March 14, 2023 • 65 mins
Dudleytown, an abandoned settlement located in the Dark Entry Forest near Cornwall, CT, is a small village that most people avoid because it is thought to be a cursed location due to its dark history. Even with the name, it was never really an actual town. The name was given to this area of Cornwall because several members of the Dudley family lived there in the 1740s. Settlers began to trickle into the area & the community grew even larger after iron ore was discovered nearby, but it was repeatedly plagued by murder, suicide, madness/insanity, disappearances & failed business.
Dudleytown has been abandoned since the early 1900s & cannot be visited because it is part of a land trust. Even though it is forbidden to enter, people have still made their way in to explore and experience the paranormal here. People have felt an overwhelming feeling of dread, terror or fear here or been overwhelmed with sadness. Mysterious lights & orbs have been seen & some have been touched, pushed & scratched by unseen hands. There have also been sightings of strange creatures that would come out of the woods at night.
We also review the 2015 movie We Are Still Here starring Andrew Sensenig & Barbara Crampton. A grieving couple unknowingly becomes the prey of a family of vengeful spirits that resides in their new New England home, and they soon discover that the seemingly nearby peaceful town is hiding a terrifyingly dark secret.
Join us on episode 156 to hear more about the cursed Dudleytown and those that lived here!
Sources: onlyinyourstate.com/connecticut/dudleytown-ct/, americanhauntingsink.com/dudleytown, damnedct.com/dudleytown/, nytimes.com/1989/10/29/nyregion/the-view-from-dudleytown-a-hamlet-that-can-t-get-rid-of-its-ghosts.html, wokq.com/have-you-heard-of-this-haunted-new-england-town-thats-closed-to-the-public/, cvltnation.com/fear-real-connecticuts-haunted-village/, maps.roadtrippers.com/us/cornwall-bridge-ct/points-of-interest/dudleytown, usghostadventures.com/haunted-stories/americas-most-haunted-east/the-curse-of-dudleytown/
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Dudleytown has been abandoned since the early 1900s & cannot be visited because it is part of a land trust. Even though it is forbidden to enter, people have still made their way in to explore and experience the paranormal here. People have felt an overwhelming feeling of dread, terror or fear here or been overwhelmed with sadness. Mysterious lights & orbs have been seen & some have been touched, pushed & scratched by unseen hands. There have also been sightings of strange creatures that would come out of the woods at night.
We also review the 2015 movie We Are Still Here starring Andrew Sensenig & Barbara Crampton. A grieving couple unknowingly becomes the prey of a family of vengeful spirits that resides in their new New England home, and they soon discover that the seemingly nearby peaceful town is hiding a terrifyingly dark secret.
Join us on episode 156 to hear more about the cursed Dudleytown and those that lived here!
Sources: onlyinyourstate.com/connecticut/dudleytown-ct/, americanhauntingsink.com/dudleytown, damnedct.com/dudleytown/, nytimes.com/1989/10/29/nyregion/the-view-from-dudleytown-a-hamlet-that-can-t-get-rid-of-its-ghosts.html, wokq.com/have-you-heard-of-this-haunted-new-england-town-thats-closed-to-the-public/, cvltnation.com/fear-real-connecticuts-haunted-village/, maps.roadtrippers.com/us/cornwall-bridge-ct/points-of-interest/dudleytown, usghostadventures.com/haunted-stories/americas-most-haunted-east/the-curse-of-dudleytown/
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Paranormal Punches is part of the PodbellyNetwork. Go to podbelly dot com for
more great podcast. Hey y'all,this is Frank the Bigfoot and you're listening
to the Paranormal Punchers. Hey,friends, welcome to another episode Paranormal Punchers.
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I'm Mark, I'm Alicia, I'mDave. No Nash but we were
at his strong man event today.He was crushing it. I think he
ended up please seeing a second soNash, awesome job. Definitely. It's
excited to come back for the nexttopic. But you crushed it, dude,
so congratulations. Now on this episode, we're gonna talk about the very
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cursed, haunted town of Dudleytown inConnecticut. We also ask some listener feedback,
and we also have a movie review. We're gonna do that kind of
partners pairs with our topic of today, So why don't we jump right into
it? Okay, Dullytown, DelhiTown. I said bad, I'm hungry.
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Yeah. Dudleytown, an abandoned settlementlocated in the Dark Entry Forests near
Cornwall, Connecticut, is a smallvillage that most people avoid because it is
thought to be cursed. A cursedlocation due to its dark history. But
now you can't. You have toavoid it. Yes, most people avoid
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it. So, um, whatyou're not allowed to go in it's private
proper. Yeah, yeah, Iknow. We say that to the end,
right and people are like, I'mexcited to go to this, like,
but you can't. Right. SoDudley Town it was never really an
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actual town. The name was givento this area of Cornwall because several members
of the Dudley family lived there inthe seventeen forties. Doesn't that make it
a town? No, a coupleof people built houses said this is a
town. It really does counn rightnow, it's more I would say it's
more like a village. So it'snot like a huge area. But um,
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yeah, it's not an actual town. It's actually more like a settlement
maybe a village. Yeah, andget into that a little bit later.
But yeah, it really had nothing. Yeah, there was nothing there besides
people. Wow. Um, speakingof our movie review, we should have
did the village. Yeah no,no, we're not doing sorry. Uh.
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The land was first owned by ThomasGriffiths, one of the first settlers
in the area. Eventually it wasnamed Dudley Town after several Dudley brothers came
to the area along with apparently afamily curse. We're not going to go
into this family curse because it datesback to like England and the Dudley family
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over there are not even related tothe Dudley members that came over here.
But it is a common exception.You hear that tied quite often. Yes,
and not to go into it.But it's basically the royalty, not
royalty nobility over there. The Dudleyswere nobility and they plotted to kill the
king and got executed. And butthere's no relation though, no connection to
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this. No, they just hadthe same last name, so you could
say it's a curse for the name, but not for that actual family.
Um. Now, in seventeen fortyseven, Gideon Dudley he bought some land
from Griffiths to start a small farm. By seventeen fifty three, Gideon's two
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brothers, bars A Lie and AbrielDudley also purchased land nearby. Those are
some names, say we're gon we'regonna address those names. Yeah, Barsil
Fly, No, it's bars ALie Lie Yeah, b A r z
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A l l Ai. Is thathow you would say it? BARSL Lie
I don't know, show can sayI know and Abriel so A B I
E. L. Dudley, hewould just be a but kind of shortening
you would do for bar Barsley.Now. Um, a few years later
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Martin Dudley from Massa. Now hewas from Massachusetts. He also moved to
the area. He also had therewas no relation to that actual family.
Um, but he just had thesame last name. Um, he had
any of the same first name.Now. He later married Gideon's daughter.
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So it's just too right. It'sjust too This is why the area is
called Dudleytown is because a bunch ofDudley's they just showed up Leys. Yeah.
Um. So at that points settlersbegan to trickle into the area,
and the community grew even larger afteran iron ore was discovery nearby. Um.
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There were never any stores, shops, schools, or even churches in
Dudleytown. Visions had to be purchasedin other towns, and any funerals had
to be elsewhere since there were newchurches or even cemeteries, right, and
a lot of that dealt with Becauseof the landscape, this wasn't an easy
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terrain to It wasn't actually very goodfor agriculture, which is amazing that that's
how it got started. Was nowbought it to start farm? Yeah yeah.
It basically sat on a hill insidea valley and it was you know
forests and you know rocks and justhills and all that. Nothing really made
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it good for people in any way, shape or form, yet they tried
all right. Now, the populationof Dudleytown was never large and according to
a map from eighteen fifty four,the most number of families that even lived
there were twenty six. So likeit wasn't a very which is why it
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wasn't a town, right per seUm, Now, this small village was
repeatedly plagued by murder, suicide,madness or insanity, disappearances, and even
failed businesses. And we'll go intotwenty six people. That's just the bar
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well farms, right, so um, go ahead, still have a better
shot starting a bar true story.It does make me laugh at the at
the failed businesses come at the endafter insanity and murders. Yeah. Now,
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so I'm just going to go throughsome of them. You guys can
jump in with things that you guyshave as well, because I don't.
I don't have all of them.Okay, I just have certain ones.
Um Abol Dudley he suffered from dementiaand insanity in his old age. He
died in the town at the ageof ninety. So he was one of
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the people that just went crazy.Abiel's good friend, Gershaw Hollister, he
felt to his death while building abarn for his neighbor William Tanner in seventeen
ninety two. Tanner wittensane and claimedthat a strange animal from the forest apparently
killed Hollister, which he died fromfalling. But now the wife of Herman
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Swift, who was a Revolutionary Wargeneral, he was struck and killed by
lightning while standing. She was standingon their porch when she was struck.
Herman wittensane And died not too longafter her death. Their home was near
Dubleytown. It wasn't actually in thevillage or whatever, but it was like
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right there. One of the lastresidents of the town was a man named
John Patrick Brophy. His wife diedof consumption, which was not uncommon at
that time. Tuberculous, right,is that what it is? Yeah?
Just a short time later, histwo children vanished into the forest. It
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could have been because they were accusedof stealing slagh Bank blankets. But hey
man, how do you think theygot a round back then blankets? That's
a good deal, but being accusedthat, I feel like it didn't cost
that much money, so it wasn'ta big deal, no minor. Yeah,
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fans this demeanor maybe we call it. Yeah, but they still just
walked off into the forest. Yeah, never to be seen again. Kind
of sounds like a handsling gravel typething. Yeah, so yeah, they
were never found again. Um,shortly after their house burned to the ground
in an unexplained fire, and thennot too long after, Brophy himself into
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the forest and wasn't never seen again. And you can't think that he burned
his house down declaim insurance money becausewell problems no insurance back in the day.
So well, definitely not in thetown because there was no right businesses.
Right. No. The last thingthat I have is about doctor William
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Clark. But I knew you weregoing to talk about home, so oh
yeah, um yeah, so thedude had just walked off in the forest
he talked about. Uh so thatwas what the early nineteen hundreds, So
this thing has sat around abandoned.You know, I'm assuming also the forest
started to reclaim, right, youknow, you know there was just no
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I guess now you can see foundations, but you know how the woods does
it. How mother nature doesn't juststart erasing that you were even here,
right, right? But anyway,so around the nineteen twenties, this guy,
doctor William Clark, he came outto Cornwall, Connecticut, and he
just fell in love with that thatforest, how pristine it looked, and
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how quiet it was. And beinga doctor living in New York City,
you know, the hustle and bustleof nineteen twenties New York City, and
I think it was like extremely wellrespected. I think it might have been
a cancer doctor. He yeah,I think he was. It was cancer.
So he was just looking for aplace for him and his wife to
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get away from the city, andhe fell in love with his are in
Connecticut. He bought a thousand acresof land in this area, which included
what was is considered Dudley Town,and he wanted to build his summer home
or vacation home. M Now,he did have some trouble getting anybody to
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help him build it. They didn'twant anything to do with this area.
But he grew up on a farm, so he he knew how to build
a home himself, and he justwent to work, which that right there
almost blows my mind more than thecurse Land. Like, you know,
this doctor grew up in a farm. He's like, I can build my
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own house, right because I don'tthink a lot of people could do that
nowadays. Right, So that's amazing. Well, and while still practicing medicine,
right, you got in New York, you can damage your hands and
that's that's the moneymakers, right.Yeah, and he's from doctor Strange.
You gotta protectives. And he waspracticing in New York City, so he
was commuting back and forth. Soit's not one of those like, oh,
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I'm just going to you know,spend six months to build a house.
It's no, he had to keepworking. Well. Yeah, and
him and his wife, Harriet,they would go out there and stay while
I was still working on it,and you have having an awesome time.
And they loved the area, youknow, holiday there sometimes like Thanksgiving things
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like them. But anyway, soand they were always together and never any
issues. But one one time theywere up there and enjoying themselves, he
got called back to the office inNew York. Probably had to do surgery,
who knows what. But he wasgoing for thirty six hours. And
now he took the train and whenhe got the train and his wife wasn't
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there to pick him up, sohe walked back up to the cabin and
he found his wife basically gone insaneand she was talking about she saw strange
creatures in the forest and the attackedher then and sadly she did end up
committing suicide. Yeah, and thatwas practically the last time anybody tried to
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take up living in the in thatare right, right, Yeah, I
think he was one of the lastones, right, Yeah. But he
also did form the Dark Forest,Dark Entry Forest, Dark Entry Forest,
not coalition, No, it's likea land trust or something, right,
Yeah, to protect this area protectedor keep people out right, yeah right,
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but yeah, so uh one,do you have any Dave, any
other stories you want? Just nothing, you know, stories like that.
But the you know, just howthe town kind of degraded over time.
You know, the iron ore wastheir most popular thing, but with the
having to transport it, and likeI said, the land wasn't very easily
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traversed and it wasn't quality land.So it was one of those things that
over time it just made more senseto the iron or mines were moved closer
to the railroads, things like that. They had some water mills that were
producing things for the town. Um, over time they had issues with the
water and again the goods that wereproduced there having to do that travel wasn't
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worth it. So over time itjust died out, you know, as
a result of that. So itsounds like some of the problems would just
be too deep into this forest,right, it just wasn't easy to get
stuff in and out right cly chainissues man, all right, Um,
Which that's actually going back to thestory of the doctor. It's like,
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so how did he get notified thathe needed to go to New York?
That is an excellent question. Ido not have an answer right now.
I'm assuming telephone. I don't thinkit didn't have a pager, right well,
and I don't think telephone. Idon't even telegraph. But then they
would have to have a Horst code. But I mean they had most likely
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went to what was the town thatwas nearby Cornwall Cornwall, Um, that
would have been the closest, andthen they must have sent somebody up to
him. But oh yeah, that'sright. Right, So the telegraph comes
into somebody of the town, thenthey got to hike it all the way
up to get it right. Allright, I'm down with that. That
makes sense, Okay, Now,um, I believe in the early nineteen
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seventies, Ed and Lorraine Warren theyshowed up at one point. Yeah,
they actually recorded a Halloween special fromDudleytown and declaring it officially demonically possessed.
Wait it's a special. Yeah,they did a Halloween special. Yeah.
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I couldn't find it. I wantedto watch the special. I couldn't find
anything, but I did find aquote about it from Ed worm Um.
The Dudley's had an ancestor in Englandwho was a judge and condemned many people
to death for witchcraft. Mister Warrensaid the curse in Dudleytown started after the
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village became a thriving town. Peoplewent mad and reported seeing monstrosities in the
forest, things that were unnatural.Curse. What is a curse? Dudleytown
is cursed, and that is atract of land with an aur of disaster.
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Everyone left the town. Edwarren concluded, all right, so part of
that quote there doesn't make sense whenhe's talking about the village becoming a thriving
town, right when we know thatit was only like twenty six people and
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nobody can get a business off theground there twenty six families, there could
be a lot of people. Wellconsider you know, normally you think size
of force. That's what hundred andsix. I don't know that could see
like hustle and bustle back in backin the day. See, that's why
you had the bar, right,that's the business they should have started,
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right, Yeah, that's why theywent insane. They didn't have alcohol.
You're welcome. So we did mentionthis. But Dudleytown has been abandoned since
the early nineteen hundreds and it cannotbe visited because it is part of a
land trust. Today, only thecellar holes and a few stone foundations remain,
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and the roads that go into itare now little more than just narrow
trails. The area is covered inthick forest and the ground is strewn strewn
with rocks. The nearby mountains heavilyshadowed the area, so it receives little
sunlight. So yeah, I thoughtthat was part of the like some of
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the issues with the town. Theway that the forest and the canopy is
like it, Uh, it wouldget darker faster in this town because the
treat that the canopy was just massive. Yeah, so that hindered growing things
and maybe maybe even feeling good whenyou're like, yeah, oh no,
no more sunlight. You know,doesn't help your mental right stay Yeah,
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no vitamin d uh the uh sorry, just completely forgot what I was going
to say there. Yeah. Butyeah, even um, you know the
fact that it's rocky now means thatit's rocky land, So it's definitely not
gonna be good for agriculture. Um. Oh and you know, I think
that's where the term dark entry forestcame from. You know, this is
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one of those things where the forestis dark and spooky and it's it's not
inviting, it's it's one of thosethings that's stay out. It's a dark
entry point. Yeah. Um.So I have a quote from Dan Ackroid.
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Everybody Dan Accroid Ghostbusters? Who's hego? Well you might know from
Ghostbusters too. Yes. So thiswas a nineteen ninety three interview with Playboy.
But Playboy asked, did you believein ghosts as a child? Of
course, they had Sansas at theold family farm where I grew up.
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My mother witnesses an apparition. Ionce saw some lights I couldn't explain.
My father was a psychic researcher,so it was really passed down to me.
Playboy, it seems Ghostbusters is youridea of a documentary not fiction.
Are you pulling our leg? Definitelynot. The other day I read that
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howld ramis my colleague and Ghostbusters saidhe doesn't believe in ghosts, Playboy,
and that's a that is you,yes, because he is a very smart
person. I'm going to bring himto I'm going to bring him up to
Dudleytown, Massachusetts and scare the shitout of him. Sometime. I'll take
him to the most haunted place onEarth. He's my man, He's going.
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I can't believe he uh off handilysays he doesn't believe in ghosts when
in reality of life on this planet. All right, he's going to get
spank for that now. He saidDudleytown, Massachusetts, right, But in
research on Dudleytown in Connecticut, thisis what always came up. Okay,
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so hey, dan Ackroid, hehad it wrong because Connecticut. But Bro,
not only that it sounds like he'sa kindred spirit of nash Oh looking
up researching the wrongn not that theuh that you know, fictional stories are
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actually documentaries, and I thought thatwas I thought that was interesting. They
were talking about this town. Okay. Now, even though you can't visit,
people have. There's been a fewthat have been invited in UM and
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quite a few have snuck in.And I found some paranimal stuff that they
have experienced there. Now people havehad an overwhelming feeling of dread, terror
or fear here UM. Others havebeen overwhelmed with sadness. They report the
feeling of being watch or a feelingof suffocation. UM. It is supposedly
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silent here, like if you werein a recording booth or recording studio booth.
UM. Like it is that quiet, like there's no insects, there's
no animals. Like. It's interesting. UM. Strange unexplainable things have been
captured on photographs and alternately, somephotos taken here will not develop properly.
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Is their faces all blurry? Ifit in the ring? I don't know.
Um, I didn't see any photos, so I have no idea.
But now mysterious lights and orbs havebeen seen in here. Um. People
have seen whispy apparitions in the woods, and visitors to the era have also
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been touched, pushed, or scratchedby unseen hands. That's messed up,
yeah inside you yeah uh. Andthen um, there were several instances um
of strange creatures that we had mentionedpreviously that would come out of the woods
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at night. Um. Some researchersconsidered this place to be a negative power
spot where things just can enter thisworld from the other side. They believe
that this could be right, theycould explain the strange creature being seen,
or even the outbreaks of insanity likethat it's just this weird void or whatever.
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But well, and I forgot theone other thing. Um, there
was an outbreak of plague, notan not bubonic plague, but there was
some sort of a disease pestilence thatwent through the town. But they were
so secluded it didn't really make senseof why the villagers would get sick like
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that. So it's right, youcame through the portal m now, and
that brings me to theories that wecould bring up. You guys want to
go into that, but sure,so, is this a portal of some
kind this area, um, andwhy would it be a portal? Like
was it has it always been aportal or was it opened for some reason?
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But we're supposed to have an answer. Yeah, you know, I
thought maybe you guys could oh uhfor me, Nothing about this sounds like
a portal. No, it soundslike poor a city planning. True,
you know, maybe this area wasn'tthe right spot right now. People talking
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about seeing shadows and things in theforest. You know, I don't know
about that, but portal. Idon't think something's coming through here. I
mean I could if it's a portal. It's a one way coming in right,
right, right, Although I guessthe people went disappearing yep, maybe
I don't know. I don't know, but I want to get into that.
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I have a theory of my own. So wait till later. But
the uh, how much later doyou want to wait? She has a
list of theories to go, Okay, the second half later tonight. I
didn't know what you're next episode now. I also came across that apparently it
was a Native American burial ground.Um, and I can't remember the name
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of the tribe that was in thatarea. I can't remember now. Um,
but I only found it in acouple of spots, so I don't
know. I could be roun.Dave's looking at it right now, but
I thought I came across something.It was also the Mohican tribe? Was
it? So Dave's going to verifyRemember that movie The Last Mohicans didn't take
place up in Uh that? Yeah? No, you're right, it did.
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Um, great movie, Daniel dayLewis, Uh, yeah, I
don't know. You are correct?Owesome, Well Mohicans, I don't know.
I don't remember where is a goodmovie took place? But how to
take place up there? Now,I'll look that up. Uh. The
next thing is mass hysteria, whichI don't know if I buy. But
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they were talking about like some ofthe how some of the families they all
started getting a little crazy and thatmaybe it just was kind of a they
were spreading it to each other asfar as through hysteria. But okay,
like George, New York, Ohright, so okay, not Connecticut,
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but we're close enough, right,wow, And we we like to visit
Lake joh I know, we loveAnd then the last one I have is
it it's been suggested that the groundwateris contaminated with the lead, which could
also offer an explanation for the numberof deaths or pass people going crazy.
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I guess. But Dave, thisis now the thing you had that you'd
like to talk about. Sure,okay, it was a good time.
I think it's a great time.So, um, haunted forest overall.
I mean, if we're going totalk about a documentary on haunted forests,
we have to go to Rahmanhood,Prince of Thieves, and that Sherwood Forest
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was haunted and no one wanted togo in there and everybody was scared of
it. But the ghosts were actuallya settlement of people who just wanted to
get away. I think the samething happened here, Like Dudleytown was encroaching
from the city folk into this societythat they had built in this forest,
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and so when they saw figures comingout, it was these forest folk that
it was the merry men or yeah, that were they were trying to scare
people away, and the people thatwent insane and wandered into the forest they
were to be seen. They joinedin this, and yeah, I think
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it makes perfect sense. Yeah,Okay, nash uh is that is that
that was I mean, that's yeah, I mean I was I was expecting
more dialogue to No. I justhad a shocked look in my vace.
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Yeah all right, No, okay, you're saying that the twenty six families
of Dudleytown wanted to live remotely andbe left alone. So if anybody tried
to come in, they're like,no, no, that Dudleytown was the
city folk encroaching in this. Uhthis is this is during the Revolutionary War,
you know, starting that whole concept. So those are the people that
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moved into the woods and like aworld free of the English rule and hiding
in the farm being scared out bypeople say hey, we've been hanging out
it for a while. We don'twant you. Correct and you're you're failed
businesses to mess up our farest rightYeah okay, ye, all right,
well that makes little more sense.Yeah, cool. Uh back to Alicia,
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basically a deli town. It failedbecause of that core farming conditions and
a lack of financial opportunities that youknow, business wise, So um,
that's why it didn't thrive. Butoh, one other thing I wanted to
bring up, Um, Mark,you and I were geocashing and we got
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separated at one point and we wereno more than what a hundred yards from
each other, and we could nothear each other. We had, right,
we had no idea what you gottaken down by a badger? Right,
Oh, I would think it wouldbe a bear. But okay,
but I'm you know, in adark wood, dark entry wood. I
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mean, obviously it's it's dark,it's scary, it's and the fact that
no sound means that the canopy,the tree line, that all of that
is enough to prevent sound from reallytraveling. So it's it's quiet, and
you're not going to hear these things. So people going into the woods,
it's very easy that they just disappeared. You know. It doesn't mean that
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they they could have walked to anothertown or something and just never be found
again. But you're not going tofind them in the forest. I mean,
it's also possible that they were like, you know this town, yeah,
and they just left, yeah,to go somewhere. You know,
maybe they went up to Boston,right, Yeah, Yeah, I didn't
get some duncan. I did seeone person saying that they felt like maybe
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the creatures in the woods that theywere seeing were luring people into the forest.
But we know, uh, thisjust jumped in my mind. But
we'll see you know Connecticut. Soin Massachusetts we have the the Bridgewater Triangle.
Within the Bridgewater Triangle is the puckWatchie who is infamous for luring people
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into the woods and then dispatching them. Yeah. So I don't know.
It could be a cousin or ohor the patch. I don't doubt the
puck watching is limited to just Massachusetts, right, Okay, all right,
well, why don't we take aquick break and we'll come back with some
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listener feedback, some movie talk,uh, some other stuff that I can't
think of at the moment. Sowe'll be right back and we're back,
all rights. Uh, that wasfun yep. Uh, something I I
didn't know about this town until Idon't know, last month or something.
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I just want to be fun totalk about. Uh. And again,
people try to go there, theywill. They have police to patrol that
era, they will, they willarrest, yeah and find you. But
I know some people do sneak in, yeah, to check it out.
Um. I would like David wherever, Connecticut. If there's some geo cashes
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in Dudleytown, we kind of haveto go for him, right, Um,
with permission. I don't trustpass ohokay, yeah too older break laws
right, Okay. The only placeI'll trespass is Chernobyl. I really want
to wander around that. But that'sa different story for another day. All
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right. First, I'd like tokick off the second half by welcoming a
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(34:04):
Yeah, and I know people hateadds, but you know, we you
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(34:45):
Dead Scripts, Dead Scripts, Risein the Grave, the D and D
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there, it's there, you know. And maybe in the future we're gonna
work on being better at Patreon.But we figured for a dollar, like,
that's pretty some pretty solid community ability, all right, I'd buy that
(35:07):
for a dollar. All right.So we heard from Indiana Johnny, if
you remember from last episode, hehad yet again something messing with his DVDs.
Yeah, so he has a followup. Oh and we send Johnny
a sticker. I don't know ifhe got it yet, but Johnny can't
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get two stickers. But thank youfor letting us share your stories. We
only have so many stickers. Well, because if you let us share your
story on our show, we'll sendyou a parallel bunch of sticker. Anyway,
Indiana, Johnny had to follow upto that situation he had. I
was talking to a friend yesterday aboutthe recent experiences at my townhouse, the
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DVDs being mess with, the runningup and down the upstairs hallway, and
he's said it sounds like it couldbe a little kid ghost. M.
I got to thinking that all ofthe movies and shows that seem to get
messed with on my DVD shows,our kids movies and shows or ones that
kids would like interesting. Do youthink if it's a kid ghost they would
(36:15):
be like trying to, you know, pull out the DVD one of their
favorite shows. Hmmm mmmmm. Idon't know. Keep us posted in the
end of Johnny if it keeps happening, set up a set up a static
cam. No, no, no, no, you don't want to you
(36:37):
want to see footage? No,yeah, I don't know. A kid
ghosts are kind of a thousand timescreep a thousand times creepier than adult ghosts.
M. You're right, true story. Um, that'll lead me into
our movie review. Um. Oh, hey, we did here. I
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wanted to give a show out toLouis the Dork. He said, love
the movie reviews, huge horror fanof the huge horror fan. Of course,
you guys keep getting better, Uh, Louis the Dork, thank you,
And I hope because we did onein the last episode, we're gonna
do one now. We're hopefully we'regonna get better and better at doing these
but we My goal is to youknow, help you know, if if
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you're into this kind of stuff,like maybe he turned onto a movie you've
never heard of or haven't seen ornever saw because it didn't get the marketing
budget of you know, a Marvelmovie, or you were too scared to
watch the first time, or ifyou're like to watch. Um, we
just just got a comment on theyou tubes. That's right. We have
(37:47):
a YouTube channel where you know,we repost the shows for people like to
listen to podcast on YouTube. Um, someday we'll do more video. But
anyway, Hometown seven said, gota question for the community. Has anyone
ever heard of Frank mister Bigfoot eatingfamilies pets such as small dogs or cats.
(38:09):
Oh, Frank would never do suchabout you Bigfoot? Uh I I
haven't heard of that, but tobe honest, it's it would make sense,
yeah, that you know, aBigfoot like creature, you know,
grab a dog and if he's hungry. I don't I don't think they're vegetarian.
(38:36):
Earlier episodes like ah, you know, maybe I'll probably he was being
vegan at the time. Maybe Bigfootvegan too, right, No, I
think he probably eats both meat andlike berries and stuff like like an omnivore.
Yeah, and you know animals,pets can't control themselves. They'll be
barking and being annoying. Yeah.Um, you know, if bigfoots are
(39:01):
around, there certainly would be alot of commotion. I actually don't think
bigfoot would. If I'm hungry,just do this. It's more of a
this thing's annoying me, so I'mjust going to kill it and then,
oh, I'm not gonna waste anything. I don't know when my next meal
might come. So yeah, Idon't I have no scientific proof, but
(39:22):
I would think that, yes,if given the opportunity, would eat a
dog or a cat because it hasto survive, and I think it's a
hunter. Yeah, I don't know. Man. I hope I didn't fend
all of you pet owners. Iown a pet. I don't want to
bigfoot eat my doggie? Right,some days I do. Kidding Lulu,
(39:49):
that got awkward, all right?Was jumping to this movie review again.
I was thinking I wanted to paira movie that would kind of like be
similar to the main topic. Sothis was a Cursed town and so the
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movie is called We Are Still Herefrom twenty fifteen, as Sean mccomber from
Fangoria says, a sublime concoction ofcreepy, dread and outright terror. Dave
just on Sean's uh quote, I'mcurious, did you watch the movie?
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No? I didn't think. Ididn't think you would. I read the
plot on Wikipedia, which is howI watch horror movies. I have to
read the plot first to know what'scoming, and I'm like, no,
even this just sounds terrible. Notterrible in a bad movie way, terrible.
I don't want to experience this.Here's the sybnopsis from the press kit
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because the website's still up so Isnagged it. After the death of their
college aged son, Anne and PaulShakeetti, with Barbara Crampton and Andrew Signs
relocate to the snow swept New Englandhamlet see New England, so we're already
in the area, and this iswhy we're tying it with sorry. The
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snow swept New England hamlet of Aylesbury, a sleepy village where all is most
certainly not as it seems. Whenstrange sounds and eerie feelings convince Anne that
her sun spirit is still with them, they invited eccentric new aged couple played
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by Larry Feasiden and Lisa Marie tohelp them get to the bottom of a
mystery. They discover that not onlyare the house's first residence, the vengeful
Dagmar family still Oh, let mereread that again. I'm not gonna edit
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any of this out. They discoverthat not only are the house's first residence,
the vengeful Dagmar family still there,but so as an ancient power,
a primal darkness slumbers under the oldhome, waking up every thirty years and
demanding the fresh blood of a newfamily. And all together new take on
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the haunted house genre that definitely mixesa human drama and comedy. We Are
Still Here is a couple's terrifying journeythrough darkness and loss, set against the
freezing New England winter. Where didyou say comedy? Yeah, I think
there's some elements of that would makeyou chuckle. But did you didn't watch
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it right? No, because nothingin the wikipedia plot had anything to do
with any kind of humor or soI feel it ties into the topic of
this episode because New England. Yeahyeah, uh town. But so within
the story, it's not just ahaunted House story, right, some of
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the things going on in or becausethe town themselves, yeah, are responsible
for some of the shenanigans. Now, this does star Barbara Crampton, Yes,
and I'm sure any horror fans alreadyknow that legend. She started stuff
like a reanimator chopping him off frombeyond. There also some newer things you
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might be familiar with Your Next andLords of Salem, that Rob zombie pick.
Okay, dave you seen none ofthose, right, I've only heard
of one of those. And LarryVeastin, who was in Stakland, he
was also in Your Next. Apersonal favorite of mine that nobody has ever
(44:02):
heard of. That almost was thetopic the movie for this one. Jug
face. Yeah, I've heard ofthat one, probably because I told you
I used to have a poster hangingin the basement because I met the producer
and he was shocked when I saidI love that movies like you've heard of
it, And I don't think thatwas like that much of a negative,
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but it's it's a very indie horrorflick and just that randomly, I'm like,
dude, I love that movie.No love could be a strong word.
I haven't seen it for a while. I just remember seeing it and
going like, okay, so youcan make a a small budget indie horror
film taking place in the Appalachian Mountainsand it's really good. So again story
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sometimes trump's all the expensive equipment.That's true. Yeah, so I knew,
But anyway, that's not the movie. Um, yeah, we are
still here. It's set in likethe seventies again in New England, and
it's cold and they did film itin February and they said it was bitter
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cold, like it was a wickedbad in February. You can almost see
it in some of the actors.You're there, Yeah, you're right now.
You can feel yeah, the coldwhen you're watching it. Now,
the first nine minutes of this moviethere's no dialogue. Yeah, and rewatching
it, I'm like, this isthis is cool because the actors everything has
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to kind of convey through the cinematographyand what the actors are doing. Right,
So within that night minutes number one, and some of the shots and
the angles and the camera work arewonderful. They're beautiful, and so just
through the acting and then bringing intheir furniture, they got this new house.
Barbara Crampton puts up a photover kid. We start, we already get
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the sense that they lost their son, right, not a single bit of
dialogue needed to happen, but youstill get that. And then then they
start living in the house a littlebit, and I think at one point
she wakes up and sees something standingin her doorway, a shadowy figure,
right, But then I think theheat. She's like, man, I
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smell I smell smoke. So they'renot sure why they call electrician. And
this is when it amps up andlike it really goes for it. This
poor electrician comes over check this houseout and goes down the basement. And
again it's one of those basements soyou're like, oh, we should film
a scary movie. It's a it'snot a really nice base when you're like,
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you know what, we should fixthis up and make them put a
bar down here. But it happensfast. I did forget though. When
she did go down the basement checkshe found ball glove with her son's name
on it. Her her son who'spast ball glove. So she's convinced that
her son somehow the spirits here withthem, right, But anyway, this
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poor electrician goes down there and thesethe ghosts in this basement who are all
like charred, yes and scary.They just are immediately just out. You
would, Dave, you would hatethis scene because there's jump scares and they
eventually do touch with the electrician.They screens because they burned them. Yeah,
And I'm like, I love goingfrom nine minutes of no dialogue and
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then we get this scene pulled rightinto like all right, so this house
is effing terrifying, right right,we should get out of here. I
won't keep talking. Lish what doyou think of that scene? Wait to
wait to burn me in here?No, through you, through the baseball
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catch it in Bobbies her dead son'sglove? Right? Oh? No,
I feel like you and I were, um, we were talking while we
were watching it as far as likenever No, we were trying to speculate,
like why would she think her sonis trapped there? Or why is
her son trap there? And Ifelt like it was it was more or
less maybe they were keeping his memorythere, like keeping the spirit trapped there.
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I got the impression that does thespirit of Bobby might have still been
attached to her right who she wasnot willing to let go right of her
kid just yet it's too painful.She loves her some so somehow she her
the spirit of her Bobby stay thereto this house, which wasn't the best
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thing because this house it's bad,right, But I just love going in
right into horror after like just examining, like getting like a lesson in filmmaking
with the way the shots were,the way we didn't need dialogue. We
didn't Barbara Crampton and the other guyto be like, h hey, honey,
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it is so sad that we lostour kid here, right maybe this
new life we're starting with this,we didn't need any of that barbage dialogue
right now. I feel like theyjust told it through acting right. This
this movie is a perfect example ofshow, don't tell right, you know
what I mean. And then whenthey showed the ghosty things in the basement
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though, you were like, yes, show but anyway, So there's a
point where Larry fees and at leastMarie they're coming up and Larry Fesen is
kind of like a medium or apsychic, so he's going to maybe help
out because you know, Barbacrampon isconvinced like, hey, the spirit of
my kids here. But anyway,they get up there and they decided to
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go out for dinner and they walkinto this bar and it literally like a
record skip. Everybody just stops atdoing and just looks at them. And
this is what I feel like,you get the really good idea that oh,
this town sucks, yeah, andthey're up to no good now.
Earlier in the movie, a guydid show up to welcome them, and
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I think that was kind of likeletting you know that it's not good.
But he told the story of like, oh, who used to live in
this house? And the guy's like, well, you know, hey,
it's the uh Skeedonelli's house now Andthe guy's like, no, it's still
Dagmar's house. And then it leavesa right. So it's kind of like,
oh, okay, no, I'mnot gonna go into deep spoilers,
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but I'm hoping you are getting thesense that this movie is bringing, like,
you know, good bits of dramaand harbor and melting into this into
the seventies kind of setting. Yeah, and there is a possession scene where
Larry Fesantin gets possessed. That's prettyamazing. But Listenny, I want to
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kick over here to some fun factsand Larry G's comment. But I'm not
gonna sit here to sell everybody themovie beat for beat, right, because
if you don't stop me, that'swhat's going to happen. But I want
people to watch the movie. Ithink this movie is worth watching. Absolutely
As somebody who isn't like huge intohorror or whatever, I did enjoy it.
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I know now I will watch it. But it's not like something that
I that's not my first choice,right, Um, But I do like
this movie because it's not just horror, it's it's paranormal. Um. There's
a lot of really uh interesting dynamicsbetween you know, the townfolk, um,
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the people that are living in thishouse, and then trying to discover
why there's also an ancient evil rights. Yeah, and you know again,
I didn't watch the movie, butreading the plot of the movie, it
reminded me of like an inverse ofa HP Lovecrafts The Dunwich Horror. So
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that almost was the movie. Waitfor this episode. Oh yeah, I
didn't know that was a movie.No, yeah, it's a movie,
Okay. I just know the storyand the only reason the end of the
story is from the Fallout series videogames. They do a lot with Dunwich,
and so I've read up on whatyou know. The Dunwich story is
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in that the family is the possessedone, not possessed one, but the
cursed one. Then the ancient evilthey're trying to keep hidden of the town
is trying to prevent it. Thisis kind of the inverse where the town
is, you know, the thebad and the family is trying yea.
So it's where do you think theDunwich Horror takes place? It's in nineteen
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seventy film, okay, but wheredo you think it takes place? Guessing
by that somewhere in New England Massachusetts'sNew England? Is why do you have
all the ancient ones? Yeah,we want an ancient one down here in
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PA. Now we don't, right, But so the again, it sounded
just some of the scenes, evenin the plot it sounded too. So
there's out. But there's a momentin the movie beginning when that couple comes
over to welcome he talks about theDagmar the dude and he was like a
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mortician, and he was like takingthe bodies and selling them and I think
it was burying empty coffins or something. But he refers to uh that this
guy was sent them to some university, which is from HP Lovecraft. Uh
story, okay, so tying inHP Lovecraft a little bit. I didn't
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get it right right away, butI saw fact Yeah, me too,
and I had that on my Ohno, read it, read it?
Do it better better. During hisspeech about the Dagmar family, dave U
notes that the homes first owner soldcorpses to the university over in Essex County,
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a reference to HP Lovecraft's fictional misMiskatonic University, which was located there.
Good job, I should have justkicked that over to you, Dave.
You're gonna enjoy this one. Butin the film, throughout the movie
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they're drinking this B and Jay whiskey, which was really prominent one seeing like
when Larry feast In and at leastMarie got there and they, uh,
we're gonna have some drinks. Butlike the label they really they really showed
the label no right. But Ialso remarked when he was making some drinks,
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like he put him on a trayand walked them over the cost I'm
like, is that how they didin the seventies, Because it actually be
like all right, come, comeget your drink. Right. He put
him on a little tray, walkedhim over. I'm like, all right,
hospitality. But so it was beingJay Whiskey. It could be seen
it's an homage to J and BScotch, a real life brand of alcohol
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that was often seen in Italian horrorand exploitation films during the seventies and early
eighties. Even the label design isvery similar. So interesting as a designer,
I'm like, Okay, that's cool. Yeah, just but I would
never know that from Italian harm.I've only seen a few films, so
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I thought, I thought that wasinteresting. And that's that's the attention to
detail. That's a guy who's makingthat guy who made this film really loves
certain genre films and he was pullingelements into this nice and maybe it's only
for people that I get it.Sorry, Oh, and I feel like
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if you don't put in jump scars, I probably could be one of those
people that you'd be like, Iwould get it. No, it's from
Italian. It's homage to Italian horrormovies, so you would never know the
homage because you don't watch horror moviesperiod. That's what I'm saying if you
only watch Italian horror movies, thenI would be really impressed. Right.
No, I'm saying that all horrormovies just cut out the jump scares.
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Stop using that technique, that cliche, that's the word I'm looking forward.
But it works sometimes, it reallydoes work. A really good cat scare
or jump scare done right is stillgreat. It's the ones that when you're
watching, like, maybe not sucha good horror movie, and they keep
hitting you would jump scares, catscares, that's what's kind of like,
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Okay, you have nothing, nothingelse. Yeah, but yeah, then
I could be a I love theconcept of horror and suspense and all of
that. I would love this ifit just didn't have the jump scares.
Okay. Another fun fact, tellTales signed. The film was shot in
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a town close to the US Canadianborder. The most in Canadian beer light
you can see in the Buffalo Bill'sbar. Nice, but I guess,
I mean, I don't think Ithink moston's sold everywhere, right all right?
Yeah, anyway, I don't wantto get too deep because I would
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rather let a listener get a littletoo deep for everybody. So we were
not trying to spoil it because Ihighly recommend you check it out. But
Larry Gee would like to spoil it, and he's got an excellent moveor review,
and that's why we're going to lethis review wrapped this segment up.
Larry G. Heck of a greatjob here, and we'll have some thoughts
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on what you said after Dave readsthis. Right, I figured if I
didn't have a movie review, youshould read Larry Yes. Yeah, so
Larry G says, warning I spoilstuff. This movie's eight years old,
so get over it. Yeah.So I hadn't realized that actually watched this
before, but it was a verygood memory to bring back when I started
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watching it. The story really isn'tanything special, disagree, especially when put
against slightly more modern movies. Familywith a tragic past moves into a house
with a dark history. It findsa cult like group that wants the haunted
house to eat said family. Sothe story doesn't help much, but the
special effects are pretty amazing For theirpractical effects, the Dagmars, in all
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their black into a crisp glory weretruly a sight to be seen. Another
highlight was the possession scene a sockor something similar was put into the friend's
mouth to keep him from speaking,and unlike all the other movies where the
demonic force is foiled by something assimple as an article of clothing, he
actually swallows the sock, complete withcontorting throat effects and all, yeah,
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that's scene. You'd love that,dad. Well, I mean, is
it scary, like like I'm guessingit's intense, but is it jump scary
scary or because I guess, okay, intense? So yeah, you wouldn't
be bothered by it. No,that's the kind of thing I would enjoy.
You know that. That's my kindof thing. But anyways, back
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to the review, The ending ispretty interesting, with it not completely being
the ghosts being the bad thing andthe townsfolk being the bigger issue. My
one true problem with the ending,and truly the entire movie, is that
there's a lot of space for lorethat there wasn't just anything put in place.
This is a movie that, ifit had a stronger following, could
have been used as a prequel,or could have used a pre quel and
(01:00:00):
a sequel, if only to getthe Lord of the Dagmar family and the
rest of the story out a littlemore cohesively. All you really have is
five minutes of vague dialogue towards theend that kind of gives you the reason,
gives you a reason as to whythe townsfolk are absolutely nuts and the
Dagmar family were not the villains.I totally want a prequel that shows the
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town unearthing old gods and sacrificing afamily to make this pact. All in
all, I give it seven outof ten for story and a seven and
a half out of ten for effects. I think that's actually, again Larry
g accellent review. Yeah, betterthan what we just did. We want
a review. We were talking sevenout ten. I think that rating is
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fair and accurate. The effects aregreat, seven out of ten. Yeah,
I mean, how that's that's athat's a good tomato, right right,
yeah, not a squash tomato.Right Yeah. The reason I picked
this movie as I love Indye Har. I love small budget Indie har that
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that like in this case, ittook place mostly just this house. They
didn't have like a lot of sets, big sets. I just kind of
love just seeing what a storyteller cando with this limited and I think they
crushed it and I think it's worthseeing. And he's right, if it
had, if it got a biggerfollowing, maybe they would have done right.
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And we all love ancient evil underthe ground. Oh gods, Cathulu,
I mean we don't love them.I mean storytelling right, right.
There's some cults to do, butwe're working on them. We're working on
a concept right now with the kindof vibe of an ancient evil under this
town more of a comedy. Butyeah, we are still here. I
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recommend it. I will go herewith Larry g and give it a seven
out of ten. Yeah. Theeffects are great. Um, the acting
is great too. It really it'sgood. It's worth your time if you're
into this kind of stuff. Butmaybe a little slow burn at times two.
(01:02:14):
So don't expect scream like out ofthe gage, just murdering mayhem.
Let the story tell, let's letit tell you. What's up? Enjoy
it, sit back, drink aMoulson. All right, that's what.
That's the third movie review we've done. I hope you're enjoying them, but
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I would love to know if youlike them and you want more, and
do you like trying to pair amovie with a topic. So that way,
if you listen to the show andyou're like, oh, I want
to watch that movie. It kindof is like a it's like a food
in beer parting. Right, doyou like that? It's okay you don't,
but go to peril Punches dot com. Then you'll find all the way
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to contact us and let us knowif you like it or don't like him,
or what if you have an ideathat works, you should talk about
this haunted location with this movie.Hey, let us know. That would
be awesome, right, And doyou like if you like the show?
Not? Do you If you likethe show and you listen to us on
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Apple and Spotify, hit that fivestar it does help the show? Why?
It just helps us move up inthe ranks and more people get the
get eyes on us and get earson us. So if you want to
do that, Dave, anything else, I was just gonna say, along
with the you know sending in youknow, whether you like the movie,
reviews and potential topics and things likethat, if anybody has recommendations on either
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movies without jump scares that I shouldwatch or Gateway movies that kind of ease
me that maybe I'll get more intoit. Give me some advice so that
I could maybe participate a little bitmore. We're one that will ruin day
forever. You get one of thoselish No. I think we covered everything.
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We did a really good job withthe movie. Were you so River?
Is that it? That's it,darling, I am, I'm good.
Well, thank you so much spendingyour time with us. We appreciate
it. And remember it's not weird. It's not worth checking out.
Paranormal Punches is part of the PodbellyNetwork. Go to podbelly dot com for
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I'm Mark, I'm Alicia, I'mDave. No Nash but we were
at his strong man event today.He was crushing it. I think he
ended up please seeing a second soNash, awesome job. Definitely. It's
excited to come back for the nexttopic. But you crushed it, dude,
so congratulations. Now on this episode, we're gonna talk about the very
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cursed, haunted town of Dudleytown inConnecticut. We also ask some listener feedback,
and we also have a movie review. We're gonna do that kind of
partners pairs with our topic of today, So why don't we jump right into
it? Okay, Dullytown, DelhiTown. I said bad, I'm hungry.
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Yeah. Dudleytown, an abandoned settlementlocated in the Dark Entry Forests near
Cornwall, Connecticut, is a smallvillage that most people avoid because it is
thought to be cursed. A cursedlocation due to its dark history. But
now you can't. You have toavoid it. Yes, most people avoid
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it. So, um, whatyou're not allowed to go in it's private
proper. Yeah, yeah, Iknow. We say that to the end,
right and people are like, I'mexcited to go to this, like,
but you can't. Right. SoDudley Town it was never really an
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actual town. The name was givento this area of Cornwall because several members
of the Dudley family lived there inthe seventeen forties. Doesn't that make it
a town? No, a coupleof people built houses said this is a
town. It really does counn rightnow, it's more I would say it's
more like a village. So it'snot like a huge area. But um,
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yeah, it's not an actual town. It's actually more like a settlement
maybe a village. Yeah, andget into that a little bit later.
But yeah, it really had nothing. Yeah, there was nothing there besides
people. Wow. Um, speakingof our movie review, we should have
did the village. Yeah no,no, we're not doing sorry. Uh.
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The land was first owned by ThomasGriffiths, one of the first settlers
in the area. Eventually it wasnamed Dudley Town after several Dudley brothers came
to the area along with apparently afamily curse. We're not going to go
into this family curse because it datesback to like England and the Dudley family
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over there are not even related tothe Dudley members that came over here.
But it is a common exception.You hear that tied quite often. Yes,
and not to go into it.But it's basically the royalty, not
royalty nobility over there. The Dudleyswere nobility and they plotted to kill the
king and got executed. And butthere's no relation though, no connection to
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this. No, they just hadthe same last name, so you could
say it's a curse for the name, but not for that actual family.
Um. Now, in seventeen fortyseven, Gideon Dudley he bought some land
from Griffiths to start a small farm. By seventeen fifty three, Gideon's two
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brothers, bars A Lie and AbrielDudley also purchased land nearby. Those are
some names, say we're gon we'regonna address those names. Yeah, Barsil
Fly, No, it's bars ALie Lie Yeah, b A r z
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A l l Ai. Is thathow you would say it? BARSL Lie
I don't know, show can sayI know and Abriel so A B I
E. L. Dudley, hewould just be a but kind of shortening
you would do for bar Barsley.Now. Um, a few years later
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Martin Dudley from Massa. Now hewas from Massachusetts. He also moved to
the area. He also had therewas no relation to that actual family.
Um, but he just had thesame last name. Um, he had
any of the same first name.Now. He later married Gideon's daughter.
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So it's just too right. It'sjust too This is why the area is
called Dudleytown is because a bunch ofDudley's they just showed up Leys. Yeah.
Um. So at that points settlersbegan to trickle into the area,
and the community grew even larger afteran iron ore was discovery nearby. Um.
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There were never any stores, shops, schools, or even churches in
Dudleytown. Visions had to be purchasedin other towns, and any funerals had
to be elsewhere since there were newchurches or even cemeteries, right, and
a lot of that dealt with Becauseof the landscape, this wasn't an easy
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terrain to It wasn't actually very goodfor agriculture, which is amazing that that's
how it got started. Was nowbought it to start farm? Yeah yeah.
It basically sat on a hill insidea valley and it was you know
forests and you know rocks and justhills and all that. Nothing really made
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it good for people in any way, shape or form, yet they tried
all right. Now, the populationof Dudleytown was never large and according to
a map from eighteen fifty four,the most number of families that even lived
there were twenty six. So likeit wasn't a very which is why it
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wasn't a town, right per seUm, Now, this small village was
repeatedly plagued by murder, suicide,madness or insanity, disappearances, and even
failed businesses. And we'll go intotwenty six people. That's just the bar
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well farms, right, so um, go ahead, still have a better
shot starting a bar true story.It does make me laugh at the at
the failed businesses come at the endafter insanity and murders. Yeah. Now,
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so I'm just going to go throughsome of them. You guys can
jump in with things that you guyshave as well, because I don't.
I don't have all of them.Okay, I just have certain ones.
Um Abol Dudley he suffered from dementiaand insanity in his old age. He
died in the town at the ageof ninety. So he was one of
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the people that just went crazy.Abiel's good friend, Gershaw Hollister, he
felt to his death while building abarn for his neighbor William Tanner in seventeen
ninety two. Tanner wittensane and claimedthat a strange animal from the forest apparently
killed Hollister, which he died fromfalling. But now the wife of Herman
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Swift, who was a Revolutionary Wargeneral, he was struck and killed by
lightning while standing. She was standingon their porch when she was struck.
Herman wittensane And died not too longafter her death. Their home was near
Dubleytown. It wasn't actually in thevillage or whatever, but it was like
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right there. One of the lastresidents of the town was a man named
John Patrick Brophy. His wife diedof consumption, which was not uncommon at
that time. Tuberculous, right,is that what it is? Yeah?
Just a short time later, histwo children vanished into the forest. It
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could have been because they were accusedof stealing slagh Bank blankets. But hey
man, how do you think theygot a round back then blankets? That's
a good deal, but being accusedthat, I feel like it didn't cost
that much money, so it wasn'ta big deal, no minor. Yeah,
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fans this demeanor maybe we call it. Yeah, but they still just
walked off into the forest. Yeah, never to be seen again. Kind
of sounds like a handsling gravel typething. Yeah, so yeah, they
were never found again. Um,shortly after their house burned to the ground
in an unexplained fire, and thennot too long after, Brophy himself into
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the forest and wasn't never seen again. And you can't think that he burned
his house down declaim insurance money becausewell problems no insurance back in the day.
So well, definitely not in thetown because there was no right businesses.
Right. No. The last thingthat I have is about doctor William
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Clark. But I knew you weregoing to talk about home, so oh
yeah, um yeah, so thedude had just walked off in the forest
he talked about. Uh so thatwas what the early nineteen hundreds, So
this thing has sat around abandoned.You know, I'm assuming also the forest
started to reclaim, right, youknow, you know there was just no
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I guess now you can see foundations, but you know how the woods does
it. How mother nature doesn't juststart erasing that you were even here,
right, right? But anyway,so around the nineteen twenties, this guy,
doctor William Clark, he came outto Cornwall, Connecticut, and he
just fell in love with that thatforest, how pristine it looked, and
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how quiet it was. And beinga doctor living in New York City,
you know, the hustle and bustleof nineteen twenties New York City, and
I think it was like extremely wellrespected. I think it might have been
a cancer doctor. He yeah,I think he was. It was cancer.
So he was just looking for aplace for him and his wife to
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get away from the city, andhe fell in love with his are in
Connecticut. He bought a thousand acresof land in this area, which included
what was is considered Dudley Town,and he wanted to build his summer home
or vacation home. M Now,he did have some trouble getting anybody to
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help him build it. They didn'twant anything to do with this area.
But he grew up on a farm, so he he knew how to build
a home himself, and he justwent to work, which that right there
almost blows my mind more than thecurse Land. Like, you know,
this doctor grew up in a farm. He's like, I can build my
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own house, right because I don'tthink a lot of people could do that
nowadays. Right, So that's amazing. Well, and while still practicing medicine,
right, you got in New York, you can damage your hands and
that's that's the moneymakers, right.Yeah, and he's from doctor Strange.
You gotta protectives. And he waspracticing in New York City, so he
was commuting back and forth. Soit's not one of those like, oh,
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I'm just going to you know,spend six months to build a house.
It's no, he had to keepworking. Well. Yeah, and
him and his wife, Harriet,they would go out there and stay while
I was still working on it,and you have having an awesome time.
And they loved the area, youknow, holiday there sometimes like Thanksgiving things
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like them. But anyway, soand they were always together and never any
issues. But one one time theywere up there and enjoying themselves, he
got called back to the office inNew York. Probably had to do surgery,
who knows what. But he wasgoing for thirty six hours. And
now he took the train and whenhe got the train and his wife wasn't
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there to pick him up, sohe walked back up to the cabin and
he found his wife basically gone insaneand she was talking about she saw strange
creatures in the forest and the attackedher then and sadly she did end up
committing suicide. Yeah, and thatwas practically the last time anybody tried to
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take up living in the in thatare right, right, Yeah, I
think he was one of the lastones, right, Yeah. But he
also did form the Dark Forest,Dark Entry Forest, Dark Entry Forest,
not coalition, No, it's likea land trust or something, right,
Yeah, to protect this area protectedor keep people out right, yeah right,
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but yeah, so uh one,do you have any Dave, any
other stories you want? Just nothing, you know, stories like that.
But the you know, just howthe town kind of degraded over time.
You know, the iron ore wastheir most popular thing, but with the
having to transport it, and likeI said, the land wasn't very easily
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traversed and it wasn't quality land.So it was one of those things that
over time it just made more senseto the iron or mines were moved closer
to the railroads, things like that. They had some water mills that were
producing things for the town. Um, over time they had issues with the
water and again the goods that wereproduced there having to do that travel wasn't
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worth it. So over time itjust died out, you know, as
a result of that. So itsounds like some of the problems would just
be too deep into this forest,right, it just wasn't easy to get
stuff in and out right cly chainissues man, all right, Um,
Which that's actually going back to thestory of the doctor. It's like,
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so how did he get notified thathe needed to go to New York?
That is an excellent question. Ido not have an answer right now.
I'm assuming telephone. I don't thinkit didn't have a pager, right well,
and I don't think telephone. Idon't even telegraph. But then they
would have to have a Horst code. But I mean they had most likely
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went to what was the town thatwas nearby Cornwall Cornwall, Um, that
would have been the closest, andthen they must have sent somebody up to
him. But oh yeah, that'sright. Right, So the telegraph comes
into somebody of the town, thenthey got to hike it all the way
up to get it right. Allright, I'm down with that. That
makes sense, Okay, Now,um, I believe in the early nineteen
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seventies, Ed and Lorraine Warren theyshowed up at one point. Yeah,
they actually recorded a Halloween special fromDudleytown and declaring it officially demonically possessed.
Wait it's a special. Yeah,they did a Halloween special. Yeah.
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I couldn't find it. I wantedto watch the special. I couldn't find
anything, but I did find aquote about it from Ed worm Um.
The Dudley's had an ancestor in Englandwho was a judge and condemned many people
to death for witchcraft. Mister Warrensaid the curse in Dudleytown started after the
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village became a thriving town. Peoplewent mad and reported seeing monstrosities in the
forest, things that were unnatural.Curse. What is a curse? Dudleytown
is cursed, and that is atract of land with an aur of disaster.
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Everyone left the town. Edwarren concluded, all right, so part of
that quote there doesn't make sense whenhe's talking about the village becoming a thriving
town, right when we know thatit was only like twenty six people and
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nobody can get a business off theground there twenty six families, there could
be a lot of people. Wellconsider you know, normally you think size
of force. That's what hundred andsix. I don't know that could see
like hustle and bustle back in backin the day. See, that's why
you had the bar, right,that's the business they should have started,
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right, Yeah, that's why theywent insane. They didn't have alcohol.
You're welcome. So we did mentionthis. But Dudleytown has been abandoned since
the early nineteen hundreds and it cannotbe visited because it is part of a
land trust. Today, only thecellar holes and a few stone foundations remain,
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and the roads that go into itare now little more than just narrow
trails. The area is covered inthick forest and the ground is strewn strewn
with rocks. The nearby mountains heavilyshadowed the area, so it receives little
sunlight. So yeah, I thoughtthat was part of the like some of
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the issues with the town. Theway that the forest and the canopy is
like it, Uh, it wouldget darker faster in this town because the
treat that the canopy was just massive. Yeah, so that hindered growing things
and maybe maybe even feeling good whenyou're like, yeah, oh no,
no more sunlight. You know,doesn't help your mental right stay Yeah,
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no vitamin d uh the uh sorry, just completely forgot what I was going
to say there. Yeah. Butyeah, even um, you know the
fact that it's rocky now means thatit's rocky land, So it's definitely not
gonna be good for agriculture. Um. Oh and you know, I think
that's where the term dark entry forestcame from. You know, this is
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one of those things where the forestis dark and spooky and it's it's not
inviting, it's it's one of thosethings that's stay out. It's a dark
entry point. Yeah. Um.So I have a quote from Dan Ackroid.
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Everybody Dan Accroid Ghostbusters? Who's hego? Well you might know from
Ghostbusters too. Yes. So thiswas a nineteen ninety three interview with Playboy.
But Playboy asked, did you believein ghosts as a child? Of
course, they had Sansas at theold family farm where I grew up.
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My mother witnesses an apparition. Ionce saw some lights I couldn't explain.
My father was a psychic researcher,so it was really passed down to me.
Playboy, it seems Ghostbusters is youridea of a documentary not fiction.
Are you pulling our leg? Definitelynot. The other day I read that
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howld ramis my colleague and Ghostbusters saidhe doesn't believe in ghosts, Playboy,
and that's a that is you,yes, because he is a very smart
person. I'm going to bring himto I'm going to bring him up to
Dudleytown, Massachusetts and scare the shitout of him. Sometime. I'll take
him to the most haunted place onEarth. He's my man, He's going.
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I can't believe he uh off handilysays he doesn't believe in ghosts when
in reality of life on this planet. All right, he's going to get
spank for that now. He saidDudleytown, Massachusetts, right, But in
research on Dudleytown in Connecticut, thisis what always came up. Okay,
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so hey, dan Ackroid, hehad it wrong because Connecticut. But Bro,
not only that it sounds like he'sa kindred spirit of nash Oh looking
up researching the wrongn not that theuh that you know, fictional stories are
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actually documentaries, and I thought thatwas I thought that was interesting. They
were talking about this town. Okay. Now, even though you can't visit,
people have. There's been a fewthat have been invited in UM and
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quite a few have snuck in.And I found some paranimal stuff that they
have experienced there. Now people havehad an overwhelming feeling of dread, terror
or fear here UM. Others havebeen overwhelmed with sadness. They report the
feeling of being watch or a feelingof suffocation. UM. It is supposedly
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silent here, like if you werein a recording booth or recording studio booth.
UM. Like it is that quiet, like there's no insects, there's
no animals. Like. It's interesting. UM. Strange unexplainable things have been
captured on photographs and alternately, somephotos taken here will not develop properly.
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Is their faces all blurry? Ifit in the ring? I don't know.
Um, I didn't see any photos, so I have no idea.
But now mysterious lights and orbs havebeen seen in here. Um. People
have seen whispy apparitions in the woods, and visitors to the era have also
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been touched, pushed, or scratchedby unseen hands. That's messed up,
yeah inside you yeah uh. Andthen um, there were several instances um
of strange creatures that we had mentionedpreviously that would come out of the woods
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at night. Um. Some researchersconsidered this place to be a negative power
spot where things just can enter thisworld from the other side. They believe
that this could be right, theycould explain the strange creature being seen,
or even the outbreaks of insanity likethat it's just this weird void or whatever.
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But well, and I forgot theone other thing. Um, there
was an outbreak of plague, notan not bubonic plague, but there was
some sort of a disease pestilence thatwent through the town. But they were
so secluded it didn't really make senseof why the villagers would get sick like
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that. So it's right, youcame through the portal m now, and
that brings me to theories that wecould bring up. You guys want to
go into that, but sure,so, is this a portal of some
kind this area, um, andwhy would it be a portal? Like
was it has it always been aportal or was it opened for some reason?
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But we're supposed to have an answer. Yeah, you know, I
thought maybe you guys could oh uhfor me, Nothing about this sounds like
a portal. No, it soundslike poor a city planning. True,
you know, maybe this area wasn'tthe right spot right now. People talking
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about seeing shadows and things in theforest. You know, I don't know
about that, but portal. Idon't think something's coming through here. I
mean I could if it's a portal. It's a one way coming in right,
right, right, Although I guessthe people went disappearing yep, maybe
I don't know. I don't know, but I want to get into that.
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I have a theory of my own. So wait till later. But
the uh, how much later doyou want to wait? She has a
list of theories to go, Okay, the second half later tonight. I
didn't know what you're next episode now. I also came across that apparently it
was a Native American burial ground.Um, and I can't remember the name
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of the tribe that was in thatarea. I can't remember now. Um,
but I only found it in acouple of spots, so I don't
know. I could be roun.Dave's looking at it right now, but
I thought I came across something.It was also the Mohican tribe? Was
it? So Dave's going to verifyRemember that movie The Last Mohicans didn't take
place up in Uh that? Yeah? No, you're right, it did.
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Um, great movie, Daniel dayLewis, Uh, yeah, I
don't know. You are correct?Owesome, Well Mohicans, I don't know.
I don't remember where is a goodmovie took place? But how to
take place up there? Now,I'll look that up. Uh. The
next thing is mass hysteria, whichI don't know if I buy. But
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they were talking about like some ofthe how some of the families they all
started getting a little crazy and thatmaybe it just was kind of a they
were spreading it to each other asfar as through hysteria. But okay,
like George, New York, Ohright, so okay, not Connecticut,
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but we're close enough, right,wow, And we we like to visit
Lake joh I know, we loveAnd then the last one I have is
it it's been suggested that the groundwateris contaminated with the lead, which could
also offer an explanation for the numberof deaths or pass people going crazy.
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I guess. But Dave, thisis now the thing you had that you'd
like to talk about. Sure,okay, it was a good time.
I think it's a great time.So, um, haunted forest overall.
I mean, if we're going totalk about a documentary on haunted forests,
we have to go to Rahmanhood,Prince of Thieves, and that Sherwood Forest
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was haunted and no one wanted togo in there and everybody was scared of
it. But the ghosts were actuallya settlement of people who just wanted to
get away. I think the samething happened here, Like Dudleytown was encroaching
from the city folk into this societythat they had built in this forest,
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and so when they saw figures comingout, it was these forest folk that
it was the merry men or yeah, that were they were trying to scare
people away, and the people thatwent insane and wandered into the forest they
were to be seen. They joinedin this, and yeah, I think
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it makes perfect sense. Yeah,Okay, nash uh is that is that
that was I mean, that's yeah, I mean I was I was expecting
more dialogue to No. I justhad a shocked look in my vace.
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Yeah all right, No, okay, you're saying that the twenty six families
of Dudleytown wanted to live remotely andbe left alone. So if anybody tried
to come in, they're like,no, no, that Dudleytown was the
city folk encroaching in this. Uhthis is this is during the Revolutionary War,
you know, starting that whole concept. So those are the people that
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moved into the woods and like aworld free of the English rule and hiding
in the farm being scared out bypeople say hey, we've been hanging out
it for a while. We don'twant you. Correct and you're you're failed
businesses to mess up our farest rightYeah okay, ye, all right,
well that makes little more sense.Yeah, cool. Uh back to Alicia,
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basically a deli town. It failedbecause of that core farming conditions and
a lack of financial opportunities that youknow, business wise, So um,
that's why it didn't thrive. Butoh, one other thing I wanted to
bring up, Um, Mark,you and I were geocashing and we got
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separated at one point and we wereno more than what a hundred yards from
each other, and we could nothear each other. We had, right,
we had no idea what you gottaken down by a badger? Right,
Oh, I would think it wouldbe a bear. But okay,
but I'm you know, in adark wood, dark entry wood. I
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mean, obviously it's it's dark,it's scary, it's and the fact that
no sound means that the canopy,the tree line, that all of that
is enough to prevent sound from reallytraveling. So it's it's quiet, and
you're not going to hear these things. So people going into the woods,
it's very easy that they just disappeared. You know. It doesn't mean that
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they they could have walked to anothertown or something and just never be found
again. But you're not going tofind them in the forest. I mean,
it's also possible that they were like, you know this town, yeah,
and they just left, yeah,to go somewhere. You know,
maybe they went up to Boston,right, Yeah, Yeah, I didn't
get some duncan. I did seeone person saying that they felt like maybe
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the creatures in the woods that theywere seeing were luring people into the forest.
But we know, uh, thisjust jumped in my mind. But
we'll see you know Connecticut. Soin Massachusetts we have the the Bridgewater Triangle.
Within the Bridgewater Triangle is the puckWatchie who is infamous for luring people
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into the woods and then dispatching them. Yeah. So I don't know.
It could be a cousin or ohor the patch. I don't doubt the
puck watching is limited to just Massachusetts, right, Okay, all right,
well, why don't we take aquick break and we'll come back with some
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listener feedback, some movie talk,uh, some other stuff that I can't
think of at the moment. Sowe'll be right back and we're back,
all rights. Uh, that wasfun yep. Uh, something I I
didn't know about this town until Idon't know, last month or something.
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I just want to be fun totalk about. Uh. And again,
people try to go there, theywill. They have police to patrol that
era, they will, they willarrest, yeah and find you. But
I know some people do sneak in, yeah, to check it out.
Um. I would like David wherever, Connecticut. If there's some geo cashes
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in Dudleytown, we kind of haveto go for him, right, Um,
with permission. I don't trustpass ohokay, yeah too older break laws
right, Okay. The only placeI'll trespass is Chernobyl. I really want
to wander around that. But that'sa different story for another day. All
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for a dollar. All right.So we heard from Indiana Johnny, if
you remember from last episode, hehad yet again something messing with his DVDs.
Yeah, so he has a followup. Oh and we send Johnny
a sticker. I don't know ifhe got it yet, but Johnny can't
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get two stickers. But thank youfor letting us share your stories. We
only have so many stickers. Well, because if you let us share your
story on our show, we'll sendyou a parallel bunch of sticker. Anyway,
Indiana, Johnny had to follow upto that situation he had. I
was talking to a friend yesterday aboutthe recent experiences at my townhouse, the
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DVDs being mess with, the runningup and down the upstairs hallway, and
he's said it sounds like it couldbe a little kid ghost. M.
I got to thinking that all ofthe movies and shows that seem to get
messed with on my DVD shows,our kids movies and shows or ones that
kids would like interesting. Do youthink if it's a kid ghost they would
(36:15):
be like trying to, you know, pull out the DVD one of their
favorite shows. Hmmm mmmmm. Idon't know. Keep us posted in the
end of Johnny if it keeps happening, set up a set up a static
cam. No, no, no, no, you don't want to you
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want to see footage? No,yeah, I don't know. A kid
ghosts are kind of a thousand timescreep a thousand times creepier than adult ghosts.
M. You're right, true story. Um, that'll lead me into
our movie review. Um. Oh, hey, we did here. I
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wanted to give a show out toLouis the Dork. He said, love
the movie reviews, huge horror fanof the huge horror fan. Of course,
you guys keep getting better, Uh, Louis the Dork, thank you,
And I hope because we did onein the last episode, we're gonna
do one now. We're hopefully we'regonna get better and better at doing these
but we My goal is to youknow, help you know, if if
(37:22):
you're into this kind of stuff,like maybe he turned onto a movie you've
never heard of or haven't seen ornever saw because it didn't get the marketing
budget of you know, a Marvelmovie, or you were too scared to
watch the first time, or ifyou're like to watch. Um, we
just just got a comment on theyou tubes. That's right. We have
(37:47):
a YouTube channel where you know,we repost the shows for people like to
listen to podcast on YouTube. Um, someday we'll do more video. But
anyway, Hometown seven said, gota question for the community. Has anyone
ever heard of Frank mister Bigfoot eatingfamilies pets such as small dogs or cats.
(38:09):
Oh, Frank would never do suchabout you Bigfoot? Uh I I
haven't heard of that, but tobe honest, it's it would make sense,
yeah, that you know, aBigfoot like creature, you know,
grab a dog and if he's hungry. I don't I don't think they're vegetarian.
(38:36):
Earlier episodes like ah, you know, maybe I'll probably he was being
vegan at the time. Maybe Bigfootvegan too, right, No, I
think he probably eats both meat andlike berries and stuff like like an omnivore.
Yeah, and you know animals,pets can't control themselves. They'll be
barking and being annoying. Yeah.Um, you know, if bigfoots are
(39:01):
around, there certainly would be alot of commotion. I actually don't think
bigfoot would. If I'm hungry,just do this. It's more of a
this thing's annoying me, so I'mjust going to kill it and then,
oh, I'm not gonna waste anything. I don't know when my next meal
might come. So yeah, Idon't I have no scientific proof, but
(39:22):
I would think that, yes,if given the opportunity, would eat a
dog or a cat because it hasto survive, and I think it's a
hunter. Yeah, I don't know. Man. I hope I didn't fend
all of you pet owners. Iown a pet. I don't want to
bigfoot eat my doggie? Right,some days I do. Kidding Lulu,
(39:49):
that got awkward, all right?Was jumping to this movie review again.
I was thinking I wanted to paira movie that would kind of like be
similar to the main topic. Sothis was a Cursed town and so the
(40:12):
movie is called We Are Still Herefrom twenty fifteen, as Sean mccomber from
Fangoria says, a sublime concoction ofcreepy, dread and outright terror. Dave
just on Sean's uh quote, I'mcurious, did you watch the movie?
(40:36):
No? I didn't think. Ididn't think you would. I read the
plot on Wikipedia, which is howI watch horror movies. I have to
read the plot first to know what'scoming, and I'm like, no,
even this just sounds terrible. Notterrible in a bad movie way, terrible.
I don't want to experience this.Here's the sybnopsis from the press kit
(40:59):
because the website's still up so Isnagged it. After the death of their
college aged son, Anne and PaulShakeetti, with Barbara Crampton and Andrew Signs
relocate to the snow swept New Englandhamlet see New England, so we're already
in the area, and this iswhy we're tying it with sorry. The
(41:22):
snow swept New England hamlet of Aylesbury, a sleepy village where all is most
certainly not as it seems. Whenstrange sounds and eerie feelings convince Anne that
her sun spirit is still with them, they invited eccentric new aged couple played
(41:42):
by Larry Feasiden and Lisa Marie tohelp them get to the bottom of a
mystery. They discover that not onlyare the house's first residence, the vengeful
Dagmar family still Oh, let mereread that again. I'm not gonna edit
(42:02):
any of this out. They discoverthat not only are the house's first residence,
the vengeful Dagmar family still there,but so as an ancient power,
a primal darkness slumbers under the oldhome, waking up every thirty years and
demanding the fresh blood of a newfamily. And all together new take on
(42:30):
the haunted house genre that definitely mixesa human drama and comedy. We Are
Still Here is a couple's terrifying journeythrough darkness and loss, set against the
freezing New England winter. Where didyou say comedy? Yeah, I think
there's some elements of that would makeyou chuckle. But did you didn't watch
(42:53):
it right? No, because nothingin the wikipedia plot had anything to do
with any kind of humor or soI feel it ties into the topic of
this episode because New England. Yeahyeah, uh town. But so within
the story, it's not just ahaunted House story, right, some of
(43:15):
the things going on in or becausethe town themselves, yeah, are responsible
for some of the shenanigans. Now, this does star Barbara Crampton, Yes,
and I'm sure any horror fans alreadyknow that legend. She started stuff
like a reanimator chopping him off frombeyond. There also some newer things you
(43:39):
might be familiar with Your Next andLords of Salem, that Rob zombie pick.
Okay, dave you seen none ofthose, right, I've only heard
of one of those. And LarryVeastin, who was in Stakland, he
was also in Your Next. Apersonal favorite of mine that nobody has ever
(44:02):
heard of. That almost was thetopic the movie for this one. Jug
face. Yeah, I've heard ofthat one, probably because I told you
I used to have a poster hangingin the basement because I met the producer
and he was shocked when I saidI love that movies like you've heard of
it, And I don't think thatwas like that much of a negative,
(44:27):
but it's it's a very indie horrorflick and just that randomly, I'm like,
dude, I love that movie.No love could be a strong word.
I haven't seen it for a while. I just remember seeing it and
going like, okay, so youcan make a a small budget indie horror
film taking place in the Appalachian Mountainsand it's really good. So again story
(44:52):
sometimes trump's all the expensive equipment.That's true. Yeah, so I knew,
But anyway, that's not the movie. Um, yeah, we are
still here. It's set in likethe seventies again in New England, and
it's cold and they did film itin February and they said it was bitter
(45:12):
cold, like it was a wickedbad in February. You can almost see
it in some of the actors.You're there, Yeah, you're right now.
You can feel yeah, the coldwhen you're watching it. Now,
the first nine minutes of this moviethere's no dialogue. Yeah, and rewatching
it, I'm like, this isthis is cool because the actors everything has
(45:35):
to kind of convey through the cinematographyand what the actors are doing. Right,
So within that night minutes number one, and some of the shots and
the angles and the camera work arewonderful. They're beautiful, and so just
through the acting and then bringing intheir furniture, they got this new house.
Barbara Crampton puts up a photover kid. We start, we already get
(45:59):
the sense that they lost their son, right, not a single bit of
dialogue needed to happen, but youstill get that. And then then they
start living in the house a littlebit, and I think at one point
she wakes up and sees something standingin her doorway, a shadowy figure,
right, But then I think theheat. She's like, man, I
(46:21):
smell I smell smoke. So they'renot sure why they call electrician. And
this is when it amps up andlike it really goes for it. This
poor electrician comes over check this houseout and goes down the basement. And
again it's one of those basements soyou're like, oh, we should film
a scary movie. It's a it'snot a really nice base when you're like,
(46:43):
you know what, we should fixthis up and make them put a
bar down here. But it happensfast. I did forget though. When
she did go down the basement checkshe found ball glove with her son's name
on it. Her her son who'spast ball glove. So she's convinced that
her son somehow the spirits here withthem, right, But anyway, this
(47:05):
poor electrician goes down there and thesethe ghosts in this basement who are all
like charred, yes and scary.They just are immediately just out. You
would, Dave, you would hatethis scene because there's jump scares and they
eventually do touch with the electrician.They screens because they burned them. Yeah,
And I'm like, I love goingfrom nine minutes of no dialogue and
(47:30):
then we get this scene pulled rightinto like all right, so this house
is effing terrifying, right right,we should get out of here. I
won't keep talking. Lish what doyou think of that scene? Wait to
wait to burn me in here?No, through you, through the baseball
(47:50):
catch it in Bobbies her dead son'sglove? Right? Oh? No,
I feel like you and I were, um, we were talking while we
were watching it as far as likenever No, we were trying to speculate,
like why would she think her sonis trapped there? Or why is
her son trap there? And Ifelt like it was it was more or
less maybe they were keeping his memorythere, like keeping the spirit trapped there.
(48:15):
I got the impression that does thespirit of Bobby might have still been
attached to her right who she wasnot willing to let go right of her
kid just yet it's too painful.She loves her some so somehow she her
the spirit of her Bobby stay thereto this house, which wasn't the best
(48:37):
thing because this house it's bad,right, But I just love going in
right into horror after like just examining, like getting like a lesson in filmmaking
with the way the shots were,the way we didn't need dialogue. We
didn't Barbara Crampton and the other guyto be like, h hey, honey,
(48:58):
it is so sad that we lostour kid here, right maybe this
new life we're starting with this,we didn't need any of that barbage dialogue
right now. I feel like theyjust told it through acting right. This
this movie is a perfect example ofshow, don't tell right, you know
what I mean. And then whenthey showed the ghosty things in the basement
(49:19):
though, you were like, yes, show but anyway, So there's a
point where Larry fees and at leastMarie they're coming up and Larry Fesen is
kind of like a medium or apsychic, so he's going to maybe help
out because you know, Barbacrampon isconvinced like, hey, the spirit of
my kids here. But anyway,they get up there and they decided to
(49:44):
go out for dinner and they walkinto this bar and it literally like a
record skip. Everybody just stops atdoing and just looks at them. And
this is what I feel like,you get the really good idea that oh,
this town sucks, yeah, andthey're up to no good now.
Earlier in the movie, a guydid show up to welcome them, and
(50:05):
I think that was kind of likeletting you know that it's not good.
But he told the story of like, oh, who used to live in
this house? And the guy's like, well, you know, hey,
it's the uh Skeedonelli's house now Andthe guy's like, no, it's still
Dagmar's house. And then it leavesa right. So it's kind of like,
oh, okay, no, I'mnot gonna go into deep spoilers,
(50:30):
but I'm hoping you are getting thesense that this movie is bringing, like,
you know, good bits of dramaand harbor and melting into this into
the seventies kind of setting. Yeah, and there is a possession scene where
Larry Fesantin gets possessed. That's prettyamazing. But Listenny, I want to
(50:55):
kick over here to some fun factsand Larry G's comment. But I'm not
gonna sit here to sell everybody themovie beat for beat, right, because
if you don't stop me, that'swhat's going to happen. But I want
people to watch the movie. Ithink this movie is worth watching. Absolutely
As somebody who isn't like huge intohorror or whatever, I did enjoy it.
(51:17):
I know now I will watch it. But it's not like something that
I that's not my first choice,right, Um, But I do like
this movie because it's not just horror, it's it's paranormal. Um. There's
a lot of really uh interesting dynamicsbetween you know, the townfolk, um,
(51:40):
the people that are living in thishouse, and then trying to discover
why there's also an ancient evil rights. Yeah, and you know again,
I didn't watch the movie, butreading the plot of the movie, it
reminded me of like an inverse ofa HP Lovecrafts The Dunwich Horror. So
(52:05):
that almost was the movie. Waitfor this episode. Oh yeah, I
didn't know that was a movie.No, yeah, it's a movie,
Okay. I just know the storyand the only reason the end of the
story is from the Fallout series videogames. They do a lot with Dunwich,
and so I've read up on whatyou know. The Dunwich story is
(52:29):
in that the family is the possessedone, not possessed one, but the
cursed one. Then the ancient evilthey're trying to keep hidden of the town
is trying to prevent it. Thisis kind of the inverse where the town
is, you know, the thebad and the family is trying yea.
So it's where do you think theDunwich Horror takes place? It's in nineteen
(52:49):
seventy film, okay, but wheredo you think it takes place? Guessing
by that somewhere in New England Massachusetts'sNew England? Is why do you have
all the ancient ones? Yeah,we want an ancient one down here in
(53:10):
PA. Now we don't, right, But so the again, it sounded
just some of the scenes, evenin the plot it sounded too. So
there's out. But there's a momentin the movie beginning when that couple comes
over to welcome he talks about theDagmar the dude and he was like a
(53:36):
mortician, and he was like takingthe bodies and selling them and I think
it was burying empty coffins or something. But he refers to uh that this
guy was sent them to some university, which is from HP Lovecraft. Uh
story, okay, so tying inHP Lovecraft a little bit. I didn't
(54:00):
get it right right away, butI saw fact Yeah, me too,
and I had that on my Ohno, read it, read it?
Do it better better. During hisspeech about the Dagmar family, dave U
notes that the homes first owner soldcorpses to the university over in Essex County,
(54:22):
a reference to HP Lovecraft's fictional misMiskatonic University, which was located there.
Good job, I should have justkicked that over to you, Dave.
You're gonna enjoy this one. Butin the film, throughout the movie
(54:43):
they're drinking this B and Jay whiskey, which was really prominent one seeing like
when Larry feast In and at leastMarie got there and they, uh,
we're gonna have some drinks. Butlike the label they really they really showed
the label no right. But Ialso remarked when he was making some drinks,
(55:07):
like he put him on a trayand walked them over the cost I'm
like, is that how they didin the seventies, Because it actually be
like all right, come, comeget your drink. Right. He put
him on a little tray, walkedhim over. I'm like, all right,
hospitality. But so it was beingJay Whiskey. It could be seen
it's an homage to J and BScotch, a real life brand of alcohol
(55:30):
that was often seen in Italian horrorand exploitation films during the seventies and early
eighties. Even the label design isvery similar. So interesting as a designer,
I'm like, Okay, that's cool. Yeah, just but I would
never know that from Italian harm.I've only seen a few films, so
(55:52):
I thought, I thought that wasinteresting. And that's that's the attention to
detail. That's a guy who's makingthat guy who made this film really loves
certain genre films and he was pullingelements into this nice and maybe it's only
for people that I get it.Sorry, Oh, and I feel like
(56:14):
if you don't put in jump scars, I probably could be one of those
people that you'd be like, Iwould get it. No, it's from
Italian. It's homage to Italian horrormovies, so you would never know the
homage because you don't watch horror moviesperiod. That's what I'm saying if you
only watch Italian horror movies, thenI would be really impressed. Right.
No, I'm saying that all horrormovies just cut out the jump scares.
(56:37):
Stop using that technique, that cliche, that's the word I'm looking forward.
But it works sometimes, it reallydoes work. A really good cat scare
or jump scare done right is stillgreat. It's the ones that when you're
watching, like, maybe not sucha good horror movie, and they keep
hitting you would jump scares, catscares, that's what's kind of like,
(57:00):
Okay, you have nothing, nothingelse. Yeah, but yeah, then
I could be a I love theconcept of horror and suspense and all of
that. I would love this ifit just didn't have the jump scares.
Okay. Another fun fact, tellTales signed. The film was shot in
(57:21):
a town close to the US Canadianborder. The most in Canadian beer light
you can see in the Buffalo Bill'sbar. Nice, but I guess,
I mean, I don't think Ithink moston's sold everywhere, right all right?
Yeah, anyway, I don't wantto get too deep because I would
(57:44):
rather let a listener get a littletoo deep for everybody. So we were
not trying to spoil it because Ihighly recommend you check it out. But
Larry Gee would like to spoil it, and he's got an excellent moveor review,
and that's why we're going to lethis review wrapped this segment up.
Larry G. Heck of a greatjob here, and we'll have some thoughts
(58:06):
on what you said after Dave readsthis. Right, I figured if I
didn't have a movie review, youshould read Larry Yes. Yeah, so
Larry G says, warning I spoilstuff. This movie's eight years old,
so get over it. Yeah.So I hadn't realized that actually watched this
before, but it was a verygood memory to bring back when I started
(58:28):
watching it. The story really isn'tanything special, disagree, especially when put
against slightly more modern movies. Familywith a tragic past moves into a house
with a dark history. It findsa cult like group that wants the haunted
house to eat said family. Sothe story doesn't help much, but the
special effects are pretty amazing For theirpractical effects, the Dagmars, in all
(58:52):
their black into a crisp glory weretruly a sight to be seen. Another
highlight was the possession scene a sockor something similar was put into the friend's
mouth to keep him from speaking,and unlike all the other movies where the
demonic force is foiled by something assimple as an article of clothing, he
actually swallows the sock, complete withcontorting throat effects and all, yeah,
(59:17):
that's scene. You'd love that,dad. Well, I mean, is
it scary, like like I'm guessingit's intense, but is it jump scary
scary or because I guess, okay, intense? So yeah, you wouldn't
be bothered by it. No,that's the kind of thing I would enjoy.
You know that. That's my kindof thing. But anyways, back
(59:37):
to the review, The ending ispretty interesting, with it not completely being
the ghosts being the bad thing andthe townsfolk being the bigger issue. My
one true problem with the ending,and truly the entire movie, is that
there's a lot of space for lorethat there wasn't just anything put in place.
This is a movie that, ifit had a stronger following, could
have been used as a prequel,or could have used a pre quel and
(01:00:00):
a sequel, if only to getthe Lord of the Dagmar family and the
rest of the story out a littlemore cohesively. All you really have is
five minutes of vague dialogue towards theend that kind of gives you the reason,
gives you a reason as to whythe townsfolk are absolutely nuts and the
Dagmar family were not the villains.I totally want a prequel that shows the
(01:00:21):
town unearthing old gods and sacrificing afamily to make this pact. All in
all, I give it seven outof ten for story and a seven and
a half out of ten for effects. I think that's actually, again Larry
g accellent review. Yeah, betterthan what we just did. We want
a review. We were talking sevenout ten. I think that rating is
(01:00:44):
fair and accurate. The effects aregreat, seven out of ten. Yeah,
I mean, how that's that's athat's a good tomato, right right,
yeah, not a squash tomato.Right Yeah. The reason I picked
this movie as I love Indye Har. I love small budget Indie har that
(01:01:06):
that like in this case, ittook place mostly just this house. They
didn't have like a lot of sets, big sets. I just kind of
love just seeing what a storyteller cando with this limited and I think they
crushed it and I think it's worthseeing. And he's right, if it
had, if it got a biggerfollowing, maybe they would have done right.
(01:01:27):
And we all love ancient evil underthe ground. Oh gods, Cathulu,
I mean we don't love them.I mean storytelling right, right.
There's some cults to do, butwe're working on them. We're working on
a concept right now with the kindof vibe of an ancient evil under this
town more of a comedy. Butyeah, we are still here. I
(01:01:53):
recommend it. I will go herewith Larry g and give it a seven
out of ten. Yeah. Theeffects are great. Um, the acting
is great too. It really it'sgood. It's worth your time if you're
into this kind of stuff. Butmaybe a little slow burn at times two.
(01:02:14):
So don't expect scream like out ofthe gage, just murdering mayhem.
Let the story tell, let's letit tell you. What's up? Enjoy
it, sit back, drink aMoulson. All right, that's what.
That's the third movie review we've done. I hope you're enjoying them, but
(01:02:36):
I would love to know if youlike them and you want more, and
do you like trying to pair amovie with a topic. So that way,
if you listen to the show andyou're like, oh, I want
to watch that movie. It kindof is like a it's like a food
in beer parting. Right, doyou like that? It's okay you don't,
but go to peril Punches dot com. Then you'll find all the way
(01:02:58):
to contact us and let us knowif you like it or don't like him,
or what if you have an ideathat works, you should talk about
this haunted location with this movie.Hey, let us know. That would
be awesome, right, And doyou like if you like the show?
Not? Do you If you likethe show and you listen to us on
(01:03:20):
Apple and Spotify, hit that fivestar it does help the show? Why?
It just helps us move up inthe ranks and more people get the
get eyes on us and get earson us. So if you want to
do that, Dave, anything else, I was just gonna say, along
with the you know sending in youknow, whether you like the movie,
reviews and potential topics and things likethat, if anybody has recommendations on either
(01:03:45):
movies without jump scares that I shouldwatch or Gateway movies that kind of ease
me that maybe I'll get more intoit. Give me some advice so that
I could maybe participate a little bitmore. We're one that will ruin day
forever. You get one of thoselish No. I think we covered everything.
(01:04:13):
We did a really good job withthe movie. Were you so River?
Is that it? That's it,darling, I am, I'm good.
Well, thank you so much spendingyour time with us. We appreciate
it. And remember it's not weird. It's not worth checking out.
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