August 15, 2023 • 51 mins
The Old Spaghetti Factory in Vancouver, British Columbia is rumored to be the most haunted restaurant in the city. It opened its doors in March of 1970 in a building that has been around since the early 1900s, and is the 2nd oldest building in Vancouver. The Old Spaghetti Factory is known to have vintage décor, as well as an old trolley car, Number 53, that was placed inside around the time of its opening. There are four resident ghosts that are seen in the Old Spaghetti Factory, including the Tram Conductor, who is seen in full uniform inside the tram after hours seated at the same table, and a little boy ghost named Edward has been seen running around the restaurant.
A visiting psychic confirmed that there were spirits here, and that the activity stems from the presence of historical artifacts that they are attached to in the building. Several psychics have also suggested that there is a vortex or portal that is found at the back of the restaurant that may attract these ghosts to stick around.
Join us on episode 166 to hear more about the most haunted restaurant in Vancouver!
Sources: gastown.org/haunted-tales-from-the-old-spaghetti-factory/, matadornetwork.com/read/the-old-spaghetti-factory-vancouver/, dailyhive.com/vancouver/old-spaghetti-factory-vancouver-haunted, ghostsofvancouver.com/haunted-locations/old-spaghetti-factory/, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastown
A visiting psychic confirmed that there were spirits here, and that the activity stems from the presence of historical artifacts that they are attached to in the building. Several psychics have also suggested that there is a vortex or portal that is found at the back of the restaurant that may attract these ghosts to stick around.
Join us on episode 166 to hear more about the most haunted restaurant in Vancouver!
Sources: gastown.org/haunted-tales-from-the-old-spaghetti-factory/, matadornetwork.com/read/the-old-spaghetti-factory-vancouver/, dailyhive.com/vancouver/old-spaghetti-factory-vancouver-haunted, ghostsofvancouver.com/haunted-locations/old-spaghetti-factory/, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastown
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Paranormal Punches is part of the podBelly Network. Go to podbelly dot com
for more great podcast. Hey,y'all, this is Frank the Big Point
and you're listening to the Paranormal Puncher. Hey, friends, welcome to another
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episode of Paranormal Punchers. I'm Mark, I'm Militia, I'm Nash, I'm
Dave. Nash is back. Yea, I am back Randy rock and roll.
Now, we told you he wentto Alaska. I'm not sure when
we got that. He went toCanada, Yeah, Vancouver, Vancouver,
but I swear you told us shewent to Alaska. Hard though you were
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going to Alaska. Yeah, Ihad to go to a bit of Alaska
to get to where I wanted togo in Vancouver. Okay, Yes,
so the layover there was a bitof a layover. Yeah, somehow,
that's they're not even close. They'rethey're right. But where we were in
it was it was a shorter tripto Sitka, Alaska as it was then
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compared to where we went to partPort Hardy in Vancouver. Okay. Normally
you land in Seattle and just walk. Yeah, well we didn't. I
didn't land and yeah, I camehome from Seattle, but no, I
went from Chicago to Vancouver. Yeah, and then from Vancouver I ended up
some little tiny airport flying on aBuddy Holly plane where I was, you
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know, gripping the seat side ofthe sea, going like, oh my
god, you know how much ducttape is holding this plane together? Before
I landed in Port Hardy. Youknow the past three episodes you missed because
you've been training for strong man fishing. We talked about aliens. I know,
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all aliens all the time. Iknow I missed it. I missed
the sweet spot. Come on,it's like your favorite thing. We intentionally
did that. Thank you, butyou know, for every for all the
listeners. Oh yeah again, welcomeback. I'm glad nothing bad happened in
Canada. You caught a lot offish and you did not run into a
grizzly bear. No bears, nobears at all. I was actually hoping
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to see some bears. We sawwhales, eagles. We actually had some
interactions with eagles, which was reallyreally cool. A lot of otters,
some some porpoise, some porpoise porpoise. Yeah, they call them blackfish up
there, but they're actually not there. They're dolphins. But they're not.
They're Yeah, so they're they're Porpoise. Okay, okay, yeah, they
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do things on Porpoise. I knowI'll be leaving here. We're actually Nash
with a bunch of salmon. Soyour trip worked out for us too,
Yeah, delicious. What I discoveredit is one of those one of those
filets that I showed you is aperfect size serving for me, just one
one server. Okay, yeah,when you buy the story, that's probably
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like three or four or five flatssomething like that, perfect size for me.
Okay, yeah, right, youknow, uh, so we're gonna
need to not do aliens. We'regonna talk about a haunted restaurant that's up
in Canada. Yes, trying totheme it to your trip. And Vancouver
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is a cool, cool, coolplace. Oh do you remember the I
was gonna say. I was gonnasay hotel for some reason, just so
you would say the word. Rememberlast time we talked about something in Canada,
Remember the name of that hotel?No? Yes, you do,
I don't. Oh uh starts Yes, if everybody likes when Nash has Bank
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trying to walk him into that,Yeah, you had to drag me into
it. We're gonna talk about theOld Spaghetti Factory. I than Canada,
and it's apparently wicked haunted. Yes, and Vancouver's a cool place and it's
and we'll get into it a littlebit at the show. Okay, go
ahead, anyone tell us about Canadaa little no, no, no,
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no, no, about about therelevance of the Old Spaghetti Factory in Vancouver.
Okay, let you go. Ohokay. So this is from Matador
network dot com. The Old SpaghettiFactory in Vancouver is rumored to be the
most haunted restaurant in the city.The restaurant has been serving up pasta good
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times and, according to some employees, ghost sightings since nineteen seventy. So
the Old Spaghetti Factory it opened itsstores March. So no ghosts before the
seventies. No, and I feellike there's a reason why. Okay,
cool. It opened its stores inMarch of nineteen seventy in a building that
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has been around since the early nineteenhundreds, the second oldest building. Yeah,
it's the second oldest one, whichthat blows my mind, Like Vancouver
was older than that. Well,the building was super old. We don't
know when the building was built,like it was yeah, it was like
early nineteen hundred. Nineteen o fourwas the first was when it opened,
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and it's the second oldest building inVancouver. So either I don't know my
history of Vancouver. Did something happenwhere half the city burned down or something?
Or it's okay, there was wow. Uh. Actually they called the
Great Fire eighteen eighty six, sothat could answer all your questions, right,
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probably it was called the Great VancouverFire fire. Sorry it so,
yeah, a city of about athousand wooden buildings were destroyed in less than
forty five minutes, some say aslittle as twenty uh. And eyewitness I
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guess probably from a news report saidVancouver didn't burn, it exploded. Wow.
So that could be why this isone of the oldest buildings because the
other ones were wiped out. Okay, Well, it's funny because the way
the Vancouver's laid out, it haslike three different downtown areas with high rises
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and whatnot. So that just makesyou want to find out what section it
is because back in the day,I'm assuming back in the day everything is
in its a little teeny tiny valley, so I would imagine if there's a
fire that whole surrounding area would justit's gone. Maybe that's why there's three
separate parts. So the area thatthe restaurant is in, it's known as
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Gastown in the Sorry building started outas a wholesale grocery that was run and
owned by William Malkin. I guessat one point he was like the mayor
I think of the town or whatever. But apparently his spirit also haunts the
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area as well. Well. Isaw that, and it seemed to me
the way it read was like notnecessarily that it was haunted, but it
was like the spirit of it,just like you know, drive for entrepreneurship,
it haunts the area. It's it'sjust permeable and everything in that area.
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I came across something. I couldn'tfind anything deeper that the spirit was
haunted. And there's a reason alot of ghosts because there's people that had
problems with this guy, maybe murders, maybe he made some shady dealess disappeared.
But I couldn't find anything to backthat up. He found one article
I mentioned it, I couldn't findany truth to it. I found similar
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but on the opposite flip side ofthat argument that he was very beloved as
the mayor and everything. But itwas during the Great Depression, and Vancouver
was basically like the doldrums of societyat that point because nobody had work and
everybody was doing their own things.So there was rampant crime and murders and
things like that. But it wasn'this fault. He was doing the best
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that he could and he was wellloved for what he was trying to do
at the time. This is whyspeculation the facts. I imagine that.
I'm not saying I have the factsthat I was just saying I don't have
facts. I'll just say that maybeback in the day, I would imagine
that Vancouver was mostly logging, hunting, and trapping. You know, there
wasn't a lot of exports coming outof Vancouver except for woods, you know,
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and animals. That's a lot ofwhat's up there. So maybe that
he was the guy who connected thedots and put it together, and maybe
he had to offer a few peopleand the sawmills. You know what I'm
saying, I didn't never know.We don't have any proof, no proof,
no proof, but I know thatevery major political figure you know who
was well loved, maybe they havea few skeletons, but still proof that
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Alicia would like to continue. Andit was so nice that he was gone.
So Gastown is the original settlement thatbecame the core of the city of
Vancouver. Gasstown was named for GassieJack Dayton. That's right. He was
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a Yorkshire seaman. What I knewyou were gonna okay, steamboat, No
one did anything. I think we'regonna do. Well. He worked on
the seat. I don't know whatyou're talking about. Yeah, he was
a steamboat captain and also a barkeep. Okay. He arrived in eighteen
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sixty seven and opened the area's firstsaloon. Nice Jack was famous for a
habit of talking at lengths or gassing, so the area around his saloon became
known as Gassy's Town, and then, of course the nickname would just eventually
it morphed into Gastown. So atleast they didn't go with the seamen part.
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Who knows what the name the townwould be called. So by that
rationale, we would all be gassy, yes, because we all like to
talk, and we do a podcastwhere we talk, so we're all a
little bit gassy. In fact,you are, yes, I I yeah.
Every once in a while, Ienjoy good flatulence. I'm interesting,
the word for being loquacious. He'sgassy right right, right, top and
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bottom. Either way. I thoughtyou were looking at me, Dad,
because yeah, I just dropped ansat so anyway, anyway, the Old
Spaghetti Factory is known to have vintagedickcor as well as an old trolley car
number fifty three, that was placedinside around the time of its opening trolley
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car. The trolley has several tablesand chairs inside where guests can dine in,
and is also a fun place fortourists to come in and take pictures
for gas to dining. Guess guessyes, where I heard gas. You're
really focusing on that gas. I'llgive you some later. Don't work.
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It doesn't sound good at all.Now. The trolley car was originally built
in nineteen oh four and was astreet car that served the people of Vancouver.
So wait, the trolley was builtin nineteen oh four. I'm ignoring
what Mark said. But but yousaid it was found in nineteen oh seven.
Back in your earlier thing, yousaid that when when Vancouver started,
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it started in nineteen was it yousaid? Did you say it was seven?
No, when the building was originallyYeah, when when was the building
originally put together? It was earlynineteen hundreds, yea, it was.
I don't have the day. I'mjust thinking that the trolley car was older
than the Vancouver the settlement before thewhole thing happened. No, I mean
you heard the saloon was eighteen sixties. So okay, that's what I was
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fired right at the beginning of theshow. Maybe that's what Maybe that's what
the day was out. I'm alittle continuing. So the trolley yet,
it's part of the decorps inside thebuilding, and I just wanted to bring
it up, like some history behindit, because it's it's part of possibly
why it's haunted. So there areapparently four resident ghosts that are in the
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old Spaghetti Factory. The first oneis the tram conductor. So there's a
ghost that many believe is the tramconductor from the number fifty three trolley carp
which is in the building right.It is presumed that he died in an
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underground collision that happened below the restaurant, but that's unlikely. Well, it's
unlikely because trolley cars in Vancouver ranat street level. They weren't like underground,
so I'm not really sure. Itmight just be like a fun urban
yeah urban legend or something. Butbut he didn't start appearing until after the
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tram was installed. On thet Iheard a second so he died under under
the place or and this is theone I like better, is that he
was actually killed in his trolley somewhereelse and that he was attached to it.
So when they brought it into thenext trapp of the front like Spider
Man, I don't know, butin any case, that he it wasn't
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about the location. It's that thetrolley car is his interesting spirit other ghost
that they say came in with anartifact. Okay, so we'll get there.
But yeah, that's interesting, likethe spirit is infused in Okay,
Okay, I could see that somany staffers have spotted him in full uniform
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inside the tram after hours, seatedat the same table. Play settings are
also moved and cold spots are felt. So they basically attributed it to him.
But I have a quote from aguy that had an experience, or
he was detailing and experience. Butwe had two ladies come in for lunch.
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They asked to speak with the manageras they wanted to know about the
entities as they could communicate with them. Skeptical and not wanting to share.
I like to figure manager right,skeptical, not wanting to share, and
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delicious and even though we're in myhouse, sorry I lost my place.
Yeah yeah, all right, skepticaland not wanting to share. I asked
what they saw. They described theboy in blue I told you about,
and it wasn't the we'll talk aboutthe boy in a little bit, but
but it wasn't that entity that theywanted to talk about. It was the
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other in the train. They saidhe was mad at me because I wouldn't
put up his picture. This madeno sense to me, and they said
it would be easier to explain ifI took them to the manager's office where
the picture was being kept to appeasethem. I agreed. We walked in
and the lady immediately looked way up, pointed at a single picture, and
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it was the train's conductor and shesaid, that's him there. The woman
laughed at me and said, hewants it hanging in the restaurant. Okay,
there is no way anyone knows aboutthat picture. Our owner had found
it and hung it in. I'msorry hung it up after we moved offices.
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Definitely not the two ladies. Sothe I guess this guy he was
pissed that his picture was just hidingin a room. He wanted it out
in the restaurant. But even themanager didn't know about this picture, right,
he didn't know it was there.It was hidden to him and they
pointed it out, and he's like, oh, okay, and is there
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any information about you know, werethey cut any type of psychic or medium
that they would be able to Yeah, I think they Yeah, they could
communicate or felt certain things. Doyou answer the second? I had a
question on the rest of his storybecause what I had found was he was
upset because he wanted his picture removedfrom the office. Oh see, I
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found a story about that too,and I was I think that it was
written weirdly or like they miss wrotesomething because everything else was about that he
wanted his picture out there. Yeah, right, but so but but if
you but that would make sense becauseit's like I wanted what I found.
It was said they wanted to removedfrom the office because it was stuck in
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the office, but because he wantedit in. Yeah, he wanted in
the resture. She just didn't wantit. I thought I took that as
he wanted it down and away andgone, but no, it was because
he wanted it out in the restaurant. Party would see him, if I
understand correctly. Part of the quotewas that they had moved the office.
Yeah, they moved the office,and that the where I guess however,
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it happened that the where the officeused to be is like the kitchen or
something, so it probably was hiddenbefore, yeah, and that he was
getting enough people seeing it or somethingeven though it was hidden, and then
when they moved everything, it becamelike it was just a picture on the
wall. So they just left itthere and that's what he got mad.
Yeah, he wanted some pr somegood people, and he wanted he probably
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wants some good pasta, at leastsee the pasta. They've got a good
pasta there, I gotta say,yeah, And I think to the one
in Phoenix. Yes, we'll comeup to that later. Yeah. I
think in the restaurant they have alot of like older pictures from like probably
the early nineteen hundreds or whatever,so from when Mark was born, right,
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it's been a while I had tothrow something there much older than you.
Wait anyway, so the second ghostis the Little Red Man or look
you Loo. Yeah, I gota little information on that particular ghost.
This entity is kind of I wouldsay, like troublemake or mischievous. Some
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actually believe it's a LEPrecon. Ohand this is uh they there's there are
some people who believe this thing hadit was attached to an artifact that they
brought him to decorate the restaurant.But they describe him as, you know,
having short red hair, and hehe likes to like peek through the
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door of the women's restroom, likethe you know, the toilet door,
right a stall door. H SoI feel like the Little Red Man is
also a bit of a pervert.Yeah, yeah, it's not me,
nor is he related. I wonderif that's why his nickname is luky Loo.
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Yeah. Yeah, So I wasinterested in the fact that they some
people feel like he's a LEPrecon.That's really interesting. Why would they think
that's I'm not sure why. Ican't find anything else to back that up.
Does you have a green hat?No? I guess these little red
hair maybe because they it's the redhair and then he's also shorter. Maybe
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he's a shorter man. Okay,quick aside, Yeah, I always think
of lepricons is like tiny, likethree m. That's probably the biggest one
that I would I would think,I would think it would be smaller like
what you was thinking on the luckLucky Jarma's box, right, like he's
maybe maybe six to ten inches tall. I wasn't even thinking smaller than that.
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But really, so that's why whenI hear you know that they think
he's a LEPrecon but they're seeing himstanding looking in the stalled or it's that
doesn't make any sense now, yeah, but still it's just still like four
ft tall, little three foot threeinch things walking in under has a habit
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of going into the women's bathroom andwatched him use the facility, so it's
totally perfect. Ye. On oneparticular occasion, two ladies saw him leave
one of the stalls. He wasdressed in a red shirt and a red
Long John's. After looking at them, I can tell you, as a
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Ginger, you don't wear red shirtwith the very logo on, right,
But I get told about how itdoesn't know there are certain colors that don't
work. Yeah, Yeah, soafter looking at them and laughing at them,
he left through the door. Nobodyelse saw him leave though, Like
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nobody saw him like exit the bathroom, Like it's just he just kind of
disappeared or whatever. But he's justkind of chilling in the bathroom and apparently
one of the women took a pictureof him, but when the film was
developed, he appeared kind of asa a blur. So that dates the
whole thing because if they're going totake a picture and then develop that picture,
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that was what eighties and nineties beforecell phones came out, and maybe
more earlier than that. Whatever.Yeah, so that's an old picture of
a pervy, red haired He alsolikes to roam the kitchen, where he
whispers to the staff and calls themby name. Okay, now that is
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two ghosts. Though that seem tohave an attachment to something that was brought
in to decorate the spaghetti factory.Yea, yep. Yeah, again begs
the question when you go to ayard sale, right, yeah, yeah,
where you're getting yourself old things mightlook really cool. Well there's still
so yes, I agree with whatyou're saying, Mark, but there's still
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yet a bigger question behind that onethat you might not fully realize yet,
but we'll get to that later.Oh okay, Nash, all right,
so the third ghost, let's justinvite him in. You're in my house
now. The third ghost is alittle boy. Uh. He is an
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eleven or twelve year old boy namedEdward, and he's been seen running around
the restaurant. He's blonde with hishair parted in the middle and is wearing
blue overalls. And that's consistent acrossmany people. They all say he looks
the same, like, independent ofeach other's you know stories, It's always
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looks the same. Right. Helikes to move I'm sorry. He's been
seen bending forks and knives. Yeah, but then they somehow return to their
shape when you know, when likethe staff takes it to the manager.
Right, and then he also likesto move of these knives and forks around,
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as well as unscrew light bulbs becausehe likes watching them have to try
to screw them back in. Screwon a light. Right. Chris Newson,
he was a he's a former employee, and this is a quote from
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him. We asked, can youswing a lamp, or move some cutlery,
or move a chair right now toprove that you're here, solved him.
Five seconds later, a fork liftedup off the table, swiveled around,
and drop back down onto the table. A lamp started swinging and chairs
collided. This was all visible andaudible to us. And did they record
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it? No? Why would they? Why would they do that? I
mean, come on, but therewas an interaction with a with a new
employee that started. Yes, soI don't know if do you want to
bring that up right? So,well, it wasn't a new employee.
She had worked for twelve years,yeah, and never had any problem sift
them. And then she quit onthe spot as a result of her interaction
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with Edward. But now I haveI've heard many different variations of the story,
so I'll give through all. Yeah, they all basically have the same
story that she was checking on thestuff either before her shift or after her
shift. Yeah, I know,I'm seeing both as well. Yeah,
but it was not during normal workinghours. It was correct before or after
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him. And in the first versionof the story that I read, she
came upon she came in to thetrolley and found that there was a child
with blonde hair under the the onetable and he was just sitting there crying,
and so he went she went togo get uh, find somebody to
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help, you know whatever, andwhen she came back, he was gone,
and this nerved her enough that shequit on the spot. Okay,
so not nothing really outrageous in thatreally, So then the next version I
found was that he was running aroundand actually ran into the kitchen, and
she ran after him, and whenshe got to the kitchen, he was
gone, and this freaked her outenough that she quit on the spot.
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The third version I found when shewent under the table, she saw him,
but he had no eyes in hissockets. So that that, to
me, is the reason for somebodyquitting right on the spot. And then
the fourth version is that she actuallyhad a conversation that she hasn't said what
it was, but that whatever hesaid to her freaked her out and she
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quit on the spot. Okay,So stories three and four quitting on the
spot, I'm gonna go with three. To me. If I was a
seasoned employee at a restaurant having aconversation with somebody on the spot, I
don't know their first two Yeah,whatever, you'd be like, whatever,
I gotta go home. Well,I mean you've never came across a full
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body apparition. True, Like itcould be freaky. Every single story would
be freaky enough to like, youknow what, maybe I don't want to
work here. Yeah, but afterbut a season, twelve year restaurant staffer
has seen a lot, and it'spretty it's pretty seasoned to all kinds of
crap that would happen in a restaurant. So the way I'm taking I'm going
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to the number three seeing an eyelesschild underneath a table and then be like,
know what, I'm good twelve years, I get a job I don't
need. I don't need the oldspaghetti factory. There's an Oh, there's
an old sandwich factory right down thestreet. I'm gonna go down there.
I started making sure the old sandwichfactory doesn't have any ghost. Yeah,
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well even if if you worked therefor twelve years and you've never experienced anything,
and you know there's stuff going on, and all of a sudden,
it's like, why now I don'tneed this in my life. I'm going,
yeah, spear for me, Yesit is. Oh, look at
that. Now. The last residentghost is a little girl, and I
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don't know what her name is,and I don't really know what she looks
like because I couldn't really find awhole lot about her. But she appears
at a table in the front windowand she's holding a balloon. Nobody knows
who she is. Uh, Andonce a friend of the restaurant's general manager
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had a conversation with her the lastseveral minutes, where the little girl said
she was looking for her mother.When he returned to the table after telling
the manager about her, she disappeared, well, at least haul in the
balloons. She didn't say, Hey, we all float down right, Okay,
I'm gonna get Joe. Maybe she'sthe harbinger of Pennywise. Oh and
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yeah whine or it could be pennyWise. You get shape shifted. So
half of the staff here and seethings repeatedly and the other half never do.
So I think it's just, yeah, some people are maybe open to
whatever is going on there. Butyeah, people when they go to work
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there, I try to cut youoff there, but you go to work
but and he I would imagine thatyou would hear stories and be like that's
okay, I'm okay with that.Those are the people that hear it were
completely disbelievers close to it. Therehave also been multiple mediums that have come
in and identified both the conductor andthe little boy in the train. And
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I have a little story. Therewas a woman that was sitting with her
baby in the restaurant and this kidwould not stop crying. Apparently, yeah,
darn kids. Apparently someone commented thatthere was a present standing behind where
the baby was, so mom movedher child to another seat. The crying
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stopped. When she moved the babyback to its original spot, it began
crying again. I saw that storyand I talked to myself, I think
there's one small loophole story, Okay, is that What they didn't realize is
in the first spot where the babystarted crying, in that seat that was
there, it was filled with thumbtacks. So they were sitting there baby
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on a seat of thumb tacks.So when they pulled the baby out put
on a different seat, it stoppedcrying. And then when they put the
baby back, of course on thumbtacks, the baby started crying again.
Did you pick that up or didyou? We'll never know, Mark,
We'll never know. She's never beenbased on I guess hands will never know.
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I know, they've had a coupleof beers and I'm feeling pretty good.
So not to take the air outof your diaper. But the we're
in Gastown, so it refills dependingon what year you know this happened.
I heard the story about I didn'tsee any years. Yeah, have you
seen kids diapers nowadays? They're freakingthick, like super thick. There's no
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way a thumbtack is getting through thatand causing the kid an whole new thing.
But yes, yeah they are.They're super thick. Right, it
would have to be nails. Yeah, okay, all right, but getting
are you actually trying to punch holesin his story? Yeah? Oh wow,
with nails instead of thumb tacks.Right, So we're just gonna like
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skip right over. I'm I'm thinkingabout editing it out so you don't need
to like justify anymore. They do. The diapers are quite thick. Yeah,
I agree with you. Yeah,okay, anyway, Hey, it's
when everybody knows. Sometimes on thisshow, you learn something. Yeah,
you learn every time you listen,you know what, So cleanse the palates.
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Why don't we take a quick break. We'll come back more about this
haunted hotel some other on the hotel. No, why do I call it
a hotel. I don't know thisrestaurant. We'll be right back mpamp and
we're back the Old Spaghetti Factory.Restaurants not Vancouver. Yeah, not a
(32:29):
hotel. Hotel, not hotel.All right, I know we have some
more information because I would like alsolike bring up there's a vortex. Yeah,
well we we cut off, kindof cut off Alicia on this whole
thing's okay, yeah, yeah,no, I just have you know why
it could be haunted. Okay,So a visiting psychic confirmed that there were
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spirits here and that the activity stemsfrom the presence of historical artifacts that they
are attached to in the building,as well as a vortex that is found
at the back of the restaurant.Yeah, they had a I guess a
couple of mediums came there. Sothere's a vortex in the back that's allowing
(33:13):
spears system, you know, traverseover and hang out. The Old Spaghetti
Factory. Wouldn't be a cheat ifa medium who were nothing but two xls
would be called a medium. Ithink it's a cheap Did you hear that?
Dead silence? Not even crickets yeah, yeah, you killed the crickets
(33:37):
too. This is the sound ofyour AC unit dehumid fire. Actually now
also gas Town. This area andthe area that the restaurant was built on
was never seeded or signed over bythe Coast Salish people Pools, which are
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the indigenous peoples in that area.But so I was thinking, maybe,
you know, maybe there's some somehard feelings and that could be why it's
sort of haunted. But or isthat vortex, Yeah, it could be
the vortex goes from like you know, Florida are using the vortex to come
(34:24):
over hang out. Yeah, whoknows. Yeah, I was just gonna
say, you know, maybe that'spart of the you know, signing it
over. They close the vortexes beforethey leave here. Well it was left
open, and yeah, they're like, well I have to deal with it.
They didn't follow Harper procedure. Nash. Yes, okay, alright,
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you got some spaghetti yes knowledge,Yeah, I got I got some spaghetti.
Spaghetti factoids. So the Old SpaghettiFactory is a chain. It's not
just one franchise. It's a franchise. Yeah. Yeah, So there are
a couple other locations that that Ifound. Now, I don't know how
many old spaghetti factories there are inthe US. See, I actually didn't
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realize it was in the US whenI was looking it up. I only
found that a couple of them.That there was a franchise in Canada.
I didn't find any US locations,but yeah, but there's I know that
there's one in Phoenix for a fact, and I know that there's one in
California. Now the location of Californiais located in Duarte, California, but
Duarte, if Duarte is in SanDiego, I'm not. I found the
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news report of old spaghetti factory inSan Diego because an employee killed another employee
and put her in a suitcase asthey do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
why not? So I think,are you leading? A lot of
old spahetti factories have some messed uphistory. There's a couple of them,
the two that I found have havesome also hauntings also based in that the
(36:01):
hauntings are based in old school artifacts, having a lot to do with their
trolleys and some of the artifacts thatthey have. Uh, the Phoenix location,
which I've actually dined in, now, I didn't know when I was
a wee lad dining in the oldspa spaghetti, spaghetti say five times fast
(36:28):
after good luck. You know thatit was haunted. But the Phoenix location
has had multiple homicides. Now thebuild now not this was before the spaghetti
factory owned the business owned the buildinganyway, this was in the building before.
So in the thirties, there wasa elderly rest who yes, ellerdid
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yeah. Yeah. There was aresident who was a little bit up there
in age, elderly, thank you, yeah, who was sleeping and was
murdered. And a woman was murderedin the basement in the nineteen thirties in
the same building. Now this isway before the spaghetti factory took it took
it over. But the reports thatthe spaghetti factory has a couple of ghosts
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there where there's reports of women's orsound of a woman's sobbing, whispers and
screams happening in there again, furnituremoving, cutlery, moving, lightbulbs coming
on, screwed blinking plates flying across. Yeah, all kinds of craziness and
the yeah. And they can alsofind a child on a bicycle with an
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old bell riding through the restaurant anda mom who was yeah, and a
mom who's sits there and watches thechild and make sure that the child is
safe. Okay, so then let'stake a little jump over to California.
Now in California, Inde, California. I think it's a wonderful sounding word.
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You can hear the sounds of childrenplaying. Now. This place used
to be a school one hundred yearsago. The allegedly where the principle of
that school hung himself and the spiritwas infused into I don't know if if
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it was in the building or inthe restaurant. I'm not one hundred percent
sure. But again, places andchairs can move on their own. There's
a piano there, I guess inthe restaurant that has been heard playing without
people sitting in it. People getthe chills and feel light headed. In
the bathroom, Hey, you knowwhat, I do that whenever I have
(38:58):
a good bathroom experience. Anyway,so I can imagine, yeah, it
was a good time. You know, Why would I imagine that? Yeah?
Please don't Yeah, I don't wantto hear anything about that. Yeah.
So, but one of the thingsthat that got me thinking about this
place is that the founder of theold spaghetti factory. Okay, Gus Dusson.
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Duson, maybe Douson who found thisin nineteen seventy He found these old
school artifacts. Okay, so inthe trolley car that's in every location has
a trolley car in it. Okay, the trolley car in the Phoenix location
was a trolley car from I thinknineteen oh five, nineteen o four,
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kind of in that range. Sohe finds all these trolley cars, is
it was kind of hard like Okay, So what's the connection between Gus Duson
creating these restaurants, finding these trolleycars and vortexas associated with the trolley cars
that is bringing out the ghosts thatare currently in the building. Are you
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trying to say that the vortexas linkup they could travel between factories? No,
No, No, that maybe Ilike that idea too, that maybe
maybe Gus Douson is a little bitmore than a franchise owner who finds these
old school trolley cars. Maybe Gusis somebody who's maybe attuned to finding these
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artifacts so and then putting them inhis restaurants, or he's oblivious and that'd
be things that have like a history. They look cool, that's all he
sees, and there's attachments or hecould be like a seventh Circle of Hell
warlock who is attaching vortices to theseAnd this isn't the part of the movie
(40:46):
where we start mapping out Yes,old spa factory, Yes, Yes,
mystery saw Yes with like Alisa Crowley. I can't think of the guy the
character's name, but this sounds likethe guy that designed the skyscrape during Skyscraper
Ghostbusters. Yes, kind of thesame thing. It was a high level
(41:07):
like, Yes, he was intothe accult the whole nine yards and on
the side, but he had somebusiness ends and he knew about No,
you're making this part out right,he wasn't into the Accolte. I don't
know that. I don't know thatit makes but I know that multiple areas
of multiple restaurants of his, allfrom a similar source, have similar hauntings.
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But they were and each location hasthese trolley cars. I don't know.
I'm just trying to I'm connecting thesedots without wanting to connect these dots.
I'm telling me to bring it upon Google Maps to see if I
can draw a line. Right,there's a lot of evidence to that circumstantial
at best, you know, tosay that question mark Gus doson Evo Shandor's
(41:55):
the architect from Ghostbusters. Yeah,kind of something similar to that. Are
there multiple locations that this dude findscursed trolley cars and they can kind of
focus make creative vortices of negative energyin there to trap these ghosts in all
of these restaurants. We'll take ita step further. Maybe he can't find
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cursed trolley cars, so he makescursed right, that's what I'm talking about.
Thank you, Dave, Yes,just out of curiosity. Do you
know if he or his estate isstill around? I don't know. I
don't know. This is the partwhere you know, we get sued for
slanner and libel and all that stuff, but on you know, but on
(42:37):
a podcast, you're not bound bythe FCC. Right now, it's wild
West when it comes, right.But most of them were actually not insinuating
we're Everything we're talking about is notin movies. What are they say?
It's not based on any living ordead person? Yeah, pure fiction.
(42:58):
But most of the submit spaghetti right, these spaghetti factories, any resemblance to
any person, real or alive ordead, is purely coincidence. Right.
Okay, So now there's our disclaimer. So the spaghetti Factory in Vancouver,
when was that founded? When didthey make that restaurant? Was seventy two?
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I thought nineteen seventy, so likeone of the first. Duson founded
the Old Spaghetti Factory Corporation, thatwhole thing in nineteen sixty nine, So
most of the spaghetti factories were builtaround that same time. I'm just saying
there could be a connection there.My gut says, oh, follow it,
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but I don't want to get sued, you know, well no,
I mean it was David brought upgetting sued ruin your happiness. Yeah,
yeah, So I just say thathe founded it. He was a founder
of the Old Spaghetti Factory like corporationwhatnot in sixty nine and in seventy seventy
one, seventy two. How manyof those locations went up, and how
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many of those corporations had trolley cars? How many of those locations had hauntings
associated with the building focused using thetrolley car as a vortex to be able
to keep them there. I don'tknow. Was he a master warlock doing
kind of sady ship? It wasally type of stuff. You know,
(44:25):
his family is still alive. Theymight not like that. It's okay,
they're not listening. Yeah, it'sbeen fifty four years since he founded this,
so another fourteen years he could bealong dead. Fifteen years, it'll
be sixty nine years and that's whenit's going to pop and lead us to
the I'm telling you the next levelevent. So in in the Vancouver location
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because sixty nine years, Well hefound it in sixty nine. He must
like sixty nine, he says,right on, you know, he was
into it. Yeah, and everyone of those locations as a trolley car.
And somewhere near that trolley car,there's a thinning of the pudding skin,
right, and that's the point ofme. But right right right,
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pointing up, Mark, and that'skeeping the people from the ghosts there from
moving on, and they're binding themto that location. I do think that
interesting that the vortex is an exitonly through the pudding skin. There's no
taking things back through. Well.I looked up. I looked up.
How do you know it's an eggitonly well, has anybody traveled from old
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Spetti factory into another realm? Youwere saying that that I would I would
go I would agree with you,Mark, Dave, whatever, who are
going on, But yes, Iagree with you percent. So it's like
something is so of Then I startedlooking up vortexes and what creates a vortex,
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and it's just a focusing of energyto thin the pudding skin between our
reality and the next. So isit keeping them there? I didn't want
to go into a whole thing aboutfinding out what a vortex actually is and
the functionality of what it does,but more than what we already talked about.
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But I'm just thinking that prograstically lookinto I was really going off the
radar with this whole you know,this decent guy, you know, but
I'm thinking maybe that is locking themin place. I don't know yet.
List do you have anything else aboutthe factory? And I was just sitting
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back listening to what was happening,rambling on watching the train wreck. Yep,
I think that my my giant maphas pins with red yarn going from
one pin to another pin to anotherpin. It doesn't create a there's only
three points on that, so okay, well, obviously all that it was
(47:02):
just what we call what theories,right, Yes, insane, crazy thing
that's hardcore ramblings. But it's alwaysfun. It's always always fun to kick
him around. Crazy ideas. Ireally like the concept of old spaghetti factories
is vortex and these ghosts can traveland hunt any old spaghetti factory. They
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feel like that's very well. Itsounds like Edward the Little Boy could have
been a school kid from the SanDiego right right right like Vancouver, and
he just well is also apparently seenwhat was the one right right in his
bike around with his mom watching.Yeah, yeah, like I don't know,
(47:46):
maybe maybe that's him getting away fromhis mom for a little while doing
some tomfoolery and then he's got toget go back to San Diego because mom's
gonna find out. You know,she's gonna be pissed. Right, we're
gonna put it. We're gonna puta cap on that. We're gonna put
a pin on the map. Nomovie to pair with that, I'm sure
(48:09):
that's okay. We could find amovie that would pair with that. That'd
be one crazy movie. Maybe wetyeah, or we could go have spaghetti
somewhere. We could just do that. Speaking of movies, we just dropped
a short documentary about the world's Strongestbro Go to darkmave dot com. Nash
(48:31):
isn't it. Yeah, I am. Dave's helped make it. He's in.
If you see some of the backgroundshots, you see Dave speaking part
what's a documentary spelled ginger in thebackground as the camera turns. Actually sometimes
I'm background. Yeah, yeahlicious init too. We had a lot of
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We had a lot of fun makingit. Check it out darkmave dot com.
You also find our short comedy TheQuest for Karmera, which just played
at the gen Con Film Festival yep, which is a pretty big deal.
So yeah, go check that out. And we got more stuff we're working
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(49:16):
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Yeah yeah, us on our space. Really this should be a crude
on our way. In quotations,hyphen mash, I'm glad you made it
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back from Canada safe and sound.I really wish you would have fought a
grizzly. That would have been away cool story, but that didn't happen.
It didn't happen, you wouldn't havewon, but we would have had
a way from story to tell everybody. I did discover that otters are huge
real life. They're much bigger thanyou think. And if I I watched
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this thing on the news, they'rekind of jerks. They are. And
if you get like six or eightof them floating in the water, they
create like a little flotilla. Andthey don't give a rat's rear. If
you're gonna rode over them with yourboat, they're not gonna move. It's
your job to move. Yeah.I saw one take a surfboard from a
dude. Yeah. Yeah, thedude had to bail like then. They
(50:27):
wanted it and they claimed it.Yeah. Yeah. They're about as big
as a probably a smaller seal.Those guys are jerks too. They all
eat your fish when they're on theline. Well there you go, say,
you dude, learn something on thisshow. As are as Until next
time, everybody, remember it's notweird. It's not worth checking out furs.
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Thank you, thank you, thankyou for the first person
Paranormal Punches is part of the podBelly Network. Go to podbelly dot com
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and you're listening to the Paranormal Puncher. Hey, friends, welcome to another
(00:35):
episode of Paranormal Punchers. I'm Mark, I'm Militia, I'm Nash, I'm
Dave. Nash is back. Yea, I am back Randy rock and roll.
Now, we told you he wentto Alaska. I'm not sure when
we got that. He went toCanada, Yeah, Vancouver, Vancouver,
but I swear you told us shewent to Alaska. Hard though you were
(00:57):
going to Alaska. Yeah, Ihad to go to a bit of Alaska
to get to where I wanted togo in Vancouver. Okay, Yes,
so the layover there was a bitof a layover. Yeah, somehow,
that's they're not even close. They'rethey're right. But where we were in
it was it was a shorter tripto Sitka, Alaska as it was then
(01:22):
compared to where we went to partPort Hardy in Vancouver. Okay. Normally
you land in Seattle and just walk. Yeah, well we didn't. I
didn't land and yeah, I camehome from Seattle, but no, I
went from Chicago to Vancouver. Yeah, and then from Vancouver I ended up
some little tiny airport flying on aBuddy Holly plane where I was, you
(01:44):
know, gripping the seat side ofthe sea, going like, oh my
god, you know how much ducttape is holding this plane together? Before
I landed in Port Hardy. Youknow the past three episodes you missed because
you've been training for strong man fishing. We talked about aliens. I know,
(02:05):
all aliens all the time. Iknow I missed it. I missed
the sweet spot. Come on,it's like your favorite thing. We intentionally
did that. Thank you, butyou know, for every for all the
listeners. Oh yeah again, welcomeback. I'm glad nothing bad happened in
Canada. You caught a lot offish and you did not run into a
grizzly bear. No bears, nobears at all. I was actually hoping
(02:28):
to see some bears. We sawwhales, eagles. We actually had some
interactions with eagles, which was reallyreally cool. A lot of otters,
some some porpoise, some porpoise porpoise. Yeah, they call them blackfish up
there, but they're actually not there. They're dolphins. But they're not.
They're Yeah, so they're they're Porpoise. Okay, okay, yeah, they
(02:51):
do things on Porpoise. I knowI'll be leaving here. We're actually Nash
with a bunch of salmon. Soyour trip worked out for us too,
Yeah, delicious. What I discoveredit is one of those one of those
filets that I showed you is aperfect size serving for me, just one
one server. Okay, yeah,when you buy the story, that's probably
(03:12):
like three or four or five flatssomething like that, perfect size for me.
Okay, yeah, right, youknow, uh, so we're gonna
need to not do aliens. We'regonna talk about a haunted restaurant that's up
in Canada. Yes, trying totheme it to your trip. And Vancouver
(03:38):
is a cool, cool, coolplace. Oh do you remember the I
was gonna say. I was gonnasay hotel for some reason, just so
you would say the word. Rememberlast time we talked about something in Canada,
Remember the name of that hotel?No? Yes, you do,
I don't. Oh uh starts Yes, if everybody likes when Nash has Bank
(04:03):
trying to walk him into that,Yeah, you had to drag me into
it. We're gonna talk about theOld Spaghetti Factory. I than Canada,
and it's apparently wicked haunted. Yes, and Vancouver's a cool place and it's
and we'll get into it a littlebit at the show. Okay, go
ahead, anyone tell us about Canadaa little no, no, no,
(04:24):
no, no, about about therelevance of the Old Spaghetti Factory in Vancouver.
Okay, let you go. Ohokay. So this is from Matador
network dot com. The Old SpaghettiFactory in Vancouver is rumored to be the
most haunted restaurant in the city.The restaurant has been serving up pasta good
(04:49):
times and, according to some employees, ghost sightings since nineteen seventy. So
the Old Spaghetti Factory it opened itsstores March. So no ghosts before the
seventies. No, and I feellike there's a reason why. Okay,
cool. It opened its stores inMarch of nineteen seventy in a building that
(05:13):
has been around since the early nineteenhundreds, the second oldest building. Yeah,
it's the second oldest one, whichthat blows my mind, Like Vancouver
was older than that. Well,the building was super old. We don't
know when the building was built,like it was yeah, it was like
early nineteen hundred. Nineteen o fourwas the first was when it opened,
(05:34):
and it's the second oldest building inVancouver. So either I don't know my
history of Vancouver. Did something happenwhere half the city burned down or something?
Or it's okay, there was wow. Uh. Actually they called the
Great Fire eighteen eighty six, sothat could answer all your questions, right,
(05:54):
probably it was called the Great VancouverFire fire. Sorry it so,
yeah, a city of about athousand wooden buildings were destroyed in less than
forty five minutes, some say aslittle as twenty uh. And eyewitness I
(06:20):
guess probably from a news report saidVancouver didn't burn, it exploded. Wow.
So that could be why this isone of the oldest buildings because the
other ones were wiped out. Okay, Well, it's funny because the way
the Vancouver's laid out, it haslike three different downtown areas with high rises
(06:42):
and whatnot. So that just makesyou want to find out what section it
is because back in the day,I'm assuming back in the day everything is
in its a little teeny tiny valley, so I would imagine if there's a
fire that whole surrounding area would justit's gone. Maybe that's why there's three
separate parts. So the area thatthe restaurant is in, it's known as
(07:04):
Gastown in the Sorry building started outas a wholesale grocery that was run and
owned by William Malkin. I guessat one point he was like the mayor
I think of the town or whatever. But apparently his spirit also haunts the
(07:28):
area as well. Well. Isaw that, and it seemed to me
the way it read was like notnecessarily that it was haunted, but it
was like the spirit of it,just like you know, drive for entrepreneurship,
it haunts the area. It's it'sjust permeable and everything in that area.
(07:48):
I came across something. I couldn'tfind anything deeper that the spirit was
haunted. And there's a reason alot of ghosts because there's people that had
problems with this guy, maybe murders, maybe he made some shady dealess disappeared.
But I couldn't find anything to backthat up. He found one article
I mentioned it, I couldn't findany truth to it. I found similar
(08:13):
but on the opposite flip side ofthat argument that he was very beloved as
the mayor and everything. But itwas during the Great Depression, and Vancouver
was basically like the doldrums of societyat that point because nobody had work and
everybody was doing their own things.So there was rampant crime and murders and
things like that. But it wasn'this fault. He was doing the best
(08:35):
that he could and he was wellloved for what he was trying to do
at the time. This is whyspeculation the facts. I imagine that.
I'm not saying I have the factsthat I was just saying I don't have
facts. I'll just say that maybeback in the day, I would imagine
that Vancouver was mostly logging, hunting, and trapping. You know, there
wasn't a lot of exports coming outof Vancouver except for woods, you know,
(08:58):
and animals. That's a lot ofwhat's up there. So maybe that
he was the guy who connected thedots and put it together, and maybe
he had to offer a few peopleand the sawmills. You know what I'm
saying, I didn't never know.We don't have any proof, no proof,
no proof, but I know thatevery major political figure you know who
was well loved, maybe they havea few skeletons, but still proof that
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Alicia would like to continue. Andit was so nice that he was gone.
So Gastown is the original settlement thatbecame the core of the city of
Vancouver. Gasstown was named for GassieJack Dayton. That's right. He was
(09:43):
a Yorkshire seaman. What I knewyou were gonna okay, steamboat, No
one did anything. I think we'regonna do. Well. He worked on
the seat. I don't know whatyou're talking about. Yeah, he was
a steamboat captain and also a barkeep. Okay. He arrived in eighteen
(10:05):
sixty seven and opened the area's firstsaloon. Nice Jack was famous for a
habit of talking at lengths or gassing, so the area around his saloon became
known as Gassy's Town, and then, of course the nickname would just eventually
it morphed into Gastown. So atleast they didn't go with the seamen part.
(10:31):
Who knows what the name the townwould be called. So by that
rationale, we would all be gassy, yes, because we all like to
talk, and we do a podcastwhere we talk, so we're all a
little bit gassy. In fact,you are, yes, I I yeah.
Every once in a while, Ienjoy good flatulence. I'm interesting,
the word for being loquacious. He'sgassy right right, right, top and
(10:58):
bottom. Either way. I thoughtyou were looking at me, Dad,
because yeah, I just dropped ansat so anyway, anyway, the Old
Spaghetti Factory is known to have vintagedickcor as well as an old trolley car
number fifty three, that was placedinside around the time of its opening trolley
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car. The trolley has several tablesand chairs inside where guests can dine in,
and is also a fun place fortourists to come in and take pictures
for gas to dining. Guess guessyes, where I heard gas. You're
really focusing on that gas. I'llgive you some later. Don't work.
(11:45):
It doesn't sound good at all.Now. The trolley car was originally built
in nineteen oh four and was astreet car that served the people of Vancouver.
So wait, the trolley was builtin nineteen oh four. I'm ignoring
what Mark said. But but yousaid it was found in nineteen oh seven.
Back in your earlier thing, yousaid that when when Vancouver started,
(12:07):
it started in nineteen was it yousaid? Did you say it was seven?
No, when the building was originallyYeah, when when was the building
originally put together? It was earlynineteen hundreds, yea, it was.
I don't have the day. I'mjust thinking that the trolley car was older
than the Vancouver the settlement before thewhole thing happened. No, I mean
you heard the saloon was eighteen sixties. So okay, that's what I was
(12:33):
fired right at the beginning of theshow. Maybe that's what Maybe that's what
the day was out. I'm alittle continuing. So the trolley yet,
it's part of the decorps inside thebuilding, and I just wanted to bring
it up, like some history behindit, because it's it's part of possibly
why it's haunted. So there areapparently four resident ghosts that are in the
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old Spaghetti Factory. The first oneis the tram conductor. So there's a
ghost that many believe is the tramconductor from the number fifty three trolley carp
which is in the building right.It is presumed that he died in an
(13:20):
underground collision that happened below the restaurant, but that's unlikely. Well, it's
unlikely because trolley cars in Vancouver ranat street level. They weren't like underground,
so I'm not really sure. Itmight just be like a fun urban
yeah urban legend or something. Butbut he didn't start appearing until after the
(13:43):
tram was installed. On thet Iheard a second so he died under under
the place or and this is theone I like better, is that he
was actually killed in his trolley somewhereelse and that he was attached to it.
So when they brought it into thenext trapp of the front like Spider
Man, I don't know, butin any case, that he it wasn't
(14:07):
about the location. It's that thetrolley car is his interesting spirit other ghost
that they say came in with anartifact. Okay, so we'll get there.
But yeah, that's interesting, likethe spirit is infused in Okay,
Okay, I could see that somany staffers have spotted him in full uniform
(14:30):
inside the tram after hours, seatedat the same table. Play settings are
also moved and cold spots are felt. So they basically attributed it to him.
But I have a quote from aguy that had an experience, or
he was detailing and experience. Butwe had two ladies come in for lunch.
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They asked to speak with the manageras they wanted to know about the
entities as they could communicate with them. Skeptical and not wanting to share.
I like to figure manager right,skeptical, not wanting to share, and
(15:15):
delicious and even though we're in myhouse, sorry I lost my place.
Yeah yeah, all right, skepticaland not wanting to share. I asked
what they saw. They described theboy in blue I told you about,
and it wasn't the we'll talk aboutthe boy in a little bit, but
but it wasn't that entity that theywanted to talk about. It was the
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other in the train. They saidhe was mad at me because I wouldn't
put up his picture. This madeno sense to me, and they said
it would be easier to explain ifI took them to the manager's office where
the picture was being kept to appeasethem. I agreed. We walked in
and the lady immediately looked way up, pointed at a single picture, and
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it was the train's conductor and shesaid, that's him there. The woman
laughed at me and said, hewants it hanging in the restaurant. Okay,
there is no way anyone knows aboutthat picture. Our owner had found
it and hung it in. I'msorry hung it up after we moved offices.
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Definitely not the two ladies. Sothe I guess this guy he was
pissed that his picture was just hidingin a room. He wanted it out
in the restaurant. But even themanager didn't know about this picture, right,
he didn't know it was there.It was hidden to him and they
pointed it out, and he's like, oh, okay, and is there
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any information about you know, werethey cut any type of psychic or medium
that they would be able to Yeah, I think they Yeah, they could
communicate or felt certain things. Doyou answer the second? I had a
question on the rest of his storybecause what I had found was he was
upset because he wanted his picture removedfrom the office. Oh see, I
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found a story about that too,and I was I think that it was
written weirdly or like they miss wrotesomething because everything else was about that he
wanted his picture out there. Yeah, right, but so but but if
you but that would make sense becauseit's like I wanted what I found.
It was said they wanted to removedfrom the office because it was stuck in
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the office, but because he wantedit in. Yeah, he wanted in
the resture. She just didn't wantit. I thought I took that as
he wanted it down and away andgone, but no, it was because
he wanted it out in the restaurant. Party would see him, if I
understand correctly. Part of the quotewas that they had moved the office.
Yeah, they moved the office,and that the where I guess however,
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it happened that the where the officeused to be is like the kitchen or
something, so it probably was hiddenbefore, yeah, and that he was
getting enough people seeing it or somethingeven though it was hidden, and then
when they moved everything, it becamelike it was just a picture on the
wall. So they just left itthere and that's what he got mad.
Yeah, he wanted some pr somegood people, and he wanted he probably
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wants some good pasta, at leastsee the pasta. They've got a good
pasta there, I gotta say,yeah, And I think to the one
in Phoenix. Yes, we'll comeup to that later. Yeah. I
think in the restaurant they have alot of like older pictures from like probably
the early nineteen hundreds or whatever,so from when Mark was born, right,
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it's been a while I had tothrow something there much older than you.
Wait anyway, so the second ghostis the Little Red Man or look
you Loo. Yeah, I gota little information on that particular ghost.
This entity is kind of I wouldsay, like troublemake or mischievous. Some
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actually believe it's a LEPrecon. Ohand this is uh they there's there are
some people who believe this thing hadit was attached to an artifact that they
brought him to decorate the restaurant.But they describe him as, you know,
having short red hair, and hehe likes to like peek through the
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door of the women's restroom, likethe you know, the toilet door,
right a stall door. H SoI feel like the Little Red Man is
also a bit of a pervert.Yeah, yeah, it's not me,
nor is he related. I wonderif that's why his nickname is luky Loo.
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Yeah. Yeah, So I wasinterested in the fact that they some
people feel like he's a LEPrecon.That's really interesting. Why would they think
that's I'm not sure why. Ican't find anything else to back that up.
Does you have a green hat?No? I guess these little red
hair maybe because they it's the redhair and then he's also shorter. Maybe
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he's a shorter man. Okay,quick aside, Yeah, I always think
of lepricons is like tiny, likethree m. That's probably the biggest one
that I would I would think,I would think it would be smaller like
what you was thinking on the luckLucky Jarma's box, right, like he's
maybe maybe six to ten inches tall. I wasn't even thinking smaller than that.
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But really, so that's why whenI hear you know that they think
he's a LEPrecon but they're seeing himstanding looking in the stalled or it's that
doesn't make any sense now, yeah, but still it's just still like four
ft tall, little three foot threeinch things walking in under has a habit
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of going into the women's bathroom andwatched him use the facility, so it's
totally perfect. Ye. On oneparticular occasion, two ladies saw him leave
one of the stalls. He wasdressed in a red shirt and a red
Long John's. After looking at them, I can tell you, as a
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Ginger, you don't wear red shirtwith the very logo on, right,
But I get told about how itdoesn't know there are certain colors that don't
work. Yeah, Yeah, soafter looking at them and laughing at them,
he left through the door. Nobodyelse saw him leave though, Like
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nobody saw him like exit the bathroom, Like it's just he just kind of
disappeared or whatever. But he's justkind of chilling in the bathroom and apparently
one of the women took a pictureof him, but when the film was
developed, he appeared kind of asa a blur. So that dates the
whole thing because if they're going totake a picture and then develop that picture,
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that was what eighties and nineties beforecell phones came out, and maybe
more earlier than that. Whatever.Yeah, so that's an old picture of
a pervy, red haired He alsolikes to roam the kitchen, where he
whispers to the staff and calls themby name. Okay, now that is
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two ghosts. Though that seem tohave an attachment to something that was brought
in to decorate the spaghetti factory.Yea, yep. Yeah, again begs
the question when you go to ayard sale, right, yeah, yeah,
where you're getting yourself old things mightlook really cool. Well there's still
so yes, I agree with whatyou're saying, Mark, but there's still
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yet a bigger question behind that onethat you might not fully realize yet,
but we'll get to that later.Oh okay, Nash, all right,
so the third ghost, let's justinvite him in. You're in my house
now. The third ghost is alittle boy. Uh. He is an
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eleven or twelve year old boy namedEdward, and he's been seen running around
the restaurant. He's blonde with hishair parted in the middle and is wearing
blue overalls. And that's consistent acrossmany people. They all say he looks
the same, like, independent ofeach other's you know stories, It's always
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looks the same. Right. Helikes to move I'm sorry. He's been
seen bending forks and knives. Yeah, but then they somehow return to their
shape when you know, when likethe staff takes it to the manager.
Right, and then he also likesto move of these knives and forks around,
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as well as unscrew light bulbs becausehe likes watching them have to try
to screw them back in. Screwon a light. Right. Chris Newson,
he was a he's a former employee, and this is a quote from
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him. We asked, can youswing a lamp, or move some cutlery,
or move a chair right now toprove that you're here, solved him.
Five seconds later, a fork liftedup off the table, swiveled around,
and drop back down onto the table. A lamp started swinging and chairs
collided. This was all visible andaudible to us. And did they record
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it? No? Why would they? Why would they do that? I
mean, come on, but therewas an interaction with a with a new
employee that started. Yes, soI don't know if do you want to
bring that up right? So,well, it wasn't a new employee.
She had worked for twelve years,yeah, and never had any problem sift
them. And then she quit onthe spot as a result of her interaction
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with Edward. But now I haveI've heard many different variations of the story,
so I'll give through all. Yeah, they all basically have the same
story that she was checking on thestuff either before her shift or after her
shift. Yeah, I know,I'm seeing both as well. Yeah,
but it was not during normal workinghours. It was correct before or after
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him. And in the first versionof the story that I read, she
came upon she came in to thetrolley and found that there was a child
with blonde hair under the the onetable and he was just sitting there crying,
and so he went she went togo get uh, find somebody to
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help, you know whatever, andwhen she came back, he was gone,
and this nerved her enough that shequit on the spot. Okay,
so not nothing really outrageous in thatreally, So then the next version I
found was that he was running aroundand actually ran into the kitchen, and
she ran after him, and whenshe got to the kitchen, he was
gone, and this freaked her outenough that she quit on the spot.
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The third version I found when shewent under the table, she saw him,
but he had no eyes in hissockets. So that that, to
me, is the reason for somebodyquitting right on the spot. And then
the fourth version is that she actuallyhad a conversation that she hasn't said what
it was, but that whatever hesaid to her freaked her out and she
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quit on the spot. Okay,So stories three and four quitting on the
spot, I'm gonna go with three. To me. If I was a
seasoned employee at a restaurant having aconversation with somebody on the spot, I
don't know their first two Yeah,whatever, you'd be like, whatever,
I gotta go home. Well,I mean you've never came across a full
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body apparition. True, Like itcould be freaky. Every single story would
be freaky enough to like, youknow what, maybe I don't want to
work here. Yeah, but afterbut a season, twelve year restaurant staffer
has seen a lot, and it'spretty it's pretty seasoned to all kinds of
crap that would happen in a restaurant. So the way I'm taking I'm going
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to the number three seeing an eyelesschild underneath a table and then be like,
know what, I'm good twelve years, I get a job I don't
need. I don't need the oldspaghetti factory. There's an Oh, there's
an old sandwich factory right down thestreet. I'm gonna go down there.
I started making sure the old sandwichfactory doesn't have any ghost. Yeah,
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well even if if you worked therefor twelve years and you've never experienced anything,
and you know there's stuff going on, and all of a sudden,
it's like, why now I don'tneed this in my life. I'm going,
yeah, spear for me, Yesit is. Oh, look at
that. Now. The last residentghost is a little girl, and I
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don't know what her name is,and I don't really know what she looks
like because I couldn't really find awhole lot about her. But she appears
at a table in the front windowand she's holding a balloon. Nobody knows
who she is. Uh, Andonce a friend of the restaurant's general manager
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had a conversation with her the lastseveral minutes, where the little girl said
she was looking for her mother.When he returned to the table after telling
the manager about her, she disappeared, well, at least haul in the
balloons. She didn't say, Hey, we all float down right, Okay,
I'm gonna get Joe. Maybe she'sthe harbinger of Pennywise. Oh and
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yeah whine or it could be pennyWise. You get shape shifted. So
half of the staff here and seethings repeatedly and the other half never do.
So I think it's just, yeah, some people are maybe open to
whatever is going on there. Butyeah, people when they go to work
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there, I try to cut youoff there, but you go to work
but and he I would imagine thatyou would hear stories and be like that's
okay, I'm okay with that.Those are the people that hear it were
completely disbelievers close to it. Therehave also been multiple mediums that have come
in and identified both the conductor andthe little boy in the train. And
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I have a little story. Therewas a woman that was sitting with her
baby in the restaurant and this kidwould not stop crying. Apparently, yeah,
darn kids. Apparently someone commented thatthere was a present standing behind where
the baby was, so mom movedher child to another seat. The crying
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stopped. When she moved the babyback to its original spot, it began
crying again. I saw that storyand I talked to myself, I think
there's one small loophole story, Okay, is that What they didn't realize is
in the first spot where the babystarted crying, in that seat that was
there, it was filled with thumbtacks. So they were sitting there baby
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on a seat of thumb tacks.So when they pulled the baby out put
on a different seat, it stoppedcrying. And then when they put the
baby back, of course on thumbtacks, the baby started crying again.
Did you pick that up or didyou? We'll never know, Mark,
We'll never know. She's never beenbased on I guess hands will never know.
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I know, they've had a coupleof beers and I'm feeling pretty good.
So not to take the air outof your diaper. But the we're
in Gastown, so it refills dependingon what year you know this happened.
I heard the story about I didn'tsee any years. Yeah, have you
seen kids diapers nowadays? They're freakingthick, like super thick. There's no
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way a thumbtack is getting through thatand causing the kid an whole new thing.
But yes, yeah they are.They're super thick. Right, it
would have to be nails. Yeah, okay, all right, but getting
are you actually trying to punch holesin his story? Yeah? Oh wow,
with nails instead of thumb tacks.Right, So we're just gonna like
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skip right over. I'm I'm thinkingabout editing it out so you don't need
to like justify anymore. They do. The diapers are quite thick. Yeah,
I agree with you. Yeah,okay, anyway, Hey, it's
when everybody knows. Sometimes on thisshow, you learn something. Yeah,
you learn every time you listen,you know what, So cleanse the palates.
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Why don't we take a quick break. We'll come back more about this
haunted hotel some other on the hotel. No, why do I call it
a hotel. I don't know thisrestaurant. We'll be right back mpamp and
we're back the Old Spaghetti Factory.Restaurants not Vancouver. Yeah, not a
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hotel. Hotel, not hotel.All right, I know we have some
more information because I would like alsolike bring up there's a vortex. Yeah,
well we we cut off, kindof cut off Alicia on this whole
thing's okay, yeah, yeah,no, I just have you know why
it could be haunted. Okay,So a visiting psychic confirmed that there were
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spirits here and that the activity stemsfrom the presence of historical artifacts that they
are attached to in the building,as well as a vortex that is found
at the back of the restaurant.Yeah, they had a I guess a
couple of mediums came there. Sothere's a vortex in the back that's allowing
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spears system, you know, traverseover and hang out. The Old Spaghetti
Factory. Wouldn't be a cheat ifa medium who were nothing but two xls
would be called a medium. Ithink it's a cheap Did you hear that?
Dead silence? Not even crickets yeah, yeah, you killed the crickets
(33:37):
too. This is the sound ofyour AC unit dehumid fire. Actually now
also gas Town. This area andthe area that the restaurant was built on
was never seeded or signed over bythe Coast Salish people Pools, which are
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the indigenous peoples in that area.But so I was thinking, maybe,
you know, maybe there's some somehard feelings and that could be why it's
sort of haunted. But or isthat vortex, Yeah, it could be
the vortex goes from like you know, Florida are using the vortex to come
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over hang out. Yeah, whoknows. Yeah, I was just gonna
say, you know, maybe that'spart of the you know, signing it
over. They close the vortexes beforethey leave here. Well it was left
open, and yeah, they're like, well I have to deal with it.
They didn't follow Harper procedure. Nash. Yes, okay, alright,
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you got some spaghetti yes knowledge,Yeah, I got I got some spaghetti.
Spaghetti factoids. So the Old SpaghettiFactory is a chain. It's not
just one franchise. It's a franchise. Yeah. Yeah, So there are
a couple other locations that that Ifound. Now, I don't know how
many old spaghetti factories there are inthe US. See, I actually didn't
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realize it was in the US whenI was looking it up. I only
found that a couple of them.That there was a franchise in Canada.
I didn't find any US locations,but yeah, but there's I know that
there's one in Phoenix for a fact, and I know that there's one in
California. Now the location of Californiais located in Duarte, California, but
Duarte, if Duarte is in SanDiego, I'm not. I found the
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news report of old spaghetti factory inSan Diego because an employee killed another employee
and put her in a suitcase asthey do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
why not? So I think,are you leading? A lot of
old spahetti factories have some messed uphistory. There's a couple of them,
the two that I found have havesome also hauntings also based in that the
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hauntings are based in old school artifacts, having a lot to do with their
trolleys and some of the artifacts thatthey have. Uh, the Phoenix location,
which I've actually dined in, now, I didn't know when I was
a wee lad dining in the oldspa spaghetti, spaghetti say five times fast
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after good luck. You know thatit was haunted. But the Phoenix location
has had multiple homicides. Now thebuild now not this was before the spaghetti
factory owned the business owned the buildinganyway, this was in the building before.
So in the thirties, there wasa elderly rest who yes, ellerdid
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yeah. Yeah. There was aresident who was a little bit up there
in age, elderly, thank you, yeah, who was sleeping and was
murdered. And a woman was murderedin the basement in the nineteen thirties in
the same building. Now this isway before the spaghetti factory took it took
it over. But the reports thatthe spaghetti factory has a couple of ghosts
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there where there's reports of women's orsound of a woman's sobbing, whispers and
screams happening in there again, furnituremoving, cutlery, moving, lightbulbs coming
on, screwed blinking plates flying across. Yeah, all kinds of craziness and
the yeah. And they can alsofind a child on a bicycle with an
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old bell riding through the restaurant anda mom who was yeah, and a
mom who's sits there and watches thechild and make sure that the child is
safe. Okay, so then let'stake a little jump over to California.
Now in California, Inde, California. I think it's a wonderful sounding word.
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You can hear the sounds of childrenplaying. Now. This place used
to be a school one hundred yearsago. The allegedly where the principle of
that school hung himself and the spiritwas infused into I don't know if if
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it was in the building or inthe restaurant. I'm not one hundred percent
sure. But again, places andchairs can move on their own. There's
a piano there, I guess inthe restaurant that has been heard playing without
people sitting in it. People getthe chills and feel light headed. In
the bathroom, Hey, you knowwhat, I do that whenever I have
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a good bathroom experience. Anyway,so I can imagine, yeah, it
was a good time. You know, Why would I imagine that? Yeah?
Please don't Yeah, I don't wantto hear anything about that. Yeah.
So, but one of the thingsthat that got me thinking about this
place is that the founder of theold spaghetti factory. Okay, Gus Dusson.
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Duson, maybe Douson who found thisin nineteen seventy He found these old
school artifacts. Okay, so inthe trolley car that's in every location has
a trolley car in it. Okay, the trolley car in the Phoenix location
was a trolley car from I thinknineteen oh five, nineteen o four,
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kind of in that range. Sohe finds all these trolley cars, is
it was kind of hard like Okay, So what's the connection between Gus Duson
creating these restaurants, finding these trolleycars and vortexas associated with the trolley cars
that is bringing out the ghosts thatare currently in the building. Are you
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trying to say that the vortexas linkup they could travel between factories? No,
No, No, that maybe Ilike that idea too, that maybe
maybe Gus Douson is a little bitmore than a franchise owner who finds these
old school trolley cars. Maybe Gusis somebody who's maybe attuned to finding these
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artifacts so and then putting them inhis restaurants, or he's oblivious and that'd
be things that have like a history. They look cool, that's all he
sees, and there's attachments or hecould be like a seventh Circle of Hell
warlock who is attaching vortices to theseAnd this isn't the part of the movie
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where we start mapping out Yes,old spa factory, Yes, Yes,
mystery saw Yes with like Alisa Crowley. I can't think of the guy the
character's name, but this sounds likethe guy that designed the skyscrape during Skyscraper
Ghostbusters. Yes, kind of thesame thing. It was a high level
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like, Yes, he was intothe accult the whole nine yards and on
the side, but he had somebusiness ends and he knew about No,
you're making this part out right,he wasn't into the Accolte. I don't
know that. I don't know thatit makes but I know that multiple areas
of multiple restaurants of his, allfrom a similar source, have similar hauntings.
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But they were and each location hasthese trolley cars. I don't know.
I'm just trying to I'm connecting thesedots without wanting to connect these dots.
I'm telling me to bring it upon Google Maps to see if I
can draw a line. Right,there's a lot of evidence to that circumstantial
at best, you know, tosay that question mark Gus doson Evo Shandor's
(41:55):
the architect from Ghostbusters. Yeah,kind of something similar to that. Are
there multiple locations that this dude findscursed trolley cars and they can kind of
focus make creative vortices of negative energyin there to trap these ghosts in all
of these restaurants. We'll take ita step further. Maybe he can't find
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cursed trolley cars, so he makescursed right, that's what I'm talking about.
Thank you, Dave, Yes,just out of curiosity. Do you
know if he or his estate isstill around? I don't know. I
don't know. This is the partwhere you know, we get sued for
slanner and libel and all that stuff, but on you know, but on
(42:37):
a podcast, you're not bound bythe FCC. Right now, it's wild
West when it comes, right.But most of them were actually not insinuating
we're Everything we're talking about is notin movies. What are they say?
It's not based on any living ordead person? Yeah, pure fiction.
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But most of the submit spaghetti right, these spaghetti factories, any resemblance to
any person, real or alive ordead, is purely coincidence. Right.
Okay, So now there's our disclaimer. So the spaghetti Factory in Vancouver,
when was that founded? When didthey make that restaurant? Was seventy two?
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I thought nineteen seventy, so likeone of the first. Duson founded
the Old Spaghetti Factory Corporation, thatwhole thing in nineteen sixty nine, So
most of the spaghetti factories were builtaround that same time. I'm just saying
there could be a connection there.My gut says, oh, follow it,
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but I don't want to get sued, you know, well no,
I mean it was David brought upgetting sued ruin your happiness. Yeah,
yeah, So I just say thathe founded it. He was a founder
of the Old Spaghetti Factory like corporationwhatnot in sixty nine and in seventy seventy
one, seventy two. How manyof those locations went up, and how
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many of those corporations had trolley cars? How many of those locations had hauntings
associated with the building focused using thetrolley car as a vortex to be able
to keep them there. I don'tknow. Was he a master warlock doing
kind of sady ship? It wasally type of stuff. You know,
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his family is still alive. Theymight not like that. It's okay,
they're not listening. Yeah, it'sbeen fifty four years since he founded this,
so another fourteen years he could bealong dead. Fifteen years, it'll
be sixty nine years and that's whenit's going to pop and lead us to
the I'm telling you the next levelevent. So in in the Vancouver location
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because sixty nine years, Well hefound it in sixty nine. He must
like sixty nine, he says,right on, you know, he was
into it. Yeah, and everyone of those locations as a trolley car.
And somewhere near that trolley car,there's a thinning of the pudding skin,
right, and that's the point ofme. But right right right,
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pointing up, Mark, and that'skeeping the people from the ghosts there from
moving on, and they're binding themto that location. I do think that
interesting that the vortex is an exitonly through the pudding skin. There's no
taking things back through. Well.I looked up. I looked up.
How do you know it's an eggitonly well, has anybody traveled from old
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Spetti factory into another realm? Youwere saying that that I would I would
go I would agree with you,Mark, Dave, whatever, who are
going on, But yes, Iagree with you percent. So it's like
something is so of Then I startedlooking up vortexes and what creates a vortex,
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and it's just a focusing of energyto thin the pudding skin between our
reality and the next. So isit keeping them there? I didn't want
to go into a whole thing aboutfinding out what a vortex actually is and
the functionality of what it does,but more than what we already talked about.
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But I'm just thinking that prograstically lookinto I was really going off the
radar with this whole you know,this decent guy, you know, but
I'm thinking maybe that is locking themin place. I don't know yet.
List do you have anything else aboutthe factory? And I was just sitting
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back listening to what was happening,rambling on watching the train wreck. Yep,
I think that my my giant maphas pins with red yarn going from
one pin to another pin to anotherpin. It doesn't create a there's only
three points on that, so okay, well, obviously all that it was
(47:02):
just what we call what theories,right, Yes, insane, crazy thing
that's hardcore ramblings. But it's alwaysfun. It's always always fun to kick
him around. Crazy ideas. Ireally like the concept of old spaghetti factories
is vortex and these ghosts can traveland hunt any old spaghetti factory. They
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feel like that's very well. Itsounds like Edward the Little Boy could have
been a school kid from the SanDiego right right right like Vancouver, and
he just well is also apparently seenwhat was the one right right in his
bike around with his mom watching.Yeah, yeah, like I don't know,
(47:46):
maybe maybe that's him getting away fromhis mom for a little while doing
some tomfoolery and then he's got toget go back to San Diego because mom's
gonna find out. You know,she's gonna be pissed. Right, we're
gonna put it. We're gonna puta cap on that. We're gonna put
a pin on the map. Nomovie to pair with that, I'm sure
(48:09):
that's okay. We could find amovie that would pair with that. That'd
be one crazy movie. Maybe wetyeah, or we could go have spaghetti
somewhere. We could just do that. Speaking of movies, we just dropped
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(49:45):
back from Canada safe and sound.I really wish you would have fought a
grizzly. That would have been away cool story, but that didn't happen.
It didn't happen, you wouldn't havewon, but we would have had
a way from story to tell everybody. I did discover that otters are huge
real life. They're much bigger thanyou think. And if I I watched
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this thing on the news, they'rekind of jerks. They are. And
if you get like six or eightof them floating in the water, they
create like a little flotilla. Andthey don't give a rat's rear. If
you're gonna rode over them with yourboat, they're not gonna move. It's
your job to move. Yeah.I saw one take a surfboard from a
dude. Yeah. Yeah, thedude had to bail like then. They
(50:27):
wanted it and they claimed it.Yeah. Yeah. They're about as big
as a probably a smaller seal.Those guys are jerks too. They all
eat your fish when they're on theline. Well there you go, say,
you dude, learn something on thisshow. As are as Until next
time, everybody, remember it's notweird. It's not worth checking out furs.
(51:06):
Thank you, thank you, thankyou for the first person
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