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March 5, 2025 • 51 mins
Featuring: Ben Affleck, Elizabeth Holmes, The Oscars and more. In this #Papisode Jedi explores a minimum security prison and a tropical Island. Mark bumps into Ben on a dog walk. We discuss the Oscars and a girls trip to space, plus more. For the content in this papisode please visit us on TikTok, YouTube or Instagram @paparazzipodcast. Thanks for listening and sharing. Be Well!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Paparazzi Podcast. I am Jedi. Here
is Mark. We let it get away from us again,
didn't we. We were good with piling on the pods
and then then we slipped up again.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
But we're back well. Awards season started, so you and
you would think since we were doing this podcast on
the biggest Hollywood awards night, that we would be talking
about the Academy Awards, which we're going to. But it's
not gonna be. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Gonna be the main focus. The big awards are about
to come up, so I'm sure we'll mention something at
some point. I've only seen one movie that's in contention,
you know what. I don't even know if it's been nominated, actually,
but I know that Karen Culkin won an Oscar earlier
on this evening for his supporting role.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, it seems like the gave his award at lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah. Have you seen that movie?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I haven't. It's called a Real Pain, and it's really good.
I enjoyed it. I usually hate films that are up
for Oscars. They're two ARTI party and not enough going on,
but this one was good. Karen Colchin basically played his
character from Succession. Okay, yeah, and he and you know

(01:25):
he won won the.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oscar for it, and it was tobally why he got
the role.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah. I enjoyed it. My wife enjoyed it. So there
we go.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's well, there you go, that's all that matters. I mean,
I watched the Conan O'Brien's opening monologue. I thought that
was pretty funny. He crawled out of Demi Moore's back.
I know that you haven't done your homework and seen
the substance, so you're you're not really knowing what I'm
talking about. But if you knew what I was talking about,

(01:53):
you would think it was fucking hilarious. He lost his
shoe in her body and had to go back in
to find his shoe, which was fucking hilarious. And he
did mention a real pain and a complete unknown and
he said it's what they were yelling at me on
the red carpet, which was pretty hilarious. Yeah, so his

(02:14):
monologue was funny. I always liked to listen to the
monologues unless it's someone that I know is just gonna
go stupid. So I know Conan is good. I know
he abides by the rules. He did pick on Timothy's
chalomy a lot, which was funny, and you know, Kylie
Jenner sitting next to him just uncomfortable as hell because

(02:35):
they were making fun of his age pretty much. I
think Conan said because he was I don't know if
you saw Chalome's.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Outfit, did you, Yeah, it's horrific.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think Conan said something along the lines of, he
won't get home, he won't get hit by a car
riding his bike home tonight. That's funny, Kylie, And Kylie
was just blank faced.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's funny. Yeah, he's in like a mustard colored suit
and shirt and just kind of looks a bit ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, yeah, but it was funny. But that's enough of
the Oscars that I care about. I mean, I did
see actually a thing of Zoe Saldana. I think they're
calling her Seldonia now. It was Zoe's Saldana for the
longest time, but now because of you know, recent you know, immigration,

(03:25):
you know, things happening and stuff like that, they have
to add the little Nyanya to it, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, she I didn't know she was Dominican until tonight. Yeah,
she praised her like Dominican roots.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well she did, she and she said she's a proud
daughter of an immigrant immigrant parents, which, to be honest,
unless you're American Indian, we are all proud kids of
immigrant parents, right right.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, so I'm not.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I'm about to win the you know, Oscar for
best podcast in the world.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, co hosting.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
What's been going on, mate?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Nothing? Really, I went back up into the burn zone
plasites back up in Palasa. It's kind of by mistake,
you know, they've they've been letting people, kind of yeah,
they've been letting people. I was with my daughter actually,
and we were kind of just playing hooky from school.

(04:27):
She had a doctor's appointment. It was just kind of
middle of the day. It was no point in going back,
so we went up in that area and I just
wanted to show her some of the burn houses, just
to kind of, you know, give her a little perspective
or something. And I saw, you know, the roadblock there,
and I just waved my press pass, you know, my my,
my non Los Angeles issued press pass, and they let

(04:49):
us in. So we went up to check out the
burn zone. She was pretty blown away by what was going,
what happened up there. Yeah, but noticed a few things
in there that maybe earned a picture or two. So
we'll talk about that after this thing is uh is released,
because I haven't because of the OSCARS, I will not

(05:11):
be releasing any stories for the next two days.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, I mean, everything is just going to be Oscars Oscars, Oscars,
isn't it exactly?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And nothing nothing turned in until Wednesday. I've got a
couple of sets that I got depending on when we
put this podcast out. You know, I'm not sure if
I should talk about any of the sets up until
up until the day.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So let's hang on to that for a minute. I can, though,
talk about what Nate Dogg and I were working on
from from the last podcast we did when we were together.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yes, we should have started with that for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, so that that came out a couple of days ago.
So we were in we were in Texas staking out
a prison, trying to get pictures of Elizabeth Holmes the
Therenos broad Stuff and one of her jailmates, Jen Shah

(06:07):
from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I feel like they could definitely have their own reality
show in prison, and I feel like they should. Definitely,
they're definitely going to hang out after prison, and I
feel like they could be best friends.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Do you say that? But we witnessed both of them
for like three days in a row with zero interaction
between the two of them.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Wow okay.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
They crossed each other on the track, maybe a little smile,
but like no lingering, like look, conversation or anything. It
was just they were both focused on working out. Wow okay,
which was kind of fun. So we got we got
them both working out the first day we went there,

(06:55):
and we got homes working out, I think like three
or four days in a row. And then it was
actually the weekend of Elizabeth Holmes's birthday, so her husband, Billy,
and her parents and her two kids showed up on
both the Saturday and the Sunday, so we got, you know,

(07:16):
really nice pictures of her walking around the prison yard
holding her husband's hand. Which is kind of crazy, right.
This prison is so lax that there's not even like
a main gate to it either, Like the prisoners could
literally they could walk out of the prison if they
wanted to, but obviously, you know, they'd get time added

(07:38):
and all that kind of crap. So they don't. It's
just an extremely minimum security facility. And yeah, they let you,
you know, the kids, you can visit. I think it's
Saturday and Sunday from like nine o'clock in the morning
till four o'clock in the afternoon that whole time, and
you can, you know, sit outside. They were bringing food

(08:00):
in for them. We saw like people eating popcorn and
the kids playing in the sand. It's quite cushty.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Well, I feel like there's you know, a service you
can pay for as like and maybe celebrities do these days,
where they'll pay maybe even thousands of dollars to be
in that kind of a secluded kind of a kind
of a state like maybe up in like Big sur
or something like that, where they'll just go and they'll
get locked. Who was it recently that, Oh it was

(08:29):
Aaron Rodgers that went and paid to get locked in
a freaking cabin or something right of seclusion.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, and he did like a week in somewhere I
can't remember where.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, So it's funny that people actually pay to do
that and all you need to do is break the law.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, but yeah, it's nuts. It looked very comfortable, Like
I said, they're you know they're working out for hours
in the morning, and there's other other inmates walk in
the track all throughout the day and just just hanging out.
It was It was unbelievable. But what's crazy is that
you can see all of this from the outside as well. Really,

(09:07):
I've worked a bunch of different prisons before, and this
one's by far, by far the easiest, really photograph.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, is there other people there? Like? Was there?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Just I take it back. It's not easy. It's still
hard to shoot. You know, you're still you're still long
lensed and hiding. It's it's not like, yeah, I take
it back, it's not.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Are you hiding though, Like do they know that you're there?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I mean you're hiding like bushes or car in your car.
You're hiding.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
You're hiding.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You literally could walk, you could walk up to the
fence and like right through or even like yell at them.
It's almost to a setup. But you know, as soon
as they would have seen us, I'm sure they would
have you know, hidden or gone into somewhat of a
hiding situation. Okay, I take that back. It's not we

(10:00):
did we did work hard. It was it was long days,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, and this is you know, obviously if you
don't want to give it up. But it's all good.
But is it like you're on a street that's adjacent
to the prison or are you huddled somewhere that's uh,
you know, you're you gotta it, can't let anybody see you.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
You're on a street in a neighborhood, so you're looking
out for neighbors as well, you know, the nosy neighbors
that we we all we see all the time and
have to deal with all the time. Okay, so you're
trying to avoid the nosy neighbors, trying to avoid people
driving past you. You know you don't. And also you're
you're dealing with window up, window down, and you know,
constantly putting up and putting it down and trying to

(10:41):
shoot in traffic's coming by.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, car on, car off, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Exactly, car on cough. And it's Texas, so it's warm
as well, so you need the car on for the
ac as well.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's pretty interesting. I would think that there would be
spectators that would stop by and you know, maybe give
you know, eat it. Go get a sandwich at the
local place and sit and eat a sandwich waiting for
Elizabeth Holmes to go ride and run by. Yeah. I
mean these girls, you know, they didn't you know, they're
not a threat to society, you know, in any way.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Well, hence why it's such a low you know, low
security prison. You know, you like the there's free weights
in there, you know, so you could I mean if
it was a violent prison and people were a threat,
they could they'd easily, like inmates could easily bash each
other over the head with these weights and have, like,
you know, cause some real harm. What else have I'd

(11:38):
been up to? Oh? I had I had an interesting
trip to the to the Caribbean, my first trip to
the Caribbean, which was fun.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We had a we had a tip come in that
somebody was was somewhere, so I visited Turks and Caicos.
Oh following following up this tip, I was super excited
to head there. Actually I headed there from from Vancouver.

(12:10):
I went to Vancouver for the for Invictor's Games. Ok, yeah,
Prince Harry and and Meghan Markele. But like the day
I arrived, Meghan Markle flew flew back to Los Angeles,
which like put a real bummer on that because last
year on Valentine's Day, I photographed Harry and Meghan up

(12:32):
in Whistler, Canada. It was you know, they were there
celebrating the countdown that you know, it hit a year
until the Invicteds Games was gonna was going to be there,
so they were up there promoting that last year. So
you know, we were kind of hoping to get them
together again. This Valentine's Day just gone, but with with
Megan flying back to California, it was just Harry by himself.

(12:57):
And then this other job came up in Turks so
they they flew me from Canada all the way over
there and then but unfortunately the celebrity that I was
after there, there was no sign of her there at all.
You know, we even went to the We even rented
a speedboat for four hours to drive around all of

(13:20):
the islands, checking out like all the humongous like beach
mansions and the fancy hotels.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Like driven or you drive it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I didn't drive it. We had a captain, okay, so
we you know, we checked every fucking house with binoculars
and long lenses, just looking for any sign of of
security or any sign of action, and there was just
nothing at all. But What was quite funny was as
we were waiting to board our boat, we were there

(13:53):
a little bit early, a golf cart came by with
a group of people on and I'm looking at them.
As a woman, I don't even know how to describe
the skin condition. It was Winny Harlow anyway, and I
and I jokingly said to the report I was like, oh,
there's Winny Harlow. Look, and she's like, actually, that is

(14:13):
Winny Harlow. I'm like, oh shit. So I went. We
ran over to a viewpoint where we could see her
getting on the boat and sailing off. So I managed
to rattle off some frames of that. You know, we
thought nothing of it, like, it's just a few shitty
frames of Winny Harlow. So we didn't even didn't even

(14:33):
send them in. And then two days later it came
out that she got in this this is actually Valentine's
Day as well. I was there this day and it
came out that on the thirteenth of the month, she
got engaged to Kyle Kuzma, the basketball player. Oh wow,
oh fuck, send the pictures out, And then they didn't
actually run the pictures. And then later on that day

(14:56):
it turns out she did a huge photo shoot on
a bigger boat, so she took the small boat to
a bigger boat and then she posted all of these
amazing engagement photos on media. So then you know, we
went about our day on the boat looking for whoever
we were looking for. We did see a shark, which
was quite exciting. Saw a shark and four or five

(15:20):
turtles as well, so that was cool. And then as
we got back to the harbor, you know, we were
waiting to see if we could get Winnie coming back,
and Chris STAPs Pauzingis the basketball player, got off another
boat right in front of us, so I got some
frames of him, but you know, nobody cares about him, unfortunately,

(15:43):
but it was you know, just still nice to get
some frames.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
So basically, if you're a pap, you just want to
be hanging out on that dark.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's that's the place to be. Well it was. It
was NBA All Star break, so that's why you know,
Kuzma was there with Winnie, and Pausingas was there with
you know, there were other basketball players in the Caribbean
as well. I saw some from a bunch of different
people's instagrams and stuff, so that was that's the place
to be the Caribbean man. That's where NBA guys hang out.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, we see a lot of pictures coming out of
the Turks.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, so I did do one other job as well.
I did a job for the US Sun. Their jobs
are mainly you know, reality TV. It's kind of off
the beaten track kind of stuff. People that aren't usually photographed.
So there's a there's a woman. I doubt you've even

(16:37):
seen the show. Have you heard or even heard of it?
Southern Charm, Yeah, I've heard of it the name of
the show. So yeah, there's there's one woman on the
show called Catherine Dennis. Last year, she I think she
was actually fired from the show after being on it
for eight seasons. She was arrested for DUI last year

(16:57):
and I don't think she'd been seeing since she's turned
into a bit of a recluse. So I was sent
there with the mission to try and snatch some frames
of her.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
So I wait.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was there for three days and just no action whatsoever.
I'd even, you know, called it in, Hey, how sure
are we on this address? YadA YadA yah, and they're like, yep,
she's there, So you know, we're pretty sure we've got intel.
She's there and I'm there all weekend. There's nothing going
on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then Monday is my flight out,

(17:33):
and you know, I've given the story to the picture
editor there that you know, unfortunately, we're not always going
to be able to get the story because my record
with the Sun is it's pretty good. It's probably like
ninety percent of the time I've produced for them. So
you know, she's the editor's gone into the Monday morning

(17:53):
meeting and you know, had to say to everybody, you know, sorry,
it's been an unsuccessful mission, and Jedi tried. And so
she's giving this story to the to the desk and
literally as that's happening, the car comes out. I follow it.
It's it's nothing too great. She just went to a

(18:14):
Starbucks drive through, which sucks. And as soon as I
figured it was a drive through situation, I managed to
find a spot where I could shoot through my back
windshield into the car straight on, ritled off some quick frames,
sent it to the picture desk because I wasn't sure
if it was her or not, because I you know,
I've not seen the show. I've not seen this woman
in the flesh. And you know, like, as a photographer,

(18:36):
if you've ever seen them before, it's hard to identify.
But if you've seen them once, you can pick them
out of a crowd of a million people.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I sent the frame over to her and she's like,
holy fuck. I was just telling everybody in the in
the meeting that you you know, you didn't get it.
And we tried, YadA yadah, great stuff, great stuff, Okay,
I'll try and get more. And literally, unfortunately, all it
was was she she just went through the driver, but
she's making a bunch of different faces, she's picking up

(19:05):
the coffees, and she just went home. But they were,
you know, they were super happy. They understood that it
was a tough assignment and we're just happy to get
some frames. So that's that. I am away on another
job right now, which unfortunately isn't working out. But you
know what, they're still the morning to go, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Well, you speak of the Sun, I actually just remembered
that I did do a job for the Sun last week.
I had actually started the morning, which made me think
of this too. I'd actually started the morning and I
was heading up into Brentwood, just doing a normal troll
past the Garner Affleck compounds, and as I kind of

(19:49):
passed Garners, I saw a guy sitting there. But then
as I went up by Bens, passed Bens and then
continued up to Christian Bales to move on to the
next I did see Ben walking his dogs back down
towards his house. So I only had about a half
a block to kind of reposition and get some frames.

(20:11):
And as I did that, as I kind of repositioned,
you know, we're talking to half a block here, there
was three guys that just kind of just swarmed on me.
You know. Obviously they they saw him come out, they
were already there, they saw him come out, They got
a few frames of him as he left, but then
kind of left him alone. And then when they saw

(20:32):
me spotting him, you know, they freak out like you know,
like like cockroaches, you know, savage cockroaches, and acted like
it was you know, two thousand and nine again trying
to block my shots, pulling their cars in front of me.

(20:52):
Obviously it did nothing. There's no way you can really
block me unless you actually put your hand in front
of him my camera. But at this point, it's Ben Affleck.
It's he's shot every single day. The same guys that
are there every single day are the same guys that
shoot him every single day. They're pretty territorial. It's very weird.

(21:12):
It's like they can't.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Be making a living trying to photograph Ben Affleck every
single day when he's photographed every single day.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I mean, the one guy we've made fun of him
before on the podcast when when we've been on Jennifer
Garner follows and stuff, how dirty this guy's car is
and shit, can only imagine what it's like on the inside,
but I can tell it's his car when he pulls
up because I believe that he has got his catalytic
converter stolen. Oh really, he has not repaired it yet.

(21:40):
That's how bad this guy is. And that's how that's
how you know he's not making a living, because the
guy hasn't replaced his catalytic converter yet. And he and
he drives up and you hear that, you know that
he just seem pull up and he doesn't. I just
find it funny when you know, because Ben was dressed,
I mean, he was dressed like he was ready for something.
I think he went to some red carpet event after that.

(22:02):
I think I saw pictures later and stuff. But he
was walking his dogs out there like he looked like
some prince of Brentwood, you know, and he's walking by
this guy's car, shooting him the catalytic converters, you know,
just you know, cluttering the car. It's pretty embarrassing, you know,
for Ben. But after that, got a call, because this

(22:25):
was early in the morning, I finally got out super
early then and got a call to head up to
Edwin Castro's house.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I was literally just going to ask you after you
were talking about this, what's going on with your boy Edwin?
Because I've not seen or heard anything of him for
a while.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Exactly, and neither had the Sun. So they were wondering.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
His Malibu house burned down, right.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
His Malibor house did burn down. And I saw today
that there's a debris island floating offshore from his house.
I saw drone footage on my Instagram is some you know,
something and that I don't follow, but it's just popped
up anyway, because I'm looking at all this stuff and

(23:08):
there's a little debris island that's kind of just floating
offshore maybe you know, two hundred yards off shore, and
I noticed that it was just sitting right outside offshore
from his old house. But yeah, they were wondering what
he's up to, if he's you know, bought any new cars,
or you know, if he's you know, doing anything different,

(23:29):
if he's lost a little weight. Right, he's got that
awesome gym up there in his twenty five million dollar house.
He came out and followed him a little bit down
into the valley, and to my total shock, he went
to a car customizing shop. Oh no shit, yeah, yeah,

(23:52):
never seen him go to any of those before. Right,
it's every time this guy goes out, he goes to
a custom car shop, and specifically Porsche's shock her there, right, Yeah.
He was there about an hour and then I kind
of just shot him as he was coming back to
the car. He was inside most of the time. I
couldn't see him, so I just shot him. As he

(24:13):
walked back to the car, he gave a little smile.
I want to say, he's lost a little bit of weight,
you know, doing pretty good. I've never seen so much
in one guy's pockets. I don't know if you ever
noticed pictures of this guy. But he's got so much
shit in his pockets. I don't even know what it is.
I think he's got three different vapes, you know, a

(24:33):
giant wallet. I don't know, but I have.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
A giant wallet for all that money he's.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Got exactly right. You know, some people just put it
on a credit card and have one, you know, a card.
But I think he's got all of his millions in
his wallet in the front pocket. Yeah, I check it
next time you see it. Got him done deal, really
good pictures. Then he went home and then really nothing

(24:58):
since then because every you know, the last three weeks,
we're obviously an award season. Every single weekend there's new
there's an award show along with everything else that goes
on the parties. And but the super Bowl happened between
our last podcast and now, and uh, you know, obviously

(25:19):
there was a lot that happened there. There was a
lot of celebrity news that happened there. Everybody was Boo
and Taylor Swift, they were cheering Donald Trump, they were
Kendrick Lamar was dissing on Drake Conham, a pedophile on
National TV, and during the coolest and Worst halftime show
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean it's not really my type of music.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I mean I hadn't heard any of the songs before.
I you know, the dancing and the visuals were cool,
but yeah, not really my my jive.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, I was at a place where there was
a lot of people watching. There was a viewing party,
I guess, and my son, my thirteen year old son
and his friend were actually off in another room watching
like kind of a projection TV in this big area,
and I kind of wandered over into that area to
see how he was reacting to this, because it's Kendrick

(26:16):
Lamar is kind of him and his friends kind of
jam right, it's kind of his music. So I just
kind of wandered over to see what he was doing.
And I walked into them with their cell phone lights
on and just kind of waving their hands back and
forth to Kendrick Lamar, which was kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Fucking d weeps.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, look a dorks. So afterwards, you know, I saw
because during the show, Kendrick Lamar is wearing these jeans. Right,
A lot of people don't know how small, how short
this guy is, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Like four foot six.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah. So when you when you when you're thinking of
perspective of people, you know, like if you look at
Harrison Ford or something like that, you know you see
him your whole life and movies. But they're kind of
small guys. Yeah, who else is out there? This one person?
I always think of that, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise always
Robertson Niro, small guy.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So when you I'm watching this halftime performance and I'm
just all I'm thinking to myself is how small Kendrick
Lamar is wearing those big bell bottoms. Yeah. So after
seeing the jeans, after seeing the performance, I knew what
was going to happen next with those frickin jeans. Yep,
let me guess, Jedi, you ordered a pair.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm wearing them now.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I bet you are. Jedi falls into the hype of
all these things. No, but I couldn't believe what I
was seeing the next day out those things were selling out.
Everybody was all over them, all the guys across the world.
It goes with my theory, Jedi. Okay, and then we'll

(27:53):
take a break after this, but it goes with my theory.
I feel like the hip hop world is mocking its
own fans. They're mocking their own music and trying to
make the worst music ever and their fans will still
listen to it. Oh yeah. And they're trying to come

(28:14):
up with fashion trends because maybe they're out of trans
I don't even know, but they're trying to come up
with fashion trends to say, look how extreme we can
go by getting a five foot five dude out there
in bell bottom girls jeans, and then everybody will want
them after this performance? Of course, and they did. Yep,

(28:35):
it's amazing. Should we take a quick break and then
come back.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
They're just about to announce the winning actor.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
A winning actor. I am calling before we do this.
Let's see, I'm calling. Who are the actors now again?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Sebastion, Stan, Adrian Brodie, Timothy Shallomey, La May, Coleman Domingo
and Ralph Fines.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I don't think it's gonna be Shallamay because he's too young.
It's chalomy.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Oh, the Kardashian curse lives on.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Oh really, Adrian Brody? Yeah, I was gonna say Adrian
Brody just because you know that brutalist movie is like
an Oppenheimer. Yeah, they're gonna give it to the the
guy that did the you know, and Chalomay is gonna
have so many awards, like just you know, he got
to move on. Give it, got to give it to
the Have.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
You photographed Brody? I have?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I have. Actually he was one of my first photographs,
one of my first spots actually really Melrose, Melrose and Robertson.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He did the piano that movie with Jamie Fox right,
the pianist or the piano man or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah,
I photographed that years ago. Yeah, I always I used
to have. I used to have a great tipster in
Los Angeles who owned like a closed showroom and he'd
get different celebri he's in every now and then, so

(30:02):
you know, to give him free ship basically, and he
was close friends with Brody, and whenever Brody would come in,
he'd call me up, set me up across the street,
like hidden in my car, and bring Brody out onto
the street in all sorts of different outfits and he'd
photograph him on his like small little camera and I'd
be absolutely fucking hosing him in all these different outfits,

(30:23):
with all this shit that he was getting given from
across the street.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
That's cool, that's cool. So yeah, let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Hello. Yes, So Adrian Brody just spoke for like an hour?
Did he Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I had it muted though, so no idea what he said.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did he mention you?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think he did. He waved, so I think that
was probably to me. Oh, Mickey Madison in Anora was
won the actress in a leading role. I've never heard
of it, and I've never heard of the film.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Makes me once again not want to watch the Oscars
ever again. I just don't understand, you know, I mean,
I kinda you know, it makes you understand. I don't understand,
but it makes you understand how Demi Moore cleans up
on all the other Awards shows right then when it
gets to the Oscars, it's already already something. It happens

(31:22):
all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But then Shalla la la Sha la la la la
la may when like everything else as well?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Not sure, but I think so.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
I definitely like that you won something somewhere.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, but Adrian Brodie deserves it. I don't know about
this other girl. M I won't see Anora. I'm not interested.
And if they want to give it to her just fine.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah. Yeah. The best thing about like the Oscars for
me when I lived in La many years back, was
when Oprah had her show, The Oprah Winfrey Show every
Monday after the Oscars. She'd have her show live from

(32:09):
the Kodak Theater the next morning, and nobody else seemed
to know about it or work it other than me. Really,
I'd get a bunch of the winners from Oscar Sunday
showing up with their oscars the next day. And I
had this to myself for like two or three years.

(32:29):
And like, my favorite year, the one that sticks into
my mind was two thousand and nine. It was when
slum Dog Millionaire won like a million Oscars and I
got like the whole cast coming out of the back
of the Kodak Theater with all of our oscars. And

(32:50):
then I also got Kate Winslet, who won an Oscar
for I can't remember what she want it for, but
I got a great frame of Kate Winslet with her
Oscar as well, So that was really good. That was God.
I can't remember what else I got. It was just
years I had it to myself.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Just exclusives of all the Oscar winners.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, and and those pictures of them in their kind
of street clothes kind of after they get the Oscars,
you know, with their Oscar. Those are always good pictures.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Maybe you like an Oprah as well in her street clothes,
like with her dogs and stuff. It was it was
a cool little.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Honey hoole that without her oscar.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, no oscar for oh yeah. And what made me
think about it because I'd forgotten all about that was
Oprah was was up there just now with Whoopee introducing
Queen Latifa, who was singing something again. I've got it muted,
so no idea what it was.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's probably a James Bond song they've been doing. They've
been doing the kind of ode to James Bond songs
and each person was singing something different. Why because it's
part of cinema.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Would you see Amazon just brought the rights to James
Bond as well.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I did.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Conan joked about that. He said, Jeff Bezos. They had
footage of Jeff Bezos showing up to the Oscars and
it was in an Amazon box that a guy got
delivered and then they went then they went to his
seat and he was missing and then they went back
to the footage and it looked like a ring doorbell
camera footage and there was a guy stealing the package.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
That's pretty funny. Okay, that's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Lot, that's pretty funny. So you mentioned in you know,
in the first half that Adrian Brody, our Oscar winning
Adrian Brody, you used to photograph him, which obviously escalated
him to the next level and led to his Oscar

(34:55):
win eventually. Well, we had we had a few deaths.
Are a couple of deaths last week in Hollywood, and
one of those reminded me a very similar type of situation.
Was Michelle Trockenberg and they're calling her Michelle truct and Berg.
How did you know her, as I thought it was

(35:17):
Trutch and book Truchenburgh. Yeah, we all didn't know anything.
And I did a few of those with her. Oh yeah, well,
well ones that she didn't know about. No, she actually
knew about them. But it was the same thing though.
She would go to boutiques and our agency was part
of the boutiques owners like the same the same pr

(35:41):
people were there, you know obviously in the boutiques, and
they had her come along and do some outfits and
stuff like that and leave the store with a bunch
of bags, you know, yeah, that kind of thing. But
I ended up kind of setting it up with her, so,
you know, actually meeting her, talking to her, and uh,
spending you know, two hours or something doing the whole thing.

(36:03):
So I would say, got to know her kind of
you know, but enough to enough to know that she
was really cool, that she was one of the one
of the good people in Hollywood. She wasn't one of
those other people. But yeah, kind of a tragedy on
that one.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I don't know what happened to her though.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Really no, and her parents have declined an autopsy as well. Wow,
it's interesting. I photographed her once, and once only eighteen
years ago I photographed her. I photographed her on her
twenty first birthday. She was shopping with her mother on
Robertson Boulevard, So that very well could have been a

(36:44):
tipster that came in because she was doing like the
Alice and Olivia boutique and like a bunch of other ones.
Because I knew I photographed her once, but I couldn't
remember when it was, and it was back in whatever
eighteen years ago. Was her twenty first birthday, which is
you know, pretty fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Really, yeah, exactly, we'll get those posted for you on
the Instagram.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Not so. We've been doing this for so long, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I gave myself five years when I first started this business.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, I've been I've almost been in the US doing this,
as you know, as long as I was fucking living
in England.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And another we last last week was the legendary Gene Hackman.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Gene Hackman.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, Unfortunately, I don't think I've ever shot Gene
Hackman me neither.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean that death wasn't as shocking, you know, he
was ninety five, as opposed to tratching bugs, you know,
untimely death at thirty nine. I hadn't photographed Hackman either,
although I had been to Santa Fe, New Mexico with
the you know, tasked with trying to photograph him. This

(37:59):
is probably goodness ten twelve years ago or so ago,
when you know, he was a recluse up to his
dying days, and I know the last set of pictures
of him were from a year ago. But when I
was sent out there, he hadn't been seen in quite
some years, and myself and a reporter were tasked, you know,
with going out there to try and get a set

(38:20):
of him, and I think we were there for five
days and just just no sign of him whatsoever. And
he owned a restaurant called Ginger back in those days,
and his artwork still hangs on the walls now. You know,
we had dinner there a couple of times and hung
out there and doorstepped him, but just yeah, no sign

(38:44):
of him back then. Unfortunately. It would have been great
to photograph, and it's always it's always nice to photograph
these old school, you know, Hollywood legends as it were.
But yeah, that was an unsuccessful mission unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well. I ended watching a couple of Gene Hackman movies
since then. Obviously, you know, we don't need to get
into them on what you're watching, but if you're on
streaming or anything like that and you just type in
Gene Hackman and it brings up the list of movies
that he's in and you just kind of scroll to
see which one you want to watch. I mean, I

(39:21):
would say, you know, seventy five percent of his movies
are worth a definite one time watch at least. You know,
some of them may be more and it made me
think of how, you know, how good of an actor
he really was, because he picked rolls that were really good.
He was a good villain, he was a good, good guy.
And we ended up watching The Firm the other night,

(39:42):
and you know, that movie's just insane.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know, I don't think I've actually seen a movie
with him.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
In really, I think, you know, yeah, I'm sure you have.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You know, you're you're a big movie guy.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
If you're gonna start with Gene Hackman movies for you,
I would probably go with Heartbreakers. Okay, Okay, I'm not
even going to tell you who's in it.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'll let you a nice, uplifting movie.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
It's definitely up your speed. I think you'll like it.
I think you should watch it on the road and
uh and enjoy it. Okay, but Jean, but Gene is
great in it.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I'll download that for for one of my flights I've
got coming up.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Okay, well, maybe not on the flight.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oh is it? There's some some Neodie scenes in there.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
No, not really, just uh, you know, it's just something
to watch while you're on a couch instead of a
plane flight.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You know, I always feel like really awkward whenever I'm
I'm watching a movie on the plane and like suddenly
there's a there's a bit of an I'm like, you know,
trying to hide the screen and not blush.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Well, you take enough flights where you you probably come
into that more than most people.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It does happen.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, you're like, you're like action movies only on the
plane today.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, I've got to stop watching those pornos on planes.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously, if there's no one
sitting around you, you're fine, but you know, you got
to pick it right. Speaking of what you're watching, have
you seen anything lately?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Just the Real Pain, you know, with with Kulkin, which
again I can't recommend enough. Not really watched any other
movies lately. I am watching this latest season of A
White Lotus on on HBO, which is really good. Patrick
Schwartznigger's in it, and he's kind of a little sexual deviant,

(41:48):
you know, jerking off in front of his little brother
and kind of weird shit like that.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Really yeah, but it's good.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
You know, the last of the first two seasons of
White Lotus were fantastic, Absolutely loved them, and the third
episode actually is comment is out today. But that's a
show I'm watching with my wife, so I won't be
able to watch that one till I get home.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Okay, Yeah, that's interesting because I just I just saw
all his family's Instagram posts of you know, congratulating him
and him getting the phone call that he was going
to be on the White Lotus and all that kind
of you know, I found it funny because it was
like Maria Schreiver, Katherine Schwartzeneger, Chris Pratt, you know, the

(42:33):
whole thing going, oh my god, I'm so proud of you,
all this stuff, and it's like really.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Well, yeah, and he gets his cock out in the
first episode as.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Well well, and just not knowing that until just now,
you know, I thought to myself, oh, well, maybe he's
got a good role that because I mean I've actually
seen him in a couple of roles where you know,
he's playing, you know, just a guy that can you know, really,
anybody can play. I could play, you could play, and

(43:02):
that's fine if you're going to be Patrick Swarzenegger. I
would never see him in a serious role. So when
they were giving him all this praise, I thought to myself, Oh,
maybe he's getting something. He's gonna show us something he does.
I guess he shows us something that's pretty funny. But
at the same time, it's like, oh, you're a Schwarzenegger
and a Pratt, and maybe you might have a little

(43:25):
help getting a role where you have to pull your
dick out, you know. So I don't think it's much
of a stretch. I mean, I could just keep going
with the puns, but I'll hold back.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, it wasn't hard for him to get that role.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, I jotted down a couple of remarks I thought
we could discuss a little bit, maybe some that are
obviously just remarks, some that maybe we can talk about
before this thing ends. So I don't know if you
remember me talking about when I was in the movie theater,
because El Segundo, where the studio is, where I live,

(44:01):
where you used to live, they opened a new movie
theater here what in the Gundo? In the Gundo, it's
an old movie theater, but they've just redone it and
they reopened it. Their whole thing is just all kind
of luxury seats. And I don't know if you know
what screen xes. No screen X is where they project

(44:24):
the picture on the screen in front of you. But
also on the walls on the side. Oh sweet, so
action sequences stuffite, Like, it's not the entire movie, but
you know, let's say, forty percent of the movie or
whatever is on the side, so you know, it's kind
of cool, kind of immerses you in it, kind of
annoying for a minute, but you kind of get used

(44:44):
to it. And we went and saw Captain America. We
talked about it a while back when I was sitting
next to talking about our most annoying things that have
happened to movie theaters. And my most annoying thing that
happened with someone eating an apple next to me in
a movie theater and not one apple, but two apples, right,

(45:05):
And I thought there was just that there's just some
things that you just cannot like because popcorn is loud too,
but that's accepted in the movie theater and apples different. Yeah,
I've found out the counter to the apple eater in
the movie theater. What is it? Take anything or ahead

(45:26):
of time? Eat anything, garlic, eat a lot of garlic,
get garlic fries, go to happy hour, which is what
we did, and get a bunch of garlic.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Love garlic fries.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Exactly, or just anything garlic. I love it all. And
then go to your movie theater and no one will
be they will move, or they will shut up the
entire time just because you stink. Yeah. I mean, if
they're lucky enough to have their own garlic, they'll be fine.
But no, So you know, a little movie theater tip

(46:01):
for you.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
There no one was sitting near you.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, and just in case you were wondering, Captain America.
Yeah yeah, Well, next time you're in turks and kekos
uh huh, and you're viewing sharks and turtles and you're
on the docks with probably some pretty awesome looking water
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I want to take just a couple of like Instagram
or a couple of videos maybe to post Instagram. Yeah,
like just like that, Like what why aren't these on
the Instagram? Just going like this is like what you
could do stories on these things? You just just the
just the boat, like you know, crashing through the little waves,

(46:45):
you know, just a little video of that. Yeah, like
why aren't these going on the Instagram? Crazy?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I don't want it to look like I'm having too
much of a good time on a job that I'm
not getting pictures.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Be like, where's Jedi. You know, Jedi's fucking journeys exactly,
No fucking Marx Journeys. There's a fucking burn zone. Bro.
Oh yeah, Michael Bay is a blowhard.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
What's he done now?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I don't know, just look at his Instagram. So he's
always a fucking blow hard. Sorry, save the best for last.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
We have the first female space mission. Oh yes, and
it's a space okay, the first celebrity space mission. Okay.
Out of all the celebrities, celebrity females, celebrity women that
are out there, I'm not even just gonna I'm not
even gonna call them females. I'm gonna call the women.
Because the strong, capable, you know, really hard working women

(47:45):
out there in this world that would love to go
to space. I follow one of them. Doctor Amber Strawn, astrophysicist,
hiker pilot, Pearl jam Fan Great Dane, mom of Arkansas.
She's a super brilliant, super smart woman who all she

(48:07):
does is report on astronomy and space and shit like that. Right,
not her, She's not going to space. Instead, we have
Gail King yep, Katie Perry yep, and my personal friend

(48:32):
I haven't talked to in many years.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Lauren Sanchez, Laurence Sanchez, Jeff the Future, Missus Bezos.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
The future Missus Bezos is going to space with her
two best pals. It makes me very jealous, Jedi, Yeah,
because you know, this girl was coming into my golf
course looking for sugar Daddy's.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
I remember, I remember you talking about this.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Just about twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
And when she landed the biggest fish out of them all,
I thought that was enough. But then when I hear
she's going to space with these other people, just makes
me very jealous of how I handled my life, but
also just kind of makes me angry that there are
these women that would probably love to go up to space,
even though it's on Jeff Bezos's giant dildo Blue Origin,

(49:25):
Blue Origin. Yeah, And it's gonna just, honestly, when this
thing launches and you think that there are three girls
in there just partying it up in the tip of
the giant dildo, it's gonna be just hilarious. The you know,
I hope a lot of people pull some memes out
of that one.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Oh, I'm sure there'll be plenty.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's unfair, and I think Jeff Bezos should have maybe
gone a different route with that one. And these girls
are definitely not deserving of its space walking or anything.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
But whatever, he has scent like deserving people up in
the past though, right, he's already done that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I think.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
So.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I mean, we obviously heard about the first people that
went up there here and there. It was some old guys,
there was some you know, Shatna went up, Shatner went up, Yeah,
stuff like that, but we haven't heard any I'm sure
he's done you know, a dozen or two dozen launches
since then, we haven't heard. So maybe there are some
women who have gone up there. Yeah, but I follow

(50:23):
this one. Maybe she has been up I don't know, maybe,
but I don't see it on her Instagram, so I
don't think so. But I follow this one. I see
what she does for communication between normal people and space
and NASA and keeping the whole ball going. Maybe that's
why maybe she's uh, because she's NASA. She can't do that, right,

(50:44):
She's got to ride up on a NASA rocket. That's
what it is.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
It's political, there you go.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, I definitely look forward to seeing our three deserving
women heading up in Blue Origin. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I always like a space launch.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I guess we'll call it on this one. For myself
and for Jedi Hello, and for all the Academy Award
winners out there that we care so much about.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, you know what, hopefully there's some good pat pictures
tonight of these people getting drunk and eating in and
out burgers and leaving their oscars behind. Look forward to
seeing those in the morning.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Thank you people for listening, and take care and be well.
We love you.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Come back.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
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Speaker 1 (51:43):
Okay, this looks so weird with my feet behind my head.
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