures in
other states. But when it comesdown to what's going in Ohio. Um,

(01:19:20):
and then we have looked outside ofOhio for uh for for uh stuff
like that, but it causes usto have to learn what the policies are
in that particular state. But goto that website on the website, we
have the website pulled up if Churchof UFA is that what is that Church

(01:19:45):
of ufat dot com? Right,church Church of ufat dot com And just
simply ch use and you can youcan use the email that's at sea like

(01:20:05):
cat A, like Adam In,like Nelly D, like David Key,
like Tom Are like Robert you tlike Tom H like Henry three zero at
gmail. That's can truth and thatsense for the Church of Universal Support and
Truth at Gmail. So uh themright, you have a Facebook pook program

(01:20:30):
called Perception is Reality, So that'swhat they can find fo. Yeah,
and that's getting ready to get crankedup because I'm kind of do what what
uh kind of what you're doing auh on a on a uh YouTube level.
Right, I'm trying to just tryingto make some stuff happen, you

(01:20:53):
know, and so for whatever Jehovahallows me to do, uh, you
know, whatever you allow me todo I'm gonna be added as much as
I can buy it through His SonJesus, by the part of the Holy
experience, all the wonderful angels thatthey use to dispatch around me to make
sure that I keep on doing whatI do. Come on now, So

(01:21:15):
if they're coming towards the end ofthe interview, can you please tell them
how they can you know, ifyou any social media any shout out anything
that you want. And also afteryou do that, um, what are
some words of encouragement or advice withinyou know, a couple of because we
know you can get on in there. What tell us you know, what

(01:21:40):
words of advice or encouragement do youhave for an artist you know that's trying
to make it, or for someonewho's in jail who their goal is still
to be to get into this oryou know, into this. Cop means
like what advice do you have?This is whatever God puts in your heart.
But first of your shout remember allright, remember to my shout out

(01:22:00):
is always first to the most HighJehovah, God is Son Jesus, by
that blood and the Holy Spirit andthose angels. Just like I said,
so, my first shout out isalways going to be there, and to
everybody else who was kind enough totune into this program, I see what

(01:22:23):
they're doing. So my shout out, even in that regard is the hope
that you will support what this onthe move movement, because it appears to
be something that helps if you're goingto be a musician. The thing is,

(01:22:44):
it's a hard business. It's anugly business. And the whole thing
is, if you want it badenough, never get up. Just remember
you may not be Alicia Keys,you may not be a Resa Franklin,
you may not make it. Goalsaren't always meant to be reached. There's
something to aim at, aim high, and keep aiming until it's all over.

(01:23:10):
It's like the old folksing backseats inthe Southern Times. They says,
stay in the field until the warhas ended. So stay in the field
until the war is ended. Ohyeah, oh yeah, I felt that
right there. Definitely appreciate you comingon ableness Norman the White Side. Do
you remember the name uh jay isthe song? Yeah? Jiop? Was

(01:23:35):
that for that mixed right there?Um? When is that that new?
Um? Your new album woman releasedas well for this year? For next
year, the same people who contactedme in two thousand and eight. I'm
waiting on Rob Severe to do somethings. Uh, and it's not entirely
his fault. Said, I've beenspending more time with this prisoner stuff than

(01:23:56):
I have with the with the music. I mean, I do everything in
terms of priority. So Jehovah's goingto arrange it and come for me to
do. And like, all I'mgonna say is stay tuned. I believe
you might enjoy it. And I'llgive you all a sample of a YouTube,
Miss Patricia and mister Kenn, I'llgive y'all a sample of it,
you know, so that y'all cansee what's coming. Okay, Well,

(01:24:17):
we appreciate you so much, misterWhiteside for stopping by, for sharing some
of your history with us. Iknow it's hard sometime to go back and
have to talk about that different stuff, but I love how you took a
negative situation and turned it into apositive. And yeah, here on one
movement on the script that our goalis to support the independent movement, the

(01:24:40):
independent music, the independent musicians thatonce out there you know that may not
be mainstream. Our goal is toconnect the artwork with the person so you
know who it is. You don'tjust hear the music, but you understand
who they are and where they camefrom. So I love that you were
willing to come and talk about yourselfand how and how you know, you

(01:25:01):
became a member of the William BradyBand. That makes me understand the band
a little bit more. I'm reallylooking forward to interviewing We are looking forward
to interviewing some of the other membersof the band and let them tell their
story as well. But your storywas, you know, you were the
first, you know, I walkedup to you first, you were you
know, I was dancing right by, you know, and when the song

(01:25:23):
ended, you was like the firstone. You know what I'm saying that
I walked to not really knowing whowas in charge of whatever, but didn't
matter to me. I just lovedthe band. So it's good that I
was able. We were able tointerview one of the important members of the
band and see how y'all came together. And definitely, you know, hopefully
a lot of people here in Columbas, Ohio, Central Ohis I'm guess when

(01:25:45):
you go out to Cleveland, Cincinnatiand all those different places in Ohio,
are you willing to go to otherstates as well. Have you been out
of Ohio to perform the William BradyBand? Yes, we have m so
that means they're rules form or wherever, and I'm telling you the band is

(01:26:05):
worth is your rule. Should havebeen at the rear Fest. I don't
know, y'all should have been upthere because y'all would have had it going
on. Oh my getting this,y'ad that good? I do go down
and you hear just his skill oldwhen we played the mix, that's just
his skill. Imagine all of ittogether, y'all. Ye, they was
vomity. I appreciate you so much. You're coming on the move unscripted.

(01:26:30):
UM, we wish you nothing butsuccess. UM. Definitely would love to
come out and see y'all again,you know, or whatever at another event
or time or whatever. To definitelykeep us posted and what the phone number
once again that they can reach outto y'all if they want to. I'm
hire you hire the band six sixone four four or five six seven six

(01:26:53):
nine seven, And remember when youcall that number, Uh, it's always
gonna be a recording because that's howwe'll be able to track and keep whoever
it's calling, so be sure toleave your name, your number, the
location, dating time of the event, and somebody will contact you promptly about

(01:27:15):
the band's availability. Probably uh,probably mister Brady himself. Awesome and amazing,
awesome and amazing. Thank you somuch for you, Thank you so
much for having me, and thankyou so much for letting me talk about
the William Brady band and all thewonderful people who make it is what it

(01:27:38):
is right interview. Definitely what Isay that they turned out like, they
turned out like I wish we couldhave had, you know, like a
snippet of the whole band and whatthey say. But I did put it

(01:27:59):
on face because I took some videoI've been performing. So definitely you go
to the Atlanta Music in muz Isee the Atlanta Music Industry group on Facebook
and you can check it out whenI posted, you know, about the
day's show or whatever. But thatwas that was awesome, amazing. So
what's up? What's up Saturday?Are you? Are you rolling back?

(01:28:20):
Because you know, we've been takinga little breaks. Were having fun in
summer, y'all. Don't be stressingus. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna be back on the d Saturday. Well, if I was gonna be
the following sidey, if we're gonnago look at some bands, We're gonna
cheet over there to this avoid herein Columbus. You know, we are
looking for some bands to listen.We're actually looking for covered artists as well.
So we're gonna have some more shows. What it was what I'm gonna

(01:28:42):
be doing, It's gonna be playingsome interviews. It's coming up with some
arts I've been working with out therein North Carolina and um a few other
artists coming out of Atlanta as wellthat we're gonna be talking too. So
those things were gonna have some interviewscoming out. Always gonna have new music
because I'm trying prepared for fifty theanniversary of Hip Hops is coming up in
August. So yeah, and definitelyif you are banned here in Ohio,

(01:29:05):
Columbus, you know Cleveland and youknow wherever you are. We do have
a client that is looking to hirea band um for septem for Labor Days.
So um, you can reach outto want to move show at Hoppner
dot com, or you can reachout to mister Stout Um Kenneth Stout seventy
one at gmail dot com. That'sthe boy. I'm Dignity Hunt and y'all

(01:29:28):
guess what we're getting married? Yeah, yeah, Radio wife Began is about
to turn into the real wife.Hee. How about that, colhombus.
But we appreciate y'all for tuning in, you know what I'm saying and checking
us out. So definitely go andum you know we cannach opportunity and go

(01:29:48):
back and listen to the show.Write down on support numbers. Um.
Also if you want to hire themsix one, four, four, five,
six seven, six nine seven,it's definitely And we worked while he
said it's going to be recording,so lead your information right And I also
gets up on Atlantic Music Industry ofthe Church of US at dot com,

(01:30:12):
so you can get the information fromthat as well, and you can see
the whole story about moment of lifeside himself as well. Yeah, that's
awesome that he supports um, theyou know, the inmates and stuff,
because he's right, like, it'sa whole different world in prison. It's
a whole I mean sometimes when I'mgay, you supposed behind me where to
go in I used to feel it, you know what I'm saying, and

(01:30:34):
so they need that support, Theyneed those letters and all the things that
whatever kind support, you know,they they they really the um what they
call it, the little um,the little like bags of gifts and commissary.
They live for that kind of stufflike that is their life, you

(01:30:55):
know. UM. So definitely reachout to him if you know someone who
was happy to do some time andthey don't really have the support, you
know, or if you're someone whoyou're listening because I don't know how y'all
get them cell phones in jail,but if you're listening and you need to
get in touch for him, youcan go to the website. What's the
website Church of AT So it's likechurch oh s U s AT Universal Support

(01:31:23):
and Truth. So it's a Churchof U SAP dot com and you get
the Church of Universal Support and Truth. Like you said, when you do
all the website, you'll see likethe looks like a Superman logo. Yeah,
And a lot of times you needthat inspiration and encouragement to get you
through when you are going through arough time. And I know that,

(01:31:44):
you know, being incarcerated for along term time can can can really put
a strain on your your mental andyour emotional and your spiritual. So you
need those kind of support systems.So for anyone like once again, who
you know someone is in jail rightnow or hit it their way there or
whatever, you know, definitely offerback to them or send them that way

(01:32:05):
or whatever. And for those ofyou who you are incarcerated, we understand
things happen in life. You know, we all make bad decisions or we
all get sometimes get blamed and stuffthat it's not you didn't even do and
all that kind of stuff. Butthe point is that's over and done.
You're doing your time when you comeout. You know, society needs to

(01:32:28):
stop judging you for what you didback then because you've already served your time,
you know. Yeah, So Ireally hope that they get the laws
together where they help more people whoare coming out of jail getting jobs and
just really get back to life andstop just keep them punishing them for another
twenty and thirty years for something they'vealready paid their time. You know.
Some people, yeah, they they'rein and out and it takes them a

(01:32:50):
long time to get it. Butsome we'll get in there, they'll do
their seven years, five years,six years, whatever, and they'll come
out and they be ready to changetheir life of society. Don't want to
give him the opportunity. So UMorganizations like the Universe Support Network is there
for you, you know. Yeah. Yeah, so we appreciate y'all until

(01:33:11):
next time. So I don't know, we'll probably come on next week.
I have some people that I wantto have actually, UM meet y'all to
its as well. So we learnedup to you some stuff next week art,
but we got another interview. Souh. We're definitely looking for UM
moderators to as since with the LatinMusic Industry Group because you know, I
got a lot going on and Iworked, so sometimes it becomes overwhelming for

(01:33:33):
me, you know. And Ihave some moderators, but we're always looking
for more. And we have onethat actually um um lifted Terrence uh,
Terrence Jay Bennett. Um. Yeah, he's actually just became one, you
know, and he's got a lotgoing on to I think it's Terrence Jay

(01:33:53):
Bennett soon Senior. Yeah, yes, well the DJ Coalition that also he
does something with Hype magazine and UMI saw where he does some stuff.
But UM, what's the one thatalways telling them everybody? Tim Tim tim
Z. They always he does.He's bringing a wealth of information and wealth

(01:34:15):
of knowledge and stuff to the Lettingmusic industry groups. So that's what's up,
you know. So we're always lookingfor more. Like I said,
you can reach out to mister Stoutum uh Kenneth Stout selling one at gmail
dot com. Or you can reachout to me on the Move show at
hotmail dot com. Or you cango to Facebook and senders a message.
You know, Atlanta Music Industry Groupdot com. And we also have Ohio

(01:34:39):
Music Industry Group that music is selfregular with Ohio Music Industry. But we're
always promoting. This is what wedo, this is what we love to
do. And even though we're bothartists ourselves, we understand that for the
movement to move, we have tounite. Yes right, yes, the
indeed revolution is here y'all and itwill be televised. Don't get let's turn

(01:35:03):
up, I mean before we hangup, but just the first day to
speak you can't be at to tellyou and on the move sip what's your
name? Where you calling from't gantcalled? Thanks doing ready, thanks for

(01:35:26):
listening, and definitely check us outnext week as well at M East coasting
standard time. You know, letme turn up on the move unscripted until
next time. Y'all. All right, guys told myself with around you come

(01:36:06):
around, I was a fool boy. No same mobile. Even though I
want to be read, I justcan't wait around now. You told me
your ready. Time I find outbecause coming past. But I got dad

(01:36:32):
to get up and then your friendto get you take my brea, myself

(01:37:03):
my time. I gave you myside, my time, sacrified destroyer.
You don't time, don't and youbring me out and do it out.
It can't be your food so game. Even though I want to be I

(01:37:30):
just can't time. Night's tolling.You're ready time and fun out because then
but I got bad to city readyand I know you come on get to

(01:38:04):
uday read myself. Even though I'mgonna be win you, I just can't
win a round. Ain't coming youready this time and the best coat,

(01:38:31):
But I gotta day. I gottasay to go get up by you get

(01:38:53):
to day. Ain't gonna read myselfyour buddy love you ready to do this?
Yeah? He climbed to the clignto the right, and that ain't

(01:39:17):
trail ride way ride to night anywhere, cligned to the sign to the right.
Here, I ain't trail ride wayride to night, the trail ride
barter, come the trail ride barter. Don't stop been Steve in the building.
You can call the horse, justas I haven't walking around the block

(01:39:38):
rail rode eating up cow girl GUINDIup trail rode, eating up cowboy guid
up trail ride. I'm a highboster this horse, this slide. I'm
gonna come to the girl. TellI come on, that's ride right right
everywhere we going look just like alook out turns they're coming better look out
sid ride with us and it redhere red std I'm gonnare how snipping all
this little don't need no strailer,don't get no better Stevon, same brain

(01:40:02):
and pressure and trying to put thewhole world on this. Yes up sligned
to the house, slide to theright. He ain't trying ride away right
to night. Sligned to the houseto the right. I ain't try ride

(01:40:24):
way right to night. The trailride party, the ride party. Don't
stop me. Steve in the milding, you can call the horse is not
your haven't walk around the block,rail around, eating up cow girl,
getting up around Up Cowboy trail ride. I'm a high boss this horse and
slide. Tell I come on lastride right jacket. Jill went up the

(01:40:45):
hill and it was good old timeJack and broke his crying and little Jill
behind. I put a pola likeride with a cow girl. The ride
a trail ride. Ride cowboys ridewhen trail ride, slide to the house,

(01:41:09):
slide to the right. It ain'ttrail ride. We ride to night.
Slide to the househod slide to theright. It ain't trail ride.
We ride to night the trail rideparty. Come to the trail ride party.
Don't stop be Steve in the building. You can call the horse.
Isn't the natural image walking around theblock? Trail ride eating us cowgirl guinde

(01:41:32):
us trail ride Up, cowborn,get the trail ride. I'm a high
boss's horse and slide. I'm onthe country girl. Tell her come on,
let's ride right when I made mistake, and I think you'll face it

(01:42:48):
when you walk away, and Idon't want to bake mypin, but all
you walk with bothing to tell youhow I feel. I hind behind my
bridy. Now just got to keepit me. I shot into the wild.

(01:43:19):
I shot into the wild, andhere I name a broken man to
kill you how I feel. Ishut into the wild where it's going through

(01:43:45):
a long but it hasn't gone tofar. Do we get alone? Or
don't we get that bar? Andall you wanted to hear your name?
And that no us to if thewind does call in beheaven called the girl

(01:44:13):
wake? Then I shot into thewild. I shot it too the wild,
and here I say a broken thingto tell you how I feel.

(01:44:38):
I got into the wild and allyou've gone when here the simple things and

(01:44:59):
that I'm blick you and do therain of phone him call you, don't
wait to plan. I shout itto the wild. I shot it do
the wild. I shot you whenyou live to tell you how I fear.

(01:45:32):
I shot it to the wild.When they came to the ball,

(01:46:06):
just go follway to the bad placefor me. We try to make away.
Oh God, cry M l tow side, beloved. So I

(01:46:48):
run my childhood while he bless forgood independent where the blessing I managed a

(01:47:14):
round walls pressence of recessions. Imanaged to push pull. That's why I
drop choose, That's why I wanta fool back yard, black car,
give me love the ball, Neverback Dad, you found with the dot
board going to the your sports.Never hold up. I wanted all up
the favorite places that yelling hold Ihold line, I ain't work in the
dreamwork r in a drop card Mayshowing a light work names in the name

(01:47:36):
with the stone work, Jasonett onmy net, increase my net work.
Pull the extra round, made momsmack be home before the streets in the
gun stays round, hit on backdown, shot to Mac Browns through basketball
or the Baxter ground. Balls onthe ground when Sitcom the White Dick comes.
Daddy smoked the RecA. Mama playedthe Rica and on a detect her

(01:47:57):
the text for sleep be the manof respect, Dad, bless the kid.
Me do my window. Paine seeingthe liberty statue and talk about the
downs my limited statue. My fatherwas gount all night. The streets came
back with gifts. Never had thesleet. Can't imagine what you gave up.
Think when you never gave up tomarriages, shit, to miscarriage shit.
God chose me one of the threeback against the wall. Didn't lay

(01:48:20):
on your back. We slept onthe floor. Dad never came back.
Leave clove and no bed, nodresser, do homes game cols we fresh
trash boy in the night knife deadbodies across my outside up streets gave me
insight black pocket knife for the fifthwhite throwing sight. We was in mature
all. Wayne left the drama insipping bottles like Mike's like Ripert Height again,

(01:48:43):
slept my ghetto prison, became aghetto prisoner. M enough, had
enough for the system, refused myselfno place in blame, playing victim,
different world. The Wayne Wayne foundWhitman. I came my refral. God
blessings came with me, love andjucate with beat. You stuck with me
for lea boy Levin and God outyour program my mind that to sake,
the government can't cat my grind daddarap. I can't relax. I stand

(01:49:05):
here fighting flight and strengthen its dorms. Right, I can't right, right

(01:50:19):
crap, and you will make youchance to channel channel kill and kill out

(01:51:30):
people kill out there you go,bear cel phon. I'm alone on this

(01:52:25):
island, niches me and my phone, staying on styling letter ring. My
past is behind. It can't evensee it. My path hasn't likened me
to leave it. I said thatI ain't gonna get vain. How about
that play my part doing well?Just like that, I don't know matt
ain't no telling where I'm at,and that's I leave. There's no need

(01:52:45):
for coming back. And I knewthat this would take me very far.
I made my way to calmer waterswithout no car. Where is that?
There? Go there? Go there, go there. All this trauma only
made me want to rise. Withtoo much trauma, I need balance in
my life. I stay focused.You could see it in my eyes.

(01:53:08):
I see commra for what it isand no disguise. It's okay. I
found my way. Yes, Itraveled through temples separate from the brain,
but it's all in the mental runno ways get away, okay, I'll
be that example. What's that feelinglike when you score but you stay in
the angel? No God to tellyou that I'm God? But I'm not
made upstairs. I thought myself intwo weeks distance and then now your parents,

(01:53:29):
I'm so to determined. I ain'tto florist strength and courage. I
made it here, no looking back, and not to serve it. I
said that I ain't gonna get bad. How about that? Play my part?
Do it well? Just like that. I don't ain't no telling where
I'm at. And as I leavethis don't need for coming back. And
I knew that this would take mevery far. I made my way to

(01:53:50):
Cama. What is without no car? Where is er go? Eric?
Where there go? There go?They love my man when it met from

(01:54:13):
just let it roll love again?Yeah, if it's an address team to
my cream, she already know whathe. I ain't got a good fee.
You know that the show I don'tlove got one food and one down

(01:54:33):
the show ever, don't go mancy, I'm gone on more. Ain't tain't
eeringly can't remember. Keep your feelingthunder your feet when you pick it up.
Just I don't want to away yourtime. Don't want to play with

(01:54:57):
your mind. Good sack can madeyou go crazy your motions. Can't get
this pride. You can tell methat the thing it oh mind? If
the taking I ever had it?Sing that blind. Don't get attashed to

(01:55:18):
me. Baby, it's one night. Don't tell me I get the mistake
while me landing and drawing on mygame. Treat this like Agnes girls,
don't get attached, don't call ittext me unless biens. We came to
nothing can't be more than this.We can't serious remember keep o fending thunder

(01:55:48):
your feet when you back it up. I don't want to wait your time,
don't want to play with your mindgood that can made you go crazy
and you motion in this bride.You can tell me that then than it,

(01:56:12):
oh mind and then taking never hadit tha that blind. Don't get
it bashed to me, baby,it's one night what del You can only
get this ride from me with dieto busted, busted, busted buffy del

(01:56:33):
No, the deal can only getthis dealing from me with die so busted
busted, busted, bumping because Ijoin if your because I your rind to

(01:56:58):
busted busted blushes man, story linedon't make sense, but since sense can

(01:57:20):
be made, I'm fighting hell inthe selle undertaking my day. I'm here
to make fun, wisdom and love, giving you access to choices. The
anti drug, I am anti Dougbut as real as they come from the
hook or the line. Debate ismy tongue, which is my gun.

(01:57:41):
So I keep it loaded on safetyfront and like I'm not working less you
make me let's go trap in mymind that random better force off be the
breach of my time. I ain'tseen pressers pressure better keep up client.
I am on the of my jeams, so I don't stop firing. Trafed

(01:58:03):
in my mind mad random metaphors,pause metery for my nine irons, seam
press the pressure that I keep abuying. I am going the crease of
my dream, so I don't stopfiring old snap my mind strapped coming off
the top like a shape up,or like shape up or going my weight

(01:58:25):
while I get stronger, moved northwesttoward okay, see the rat lay my
mind being overlooked like Kanyade and forBeyonce, But it's Beyonce. I run
BNC, just walk this way.I rock all over the country to spit
so you will belong to me.No Taylor Swift Turade, miss a bad

(01:58:50):
habit stuck in my maxwell full oftalents like water. But I let folks
sell my verses whole sale. Butand I retails these far speaks my charge
less for better quality, like Ilead my process through out so well,
I'll be sure less like yourmar moreand more like then telf washing come submitting

(01:59:14):
with titan strength. Don't let itgo to your head. Create a brand
new being. Man. I trappedin my mind mat random redom for it
caused me to reach for my time. I ain't seen pressure depressions that people
are flying. I am on thethreat of my gam so I don't stop

(01:59:34):
firing. Trapping my mind bad randommetaphors caused me to reach for my nine
hours team. Press depressions had Ikeep for flying. I am wanted to
presup my team, so I don'tstop fires. A seat is your electric
because defeat you can bet up humantorch, bettering, wain fantastic order.

(01:59:59):
Man talk good in the good,So let's bombing those I take a else
and ease to help my brother growth. Then put them on too h feed
you compute too slow. I'm givingboots to ass to help you go like
take life. If I take theelsewhere ease, I leave you with.
If a conditional skin, take theelsewhere ease from the flame of bring,

(02:00:26):
you will be refinding cleanly, comingdamn to me. By being the friend
to me, you access to theking. I mean, after the death
gets caught you on the wrong team, face plumbing for diamonds. I'm yelling
a check. You chokers have noheart a time boss in the flesh.
You might renigg on your life ifyou caught it in the team myself construct

(02:00:49):
you trying to run Boston nor knee. I tracked to my mind bad be
better force, causing me the breachof my on. I seen. That's
a pressure that I keep was flaying. I am for the crease of my
jeans, so I don't stop firing. Trapped in my mind, mad random

(02:01:12):
metaphors caused me to reach for mynine I steam pressure pressure that I keep
for flying. I am on thecrease stuff my seen, so I don't
stop firing. No words for yoursets, so your books ain't made saint
quiet, you had no scripts tobe still today. I'm sick, but

(02:01:32):
I'm healing you so much. Youhealing like you're about to fall backwards from
the words I spring going you latenight, jump on you like you in
the dark, smart sly that's thecost of human chalk. No hark,
I smashed in my mind my finalfluid league in a news sent and station

(02:01:53):
or news sit keep getting Lacy ponesoide of harming me with the joint I'm
mons so to write my wrongs.I take what's left to write these songs.
It's an internet that reeled me inthe unholy alliance of official of men
at a winter of cane again untilI put down my penny behind barn the

(02:02:15):
metal, I griffin in discreet withan arsenal of blessing, treat to revel
with until you catch me in thetrap for jin it's a rap, but
the track in my mind, madrandom metal force caused me to reach for
my time. I seem pressure pressurethat I keep up playing. I am

(02:02:38):
on the tree of my teams,so I don't stop firing. The trap
in my mind, mad random metaforce caused me to reach for my nine.
I seem press of pressure that Ikeep for buying. I am on
the crease of my team. DoI don't stop fire Red the skate r

(02:03:19):
r R sk Rug scape and rugfrom by the way Rother, the way

(02:03:56):
space, the way truck, theway you did. That's skate r r
R Ska run room game. Whateveryou want to go. That's so much

(02:04:33):
kind. Let's go to your curve. That's go Arcus's side by. What

(02:04:54):
you want to go, we cango anyworth using today. We can go
into the air Cascade. I'm gonnasleep you up your feet and make you
roll away like the ring. Can'tyou go? Hope you're gonna go when
I go. That's my dream.We're gonna put up to the Morn of
the Caves games with like people stillskate I'm like, what do you mean?
Call on me? I the way, the way, dry the way.

(02:05:20):
Maybe we can go to the westfly by. Well, maybe we
can slide to the east cone likea feller in New York Indian part Escape
run right, skate right maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

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