July 23, 2025 • 24 mins
John Paul Johns was a pirate, an insubordinent, and a brilliant naval officer. He stole the tea service from a British Earl and his wife. These schnanigans marked Jones' prowess as forefront in naval tactics. He showed England she could be had - and on its own shores.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And welcome back on our Veterans Voice Radio show and
Ralph Nathan Oko and.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I want to remind everybody you know on June twenty first,
if you remember we did uh Cindy and I've recorded
and it aired on June twenty first. I think one
of the absolute best shows that Cindy and I've ever
recorded with our Veterans Voice Radio and that was the
(00:34):
US Flag. And just to give you an idea, UH,
I paid and had every great media make me ten
thumb drives, those little things that you stick in your
computer and they are a show like a like a
DVDOS or whatever else would be. So that's what we
will air next week because we've had such good feedback.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, we play Guess and what.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We are going to do where anybody who's involved out
there with the any educational facility or any nonprofit that
you would like to, we will give you a free
thumb drive, free of charge and free of copyright or
whatever for you to share with your nonprofit audience or
(01:23):
in the school district or whatever. In order to enhance
the patriotism and the respect that we are Veterans Voice
Radio and Cyndy and I have for the American flag.
So how about this seventeen seventy eight, so right after
(01:43):
the war, well, the war was still really going on. Yeah, true, Yeah,
In fact, when did when did the Civil Revolutionary War?
And what year about do you remember?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well, officially, seventeen eighty one is when it effectively came
to and but seventeen eighty three is when the peace
treaty was signed.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, So seventeen seventy eight were at the peak. And
I do agree, by the way, that we needed an
official navy because you know, it's one thing to defend
your land from within, but you're not defending it from without,
in other words, the attack from the outside coming in.
The navy. We didn't have an air force yet, they
didn't build the planes and the helicopters that da Vinci
(02:32):
had sketching the fifteen hundreds, so we had no air force.
So the navy, it was the only thing in the Marines,
would be the only things that would protect us our
soil and our borders from the outside coming in. So
seventeen seventy what where are we at.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, I was starting to talk about the Battle of
Planborough Head, but we'll come back to that time. Permitting
let's step back to seventeen seventy eight and white Haven, England,
which was kind of an out of the way fort
but it was still pretty important. I think it was
the large second largest port for tobacco import so I
(03:15):
don't know where it would have ranked in other things,
but it was not an insignificant part. Now, whether Jones
was guided by anger, genius or full heartiness, white Haven
was a promising price. There were going to be hundreds
of merchant ships anchored close together in its bay with
(03:37):
a relatively soft guard split between two fortifications, and.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
They're all built with wood, correct, and a single fire
could conceivably spread fast and take out a lot of
Britain's merchant fleet in one fell swooped.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, that'd be a whole lot easier, though less profitable
than picking off ships one by one on the high Sea,
and the economic effects on England would have been extremely high.
So Jones loaded up thirty to forty crewmen in two boats.
You get different censuses depending on which historian you're looking at,
(04:18):
but everybody agrees one boat headed towards the northern fortification
guarding the fort, the other two a southern one. They
were going to do a coordinated assault on the fortifications,
set fire to the ships, and sciatl out of there.
Easy psy right, Yeah. Jones's boat reached its assigned fort
(04:43):
and made short work of the soldiers there because they
were all asleep and surrendered without a fate. They didn't
expect this. The Americans sabotaged the cannons to ensure a
safe escape and realized that they're lampfires had gone out,
so some of the men went to a nearby house
(05:04):
and borrowed a light. From there. The courageous fires fighters
made their way to the Thompson, subdued the skeleton crew,
and set the ship ablaze. The raiders did not wait
for the wind to do the trick. They grabbed pieces
of the Thompson that were burning and threw them onto
(05:26):
other British ships. Thus the Great American Victory went well.
It actually went poorly turned out. Jones's vision of hundreds
of burning merchant ships would remain in his imagination. White
Haveners got words of the raid and rushed to save
(05:48):
their ships, and they were able to put out the
Thompson's fire and others never really sparked, So folks are
probably wondering wasn't there a second rating part. Yes, there
was the other raiding party, the one that was supposed
to capture the other Fortons set ships ablaze. Its crew
(06:10):
found themselves a pub, made a few sailors memories, and
headed back to the ranger. It's probably a wonder they
founded in their stupor. Now, in fairness to those men,
their explanation was that townspeople had spotted them, so they
needed to stay at the pub to ensure that nobody
(06:31):
raised alarms. And that is a plausible explanation. But things
did not go as well as Jones had hoped, so
in a gallant effort to recover the raised losses. Remember
this is this is his old stopping ground. Yea henos
for everything and everybody is, Jones headed to the nearby
(06:53):
Scotland right across the bay with an infronttuo plan to
kidnap the Earl of self Kirk to trade him for
American prisoners. Later on, the Earl wasn't home, but the
earl iss was. Cue the love music. Jones took part
(07:16):
of the Earl's silver teeth set, called it a victory,
and headed back to sea. Jones later returned the tea
set to the Earls, which he was quite possibly doing
for reasons other than to alleviate guilt and to restore honor.
(07:40):
He was probably putting the make on her. Yes, y
jess raided on Whitehaven might seem comical, but it was
very effective militarily. It was the first amphibious assault on
England in eighty nine years, and taking a token prize
(08:04):
of war from the Earl of Selkirk was a brilliant
psyop because it said nobles weren't out of or immune
to the American reach.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And plus he was the homeboy that did.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It, and.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
The it was a brilliant psyop. I'll get into that
in a moment. Jones, of course went on to have
other celebrated battles and victories in the War of Independence,
including the defeat and capture of the HMS Drake on
the Irish Sea the day after the Whitehaven fiasco. Okay,
(08:53):
and that was the first time the Continental Navy captured
a British warship.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
A big deal.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
In a couple of days, Jones proved that the British
Navy couldn't be everywhere, not even along its own coast.
He proved England could be invaded, which by the way,
the French and Dutch were noticing, and the upstart American
Navy could take British warships. That scared the insert expletive
(09:27):
out of the British and they invested heavily in coastal defenses,
which was military investments of golden men that did not
contribute to the fighting in the colonies. And you know,
you have to keep in mind too, his he didn't
(09:48):
just encounter the Drake, so he raided. He raids Whitehaven.
So now he knows that alarms are going to be
raised throughout of British isles. We got to go get
this pirate right. So he knows that the British Navy
is going to be looking for him. So instead of
(10:10):
running like somebody with good sense, he hunted for the
HMS Drake if not my name. He specifically wanted a
British warship that he could go attack instead of running. Now,
(10:30):
despite his obvious value as a naval officer, Jones never
lost his abrasive nature and so he lost one command
after another, and after getting relegated to an insultingly menial job,
he joined the Russian Navy. Exactly nine years after the
raid on Whitehaven.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Let me ask you a question, how did how did
the Continental Congress be whether they eventually became aware of
all this, how did they view other than his tactic,
you know, the dumbass moves, But as a naval officer,
how did they view uh this entire uh was it?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh, what's the name of it? West Saven? What was it?
White Haven? And then the drake? How did they? How
did they perceive him?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
This credit?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Credit was due for the good stuff that he achieved.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
You know, while while people in Jones's chain of command
and he was ranked eighteenth and in level of rank
in the in the Continental Navy, which is insultingly low,
others with far less competence were ranked ahead of him,
mostly because of who they were. You know, they were
(11:53):
high born and he was low born, which was something
he deeply presented. Now, the Continental the Continental Congress at
the time really did not show the appreciation that they
should have. But the Congress of the Confederation, the one
that served from seventeen eighty one to seventeen eighty nine,
(12:15):
it awarded Jones a belated Continental Congress Gold Medal in
seventeen eighty seven for that and other astonishing victory. Okay,
there were only seven recipients of that medal. All of
the others, including George Washington, were generals, So Jones was
the only Navy officer and the lowest and military rank
(12:40):
of all the recipients of the Congressional Gold Medal.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, because he opened that door that say listen, we
can get you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, you're not unattainable the British.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
To the British, he did. And I know this story
is going to be broken up by the break, but
let's roll back to the Battle of Lamborough Head in
seventeen seventy nine, so a year.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
After the White can this is your break time.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Okay, let's put breag time.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
We'll be right to everybody. This is the third break,
the last break. And this is Paul Uh. We have
another John Paul Jones on our hand. Yeah, Patty, you said,
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
You everybody out there. I hope you're enjoying.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
This.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
This is a specialist show we've been working on for
a long time because we wanted to take something serious.
And you have to understand Cindy and I was just
talking about Patty. You know, you're talking about seventeen eighties
with just a baby, brand new baby country. And here,
instead of worrying about how to protect our land, our
(15:36):
shore and our invasion and the British inn on the land,
Indi United and the American land, here comes up brazen
literally nonconformist who decides, you know what, instead of being
attacked in the United States in America, let's go attack
(15:57):
them on their shores. Stick the fingers up there and
show them that they're vulnerable. And now they're going to
have to divert resources and men and money from the
Revolutionary War and attacking the Americans in America by protecting
their own soil. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah, it really was brilliant.
(16:17):
And I would love to know Ben Franklin knew some
of this and kept it to himself because Franklin was
a nonconformist but politically correct doing it most of the time.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
John Paul Jones and Ben Franklin were actually good friends.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And one thing that's missed on the modern American audience.
We would think that the War of Independence was as
big a deal in England as it as it is
to us in America. It was not. Britain was a
world empire. War offence was and so it really brought
(16:59):
the war to public attention in Britain and started turning
public opinion against the war. And John Paul Jones, much
to the pleasure of his chain of command, stayed for
a couple of years in and around the British Isles
(17:21):
doing operations. The French gave him a ship that was
dubbed the USS on the Home Richard which means poor Richard,
which was a nod to Benjamin Franklin. It was not
exactly the best ship that the French could have given us,
but you know, they gave us a ship. And one
(17:45):
day in September of seventeen seventy nine, John Paul Jones
is an acting admiral. He's got a couple of ships
under his command. But they come up on a British
warship called the HMS Therapists. And this was kind of
(18:05):
like bringing a destroyer up against a battleship. The Therapist
had it all over the Bonham Richard. Okay, the Bonham
Richard did not stand a chance against the Therapists. And
so of course John Paul Jones said failed straight at
that ship. Because one of Jones's bit's brilliance was making
(18:34):
really good use of the marines aboard his ships. They
were the sharpshooters, right, and so he would have his
sharpshooters acting as maritime snipers with the orders of any
British officer on that ship that raises his head to
(18:55):
give orders death shooting, okay, and that would keep the
that would keep the officers in hiding and really hard
for them to give orders when they're hiding from the
from the snipers. But anyhow, Jones makes a straight run
(19:16):
for a vastly superior ship and grapples it, and that
that mitigated the advantages that the Therapist had because now
you know, it could take a couple of cannon shots.
But after that, like they weren't going to do any
more good. So it was all hand to hand, deck
(19:39):
to deck fighting. And at one point the Bonham Richard
was was sinking and the flag had been shot off
of the ship, and the British captain Pearson he hollers
to Jones, you know, are are you you know, striking
your flag or are you surrendering? And and Jones basically said, no,
(20:03):
forget that, I'm taking your chef. And that's what he did.
That's what he did. He took the HMS Therapist out
from underneath the crew of the HMS Therapist and then
he failed it to the Netherlands, to the Dutch United Colonies,
and at first the Dutch were not going to let
(20:28):
him fort the HMS Therapist there because the British considered
Jones a pirate.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
A minute and a half.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
They considered him a pirate. So look up the John
Paul Jones flag and read the story because you will
laugh your kale off.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I encourage everybody to go to Google, to Wikipedia and
read the entire story about John Paul Jones. He may
have had a pirical hoonas on it, but I got
to tell you the man was militarily brilliant. Ye think
that the precedent that he created on behalf of the
American Navy and the American government wasn't recognized for the
(21:11):
posture of the kudos he deserved. So Patty, you are terrific.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, it was excellent.
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If I had an oscar, I'd give it to you.
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thank you for turning this into such a pleasant fact
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
I want to remind everybody you know on June twenty first,
if you remember we did uh Cindy and I've recorded
and it aired on June twenty first. I think one
of the absolute best shows that Cindy and I've ever
recorded with our Veterans Voice Radio and that was the
(00:34):
US Flag. And just to give you an idea, UH,
I paid and had every great media make me ten
thumb drives, those little things that you stick in your
computer and they are a show like a like a
DVDOS or whatever else would be. So that's what we
will air next week because we've had such good feedback.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, we play Guess and what.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We are going to do where anybody who's involved out
there with the any educational facility or any nonprofit that
you would like to, we will give you a free
thumb drive, free of charge and free of copyright or
whatever for you to share with your nonprofit audience or
(01:23):
in the school district or whatever. In order to enhance
the patriotism and the respect that we are Veterans Voice
Radio and Cyndy and I have for the American flag.
So how about this seventeen seventy eight, so right after
(01:43):
the war, well, the war was still really going on. Yeah, true, Yeah,
In fact, when did when did the Civil Revolutionary War?
And what year about do you remember?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well, officially, seventeen eighty one is when it effectively came
to and but seventeen eighty three is when the peace
treaty was signed.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, So seventeen seventy eight were at the peak. And
I do agree, by the way, that we needed an
official navy because you know, it's one thing to defend
your land from within, but you're not defending it from without,
in other words, the attack from the outside coming in.
The navy. We didn't have an air force yet, they
didn't build the planes and the helicopters that da Vinci
(02:32):
had sketching the fifteen hundreds, so we had no air force.
So the navy, it was the only thing in the Marines,
would be the only things that would protect us our
soil and our borders from the outside coming in. So
seventeen seventy what where are we at.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, I was starting to talk about the Battle of
Planborough Head, but we'll come back to that time. Permitting
let's step back to seventeen seventy eight and white Haven, England,
which was kind of an out of the way fort
but it was still pretty important. I think it was
the large second largest port for tobacco import so I
(03:15):
don't know where it would have ranked in other things,
but it was not an insignificant part. Now, whether Jones
was guided by anger, genius or full heartiness, white Haven
was a promising price. There were going to be hundreds
of merchant ships anchored close together in its bay with
(03:37):
a relatively soft guard split between two fortifications, and.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
They're all built with wood, correct, and a single fire
could conceivably spread fast and take out a lot of
Britain's merchant fleet in one fell swooped.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, that'd be a whole lot easier, though less profitable
than picking off ships one by one on the high Sea,
and the economic effects on England would have been extremely high.
So Jones loaded up thirty to forty crewmen in two boats.
You get different censuses depending on which historian you're looking at,
(04:18):
but everybody agrees one boat headed towards the northern fortification
guarding the fort, the other two a southern one. They
were going to do a coordinated assault on the fortifications,
set fire to the ships, and sciatl out of there.
Easy psy right, Yeah. Jones's boat reached its assigned fort
(04:43):
and made short work of the soldiers there because they
were all asleep and surrendered without a fate. They didn't
expect this. The Americans sabotaged the cannons to ensure a
safe escape and realized that they're lampfires had gone out,
so some of the men went to a nearby house
(05:04):
and borrowed a light. From there. The courageous fires fighters
made their way to the Thompson, subdued the skeleton crew,
and set the ship ablaze. The raiders did not wait
for the wind to do the trick. They grabbed pieces
of the Thompson that were burning and threw them onto
(05:26):
other British ships. Thus the Great American Victory went well.
It actually went poorly turned out. Jones's vision of hundreds
of burning merchant ships would remain in his imagination. White
Haveners got words of the raid and rushed to save
(05:48):
their ships, and they were able to put out the
Thompson's fire and others never really sparked, So folks are
probably wondering wasn't there a second rating part. Yes, there
was the other raiding party, the one that was supposed
to capture the other Fortons set ships ablaze. Its crew
(06:10):
found themselves a pub, made a few sailors memories, and
headed back to the ranger. It's probably a wonder they
founded in their stupor. Now, in fairness to those men,
their explanation was that townspeople had spotted them, so they
needed to stay at the pub to ensure that nobody
(06:31):
raised alarms. And that is a plausible explanation. But things
did not go as well as Jones had hoped, so
in a gallant effort to recover the raised losses. Remember
this is this is his old stopping ground. Yea henos
for everything and everybody is, Jones headed to the nearby
(06:53):
Scotland right across the bay with an infronttuo plan to
kidnap the Earl of self Kirk to trade him for
American prisoners. Later on, the Earl wasn't home, but the
earl iss was. Cue the love music. Jones took part
(07:16):
of the Earl's silver teeth set, called it a victory,
and headed back to sea. Jones later returned the tea
set to the Earls, which he was quite possibly doing
for reasons other than to alleviate guilt and to restore honor.
(07:40):
He was probably putting the make on her. Yes, y
jess raided on Whitehaven might seem comical, but it was
very effective militarily. It was the first amphibious assault on
England in eighty nine years, and taking a token prize
(08:04):
of war from the Earl of Selkirk was a brilliant
psyop because it said nobles weren't out of or immune
to the American reach.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And plus he was the homeboy that did.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It, and.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
The it was a brilliant psyop. I'll get into that
in a moment. Jones, of course went on to have
other celebrated battles and victories in the War of Independence,
including the defeat and capture of the HMS Drake on
the Irish Sea the day after the Whitehaven fiasco. Okay,
(08:53):
and that was the first time the Continental Navy captured
a British warship.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
A big deal.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
In a couple of days, Jones proved that the British
Navy couldn't be everywhere, not even along its own coast.
He proved England could be invaded, which by the way,
the French and Dutch were noticing, and the upstart American
Navy could take British warships. That scared the insert expletive
(09:27):
out of the British and they invested heavily in coastal defenses,
which was military investments of golden men that did not
contribute to the fighting in the colonies. And you know,
you have to keep in mind too, his he didn't
(09:48):
just encounter the Drake, so he raided. He raids Whitehaven.
So now he knows that alarms are going to be
raised throughout of British isles. We got to go get
this pirate right. So he knows that the British Navy
is going to be looking for him. So instead of
(10:10):
running like somebody with good sense, he hunted for the
HMS Drake if not my name. He specifically wanted a
British warship that he could go attack instead of running. Now,
(10:30):
despite his obvious value as a naval officer, Jones never
lost his abrasive nature and so he lost one command
after another, and after getting relegated to an insultingly menial job,
he joined the Russian Navy. Exactly nine years after the
raid on Whitehaven.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Let me ask you a question, how did how did
the Continental Congress be whether they eventually became aware of
all this, how did they view other than his tactic,
you know, the dumbass moves, But as a naval officer,
how did they view uh this entire uh was it?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh, what's the name of it? West Saven? What was it?
White Haven? And then the drake? How did they? How
did they perceive him?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
This credit?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Credit was due for the good stuff that he achieved.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
You know, while while people in Jones's chain of command
and he was ranked eighteenth and in level of rank
in the in the Continental Navy, which is insultingly low,
others with far less competence were ranked ahead of him,
mostly because of who they were. You know, they were
(11:53):
high born and he was low born, which was something
he deeply presented. Now, the Continental the Continental Congress at
the time really did not show the appreciation that they
should have. But the Congress of the Confederation, the one
that served from seventeen eighty one to seventeen eighty nine,
(12:15):
it awarded Jones a belated Continental Congress Gold Medal in
seventeen eighty seven for that and other astonishing victory. Okay,
there were only seven recipients of that medal. All of
the others, including George Washington, were generals, So Jones was
the only Navy officer and the lowest and military rank
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of all the recipients of the Congressional Gold Medal.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, because he opened that door that say listen, we
can get you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, you're not unattainable the British.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
To the British, he did. And I know this story
is going to be broken up by the break, but
let's roll back to the Battle of Lamborough Head in
seventeen seventy nine, so a year.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
After the White can this is your break time.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Okay, let's put breag time.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
We'll be right to everybody. This is the third break,
the last break. And this is Paul Uh. We have
another John Paul Jones on our hand. Yeah, Patty, you said,
does rebel and do things zero way? And you know what,
you're doing a great job today. I really I'm enjoying
all this. We'll be writing back everybody. This is Veterans
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
You everybody out there. I hope you're enjoying.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
This.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
This is a specialist show we've been working on for
a long time because we wanted to take something serious.
And you have to understand Cindy and I was just
talking about Patty. You know, you're talking about seventeen eighties
with just a baby, brand new baby country. And here,
instead of worrying about how to protect our land, our
(15:36):
shore and our invasion and the British inn on the land,
Indi United and the American land, here comes up brazen
literally nonconformist who decides, you know what, instead of being
attacked in the United States in America, let's go attack
(15:57):
them on their shores. Stick the fingers up there and
show them that they're vulnerable. And now they're going to
have to divert resources and men and money from the
Revolutionary War and attacking the Americans in America by protecting
their own soil. Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah, it really was brilliant.
(16:17):
And I would love to know Ben Franklin knew some
of this and kept it to himself because Franklin was
a nonconformist but politically correct doing it most of the time.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
John Paul Jones and Ben Franklin were actually good friends.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And one thing that's missed on the modern American audience.
We would think that the War of Independence was as
big a deal in England as it as it is
to us in America. It was not. Britain was a
world empire. War offence was and so it really brought
(16:59):
the war to public attention in Britain and started turning
public opinion against the war. And John Paul Jones, much
to the pleasure of his chain of command, stayed for
a couple of years in and around the British Isles
(17:21):
doing operations. The French gave him a ship that was
dubbed the USS on the Home Richard which means poor Richard,
which was a nod to Benjamin Franklin. It was not
exactly the best ship that the French could have given us,
but you know, they gave us a ship. And one
(17:45):
day in September of seventeen seventy nine, John Paul Jones
is an acting admiral. He's got a couple of ships
under his command. But they come up on a British
warship called the HMS Therapists. And this was kind of
(18:05):
like bringing a destroyer up against a battleship. The Therapist
had it all over the Bonham Richard. Okay, the Bonham
Richard did not stand a chance against the Therapists. And
so of course John Paul Jones said failed straight at
that ship. Because one of Jones's bit's brilliance was making
(18:34):
really good use of the marines aboard his ships. They
were the sharpshooters, right, and so he would have his
sharpshooters acting as maritime snipers with the orders of any
British officer on that ship that raises his head to
(18:55):
give orders death shooting, okay, and that would keep the
that would keep the officers in hiding and really hard
for them to give orders when they're hiding from the
from the snipers. But anyhow, Jones makes a straight run
(19:16):
for a vastly superior ship and grapples it, and that
that mitigated the advantages that the Therapist had because now
you know, it could take a couple of cannon shots.
But after that, like they weren't going to do any
more good. So it was all hand to hand, deck
(19:39):
to deck fighting. And at one point the Bonham Richard
was was sinking and the flag had been shot off
of the ship, and the British captain Pearson he hollers
to Jones, you know, are are you you know, striking
your flag or are you surrendering? And and Jones basically said, no,
(20:03):
forget that, I'm taking your chef. And that's what he did.
That's what he did. He took the HMS Therapist out
from underneath the crew of the HMS Therapist and then
he failed it to the Netherlands, to the Dutch United Colonies,
and at first the Dutch were not going to let
(20:28):
him fort the HMS Therapist there because the British considered
Jones a pirate.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
A minute and a half.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
They considered him a pirate. So look up the John
Paul Jones flag and read the story because you will
laugh your kale off.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I encourage everybody to go to Google, to Wikipedia and
read the entire story about John Paul Jones. He may
have had a pirical hoonas on it, but I got
to tell you the man was militarily brilliant. Ye think
that the precedent that he created on behalf of the
American Navy and the American government wasn't recognized for the
(21:11):
posture of the kudos he deserved. So Patty, you are terrific.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, it was excellent.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You have become a Nazi subf reporter. You're now a storyteller. Congratulations.
If I had an oscar, I'd give it to you.
So thank you with Patty, I've really enjoyed this. I
thank you for turning this into such a pleasant fact
of history. And everybody, I want to thank the High
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Women Art Gallery at eighteen seventy two Commerce Avenue in
Vero Beach. They were open seven days a week, daylight hours,
usually by appointment, and every Saturday you were open from
ten to three. Hundreds of high women paintings, hundreds of
second generation legacy and landscape artists. Bring your money, bring
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your credit cards, bring your checks. I'm making fun, but
make sure you when you get there, you got eleven
hundred square feet to look at a lot of artwork.
So take your time, plan ahead, and there are plenty
of restaurants around, so when you get through you'll be hungry.
So thank you literally to the High Women Art Gallery,
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and please give us a call at ninety five four
five five seven six two two six for your appointment,
ask for Ralph and at this point, thank you. Thank you.
All of you are friends for sharing our veterans' voice
on the air.
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Walter Lee Harky, the Third Air Force.
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Donald Paul Sukanski Army.
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Norman William Hensick, Junior Army, National.
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Guard, Doctor Wayne Phillips, Army.
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William Bill Francis Bolt Air Force.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Chester A. Chet Hall First.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Responder, Doctor David Kramer, Army.
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Captain Richard E. Hastrand, First Responder, Walter G.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
O'Leary, Army, Korea.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Dwayne Martin Weiss's Army, World War.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Two, John W.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Propst Army and First Responder Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And to all of our other fallen heroes, our brothers
and sisters, especially in view of today's show, thank you
for your service. Thank you for protecting the American flag.
Thank you for protecting America. Thank you for protecting the world,
and thank you for the immediate Families of our fallen
(24:05):
heroes would proudly salute all of you, and from the
bottom of our heart, we wish you the best, rest
in peace forever
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