Week 1 Recap

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Dawn to
Sideline Podcast with Jackson and Kyle. I am Jackson, and
I'm joined here as always by the man who would
never never fumble in the fourth quarter? Kyle. Kyle, how's
it going?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I would never fumble in the fourth quarter because I
wouldn't be playing in the fourth quarter. But I am
very good fired up? That was I mean, do we
just have the game of the year week one Sunday
Night Football? I mean it feels that way, hasn't it maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, yeah, this is let's just I mean, we
always start off with the Sunday Night Show. We don't
need any preamble here. Kyle Ravens bills one of the
craziest games. What crazy to finishes? I mean, it was
weird because it just felt like, Okay, we know how
this is gonna go right, Like Josh Allen's doing what
he can to keep this team in it. But like
a couple couple you know, drives that they weren't able

(01:32):
to score on earlier, it's gonna be a difference, Like
there's just no stopping Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. All
of a sudden, the fumble, the you know, Bills nearly
tie it. They don't though they aren't able to convert
to two point conversion. John Harbaugh decides not to go
for it on fourth and three, which I can't believe
he decided to punt that ball away Josh Allen. The

(01:52):
Bills win this football game, go up to one to no.
It's it's strange that the Ravens keep doing this year
after year where they have the like weird history of
blowing games like this. But I mean, the story has
to be right out the bat, just how good this
Bill's offense was.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
They were amazing, And I mean, like I I had
a few Week one over reactions I think ready and
I had one from this game even that, like I
was ready to say in this game that the Ravens
are handedly the most complete team in the AFC right now,
and honestly, I still kind of think it, Like I
think there's a big gap between them and Baltimore and

(02:31):
Kansas City. It's just completeness of this roster. However, what
isn't a Week one over reaction to for me? Because
I said it in the off season when we did
our quarterback rankings, and I feel the same way Josh
Allen is the best football player on the planet right now,
and oh my god, he was amazing in this game.
Is particularly in the second half when they had those
long drives. I mean just some of the throws he

(02:51):
made down the field. Him and Keyon Coleman were just
on fire in this game. Huge part of the reason
they win this one, and I mean that was the
story late in this game, was that they couldn't get
Josh Allen off the field. And yeah, I mean there's
just a whole lot of we can do, a whole
Ravens thing to get into. I have a lot of

(03:12):
thoughts on it. We can talk about it, but I
think just at the top, both of these quarterbacks were
absolutely amazing. Both of them played like MVP candidates in
Week one, so we're not going to overreact to that,
but they were the top two MVP candidates last year
and it was just a sensational game from those two
and then Josh Allen in the end just took over
this game and he went Pastmote. He went Beastmote in

(03:32):
a way that we rarely ever see from players in
this in this league.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, I mean, he was incredible. Again, we can do
the is he the best in the world. I mean
he did. He did have what multiple dropped interceptions in
this game. Like he was also ridiculous in the fourth
quarter and all this time, I get it. I'm not
gonna come here and take and say anything negative about
either of these two quarterbacks. And I thought they were
both ridiculous in this game. And Dereck Henry again was

(03:58):
unbelievable into there was that fumble. I mean, there were
so many, so many great moments, and I think for
the Ravens, I kind of take it from I mean
the Bills. You know, again, unbelievable win for the Ravens.
In some ways, this was a nightmare, right, Like everything
was perfect four minutes left, You're up fifteen points, your

(04:19):
your bench is chanting MVP, You're proving Lamar deserved the MVP,
and now it's all a disaster. And like it's one game.
I don't think this is going to be the end all,
be all for the season. I mean, you know, last
year the Ravens blew out the Bills in the regular
season and lost in the playoffs. But like, what a
nightmare of an ending to what was a dream game

(04:41):
for the most you know, throughout fifty six minutes.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's just one of those things where, you know,
we talked, We have talked about these two teams specifically
for a number of years because they've been in the
you know, they've been in the conversation for the last
few seasons, and particularly the raven side. You know, I
texted my friends I have a timestam too, so I'm
not lying about this. I said it in text to

(05:06):
them after that Bill's touched down to make it forty
to thirty two, that this would just be the most
Ravens loss possible. To dominate for like two thirds of
this game and then all of a sudden just end
up losing somehow, and I didn't expect it to come
from a Derek Henry fumble in a touchdown, but like, yeah,
this second half just was like a feast or famine

(05:26):
show for them. And you know, I think one of
the things, like when we talk about these huge, huge comebacks,
that gets overlooked all the time. It's one of the
most underrated parts I think about it. And you know,
I could speak from experience, just because the twenty eight
three thing I need to talk about, I need to
mention twenty eight three because I need some good Patriots
juju in my life right now. But the biggest thing

(05:47):
I think is overlooked in a lot of these games
is play count and just how much guys are on
the field. Yeah, Bill's ended up with seventy eight plays
compared to the Ravens fifty. The Ravens drives in the
second half for a four play touchdown drive, a punt in,
three and out, a three play touchdown drive, a four
play touchdown drive, a three and out punt, two plays fumble,

(06:08):
and then three and out where they punted it away
on fourth and two. Like, and that was the most
asinine thing about the fourth and two decision to go,
uh punt it away? Is like, how can you expect
your defense after all of that? The Bills have been
on the field the entire second half of this game,
how do you expect them to get a stop at
the end of this game in that situation? And yeah,
it just it just feels like the most Ravens thing

(06:29):
possible to dominate games. And then two or three plays
you shoot yourself in the foot and then all of
a sudden, the other teams back in it are winning
the game. And I don't know what the like. You
can't expect teams to play perfect all the time. But
like the best version of the Baltimore Ravens is the
best team in the NFL. This team should win super Bowls.
This team can win super Bowls. But how many times

(06:50):
are we just going to see these boneheaded mistakes and
plays and situations and just no accountability is held for it.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's it's very bizarre. It's very bus because, like again,
I think usually when a game like this happens, the
takeaway is, well, that's not gonna happen. Like you know,
if it was a seven game series, it's not gonna happen.
You don't expect that to be repeatable. But it keeps
happening with Baltimore. And again, like that fourth down call
where they have a chance to its fourth and short
will just win the game. I remember there was fourth

(07:19):
and one against the Chiefs when they did go for
it and converted. And it's also just like the way
this game is going, it reminds me of the famous
Bill Belichick going for it against the Colts back in
the day. It just feels like it's the right call. Kyle.
I don't know how you stop Josh Allen when he's
like this, like I don't know what you do, Like

(07:39):
they can't get pressure because the offensive line is so good.
When if a play doesn't work, he just finds a
way to buy time for ten seconds. Eventually someone's gonna
get wide open. Like it's he's unstoppable.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He's absolutely unstoppable at his best, and you were right
like there was mistakes early in this game from Josh Allen,
Like I even was coming away from this game thing
and like this made like a C plus Josh Allen
game early on. But he just has this like takeover factor.
It's like it's like when you play NBA Jam and
like the hoop catches fire and all of a sudden,
you're just not missing from half court. That just feels

(08:12):
like Josh Allen in some of these moments where he's
like I'm taking over the game, this is my game now,
that he could just do that against anybody, and this
is a good Ravens defense. I have no issue. I'm
not coming away from this game with issues for the
Ravens defense going forward. They're gonna be fine. They were
on the field forever in the second half and couldn't
get a break and then Josh Allen's amazing. So I

(08:33):
have no issues with that. I just think, like you,
you could put the eighty five Bears mixed with the
two thousand and four Patriots mixed with the Legion of
Boom Seahawks, and you could put Josh Allen on fire
and he still probably scores on those guys. Like it's
just like he just does this against anybody.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, uh yeah, it's it's it's it's it's remarkable. And also,
like again, the little things you think of like become
a bigger deal, like that end of a half where
there was still one second left insteader able to get
a field goal, It's like that, like that was the
difference in a game. Like if they don't get that,
obviously the whole situation changes, but like that was a
huge three points. Like it's it's it's unbelievable. One of

(09:16):
the craziest games we've seen moving forward. Uh. Like again,
I think that I was gonna say, you know, in
the fourth quarter, I'm like, Okay, you got kind of
gotta give the Ravens like Super Bowl favorites, like they're
they're blowing out the Bills again, like the Chiefs didn't
look great Week one. Even if Mahomes did, like you
gotta do it. I think I'm now like, if you

(09:37):
give me one team of who I'm gonna pick to
win the AFC, I think I gotta go Buffalo, Like
they just they can. They're more completed for roster than
Kansas City right now. And again, they don't blow these
games the way Baltimore does. That's just how I view
it right now.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, at this point, they have shown that they're not
gonna blow the games in the same way at least.
I mean, they've blown a few their fair share of
games over the years, especially in the playoffs, but they
don't do it to the same grandiose level that Baltimore has.
I mean, this isn't just a one game sample size
a week one sample size. Yes, it's a new season, Yes,
things change, but I mean, what was that Raiders game?

(10:13):
Was it last year or two years ago that they
had that wacky loss? I mean they just over and
over Yeah, yeah, they just over and over again. It
feels like regular season or playoffs just have these games
where it feels like the Ravens are in complete control.
And like you said, the Bills got that one second
field goal at half, and that felt like it was
just like, Okay, yeah, the Ravens are still kind of

(10:33):
dominating this game. They're only up seven though, and it's
just one or two or three plays a game that
feels like it makes a difference for the Ravens every
time that you look back on this should have been
done differently, This should have been done differently. And you
can look at that, you can look at the fumble,
you can look at not going forward on fourth and two,
and yeah, that's probably the difference between those three plays
alone are probably the difference between Ravens winning this game

(10:55):
by ten or winning it losing by one. And yeah,
I think that I think they are the most complete
team in the AFC. I do. I think I came
away from this game thing and this roster is really
really good. I have I have concerns about Buffalo's secondary.
I came away from this game thing in that too.
I have some serious concerns. But it is week one

(11:16):
and they're not going to face Lamar Jackson all the time.
We'll see if they can get better. Harrison obviously is hurt.
That was their first round pick as a rookie. Maybe
he can make an impact. But right now, I think
Baltimore is the most talented team, but they have to
show us that they can do this.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, we find you know a few months from now
when we talk about the Kant State Chiefs back in
the Super Bowl, how they do it? You know, amazing, Kyle,
we could do an hour on this show, but on
this game. But let's move on. It's already you know,
past midnight under East Coast. We've got a lot to
get to. Let's go from one championship contender to maybe another.

(11:53):
Lions Packers, Packers with this not just victory, but dot victory.
I mean, Kyle, there was a lot of people who
the Packers were kind of like the dark horse team
this year of like a lot of people were saying, oh,
I think look out for the Packers, and I was like,
you fools. Clearly this team does not have what it
takes to be a championship contender. Well here they go
Week one blow out the Detroit Lions, who have been

(12:17):
the kind of running the division for a bit. Lions
don't get any running game going. Jared Goff does not
play what you want him to play. They did have
a few plays where it worked out, but also got
had a bad interception in there Jordan Love. Again. The
theme of this week was dropped interceptions. Seems like every
quarterback had some turnover. Look, Love did have a stretch

(12:38):
where he had you know, two dropped in or it
was a dropped interception and then an interception called back
due to a penalty on the same drive. Other than that, though,
he played just about exactly what you could whatever you
would hope for with him, battle for scheme, stuff up.
Defense looks awesome, like a person didn't even have to
do a lot in this one. And the Packers win
by fourteen over to Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, this was impressive game. You know, we'll we'll go
from the Packers side because I think that was the
more interesting one. They bring Michael Parsons in, Like you said,
he's kind of in and out of the rotation. He
barely practice, he's been dealing with an injury, he's learning
the scheme all that. He did get a sack in
this game, but that's kind of whatever. I think the

(13:19):
two most impressive things for me for the Packers was
the Jordan Love first half, where that Jordan Love first
half is the kind of Jordan Love. That's going to
help this team make or win a Super Bowl, right,
That is the kind of performance you need consistently from him,
and I tweeted out and I feel the same way.
That version of Jordan Love is going to be more
important for the Packers winning a championship than anything Michael

(13:41):
Parsons will ever do in a Packers' uniform. If they
get that version of Jordan Love, they can win a
Super Bowl. He was so good in the first half.
He was dicing this team. Him and Matt Lafloor just
felt like they were in another level of playing football
compared to the Detroit defense. They had no chance in
that first half. Seventeen points in the first half. It
looked like they were going to go and then this
game got a little bit ugly, like Green Bay couldn't

(14:03):
really run the ball in this game. But the biggest
story to me along with that was the Detroit ends up.
Detroit has been one of the best rushing football teams
in the league last couple of seasons. Interior offensive lines
brand new, That's a huge part of it. But two
point one yards per carry and I think you got
to put tip your cat to Eddrian Cooper and Kay

(14:25):
Walker in this game, those two Packers linebackers, the young linebackers.
You know, it was talked a lot about Kenny Clark
being traded. This was a bad run defense. Those guys
looked amazing in this game and really made a difference
in that run defense I think in week one.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, absolutely, Also the elephant in the room no Ben Johnson,
and I don't know how much that mattered, but guys
were not getting open the way we usually expect. Screen
passes weren't getting open like they were all over that.
Maybe the Packers just came out prepared. It's a divisional matchup.
We'll see, you know. The Lions played the Bears next week,

(14:59):
which obviously continuity to air as well and end the Ravens.
So kind of a tough start. Oh my god. I
don't quite realize how tough their schedule is. The start,
I mean, because then you get the Browns, but then
you get the Bengals, the Chiefs, like the Buccaneers, who
are no slouch. Like, it gets easier after that, but
it's a tough start for the Detroit Lions. But like,
but yeah, I mean, that's just it. It's one week.

(15:22):
I don't know, how much of it is the offensive line,
But like I kind of came away for this with
this game, Like Jared Goff can't just be like a
passenger here. He has to start taking more chances. I think,
like I think that this is he's gonna need to
play a little bit more aggressive. Maybe it's just one week.
You don't want to fully change your play style, but
like there were opportunities where guys were maybe open, and
he's playing as though he has Ben Johnson as his coordinators.

(15:44):
I don't know if that's that's gonna work anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, it's tough. You know, the NFL is tough because
the schedule is shorter than any other sport in the world. Right,
it's only seventeen games to prove yourself and make the playoffs.
So I want to give this group a benefit of
the doubt for a little bit that like they're gonna
need some time to figure this out. But you know,
especially with you know, only sixteen games remaining and this division,
which you know, we still haven't seen the Vikings and Bears,

(16:08):
but they have pretty good rosters. Like you don't have
a lot of opportunity to figure this out either, So
it definitely is going to be interesting to see how
that A'll adjust. I do think the interior offensive line
does look like an issue so far. And yeah, the
play calling has to be talked about. And I think
you can talk about the play calling at both sides
of the ball because they look lost in that first

(16:30):
half too. Defensively, they settled in a little bit, but
I think the Packers, you know, you could argue they
might have been a little bit more on cruise control
in that situation. But yeah, I just think that there
was a there are concerns for both sides of the ball.
I don't think we got all of it answered. Other
than that there is a few you know, I will
be watching it more closely. You know, there's definitely a

(16:52):
void here with the Lions and what they looked like
the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I mean, I think, like, definitively both of us
picked the line to win the division. I think we're
probably both definitively in The Packers are the favorites now
right this week one. But like A'll say this, I
feel like the Packers have a buch higher, much higher
odds right now. I have to pick one team, I'm
picking Green.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Bay yeah, they are, they are looking. I mean, you
can't come away from this game thinking the lines are better,
like maybe, like I just I don't see the path
right now. You know, they they they they can definitely
improve and get better and get in that conversation, but
like right now, yeah, the Packers have to be considered
the favorites over them.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's annoying. Come on, Packers. Let the Lions have it
for like a few more years.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Hey, we still haven't seen the Vikings man watch that's true.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I know, Okay, we'll see, We'll see Kyle.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
You know who else's world? It is Aaron Rodgers and
the Pittsburgh Steelers finishing off the revenge game. I sort
of forgot that, Like Aaron Rodgers does hate the Jets
with the whole Aaron Glenn thing. Uh. After the game,
he was asked how did it feel beating Aaron Glenn
after he was you know, they had their kind of
issue and offseason, and Aaron Rodgers said, I was happy

(18:06):
to be everyone in the Jets organization, so everyone, like
even like the hot dog vendors, Like what do you
mean everyone? But yeah, Aaron Rodgers pumped up. Both quarterbacks
played well in this game, maybe not quite what the
numbers would show in either case. Again another case of
Aaron Rodgers having multiple dropped interceptions, but he still played
very well. Aaron Rodgers did exactly Jets Aaron Rodgers. Just

(18:26):
no one watched Jets Aaron Rodgers and they thought he's
stunk like he's a very still quarterback.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, I ain't. He made enough throws in this game.
He looked fantastic at times. You know, I definitely think
every quarterbacks that they make mistakes. Sometimes you do need
the luck. But I thought he played really well. I agree.
I thought he did a lot of really good stuff.
I thought he was really on time with a lot
of his throws. I thought he connected with DK Metcalf,
Calvin Austin really well. I thought there was good stuff there.

(18:52):
And yeah, I think he is going to be a
capable quarterback this season. Whether they can continue to put
up thirty four points a game remains to be seen.
But at least in Week one, they didn't enough to
win this game, and that group looked really good. So yeah,
I mean. The funny thing is like, if it wasn't
for that Sunday night game, we would be talking about
this as the quarterback dull of the week, like Justin

(19:12):
Fields and Aaron Rodgers facing their former teams for a
season and they went head to head and it was
a fun game. I mean it was very This was
This was the most entertaining game of the early sleep
by far.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, this is the This was the feel good game
of the of the week, right, both fans, both teams
feel happy about how they performed in this, even if
the Jets couldn't get the victory, because like, hey, like
Fields looked really good, Like they have an offense kind
of built around in Brice Hall. I had kind of
given up on he played well in this game, Like
you know, you you had a lot of good stuff here.

(19:47):
I guess neither team is thrown about their defensive performances,
I suppose, but like, uh, you know, this was a
very very fun matchup. Yeah. I mean again, I had
the fewers of the playoff team. I kind of still
fe well that way as a wild card team. I
don't know this Jets team. Again, the hope was could
they be like the early Dan Campbell Lions of just

(20:08):
like scrappy keep you in games like Week one, check Kyle.
They were trying to kill people out there. I mean,
this was the most violent team I've ever seen play football.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah. No, there is definitely some fun parts about this
Jets team. Like he said, they play physical. I think
they definitely have an identity. They have a pretty good
offensive line. They have a really excellent, creative running quarterback
at times, and they have a good running back, and
they even have depth. I still like Braylan Allen even
though he got six carries in this game or whatever,
So you know, they have things that they can go

(20:38):
to for sure, and Garrett Wilson on the outside, who
had a good game. I do want to see what
happens when teams like adjust to it, like you had
all off season to basically prepare for Pittsburgh's defense, which
felt feels like it hasn't changed in like fifty years.
You know, runs the same scheme, it feels like forever,

(21:00):
like you had all off season prepare for that and
nobody had seen your offense at all or what it
looks like with this group. So we'll see how it
would adjusts. His teams make adjustment. But they checked all
the boxes, and I would say, if you were if
we were going to overreact to this game, this just
team looks much better than we thought they were going
to be preseason. So do I think they're a playoff

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team all of a sudden. I don't know about that.
We'll see, but they're at least a lot more competitive
and a lot more much there. Look like they're going
to be a much tougher out than we expected.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, there was a really interesting sequence with Jayleen Ramsey
with the Steelers of he hit fields kind of late,
not late. It was I legal play, but like it
was a big hit, and so some Jets offensive inmen
took up such exception to it. A little bit later on,
on the very next play, Jets were just running out
the clock. They sent two guys to block Jillen Ramsey,

(21:53):
almost seeming like a bit of a like like, you know,
don't mess up our quarterback type of move. Jayleen rams
one of those guys with Gear Wilson and Ramsey got
into it, and then at the end of the game,
Ramsey made the big hit on Garrett Wilson to knock
the ball loose and win the game. So that was
kind of a fun storyline.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Listen, Jalen Ramsey is kind of a
pain in the ass like, he definitely is not going
to be someone that makes a lot of friends out there,
but he's also a good football player, and like I
do think that was the underrated aspect of that trade
that I think they upgraded their secondary form Miking Fitzpatrick.
And it wasn't all perfect today. Like you said, Fields
had a pretty good throwing day too. He is almost

(22:32):
ten yards per attempt. I mean nine point ninety basically
was ten yards per attempt. So really good day all around.
But Ramsey was able to come up with the biggest
play at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, both guys kind of had a few of those
throw at four yards and then your receiver takes it
fifty type of plays. But again, they both still played
well in the offensive playball, so maybe room for that
in the future. Really excited to see what these two
teams do from here. Let's move on, Kyle, from the
feel good game of the week to the what the

(23:01):
hell game of the week. Let's go to the Miami
Dolphins taking on the Indianapolis Colts. Uh, what in the
world cale when we said we wanted the Miami Dolphins
to start playing the same way in September as they
do in January. This isn't what we meant.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, this looked like a cold weather game. Yeah for Miami,
this was tough. Uh QBR do you have do you
have a guest to us QBR number for today?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's got to be like three two point seven. I
overshot it too hot.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Uh, it wasn't great. He struggled and then Zach Wilson
came in and had like four yards per attempt, Like yeah,
I mean, look, there is So there was all this
conversation about Miami and the off season on is this
team going to be? Is this team going to implode?
You know that felt like the theme is like people

(23:53):
were waiting for this to kind of tank and end unceremoniously.
And you know, they obviously have some weaknesses on the
offensive line that are a bit of an issue. You
could look at this game and they have some weaknesses
on defense. I think this year too, because they've lost
Javon Holland and they lost Jalen Ramsey, who are both
big time players. So you lose those two guys, you
have issues on your offensive line, You're generally going to

(24:16):
get worse. However, I was still kind of the belief,
like Okay, they have Dave on a Chan, they have
Tyreek Hill, they have Jaylen Waddle. When two is healthy,
he does throw the ball pretty well. I still want
to give this team a chance to Like, I don't
think this is going to be a total disaster, even
if I'm not picking this team to make the playoffs
or anything. And this was a total disaster. I mean,

(24:37):
they look bad. Not to say they can't get better,
not to say that you know they are imploding, but
this looks like it's a long way to go. And
I think this defense is bad. Uh. And if you're
gonna put the ball in your your own territory with
turnovers over and over again, it's going to look even worse.
And yeah, they had they had a lot of issues
in this game.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean two, it was just awful. Like this is
the worst two I've ever seen to a play like
I legitimately like, I think, I don't think he had
a game. I guess what there was a I think
a game against Titans like a year two maybe where
he was awful since Mike McDaniel got here. This is
easily the worst he's played. I mean, he was missing
open guys, he was throwing directly to defenders. I don't
like he's supposed to be. He's like, I don't understand

(25:20):
what happened. Like Tua is not a bad quarterback at
reading the field and throwing over the middle, that's like
his strength. I don't get how he it'd be like,
I don't get this, what what what happened here? I
just it's one of the most baffling things I've seen.
I mean, give the Colds defense credit of course, but like,
but still like to has played good defenses that hasn't
done this before.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, and you can't even say it's like new weapons,
he's working with, new play caller or anything like, Yeah,
outside the offensive line, most of this stuff is the same.
So yeah, I think it's a it was a weird game.
You know, maybe we could just write it off. In
six weeks from now we're saying, no, Miami is just
kind of like a solid football team. But yeah, I
think they they they have a lot of searching, it

(26:00):
feels like to do even after Week one, which is surprising.
But the other side of this is that you know,
this Colts team we talked about in the off season,
like there were a couple of plays away from potentially
making the playoffs last season or being in that conversation,
and they had bad quarterback play and I don't know
if Daniel Jones is gonna have a nine yards per
attempt eighty seven QBR rating QBR the entire season. But man,

(26:24):
did he look good today, Like for everything we just
said about how awful to it was Daniel Jones, I
mean he put the dimes in Danny dimes today, Like
he had some fantastic throws in this game.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, he was very good. Yeah, did a great job
at running the offense, doing the simple stuff, which you
kind of talked about. It is like I think in
the previews, we're like, could this be a Sam Darneld situation,
Like like going from a horrible situation to a good situation,
being able to run the offense. Maybe you're not gonna
like turn into an MVP, but like, you know, play well.

(26:56):
He made a couple of nice throws as well. On
top of this, again, I think one of those games
that people are probably going a bit more crazy than
they should. But also like he did play very well
and did a lot of nice things. And the stat
that is just like the most baffling stat ever of
red Zone brought this up that like, this is the
first time in like over thirty years that a team

(27:20):
has scored on every possession of the game, because it's
happened a couple times where a team has kneeled down
in the final possession. But they didn't kneel down either,
So this was, you know, a perfect game for Danny Dimes.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Which is funny because like they did only score thirty
three in that case, but no, yeah, seven possessions, Yeah,
it was a fast moving game with all those turnoffs
is even more surprising. But no, they ran. I mean
they ran for one hundred and fifty six yards. I
mean like they did a lot of good stuff there
and then like you said, it was the simple stuff.
And then when they were ready to take their shots

(27:52):
down the field, he hit Michael Pittman for that touchdown.
He had a great throw to Alec Pierce on the
sideline too, Pierce's only catch of the day. And then
Tyler Lauren looks like everything you want, that rookie tight end.
I thought he was fantastic in this game where you
say you want to take the easy stuff, you have
that security blanket in Tyler Warren underneath making plays.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, good stuff. I call that that's fun. Especially again,
people were talking about the Colts as though they were
gonna be a first overall pick once they announced Danny
Danny Dimes is gonna start for them, which I just
it was kind of crazy, like like no, this is
like this was a pretty clear ceiling for this team,
Broncos Colts. Next week. I just feel like that Thursday
night game against those two teams, I can't get excited

(28:33):
for that game no matter what. I don't care how
good those teams are. They're actually that should be a
good game, but just that one Thursday game was so bad.
I just stue those two teams. I'm not excited next week.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
That's probably fair just to it's like PTSD essentially, but no,
I mean like, yeah, that it's definitely an interesting matchup.
So you know, he is going from whatever this defense
he was face he faced week one. He's going to
the Broncos defense and that that might be the Bolar opposites.
That's gonna be a fun matchup.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it's always hard week one, like, Okay, was this
a great performance or does that other team just think
let's go to Raiders Patriots. They didn't bring that up
for any reason, Kyle, go ahead, take the floor.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh boy, All right, Well, kind of an interesting game overall.
You know, the Raiders go out and score on the
opening drive, and I think the Patriots basically went three. Now,
they didn't do much there, and then it felt like
for the rest of the first half the Raiders looked
like they were gonna go down and score again. Gino
does make a bad throw I think there because it

(29:33):
was deflected like some bad luck on the interception aspect,
but it was also not open. There was also multiple
guys around. The receiver is trying to throw too, so
it would have been a miracle to make that play
ends up in an interception. And then all of a sudden,
the rest of the first half, it just feels like
the Patriots are in control. However, they missed a field goal.
They missed a forty forty yard field goal, which, by

(29:55):
the way, if you're a kicker, and yeah, I know,
I do the anti kicker thing all the time. If
you're a kicker and it's your first NFL game, you
got drafted as a kicker, and you're wearing EyeBlack in
an arm sleeve, you better make all your freaking kicks. Yeah,
do not miss a forty yar field goal. That's my opinion. Anyway,
we move on. So he missed the first field goal,

(30:15):
We get another stop though, we make the second field goal,
we go up ten to seven, get another stop, and
all of a sudden, it looks like, oh, we get
the ball back with it. It was like a minute
and a half left, and it's like, oh, we could
actually be in like huge control of this game, and
they just felt so they opened the drive with the
Drake May scramble, don't get the first down, have to
pun at the end of the half, and it just

(30:37):
felt like a game we were in control of going
into the half. We're up ten to seven, and then
everything flipped in the second half. I think Drake May
really struggled in the second half. I think the defense
really struggled in the second half. But I think the
Raiders also made a lot of adjustments and Gino Smith
was so so good in the second half of this game,
making some big time plays, including the game clinching pass
down the field, which you know it was a bust

(30:58):
of coverage, but it was also a throw on the
run down the field that was fantastic. So I thought
he looked really good. Myers and Bowers looked really good.
Gen T still has some work to do, but he
just has this inate ability to fall forward every time,
which was impressive. At least that's at least the building
blocks of something Raiders offense is going to be good.
I was impressed with that. In the second half of

(31:19):
what they did.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, I know, brock Bauers got banged up a bit.
That's kind of I believe it's not supposed to be
too serious, but hopefully it's it's, you know, no no
issues whatsoever. But yeah, that is another thing to keep
an eye on, Kyle. So I know, you know, usually
I don't watch too much of the Patriots stop before
we get into the podcast, just because like, there's so
much to watch. I don't have I only have so

(31:41):
much time. I know you're gonna be paying attention. Uh So,
like Ashton Genty and ending up with two yards per Cary,
I think I saw several highlights from him. How did
he look in this game?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean it was loaded boxes they were playing.
They play a physical front, and I think the front
three for the Patriots actually did pretty well in this game.
And win on the inside. So there wasn't a lot
of opportunities from in this game. Like I said, I
do think he had the ability to fall forward in
a lot of situations where they needed tough yards, and
I thought that was still somewhat important even if it
wasn't the best day. But yeah, he didn't make a

(32:13):
whole lot of guys missing this game. I think there's
still gonna be some growing pains there, but you still
see the promise. I did come away from this game
pretty excited. From that Patriots front seven, I thought they
looked really good. I thought they played the run really well.
You had two and a half Harold Landry sacks in
this game. Chase on got involved. I thought, you know,
this is a group without like an elite pass rusher,

(32:35):
but it just feels like there's four or five guys
on this roster pass rush wise that are going to
get involved. Between that and the front seven, I thought
they did good in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
The question I have to ask the Drake may think Kyle.
We had debates this offseason about I liked some of
what Drake Mays did his rookie season, but I also
have some concern you were a lot higher on him.
How did he look in this game?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Uh? Yeah, I mean they did the same thing. I
felt like it was it looked a lot like last
year at times where I thought at times there was
the stretch in the first half where I thought we
looked really good. I thought he played really well in
those situations. We were also ahead in the sticks in
a lot of those situations. He him and Kaishan Boute
looked really good. Hunter Henry looked good. Stefan Diggs at

(33:18):
that stretch looked good. And the second half it felt
like he made a mistake and then all of a sudden,
it just felt like it was in his head. The
rest of the game. He sailed the one pass that
led to the interception, and then all of a sudden,
it's like two or three throws in a row were
really sailed. And there are some issues there, and yeah,
I think, you know, we still would like some more
dynamic players in the offense. I think that's a bigger issue.

(33:40):
But like, yeah, I think the second half really showed
some growing pains in showed that he's a young player
that needs to get better.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Gotcha, Well, yeah, shout out to the Raiders. Though huge
win for them trying to try to make the playoff
this season. Very fun, Kyle. Every team in the AFC
West one except the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, when's the last time they've been in sole possession
of last place?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's probably it's probably been a band. I think maybe
some of those like Jamal Charles Ears.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, maybe, but yeah, it was, I mean it was,
it wasn't you know, just to say the Ravens part
Raiders part. I do think they look very good offensively,
Like I said, I thought Gina was fantastic in this game,
especially in the second half when they made some adjustments.
Him and Myers really made some big plays. The defense
I thought really came in life too, Like they flew
around to the ball. They had a what's the safety's

(34:29):
name that I'm trying to blank on u pol Mau.
He made some really big plays in this game. I
came away impressed with him. But yeah, I think that
they're they They look good in spots, so we'll see
how it continues to develop.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Also, I see Devin White was the leading tackler for
the Raiders. Was what was he doing there?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
He made a few plays he did, Okay, I don't
I don't know about long term what it's going to
look like. But he made a few plays.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Okay, I wonder if that was one of the leading
the team and tackles because you're playing well or playing poorly,
because sometimes it's it can go either way.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
He definitely was getting targeted in the past game that
hasn't changed. I also think he made it. He also
made a few good plays, so I do want to
give him some credit.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I'm rooting for him. I liked I liked Devin White.
The person is like one of the coolest guys. Uh
this has ever played for my team. It just it
sucks that he forgot how to play football.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he just uh yeah, he still struggles
in coverage. That's not still not new.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, well Kyle, let's move on. Let's go to my team.
Uh touched on it, so why not? Yeah? Crazy game here.
As first, the Buccaneers get up to a very slow start,
back to back three and outs. Uh, Atlanta has a
you know, Bijon Robinson has like a fifty yard completion
and you're thinking, like, oh no, what's gonna happen? Then
I fuck the you know switch flip. Buccaneers looked at

(35:45):
the Buccaneers. They were kind of uh, you know, I
don't want to say dominating, but playing very well. It
looked like they were maybe gonna run away with it.
They had a situation up for where Katten gets wide
open down the field, but theyer thought he was going
to see the blow and coverage and run further down
the field and said Outon finishes his route. They're not

(36:06):
on the same page. It's incomplete. Instead, would have put
them up eleven points. And then this crazy final drive
with multiple roughing the passer penalties. It takes like seven
plays inside the five, but Michael Penix Junior has a
play where he reaches out to the goal line very
similar to that Indiana play from back in the day.
He's able to unfourth down and goal get the touchdown

(36:28):
to go ahead, but there was still about two minutes left.
Baker mayfield to Mecca Agbuca Freddy go ahead touchdown. The
Falcons then are able to get back down the field
because there was a miss extra point. There's still they're
down just three points instead of four, and then Young
Waiku misses the game tying field Goalder's actually played right
before that. What it looked like the Falcons were about

(36:50):
to score a touchdown. Anthon Wayfield made a great play
to break up the pass right before then. So this
was just an insane ending to a game. Kyle, I was,
I was on My heart rate was unhealthy levels during
the end of this one.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, they that was pretty bonkers for sure, come out
the wire. You know, the Falcons put themselves in a
good position to win this game, for sure. And I
thought Penix played really well. I thought he was really
good in this game. And you know, he did have
a cup. He was another one. He had a couple

(37:23):
lucky plays in this game as well. But for the most.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Part, like yeah, there was like there were like six
dropped interceptions in this game.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Baker really struggled in the first half of this game.
I thought he came around and then like came alive.
But like I thought, he really struggled in the first
half where Penis was kind of dealing early, but then
you know, missed a few throws. But for the most part,
like yeah, I enjoy watching both of these teams so far. Like,
I think this offense with Pennix looks a lot more dynamic.
I would like more b Jhon Robinson touches in the backfield,

(37:52):
but he still finds ways to get involved in games,
catching the ball, doing all this different stuff, so you know,
you can't complain about it too much. But yeah, I
think that both these teams look like the class of
the NFC South right now, which isn't surprising based on
the other two teams.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Hi praise. Yeah, you know, somehow the Saints don't even
look like the worst team in the NFC South right now.
But we'll get there. Sorry to Michael if you're in
the chat, but yeah, I mean the you know, okay,
a lot to go over. I think that the you know,
the Bejon Robinson point of like, the Bucks did do

(38:26):
a very good job at stopping the Rod and it's
kind of why it's always been a bit of a
tough matchup bigger Mayfield. He did two things really well.
The the scrambling is still something that's a very good
part of his game. There were several key third downs
and he was able to pick up of his legs
that were in many ways the difference in this game.
And then also the final drive, like that was basically
the two things he did well. He scrambled well throughout

(38:48):
the game and he was perfect in the final drive,
did not have his best game. You're right, he you know,
got very lucky to end up with no turnovers in
this in this football game. Also, Bucks offensive line missing
Tristan Wurfs. They kind of surprisingly heading into this game,
essentially shifted three different offensive linemen around to make up
for that, which is not what I thought was gonna happen.

(39:10):
And like it didn't look great. They weren't able to
get much push in the run game, like they need
Tristan Worf's back. So those are kind of some things
that we will keep a pin in. But uh liked
Buka Hey Jason lit nose receivers.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, he did a really good job,
and I mean he's the reason they won this game.
He had two big catches, so yeah, I mean they're
missing two guys right now. Buka slass right in and
he looks like he's gonna be here for a while,
So that was really good. I thought Bucky Irving had
some big plays in this game, even though his overall
stats aren't like overly impressive. I thought he just had

(39:45):
some really clutch plays at the end of this one.
And then you know, you mentioned that Tampa Bay offensive line,
which is still my concern about Atlanta. One sack and
three quarterback hits with that depleted offensive line missing its
best player. I still feel like that's just a bit
of an issue for and I still came away from
this game thing and that's an issue, So that is

(40:05):
definitely a thing for me. But I do think their
secondary looked really good. Xavier Watts, I thought had a
pretty decent day for his first game against this offense.
You know, you have Jesse Bates, AJ Terrell played a
lot better I thought in this game too. That is
something to at least look forward to. You have that secondary,
you have this passing game, you have Jon Robinson and Algier.
You know, maybe this Atlanta team is going to be

(40:26):
a little more competitive than we think.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, I came wait very impressive Atlanta, I did. I
thought Michael Panks played very well. A little Brookie mistakes
early on, but down the stretch he was fantastic. And
you know, and I think the defense looked a lot
better than I was expecting as well. So part of
why I'm happy we got the win is because it
would be tough. You know, it seems like twice last year.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
So you're already up won from last.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right, thanks for bringing that up. Let's move on, Kyle.
Let's go Bengals Browns. Kyle, I had this take almost nailed.
I said, the Browns We're gonna win. I was so
ready for I thought I had it. And a miss
extra point in a miss field goal was the difference.
Joe Burrow somehow ends up with just one hundred and
thirteen yards in this football game after a great start.

(41:11):
The Bengals offensive line just could not get anything going
against this Browns defensive line, which is again part of
why I picked the Browns to win the game. I mean, like,
there's only so much you can do. The issues just
the Browns have no explosive playmakers whatsoever. So it's like
they need to they need to get first downs by
getting four yards four yards in three yards every like

(41:33):
every three plays, or they're not going to get the
first down. So, like, you know, that was kind of
the issue. But and even both of the interceptions in
this game were like Browns receivers actively like catching the
ball and tossing it right to a Bengals defender Like
this was just this was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah, I do like both the rookies. I will say
that I like Samson and Harold Fannon, but those are
also aren't like explosive play guys. It's right end up
running back, catching the ball backfield, and it's not like
a Darren Sproles thing. Like they're both good though. I
like that. I like that, you know, just a wacky game.
And like you said, I mean, I don't even know

(42:10):
how to judge it, because we should be giving at
least the Bengals did win this game, like we should
say that, like they.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Did, hey better than previous week ones.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, that is that is better than previous week ones.
But like, by god, did they try and lose this
game so hard? And they should have lost this game.
So I don't know what to think of this. This
defense is still a disaster. A lot of the young
players still just aren't working out. For me, the offense
will be fine. I'm not worried about that. I will
say I here's my other Week one one of my

(42:41):
other Week one over reactions. I think I only had
one so far. This is a true Week one overreaction.
I might be ready to send Miles Garrett the Defensive
Player of the.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Year award now interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yet he was amazing. He's amazing player on the field. Yeah,
two sacks, four tackles for lots three quarterback kids. I mean,
you could have told me he had seventeen sacks in
this game and I probably would have believed it. He
just felt like he was in Joe Burrows ass the
entire game. Yeah, no, just crazy. He was just all

(43:11):
over the place, like, yeah, he's the best defensive player
in the world. Like that was amazing. I thought he was.
He was the best player in this game, and he
almost helped his team win it and they should have.
So frustrating game for sure, Bengals. I guess defense you
could say did come up with a couple turnovers, so cool,

(43:32):
But I just I don't know, man, we'll see what this.
I'm gonna get this team another week. But like they
did win, but I don't know, it's embarrassingly bad at times.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean this is this was not what
you like. Again, I think you said, like if the
Browns win this game, like just like stick of organ
ender done, like Bengals, it's over and like it was
a chip shot field goal miss and an extra point miss.
That is difference in this game, Like This is like
special teams that had no no credit to the Bengals whatsoever.

(44:07):
Was the reason why the Bengals beat a team that
many people are thinking might end up with the worst
record in football this year.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, and they still probably will. Honestly, do you think
this guy gets cut rookie kicker?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I mean, I don't know, sure, whatever, Why do we
need to spend time on that.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, probably probably not. But I love breaking down kickers
when they lose their.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Guys my thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Uh, rough, Hey,
you got to win. He played Jacksonville next week, kind
of got to win that game. It feels like as well.
I don't know if I wonder who's gonna be favorite
in that game. But anyway, let's move on. Let's plow
ahead here, Kyle. This was a good game Niner Seahawks.

(44:54):
This was a game that, again, it was just kind
of a sloppy football game. Brock Purdy was not playing well.
In fact, this is one of the worst like three
quarters we've seen from Rock Purty multiple picks. But then
you know, the Seahawks are in a situation. It's fourth
and one at around a twenty yard line with still
a little bit of time left, they elect to kick
the go ahead field goal, trust their defense to get

(45:16):
a stop, especially because the Fos another team with special
teams issues. Jake Moody had missed two field goals, one
of those was blocked. But with special teams issues, you're thinking, hey,
what are the odds of them getting a field goal
or they didn't get a field goal. Brock Perty gets
a touchdown drive going with just a jump ball to

(45:36):
Jake tong just who is in the game as a
backup because of a George Kittle injury. Purty just like
throws up a jump ball to him. He makes it work,
gets to go ahead touchdown. Sam Darnold gets a shot
with a little bit of time left. He drives down
the field, gets them inside a ten yard line, but
then fumbles on a Nick Bosa strip sack and he
actually recovered to fumble himself as well. Yeah, crazy game.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Crazy game. Indeed, that throw was awful for the game.
Touchdown that looks like it should have been easily intercepted. Yeah,
so I mean kind of crazy down to the wire
and then, like you said, the Seahawks have an opportunity
to win it and fumble at the end. From San Donald.
There so kind of an interesting game overall, and then, like,

(46:24):
like you said, George Kittle gets hurt in this game,
that played a part in it, and this forty nine
ers offense looks like it might have some issues even though,
like you know, Christian McCaffrey did play really well in
this game. I thought Ricky Pearsall had a couple of
big catches. That was kind of the gist of it.
But like overall, yeah, I came away I feel like
I kind of nailed both of these teams in the offseason.

(46:44):
Like I think San Francisco is an okay team that
has a few really good players, and it's going to
struggle outside of those really good players, which they did
when George Kittle went out. And then yeah, I think
that the Seahawks defense can win them a lot of
football games. I think this is a really good defense
that had opportunities to win this seven tackles for loss.
They were in the San Francisco backfield a lot of

(47:04):
the game. But you know, I came away this game
still having concerns about this offense going forward. I thought
Same Donald had a few good throws. I don't think
he was a disaster by any means, But this feels like,
you know, I guess I'll say this feels like a
game Geno Smith would have won, and it really does.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Maybe, Yeah, I mean I didn't think Donald was. I mean,
for a while I was gonna say, like, hey, there
between Donald and I thought the Sea, How're gonna win?
I was like, hey, like Donald didn't play great, but like,
at least he didn't make the big mistake. At least
he was able to, you know, keep things going and
even at the end there it's like he's when they
open up the offense, like he's able to actually do
some stuff and then to fumble at the end, which

(47:43):
is kind of all you know, been part of one
of the issues of Famous taking sacks and losing the
football sometimes when that happened. But I mean, like one
of my issues with the Seahawks was that they were
two Jackson Smith and Jigbaw dependent. Well, I expect this,
I'd be one hundred and fifty yards that and Donald
had passing one hundred and twenty four of those were
to Jackson, Smiffin Jig. But I mean that's they need

(48:05):
a more complete offense if this is going to go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, he had nine of their sixteen catches, one hundred
and twenty four of the one hundred and fifty yards,
and he felt even more impactful than that. So, uh,
he's a really good player. I continue to say it.
I thought he was sick last year. I think he's
a really really good player. And we saw last year
too with Sam Donald, like he likes his guys, like
when he finds when he finds his go to target,

(48:29):
he's going to use that. It's kind of like the
you know, it's like playing Super Smash Bros. And just
hitting the same button over and over again. You know,
all those Kirby Maines just doing the brick thing. You know,
that's basically Sam Donald playing football. So he's going to
keep using Jackson Smith and Jigma until they double triple
team and then I'll go somewhere else, I guess. But
he had a really good game in this game. But yeah,
this team, this offense needs some help.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah they do. This is I don't disagree that this
is you know, uh could have been could have been
a good Geno Smith game. But Donald also younger, so
you know we'll see it's weak one. But but yeah,
a huge win for the forty nine ers, if they're
gonna try and make the playoffs, I think that they
need Brandon a youth back. That's kind of like, that's
that's where I'm out with them right now.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, that makes the team makes a lot more sense
with Kittle and Ayuka on the field, right, Like everything
kind of falls into place a little bit easier, and
then all of a sudden you can say, let's get
this team rolling then, because those are both really impactful players.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, Uh, let's move on. Let's go to Texans Rams.
This is the uh, you know another I mean, it's
a really good game. It looked for a second like
the Texans were going to pull this off. I mean
they obviously they were not looking great offensively, but they
get the ball in the Rams territory with you know,
thanks to a roughing the passer penalty. Uh, they start

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to move the ball and then a fumble Rams recover
on a third down, they decide to pass it. Matthew
Stafford gets the conversion there. I mean, Rams defense played well, Uh,
Texans defense played well. Both defenses showed up in this game.
But Stafford made the plays when he had to and
also just just just Texans offense continues to look uninspiring.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Uninspiring. Indeed, I don't know about how I feel about
Daryu Agomba Wallee being in the games at the end
of it, Yeah, that just feels like something that shouldn't
happen personnel wise, but you know, sometimes things happened and
he has a pass catching back, so I get it.
But like, I don't know, that just felt like a
weird decision overall. And yeah, I just this team does

(50:34):
lack a little bit of explosiveness for me, like I think,
I mean, look, CJ. Strad hat was nineteen to twenty
seven in this game. How many different receivers caught a
past Nobody caught more than four, And it's just like
they spread the ball around. There's not really a go
to target right now, and it should be Nico Collins,
but they defended him well and they don't really have
that option. B it feels like right now without him,

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And that was that was probably my concern with this
Texans team going into this season, among other things. You know,
I think I still think the offensive line has some
issues and the number two receiver I think needs to
step up. I think Jayden Higgins had some moments, but
like it's going to be asked a lot to ask
a rookie to step into that situation where you know,
you look at the Rams and they they had their

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clear you know, powerful, they have their guys like is
really good in this game. DeVante Adams had his moments.
Kyraen Williams is involved too, and like those are the
guys they're gonna they're gonna use and everything works off
of that.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, it's it's you know, uh that that's an issue,
especially when it's also you know it's a divisional game
and turnover battle. Uh, you know both teams had a
fumble loss. Uh Shoud had the interception, Like that's that's
kind of that could be the difference in these tight games. Again,
they were right there, like they this was a game
that it was very winnable. But yeah, disappointing. Disappointing loss

(51:56):
for them to playing Tampa Bay on Monday Night Football
next week. I am I do feel like, Okay, this
team has a really good pass rush that should be
able to do some you know good there to good defense,
but they just need to I mean, they need to
figure out what's going on offensively. I mean, this is
so bizarre. This was a team that we thought of
like two years ago. This offense just gonna get better
and better, and it's completely you know, I mean this,

(52:17):
this is not a The three MS defense is good.
They should have been able to pass like Nico Collins
should be able to have more than twenty five yards,
like you should be able to scheme him up some plays,
get the ball in his hands to some degree. Shout
threw twenty seven times. It's not like he didn't throw much,
Like that's just three catches. When Shout throws twenty seven times,
just can't have.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I think the offensive line
still plays a part in this, where you know, the
the Laramie Tunzel thing, you know, it was talked about,
but like you still just can't have three sacks and
seven quarterback kids. You know, you got to keep them
up right, you got to give them a chance there.
I think that is a huge part of it. And
like you said, I think both of these defenses are
also just really good and we're ready to play Week one.

(52:59):
Like this was kind of the sleepy game of the
afternoon in a lot of ways, but at the same time,
like these two teams are good. I expect both of
these teams to make the playoffs and they definitely have
a chance to. And yeah, I came away. I still
came away pretty impressed with this Rams defense in the
front seven.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah I did as well. Let's move on, let's go
to another late game, and then I think we'll get
into the Thursday and Friday night games soon after. We
still have six games left. But Titans Broncos, this was
an ugly game. This was actually kind of a sneaky
fun game to watch though, Like I was, I don't know,
I enjoy ugly games. I enjoyed this one. Cam Wore

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definitely looked like a rookie out there, especially if like
some of the sacks and things of that nature. Bo
Nicks turned the ball over multiple times in this game.
In fact, the Broncos ended up turning the ball over
four times in this one. Titans had two turnovers of
their own, so a lot of that going on. Ultimately,
the Bronco's defense looked fantastic in this game. And and

(54:03):
Bonicks needs to clean up what happened under five yards
p attempt, one touchdown, two interceptions. You need to clean
that up. Maybe Titan's defense should up too. Give him credit,
but like you know, defense is weird. Sometimes a defense
that on paper you're you're looking at it's not very good,
ends up being very good. That's kind of maybe what
Tennessee's could be this year. But uh, you know, Broncos
need to clean up their offense. Good news years their

(54:25):
defense looks as advertised.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yeah, and you can even argue with this Tennessee defense, like,
this was a group that we thought like they had
invested in. We thought it could be better than what
it was last season, So it's not necessarily surprising that
they played a little bit better. I like Bonicks. I
thought he played well year one. I don't need to
see him like and it seemed like there was a
big emphasis on using his athleticism even more scripted this

(54:48):
year and doing different things and getting him out of
the pocket. I don't need to see Bonnicks like throwing
sidearm and like off his back foot this much like
you know, figure out bitter situations. I think for Bonicks
that's for the ball. He also has to make better throws,
but yeah, I think that was a big part of it.
I thought they ran the ball really effectively. Though in
this game, Dobbins and R. J. Howardy looked like a

(55:08):
really fun duo compared to what they had last year.
So I do think there are still some takeaways from
Denver to be optimistic, even on the offense of the ball.
Like you said, you just got to clean up some
of this stuff. But yeah, the big story of this
game was the defense was awesome. Man. I feel bad
for cam Ward, like, this is not the kind of
team I would want a rookie quarterback to make his
first NFL start against. It's not fair, but he struggled.

(55:32):
He took some rookie sacks in this game, I thought too.
Just a lot of mistakes as far as holding the
ball too long. But yeah, this Denver defense is no Joe.
They looked ready to play Week one and looked like
the best unit in the league.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, there's a point when I think it was the
third quarter where they were down thirteen to twelve and
at the twenty and Camboard has said a two to
ten yard sacks and this pumped out of field goal range.
I will say as well, a lot of drop passes.
Calvin Ridley had a couple of key drop passes in
this game, like honest like he had a chance to
come back and win, and like his receivers couldn't make
the play. So you know, hopefully that can get cleaned

(56:06):
up as well. But you know, the book is still
getting written on camp Ward. It's not that much. Like
his performance was not worse than Bonnickx's Week one performance
last year, like Bonnicks took a few weeks to get going.
It's you know, it is what it is. But but yeah,
I think you're maybe hoping for a little more if
you were Titans fan.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, yeah, I honestly think that him not having a
turnover until that like last desperation play was kind of
a miracle in itself. Like that almost feels like a
win for me that he didn't turn the ball over
like four or five times in this game.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, Like I do think he was smart with the football, Like,
like I said, he's got to eliminate the sacks, he's
got to be a little more decisive at times. But
like he also wasn't throwing himself into mistakes, which I
also think is an important thing to build off of.
And he has talent, so we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, let's move on. Let's go to Let's go to
the primetime games from earlier in the week. Let's start
off with I guess let's just go onchnological order. Let's
start off with the raign and Champs winning the football game.
Ceedee Lamb had a couple of drops in this game
that if he makes those catches, they probably win. Also,

(57:15):
it was a dropped interception on a Ceedee Lamb on
a play where Seedy Lamb slipped that could have allowed
the game to be over a little Earlier for the Eagles,
there was you know, Jalen Carter spit on Dac Prescott
and there was their spitgate of who spit first and
all this stuff going on. Uh but uh yeah, I
mean it's George Pickens, clothes line the guy. This game
had everything. Kyle.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, if you're gonna say someone got ejected from this
game in the first play, was George Pickens like a
minus one thousand favor.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, one of the upsets of the century is that
he was not that player.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, kind of crazy. Yeah, I don't know. That was
a weird one, And I mean, honestly, it really really
changed my opinion on this Philadelphia defense, Like they looked
very helpless without Carter in the middle. I thought this
run defense really struggled, and I think the secondary has

(58:08):
its issues on its own, because like, like you said,
the Dak Prescott line does not look amazing. But I
thought Dak Prescott played a lot better than what his
line suggests. I thought his receiver, you know, those couple
of Seedey Lamb catches, puts them well over two hundred
yards and put some you know, I thought he had
a really good game overall. I thought this offense looked good,
and like I think I was just saying the Carter thing,

(58:29):
like you know, the Jordan Davis, the guys in the
middle there, I thought really struggled in this game. And
it's like, look, this could be a decent Dallas offensive line.
You know. The young guys I thought actually looked pretty
good in this game. But we have seen Javance Williams
and Miles Sanders for a number of years now. We
don't normally see that kind of performance from those guys,
Like they just they felt like they could move the ball,

(58:50):
however they wanted for stretches after the This game just
got wacky after that lightning away delay, and like I
don't really know what to tick away from that. But
for the two and a half quarters we did see
before that delay, I thought Dallas was kind of right
there with them.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
And honestly, like the Cowboys even after delay, It's not
the Eagles were like shutting them down. It was like
the drop passes like it was like a fumble like
it was like the Cowboys beating themselves tumble with before
the delay. But you get the idea, Yeah, this is
the perfect game to showcase that passing yards is a
very flawed stack because you know that had one hundred

(59:26):
and eighty eight. Jalen Hurts had one hundred and fifty two.
I thought both quarterbacks were great in this game, like
Jalen Hurts of his legs on key plays to you
know this, this was a game where guys weren't getting
opened consistently, which is maybe concerning because we didn't think
Dallas's defense would be great. Although a ton of time
for him to throw, and he was able to take
advantage of that with usually using his legs to scramble

(59:47):
and get stuff that way. I think I'm very much
in the it is week one, let's let the defense
gel a little bit more, because you know they have
almost like half of a new starting roster on the
d Like it's not crazy, Like it would be weird
if they were great right away. Last year they struggled
in the sal polo game against the Packers Week one

(01:00:07):
and eventually got going a little bit later on, Like
I wouldn't be you know, let's give it time here,
It's all all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I'll definitely give it time. Like they definitely deserve the
benefit of the doubt. I do think as far as
just the Eagles go, you know, when you talk super
Bowl contender or Super Bowl favorite, even because they did
win it last year, you know, I do think they
I am going to watch their secondary a little bit
more closely. Like I said, I thought Dak was great
in this game and Jalen was great in this game.

(01:00:35):
I agree with you, they were both really awesome. I
thought the secondary had a lot of mistakes, and like
you said, they caught the benefit of some draw passes.
I thought even Queenya Minchell really kind of struggled in
this game, but his other side with Jacorian Bennett and
O'dori Jackson was a bit of a mess. I thought
Zach Bond looked really good in the middle though, So yeah,

(01:00:55):
I think there are definitely some issues I'm looking at
with this Philadelphia defense and how it and how it
gets better. But they look good and they got the win,
and that's the most important thing. I think Jalen Hurts
looks like he's ready to go, and I think he's
due for a fantastic season. This Cowboy's defense is going
to be rough all year. And that's the takeaway from

(01:01:15):
the Micah Parsons trade. This defense is bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I'm a little The defense did step it up at
the end there. Again, we can say it's just a
delay or whatever, but they started stopping to Rod. I
thought their coverage unit was okay in this game. I
just think, like I'm not willing to go fully there yet,
only because the Eagles are really good at pass protecting
as well. Like I don't think Micah persions, I don't know.
It obviously would help the defense. I don't think anyone's

(01:01:40):
gonna argue that, But like, I don't know, I don't
expect this to be a great unit. But I thought
they at least did show some signs of life in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Oh yeah, I mean that's fair. They showed fight and
Deron Bland is still a really good player. But I mean,
I think one of the things we saw in this
game is like you don't have to throw a d
Ron Bland when he's out there, So I do think
that definitely helps the situation. So yeah, I think like

(01:02:08):
it'll be interesting to see, but yeah, it could definitely
get better for sure, But yeah, I think that they
there's a lot of holes still.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I think, yeah, started off horrible with the three straight
touchdowns and then a field goal, but yeah, very very
entertaining game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
This was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
I was complaining about Cowboys getting the Week one, you know,
the opening game, and it ends up being like an
awesome game. And that happened last time too, So maybe
I should just stop complaining, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Complain about the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
But then what do I do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, that's your whole.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Bit, My whole bit. I think I do other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
The only reason you have this channel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I hope there's at least for some other reasons. What
else we got Chief Chargers. The Chiefs lose to the
Los Angeles Chargers. I thought Patrick Mahomes was amazing in
this game with some of the plays he was making,
doing whatever he could keep his team in it. But
if a slow start with the you know Xavier Worthy injury. Kyle,

(01:03:05):
you kept saying he's gonna have a great year. He
dislocated his shoulder, so hopefully he won't be gone for
the whole year, but you know he's gonna miss some
time or Shehi Rice is already missing the first six weeks. Yeah,
I mean this is as good as Mahomes was. I
said this, but excellent got the year wrong. But Kyle,
the good news is it looks like twenty eighteen Patrick

(01:03:26):
Mahomes is back. The bad news is it also looks
like the twenty eighteen Chief Defense is back. Ope, do
we have Kyle? Did we lose Kyle?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Kyle seems to be frozen. Chat let me know if
this is Kyle or me. Sometimes I can't tell if
it's on my end or his end, So I'll just
kill some time real quick if it's assuming that it
is Kyle frozen. But yeah, I mean, okay, all right,
p Kyle, Well all just do some Oh no, Kyle's

(01:04:02):
completely gone now. I don't know what happened here with Kyle.
Kyle stunned by stunned by that take? What take? What was?
What did they say it was crazy, I don't know.
I mean, I thought the charge justin Herbert was fantastic
in this game, right, charges were consistently scheming guys open.
But the Chiefs defense was really not stopping much in
this game. I mean the Chargers and also anyone in

(01:04:24):
chat if you have any questions, you can answer it
as I am solo doing this now. But I really
didn't think the Chargers defense was or the Chiefs defense
was what you would want in this situation. Yes, there
were some good schemes, Yes, Herbert made some good plays.
There were also some wide open guys, and like, that's
not what we're used to seeing with the Kansas City

(01:04:46):
Chiefs defense. We're used to seeing the Kansas City Chiefs
be kind of a dominant defensive unit, and I don't
think we saw that. So, okay, do we have Kyle back? Yes,
Kyle you're back. Oh oh oh no, it looks like
it's frozen again. For a second we had Kyle. Still
know Kyle. But yeah, well we'll see how this goes. Okayle,

(01:05:11):
you're here. I can't hear you, okay, yeah, I can
see you, cannot hear you hear me? Okay, now I
can hear you. Oh, hang on one second, okay, all right, yes,

(01:05:31):
I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Okay, yeah, my internet just my entire house just like
went out of power for a second. And how about
the internet's out? So oh wait, we might be back here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Okay, I might be able to go. Yeah, okay, well here, Okay,
no worries. I'll just do the Chief Chargers a little
bit more. Again, anyone have any thoughts on the Chief Chargers.
Let me know in the comments below. I will in chat,
I will be you know, can talk about them. I
think the Chiefs. I think this is a bit concerning
for the Chiefs. Again, concerning for the Chiefs is different

(01:06:05):
than concerning for other people. Right. Uh, for many you
know teams, they'd love to have a performance like this.
But for the Chiefs, who were talking about them as
potential Super Bowl contenders, I do think you have to
look at this a little bit and say the receivers
weren't able to get open a lot they did not
block well. Uh, Travis Kelsey was still mad at Jowan Taylor.

(01:06:25):
He headbutted him like this is a you know, maybe
not what you were hoping for. Kyle, can you hear me?
Now it's everything good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Everything is good now. I guess that was weird. Everything
just died for a second then came back on. I
have good internet signal. I don't know what happened there,
but hey, I'm back. Let's talk Chief Chargers. What did
you say?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yes, I was, I was trying trying to feel time. Essentially,
my thought was was not impressed with the Chiefs defense.
I think Mahomes' sporting cast was not very good either.
Herbert was very good. Chargers x's and o's are very good.
Quentin Johnson was great in this game, as this lab
of Konki as all he's and also Tenan Allen showing
up all of a sudden, this receiving court doesn't look
so bad. And and you know, but I think the

(01:07:07):
thing for the Chiefs is like expectations are different for them,
like for them, if you know, losing in the AFC
Championship game is a horrible season for them, Like that's
other like franchises, like franchise highlights the so because of that,
like offensive line not blocking well, not getting open consistently,
with the exception of some well schemed up plays, and

(01:07:29):
some Mahomes magic defense not playing well like, the only
good thing about this game is that you still have
the real best quarterback in football, Patrick Mahomes still on
your team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Yeah, Mahomes was really really good in this game. He
was fantastic. And yeah, there's not much you can do though,
when this is your supporting cast at this point, because
down to receivers, you know what you get left to
Travis Kelcey. I mean, I even think Kelsey had played
a bad game. Like he had the one touchdown catch
which was like the busted coverage thing. It was a
good scheme play there, but he also had a late

(01:08:01):
play where he could have gotten into the end zone
potentially and like stopped on the route and it seemed
like a mistake. You know, Hollywood Brown had probably the
worst ten catch, ninety nine yard game I've ever seen
in my life. And Mahomes was you know, Mahomes had
more rushing double the rushing yards of any of the
running backs too, So like he was he was everything

(01:08:22):
on this team. The defense has some issues. I am
concerned about that. I'm not gonna overreact because I do
think things can get better, but like I also think
there's a talent efficiency right now, Like they need to
go make a trade if they don't get like Worthy back,
because this receiving room just does not look like it
right now. This offensive line still looks like it has
its issues. And this secondary, which you know we kind

(01:08:45):
of alluded to the offseason, probably wasn't as good as
what the numbers said last season. They looked bad in
this game. And Justin Herbert, you know, everything about how
amazing Patrick Mahomes was also should go to Justin Herbert
because Justin and Herbert was amazing in this game. He
absolutely diced them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Yeah, Herbert was fantastic. Are we buying into this Chargers
team a little bit as like I think we kind
of both. I forget where you had them. I had
them as a playoff team, but like a wildcard team,
maybe win a playoff game caliber? Are we are we
saying this could be a could they win the division
this year? I kind of think like maybe, Like I'm
still gonna pick the Chiefs because they're the Chiefs, But like,

(01:09:20):
I don't think it's I don't think it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, nothing's out of the question at this point. Like
I definitely think they can, but like I'm still picking
the Chiefs too. I agree and we'll see. Like, if
this consistent version of Justin Herbert not only can help
this team win the division, you can win an MVP
Award at this level. So yeah, I think that if
they get this version of him, this version of this

(01:09:44):
offense consistently, Yeah, I think they can win a lot
of football games because this defense is good. This defense
did show to be very good again in this game,
and I like what they're doing. Jim Harball is a
very good coach.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah. My last thought flip side though guys aren't getting opened,
are not blocking. The defense played horrible. They still almost won.
They lost but one score, and if it wasn't for
a third and fourteen conversion, maybe to Mahomes pulls this off.
Mahomes is very good. Mahomes just someone you have to
deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, he is, Like yeah, no, no, it's on that.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I mean, given in an offseason where somehow it's been
become a thing of like, is Mahomes still elite? Like
I think this showed like yes he is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean there was never an
argument that Mahomes is bad all of a sudden or anything.
It's just that I think that the second and third
quarterbacks have caught up to him, basically, and he still
showed that he can be that superman that they need.
In this game. They didn't get the win, but he
did everything he could make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, Kyle, let's do maybe a speed run here thirt
these last three we are getting late. Here is one
ten on the East Coast. Three games left. Let's talk
some balls. Giants taking on the Commanders. Really good performance
by the Commander's defense, which we did not say a
lot of last year. Sure was the Russell Wilson Giants

(01:11:06):
offense and it did not look good, but you know,
the Commander's defense still was able to make some plays,
which is nice to see. When they played bad offenses
last year, it still didn't look great. Like this is, uh,
you know, a good performance a year by the Commanders
defensively under offense did enough to get the work.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I really like this Commander's game. Like it wasn't perfect.
I think they still got some things to work out,
but they really got after the quarterback in this game,
and I was impressed with that. And you know, they
looked at this Giants defensive line, which is gonna be
a problem for a lot of teams. By the way,
this defensive line just has so many bodies that are
really talented. And I thought Brian Burns and Stretches looked

(01:11:44):
really good in this game. I mean he had two
sacks too, so like he was good. They were basically
just able to run on them, though they they managed
to make it work. They hadw hundred twenty yards six
point nine years per carry. There was a lot of
scramble action in that. But you also look at this
Jacory Krossky Merritt, who you know, became the fantasy darling
late in the fantasy drafts. He looked fantastic and he

(01:12:08):
had a couple of big plays. And you have him,
you have Jaden Daniels doing his thing. I mean, even
Austin Eckler at his age is still going to be
a pass catching running combination problem. Like, they managed to
just figure out the way to win the game, and
I was impressed with that. We'll see how this defense
looks against tougher competition, but they checked the boxes so far,
and I got to give him credit for that, so

(01:12:29):
good good win for the Commanders.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah. Uh, a few Molik Neighbors plays in this one.
They tried for a few more that was again like
that's our offense, let's just do it. We didn't see
a good camp scattaboo uh scattabo play, which was fun.
Are we starting getting to the is it Jackson Dart time?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I mean apparently like can they can? They can? I
got to give a commendment to Brian Daball because I
do think he's a solid coach, but he does take
the cake for being some times the most dramatic like coach.
Publicly we say we hate all the coach speak all
the time, Like he's already starting a quarterback controversy after
week one, So got to give him the credit for that.

(01:13:11):
In just like the vibes of this quarterback room all
preseason were immaculate, and he's immediately just basically saying Russell
Wilson's sting. So we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yeah, let's do all you do Cardinal stints. I'm gonna
go to bathroom real quick, so hopefully you have enough
time talk about Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
States, Cardinals, Saints. So we're talking about America's team, the
Arizona Cardinals playing New Orleans, which you know a lot
of people were saying was a team that could be
in contention for the number one pick and still probably are.
For being honest, this was a fine performance for the Cardinals.
They felt in control. They had seventeen points in the
first half and at one point it did feel like

(01:13:49):
they were gonna run away with it, but didn't play
that well in the second half. But overall, I just
think like they still get some things I think to
clean up. Offensively. McBride and Harrison looked very good in
this game. Trey Benson, even in the backfield, had a
very good game, and Kyler at times did look really good,
but just too many drives that stalled for me. And
maybe this New Orleans defense, which kept all of their guys,

(01:14:12):
is still going to be okay and still a bit
of a problem for teams, and that could be the takeaway.
But overall, I think this Cardinals offense should be a
little bit better. Their defense did look good in this game,
but I don't really know how to judge it against
this kind of offense. Because FRNCA Ratler, you know, I
think he could be a decent backup quarterback in the NFL.

(01:14:33):
I really do. But at the same time, like I
think he's a backup quarterback and he won the starting
job because Tyler Shuck couldn't win it, and he comes
in here and I think he made a couple of
good throws. It wasn't a complete disaster, but it's still
not something that like you're building towards the future with.
So I think there was a a few good moments
there for spent for the Cardinals. Overall, I thought the

(01:14:55):
defense showed some good stuff, but like I said, when
they play a better quarterback, I'll be a better judge
that the offense I think could have could have wiled
me a little bit more. But they covered the spread.
America's teams want to know. That's most important.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
I have a supersticker from Romeo, so appreciate that. Uh yeah,
I didn't catch any of it, but I'm assuming I
know the details of the Little Water album. But hey,
I win is a win.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah, essentially, Like like I said, I think there was
an opportunity for them to kind of blow this game
open and they just kind of didn't. And like I think,
Harrison and McBride are good players. But we'll see what
the rest of it looks like going forward.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah, let's move on. We have one more game left.
Panthers Jaguars. Kyle, I'm sure you have. You know I
was nice enough to not give you Panthers Jaguars, but
it went did bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Yeah, we were actually gonna go on lightning to light here.
We'll be back in an hour and a half to
finish the show, So everybody just sit tight. We'll be
right back. And no, this game was this was rough
like and obviously I checked out a little bit once
delay happened. But yeah, the Panthers offense suffered through a
lot of growing pants in this game. And we'll see

(01:16:07):
how it looks going forward. But big, big statement when
I felt like for the Jaguars, Travis Etn had a
few big plays and there's there's some things to like
at least, so I thought the defense played well just overall.
I don't know, did you have any thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I'm Jaguars look competent. I don't have too much
thoughts with them. I don't know how much to take
away from this, Kyle. When I said I wanted Bryce
Young to start playing like Tua, this isn't what I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, very similar games. I mean, he wasn't that bad.
He wasn't that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
He was he I mean, the game was really like
Bryce Young bail us out and he's like, what do
you mean I gotta bail you? Like, like why is
Bryce Young? They're shooting brace Young the way like the
Chiefs treat Patrick mahomes of just like oh yeah, I'll
figure it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Out for us. But that's how it was last year too,
and he ended up making a few good plays. But yeah,
I just think it's it's a tough team. This offense
still needs a lot of talent, and like, you know,
they did the theel In trade and like I understood,
like you got a third round pick for an older player,
like that was probably good value or whatever it was,
third or fourth round pick. But then Jalen Coker also

(01:17:09):
immediately goes on the il who is a guy who
you're probably envisioning filling into that role, who was good
last season, And it just looked like the team. You know,
Teed McMillan had a few good plays, but it looks
like a team that was desperately needed as the pass catchers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah, it just looked like the same as last year,
except for place like dealing with Pep mcmill like that,
it's like, oh, you got one guy who's playing pretty good.
I like that's it. So yeah, rough this. I was
disappointed because I was very excited for Bryce Young. But yeah,
it's it's just it's not happening. I'm sure he'll go
to another team and play good there maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah, I mean he could have a resurgent second career
for sure, second draft, but like, I don't know, let's see,
maybe they can maybe they get better. You know, we
saw this Panthers team. This is still better than the
Pan Week one of the last season. That's true. You
know that this team has shown that it can get
better throughout the season. I think it will. I even
think in this game, like Bryce Young started out struggling.

(01:18:08):
I thought he played better in stretches of this game
later on, but like the game was over by that
point too, So who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
He didn't make He made some really nice place he
just he also made some not some nice place which
was kind, and there just wasn't enough. It wasn't enough
to be had with this. So yeah, credit to the Jaguars.
No good win from uh for Liam Cohen and the Jaguars. There, Kyle,
we did it. We got through sixteen games, you know,
hour and twenty minutes saying look at us, look at us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Indeed, and now look at us. Go to bed. So
everybody have a good night.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Yeah, thank you everybody. Uh, we will be back Wednesday.
Wednesday at six pm Eastern. Be on the lookout for
the previous show Week two preview. If you want to
hear us talk about the I don't know the Panthers Cardinals.
That that's when you can tune in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yep. Yeah, I don't know what you just said about
Panthers' Cardinals, but sounds good. Is that the game next week?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Yes? I said, if you want to hear us, I'll
talk preview to Panthers Cardinals. Got tuned in next week
six pm easer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Listen Cardinals by one hundred. We already know what it is.
Cardinals are winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Kei ran reminding me, don't forget the Socials. Yes, Kyle,
where can I find us on Twitter? Before we head.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Out, Kieran, we're trying to go to bed here. Make
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available there. Kyle, you can get to bed, and so
can everybody else. Thanks again, especially to those of you
staying up past one o'clock on the East Coast. We
appreciate all of you who are watching live or listening
after the fact. Until next time, have a good one, peace,