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Author Mark Fiorentino has been obsessed with Einstein’s Unified Field Theory ever since hearing about it when he was ten. He worked for many years in the high-tech industry, including for IBM.

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Welcome to the Paranormal Stakeout Radio TVshow with Larry Lawson. As a former
career law enforcement officer and law enforcementeducator, Larry focuses on the use of
tried and true law enforcement investigative techniquesin conducting paranormal investigations. Despite his experience
and training, Larry also and keepsan open mind to discussions on topics that

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think you know. Tonight is akind of an exciting show. I've been

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looking forward to it. This isone of those times where we're going to
be able to discuss not only sciencebut the spiritual at the same time.
So my guest Mark Ferrentino. He'san author who's been obsessed with Einstein's unified
that theory ever since hearing about itat the age of ten. He worked
for many years in the high techindustry, including IBM and Harris Corporation.

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He has now retired and as anauthor, and oddly enough, he's probably
the only person I've ever met thathas the same birthday as Albert Einstein.
And that's who we're going to talktonight about tonight. So with that,
I'd like to welcome Mark Farentino tothe show. Welcome Mark to Paranormal Steak
Out. My friend. Oh it'sgood to be here. Thank you,
Larry. Yeah, I mean lotsof talk about I mean, one of

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the things I like to do inthis show is combined the scientific analysis of
the spiritual world, and I thinkwhat you do is a terrific way to
do it. But my audience,I'd like to get them to know you
a little bit, tell them alittle bit about your background and how you
got into this field. Yeah,started at the age of ten, was

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going to Catechism classes, and thenuns asked us to find a saint on
her birthday. And that was innineteen sixty five, and there was no
internet then, and so finding thatwas not so easy. All you had
is a calendar, and what otherpeople might know. I asked my parents.

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They weren't familiar with any saints.I went over to the calendar,
you know, I still remember doingthis, going over to the calendar on
the kitchen wall and looking at mybirthday, and I saw Albert Einstein's name
there. So from there I wentto the encyclopedia and started reading about Einstein.
Eventually unified field theory. Fell inlove with that and fell in love

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with science, and from that dayforward I started studying everything I could learn
about the unified field theory, thinkingcertainly in my lifetime I would read that
somebody solved the problem, and Iwaited and I read, and I waited,
and I guess in the end theperson I was waiting for was me,

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because I wound up doing it.In my retirement years, I wrote
a book four years in the writingand went through and worked on and found
the math to explain what gravity is. And so that's louted in my book
now. But through all those yearsthere were many incidences, psychic incidences that

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kind of was pointing to something bigin my retirement. But I just kind
of drifted along and did my thingall the way up until my retirement time.
And there was some successes I hadat IBM with mathematics, making discoveries
there that said, hey, youhave a shot at doing it, And
that was in the year nineteen ninetythree, and from that time forward I

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started studying with the purpose of maybesomeday writing a book or something of that
nature. So that's how we gothere today. Well, a lot of
folks are familiar with obviously Albert Einsteinhis general and special theories relativity, but
the unified field theory. Explain whatthat is to us. It was a

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grand idea, it was the correctidea, and basically it's this electromagnetism and
gravity emerges aspects of a single fundamentalfield. So to put it in even
simpler terms, basically, they hadthis idea that there was this one field
they called it the ether or space, and that was a real thing,

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considered a real thing back before theyear nineteen oh five, all the way
up from Newton's time until then theythought for sure there was an ether until
they had this one experiment that theythought disproved its existence. That's an error
that's in history that I had tocorrect. That would be the fundamental field.

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In the other fields like magnetism,electrostatic field, and gravity are just
deformations of the quasi elastic solid,which was the fundamental and is the fundamental
field. So you twist it thisway or that way, you expand it
or and contract it. Those arethe forces that we see. Action at

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a distance comes through these slight deformationsof the quasi elastic field. And I
should for the people who don't knowwhat that is. Quasi means if I
go out in the outer space andI hold the magnet out there, field
wraps around it, the space bendsto the shape of the magnetic field.
I remove it, it snaps backinto place. Elastic means it can be

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stretched and pulled in slight deformations oneway or the other. And solid,
that's the tricky one, just simplymeans something that is continuous. It is
not made of parts. So that'swhat the unified field theory is. They
wanted to reconnect electromagnetism, electrostatic field, and magnetic field and somehow in a

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way for it to connect to gravityand make the gravitational field, which I've
done. It's in my research paperon research Gate. I've found the way
the causal nexus of gravity where itcomes from mechanically and it's nothing but a
contraction of space. So kind ofhelp this old cop here still flood foot

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that may not be quite at thatlevel with you. You're you're talking about
You've got the magnetic field, electricfield, but this you're talking about one
other extra field in space that isactually connected to magnetic field. Am I
getting this right? All the fieldsare just bending's like gravity is bending a

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space. That's what Einstein proved withhis slash set of field theory field equations,
just a slight bending. What I'veconfirmed is that bending is a contraction.
And he even confirms this. Idon't know if I want to go
there, But how did you confirmit? How were you able to confirm

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it yourself? In the electro Ilooked for Einstein. I did a lot
of research. Thank god for theInternet, I could skirt shoot across the
different different parts of the Internet tofind documents, and I looked for a

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particular anywhere where he would say thewords contraction and gravity, and I found
that eventually in a document from aMere Excels book called God's Equation, in
which he talks about Einstein's happiest thought. And in there Einstein mentions through something

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called the Aernfist paradox. I canexplain it to you if you want,
if you want to give you aquick shot at it, the line of
reasoning that began with his happiest thoughtof his life. Still at the Swiss
Patent Office, he conducted one ofhis famous thought experiments. Einstein imagine a

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circle spinning in space. The centerof the circle did not move, but
its circumference was moving quickly in acircular direction. Einstein compared what happens in
several reference frames, a standard toolhe had used in developing the special relativity
theory. Now pay close attention.I underlined this and bold and bolded it.

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He concluded, using his special relativitythat the boundary of the disc contracted
as his spun. There was aforce acting on the circle at the boundary,
called a centrifugal force, and itsaction was analogous to that of the
gravitational force, but that same contractionthat affected the outer circle left the diameter

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unchanged. Thus, Einstein concluded ina way that surprised even him, the
ratio of the circle to the diameterwas no longer pie, he deduced,
and in the president's presence of agravitation field, the geometry of space was
non accidian. Basically, all that'ssaying there is that if we take any

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kind of particles or anything and acceleratethem, a circular motion is accelerated motion.
And he said the equivalence principal accelerationand gravity or somehow the same.
But he didn't know until he readabout that himself, and he wrote several
more papers pointing to that, andhe spent the last days of his life

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trying to make that into a mechanicalmodel that would explain gravity. In other
words, what I did. Whathe didn't know, he was born too
early. What he didn't know wasthere was quarks inside of the neutron and
the proton, and they were movingin a particular pattern. This pattern right

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here, I don't know if youcould see it that well, it's such
a foil, not m And thatwas what was necessary to create the contraction,
because that's that those quirks are moving. I calculated ninety nine percent the
speed of light, and so thatcreated a sphere that was rotating and processing

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wildly, and that caused the contractionat the perimeter. That's where gravity comes
from. It was just that simple. So then I used a moment of
inertia equations too, say I canpredict the neutron and proton mass. And
I did succeed in doing that,and I've given that to other physicists to

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look at and verify. And that'swhere gravity comes from. How and one
of the topics I want to getin with you tonight. How does this
affect things such as space space travelare dealing with the speed of light?
Does this all connect? This waspart of my search. I figured,

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if I could understand how gravity couldwork, then you've got to make the
link to anti gravity, because obviouslythat's what our buddies and other civilizations have
realized. They have fully understood theunified field theory because anti gravity is part
of gravity and part of the unifiedfield theory. Einstein never even really dreamed

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about that, and neither has otherphysicists really, because they just think it's
science fiction, but it's not becauseobviously the people who who have gotten here
from other worlds use anti gravity andsomehow using anti gravity also enable them to

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break the light speed barrier. Well, we're ready to take our first break,
so when we get back, let'sstart talking about how our friends and
other civilizations you put it, usethis theory to travel. So stay with
us, folks. We'll be backwith this fascinating conversation right after these messages,
and we are back on Paranormal steakOut with my guest tonight, Mark
Ferentino. Question right off the top, do you believe space travel is possible

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from other other universes to us?I can't believe that's absolutely positive that that's
possible. With that, you weretalking about Einstein's theories and then you started
to head into the world of antigravity and space travel. How does that
all connect? Tell us your theoryon that well and pursuing the anti gravity

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angle, and yeah, I firsthad to know how gravity works. Solve
that problem. I understand it's contractionand space. So the next thing is
to figure out how to get spaceto expand expanding space is the trick to
breaking the light speed barrier and creatingsomething which I call the slipwave. Why

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is expanding space so important because itaffects that's going to be discovered that it
affects two properties, permitivity and permeabilityof space. Therese are measurable properties that
you can take a test its armand out in the outer space and you
can measure it. That means spaceis a real something. It wouldn't have

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these detectable properties otherwise. And theyhave to do with the way the electric
field and a magnetic field develop andare controlled within space. And who discovered
that James Clerk Maxwell, who backin his day discovered that sea the speed
of light equals one over the squareroot of permitivity times permeability. So if

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you play with that equation and youdrop those numbers, which are already very
small, speed of light goes up. So he who masters outer space biases
it spatially biases it with a feeldthat causes those two properties to drop.
That spaceship can go much faster thanthe speed of night. Not just a

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little bit. I'm talking tens ofthousands of times. And if you were
to drop those values to zero bypulling space way apart, now you could
go infinitely fast, and that's beendone in meta materials that I've read about
on the Internet, where they modifythe material in such a way that its
primitivity and permeability is dropped to zero, and they claim that they shine light

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in that and it goes infinitely fast. Now there's some controversy about that,
and the physicists are arguing about that, but that's the claim. But it
makes sense. It backs up themath. The math backs it up.
That's what we would expect to happenif you indeed drop those two properties of

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space down to zero or near zero. So that's how our alien buddies,
I am confident, are breaking thelight speed barrier. And I'm talking the
entry level technology that we could useto do the very same thing and get
to other star systems, get toMars. Mars could easily be gotten to

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in fifteen minutes or less. That'sa practical usage of our space technology.
You can't do that with rockets.You can't go to other stars with rockets.
You not only have to make thelight speed barrier, you have to
break it, and you have tobreak it by tens of thousands. And

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this fortunately was built into the systemfrom the get go of the creation of
the universe. So what I'm workingon now is the development of the slipwave,
which is a means to develop antigravity emitter along with the big surprises.

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Not only do you make an antigravity emitter, but it's coming from
a dipole, which is a northsouth pole or positive negative pole field,
and out of the other end,the positive event is a gravitational field,
but not like the one that theplanet generates. It's this one is a
non contractive which then allows us inthe spaceship to have some sort of gravity

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that you can stand on, butyou don't get inertia, so that the
ship can be turned. The antigravity here. The gravity here you fall
in or pushed forward using the slipwavetechnology, and you don't feel inertia,
so you can do an instant accelerationand within the bubble of the slipwave,

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it will feel like you're not movingat all. And this is why our
alien buddies don't die when they gofrom zero to four thousand miles an hour
in a second, or war ormake a right turn. And that's been
one theory here that people said,well, we could never reach light speed
because it would crush us. Now, how does this Does this fly in

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the face with the wormhole theory ortraveling between the university? It doesn't.
I'm gonna get the wormhole out ofthe way, because that's a really kind
of a bad concept overall. Youmay be able to do something equivalent with
that in a stargate technology. Butwhat I'm talking about is you modify space

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with this field, and what itallows you to do is travel through that
space as if it's almost not there. So because you pull it apart,
now it's less of what it wasbefore, the density drops dramatically. And
so if you just think about thisin sequels, right time's time. If

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you actually reduce the distance in spacebetween here and wherever you're going, you
can go there much faster. Themath will back up what I'm already saying,
because you're physically changing the metric ofspace, the distance, what's there,
what's in it, And that's thekey to breaking the light speed barrier,

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and that's the key to going atwhatever speed you need to. And
that's the way I think our alienfriends are doing for the most part.
I'm sure there's more advanced technologies thatuse stargates that use interdimensional travel. You're
talking civilizations that are millions of yearsahead of us. I'm just sticking to

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the technology that we can possibly build, electrogravitic model. Mainly there's a magnetic
model, but that's much more difficultto build, and working on the program
that allows us to design these craftslike the flux Langer that Mark McCandleish has

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talked about. Well, I knowhow to design and build that now now
have without how to ask this question? Do you have an outlet for your
work? I guess is what I'mtrying to say is do you have someplace
where you can take these theories wherethey can be manufactured for lack of a
better term, and puttage into us. No, I have no connections there.

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I work alone. I've always workedalone. I'm hoping at some point
there are there is. There isone person that I know of who's interested,
and I'm going to give them theinformation. I'm not really worried about
getting a patent or anything. Iknow that we need this technology. Why

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do we need this technology? BecauseI know our Earth's core is unstable and
at any time there could be massiveearthquakes or massive volcanic activity that could pretty
much end life here on Earth,so we have to We will not be

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safe until we have the technology tobuy locate to another world. And the
sooner we get that done, thebetter. Because there are certain things I've
discovered about the core of not onlythis planet, but of the Sun,
all other planets and stars. There'sa basic ingredient that a mankind is not

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aware of yet. And how haveyou discovered that? Well, when I
was writing the book, I wentinto the cosmology theory using the theory of
super relativity, and I discovered thatstar formation planet formation doesn't make sense the
way it's explained today, which isbasically this. Somehow the gas is in

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outer sp hydrogen get twisted into anod, then compress and then you know,
get immensely dense and start fusion.And I say, this makes no
sense because the gravitational force is manyor many many values of powers less strong

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than the electromagnetic field. So thehydrogen particles that are in outer space are
never going to compress with gravity ontheir own. There needs to be a
gravitational source. And the physicists knowthis, and they dance around it and
say, well, somehow it justhappens, but their evidence demonstrates exactly how

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it happens. All stars are formedwith something called a neutronium sphere rapidly spinning
the vice made of nothing but solidneutronium. Where did that come from?
The Big Bang? How do Iknow it's there? All their evidence and
I'm talking about astrophysics. Every timea star blows up, what's left is

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a neutron star or a black hole, which is in my theory, just
a super dense neutronium sphere. Andinstead of assuming that it was there already,
they thought they've made up the ideathat the explosion created the neutronium sphere,
and I'm saying, no, itwas already there. It was what

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formed the star in the first place, by gathering the hydrogen, pulling it
in, compressing it, and startingthe fusion process. Unfortunately for us.
I believe planets are created in thesame way and create all the elements.
That's why we have all the elementshere on Earth. They didn't just fall

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out of the sky. They weremanufactured right here. And it needs to
be that way in order for thissystem and other systems to develop light life,
because you need all the elements.You just can't have a few.
You can't expect them to fall fromouter space randomly somehow getting all the elements

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and they were manufactured here. It'sa part of the intelligent design process.
So this is such. And youhad said something earlier that that caught my
ear and I wanted to ask youto expound upon it. You talked about
almost an intelligent creation of the universe. You had you had made mention of

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that getting close to our break.But if you can just give me the
basic concept theory that you have onthis all being created from one area?
What is well, I didn't justyeah, my theory uses the idea of
intelligent design. I know for surethere's a guy. I know that for

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sure there's a ge And religion isa vitally important thing, and it could
be any religion that the aliens touse to have a universal religion. God
is universal being, and we tendto think locally. But there are things
advantages you get if you assume intelligencedesign. That's how I stumbled onto the

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neutronium sphere theory because I used andwill wait until after the break because it's
slightly technical, but once you hearit you're gonna say, oh my god,
how did they not think of that? And it will make sense and
it's an intelligent design theory. Okay. And as we get ready to go
to our break, this has beena very in depth scientific discussion. But

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when we come back, I wantto talk about intelligent design. I want
to talk about your walk through thespiritual psychic world also, So when we
come back, we're gonna get intothat. Folks day with us. More
to come on this very intellectual conversation. Stay with us. We're back after
these messages. We are back onparentor will stake out my guests, Mark

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Ferentino. Am I pronouncing that correctly? Mark? Yes, that's good.
Great. We started to talk beforethe break about your theory, your thoughts
on intelligent creation of the universe,and I've heard you speak about it before.
Kind of go back into that,into that theory, and then from

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there, I'd like you to moveon into your introduction as a youth to
the paranormal side, the spiritual side. So if we can start with your
belief on the creation of the universe, will move from there. Well,
I assume something immediately, there wassomething suspicious in physics. There's a little
known phenomenon about the neutron. Ifyou take a neutron by itself and put

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it into outer space, within fifteenminutes, it's going to break down and
turn into a proton and an electron. And so, well, what's the
big deal there? That's hydrogen,And I says, what does the universe
need when it starts up in thebeginning, Lots and lots of hydrogen.
So now I say, what ifI assume as physicists think that's just the

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random thing that happens, they don't, you know, all the energies in
this, and they have all thesekind of like mathematical explanations, but they
don't know why the neutron does thatin that particular situation. And other situations
the neutron will stay stable for billionsof years when it's combined with other protons
or other neutrons. That I sayis no accident. That is a clear

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case of intelligent design. So Iassumed that that was done in the beginning
so that the neutron there would bea I'm assuming now there's going to be
a large sources of neutron coming fromsomewhere, because that's the basic building block

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we need to assemble a new universefrom the Big Bang. So then I
went and said, oh, well, I'm pretty darn sure that black holes
are just super dense neutron stars.So eight solar masses are more, it
becomes a black hole, and whenthose stars blow up, there's a black
hole air. But I'm saying thatwas there in the beginning. It's what

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gathered the gas and created the star. So in the beginning there was a
supermassive black hole made of nothing butneutronium. It blew open neutronium, plasma
comes out gas. Within fifteen minutes, it starts converting the hydrogen, just
what's needed to build a universe.And along with it was spheres of areous

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sizes of neutronium, and they're allspinning, which is perfect. You need
them to be spinning. So thatframe dragging technique will gather the gas,
blend it right to the hard surface. It will crush it and then and
then start stars building. It justneeds to go into gas clouds and gather
them. And so all of thegalaxies have these large black holes in their

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center. They're spinning around. Allthe stars are spinning around that from the
frame and dragging technique, and itexplains everything, all the creation of stars,
everything comes from the beginning where therewas just nothing but neutrons. And
so that's part of my And wheredid that come from? The Father Father

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God, as Jesus has called him, our father, who aren't in heaven.
So and you know, you know, people get upset if you bring
religion in. But I can tellyou from having many encounters and a lot
of study with near death people,that issue keeps coming up, the creation

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issue. And God says I didcreate this, and I could give you
specific words that he said the FatherRick Wendell on this subject, and he
and it confirms what others many othershave heard from God on the other side.
Whose father Rick Wendell? Father RickWendell is a man who became a

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priest. He wasn't a priest atthe time of his near death, but
his near death experiences, you know, changed his life and it became a
preseason on my website. I havea little video of him. He was
on YouTube and basically he says,all of this three dimensional world is within
God. There is nothing outside ofGod. Everything within this physical universe has

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to correspond to laws and God setthose laws. They are immutable, as
God is immutable. None of thiswhat we see and experience is an accident.
It is intentioned by God, andI use those were the power of
intention throughout my book. We're goingdown to the very poor of reality and

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either it just popped out of spacefrom nowhere, or there was a creator
and the creator is telling people andnear death experiences. I did this,
and you guys need to get onboard when you know that that's important knowledge
for all of humanity and for anyspecies anywhere. So that's part of my

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equation that the spiritually speaking. Theother thing is I did have encounters with
psychics when I was very young andthroughout my life, and the first psychic
that I saw, Martha McKay,mentioned something, not to me directly,
but to my friend that came inafter me, and there was at Cassadega.

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That's right, and there was areason she did that because she didn't
want me or they didn't want measking questions about it. And when we
got in the car and we droveoff from Cassadega to Daytona Beach, he
mentioned that she said, boy,someday you're going to make a great discovery
and you're gonna be world famous.I says, huh, I wonder why

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she didn't tell me that, becausethat's kind of an important point to leave
out. And yeah, well thenafter that, five more psychics kind of
confirmed it. Over the years,there was something big coming. And that's
when I started studying more of neardeath stuff and come to realize that all

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people come to this earth with alife plan. And so I'm kind of
stumbled upon mine by listening very closelyto what they've told me over the years,
and I kind of put put itall together. It's a bunch of
clues that are basically saying you camereally primarily to do what you're doing right

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now, and and to do thismath and to do this science, and
to talk about bringing religion and spiritualismand science back together again because science really
comes from religion. And I agreewith that. Now, just for folks,

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in case you don't know where Cassadeggis, it's just a little spot
in north of Orlando, Florida.It's I don't know, if you can
explain it yourself. Mark. It'sa spiritualist over the world, Okay,
Yeah, and it's quite quite aninteresting place. But your your concept here

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intrigues me because it comes makes mecome to think of a term that I've
used several times in the show,the collective conscious, or that everything is
wrapped together into one right. Isthat kind of where you're going with this?
Yeah, because you mentioned there's nocoincidences, which I personally believe also
their synchrono synchronicity as well as there'sno coincidence, Is that what you're you're

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thinking that just everything is connected,whether we call it God as we do
in the Christian faith, or Muhammador Buddha, all the same thing.
Is that all the same thing.There's been cases where people have died simultaneously.
In one case that I read,a Christian, a Hindu, and

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a Muslim were struck by lightning.They all went up the tunnel together.
They all saw God at the sametime. And as they were looking at
him, the other one was seeingthat, hey, he's seeing God,
looks like a Christian God with youknow, the great white Beard, and
the other one saying he's seeing theWell of souls, and the other one
saying he's seeing Krishna. They allcould look at each other confirmed that the

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other one was seeing the God asthey expected him to be, but it
was one and the same. AndGod, really, as I had come
to understand, it is not thatworried about which version we have. He
wants a personal relationship with each andevery one of us. The religions are

(36:27):
just a road to get to thatdestination. Like there are many roads that
go to New York City. Youcould take any of these roads and still
get to New York City. It'sthe same thing with God. It's a
universal being, and we need tostart thinking bigger and that we're not the
only people in the universe, andwe're not the central part of the universe.

(36:50):
We're not. We are just onelittle spec amongst billions and billions and
infinite number of other worlds and universesthat are out there. If God could
create one universe, why not too? Why not ten? Why not a
million? Why not a billion?So what I'm saying is that this what

(37:13):
we're experiencing now is has been likenedto like inside of a shared dream of
God, inside of the mind ofGod, so that everything that's created really
comes from the super consciousness, andthen we are all connected. And many
people say that when they get tothe other side they're connected to everything,

(37:38):
they have knowledge of whatever they want. There isn't anything that's not knowable.
Once you're back in the spirit realm, it's it's it's a bigger picture than
any of us have imagined. AndI would agree with that. Now,
you getting back to the psychic connectionon this, because you had the experience

(38:00):
in Cassadega, I believe you hadanother experience were you were actually connected with
your mom. Yes, definitely,That's how I got the evidence that I
know for sure there's an afterlife andwe don't die. In that particular experience,
I was in living in Charlotte withmy first wife at the time,
and for various reasons, it wasrecommended, but we go to a psychic

(38:27):
there and Charlotte Junior Riggs was hername. She actually lived somewhere here in
Florida at the time, and wemet her in her hotel room and almost
immediately after we started talking, shesaid, and I was just sitting there,
just taking it in as I usuallydo. I say as little as

(38:50):
possible because I don't want to leadthem on. And she says, your
mother's here, and she says thatshe's been sitting in the Golden Yellow chair
in your bedroom, and I whenyou've been praying to her and asking her
to sit there. And that's exactlywhat I did. I mean, only
I knew that. I didn't eventell my wife. I would say my

(39:12):
prayers at night my mom had passedaway, and I would try to have
a conversation with her about my dayand everything, and I would invite her
to sit in that chair. Sothat's evidence, rock solid evidence that I
know happened and for sure. Andso what I'm telling everybody else out there,
you could take this to the bank. Your parents, your family,

(39:35):
your friends. They don't die anddisappear into oblivion. They live on in
the spirit, realm, heaven.And that's part of this process that we're
going through here. Well, we'renot ready to take our last break,
and when we get back, we'regoing to talk a little bit more about
that. So folks, stay withus. We've got one more segment coming.

(39:57):
Please stay with us, and we'llbe back right these men, We
are back on Paranormal stake out.My guess, Mark Farentina at night.
What an interesting conversation this has been. We kind of into the last segment
discussing how the fact that there's lifeafter we leave this this realm that we're
in. Translate into ghosts spirits.Considering your theories and the things that you've

(40:22):
experienced, you believe in ghosts.I believe in spirits, Okay, not
sure what you mean by ghosts,Well, you know, like spooky things.
I believe in spirits definitely. There'sno doubt in guardian angels in particular.

(40:43):
But is there malevolent spirits out there? There does seem to be some
of those two. But the spiritof can the spirit of somebody we love,
a family member come back to usin a form that we recognize in
your Yes, I believe that's justhappened recently to me, But I cannot

(41:06):
talk about it because I want evidenceand I want some somebody to give me
the evidence. But I had somethingvery dramatic happen, and I believe it
was from somebody trying to communicate tome directly. But you know, all
I can do is say, yeah, I think that's what it is.
But to get evidence, like fromanother psychic against So if I talk about

(41:30):
it, then then it'll invalidate theevidence that I should might get at some
point, And evidence is what we'researching. To prove all of this beyond
reasonable doubt, as I would say, might, but I have other evidence.
I have direct contact with spirit beingsduring my my my divorce time the

(41:53):
first seven years after I got divorcedmany years ago, I was visited in
my bedroom at night from prayers.I mean, I was in desperate,
bad shape, and they came tome. Improved that they were there in
a beautiful way, an inspiring way, in a comforting way, and I

(42:17):
needed that more than anything because Iwas on the edge. I was in
a rack of a human being atthat point. And that seems to be
the time when when these things happenedto us. I've even had my life
saved, but you know, directlyby a voice that spoke to me,

(42:38):
prevented me from getting into an automobileaccident that most assuredly would have taken my
life had I been hit head on, as I might have been had I
not been warned. And that isan issue mark that is important to me
because we've all a lot of ushave had experiences and certainly for millenniums,

(43:00):
for generations, people of every socioeconomic level, profession have had experiences,
and those of us that have hadwe know what's real, but we have
not yet reached a point where wecan prove it. So I guess what
I'm wanting to find out from youis your theories, your your studies,

(43:24):
your work has gotten us to thispoint. Is that going to provide the
proof for us in the future?Do you think we are I've given this
a lot of thought and getting theproof that a physicist would need. The
problem is that they're they're thinking.It's more than just needing evidence, it's

(43:50):
they're very thinking that is programmed insuch a way as that excludes even any
evidence or possibility of evidence that couldconvince them that there's a spirit realm.
But you know what always does.It always takes the most devout atheists and
turns them around a near death experiencelike Howard Storm was teaching it. I

(44:19):
believe it was not Harvard Yell,and he was an atheists most of the
professors there are, but he hada near death experience and he got enlightened
in a hurry. And there's nothinglike personal experience to convince even the most

(44:43):
skeptical skeptic that things are different thanthey thought. And maybe what we're going
to get eventually because we're getting rightnow, as I see it, there's
an army of people coming out ofthe woodworks having near death experiences and getting

(45:05):
on the internet and giving us thoseexamples. The evidence is just flooding in
now. They would all have tobe liars for this not the case,
and it's just not so. AND'sand that's my point too, unless there's
a huge portion of the population that'scrazy or a huge portion of the population
that are Charlatan's there's got to besome answer to this. And I and

(45:30):
going back to taking this all theway back to the unified theory, do
you see this all being connected throughthat theory through well, if I imagine
this, imagine somehow somebody backs meup in authority, some physicists, some
scientists somewhere. I mean, that'sthe key, the doorway that gets you

(45:52):
in too. I mean, ifsomebody does solve like I am claiming,
solving the unified field theory problem andas well as what I've just come to
realize the method for particle motion whichEinstein was looking for. These are these

(46:13):
are big deals. These get verified, they verify my math, and they
come to the conclusion that this canbe scientifically tested and it can and it
works. It's going to give methe credibility to maybe start people thinking.
He says, well, he didcome up with that theory and that was

(46:36):
right. He did come up withthat explanation, and that was right.
And he's admitted that he's asking thefather or the creator. If you want
to know how something works, goto the creator of that something and ask
him. You know, when wetalk to psychics and mediums who are real,

(46:58):
the real deal, we're basically andanybody we talked to on the other
side, you're basically talking to Godbecause they're all connected and they're they're going
to give you valid information to whatdegree they can. They can't just fork
over all the answers to everything.We have to earn it, we have

(47:21):
to live it. This is achallenge and we have to experience it.
So they're guiding and helping us,but they're not going to say now today,
I want you to do this,this and that. Don't deviate from
that. I think we got aproblem. We got a problem with it.
Two, because not all psychics andand I've known some real fakes,
and I've known some that I havea lot of faith in, but none

(47:43):
of them tell you the same story. Basically, some of them have the
same general theory of what's going on, right, but there are things I
know what you're talking exactly so thatI mean, so there's a human element
into it. So what you're seeingis the entire from the unified theory to
the dealing with the psychics, thatall comes from the Father or the Greater

(48:07):
Being. Right, Yeah, that'swhat it's all boiled down to. This
is all a part of an exercise. It's a big, much bigger picture
than we'll be able to express tonightand really get out there. We could
just hopefully give the people out therethe idea that says, hey, I

(48:27):
came from that place too, andI have a mission. Everybody does everybody,
there's no exceptions, and just ifthey could start thinking along those lines,
and you want to start working onwhat you came here to do,
whatever that is, and it's inyour heart mainly, and you have to

(48:47):
keep working towards that. It's differentfor everybody. But as long as you
agree to work with God, thenyou start getting all the help. I
said, Okay, he's on board, and we can start giving him information.
He's not just doing his own thing. To whatever it is for his

(49:07):
ego or for his pocketbook or whatever, he's doing it for the right reasons.
He's gotten on board train or theGod team God, as I like
to say it. But that's whereI want to be. That's where until
and you're right, if folks thathave had experiences, you can't take away

(49:29):
or change what they've experienced, whatthey believe. But until we reach a
point where we can provide evidence,and I don't know that we'll ever get
there. It is my fervent beliefthat we will if we keep trying.
But wherever the evidence takes us iswhere we have to go, and we
need the evidence to do that.Maybe if we ever get to meet the

(49:50):
aliens, that's a good question forthem because they realize there's a God.
They don't question that as far asI know. I was going to ask
you that, So you have youever had any personal experience with aliens,
with extraterrestrials. I've interviewed people thatI thought were the real deal and in
in depth interviews and ask them someof these questions, and without a doubt,

(50:14):
they say they believe in a universalGod God that is everywhere and is
caring and connected to everything. Peoplehave that idea of the power of God.
That's another thing, and that's anotherthing I've run into too, is
you talk to folks in the UFOcommunity and you can't really oftentimes get the

(50:35):
same description of stories from them.They're all very Yeah, maybe somebody's telling
the truth. Maybe some of thesepeople are making it up. You know
that That's part of the challenge thatwe got to go through with in the
UFO community, in the spirit allthe communities, and when we close our

(50:57):
minds, when we close our mindsand don't look look for the other possibilities
just because then we'll never learn andgo forward in our last couple of minutes
together. How can folks find you? Mark your website and I tell you
yea www. Dot super hyphen relativitydot com, super dash relativity dot com

(51:20):
is my website. You can seesome of my videos there. I also
have a YouTube channel. You cango find me there. There's a link
on my website to take you straightthere. It's got some of my shows
like this on there that people gaveme permission to copy. I got links
to my two papers that are onresearch Gate and I'm going to be uploading

(51:43):
a third hopefully here in a coupleof months, which will have the method
of building anti gravity emitters. Veryimportant work and it also explains what Einstein
was working on, which was theway that particles move the math. Excellent

(52:06):
and as we begin to close outtoo, I just want to make mention
to everybody. Check us out atParanormal FBI dot com or Indian Riverhauntings dot
com. Again. You can alsocheck out what we do on YouTube at
Indian Riverhuntings two three four one.Don't forget check out all the great programming
on the XO TV and Broadcast Network. Great shows on there, and you

(52:28):
can get a hold of me atghost Guy at Paranormal steakeout dot com.
And also check out all my showsat Paranormal Steakout. I said dot com,
I met dot org, I apologize. Let's ghost Guy at Paranormal Steakout
dot org or check my show outat Paranormal Steakout dot org. So I
appreciate it, folks, thanks forbeing with us tonight. It was a

(52:49):
great show. I want to thankmy guest Mark for Antina for being with
us. And until then, takecare of yourselves, love your family,
hug your kids, and we'll seeyou on the other side. Have a
great folks,
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