October 13, 2025 • 59 mins
This week on Opinions & Consequences, AJ (@ajandhisbackpack), Ajay (@ajayramos_), and John (@john_ross617) dive headfirst into the wild world of modern love and flex culture! 💸💔 First up—Is tricking the new love language? Then we unpack the ultimate glow-up debate: are flashy clothes, cars, and watches self-care, or just fooling society into thinking you “made it”? 🕶️🚗💎 And when it comes to paying for dates—real investment in love, or just renting time with a human? Tune in for all this, plus hot takes, laughs, and debates you didn’t know you needed. 🔥🎙️
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of A. J. McLaughlin.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Ryan Ruie, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
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oh oh oh diddy buck oh shit man. Listen man,
Welcome back to another episode of A Pizza Consequences, Episode
one forty six. Listen, guys, this is this episode title
is Tricking and Treating. Tricking or Treating Part two, I
should say part two. Listen. I got two gentlemen here
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as guests. I got my man AJ back in the building.
What's the word? How you? And I got mister John,
the strongest man out here. Man. That's crazy man, what's up?
How you doing? That's that's tough on year. I mean,
I'm good. Oh, first and foremost, you know what I mean.
These hats. You gotta see these hats, man, These are
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not These are unrecognizable hats on the show. But shout
out to a n C. The supplement store. Shout out
to Peter.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, that's a sponsor today.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, all right, all right, you can. You can see
who goes there. He got a membership at a little bit.
What's the word? Gents? How you doing? Man? How was
your summer? It was good? It was good.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Sad it's over? You know, h are you really? Yeah?
I'm a big summer guy. I function well in the
hot weather.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I feel like you is that the time that you
feel like you're more adventures?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I can just wear a tank top, right?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You see that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So that works for me?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He's like, yo, if I can wear a tank top everywhere?
Where's the craziest place you wear tanks up at? What
would you say? Don't say a funeral because John, But
you know, you know what if I wore, yeah, a
tuxedo shirt, brow.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Went to the gym, we had to all wear yeah,
crazy spot.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't know, dude, I I fucking wear these things everywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I don't like a wedding. I like to dress up
and look good. Okay. I mean I'll basically wear this
thing everywhere other than like outer dinner.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Okay, but it's under. It's under during dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Just because I haven't been to jail.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So when you wear something like this under your shirt,
that means you were in jail, you know what I mean,
like a beater or a tank top.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm not in. He's like, I'm not in yet.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, save it just in case.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh man, what's so true?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Day? I've been outside, you know, been outside at the
clubs and in the summertime, changing my lifestyle. But I mean,
I'm typically a homebody. If you didn't know me before
this year, like I wasn't outside as I am now,
and it's a different journey. But I like the experiences
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I get to have and the people I get to
meet by being outside.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So you feel like you've taken a different approach from your.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Previous years, Like, yeah, I think there's a lot more
opportunity by just stepping out and being in that uncomfortable
spot rather than being inside or just being around the people.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know that was it a progression to get here
or was it kind of like, yo, you know what,
I'm outside?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean I've been out since February every single weekend,
just putting in work.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And the places where I'm at now, I couldn't even.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Tell you, Like if I would have told you, oh,
you're going to be at these places now, at car shows,
at all these clubs doing all this stuff. Now, I
would have been like, you're a fucking liar, You're a
goddamn liar. But I think just a little bit of work,
Like I wouldn't be here today, that's what's up. I
wouldn't be here today if I wasn't venturing out and
trying to meet people and trying to be more outside
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than I was before previous years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So you say that you was more of an introvert.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah, I was always, especially when I was DJing,
I was always in the booth. So now you get
to see the outside of Oh what happens in these sections?
You know what what because a lot of these people
are normal people. They're not just people that come out
to the club all the time. They have regular ass jobs.
So you get to go out and you get to see, oh,
this is what you do, this is how you function
in life. And I think it's a lot more of
you spreading out your wings rather than oh, we're just
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going out for drinks. Oh we're just going out to
you know, go and do crazy things. It's like, oh,
you get to go and market yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So you feel like you got a greater sense of
appreciation for other people.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, that's what's up man, that's cool. I know you
guys both crying.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, Yes, I love traveling.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Every time. Every time I look at John's Instagram, it
is either Miami.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Or Miami to go to. It is rarely is it's
to go.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
To where where's your go to spa in Miami? Like where?
Like where? Honestly, the people out there when I.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Go to Miami, I just sort of transport whatever I'm
doing here there.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I like to go out to eat. I like to
eat good. I like to hit the gym. There's a
few gyms out there, Boxer Gym, Covolution, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like are you are you in like the wind Wood
area and the Brokeol.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Win Wood's good. I go to Winwood. I was just
to Miami last week. I hit up Winwood a few times.
I like Brickle and it was a few spots. I
hit up to Delray. I like del Ray. It's a
little more chill, a little more laid back. Some good
places to eat. Fort Lauderdale, I mean South Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I love it. Before I get to like, do you
feel like the vibes are more in your favor? Over there,
verse she's here.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
People women in general are more open to communication, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, so they're more okay, okay, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Why is that though? Why is that? Can we talk
about that?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know, there's a lot of competition down there, right,
there's a lot of competition.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So if you have.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So if we push it to a subject a woman, right,
if you have a woman, let's say she's a nine here,
Oh no, she's a four?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh yeah, Miami, she's a four five?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right, and then solid four?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I mean, and you got dimes down there that are nice,
sweet engaging.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We'll talk to you.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And that woman who thinks she's a ten here or
a nine here is in the air, got a humble herself?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, she got a humble self. Now do you think,
I know you go to Miami too? Do you do
you go to the same.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I went earlier this year?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I just went to Brico and my and Miami Beach
South Beach? Right, Yeah, it's a different feel. I can
completely agree, even locally, right. So I came from Central
mass and then I moved over here. So when you
move from Central Mass to over here. Central Mass five
might be a Boston three two, right like and even
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a Boston seven or Boston ten is a is a
Miami seven. Miami seven is of ten is a fucking Russian.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
She could be a sleeper first round. Oh, because there's
a lot of sleep, you know what I mean. Where
it's just kind of like, oh, but there's definitely where
if you've been at you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
More to what he said is like, there's levels to it,
this levels of ship, especially where you're at, because there
is an abundance I'll go to some clubs and you
know where you we might be some of the I
would say, more attractive guys at a certain spot you
go to a different club, or you're you're below fucking
average and they got money, right, so you're not even
(08:01):
playing in the same field.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, I do. I do. I do feel like, you know,
it's Boston's very diverse. Diverse in the sense that you
could go to Scorpion Book and then switch up and
go down the street to Cavoo his spots. Yeah, and
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then you that transition, you're like, oh, someplace you might
have to really try hard. And in other.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Places yeah, it might just.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Be bringing you appetizers every two minutes, like hey, what's up?
You know, like, no, thank you, I don't want no
old herbs like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But also different when the lights come on. When the
lights come on, Oh it's so bro so yeah yeah, no,
I I bro. I got humble one time. I am
very fucking humble. So we go out every single week
and we got girls always with a. I have a
buddy that he dates girl very similar to you, right,
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like just fucking bad bitches all the time, right, And
so I bring out I bring out three that I
thought was bad.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I was like, yo, these are these are bad.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
They actually all go to the gym, right, and this
is why it is gym related, all right? And I
bring out out and I'm like, yo, these are you know, Colombian,
fucking all Colombians, actually all Colombians.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
And I think, like Elsa el salvadoran right, really bad,
really bad.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And you know, he's scoping out the crowd and I'm like, yo,
you're not feeling nothing, like what's what's going on? And
he's like nah, like you know, they're not really anything.
He there's not really anything here. I was like, okay,
Like I brought three, Like what's up with this?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
He's like, oh, they're like a seven and a half.
And I was like, damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I was like damn because there's different levels to it,
you know, there's levels to it.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And then I was.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Like, I was like, fuck if there's seven, you know.
And then I talked to my other boy and I
was like, yo, I told him the same story. He's like,
seven for Boston is not bad. I was like, no, no,
no shout.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But to Dore, like, I feel like the beauty is
an animate Your your six might be my eight, you
know what I mean? Your eight might be my four,
Like and you know what I mean, Obviously you got
to take consideration. We gotta take consideration frame, We gotta
take consideration a lot of other things like personality and
all that stuff like you know what I mean, that
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could boost up the ratings that you can't even see. Yea,
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So do we care about how much they make if
I meet a bad bitch at fucking Starbucks?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, this is a question because guys, we're gonna be
talking about all of this during this show, and I
see where they're going, I see where they're going with this.
It doesn't matter for a male because because males are
always supposed to be, you know, the provider, Like we don't.
We don't look at.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
It as like you you know what I mean, you're
with me, so like my whole thing is just like
this as us being providers, we're never looking at the
sense that oh, this is what you going on?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, never never. I'll give a damnage woever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
For females, and some some may disagree and say, no,
that's not how I're operating and stuff like that. But
I do feel like for a lot of females it's like, oh,
they will hit you with the oh I don't want
a bum for.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
An American born female, yes, I would say ninety five
percent of the right.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think that's why you have your past porpois now.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, And a lot of people hate. There's a lot
of people that hate. They will be like they'll be like, oh, wow,
I can't believe he went out there and spent X,
Y and Z on this female and like it's just
a different thing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You know, you got men looking for a more traditional
type of thing, right, you know, you got the connection
and loving type of woman down there.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well, if we're going to be traditional and be that provider,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
What am I looking for? I'm not looking for another dude. Yeah,
I don't want another dude. I gotta fight in that
I was all day.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
This is true, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I want something that's like I come home. I've been
working fighting all fucking day. I don't want to go
home and fight right like. I want to come home
to like you said that peace. I don't want to
come home and argue all day like God damn, I
don't want to be home.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I'm to be out with the borrow with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Listen, we're gonna get right into the people listening man,
the question of the episode. We're gonna start with this man. Listen, gentlemen,
I'm gonna ask you this, and I need your feedback.
Is tricking the new love language is tricking? The new
love language? Talk to me?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Can you give me some premise on this?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay? Tricking? My definition of tricking is like, listen, if
you are out here spending money on an individual to
gain more benefits, to gain more attention, to to up
your advantage.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
M hm oh.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This is where we have the new love language talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think if you're an ugly motherfucker, it might be right.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But if you get some ship working for you, your personality,
your looks, your appearance, your funny your funny funny is important,
your fitness level, all right?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think those can plain in your favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh no, definitely, that's one thousand. That's definitely play your favorite.
But I feel like, no matter what, you have to
spend money, like, oh, regardless, and and you know, everybody
has their definition of tricking. I feel like everybody has
their definition, like you know what I mean. My definition
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of tricking might be like, oh, I bought her a
new car.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's that's that's nasty, that's trick. But taking a woman
to dinner, that's the standard.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I feel like that's not a I personally don't feel
like tricking is taking a female out to dinner or
or some event or anything like that, because that's usually
the thing to do. But I feel like the unnormal
where you're like, you know what I mean, Oh, I
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was thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I bought you this bracelet from disgusting.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You're a nasty individual.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember. I thought about this other day.
I remember the last time I bought flowers, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So we have You need to be better, you need
to do better. He's like, I.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Haven't bought flowers for two years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
When I have these talks all the.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Day, we have a yeah, we have a debating, So
I need you to go first.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I need to a different view. Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, so he's he has a little bit more tradition.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I am a more traditional, old fashioned type of persons.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
A woman out, you're paying.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You're doing the little things door, You're a gentleman. Those
are the things I was raised you know on. I
enjoy doing. They make me feel good if.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I like the person. Okay, and you know what, I
love that. I love that you said about that. It's
it's that's your standard. So now now hear me out
walk with me. His standard might be this female's premium.
Mm hmmm, because you gotta understand something like a lot
(15:18):
of times people don't understand, like I feel like your level,
your standard are living. You do this all the time.
You're not going out of your way to do this. Yeah,
people don't understand that. Like I'm like, I'm not going
out of my way to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Like myself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But somebody else may
be looking at this like, oh my god, he's he's
going above and beyond, Like no sism, You're you're getting
the bare minimum from me. This is basic. We all
gotta eat, you know what I mean. But for somebody else,
they're like, oh my god, I'm gonna tell John I
(15:57):
want to marry him.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
No, But it'd be like that sometimes because I sit
back and I'm like, I don't ever bring out girls
to do things I don't want to do, right, Like
it's it's gonna be I'm doing this and if you
accompany with me, we're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I'm not gonna go out of my way to break
that standard of things that I would do as a baseline, Right.
But on the other side of things, I don't know.
I just sit back and I'm like, if I'm talking
to someone seriously, then I'll look for cues, like, you know,
does she It's not that I'm not paying right, especially
for the initial date or so, but I look for, oh,
(16:36):
is she offering the chip in? Is she offering to
do it? Just because I like to find that disrespect. Okay, okay,
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, I just it's just old fashioned things. I just
if a man is asking you out you yeah, you
pay right.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
But I look for it as like, oh I if
she's like I got the next one, then that's a
green flag to me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'll tell you what I do.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I do little secret moves and I'll call ahead and
have that bill paid for before we even go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
See, he's a savage. This is this is this is
what people are. Guysten gonna tell you this is what
this is. This is a side note, guys, this is
the person you gotta watch out for because see he
elevates that level and it goes from damn to damn.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I make a game out of it, you know what
I mean? Do you want to pay You have to
outdo me to pay for my mail. You have to
be not really sneaky. You're gonna be really sneaky.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
See John Johnson's strategists like, you know what I mean.
But if he has a downpack, people, you got a downpack.
But I hope you guys are taking notes. But let's
double back to the question. But do you think tricken
is a new love language? Do you feel that everybody,
everybody like and like I said, tricken is is biased
on based off however you define it. But do you
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feel that generally females out here wants you to do
the most?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I think it depends on her standard.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That's that baseline, right, because I think that going back
to so now, if you're in a situation where you're
a female and you're getting dinners paid for, right, and
you're going out and you're in Lambeaus, or you're going
out to Miami, you're going out to Dubai and all
this shit, your standard is gonna be fucking high. You
getting accustomed to certain things right, right, Because even for me,
I like, my new standard is this is this baseline
(18:25):
where I like, I like when girls do this shit, right,
because they're put in that work for me the same
way I put it in. For them, it's less transactional,
more relational. So for me it's a different standard, but
for them, maybe it is. Tricking is the standard. Because now,
especially for the younger girls, you see all this stuff, right,
they've been all over the world.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I'm like, god, damn, like you know what I mean, Like,
and how is this happening?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Because tricking at something either way, at the bare minimum,
you're spending time right, time that I could be spent
making money, that could be spent making money right put
the vehicle right right at the bare minimum, at the
bare minimum, right, So something is always transaction or you're tricking.
Something is getting paid for right in some way, it's
(19:08):
time money, it's some fucking way. But at the end
of the day, it's like, how much are you willing
to sacrifice for the person that you're with, Because if
I don't like the girl, you know, we will kind
of like it'll be a disproportionate balance. But then if
I like you, then we're kind of like meeting halfway,
or I might do a little bit more because I'm
like okay, like I want more time. But it's not
(19:29):
going to be too much because the moment you for me,
the moment that you start treating them a little bit different,
they peep that. They're like, oh, like he's given me
this princess treatment. He really likes me. I can kind
of take advantage because they're they're wicked. They're way more developed,
especially emotionally, than we are.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So I could see that point.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's why I always go for that transaction, the relation
over transaction. That's why we have the difference of opinion
on this part.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
For longevity in the relationship, For longevity in relationship good points.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think we just him and I just see things.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So listen, guys, before before the show, guys, listen, before
we end the show, Guys, we are going to we
are going to tell each other what is the most
tricking that we've done, Like the craziest trick move we've
ever done before the show.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, because I think we've been like that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We've we've all been in a situation where we're like,
I forced it, bro, Like you you're just like, you
know what I mean? Like this was, this was I
went above and beyond. When you go home and you say,
I'm a fucking yeah, We're gonna tell you, guys before
we get listen, let me ask you, guys. This is
spending money to look successful clothes, cars, watches, treating yourself
(20:53):
or tricking society into believing you made it? Is that
once again, guys, is spending money to look successful on closed, cars, watches,
treating yourself or tricking society into believing you made Talk
to me. You go first on this one.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Okay, okay, okay, because so I sit on a double
standard with this, right, just because I sit back with
a lot of.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
DJ's rappers, people that own restaurants.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's uh tricking till you got it right. It's like
a fake it till.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You make it right.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
So for me, I think on the other side, like, oh,
why are you flashing out if you don't got it right,
because then when the real situation happens where you need
to pop out, it's like damn, I get the money right.
But on the other side, if your goal is to
grow your brand and all this other stuff, it's been
proven time and time again. I think you just look
(21:48):
at rappers for the bare minimum, right, crazy chains out
in a certain lifestyle. People want to be like this person,
so they're going to try to go and emulate this
lifestyle so we others can follow.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But those are.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Sheep right right, right, right right, those sheep.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
But I think at the bare minimums, like, don't trick
if you don't got it, because then the situation comes
and you're in the section, you're doing some crazy shit,
you're out of the restaurant, You're like, like, you know,
I propose that I look like or I look like
a certain way on this you know, this application, but
in real life the same't meme.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The people I know with real money you.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Don't know they have, Yeah right, those.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are the ones. Yeah, get up.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Listen, You're at the table of twenty people.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They get up, they pay for the whole dinner, they leave,
They don't say anything at all.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You don't even know what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They got miss mismatched and shirt yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they you know, they got the new
Balance shoes on, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
They might have ripping their shirt.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But everybody knows about the restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah, everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Everybody knows. Everybody's shaking your hand, Yeah everybody, And you're like,
what is going on?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Like why shaking?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like you know what I mean? Because it's like, yo,
I have a great bullshit detector with this stuff. Really,
you know, I feel like I feel like a lot
of times we all have indications on like you know,
you can't sell me bullshit. We know the prices type
shit like we have that like where you could tell
if someone's like either just selling themselves way too high
(23:12):
or you're like, yo, bro, you're doing way too much.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean you have your outliers, but generally, super
super wealthy people are very humble.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You don't know some people some people. And I feel
like once you get to that, once you get in
that space of like you've you've accomplished everything in life,
where you like, you bought the yacht, you bought the
manch and you bought your best you bought your dream car,
you bought your dream everything, it's kind of like, all right,
(23:44):
I'm over this, yeah, like you know what I mean.
But I feel like you have to get to that
point where you are now comfortable with just living with yourself.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I think that for all of us, you should be
comfortable with your self living with yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, I think so too, what you want, but.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Like that's a whole other topic. It's crazy other topic.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So, but but do you think that coming back to
the question, do you think that it's treating to do
this for each other? Like, you know what I mean,
And I'm biased on it too. I do feel like
everybody deserves nice things. I do believe like if you're
like this, you know what, fuck it, I've I've worked hard.
(24:27):
I'm gonna go buy me those red boxes. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But not if you can't make your rent next month's.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And and and that's all. That's an adult. That's being
an adult, Like you know what I mean, Like if
you if you are sacrificing more for a little for less,
you know what I mean. Like, it's just it doesn't
make sense. This doesn't make sense for you to blow
the bag on on this and then next thing, you know,
you have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think a lot of people can do, though, and
I've been a person that has done the same thing. Right,
you go out, you spend the crazy amount of money,
and they you're like, damn, like what was that doing?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Like I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
It's your tricking, Like you got it, but at the
time you probably shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Should I have those.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Days when I was younger, you know, fly down to Miami,
spend five g's on clothes, come home like.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Damn, yeah, I got twenty one. I just spent five g's.
I'm fucking closed.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I means I meeting Ramen noodles tonight. But and
that's what I'm saying, though, I feel like, what, like
what do you feel that for you guys? What do
you think is the happy medium?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What are you gotta You always gotta work on your bag, right,
always gotta be expanding your bag. But in the process
of doing that, I think it's good to do nice
things for yourself.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right, you want the rolex, you want the nice car,
you want the nice house. I think those things are
important markers in somebody's life, right, right, Things to your goals,
things to progress to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You know, this is what I want.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm working towards this, not Hey, I'm gonna buy this,
then I'm gonna figure out everything else after.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, I'll just pick up more hours.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, you know, I'll work. I'll get another job.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I like it. I like it. Let me ask you
guys this, Yeah, because this is gonna get. This is
gonna get nitty gritty.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It's like J's with no car. You keep buying J's
but you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Have a car. Yeah, and you're walking yeah, correct, if
you're on a bus or you know, yeah, it'll makes sense.
Like you got this crazy burking bag, but you're sitting
next to me on your phone.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You're gonna burking bag and you're sitting next to me
on the train, fake.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Fake, Yeah, I got I got bigger things to talk.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It doesn't even matter if it's real, right, It's like,
why no.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It doesn't, it doesn't at this point in time. You
should be taking an uber or something like that. If
you really got it like that, you should never be
like and I'm not and I'm not listening, guys. No
disrespect for people that take public transportation, but if you
got a burkeing bag that costs X, Y and Z,
you shouldn't be on the train.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
And that's also more danger because then it's a lot
of other people that don't give.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
A have a couple more gifts from Peter.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We do and see, yeah, we have a couple of
these key chain belts I swear for.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I swear for. Lord yo, listen, Peter, like, I don't
you get the pink one. John, it's like a belt Keechen.
I was like, oh, it's a weightlifting belt. It's like,
that's what, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That man because he's affiliated with Cardell and Cardello does
the belt.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They sell him at a n C.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Right, it's crazy, Like fun fact, I've never used I
just got to no no only time you no. But
the only time I use it, and I'll show you
the video is when I picked up a car. Neither
hear here, bro, I feel bad that It's like, man
is strong? All right, listen, listen, We're gonna get right
(27:49):
into it. Is paying for dates a real investment in
the relationship or just temporary rent for their time? Talk
to me, get stupid? Yeah yeah, yeah, you won't make it.
Yeah yeah, now we get it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You can roll into it. And I think I can
add into what you what you?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Uh? So?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
First of all, I think that dating is a hobby.
It's a big hobby. Right, You're spending money on something
else that you You could spend money on your car. You
can spend money on anything. It's it's another hobby. So
I think the first.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Point to look at it is a good way to
look at The.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
First thing I even posted the other day was like,
what is your goal?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If your goal is just to go out and have
fun and show with a bunch of women and do
whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
That's cool. Like that, that's cool, Like that's your goal.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
If your goal is to go out and date, And
now you're like, okay, I'm now turning this hobby into
something that I have a goal towards. Then you know
you're paying for dates you're going out, you're doing all
this stuff. Just know that you have a goal in mind.
Don't go out and just waste a whole bunch of
money on prospects. Sure that you're just you're just wasting
time and money. Have that value, have that foundation before
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or anything. Because yes, I do enjoy having women around
all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But at the same time, like I said, if it's.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not investing in you and you don't have a goal
in mind, you're just living out, You're doing nothing, You're
just tracking for fucking I don't even know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm with you, I'm picking up with you up now.
But however, let me take this looking at the gay
last half empt have full What if you invested and
you're like, all right, cool, I like her, I'm really
feeling these vibes. I really like this. I want to
go ahead with this boom boom. But however, she doesn't
envision it the same way.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Goodbye though, So like, you're gonna pick up on these
cues on the first date.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Of course, of course you're gonna pick up these cues
on a first date. But at the same time, it
just comes back to it where it's just like, wow,
I just paid for her time, like you know what
I mean. Like it's it's like I just paid for
for to just keep her attention. This is good because
you got to think about it, like all right, first
things first, first things, first, guess what happens? Where are
you taking that? Okay, but John, but that's what I'm
(30:10):
saying to you that that first day first date indicator.
This is easy, This is easy. But that's what I'm
saying though. Where are you taking? Where you taking restaurant? Restaurant?
Where are you taking? Where you're taking a restaurant? Now?
First day? Talk to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
First date is simple things, right, First date.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Is is coffee's go for you want to get an
ice cream, Let's go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Let's go to the beach and simple things right, You
get to know the person.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Listen, if they're not interested in doing something like that,
you're getting to know each other. And they want to
go to Ocean Prime or this expensive restaurant, and then
because that's it, they're looking for something transactional where you
might not be looking for that, right, you might be
looking to get to know the things.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
And then you can look at that that that's not
a coalescent goal. We don't have the same goal in mind.
Your goal is to go out and get winded dying.
Mine is to find out how you tick.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And not only that it ain't ticking. It's an easy escape. Yeah,
you know, coffee, ice cream, walk beach.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But oh I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I got something to do.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know what I mean. Okay, Now, let's give some insight.
Let's give some game for the people that live in
not too much game, No, not too much game. People
that live in Boston wintertime, in a winter time, Where
are you the time? Where are you taking them? See?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You gotta yeah, coffee man, coffee, No coffee coffee shop,
you gotta. You gotta figure out a couple of your
own spots, right, you know, sit down for an hour,
you get some coffee.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, here's my stats. I don't I'm not I'm not
a good talker. I ain't got a good personality. That's no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, here's the stats for and that's viewing and listening.
I'm an extrovert. I'm shy. Okay, where where what where
(32:08):
are you suggesting this person take them or do with
that person? Like? You know what I mean? Because because
it's got to be very basic. But no, it has
to be basic. But here's the thing though, a lot
of people, viewers, listeners, people that have personality. You got personality,
you got personality, you got humor, you got humor. We
could we could manage in different different areas. We bring
(32:36):
the vibes where other locations set the vibes, like you
know what I mean. Like, but that's what I'm saying
to you, That's what I'm saying. But for the people
that don't know how to bring the vibes, where do you,
gentlemen suggest they should go?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I suggest they would work on themselves so they can
bring the vibes.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That rights, Like, you need to work.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
There's feeling comfortable on yourself, right, but then there's also
you need to also be outside. And the reason being
is because confidence is built through practice. Right, So you're
not gonna you can go and work on yourself at
home all day, but then you go out to the
bar and you still have this approach anxiety, right, you
still have stuff that's going on, so you need to
break that shell of just going out. So I think
(33:22):
the bar, any bar is an okay place even going out.
Actually if it depends. Like I said, your goal. I
think the bar is okay for practice if you're random
and just talk and get your conversation on really, you know,
break that shell, you know, and then once you progress
from there, then you could start going out to other places.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think the younger guys have a real problem with
approaching women cold.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You know, they definitely do, whereas you get a little older.
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Like I told you guys earlier about Babe Ruth, Right,
he was the home run leader, but he also letting strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So you can't be afraid to just put that ship
out there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's like you have to realize you have to be
comfortable with like h not a bad game, like you
know what I mean, Like yo, like you know, I
have a better game tomorrow that's got two locked eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
But my thing is like, when you go in and
do something, did you die? If not, then it probably
wasn't that bad.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You're never right, you're dead right, And even then then
you wouldn't give a fuck because your dad. So it's
like did it kill you?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
No? So you can go up and talk to her
if she says she don't like you or she has
a boyfriend, whatever, just move on.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Who gives a fuck, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, it's probably better off that way then you trying
extra and then get played later on down the line.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You You My advice to all those extroverts out there, guys,
people that don't have the vibes, that can't bring the vibes.
I think that you need to go into a setting
that actually allows you to assist with the vibes. Like
like these two gentlemen are saying, like, you know, go
somewhere interactive. I I would go somewhere where you would
(35:05):
have to do more things together where it's like what bowling,
Like no, no, no, but like perfect example, like level
ninety nine or something like that, you know what I mean,
Like a place that it allows you to like have
this communication where you guys got to figure out something together.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And you escape you.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I feel like that would be a beneficial that's actually.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
A cool first place to bring somebody, Kay, yeah, escape
from Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You see what I'm saying. It's a little gay, but
it's cool.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, But something in your wheelhouse that's not weird to
because because like if we go out to some like
spot and I'm like this ain't even men, Like why
are you there?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, Like, I'm not taking you to dinner. I don't
have nothing to talk about. I'm not going to make
you laugh. Like dinner is a very intimate thing. It's
super I think you're gotta be really into.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Somebody to want to take them.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
It's almost like an interview you right, like you're talking.
I want to get close to you.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I want to drink. I want to have a good
time with you. If we had dinner, it's it's like this, right,
Like we're just talking.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So eating is very intimate thing. Yeah, So it's like
and it's more familiar. Yeah, Okay, let me ask you
guys this, If you spend money on someone and expect
something in return, is it tricking or is it transactional honesty?
I'm so okay, okay, okay, I want to say. He said,
if you spend money on someone and expect something in return,
(36:31):
is it tricking or transactional honesty? He's ready, he's walking.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
This is this is.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
This is This is called COVID contracts. And I think
a lot of guys get this fucked up. A lot
of guys, like a lot of nice guys get this
really fucked up. They think that because I do something,
you owe me something. Absolutely the fuck not, absolutely the
fuck not.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
If you're doing something for somebody, it should be out
of your.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Heart, right, it should be completely like if I lose something,
if I lose, don't give what you don't have, right, So, like,
if I lose something out of this transaction that we had,
this venture, whatever it is, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Okay, because I was gonna do it anyway. I was
gonna like this is all love. It's okay. I didn't
lose anything. But now if I'm giving more and I'm
giving more than this is this expectation that you have,
and the expectation is never gonna get fulfilled, and then
you build resentment, right, So you need to go out
and just do what you love. And if someone doesn't fuck.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
With you, that's okay, that's completely okay. It's like I
wish you the best, Like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You couldn't have said it any better, buddy. That's the
way that I operate.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So I'm saying, so you're speaking, you're speaking in terms.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Of just generally, yeah, but especially with dating, especially with
my dudes, are like I took you out to dinner
about your flower opened your door. I did all this
and then I didn't get to have sex. It's like, bro,
like why were you expecting this?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
But you know what I feel like, A like a
lot of times, a lot of different females create that atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I mean, you're gonna be able to see but that's
what I'm saying, experience and that's what number and that's
what and.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's what it is though. But I feel like certain
people create that atmosphere where it's just kind of like
that's the vibes I was getting from you, like you
know what I mean, and I and I'm with you
and I'm with you, totally with you, Whereas it comes
down to it where it's just like yo, listen, if
I do something for you, it's out of kindness of
my heart, like you know what I mean. Like I'm
not like you know what I mean, I'm not going
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above and beyond like I said, like we were just
talking about our standards. This is my standard. I'm not
doing nothing crazy Like You're like, oh damn, yo, you're
going above and beyond and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, I'm never really going into anything with any expectations, right,
I'm doing everything that that I want to do. This
is how I operate, correct, So you know, whatever happens
after that happens.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But you know, but that's what I'm saying, and I'm
with you on that. Like my whole thing is just
like you should not have to do it into things
expecting something to return.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Well, I think as a guy, you have to also
look at how many times you might get burnt by
doing things like that. Now, how many times do I
touch the stove and Tom like, I'm done getting burned? Right, Like,
you have to come back and be like, Okay, this
isn't what I'm expecting.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I'm coming out.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
For this, I'm coming out for you. If I'm expecting
something out of somebody, like, it's always going to fail.
And especially okay, okay, if you're if you're doing things
and you're trying to get that person to be on
your side or you're trying to get that person to change,
I means you really don't even like them for who
they are, right because they weren't going to sleep with
you in the first place, and now you're doing all
the sexual work.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
That's weird, bro, Like, just do what you love.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And if they go and move along with your whole process,
the things you got going on, that's that's a plus.
But if you're going out expecting ships to.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
The people that I would take particularly want in general, right, yeah,
I want to even regularly, yeah, or be about how
you operate to be not to like this fake thing,
right yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, it makes purpose sense. And it's it's one of
those things where it's just like after a while, like
you like you guys are both saying like you have
to figure out are they with me for the long
term or they with me for the short term.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Well, you'll never know about the long term, right, because
things happen, people change.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I think either way, as long as you're on your path,
whether or not they choose to be on your boat
is how things operate.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And if they don't choose, it's okay. You could jump
off the boat.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
So I got my own boat that's going straight the.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Thing take me right to the show.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I get to other boat, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So scenario scenario for a gentleman or lady that has
been going through demise of dating, hasn't seen the results.
They've done all the due diligence by you know, paying
for that person paying for this person paying for this person,
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but haven't seen them as results. What advice do you
give to them?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think that you need to up your selection game process, right,
your results aren't paying out for you.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You need to really look at yourself.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Hold on, do you think it's up or down yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Like, since you need to look at yourself, it's never
their fault, right, And what do I really it is?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It isn't their fault, right, It's to look at yourself.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
You're the common denominator and what are you bringing to
the table?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Right? But that's what I'm saying though, so like you
know what I mean. Say, let's all right, I go
on five dates and I've missed on five dates because
five that's a long time.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
No, I've seen no he has a because I've seen
a thing where I've had other girls tell me like, oh,
dudes have had a five date rule where if you
don't sleep with me in five dates on whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I'm like, I've never even had to think about this ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
I've never had to be like, oh, well, if she
doesn't sleep with me, bro, what what are you thinking about?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Usually know what's up after the first day you want
to Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Usually you know after the first ten to fifteen minutes,
if you want to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And if you if she's interesting, if.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
There's some sort of future or anything, you know what
I mean that sex?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
So oh but yeah, because you just all you gotta
do is ask questions. They'll tell you the world.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You just gotta you just gotta know how to ask.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'll tell you that that's true.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's when they start asking about you.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
You ask about that. Yeah, always, always, You gotta be
a mystery.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
People have to talk about themselves.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Oh my god, people the only thing they know the
most about.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Right, People love to talk about themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
We all do. And let me Okay, okay, this is
gonna get a little a little debate. Is little dicey
a little dicey? Is there a difference between a sugar
daddy and a gentleman?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Oh that was saying, yeah, bro, really bro, we're going
back to again. Yeah no, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
This is this is this is this.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
My perspective is like this. Okay, you have a female, young,
female educated, whatever the case is. She feels that you
are like you're supposed to do certain things right. This
is fair like so like My thing is just like this,
I pay for I pay for your your your nails
(43:25):
to get done. You're here to get done. Yeah, I
pay I pay for I pay for this, I pay
for that. Now depends on how that person defines it.
I might just be being a gentleman. Now, depends on
her standard. And that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Bill Belchick, Well he's talking like Bill Belichick, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
A woman should be able to maintain her look on
her own.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, but John, I'm with you on that. But see
that's the problem though, the problem is like this, the
past always haunts the future because guess what, this dude
in the past was tricky on this girl that you're
now dating.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Well, and that's the thing, but this actually happens all
the time in my building too.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
This is weird. We're in trouble. We're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
We actually started dropping too many gems.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's what it.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Illuminati is like, absolutely fucking yo. Absolutely, Hey, how.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Many times this place caught on fire?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Today?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Never? One, two, three, four times? Four times? Oh? Really
fire yo, bro? Like they was a day. Hey, when
I pulled up, Mike was leaving. They were leaving look
at alady on a camera like that's nasty.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well this is mother.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
What was that fifteen seconds and went away? Yeah, fire
out fast, Yeah yeah they closed the microwave.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Whorn. So you yeah, coming back to that, like, it's
just one of those things where it's if you define
that as you know what I mean, You've just left
this girl, but you've gave her the world. But now
you're with this girl, You're like, whoa, You're exited all
of that. AJ did all of that for you.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
I think this comes back to seeing what for me.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I look at things statistically what is successful and what
is not successful. So I've done things where I've spent
I've saved people from getting their cars repossessed. I've spent
money on when I was younger, right, like if they
were going to school, or I paid all the bills
for years, right. And you look at how many times
certain situations like this are successful and what you gain
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in the end, or where you stand in comparison to
the other person. You save this other person from many situations.
You did all this stuff for somebody else, But then
you come out of it and you're like, oh, like
that person came up and I stayed the same right
where you could have taken all that.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Stuff and put it into yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
I look back and I'm like, know that you're not
going to not do it for somebody else. But there
is a different standard, like you're saying, for the millionaire,
they don't give a fuck, Like they're like, oh, I
have this girl.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what I mean million if you get sixty
five million.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Because now that's their new standard. Yo.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
We've gone out to Miami and girls had their whole
dinners paid, they were going to clubs, and the dude
wasn't even he was out here in Boston.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Everything was fucking paid for everything. Oh go to this restaurant.
Everything's all set. You just got to go, right. You
can bring a friend, They're paid for two right.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
And I just sit back on the other side, like, oh,
this is a different standards, different lifestyle, and you kind
of have to live with it between your means. And
if that girl is expecting these things, then let them be.
What the dude that's going to do all those things?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
But if not, then, right do you feel do you
feel like the success level based is on on how
many how many attempts you take?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Because you have like you said, like you're gonna You're
gonna fucking swing until you hit And that's in everything,
and most people are gonna fucking fail a million times
until you fucking hit it big. The point is that
you have to fucking fail you and it's not even
fail is such a bad word. You just have to
go through it and do the trials and tripulations until
and you're only dumb if you keep doing the same
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fucking ship.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
You have to learn from yourself and others and pivot right.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Always, he said, always. Fucking figure. Okay, let me ask
you guys this, who's worse, the one tricking or the
one happily accepting the trick all thepting?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Really yeah, really, yeah, I think it's I feel like, dude, yeah,
I feel like it's half an half.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I feel like it's half an half if you are
because okay, now we're in an age of social media
where you know, you have tons of people saying like,
oh my god, you know you know this dude he
said that he was gonna take me fly by.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Go with him, go with him, but take me too,
actually to actually does he have money like that? Like
you take us both?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I'm like this bring me back, so like.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, use his money and bring us something.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Matter of fact, you just use one of those.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Shots, bring me a shot glass from back, like you
know what I mean, You're like, oh my god, Like
you know what I mean. I'm encouraging take this deal.
But at the same time, though it's it sucks because.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I don't have your money, not yet yet.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Not yet. But at the same time, like you said,
like that person that says sixty five year old millionaire
or whoever, whoever the case is, you got Google Bucks.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
He's got great pubes too, though, so correct.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
But at the same time, you could trick off easier
than we trick off. We could trick off by saying, hey,
let's our trick off to them is like, oh what,
he's gonna take you to a nice, nice steak dinner.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, that's cool. You're gonna fuck this old guy though.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
Yeah, that's rough, right, you know you could be some
of them, don't though. He picks. I know girls that
make money off the beat picks. That's crazy. Is that
the new Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Find all right, but that's that's there, right, You got
some dude.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Let's go back to the.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Some dude paying for you and all this other stuff.
There is some sort of expect expectation.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yeah right, is that contract right?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
So where this girl has to fuck this old dude.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Because the dude isn't dumb. He's not just doing all this.
He's not a millionaire for no fucking reason.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's a businessman with business business.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
It's just like this. It's like I don't know if
you've seen that that movie War Dogs with Jonah Hill
and all that. He went to the club and he
said to this chick. He was like, Yo, what's up?
What's your number? He's like this, you know what, he's
three grand Let's skip to the fifth day. What's up,
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Let's go to my house? He said. It just like that,
like YO, likes it. That's what it is. It's kind
of like one of those things where it's it's like, bro,
like somebody has that bread can be. But that's what
I'm saying, John, you could skip the listen, But.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I don't like, you can be mad because I've seen
girls at the club that go through and you're you're
trying to talk to them. They're talking to the old
dude and they're outside with the PEGANI you.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
Know what I mean, they're getting they're locking in. They're
locking in.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I'm happy fucking.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Get pussy that way. That's fine me. I like the
whole attraction thing. I need a girl to be wanting
my ship for me to be into it. Like I
can't just fuck to fuck. A girl has to has
to want it, you know what I mean? Mean for
me to be I can't be. I just couldn't be
me myself. I can't speak right, I can't trick. I
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A girl has to want to fu.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Let's go back to the is it is it the
guy that's tricking that's the problem, or is it the
girl you said, the girl that's happily accepting this trick?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
All right, so maybe have fifty every track track.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Because it's true.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Right, But this is a debate we're talking.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
You think it's about stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
I think I'm on the other side. I think it's uh.
I think it's purely the guys problem, right because.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
The juice over there, absolutely, Yeah, Look my ship's empty.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Look, I think it's the guys problem, right because.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Hey, thanks man, you got you take personal checks?
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I actually do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
I think it's the guys that create this perpetual problem, right,
because one they might be spending a lot of money
just to get a type of thing, and then the
ones that don't spend money might be sitting on the
outside like, oh, you're not I don't.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
Got the money to spend.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
At the end of the day, it's like it's that
expectation thing, like are you spending a lot of money
to get this one thing?
Speaker 5 (52:14):
It's never the girl's problem.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
Because if we didn't fucking do it, the same shit
with likes on Instagram. If we didn't do it, we
didn't in box them like crazier. We didn't offer oh,
you know you look beautiful and all this.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Other and then I mean neither right. I've seen girls
in boxes that are crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Just talking about themselves.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
I would never say, but they're like, I think we're
the problem because now, if we played the game evenly
on the field, then there wouldn't be no need for
me to go out and be like, oh, like I.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Got to go through. But guys are the problem.
Speaker 8 (52:43):
Let me.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
It's competition. It's competition, but that competition.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
It comes back down to it where you're saying, like, yo,
you bring the bad you bring the band, I bring
the band. That person didn't know how to bring the bad.
That's what he brings bad.
Speaker 5 (52:56):
But I think at the end of the days, the money.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
But that's the thing though.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
But know where it goes, just the money, but you
know you should know where it goes.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
But that But that's the thing though. I feel like
every group, every group, every male group, has one person
in each section. You have that one guy that loaded. Sure, yeah,
you had that one guy. He's funny. You got that
one guy.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
He's fit, he's a good looking one.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
He's.
Speaker 5 (53:28):
He doesn't have everything, but he like.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Just groups, we have that one person. So it's just
kind of like, that's that person's infinity stone. That's that person.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
We get the gauntlets.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
What's your infinity stone. I feel like I have a
I have a happy balance. I think I'm a happy balance.
Like you know what I mean. I got an okay personality.
I think you got a.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Good person, great person.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I think you get a good person.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
I think you sell yourself short.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I think you're very friendly and very I think you're
very forward in a way that's comfortable with people and complimentary.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I appreciate that, Like you
know what I mean. Like my thing is just like
I don't have a one stone that just dominates everything else.
Like I try to be very level on everything where
I'm always challenging myself to be better on this one,
on this one. That's real talk. And that's one time,
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like you know what i mean, Like my thing is
just like this, I'm like, all right, cool a, you
need to work on this now. Okay, let me bring
this down, let me elevate this one up here, like
you know what I mean. That's how I envision it.
When when it comes down for me personally, other people
they may be like, all right, let me just go
for my highlights.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
And it's fair. It's fair. Sure. I mean what works
for you works for you, and that's and that's what
it is. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like if you go to right, you know what I mean,
if you're a fastball hitter, you're a fastball.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
You're a fastball hitter. That's your that's your thing. But
if I could, if I could hit you with the knuckleball,
if I could with a curveball twelve to six, I'm
doing all right. Yeah, I got a nice little portfolio,
you know what I mean. Yeah, but I I really
truly I think, honestly down the line, people, I think
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it's fifty to fifty. You know what I mean. I
know I understand that you're saying that.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
It's I think we're the problem.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I think no, I think I think I do agree
that to the point where we're the problem. Because but
like I said, everybody has their specialty. Yeah, and and
it's it's one of those things where the Internet is endless,
and I could be an Idaho talking to a girl
(55:41):
in Miami telling her, Hey, listen, don't worry about it.
It's on me. You and your girls could fly down
to Vegas. I got a hotel suite for you, guys,
enjoy yourself, happy birthday.
Speaker 8 (55:53):
Crazy to do that for me, Like, why can't I
have the I want to.
Speaker 5 (56:03):
Be at a fucking Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
It is not appealing.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
It's really like the opposite way when they for you.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I'd rather do that.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I mean, I don't know. Listen, before we get out
of here, any positive or.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Negative, it's always positive with this girl.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
This like any positive negative feedback or not not negative feedback,
anything that you want to give to the people for
whatever guidance growth.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Stay up, keep pushing, keep working on yourself, working on
your fitness, work your health right, keep up your appearance.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
As you can see him.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Guys, I think these things matter majorly in life. Keep
up your health, stay looking young, stay positive, believe in God.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I mean, these things are a They've worked for me,
They're a plus for me.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
I feel like I feel like drawn Mike's fortune.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
People the free time, you.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Can be a good side job.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Right, all right, here's what you got.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
No, very similar to him, Like, always work on yourself.
I don't think there's a point in which you get.
Speaker 5 (57:20):
To not work on yourself. Especially as a guy.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
You have to work and love on yourself over everybody else.
There's always that thing where if my cup is in full,
what what way or how am I gonna fill your
cup that's not full?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (57:37):
Like, you have to putting that work for yourself. And
if you don't, then like and you're looking through.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Other people, real people, they're gonna fill your cup.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
Yeah, Like yeah, it's always like when you look at
the people that have more money, the people that are
bigger than you, the people that are in better positions
than you, they want to help you succeed all the
way and they want to Like, I've never been in
a position where at least the very minimum. If you're
not cocky and you're not an asshole, and you're all
the ship, and you're asking for advice from somebody that
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is in a better position in whatever field you're looking
to propelling or excelling, then that person usually is willing
to help. Usually willing to help because they see a
good struggle a.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
Good person most and most of most of the time
it is.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
But if you're cocky, you think your ship, don't think
or whatever, like, you have to work on yourself and
then be okay with asking for help, right, because you're
always growing.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
Yeah, if you want to grow, Yeah, you're always willing.
You're never not, You're never enough. Rging, stop being entitled,
work on yourself, love.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yourself dos I love it. I love it all I
got to say for this for this particular episode. Listen.
Money may not buy you happiness, but it's sure buys
rent for attention. I want to think, I want to
think a I want to thank John, thank you coming
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out on here. And I don't want to thank.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Peter, especially Peter.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
That's how we're getting paid. Listen, Listen. I feel like
I feel like he needs to drop a promo tode
you going on to Peter in an C.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Right, he's on the corner of Ferry Street and Broadway
and Effett take care of you.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Telling John sent you, he'll know who it is. Right,
I'm in there often.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
You need a weight belt, you need protein, creatine pre workout.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Peter's got you. He's the man, handsome Pete.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
I feel like in his car like John has a
little guys man. Thank you guys for walking out with
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oh oh oh diddy buck oh shit man. Listen man,
Welcome back to another episode of A Pizza Consequences, Episode
one forty six. Listen, guys, this is this episode title
is Tricking and Treating. Tricking or Treating Part two, I
should say part two. Listen. I got two gentlemen here
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as guests. I got my man AJ back in the building.
What's the word? How you? And I got mister John,
the strongest man out here. Man. That's crazy man, what's up?
How you doing? That's that's tough on year. I mean,
I'm good. Oh, first and foremost, you know what I mean.
These hats. You gotta see these hats, man, These are
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not These are unrecognizable hats on the show. But shout
out to a n C. The supplement store. Shout out
to Peter.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yep, that's a sponsor today.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, all right, all right, you can. You can see
who goes there. He got a membership at a little bit.
What's the word? Gents? How you doing? Man? How was
your summer? It was good? It was good.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Sad it's over? You know, h are you really? Yeah?
I'm a big summer guy. I function well in the
hot weather.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I feel like you is that the time that you
feel like you're more adventures?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I can just wear a tank top, right?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You see that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So that works for me?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
He's like, yo, if I can wear a tank top everywhere?
Where's the craziest place you wear tanks up at? What
would you say? Don't say a funeral because John, But
you know, you know what if I wore, yeah, a
tuxedo shirt, brow.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Went to the gym, we had to all wear yeah,
crazy spot.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't know, dude, I I fucking wear these things everywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I don't like a wedding. I like to dress up
and look good. Okay. I mean I'll basically wear this
thing everywhere other than like outer dinner.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Okay, but it's under. It's under during dinner.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Just because I haven't been to jail.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So when you wear something like this under your shirt,
that means you were in jail, you know what I mean,
like a beater or a tank top.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm not in. He's like, I'm not in yet.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, save it just in case.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh man, what's so true?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Day? I've been outside, you know, been outside at the
clubs and in the summertime, changing my lifestyle. But I mean,
I'm typically a homebody. If you didn't know me before
this year, like I wasn't outside as I am now,
and it's a different journey. But I like the experiences
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I get to have and the people I get to
meet by being outside.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So you feel like you've taken a different approach from your.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Previous years, Like, yeah, I think there's a lot more
opportunity by just stepping out and being in that uncomfortable
spot rather than being inside or just being around the people.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know that was it a progression to get here
or was it kind of like, yo, you know what,
I'm outside?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean I've been out since February every single weekend,
just putting in work.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And the places where I'm at now, I couldn't even.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Tell you, Like if I would have told you, oh,
you're going to be at these places now, at car shows,
at all these clubs doing all this stuff. Now, I
would have been like, you're a fucking liar, You're a
goddamn liar. But I think just a little bit of work,
Like I wouldn't be here today, that's what's up. I
wouldn't be here today if I wasn't venturing out and
trying to meet people and trying to be more outside
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than I was before previous years.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So you say that you was more of an introvert.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah, I was always, especially when I was DJing,
I was always in the booth. So now you get
to see the outside of Oh what happens in these sections?
You know what what because a lot of these people
are normal people. They're not just people that come out
to the club all the time. They have regular ass jobs.
So you get to go out and you get to see, oh,
this is what you do, this is how you function
in life. And I think it's a lot more of
you spreading out your wings rather than oh, we're just
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going out for drinks. Oh we're just going out to
you know, go and do crazy things. It's like, oh,
you get to go and market yourself.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So you feel like you got a greater sense of
appreciation for other people.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, that's what's up man, that's cool. I know you
guys both crying.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, Yes, I love traveling.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Every time. Every time I look at John's Instagram, it
is either Miami.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Or Miami to go to. It is rarely is it's
to go.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
To where where's your go to spa in Miami? Like where?
Like where? Honestly, the people out there when I.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Go to Miami, I just sort of transport whatever I'm
doing here there.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I like to go out to eat. I like to
eat good. I like to hit the gym. There's a
few gyms out there, Boxer Gym, Covolution, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like are you are you in like the wind Wood
area and the Brokeol.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Win Wood's good. I go to Winwood. I was just
to Miami last week. I hit up Winwood a few times.
I like Brickle and it was a few spots. I
hit up to Delray. I like del Ray. It's a
little more chill, a little more laid back. Some good
places to eat. Fort Lauderdale, I mean South Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I love it. Before I get to like, do you
feel like the vibes are more in your favor? Over there,
verse she's here.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
People women in general are more open to communication, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, so they're more okay, okay, I'll see what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Why is that though? Why is that? Can we talk
about that?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know, there's a lot of competition down there, right,
there's a lot of competition.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
So if you have.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So if we push it to a subject a woman, right,
if you have a woman, let's say she's a nine here,
Oh no, she's a four?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Oh yeah, Miami, she's a four five?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Right, and then solid four?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I mean, and you got dimes down there that are nice,
sweet engaging.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
We'll talk to you.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
And that woman who thinks she's a ten here or
a nine here is in the air, got a humble herself?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, she got a humble self. Now do you think,
I know you go to Miami too? Do you do
you go to the same.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I went earlier this year?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I just went to Brico and my and Miami Beach
South Beach? Right, Yeah, it's a different feel. I can
completely agree, even locally, right. So I came from Central
mass and then I moved over here. So when you
move from Central Mass to over here. Central Mass five
might be a Boston three two, right like and even
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a Boston seven or Boston ten is a is a
Miami seven. Miami seven is of ten is a fucking Russian.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
She could be a sleeper first round. Oh, because there's
a lot of sleep, you know what I mean. Where
it's just kind of like, oh, but there's definitely where
if you've been at you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
More to what he said is like, there's levels to it,
this levels of ship, especially where you're at, because there
is an abundance I'll go to some clubs and you
know where you we might be some of the I
would say, more attractive guys at a certain spot you
go to a different club, or you're you're below fucking
average and they got money, right, so you're not even
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playing in the same field.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, I do. I do. I do feel like, you know,
it's Boston's very diverse. Diverse in the sense that you
could go to Scorpion Book and then switch up and
go down the street to Cavoo his spots. Yeah, and
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then you that transition, you're like, oh, someplace you might
have to really try hard. And in other.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Places yeah, it might just.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Be bringing you appetizers every two minutes, like hey, what's up?
You know, like, no, thank you, I don't want no
old herbs like you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But also different when the lights come on. When the
lights come on, Oh it's so bro so yeah yeah, no,
I I bro. I got humble one time. I am
very fucking humble. So we go out every single week
and we got girls always with a. I have a
buddy that he dates girl very similar to you, right,
(09:04):
like just fucking bad bitches all the time, right, And
so I bring out I bring out three that I
thought was bad.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I was like, yo, these are these are bad.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
They actually all go to the gym, right, and this
is why it is gym related, all right? And I
bring out out and I'm like, yo, these are you know, Colombian,
fucking all Colombians, actually all Colombians.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
And I think, like Elsa el salvadoran right, really bad,
really bad.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
And you know, he's scoping out the crowd and I'm like, yo,
you're not feeling nothing, like what's what's going on? And
he's like nah, like you know, they're not really anything.
He there's not really anything here. I was like, okay,
Like I brought three, Like what's up with this?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
He's like, oh, they're like a seven and a half.
And I was like, damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I was like damn because there's different levels to it,
you know, there's levels to it.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And then I was.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Like, I was like, fuck if there's seven, you know.
And then I talked to my other boy and I
was like, yo, I told him the same story. He's like,
seven for Boston is not bad. I was like, no, no,
no shout.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But to Dore, like, I feel like the beauty is
an animate Your your six might be my eight, you
know what I mean? Your eight might be my four,
Like and you know what I mean, Obviously you got
to take consideration. We gotta take consideration frame, We gotta
take consideration a lot of other things like personality and
all that stuff like you know what I mean, that
(10:21):
could boost up the ratings that you can't even see. Yea,
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So do we care about how much they make if
I meet a bad bitch at fucking Starbucks?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, this is a question because guys, we're gonna be
talking about all of this during this show, and I
see where they're going, I see where they're going with this.
It doesn't matter for a male because because males are
always supposed to be, you know, the provider, Like we don't.
We don't look at.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
It as like you you know what I mean, you're
with me, so like my whole thing is just like
this as us being providers, we're never looking at the
sense that oh, this is what you going on?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, never never. I'll give a damnage woever.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
For females, and some some may disagree and say, no,
that's not how I're operating and stuff like that. But
I do feel like for a lot of females it's like, oh,
they will hit you with the oh I don't want
a bum for.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
An American born female, yes, I would say ninety five
percent of the right.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I think that's why you have your past porpois now.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, And a lot of people hate. There's a lot
of people that hate. They will be like they'll be like, oh, wow,
I can't believe he went out there and spent X,
Y and Z on this female and like it's just
a different thing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You know, you got men looking for a more traditional
type of thing, right, you know, you got the connection
and loving type of woman down there.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well, if we're going to be traditional and be that provider,
there you go.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
What am I looking for? I'm not looking for another dude. Yeah,
I don't want another dude. I gotta fight in that
I was all day.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
This is true, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I want something that's like I come home. I've been
working fighting all fucking day. I don't want to go
home and fight right like. I want to come home
to like you said that peace. I don't want to
come home and argue all day like God damn, I
don't want to be home.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I'm to be out with the borrow with somebody else.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Listen, we're gonna get right into the people listening man,
the question of the episode. We're gonna start with this man. Listen, gentlemen,
I'm gonna ask you this, and I need your feedback.
Is tricking the new love language is tricking? The new
love language? Talk to me?
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Can you give me some premise on this?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay? Tricking? My definition of tricking is like, listen, if
you are out here spending money on an individual to
gain more benefits, to gain more attention, to to up
your advantage.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
M hm oh.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
This is where we have the new love language talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think if you're an ugly motherfucker, it might be right.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But if you get some ship working for you, your personality,
your looks, your appearance, your funny your funny funny is important,
your fitness level, all right?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think those can plain in your favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh no, definitely, that's one thousand. That's definitely play your favorite.
But I feel like, no matter what, you have to
spend money, like, oh, regardless, and and you know, everybody
has their definition of tricking. I feel like everybody has
their definition, like you know what I mean. My definition
(13:34):
of tricking might be like, oh, I bought her a
new car.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's that's that's nasty, that's trick. But taking a woman
to dinner, that's the standard.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I feel like that's not a I personally don't feel
like tricking is taking a female out to dinner or
or some event or anything like that, because that's usually
the thing to do. But I feel like the unnormal
where you're like, you know what I mean, Oh, I
(14:09):
was thinking about you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I bought you this bracelet from disgusting.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You're a nasty individual.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember. I thought about this other day.
I remember the last time I bought flowers, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So we have You need to be better, you need
to do better. He's like, I.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Haven't bought flowers for two years.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
When I have these talks all the.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Day, we have a yeah, we have a debating, So
I need you to go first.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I need to a different view. Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, so he's he has a little bit more tradition.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I am a more traditional, old fashioned type of persons.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
A woman out, you're paying.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You're doing the little things door, You're a gentleman. Those
are the things I was raised you know on. I
enjoy doing. They make me feel good if.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I like the person. Okay, and you know what, I
love that. I love that you said about that. It's
it's that's your standard. So now now hear me out
walk with me. His standard might be this female's premium.
Mm hmmm, because you gotta understand something like a lot
(15:18):
of times people don't understand, like I feel like your level,
your standard are living. You do this all the time.
You're not going out of your way to do this. Yeah,
people don't understand that. Like I'm like, I'm not going
out of my way to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Like myself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But somebody else may
be looking at this like, oh my god, he's he's
going above and beyond, Like no sism, You're you're getting
the bare minimum from me. This is basic. We all
gotta eat, you know what I mean. But for somebody else,
they're like, oh my god, I'm gonna tell John I
(15:57):
want to marry him.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
No, But it'd be like that sometimes because I sit
back and I'm like, I don't ever bring out girls
to do things I don't want to do, right, Like
it's it's gonna be I'm doing this and if you
accompany with me, we're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I'm not gonna go out of my way to break
that standard of things that I would do as a baseline, Right.
But on the other side of things, I don't know.
I just sit back and I'm like, if I'm talking
to someone seriously, then I'll look for cues, like, you know,
does she It's not that I'm not paying right, especially
for the initial date or so, but I look for, oh,
(16:36):
is she offering the chip in? Is she offering to
do it? Just because I like to find that disrespect. Okay, okay,
talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, I just it's just old fashioned things. I just
if a man is asking you out you yeah, you
pay right.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
But I look for it as like, oh I if
she's like I got the next one, then that's a
green flag to me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'll tell you what I do.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I do little secret moves and I'll call ahead and
have that bill paid for before we even go to dinner.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
See, he's a savage. This is this is this is
what people are. Guysten gonna tell you this is what
this is. This is a side note, guys, this is
the person you gotta watch out for because see he
elevates that level and it goes from damn to damn.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I make a game out of it, you know what
I mean? Do you want to pay You have to
outdo me to pay for my mail. You have to
be not really sneaky. You're gonna be really sneaky.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
See John Johnson's strategists like, you know what I mean.
But if he has a downpack, people, you got a downpack.
But I hope you guys are taking notes. But let's
double back to the question. But do you think tricken
is a new love language? Do you feel that everybody,
everybody like and like I said, tricken is is biased
on based off however you define it. But do you
(17:51):
feel that generally females out here wants you to do
the most?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I think it depends on her standard.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That's that baseline, right, because I think that going back
to so now, if you're in a situation where you're
a female and you're getting dinners paid for, right, and
you're going out and you're in Lambeaus, or you're going
out to Miami, you're going out to Dubai and all
this shit, your standard is gonna be fucking high. You
getting accustomed to certain things right, right, Because even for me,
I like, my new standard is this is this baseline
(18:25):
where I like, I like when girls do this shit, right,
because they're put in that work for me the same
way I put it in. For them, it's less transactional,
more relational. So for me it's a different standard, but
for them, maybe it is. Tricking is the standard. Because now,
especially for the younger girls, you see all this stuff, right,
they've been all over the world.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I'm like, god, damn, like you know what I mean, Like,
and how is this happening?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Because tricking at something either way, at the bare minimum,
you're spending time right, time that I could be spent
making money, that could be spent making money right put
the vehicle right right at the bare minimum, at the
bare minimum, right, So something is always transaction or you're tricking.
Something is getting paid for right in some way, it's
(19:08):
time money, it's some fucking way. But at the end
of the day, it's like, how much are you willing
to sacrifice for the person that you're with, Because if
I don't like the girl, you know, we will kind
of like it'll be a disproportionate balance. But then if
I like you, then we're kind of like meeting halfway,
or I might do a little bit more because I'm
like okay, like I want more time. But it's not
(19:29):
going to be too much because the moment you for me,
the moment that you start treating them a little bit different,
they peep that. They're like, oh, like he's given me
this princess treatment. He really likes me. I can kind
of take advantage because they're they're wicked. They're way more developed,
especially emotionally, than we are.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So I could see that point.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
That's why I always go for that transaction, the relation
over transaction. That's why we have the difference of opinion
on this part.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
For longevity in the relationship, For longevity in relationship good points.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I think we just him and I just see things.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So listen, guys, before before the show, guys, listen, before
we end the show, Guys, we are going to we
are going to tell each other what is the most
tricking that we've done, Like the craziest trick move we've
ever done before the show.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, because I think we've been like that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We've we've all been in a situation where we're like,
I forced it, bro, Like you you're just like, you
know what I mean? Like this was, this was I
went above and beyond. When you go home and you say,
I'm a fucking yeah, We're gonna tell you, guys before
we get listen, let me ask you, guys. This is
spending money to look successful clothes, cars, watches, treating yourself
(20:53):
or tricking society into believing you made it? Is that
once again, guys, is spending money to look successful on closed, cars, watches,
treating yourself or tricking society into believing you made Talk
to me. You go first on this one.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Okay, okay, okay, because so I sit on a double
standard with this, right, just because I sit back with
a lot of.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
DJ's rappers, people that own restaurants.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It's uh tricking till you got it right. It's like
a fake it till.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
You make it right.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
So for me, I think on the other side, like, oh,
why are you flashing out if you don't got it right,
because then when the real situation happens where you need
to pop out, it's like damn, I get the money right.
But on the other side, if your goal is to
grow your brand and all this other stuff, it's been
proven time and time again. I think you just look
(21:48):
at rappers for the bare minimum, right, crazy chains out
in a certain lifestyle. People want to be like this person,
so they're going to try to go and emulate this
lifestyle so we others can follow.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
But those are.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Sheep right right, right, right right, those sheep.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
But I think at the bare minimums, like, don't trick
if you don't got it, because then the situation comes
and you're in the section, you're doing some crazy shit,
you're out of the restaurant, You're like, like, you know,
I propose that I look like or I look like
a certain way on this you know, this application, but
in real life the same't meme.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The people I know with real money you.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Don't know they have, Yeah right, those.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are the ones. Yeah, get up.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Listen, You're at the table of twenty people.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They get up, they pay for the whole dinner, they leave,
They don't say anything at all.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You don't even know what happened.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
They got miss mismatched and shirt yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they you know, they got the new
Balance shoes on, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
They might have ripping their shirt.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But everybody knows about the restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah, everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Everybody knows. Everybody's shaking your hand, Yeah everybody, And you're like,
what is going on?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Like why shaking?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like you know what I mean? Because it's like, yo,
I have a great bullshit detector with this stuff. Really,
you know, I feel like I feel like a lot
of times we all have indications on like you know,
you can't sell me bullshit. We know the prices type
shit like we have that like where you could tell
if someone's like either just selling themselves way too high
(23:12):
or you're like, yo, bro, you're doing way too much.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean you have your outliers, but generally, super
super wealthy people are very humble.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You don't know some people some people. And I feel
like once you get to that, once you get in
that space of like you've you've accomplished everything in life,
where you like, you bought the yacht, you bought the
manch and you bought your best you bought your dream car,
you bought your dream everything, it's kind of like, all right,
(23:44):
I'm over this, yeah, like you know what I mean.
But I feel like you have to get to that
point where you are now comfortable with just living with yourself.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Mhm.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I think that for all of us, you should be
comfortable with your self living with yourself.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, I think so too, what you want, but.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Like that's a whole other topic. It's crazy other topic.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So, but but do you think that coming back to
the question, do you think that it's treating to do
this for each other? Like, you know what I mean,
And I'm biased on it too. I do feel like
everybody deserves nice things. I do believe like if you're
like this, you know what, fuck it, I've I've worked hard.
(24:27):
I'm gonna go buy me those red boxes. That's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But not if you can't make your rent next month's.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And and and that's all. That's an adult. That's being
an adult, Like you know what I mean, Like if
you if you are sacrificing more for a little for less,
you know what I mean. Like, it's just it doesn't
make sense. This doesn't make sense for you to blow
the bag on on this and then next thing, you know,
you have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think a lot of people can do, though, and
I've been a person that has done the same thing. Right,
you go out, you spend the crazy amount of money,
and they you're like, damn, like what was that doing?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Like I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
It's your tricking, Like you got it, but at the
time you probably shouldn't have to.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Should I have those.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Days when I was younger, you know, fly down to Miami,
spend five g's on clothes, come home like.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Damn, yeah, I got twenty one. I just spent five g's.
I'm fucking closed.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I means I meeting Ramen noodles tonight. But and
that's what I'm saying, though, I feel like, what, like
what do you feel that for you guys? What do
you think is the happy medium?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What are you gotta You always gotta work on your bag, right,
always gotta be expanding your bag. But in the process
of doing that, I think it's good to do nice
things for yourself.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right, you want the rolex, you want the nice car,
you want the nice house. I think those things are
important markers in somebody's life, right, right, Things to your goals,
things to progress to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You know, this is what I want.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm working towards this, not Hey, I'm gonna buy this,
then I'm gonna figure out everything else after.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, I'll just pick up more hours.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, you know, I'll work. I'll get another job.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I like it. I like it. Let me ask you
guys this, Yeah, because this is gonna get. This is
gonna get nitty gritty.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It's like J's with no car. You keep buying J's
but you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Have a car. Yeah, and you're walking yeah, correct, if
you're on a bus or you know, yeah, it'll makes sense.
Like you got this crazy burking bag, but you're sitting
next to me on your phone.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
You're gonna burking bag and you're sitting next to me
on the train, fake.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Fake, Yeah, I got I got bigger things to talk.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It doesn't even matter if it's real, right, It's like,
why no.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
It doesn't, it doesn't at this point in time. You
should be taking an uber or something like that. If
you really got it like that, you should never be
like and I'm not and I'm not listening, guys. No
disrespect for people that take public transportation, but if you
got a burkeing bag that costs X, Y and Z,
you shouldn't be on the train.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
And that's also more danger because then it's a lot
of other people that don't give.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
A have a couple more gifts from Peter.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We do and see, yeah, we have a couple of
these key chain belts I swear for.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I swear for. Lord yo, listen, Peter, like, I don't
you get the pink one. John, it's like a belt Keechen.
I was like, oh, it's a weightlifting belt. It's like,
that's what, that's what I like.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That man because he's affiliated with Cardell and Cardello does
the belt.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They sell him at a n C.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Right, it's crazy, Like fun fact, I've never used I
just got to no no only time you no. But
the only time I use it, and I'll show you
the video is when I picked up a car. Neither
hear here, bro, I feel bad that It's like, man
is strong? All right, listen, listen, We're gonna get right
(27:49):
into it. Is paying for dates a real investment in
the relationship or just temporary rent for their time? Talk
to me, get stupid? Yeah yeah, yeah, you won't make it.
Yeah yeah, now we get it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You can roll into it. And I think I can
add into what you what you?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Uh? So?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
First of all, I think that dating is a hobby.
It's a big hobby. Right, You're spending money on something
else that you You could spend money on your car. You
can spend money on anything. It's it's another hobby. So
I think the first.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Point to look at it is a good way to
look at The.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
First thing I even posted the other day was like,
what is your goal?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
If your goal is just to go out and have
fun and show with a bunch of women and do
whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
That's cool. Like that, that's cool, Like that's your goal.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
If your goal is to go out and date, And
now you're like, okay, I'm now turning this hobby into
something that I have a goal towards. Then you know
you're paying for dates you're going out, you're doing all
this stuff. Just know that you have a goal in mind.
Don't go out and just waste a whole bunch of
money on prospects. Sure that you're just you're just wasting
time and money. Have that value, have that foundation before
(29:00):
or anything. Because yes, I do enjoy having women around
all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But at the same time, like I said, if it's.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not investing in you and you don't have a goal
in mind, you're just living out, You're doing nothing, You're
just tracking for fucking I don't even know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm with you, I'm picking up with you up now.
But however, let me take this looking at the gay
last half empt have full What if you invested and
you're like, all right, cool, I like her, I'm really
feeling these vibes. I really like this. I want to
go ahead with this boom boom. But however, she doesn't
envision it the same way.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Goodbye though, So like, you're gonna pick up on these
cues on the first date.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Of course, of course you're gonna pick up these cues
on a first date. But at the same time, it
just comes back to it where it's just like, wow,
I just paid for her time, like you know what
I mean. Like it's it's like I just paid for
for to just keep her attention. This is good because
you got to think about it, like all right, first
things first, first things, first, guess what happens? Where are
you taking that? Okay, but John, but that's what I'm
(30:10):
saying to you that that first day first date indicator.
This is easy, This is easy. But that's what I'm
saying though. Where are you taking? Where you taking restaurant? Restaurant?
Where are you taking? Where you're taking a restaurant? Now?
First day? Talk to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
First date is simple things, right, First date.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Is is coffee's go for you want to get an
ice cream, Let's go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Let's go to the beach and simple things right, You
get to know the person.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Listen, if they're not interested in doing something like that,
you're getting to know each other. And they want to
go to Ocean Prime or this expensive restaurant, and then
because that's it, they're looking for something transactional where you
might not be looking for that, right, you might be
looking to get to know the things.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
And then you can look at that that that's not
a coalescent goal. We don't have the same goal in mind.
Your goal is to go out and get winded dying.
Mine is to find out how you tick.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
And not only that it ain't ticking. It's an easy escape. Yeah,
you know, coffee, ice cream, walk beach.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But oh I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I got something to do.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know what I mean. Okay, Now, let's give some insight.
Let's give some game for the people that live in
not too much game, No, not too much game. People
that live in Boston wintertime, in a winter time, Where
are you the time? Where are you taking them? See?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You gotta yeah, coffee man, coffee, No coffee coffee shop,
you gotta. You gotta figure out a couple of your
own spots, right, you know, sit down for an hour,
you get some coffee.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Okay, here's my stats. I don't I'm not I'm not
a good talker. I ain't got a good personality. That's no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, here's the stats for and that's viewing and listening.
I'm an extrovert. I'm shy. Okay, where where what where
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are you suggesting this person take them or do with
that person? Like? You know what I mean? Because because
it's got to be very basic. But no, it has
to be basic. But here's the thing though, a lot
of people, viewers, listeners, people that have personality. You got personality,
you got personality, you got humor, you got humor. We
could we could manage in different different areas. We bring
(32:36):
the vibes where other locations set the vibes, like you
know what I mean. Like, but that's what I'm saying
to you, That's what I'm saying. But for the people
that don't know how to bring the vibes, where do you,
gentlemen suggest they should go?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I suggest they would work on themselves so they can
bring the vibes.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That rights, Like, you need to work.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
There's feeling comfortable on yourself, right, but then there's also
you need to also be outside. And the reason being
is because confidence is built through practice. Right, So you're
not gonna you can go and work on yourself at
home all day, but then you go out to the
bar and you still have this approach anxiety, right, you
still have stuff that's going on, so you need to
break that shell of just going out. So I think
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the bar, any bar is an okay place even going out.
Actually if it depends. Like I said, your goal. I
think the bar is okay for practice if you're random
and just talk and get your conversation on really, you know,
break that shell, you know, and then once you progress
from there, then you could start going out to other places.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I think the younger guys have a real problem with
approaching women cold.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You know, they definitely do, whereas you get a little older.
It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Like I told you guys earlier about Babe Ruth, Right,
he was the home run leader, but he also letting strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So you can't be afraid to just put that ship
out there.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's like you have to realize you have to be
comfortable with like h not a bad game, like you
know what I mean, Like yo, like you know, I
have a better game tomorrow that's got two locked eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
But my thing is like, when you go in and
do something, did you die? If not, then it probably
wasn't that bad.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You're never right, you're dead right, And even then then
you wouldn't give a fuck because your dad. So it's
like did it kill you?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
No? So you can go up and talk to her
if she says she don't like you or she has
a boyfriend, whatever, just move on.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Who gives a fuck, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, it's probably better off that way then you trying
extra and then get played later on down the line.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You You My advice to all those extroverts out there, guys,
people that don't have the vibes, that can't bring the vibes.
I think that you need to go into a setting
that actually allows you to assist with the vibes. Like
like these two gentlemen are saying, like, you know, go
somewhere interactive. I I would go somewhere where you would
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have to do more things together where it's like what bowling,
Like no, no, no, but like perfect example, like level
ninety nine or something like that, you know what I mean,
Like a place that it allows you to like have
this communication where you guys got to figure out something together.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And you escape you.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I feel like that would be a beneficial that's actually.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
A cool first place to bring somebody, Kay, yeah, escape
from Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
You see what I'm saying. It's a little gay, but
it's cool.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, But something in your wheelhouse that's not weird to
because because like if we go out to some like
spot and I'm like this ain't even men, Like why
are you there?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, Like, I'm not taking you to dinner. I don't
have nothing to talk about. I'm not going to make
you laugh. Like dinner is a very intimate thing. It's
super I think you're gotta be really into.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Somebody to want to take them.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
It's almost like an interview you right, like you're talking.
I want to get close to you.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I want to drink. I want to have a good
time with you. If we had dinner, it's it's like this, right,
Like we're just talking.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So eating is very intimate thing. Yeah, So it's like
and it's more familiar. Yeah, Okay, let me ask you
guys this, If you spend money on someone and expect
something in return, is it tricking or is it transactional honesty?
I'm so okay, okay, okay, I want to say. He said,
if you spend money on someone and expect something in return,
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is it tricking or transactional honesty? He's ready, he's walking.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
This is this is.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
This is This is called COVID contracts. And I think
a lot of guys get this fucked up. A lot
of guys, like a lot of nice guys get this
really fucked up. They think that because I do something,
you owe me something. Absolutely the fuck not, absolutely the
fuck not.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
If you're doing something for somebody, it should be out
of your.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Heart, right, it should be completely like if I lose something,
if I lose, don't give what you don't have, right, So, like,
if I lose something out of this transaction that we had,
this venture, whatever it is, that's.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Okay, because I was gonna do it anyway. I was
gonna like this is all love. It's okay. I didn't
lose anything. But now if I'm giving more and I'm
giving more than this is this expectation that you have,
and the expectation is never gonna get fulfilled, and then
you build resentment, right, So you need to go out
and just do what you love. And if someone doesn't fuck.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
With you, that's okay, that's completely okay. It's like I
wish you the best, Like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You couldn't have said it any better, buddy. That's the
way that I operate.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So I'm saying, so you're speaking, you're speaking in terms.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Of just generally, yeah, but especially with dating, especially with
my dudes, are like I took you out to dinner
about your flower opened your door. I did all this
and then I didn't get to have sex. It's like, bro,
like why were you expecting this?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
But you know what I feel like, A like a
lot of times, a lot of different females create that atmosphere.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I mean, you're gonna be able to see but that's
what I'm saying, experience and that's what number and that's
what and.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
That's what it is though. But I feel like certain
people create that atmosphere where it's just kind of like
that's the vibes I was getting from you, like you
know what I mean, and I and I'm with you
and I'm with you, totally with you, Whereas it comes
down to it where it's just like yo, listen, if
I do something for you, it's out of kindness of
my heart, like you know what I mean. Like I'm
not like you know what I mean, I'm not going
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above and beyond like I said, like we were just
talking about our standards. This is my standard. I'm not
doing nothing crazy Like You're like, oh damn, yo, you're
going above and beyond and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, I'm never really going into anything with any expectations, right,
I'm doing everything that that I want to do. This
is how I operate, correct, So you know, whatever happens
after that happens.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But you know, but that's what I'm saying, and I'm
with you on that. Like my whole thing is just
like you should not have to do it into things
expecting something to return.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Well, I think as a guy, you have to also
look at how many times you might get burnt by
doing things like that. Now, how many times do I
touch the stove and Tom like, I'm done getting burned? Right, Like,
you have to come back and be like, Okay, this
isn't what I'm expecting.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I'm coming out.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
For this, I'm coming out for you. If I'm expecting
something out of somebody, like, it's always going to fail.
And especially okay, okay, if you're if you're doing things
and you're trying to get that person to be on
your side or you're trying to get that person to change,
I means you really don't even like them for who
they are, right because they weren't going to sleep with
you in the first place, and now you're doing all
the sexual work.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
That's weird, bro, Like, just do what you love.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And if they go and move along with your whole process,
the things you got going on, that's that's a plus.
But if you're going out expecting ships to.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
The people that I would take particularly want in general, right, yeah,
I want to even regularly, yeah, or be about how
you operate to be not to like this fake thing,
right yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
No, it makes purpose sense. And it's it's one of
those things where it's just like after a while, like
you like you guys are both saying like you have
to figure out are they with me for the long
term or they with me for the short term.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Well, you'll never know about the long term, right, because
things happen, people change.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I think either way, as long as you're on your path,
whether or not they choose to be on your boat
is how things operate.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
And if they don't choose, it's okay. You could jump
off the boat.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
So I got my own boat that's going straight the.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Thing take me right to the show.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I get to other boat, all right.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
So scenario scenario for a gentleman or lady that has
been going through demise of dating, hasn't seen the results.
They've done all the due diligence by you know, paying
for that person paying for this person paying for this person,
(41:02):
but haven't seen them as results. What advice do you
give to them?
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I think that you need to up your selection game process, right,
your results aren't paying out for you.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
You need to really look at yourself.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Hold on, do you think it's up or down yourself?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Like, since you need to look at yourself, it's never
their fault, right, And what do I really it is?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It isn't their fault, right, It's to look at yourself.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
You're the common denominator and what are you bringing to
the table?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Right? But that's what I'm saying though, so like you
know what I mean. Say, let's all right, I go
on five dates and I've missed on five dates because
five that's a long time.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
No, I've seen no he has a because I've seen
a thing where I've had other girls tell me like, oh,
dudes have had a five date rule where if you
don't sleep with me in five dates on whatever.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I'm like, I've never even had to think about this ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
I've never had to be like, oh, well, if she
doesn't sleep with me, bro, what what are you thinking about?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Usually know what's up after the first day you want
to Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Usually you know after the first ten to fifteen minutes,
if you want to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And if you if she's interesting, if.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
There's some sort of future or anything, you know what
I mean that sex?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
So oh but yeah, because you just all you gotta
do is ask questions. They'll tell you the world.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
You just gotta you just gotta know how to ask.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'll tell you that that's true.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's when they start asking about you.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
You ask about that. Yeah, always, always, You gotta be
a mystery.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
People have to talk about themselves.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Oh my god, people the only thing they know the
most about.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Right, People love to talk about themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
We all do. And let me Okay, okay, this is
gonna get a little a little debate. Is little dicey
a little dicey? Is there a difference between a sugar
daddy and a gentleman?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Oh that was saying, yeah, bro, really bro, we're going
back to again. Yeah no, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
This is this is this is this.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
My perspective is like this. Okay, you have a female, young,
female educated, whatever the case is. She feels that you
are like you're supposed to do certain things right. This
is fair like so like My thing is just like this,
I pay for I pay for your your your nails
(43:25):
to get done. You're here to get done. Yeah, I
pay I pay for I pay for this, I pay
for that. Now depends on how that person defines it.
I might just be being a gentleman. Now, depends on
her standard. And that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Bill Belchick, Well he's talking like Bill Belichick, and he's like.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
A woman should be able to maintain her look on
her own.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
No, but John, I'm with you on that. But see
that's the problem though, the problem is like this, the
past always haunts the future because guess what, this dude
in the past was tricky on this girl that you're
now dating.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Well, and that's the thing, but this actually happens all
the time in my building too.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
This is weird. We're in trouble. We're in trouble.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
We actually started dropping too many gems.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's what it.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Illuminati is like, absolutely fucking yo. Absolutely, Hey, how.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Many times this place caught on fire?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Today?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Never? One, two, three, four times? Four times? Oh? Really
fire yo, bro? Like they was a day. Hey, when
I pulled up, Mike was leaving. They were leaving look
at alady on a camera like that's nasty.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Well this is mother.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
What was that fifteen seconds and went away? Yeah, fire
out fast, Yeah yeah they closed the microwave.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Whorn. So you yeah, coming back to that, like, it's
just one of those things where it's if you define
that as you know what I mean, You've just left
this girl, but you've gave her the world. But now
you're with this girl, You're like, whoa, You're exited all
of that. AJ did all of that for you.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
I think this comes back to seeing what for me.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I look at things statistically what is successful and what
is not successful. So I've done things where I've spent
I've saved people from getting their cars repossessed. I've spent
money on when I was younger, right, like if they
were going to school, or I paid all the bills
for years, right. And you look at how many times
certain situations like this are successful and what you gain
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in the end, or where you stand in comparison to
the other person. You save this other person from many situations.
You did all this stuff for somebody else, But then
you come out of it and you're like, oh, like
that person came up and I stayed the same right
where you could have taken all that.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
Stuff and put it into yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
I look back and I'm like, know that you're not
going to not do it for somebody else. But there
is a different standard, like you're saying, for the millionaire,
they don't give a fuck, Like they're like, oh, I
have this girl.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know what I mean million if you get sixty
five million.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Because now that's their new standard. Yo.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
We've gone out to Miami and girls had their whole
dinners paid, they were going to clubs, and the dude
wasn't even he was out here in Boston.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Everything was fucking paid for everything. Oh go to this restaurant.
Everything's all set. You just got to go, right. You
can bring a friend, They're paid for two right.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
And I just sit back on the other side, like, oh,
this is a different standards, different lifestyle, and you kind
of have to live with it between your means. And
if that girl is expecting these things, then let them be.
What the dude that's going to do all those things?
Speaker 1 (46:48):
But if not, then, right do you feel do you
feel like the success level based is on on how
many how many attempts you take?
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Because you have like you said, like you're gonna You're
gonna fucking swing until you hit And that's in everything,
and most people are gonna fucking fail a million times
until you fucking hit it big. The point is that
you have to fucking fail you and it's not even
fail is such a bad word. You just have to
go through it and do the trials and tripulations until
and you're only dumb if you keep doing the same
(47:22):
fucking ship.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
You have to learn from yourself and others and pivot right.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Always, he said, always. Fucking figure. Okay, let me ask
you guys this, who's worse, the one tricking or the
one happily accepting the trick all thepting?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Really yeah, really, yeah, I think it's I feel like, dude, yeah,
I feel like it's half an half.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I feel like it's half an half if you are
because okay, now we're in an age of social media
where you know, you have tons of people saying like,
oh my god, you know you know this dude he
said that he was gonna take me fly by.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Go with him, go with him, but take me too,
actually to actually does he have money like that? Like
you take us both?
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I'm like this bring me back, so like.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, use his money and bring us something.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Matter of fact, you just use one of those.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Shots, bring me a shot glass from back, like you
know what I mean, You're like, oh my god, Like
you know what I mean. I'm encouraging take this deal.
But at the same time, though it's it sucks because.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I don't have your money, not yet yet.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Not yet. But at the same time, like you said,
like that person that says sixty five year old millionaire
or whoever, whoever the case is, you got Google Bucks.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
He's got great pubes too, though, so correct.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
But at the same time, you could trick off easier
than we trick off. We could trick off by saying, hey,
let's our trick off to them is like, oh what,
he's gonna take you to a nice, nice steak dinner.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, that's cool. You're gonna fuck this old guy though.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
Yeah, that's rough, right, you know you could be some
of them, don't though. He picks. I know girls that
make money off the beat picks. That's crazy. Is that
the new Yeah?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Find all right, but that's that's there, right, You got
some dude.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Let's go back to the.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Some dude paying for you and all this other stuff.
There is some sort of expect expectation.
Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yeah right, is that contract right?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
So where this girl has to fuck this old dude.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Because the dude isn't dumb. He's not just doing all this.
He's not a millionaire for no fucking reason.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
It's a businessman with business business.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
It's just like this. It's like I don't know if
you've seen that that movie War Dogs with Jonah Hill
and all that. He went to the club and he
said to this chick. He was like, Yo, what's up?
What's your number? He's like this, you know what, he's
three grand Let's skip to the fifth day. What's up,
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Let's go to my house? He said. It just like that,
like YO, likes it. That's what it is. It's kind
of like one of those things where it's it's like, bro,
like somebody has that bread can be. But that's what
I'm saying, John, you could skip the listen, But.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I don't like, you can be mad because I've seen
girls at the club that go through and you're you're
trying to talk to them. They're talking to the old
dude and they're outside with the PEGANI you.
Speaker 5 (50:39):
Know what I mean, they're getting they're locking in. They're
locking in.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I'm happy fucking.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Get pussy that way. That's fine me. I like the
whole attraction thing. I need a girl to be wanting
my ship for me to be into it. Like I
can't just fuck to fuck. A girl has to has
to want it, you know what I mean? Mean for
me to be I can't be. I just couldn't be
me myself. I can't speak right, I can't trick. I
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A girl has to want to fu.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Let's go back to the is it is it the
guy that's tricking that's the problem, or is it the
girl you said, the girl that's happily accepting this trick?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
All right, so maybe have fifty every track track.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Because it's true.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Right, But this is a debate we're talking.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
You think it's about stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
I think I'm on the other side. I think it's uh.
I think it's purely the guys problem, right because.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
The juice over there, absolutely, Yeah, Look my ship's empty.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Look, I think it's the guys problem, right because.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Hey, thanks man, you got you take personal checks?
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I actually do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
I think it's the guys that create this perpetual problem, right,
because one they might be spending a lot of money
just to get a type of thing, and then the
ones that don't spend money might be sitting on the
outside like, oh, you're not I don't.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
Got the money to spend.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
At the end of the day, it's like it's that
expectation thing, like are you spending a lot of money
to get this one thing?
Speaker 5 (52:14):
It's never the girl's problem.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
Because if we didn't fucking do it, the same shit
with likes on Instagram. If we didn't do it, we
didn't in box them like crazier. We didn't offer oh,
you know you look beautiful and all this.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Other and then I mean neither right. I've seen girls
in boxes that are crazy.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Just talking about themselves.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
I would never say, but they're like, I think we're
the problem because now, if we played the game evenly
on the field, then there wouldn't be no need for
me to go out and be like, oh, like I.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Got to go through. But guys are the problem.
Speaker 8 (52:43):
Let me.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
It's competition. It's competition, but that competition.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
It comes back down to it where you're saying, like, yo,
you bring the bad you bring the band, I bring
the band. That person didn't know how to bring the bad.
That's what he brings bad.
Speaker 5 (52:56):
But I think at the end of the days, the money.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
But that's the thing though.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
But know where it goes, just the money, but you
know you should know where it goes.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
But that But that's the thing though. I feel like
every group, every group, every male group, has one person
in each section. You have that one guy that loaded. Sure, yeah,
you had that one guy. He's funny. You got that
one guy.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
He's fit, he's a good looking one.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
He's.
Speaker 5 (53:28):
He doesn't have everything, but he like.
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Just groups, we have that one person. So it's just
kind of like, that's that person's infinity stone. That's that person.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
We get the gauntlets.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
What's your infinity stone. I feel like I have a
I have a happy balance. I think I'm a happy balance.
Like you know what I mean. I got an okay personality.
I think you got a.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Good person, great person.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
I think you get a good person.
Speaker 5 (53:54):
I think you sell yourself short.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I think you're very friendly and very I think you're
very forward in a way that's comfortable with people and complimentary.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I appreciate that, Like you
know what I mean. Like my thing is just like
I don't have a one stone that just dominates everything else.
Like I try to be very level on everything where
I'm always challenging myself to be better on this one,
on this one. That's real talk. And that's one time,
(54:24):
like you know what i mean, Like my thing is
just like this, I'm like, all right, cool a, you
need to work on this now. Okay, let me bring
this down, let me elevate this one up here, like
you know what I mean. That's how I envision it.
When when it comes down for me personally, other people
they may be like, all right, let me just go
for my highlights.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
And it's fair. It's fair. Sure. I mean what works
for you works for you, and that's and that's what
it is. That's what it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Like if you go to right, you know what I mean,
if you're a fastball hitter, you're a fastball.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
You're a fastball hitter. That's your that's your thing. But
if I could, if I could hit you with the knuckleball,
if I could with a curveball twelve to six, I'm
doing all right. Yeah, I got a nice little portfolio,
you know what I mean. Yeah, but I I really
truly I think, honestly down the line, people, I think
(55:14):
it's fifty to fifty. You know what I mean. I
know I understand that you're saying that.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
It's I think we're the problem.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I think no, I think I think I do agree
that to the point where we're the problem. Because but
like I said, everybody has their specialty. Yeah, and and
it's it's one of those things where the Internet is endless,
and I could be an Idaho talking to a girl
(55:41):
in Miami telling her, Hey, listen, don't worry about it.
It's on me. You and your girls could fly down
to Vegas. I got a hotel suite for you, guys,
enjoy yourself, happy birthday.
Speaker 8 (55:53):
Crazy to do that for me, Like, why can't I
have the I want to.
Speaker 5 (56:03):
Be at a fucking Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
It is not appealing.
Speaker 5 (56:09):
It's really like the opposite way when they for you.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
I'd rather do that.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I mean, I don't know. Listen, before we get out
of here, any positive or.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Negative, it's always positive with this girl.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
This like any positive negative feedback or not not negative feedback,
anything that you want to give to the people for
whatever guidance growth.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Stay up, keep pushing, keep working on yourself, working on
your fitness, work your health right, keep up your appearance.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
As you can see him.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
Guys, I think these things matter majorly in life. Keep
up your health, stay looking young, stay positive, believe in God.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
I mean, these things are a They've worked for me,
They're a plus for me.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
I feel like I feel like drawn Mike's fortune.
Speaker 5 (57:06):
People the free time, you.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Can be a good side job.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Right, all right, here's what you got.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
No, very similar to him, Like, always work on yourself.
I don't think there's a point in which you get.
Speaker 5 (57:20):
To not work on yourself. Especially as a guy.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
You have to work and love on yourself over everybody else.
There's always that thing where if my cup is in full,
what what way or how am I gonna fill your
cup that's not full?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (57:37):
Like, you have to putting that work for yourself. And
if you don't, then like and you're looking through.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Other people, real people, they're gonna fill your cup.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
Yeah, Like yeah, it's always like when you look at
the people that have more money, the people that are
bigger than you, the people that are in better positions
than you, they want to help you succeed all the
way and they want to Like, I've never been in
a position where at least the very minimum. If you're
not cocky and you're not an asshole, and you're all
the ship, and you're asking for advice from somebody that
(58:07):
is in a better position in whatever field you're looking
to propelling or excelling, then that person usually is willing
to help. Usually willing to help because they see a
good struggle a.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
Good person most and most of most of the time
it is.
Speaker 4 (58:23):
But if you're cocky, you think your ship, don't think
or whatever, like, you have to work on yourself and
then be okay with asking for help, right, because you're
always growing.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
Yeah, if you want to grow, Yeah, you're always willing.
You're never not, You're never enough. Rging, stop being entitled,
work on yourself, love.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yourself dos I love it. I love it all I
got to say for this for this particular episode. Listen.
Money may not buy you happiness, but it's sure buys
rent for attention. I want to think, I want to
think a I want to thank John, thank you coming
(59:00):
out on here. And I don't want to thank.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Peter, especially Peter.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
That's how we're getting paid. Listen, Listen. I feel like
I feel like he needs to drop a promo tode
you going on to Peter in an C.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Right, he's on the corner of Ferry Street and Broadway
and Effett take care of you.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
Telling John sent you, he'll know who it is. Right,
I'm in there often.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
You need a weight belt, you need protein, creatine pre workout.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Peter's got you. He's the man, handsome Pete.
Speaker 1 (59:29):
I feel like in his car like John has a
little guys man. Thank you guys for walking out with
us for another episode of Peter's Confluence.
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