October 16, 2025 • 54 mins
You walk down a familiar street, and suddenly, the cars are gone, the clothes are wrong, and you're staring into the 1950s. This is the time slip phenomenon. In this sho, we forget the Hollywood rules and delve into the real-world claims of temporal displacement. We chronicle famous, meticulously documented cases like the Vanishing Hotel of France and the legendary Ghosts of Versailles, where witnesses found themselves accidentally plunged into the past. Are these shared delusions, intense psychological events, or genuine moments where the spacetime continuum frayed just enough for a glimpse of history? We balance these chilling eyewitness accounts with the theoretical science of wormholes and the cosmic absurdity of the Bootstrap Paradox. If you’ve ever felt like time was not a line, but a fabric, then tune in—the past is waiting.
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I'll never get over that. That song is awesome. Hey, yeah,
tonight it's just gonna be me, uh, like I put
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in the chat room there. Jason is going to be
off tonight and he should be back with us on Saturday.
So tonight we're gonna be talking about time slips. Time slips.
I hope everybody is is ready to talk about some
time slips. You know, it's funny because in the paranormal world,
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I think that this also happens. I think it has
been documented in the paranormal world on many occasions. Thank
you for that. He's he is feeling better. He's just
going to take the night off just to try to
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make sure he's feeling better for Saturday show. So everybody,
thanks for your prayers and and thoughts and and everything,
and and so he's got to go to the heart
doctor on Friday, so we'll find out, he said. Talking
to him to day and went to eat lunch with
him today, and he said that he is feeling a
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lot better. So that's good. Hey, Michelle, how are you? Oh?
You love? Oh? You have some stories in our area
about time slips. Now this is interesting. That's pretty cool.
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So we are gonna be talking about time slips, so
buckle up and get ready. People are texting me now, well,
that's fine, that's crazy. My wife texts men said that
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right now, I look like one of those old Chinese movies,
like I wanna fight like me. I'm sorry. I don't
know what's causing it. We will have to try to
figuregure that out at some point. I would think it
would have something to do with what latencyre lag somewhere
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got two from uh from the from the same guy.
It's funny, huh. I was noticing it the other day. Oh,
Benjamin says, it's right that she's right. I'm sorry. Everybody, Well,
hopefully you could hear me. What's up Jason. There's Jason.
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He's in the uh in the chat room. Everybody say
hi to Jason. Uh. Yeah, Well, I have to figure
out what's going on with the with the lag or
something in this thing for for me to look like I'm,
you know, in a in an old movie. So you
walk down a familiar street, then suddenly all the cars
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are gone, the clothes that people are wearing just don't
seem right. Then you realize, looks like it's the fifties.
Now this is the time slip phenomenon. We're gonna delve
into some real world claims of temporal displacement. We're gonna
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chronicle some famous, meticulously documented cases like the Vanishing Hotel
of France and the legendary Ghost of Versilis, where witnesses
find themselves accidentally plunged into the past. Now these are
shared delusions or maybe intense psychological events. Maybe there are
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genuine moments where the space time continuum frayed just enough
for a glimpse of the history. Now we balance these
chilling eyewitness accounts with the theoretical science of wormholes, the
cosmic absurdity of the bootstrap paradox. Now, if you've ever
felt like time was not a straight line but a fabric, well,
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the past is waiting. Hey, Jason Finch, it's not real,
not real bad. Well that's good. It's not real bad,
but it's bad. So you know, forward time travel is
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not a fantasy. It is a fundamental, proven consequence of
Einstein's theories of relativity. Now, according to special theory of relativity,
time is not an absolute universal constant, but it is
instead a relative to the observer's speed. Right, so they've
measured this by setting an atomic clock on the Earth
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and then having one on a jet, and then when
it gets somewhere, they're usually milliseconds off from each other,
and so they do know that this that this works. Now,
this effect, known as time dilation, means that the faster
and object moves, the slower time actually passes for that
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object relative to slower moving observers. So while the effect
is negligible at everyday speeds, it becomes increasingly pronounced as
one approaches the ultimate speed of the cosmos, the speed
of light. So if a person was on boarder spaceship
and they were capable of sustaining ninety nine point nine
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percent of the speed of light for a year, upon
their return to Earth, they would find that many decades
or even maybe centuries had passed, effectively making them travel
into the future. Now, this concept is fairly further reinforced
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by Einstein's theory of relativity, and this demonstrates that gravity
also warps and slows down time. So there's a phenomenon
called gravitational time dilation, so clocks tack slightly slower near
massive objects than they do far away. Now, this is
not just theoretical, it is a measurable effect that engineers
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must account for when designing satellite navigation systems like GPS's.
It's because these satellites are moving fast and are further
away from the earth center of gravity and than what
the ground receivers actually have, so their clocks experience time
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at a slightly different rate. So without constant corrections based
on both velocity and gravitational effects, a GPS system would
quickly become inaccurate. Proving that the principles of forward time
travel are woven into the fabric of our everyday lives.
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What is that ghostbuster symbol with the white ghosts in
the red circle? Now, While we yet do not possess
the technology for extreme velocity travel to jump centuries into
the future, the principle is universally accepted within the scientific
community that traveling into the future is a matter of
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practical engineering, not scientific impossibility. So every second, we are
all traveling into the future at a rate of one
second per second, but extreme velocity or massive gravity offers
a shortcut. So therefore, any true time machine would most
likely be a super efficient spacecraft capable of accelerating close
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to the speed of light, and it ensures that it's
occupant outpaces the passage of time for everyone else in
the universe. Oh, youre going to what you say? Would Einstein?
I think? Was it? Theory is related to the same
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theory of a black hole. That would be a lot
of where we're talking about the gravity, Yeah, because that's
what would happen in the black hole, time dilation due
to the gravity of the black hole. Yeah. So, so
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I'm used to having Jason here so I can actually
we made up time so I could read all these
and talk to you guys at the same time. So
backwards time travel poses a immense theoretical challenge. Now this
relies on exotic physics and extreme cosmic structures that may
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or may not exist. Now, this possibility is only suggested
by certain complex solutions. Einstein's general theory of relativity, and
it describes a radically warped space time. Now. Key among
these are concepts like wormholes or Einstein rosenbridges, which are
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hypothesized tunnels through space time that could theoretically connect two
distant points in space or, if manipulated, two different points
in time. Now. The creation and stabilization of a traversible wormhole, however,
would require immense amounts of mass or negative elect or
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energy density, which has never been observed in bulk and
may violate fundamental energy conditions. So there's another theoretical pathway
that involves the creation of closed timelink or curves, which
are called CTCs. Now, these are space time paths that
loop back on themselves, allowing an object following them to
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return to an early point in its own history. Now,
physicists Kurt Goebel demonstrated a mathematical solution to general relativity
that described a universe where ctc's were possible, though his
model required a universe filled with rotating matter, which doesn't
match our own expanding cosmos. But despite this, the mathematical
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possibility keeps the door open, adjusting that if the laws
of possibility and physics are manipulated under extreme conditions such
as a round rapidly spinning black holes. Right, So, like
what you was talking about a second ago, black holes
or cosmic strings, a mechanism for reversing the flow of
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time might theoretically emerge. So the very concept of a
time machine in the backward sense forces physicists to confront
the deepest laws of nature and the ultimate source of
the one way nature of time. Now, the renowned physicist
Stephen Hawking proposed the chronologically protection conjecture, which posits that
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the law of physics are designed to prevent time travel
to the past, thereby protecting casually and preventing paradoxes from
ever arising. So, this conjecture suggests that the attempt to
create a time machine would be thwarted by an unavoidable
feedback of vacuum energy or other quantum phenomena, causing the
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device to fail just before it achieves its goal. Pretty interesting, right,
So there's more popular and rest restrictive resolutions in this,
and it's the many world's interpretation, which we've talked about
on this show before, or the concept of the multiverse. Now,
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this theory holds that every time and potentially paradix event
occurs the timeline splits. So if you go back and
shoot your grandfather, you have merely killed a version of
him in a new branch, right, Because you know, a
lot of people will talk about the grandfather paradox. If
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you go back in time and you kill your grandfather
by accident or something like that, or your great grandfather,
then it's going to kill you. But they're actually starting
to walk that back because they're saying that if you
do go back in time, more than likely it's not
on your timeline. It's a completely separate timeline. So let's
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talk about time slips now. So these are distinct from
the scientific pursuit of time travel. A time slip is
a term that's used to describe the alleged, spontaneous and
involuntary personal experience of bri slit briefly perceiving we're entering
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a past era. Now, what's neat about this is that
there's tons of these stories. What are you saying, Yeah,
I think that in the paranormal they can do these
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kinds of things from one point to one gig ups.
I'll think that, like I said earlier, you know, these
have been documented in some instances of the paranormal. And
I'll make it an example. You're in there filming doing whatever,
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and all of a sudden you see a spirit and
you're like, whoa, you know, there's a spirit right there. Well,
it sees you and does the same thing. Whoa, you know,
there's a spirit there, and it like runs. It's almost
like you're the ghost to what we are perceiving as
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a ghost, but to them, you're the ghost. So is
that a time slip? Are you slipping time just a
little bit to where that thing is perceiving you as
being in their time, but at the same time you're
perceiving them as being in your time. That's kind of
where some of that, you know, comes in at. And
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we'll talk about some experiences and some things here in
a minute that people have had that are much crazier
than that. And I've heard stories after stories after stories
on time slips such as, I don't know, it's a
really interesting phenomena, That's what it is. It's a phenomenon.
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So now these episodes are characterized as glitches in reality
now where the present environment suddenly morphs into a scene
from the past. Witnesses often describe seeing people in a
period clothing, hearing old sounds, or observing buildings that no
longer exist before the scene kind of snaps back to
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its present, to where you are at the time you're
looking at it, which leaves the person that's seeing this
has kind of disoriented. They're shaking a little bit now.
These accounts have often localized to historically rich areas. They
do not involve any machine or any intent. They are
simply accidental snags in the continuum. Hello, baby girl, how
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you doing. Let's see what is see? This even could
connect to the silence people experience in nature. We may
be able to jump in between realms and encounter these phenomena,
and the phenomena encounter us just like you said. Yes, absolutely,
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I think so. I think it's possible. How's that? I
think anytime we decide that things aren't possible is you know,
we're hurting ourselves, especially if you're researching. You know. One
of the most widely reported examples is the Moberly Jordan incident,
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and this happened at the Palace of Versailles in nineteen
oh one. So two English women, Charlotte Moberly and Eleanor Jordan,
claim to have suddenly encountered various figures in the eighteenth
century attire and peculiar atmosphere of stillness. While exploring the
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Petite Tranyon grounds, Moberley even claimed to have seen a
woman sketch, whom she later identified as Marie Antoinette. Now
they're published, account fuelled decades of doubt, with proponents suggesting
a genuine temporal displacement but critics arguing that they had
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a shared delusion. How many times have we heard stuff
like that, miss interpretations of costumed guests or the results
of intense historically and suggestibility. I don't know. I think
that some of those could be a possibility, But I
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think in nineteen oh one, you know, these people would
have known if someone was walking around in period clothing
just acting. Some skeptical explanations for these occurrences tend to
favor psychology and neuroscience over physics. Many scientists and psychologists psychologists,
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Why can't I say psycholog right? Psychologists suggest that time
slips are likely intense forms of cognitive error or hallucinations
that's often brought on by factors like extreme fatigue, environmental stressors,
or a brain malfunction. So, for instance, the feeling could
be an intense form of deja vus, where a flawed
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in brain's processing causes the present moment to be inaccurately
filed as an old memory. The brain then attempts to
rationalize the memory by fabricating the surrounding historical details. I've
had deja vu. Yes, thank you, he needs them, Jason says,
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swamp gas. So everybody paranorm a four one one official.
That's Jason in the chat room. There So, in some
urban legends, unusual environmental factors are cited as a possible cause. So,
for example, some have speculated that time slips reported in
Liverpool's Bold Street might be linked to powerful electromagnetic fields
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generated by the underground rail network running directly beneath it.
While there is research suggesting that localized electromagnetic fields can
induce mild psychological effects, which include hallucinations, there are no
direct casual link that has ever been established between these
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fields and the complex, vivid and highly detailed historical scenarios
described by time slip witnesses. Ultimately, time slips remain a
fascinating point where human psychology intersects with the profound mystery
of time. Now yes, Jason is going to be back
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Saturday and he's going to be doing a show, and
I want to sit over there in that chair and
I'm just gonna chat with all of y'all and he's
going to do the whole show by himself. We're going
to get into some some of these cases now, So
we're going to start off with the Ghost of Versilas.
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So it's going to be it's going to be pretty
much talking about what we was just talking about. So
the Moberley Jordan incident is probably one of the most
famous and extensively documented claims of a time slipping history. Now.
This happened on August tenth, nineteen oh one. Two English academics,
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Charlotte and Moberly and Eleanor Jordan, were visiting the Palace
of Versilas in France. They became lost while attempting to
find the Petite trananon a small chateau on the grounds.
So as they wandered into a quiet, heavily wooded area
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near Marie Antoinette's private estate, they both reported a sudden
overwhelming sense of gloom, oppression, and stillness, as if the
natural sounds had been muffled by the very atmosphere, and
it had changed very dramatically. The colors of the scene
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seemed to flatten, and the area on the quality of
a tapestry or a photograph. Isn't that crazy? So as
they preceded, the environment and the people within it began
to conform to a much earlier period. They encountered several
figures in clothing from the late eighteenth century. They described
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seeing a woman and a young girl at a cottage door,
which she felt resembled the Tableau viviante, which was a
living picture, but she saw the scene as vividly real. Now. Moberly,
a principle at an Oxford College, had in even more
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chilling experience. She reported seeing a man with smallpox scars
near a kiosk, whose expression was really repulsive, and who
wore a cloak and a large shadowy hat. Is that
a hat man? So crucially, Moberly also claimed to see
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an elegant lady sketching on the lawn, whom she later,
after researching portraits, became convinced was none other than the
ill fated Queen Marie Antoinette. Cue the spooky music. Now.
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The true mystery emerged when the two women compared their
notes and later tried to retrace their steps. Now, while
they shared the feeling of profound unease at the presence
of period figures, their individual memories of the specific people
and events differed. Now this suggests a highly subjective experience. Furthermore,
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upon revisiting the grounds on subsequent days, they could not
locate the exact path the odd kiosk or the old
bridge and cottage they had both walked past, finding only
modern parkland. It appeared the historical landscape they had briefly
experienced had vanished. Hello, Weddy Now. Their conviction led them
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to publish their account in nineteen eleven under the pseudonyms
Morrison and Lamont, titling the book and a ure The
meticulous detail in the women's reputations as academics gave the
story immediate notoriety. Now, skeptics have said numerous rational explanations,
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including they had a shared delusion, misinterpretation of a fancy
dress party or a garden re enactment staged by the aristocrats,
or it was a result of simple confusion and suggestion
during a hot, tiring day. Now, however, the precise correspondence
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of some minor architectural details they reported with historical records
are not available to the public at the time, which
has continued to fuel the belief that they stumbled into
an echo or a brief physical remanifestation of Versilas as
it was just before the French before the French Revolution.
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I can't speak tonight, a mouthstrive. I need some water.
I didn't bring them. So there's a story like this
from Australia where went through this but came out a
later date. This makes you wonder these people have disappeared,
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have encountered this book, can't come back. I think that
you're right about that, Stephen, for sure, because I think
that you know, we was at Eddies for something. I
think it was Matt Sieber a long time ago. Did
a had his group there that was talking bigfoot and stuff.
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But a guy was over there talking to us, and
I actually got Matt Seber to come over there to
to listen to the guy's story because he told a
story about that. He he said, Now, I guess we
could say it's something like that, right. What ended up
happening was was he he told us that he was
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going out to go hunting and he stopped at the
same place all the time, walked the same path to
go to where he went and hunted. And as he
was walking, he just kept walking and walking and never
got back to where he was supposed to be, and
just kept walking and was wondering, you know, what the
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heck is going on? And about the time he was
going to give up, he come across on top of
this hill and he looked down and saw his vehicle
sitting in the in the place where he parked it.
Somehow he walked straight ahead but wound up back behind him.
And he said that he had missing time when it all,
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when it was all said and done. Pretty interesting stuff,
if you ask me. And I think that at some point,
I mean, things like this does happen. And like you said, Steven,
I think that there's a lot of times where maybe
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these missing people are stuff like that. You know, I
keep saying this, and I've said it for years, But
we're slowly put together a book and have done it
for been doing it for years and years. But sometimes
these kinds of books are hard to put together. But
it's almost on that what you was talking about, you know,
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the fact that I believe that the past or the
future you know seeds the past is seeding the past.
These people that are that come up missing here Flight nineteen,
just all these different things end up being somehow put
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back into the past. And this is gives why a
lot of these older civilizations knew so much about the stars,
because you just look at this. What's a pilot have
to know if all of his instruments fail, he has
to know how to navigate by landmarks and by the stars.
The same thing with a boat captain. Right, So he
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goes missing out of from you to Triangle or any
of these other places like that, they disappear. Well, they've
also are very well, you know, first with the stars
and so, and in order to try to figure out
where they are and what and how to get back home.
They may almost start a cult looking at the stars.
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So I don't know, it's it's it's interesting, very very interesting.
Uh maybe I don't know. He was at Legends and Lores,
So if he goes to deeed a Legends and Lore Stephen,
it may be the same guy. Maybe. So case number two, Yeah,
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it's the best. I mean, it's the best way you
know your landmarks, pick out landmarks and know the stars.
So case number two is the case of the Vanishing hotel.
So this is a modern time slipped and it's characterized
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by a couple's shared experience and the mysterious disappearance of
a physical evidence. So the most frequently cited version of
this story centers on an American couple sometimes named the
Hellings or Simpson Parkers, who were driving through rural France
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in nineteen seventy nine that were on their way to
a motor race. Now they've became lost in a remote
area and seeking shelter for the night, stumbled upon an antiquated,
charmingly old fashioned hotel that seemingly belonged to a much
earlier era. Now they decided to stay, noting the strangely
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cheap price and the unusual odds styled decor and the
lack of modern amenities. Now during their overnight stay, the
couple reported that all the staff were dressed in outdated
uniforms and had a strangely subdued formal manner to them. Now.
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The room itself was decorated in a style reminiscent of
the Edwardian or Bell Epic period, and the beds were
tall and antique. Now they spent a comfortable night, paid
their bill, which was very low, and continued their journey
to the next morning. They took several photographs of the
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hotel's distinctive interior with a polaroid camera as a souvenir
of their odd but pleasant experience. Now, these strange events
only become apparent when the couple arrived at their final destination,
and upon reviewing the photographs, they discovered the pictures they
took of the hotel were missing from the rule or
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they had simply failed to develop. Now, they only left
blank squares where the hotel should have been, So this
kind of raised their suspicion, But you know the reality
of the place they had just stayed. Even the luggage
stickers they had received seemed to have vanished or dissolved.
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So convinced they had experienced something extraordinary, the couple attempted
to find the hotel on their return journey, hoping to
collect their lost evidence. Now, despite particulously retracing their route
and asking locals, they could not locate the hotel or
even the on which it was situated. There were no
local records that matched the description of this building, and
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no one recalled an establishment fitting the hotel's unusual characteristics
in that area. Now, the only tangible evidence they retained
was the inexplicable gap in their memory of finding the
place and the absence of the photographs, leading to the
speculation that they had momentarily occupied a hotel from a
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bygone decade that existed only as an echo. I've heard
that story, Michelle says, I would just want to stay
there forever. Yes, yes, the stairs is the biggest thing
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I've taught them. Yeah, for the stars, I mean, yeah,
it's so Michelle would stay there. I don't know what
if it was like I watched a movie a long
time ago now that it was kind of a horror movie.
It was a rated, really bad rated beam a horror movie,
but it was almost a time slip thing like these
guys I don't even remember the name of it, but
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they time slipped accidentally into this alternate dimension or something
where these terrible beings and stuff lived. But then every
so Beny, I don't remember how long it was, but
I guess in the real world it was quite a
few years. They can slip back in. I have to
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try to remember the name of that movie. It was weird,
and I watched it. It had to be twenty plus
years ago probably, so it was crazy. So the third
case that we're going to talk about is Liverpool Bold
Street glitches. So now the alleged time slips on Bold
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Street in Liverpool, England a reoccurring localized phenomenon, often reported
over several decades by multiple unconnected witnesses. Now, this busy street,
known for its mix of modern shops and Victorian architecture,
has become infamous for its purported temporal anomalies. Now the
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accounts generally follow a pattern. An individual is walking down
the street in the present day when the surroundings just
kind of shift, with the modern streetscape replacing by a
scene from the past. Now it's typically somewhere from the
forties of the fifties. One of the most widely reported
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incidents involved a former police officer named Frank, who was
waiting for his wife near a book shop in the
nineteen nineties. Now he claims that the modern street scene
suddenly dissolved in the street was filled with old fashioned
cars and people and clothing from the middle of the
twentieth century. He was able to look directly through a
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crowd to see a shop sign that belonged to a
business that had been defunct for decades. He experienced a
profound physical disorientation before the present day reality snapped back
into focus left him sitting there and shaking. Another account
involves a woman who was shopping on Bold Street and
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walked past a branch of a bank. As she glanced
at the buildings, she claims the modern frontage was momentarily
replaced by much older, darker exterior. Even more strikingly, she
reported saw a horse drawn carriage pass by before the
image flickered and was replaced by a stream of modern traffic. Now,
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these incidents are notable because they are not confined to
a single person, but have been recounted by various people
who were unaware of the streets. Procure your rep reputation.
It's pretty crazy right now. Explanations for the Bold Street
anomalies often focus on genealogical or infrastructural characteristics. Some theories
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suggest that the phenomenon could be related to the presence
of an old underground railway or the unique convergence of
fault lines beneath the city, which might somehow act as
a focus for unknown energies or temporal distortions. I was
kind of thinking something along that line, something along the
line of you know, lay lines or something. Maybe I
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don't know them. Now, while skeptics point to the power
of urban legend or shared delusions or simply a memory
in perception errors, how often do you have just that
kind of perception error? I don't think I could I
could ever say that I have ever walked down on
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the road and saw something like that. I don't know.
To me, it's that's that's just idiotic. The regularity and
the similarity of the unconnected accounts have cemented Bold Street's
reputation as a genuine, though unexplained hotspot for time slip activity.
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We're gonna have to go there, Hey, Martin, how you doing? So?
Number four the mystery of Sergey as a Ukrainian time traveler. So, now,
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this is more akin to time traveling experience than a
classical time slip, but it is a compelling modern urban
legend due to its photographic evidence and official documentation. Now,
the incident allegedly occurred on April twenty third, two thousand
and six, in Kiev, Ukraine, when a man in oddly
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vintage clothes and carrying an old fashioned camera was found
wandering the streets, was appearing very confused and disoriented. When
questioned by the police, the man, who identified himself as Sergei,
insisted he was born in nineteen thirty two and that
it was the year nineteen fifty eight. Now, upon searching him,
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authorities found his Soviet era documents, which were authentic for
the fifties, so showed him at the age of twenty five.
He was taken to a psychiatric clinic for examination by
a psychiatrist, doctor Pavlo. During the interview, which was reportedly recorded,
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he claimed that he was taking photographs with his fiancee
when he saw a strength, large bell shaped object which
he believed to be a UFO, and he attempted to
photograph it, and then he somehow was transported to the
year two thousand and six. Now, the most bizarre piece
of evidence came from the antique film camera he carried.
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The police and the photography expert successfully developed the film.
They found these images of nineteen fifties Kiev, as well
as a picture of him and his fiance. Crucially, one
photograph was one of a UFO like object he had described.
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Investigators later tracked down the fiance, which was now an
elderly woman in her seventies, and she confirmed that her
fiance Sergei, had vanished mysteriously in nineteen fifty eight. She
even produced a photograph allegedly said to her by him
from the future of showing an older version of him
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against a futuristic Kyev skyline. Now, that's interesting. What's interesting
about that is that that would be a lot of
the same though. That would be a time slip, but
that would be a time slip where he obviously slipped
and never went back. So what do you think about that? Everybody?
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What do you think about the time slips? Do you
think they're real? Do you think they're people's imaginations. I've
heard a lot of people. Yeah, I've seen that that
picture go around a lot, which is kind of neat
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where people. I don't know if everybody sees that. But
what about the guy that was supposedly pictured in the
fifties or sixties with the today's iPhone. I think it's possible.
I think that these things happen. What would be the
hardest part is that if something like that was caught,
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would be to distinguish between is it a time traveler
or is it someone slipping accidentally in time. I think
that'd be the hardest part to try to figure out.
Only the person that's done the slipping would know. I guess, huh,
if it was accidental or not anybody else want to
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talk about it for a minute. I find time slips
and things like this really fascinating because, yeah, I think
you're right, Steven. I think it could be both, and
they are along the same lines. Maybe one is you know,
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of course, time travel, if we was able to be
able to do it. I think that it's definitely very
possible that we probably already do it, but that that
would be intentional, and then the other would be just natural.
And what's funny is that science says that anything that
we can conceive nature can do it without us, So
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it doesn't even need us to be in the mix
to be able to do it. So, like I said,
you know earlier, I think that that's what happens with
a lot of these airplanes that go up missing and
they've never found anything. Ships that go missing and they've
never found them. Sometimes ships come back with nobody on board.
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You know, there was nothing in the log showing that
they had any problems. Right, the ship is still perfectly intact.
It's some crazy things that happen on this planet, and
we're pretty far from figuring them out for sure. But
time slips is one of those things that when you
really look into it and you really talk about it,
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it makes you start thinking about stuff like that. Unfortunately,
there are those that passed through and unable to come
back right right. That's the thing, though, is that, you know,
I think that there's times where you can have these
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time slips because I've seen or I've listened to other
things on time slips, and one of them was a
host and I don't want to say his name, but
he has a pretty popular show, and he talked about
driving his car trying to go home and took a
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turn and all of a sudden, things completely changed. All
the cars on the road turned into like nineteen fifties
cars and everything, and he drove for a little bit
and then then it went away and everything came back
to the way it was, And so you know, he
believes that he went into a time slip. For sure. Yes,
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Nature will reclaim us. All that's a fact in one
way or another. Nature is the ultimate when it comes
to that stuff and deciding our fate in a lot
of ways too, I think, what do you think? But
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very very interesting subject, for sure. I wanted to let
everybody also know. See was it just curious? Did you
experience anything like this when you had your big foot encounter?
While driving? There are some small amount of counters with
time slips, Benjamin Baty says, Amelia Earhart. Maybe an example,
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to my knowledge, they've never found her plane. Time travel
is a possibility. And there's another one. Right, Flight nineteen
was one, and the same thing, Amelia Earhart. They've never
found her plane. They swear that that they're going to
find it and that she has to be somewhere here,
but they've never found their plane. The same thing with
flight nineteen, right, same thing happened. All those men that
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were flying those planes and very accomplished pilots, guess what,
never found them. But when I saw Bigfoot, I do
not recall it looking any different. But you got to
think it was on I ninety up in uh, you know, Washington.
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So you're out in the middle of nowhere, and then
there's no cars inside because it was eleven o'clock at night.
Ben could tell you that place becomes a ghost town.
Nine ninety anywhere on nine ninety, but not about ten
eleven o'clock at night. You ain't seeing nobody. Very rare
to see cars and even other trucks. A lot of
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them are gone by that time. I think the jury
is still out. I'm out here breaking generational Well, that's good.
That's how we get enlightened, you know, we we just
got to do that. Yeah. They you see these things
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all the time where they think that they have found
a plane and then they'll start running numbers of parts
of the plane that they find and none of them
end up matching. Because I know that they've they've said
it multiple times of where they have they knew the
path of flight nineteen very well. I mean all the
way up to the time that they disappeared. They were
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talking you know, on the radios to UH to the
to the base and everything, and they've never found their planes.
That was dying planes. When the spotter plane went went
up to go find them. After they disappeared, the spotter
plane and the nine people in that plane disappeared, and
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one of the largest man hunts were was sent out
by the Navy and they never found even wreckage of
a plane. So I was ten planes in total just
gone disappeared. And then you have Native Americans that talk
about these big thunderbirds come over, and you wonder would
that be an airplane, because that would be a very
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loud bird, right aw, especially if it's coming over you.
So I don't know, it's it's interesting, it's interesting. I
just want to let everybody know that October went through
a timeportal. It is possible, I really think so, just
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like some planes disappear then run into a mountain or
a hill all of a sudden, right right, No, I
mean that's that's true. I mean, who's to say that
sometimes these things that when these planes just disappear and
then they'll find them on the side of a mountain
that it wasn't you know, it wasn't that kind of
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a thing, because you know, there was that one guy
I forgot his name, but he had that he calls
it the electric or fog or green fog or something
like that, that happened to him in Florida. He said
he went up as a normal day up in this cessna.
I think he said that it was a supposed to
be like a one hour flight to wherever it was
he was going. He went up, went through this fog
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stuff that he said it was rotating kind of like
a vorte. And when he came out the other side,
he was already to his destination and he hadn't been
up for you know, ten to fifteen minutes, and he
was like, how did I get so far in such
a short amount of time. It's supposed to have taken
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me this much time. And even when he landed, he
had more fuel on his plane than what he normally
would have to make that same run. So I think
there's some pretty pretty crazy things that happens in this world.
Be neat if we had more explanations. I think our
government does, but they don't want to tell. October twenty third,
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Jason and I are going to be at the O'Connor
Senior Centers in Knoxville, Tennessee, at two pm giving a talk.
If you're off that Thursday, because it is going to
be on a Thursday, come down and talk with us.
We're going to be talking about the paranormal and in
a one hour lecture. Yep, that's another coincidence. Yeah, it's true. Also,
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on October twenty fifth, we're gonna be in downtown Loudon
at the Misfits and Mayhem at two pm, so come
and join us. We should have most of our books
in at that point. I don't think our newest of
the new books will be in by that time. Jason
says maybe maybe not, so we'll have at least two
(51:33):
of the three books with us on that day, so
definitely come and join us for that. I want to
thank everybody for showing up tonight. I'm not Jason, so
I don't know where all the music stuff is. I
don't think maybe I do figuring this out, Hey, Thanky,
(52:10):
thank you everybody. Like I said, you know, Jason is
out tonight, but he will be back with us on
Saturday night, so we all I definitely am looking forward
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Jason'll be here coming up and I want to thank everybody.
Thanks everybody for popping in. Thank you Jason, thank you Steven,
thank you Andrea and all the other people, Michelle, all
the other people who were popped on here for a
while and hasn't really said too much, baby girl, and
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everybody else. I want to thank everybody. I hope you
enjoyed the show. It was fun putting it together. Jason
did a really good job at it. And so let's
see if I could take us out again. We will
see you on Saturday. Oh, hey, you know, we will
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definitely do it. Yeah, we will definitely do it. We
would have fun, all right, Jason, go up there and
investigate the Civil War hospital. That would be fun. We'd
love to do that. Absolutely. Thanks every every and y'all
have a good night, and we will see you Saturday.
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in the chat room there. Jason is going to be
off tonight and he should be back with us on Saturday.
So tonight we're gonna be talking about time slips. Time slips.
I hope everybody is is ready to talk about some
time slips. You know, it's funny because in the paranormal world,
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I think that this also happens. I think it has
been documented in the paranormal world on many occasions. Thank
you for that. He's he is feeling better. He's just
going to take the night off just to try to
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make sure he's feeling better for Saturday show. So everybody,
thanks for your prayers and and thoughts and and everything,
and and so he's got to go to the heart
doctor on Friday, so we'll find out, he said. Talking
to him to day and went to eat lunch with
him today, and he said that he is feeling a
(02:03):
lot better. So that's good. Hey, Michelle, how are you? Oh?
You love? Oh? You have some stories in our area
about time slips. Now this is interesting. That's pretty cool.
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So we are gonna be talking about time slips, so
buckle up and get ready. People are texting me now, well,
that's fine, that's crazy. My wife texts men said that
(02:46):
right now, I look like one of those old Chinese movies,
like I wanna fight like me. I'm sorry. I don't
know what's causing it. We will have to try to
figuregure that out at some point. I would think it
would have something to do with what latencyre lag somewhere
(03:07):
got two from uh from the from the same guy.
It's funny, huh. I was noticing it the other day. Oh,
Benjamin says, it's right that she's right. I'm sorry. Everybody, Well,
hopefully you could hear me. What's up Jason. There's Jason.
(03:28):
He's in the uh in the chat room. Everybody say
hi to Jason. Uh. Yeah, Well, I have to figure
out what's going on with the with the lag or
something in this thing for for me to look like I'm,
you know, in a in an old movie. So you
walk down a familiar street, then suddenly all the cars
(03:52):
are gone, the clothes that people are wearing just don't
seem right. Then you realize, looks like it's the fifties.
Now this is the time slip phenomenon. We're gonna delve
into some real world claims of temporal displacement. We're gonna
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chronicle some famous, meticulously documented cases like the Vanishing Hotel
of France and the legendary Ghost of Versilis, where witnesses
find themselves accidentally plunged into the past. Now these are
shared delusions or maybe intense psychological events. Maybe there are
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genuine moments where the space time continuum frayed just enough
for a glimpse of the history. Now we balance these
chilling eyewitness accounts with the theoretical science of wormholes, the
cosmic absurdity of the bootstrap paradox. Now, if you've ever
felt like time was not a straight line but a fabric, well,
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the past is waiting. Hey, Jason Finch, it's not real,
not real bad. Well that's good. It's not real bad,
but it's bad. So you know, forward time travel is
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not a fantasy. It is a fundamental, proven consequence of
Einstein's theories of relativity. Now, according to special theory of relativity,
time is not an absolute universal constant, but it is
instead a relative to the observer's speed. Right, so they've
measured this by setting an atomic clock on the Earth
(05:44):
and then having one on a jet, and then when
it gets somewhere, they're usually milliseconds off from each other,
and so they do know that this that this works. Now,
this effect, known as time dilation, means that the faster
and object moves, the slower time actually passes for that
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object relative to slower moving observers. So while the effect
is negligible at everyday speeds, it becomes increasingly pronounced as
one approaches the ultimate speed of the cosmos, the speed
of light. So if a person was on boarder spaceship
and they were capable of sustaining ninety nine point nine
(06:27):
percent of the speed of light for a year, upon
their return to Earth, they would find that many decades
or even maybe centuries had passed, effectively making them travel
into the future. Now, this concept is fairly further reinforced
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by Einstein's theory of relativity, and this demonstrates that gravity
also warps and slows down time. So there's a phenomenon
called gravitational time dilation, so clocks tack slightly slower near
massive objects than they do far away. Now, this is
not just theoretical, it is a measurable effect that engineers
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must account for when designing satellite navigation systems like GPS's.
It's because these satellites are moving fast and are further
away from the earth center of gravity and than what
the ground receivers actually have, so their clocks experience time
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at a slightly different rate. So without constant corrections based
on both velocity and gravitational effects, a GPS system would
quickly become inaccurate. Proving that the principles of forward time
travel are woven into the fabric of our everyday lives.
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What is that ghostbuster symbol with the white ghosts in
the red circle? Now, While we yet do not possess
the technology for extreme velocity travel to jump centuries into
the future, the principle is universally accepted within the scientific
community that traveling into the future is a matter of
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practical engineering, not scientific impossibility. So every second, we are
all traveling into the future at a rate of one
second per second, but extreme velocity or massive gravity offers
a shortcut. So therefore, any true time machine would most
likely be a super efficient spacecraft capable of accelerating close
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to the speed of light, and it ensures that it's
occupant outpaces the passage of time for everyone else in
the universe. Oh, youre going to what you say? Would Einstein?
I think? Was it? Theory is related to the same
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theory of a black hole. That would be a lot
of where we're talking about the gravity, Yeah, because that's
what would happen in the black hole, time dilation due
to the gravity of the black hole. Yeah. So, so
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I'm used to having Jason here so I can actually
we made up time so I could read all these
and talk to you guys at the same time. So
backwards time travel poses a immense theoretical challenge. Now this
relies on exotic physics and extreme cosmic structures that may
(09:54):
or may not exist. Now, this possibility is only suggested
by certain complex solutions. Einstein's general theory of relativity, and
it describes a radically warped space time. Now. Key among
these are concepts like wormholes or Einstein rosenbridges, which are
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hypothesized tunnels through space time that could theoretically connect two
distant points in space or, if manipulated, two different points
in time. Now. The creation and stabilization of a traversible wormhole, however,
would require immense amounts of mass or negative elect or
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energy density, which has never been observed in bulk and
may violate fundamental energy conditions. So there's another theoretical pathway
that involves the creation of closed timelink or curves, which
are called CTCs. Now, these are space time paths that
loop back on themselves, allowing an object following them to
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return to an early point in its own history. Now,
physicists Kurt Goebel demonstrated a mathematical solution to general relativity
that described a universe where ctc's were possible, though his
model required a universe filled with rotating matter, which doesn't
match our own expanding cosmos. But despite this, the mathematical
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possibility keeps the door open, adjusting that if the laws
of possibility and physics are manipulated under extreme conditions such
as a round rapidly spinning black holes. Right, So, like
what you was talking about a second ago, black holes
or cosmic strings, a mechanism for reversing the flow of
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time might theoretically emerge. So the very concept of a
time machine in the backward sense forces physicists to confront
the deepest laws of nature and the ultimate source of
the one way nature of time. Now, the renowned physicist
Stephen Hawking proposed the chronologically protection conjecture, which posits that
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the law of physics are designed to prevent time travel
to the past, thereby protecting casually and preventing paradoxes from
ever arising. So, this conjecture suggests that the attempt to
create a time machine would be thwarted by an unavoidable
feedback of vacuum energy or other quantum phenomena, causing the
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device to fail just before it achieves its goal. Pretty interesting, right,
So there's more popular and rest restrictive resolutions in this,
and it's the many world's interpretation, which we've talked about
on this show before, or the concept of the multiverse. Now,
(12:56):
this theory holds that every time and potentially paradix event
occurs the timeline splits. So if you go back and
shoot your grandfather, you have merely killed a version of
him in a new branch, right, Because you know, a
lot of people will talk about the grandfather paradox. If
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you go back in time and you kill your grandfather
by accident or something like that, or your great grandfather,
then it's going to kill you. But they're actually starting
to walk that back because they're saying that if you
do go back in time, more than likely it's not
on your timeline. It's a completely separate timeline. So let's
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talk about time slips now. So these are distinct from
the scientific pursuit of time travel. A time slip is
a term that's used to describe the alleged, spontaneous and
involuntary personal experience of bri slit briefly perceiving we're entering
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a past era. Now, what's neat about this is that
there's tons of these stories. What are you saying, Yeah,
I think that in the paranormal they can do these
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kinds of things from one point to one gig ups.
I'll think that, like I said earlier, you know, these
have been documented in some instances of the paranormal. And
I'll make it an example. You're in there filming doing whatever,
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and all of a sudden you see a spirit and
you're like, whoa, you know, there's a spirit right there. Well,
it sees you and does the same thing. Whoa, you know,
there's a spirit there, and it like runs. It's almost
like you're the ghost to what we are perceiving as
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a ghost, but to them, you're the ghost. So is
that a time slip? Are you slipping time just a
little bit to where that thing is perceiving you as
being in their time, but at the same time you're
perceiving them as being in your time. That's kind of
where some of that, you know, comes in at. And
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we'll talk about some experiences and some things here in
a minute that people have had that are much crazier
than that. And I've heard stories after stories after stories
on time slips such as, I don't know, it's a
really interesting phenomena, That's what it is. It's a phenomenon.
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So now these episodes are characterized as glitches in reality
now where the present environment suddenly morphs into a scene
from the past. Witnesses often describe seeing people in a
period clothing, hearing old sounds, or observing buildings that no
longer exist before the scene kind of snaps back to
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its present, to where you are at the time you're
looking at it, which leaves the person that's seeing this
has kind of disoriented. They're shaking a little bit now.
These accounts have often localized to historically rich areas. They
do not involve any machine or any intent. They are
simply accidental snags in the continuum. Hello, baby girl, how
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you doing. Let's see what is see? This even could
connect to the silence people experience in nature. We may
be able to jump in between realms and encounter these phenomena,
and the phenomena encounter us just like you said. Yes, absolutely,
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I think so. I think it's possible. How's that? I
think anytime we decide that things aren't possible is you know,
we're hurting ourselves, especially if you're researching. You know. One
of the most widely reported examples is the Moberly Jordan incident,
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and this happened at the Palace of Versailles in nineteen
oh one. So two English women, Charlotte Moberly and Eleanor Jordan,
claim to have suddenly encountered various figures in the eighteenth
century attire and peculiar atmosphere of stillness. While exploring the
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Petite Tranyon grounds, Moberley even claimed to have seen a
woman sketch, whom she later identified as Marie Antoinette. Now
they're published, account fuelled decades of doubt, with proponents suggesting
a genuine temporal displacement but critics arguing that they had
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a shared delusion. How many times have we heard stuff
like that, miss interpretations of costumed guests or the results
of intense historically and suggestibility. I don't know. I think
that some of those could be a possibility, But I
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think in nineteen oh one, you know, these people would
have known if someone was walking around in period clothing
just acting. Some skeptical explanations for these occurrences tend to
favor psychology and neuroscience over physics. Many scientists and psychologists psychologists,
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Why can't I say psycholog right? Psychologists suggest that time
slips are likely intense forms of cognitive error or hallucinations
that's often brought on by factors like extreme fatigue, environmental stressors,
or a brain malfunction. So, for instance, the feeling could
be an intense form of deja vus, where a flawed
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in brain's processing causes the present moment to be inaccurately
filed as an old memory. The brain then attempts to
rationalize the memory by fabricating the surrounding historical details. I've
had deja vu. Yes, thank you, he needs them, Jason says,
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swamp gas. So everybody paranorm a four one one official.
That's Jason in the chat room. There So, in some
urban legends, unusual environmental factors are cited as a possible cause. So,
for example, some have speculated that time slips reported in
Liverpool's Bold Street might be linked to powerful electromagnetic fields
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generated by the underground rail network running directly beneath it.
While there is research suggesting that localized electromagnetic fields can
induce mild psychological effects, which include hallucinations, there are no
direct casual link that has ever been established between these
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fields and the complex, vivid and highly detailed historical scenarios
described by time slip witnesses. Ultimately, time slips remain a
fascinating point where human psychology intersects with the profound mystery
of time. Now yes, Jason is going to be back
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Saturday and he's going to be doing a show, and
I want to sit over there in that chair and
I'm just gonna chat with all of y'all and he's
going to do the whole show by himself. We're going
to get into some some of these cases now, So
we're going to start off with the Ghost of Versilas.
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So it's going to be it's going to be pretty
much talking about what we was just talking about. So
the Moberley Jordan incident is probably one of the most
famous and extensively documented claims of a time slipping history. Now.
This happened on August tenth, nineteen oh one. Two English academics,
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Charlotte and Moberly and Eleanor Jordan, were visiting the Palace
of Versilas in France. They became lost while attempting to
find the Petite trananon a small chateau on the grounds.
So as they wandered into a quiet, heavily wooded area
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near Marie Antoinette's private estate, they both reported a sudden
overwhelming sense of gloom, oppression, and stillness, as if the
natural sounds had been muffled by the very atmosphere, and
it had changed very dramatically. The colors of the scene
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seemed to flatten, and the area on the quality of
a tapestry or a photograph. Isn't that crazy? So as
they preceded, the environment and the people within it began
to conform to a much earlier period. They encountered several
figures in clothing from the late eighteenth century. They described
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seeing a woman and a young girl at a cottage door,
which she felt resembled the Tableau viviante, which was a
living picture, but she saw the scene as vividly real. Now. Moberly,
a principle at an Oxford College, had in even more
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chilling experience. She reported seeing a man with smallpox scars
near a kiosk, whose expression was really repulsive, and who
wore a cloak and a large shadowy hat. Is that
a hat man? So crucially, Moberly also claimed to see
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an elegant lady sketching on the lawn, whom she later,
after researching portraits, became convinced was none other than the
ill fated Queen Marie Antoinette. Cue the spooky music. Now.
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The true mystery emerged when the two women compared their
notes and later tried to retrace their steps. Now, while
they shared the feeling of profound unease at the presence
of period figures, their individual memories of the specific people
and events differed. Now this suggests a highly subjective experience. Furthermore,
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upon revisiting the grounds on subsequent days, they could not
locate the exact path the odd kiosk or the old
bridge and cottage they had both walked past, finding only
modern parkland. It appeared the historical landscape they had briefly
experienced had vanished. Hello, Weddy Now. Their conviction led them
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to publish their account in nineteen eleven under the pseudonyms
Morrison and Lamont, titling the book and a ure The
meticulous detail in the women's reputations as academics gave the
story immediate notoriety. Now, skeptics have said numerous rational explanations,
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including they had a shared delusion, misinterpretation of a fancy
dress party or a garden re enactment staged by the aristocrats,
or it was a result of simple confusion and suggestion
during a hot, tiring day. Now, however, the precise correspondence
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of some minor architectural details they reported with historical records
are not available to the public at the time, which
has continued to fuel the belief that they stumbled into
an echo or a brief physical remanifestation of Versilas as
it was just before the French before the French Revolution.
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I can't speak tonight, a mouthstrive. I need some water.
I didn't bring them. So there's a story like this
from Australia where went through this but came out a
later date. This makes you wonder these people have disappeared,
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have encountered this book, can't come back. I think that
you're right about that, Stephen, for sure, because I think
that you know, we was at Eddies for something. I
think it was Matt Sieber a long time ago. Did
a had his group there that was talking bigfoot and stuff.
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But a guy was over there talking to us, and
I actually got Matt Seber to come over there to
to listen to the guy's story because he told a
story about that. He he said, Now, I guess we
could say it's something like that, right. What ended up
happening was was he he told us that he was
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going out to go hunting and he stopped at the
same place all the time, walked the same path to
go to where he went and hunted. And as he
was walking, he just kept walking and walking and never
got back to where he was supposed to be, and
just kept walking and was wondering, you know, what the
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heck is going on? And about the time he was
going to give up, he come across on top of
this hill and he looked down and saw his vehicle
sitting in the in the place where he parked it.
Somehow he walked straight ahead but wound up back behind him.
And he said that he had missing time when it all,
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when it was all said and done. Pretty interesting stuff,
if you ask me. And I think that at some point,
I mean, things like this does happen. And like you said, Steven,
I think that there's a lot of times where maybe
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these missing people are stuff like that. You know, I
keep saying this, and I've said it for years, But
we're slowly put together a book and have done it
for been doing it for years and years. But sometimes
these kinds of books are hard to put together. But
it's almost on that what you was talking about, you know,
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the fact that I believe that the past or the
future you know seeds the past is seeding the past.
These people that are that come up missing here Flight nineteen,
just all these different things end up being somehow put
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back into the past. And this is gives why a
lot of these older civilizations knew so much about the stars,
because you just look at this. What's a pilot have
to know if all of his instruments fail, he has
to know how to navigate by landmarks and by the stars.
The same thing with a boat captain. Right, So he
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goes missing out of from you to Triangle or any
of these other places like that, they disappear. Well, they've
also are very well, you know, first with the stars
and so, and in order to try to figure out
where they are and what and how to get back home.
They may almost start a cult looking at the stars.
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So I don't know, it's it's it's interesting, very very interesting.
Uh maybe I don't know. He was at Legends and Lores,
So if he goes to deeed a Legends and Lore Stephen,
it may be the same guy. Maybe. So case number two, Yeah,
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it's the best. I mean, it's the best way you
know your landmarks, pick out landmarks and know the stars.
So case number two is the case of the Vanishing hotel.
So this is a modern time slipped and it's characterized
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by a couple's shared experience and the mysterious disappearance of
a physical evidence. So the most frequently cited version of
this story centers on an American couple sometimes named the
Hellings or Simpson Parkers, who were driving through rural France
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in nineteen seventy nine that were on their way to
a motor race. Now they've became lost in a remote
area and seeking shelter for the night, stumbled upon an antiquated,
charmingly old fashioned hotel that seemingly belonged to a much
earlier era. Now they decided to stay, noting the strangely
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cheap price and the unusual odds styled decor and the
lack of modern amenities. Now during their overnight stay, the
couple reported that all the staff were dressed in outdated
uniforms and had a strangely subdued formal manner to them. Now.
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The room itself was decorated in a style reminiscent of
the Edwardian or Bell Epic period, and the beds were
tall and antique. Now they spent a comfortable night, paid
their bill, which was very low, and continued their journey
to the next morning. They took several photographs of the
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hotel's distinctive interior with a polaroid camera as a souvenir
of their odd but pleasant experience. Now, these strange events
only become apparent when the couple arrived at their final destination,
and upon reviewing the photographs, they discovered the pictures they
took of the hotel were missing from the rule or
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they had simply failed to develop. Now, they only left
blank squares where the hotel should have been, So this
kind of raised their suspicion, But you know the reality
of the place they had just stayed. Even the luggage
stickers they had received seemed to have vanished or dissolved.
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So convinced they had experienced something extraordinary, the couple attempted
to find the hotel on their return journey, hoping to
collect their lost evidence. Now, despite particulously retracing their route
and asking locals, they could not locate the hotel or
even the on which it was situated. There were no
local records that matched the description of this building, and
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no one recalled an establishment fitting the hotel's unusual characteristics
in that area. Now, the only tangible evidence they retained
was the inexplicable gap in their memory of finding the
place and the absence of the photographs, leading to the
speculation that they had momentarily occupied a hotel from a
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bygone decade that existed only as an echo. I've heard
that story, Michelle says, I would just want to stay
there forever. Yes, yes, the stairs is the biggest thing
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I've taught them. Yeah, for the stars, I mean, yeah,
it's so Michelle would stay there. I don't know what
if it was like I watched a movie a long
time ago now that it was kind of a horror movie.
It was a rated, really bad rated beam a horror movie,
but it was almost a time slip thing like these
guys I don't even remember the name of it, but
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they time slipped accidentally into this alternate dimension or something
where these terrible beings and stuff lived. But then every
so Beny, I don't remember how long it was, but
I guess in the real world it was quite a
few years. They can slip back in. I have to
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try to remember the name of that movie. It was weird,
and I watched it. It had to be twenty plus
years ago probably, so it was crazy. So the third
case that we're going to talk about is Liverpool Bold
Street glitches. So now the alleged time slips on Bold
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Street in Liverpool, England a reoccurring localized phenomenon, often reported
over several decades by multiple unconnected witnesses. Now, this busy street,
known for its mix of modern shops and Victorian architecture,
has become infamous for its purported temporal anomalies. Now the
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accounts generally follow a pattern. An individual is walking down
the street in the present day when the surroundings just
kind of shift, with the modern streetscape replacing by a
scene from the past. Now it's typically somewhere from the
forties of the fifties. One of the most widely reported
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incidents involved a former police officer named Frank, who was
waiting for his wife near a book shop in the
nineteen nineties. Now he claims that the modern street scene
suddenly dissolved in the street was filled with old fashioned
cars and people and clothing from the middle of the
twentieth century. He was able to look directly through a
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crowd to see a shop sign that belonged to a
business that had been defunct for decades. He experienced a
profound physical disorientation before the present day reality snapped back
into focus left him sitting there and shaking. Another account
involves a woman who was shopping on Bold Street and
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walked past a branch of a bank. As she glanced
at the buildings, she claims the modern frontage was momentarily
replaced by much older, darker exterior. Even more strikingly, she
reported saw a horse drawn carriage pass by before the
image flickered and was replaced by a stream of modern traffic. Now,
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these incidents are notable because they are not confined to
a single person, but have been recounted by various people
who were unaware of the streets. Procure your rep reputation.
It's pretty crazy right now. Explanations for the Bold Street
anomalies often focus on genealogical or infrastructural characteristics. Some theories
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suggest that the phenomenon could be related to the presence
of an old underground railway or the unique convergence of
fault lines beneath the city, which might somehow act as
a focus for unknown energies or temporal distortions. I was
kind of thinking something along that line, something along the
line of you know, lay lines or something. Maybe I
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don't know them. Now, while skeptics point to the power
of urban legend or shared delusions or simply a memory
in perception errors, how often do you have just that
kind of perception error? I don't think I could I
could ever say that I have ever walked down on
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the road and saw something like that. I don't know.
To me, it's that's that's just idiotic. The regularity and
the similarity of the unconnected accounts have cemented Bold Street's
reputation as a genuine, though unexplained hotspot for time slip activity.
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We're gonna have to go there, Hey, Martin, how you doing? So?
Number four the mystery of Sergey as a Ukrainian time traveler. So, now,
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this is more akin to time traveling experience than a
classical time slip, but it is a compelling modern urban
legend due to its photographic evidence and official documentation. Now,
the incident allegedly occurred on April twenty third, two thousand
and six, in Kiev, Ukraine, when a man in oddly
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vintage clothes and carrying an old fashioned camera was found
wandering the streets, was appearing very confused and disoriented. When
questioned by the police, the man, who identified himself as Sergei,
insisted he was born in nineteen thirty two and that
it was the year nineteen fifty eight. Now, upon searching him,
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authorities found his Soviet era documents, which were authentic for
the fifties, so showed him at the age of twenty five.
He was taken to a psychiatric clinic for examination by
a psychiatrist, doctor Pavlo. During the interview, which was reportedly recorded,
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he claimed that he was taking photographs with his fiancee
when he saw a strength, large bell shaped object which
he believed to be a UFO, and he attempted to
photograph it, and then he somehow was transported to the
year two thousand and six. Now, the most bizarre piece
of evidence came from the antique film camera he carried.
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The police and the photography expert successfully developed the film.
They found these images of nineteen fifties Kiev, as well
as a picture of him and his fiance. Crucially, one
photograph was one of a UFO like object he had described.
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Investigators later tracked down the fiance, which was now an
elderly woman in her seventies, and she confirmed that her
fiance Sergei, had vanished mysteriously in nineteen fifty eight. She
even produced a photograph allegedly said to her by him
from the future of showing an older version of him
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against a futuristic Kyev skyline. Now, that's interesting. What's interesting
about that is that that would be a lot of
the same though. That would be a time slip, but
that would be a time slip where he obviously slipped
and never went back. So what do you think about that? Everybody?
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What do you think about the time slips? Do you
think they're real? Do you think they're people's imaginations. I've
heard a lot of people. Yeah, I've seen that that
picture go around a lot, which is kind of neat
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where people. I don't know if everybody sees that. But
what about the guy that was supposedly pictured in the
fifties or sixties with the today's iPhone. I think it's possible.
I think that these things happen. What would be the
hardest part is that if something like that was caught,
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would be to distinguish between is it a time traveler
or is it someone slipping accidentally in time. I think
that'd be the hardest part to try to figure out.
Only the person that's done the slipping would know. I guess, huh,
if it was accidental or not anybody else want to
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talk about it for a minute. I find time slips
and things like this really fascinating because, yeah, I think
you're right, Steven. I think it could be both, and
they are along the same lines. Maybe one is you know,
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of course, time travel, if we was able to be
able to do it. I think that it's definitely very
possible that we probably already do it, but that that
would be intentional, and then the other would be just natural.
And what's funny is that science says that anything that
we can conceive nature can do it without us, So
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it doesn't even need us to be in the mix
to be able to do it. So, like I said,
you know earlier, I think that that's what happens with
a lot of these airplanes that go up missing and
they've never found anything. Ships that go missing and they've
never found them. Sometimes ships come back with nobody on board.
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You know, there was nothing in the log showing that
they had any problems. Right, the ship is still perfectly intact.
It's some crazy things that happen on this planet, and
we're pretty far from figuring them out for sure. But
time slips is one of those things that when you
really look into it and you really talk about it,
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it makes you start thinking about stuff like that. Unfortunately,
there are those that passed through and unable to come
back right right. That's the thing, though, is that, you know,
I think that there's times where you can have these
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time slips because I've seen or I've listened to other
things on time slips, and one of them was a
host and I don't want to say his name, but
he has a pretty popular show, and he talked about
driving his car trying to go home and took a
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turn and all of a sudden, things completely changed. All
the cars on the road turned into like nineteen fifties
cars and everything, and he drove for a little bit
and then then it went away and everything came back
to the way it was, And so you know, he
believes that he went into a time slip. For sure. Yes,
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Nature will reclaim us. All that's a fact in one
way or another. Nature is the ultimate when it comes
to that stuff and deciding our fate in a lot
of ways too, I think, what do you think? But
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very very interesting subject, for sure. I wanted to let
everybody also know. See was it just curious? Did you
experience anything like this when you had your big foot encounter?
While driving? There are some small amount of counters with
time slips, Benjamin Baty says, Amelia Earhart. Maybe an example,
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to my knowledge, they've never found her plane. Time travel
is a possibility. And there's another one. Right, Flight nineteen
was one, and the same thing, Amelia Earhart. They've never
found her plane. They swear that that they're going to
find it and that she has to be somewhere here,
but they've never found their plane. The same thing with
flight nineteen, right, same thing happened. All those men that
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were flying those planes and very accomplished pilots, guess what,
never found them. But when I saw Bigfoot, I do
not recall it looking any different. But you got to
think it was on I ninety up in uh, you know, Washington.
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So you're out in the middle of nowhere, and then
there's no cars inside because it was eleven o'clock at night.
Ben could tell you that place becomes a ghost town.
Nine ninety anywhere on nine ninety, but not about ten
eleven o'clock at night. You ain't seeing nobody. Very rare
to see cars and even other trucks. A lot of
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them are gone by that time. I think the jury
is still out. I'm out here breaking generational Well, that's good.
That's how we get enlightened, you know, we we just
got to do that. Yeah. They you see these things
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all the time where they think that they have found
a plane and then they'll start running numbers of parts
of the plane that they find and none of them
end up matching. Because I know that they've they've said
it multiple times of where they have they knew the
path of flight nineteen very well. I mean all the
way up to the time that they disappeared. They were
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talking you know, on the radios to UH to the
to the base and everything, and they've never found their planes.
That was dying planes. When the spotter plane went went
up to go find them. After they disappeared, the spotter
plane and the nine people in that plane disappeared, and
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one of the largest man hunts were was sent out
by the Navy and they never found even wreckage of
a plane. So I was ten planes in total just
gone disappeared. And then you have Native Americans that talk
about these big thunderbirds come over, and you wonder would
that be an airplane, because that would be a very
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loud bird, right aw, especially if it's coming over you.
So I don't know, it's it's interesting, it's interesting. I
just want to let everybody know that October went through
a timeportal. It is possible, I really think so, just
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like some planes disappear then run into a mountain or
a hill all of a sudden, right right, No, I
mean that's that's true. I mean, who's to say that
sometimes these things that when these planes just disappear and
then they'll find them on the side of a mountain
that it wasn't you know, it wasn't that kind of
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a thing, because you know, there was that one guy
I forgot his name, but he had that he calls
it the electric or fog or green fog or something
like that, that happened to him in Florida. He said
he went up as a normal day up in this cessna.
I think he said that it was a supposed to
be like a one hour flight to wherever it was
he was going. He went up, went through this fog
(49:56):
stuff that he said it was rotating kind of like
a vorte. And when he came out the other side,
he was already to his destination and he hadn't been
up for you know, ten to fifteen minutes, and he
was like, how did I get so far in such
a short amount of time. It's supposed to have taken
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me this much time. And even when he landed, he
had more fuel on his plane than what he normally
would have to make that same run. So I think
there's some pretty pretty crazy things that happens in this world.
Be neat if we had more explanations. I think our
government does, but they don't want to tell. October twenty third,
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Jason and I are going to be at the O'Connor
Senior Centers in Knoxville, Tennessee, at two pm giving a talk.
If you're off that Thursday, because it is going to
be on a Thursday, come down and talk with us.
We're going to be talking about the paranormal and in
a one hour lecture. Yep, that's another coincidence. Yeah, it's true. Also,
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on October twenty fifth, we're gonna be in downtown Loudon
at the Misfits and Mayhem at two pm, so come
and join us. We should have most of our books
in at that point. I don't think our newest of
the new books will be in by that time. Jason
says maybe maybe not, so we'll have at least two
(51:33):
of the three books with us on that day, so
definitely come and join us for that. I want to
thank everybody for showing up tonight. I'm not Jason, so
I don't know where all the music stuff is. I
don't think maybe I do figuring this out, Hey, Thanky,
(52:10):
thank you everybody. Like I said, you know, Jason is
out tonight, but he will be back with us on
Saturday night, so we all I definitely am looking forward
to that. And also remember turning before one one on YouTube,
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or you go to our website at run on before
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Jason'll be here coming up and I want to thank everybody.
Thanks everybody for popping in. Thank you Jason, thank you Steven,
thank you Andrea and all the other people, Michelle, all
the other people who were popped on here for a
while and hasn't really said too much, baby girl, and
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everybody else. I want to thank everybody. I hope you
enjoyed the show. It was fun putting it together. Jason
did a really good job at it. And so let's
see if I could take us out again. We will
see you on Saturday. Oh, hey, you know, we will
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definitely do it. Yeah, we will definitely do it. We
would have fun, all right, Jason, go up there and
investigate the Civil War hospital. That would be fun. We'd
love to do that. Absolutely. Thanks every every and y'all
have a good night, and we will see you Saturday.
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