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Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the On
the Sideline podcast with Jackson and Kyle. I am Jackson
and I'm joined here as always by the man who
is telling every NFL team he knows that Shitar Sanders
is worth a top three pick. Kyle. Kyle, how are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Uh? Do it pretty good? I would love a trade
up in that spot. Some would to take them. So
we'll see how it goes. Obviously we'll find out tomorrow.
But uh, you know, doing pretty good. A little uh,
a little nervous for my patriots there. We'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, we will see how it goes. Kyle. Uh, this
is usually our best, uh the show. It does the
best in the off season. So just to throw everybody
off and try to you know, messing stop a little,
we decided to do it now. We're early this time,
just trying to make sure we can you know, we
don't want things to get to do too well here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep everyone on their toes and uh,
you know, obviously not the best time for scheduling conflicts,
but we do what we can and yeah, we're ready
to get rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yes, Kyle, this starts sixth sixth time now we have
done a mock draft. Or we started in twenty twenty,
so it's been five years now of doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean we've we've this show has some years
behind it. Now. We have some dedicated fans, we have
some uh you know, still new fans rolling in and uh,
look at where we are now. Now we're we can't
get a single pick wrong. Now that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, we nail it every year, Kyle. What we do
here on this show is there's a lot of predictive
mock drafts. That is not what we do. We do
a mock draft where we are going to pick what
we would do if we were in the GM chair.
We're gonna go back and forth. I'm gonna do the odds.
You were going to do the events. That way, we'll
each pick our favorite teams. Shall we just jump in?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, let's dive right in. So, yeah, like you said,
you were doing the odd team. So you are starting
this draft and yeah, as right now you are on
the clock with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, yes, and I have the for anyone who's listening
to audio only wise, we have the video up on
the YouTube feed. If there's any issues with the video feed,
let me know in the chat and we'll try to
fix those. Sometimes things get wonky, but ultimately, yeah, again,
it's what I would do. Everyone knows cam Ward is
gonna go first overall, and I agree with everyone. I
think that Camboard should go first overall. I think he's
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very good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, he is very very good. Could you make a
debate on like, is he he's not the best. He
wouldn't have been the number one pick last year. He
may not have been a top three quarterback last year.
I still think he's a very very good quarterback prospect.
He may not be the number one consensus prospect in
this draft, but we all all know that quarterback plays
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the premium position, and we don't have a quarterback. He
have the number one pick. I think you have to
take advantage of that opportunity. And yeah, I think that
even beyond all that, I think he's a top ten
prospect in this draft. I think he has a ton
of talent. The ability to buy time, make plays, the mobility,
the arm, all of it comes together into a very
nice package. I think he has a lot going for him.
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And you know, this is a new era for the
Tennessee Titans. So we'll see it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah. Yeah, And we have been forever on and I
think we all kind of know our cam Ward two
Titans takes Kyle, Why don't you go with number two?
This is definitely something where Okay, we know that the
Browns will have a decision to make. You have a
decision to make. Here, are you gonna go? Shitters? Help
set yourself up for a pick four?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah? Do this all to help myself at the Patriots spot. No,
I have to be honest to all thirty two teams
or all the teams at least that I pick. And Yeah,
to me, this is a no brainer. It could be.
It could be a debate for other people. For me,
it's not a debate. This has to be Travis Hunter.
I think he is the best prospect in this draft.
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I think him going to number two obviously is something
that's good for Cleveland. And look, they could use help
a receiver, they could use help a defensive back, and
they have this all packaged into one. He's a very
very unique player and I think he's going to be
a slam dunk in the NFL. Can he play both
positions in the NFL? I don't know. I don't see
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why not for right now. But at the same time,
I still think you're getting a pretty good player at
two positions, and maybe he plays one in the NFL,
and that's still something that I think is going to
work out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, it just feels like it's a I think the
built in fail safe of if he doesn't work out
at whatever position you want to draft to Matt, he
can you know, potentially work out a different position just
feels like it makes him so much more valuable, right
because you never know what prospects, the great prospects fail
all the time. At least now you're essentially like doubling
getting twice the odds of getting a great player basically.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, especially in a draft with so much unknown too.
I mean it's been talked about a lot. This is
not the best draft we've seen. I think there's two
guys that I feel like, you know, what, are they
the perfect prospects? No, But at the same time, there
are two guys in this draft that I feel comfortable,
that I feel very strongly about are going to be
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good players no matter what. Obviously, like you said, nothing
in life and guaranteed, especially in the NFL. Draft. But
there's two guys that I feel very very good about
that are going to be good in the NFL. And
Travis Hunter is one of those guys. I think he
could be an all pro.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, well, let's get to the other guy. Kyle picked
number three, the New York Giants, who I think there
is a world where there is a trade here in
this situation, I figure we probably won't do trades unless
I mean, we'll leave the door open in case something happens.
But I just think that, listen, I like came on.
Thibodeau is a fine player. He's still, you know, under
relatively cheap control. He was a high draft pick, so
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it's not that cheap, but relatively cheap control for a
couple of years. But just he hasn't been good enough
to get you to not take Abdull Carter one. He
is the next best prospect available, and there isn't another
great one here. I think just I'm gonna draft Abdul
Carter and figure it out if I'm the Giants, So again,
what I would do, That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think that's one hundred percent fair and probably what
I would do too. He feels really, really like a
really strong player. There's obviously some injury concerns, but they
seem pretty minor overall, and you're like, yeah, I mean
the the explosiveness, the speed, the strength, all this off
the edge. I mean, he looks like a complete package,
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is an ed rusher, and you have to be excited
about for the Giants. You know, it's okay to load
up on strengths when this prospect is this good. And
I wouldn't really worry about need when you're that bad.
You know, focus on getting good talent in the building.
And he is, without a doubt, one of the better
talents in this draft. So I think getting a guy
like Carter makes a lot of sense here. I do
think a trade is on the table as well, especially
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if someone blows them away with a trade package. But
at the very least, you're getting a good player here
if you just hold on and make this pick.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, there are bigger needs, but also I mean, you know,
maybe the trade to Keveon Thibbadau after this, Like there's
ways that there's ways to do things.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you know, there's multiple ways, honestly, and honestly, like,
I don't even think it's a bad thing to say like, Hey,
if Tibotaum makes the leap, plus you have Abdul Carter
plus you you know, plus you have Dexter Lawrence in
the middle. Sometimes it's a good thing to just build
a strength and say we're we are going to dominate
the defensive line. That's not a bad thing either. It
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would help your defensive back even too. Defensive backs even
too if you did that. So I don't think there
is anything wrong with it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, if Thibodeau ends up taking the leap and is
now also an elite player, having three great edge rushers
like that, that's not a terrible world to be in.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
No teams would be terrified to play you. At the
very least, you're annoying to play against.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, as opposed to being annoying to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, which is what the Giants are right now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yes, Kyle, here we go. I think the mock draft
really starts here. You're newing the Patriots. Many people are speculating, well,
will Campbell be to pick here? But this is not
what you think is gonna happen. This is what you
would do. Yeah, Patriots say we're gonna have a fan
decide number fourth overall.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Pick what would you do they're calling me in this conciliary. Yeah,
so if this is how it goes, I love the
idea of a trade. If a trades on the table,
whether someone wants to trade up for Shud or Sanders,
whether someone wants to trade up for Ashton Janet. I
think both of those are on the table at this point.
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I would love the idea of a trade back if
this is how went and they missed out on Travis
Hunter and Abdul Carter for sure. However, we're not doing
trades in this one, which is fine. I don't I
wasn't expecting to do trades with their not being trades
on the table. I have to look at the whole
package here. You know, I have armand membu over Will Campbell.
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As far as the prospect goes, I think if I
went offensive tackle, that's what I would prefer. Although I
think Will Campbell could be a very good guard in
the NFL or tackle, so there is that position of versatility,
and I think he has a ton of upside still
despite some you know, up and down tape play as
far as his game goes. And the other one I
would consider, honestly is Jint at four just taking him, cause, look,
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is it conventional for a team like the Patriots to
take a running back but the fourth pick. No, But
this team just needs good players, and they haven't had
good players or players that are strict honestly, frankly fun
to watch in a long long time. It feels like
now at least five years, and he would instantly become
the most interesting player to watch on the team. And
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I think that's something that would have to take a
look at and seriously consider. But I want to build
this front. I want to build this franchise from the
line of scrimmage. I want to set the trenches. So
I'm going to take Membu with the pick.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, all right, Well, I don't hate it at all.
I think that you know, I'm also not as high
on Will Campbell, so I agree with not going that route. Yeah,
I mean, ultimately, again, you look at the Patriots, they're
just their needs on pff here, it's running back, wide receiver,
offensive line, Kyle, that's basically the higher offense.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, they need a lot of offensive film. So yeah,
you know, honestly, like, because it seems like Campbell is
going to be the guy if this happens, If they
keep the pick, and I'm not against Will Campbell, like
I would be okay with the pick if it happened,
and honestly, I kind of just have to accept it
at this point. Based on the reporting, I would be
okay with Will Will Campbell at this spot. I'd be
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okay with Memble with this spot. I would even be
okay with Genc at this spot. But I do think
this is an opportunity to trade back here and try
and catch a team desperate and maybe add some more
assets down the line as well, or just later in
this draft. So I do think they have a few
options here to look at. But if they just stated
this one, this would be my preferred pick, although I'd
be okay with any of those three.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
But I don't know. Is their team really going to
trade up to four. I think it would probably for Gendi, right,
that would probably be the Probably the Bear is coming
up to four.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's my guess. Yeah, I mean there is talk of
I guess Chicago potentially dangling even their second round pick
to move up to four. That I think that would
be an interesting one. I mean, even if you know
the Raiders seem to be bad in their eyelashes, at
gent two. If they're worried about someone coming up and
jumping them for them him, maybe they decide to move
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up to four or something like that. I think there's
a few options on the table there.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, number five, so there's bend this push for Is
Ashton jan T gonna go to the Jaguars? Now? Whereas
that was kind of speculated early on, I didn't seem
like it's gonna go that way. Now it seems almost
like fifty to fifty that'll eat Ason Graham or Janet again,
is what I would do. Uh. I think I would
just go Mason Graham here. I think he is the
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best player available. He fills in need. I you know,
I get it. There's other good players on the board
that I do like, but I just think Graham is
the other than tackle. He's the only real guy I'd
be willing to uh go a five yere and the
Jaguars have young tackles they want to develop, So I
think going Mason Graham makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely. I agree with it as well. I had this
in my uh you know, I did a little practice
mock draft earlier, so I had I had him as well.
In this spot. There seems to be like this pushback
on Mason Graham, like he's too short and stout, which, like,
I mean, I guess he's a little smaller. But at
the same time, like did we just not watch him
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push offensive linemen in the Big ten around for three
years or whatever? It is, Like this guy's a workhorse.
I mean, I really like him. I think he's you know,
I think we we obsessed over trait sometimes when it
sometimes you just need a good football player first, and
I think Mason Graham's a very good football player. And
I think that's going to go a long way to
the Jaguars, where, yes, this isn't their conventional thing, like
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you said that, this is a team that historically is
loaded up on athletes. They've changed their GM. This is
a new strategy and you know what, I just want
to get a good football player in the building who's
gonna you know, set the tone.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah. Oh man, I mean, what would what would Balky
do in this? He goes to Ashton gen D right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh? Would he? I mean I don't know, he could
go with like Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh yeah, that would be that would be a move. Yeah,
what am I thinking? Yes, Samar Stewart that's that's he'd
race that card in.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Actually, you know who he would do is what is
his name? The Georgia Linebo n Walker. Yeah, j definitely
take care.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, Yeah, there's some good, there's some good. Chun Balpy.
He's gotta be upset right now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That he's not making this pick. He's not looking at
all the athletes crunching the tape.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I think so, Kyle, number six, This is an
important one for this podcast. You got to make sure
you do Raiders Nations proud.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Here, Kyle, Raiders Nation. Look, there's been a lot of
gen Z talk at this spot, and like, I don't
hate it, I really don't. I think they have a
few other things they could look at. I really like
the idea of Walter Nolan on this team. I like
Ted McMillan on this team as potential play too. But
like I said, I think there's a couple of guys
that I feel pretty confident are gonna be very good
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in the NFL, and I think Genet is one of
those guys in this draft specifically. So is it unconventional
to take a running back this how Yes, But at
the same time, I just don't think there's a lot
of blue chip prospects. I think there's only a few
guys that would have in that spot, and so I'm
gonna take a blue chip prospect and take Gen t here.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, Yeah, I mean it's it's still a little early
for me, even with as much as I like gend
as a prospect just because of a positional value. But like,
I don't hate the idea at all. You want to
be good right now. That's kind of a Raiders thought
is they're trying to run before they're trying to walk
before they can run. Here, it's not the worst idea
in the world to get a guy who should help
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you be better this year.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, And you know, there's just there's just a few
too many like questions for me for the rest of
these guys in this draft. You know, Will Campbell's not
really a priority for them. They have a pretty decent
offensive line and obviously Colton Miller is a mainstay at
that left tackle spot for them. You know, like I said,
I do. I thought for a long time about Walter
Nolan in this spot, and that's probably the would have
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been my next selection. But at the same time, I
just think given a guy like mc Millan. I have
too many question marks in this spot, and that's why
eventually I have to go with the guy that I
feel like right away could step in and help my
my offense. You know, I'm going into next season with
Gino Smith, with Ashton gent. I got a really nice
quarterback running back Combo, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. No, it makes sense. So for the Jets, most
people are expecting them to go from odd Membo. Of course, Kyle,
you you right into that parade by selecting him earlier
for the Jets at pick seven. I think I am
still gonna go. I think I'm still gonna go tackle
here and get my number one tackle in this class,
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who is already at twenty two for PFF. But I'm
gonna go Covien Banks Junior, which is a Again, there's
a bit of a weird thing where now you have
essentially two left tackles right or you have a lou
Fashan who you have to make sure that or No,
I'm trying to remember is Alufa Shanhu a left tackle
or right tackle because I played both last year. But
either way, I'm dropping all Banks and we' and we'll
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figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I don't think it's a bad idea to figure
it out that way. You just still need some offensive
line help. I don't have the numbers in front of me,
but I remember we talked about it when we regraded
our first round from the first round from last year.
But Whenolo Fashanu did play left tackle last year, he
was very, very good. He just didn't play it a
lot because they had Tyrone Smith and they moved him
all around the offensive line, and he really struggled when
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he moved positions. But I'm still willing to say, you know,
left tackle, right tackle, we'll figure it out with these two.
And look the tape on Kelvin Banks. I think it's
a little inconsistent. But at the same time, there are
moments where he absolutely dominated some of the best players
in the game, and you could see that dominant force
with him. So I think it is a I think
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it's a good pick, and I think he's a I
think he's a really high upside prospect for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And someone helps us out in the chat by saying,
for a Sean was not your left tackle, but played
right tackle for three games when Morgan Moses went down.
That's right, Yeah, that's what I thought, and that I
doubted myself. But yes, so again there is that risk
factor bear. But ultimately, again Banks is the next best
player on my board. So that's why I'm going with that.
I'm assuming not everyone would do the same Kyle. Pick
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number eight is another interesting one with the Panthers. A
lot of ways they could go about this. A lot
of people are speculating Jaylen Walker here. What do you
think they should do?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Walker. I have him
a little lower on my board. You know, I took
a look at Johnny Brown Baron here. Excuse excuse me,
not Brown, Johnny Barron here, the defensive back. I think
this team could use a lot of defensive help as
it is. But that being said, I think my first
priority above all else is to try and put Bryce
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On in the best position to be successful next season.
And see what I have at the quarterbacks. The quarterback
is the most important investment in this team. And you
know what, if I stink on defense next year, I
don't really care. Like if Bryce Young good next season,
that's the biggest priority. I don't care if I win
five games next year as long as Bryce On plays well,
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so I want to get Teed McMillan here. I want
to get him a number one receiver potential option. And
so yeah, I'm gonna take the receiver and say, I
need to add talent to this offense. And you know,
I still have a lot of holes on defense to
figure out, but I just I need to fit. I
need to see this out as much as I can
before I worry about fixing the defense because this team's
still a long way away. But Bryce Young can make
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that go a lot faster.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's the correct move,
and I think that this is this feels like it
feels like it's Jalen Walker or Teed McMillan. And I
just can't imagine Panthers fans are sitting here and saying,
please give us the developmental you know, guy who don't
even know whose position is going to be playing on defense.
Like I have to imagine Panthers fans are thing, please
just give me the number one receiver, the guy who's
getting compared to Drake London, to Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, honestly, Uh yeah, I mean like, look, yeah,
I do think best case scenario, I think he is
a Mike Evans level player. You know, I don't think
the tape for Jalen Walker is as bad as it's like.
You know, some of the naysayers say, I think there
is some good stuff there, But at the same time,
he is developmental, he's still young, he's still played multiple
positions in college, and he's got to kind of figure
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out what he's gonna do at that spot. So it
is a risk. It's still a big risk at this spot.
It's still a top ten pick, even if you consider
this not a strong draft. I see the vision for
where Jalen Walker could be a really good player, and
I but like, I just want a guy who I
feel like I can throw the ball to a few
times and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, Michael with a super chat saying I'll question what
I'm doing with my life if it's Walker. Yeah, and Michael,
I didn't even make fun of the Panthers in this segment.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah. Yeah, the good thing you didn't do the pick
you probably would have given him Jail Walker. Yeah, I
didn't even have him on your board, but it's fine, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. Now now I'm picking a Saints, I think I
should give him like a pond here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right, Yeah, that's probably the right move.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now, Okay, I will still uh for the Saints fans
watching or listening, I will still play this out. I
was thinking about what the exact best move is. I
do you think they're in a bit of a weird,
weird spot. It's still too early for the quarterback stuff
for me. I just I don't love either of these
quarterbacks enough to really really go there. One thought I'm
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having is, so I really like James Pierce Junior. For
a lot of people, that's early. I don't know if
it's that early for me. Uh. John Campbell is also
player really like now he's you know, they don't necessarily
need a linebacker right this moment, but also tomorrow. Davis
is thirty six. Do you want to let him kind
of learn for a year and then and then play.
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I think I'm kind of in between in between those
two picks. So I think I'm just gonna go with
I mean, either way, you're kind of getting a guy
who's gonna maybe start on the bench, but the hopefully
get some playing time. I you know, someone says, hands down,
the best move is Will Campbell, but I'm not that
crazy about Will Campbell's what I would do. So I
think I'm just gonna go. If you know it's what
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we would do, I know, well i'll go. I'll go.
If too high Campbell here, I think that's that's the move.
Let him learn behind Tomorrio Davis for a year, He'll
get some playing time, and then maybe next year you
let him be a starter.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, I don't hate it. I probably would have gone
defensive line. You know, I think this is a good
spot for James Pierce. Honestly, he is also my number
two ed rusher in this class. It's something I wouldn't
have hated it at all. But you know, I think
conventional wisdom would say it's a risk. You know, the
consensus mock would say it's a much more of a risk.
So it would be an interesting back and forth if
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they debated that. But you know, I do think that
they could still add some defensive help, even though there's
not like a clear cut offensive option for me here.
But you know, I think that was an option I
would have considered Will Campbell here in this spot if
he felt this far as well. But I'm a little
higher on him than you, and so yeah, I think
those are the interesting ones, and you know, I think
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that's a very justifiable pick.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Still, yeah, yeah, maybe I should have gone a Pierce.
I don't know. I just like I can't. I can't
reach that much. People will get mad at me.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's fair. Yeah, I mean, look, I get it, so
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But honestly, like, if you're in between two picks, and
there's one pick that everyone's saying, oh yeah, that'll be
a smart pick, and I one pick that everyone's saying
that would be a massive reach, you should just go
with the one. Like the consensus does tend to be
correct because obviously more people, uh you know, you know,
more people that agree or something tend to be right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I it's fair.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No, I agree, And it screws over to the Buccaneers,
but I'm sure the Saints they want to do as well.
So you have that going on. Kyle number ten, the
Chicago Bears. Where are they going?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Weird spot for the Bears here, I think, because you know,
I think that they probably would have gone for a guy.
I think they wanted one of these offensive guys. Obviously
they want Genet. It's not it's not really a secret
at this point. So missing out on. That means they
probably have to go in a different direction. There's a
few different spots I feel like I could look at
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as far as the defense goes. You know, they they
could go for someone like Walter Nolan, but I kind
of like Rvon Dexter and Grady Jarrett unless they want
him to learn behind Jarrett for a year. I could
go with James Pierce, who was just you know, passed
in our last pick. I think that's something that could
work too, to pair him with Montes Sweat. But I'm
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gonna go secondary actually, and I know they got Brisker
and they got Kevin Byerd, but I'm also gonna add
Malachi Starks to this group, and I want the number
one safety on the board. I think he's a very
very good athlete. I think he's a very very good safety,
and I think he can come in right away and
help this team out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow. I think it's a bit of a bit of
a surprise here, Kyle. I think he's you know, a
bit again, it's what we would do, So we're gonna
that's that's how That's how this whole show is designed
to work. It's a bit a bit early twenty first
on the consensus big board. Also, I don't know if
people are looking at this as a massive need given
who they currently have under roster. So I'm a bit surprised.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, they have some options here, but like, I
don't know, I don't think defensive line like that. I
think they could have added another edge rusher. And it's
the same thing, like, is this still a bit of
a reach for a guy like Pierce or Mike Green?
I still think it's a bit of a reach for
that compared to someone like Starks. And like, yeah, I
think that it's okay to load up on a strength
here and get the best player available. I really like
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him adding to this safety room because like, look, Kevin
Bayern's not getting any younger, and you know, he's had
some up and down years as he's aged. Like I
think that this is a this is a spot he
could come in and help out.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think what it just comes down
to is how much do you value the player? Right? Like,
I think it's totally fine even if it's not a
pressing need. You don't have to always just draft for
what your biggest need is. You can just draft the
player you like. I think for me. I think it's
just players I like better still on the board.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's fair. Yeah, if you like other players more then
that's fine. I think Starks is going to be very
good player though.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah. Yeah, well we'll see how it goes. Number eleven
on the board here again, I think I should say
I think Starks would be very good player for them.
I think it would would would fit in everything. Number
eleven we can move along the San Francisco forty nine ers.
I think the two things I'm looking at here are, first,
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do I want to go with James Pearce just again
a player that we both really like, But is this
the perfect fit fit? I mean, I think they could
definitely use someone like him. I think the other thing is, again,
with just how much people like will Campbell, is it
worth it just to say, you know what, Okay, is
this the time to make a move like that because
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they could use an offensive lineman. It's it's again, I
think it's just probably a move I'm gonna make. I'm
just gonna go full Campbell here.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and I think it's fair. Look, I know they
have Trent Williams obviously, but you know, you can go
in a lot of different directions with this one because
you know him and Dominic Pooney they got last season
or both very good players. But you could add Will
Campbell to that offensive line, maybe playing left guard until
you know, obviously you move on from you know, Trent
Rich Trent Williams as he gets older. So yeah, I
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think it's a completely justifiable one and I think it
could be very good.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I agree Kyle Number twelve, Dallas Cowboys, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
All right? So the Cowboys I think have a few
holes on their roster they have to figure out. I'm
sure they were like crossing their fingers and all that
hoping that at that point Will Campbell may go to them,
because I think that they could use another offensive lineman
as well, and he probably would have plugged in right
away at left tackle. So yeah, I think that they
have a few options as well still that they can attack.
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You know, do I go for my next receiver on
the board, which would be Luthor Burden and say, I
want to add Luthor Burden to this offense to compliment
Ceedee Lamb. But I'm actually gonna go for the edge
rusher spot, and I'm I'm gonna pair Micah Parsons with
James Pierce. At this point, I want some help on
that defensive line. You know, I'm not entirely convinced Dante
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Fowler is my guy, and so let's go. Let's go
Pierce to pair with Parsons and load up on the
defensive line a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, there will be some people who disagree, just because
again we are essentially to James Pierce Junior fan club.
You and I both think that this guy is this
is totally worth a pick and anything. I think this
feels like he kind of fell just given how the
board fell for us obviously. Yeah, I would love this pick.
A guy who can also be out there all three downs,
I think really helps compliment Parsons, right who Parsons proved
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a lot in the run defense game, but we all
know you want him as a pass rusher. Having someone
who can kind of do it all just helps complete
that defensive line a little bit more. Yeah. I like
this move.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it's a really nice spot for them.
You know, I still think that they have some holes
on offense they need to address, but you know, I
think this is a very good running back and receiver
class that they can kind of wait on or good
running back class at least, and I think there's few
receivers they could still look at and try and get
some depth there, so you know, I don't think they
need to attack that right away.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah. Pick thirteen the Dolphins, I'm taking Johnny Baron. They need,
they desperately need corners. Now theres the you know, it
just just just feels like a you know, I think
he's the next highest player on my board. He feels
probably your biggest need. Feels like an easy pick for me.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, this feels like a slam dunk. I like
this pick as well. They need some help in that secondary.
They lost a few players this offseason, so absolutely no
debate for me as well. I'm perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
With that number. Fourteen The Indianapolis Colts. Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They kind of stumble into this one for me, and
I really like to pick for them. I'm gonna go
with Tyler Warren, who is my number one pass catcher
in this draft. Obviously, tight end is a little bit
different than wide receivers, so you know, that's why he
fell below McMillan and a few guys there. But I
think he fits what the Colts need. I think they
definitely need, definitely need a dynamic pass catcher, and I
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think he fits really nicely into this offense and should
help right away. So give me Tyler Warren in this
spot and get the Colts another playmaker.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, someone who you know. I I am a little
lower on Tyler Warren. He's still second highest on my
board currently right now, So like, even if someone's lower
on him, this feels like really good value at fourteen.
It's just a tight end thing. Like there's a lot
of teams that don't need tight ends, you know, so
like that's what sometimes a lot of times, tight ends
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like centers and you know, the positions where you only
really need one guy, sometimes they fall even if they're
good players. So yeah, I think that this would be
a really good, really good pick for them. It seems
like it's a very good chance this is what happens
as well, So yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, I think he's really dynamic and
I'm a big fan of his. He'd be a top
ten easily of my you know, overall board, and getting
him in this spot, I think for a team that
needs a tight end desperately too, I think is a
huge addition, and so yeah, I think this is this
This would be one of this would be one of
my favorite picks of the draft so far.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, and it would be a pick I would definitely
agree with as well. Let's go on to the Atlanta Falcons,
who are at number fifteen on this at this point,
and again it's a bit of a weird spot for me.
I'm trying to figure out exactly where I would go
because one thought I had is Mike Green, who it's
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a bit of a reach on my board. But also
I think they could really use an edge rusher. They
really struggled at that. I think that their secondary has
some maybe younger promising players that can can work. So
I think I'm just gonna go with Mike Green and
we'll see how.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It works out.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean, this was a huge problem for them last year, right,
they tried to make the Matthew Judon trade and fix it.
It didn't quite work out. And yeah, I mean, this
is this is a desperate need. I think for this team.
They do have to replace their center. Not really a
great interior line in draft. Plus centers don't really get
drafted this high. You could talk me into another receiver
to pair next to Drake London. Whether you wanted to
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go Luthor Burden or Matthew Golden. I think that's really
the only debate for me though. Do you want one
of those receivers? Do you want Mike Green? And I
like Green just to hair more than both of those receivers.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I just I don't know. I just feel like
I know the receiver is listed as a need. I
just I feel like they're okay there, you know, I
just feel like that's not they have much bigger issues.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they definitely need another guy, but
like what they got out of Moony last year and
that kind of thing, I don't think it's like the
top priority for me.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I'd rather get a guy in the third round. Again,
if the right player is avalle, If if pet McMillan
is still available, go for it. But like you know,
I think at this point I'd rather I'd rather stick with.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah. No, I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Okay, Kyle. Number sixteen the Arizona Cardinals, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All right? Cardinals for me, still need some defensive help.
I think they desperately need some players in this secondary
that has been very shaky the last few seasons, and yeah,
so he is one of the next guys on my board.
So I'm perfectly fine with it. Let's get Will Johnson
in the building here, guy who's played a lot of
football in college. He's got a lot of experience. I
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think he's a very refined cornerback, and I think he's
gonna come help this team right away.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, absolutely, they need I mean, again, the Cardinals had
a weird thing where you look at their roster and
on paper it looked horrible last year and I ended
up being like solid, but definitely they could use another
at least defensively. It looked horrible and ended up being solid.
Like Will Johnson, this is a you know, again, another
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pick that I could see happening and I think would
be smart.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that there is a
you know, they probably would have liked one of those
ed rushers to fall to them if possible. I mean,
I think that they had a few other options that
they still need to add on defense. I know they
got Josh Sweat, still feels like they could use another
guy on that defensive line, but you know, they still
need help in the secondary too, So I don't have
any issues with this.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah. Well, let's go to the Cincinnati Bengals, who are
next on the list, and again there's some some some
interesting ways you could go about this. I do think like,
is it too early for Derek Carmon, a good pass
rushing interior guy who I think can help out with
this part of music. I'm even considering, like, do you
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go Matthew Golden here? Just you know, I know it's
be insane for them to go with another wide receiver,
but like you know, would be pretty fun. I just
I think you're almost maxing out at a certain point
if you're passing attacks. I probably can't do that. I'm
gonna go with I think I'm gonna go with a
corner here, and I'm gonna go with my next corner
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on my board, Trey Amos, a player who, again is
it early for most people, sure, but it's not early
for me. I think he would fit that scheme. Yes,
they have some young players, but you need depth at
the corner position. To me, he could u he could
play outside corner for the Bengals, So I'm putting him there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, I like him a lot too. This may be
a little bit high for me, just because like, I
still have him as the next corner on the board
for me, but I had him a little bit lower
I think, on my overall board. But at the same time,
I think this is a good pick for the Bengals
who still need help in this secondary. They still need
to add some players to this defense for sure, and yeah,
I think that's definitely a spot where they they could
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address it. And I don't hate it at all.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, I only have two players ahead of Again, I
don't love this draft. I think that there's a lot
a lot of great players in this spot, so I
kind of agree that he's usually like a back und
to the first guy. It's that much of a reach
in this draft to get a back onund to the
first guy with pick seventeen.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I don't hate it at all. So I think
it's a perfectly justifiable pick at this point. But yeah,
I mean, I definitely think it's going to be an
interesting one that's discussed. I think going forward is like,
what do the Bengals do here? Do they reach for
a guy like this? The consensus, But at the same time,
I still think he's a very good prospect.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And I think this stuff's gonna happen. I think
we're gonna get some reaches in this spot just because
of the same logic I'm going with of like, uh,
you know, there's you know, I'm okay if reaching if
you're not getting that much worse of a player. And
I think that there's just a lot of players who
are kind of bunched up here.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, there really is. I really do think there is too,
So I don't hate it at all.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, Kyle Number eighteen the Seattle Seahawks, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
All right? So there's a few different spots we could
go here. You know, this team desperately needs some offensive
line help. But this isn't a awesome spot for me
for offensive line. I think they would kind of have
to move up to get one of those guys. If anything,
they could go back possibly or just reach for a guy.
As you said, this could happen a lot. You know,
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there is a lot of Gray's Abel talk as far
as the first round prospect goes, and even in this range,
I think that's someone I would that honestly, just because
I think they desperately need the help there. But I'm
gonna take a chance here. I think this team can
afford to take a little bit of a chance on
this defense and try and add a high upside player
who we've talked about a few times. Is he a
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perfect prospect, No, but this athleticism says a lot. And
I think he's at least better on tape than some
of the other high athlete you know, imperfect players. So
I'm gonna take Jalen Walker in this spot.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, Yeah, he's again a player I'm not crazy about,
just because I don't know what to do with him.
I agree, there are impressive things on tape like there
is like he is. It reminds me of the Trayvon
Locker thing of just like, Okay, this is an impressive thing,
and I just don't know what to do with this,
so I'm gonna let someone else figure it out. Like
That's just how I would view it. That's why I
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wouldn't probably gonna draft him in the first round. But ultimately, like, yeah,
I think it's it absolutely like why not do something
like this if you're Seattle won't have a chance to
get a stud player if it works out?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, the best version of this is he got
a pro bowler, right and and there's obviously a lot
of scenarios. I think this could also not work out
for them, But he's got insane potential and you know,
a guy like Mike McDonald, I would be really excited
to add him to you know, he's done a lot
of stuff in Baltimore with some creative and unique players,
obviously Kyle Hamilton in his stint there was a big one,
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and I think he could. I think he's someone that
could you know, be trusted into that Seahawks room with
Mike McDonald and he would find some creative ways to
use him.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, and for again, a draft like this where there's
not really a ton of light like blue chip prospects
like left right, it's mostly a lot of guys like Yeah,
I could maybe see you being like, you know, a starter.
Maybe there's more potential than that, but like that's what
I'm kind of seeing you as, Like I more wouldn't
take a flyer here, so I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, let me take the chance at this spot and
then we'll we'll figure it out from there. For sure.
I think that's kind of where I'm at with the
with the Seahawks in this one. Like I said, I
just think it's a bit of a reach for what
they really need, which is offensive line held.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah. Next up is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers my team,
And there's several ways I could go with this. I mean,
for one thing, you have to look at the Derek
harmon or kind of grant. Uh, you know, duo. Do
you go with one of those guys and just try
and get add another body in that defensive line. Uh,
that's something you could You could certainly consider. Even Colston Lovelin,
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although I don't love how he would pair with Kate Otten.
Feels like they kind of check similar boxes there. But
that's something you can consider. Do you want to go
if you want to go for safety here? To me,
I think I'm kind of reaching on a safety Uh.
If I do that, Kyle, I think I'm just gonna
pick the guy who I think is the best player.
I think I'm gonna pick Matthew Golden. I mean it.
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Do the Buccaneers need a wide receiver? No? There they
have Chris Godwin, Mike Evans. Uh, you know, do you
have other guys that you can can step up? But
I don't know. I just think he's the best player
and I want to just get the best player and eventually,
in theory, Mike Evans or Chris Godwin will get older
and play worse, and then you have a backup plan.
And hey, you have a lot of receivers play, right, Like,
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it's not just one guy out there. You know, Jaylen McMillan. Okay,
now he's the fourth receiver. He's still going to get
significant playing time. Injuries are gonna happen. It's not a
position I'm gunning for as a Bay fan. But if
he's available and this is the way the board's shake
him down, okay, let's just take him.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, Like, I don't hate the pick at all, obviously,
like you said, it's not a need for them right now,
but at the same time, it eventually could be in need.
You have two good receivers that are over thirty, right,
So it's it's something that is some it would have
to be addressed at some point. The tough thing, I mean,
the the tough thing for you in this spot is
the way our drafts has played out has not broken
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well for Tampa Bay at all. You know, we had
four corners come off the board, We had what is it,
three edge rushers come off the board, and two in
the last like six picks and then also Jalen Walker
who could be an edge guy as well. So it
just break the way Tampa Bay needed it too. Write
like they this is probably not the best case scenario
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for Tampa Bay, but they could still have a very
good play with getting a guy like Golden, So they
definitely need different different spots in their team. But like
I said, if the in Campbell got taken earlier as well,
So if this all goes this way, then Tampa's kind
of left in a bind at this point where maybe
this is a trade back spot for them as well.
Because yeah, just you know, I don't hate the Golden
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pick though when a vacuum, because I think he's a
good player.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I could definitely see a trade back with does
a team want to jump like the Steelers to try
and make sure they get a quarterback? I could see,
I could see it happening, and I would definitely say yes.
I don't know. I think Jason l like just came out
and said, like, teams don't want to trade down, which
shows where he's his mindset is at. If he's saying
that publicly that teams don't want to trade down, that
he's at least thought about it. But yeah, it'll be
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interesting if this happened. Kyle number twenty the Denver Broncos.
Where are you going? All right?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I am probably racing this pick up to the racing
to the phone to make this pick. It's happening right away.
I'm a little bit surprised he didn't go earlier in
a few spots, but this is the way our draft
board took out shook out. So let me get Walter
Nolan here with the twentieth pick. He's a player that
I really like on the interior, he's my next highest
defensive prospect for sure, and Bronco's already got a very
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good defense. I think they can even give him some
time to kind of ease into the position, but he's
also still kind of in need. So I like Nolan
in this spot, and I think that this Broncos defense
could get even better going into next season.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, I like him as well. I think he's someone
who can help out with the defense, doesn't need help,
but again, he's a body you can throw in there
on the interior. I'm not quite as high on him
as I guess PFF is, because he was like one
of their highest graded players. He's twenty fifth on the
consensus Big Board. But yeah, I mean, I you know,
I think he's I think he's good, and I think
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he'll he could help out this defense.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you know, this would be a
very interesting pick. I think that they would be thrilled
to have this shake out the way that it did.
So I think he could go in and you know,
play all along their three man defensive front and be impactful.
So I really like him in this position.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, Kyle, It's twenty one the Pittsburgh Steelers, and this
is Remember, this is not what I think is gonna happen. Yes,
it appears as though Aaron Rodgers is going to be
with the Steelers. That's where we're assuming happens. But you
know what, it's what I would do, and I would
not be signing a forty year old Aaron Rodgers at
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this situation. I would be I think saying, hey, let's
I know, the tunny PICKTT thing didn't work out, but
you know what, let's go into the season with another quarterback.
I'm gonna take a quarterback that PFF apparently hates. Jackson
Dart will be my pick. Here at twenty one.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Jackson Dart the next pick. I don't hate it, you know,
I have Shador Sanders higher, but like, I think these
two are pretty close. I have them both as probably
second round grades. But if it's a quarterback, I don't
hate reaching for a quarterback at all. So you know,
I know it's second ground grade, but you're taking the
chance here. I think Jackson Dart has some really good
things to his game. I think he's terrific out of
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play action. I think that is something that Arthur Blank,
their offensive coordinator. I think he's still the offensive coordinator
loves to do. And so yeah, I think going into this,
I think this would be a good situation for Dart
where even yes, I would still be very hesitant to
sign a guy like Rogers. I think Rogers learning behind
Rogers for a year could be beneficial as well. Anyways,
so I like Dart in this spot for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Wait Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith, Yes, Arthur Blank is the U.
I had to check that that Like, wait a second,
that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah you know who I meant?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I know? Yeah, a Falcons guy named Arthur Yeah, basically there. Yeah, again,
there are two teams there are three teams in the
in the league. There are teams that definitely have the
quarterback situation figured out, there are teams that maybe have
their quarterback situation figured out, and there are teams that
definitely don't have their quarterback situation figured out. This at
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least puts you into middle tier.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So I don't hate it at all.
And you're taking a chance here, and you know, maybe
he out plays Aaron Rodgers in the offseason or something
like that, So I definitely don't hate it at all.
And you take a chance on a quarterback who has some.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Talent, yeah, rather him than a guy who might just
end up being a We're talking about rotational players or
maybe starters type value at this point. Kyle twenty two
the Chargers, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I'm taking Luther Burden here, next player on my board.
He's a receiver. I really like. I even have him
over Matthew Golden on my receiver rankings. But you know,
I think those two are actually pretty close. And this
team needs some skill talent, so let's add some skill talent.
And I think that the way they may be able
to use him and Ladd McConkie could be really fun.
So let's put Burden and mcconki together in the same
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offense and run it. Although I know for a fact
that with two Michigan guys on the board, I feel
like John Harball would or Jim Harbaugh would definitely take
Cols Loveland over him. But I'm taking lou the Birthen
because I'm running the Chargers in this draft.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, feels like Colton Loveland to the Chargers feels like
that's what where things are leaning. But yeah, I would
love this pick, even as someone who's a little bit
lower and burdened than you are. I still have him
as kind of a fringe first rounder. There's so much
good stuff with his game that like, and I think
he would fit this system well. So yeah, I'd be
all for it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, blue chip athlete, he makes some fantastic catches, and
I just think he's a very good player. So I
wouldn't hate it at all. Like I said, I don't
even hate Loveland like I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind Loveland
in this spot. He's pretty close on my board as well.
I just like Burden a lot more. I would have
Burden in the top twenty for me and getting him
at twenty two feels like a feels like a good pick.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, makes sense. Twenty three. So now we have the
agreement Packers, which is a team I have not been
able to figure out what they should do this entire thing.
Kyle doesn't just make sense in real life for them
to trade with the Chiefs at thirty one. Chiefs come
up and get a tackle like that feels you know,
you're jumping the Texans and some other teams that might
want to go there.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I think so, yeah, so I wouldn't hate that at all.
But yeah, I mean I think that this could be
a trade back team. But I also think there's a
few good players on the board that could help him out.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Still, yeah, I'm trying. I mean kind of one thought
I'm going with. And again people are gonna call us
a reach and whatever, it's my opinion. I think it's
gonna go Jaden Higgins, who, Like, what did the Packers need?
They need someone who can win on the outside, Like
that's their whole issue with their offense. They're so good
over the middle stuff. But Higgins can hopefully be the
guy who can I think finish off this this offense.
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So again I'm higher and Higgins than a lot of
other people are. But like, I think this would really
fit this team really well.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I don't hate it, Like, yeah, he would be he
would be among my next receivers considered. I have a
Buka over him. But at the same time, if you
want an outside receiver, I can understand talking yourself into
Higgins over him for sure, especially with the inconsistent play
of Christian Watson and the inconsistent health. So I definitely
don't hate that at all. And I think that'd still
be a pretty good pick.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, and the Packers are weird. No pick makes sense
for them here.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, they do things a little bit differently. They're probably
going to go offensive line, right.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, probably that's I think that's the move. Yeah, the
idea of oh, the idea of them drafting a receiver
in the first round could only be done in a
mock draft probably. But number twenty four, where are you
going with the Minnesota Vikings?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah? So the Vikings are an interesting spot because this
is a very good team. They still have a few holes.
It feels like they need to plug and play here,
So you know, I don't I don't necessarily get the
running back need and I wouldn't go I would think
about a Mari and Hampton, but I don't really need it.
The two spots I'm looking at here is interior defensive
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line where Harrison Phillips is older. You have Javon Hargrave,
which you know, we'll see how that works out. I guess,
so could you go with Kennet's grand in this spot?
But I am going to actually go with grays Abel.
I'm going with Greys Abel because I think you saw
the issues with this offensive line towards the end of
the season, where you know, Sam Donald got hit a
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lot in those last two games. Some of it was
Sam Donald's fault. But you know they have Christian Derisaw,
they have Brian O'Neil. Those guys are very good when
they're healthy. But I still think you need some guys
on the interior spot. And I like Zabel a lot
and I think he could play left guard for Blake Brandle,
and if Ayrosol gets hurt, I think you can bump
to the outside as well. So give me the versatile
player on this offensive line to really help him out.
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And I like that pick.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
I wouldn't hate it at all. You know who would
hate it the Houston, Txans if this ends up going
right before, because Houston obviously would be desperately wanting someone
like this. Yeah, it's interesting. It's not something I see
mock too often, but I wouldn't hate it at all.
And again, this is maybe why you if you're the Chiefs,
you want to trade with the Packers, and I'm sure
the Packers would want to trade down.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's definitely a case for it
for the guys, So you know, obviously there is a
you know, they I think Grant would even be a
great pick here. But yeah, I think Minnesota is one
of those teams where, you know, I think they can
get a little risky with their pick anyway, because there's
just so much talent in this team. It's not like,
you know, I have a few things. There's a few
spots I think they could definitely plug in and find
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some improvement. But at the same time, there are a
lot of guys that I think are really good on
this team, and it's not like there's a ton of
needs right now.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, it's you're right, they're I mean, they're in a
you know, I mean, they're in a pretty good spot.
They've done a good job at drafting. They are also
a team that could be a trade down candidate, as
they tend to tend to like to do that. Moving on,
so now we have the Houston Texans, who again very
disappointed as to how this is all all broken down
after they were, you know, very much hoping to improve
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their offensive line. I'm sure you could go Josh Simmons,
you could go Josh Connory. I just I think that's
what they would probably do. I just kind of feel
like that's a a reach here, right, Like, I just
don't know if I love that player in this spot.
So I don't know, I think I'm just gonna go with, Like,
is it crazy to go kind of grant here, someone
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who you know, again, their run defense is pretty good
last year, but they could they could find snaps for
him again, build on a strength, and then just hope
you can fix the offensive line later on. I think
I think that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, I don't hate it, you know, I think it's
kind of adding best player available in the draft, and
I don't I think that's very okay. I like Ibuka
in this spot too, you know, help some offensive talent,
but at the same time. Yeah, I don't think this
is a this is a reach at all. And you know,
I think he'd be a very good player there.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, someone brings up Booker, which again I just I
don't think he's worth I don't think he's as good
of a player like I think you're getting, in my opinion,
by space of my violation, I think you're getting a
worst player if you do that, which is why I
hate going into the draft needing to get a position
you kind of I think the Texans might have to
sort of finagle to draft and maybe they're a team
that trades up to try and the offensive lineman they want.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they're in a really tough spot
because they made that trade right the Laramie tons on one,
they desperately need some offensive line help. It feels like this.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Season, Yeah, twenty six the Los Angeles Rams, a team
that all of a sudden turns out they're pretty good
at this drafting. The first round thing. Jared Vers last
year was a superstar. Kyle, where would you go with
the Rams this year?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, there's a few different options here. You know, I
actually have Josh Simmons above Zabel in my rankings. However,
obviously the torny cl scares me. And then the second thing,
I think Zabel's a little more versatile, being able to
play a little bit more guard where I think Simmons
did play guard in the past. But I think he's
more of a tackle at this point. But I'm gonna
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take the chance here on Simmons and say let's plug
him in here and add some offensive line help. I
think he could play tackle. He played right tackle at
San Diego State, he played left tackle at Ohio State
before tearing his AC. And there's a ton of traits
with this guy that you'd really like. So I don't
hate it at all, and I'm okay taking the chance here.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, I completely understand it. Again, he's not a player
that I He's not a player that I'm just as
crazy about that. That's the only reason why I didn't,
you know, you know, didn't make that move with the Taxans.
But if you like him, like sure, why not? I
mean the position of need and he has the trades
at least to be a good pass blocking tackle, which
is important when you have Matthew Stafford a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm perfectly okay with that. And
let's let's take the chance and see if we can
make something happen there. But yeah, I think the potential
for him is still high and he could definitely help
this Rams offense right away if he's helping right.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Didn't consider Shitar Sanders here at.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
All, No, not at this time. I'm not looking at
that right now. I just wouldn't worry about it at
this time.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Uh huh, Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair.
Moving on to pick twenty seven in the this is
another team that I kind of kind of struggle with
a bit because I'm kind of looking at it like
the top players on my board, so I have I
have Kyle Williams, but I wouldn't draft him the first
round because he's not gonna go in the first round.
I have Derek Carmon. Uh there's you know who is again.
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I don't think they need they don't need an interior guy.
I have Maxwell Harrison. I don't know if they need
a corner. I have Colston Lovelin. They definitely don't need
a tight end. So it's just kind of a weird
spot for the Ravens. I feel the way this has
all all broken out so I'm trying to think, do
I wanna do I want to go with like, uh,
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Mecca at Buka here who they don't Again, is that
a need for them? I don't think so. But could
they build off of a strength perhaps? I think that
might be what I do here with Kyle. What do
you think my next pick?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Would be very upset with that, But I don't hate it.
You know, you could go Donovan as a roku, you know,
potentially if he's your next defensive lineman on the draft.
You know, this team loves to bring in some edge
rush talent, so I wouldn't hate that as well. In
you know that that is a really tough spot because
this is another team that feels like they could use
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an interior offensive lineman. You know, I think Connorly's a
guy who could bump inside as well, so that is
an option as well. It's just nothing feels perfect to me.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, which maybe means I should just find a find
a player that that that I like, because again, the
interior offensive line is probably what I would do. But
you have Travis Jones, who's twenty five and plays seven
hundred snaps a year, and then you have Matta Buket
who plays nine hundred snaps a year, so like they're
on a few teams like legitimately wouldn't have space for
an interior defensive lineman, so you can't really do that.
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I think I'm just gonna draft at Buka, who I
think will be good, and we'll fit the scheme and
you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah. No, I definitely don't hate the pick at all.
I think he's a good player. And you know, let's
put it this way, like, are you still one hundred
percent convinced of Rashad Bateman after one season? I'm not
one hundred percent convincing them. So maybe this is a
spot where you just take a chance and say, let's
just give herself some insurance here just in case.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah, and again he'll get playing time, right, I mean,
like you have like like Kylon Wallace had four hundred
snaps last year, right, like you like now you have
h Eggbuka taking those snaps and there's other snaps to
be had. So yeah, I think it like DeAndre Hopkins
should not be scaring you off of drafting, you know,
a receiver if you want a receiver.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean we saw DeAndre Hopkins in some
big games last year, no shows. So you know, at
this point, DeAndre Hopkins was a great player. I'm not
banking on that adding a whole lot for me at
this point.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, if there was a better fit, I would go
with that. But I don't hate this pick, Kyle twenty eight.
The Lions do hate that pick. Not a half a scramble.
What are you thinking here?
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, tough spot for them. They really wanted if Buka
to followed them. He did not, so they're looking elsewhere.
And let me take a look at my board here
where am I at? So I could go with You know,
I have two guys here that I really like still
that are you know, highish enough on my board that
I'm okay with it, And they're towards the top of
this draft. You know, maybe we take a reach and
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a guy like Loveland and just say let's add talent.
But you already have a great tight end in Sam Laporto,
so you.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Don't need it.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
But you do need an ed rusher. You know, we
saw what happened when Aiden Hutchinson got hurt last year.
I know they added somebody in the trade as well,
but let's get Donovan as rokwuu. I think that's how
you say his name. Let's just add another ed rusher.
Let's get another body in there and see what he
can do. And I think he's a good player.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't don't don't hate this. Again, I'm
a little bit lower on him than other people, but
not massively, so I think that he's someone who would help.
And yeah, I mean it's the Lions are kind of
one of those teams whereas much nice to say, I
hate drafting for need, it's like when you get to
these teams, you can maybe make the argument, right of
let's just try to get a player who can help
us win now.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, And I think you know, he's got experience,
he's a smart player, and I think he's someone that
can come in and try and compete for a spot
and compete for some snaps, even if he's still got
a little bit of developmental to go.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah. Number twenty nine the Washington football team also known
as the Washington Commanders, who again are a bit weird.
I do think they would like to go edge rusher here,
but I just feel like if I'm drafting an edge rusher,
I'm probably reaching at this point. I think that, so
I think they actually this is kind of crazy, sounds crazy,
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but I think they actually feel fine about their cornerback situation.
I think they're banking on Lattimore to improve, and then
you just have like Mike Sanderstril, Jonathan Jones, Noah Igbinogny
like I don't know if that's a I mean, Santi
still's good, but I don't know if i'd feel great
about this room. And what if Latimore doesn't get better. Listen,
if everyone steps up and they don't need a corner, fine,
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but there's a corner I still like. I like Maxwell
Harrison a lot, and he's available, and let's just do
this and if everyone and if a lot more goes
back to being great, then we'll find we'll find room
for him. The secondary is about depth, having the next
Being too deep at corner is a great situation to have.
Look at Philadelphia last year, which is kind of what
happened to them. That's the pick I would make.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, uh, you know, I'm a little bit lower on Harrison,
but I understand the the appeal. I think he's got,
you know, a great physicality to him, and he forces
a lot of incompletions. But you know, I do think
he has a little bit of the penalty thing to him,
and I think that's something that's going to have to
be adjusted at the next level. But maybe he coach
that out of him and you know, help him get
better in those spots. So I definitely don't hate it.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, thirty the Buffalo Bills, where are you going? All right?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
All right, So I'm going a little deep on my
board here. Okay, he is someone I have or deep
on the consensus board. I think I have him much
much higher than the consensus for sure. But he's a
player I really like and I think he has a
chance to be pretty special. I'm going Darian Porter, the
corner from Iowa State. Very unique player, older prospect. He
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is twenty four, so that's a bit of a red flag,
especially when he didn't start until twenty twenty four. But
former wide receiver, former special team or track athlete. He's
got incredible speed, incredible explosiveness, plus ninety fifth percentile measurables
with heightened arm length. I think he's a really interesting
talent who could be very good. He's got the ball
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scales of a receiver. He's got the speed, he's got
the length. I could think he could be a sleeper
in this draft. And he's someone I have firmly at
the top of the second round. So I'm reaching a
little bit. But I want to add some defensive talent here,
and I'm just lower on guys like Skeleton Stewart than others,
and I don't want to take him in that spot,
so I'm going to go and get the corner that
I think could have a high upset play.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah. Well, he's such an interesting player. He reminds me
almost like Jordan Mylotta when that was selected right where
it's like, this is the guy who he has a
lot like four hundred snaps at corner in his career,
but like he's also you know, uh trying to remember
his uh I'll look up as measurable. Yeah, he's what
like six' four and runs a four to Three like
that's like. Ridiculous so it's like if you can get,
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him if you can get him sort of figure out the,
position there could be an elite level player. Here just
the question is like is that going to? Happen? Uh, so,
YEAH i think for the For bills, FANS i think
they would rather have a corner who they can like, Trust,
LIKE i think they'd rather have A Trey amos who's
just like someone should be good right. Away but, like but,
yeah but this is definitely if it hits something that
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could really work.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Out, Yeah and obviously we were a little bit higher On,
amos so he goes higher in this. Draft and it's
another one WHERE i don't love like the fit for
a lot of these. Players you, know they don't need
a guy Like, lovelin you, KNOW i don't think they're
not they don't need a guy Like. Hampton who are
the next two guys on my? Board you, know maybe
they could Go Josh cornolly and try and build some
depth on this offensive line or go go into you,
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know it's JUST i think they need a defensive, player
and there's just not a lot of defensive PLAYERS i
love in this. Spot so it's Between porter And Benjamin
morrison for.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Me, yeah it makes. Sense number thirty one the team
that beat The bills in the conference, championship The Kansas City,
chiefs who, Again i'm Just i'm they're a team that
would not love how this all broke broke, down. Right
they they are definitely disappointed in this situation with the
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offensive lineman not really falling to. THEM i Think i'm
just gonna go with With Derek, hartmon really good pass
rushing interior defensive, lineman a guy who again don't find
playing time For they did lose a you, know a
defensive lineman out an edge, rusher but still they're snaps
in a different. Place so, yeah again not the biggest
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position of. Need but also having a good pass rusher
next To Chris jones could be very.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Fun, YEAH i don't hate it at. ALL i think
it's a nice. Pick it could be very. Fun, indeed
did you think About Connor lee and this spot or
do you not have him high?
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Enough he's just not high enough for.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Me. Yeah and then and obviously you're a little bit
lower on A mari And HAMPTON i think than, Others
so that wasn't a consideration for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
YOU i, mean The chiefs are. NOT i guess they
didn't go. Ceh but like, no like that doesn't make
any that doesn't make any. Sense Like Clyde, edwards you,
layer at LEAST i think they thought he was gonna
be also like a like A christian McCaffrey type who
could pass catch LIKE i Think hampton is a team
that the right team to draft him would be like
The Denver, broncos a team that is like, this you,
know we're gonna have A you're gonna build off the.
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Run The chiefs are, Smart they're, like, no we're just
gonna Sign Kareem hunt off the street and we'll be. Fine.
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
YEAH i think that's completely. Fair so, YEAH i think
it is a. INTEREST i definitely don't hate the pick
BECAUSE i was gonna pick him, next so, yeah it works.
Out i'm just you, know picking your brain a little
bit about the thought process, here how you feel about
those other. Prospects those guys are fringe first rounders for,
Me but, YEAH i don't hate it at. All there's
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two guys that still like for this next, pick so
we'll see how it. Goes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah interesting how this is all broken down and he's
Like Colson lovelin is still on the, board Or Marion,
hampton as you, mentioned still on the. Board Nick. Scorington
you Know Shamar, stewart who some people would, have The Philodelphia,
eagles who are known for being grantedt Drafting. Kyle what
would you, do not what you think they will? Do
what would you do if you. Were.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Now, yeah interesting spot here for The eagles BECAUSE i
still have a few GUYS i have first round grades,
on you, know rattling off a few GUYS i have
first round grades. On they obviously don't need A Marin.
Hampton they have a guy Named Saquon barkley who's pretty.
Good they don't necessarily need Shot Josh, cornelly ALTHOUGH i
wouldn't hate them adding another offensive lineman just for death.
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Purposes they have some older guys on that offensive. Line
he is a GUY i still like towards the back
half of the first, Round SO i take those guys
off the. Board my next, guys as far as you
know first round grades go Are Xavier watchs' safety at
a noted. DAME i don't necessarily need, him and then
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the other two THAT i still have first round grades,
On Mikhel williams And Colson. Loveland this team has had
a lot of success Drafting georgia, players And Mickel, williams you,
know fills A i think more obvious need for me
for this, team just because like they Lost Josh wett
And Milton, williams which is WHY i was going to
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Take harmon in this. Spot if he felt. Me but,
YEAH i Think williams is the GUY i really like
in this draft as an edge, guy SO i DON'T
i wouldn't hate that. Idea, HOWEVER i think this is
still a team, that while they have some, needs is
always about drafting the best players they can find available
and figuring out from. There and the best PLAYER i
have left on the board, still who you know fell
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because of the positional need for a lot of these
teams Is Colson, loveland WHO i think could have could
should possibly go as high as twenty two to The.
CHARGERS i just like burden a lot falling into that.
Spot so give Me loveland in this spot and say
we'll just figure it out from there BECAUSE i think
he's the next best. PROSPECT i like.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
It it's, again it's it's it's something that The eagles
would definitely, be, uh you, know considering now, obviously as
we all, know they do not need a tight. End
they Have Dallas. Goddard but, again you, can you can
have multiple tight end. Sets that's something you're allowed to. Do,
uh just looking at. It last, Year Grant, karta the
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backup tight, end had eight hundred and eighty snaps last,
year so like that's and, again part that was Because
goddard was banged up for a, bit and part of
that look because they went to the Super, bowl so
they played uh you know when they were two, seeds
so they played four extra. Games but, still you're gonna
get snaps out of out Of. Loveland you can make it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Work, Yeah, yeah you're gonna get snaps out of them for.
Sure and you, know it gives you some insurance Because
goddard has dealt with some. Injuries you, know you could
go in a different you, know if you need to
make a trade there to cut some, costs you could
make that trade. Too but, YEAH i think there's a
few different options. There and LIKE i, SAID i think
this team is historically done very well drafting the last
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few years because they just, say let's just get best
players and figure it. Out AND i think he is
the next best, player ALTHOUGH i wouldn't Hate williams in
this spot.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Either, Yeah, kyle that is our mock. DRAFT i think
it'll probably go a little bit different tomorrow. Night, YEAH
i feel pretty confident about the first two. PICKS i
think so, YEAH i think first, THREE i feel LIKE
i there's a chance things can get weird at, three
BUT i feel like IT'S i feel pretty good about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Those if you were to bet on three of our
picks being right after the first three, picks which three
picks would you bet?
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
On, well the first TWO i jumped to are both
five and, Six Mason graham to The jaguars And genty
to The, raiders although that's not. Guaranteed genty could go.
Fifth i'm trying to think what's the next one THAT
i would. Go maybe Maybe ted McMillan to The, panthers
just because that feels like there's a good chance that.
Happens i'm not saying it, guaranteed, will BUT i THINK
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i think those would probably be my.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Three, YEAH i think that's. FAIR i Think Mike green
is an interesting one of the. FOULS i think if
he falls that, far it's, happening you. KNOW i think
that could be an interesting, one you. Know Tyler warren
is another one where if he falls to, FOURTEEN i
think it should be a slam. Dunk The Cold state
game mm. Hm SO i think those are a few
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interesting ones for, Sure but beyond, that, LIKE i think
The cardinals would also be thrilled If Will johnson's, there so,
LIKE i think that's another slam dump for. Me but, yeah, five,
six and then beyond, that we'll.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
See, Yeah michael, says how pumped are you for this
year's draft versus previous. Years i'm. EXCITED i THINK i
Think i'm a little bit uh, WELL i Think i'm
a little bit just worn out Because i'm planning a
wedding and also doing all the draft. Stuff So i'm
excited for it to be over for just for time.
Purposes i'm also a little bit just, LIKE i feel
like the first handful of picks are kind of gonna
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go either like one or one of two, ways which
could be a bit of a bummer if that's how it.
Goes BUT i still think there's a lot of a
lot of injury. Here the draft's always, Fun, yeah it
is always.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
FUN i you, know we talked. ABOUT i think the
first three picks seem like they're pretty solid spots right. Now,
HOWEVER i think with the interesting thing with this, draft
we're not gonna have The Michael pennix like whoa moment
of this draft, Necessarily BUT i think there's gonna be
a lot of variants as far as draft boards. Go you,
KNOW i think there's gonna be teams who Have Kelvin
banks in their top, ten and there's gonna be teams
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who don't Have Kevin banks in their top. TWENTY i
think there's gonna be people who Have Jihad campbell in
their top fifteen and people who don't have him in
the first. Round stuff like. That you, know same thing
with a guy Like Jalen walker and going up and
down the. BOARD i think there are, guys you, know
LIKE i, SAID i was listening TO i Think Peter
schrager the other day saying That Gray zabel could go
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in the top twenty of people's people's. Drafts so you,
know there's a lot of interesting elements to that where you,
know where there's not a lot of blue, chip five
star prospects that feels like in the, DRAFT i think
there is a lot of opportunity for variance and interesting,
picks even though there's not gonna be A Michael pennock,
SITUATION i think.
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Well and even Like Shoulder, sanders he legitimately there's there's an.
Out there's a world where he goes top, three and
there's a world where he doesn't get drafted in the first.
Round Like i've never seen something like that happen. BEFORE
i guess typically Will levis was supposed to go like
top five and, foul but no one thought he was
gonna fall out in the first round night before to
draft Like, sanders that's legitimately a people are predicting, that
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and people are predicting him to go top.
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Three CAN i? OVERTAKE i think If sanders goes in
the top, fifteen it's an owner.
Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Meddling that's the not.
Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
IMPOSSIBLE i, think you, KNOW i think there's a variance
on boards because scouts are like, different you, know different
opinions on different. PLAYERS i think a lot of scouts
have the same opinion On Shdeur. Sanders it sounds LIKE
i think the public perception Of Shador sanders is what's skewing.
This and OBVIOUSLY i think he is fun to, watch
SO i think that is the aspect that's skewing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
It, YEAH i, mean it's it's it's it's it's possible
that would be if there is A Michael panick's, moment
it's good to be involved In. SANDERS i, think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
At this, Point i'm pretty. Surprised i'd be pretty surprised
if The giants took him. Three if they traded out of,
It i'd be less, surprised But i'd be pretty surprised
if he goes third.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Overall, kyle if, someone if a billionaire came to you
who listened to the show and, Says i'm gonna give
you a million, dollars but you have to give one
pick from this mock draft that definitely will not happen
in the real, draft has no least about a chance of.
Happening you get the million dollars as long as that
pick does not. Happen which one of these picks are you?
Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Taking Probably membo to The, Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Honestly, YEAH i guess that'd PROBABLY.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Wt there's so much reporting on that at this, Point
LIKE i think it. Is, UH i feel pretty good
That Will campbell is gonna go, there even THOUGH i
like memboo. More you, KNOW i think you could talk
me into IF i were to bet on anything, Else
like let's, SEE.
Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
I Think starks to The bears feels like an. Option, yeah,
yeah the love one two To.
Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Eagles, yeah, yeah that's fair because he'd go higher for, sure.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Right because he either would go higher or To eagles
wouldn't take him it's like that one could go either.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Way, yeah SO i think there's a few different ones
there that could be talked into, it but, YEAH i
think those are the Ones i'd probably look at the.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Most, yeah, Well, kyle that is our. Show let me
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Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Over we don't have to talk about it at. All
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Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah, yeah so that's that's. Interesting. Yeah, again thank you
everybody for watching or listening cow any file. Thoughts you're
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Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Of, Here, no let's get out of, here you, know
end of the, day and everybody enjoy your.
Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Week OH i GUESS i should. Mention, TOMORROW i will
be making videos for every first round. PICK i also
should have winners and losers and a round two mock
draft after the first, round so be on the lookout
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Listening we do appreciate. It until next, time have a good, one,
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peace
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the On
the Sideline podcast with Jackson and Kyle. I am Jackson
and I'm joined here as always by the man who
is telling every NFL team he knows that Shitar Sanders
is worth a top three pick. Kyle. Kyle, how are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Uh? Do it pretty good? I would love a trade
up in that spot. Some would to take them. So
we'll see how it goes. Obviously we'll find out tomorrow.
But uh, you know, doing pretty good. A little uh,
a little nervous for my patriots there. We'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, we will see how it goes. Kyle. Uh, this
is usually our best, uh the show. It does the
best in the off season. So just to throw everybody
off and try to you know, messing stop a little,
we decided to do it now. We're early this time,
just trying to make sure we can you know, we
don't want things to get to do too well here.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta keep everyone on their toes and uh,
you know, obviously not the best time for scheduling conflicts,
but we do what we can and yeah, we're ready
to get rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yes, Kyle, this starts sixth sixth time now we have
done a mock draft. Or we started in twenty twenty,
so it's been five years now of doing this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean we've we've this show has some years
behind it. Now. We have some dedicated fans, we have
some uh you know, still new fans rolling in and uh,
look at where we are now. Now we're we can't
get a single pick wrong. Now that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, we nail it every year, Kyle. What we do
here on this show is there's a lot of predictive
mock drafts. That is not what we do. We do
a mock draft where we are going to pick what
we would do if we were in the GM chair.
We're gonna go back and forth. I'm gonna do the odds.
You were going to do the events. That way, we'll
each pick our favorite teams. Shall we just jump in?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, let's dive right in. So, yeah, like you said,
you were doing the odd team. So you are starting
this draft and yeah, as right now you are on
the clock with the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, yes, and I have the for anyone who's listening
to audio only wise, we have the video up on
the YouTube feed. If there's any issues with the video feed,
let me know in the chat and we'll try to
fix those. Sometimes things get wonky, but ultimately, yeah, again,
it's what I would do. Everyone knows cam Ward is
gonna go first overall, and I agree with everyone. I
think that Camboard should go first overall. I think he's
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very good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, he is very very good. Could you make a
debate on like, is he he's not the best. He
wouldn't have been the number one pick last year. He
may not have been a top three quarterback last year.
I still think he's a very very good quarterback prospect.
He may not be the number one consensus prospect in
this draft, but we all all know that quarterback plays
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the premium position, and we don't have a quarterback. He
have the number one pick. I think you have to
take advantage of that opportunity. And yeah, I think that
even beyond all that, I think he's a top ten
prospect in this draft. I think he has a ton
of talent. The ability to buy time, make plays, the mobility,
the arm, all of it comes together into a very
nice package. I think he has a lot going for him.
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And you know, this is a new era for the
Tennessee Titans. So we'll see it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah. Yeah, And we have been forever on and I
think we all kind of know our cam Ward two
Titans takes Kyle, Why don't you go with number two?
This is definitely something where Okay, we know that the
Browns will have a decision to make. You have a
decision to make. Here, are you gonna go? Shitters? Help
set yourself up for a pick four?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah? Do this all to help myself at the Patriots spot. No,
I have to be honest to all thirty two teams
or all the teams at least that I pick. And Yeah,
to me, this is a no brainer. It could be.
It could be a debate for other people. For me,
it's not a debate. This has to be Travis Hunter.
I think he is the best prospect in this draft.
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I think him going to number two obviously is something
that's good for Cleveland. And look, they could use help
a receiver, they could use help a defensive back, and
they have this all packaged into one. He's a very
very unique player and I think he's going to be
a slam dunk in the NFL. Can he play both
positions in the NFL? I don't know. I don't see
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why not for right now. But at the same time,
I still think you're getting a pretty good player at
two positions, and maybe he plays one in the NFL,
and that's still something that I think is going to
work out.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, it just feels like it's a I think the
built in fail safe of if he doesn't work out
at whatever position you want to draft to Matt, he
can you know, potentially work out a different position just
feels like it makes him so much more valuable, right
because you never know what prospects, the great prospects fail
all the time. At least now you're essentially like doubling
getting twice the odds of getting a great player basically.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, especially in a draft with so much unknown too.
I mean it's been talked about a lot. This is
not the best draft we've seen. I think there's two
guys that I feel like, you know, what, are they
the perfect prospects? No, But at the same time, there
are two guys in this draft that I feel comfortable,
that I feel very strongly about are going to be
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good players no matter what. Obviously, like you said, nothing
in life and guaranteed, especially in the NFL. Draft. But
there's two guys that I feel very very good about
that are going to be good in the NFL. And
Travis Hunter is one of those guys. I think he
could be an all pro.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, well, let's get to the other guy. Kyle picked
number three, the New York Giants, who I think there
is a world where there is a trade here in
this situation, I figure we probably won't do trades unless
I mean, we'll leave the door open in case something happens.
But I just think that, listen, I like came on.
Thibodeau is a fine player. He's still, you know, under
relatively cheap control. He was a high draft pick, so
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it's not that cheap, but relatively cheap control for a
couple of years. But just he hasn't been good enough
to get you to not take Abdull Carter one. He
is the next best prospect available, and there isn't another
great one here. I think just I'm gonna draft Abdul
Carter and figure it out if I'm the Giants, So again,
what I would do, That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think that's one hundred percent fair and probably what
I would do too. He feels really, really like a
really strong player. There's obviously some injury concerns, but they
seem pretty minor overall, and you're like, yeah, I mean
the the explosiveness, the speed, the strength, all this off
the edge. I mean, he looks like a complete package,
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is an ed rusher, and you have to be excited
about for the Giants. You know, it's okay to load
up on strengths when this prospect is this good. And
I wouldn't really worry about need when you're that bad.
You know, focus on getting good talent in the building.
And he is, without a doubt, one of the better
talents in this draft. So I think getting a guy
like Carter makes a lot of sense here. I do
think a trade is on the table as well, especially
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if someone blows them away with a trade package. But
at the very least, you're getting a good player here
if you just hold on and make this pick.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, there are bigger needs, but also I mean, you know,
maybe the trade to Keveon Thibbadau after this, Like there's
ways that there's ways to do things.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you know, there's multiple ways, honestly, and honestly, like,
I don't even think it's a bad thing to say like, Hey,
if Tibotaum makes the leap, plus you have Abdul Carter
plus you you know, plus you have Dexter Lawrence in
the middle. Sometimes it's a good thing to just build
a strength and say we're we are going to dominate
the defensive line. That's not a bad thing either. It
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would help your defensive back even too. Defensive backs even
too if you did that. So I don't think there
is anything wrong with it at all.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, if Thibodeau ends up taking the leap and is
now also an elite player, having three great edge rushers
like that, that's not a terrible world to be in.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
No teams would be terrified to play you. At the
very least, you're annoying to play against.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, as opposed to being annoying to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, which is what the Giants are right now.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yes, Kyle, here we go. I think the mock draft
really starts here. You're newing the Patriots. Many people are speculating, well,
will Campbell be to pick here? But this is not
what you think is gonna happen. This is what you
would do. Yeah, Patriots say we're gonna have a fan
decide number fourth overall.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Pick what would you do they're calling me in this conciliary. Yeah,
so if this is how it goes, I love the
idea of a trade. If a trades on the table,
whether someone wants to trade up for Shud or Sanders,
whether someone wants to trade up for Ashton Janet. I
think both of those are on the table at this point.
(08:57):
I would love the idea of a trade back if
this is how went and they missed out on Travis
Hunter and Abdul Carter for sure. However, we're not doing
trades in this one, which is fine. I don't I
wasn't expecting to do trades with their not being trades
on the table. I have to look at the whole
package here. You know, I have armand membu over Will Campbell.
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As far as the prospect goes, I think if I
went offensive tackle, that's what I would prefer. Although I
think Will Campbell could be a very good guard in
the NFL or tackle, so there is that position of versatility,
and I think he has a ton of upside still
despite some you know, up and down tape play as
far as his game goes. And the other one I
would consider, honestly is Jint at four just taking him, cause, look,
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is it conventional for a team like the Patriots to
take a running back but the fourth pick. No, But
this team just needs good players, and they haven't had
good players or players that are strict honestly, frankly fun
to watch in a long long time. It feels like
now at least five years, and he would instantly become
the most interesting player to watch on the team. And
(10:10):
I think that's something that would have to take a
look at and seriously consider. But I want to build
this front. I want to build this franchise from the
line of scrimmage. I want to set the trenches. So
I'm going to take Membu with the pick.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Okay, all right, Well, I don't hate it at all.
I think that you know, I'm also not as high
on Will Campbell, so I agree with not going that route. Yeah,
I mean, ultimately, again, you look at the Patriots, they're
just their needs on pff here, it's running back, wide receiver,
offensive line, Kyle, that's basically the higher offense.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, they need a lot of offensive film. So yeah,
you know, honestly, like, because it seems like Campbell is
going to be the guy if this happens, If they
keep the pick, and I'm not against Will Campbell, like
I would be okay with the pick if it happened,
and honestly, I kind of just have to accept it
at this point. Based on the reporting, I would be
okay with Will Will Campbell at this spot. I'd be
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okay with Memble with this spot. I would even be
okay with Genc at this spot. But I do think
this is an opportunity to trade back here and try
and catch a team desperate and maybe add some more
assets down the line as well, or just later in
this draft. So I do think they have a few
options here to look at. But if they just stated
this one, this would be my preferred pick, although I'd
be okay with any of those three.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
But I don't know. Is their team really going to
trade up to four. I think it would probably for Gendi, right,
that would probably be the Probably the Bear is coming
up to four.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's my guess. Yeah, I mean there is talk of
I guess Chicago potentially dangling even their second round pick
to move up to four. That I think that would
be an interesting one. I mean, even if you know
the Raiders seem to be bad in their eyelashes, at
gent two. If they're worried about someone coming up and
jumping them for them him, maybe they decide to move
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up to four or something like that. I think there's
a few options on the table there.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, number five, so there's bend this push for Is
Ashton jan T gonna go to the Jaguars? Now? Whereas
that was kind of speculated early on, I didn't seem
like it's gonna go that way. Now it seems almost
like fifty to fifty that'll eat Ason Graham or Janet again,
is what I would do. Uh. I think I would
just go Mason Graham here. I think he is the
(12:28):
best player available. He fills in need. I you know,
I get it. There's other good players on the board
that I do like, but I just think Graham is
the other than tackle. He's the only real guy I'd
be willing to uh go a five yere and the
Jaguars have young tackles they want to develop, So I
think going Mason Graham makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Absolutely. I agree with it as well. I had this
in my uh you know, I did a little practice
mock draft earlier, so I had I had him as well.
In this spot. There seems to be like this pushback
on Mason Graham, like he's too short and stout, which, like,
I mean, I guess he's a little smaller. But at
the same time, like did we just not watch him
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push offensive linemen in the Big ten around for three
years or whatever? It is, Like this guy's a workhorse.
I mean, I really like him. I think he's you know,
I think we we obsessed over trait sometimes when it
sometimes you just need a good football player first, and
I think Mason Graham's a very good football player. And
I think that's going to go a long way to
the Jaguars, where, yes, this isn't their conventional thing, like
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you said that, this is a team that historically is
loaded up on athletes. They've changed their GM. This is
a new strategy and you know what, I just want
to get a good football player in the building who's
gonna you know, set the tone.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah. Oh man, I mean, what would what would Balky
do in this? He goes to Ashton gen D right?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh? Would he? I mean I don't know, he could
go with like Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh yeah, that would be that would be a move. Yeah,
what am I thinking? Yes, Samar Stewart that's that's he'd
race that card in.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Actually, you know who he would do is what is
his name? The Georgia Linebo n Walker. Yeah, j definitely
take care.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, Yeah, there's some good, there's some good. Chun Balpy.
He's gotta be upset right now.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That he's not making this pick. He's not looking at
all the athletes crunching the tape.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I think so, Kyle, number six, This is an
important one for this podcast. You got to make sure
you do Raiders Nations proud.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Here, Kyle, Raiders Nation. Look, there's been a lot of
gen Z talk at this spot, and like, I don't
hate it, I really don't. I think they have a
few other things they could look at. I really like
the idea of Walter Nolan on this team. I like
Ted McMillan on this team as potential play too. But
like I said, I think there's a couple of guys
that I feel pretty confident are gonna be very good
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in the NFL, and I think Genet is one of
those guys in this draft specifically. So is it unconventional
to take a running back this how Yes, But at
the same time, I just don't think there's a lot
of blue chip prospects. I think there's only a few
guys that would have in that spot, and so I'm
gonna take a blue chip prospect and take Gen t here.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay, Yeah, I mean it's it's still a little early
for me, even with as much as I like gend
as a prospect just because of a positional value. But like,
I don't hate the idea at all. You want to
be good right now. That's kind of a Raiders thought
is they're trying to run before they're trying to walk
before they can run. Here, it's not the worst idea
in the world to get a guy who should help
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you be better this year.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, And you know, there's just there's just a few
too many like questions for me for the rest of
these guys in this draft. You know, Will Campbell's not
really a priority for them. They have a pretty decent
offensive line and obviously Colton Miller is a mainstay at
that left tackle spot for them. You know, like I said,
I do. I thought for a long time about Walter
Nolan in this spot, and that's probably the would have
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been my next selection. But at the same time, I
just think given a guy like mc Millan. I have
too many question marks in this spot, and that's why
eventually I have to go with the guy that I
feel like right away could step in and help my
my offense. You know, I'm going into next season with
Gino Smith, with Ashton gent. I got a really nice
quarterback running back Combo, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. No, it makes sense. So for the Jets, most
people are expecting them to go from odd Membo. Of course, Kyle,
you you right into that parade by selecting him earlier
for the Jets at pick seven. I think I am
still gonna go. I think I'm still gonna go tackle
here and get my number one tackle in this class,
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who is already at twenty two for PFF. But I'm
gonna go Covien Banks Junior, which is a Again, there's
a bit of a weird thing where now you have
essentially two left tackles right or you have a lou
Fashan who you have to make sure that or No,
I'm trying to remember is Alufa Shanhu a left tackle
or right tackle because I played both last year. But
either way, I'm dropping all Banks and we' and we'll
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figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I don't think it's a bad idea to figure
it out that way. You just still need some offensive
line help. I don't have the numbers in front of me,
but I remember we talked about it when we regraded
our first round from the first round from last year.
But Whenolo Fashanu did play left tackle last year, he
was very, very good. He just didn't play it a
lot because they had Tyrone Smith and they moved him
all around the offensive line, and he really struggled when
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he moved positions. But I'm still willing to say, you know,
left tackle, right tackle, we'll figure it out with these two.
And look the tape on Kelvin Banks. I think it's
a little inconsistent. But at the same time, there are
moments where he absolutely dominated some of the best players
in the game, and you could see that dominant force
with him. So I think it is a I think
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it's a good pick, and I think he's a I
think he's a really high upside prospect for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And someone helps us out in the chat by saying,
for a Sean was not your left tackle, but played
right tackle for three games when Morgan Moses went down.
That's right, Yeah, that's what I thought, and that I
doubted myself. But yes, so again there is that risk
factor bear. But ultimately, again Banks is the next best
player on my board. So that's why I'm going with that.
I'm assuming not everyone would do the same Kyle. Pick
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number eight is another interesting one with the Panthers. A
lot of ways they could go about this. A lot
of people are speculating Jaylen Walker here. What do you
think they should do?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Walker. I have him
a little lower on my board. You know, I took
a look at Johnny Brown Baron here. Excuse excuse me,
not Brown, Johnny Barron here, the defensive back. I think
this team could use a lot of defensive help as
it is. But that being said, I think my first
priority above all else is to try and put Bryce
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On in the best position to be successful next season.
And see what I have at the quarterbacks. The quarterback
is the most important investment in this team. And you
know what, if I stink on defense next year, I
don't really care. Like if Bryce Young good next season,
that's the biggest priority. I don't care if I win
five games next year as long as Bryce On plays well,
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so I want to get Teed McMillan here. I want
to get him a number one receiver potential option. And
so yeah, I'm gonna take the receiver and say, I
need to add talent to this offense. And you know,
I still have a lot of holes on defense to
figure out, but I just I need to fit. I
need to see this out as much as I can
before I worry about fixing the defense because this team's
still a long way away. But Bryce Young can make
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that go a lot faster.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's the correct move,
and I think that this is this feels like it
feels like it's Jalen Walker or Teed McMillan. And I
just can't imagine Panthers fans are sitting here and saying,
please give us the developmental you know, guy who don't
even know whose position is going to be playing on defense.
Like I have to imagine Panthers fans are thing, please
just give me the number one receiver, the guy who's
getting compared to Drake London, to Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, yeah, honestly, Uh yeah, I mean like, look, yeah,
I do think best case scenario, I think he is
a Mike Evans level player. You know, I don't think
the tape for Jalen Walker is as bad as it's like.
You know, some of the naysayers say, I think there
is some good stuff there, But at the same time,
he is developmental, he's still young, he's still played multiple
positions in college, and he's got to kind of figure
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out what he's gonna do at that spot. So it
is a risk. It's still a big risk at this spot.
It's still a top ten pick, even if you consider
this not a strong draft. I see the vision for
where Jalen Walker could be a really good player, and
I but like, I just want a guy who I
feel like I can throw the ball to a few
times and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, Michael with a super chat saying I'll question what
I'm doing with my life if it's Walker. Yeah, and Michael,
I didn't even make fun of the Panthers in this segment.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah. Yeah, the good thing you didn't do the pick
you probably would have given him Jail Walker. Yeah, I
didn't even have him on your board, but it's fine, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. Now now I'm picking a Saints, I think I
should give him like a pond here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Right, Yeah, that's probably the right move.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now, Okay, I will still uh for the Saints fans
watching or listening, I will still play this out. I
was thinking about what the exact best move is. I
do you think they're in a bit of a weird,
weird spot. It's still too early for the quarterback stuff
for me. I just I don't love either of these
quarterbacks enough to really really go there. One thought I'm
(21:15):
having is, so I really like James Pierce Junior. For
a lot of people, that's early. I don't know if
it's that early for me. Uh. John Campbell is also
player really like now he's you know, they don't necessarily
need a linebacker right this moment, but also tomorrow. Davis
is thirty six. Do you want to let him kind
of learn for a year and then and then play.
(21:37):
I think I'm kind of in between in between those
two picks. So I think I'm just gonna go with
I mean, either way, you're kind of getting a guy
who's gonna maybe start on the bench, but the hopefully
get some playing time. I you know, someone says, hands down,
the best move is Will Campbell, but I'm not that
crazy about Will Campbell's what I would do. So I
think I'm just gonna go. If you know it's what
(21:58):
we would do, I know, well i'll go. I'll go.
If too high Campbell here, I think that's that's the move.
Let him learn behind Tomorrio Davis for a year, He'll
get some playing time, and then maybe next year you
let him be a starter.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, I don't hate it. I probably would have gone
defensive line. You know, I think this is a good
spot for James Pierce. Honestly, he is also my number
two ed rusher in this class. It's something I wouldn't
have hated it at all. But you know, I think
conventional wisdom would say it's a risk. You know, the
consensus mock would say it's a much more of a risk.
So it would be an interesting back and forth if
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they debated that. But you know, I do think that
they could still add some defensive help, even though there's
not like a clear cut offensive option for me here.
But you know, I think that was an option I
would have considered Will Campbell here in this spot if
he felt this far as well. But I'm a little
higher on him than you, and so yeah, I think
those are the interesting ones, and you know, I think
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that's a very justifiable pick.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Still, yeah, yeah, maybe I should have gone a Pierce.
I don't know. I just like I can't. I can't
reach that much. People will get mad at me.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's fair. Yeah, I mean, look, I get it, so
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
But honestly, like, if you're in between two picks, and
there's one pick that everyone's saying, oh yeah, that'll be
a smart pick, and I one pick that everyone's saying
that would be a massive reach, you should just go
with the one. Like the consensus does tend to be
correct because obviously more people, uh you know, you know,
more people that agree or something tend to be right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I it's fair.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
No, I agree, And it screws over to the Buccaneers,
but I'm sure the Saints they want to do as well.
So you have that going on. Kyle number ten, the
Chicago Bears. Where are they going?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Weird spot for the Bears here, I think, because you know,
I think that they probably would have gone for a guy.
I think they wanted one of these offensive guys. Obviously
they want Genet. It's not it's not really a secret
at this point. So missing out on. That means they
probably have to go in a different direction. There's a
few different spots I feel like I could look at
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as far as the defense goes. You know, they they
could go for someone like Walter Nolan, but I kind
of like Rvon Dexter and Grady Jarrett unless they want
him to learn behind Jarrett for a year. I could
go with James Pierce, who was just you know, passed
in our last pick. I think that's something that could
work too, to pair him with Montes Sweat. But I'm
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gonna go secondary actually, and I know they got Brisker
and they got Kevin Byerd, but I'm also gonna add
Malachi Starks to this group, and I want the number
one safety on the board. I think he's a very
very good athlete. I think he's a very very good safety,
and I think he can come in right away and
help this team out.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow. I think it's a bit of a bit of
a surprise here, Kyle. I think he's you know, a
bit again, it's what we would do, So we're gonna
that's that's how That's how this whole show is designed
to work. It's a bit a bit early twenty first
on the consensus big board. Also, I don't know if
people are looking at this as a massive need given
who they currently have under roster. So I'm a bit surprised.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I mean, they have some options here, but like, I
don't know, I don't think defensive line like that. I
think they could have added another edge rusher. And it's
the same thing, like, is this still a bit of
a reach for a guy like Pierce or Mike Green?
I still think it's a bit of a reach for
that compared to someone like Starks. And like, yeah, I
think that it's okay to load up on a strength
here and get the best player available. I really like
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him adding to this safety room because like, look, Kevin
Bayern's not getting any younger, and you know, he's had
some up and down years as he's aged. Like I
think that this is a this is a spot he
could come in and help out.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think what it just comes down
to is how much do you value the player? Right? Like,
I think it's totally fine even if it's not a
pressing need. You don't have to always just draft for
what your biggest need is. You can just draft the
player you like. I think for me. I think it's
just players I like better still on the board.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's fair. Yeah, if you like other players more then
that's fine. I think Starks is going to be very
good player though.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah. Yeah, well we'll see how it goes. Number eleven
on the board here again, I think I should say
I think Starks would be very good player for them.
I think it would would would fit in everything. Number
eleven we can move along the San Francisco forty nine ers.
I think the two things I'm looking at here are, first,
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do I want to go with James Pearce just again
a player that we both really like, But is this
the perfect fit fit? I mean, I think they could
definitely use someone like him. I think the other thing is, again,
with just how much people like will Campbell, is it
worth it just to say, you know what, Okay, is
this the time to make a move like that because
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they could use an offensive lineman. It's it's again, I
think it's just probably a move I'm gonna make. I'm
just gonna go full Campbell here.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, and I think it's fair. Look, I know they
have Trent Williams obviously, but you know, you can go
in a lot of different directions with this one because
you know him and Dominic Pooney they got last season
or both very good players. But you could add Will
Campbell to that offensive line, maybe playing left guard until
you know, obviously you move on from you know, Trent
Rich Trent Williams as he gets older. So yeah, I
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think it's a completely justifiable one and I think it
could be very good.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I agree Kyle Number twelve, Dallas Cowboys, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
All right? So the Cowboys I think have a few
holes on their roster they have to figure out. I'm
sure they were like crossing their fingers and all that
hoping that at that point Will Campbell may go to them,
because I think that they could use another offensive lineman
as well, and he probably would have plugged in right
away at left tackle. So yeah, I think that they
have a few options as well still that they can attack.
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You know, do I go for my next receiver on
the board, which would be Luthor Burden and say, I
want to add Luthor Burden to this offense to compliment
Ceedee Lamb. But I'm actually gonna go for the edge
rusher spot, and I'm I'm gonna pair Micah Parsons with
James Pierce. At this point, I want some help on
that defensive line. You know, I'm not entirely convinced Dante
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Fowler is my guy, and so let's go. Let's go
Pierce to pair with Parsons and load up on the
defensive line a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, there will be some people who disagree, just because
again we are essentially to James Pierce Junior fan club.
You and I both think that this guy is this
is totally worth a pick and anything. I think this
feels like he kind of fell just given how the
board fell for us obviously. Yeah, I would love this pick.
A guy who can also be out there all three downs,
I think really helps compliment Parsons, right who Parsons proved
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a lot in the run defense game, but we all
know you want him as a pass rusher. Having someone
who can kind of do it all just helps complete
that defensive line a little bit more. Yeah. I like
this move.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it's a really nice spot for them.
You know, I still think that they have some holes
on offense they need to address, but you know, I
think this is a very good running back and receiver
class that they can kind of wait on or good
running back class at least, and I think there's few
receivers they could still look at and try and get
some depth there, so you know, I don't think they
need to attack that right away.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah. Pick thirteen the Dolphins, I'm taking Johnny Baron. They need,
they desperately need corners. Now theres the you know, it
just just just feels like a you know, I think
he's the next highest player on my board. He feels
probably your biggest need. Feels like an easy pick for me.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah, this feels like a slam dunk. I like
this pick as well. They need some help in that secondary.
They lost a few players this offseason, so absolutely no
debate for me as well. I'm perfectly fine.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
With that number. Fourteen The Indianapolis Colts. Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They kind of stumble into this one for me, and
I really like to pick for them. I'm gonna go
with Tyler Warren, who is my number one pass catcher
in this draft. Obviously, tight end is a little bit
different than wide receivers, so you know, that's why he
fell below McMillan and a few guys there. But I
think he fits what the Colts need. I think they
definitely need, definitely need a dynamic pass catcher, and I
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think he fits really nicely into this offense and should
help right away. So give me Tyler Warren in this
spot and get the Colts another playmaker.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, someone who you know. I I am a little
lower on Tyler Warren. He's still second highest on my
board currently right now, So like, even if someone's lower
on him, this feels like really good value at fourteen.
It's just a tight end thing. Like there's a lot
of teams that don't need tight ends, you know, so
like that's what sometimes a lot of times, tight ends
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like centers and you know, the positions where you only
really need one guy, sometimes they fall even if they're
good players. So yeah, I think that this would be
a really good, really good pick for them. It seems
like it's a very good chance this is what happens
as well, So yeah, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, I think he's really dynamic and
I'm a big fan of his. He'd be a top
ten easily of my you know, overall board, and getting
him in this spot, I think for a team that
needs a tight end desperately too, I think is a
huge addition, and so yeah, I think this is this
This would be one of this would be one of
my favorite picks of the draft so far.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, and it would be a pick I would definitely
agree with as well. Let's go on to the Atlanta Falcons,
who are at number fifteen on this at this point,
and again it's a bit of a weird spot for me.
I'm trying to figure out exactly where I would go
because one thought I had is Mike Green, who it's
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a bit of a reach on my board. But also
I think they could really use an edge rusher. They
really struggled at that. I think that their secondary has
some maybe younger promising players that can can work. So
I think I'm just gonna go with Mike Green and
we'll see how.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It works out.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I definitely.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean, this was a huge problem for them last year, right,
they tried to make the Matthew Judon trade and fix it.
It didn't quite work out. And yeah, I mean, this
is this is a desperate need. I think for this team.
They do have to replace their center. Not really a
great interior line in draft. Plus centers don't really get
drafted this high. You could talk me into another receiver
to pair next to Drake London. Whether you wanted to
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go Luthor Burden or Matthew Golden. I think that's really
the only debate for me though. Do you want one
of those receivers? Do you want Mike Green? And I
like Green just to hair more than both of those receivers.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And I just I don't know. I just feel like
I know the receiver is listed as a need. I
just I feel like they're okay there, you know, I
just feel like that's not they have much bigger issues.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they definitely need another guy, but
like what they got out of Moony last year and
that kind of thing, I don't think it's like the
top priority for me.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I'd rather get a guy in the third round. Again,
if the right player is avalle, If if pet McMillan
is still available, go for it. But like you know,
I think at this point I'd rather I'd rather stick with.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah. No, I completely agree.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Okay, Kyle. Number sixteen the Arizona Cardinals, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All right? Cardinals for me, still need some defensive help.
I think they desperately need some players in this secondary
that has been very shaky the last few seasons, and yeah,
so he is one of the next guys on my board.
So I'm perfectly fine with it. Let's get Will Johnson
in the building here, guy who's played a lot of
football in college. He's got a lot of experience. I
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think he's a very refined cornerback, and I think he's
gonna come help this team right away.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, absolutely, they need I mean, again, the Cardinals had
a weird thing where you look at their roster and
on paper it looked horrible last year and I ended
up being like solid, but definitely they could use another
at least defensively. It looked horrible and ended up being solid.
Like Will Johnson, this is a you know, again, another
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pick that I could see happening and I think would
be smart.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that there is a
you know, they probably would have liked one of those
ed rushers to fall to them if possible. I mean,
I think that they had a few other options that
they still need to add on defense. I know they
got Josh Sweat, still feels like they could use another
guy on that defensive line, but you know, they still
need help in the secondary too, So I don't have
any issues with this.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah. Well, let's go to the Cincinnati Bengals, who are
next on the list, and again there's some some some
interesting ways you could go about this. I do think like,
is it too early for Derek Carmon, a good pass
rushing interior guy who I think can help out with
this part of music. I'm even considering, like, do you
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go Matthew Golden here? Just you know, I know it's
be insane for them to go with another wide receiver,
but like you know, would be pretty fun. I just
I think you're almost maxing out at a certain point
if you're passing attacks. I probably can't do that. I'm
gonna go with I think I'm gonna go with a
corner here, and I'm gonna go with my next corner
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on my board, Trey Amos, a player who, again is
it early for most people, sure, but it's not early
for me. I think he would fit that scheme. Yes,
they have some young players, but you need depth at
the corner position. To me, he could u he could
play outside corner for the Bengals, So I'm putting him there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, I like him a lot too. This may be
a little bit high for me, just because like, I
still have him as the next corner on the board
for me, but I had him a little bit lower
I think, on my overall board. But at the same time,
I think this is a good pick for the Bengals
who still need help in this secondary. They still need
to add some players to this defense for sure, and yeah,
I think that's definitely a spot where they they could
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address it. And I don't hate it at all.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, I only have two players ahead of Again, I
don't love this draft. I think that there's a lot
a lot of great players in this spot, so I
kind of agree that he's usually like a back und
to the first guy. It's that much of a reach
in this draft to get a back onund to the
first guy with pick seventeen.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I don't hate it at all. So I think
it's a perfectly justifiable pick at this point. But yeah,
I mean, I definitely think it's going to be an
interesting one that's discussed. I think going forward is like,
what do the Bengals do here? Do they reach for
a guy like this? The consensus, But at the same time,
I still think he's a very good prospect.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, And I think this stuff's gonna happen. I think
we're gonna get some reaches in this spot just because
of the same logic I'm going with of like, uh,
you know, there's you know, I'm okay if reaching if
you're not getting that much worse of a player. And
I think that there's just a lot of players who
are kind of bunched up here.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, there really is. I really do think there is too,
So I don't hate it at all.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Okay, Kyle Number eighteen the Seattle Seahawks, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
All right? So there's a few different spots we could
go here. You know, this team desperately needs some offensive
line help. But this isn't a awesome spot for me
for offensive line. I think they would kind of have
to move up to get one of those guys. If anything,
they could go back possibly or just reach for a guy.
As you said, this could happen a lot. You know,
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there is a lot of Gray's Abel talk as far
as the first round prospect goes, and even in this range,
I think that's someone I would that honestly, just because
I think they desperately need the help there. But I'm
gonna take a chance here. I think this team can
afford to take a little bit of a chance on
this defense and try and add a high upside player
who we've talked about a few times. Is he a
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perfect prospect, No, but this athleticism says a lot. And
I think he's at least better on tape than some
of the other high athlete you know, imperfect players. So
I'm gonna take Jalen Walker in this spot.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Okay, Yeah, he's again a player I'm not crazy about,
just because I don't know what to do with him.
I agree, there are impressive things on tape like there
is like he is. It reminds me of the Trayvon
Locker thing of just like, Okay, this is an impressive thing,
and I just don't know what to do with this,
so I'm gonna let someone else figure it out. Like
That's just how I would view it. That's why I
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wouldn't probably gonna draft him in the first round. But ultimately, like, yeah,
I think it's it absolutely like why not do something
like this if you're Seattle won't have a chance to
get a stud player if it works out?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, the best version of this is he got
a pro bowler, right and and there's obviously a lot
of scenarios. I think this could also not work out
for them, But he's got insane potential and you know,
a guy like Mike McDonald, I would be really excited
to add him to you know, he's done a lot
of stuff in Baltimore with some creative and unique players,
obviously Kyle Hamilton in his stint there was a big one,
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and I think he could. I think he's someone that
could you know, be trusted into that Seahawks room with
Mike McDonald and he would find some creative ways to
use him.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, and for again, a draft like this where there's
not really a ton of light like blue chip prospects
like left right, it's mostly a lot of guys like Yeah,
I could maybe see you being like, you know, a starter.
Maybe there's more potential than that, but like that's what
I'm kind of seeing you as, Like I more wouldn't
take a flyer here, so I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, let me take the chance at this spot and
then we'll we'll figure it out from there. For sure.
I think that's kind of where I'm at with the
with the Seahawks in this one. Like I said, I
just think it's a bit of a reach for what
they really need, which is offensive line held.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah. Next up is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers my team,
And there's several ways I could go with this. I mean,
for one thing, you have to look at the Derek
harmon or kind of grant. Uh, you know, duo. Do
you go with one of those guys and just try
and get add another body in that defensive line. Uh,
that's something you could You could certainly consider. Even Colston Lovelin,
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although I don't love how he would pair with Kate Otten.
Feels like they kind of check similar boxes there. But
that's something you can consider. Do you want to go
if you want to go for safety here? To me,
I think I'm kind of reaching on a safety Uh.
If I do that, Kyle, I think I'm just gonna
pick the guy who I think is the best player.
I think I'm gonna pick Matthew Golden. I mean it.
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Do the Buccaneers need a wide receiver? No? There they
have Chris Godwin, Mike Evans. Uh, you know, do you
have other guys that you can can step up? But
I don't know. I just think he's the best player
and I want to just get the best player and eventually,
in theory, Mike Evans or Chris Godwin will get older
and play worse, and then you have a backup plan.
And hey, you have a lot of receivers play, right, Like,
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it's not just one guy out there. You know, Jaylen McMillan. Okay,
now he's the fourth receiver. He's still going to get
significant playing time. Injuries are gonna happen. It's not a
position I'm gunning for as a Bay fan. But if
he's available and this is the way the board's shake
him down, okay, let's just take him.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, Like, I don't hate the pick at all, obviously,
like you said, it's not a need for them right now,
but at the same time, it eventually could be in need.
You have two good receivers that are over thirty, right,
So it's it's something that is some it would have
to be addressed at some point. The tough thing, I mean,
the the tough thing for you in this spot is
the way our drafts has played out has not broken
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well for Tampa Bay at all. You know, we had
four corners come off the board, We had what is it,
three edge rushers come off the board, and two in
the last like six picks and then also Jalen Walker
who could be an edge guy as well. So it
just break the way Tampa Bay needed it too. Write
like they this is probably not the best case scenario
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for Tampa Bay, but they could still have a very
good play with getting a guy like Golden, So they
definitely need different different spots in their team. But like
I said, if the in Campbell got taken earlier as well,
So if this all goes this way, then Tampa's kind
of left in a bind at this point where maybe
this is a trade back spot for them as well.
Because yeah, just you know, I don't hate the Golden
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pick though when a vacuum, because I think he's a
good player.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I could definitely see a trade back with does
a team want to jump like the Steelers to try
and make sure they get a quarterback? I could see,
I could see it happening, and I would definitely say yes.
I don't know. I think Jason l like just came out
and said, like, teams don't want to trade down, which
shows where he's his mindset is at. If he's saying
that publicly that teams don't want to trade down, that
he's at least thought about it. But yeah, it'll be
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interesting if this happened. Kyle number twenty the Denver Broncos.
Where are you going? All right?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I am probably racing this pick up to the racing
to the phone to make this pick. It's happening right away.
I'm a little bit surprised he didn't go earlier in
a few spots, but this is the way our draft
board took out shook out. So let me get Walter
Nolan here with the twentieth pick. He's a player that
I really like on the interior, he's my next highest
defensive prospect for sure, and Bronco's already got a very
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good defense. I think they can even give him some
time to kind of ease into the position, but he's
also still kind of in need. So I like Nolan
in this spot, and I think that this Broncos defense
could get even better going into next season.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, I like him as well. I think he's someone
who can help out with the defense, doesn't need help,
but again, he's a body you can throw in there
on the interior. I'm not quite as high on him
as I guess PFF is, because he was like one
of their highest graded players. He's twenty fifth on the
consensus Big Board. But yeah, I mean, I you know,
I think he's I think he's good, and I think
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he'll he could help out this defense.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So you know, this would be a
very interesting pick. I think that they would be thrilled
to have this shake out the way that it did.
So I think he could go in and you know,
play all along their three man defensive front and be impactful.
So I really like him in this position.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Okay, Kyle, It's twenty one the Pittsburgh Steelers, and this
is Remember, this is not what I think is gonna happen. Yes,
it appears as though Aaron Rodgers is going to be
with the Steelers. That's where we're assuming happens. But you
know what, it's what I would do, and I would
not be signing a forty year old Aaron Rodgers at
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this situation. I would be I think saying, hey, let's
I know, the tunny PICKTT thing didn't work out, but
you know what, let's go into the season with another quarterback.
I'm gonna take a quarterback that PFF apparently hates. Jackson
Dart will be my pick. Here at twenty one.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Jackson Dart the next pick. I don't hate it, you know,
I have Shador Sanders higher, but like, I think these
two are pretty close. I have them both as probably
second round grades. But if it's a quarterback, I don't
hate reaching for a quarterback at all. So you know,
I know it's second ground grade, but you're taking the
chance here. I think Jackson Dart has some really good
things to his game. I think he's terrific out of
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play action. I think that is something that Arthur Blank,
their offensive coordinator. I think he's still the offensive coordinator
loves to do. And so yeah, I think going into this,
I think this would be a good situation for Dart
where even yes, I would still be very hesitant to
sign a guy like Rogers. I think Rogers learning behind
Rogers for a year could be beneficial as well. Anyways,
so I like Dart in this spot for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Wait Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith, Yes, Arthur Blank is the U.
I had to check that that Like, wait a second,
that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah you know who I meant?
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I know? Yeah, a Falcons guy named Arthur Yeah, basically there. Yeah, again,
there are two teams there are three teams in the
in the league. There are teams that definitely have the
quarterback situation figured out, there are teams that maybe have
their quarterback situation figured out, and there are teams that
definitely don't have their quarterback situation figured out. This at
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least puts you into middle tier.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So I don't hate it at all.
And you're taking a chance here, and you know, maybe
he out plays Aaron Rodgers in the offseason or something
like that, So I definitely don't hate it at all.
And you take a chance on a quarterback who has some.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Talent, yeah, rather him than a guy who might just
end up being a We're talking about rotational players or
maybe starters type value at this point. Kyle twenty two
the Chargers, Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
I'm taking Luther Burden here, next player on my board.
He's a receiver. I really like. I even have him
over Matthew Golden on my receiver rankings. But you know,
I think those two are actually pretty close. And this
team needs some skill talent, so let's add some skill talent.
And I think that the way they may be able
to use him and Ladd McConkie could be really fun.
So let's put Burden and mcconki together in the same
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offense and run it. Although I know for a fact
that with two Michigan guys on the board, I feel
like John Harball would or Jim Harbaugh would definitely take
Cols Loveland over him. But I'm taking lou the Birthen
because I'm running the Chargers in this draft.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, feels like Colton Loveland to the Chargers feels like
that's what where things are leaning. But yeah, I would
love this pick, even as someone who's a little bit
lower and burdened than you are. I still have him
as kind of a fringe first rounder. There's so much
good stuff with his game that like, and I think
he would fit this system well. So yeah, I'd be
all for it.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, blue chip athlete, he makes some fantastic catches, and
I just think he's a very good player. So I
wouldn't hate it at all. Like I said, I don't
even hate Loveland like I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind Loveland
in this spot. He's pretty close on my board as well.
I just like Burden a lot more. I would have
Burden in the top twenty for me and getting him
at twenty two feels like a feels like a good pick.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah, makes sense. Twenty three. So now we have the
agreement Packers, which is a team I have not been
able to figure out what they should do this entire thing.
Kyle doesn't just make sense in real life for them
to trade with the Chiefs at thirty one. Chiefs come
up and get a tackle like that feels you know,
you're jumping the Texans and some other teams that might
want to go there.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I think so, yeah, so I wouldn't hate that at all.
But yeah, I mean I think that this could be
a trade back team. But I also think there's a
few good players on the board that could help him out.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Still, yeah, I'm trying. I mean kind of one thought
I'm going with. And again people are gonna call us
a reach and whatever, it's my opinion. I think it's
gonna go Jaden Higgins, who, Like, what did the Packers need?
They need someone who can win on the outside, Like
that's their whole issue with their offense. They're so good
over the middle stuff. But Higgins can hopefully be the
guy who can I think finish off this this offense.
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So again I'm higher and Higgins than a lot of
other people are. But like, I think this would really
fit this team really well.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
I don't hate it, Like, yeah, he would be he
would be among my next receivers considered. I have a
Buka over him. But at the same time, if you
want an outside receiver, I can understand talking yourself into
Higgins over him for sure, especially with the inconsistent play
of Christian Watson and the inconsistent health. So I definitely
don't hate that at all. And I think that'd still
be a pretty good pick.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, and the Packers are weird. No pick makes sense
for them here.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, they do things a little bit differently. They're probably
going to go offensive line, right.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, probably that's I think that's the move. Yeah, the
idea of oh, the idea of them drafting a receiver
in the first round could only be done in a
mock draft probably. But number twenty four, where are you
going with the Minnesota Vikings?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah? So the Vikings are an interesting spot because this
is a very good team. They still have a few holes.
It feels like they need to plug and play here,
So you know, I don't I don't necessarily get the
running back need and I wouldn't go I would think
about a Mari and Hampton, but I don't really need it.
The two spots I'm looking at here is interior defensive
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line where Harrison Phillips is older. You have Javon Hargrave,
which you know, we'll see how that works out. I guess,
so could you go with Kennet's grand in this spot?
But I am going to actually go with grays Abel.
I'm going with Greys Abel because I think you saw
the issues with this offensive line towards the end of
the season, where you know, Sam Donald got hit a
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lot in those last two games. Some of it was
Sam Donald's fault. But you know they have Christian Derisaw,
they have Brian O'Neil. Those guys are very good when
they're healthy. But I still think you need some guys
on the interior spot. And I like Zabel a lot
and I think he could play left guard for Blake Brandle,
and if Ayrosol gets hurt, I think you can bump
to the outside as well. So give me the versatile
player on this offensive line to really help him out.
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And I like that pick.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
I wouldn't hate it at all. You know who would
hate it the Houston, Txans if this ends up going
right before, because Houston obviously would be desperately wanting someone
like this. Yeah, it's interesting. It's not something I see
mock too often, but I wouldn't hate it at all.
And again, this is maybe why you if you're the Chiefs,
you want to trade with the Packers, and I'm sure
the Packers would want to trade down.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's definitely a case for it
for the guys, So you know, obviously there is a
you know, they I think Grant would even be a
great pick here. But yeah, I think Minnesota is one
of those teams where, you know, I think they can
get a little risky with their pick anyway, because there's
just so much talent in this team. It's not like,
you know, I have a few things. There's a few
spots I think they could definitely plug in and find
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some improvement. But at the same time, there are a
lot of guys that I think are really good on
this team, and it's not like there's a ton of
needs right now.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Yeah, it's you're right, they're I mean, they're in a
you know, I mean, they're in a pretty good spot.
They've done a good job at drafting. They are also
a team that could be a trade down candidate, as
they tend to tend to like to do that. Moving on,
so now we have the Houston Texans, who again very
disappointed as to how this is all all broken down
after they were, you know, very much hoping to improve
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their offensive line. I'm sure you could go Josh Simmons,
you could go Josh Connory. I just I think that's
what they would probably do. I just kind of feel
like that's a a reach here, right, Like, I just
don't know if I love that player in this spot.
So I don't know, I think I'm just gonna go with, Like,
is it crazy to go kind of grant here, someone
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who you know, again, their run defense is pretty good
last year, but they could they could find snaps for
him again, build on a strength, and then just hope
you can fix the offensive line later on. I think
I think that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, I don't hate it, you know, I think it's
kind of adding best player available in the draft, and
I don't I think that's very okay. I like Ibuka
in this spot too, you know, help some offensive talent,
but at the same time. Yeah, I don't think this
is a this is a reach at all. And you know,
I think he'd be a very good player there.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, someone brings up Booker, which again I just I
don't think he's worth I don't think he's as good
of a player like I think you're getting, in my opinion,
by space of my violation, I think you're getting a
worst player if you do that, which is why I
hate going into the draft needing to get a position
you kind of I think the Texans might have to
sort of finagle to draft and maybe they're a team
that trades up to try and the offensive lineman they want.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they're in a really tough spot
because they made that trade right the Laramie tons on one,
they desperately need some offensive line help. It feels like this.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Season, Yeah, twenty six the Los Angeles Rams, a team
that all of a sudden turns out they're pretty good
at this drafting. The first round thing. Jared Vers last
year was a superstar. Kyle, where would you go with
the Rams this year?
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, there's a few different options here. You know, I
actually have Josh Simmons above Zabel in my rankings. However,
obviously the torny cl scares me. And then the second thing,
I think Zabel's a little more versatile, being able to
play a little bit more guard where I think Simmons
did play guard in the past. But I think he's
more of a tackle at this point. But I'm gonna
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take the chance here on Simmons and say let's plug
him in here and add some offensive line help. I
think he could play tackle. He played right tackle at
San Diego State, he played left tackle at Ohio State
before tearing his AC. And there's a ton of traits
with this guy that you'd really like. So I don't
hate it at all, and I'm okay taking the chance here.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah, I completely understand it. Again, he's not a player
that I He's not a player that I'm just as
crazy about that. That's the only reason why I didn't,
you know, you know, didn't make that move with the Taxans.
But if you like him, like sure, why not? I
mean the position of need and he has the trades
at least to be a good pass blocking tackle, which
is important when you have Matthew Stafford a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm perfectly okay with that. And
let's let's take the chance and see if we can
make something happen there. But yeah, I think the potential
for him is still high and he could definitely help
this Rams offense right away if he's helping right.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Didn't consider Shitar Sanders here at.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
All, No, not at this time. I'm not looking at
that right now. I just wouldn't worry about it at
this time.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Uh huh, Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair.
Moving on to pick twenty seven in the this is
another team that I kind of kind of struggle with
a bit because I'm kind of looking at it like
the top players on my board, so I have I
have Kyle Williams, but I wouldn't draft him the first
round because he's not gonna go in the first round.
I have Derek Carmon. Uh there's you know who is again.
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I don't think they need they don't need an interior guy.
I have Maxwell Harrison. I don't know if they need
a corner. I have Colston Lovelin. They definitely don't need
a tight end. So it's just kind of a weird
spot for the Ravens. I feel the way this has
all all broken out so I'm trying to think, do
I wanna do I want to go with like, uh,
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Mecca at Buka here who they don't Again, is that
a need for them? I don't think so. But could
they build off of a strength perhaps? I think that
might be what I do here with Kyle. What do
you think my next pick?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Would be very upset with that, But I don't hate it.
You know, you could go Donovan as a roku, you know,
potentially if he's your next defensive lineman on the draft.
You know, this team loves to bring in some edge
rush talent, so I wouldn't hate that as well. In
you know that that is a really tough spot because
this is another team that feels like they could use
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an interior offensive lineman. You know, I think Connorly's a
guy who could bump inside as well, so that is
an option as well. It's just nothing feels perfect to me.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, which maybe means I should just find a find
a player that that that I like, because again, the
interior offensive line is probably what I would do. But
you have Travis Jones, who's twenty five and plays seven
hundred snaps a year, and then you have Matta Buket
who plays nine hundred snaps a year, so like they're
on a few teams like legitimately wouldn't have space for
an interior defensive lineman, so you can't really do that.
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I think I'm just gonna draft at Buka, who I
think will be good, and we'll fit the scheme and
you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah. No, I definitely don't hate the pick at all.
I think he's a good player. And you know, let's
put it this way, like, are you still one hundred
percent convinced of Rashad Bateman after one season? I'm not
one hundred percent convincing them. So maybe this is a
spot where you just take a chance and say, let's
just give herself some insurance here just in case.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yeah, and again he'll get playing time, right, I mean,
like you have like like Kylon Wallace had four hundred
snaps last year, right, like you like now you have
h Eggbuka taking those snaps and there's other snaps to
be had. So yeah, I think it like DeAndre Hopkins
should not be scaring you off of drafting, you know,
a receiver if you want a receiver.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean we saw DeAndre Hopkins in some
big games last year, no shows. So you know, at
this point, DeAndre Hopkins was a great player. I'm not
banking on that adding a whole lot for me at
this point.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, if there was a better fit, I would go
with that. But I don't hate this pick, Kyle twenty eight.
The Lions do hate that pick. Not a half a scramble.
What are you thinking here?
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, tough spot for them. They really wanted if Buka
to followed them. He did not, so they're looking elsewhere.
And let me take a look at my board here
where am I at? So I could go with You know,
I have two guys here that I really like still
that are you know, highish enough on my board that
I'm okay with it, And they're towards the top of
this draft. You know, maybe we take a reach and
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a guy like Loveland and just say let's add talent.
But you already have a great tight end in Sam Laporto,
so you.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
Don't need it.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
But you do need an ed rusher. You know, we
saw what happened when Aiden Hutchinson got hurt last year.
I know they added somebody in the trade as well,
but let's get Donovan as rokwuu. I think that's how
you say his name. Let's just add another ed rusher.
Let's get another body in there and see what he
can do. And I think he's a good player.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, yeah, I don't don't don't hate this. Again, I'm
a little bit lower on him than other people, but
not massively, so I think that he's someone who would help.
And yeah, I mean it's the Lions are kind of
one of those teams whereas much nice to say, I
hate drafting for need, it's like when you get to
these teams, you can maybe make the argument, right of
let's just try to get a player who can help
us win now.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, yeah, And I think you know, he's got experience,
he's a smart player, and I think he's someone that
can come in and try and compete for a spot
and compete for some snaps, even if he's still got
a little bit of developmental to go.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yeah. Number twenty nine the Washington football team also known
as the Washington Commanders, who again are a bit weird.
I do think they would like to go edge rusher here,
but I just feel like if I'm drafting an edge rusher,
I'm probably reaching at this point. I think that, so
I think they actually this is kind of crazy, sounds crazy,
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but I think they actually feel fine about their cornerback situation.
I think they're banking on Lattimore to improve, and then
you just have like Mike Sanderstril, Jonathan Jones, Noah Igbinogny
like I don't know if that's a I mean, Santi
still's good, but I don't know if i'd feel great
about this room. And what if Latimore doesn't get better. Listen,
if everyone steps up and they don't need a corner, fine,
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but there's a corner I still like. I like Maxwell
Harrison a lot, and he's available, and let's just do
this and if everyone and if a lot more goes
back to being great, then we'll find we'll find room
for him. The secondary is about depth, having the next
Being too deep at corner is a great situation to have.
Look at Philadelphia last year, which is kind of what
happened to them. That's the pick I would make.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, uh, you know, I'm a little bit lower on Harrison,
but I understand the the appeal. I think he's got,
you know, a great physicality to him, and he forces
a lot of incompletions. But you know, I do think
he has a little bit of the penalty thing to him,
and I think that's something that's going to have to
be adjusted at the next level. But maybe he coach
that out of him and you know, help him get
better in those spots. So I definitely don't hate it.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, thirty the Buffalo Bills, where are you going? All right?
Speaker 2 (59:42):
All right, So I'm going a little deep on my
board here. Okay, he is someone I have or deep
on the consensus board. I think I have him much
much higher than the consensus for sure. But he's a
player I really like and I think he has a
chance to be pretty special. I'm going Darian Porter, the
corner from Iowa State. Very unique player, older prospect. He
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is twenty four, so that's a bit of a red flag,
especially when he didn't start until twenty twenty four. But
former wide receiver, former special team or track athlete. He's
got incredible speed, incredible explosiveness, plus ninety fifth percentile measurables
with heightened arm length. I think he's a really interesting
talent who could be very good. He's got the ball
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scales of a receiver. He's got the speed, he's got
the length. I could think he could be a sleeper
in this draft. And he's someone I have firmly at
the top of the second round. So I'm reaching a
little bit. But I want to add some defensive talent here,
and I'm just lower on guys like Skeleton Stewart than others,
and I don't want to take him in that spot,
so I'm going to go and get the corner that
I think could have a high upset play.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah. Well, he's such an interesting player. He reminds me
almost like Jordan Mylotta when that was selected right where
it's like, this is the guy who he has a
lot like four hundred snaps at corner in his career,
but like he's also you know, uh trying to remember
his uh I'll look up as measurable. Yeah, he's what
like six' four and runs a four to Three like
that's like. Ridiculous so it's like if you can get,
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him if you can get him sort of figure out the,
position there could be an elite level player. Here just
the question is like is that going to? Happen? Uh, so,
YEAH i think for the For bills, FANS i think
they would rather have a corner who they can like, Trust,
LIKE i think they'd rather have A Trey amos who's
just like someone should be good right. Away but, like but,
yeah but this is definitely if it hits something that
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could really work.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Out, Yeah and obviously we were a little bit higher On,
amos so he goes higher in this. Draft and it's
another one WHERE i don't love like the fit for
a lot of these. Players you, know they don't need
a guy Like, lovelin you, KNOW i don't think they're
not they don't need a guy Like. Hampton who are
the next two guys on my? Board you, know maybe
they could Go Josh cornolly and try and build some
depth on this offensive line or go go into you,
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know it's JUST i think they need a defensive, player
and there's just not a lot of defensive PLAYERS i
love in this. Spot so it's Between porter And Benjamin
morrison for.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Me, yeah it makes. Sense number thirty one the team
that beat The bills in the conference, championship The Kansas City,
chiefs who, Again i'm Just i'm they're a team that
would not love how this all broke broke, down. Right
they they are definitely disappointed in this situation with the
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offensive lineman not really falling to. THEM i Think i'm
just gonna go with With Derek, hartmon really good pass
rushing interior defensive, lineman a guy who again don't find
playing time For they did lose a you, know a
defensive lineman out an edge, rusher but still they're snaps
in a different. Place so, yeah again not the biggest
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position of. Need but also having a good pass rusher
next To Chris jones could be very.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Fun, YEAH i don't hate it at. ALL i think
it's a nice. Pick it could be very. Fun, indeed
did you think About Connor lee and this spot or
do you not have him high?
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Enough he's just not high enough for.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Me. Yeah and then and obviously you're a little bit
lower on A mari And HAMPTON i think than, Others
so that wasn't a consideration for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
YOU i, mean The chiefs are. NOT i guess they
didn't go. Ceh but like, no like that doesn't make
any that doesn't make any. Sense Like Clyde, edwards you,
layer at LEAST i think they thought he was gonna
be also like a like A christian McCaffrey type who
could pass catch LIKE i Think hampton is a team
that the right team to draft him would be like
The Denver, broncos a team that is like, this you,
know we're gonna have A you're gonna build off the.
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Run The chiefs are, Smart they're, like, no we're just
gonna Sign Kareem hunt off the street and we'll be. Fine.
Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
YEAH i think that's completely. Fair so, YEAH i think
it is a. INTEREST i definitely don't hate the pick
BECAUSE i was gonna pick him, next so, yeah it works.
Out i'm just you, know picking your brain a little
bit about the thought process, here how you feel about
those other. Prospects those guys are fringe first rounders for,
Me but, YEAH i don't hate it at. All there's
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two guys that still like for this next, pick so
we'll see how it. Goes.
Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah interesting how this is all broken down and he's
Like Colson lovelin is still on the, board Or Marion,
hampton as you, mentioned still on the. Board Nick. Scorington
you Know Shamar, stewart who some people would, have The Philodelphia,
eagles who are known for being grantedt Drafting. Kyle what
would you, do not what you think they will? Do
what would you do if you. Were.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Now, yeah interesting spot here for The eagles BECAUSE i
still have a few GUYS i have first round grades,
on you, know rattling off a few GUYS i have
first round grades. On they obviously don't need A Marin.
Hampton they have a guy Named Saquon barkley who's pretty.
Good they don't necessarily need Shot Josh, cornelly ALTHOUGH i
wouldn't hate them adding another offensive lineman just for death.
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Purposes they have some older guys on that offensive. Line
he is a GUY i still like towards the back
half of the first, Round SO i take those guys
off the. Board my next, guys as far as you
know first round grades go Are Xavier watchs' safety at
a noted. DAME i don't necessarily need, him and then
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the other two THAT i still have first round grades,
On Mikhel williams And Colson. Loveland this team has had
a lot of success Drafting georgia, players And Mickel, williams you,
know fills A i think more obvious need for me
for this, team just because like they Lost Josh wett
And Milton, williams which is WHY i was going to
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Take harmon in this. Spot if he felt. Me but,
YEAH i Think williams is the GUY i really like
in this draft as an edge, guy SO i DON'T
i wouldn't hate that. Idea, HOWEVER i think this is
still a team, that while they have some, needs is
always about drafting the best players they can find available
and figuring out from. There and the best PLAYER i
have left on the board, still who you know fell
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because of the positional need for a lot of these
teams Is Colson, loveland WHO i think could have could
should possibly go as high as twenty two to The.
CHARGERS i just like burden a lot falling into that.
Spot so give Me loveland in this spot and say
we'll just figure it out from there BECAUSE i think
he's the next best. PROSPECT i like.
Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
It it's, again it's it's it's something that The eagles
would definitely, be, uh you, know considering now, obviously as
we all, know they do not need a tight. End
they Have Dallas. Goddard but, again you, can you can
have multiple tight end. Sets that's something you're allowed to. Do,
uh just looking at. It last, Year Grant, karta the
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backup tight, end had eight hundred and eighty snaps last,
year so like that's and, again part that was Because
goddard was banged up for a, bit and part of
that look because they went to the Super, bowl so
they played uh you know when they were two, seeds
so they played four extra. Games but, still you're gonna
get snaps out of out Of. Loveland you can make it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Work, Yeah, yeah you're gonna get snaps out of them for.
Sure and you, know it gives you some insurance Because
goddard has dealt with some. Injuries you, know you could
go in a different you, know if you need to
make a trade there to cut some, costs you could
make that trade. Too but, YEAH i think there's a
few different options. There and LIKE i, SAID i think
this team is historically done very well drafting the last
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few years because they just, say let's just get best
players and figure it. Out AND i think he is
the next best, player ALTHOUGH i wouldn't Hate williams in
this spot.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Either, Yeah, kyle that is our mock. DRAFT i think
it'll probably go a little bit different tomorrow. Night, YEAH
i feel pretty confident about the first two. PICKS i
think so, YEAH i think first, THREE i feel LIKE
i there's a chance things can get weird at, three
BUT i feel like IT'S i feel pretty good about.
Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Those if you were to bet on three of our
picks being right after the first three, picks which three
picks would you bet?
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
On, well the first TWO i jumped to are both
five and, Six Mason graham to The jaguars And genty
to The, raiders although that's not. Guaranteed genty could go.
Fifth i'm trying to think what's the next one THAT
i would. Go maybe Maybe ted McMillan to The, panthers
just because that feels like there's a good chance that.
Happens i'm not saying it, guaranteed, will BUT i THINK
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i think those would probably be my.
Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Three, YEAH i think that's. FAIR i Think Mike green
is an interesting one of the. FOULS i think if
he falls that, far it's, happening you. KNOW i think
that could be an interesting, one you. Know Tyler warren
is another one where if he falls to, FOURTEEN i
think it should be a slam. Dunk The Cold state
game mm. Hm SO i think those are a few
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interesting ones for, Sure but beyond, that, LIKE i think
The cardinals would also be thrilled If Will johnson's, there so,
LIKE i think that's another slam dump for. Me but, yeah, five,
six and then beyond, that we'll.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
See, Yeah michael, says how pumped are you for this
year's draft versus previous. Years i'm. EXCITED i THINK i
Think i'm a little bit uh, WELL i Think i'm
a little bit just worn out Because i'm planning a
wedding and also doing all the draft. Stuff So i'm
excited for it to be over for just for time.
Purposes i'm also a little bit just, LIKE i feel
like the first handful of picks are kind of gonna
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go either like one or one of two, ways which
could be a bit of a bummer if that's how it.
Goes BUT i still think there's a lot of a
lot of injury. Here the draft's always, Fun, yeah it
is always.
Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
FUN i you, know we talked. ABOUT i think the
first three picks seem like they're pretty solid spots right. Now,
HOWEVER i think with the interesting thing with this, draft
we're not gonna have The Michael pennix like whoa moment
of this draft, Necessarily BUT i think there's gonna be
a lot of variants as far as draft boards. Go you,
KNOW i think there's gonna be teams who Have Kelvin
banks in their top, ten and there's gonna be teams
(01:09:18):
who don't Have Kevin banks in their top. TWENTY i
think there's gonna be people who Have Jihad campbell in
their top fifteen and people who don't have him in
the first. Round stuff like. That you, know same thing
with a guy Like Jalen walker and going up and
down the. BOARD i think there are, guys you, know
LIKE i, SAID i was listening TO i Think Peter
schrager the other day saying That Gray zabel could go
(01:09:38):
in the top twenty of people's people's. Drafts so you,
know there's a lot of interesting elements to that where you,
know where there's not a lot of blue, chip five
star prospects that feels like in the, DRAFT i think
there is a lot of opportunity for variance and interesting,
picks even though there's not gonna be A Michael pennock,
SITUATION i think.
Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Well and even Like Shoulder, sanders he legitimately there's there's an.
Out there's a world where he goes top, three and
there's a world where he doesn't get drafted in the first.
Round Like i've never seen something like that happen. BEFORE
i guess typically Will levis was supposed to go like
top five and, foul but no one thought he was
gonna fall out in the first round night before to
draft Like, sanders that's legitimately a people are predicting, that
(01:10:19):
and people are predicting him to go top.
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Three CAN i? OVERTAKE i think If sanders goes in
the top, fifteen it's an owner.
Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Meddling that's the not.
Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
IMPOSSIBLE i, think you, KNOW i think there's a variance
on boards because scouts are like, different you, know different
opinions on different. PLAYERS i think a lot of scouts
have the same opinion On Shdeur. Sanders it sounds LIKE
i think the public perception Of Shador sanders is what's skewing.
This and OBVIOUSLY i think he is fun to, watch
SO i think that is the aspect that's skewing.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
It, YEAH i, mean it's it's it's it's it's possible
that would be if there is A Michael panick's, moment
it's good to be involved In. SANDERS i, think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
At this, Point i'm pretty. Surprised i'd be pretty surprised
if The giants took him. Three if they traded out of,
It i'd be less, surprised But i'd be pretty surprised
if he goes third.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Overall, kyle if, someone if a billionaire came to you
who listened to the show and, Says i'm gonna give
you a million, dollars but you have to give one
pick from this mock draft that definitely will not happen
in the real, draft has no least about a chance of.
Happening you get the million dollars as long as that
pick does not. Happen which one of these picks are you?
Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Taking Probably membo to The, Patriots.
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Honestly, YEAH i guess that'd PROBABLY.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Wt there's so much reporting on that at this, Point
LIKE i think it. Is, UH i feel pretty good
That Will campbell is gonna go, there even THOUGH i
like memboo. More you, KNOW i think you could talk
me into IF i were to bet on anything, Else
like let's, SEE.
Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
I Think starks to The bears feels like an. Option, yeah,
yeah the love one two To.
Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Eagles, yeah, yeah that's fair because he'd go higher for, sure.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Right because he either would go higher or To eagles
wouldn't take him it's like that one could go either.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Way, yeah SO i think there's a few different ones
there that could be talked into, it but, YEAH i
think those are the Ones i'd probably look at the.
Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Most, yeah, Well, kyle that is our. Show let me
know where can find us On twitter before we head.
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Out, yeah make sure to follow us On. Twitter that
is At Jackson. Kruger make sure to follow me at
By Kyle, gronn and make sure to follow the account
page at on the SIDELINE. Jk that is that on
the SIDELINE.
Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Jk of, course if you like audio only, podcasts anywhere
you get your, podcasts search on The sideline Podcast it
is available. There and, Uh kallas, weird how like nothing
has happened in hockey. Recently that's, just you, know it
completely gone by nothing. Nothing note that we need to
talk about hockey is.
Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Over we don't have to talk about it at. All
we're all. Good.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah, yeah so that's that's. Interesting. Yeah, again thank you
everybody for watching or listening cow any file. Thoughts you're
ready to get out.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Of, Here, no let's get out of, here you, know
end of the, day and everybody enjoy your.
Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Week OH i GUESS i should. Mention, TOMORROW i will
be making videos for every first round. PICK i also
should have winners and losers and a round two mock
draft after the first, round so be on the lookout
on this. Channel plenty of content coming at. You but,
yeah that is it. Again thank you everybody for watching or.
Listening we do appreciate. It until next, time have a good, one,
(01:13:30):
peace
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