Strap in for an unforgettable ride with AJ (@ajandhisbackpack) and Jessenia (@jessenia_jlv) as they dive into the ultimate peace vs. happiness debate! Ever wondered what separates peace from happiness in your own life? Does peace lead to happiness, or is it the other way around? Plus, they’ll ask the big question: Would you rather teach someone to find happiness or inner peace? This episode’s packed with deep thoughts, plenty of laughs, and no shortage of good vibes. Tune in, vibe out, and let the conversation take you places you didn’t expect!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of a J. McLoughlin. I'm Ryan Ruie, I'm DJ Rich
Receives the tough fo.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Plinny Martinez and we are the hosts of Opinions
and Consequences, the podcast, the show where Europeans can lead
to consequences.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So choose your words wisely. Joy the show. Hey, hey, hey,
yan yan yan yang yan yang.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Guys man, welcome back to another episode of a peace
Consequences off the books. Guys, you already know the deal man.
I'm your host, Agent Cloff and guys, got a guess
in the building. You know, she's a little vip. You know,
she got a little, she got a little she got
a lot of accolades on it. I can't even list
all of them, you know what I mean. She's gonna
have to do. She's gonna have to do most of them.
(00:44):
But she goes by the name J. V Jasna. I
want to welcome just to the building.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What's part the job A man? You do that's already
gonna beat any dad? Good? Good, jud how's your new year? Ben?
Has it started off like good? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Has the world started off good? Though we've been in flames?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
No, No, we have some especially l.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
First month has been straight crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, okay, but it's gonna get better.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Itelt like a year.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh man, You're gonna get better though.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Listen, I'm not gonna lie to you. Just let me
tell you something. She's a crazy dancer, like you know
what I mean, like a professional dancer, like not like
you know, not that King Authors or something like that,
you know what I mean. But but you know in
shout out to the shout out to the ones that
do do that at King Authors and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But she dances. She's a creator, she got fashion.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
She's a mentor, professor that I that I mentioned, teacher, teacher,
what else?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What else we mentioned?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So a mentor.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm a coach, coach, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
A style us. Yeah. I do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You got to have for everything.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I love a lot of things. I'm a multifaceted and individual.
So that's what.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm talking about. Like, do you feel like, let's say
we're gonna get right into it. It's just these collaps.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Listen, So guys, man on really quick, guys on this
episode as well, Peace versus Happiness man and guys, A
lot of you guys, may or may not know, but
like there's a big difference between peace and happiness, and
a lot of people may have their own opinions and
definition of them, but I feel like a lot of
us get it misconstrued. So my first question to you, madam,
(02:48):
is what is your definition of peace and happiness?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So I think peace and pieces is a foundation. It's
it's something that's internal, It's something that you can get to.
It's the freedom of not allowing the outside noise.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
To destruct.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's what I for me peace, That's what I define
peace as. This is my foundation, and once I found that,
it's been a game changer. Whereas happiness, I think is
an emotion that it's like a roller coaster. You can
have it, you cannot. You can be at peace without
necessarily being happy with happiness. You can. Happiness comes and goes.
(03:45):
So I feel like external sometimes with experiences, relationships, accolades, achievements.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm with you on that what you want to just
in a sense that you know I do. I do
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Peace to me people peace, I feel like you can't.
You have less control over it, less control over peace,
meaning like sometimes certain environments messes with your piece, and
some people don't have the luxury to get out that environment, right,
(04:23):
But you have a toolbox.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You have a toolbox you can always just go into
and figure out what it is that you need to
do in order for you to align yourself back into
what that piece is for you, no matter where you're at.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I feel like a lot of us, because I'm
including myself people because I'm not perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You know, no, that's a perfect But I.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Feel like a lot of us don't don't know how
to how to use certain tools in that toolbox that
you're talking about to actually make those adjustments, because I
just feel like a lot of us don't when we're
in that situation. It's just like, oh my god, we're
in a situation. And now you're like, oh, oh okay,
I'm in a toxic situation.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do I do? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Do I just let this mess my inner piece up
and then now bring down my happiness? You see what
I'm saying versus where your happiness you know, in my therapinion,
you know what I mean? I feel like it's more
controllable because it's like I feel like, you know, if
you're having a bad week, bad day. You know what
makes you happy? You know you're like, you know what,
You're on the phone, you in a group chat with
(05:25):
your girls. You're like, like, girls, listen, I'm going out.
I'm gonna go grab me a tub of ice cream.
I'm gonna go get my nails dead. Okay, I'm gonna
get my head dead. And I'm good. I'm happy. I'm
in my happy place. I feel like that happiness is
like I feel like, as we're growing up, we've always
we've had a better happy situation versus peace, because you
(05:49):
know what I mean, we're not like as kids, they're
not thinking about peace. Who's thinking about peace? Like you
know what I mean, You're like, yo, am I going
to the playground?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Or not? Like am I going? You know what I mean? Like,
so it's just like happiness, happiness, happiness.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So I feel like peace is something where And this
is my fair opinion, guys, it's more uncontrollable based off circumstances.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No, no, no, And that's.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Fair and I respect that, you know what I mean,
because I just feel like, you know what I mean,
Like I said, like certain certain situations, if you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
If you're not accustomed to.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It will mess up your inner peace, and you have to,
like you said, with that tool box, you gotta make
that adjustment.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It takes a long and the thing is, it takes
a long time to get there. It's not it's not easy.
I definitely will say that there are certain circumstances that
definitely will test and challenge you know, that inner peace.
So I agree on that. It's just because it's an
(06:57):
internal thing you get to choose. That's a choice for you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You do get to chews, you do? You do? Ye?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now, okay, let me let me ask you this. You know,
since we're we're all talking about Jesse, don't I need
I need them?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Chuckles?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Ye, let me ask you this, What does peace mean
to you in a world that can feel chaotic? And
how do you intentionally create a space for it in
your life?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like you said, how what does peace mean to me
in a chaotic pretty much in a chaotic environment?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Correct? Correct? Correct? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because I want you to give that and just so
like trying to try to help a lot of people
that are in unpeaceful situations in this world.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Too, how would you go about it and make yourself
happy in that situation?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So, because I've always grown up in chaos, and I
feel like that's where I've operated from for a really
long time. So I probably was like in my thirties
when I figured out that you get to choose to
unlearn certain things. Oh yeah, I feel like being able
(08:20):
to implement that in my day to day routines because
it's a practice piece doesn't come easy, doesn't. You're going
to get challenged left and right. And it's definitely one
of those things that out I mean, I pray, I journal,
I voiced record whenever I want to just express whatever thoughts.
(08:46):
Dance is definitely a therapy. That's what it's it's always been.
But I think that being able to tap into the
practices of Okay, if I'm in a chaotic environment, what
can I do too? One silence the chaos that's around me,
(09:12):
because sometimes you just can't avoid that. It's just part
of your environment and it definitely does affect you, yes,
very much so. But journaling, journaling, being able to be
in solitude has helped me a whole lot. Yeah, that's
(09:38):
definitely helped me be able to one center myself with
my thoughts that obviously sometimes are a thousand thoughts, a second,
but wasting that and writing it out and realizing what
(10:00):
are the things that I need to set boundaries for
and being okay to say no to things and people.
And if you don't get that invite, don't fucking ask
to be invited because responsible by Disney.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So yo, you out, but no, I'm with you on that.
I'm with you on that. I just find it. I
find it now, like.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When you do these journal entries, like do you feel
like you do you revisit them?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do you revisit them.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Or is it kind of like Yo, I'm gonna throw
this in a box and an attic put it taped
like five times over it, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like because it's like you know what I mean because
if you start listening to it again or like opening okay,
then it's Pandora's box, So you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So I just but if you haven't faced those wounds,
they're still bleeding out into your life and in that aspect,
everything in your life, all areas are going to be
affected by them. So like there's past trump like therapy.
I know it has such a negative to it, especially
(11:16):
coming from uh Hispanic household, but when you know better
you do better and growing up and let those claps
finish all the class. Yeah, I don't. To me, therapy
(11:42):
is important. I think it's it's It's definitely been my
gateway to some some major aha moments of like, oh
I thought I've dealt with that, and sometimes those wounds
are not hm easy to take the off and just jesus, yeah,
(12:02):
but it's so necessary for your growth.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm with it, man like. Listen, guys, all of the
stuff that she's saying is bars man like and these
are these are definitely tools that I was asking about
in terms of how to actually navigate through a chaotic world,
you know what I mean, create your inner peace and
then don't don't let it mess you up or create
this new happiness for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right, all right, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did you answer it? What was your piece?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was my piece? We're gonna come back. We're gonna come
as her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, let me ask you this, you know, because since
you are a phenomenal dancer, how has dance played a
role in your happiness and truly made you feel alive?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like? You know what I mean? Like she be like,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Move like that, But why are you saying rules? Dance
has always been as you know, yeah, you've known me
since forever, but I literally forever forever, Miss Laning Usa,
(13:22):
literally forever since the age was six six years old. Yeah,
that's crazy. Wow, sleep another bleep. Yeah, I mean dance
has been my therapy. It's it's literally what is my
(13:47):
safe haven, It's my escape. It's the only thing that
allows me to not think of anything else when I'm
doing it. Being able to perform in front of thousands
of people is such a surreal feeling, and the energy
that comes from that is like no other. So being
(14:09):
able to experience that and have that opportunity and just
be connected internationally with so many people, from teaching dance
to dancing myself, and whenever I don't have the words
to speak, being able to like go to dance and
just move freely like there is no when you're freestyling,
(14:33):
there's no right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
No, yo, it's it's your creative space exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So being able to do that and not care if
the move is cool or not when when it is
just like an like expression or release that I.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Need'st what's your most epic?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What's your epic? What's your what's your what's your mount
rushmore of of of dance.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Comps or dance sessions, or like what's your most like
We'll go from one to three, three to.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Three to one three to three, so three being what
three being you know at the bottom, Well, you know
you talked to well.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I will say my most epic moment with dance has
had to probably be this past year when I was
able to produce my own show for the first time,
have like the dance. I was able to just bring
(15:48):
my story to life with my show Rooted Shrewded two
point zero will be happening this year in October follow Yeah,
but yeah, being able to to finally speak my truth
(16:09):
and see it through movement, not just because I'm putting
you know, movement on other people, but being able to
see them interpret what these words and the music meant
to them, and then being able to hear the impact
from the audience member on what you know. And yeah,
(16:33):
it was the story of the roads that grew in
the concrete jungle.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So yeah, don't do that because you know what, man, listen,
you know what part of the show, I'm gonna get
some more self effects just for.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We're gonna come back to the other two.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But let me ask you this, and you know what
to to carry on and to resonate with what you
just said. You know what I mean, Mine's mine's like fitness,
you know what i mean. Mine's just lifting weights, working
out all that stuff. That's that's where I find my
inner piece, you know what I mean. That's where I
feel most alive that because you know, I'm being able
(17:12):
to demonstrate everything that I'm capable of doing without any judgment.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Just like how she says like she has a.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Creative space where she's like, oh she's doing this, she's
doing that, she's freestyl and then, you know what I mean,
the same difference. You know, she got thousand people watching her.
Like it's just like you know, people in the gym too.
Now you know they out there recording. Oh my god,
that's dope. Can I post it?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm like, yeah, you can't. Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's it's uplifting. It's like, oh shit, yo, damn, I
just touched you. No R Kelly, no Diddy, Like you
know what I mean, I just touch you without actually
doing it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's but and that's adulte feeling because like you said,
like when you can't even speak or all that stuff,
you're being able to touch people like correct, you know
what I mean? Damn crazy, No, you're not, you know.
Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Do you think peace leads to happiness or is happiness
the gateway to peace? Think about it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think that peace leads to happiness. Okay, not the
other way around, because like I think I mentioned before,
I think happiness is can be a moment. You can
have a moment of happiness where it'll end up going away.
Where peace is a foundation, it's internal, it's within you.
(18:33):
And when you're at peace, you can find happiness in
a lot of little things as well. It doesn't have
to be huge moments.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, No, I like it. I like it. I like it.
Let me ask you this though, so like so, just
because you have that in a peace, are you content?
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Cause I think is is like this you have that
piece like all right, so let's let's let's let's make
an example.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
A right you have you got your hubby at the.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
House and you know you're at peace with the fact,
like yo, he don't go out, he comes home every night.
But at the same time, he doesn't make you happy
in other ways, you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
See what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So like, so I feel like I feel like peace,
you know what I mean, Like you could be peaced
with certain things, but.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What if somebody doesn't create happiness for you?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I mean, that's that's a big part of.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
No, because you know, I mean sometimes sometimes sometimes people
I feel like, sometimes people like it doesn't mean it
doesn't matter if you have your peace, that don't mean
you're happy, not for all people, not for all people,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
True, That's what I meant. You know, I had said.
I was like, you can be at peace and not
necessarily be happy.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
But I think that you're at peace will lead to
your to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Your yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
For me being contempt my internal peace, it took a
long time for me to get here. Yeah, whereas before
the happy, happy moments are gonna happen, you know, hard
times that are gonna happen. Are you still at peace
with the hard moments? I could be at peace with
some hard moments?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like it's
it's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
People like and to be fair, guys, you know what
I mean if you've been from the mud, if you're
from the mud, like meaning from the bottom, like you
know what I mean, you understand chaotic and hard times
like and when it comes down to newer times, like
you're gonna be okay with certain moments where you're like, oh,
it ain't too bad, like you know what I mean.
Other people will make it seem like it's bad and
(20:43):
it's worse, but you're like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
What's wrong with ramen noodles?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Like you know what I mean, Like I grew up
on this, like where somebody else will be like, oh
my god, I can't believe you're eating that, Like we.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Don't eat it now because but but we.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No fluff. Fluff was expensive. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So if I feel like a lot of us, if
we're if we're from the bottom, we do understand and
we have more of a control over peace because it's like, yo,
we've we've been through some dark moments, like you know
what I mean, Whereas it's kind of like other people's
like oh my god, Like if you're tell somebody your story.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You're like you did that, and you're like what you mean,
like you never did that? Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You're looking at them like, oh okay, you're different. So
I do I do? You know what I mean, Like
I respect it, you know what I mean? Because you're
you said peace leads to your happiness. I choose peace.
I choose peace. Peace does not lead to my happiness
though peace peace piece leads to peace leads to my content,
(21:58):
Like you know what I mean, I am like content
with being more at peace than happy, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I choose my happiness, like you know what I mean.
I feel like you know what I mean. That's one
thing that I can control is my happiness. Like whether
or not I'm happy or sad, I can control that,
like you know what I mean, Like I'm if I
had a rough day today, I'm not gonna put it
on you. I control that, you know what I mean,
Like I'm not gonna be like, yeah, what's uthing, man?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Just like no, I control that. So like I could
be having the worst day, but me control of my
happiness is like yo, nah, this this has nothing to
do with this person.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So I'm good.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But well, then it goes back to if you're at
peace with whatever shitty day you may be having, and
you are in control of how your reactive towards anybody,
then your happiness isn't no no no, because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What I'm saying is it's like I'm control roll in
my happiness.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like I'm not like, you know, how emotions get the
best of somebody, like they could take over somebody. I'm
not allowing that to happen to men, you know what
I mean. I'm more so like, oh, okay, cool, I'm
I'm cool with this, Like I mean, I mean, like
you could be having a worse day, but I'm not
gonna let it damp for the whole mood you feel me.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We're gonna come back to that. Okay, We're gonna come
back all right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Listen, this is rapid fire, people, rapid fire, So listen,
we're not gonna go too too far in depth.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, So all right, let's do it, all right, rapid fire.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Would you rather teach someone how to be happy or
how to be at peace? We already know the answer
to that. Go ahead, how we knew it.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I teach it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What's your go to reset button when life feels chaotic?
I know she answered this, but.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Honestly, going to the beach so it brings me clareny No,
I'm in Florida. Unfortunately, in Florida it's also ghetto.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yo, that's wold.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, what's the first song that makes you want to
dance every time you hear it?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Mm hmm, that's hard that song? Oh my god? I
mean yeah, not definitely not that song.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
But.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, yo, yo, you don't what I'm gonna have to say.
It's a It's called Rebellion. Rebellion by Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, you gotta play?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean yeah, play that one.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Is a peaceful nap better than a happy party?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Talk to me? I mean it's peace over here.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, I'm a i'm a Oh, do not even make those.
I think maker will punch you in your round. I'm
gonna have to. I'm a napper, So I do love naps,
(25:35):
But a happy party you can't go wrong with that,
like memorable, like a crazy. Yeah, Like partying in general
just makes me think of like back in the day,
my house was the party house. So I know you
have the best party the best party. My My parents
(25:55):
were the party people.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, if you listen, if you could have a dance
song for any celebrity, who would it be?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Uh you? Okay, I have to Okay, Chris Brown, I
mean he'll smoke me. That's fine, that's fine, to be
in greatness like him as a former. And then I
would have to say I would have to say Tiana Taylor.
(26:29):
I mean just because yeah, let's dance it off. And
then I want to chat it up, like chop it
up because I'm like from style to her, producing to
her everything like that woman does it all. So just
being able to get in that brain or just like
chop it up would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Listen, any any positive negative feedback you want to get
to the people, to the people, any positive or toxic
energy you could be it could people.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Positive. Always choose yourself, don't don't wait to be chosen,
don't wait for the opportunity to come. If you have
an idea, act on it. Believe in yourself fully, even
if you have to start at whatever caliber in order
(27:21):
to get to another level that you see the bigger vision.
Just start start push. You will find the support even
if the people that you thought, we're going to be
the supportive team around you. Aren't. It doesn't matter the people,
(27:41):
Your people will find you. And that's just something that
I've been able to go through for myself as well
as just I'm always a doer, like if I act
on things, even if is messy in the beginning, just
(28:02):
because you can always finesse, you can always learn, be teachable, gorgeable,
be a sponge travel. I mean, we live one life,
one life, and why not do what you need to do,
especially because tomorrow is some promise.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Damn I need to be hind fortune. Click your hand
a Hallmark.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
D Listening, guys, before we get out of here, man,
a little bit of words of wisdom people, man, Listen,
my social media does not have the answers you're lurking for. Okay,
more the story. I don't need tax money to cut
you off. I can have a dollar seventy five in
(28:50):
my pocket. You're heard, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Man, listen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I want to thank you guys for walking out with
us for another episode of A pens Consule was off
the books.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
We got justin a bill A K A j V. Guys,
how can they reach you?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You can reach me either under at JV Creations, which
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So choose your words wisely. Joy the show. Hey, hey, hey,
yan yan yan yang yan yang.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Guys man, welcome back to another episode of a peace
Consequences off the books. Guys, you already know the deal man.
I'm your host, Agent Cloff and guys, got a guess
in the building. You know, she's a little vip. You know,
she got a little, she got a little she got
a lot of accolades on it. I can't even list
all of them, you know what I mean. She's gonna
have to do. She's gonna have to do most of them.
(00:44):
But she goes by the name J. V Jasna. I
want to welcome just to the building.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What's part the job A man? You do that's already
gonna beat any dad? Good? Good, jud how's your new year? Ben?
Has it started off like good? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Has the world started off good? Though we've been in flames?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
No, No, we have some especially l.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
First month has been straight crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, okay, but it's gonna get better.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Itelt like a year.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh man, You're gonna get better though.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Listen, I'm not gonna lie to you. Just let me
tell you something. She's a crazy dancer, like you know
what I mean, like a professional dancer, like not like
you know, not that King Authors or something like that,
you know what I mean. But but you know in
shout out to the shout out to the ones that
do do that at King Authors and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
But she dances. She's a creator, she got fashion.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
She's a mentor, professor that I that I mentioned, teacher, teacher,
what else?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
What else we mentioned?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So a mentor.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm a coach, coach, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
A style us. Yeah. I do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You got to have for everything.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I love a lot of things. I'm a multifaceted and individual.
So that's what.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm talking about. Like, do you feel like, let's say
we're gonna get right into it. It's just these collaps.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Listen, So guys, man on really quick, guys on this
episode as well, Peace versus Happiness man and guys, A
lot of you guys, may or may not know, but
like there's a big difference between peace and happiness, and
a lot of people may have their own opinions and
definition of them, but I feel like a lot of
us get it misconstrued. So my first question to you, madam,
(02:48):
is what is your definition of peace and happiness?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So I think peace and pieces is a foundation. It's
it's something that's internal, It's something that you can get to.
It's the freedom of not allowing the outside noise.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
To destruct.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's what I for me peace, That's what I define
peace as. This is my foundation, and once I found that,
it's been a game changer. Whereas happiness, I think is
an emotion that it's like a roller coaster. You can
have it, you cannot. You can be at peace without
necessarily being happy with happiness. You can. Happiness comes and goes.
(03:45):
So I feel like external sometimes with experiences, relationships, accolades, achievements.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm with you on that what you want to just
in a sense that you know I do. I do
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Peace to me people peace, I feel like you can't.
You have less control over it, less control over peace,
meaning like sometimes certain environments messes with your piece, and
some people don't have the luxury to get out that environment, right,
(04:23):
But you have a toolbox.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You have a toolbox you can always just go into
and figure out what it is that you need to
do in order for you to align yourself back into
what that piece is for you, no matter where you're at.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But I feel like a lot of us, because I'm
including myself people because I'm not perfect.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You know, no, that's a perfect But I.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Feel like a lot of us don't don't know how
to how to use certain tools in that toolbox that
you're talking about to actually make those adjustments, because I
just feel like a lot of us don't when we're
in that situation. It's just like, oh my god, we're
in a situation. And now you're like, oh, oh okay,
I'm in a toxic situation.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do I do? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Do I just let this mess my inner piece up
and then now bring down my happiness? You see what
I'm saying versus where your happiness you know, in my therapinion,
you know what I mean? I feel like it's more
controllable because it's like I feel like, you know, if
you're having a bad week, bad day. You know what
makes you happy? You know you're like, you know what,
You're on the phone, you in a group chat with
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your girls. You're like, like, girls, listen, I'm going out.
I'm gonna go grab me a tub of ice cream.
I'm gonna go get my nails dead. Okay, I'm gonna
get my head dead. And I'm good. I'm happy. I'm
in my happy place. I feel like that happiness is
like I feel like, as we're growing up, we've always
we've had a better happy situation versus peace, because you
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know what I mean, we're not like as kids, they're
not thinking about peace. Who's thinking about peace? Like you
know what I mean, You're like, yo, am I going
to the playground?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Or not? Like am I going? You know what I mean? Like,
so it's just like happiness, happiness, happiness.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So I feel like peace is something where And this
is my fair opinion, guys, it's more uncontrollable based off circumstances.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
No, no, no, And that's.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Fair and I respect that, you know what I mean,
because I just feel like, you know what I mean,
Like I said, like certain certain situations, if you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
If you're not accustomed to.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It will mess up your inner peace, and you have to,
like you said, with that tool box, you gotta make
that adjustment.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It takes a long and the thing is, it takes
a long time to get there. It's not it's not easy.
I definitely will say that there are certain circumstances that
definitely will test and challenge you know, that inner peace.
So I agree on that. It's just because it's an
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internal thing you get to choose. That's a choice for you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You do get to chews, you do? You do? Ye?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now, okay, let me let me ask you this. You know,
since we're we're all talking about Jesse, don't I need
I need them?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Chuckles?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Ye, let me ask you this, What does peace mean
to you in a world that can feel chaotic? And
how do you intentionally create a space for it in
your life?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like you said, how what does peace mean to me
in a chaotic pretty much in a chaotic environment?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Correct? Correct? Correct? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because I want you to give that and just so
like trying to try to help a lot of people
that are in unpeaceful situations in this world.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Too, how would you go about it and make yourself
happy in that situation?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So, because I've always grown up in chaos, and I
feel like that's where I've operated from for a really
long time. So I probably was like in my thirties
when I figured out that you get to choose to
unlearn certain things. Oh yeah, I feel like being able
(08:20):
to implement that in my day to day routines because
it's a practice piece doesn't come easy, doesn't. You're going
to get challenged left and right. And it's definitely one
of those things that out I mean, I pray, I journal,
I voiced record whenever I want to just express whatever thoughts.
(08:46):
Dance is definitely a therapy. That's what it's it's always been.
But I think that being able to tap into the
practices of Okay, if I'm in a chaotic environment, what
can I do too? One silence the chaos that's around me,
(09:12):
because sometimes you just can't avoid that. It's just part
of your environment and it definitely does affect you, yes,
very much so. But journaling, journaling, being able to be
in solitude has helped me a whole lot. Yeah, that's
(09:38):
definitely helped me be able to one center myself with
my thoughts that obviously sometimes are a thousand thoughts, a second,
but wasting that and writing it out and realizing what
(10:00):
are the things that I need to set boundaries for
and being okay to say no to things and people.
And if you don't get that invite, don't fucking ask
to be invited because responsible by Disney.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So yo, you out, but no, I'm with you on that.
I'm with you on that. I just find it. I
find it now, like.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
When you do these journal entries, like do you feel
like you do you revisit them?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do you revisit them.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Or is it kind of like Yo, I'm gonna throw
this in a box and an attic put it taped
like five times over it, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like because it's like you know what I mean because
if you start listening to it again or like opening okay,
then it's Pandora's box, So you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
So I just but if you haven't faced those wounds,
they're still bleeding out into your life and in that aspect,
everything in your life, all areas are going to be
affected by them. So like there's past trump like therapy.
I know it has such a negative to it, especially
(11:16):
coming from uh Hispanic household, but when you know better
you do better and growing up and let those claps
finish all the class. Yeah, I don't. To me, therapy
(11:42):
is important. I think it's it's It's definitely been my
gateway to some some major aha moments of like, oh
I thought I've dealt with that, and sometimes those wounds
are not hm easy to take the off and just jesus, yeah,
(12:02):
but it's so necessary for your growth.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm with it, man like. Listen, guys, all of the
stuff that she's saying is bars man like and these
are these are definitely tools that I was asking about
in terms of how to actually navigate through a chaotic world,
you know what I mean, create your inner peace and
then don't don't let it mess you up or create
this new happiness for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right, all right, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did you answer it? What was your piece?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was my piece? We're gonna come back. We're gonna come
as her.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, let me ask you this, you know, because since
you are a phenomenal dancer, how has dance played a
role in your happiness and truly made you feel alive?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like? You know what I mean? Like she be like,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Move like that, But why are you saying rules? Dance
has always been as you know, yeah, you've known me
since forever, but I literally forever forever, Miss Laning Usa,
(13:22):
literally forever since the age was six six years old. Yeah,
that's crazy. Wow, sleep another bleep. Yeah, I mean dance
has been my therapy. It's it's literally what is my
(13:47):
safe haven, It's my escape. It's the only thing that
allows me to not think of anything else when I'm
doing it. Being able to perform in front of thousands
of people is such a surreal feeling, and the energy
that comes from that is like no other. So being
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able to experience that and have that opportunity and just
be connected internationally with so many people, from teaching dance
to dancing myself, and whenever I don't have the words
to speak, being able to like go to dance and
just move freely like there is no when you're freestyling,
(14:33):
there's no right or wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
No, yo, it's it's your creative space exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So being able to do that and not care if
the move is cool or not when when it is
just like an like expression or release that I.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Need'st what's your most epic?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What's your epic? What's your what's your what's your mount
rushmore of of of dance.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Comps or dance sessions, or like what's your most like
We'll go from one to three, three to.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Three to one three to three, so three being what
three being you know at the bottom, Well, you know
you talked to well.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I will say my most epic moment with dance has
had to probably be this past year when I was
able to produce my own show for the first time,
have like the dance. I was able to just bring
(15:48):
my story to life with my show Rooted Shrewded two
point zero will be happening this year in October follow Yeah,
but yeah, being able to to finally speak my truth
(16:09):
and see it through movement, not just because I'm putting
you know, movement on other people, but being able to
see them interpret what these words and the music meant
to them, and then being able to hear the impact
from the audience member on what you know. And yeah,
(16:33):
it was the story of the roads that grew in
the concrete jungle.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So yeah, don't do that because you know what, man, listen,
you know what part of the show, I'm gonna get
some more self effects just for.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We're gonna come back to the other two.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But let me ask you this, and you know what
to to carry on and to resonate with what you
just said. You know what I mean, Mine's mine's like fitness,
you know what i mean. Mine's just lifting weights, working
out all that stuff. That's that's where I find my
inner piece, you know what I mean. That's where I
feel most alive that because you know, I'm being able
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to demonstrate everything that I'm capable of doing without any judgment.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Just like how she says like she has a.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Creative space where she's like, oh she's doing this, she's
doing that, she's freestyl and then, you know what I mean,
the same difference. You know, she got thousand people watching her.
Like it's just like you know, people in the gym too.
Now you know they out there recording. Oh my god,
that's dope. Can I post it?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm like, yeah, you can't. Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's it's uplifting. It's like, oh shit, yo, damn, I
just touched you. No R Kelly, no Diddy, Like you
know what I mean, I just touch you without actually
doing it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's but and that's adulte feeling because like you said,
like when you can't even speak or all that stuff,
you're being able to touch people like correct, you know
what I mean? Damn crazy, No, you're not, you know.
Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Do you think peace leads to happiness or is happiness
the gateway to peace? Think about it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think that peace leads to happiness. Okay, not the
other way around, because like I think I mentioned before,
I think happiness is can be a moment. You can
have a moment of happiness where it'll end up going away.
Where peace is a foundation, it's internal, it's within you.
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And when you're at peace, you can find happiness in
a lot of little things as well. It doesn't have
to be huge moments.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, No, I like it. I like it. I like it.
Let me ask you this though, so like so, just
because you have that in a peace, are you content?
Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Cause I think is is like this you have that
piece like all right, so let's let's let's let's make
an example.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
A right you have you got your hubby at the.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
House and you know you're at peace with the fact,
like yo, he don't go out, he comes home every night.
But at the same time, he doesn't make you happy
in other ways, you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
See what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So like, so I feel like I feel like peace,
you know what I mean, Like you could be peaced
with certain things, but.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What if somebody doesn't create happiness for you?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I mean, that's that's a big part of.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
No, because you know, I mean sometimes sometimes sometimes people
I feel like, sometimes people like it doesn't mean it
doesn't matter if you have your peace, that don't mean
you're happy, not for all people, not for all people,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
True, That's what I meant. You know, I had said.
I was like, you can be at peace and not
necessarily be happy.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
But I think that you're at peace will lead to
your to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Your yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
For me being contempt my internal peace, it took a
long time for me to get here. Yeah, whereas before
the happy, happy moments are gonna happen, you know, hard
times that are gonna happen. Are you still at peace
with the hard moments? I could be at peace with
some hard moments?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like it's
it's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
People like and to be fair, guys, you know what
I mean if you've been from the mud, if you're
from the mud, like meaning from the bottom, like you
know what I mean, you understand chaotic and hard times
like and when it comes down to newer times, like
you're gonna be okay with certain moments where you're like, oh,
it ain't too bad, like you know what I mean.
Other people will make it seem like it's bad and
(20:43):
it's worse, but you're like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
What's wrong with ramen noodles?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Like you know what I mean, Like I grew up
on this, like where somebody else will be like, oh
my god, I can't believe you're eating that, Like we.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Don't eat it now because but but we.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
No fluff. Fluff was expensive. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So if I feel like a lot of us, if
we're if we're from the bottom, we do understand and
we have more of a control over peace because it's like, yo,
we've we've been through some dark moments, like you know
what I mean, Whereas it's kind of like other people's
like oh my god, Like if you're tell somebody your story.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You're like you did that, and you're like what you mean,
like you never did that? Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You're looking at them like, oh okay, you're different. So
I do I do? You know what I mean, Like
I respect it, you know what I mean? Because you're
you said peace leads to your happiness. I choose peace.
I choose peace. Peace does not lead to my happiness
though peace peace piece leads to peace leads to my content,
(21:58):
Like you know what I mean, I am like content
with being more at peace than happy, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I choose my happiness, like you know what I mean.
I feel like you know what I mean. That's one
thing that I can control is my happiness. Like whether
or not I'm happy or sad, I can control that,
like you know what I mean, Like I'm if I
had a rough day today, I'm not gonna put it
on you. I control that, you know what I mean,
Like I'm not gonna be like, yeah, what's uthing, man?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Just like no, I control that. So like I could
be having the worst day, but me control of my
happiness is like yo, nah, this this has nothing to
do with this person.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So I'm good.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But well, then it goes back to if you're at
peace with whatever shitty day you may be having, and
you are in control of how your reactive towards anybody,
then your happiness isn't no no no, because I'm not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What I'm saying is it's like I'm control roll in
my happiness.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Like I'm not like, you know, how emotions get the
best of somebody, like they could take over somebody. I'm
not allowing that to happen to men, you know what
I mean. I'm more so like, oh, okay, cool, I'm
I'm cool with this, Like I mean, I mean, like
you could be having a worse day, but I'm not
gonna let it damp for the whole mood you feel me.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We're gonna come back to that. Okay, We're gonna come
back all right.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Listen, this is rapid fire, people, rapid fire, So listen,
we're not gonna go too too far in depth.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, So all right, let's do it, all right, rapid fire.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Would you rather teach someone how to be happy or
how to be at peace? We already know the answer
to that. Go ahead, how we knew it.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
We knew it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I teach it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What's your go to reset button when life feels chaotic?
I know she answered this, but.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Honestly, going to the beach so it brings me clareny No,
I'm in Florida. Unfortunately, in Florida it's also ghetto.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yo, that's wold.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, what's the first song that makes you want to
dance every time you hear it?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Mm hmm, that's hard that song? Oh my god? I
mean yeah, not definitely not that song.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
But.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, yo, yo, you don't what I'm gonna have to say.
It's a It's called Rebellion. Rebellion by Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, you gotta play?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean yeah, play that one.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Is a peaceful nap better than a happy party?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Talk to me? I mean it's peace over here.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Okay, I'm a i'm a Oh, do not even make those.
I think maker will punch you in your round. I'm
gonna have to. I'm a napper, So I do love naps,
(25:35):
But a happy party you can't go wrong with that,
like memorable, like a crazy. Yeah, Like partying in general
just makes me think of like back in the day,
my house was the party house. So I know you
have the best party the best party. My My parents
(25:55):
were the party people.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay, if you listen, if you could have a dance
song for any celebrity, who would it be?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Uh you? Okay, I have to Okay, Chris Brown, I
mean he'll smoke me. That's fine, that's fine, to be
in greatness like him as a former. And then I
would have to say I would have to say Tiana Taylor.
(26:29):
I mean just because yeah, let's dance it off. And
then I want to chat it up, like chop it
up because I'm like from style to her, producing to
her everything like that woman does it all. So just
being able to get in that brain or just like
chop it up would be amazing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Listen, any any positive negative feedback you want to get
to the people, to the people, any positive or toxic
energy you could be it could people.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Positive. Always choose yourself, don't don't wait to be chosen,
don't wait for the opportunity to come. If you have
an idea, act on it. Believe in yourself fully, even
if you have to start at whatever caliber in order
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to get to another level that you see the bigger vision.
Just start start push. You will find the support even
if the people that you thought, we're going to be
the supportive team around you. Aren't. It doesn't matter the people,
(27:41):
Your people will find you. And that's just something that
I've been able to go through for myself as well
as just I'm always a doer, like if I act
on things, even if is messy in the beginning, just
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because you can always finesse, you can always learn, be teachable, gorgeable,
be a sponge travel. I mean, we live one life,
one life, and why not do what you need to do,
especially because tomorrow is some promise.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Damn I need to be hind fortune. Click your hand
a Hallmark.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
D Listening, guys, before we get out of here, man,
a little bit of words of wisdom people, man, Listen,
my social media does not have the answers you're lurking for. Okay,
more the story. I don't need tax money to cut
you off. I can have a dollar seventy five in
(28:50):
my pocket. You're heard, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Man, listen.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I want to thank you guys for walking out with
us for another episode of A pens Consule was off
the books.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
We got justin a bill A K A j V. Guys,
how can they reach you?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You can reach me either under at JV Creations, which
is my business page, and that's j V period c
R A T I O N S or on Beyond Empire,
which is my performance company. Check us out book us
if you have performances and you're looking for a group
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that can pretty much transform any venue, storytellers, the whole nine,
and then my personal is at Jasenia j E W
S E N I A underscore j l V YO.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's it, people.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Man, I'm glad you didn't give all her social but listen,
I'm gonna put all this stuff at the bottom right here. Listen, man,
until next time, man, Salutations Chier
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