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December 10, 2025 25 mins
Realizing what Hannukah stands for is explained how we navigate hurriances' wrath. WWII shows the resilence of the "cause" and the Hammer lends us bravery. 
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
You're listening to Evergreen Media Network. I am Cindy Schwartz
and this is our Veterans Voice radio show with your host,
Ralph Dathan.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'll go, oh, everybody, the festival that season. We're here
the holiday season, Cindy, oh man. Once you got Thanksgiving,
it rolls into and rolls into Christmas and New Year's and.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
They should like make one word for all of it.
I can't believe no when's done that yet.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I do holidays. Okay, okay, So now this is December thirteenth,
it's a Saturday. Then everybody, you know it is tomorrow
night and the next day tomorrow night we Jewish people
light the first light of Hanukkah? So what is Hanakkah?

(01:00):
But by the way, so you know we have our
different Patty with us and good day and hello Patty.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Hello Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
So when Patty and I were doing our homework about
all right, how can we make something that's a holiday
still a religious, joyous occasion, but make it a memorable
with respect to what we as Americans have got survived

(01:35):
in witness to live through historically. And it came up
with World War Two. So now you're saying to yourself Ralph,
what day lights are you talking about? Knaka. That's a
couple of thousand years ago, and World War Two is
eighty years ago. She says, all right, well let me

(01:56):
tell you. Listen to Ralph. Put yourself in what in
the imagine the story I'm going to tell you, and
then you'll know where I'm coming from. But remember this
for the rest of your life, whether you're in Japan, Canada, Israel, England, America, wherever,

(02:18):
every time you hear the word hurricane, you're going to
think of what Cindy Hanika.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, I'm like, how is this going together?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
We got we got everybody, Cindy Patty, everybody knows we
live in Florida. And what's the thing that keeps some
people from coming to moving to Florida? And I'm not
going to discuss politics, forget it. The Big Ah, the
big h hurricanes. So for six months we have beautiful weather,

(02:47):
sometimes humid and hot, and then for six months we
have the threats of Hurricane knocking Wood. We kind of
missed it this year, yep. Okay, So now imagine Cindy,
Paddy Ralph burned three different locations and a hurricane just
hit thir a beach. Let's say there's no electricity. The

(03:13):
streets are flooded, trees are down, devastation everywhere, and we
have no electricity. We got water in the bathtub. We
have no ice, but we have no light, God forbid,
no air conditioning. Oh, by the way, you better always

(03:35):
have your charge already fair anyway. So now the hurricane's over,
the storms passed, not raining anymore. It may be a
little gloomy, but it's not cold, and it's nighttime. So
now you've just barricaded yourself for a few days because

(03:56):
the storm is coming in and going out, and you
name it. And the storm goes away. And now it's
six seven o'clock going eight o'clock at night, and it's dark.
We got candles where they We should have put them
out before the storm. So we find a couple, but

(04:19):
the wick is gone. And what do you do with
the candle without a wike? You dump it. So we
find a candle. It's not sixteen inches high, but it's
a little higher than a couple of inches, nice and wide,
about three four inches wide round, and we light it,
and we figured, you know, today is today, Let's light it.

(04:41):
Let's hope it stays lit for tonight, and then tomorrow
will gallivan somewhere walk and maybe we'll find some candles
in a store. So now it's midnight, you go to sleep.
You wake up six seven eight in the morning, daylight,
the sunlight out, and oh god, I forgot my candle.

(05:04):
Where is it? You go to the candle, it is
still burning and you can't believe it. So you blow
it out. And the next now, the second day, you
go to a store forget it. You go to another store,
forget it. Whatever whatever they may have had they sold

(05:27):
before the storm, if they're open after the storm. So
now it's the second night, and now you're panicking. I
blew out the wick this morning. Well let's see how
long it'll lasts. And we like the lick. The lick
the wick again around yeah, six seven eight at night

(05:49):
and blown behold light, and you think yourself, wow, that's neat.
Let's hope it stays up for the night, and maybe
we'll gallivant another direction and we'll figure out something. We're
not going to burn anything in the patio, We're not
gonna light up anything. And if we've got to gas stover,
we're not gonna use it. Because you got problems potentially,

(06:13):
So you light the wick, you go to sleep, you
forget to blow it out, and this the next morning
you wake up, garn that wick is still let the
candle still on, so you blow it out again. And
this goes on for another night and another night, and
every day you go looking for candles or flashlights and

(06:33):
you can't find any. And finally, on the eighth night,
it's still lit. It's still something left on that candle.
You know, it gets hollow and hollow in the middle
under the wick. And the next morning, which would be
the ninth morning, the wick is out. There's no lights
on when you got up, the candle itself out by itself.

(06:58):
So what am I leading up to Patty about those
eight nights with that candle in Hurricane?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Oh? Well, you know, I I'm thinking about gosh, what's
the name of that actor and singer Adam Shan Sandler.
I'm thinking about it. It's crazy nights. The song Hanikah anyhow.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Welcome to everybody? Eight right, so always brought Hurricane.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
So what is the oldest congressionally charged Veterans service organization
in existence? People are like, wait, what, we're changing subjects
fast I'm betting a lot of folks are picking the
veterans of foreign wars, and that is a really good guess.

(07:53):
Spanish American War veterans started the VFW in eighteen ninety nine,
so Bunker app tipped to our friends at the VFW.
But a group of Civil War veterans started the Jewish
War Veterans of the United States of America in eighteen

(08:14):
ninety six, beating the VFW by three years. And it's
around with about seven thousand members who've had an outsized
positive influence in government and society. For all veterans and
so Jews have served in the American military since the

(08:35):
War of Independence, and at least seventeen Medal of Honor
recipients are Jewish. And with that, with that, I want
to wish our Jewish friends and neighbors, especially our Jewish veterans,
the best Honika ever.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Thank you those sweet And by the way, Siddy and
I just noticed before the show, when we do the
taps on a roll tonight, you know the very first
one is an Army lieutenant colonel that would have celebrated
Honkkah with us. So how memorialized wise, we leckt out Okay,

(09:20):
so now everybody's wondering, Patty. All right, so now we're tabaknikah,
we're talking about American war veterans and we're talking about hurricanes.
What the hell is going on? Ralph?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well, okay, okay, I am not jus okay, which either
makes me the wrong or the perfect guy to tell
the Honkkah story.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's an important story for all of us, not just
for Duke correct. It's an inspiring history about resisting tyranny
when any remnant of good sense says you are going okay,
I I hope listeners will see that the spirit which

(10:05):
moved the people in Modine Judea to resist tyranny in
one sixty seven PCE is the same one that moved
Patriot militiamen to resist the British regulars at Lexington and
Concord in seventeen seventy five. Different fights, same spirit, So

(10:31):
quick recap. We all remember Alexander the Great guy was
good at the conquering game, but he had a tendency
to live fast and die young. He was probably thirty
two when he died in three twenty three PCE. Because
his empire was nacient when he died it fragmented rapidly,

(10:54):
and history got the Ptolemaic kingdom in Egypt. And I
will say this word one time, the Celia said Empire
in Syria. Both were Hellenistic Greeks. Okay, through the twist
and turns of history, Judea, homeland of the Jews, ended

(11:15):
up in modern parlance, being a client state, first to Egypt,
then to Syria. In general, neither was much interested in
getting involved in the internal affairs of Judea or Judaism.
That is until this guy, Antiochus the Fourth, whose greatest

(11:37):
talents were usurping thrones and angering people to revolutions. He
decided to effectively end Judaism in Judea. Now that's kind
of like deciding to end Catholicism in Vatican City or
Islam in Mecca. Good luck with that project, and I

(11:58):
hope your medical life insurances are paid up. So in
one sixty seven BCE, some Greek Syrian officials showed up
in Modine to try to make Jews there demonstrate their
allegiance by engaging in Hellenistic religious practices. Now, some decided
to go along with it, but others said, ah, hell no.

(12:24):
There was some fighting there was some dying, and the
newborn Jewish resistance headed to the hills. Quite literally, they
went to the hill country. Now, the Syrians, they could
have backed off the oppression, but no, they decided to
do the whole crushing rebellion dan After all, in their minds,

(12:49):
they had the numbers, they had the war machines, they
were gonna win. The Jewish rebels. They had this fella
named Judah who they nicknamed the Hammer Patty Hammer.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes, Hanika Hurricanes commercial time. All right, now, everybody remember
the Hammer. No, he's not a wrestler, he's a Jideon.
We'll be right back, everybody. I hope you What trying
to do is we're trying to help tell you stories
in an entertaining form so it'd be more fun to

(13:27):
kind of enjoy and probably and possibly remember. We'll be
right back, everybody, our Veterans Voice Radio.

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Speaker 1 (15:08):
Your I text dollars are welcome and welcome back to
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Hurricanes the Hammer and Honiker.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Welcome back everybody. By the way, before I forget, this
is your last opportunity. You're listening to this show between
eight and nine this morning, which is December thirteenth, and
you've heard about December thirteenth for a few weeks. Now
an hour from now ten am until three in the

(15:42):
afternoon today, Saday thirteenth. Michael Ends a Florida landscape artist
who was trained by Beanie Bachus, mentor of the Highwayman
for twenty years, and he also worked with Andy Warhol
in New York. Andy Warhol, of course, is the infamous
Campbell soup painting So eighteen seventy two Commerce Avenue in

(16:09):
Vero Beach, you were not gonna miss it. If you're
anywhere around, there can be cars all over the place,
and you're gonna see the yard sale signs, you're gonna
see flags, you're going to see joyous occasion. So if
you've got the time and a good percentage of the
paintings in the gallery have holiday prices. No, we didn't

(16:31):
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you walk in, you'll recognize which ones. So hopefully we'll
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Commerce Avenue in Vero Beach.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Patty, Yes, we were discussing the Hammer.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, I got my toolbox open.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
We have the Hammer, you know. I really wonder the
two men who created Superman back in the nineteen thirties,
Eagle and Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. They were both Jewish,
and I I really wonder if part of the creation

(17:20):
of Superman is based on Judah. This guy nicknamed the Hammer,
So okay. In our last exciting episode of Hanika Backstory,
we were talking about how this Jewish rebellion began when
the Syrians you know, thought they could put the thumbscrews
on the Jewish population, and they ended up producing this

(17:44):
guy named the Hammer. So it turned out that having
superior numbers and weapons doesn't always win battles when you
are trying to suppress people's freedoms. The Hammer Hammer brilliantly
used terrain and deception to beat out one superior army

(18:07):
after another, and by the time his forces decided to
mount a frontal liberation of Jerusalem, the Greek Syrians had
pretty much already given up the fight. And this is
the part of the Pnica story. I think most people
are at least moderately familiar with. Hanka means dedication. The

(18:33):
Jewish freedom fighters, commonly known as the Maccabees, immediately set
themselves to physically and spiritually repairing the Second Temple from
the virulent vandalism the Syrians had done to it. And
as part of the repair and rededication of the Temple

(18:56):
to Judaism, the freedom fighters needed to light an oil lamp,
and there seemed to be only enough oil for a
single day, but it would take another seven days to
get more oil ready. But the freedom fighters they lit

(19:17):
that lamp and they prayed. Their tiny amount of oil
held out for the entire time needed until the new
oil was ready. And Honkkah is a celebration of resisting tyranny,
the indominable longing for freedom and faith that takes you

(19:38):
up to and including laying your life on the line
for conscience sake. And that's why it's important to all
of us and by the way, for those who don't know,
Hanukkah is December fifteenth, which technically begins at nightfall on
December fourteenth to December twenty second this year. And again,

(20:02):
a happy, happy Hanukkah to all of our Jewish veterans,
friends and neighbors.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okay, I'm going to interrupt for a second because I'm
gonna make you laugh out there. So now go back
to the scenario the hurricanes and the one little candle.
Well years ago, I think we were still in the
fourth Lauder, the prowd area. There was a hurricane there
in Plantation. Anyway, we ran out of candles, and I

(20:33):
remembered that we had Hanakah candles in the cabinet, and
we used the kanakah candles and they don't last long,
so we have to almost be there looking for it
and replace them right away. And so to us, we
also remember her. Now we're on the other side there,
I'm trying to teach you about hurricanes and candles, and

(20:55):
we internally as a Jewish family had remembered that we
have kind of got candles during a hurricane. So now,
what's the relationship hurricanes hanikah? In World War Two?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
You know, when when Ralph and I fucking breaking down
the fork wall here. Okay, I'm going to talk to
the listeners and say people that that when Ralph and
I discussed, you know, what are we going to do
this year? And and I threw out this idea of
let's take the story of Hanukkah, the story of Judah,

(21:34):
the hammer and the the the defeat of the of
the Greek Syrians, and that and and that spirit of
that just cries for freedom, that can, that can beat
all odds. Sometimes I said, hey, why don't I take
that story and connect it to a couple of events

(21:57):
in US military history that I think show that same spirit.
And the first one that I picked, they both happened
to be coincidentally World War two. The two stories I picked,
But the first one I picked is Midway. The Battle
of Midway. Now, the Empire of Japan had started losing

(22:20):
its war with America on December seventh, nineteen forty one,
the morning it bombed US military installations on Owahu Island, Hawaii.
Just the Japanese high command opted to ignore all the
good intelligence they had about US industrial and recruitment capacity,

(22:43):
so they didn't realize they'd already lost just by picking
the fight. They were still blinded by arrogance and motivated reasoning.
But it would take a bit for the US to
get those industrial and recruitment resources to the field as
ships and sailors. So going into nineteen forty two, the

(23:07):
US was still dealing with Operation drum Beat, the German
U boats sinking ships in the Atlantic as well, and
that was siphoning naval resources from the Pacific. So come
June of nineteen forty two, the US was rolling a

(23:27):
hard six when it decided to take a stand at
Midway Island. Because of how well it's been portrayed in
some great movies, I think most people are aware the
Navy had cracked the Japanese military codes and knew where
and about when the formidable Combined Fleet headed by the

(23:53):
First Air Fleet, the notorious Keto Bhutai was going to
make a play to snap Midway a toll from the US.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Let's add, yeah, let's leave it right there, because it's
a drumbeat. The epitome of the strength of your story
is just about to start. How everybody sometimes makes a
big mistake. We're going to be right back, We're going
to take a short break, and then we're gonna talk
about Midway in the relationship of Hanukkah, hurricanes, perseverance, guts, sheer, determination,

(24:31):
Midway and World War Two. We'll be right back our
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