October 1, 2025 • 25 mins
Florida before the Civil War was an open land with many possibilites - if you were brave enough to do it. A Land Remembered tells us how it can materialize, how it gets ruined, and ultimately destroyed.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You make me feel so young.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And welcome back to Arbitam Sorry's radio show and Ralph
Nathanogo Tody's The Bookworms.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Franksino just six my song real well, welcome back everybody. Cindy,
you brought something very interesting up that I didn't neglected,
didn't think of about the subject of the story of
Florida and the history.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So we had the author's the daughter and husband on
a couple of years ago, and it's a trilogy book series.
It's a true story, but the names have been changed,
and it is the same line of writing as this
a Land Remembered, but it's true, and it was the
(00:57):
author's father's family and all this horror family too. But
the cattle rustling, all that was going on in the
wilds of central Florida, North Florida, and.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Still before all the faces were put up. Absolutely it
was open of grazing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And it was quick reading. Yes, it was very quick reading,
very well done.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah. Jill's father and mother were professors at UF and
Jill's father wrote the book and it was so successful
that he wrote a sequel to and a sequel three.
He did, and I have the trilogy signed by both parents.
But they're hard to get. But I'm going to speak
to Jill and I'm going to arrange within the next
two three four weeks to have Jill back with Charlie,
(01:41):
her husband, and we'll talk about that, because really what
it does. We're talking here about land Remembered Georgia, Central Florida,
and as you can tell, the next fifteen to twenty
minutes South Florida. The book is just marvelous. But the
books that the trilogy that Jill's father wrote did not
(02:05):
go to the extent extent on the Jaffrige Jungle, Low
Marco Island, Miami Beach, and so on. It stayed topically
on the farming and grazing cattle and everything else central Florida.
That's why I knew of Arcadia. I never realized I
was almost at the capital of the cattle country. So
(02:27):
nineteen well, no, I we're at eighteen ninety eight, back
in the land, remember so now land Remember eighteen ninety eight.
So this is thirty five years after Tobias and Wanda
arrived in Florida by Lake Okeechobee. So by eighteen ninety eight,
(02:50):
the mcaview orange Groves are back. Replentie, Remember they got
wiped out. They planted more by it takes forever before
you see fruit. So that, but they're still going with
cattle drivers. They're still doing both, and but it's getting
more and more dangerous. So Zach decides that the son
(03:15):
that he's going to focus on breeding high quality cattle.
But while he's trying to brand an aggressive brah Ba bull,
the bull escapes the pen and gorse and kills both Glinda,
his wife, and Frog, one of the two. Remember Freedmen
eighteen ninety eight, nineteen oh five. Seven years later, Zach's
(03:39):
horse panics in the flood, throws Zach from the saddle.
Zach foot remember he had a problem with the foot,
right when you're a kid or growing up with the
foot gets caught in the syrup. Zach drowns. So now
what happens? So who's left their son? Saul Sala has left,
(04:02):
no mom, I'm no dad. So now what Dosal decide
to do? He gets a caretaker. He says, pardon the French,
screw this. I've had enough. You know, we worked, and
we work, and we keep losing money, we keep losing cattle,
we keep having storms. So the next twenty years Salt
(04:25):
transforms the area around Lake Okechobe into farmland. So they've
been buying land all that period of time. And now
so but this enrages Toby, you know, his half brother,
and it separates the two half brothers, Toby and Saul.
(04:47):
But what happens after that? So Saul has now got
a caretaker running the farm in the land, and so
he decides he's going to go into the real estate
business because he's got money from the land he was
selling that he bought for farms. So he decides. You
talk about twenty years, So now you talk about nineteen nineteen,
(05:11):
late nineteen ten, early mid nineteen twenties, sal makes millions.
Remember Sala is the grandson Tobias. Then you had Toby,
and then you had Salt. Salves the grandson, and he
makes millions as a real estate developer in Miami. What
does he do. He's selling property doing a real estate boom.
(05:37):
What happens now you got that hurt the hurricane of
nineteen twenty six, He buys the land back at great discount,
and then nineteen twenty eight you had the Okachobe hurricane.
Sal's girlfriend drowns at Lake Okachobe, flood of nineteen twenty
at hurricane and Sassal decides to build a dam around
(06:01):
Lake Okachobee. But what happens is unintentionally it diverts water
from Toby's village to Seminole Village, further making it difficult
to devastating the Seminole community. So over the years, Saul
the grandson becomes increasingly isolated from the world because he's
(06:22):
in Miami Beach. He's in Miami. He buys and sell land.
And not only does he buy sell land in Miami
and Miami Beach, but he also buys land north. You're
talking about what we would now call both called Lake
(06:42):
Lake Worth in the northern part of north of what
you and I would call Broward. And so you talk
about nineteen twenty eight, nineteen thirties, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties.
All this time he's building a monster over an empire
(07:04):
of royal estate buying and selling. And there was another
book I've read, and I think I made it. I
did a bookworm of review on it about the woman
in the depression where she made a fortune. Her husband
was just couldn't succeed anything, but she succeeded with real estate,
(07:25):
became like a multi multi molti millionaire, and then the
depression knocked the hell out of everything and she became
a pauper again. But as the book started in nineteen
sixty eight, Saul is dying. He's in his eighties, he's
the grandson, has no children, and what does he do?
(07:50):
Everybody kissing as you know what, and I've got so
I have enough time. I'm going to skip a few places.
So Sal is at a black tie suit Who's who occasion,
and he wears a string tie like the farmer and
(08:15):
not what he at the time would be a fancy tie.
And then I'll read to you finally the evening near
the climax, as a man droned on and on at
the microphone, Saul the grandson did not listen to the
introductory speech, knowing already what would be said about him,
(08:35):
because he's so philanthropic, is so successful. But the closing
words came taught to him. One of Florida's most prestigious family,
a man who played major role in conquering the wilderness
and bringing civilization and progress to Florida. Sal got up
to a thundrous applause, made his way to the podium,
adjusted the mic, and then he spoke slowly and deliberately,
(08:59):
and forget me. I'm gonna have to change a couple
of words here and there. South speaks all that stuff
you just heard about me, He's just a buncha bullboe.
It's all lies, am. I made all that up, just
as Yah gullible. You guys are all you wealthy, phony
(09:19):
fancy people, and it's all a shame on the name
of mcavee. To all those Macavies who left desert before me,
I apologize for telling such whoppers. He pauses a minute,
look at the audience, who was shocked into silence, and
he continues. My granddaddy Toby wasn't any plantation owner in Georgia.
(09:40):
He left their poor, dirt and starving, and when we
arrived here, all he owned was an ox cart. He
didn't start a cattle in a citrus empire. He and
my granny and my poppy slept on the ground eight
tuns and rabbits till he could build a shack to
live in. He caught wild cow's in a swamp to
they have to had enough to sell the first bunch,
(10:02):
and then he went from there. Aye so I've never
been to college one day in my life, much less
hold a degree from anywhere. My Granpy and Granny were illiterate.
My Papa was too ill. He married my mama and
she thought of to read and write everything I know.
She taught me at night beside the cold lamb. My
(10:23):
Granpy would never buy the land, and never own so
much as a grain of sold he as I have
in my lifetime. He was a squatter. He believed that
no man can own the land, that all the land
belongs to the Lord, and the Lord lets us stay
on it temporariest tenants. If this is so, and now
(10:44):
I now believe it's so. Remember he's dying, he's eighty
five years old. Then the Lord must be powerful man
at all of us for what we've all done to
his property. There's all going to be a day of
reckoning for you and me. Remember they've built up my
Heami Miami Beach, all the hotels, all the beg tall buildings.
The first land owed by my pappy was one in
(11:07):
a horse race in put Usa, And the first land
I bought in Miami Beach was bought on money I
earned selling buzzards on the streets to Palm Beach. But
he was not selling them as buzzers. He was selling
them as a rare birds to be collectible. It wasn't
me who said, as was said, conquered the wilderness. I
(11:28):
and the least of the mcavees. It was Tobias mcavee,
and Emma and Skillett and Zach and Glenda and Frog
and Bonzo and several others I won't even mention. All
I did was cash in on what they did. They're
buried right now in the middle of Orange Grove, besides
the Kissimi River, and that's where I'll rest too, when
the time comes. And it might also interest you to
(11:51):
know that my papa hung enough men to fill this
head table. I killed two when I had two, the
ones that got the chef from all this so called progress.
Where an old man Keith Tiger, and Tawanda Cypress mcavee,
and my half brother Kobe Cypress mcavee, and a bunch
more still living out there, the seminoles living out in
(12:12):
these swamps. When I first started out, it's got better.
When I first started out alone after my Papa died,
I didn't know what I was doing, and I thought
I was doing the right thing, But your sons are
bitch as new and you did it deliberately. That's the
only thing that marks me from you. To catch word
with me is stupidity. With you, it's greed. Remember this
(12:34):
is a tie only fancy, expensive great food. More is better,
better is better. While you bassars are too stupid to
know this soon won't be no more else you haven't
been here long enough to remember. All of you who
don't like what I've just said here tonight can kiss
my ass. I don't give a damn about you, and
(12:56):
you don't give a damn about me, pure and simple,
and besides that, you've seen the last of me you'll
ever see. I'm going to hide from such as hu
and pray for forgiveness for what I've helped to do.
If I could rip out the concrete and put back
the wood, I would, but I can't. Progress ain't reversible.
What's done is done forever, and I'm sure as hell
(13:17):
not proud of it. If any of you idiots had
the brain of a jaybird, you'd stop me right now,
for what we've done to this place is just the
past fifty years. What the hell do you think is
going to happen in the next fifty He stopped abruptly
and said, I do thank you kindly for your attention.
Then you walked briskly to the next exit and left.
(13:39):
And when he left, he had his driver drive him
out to the west coast to punt to Russa went
to the cabin. There was nothing in it, and that's
where he died. Think about the story, what we have
done with progress and who paid the price for it.
(14:00):
Think about it. We'll be right back. Everybody a land
remembered Patrick D. Smith and usually Ralph Okl and Cindy Schwartz,
the bookworms, our veteran's voice, will be right back.
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There's a new high woman art gallery in Vero Beach.
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And what was the astical politics? You can go to
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Speaker 2 (16:01):
And welcome back to arm and Swiss Radio showing Ralph
Nathan Oak.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And life gets more exciting with each passing day, and
love is either in your home, Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Or one yeah go ahead?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Roe.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, Well Frank, sorry to interrupt you, but I just
made a phone call from the studio and I just
spoke to Jill Seercy and the three books that uh
Cindy mentioned and we discussed. Wiregrass Country was number of
the first book. The second book, I didn't ask for
(16:43):
a father's name, but it's it's not sirc obviously wire
Brass Country. The second one is Weed in Wiregrass and
the third book is Wiregrass Politics. All that takes place
in central Florida. And this is with the cattle booms
and arcadia. So literally it's like a sequel of the
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uh Land Remembered, but more local and written in a
simpler way. Jill's father was very eloquent, but he could
make you feel like you're right there with him, living
the tale he's talking about in his books. And so
the Wiregrass Country was so successful and sold a ton
(17:30):
of them, but the number two, number three books never
took off for some reason, because he didn't write them
right away, and by the time they became public, the
public forgot about Wiregrass Country. So Jill agreed that she
and Charlie, my neighbors, my friends, will be on the
show in a few weeks and I will have the
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three books with me and we're gonna discuss it. Now.
We've discussed it before. But you know, some things I've
worth every so often refreshed, refreshed and reviewed. And that's
what I'm doing here what I wanted you to see
with the land remembered I first started the show today,
but telling you that man, this world and the country's
(18:14):
kind of screwed up right now. And here the trials
and tribulation of the mcavie family from eighteen fifty eight
to nineteen sixty eight, one hundred and ten years, what
transpired and with it? Ah, and here you oh us,
Cindy just brought Where did you have that? Cindy had
(18:36):
Wiregrass Country in the car?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I keep it in there in case I want
to reread it. I don't have the other two though, that's.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
What I want.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I We'll get them for you, Perb. The other two
Herb and Monthsey Chapman, chap m A. N Go through
the dollar Store, and not dollar store, the book depot
a library bookstore on US one and fourth Street, and
they sometimes have one of those. Go to the library
and take them out. I'm sure they've got them in there.
(19:04):
And you can even possibly go to go to Amazon
or go to eBay. You'll find these for two, three,
four or five dollars and the books are wonderful. So
and remember, by the ways, when I do book reviews,
this is strectly of my choice. There's no reciprocity, no payment.
This is my job as your host to kind of
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bring you up to date, g have fun. Sometimes they
give you good to bad news, and just share what
life's all about. And you know, when herb Oscar Anderson
mentored me, he always reminded me, make the audience feel
like you're part of them and they're part of you.
And I hope that's what I'm doing with you, because
I care about people. I love people, and all of
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us need to give back. We need to pay forward,
we need to return favors. We need to have the
way to help. Somebody calls you they need a ride.
Somebody calls you they're out of money, or you're at
the grocery store and somebody short two dollars, those little
things in life that you can do to make somebody's
life a little bit easier. And in a way, that's
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what a Land Remembered is telling you and the wiregrass
country with the rough things that they have to survive
in order to succeed. Well, all of us have had
to go through whatever we have to go through. And
we're here, you're listening, and I'm talking. Cindy's here and
talking running the equipment here. The point I'm saying is
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life's too short. Don't waste it. Don't worry about tomorrow.
Don't worry about it. If you have no control about something,
the hell with it, don't worry about it. There's nothing
you can do. Yeah, yesterday, remember it, learn from it.
If it was a mistake, capitalize on it, learn from it,
and don't repeat it. So to succeed, you need to fail,
(20:51):
and to fail you got to try, So keep trying.
Life is like that. Yes, I'm an eternal optimist. I
never will stop up as long as I'm alive. I'm
going to be the optimist. I'm gonna be the jerk
of the or the clown of the town. Because I'm
gonna make you smile if I got to do whatever
I gotta do. Last week, I was at Tough on
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eighteenth Street in the US, one the dunkin Donuts, and
a elderly woman about my age was sitting there frowning,
not happy. So I got off my seat. I went
over there. I looked. I just stood there and looked
at her. She looks up at me, like, what the
hell you want? And I said, can you do me
a favor? She said, what says? Can you give me
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a smile? And she cracked up. She gave me a
smile with her mouth and their eyes, and I lit
up her day for the day. That's what life's about.
Everybody make somebody's day, make somebody's moment. That's what it's about.
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Right? It is from eleven am to three pm. A
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We proudly salute you. Rest in peace forever
You make me feel so young.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And welcome back to Arbitam Sorry's radio show and Ralph
Nathanogo Tody's The Bookworms.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Franksino just six my song real well, welcome back everybody. Cindy,
you brought something very interesting up that I didn't neglected,
didn't think of about the subject of the story of
Florida and the history.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So we had the author's the daughter and husband on
a couple of years ago, and it's a trilogy book series.
It's a true story, but the names have been changed,
and it is the same line of writing as this
a Land Remembered, but it's true, and it was the
(00:57):
author's father's family and all this horror family too. But
the cattle rustling, all that was going on in the
wilds of central Florida, North Florida, and.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Still before all the faces were put up. Absolutely it
was open of grazing.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And it was quick reading. Yes, it was very quick reading,
very well done.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah. Jill's father and mother were professors at UF and
Jill's father wrote the book and it was so successful
that he wrote a sequel to and a sequel three.
He did, and I have the trilogy signed by both parents.
But they're hard to get. But I'm going to speak
to Jill and I'm going to arrange within the next
two three four weeks to have Jill back with Charlie,
(01:41):
her husband, and we'll talk about that, because really what
it does. We're talking here about land Remembered Georgia, Central Florida,
and as you can tell, the next fifteen to twenty
minutes South Florida. The book is just marvelous. But the
books that the trilogy that Jill's father wrote did not
(02:05):
go to the extent extent on the Jaffrige Jungle, Low
Marco Island, Miami Beach, and so on. It stayed topically
on the farming and grazing cattle and everything else central Florida.
That's why I knew of Arcadia. I never realized I
was almost at the capital of the cattle country. So
(02:27):
nineteen well, no, I we're at eighteen ninety eight, back
in the land, remember so now land Remember eighteen ninety eight.
So this is thirty five years after Tobias and Wanda
arrived in Florida by Lake Okeechobee. So by eighteen ninety eight,
(02:50):
the mcaview orange Groves are back. Replentie, Remember they got
wiped out. They planted more by it takes forever before
you see fruit. So that, but they're still going with
cattle drivers. They're still doing both, and but it's getting
more and more dangerous. So Zach decides that the son
(03:15):
that he's going to focus on breeding high quality cattle.
But while he's trying to brand an aggressive brah Ba bull,
the bull escapes the pen and gorse and kills both Glinda,
his wife, and Frog, one of the two. Remember Freedmen
eighteen ninety eight, nineteen oh five. Seven years later, Zach's
(03:39):
horse panics in the flood, throws Zach from the saddle.
Zach foot remember he had a problem with the foot,
right when you're a kid or growing up with the
foot gets caught in the syrup. Zach drowns. So now
what happens? So who's left their son? Saul Sala has left,
(04:02):
no mom, I'm no dad. So now what Dosal decide
to do? He gets a caretaker. He says, pardon the French,
screw this. I've had enough. You know, we worked, and
we work, and we keep losing money, we keep losing cattle,
we keep having storms. So the next twenty years Salt
(04:25):
transforms the area around Lake Okechobe into farmland. So they've
been buying land all that period of time. And now
so but this enrages Toby, you know, his half brother,
and it separates the two half brothers, Toby and Saul.
(04:47):
But what happens after that? So Saul has now got
a caretaker running the farm in the land, and so
he decides he's going to go into the real estate
business because he's got money from the land he was
selling that he bought for farms. So he decides. You
talk about twenty years, So now you talk about nineteen nineteen,
(05:11):
late nineteen ten, early mid nineteen twenties, sal makes millions.
Remember Sala is the grandson Tobias. Then you had Toby,
and then you had Salt. Salves the grandson, and he
makes millions as a real estate developer in Miami. What
does he do. He's selling property doing a real estate boom.
(05:37):
What happens now you got that hurt the hurricane of
nineteen twenty six, He buys the land back at great discount,
and then nineteen twenty eight you had the Okachobe hurricane.
Sal's girlfriend drowns at Lake Okachobe, flood of nineteen twenty
at hurricane and Sassal decides to build a dam around
(06:01):
Lake Okachobee. But what happens is unintentionally it diverts water
from Toby's village to Seminole Village, further making it difficult
to devastating the Seminole community. So over the years, Saul
the grandson becomes increasingly isolated from the world because he's
(06:22):
in Miami Beach. He's in Miami. He buys and sell land.
And not only does he buy sell land in Miami
and Miami Beach, but he also buys land north. You're
talking about what we would now call both called Lake
(06:42):
Lake Worth in the northern part of north of what
you and I would call Broward. And so you talk
about nineteen twenty eight, nineteen thirties, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties.
All this time he's building a monster over an empire
(07:04):
of royal estate buying and selling. And there was another
book I've read, and I think I made it. I
did a bookworm of review on it about the woman
in the depression where she made a fortune. Her husband
was just couldn't succeed anything, but she succeeded with real estate,
(07:25):
became like a multi multi molti millionaire, and then the
depression knocked the hell out of everything and she became
a pauper again. But as the book started in nineteen
sixty eight, Saul is dying. He's in his eighties, he's
the grandson, has no children, and what does he do?
(07:50):
Everybody kissing as you know what, and I've got so
I have enough time. I'm going to skip a few places.
So Sal is at a black tie suit Who's who occasion,
and he wears a string tie like the farmer and
(08:15):
not what he at the time would be a fancy tie.
And then I'll read to you finally the evening near
the climax, as a man droned on and on at
the microphone, Saul the grandson did not listen to the
introductory speech, knowing already what would be said about him,
(08:35):
because he's so philanthropic, is so successful. But the closing
words came taught to him. One of Florida's most prestigious family,
a man who played major role in conquering the wilderness
and bringing civilization and progress to Florida. Sal got up
to a thundrous applause, made his way to the podium,
adjusted the mic, and then he spoke slowly and deliberately,
(08:59):
and forget me. I'm gonna have to change a couple
of words here and there. South speaks all that stuff
you just heard about me, He's just a buncha bullboe.
It's all lies, am. I made all that up, just
as Yah gullible. You guys are all you wealthy, phony
(09:19):
fancy people, and it's all a shame on the name
of mcavee. To all those Macavies who left desert before me,
I apologize for telling such whoppers. He pauses a minute,
look at the audience, who was shocked into silence, and
he continues. My granddaddy Toby wasn't any plantation owner in Georgia.
(09:40):
He left their poor, dirt and starving, and when we
arrived here, all he owned was an ox cart. He
didn't start a cattle in a citrus empire. He and
my granny and my poppy slept on the ground eight
tuns and rabbits till he could build a shack to
live in. He caught wild cow's in a swamp to
they have to had enough to sell the first bunch,
(10:02):
and then he went from there. Aye so I've never
been to college one day in my life, much less
hold a degree from anywhere. My Granpy and Granny were illiterate.
My Papa was too ill. He married my mama and
she thought of to read and write everything I know.
She taught me at night beside the cold lamb. My
(10:23):
Granpy would never buy the land, and never own so
much as a grain of sold he as I have
in my lifetime. He was a squatter. He believed that
no man can own the land, that all the land
belongs to the Lord, and the Lord lets us stay
on it temporariest tenants. If this is so, and now
(10:44):
I now believe it's so. Remember he's dying, he's eighty
five years old. Then the Lord must be powerful man
at all of us for what we've all done to
his property. There's all going to be a day of
reckoning for you and me. Remember they've built up my
Heami Miami Beach, all the hotels, all the beg tall buildings.
The first land owed by my pappy was one in
(11:07):
a horse race in put Usa, And the first land
I bought in Miami Beach was bought on money I
earned selling buzzards on the streets to Palm Beach. But
he was not selling them as buzzers. He was selling
them as a rare birds to be collectible. It wasn't
me who said, as was said, conquered the wilderness. I
(11:28):
and the least of the mcavees. It was Tobias mcavee,
and Emma and Skillett and Zach and Glenda and Frog
and Bonzo and several others I won't even mention. All
I did was cash in on what they did. They're
buried right now in the middle of Orange Grove, besides
the Kissimi River, and that's where I'll rest too, when
the time comes. And it might also interest you to
(11:51):
know that my papa hung enough men to fill this
head table. I killed two when I had two, the
ones that got the chef from all this so called progress.
Where an old man Keith Tiger, and Tawanda Cypress mcavee,
and my half brother Kobe Cypress mcavee, and a bunch
more still living out there, the seminoles living out in
(12:12):
these swamps. When I first started out, it's got better.
When I first started out alone after my Papa died,
I didn't know what I was doing, and I thought
I was doing the right thing, But your sons are
bitch as new and you did it deliberately. That's the
only thing that marks me from you. To catch word
with me is stupidity. With you, it's greed. Remember this
(12:34):
is a tie only fancy, expensive great food. More is better,
better is better. While you bassars are too stupid to
know this soon won't be no more else you haven't
been here long enough to remember. All of you who
don't like what I've just said here tonight can kiss
my ass. I don't give a damn about you, and
(12:56):
you don't give a damn about me, pure and simple,
and besides that, you've seen the last of me you'll
ever see. I'm going to hide from such as hu
and pray for forgiveness for what I've helped to do.
If I could rip out the concrete and put back
the wood, I would, but I can't. Progress ain't reversible.
What's done is done forever, and I'm sure as hell
(13:17):
not proud of it. If any of you idiots had
the brain of a jaybird, you'd stop me right now,
for what we've done to this place is just the
past fifty years. What the hell do you think is
going to happen in the next fifty He stopped abruptly
and said, I do thank you kindly for your attention.
Then you walked briskly to the next exit and left.
(13:39):
And when he left, he had his driver drive him
out to the west coast to punt to Russa went
to the cabin. There was nothing in it, and that's
where he died. Think about the story, what we have
done with progress and who paid the price for it.
(14:00):
Think about it. We'll be right back. Everybody a land
remembered Patrick D. Smith and usually Ralph Okl and Cindy Schwartz,
the bookworms, our veteran's voice, will be right back.
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Hey, did you hear the latest about our Florida High Woman?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
What?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
There's a new high woman art gallery in Vero Beach.
Really where eighteen seventy two Commerce Avenue?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
When's it open?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Seven days a week called ninety five four five five
seven six two two six for an appointment any time?
No kidding, Just call for your appointment ninety five four
five five seven six two two six and then go
to eighteen seventy two Commerce Avenue. Wow, that's good news.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
A number of the itex trading community, your I text
dollars are welcome if you're a young at home.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And what was the astical politics? You can go to
extremes with impossible scheme.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And welcome back to arm and Swiss Radio showing Ralph
Nathan Oak.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And life gets more exciting with each passing day, and
love is either in your home, Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Or one yeah go ahead?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Roe.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, Well Frank, sorry to interrupt you, but I just
made a phone call from the studio and I just
spoke to Jill Seercy and the three books that uh
Cindy mentioned and we discussed. Wiregrass Country was number of
the first book. The second book, I didn't ask for
(16:43):
a father's name, but it's it's not sirc obviously wire
Brass Country. The second one is Weed in Wiregrass and
the third book is Wiregrass Politics. All that takes place
in central Florida. And this is with the cattle booms
and arcadia. So literally it's like a sequel of the
(17:08):
uh Land Remembered, but more local and written in a
simpler way. Jill's father was very eloquent, but he could
make you feel like you're right there with him, living
the tale he's talking about in his books. And so
the Wiregrass Country was so successful and sold a ton
(17:30):
of them, but the number two, number three books never
took off for some reason, because he didn't write them
right away, and by the time they became public, the
public forgot about Wiregrass Country. So Jill agreed that she
and Charlie, my neighbors, my friends, will be on the
show in a few weeks and I will have the
(17:51):
three books with me and we're gonna discuss it. Now.
We've discussed it before. But you know, some things I've
worth every so often refreshed, refreshed and reviewed. And that's
what I'm doing here what I wanted you to see
with the land remembered I first started the show today,
but telling you that man, this world and the country's
(18:14):
kind of screwed up right now. And here the trials
and tribulation of the mcavie family from eighteen fifty eight
to nineteen sixty eight, one hundred and ten years, what
transpired and with it? Ah, and here you oh us,
Cindy just brought Where did you have that? Cindy had
(18:36):
Wiregrass Country in the car?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I keep it in there in case I want
to reread it. I don't have the other two though, that's.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
What I want.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I We'll get them for you, Perb. The other two
Herb and Monthsey Chapman, chap m A. N Go through
the dollar Store, and not dollar store, the book depot
a library bookstore on US one and fourth Street, and
they sometimes have one of those. Go to the library
and take them out. I'm sure they've got them in there.
(19:04):
And you can even possibly go to go to Amazon
or go to eBay. You'll find these for two, three,
four or five dollars and the books are wonderful. So
and remember, by the ways, when I do book reviews,
this is strectly of my choice. There's no reciprocity, no payment.
This is my job as your host to kind of
(19:25):
bring you up to date, g have fun. Sometimes they
give you good to bad news, and just share what
life's all about. And you know, when herb Oscar Anderson
mentored me, he always reminded me, make the audience feel
like you're part of them and they're part of you.
And I hope that's what I'm doing with you, because
I care about people. I love people, and all of
(19:46):
us need to give back. We need to pay forward,
we need to return favors. We need to have the
way to help. Somebody calls you they need a ride.
Somebody calls you they're out of money, or you're at
the grocery store and somebody short two dollars, those little
things in life that you can do to make somebody's
life a little bit easier. And in a way, that's
(20:07):
what a Land Remembered is telling you and the wiregrass
country with the rough things that they have to survive
in order to succeed. Well, all of us have had
to go through whatever we have to go through. And
we're here, you're listening, and I'm talking. Cindy's here and
talking running the equipment here. The point I'm saying is
(20:29):
life's too short. Don't waste it. Don't worry about tomorrow.
Don't worry about it. If you have no control about something,
the hell with it, don't worry about it. There's nothing
you can do. Yeah, yesterday, remember it, learn from it.
If it was a mistake, capitalize on it, learn from it,
and don't repeat it. So to succeed, you need to fail,
(20:51):
and to fail you got to try, So keep trying.
Life is like that. Yes, I'm an eternal optimist. I
never will stop up as long as I'm alive. I'm
going to be the optimist. I'm gonna be the jerk
of the or the clown of the town. Because I'm
gonna make you smile if I got to do whatever
I gotta do. Last week, I was at Tough on
(21:13):
eighteenth Street in the US, one the dunkin Donuts, and
a elderly woman about my age was sitting there frowning,
not happy. So I got off my seat. I went
over there. I looked. I just stood there and looked
at her. She looks up at me, like, what the
hell you want? And I said, can you do me
a favor? She said, what says? Can you give me
(21:33):
a smile? And she cracked up. She gave me a
smile with her mouth and their eyes, and I lit
up her day for the day. That's what life's about.
Everybody make somebody's day, make somebody's moment. That's what it's about.
And you know it all comes back to you, the
good and the bad and the ugly. Remember October nineteenth,
(21:57):
Jump start the Antique Car Show. And that's what the
Purple Heart Cane Project. It's at the Fort Pierce Elks Club,
six oh eight South fifth Street in Fort Piers. Call
me for information ninety five four five five seven six
two two six, or called Bill to register. Bill is
at seven seven to two three four to two thirty
(22:20):
nine eighty and I will be there with a thousand
die cast cars and a booth for the High Woman
Art Gallery.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
And what time is it again?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Right? It is from eleven am to three pm. A
lot of food, a lot of antique cars, a lot
of prizes, a lot of fun. And he's gonna be
fun because I'm gonna be there right right, Raila will
be there with the High Woman Art Gallery. Okay, you'll
probably have a double booth and we will have a raffle. Well,
(22:49):
you can win the High Woman Art Painting. So come
on over there and have a real good time. It's
outdoor for the cars, indoors for the uh vendors. It
was and off a good cause for the Purple Heartcane
project that friend Lloyd Lasmbie is in charge of. At
(23:10):
this point, we just want to say thank you to
one of our sponsors, a special thank you to the
High Women Art Gallery in eighteen seventy two, Commerce Avenue
in Bureau Beach threw open Saturdays tent to three, available
seven days a week by appointment. Thank you all our sponsors,
and thank you to all of you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
George Edward Bahen Army William E. Collins, Junior Army, Doctor
Irwin M. Potash Air Force, Cliff Jordan Borden Army, Christian L.
Mazzola Army Reserves.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Benjamin Bibo Marine Corps.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Glenn phil Harp Army Korea.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Michael Karlin Marine Corps. And to all the veterans that
have passed away representing US in World War Two, in
Korea and Vietnam, and all of our other fallen heroes,
our your brothers and sisters, we thank you for your service.
We proudly salute you. Rest in peace forever
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