July 14, 2025 • 60 mins
FEATURING: Bill&Jordon, Charlize Theron, Aaron Rodgers and much more. In this #papisode we take a deep dive into the state of the photography business and how to make it profitable again. Jedi heads back to his favorite place to picture his favorite people. Mark is back on The Rookie set and chickens out on speaking to one of his heros and we discuss why Charlize should just stick to acting. Plus much more. For the content in this papisode please visit our socials @paparazzipodcast. Thank you for listening and sharing. Be Well!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Paparazzi Podcast. I am Jedi, he
is Mark, and we are back for another funfilled frolic
into the world of paparazzi and newsman photography.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
There has been a lot of frolicking since the last podcast,
so we're going to get through as much as we
can in this hour, and then maybe we're probably going
to have to do another one to cram the rest
of what we want to talk about in the second one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, there's been a ton of shit's been going on,
weddings and all sorts of shenanigums.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But most importantly, to be honest, straight off the bat, Jedi.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Straight off, I know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The Rookie is back in production.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shout out to our Rookie followers, our Rookie fans out
there who have been waiting patiently for season eight to
start production. It started today with a bang, a triple
set production.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
See I didn't notice you going live on Instagram? Are
you going to be back doing that for Season eight?
And the Rookie giving the fans what they want?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, given the opportunity. See what happened today was
I checked everything the main cast, which was Eric Winter
and a few others that I will be posting in
their street clothes. By the way, they got to set
(01:39):
late and all I could do was do a little
bit of drone of the production, and then my daughter
needed me, so I had to leave. But they're going
back tomorrow, so hopefully i'll have a little bit more tomorrow,
maybe a live tomorrow. I can only do live when
I can walk up and start, you know, doing a live.
If you can't see anything, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, you think they recognize you now on set? They
must do, right, You've been there a ton of times.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well during the hiatus, I think they all kind of forget,
you know. But when I show up, maybe I'll be
able to do it. I was thinking Jedi of getting
some of those meta glasses.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, that would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Using those to go onto these sets instead of having
to put the phone in my pocket stuff like that,
just actually just walk around with the glasses on. I
think that's a good you go.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Can you go live from them?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I don't know, can you?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If you can't go live, then fuck that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You must be able to write, because it's it's the
Facebook shit, right, It's Facebook, Instagram, Zuckerberg stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. I mean I think you just connected to your
phone and it becomes like the camera somehow, and I
think you can probably go live with that camera. I
would hope. So if I can't, and if that doesn't work,
then you know, some of these tech giants need to
uh ship.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well that's pretty cool until you forget that you're live
and you go take a pit.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well that'll make it a better live, right, I would
definitely need well, those cameras are wide. I would definitely
need a more telephoto lens. So rookies back everybody and
stay tuned for more on the shooting of season Ocho, have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You watched any of the Rookie? You don't watch it? Right?
Those it is oo Ocho Sinko e eighty Sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Have I watched any of the the Rookie? I have.
I've kind of bounced around a little bit. I watched
maybe three quarters of season one, and then I've just
it's been just been popping up here and there, and
when I see it, I'll watch it for about ten
to fifteen minutes. I don't think as someone who's not
you know, completely invested that. I don't think you need
(03:58):
to really follow the whole thing. You can kind of
bounce around and just enjoy it as they do. And
I just like to watch stuff that I've shot, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I see if it's something that I shot, I watched
the whole episode, and if it's not a turn off,
that's cool. Before we get into our stories, I wanted
to bring up a subject that I was actually talking
about with another photographer recently, and I kind of wanted
to get your take on it, right because as everybody knows,
(04:32):
or as the listeners know from us, that the business is,
you know, in a weird place right now. It is
hard to make money in this business when it used
to be fairly easy. Outlets are not buying the pictures
that they used to buy. You really have to kind
of dig deep to figure out a story or work
(04:54):
on a story, or get an old person as an
unrecognizable or you have to get a day rate out there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, it's going through It's been going through this weird
kind of phase for a while now. You know. Back
in the old day, when we were agency photographers, the
key was to get as many sets of as many
people as you can during the day, because any set
of anybody back then would sell. You know, you could
position yourself on any street in Beverly Hills or other
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grow and shoot three, four or five six sets a
day of anybody and make money on all of them.
But now you know, the outlets are not just buying
a random set of anybody. There has to be, like
you say, a story relating to that person, or it
(05:47):
has to be somebody that hasn't been seen for a
long time, or hey, if so and so is eighty,
now guess who it is. They're unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and they're running out of those. So, I mean,
I saw into Hamilton on a post today and she
looked a little old, but she was not unrecognizable.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, a ton of them unrecognizable. They just look exactly
the same as they are, but with a little more
gray hair.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah. So that's what we were talking about, and you know,
we were trying to kind of kind of reassess the
business and what the difference is. And it came down
to something that I've been talking about four years, Jedi,
which is monetization. We are the only content creators on
the Internet that don't get paid monetized. We don't get
(06:39):
paid by the amount of traffic that our content creates,
right And you know, I was been told I'm crazy,
that there's no way that this would happen, you know,
there's no way it could happen, or something like that,
and we were just going over ways that it could happen,
and we had a lot of ideas. Comes down to,
(07:00):
basically withholding your exclusive pictures and trying to sell them
in a new fashion, in a new format, which is,
you know, selling them at the rate that they're at,
but also putting a twenty four forty eight seventy two
hour monetization on the life of the pictures because the
pictures don't usually live any longer than that, and not
(07:21):
authlorady in bargoes that are that are you know, put
in a position that are that work for the outlets.
But obviously they're getting paid by traffic. Obviously they're getting
paid by monetization.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And it's just so yeah, ads as well, aren't they
That there's ads on you know, people dot Com, the
Daily Mail, you know, New York Post, the Sun, any
of these outlets that we're consuming the news, you know,
via the internet. They're selling ad space on all of those.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Sites exactly, and everything's driven by traffic. It's all driven
by traffic, and the traffic that one picture creates is
obviously different than another what another picture creates, but we
don't get paid much differently for that. Honestly, when it
comes down to the amount that you know is probably
being made behind the pay walls and stuff like that,
that it would probably be shown that we are paid
(08:14):
pretty unfairly. And obviously it would take the unification of
all the agencies to adopt this kind of philosophy on
sales and stuff like that, which won't happen. So it's
going to take somebody to create a new agency that
they'll get exclusives from and stuff that you know they
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can't do without, and to create a new style of
sales for those pictures. And then once it's done, it's done.
And then once it's done, every photographer will give you pictures.
So if anybody's willing to go out there and do that,
join me. We can go do that kind of thing
a second, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, Well, it's just it's so hard as well, though,
isn't it. Because as soon as our pictures go up
on like just say the daily mail. For example, our
pictures go up, they're then ripped off and put on
you know, one hundred different Twitter pages. Or if there's
a video that we share and it goes on the
mail is then ripped off by Twitter. The video and it,
(09:12):
you know, in some instances, could get hundreds of thousands
of views and actually give you know, the Twitter user
who's stolen it and posted it revenue, whereas we're not
getting anything.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, actually, and there's there's really nothing we can do
about that. Obviously, if we have a you know, a
lawyer team on the payroll, we can probably get some
cease and desists done and maybe a few lawsuits like
some of the agencies do. But you know, normally we
can't really do much about that. So the only thing
we can do is change the sales structure of these
(09:47):
pictures to go along with the way money is made
these days on the internet. You know, I mean, we're
we're selling pictures like they were print. We never got
any sales of how many magazines were sold because of
our pictures. You can it track that kind of a thing,
but now everything could be tracked. Everything has data behind it.
They track it themselves. I mean, every picture has you know,
(10:08):
account of shares on it and stuff. I mean, you
could track every single detail that our picture does after
its sales, and it just seems that it's such an
easy thing to create. And it's not like we would
be looking for hundreds of thousands of dollars on top
of this whole thing. It's just not paid fairly for
the life of the picture exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Now. Question we just talked about print, When was the
last time you saw one of your pictures printed actually
in a magazine.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Like, saw it in the magazine?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, or even if you knew of it like being
in a magazine.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Not on my owhnew of it being in a magazine.
I mean I see it on my sales reports.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh okay, so stop it still getting printed because I
mean now I'm doing you know, day rates for well
for the websites. Basically, I don't think I've had a
picture in print in over a year, which which is
nuts because you know, again going back to our agency days,
when we'd shoot all these people day in day out,
(11:12):
it was like every Wednesday or Thursday, we'd go to
a news stand and scour through every magazine and be like, oh,
I've got seven pictures in US Weekly. I've got I've
got six in Touch, I've got two in People, and
i've got one in Life and Style. But now the
news stands even still exist, No, I haven't seen one.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's only a couple of them that are still around.
I mean there's still the one in Beverly Hills, you know,
in Beverly's that I saw the other day. It actually
reminds me. I'll just touched on this real quick of
when I used to go to those magazine stands. And
I've talked about this on the podcast before, but if
a'body knew listening, this is kind of a quick, funny story.
But I was at the news stand one day and
I was just sitting in my car, probably talking on
(11:54):
the phone or something, and we would go there because
celebrities would go up to those.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
News stands, absolutely, and we would wait.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And I remember because I saw an article on him
today posting something about, you know, AI concentration camps or something.
Michael Rappaport, who's a huge political you know guy these days,
kind of a nutcase. I mean, you know, I like
the guy, like his acting stuff like that, but he's
a political kind of nutbag. He I got pictures of
(12:22):
him looking at a booty magazine one time, and it
went everywhere and it was hilarious. You know, aside from
the sales direct sales that agencies can do. You know,
we were also talking about day rates and how you know,
I was bringing up the fact that we're you know,
(12:42):
we're independent contractors, and we were telling stories to each
other about our recent day rates and how quick and
easy some day rates are and how some day rates
are super hard. Specifically, we were talking about Toby and
Toby getting shot in the head and how we just mentioned, oh,
he should have got hazard pay for that job, you know,
(13:03):
like a little extra, a little bonus on the side,
where they said, oh you know what, hey, bro, you
just got shot in the head for us. Here you go,
here's a little bit of bonus or something like that,
and it kind of, you know, the conversation kind of
evolved into, well, geez, maybe we should be like contractors
contracting the rates instead of just taking a day rate
for you know, obviously, if I'm going to go get
(13:25):
someone unrecognizable, some oldie, that'll take me maybe a day
maybe or two. But it's just sitting out in front
of their house and following at the grocery store and
getting them coming out super easy. Toby, on the other hand,
when they say, hey, can you go do the job
of the riots for us and go get into the
riots for us, maybe you know the few hundred that
you're supposed to get could be raked up a little
(13:48):
bit more, you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Know, bumped up a little bit. Yeah, why not? I mean, look,
I've been in the business for twenty years now and
the day rate has not changed from the first day
rate I ever got. It's been the same amount of
money for twenty years, which is absolutely insane, isn't it. Really. Yeah,
(14:11):
everything has gone up apart from the day rate. But
I love the idea of you know, so I want
to pool put in my backyard. I'm going to go
to a bunch of different contractors, get all the different rates,
and I'm going to pick the style of the pool
artists that I like and the best rate. Whereas, you know,
we could all have our little you know, a website
(14:33):
with all the different photographers, their styles, their rates, their
success rate, pictures in the past, and you know, the
magazine or website calls us up and we give quotes
on jobs. I think that idea is great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, and obviously there'll be guys that can undercut you.
Obviously there's guys that can say, oh, well, i'll do
the rate for cheaper, or you know, you could find
people that do the rate for cheaper, but those kind
of those kind of rates you're going to pay. The
guys that are I'll be just gonna sit out and
you know, maybe not even go and do the job
to get a second day rate, or you know, they'll
they'll just lie about what they're doing. You know, it'll
(15:09):
be all about your reputation and about be about your
track record. It'll be about you know, how you know,
how deep you get into these stories and stuff like
that based on reputation. Just like a regular contract or
a construction contractor would you know you're gonna go hire
the best, You're not if you want to hire the
cheapest finne you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Some cheap ass shit yeah, or nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Or nothing, you know, or they're gonna skip out on
it or something like that. Exactly. So it's not about
outrageous amounts of money. It's not like I'm going to
say instead of you know, four or five hundred dollars
for a day rate. I'm going to charge you three
thousand for the day rate. And I'm not talking about
something like that. I'm just talking about getting paid fairly
for what we're doing. Because times have changed. We're barely
(15:50):
hanging on out there, and everybody else, everybody else's you know,
pay has changed, everybody else's sales and the way they
make money online and stuff has changed. We're still the
same as we were, yeah, in the nineties, two thousand's,
you know.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah. I mean I've had conversations with people in the
last couple of months that, like, shit, we might actually
have to get jobs soon. I love this job so much.
I'm good at it. I don't want to be I
don't want to do anything else, Like I want to
be able to still earn enough to make a living
doing this. But at the moment, I'm going to be
(16:30):
doing this to like die. I'm not going to be
able to retire anytime soon. Are you kidding me? I'm
not going to be able to buy a house anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
If you are changing the format or switching the way
we get paid. Yeah, it's just evolution. It's just the
evolution of the business, and it can make it so
that you can continue to do the job, continue to
do the job kind of admirably, and you'll get paid.
You know, you'll get paid fairly. It's all about being
(17:00):
paid fairly. You know. The photographers have been left behind.
They're treated like slaves, they're treated like they're just photographers.
You know. Obviously we have good relationships with a lot
of the people that hire us and stuff like that.
But in the end, it's about paying bills. You know,
everything's going up. I mean me living in California, need
(17:22):
I say that, right? Yeah, And you know, one job
is not the same as the other job, and the
pay needs to kind of reflect that, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, and also like I don't know if the editors
even think about this, Like we're paying taxes on our
day rates. We're not collecting the full day rate. We're
paying taxes on that day. Right, We're also paying healthcare
on the day. Right, we have no benefits at all.
There's no four oh one ks or you know, if
we were in four o one k again, it'll come
(17:51):
out of the day rate a day rate. Although you know,
if it's however much we're getting, we ain't getting that
amount of money at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Exactly well and Jedi. So the conversation continued, you know,
and obviously when you get two minds, two genius minds
in this business that have been this business for a
long time, you start spitballing even further. And imagine just imagine, okay,
a world where not only can we sell pictures monetized
(18:21):
twenty four forty eight seventy two hours, but imagine getting
a day rate, you know, at the price that it's fair,
but then also on top of that, the pictures that
you get, the video that you get, you get also
paid monetized on top of that twenty four forty eight
seventy two hours. And it's a combination of the day
(18:43):
rate and the life of the picture online, you know
what I.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Mean, sign sign me up exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's very fair, and it gives incentive to the photographers
to go that extra mile and to do that extra
you know, do a little extra that they need to
get that, to just go out of their way, go out,
go out on a limb to get that, you know,
to get the shot video.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah. I mean, for any editors listening to this, I
hope I'm not coming across as ungrateful because I am
very grave for any work I do get, but any
extra money that I could get would be fucking great
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well then I mean, I mean, can we stand by
our work. We're not lazy, you know, stupid photographers that
don't know what we're doing, you know what I mean?
So I said, you get what you get with us.
I feel totally confident talking about this because it's fair.
It is just it's a fair station, and it'll probably
never happen, to be honest, But you know, I'm just
(19:40):
putting it out there because we do have a podcast,
we do have a voice, and I know other photographers
into this, and I know some agency people listen to this,
and you know, maybe somewhere someday someone might stand up for.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Us exactly, and and and just to put it out
there for you know, the kind of value that people
get from from a day. For me, I was up
at four four o'clock this morning for a six am flight.
I took two flights, and I watched my target today,
you know, after being up at four o'clock earlier than
(20:13):
four o'clock whatever I said. And I didn't finish work
till eight o'clock this evening. So that's that's on the
clock for sixteen hours. You know, that's not that's not
your nine to five.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, and if you get down, if you break it
down the hours and the stress of going through you know,
the airports, and the stress of getting here, getting there,
and you know, everything put on top of it. When
you break down the actual numbers and the data, it
comes out to be not exactly a fair rate. You
know what if you get the pictures, you know, if
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you do get the pictures, and everybody, because I mean
when you get pictures and you nail the ship out
of the pictures, your fucking hero, you know. Oh yeah,
so in those hero moments, it would be nice to
not just sit back and get what I would have
made if I didn't even make it, if I didn't
even get the pictures. I mean, just the extra bonus
(21:11):
would be nice. When you know, we'll come in on
those websites, you know what I mean. Yeah, And we're
not ungrateful. We are just the people. See, if we
do offend any of the outlets on this episode, we
do apologize.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, we don't ever mean to be well, sometimes sometimes
we do want to offend you, but not this time.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But switching gears. Stories you've been out.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Stories I have, mate, I've got I got a good one.
It was. It was a funny one. So I was.
I was covering a wedding the same weekend as bezos wedding,
one that obviously was nowhere near as big as exciting,
but it was a good story anyway. I don't know
(21:57):
if you've seen the last couple of days the the
police dash cam video has come out from the Mary
lou Retton arrest. Do you know who she is?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I didn't see the video, but I saw the films, so.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It was hilarious. So Mary Lourettin was a USA gymnast.
I think she was maybe a gold medalist or a
medalist in the eighty four Olympics, I believe Los Angeles Olympics.
She's from West Virginia and I was in West Virginia
a couple of weeks ago trying to trying to track
her down and find her with a reporter, and we
(22:34):
had no joy trying to find her. But we did, however,
find out that her daughter was getting married in Dallas
a couple of weekends ago. And the reporter I was
working with originally on it had been given the run
around by Mary Lou a couple of times basically, and
I wanted to get these pictures so fucking bad, as
(22:57):
like a revenge for not being able to get her
and you know, looking for her all over the fucking place.
So we found the location of the wedding. It was
the Botanical Gardens in Dallas. We managed to figure that
out via Mary Lou's daughters instagrams. A couple of them
were tagging stuff on there. One of them tag a
(23:19):
picture of the actual location. But one week to go,
we're like, okay, this is fucking brilliant. We know exactly
where it is. So the day of the wedding comes, well,
actually the day before the wedding, I managed to get
pictures of them going to like a rehearsal at the
at the venue, just you know, just just to follow
and then some pictures. But it was the first pictures
(23:40):
since Mary Lou's arrest, and like since a year ago
when she ran a go fund me basically because she
had a ton of medical bills from was it leukemia
or or something like that, something to do with the
lungs and she was on like a breathing apparatus. So
I got pictures of her no breathing apparatus looking one
(24:03):
hundred percent fine, so we think, like massive scam. So
the weddings. The next day, I call up the venue
and say, hey, I'm with the so and so party
for the wedding. What time can I start arriving? What
time can I arrive? I'm a guest, and they give
me the time I can arrive. They say, you know,
the wedding's at five thirty. The the the Botanical Gardens
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closed to the public at five, but you can start
arriving at three forty five. So I'm like, great. I
go in a little earlier than that, check it out.
Line up the venue that they posted on Instagram with
the actual venue, which looks different now than you know,
got chairs and fucking an arch and all that shit
(24:48):
all set up. So I'm looking around trying to figure
out is there any angle I can hide? Can I
hide in a bush out here? You know? Partner? The
park closes at five? Can I hide anywhere? And then
there's nowhere that I can hide at all? So I
actually go outside at the venue to try and find
an angle inside because it's quite close to the main road.
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So I go outside I stand up on a bus stop,
have a look, can't quite see over. There's two hedges.
I'd kind of make a hole in the hedge stick
my camera through, and then there's other bushes on the
other side, so there's no view there. There's a tree, Like,
fuck me do I go full Julane Maxwell and climb
(25:32):
a tree to try and shoot this wedding. And I'm
jumping up, jumping up, and I just can't reach. I
just cannot. If I was a foot taller, i'd be
able to nail it. And then times ticking, times ticking,
and it's five point fifteen. The wedding's about to start
in fifteen minutes. On my I'm going to go to
fucking home depot and get a ladder. So I drove
(25:53):
to home depot, which was seven minutes away. I picked
up a step ladder, a five step step ladder, rushed
back to the venue parts it illegally dumps. Stood it
up against the tree, and there's two minutes to the wedding.
Stood it up against the tree, got to the top step,
poked my head through the tree. There's a v in
(26:14):
the tree which I can just stand in perfectly with
my camera and not be seen. Albeit, I am on
a main road and there's a very busy main road
in Dallas, and there's tons of cars going past, and
I'm just stood on this ladder. The music starts playing.
Mary Lou walks down the aisle, you know, with her
(26:37):
ex husband I think it was, and she's a short,
little gymnast, clean pictures of her. I get the bride
walking down the aisle. I get Mary Lou, I get
the bridesmaids, I get the groom, I get the whole
fucking thing. Well, I'm standing on this ladder railing it off,
and I'm like, I'm going to get seen at some point,
and I don't want to be too much of a dick.
I don't want to ruin the wedding. I jump off
the ladder, put the put the ladder back in the cart,
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and go and return it to homekeeper. So I go
and get my money back and just just naeld the
the Jesus out of the pictures. And it was a
revenge set. I'm not going to say I wouldn't have
worked this hard otherwise, but I did put the extra
effort in just to kind of avenge the reporter and
(27:21):
get this this great story in the back.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, sometimes you need that extra motivation and then you
end up nailing it. I find it interesting though, that
you had the angle of them coming down the aisle
because you know, obviously a lot of times during weddings
and stuff, you have the opposite angle of them walking
away from you. But then you might like them up,
you know, on the stage or you know, and you'll
have like a profile or something like that. So it's
(27:44):
good that you've got that angle, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just just straight down the bow. And it's funny. I
was talking to another photographer on my way back from
home depot after I dropped the ladder back off and
just just telling him what I've done, like reveling in
my glory, and he's like, oh, yeah, I've done that
once before as well. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I literally had the ladder for like two hours and
just took it back. I'm like, may I had it
for thirty seven minutes and took it back. They must
have wondered, like, what the fuck I was doing?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Nah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's all good, yeah, but it was. It was. It
was a really fun one to work, not super hope
high profile. But you know, whenever you end up nailing something,
and it actually got a really good showing online as well.
It was you know, it was a real feel good
story for me. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, I've actually shot a couple of botanical gardens myself,
and as you were telling the story, I was kind
of relating to it. So they closed it off to
the public for the public to come in. Now, if
there was public already in the botanical gardens, would they
be able to be in the potential? They kicked everybody out.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
They kicked everybody out. Okay, yeah, everybody out.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Because the couple of times I've done that, they've closed
off the potanical gardens, but the people that were already
in could kind of remain and you know, well at
least like I did, you know when they would close.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Can you remember who you shot in the botanical gardens before?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, it's always been a production.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Okay, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh yeah, it was Katherine McPhee once that was in
that Scorpion show and then also Mandy Moore in uh
This is Us got her and it was Yeah, it
was one of those where they kind of closed it off,
but then people are still kind of in there, and
I would because it's the potanical gardens as bushes everywhere.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, I just went and kind of lined up where
I knew they were going to shoot, and I just
kind of just hid in a bush, you know. And
then when the scene happened, it's like okay, I and
then I nailed it. And then I just got up
and left in front of everybody, just popped out of
the bush, Like, where the fuck did that guy come from?
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, I remember years ago in La as well, Katie
Perry filmed I think it was.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Raw at the the ab how'd you say, Abati Arboreta
something like that, in the one named near Santa Santa Anita.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, she shot that video there and I was like
tasked with trying to get pictures in that place, but
I could. I never actually found it, found the stet.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right, Well, it looks like we're nearing break time here.
When we took a quick break and we'll be back
with you got some more stories.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I've got one more story.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Sweet, all right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Welcome back. I hope everybody had a refreshment for that break.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I cut my toenails I would think most people are
listening in their car, so that's.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Where that's where I listened to my podcasts.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Don't drink and drive. That's the message from the PBC.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What else have I been doing. I got one more
little story. I was in one of my favorite places
in the country. I guess you can have a guess.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Martha's Vinnam. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Nantucket, Nantucket. Yeah, I ended up back on Nantucket. It
was supposed to be for the fourth of July weekend,
but I got two sets in the two days prior
to fourth of July, so they sent me home early,
which I was kind of upset about because the whole
point of being there was for the Fourth of July parade,
(31:28):
which was where I got Bill Belichick and his much
younger squeeze Jordan Hudson last year. Probably the best set
that's been got of them was the one I got
last year on the fourth of July. Yeah, but anyway,
on the second of July, it wasn't a fantastic scept
to be honest. They just they went into town and
picked up another car. But it was, you know, pictures
(31:50):
of a pair of them together. And then the next
day I actually got them going to the airport and
flying out of Nantucket, but they were due to fly
back actually the first time, the second I was there
and got the pictures. Yeah, I got them flying out
getting on a private jet. Again like great pictures. It
was like they were walking down a catwalk towards me,
(32:11):
basically cleaning down the barrel. But yeah, they got on
a private jet and actually flew to Saratoga, New York,
where I managed I told the desk where they were
heading after I got the tail number, and they managed
to get a photographer to actually get to the airport
in Saratoga and get them getting off a plane there
as well, nice, which was really cool. So we kind
(32:34):
of a kind of a double set. But then then
after that I got I got asked to leave because
you know, they were no longer there, which I was
upset about because I actually figured out that they were
coming back the next day, and I found the plane
they were coming back on the next day, and I
was already boarded my plane literally five minutes before they landed.
So I was absolutely gutted about that because I would
(32:55):
have loved to have got one more set of them
and done the fourth of July Shenanigans. But whatever. Hopefully
I'll end up back on the island another time, another
time this year, sometimes soon. Hopefully I was there. I
think I think I did seven trips there last year,
so hopefully there'll be a few more to come this year.
(33:17):
We'll see. It's still very early.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, you're becoming kind of a regular on Nantucket. I mean,
people probably know you a little bit. And there's really
I mean, there's not many better places to be for
Fourth of July than Nantucket.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta say, mate, it's stunning. Actually a funny story
trying to get to Nantucket. So I go. It was
two flights to me from Buffalo, one two. Actually I
didn't even come from Buffalo. I went straight from Texas,
where I'd finished the Mary Lou story. So I flew
Dallas to Boston, and it was going to be Boston
(33:50):
to Nantucket. But as I was up in the air
in Boston, it was on a it was you know
the little cessna's they hold like eight people. We're on
one of those from Boston to Nantucket. And the fog
set in about it's about a forty five minute flight
and the fog set in about forty minutes into the flight,
(34:11):
so we circled it must have been like a dozen
times and then actually couldn't land on the island, so
we had to It was either go back to Boston
and start again, or go to an airport like a
fifteen minute flight away from from Nantucket called Hyenas, which
(34:34):
from there you can actually take an uber down to
the ferry port and then get an hour long ferry.
So that's why I ended up doing. I ended up,
you know, making friends with everybody on the flight. We
shared two ubers down to the down to the harbor,
and then we spent the next hour on the boat
kind of drinking beers. And you know, they were all
(34:54):
locals apart from one of a girl there, a young
college student who was my d one volleyball player at
some fancy school, and then another kid who played hockey
another fancy school, and then some kind of some women
a little older than me who had houses on them Tucket.
So I got talking to them about you know, who
(35:17):
I am, what I do, and they were absolutely fascinated
by me, just like kind of sneaking onto the island
and infiltrating you know, Belichick and Jordan. They loved it,
So it was really fun to actually talk to people
who appreciated it and didn't just think I was a scumbag.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Did you tell them to listen to the podcast?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know what? I actually didn't. I really should have that.
I completely forgot. I was just so caught up in
my storytelling where we tell stories.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If you're fascinated about that love Lovely, then you would
love the podcast. Mate.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, that's a that's a grimsy on my part. Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Well, and I'm gonna speak for the listeners Jedi that
there's numerous times that you tell these stories about what
you're doing, and there are so many opportunities to give
little hints and do little teeny pictures, little teeny videos.
You don't have to reveal anything, just little mysteries, little
little you know, teasers and stuff that are so there's
(36:26):
so many opportunities you have to tease.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I'm terrible and uh.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, with control of the Instagram, you know, as
I do. You know, everybody's my rookie lives. I'm kidding,
they're not.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I need to up my social game.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You need to up your social game, you know. And
like I said, I'm speaking for the listeners. So if
the listeners want to tell Jedi go on to our
DM tell him what you think, okay, because please do.
It would have been cool to see like a beer
at the at the bar, and then it would have
been cool to see the fog below you. Where am
(37:03):
I going now? Type of thing, you know would.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Be it would be great next time. So I will
up my game.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Is it my turn?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
It is your son? Tell some stories.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, I've been kind of busy. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers,
as everybody knows, is my old hero. He was my quarterback.
I'm a Packer fan for those who didn't know. And
any chance I get to work on Aaron Rodgers, I
will do. I've probably talked about it a little bit
on the podcast, but there was another job. You know.
(37:38):
Obviously we're tasked to getting the wife. Everybody wants to
know about the wife, okay, So going up to work
on Aaron Rodgers is is kind of a chore. I
think we've mentioned that on the podcast that going up
there's kind of a pain in the ass. He lives
in North North North Malibu. I went up there one
(37:58):
day just kind of random. Every once in a while,
I just, you know, feel ambitious to get up there,
and he came out did the same thing that he
always does, is go to the gym. You know, we're waiting.
We're waiting to see this wife of his. I'll drone
a little bit. I'll kind of look to see down
on the beach. There's actually a a lounge chair set
(38:22):
up in a bush that looks over his beach that somebody,
another pap put in there to just sit and wait
for him with. And if you look at the lounge
chair around it a bunch of garbage, a bunch of
cigarette butts. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
To be honest, it's pretty funny. I mean, the guy
should pick up his ship, but that's pretty funny that
he set up a whole little base camp in a bush.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Fucking savages, you know what I mean. I mean, what
are you gonna do. There's a there's a picture of
Aaron Rodgers, you know, flicking I posted it a couple
of weeks ago, or a couple of days ago, of
Aaron Rodgers flicking off the photographers that are up there.
But this day I was working with another photographer that
goes back to the old school days. It's the same
photographer that I was having the conversation earlier about the
(39:09):
business fall into the gym and I had an opportunity
to set up and to get on video and do
a TMZ style question. You know, when he came out
of the gym. I'm a little intimidated when it comes
to this because, if anybody knows my encounter with Roseanne
Barr a couple of years ago, I'm very hesitant to
(39:30):
go up and talk to anybody because for some reason,
I come off a little aggressive. Maybe I don't know.
I think I'm nice, but you know, I guess they don't,
and I'm afraid of the conversation just going totally shitty.
And Aaron Rodgers is one of those here where he
used to be my hero, and I just don't want
to piss him off. So you know, I sat there
(39:50):
for an hour, hour and a half, two hours, almost
three hours, and then decided right at the end that
I was going to go talk to him. And right
as I decided and I was going to reposition, he
comes walking out and I was just too far away
to do. But we got some pictures and he didn't
have a ring on his finger. If anybody knows McManus,
we were talking about if this story's true, if what's
(40:14):
up at the store, and I was saying, I don't
even think he's married. I think he's boys either.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I think I think the same dude.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I think he's playing around. I think he's lost his mind.
I think he's done a little too many peyote trips
and isolation chambers where he's just fucking with everybody. And
when I when I droned his house and I saw
that new dog that was out on his on his couch,
I think that when he's talking about his wife, he's
actually just picturing that dog. Not that he's in love
(40:41):
with the dog, or he's married with the dogg or
he but fuck's the dog. I'm just saying that, like,
you know, he's probably picturing the dog, just going, oh
my god, I'm talking about this girl. I'm talking about
Brittany for Tanny or whatever it is, and uh, I'm
just talking about my dog. And it's hilarious. So in
the last interview he said that you know, she'll she'll
come out when she wants to. She's it's all on
(41:02):
her terms. All that. I still think it's bullshit. I
think he's talking about the dog. Let that be known
on the podcast, but we got some pictures of him
coming out and it just looked like he was fucking
with us the whole time. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, I mean he knows you guys are up there, right,
or he knows where the photographers sit up there. Yeah, Like,
are you completely visible to him up there or is
he like stick giving the finger without seeing you. He's
just kind of guessing that you're there.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's completely visible. It's not like we're jumping around and
we're like just we're still in a bush. Like the
neighbors don't really know that we're there, but because there's
no way unless they really knew we were there or something.
But I don't even think they would stand for that
kind of thing. But they he knows we're there, and
if you just looked up to that spot, he would know.
(41:51):
So if he sees any shooting, plus thes like these
little kind of ripped holes in the fence and stuff
where you can put your lens even if you don't
want to sit in that lounge chair. But the whole
thing is is hilarious. And you know, you pay thirty
some odd million dollars for a fucking house in Malibu
and you've got savages sitting in lounge chairs and the
bushes above your house. It's kind of ridiculous. Had some
(42:12):
info on a new Jennifer Garner movie, Nothing Big. She's
playing a food influencer, which on her Instagram, on her
social media she has a mock show called a it's
called not a Cooking Show or something like that. I
think maybe it kind of spun off that or whatever,
(42:34):
but she kind of does it anyway. But she plays
a food influencer and it was just a quick scene
of her coming out of a building in LA and
I think it's supposed to be in like New York
or Chicago or something like that. Quick easy, Jennifer Garner
looking great. You know when Carner comes out out of
hair and makeup and she's just you know, looking great
and stuff. There's just great pictures. Oh boys, didn't see
(42:56):
him really go anywhere. Also had some info on a
new Josh Brolin movie with Elizabeth Shoe. Was he in
a movie with her where he plays And the info
was down in Sam Pedro kind of where I was
shooting the Rookie actually earlier, and it looked like it
(43:18):
was gonna be all boat stuff. You know, they just
they just show up there. The base camps there and
stuff like that. But then they just go out on
the docks and they take off on a boat all day.
But the premise of the movie is a guy who
is a diver goes out on a diving kind of
expedition and he gets swallowed by a whale. That's kind
of fun and it's a race against time before he
(43:38):
runs out of air.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
And if anybody knows that story, that story is technically
Jediby Dick, Moby Dick. There you go. Boom. So Josh
Brolin playing Captain Ahab. They got a few pictures of
him while he was kind of heading out, you know,
(44:02):
onto the boat. They were doing rehearsals for almost an
hour before they even went out on the boat. Wow
heeek out on the docks and you know, get a
few frames of them there. But what was crazy about
this Jedi's so typical. You know, I'm there, they go
out on the boat, I'm waiting around. They come back
for lunch. This is three or four hours later, right,
(44:22):
this is almost four o'clock in the afternoon. They come
back within ten minutes before the boat starts showing up,
my competition shows up.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh come on.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Come on, right, So I mean they probably knew. I
don't know, but it turned out to be non exclusive.
But Josh Brolin, And it's funny because I got him
getting on the boat. I had some frames. I sent
him in. You know, him on this thing, No big deal.
He comes off the boat, he's shirtless, covered in tattoos.
So it's like that that's a guarantee right there. You know,
(44:55):
it just sucks that it was non exclusive. But shot
him coming in, shot him as he walked. But also
shows the kind of inexperience of my competition. Josh Brolin
comes by, covered in tattoo, shirtless, right, you get him
coming down the barrel, do you stop there? No, no,
you turn around and you get his back because you
(45:16):
know he's got back tattoos as well, right exactly. Competition
did not do that.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They did not really.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
So I got a few pictures up there. I think
I got three or four, and my competition I think
got one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
There you go, victory for Mark.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And then I picked up a couple of day rates
Jedi in the last few few days.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh check you out.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah. One of them was Ditty's ceo the day of
his trial, the day or the day of the verdict.
Did he's verdict and we should probably touch on this
if we can. But the day of his verdict, they
wanted me to go and check out his old CEO
(45:57):
of his company, Christine and a Quorum Korman. It was
one of those where we didn't know anything, didn't know
anything about her. There had been people working on her before,
no luck, no joy. And it's one of those where
you have to watch the residential valet as well as
the parking, the underground parking coming out, so extremely difficult
(46:21):
to watch. Everybody coming out. Everybody's coming out in tinted range, rovers,
tinted Mercedes, tinted this into that, and Jedi. Every single
woman who wasn't obviously sixty and up or the men
that are sixty and up in this place, everything it
must have been. It's a whole Armenian building. Everybody in
there's Armenian. They're all that. And every single girl that
(46:44):
came out of this place looked like her. You know,
so you were you were in Glendale and in one
way or another, well it must be called the Glendale. Yeah,
it was just constant. Was that her go follow over
within five miles, try and get her give up. Was
that her, go follow go within five miles if she
(47:06):
gets out, get a shot. Nope, not her. I think
it's probably I think I counted sixteen lookalikes that was,
you know, Oh my god, in the first day. And
then the second day, I'm there early in the morning,
around nine thirty, ten o'clock, somebody comes out, no tint,
and I'm looking right at her, and I'm thinking, is
(47:27):
that her? But my whole mindset is I've seen sixteen lookalikes.
It's probably not her. She's probably not even around. I'm
not even you know. But for some reason, you know,
you get that feeling, you know, you get that kind
of spidey tingle, you know, and you're like, okay, I
gotta go after. She got two blocks down, and I'm like, okay,
I gotta go after. Went after her, caught up to her.
(47:49):
She drives all the way over to Hollywood and then
ends up getting out. I get a few frames. We
decide that it is her, but we still don't know
for sure. They call a reporter in Goldie shows up.
I mean in the nick of time, you know, because
she's got to come across town in the nick of
(48:10):
time she gets there. Christina ends up going up to
get a smoothie so that the reporter has time to
go up there confirm. And the way she confirmed was
walking up and just sitting next to them as they
were drinking their smoothies, and she was just yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yap, yap, diddy,
this diddy, that diddy. This did he? That did you.
(48:31):
That's how she confirmed. And then obviously came down and
then we waited by the car where she could approach
and I can get some photos and it was one
of those hero moments you know, where you know it
all worked out in the end. Everybody was happy. The
outlet's happy. Yes, exactly next day, I'm on for another
outlet and I'm working on the Karen Reid lawyer.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Trying to get some photos of him. On four the July,
right show up there early nothing, nothing, guy comes out.
He goes to some random car. Because this guy's known
to be driving like expensive beamers. He's got a nice house,
he's got tons of money. The story at the moment
was they've just signed some deal to like to write
a script for the whole story about what's what's happening,
(49:22):
like a movie script. They're looking to cash in on that.
And this guy comes out and he goes out to
like some like like VW. Tigwan or something like that. Random.
And I didn't think the guy was there. I thought
he was out of town and this is just a
neighbor that was taking care of the house. You know.
As I go over, I take a few pictures. I
look at the guy. It's the guy, right, So I wait.
(49:46):
Car comes out full of people can't see because of tint,
and I'm trying to kind of like be DISCREETE follow
the car from I don't know, probably almost twenty miles okay,
high speed too, Like I thought they knew. I was
on him in and out of the car pool lane
down the two ten just I mean, just crazy, crazy driving,
(50:09):
you know. I pull up alongside of him. Towards the end,
I see it's just all girls in the car. I'm like,
he's not in the back at the car, but I
keep following. Anyway. They go to some horse stable and
a bunch of girls get out of the car right
and they've got a saddle and they're obviously going to
do some riding, you know. Yeah, fuck, turn back around,
drive all the way back to the fucking house. I
(50:30):
think the guy's gone by then, you know, of course,
git their wait. I'm waiting all day long. This is
Fourth of July too. I want to get out of there.
I want to be able to get down and at
least get to see fireworks with my family.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You know, So you want your burger and your hot dog.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, so superate our Mexican food, so super late in
the day, I look over and I see a guy
hanging out in the driveway. Not him, It's just a
guy hanging out on the driveway. So I actually pull
by the house and I see the lawyer getting into
some old classic Cobra convertible Cobra firing it up. He
(51:08):
fires it up and revs the engine, and there's a
buddy that's waiting for him to pull out of the
garage and then hop in the passage sheet. They're going
for a cruise, you know. In that case, I'm like,
I got to get to the end of the street
just to get him come, you know, in the car,
driving the car. I get it. But then I'm like,
now I got to get some video. So I get
(51:29):
down to the bottom of the street, red light, and
I'm like, there's no way I'm going to keep up
with this guy. Right, he goes two blocks down, pulls
a new gas station.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I'm like, yes, oh perfect.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
So get pictures, get video, get him, you know, driving
out of the gas station, all that stuff. He turns,
he goes down a little back road and you know
where his house is. I don't really know this area
that much, so I don't know where he's gonna go
or what he's gonna do. And he's in this car
where he wants to go for a cruise, so he
knows the cruising roads, you know. Yeah, So he turns off,
goes down this back road, disappears. I drive about three miles.
(52:04):
I finally catch up to him to a light. Right
I catch up to him, I'm like, okay, just gonna
do a little bit of video. It's from behind, and
he just takes off in this thing and it's a
downhill like straight away and you just see him just
bone out. Just who I am exactly. I come out.
I'm behind a couple of cars, but I finally get
you know, maneuver my way out. I can't see him,
(52:26):
can't anything, get to the next light, nothing, next light, nothing,
that's he's gone, completely gone. So there's nothing I could
do at that point. But I did get some good pictures,
did get some decent video, and then that was it.
You know, just in time.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Had they run yet?
Speaker 4 (52:40):
I don't think so, you think I do want to
get that up pretty fucking quick.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Well, they're waiting for I.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Don't know, probably can't release this episode until they do.
But that's it. That's it for me. And then today
I had another day ray, but or yesterday I had
another day ray but didn't work out. That's stuff for future,
another future time. And then had a little bit of
a rookie today and that was it. I wanted to
(53:07):
get into one thing Jedi before we go. I mean,
obviously there's some what you're watching. I've seen a lot
of stuff lately. Honestly, I've been doing summer movies. I've
been doing everything. But I'm gonna bring up one, okay,
because it's a subject and what you're watching all in
one Okay, Okay, Is there anything, by the way you've
seen lately? Yeah, So Charlie's Thearren is in a show
(53:34):
called the Old Guard too. Okay, so Netflix movie Old
Guard one came out a few years ago, decent movie,
decent action. It's Charlie's kicking ass. You know, I don't
mind seeing that ever.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Old Guard two comes out, and Charlie's goes on to
you know, one of those bigger podcasts that is far
less interesting than ours, which is Call Her Daddy podcast. Okay, yeah,
call him daddy, Call her Daddy. You know, the one
that Kamala was on during the during the election time. Yeah,
(54:12):
and you know, I hear this is one of the
biggest podcasts out there. You know, it's pretty great next
to Joe Rogan. But Charlie's is on there, and she
I've come to realize that this podcast is totally fucking fake.
You know, like, if you're going to go on to
this podcast, you're obviously instructed, Oh hey, be hip, you know,
(54:34):
to say what you want. We're talking about sex, so
if you want to bring up stuff stuff like that,
you know, but do what you want. Charlie's is on there,
and she's you know, I've just listened to clips. I
haven't really listened to the whole thing, but she's on there,
and you know she's f bombing right and left, fuck this,
fuck that. Oh you know, you know, I have fucking
(54:56):
orgasms still. Oh my daughter doesn't need a man, just
constantly f bomb this, f bomb that. And I'm like, jeez,
Charlie's man. I mean, so I heard these interviews before
I watched the Old Guard. Just watch the Old Guard
one again just to kind of get, you know, warmed
up to the new one. So I'm listening to her
talk about this, and she's on there going, oh, yeah,
(55:16):
you know, I just went out the other night, you know,
and I took this twenty six year old home and
fucked the shit out of them. And the girls out there,
you know, need to understand that. You know, you need
to go get yourself. Fucking fuck boy. This guy was
so I had so many fucking orgasms. Oh my god,
this fucking twenty six year old fucking oh my god.
He blew my fucking mind. Everything she talked about for
(55:38):
her daughter, you know, her daughter's trans or something like that.
You know, she adopted some kids and you know she's
calling them trans and they think they're trands. Are a
little too young I think for that to understand and
She's talking about fucking these twenty six year olds and
her fucking orgasms and all.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
The fucking Oh Jesus Christ and.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
I when I saw The Old Guard Too, I just
started imagining her interview during the movie, and it ruined
the movie for me. Jedi, you know, I keep looking
at her and I'm seeing her fighting, and she's in
there with Uma Thurman, you know, Uma Thurman is her
is her nemesis or the villain in the show. In
(56:18):
the movie, and they have a big fight scene in
the end, which was okay, up for a third one,
but you would think Charlie's and Uma Thurman. I was
really getting excited about that team up, and I was
really getting excited about that fight, but all I could
think about was Charlie's talking about her fucking twenty six
year olds, and it just kind of ruined the movie
(56:42):
for me. Wow, it's kind of a bummer. And I
would say, go see go see the Old Guard too,
just because it continues from the old one. If you
like the old one, you'll like this new one. We've
just got a few minutes left and I wanted to
touch on one more. I texted you to watch Sirens.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Oh yeah, I forget about that.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
So you didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I didn't watch it yet.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, Well, you know we made the prediction of Sidney Sweeney,
did we not?
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Absolutely we made her career.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
You made her career. It had nothing to do with
her with her chest right.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
No, nothing the toy so her acting ability.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yes, if you go this, the listeners go back and
they want to listen to the next Big Thing. It's
one of our old podcasts. We called Sidney Sweeney the
next big thing because of you just see something, you
know when you're in our job. I mean, we were
working on Jennifer Lawrence before anybody else. Jedi was working
on Sidney Sweeney before anybody else. And you just see
(57:41):
these people and you see you can make that prediction. Well,
in Sirens, there's this there's this actor. Her name is
Millie Alcock. But she gave me the same feeling Jedi.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Oh yes, I remember you saying.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
But she's got that meaniness and I am calling her
the next big thing.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
She's got the Sweeney fact.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
So huh, She's got the Sweeny factor. She's got some
sweeniness to her, and you know it's kind of like swagger.
Sweeney swagger, right.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
The Sweeney swagger. She's Australian.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
She's Australian, yes, and you know as I because I
hadn't seen her anything else. Supposedly she was in House
of Dragons, Out of Dragons, Supposedly she was in that.
I never saw her in that, but I did see
her in Sirens. I felt the sweeniness, the Sweeney swagger, right.
And then when I looked into her IMDb and I
looked up what she's about to do, she's she's gonna
(58:39):
be in the new Superman movie and she's going to
be Supergirl.
Speaker 4 (58:43):
I mean, I heard terrible things about that Superman movie.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
I heard terrible things too, but it did get a
ninety five by the people on Rotten Tomatoes, which I
think is all bought and paid for. But she's going
to be Supergirl in the news. She shall obviously be introduced,
probably as a small part in that thing. But she
also has a standalone movie coming out that she's going
to be shooting where she is going to be Supergirl
in her own standalone movie. And that's that is the
(59:12):
next big thing type of movement, you know what I mean? Absolutely,
so I am calling it right now. Jedi that Millie
Allcock is going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 4 (59:23):
Wow, super Girl coming out twenty twenty six. Post production
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, post production is I would have said.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
It says post production.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh, she's already shot it.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
So I'm excited. I'm excited to see if you know,
the PBC can predict another huge star.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
I think so right two for two, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
But we touched on about three quarters of the things
I wanted to talk about. But there's a little bit
more that I wanted to touch on and we're going to
have to get that in the next one.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Absolutely, mate. Yeah, I'm about ready for bed.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I've crawled into bed listeners, I've left the desk of
my hotel room, and I'm currently very close to closing
my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
What a world we live in that you could just
lay down and do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Oh I love it all right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Well, on that note, let's wrap it up. And if
we have offended anybody on this episode, we do apologize,
but for myself and for Jedi who take care you will.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Sitting in the bed is giving me no energy, so
I jump off a wedding.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Alcock Alcock
Welcome everybody to the Paparazzi Podcast. I am Jedi, he
is Mark, and we are back for another funfilled frolic
into the world of paparazzi and newsman photography.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
There has been a lot of frolicking since the last podcast,
so we're going to get through as much as we
can in this hour, and then maybe we're probably going
to have to do another one to cram the rest
of what we want to talk about in the second one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, there's been a ton of shit's been going on,
weddings and all sorts of shenanigums.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
But most importantly, to be honest, straight off the bat, Jedi.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Straight off, I know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The Rookie is back in production.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shout out to our Rookie followers, our Rookie fans out
there who have been waiting patiently for season eight to
start production. It started today with a bang, a triple
set production.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
See I didn't notice you going live on Instagram? Are
you going to be back doing that for Season eight?
And the Rookie giving the fans what they want?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, given the opportunity. See what happened today was
I checked everything the main cast, which was Eric Winter
and a few others that I will be posting in
their street clothes. By the way, they got to set
(01:39):
late and all I could do was do a little
bit of drone of the production, and then my daughter
needed me, so I had to leave. But they're going
back tomorrow, so hopefully i'll have a little bit more tomorrow,
maybe a live tomorrow. I can only do live when
I can walk up and start, you know, doing a live.
If you can't see anything, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, you think they recognize you now on set? They
must do, right, You've been there a ton of times.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well during the hiatus, I think they all kind of forget,
you know. But when I show up, maybe I'll be
able to do it. I was thinking Jedi of getting
some of those meta glasses.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Oh yeah, that would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Using those to go onto these sets instead of having
to put the phone in my pocket stuff like that,
just actually just walk around with the glasses on. I
think that's a good you go.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Can you go live from them?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I don't know, can you?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If you can't go live, then fuck that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You must be able to write, because it's it's the
Facebook shit, right, It's Facebook, Instagram, Zuckerberg stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. I mean I think you just connected to your
phone and it becomes like the camera somehow, and I
think you can probably go live with that camera. I
would hope. So if I can't, and if that doesn't work,
then you know, some of these tech giants need to
uh ship.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well that's pretty cool until you forget that you're live
and you go take a pit.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well that'll make it a better live, right, I would
definitely need well, those cameras are wide. I would definitely
need a more telephoto lens. So rookies back everybody and
stay tuned for more on the shooting of season Ocho, have.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You watched any of the Rookie? You don't watch it? Right?
Those it is oo Ocho Sinko e eighty Sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Have I watched any of the the Rookie? I have.
I've kind of bounced around a little bit. I watched
maybe three quarters of season one, and then I've just
it's been just been popping up here and there, and
when I see it, I'll watch it for about ten
to fifteen minutes. I don't think as someone who's not
you know, completely invested that. I don't think you need
(03:58):
to really follow the whole thing. You can kind of
bounce around and just enjoy it as they do. And
I just like to watch stuff that I've shot, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I see if it's something that I shot, I watched
the whole episode, and if it's not a turn off,
that's cool. Before we get into our stories, I wanted
to bring up a subject that I was actually talking
about with another photographer recently, and I kind of wanted
to get your take on it, right because as everybody knows,
(04:32):
or as the listeners know from us, that the business is,
you know, in a weird place right now. It is
hard to make money in this business when it used
to be fairly easy. Outlets are not buying the pictures
that they used to buy. You really have to kind
of dig deep to figure out a story or work
(04:54):
on a story, or get an old person as an
unrecognizable or you have to get a day rate out there.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, it's going through It's been going through this weird
kind of phase for a while now. You know. Back
in the old day, when we were agency photographers, the
key was to get as many sets of as many
people as you can during the day, because any set
of anybody back then would sell. You know, you could
position yourself on any street in Beverly Hills or other
(05:27):
grow and shoot three, four or five six sets a
day of anybody and make money on all of them.
But now you know, the outlets are not just buying
a random set of anybody. There has to be, like
you say, a story relating to that person, or it
(05:47):
has to be somebody that hasn't been seen for a
long time, or hey, if so and so is eighty,
now guess who it is. They're unrecognizable.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and they're running out of those. So, I mean,
I saw into Hamilton on a post today and she
looked a little old, but she was not unrecognizable.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, a ton of them unrecognizable. They just look exactly
the same as they are, but with a little more
gray hair.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah. So that's what we were talking about, and you know,
we were trying to kind of kind of reassess the
business and what the difference is. And it came down
to something that I've been talking about four years, Jedi,
which is monetization. We are the only content creators on
the Internet that don't get paid monetized. We don't get
(06:39):
paid by the amount of traffic that our content creates,
right And you know, I was been told I'm crazy,
that there's no way that this would happen, you know,
there's no way it could happen, or something like that,
and we were just going over ways that it could happen,
and we had a lot of ideas. Comes down to,
(07:00):
basically withholding your exclusive pictures and trying to sell them
in a new fashion, in a new format, which is,
you know, selling them at the rate that they're at,
but also putting a twenty four forty eight seventy two
hour monetization on the life of the pictures because the
pictures don't usually live any longer than that, and not
(07:21):
authlorady in bargoes that are that are you know, put
in a position that are that work for the outlets.
But obviously they're getting paid by traffic. Obviously they're getting
paid by monetization.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And it's just so yeah, ads as well, aren't they
That there's ads on you know, people dot Com, the
Daily Mail, you know, New York Post, the Sun, any
of these outlets that we're consuming the news, you know,
via the internet. They're selling ad space on all of those.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Sites exactly, and everything's driven by traffic. It's all driven
by traffic, and the traffic that one picture creates is
obviously different than another what another picture creates, but we
don't get paid much differently for that. Honestly, when it
comes down to the amount that you know is probably
being made behind the pay walls and stuff like that,
that it would probably be shown that we are paid
(08:14):
pretty unfairly. And obviously it would take the unification of
all the agencies to adopt this kind of philosophy on
sales and stuff like that, which won't happen. So it's
going to take somebody to create a new agency that
they'll get exclusives from and stuff that you know they
(08:34):
can't do without, and to create a new style of
sales for those pictures. And then once it's done, it's done.
And then once it's done, every photographer will give you pictures.
So if anybody's willing to go out there and do that,
join me. We can go do that kind of thing
a second, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, Well, it's just it's so hard as well, though,
isn't it. Because as soon as our pictures go up
on like just say the daily mail. For example, our
pictures go up, they're then ripped off and put on
you know, one hundred different Twitter pages. Or if there's
a video that we share and it goes on the
mail is then ripped off by Twitter. The video and it,
(09:12):
you know, in some instances, could get hundreds of thousands
of views and actually give you know, the Twitter user
who's stolen it and posted it revenue, whereas we're not
getting anything.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, actually, and there's there's really nothing we can do
about that. Obviously, if we have a you know, a
lawyer team on the payroll, we can probably get some
cease and desists done and maybe a few lawsuits like
some of the agencies do. But you know, normally we
can't really do much about that. So the only thing
we can do is change the sales structure of these
(09:47):
pictures to go along with the way money is made
these days on the internet. You know, I mean, we're
we're selling pictures like they were print. We never got
any sales of how many magazines were sold because of
our pictures. You can it track that kind of a thing,
but now everything could be tracked. Everything has data behind it.
They track it themselves. I mean, every picture has you know,
(10:08):
account of shares on it and stuff. I mean, you
could track every single detail that our picture does after
its sales, and it just seems that it's such an
easy thing to create. And it's not like we would
be looking for hundreds of thousands of dollars on top
of this whole thing. It's just not paid fairly for
the life of the picture exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Now. Question we just talked about print, When was the
last time you saw one of your pictures printed actually
in a magazine.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Like, saw it in the magazine?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, or even if you knew of it like being
in a magazine.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Not on my owhnew of it being in a magazine.
I mean I see it on my sales reports.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh okay, so stop it still getting printed because I
mean now I'm doing you know, day rates for well
for the websites. Basically, I don't think I've had a
picture in print in over a year, which which is
nuts because you know, again going back to our agency days,
when we'd shoot all these people day in day out,
(11:12):
it was like every Wednesday or Thursday, we'd go to
a news stand and scour through every magazine and be like, oh,
I've got seven pictures in US Weekly. I've got I've
got six in Touch, I've got two in People, and
i've got one in Life and Style. But now the
news stands even still exist, No, I haven't seen one.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
There's only a couple of them that are still around.
I mean there's still the one in Beverly Hills, you know,
in Beverly's that I saw the other day. It actually
reminds me. I'll just touched on this real quick of
when I used to go to those magazine stands. And
I've talked about this on the podcast before, but if
a'body knew listening, this is kind of a quick, funny story.
But I was at the news stand one day and
I was just sitting in my car, probably talking on
(11:54):
the phone or something, and we would go there because
celebrities would go up to those.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
News stands, absolutely, and we would wait.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And I remember because I saw an article on him
today posting something about, you know, AI concentration camps or something.
Michael Rappaport, who's a huge political you know guy these days,
kind of a nutcase. I mean, you know, I like
the guy, like his acting stuff like that, but he's
a political kind of nutbag. He I got pictures of
(12:22):
him looking at a booty magazine one time, and it
went everywhere and it was hilarious. You know, aside from
the sales direct sales that agencies can do. You know,
we were also talking about day rates and how you know,
I was bringing up the fact that we're you know,
(12:42):
we're independent contractors, and we were telling stories to each
other about our recent day rates and how quick and
easy some day rates are and how some day rates
are super hard. Specifically, we were talking about Toby and
Toby getting shot in the head and how we just mentioned, oh,
he should have got hazard pay for that job, you know,
(13:03):
like a little extra, a little bonus on the side,
where they said, oh you know what, hey, bro, you
just got shot in the head for us. Here you go,
here's a little bit of bonus or something like that,
and it kind of, you know, the conversation kind of
evolved into, well, geez, maybe we should be like contractors
contracting the rates instead of just taking a day rate
for you know, obviously, if I'm going to go get
(13:25):
someone unrecognizable, some oldie, that'll take me maybe a day
maybe or two. But it's just sitting out in front
of their house and following at the grocery store and
getting them coming out super easy. Toby, on the other hand,
when they say, hey, can you go do the job
of the riots for us and go get into the
riots for us, maybe you know the few hundred that
you're supposed to get could be raked up a little
(13:48):
bit more, you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Know, bumped up a little bit. Yeah, why not? I mean, look,
I've been in the business for twenty years now and
the day rate has not changed from the first day
rate I ever got. It's been the same amount of
money for twenty years, which is absolutely insane, isn't it. Really. Yeah,
(14:11):
everything has gone up apart from the day rate. But
I love the idea of you know, so I want
to pool put in my backyard. I'm going to go
to a bunch of different contractors, get all the different rates,
and I'm going to pick the style of the pool
artists that I like and the best rate. Whereas, you know,
we could all have our little you know, a website
(14:33):
with all the different photographers, their styles, their rates, their
success rate, pictures in the past, and you know, the
magazine or website calls us up and we give quotes
on jobs. I think that idea is great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, and obviously there'll be guys that can undercut you.
Obviously there's guys that can say, oh, well, i'll do
the rate for cheaper, or you know, you could find
people that do the rate for cheaper, but those kind
of those kind of rates you're going to pay. The
guys that are I'll be just gonna sit out and
you know, maybe not even go and do the job
to get a second day rate, or you know, they'll
they'll just lie about what they're doing. You know, it'll
(15:09):
be all about your reputation and about be about your
track record. It'll be about you know, how you know,
how deep you get into these stories and stuff like
that based on reputation. Just like a regular contract or
a construction contractor would you know you're gonna go hire
the best, You're not if you want to hire the
cheapest finne you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Some cheap ass shit yeah, or nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Or nothing, you know, or they're gonna skip out on
it or something like that. Exactly. So it's not about
outrageous amounts of money. It's not like I'm going to
say instead of you know, four or five hundred dollars
for a day rate. I'm going to charge you three
thousand for the day rate. And I'm not talking about
something like that. I'm just talking about getting paid fairly
for what we're doing. Because times have changed. We're barely
(15:50):
hanging on out there, and everybody else, everybody else's you know,
pay has changed, everybody else's sales and the way they
make money online and stuff has changed. We're still the
same as we were, yeah, in the nineties, two thousand's,
you know.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah. I mean I've had conversations with people in the
last couple of months that, like, shit, we might actually
have to get jobs soon. I love this job so much.
I'm good at it. I don't want to be I
don't want to do anything else, Like I want to
be able to still earn enough to make a living
doing this. But at the moment, I'm going to be
(16:30):
doing this to like die. I'm not going to be
able to retire anytime soon. Are you kidding me? I'm
not going to be able to buy a house anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
If you are changing the format or switching the way
we get paid. Yeah, it's just evolution. It's just the
evolution of the business, and it can make it so
that you can continue to do the job, continue to
do the job kind of admirably, and you'll get paid.
You know, you'll get paid fairly. It's all about being
(17:00):
paid fairly. You know. The photographers have been left behind.
They're treated like slaves, they're treated like they're just photographers.
You know. Obviously we have good relationships with a lot
of the people that hire us and stuff like that.
But in the end, it's about paying bills. You know,
everything's going up. I mean me living in California, need
(17:22):
I say that, right? Yeah, And you know, one job
is not the same as the other job, and the
pay needs to kind of reflect that, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Well, and also like I don't know if the editors
even think about this, Like we're paying taxes on our
day rates. We're not collecting the full day rate. We're
paying taxes on that day. Right, We're also paying healthcare
on the day. Right, we have no benefits at all.
There's no four oh one ks or you know, if
we were in four o one k again, it'll come
(17:51):
out of the day rate a day rate. Although you know,
if it's however much we're getting, we ain't getting that
amount of money at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Exactly well and Jedi. So the conversation continued, you know,
and obviously when you get two minds, two genius minds
in this business that have been this business for a
long time, you start spitballing even further. And imagine just imagine, okay,
a world where not only can we sell pictures monetized
(18:21):
twenty four forty eight seventy two hours, but imagine getting
a day rate, you know, at the price that it's fair,
but then also on top of that, the pictures that
you get, the video that you get, you get also
paid monetized on top of that twenty four forty eight
seventy two hours. And it's a combination of the day
(18:43):
rate and the life of the picture online, you know
what I.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Mean, sign sign me up exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's very fair, and it gives incentive to the photographers
to go that extra mile and to do that extra
you know, do a little extra that they need to
get that, to just go out of their way, go out,
go out on a limb to get that, you know,
to get the shot video.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah. I mean, for any editors listening to this, I
hope I'm not coming across as ungrateful because I am
very grave for any work I do get, but any
extra money that I could get would be fucking great
as well.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well then I mean, I mean, can we stand by
our work. We're not lazy, you know, stupid photographers that
don't know what we're doing, you know what I mean?
So I said, you get what you get with us.
I feel totally confident talking about this because it's fair.
It is just it's a fair station, and it'll probably
never happen, to be honest, But you know, I'm just
(19:40):
putting it out there because we do have a podcast,
we do have a voice, and I know other photographers
into this, and I know some agency people listen to this,
and you know, maybe somewhere someday someone might stand up for.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Us exactly, and and and just to put it out
there for you know, the kind of value that people
get from from a day. For me, I was up
at four four o'clock this morning for a six am flight.
I took two flights, and I watched my target today,
you know, after being up at four o'clock earlier than
(20:13):
four o'clock whatever I said. And I didn't finish work
till eight o'clock this evening. So that's that's on the
clock for sixteen hours. You know, that's not that's not
your nine to five.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, and if you get down, if you break it
down the hours and the stress of going through you know,
the airports, and the stress of getting here, getting there,
and you know, everything put on top of it. When
you break down the actual numbers and the data, it
comes out to be not exactly a fair rate. You
know what if you get the pictures, you know, if
(20:48):
you do get the pictures, and everybody, because I mean
when you get pictures and you nail the ship out
of the pictures, your fucking hero, you know. Oh yeah,
so in those hero moments, it would be nice to
not just sit back and get what I would have
made if I didn't even make it, if I didn't
even get the pictures. I mean, just the extra bonus
(21:11):
would be nice. When you know, we'll come in on
those websites, you know what I mean. Yeah, And we're
not ungrateful. We are just the people. See, if we
do offend any of the outlets on this episode, we
do apologize.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, we don't ever mean to be well, sometimes sometimes
we do want to offend you, but not this time.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But switching gears. Stories you've been out.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Stories I have, mate, I've got I got a good one.
It was. It was a funny one. So I was.
I was covering a wedding the same weekend as bezos wedding,
one that obviously was nowhere near as big as exciting,
but it was a good story anyway. I don't know
(21:57):
if you've seen the last couple of days the the
police dash cam video has come out from the Mary
lou Retton arrest. Do you know who she is?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I didn't see the video, but I saw the films, so.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It was hilarious. So Mary Lourettin was a USA gymnast.
I think she was maybe a gold medalist or a
medalist in the eighty four Olympics, I believe Los Angeles Olympics.
She's from West Virginia and I was in West Virginia
a couple of weeks ago trying to trying to track
her down and find her with a reporter, and we
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had no joy trying to find her. But we did, however,
find out that her daughter was getting married in Dallas
a couple of weekends ago. And the reporter I was
working with originally on it had been given the run
around by Mary Lou a couple of times basically, and
I wanted to get these pictures so fucking bad, as
(22:57):
like a revenge for not being able to get her
and you know, looking for her all over the fucking place.
So we found the location of the wedding. It was
the Botanical Gardens in Dallas. We managed to figure that
out via Mary Lou's daughters instagrams. A couple of them
were tagging stuff on there. One of them tag a
(23:19):
picture of the actual location. But one week to go,
we're like, okay, this is fucking brilliant. We know exactly
where it is. So the day of the wedding comes, well,
actually the day before the wedding, I managed to get
pictures of them going to like a rehearsal at the
at the venue, just you know, just just to follow
and then some pictures. But it was the first pictures
(23:40):
since Mary Lou's arrest, and like since a year ago
when she ran a go fund me basically because she
had a ton of medical bills from was it leukemia
or or something like that, something to do with the
lungs and she was on like a breathing apparatus. So
I got pictures of her no breathing apparatus looking one
(24:03):
hundred percent fine, so we think, like massive scam. So
the weddings. The next day, I call up the venue
and say, hey, I'm with the so and so party
for the wedding. What time can I start arriving? What
time can I arrive? I'm a guest, and they give
me the time I can arrive. They say, you know,
the wedding's at five thirty. The the the Botanical Gardens
(24:27):
closed to the public at five, but you can start
arriving at three forty five. So I'm like, great. I
go in a little earlier than that, check it out.
Line up the venue that they posted on Instagram with
the actual venue, which looks different now than you know,
got chairs and fucking an arch and all that shit
(24:48):
all set up. So I'm looking around trying to figure
out is there any angle I can hide? Can I
hide in a bush out here? You know? Partner? The
park closes at five? Can I hide anywhere? And then
there's nowhere that I can hide at all? So I
actually go outside at the venue to try and find
an angle inside because it's quite close to the main road.
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So I go outside I stand up on a bus stop,
have a look, can't quite see over. There's two hedges.
I'd kind of make a hole in the hedge stick
my camera through, and then there's other bushes on the
other side, so there's no view there. There's a tree, Like,
fuck me do I go full Julane Maxwell and climb
(25:32):
a tree to try and shoot this wedding. And I'm
jumping up, jumping up, and I just can't reach. I
just cannot. If I was a foot taller, i'd be
able to nail it. And then times ticking, times ticking,
and it's five point fifteen. The wedding's about to start
in fifteen minutes. On my I'm going to go to
fucking home depot and get a ladder. So I drove
(25:53):
to home depot, which was seven minutes away. I picked
up a step ladder, a five step step ladder, rushed
back to the venue parts it illegally dumps. Stood it
up against the tree, and there's two minutes to the wedding.
Stood it up against the tree, got to the top step,
poked my head through the tree. There's a v in
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the tree which I can just stand in perfectly with
my camera and not be seen. Albeit, I am on
a main road and there's a very busy main road
in Dallas, and there's tons of cars going past, and
I'm just stood on this ladder. The music starts playing.
Mary Lou walks down the aisle, you know, with her
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ex husband I think it was, and she's a short,
little gymnast, clean pictures of her. I get the bride
walking down the aisle. I get Mary Lou, I get
the bridesmaids, I get the groom, I get the whole
fucking thing. Well, I'm standing on this ladder railing it off,
and I'm like, I'm going to get seen at some point,
and I don't want to be too much of a dick.
I don't want to ruin the wedding. I jump off
the ladder, put the put the ladder back in the cart,
(26:59):
and go and return it to homekeeper. So I go
and get my money back and just just naeld the
the Jesus out of the pictures. And it was a
revenge set. I'm not going to say I wouldn't have
worked this hard otherwise, but I did put the extra
effort in just to kind of avenge the reporter and
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get this this great story in the back.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, sometimes you need that extra motivation and then you
end up nailing it. I find it interesting though, that
you had the angle of them coming down the aisle
because you know, obviously a lot of times during weddings
and stuff, you have the opposite angle of them walking
away from you. But then you might like them up,
you know, on the stage or you know, and you'll
have like a profile or something like that. So it's
(27:44):
good that you've got that angle, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just just straight down the bow. And it's funny. I
was talking to another photographer on my way back from
home depot after I dropped the ladder back off and
just just telling him what I've done, like reveling in
my glory, and he's like, oh, yeah, I've done that
once before as well. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I literally had the ladder for like two hours and
just took it back. I'm like, may I had it
for thirty seven minutes and took it back. They must
have wondered, like, what the fuck I was doing?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Nah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's all good, yeah, but it was. It was. It
was a really fun one to work, not super hope
high profile. But you know, whenever you end up nailing something,
and it actually got a really good showing online as well.
It was you know, it was a real feel good
story for me. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, I've actually shot a couple of botanical gardens myself,
and as you were telling the story, I was kind
of relating to it. So they closed it off to
the public for the public to come in. Now, if
there was public already in the botanical gardens, would they
be able to be in the potential? They kicked everybody out.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
They kicked everybody out. Okay, yeah, everybody out.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Because the couple of times I've done that, they've closed
off the potanical gardens, but the people that were already
in could kind of remain and you know, well at
least like I did, you know when they would close.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Can you remember who you shot in the botanical gardens before?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, it's always been a production.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Okay, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh yeah, it was Katherine McPhee once that was in
that Scorpion show and then also Mandy Moore in uh
This is Us got her and it was Yeah, it
was one of those where they kind of closed it off,
but then people are still kind of in there, and
I would because it's the potanical gardens as bushes everywhere.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, I just went and kind of lined up where
I knew they were going to shoot, and I just
kind of just hid in a bush, you know. And
then when the scene happened, it's like okay, I and
then I nailed it. And then I just got up
and left in front of everybody, just popped out of
the bush, Like, where the fuck did that guy come from?
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, I remember years ago in La as well, Katie
Perry filmed I think it was.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Raw at the the ab how'd you say, Abati Arboreta
something like that, in the one named near Santa Santa Anita.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, she shot that video there and I was like
tasked with trying to get pictures in that place, but
I could. I never actually found it, found the stet.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All right, Well, it looks like we're nearing break time here.
When we took a quick break and we'll be back
with you got some more stories.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I've got one more story.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Sweet, all right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Welcome back. I hope everybody had a refreshment for that break.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I cut my toenails I would think most people are
listening in their car, so that's.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Where that's where I listened to my podcasts.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Don't drink and drive. That's the message from the PBC.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What else have I been doing. I got one more
little story. I was in one of my favorite places
in the country. I guess you can have a guess.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Martha's Vinnam. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Nantucket, Nantucket. Yeah, I ended up back on Nantucket. It
was supposed to be for the fourth of July weekend,
but I got two sets in the two days prior
to fourth of July, so they sent me home early,
which I was kind of upset about because the whole
point of being there was for the Fourth of July parade,
(31:28):
which was where I got Bill Belichick and his much
younger squeeze Jordan Hudson last year. Probably the best set
that's been got of them was the one I got
last year on the fourth of July. Yeah, but anyway,
on the second of July, it wasn't a fantastic scept
to be honest. They just they went into town and
picked up another car. But it was, you know, pictures
(31:50):
of a pair of them together. And then the next
day I actually got them going to the airport and
flying out of Nantucket, but they were due to fly
back actually the first time, the second I was there
and got the pictures. Yeah, I got them flying out
getting on a private jet. Again like great pictures. It
was like they were walking down a catwalk towards me,
(32:11):
basically cleaning down the barrel. But yeah, they got on
a private jet and actually flew to Saratoga, New York,
where I managed I told the desk where they were
heading after I got the tail number, and they managed
to get a photographer to actually get to the airport
in Saratoga and get them getting off a plane there
as well, nice, which was really cool. So we kind
(32:34):
of a kind of a double set. But then then
after that I got I got asked to leave because
you know, they were no longer there, which I was
upset about because I actually figured out that they were
coming back the next day, and I found the plane
they were coming back on the next day, and I
was already boarded my plane literally five minutes before they landed.
So I was absolutely gutted about that because I would
(32:55):
have loved to have got one more set of them
and done the fourth of July Shenanigans. But whatever. Hopefully
I'll end up back on the island another time, another
time this year, sometimes soon. Hopefully I was there. I
think I think I did seven trips there last year,
so hopefully there'll be a few more to come this year.
(33:17):
We'll see. It's still very early.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, you're becoming kind of a regular on Nantucket. I mean,
people probably know you a little bit. And there's really
I mean, there's not many better places to be for
Fourth of July than Nantucket.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta say, mate, it's stunning. Actually a funny story
trying to get to Nantucket. So I go. It was
two flights to me from Buffalo, one two. Actually I
didn't even come from Buffalo. I went straight from Texas,
where I'd finished the Mary Lou story. So I flew
Dallas to Boston, and it was going to be Boston
(33:50):
to Nantucket. But as I was up in the air
in Boston, it was on a it was you know
the little cessna's they hold like eight people. We're on
one of those from Boston to Nantucket. And the fog
set in about it's about a forty five minute flight
and the fog set in about forty minutes into the flight,
(34:11):
so we circled it must have been like a dozen
times and then actually couldn't land on the island, so
we had to It was either go back to Boston
and start again, or go to an airport like a
fifteen minute flight away from from Nantucket called Hyenas, which
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from there you can actually take an uber down to
the ferry port and then get an hour long ferry.
So that's why I ended up doing. I ended up,
you know, making friends with everybody on the flight. We
shared two ubers down to the down to the harbor,
and then we spent the next hour on the boat
kind of drinking beers. And you know, they were all
(34:54):
locals apart from one of a girl there, a young
college student who was my d one volleyball player at
some fancy school, and then another kid who played hockey
another fancy school, and then some kind of some women
a little older than me who had houses on them Tucket.
So I got talking to them about you know, who
(35:17):
I am, what I do, and they were absolutely fascinated
by me, just like kind of sneaking onto the island
and infiltrating you know, Belichick and Jordan. They loved it,
So it was really fun to actually talk to people
who appreciated it and didn't just think I was a scumbag.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Did you tell them to listen to the podcast?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know what? I actually didn't. I really should have that.
I completely forgot. I was just so caught up in
my storytelling where we tell stories.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
If you're fascinated about that love Lovely, then you would
love the podcast. Mate.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, that's a that's a grimsy on my part. Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Well, and I'm gonna speak for the listeners Jedi that
there's numerous times that you tell these stories about what
you're doing, and there are so many opportunities to give
little hints and do little teeny pictures, little teeny videos.
You don't have to reveal anything, just little mysteries, little
little you know, teasers and stuff that are so there's
(36:26):
so many opportunities you have to tease.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I'm terrible and uh.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You know, with control of the Instagram, you know, as
I do. You know, everybody's my rookie lives. I'm kidding,
they're not.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I need to up my social game.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You need to up your social game, you know. And
like I said, I'm speaking for the listeners. So if
the listeners want to tell Jedi go on to our
DM tell him what you think, okay, because please do.
It would have been cool to see like a beer
at the at the bar, and then it would have
been cool to see the fog below you. Where am
(37:03):
I going now? Type of thing, you know would.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Be it would be great next time. So I will
up my game.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Is it my turn?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
It is your son? Tell some stories.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Well, I've been kind of busy. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers,
as everybody knows, is my old hero. He was my quarterback.
I'm a Packer fan for those who didn't know. And
any chance I get to work on Aaron Rodgers, I
will do. I've probably talked about it a little bit
on the podcast, but there was another job. You know.
(37:38):
Obviously we're tasked to getting the wife. Everybody wants to
know about the wife, okay, So going up to work
on Aaron Rodgers is is kind of a chore. I
think we've mentioned that on the podcast that going up
there's kind of a pain in the ass. He lives
in North North North Malibu. I went up there one
(37:58):
day just kind of random. Every once in a while,
I just, you know, feel ambitious to get up there,
and he came out did the same thing that he
always does, is go to the gym. You know, we're waiting.
We're waiting to see this wife of his. I'll drone
a little bit. I'll kind of look to see down
on the beach. There's actually a a lounge chair set
(38:22):
up in a bush that looks over his beach that somebody,
another pap put in there to just sit and wait
for him with. And if you look at the lounge
chair around it a bunch of garbage, a bunch of
cigarette butts. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
To be honest, it's pretty funny. I mean, the guy
should pick up his ship, but that's pretty funny that
he set up a whole little base camp in a bush.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Fucking savages, you know what I mean. I mean, what
are you gonna do. There's a there's a picture of
Aaron Rodgers, you know, flicking I posted it a couple
of weeks ago, or a couple of days ago, of
Aaron Rodgers flicking off the photographers that are up there.
But this day I was working with another photographer that
goes back to the old school days. It's the same
photographer that I was having the conversation earlier about the
(39:09):
business fall into the gym and I had an opportunity
to set up and to get on video and do
a TMZ style question. You know, when he came out
of the gym. I'm a little intimidated when it comes
to this because, if anybody knows my encounter with Roseanne
Barr a couple of years ago, I'm very hesitant to
(39:30):
go up and talk to anybody because for some reason,
I come off a little aggressive. Maybe I don't know.
I think I'm nice, but you know, I guess they don't,
and I'm afraid of the conversation just going totally shitty.
And Aaron Rodgers is one of those here where he
used to be my hero, and I just don't want
to piss him off. So you know, I sat there
(39:50):
for an hour, hour and a half, two hours, almost
three hours, and then decided right at the end that
I was going to go talk to him. And right
as I decided and I was going to reposition, he
comes walking out and I was just too far away
to do. But we got some pictures and he didn't
have a ring on his finger. If anybody knows McManus,
we were talking about if this story's true, if what's
(40:14):
up at the store, and I was saying, I don't
even think he's married. I think he's boys either.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I think I think the same dude.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I think he's playing around. I think he's lost his mind.
I think he's done a little too many peyote trips
and isolation chambers where he's just fucking with everybody. And
when I when I droned his house and I saw
that new dog that was out on his on his couch,
I think that when he's talking about his wife, he's
actually just picturing that dog. Not that he's in love
(40:41):
with the dog, or he's married with the dogg or
he but fuck's the dog. I'm just saying that, like,
you know, he's probably picturing the dog, just going, oh
my god, I'm talking about this girl. I'm talking about
Brittany for Tanny or whatever it is, and uh, I'm
just talking about my dog. And it's hilarious. So in
the last interview he said that you know, she'll she'll
come out when she wants to. She's it's all on
(41:02):
her terms. All that. I still think it's bullshit. I
think he's talking about the dog. Let that be known
on the podcast, but we got some pictures of him
coming out and it just looked like he was fucking
with us the whole time. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, I mean he knows you guys are up there, right,
or he knows where the photographers sit up there. Yeah, Like,
are you completely visible to him up there or is
he like stick giving the finger without seeing you. He's
just kind of guessing that you're there.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
It's completely visible. It's not like we're jumping around and
we're like just we're still in a bush. Like the
neighbors don't really know that we're there, but because there's
no way unless they really knew we were there or something.
But I don't even think they would stand for that
kind of thing. But they he knows we're there, and
if you just looked up to that spot, he would know.
(41:51):
So if he sees any shooting, plus thes like these
little kind of ripped holes in the fence and stuff
where you can put your lens even if you don't
want to sit in that lounge chair. But the whole
thing is is hilarious. And you know, you pay thirty
some odd million dollars for a fucking house in Malibu
and you've got savages sitting in lounge chairs and the
bushes above your house. It's kind of ridiculous. Had some
(42:12):
info on a new Jennifer Garner movie, Nothing Big. She's
playing a food influencer, which on her Instagram, on her
social media she has a mock show called a it's
called not a Cooking Show or something like that. I
think maybe it kind of spun off that or whatever,
(42:34):
but she kind of does it anyway. But she plays
a food influencer and it was just a quick scene
of her coming out of a building in LA and
I think it's supposed to be in like New York
or Chicago or something like that. Quick easy, Jennifer Garner
looking great. You know when Carner comes out out of
hair and makeup and she's just you know, looking great
and stuff. There's just great pictures. Oh boys, didn't see
(42:56):
him really go anywhere. Also had some info on a
new Josh Brolin movie with Elizabeth Shoe. Was he in
a movie with her where he plays And the info
was down in Sam Pedro kind of where I was
shooting the Rookie actually earlier, and it looked like it
(43:18):
was gonna be all boat stuff. You know, they just
they just show up there. The base camps there and
stuff like that. But then they just go out on
the docks and they take off on a boat all day.
But the premise of the movie is a guy who
is a diver goes out on a diving kind of
expedition and he gets swallowed by a whale. That's kind
of fun and it's a race against time before he
(43:38):
runs out of air.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
And if anybody knows that story, that story is technically
Jediby Dick, Moby Dick. There you go. Boom. So Josh
Brolin playing Captain Ahab. They got a few pictures of
him while he was kind of heading out, you know,
(44:02):
onto the boat. They were doing rehearsals for almost an
hour before they even went out on the boat. Wow
heeek out on the docks and you know, get a
few frames of them there. But what was crazy about
this Jedi's so typical. You know, I'm there, they go
out on the boat, I'm waiting around. They come back
for lunch. This is three or four hours later, right,
(44:22):
this is almost four o'clock in the afternoon. They come
back within ten minutes before the boat starts showing up,
my competition shows up.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh come on.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Come on, right, So I mean they probably knew. I
don't know, but it turned out to be non exclusive.
But Josh Brolin, And it's funny because I got him
getting on the boat. I had some frames. I sent
him in. You know, him on this thing, No big deal.
He comes off the boat, he's shirtless, covered in tattoos.
So it's like that that's a guarantee right there. You know,
(44:55):
it just sucks that it was non exclusive. But shot
him coming in, shot him as he walked. But also
shows the kind of inexperience of my competition. Josh Brolin
comes by, covered in tattoo, shirtless, right, you get him
coming down the barrel, do you stop there? No, no,
you turn around and you get his back because you
(45:16):
know he's got back tattoos as well, right exactly. Competition
did not do that.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They did not really.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
So I got a few pictures up there. I think
I got three or four, and my competition I think
got one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
There you go, victory for Mark.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
And then I picked up a couple of day rates
Jedi in the last few few days.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh check you out.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah. One of them was Ditty's ceo the day of
his trial, the day or the day of the verdict.
Did he's verdict and we should probably touch on this
if we can. But the day of his verdict, they
wanted me to go and check out his old CEO
(45:57):
of his company, Christine and a Quorum Korman. It was
one of those where we didn't know anything, didn't know
anything about her. There had been people working on her before,
no luck, no joy. And it's one of those where
you have to watch the residential valet as well as
the parking, the underground parking coming out, so extremely difficult
(46:21):
to watch. Everybody coming out. Everybody's coming out in tinted range, rovers,
tinted Mercedes, tinted this into that, and Jedi. Every single
woman who wasn't obviously sixty and up or the men
that are sixty and up in this place, everything it
must have been. It's a whole Armenian building. Everybody in
there's Armenian. They're all that. And every single girl that
(46:44):
came out of this place looked like her. You know,
so you were you were in Glendale and in one
way or another, well it must be called the Glendale. Yeah,
it was just constant. Was that her go follow over
within five miles, try and get her give up. Was
that her, go follow go within five miles if she
(47:06):
gets out, get a shot. Nope, not her. I think
it's probably I think I counted sixteen lookalikes that was,
you know, Oh my god, in the first day. And
then the second day, I'm there early in the morning,
around nine thirty, ten o'clock, somebody comes out, no tint,
and I'm looking right at her, and I'm thinking, is
(47:27):
that her? But my whole mindset is I've seen sixteen lookalikes.
It's probably not her. She's probably not even around. I'm
not even you know. But for some reason, you know,
you get that feeling, you know, you get that kind
of spidey tingle, you know, and you're like, okay, I
gotta go after. She got two blocks down, and I'm like, okay,
I gotta go after. Went after her, caught up to her.
(47:49):
She drives all the way over to Hollywood and then
ends up getting out. I get a few frames. We
decide that it is her, but we still don't know
for sure. They call a reporter in Goldie shows up.
I mean in the nick of time, you know, because
she's got to come across town in the nick of
(48:10):
time she gets there. Christina ends up going up to
get a smoothie so that the reporter has time to
go up there confirm. And the way she confirmed was
walking up and just sitting next to them as they
were drinking their smoothies, and she was just yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yap, yap, diddy,
this diddy, that diddy. This did he? That did you.
(48:31):
That's how she confirmed. And then obviously came down and
then we waited by the car where she could approach
and I can get some photos and it was one
of those hero moments you know, where you know it
all worked out in the end. Everybody was happy. The
outlet's happy. Yes, exactly next day, I'm on for another
outlet and I'm working on the Karen Reid lawyer.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Trying to get some photos of him. On four the July,
right show up there early nothing, nothing, guy comes out.
He goes to some random car. Because this guy's known
to be driving like expensive beamers. He's got a nice house,
he's got tons of money. The story at the moment
was they've just signed some deal to like to write
a script for the whole story about what's what's happening,
(49:22):
like a movie script. They're looking to cash in on that.
And this guy comes out and he goes out to
like some like like VW. Tigwan or something like that. Random.
And I didn't think the guy was there. I thought
he was out of town and this is just a
neighbor that was taking care of the house. You know.
As I go over, I take a few pictures. I
look at the guy. It's the guy, right, So I wait.
(49:46):
Car comes out full of people can't see because of tint,
and I'm trying to kind of like be DISCREETE follow
the car from I don't know, probably almost twenty miles okay,
high speed too, Like I thought they knew. I was
on him in and out of the car pool lane
down the two ten just I mean, just crazy, crazy driving,
(50:09):
you know. I pull up alongside of him. Towards the end,
I see it's just all girls in the car. I'm like,
he's not in the back at the car, but I
keep following. Anyway. They go to some horse stable and
a bunch of girls get out of the car right
and they've got a saddle and they're obviously going to
do some riding, you know. Yeah, fuck, turn back around,
drive all the way back to the fucking house. I
(50:30):
think the guy's gone by then, you know, of course,
git their wait. I'm waiting all day long. This is
Fourth of July too. I want to get out of there.
I want to be able to get down and at
least get to see fireworks with my family.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You know, So you want your burger and your hot dog.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, so superate our Mexican food, so super late in
the day, I look over and I see a guy
hanging out in the driveway. Not him, It's just a
guy hanging out on the driveway. So I actually pull
by the house and I see the lawyer getting into
some old classic Cobra convertible Cobra firing it up. He
(51:08):
fires it up and revs the engine, and there's a
buddy that's waiting for him to pull out of the
garage and then hop in the passage sheet. They're going
for a cruise, you know. In that case, I'm like,
I got to get to the end of the street
just to get him come, you know, in the car,
driving the car. I get it. But then I'm like,
now I got to get some video. So I get
(51:29):
down to the bottom of the street, red light, and
I'm like, there's no way I'm going to keep up
with this guy. Right, he goes two blocks down, pulls
a new gas station.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I'm like, yes, oh perfect.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
So get pictures, get video, get him, you know, driving
out of the gas station, all that stuff. He turns,
he goes down a little back road and you know
where his house is. I don't really know this area
that much, so I don't know where he's gonna go
or what he's gonna do. And he's in this car
where he wants to go for a cruise, so he
knows the cruising roads, you know. Yeah, So he turns off,
goes down this back road, disappears. I drive about three miles.
(52:04):
I finally catch up to him to a light. Right
I catch up to him, I'm like, okay, just gonna
do a little bit of video. It's from behind, and
he just takes off in this thing and it's a
downhill like straight away and you just see him just
bone out. Just who I am exactly. I come out.
I'm behind a couple of cars, but I finally get
you know, maneuver my way out. I can't see him,
(52:26):
can't anything, get to the next light, nothing, next light, nothing,
that's he's gone, completely gone. So there's nothing I could
do at that point. But I did get some good pictures,
did get some decent video, and then that was it.
You know, just in time.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Had they run yet?
Speaker 4 (52:40):
I don't think so, you think I do want to
get that up pretty fucking quick.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Well, they're waiting for I.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Don't know, probably can't release this episode until they do.
But that's it. That's it for me. And then today
I had another day ray, but or yesterday I had
another day ray but didn't work out. That's stuff for future,
another future time. And then had a little bit of
a rookie today and that was it. I wanted to
(53:07):
get into one thing Jedi before we go. I mean,
obviously there's some what you're watching. I've seen a lot
of stuff lately. Honestly, I've been doing summer movies. I've
been doing everything. But I'm gonna bring up one, okay,
because it's a subject and what you're watching all in
one Okay, Okay, Is there anything, by the way you've
seen lately? Yeah, So Charlie's Thearren is in a show
(53:34):
called the Old Guard too. Okay, so Netflix movie Old
Guard one came out a few years ago, decent movie,
decent action. It's Charlie's kicking ass. You know, I don't
mind seeing that ever.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Old Guard two comes out, and Charlie's goes on to
you know, one of those bigger podcasts that is far
less interesting than ours, which is Call Her Daddy podcast. Okay, yeah,
call him daddy, Call her Daddy. You know, the one
that Kamala was on during the during the election time. Yeah,
(54:12):
and you know, I hear this is one of the
biggest podcasts out there. You know, it's pretty great next
to Joe Rogan. But Charlie's is on there, and she
I've come to realize that this podcast is totally fucking fake.
You know, like, if you're going to go on to
this podcast, you're obviously instructed, Oh hey, be hip, you know,
(54:34):
to say what you want. We're talking about sex, so
if you want to bring up stuff stuff like that,
you know, but do what you want. Charlie's is on there,
and she's you know, I've just listened to clips. I
haven't really listened to the whole thing, but she's on there,
and you know she's f bombing right and left, fuck this,
fuck that. Oh you know, you know, I have fucking
(54:56):
orgasms still. Oh my daughter doesn't need a man, just
constantly f bomb this, f bomb that. And I'm like, jeez,
Charlie's man. I mean, so I heard these interviews before
I watched the Old Guard. Just watch the Old Guard
one again just to kind of get, you know, warmed
up to the new one. So I'm listening to her
talk about this, and she's on there going, oh, yeah,
(55:16):
you know, I just went out the other night, you know,
and I took this twenty six year old home and
fucked the shit out of them. And the girls out there,
you know, need to understand that. You know, you need
to go get yourself. Fucking fuck boy. This guy was
so I had so many fucking orgasms. Oh my god,
this fucking twenty six year old fucking oh my god.
He blew my fucking mind. Everything she talked about for
(55:38):
her daughter, you know, her daughter's trans or something like that.
You know, she adopted some kids and you know she's
calling them trans and they think they're trands. Are a
little too young I think for that to understand and
She's talking about fucking these twenty six year olds and
her fucking orgasms and all.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
The fucking Oh Jesus Christ and.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
I when I saw The Old Guard Too, I just
started imagining her interview during the movie, and it ruined
the movie for me. Jedi, you know, I keep looking
at her and I'm seeing her fighting, and she's in
there with Uma Thurman, you know, Uma Thurman is her
is her nemesis or the villain in the show. In
(56:18):
the movie, and they have a big fight scene in
the end, which was okay, up for a third one,
but you would think Charlie's and Uma Thurman. I was
really getting excited about that team up, and I was
really getting excited about that fight, but all I could
think about was Charlie's talking about her fucking twenty six
year olds, and it just kind of ruined the movie
(56:42):
for me. Wow, it's kind of a bummer. And I
would say, go see go see the Old Guard too,
just because it continues from the old one. If you
like the old one, you'll like this new one. We've
just got a few minutes left and I wanted to
touch on one more. I texted you to watch Sirens.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
Oh yeah, I forget about that.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
So you didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
I didn't watch it yet.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, Well, you know we made the prediction of Sidney Sweeney,
did we not?
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Absolutely we made her career.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
You made her career. It had nothing to do with
her with her chest right.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
No, nothing the toy so her acting ability.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yes, if you go this, the listeners go back and
they want to listen to the next Big Thing. It's
one of our old podcasts. We called Sidney Sweeney the
next big thing because of you just see something, you
know when you're in our job. I mean, we were
working on Jennifer Lawrence before anybody else. Jedi was working
on Sidney Sweeney before anybody else. And you just see
(57:41):
these people and you see you can make that prediction. Well,
in Sirens, there's this there's this actor. Her name is
Millie Alcock. But she gave me the same feeling Jedi.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Oh yes, I remember you saying.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
But she's got that meaniness and I am calling her
the next big thing.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
She's got the Sweeney fact.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
So huh, She's got the Sweeny factor. She's got some
sweeniness to her, and you know it's kind of like swagger.
Sweeney swagger, right.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
The Sweeney swagger. She's Australian.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
She's Australian, yes, and you know as I because I
hadn't seen her anything else. Supposedly she was in House
of Dragons, Out of Dragons, Supposedly she was in that.
I never saw her in that, but I did see
her in Sirens. I felt the sweeniness, the Sweeney swagger, right.
And then when I looked into her IMDb and I
looked up what she's about to do, she's she's gonna
(58:39):
be in the new Superman movie and she's going to
be Supergirl.
Speaker 4 (58:43):
I mean, I heard terrible things about that Superman movie.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
I heard terrible things too, but it did get a
ninety five by the people on Rotten Tomatoes, which I
think is all bought and paid for. But she's going
to be Supergirl in the news. She shall obviously be introduced,
probably as a small part in that thing. But she
also has a standalone movie coming out that she's going
to be shooting where she is going to be Supergirl
in her own standalone movie. And that's that is the
(59:12):
next big thing type of movement, you know what I mean? Absolutely,
so I am calling it right now. Jedi that Millie
Allcock is going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 4 (59:23):
Wow, super Girl coming out twenty twenty six. Post production
at the moment.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, post production is I would have said.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
It says post production.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh, she's already shot it.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Shit.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
So I'm excited. I'm excited to see if you know,
the PBC can predict another huge star.
Speaker 1 (59:43):
I think so right two for two, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
But we touched on about three quarters of the things
I wanted to talk about. But there's a little bit
more that I wanted to touch on and we're going to
have to get that in the next one.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Absolutely, mate. Yeah, I'm about ready for bed.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I've crawled into bed listeners, I've left the desk of
my hotel room, and I'm currently very close to closing
my eyes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
What a world we live in that you could just
lay down and do a podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Oh I love it all right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Well, on that note, let's wrap it up. And if
we have offended anybody on this episode, we do apologize,
but for myself and for Jedi who take care you will.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Sitting in the bed is giving me no energy, so
I jump off a wedding.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
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