December 1, 2023 • 51 mins
Researcher Mike Ricksecker is the author of the Amazon best-sellers Travels Through Time, A Walk In The Shadows, and Alaska's Mysterious Triangle, as well as several historic paranormal books. He has appeared on multiple television shows and programs, including History Channel's Ancient Aliens and The UnXplained, Travel Channel’s The Alaska Triangle, Discovery+’s Fright Club, Animal Planet’s The Haunted, multiple series on Gaia TV, and more. Mike is the producer and director of the docu-series, The Shadow Dimension, available on several streaming platforms, and produces additional full-length content on ancient wisdom, lost civilizations, and the supernatural on his extensive YouTube channel. For more than seven years he has hosted The Edge of the Rabbit Hole livestream show and he also hosts the Connecting the Universe interactive class on his online learning platform, the Connected Universe Portal. He operates his own book publishing and video production company, Haunted Road Media, representing a number of authors, and winning the award for Excellent Media In The Paranormal Field at the 2019 Shockfest Film Festival. Mike also hosts the annual Stargates of Ancient Egypt Tour, an exploration of Egypt’s pyramids and temples for lost advanced technologies, the secrets of esoteric alchemy, and ancient stargates. A native of Cleveland, Ohio, Mike is a U.S. Air Force veteran with a background in Intelligence and a degree in computer simulation programming. He’s been researching unexplained phenomena across the world for nearly 30 years.
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Good evening everyone, and welcome backto Paranormal Steakout. I'm your host,
Larry Lawson, coming to you fromthe headquarters of the Florida Bureau of Paranormal
Investigation and Indian River Hauntings here inbeautiful Vero Beach, Florida. If you'd
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the beginning of each show. Sohope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving and they're
getting all tuned up for the Christmasholidays coming. It's a lot really cold
up in the north end of thiscountry right now. We've had a little
cold snap here. I think wehad a well, we hit the eighties
today, but it's been in theseventies and sixties here recently. I know
my friends up north are gonna shootme for that comment, but let's get
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into tonight's show. I got agreat guest tonight. I've got researcher,
investigator, author, podcast host,producer, and director Mike Ricksecker. Mike
has over thirty years of researching unexplainedparanormal phenomenon across the globe. He is
a native of Cleveland, Ohio,Buckeye like myself, and a veteran serving
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our country in the United States AirForce. He's also been on a number
of number of television shows. He'sbeen on Discovery Channel, History Channel,
Travel Channel, Animal Planet, andguy A TV. So a breadth of
experience and information here. I'd liketo welcome Mike Ricksecker to the show.
Mike, thanks for joining us tonight. Hi, Larry, thanks so much
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for having me tonight. I reallyappreciate it. I'm very excited to have
you on. We've got a lotto talk about, but I like my
audience to kind of get to knowwho you are a little bit. Can
you kind of share with us.How you began your journey to paranormal research.
Yeah. Absolutely. Like a lotof people, I was an experiencer
and that's really where my curiosity began. It goes all the way back to
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when I was a child, abouteight years old, and I first really
significant paranormal experience was with what wewould call a shadow person, but I
had no idea about that at thetime. I'd woken up in the middle
of the night and there's this tall, dark figure standing in the corner of
my bedroom and you know, Ididn't know anything about you know, shadow
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entities or anything like that at thetime. I thought there was an intruder
in the house, and you know, they've broken in to rob the place,
maybe kill me. You know,that's where my mind goes at eight
years old, and you know,fortunately I'm still alive to tell the tale,
which is great. But it diddo something very unusual. So I'm
you know, I see the thing. I'm trying to scream because I'm scared,
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but I'm so frightened that just mymouth opens up and nothing comes out.
Too terrified, it approached my bed, leaned over and I'm staring into
this blank black face. There's nothingthere, no eyes, no nose,
no mouth, nothing, And againstill trying to scream, but nothing comes
out. He ends up grabbing meby the wrists, crosses my arms across
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my body, and then runs offdown the hall. And a moment later
I found my voice, found mylegs, run off, screaming in my
parents' bedroom, and you know,they're trying to console me, call me
down, trying to tell me thatjust had a bad dream. But I
knew I hadn't had a bad dream. I had been awake for this whole
thing. Now, I would nevercall that a haunted house. This was
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just a one off incident in thatparticular house. A couple other little things
that I had seen, you know, maybe before that, but it's hard
to know because I was so young. But about you know, five years
later, we had moved to anotherhouse. We had been originally from Ohio,
but we when I was three,we had moved to Massachusett's been ten
years there, moved back to Ohioand that particular house had a bit more
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going on with it where you unpackingboxes, putting things away in my new
bedroom and kept seeing this figure inmy doorway. I'd turn and look off
it would go and this kept happening. You know, I'd be unpacking boxes,
putting things away, and to seethe figure turn and look and it
would just run off toward my parents'bedroom. What's going on. This happened
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several times over the course of thefirst few days that we were there.
So I decided to ask my momabout it, and she admitted that she
had also seen this thing, whichwas great for me. It was an
affirmation that it wasn't crazy, andshe said it in such a way that
she didn't seem very concerned about it. So this, okay, Mom's not
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alarmed. Mom's not scared about it. She's just kind of like, yeah,
it's there. So I didn't becomescared about it either. Actually,
I playful with the thing and startedcalling him Tom, like peeping Tom.
So the only time we show openedmy doorway, I say hi Tom,
and coffee go running down the hallwaysomewhere. And that activity subsided after a
few months, and so I justchalked it up to something that was there
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curious about the new family, andit just went about its business after that.
So those were my first really significantexperiences. The following year, when
I was a freshman in high school. It was my first little paranormal investigation.
And again I had no idea youknow what that was. You know,
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we're talking. You know, itwas nineteen eighty nine and where there
weren't the ghost shows. You didn'tknow about go sell investigating. That sort
of things was before all of that. I mean, it existed and people
did it, but it wasn't youknow, very wide known. You had
Honseholzer, who did I did recentHonsholser. You know, you had the
Warrens, and then there were somesmall teams kind of scattered about. But
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yeah, my friend David and Iwere at our friend Laurie's house just shooting
the breeze, you know, talkingteen drama and all that sort of stuff.
And she lived in an older historichouse in the downtown area of Worcester,
Ohio, where we lived, andall of a sudden, she says,
I think my house is on it. Oh, okay, this is
this is interesting, this is cool. To tell us some stories. So
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she starts telling some stories about thehouse. There's like an old family cemetery
back behind the house and things thatgo on. But then her her most
concerning thing was in her bedroom.She had this one wall that she couldn't
tack up anything on that. Youknow, we're talking like posters and you
know, things that a teen girlwould put on our wall. And so
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you know, if she put itup there, about a day, a
week, maybe even hour later,the thing would alway whatever it was,
So okay, we're gonna go checkit out. We're gonna investigate. Go
up there, and we're taking alook at the room, taking a look
at the wall. Laurie keeps tellingus some more stories, and my friend
David, he put his hand flatto the wall like that, and all
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of a sudden, he started sweatingprofusely and he turned this bright, bright
red. And I'm looking at David, like, oh my gosh, what
in the world is going on.I've never seen anything like this before.
So he starts going like wall towall in the house trying to find the
kind of quote unquote hot spots.And that was the moment that I knew,
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and I didn't know what it was, but I knew that somehow,
some way, shape or form,I was going to be involved in this
sort of phenomena for the rest ofmy life. And that's where I started,
like, you know, whatever bookthat I could get my hold,
my my hands a hold of whichyou know, we were in a small
town, so it wasn't too much. But you unfortunately, once kind of
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the uh, the internet came along, you kind of with people and that
sort of thing. That's that's kindof really when it started to flourish.
So obviously you got connected with thespirits, ghosts if you will, Well,
what's your focus these days and howdid you get there? Did you
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decide to expand your horizons that justdecide to find out what other experiences were
out there? Yeah, you know, over the years, it just kind
of, you know, noticed inrealizing all this different phenomena that we're talking
about, whether it's ghosts and spirits, ufo activity, cryptids, interdimensional beings,
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they're all connected. They're all interrelatedto each other. I always had
a fascination with you know, Ido a lot of stuff on ancient history,
lost civilizations, that sort of thingas well, and I'd always had
a fascination with that as a kid, with all the history you grew up
in the school system in Massachusetts andhistory is a big thing, American Revolution
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and all of that. And thenI was fortunate enough in high school where
I had a couple of really goodhistory teachers for world history and US story
that were very, very good storytellers. So I was always fascinated in that.
And then early nineties, nineteen ninetythree, the Mysteries of the Sphinx
documentary comes out with Robert Shock andJohn Anthony West Charleston Heston was the host
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for that, basically redating the Sphinx. I'm like, oh wow, you
know, that's fascinating. And thenit wasn't even a year later the movie
Stargate came out, so, youknow, putting those two together, so
I was fascinated by that as well. In the midst of you know,
I'm still fascinated and interested with theparanormal activity. I was stationed in Alaska
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at the time, and there arethings going on down in the in the
communication center, in our back officesand everything, so and many of us
were actually experiencing and seeing these differentthings. So you know, it was
like this this soup of different activity, different interests, and you know,
as I ended up becoming a paranormalinvestigator. And I've always been a writer.
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I've been doing that since I wasthe second grade, and so I'm
writing about these things, giving presentations, and people are sharing their experiences with
me. We're experiencing things on investigations. I'm talking with people at different events
and realizing there are a lot ofsimilarities between all of this different phenomena.
So let's let's try to connect thedifferent pieces what fits here. And you
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know what I find really interesting isso many people that find themselves in this
field start off as history enthusiasts.So many folks that understand and you can't
really appreciate what this whole phenomenon isif you don't love and enjoy history and
embrace history. So I get andone thing. You have a very common
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thread too, that you had experienceas a kid, right, And I
find that very very common me.My first experience was when I got in
law enforcement. Oddly enough, Ididn't have anything really significant that I can
recall happened as a kid. Butyou have a story very very similar to
most in that you had your firstexperiences when you were young, and your
mind probably wasn't as cluttered as itis, you know once we hit adulthood,
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right exactly. As well, there'sa lot of people in law enforcement
that get involved with investigating in research. You know, they see and experience
things while while out there on thejob. Well, and what's interesting is
early on and you see that alot of this with pilots, for example,
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in UFOs, you see an experiencestuff, you don't say anything.
Back when I started on the job, you didn't say anything. You just
kept it to you exactly because yourboss would send you for a fit for
duty eval. Nowadays it's changed andyou'll find many folks in law enforcement talking
about it. We were creating agroup right now, nothing but law enforcement
officers and military personnel that have experiencedthis. We're actually creating an organization along
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those lines right now because it's youknow, we are talking about it quite
a bit more. Yeah, whichis right, because you're right, you
know, back in the day whenokay, we're all experiencing something down here
in the in the comm center andlike I said, the back office area,
but you didn't want to bring itup the chain of command at all.
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You know, it got its highas maybe some you know couple of
master sergeants down there. You kindof whispered it amongst each other because you
were worried about your security cleans.You didn't want to find yourself down there
atal health and have your security clearanceall the way. And then yeah,
with pilots, it's the fight status. You don't want to absolutely well,
we got to take our first breaknow. But when we come back,
I want to talk a little bitmore about this and I want to get
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into a very interesting part of whatyou study. And that's time. So
folks, stay with us. Igot Mike Ricsecker with us. Stay with
us, and we'll be back afterthese messages. And we are back with
Mike. Guess Mike Ricseker. Whatan interesting beginning to this conversation and getting
back to our both our previous livesand service. It's just amazing how many
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of us have had things I maynever read a lot of experience of those
in the military. And there's onethere's a military base, I want to
say, it's up in northern Californiaor somewhere in the Northwest where they've had
a lot of interesting things happening onthe base and the military officers and enlisted
men are just now beginning to speakabout it. So I think that's an
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I would like to learn more aboutwhat some of our folks in our fields
have experienced and have never talked about. I'm sure the stories out there abound,
Oh yeah, absolutely, stories peoplehave sat on for decades, you
know, because of the stigma attachedwith you know, being an experiencer and
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having this phenomena for so long.If you talked about these sorts of things,
you were some sort of kook orquack long ago. You might even
find yourself in a straight jacket somewhereand they are away the key. So
you have people are very very carefulabout that sort of thing. And I
think the key and this is justme and my soapbox a little bit is
going to be to find a wayto collaborate with people and present evidence to
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show the other side. And that'skind of where I want to go with
you next, because one of themost fascinating things out there is the issue
of time and how that affects allof the phenomenon, whether it be cryptozoology,
go UFOs, time seems to bepart of it, Mike, right
to find what is time? Whatis time? In your opinion, well,
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time doesn't really exist, you know. Time is a human construct,
is a measuring tool that we developedto you know, to keep track of
things, keep some sort of orderto uh to know when to plant the
crops, keep track of the seasons, to know when to show up at
the bus stop or catch a flight, or when to show up at work
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at the right moment so your supervisordoesn't get upset with you. So it's
a it's a measuring tool to keeptrack of our reality. We came up
with this, but it doesn't reallyexist. It's not really there. It's
part of what we call the fourthdimension, which is what our consciousness is
where that resides. And what's fascinatingabout that is our consciousness is in the
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while it's in the fourth dimension,it resides in the three dimensional body.
So everything that we experience we caninteract with or all those dimensions that are
below us, you know, firstdimensions aligned. Second dimension is a playing
basically like a flat surface, youknow. Then we have third dimension that's
different objects four this time. Butour theoretical physics show us that there are
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up to eleven hyperspatial dimensions from zeroto ten. Zero's a point, by
the way, and that one's controversial, but theoretical physicals shows up to eleven
dimensions. So then you have toask yourself, okay, what's fifth,
sixth, seventh, and so forth. And if we are able to experience
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all those dimensions that are below us, then those dimensions that are above us
would be able to experience all ofour current dimension as well, which is
time. So they would see timeas an object, as something that is
whole and complete, that tells usall time is actually concurrent. It's all
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here right now. We are trappedwithin what we call the river of time.
And it's a nice analogy because there'sthis constant flow. We experience it
in a very very linear, lineartype fashion. But we're going to use
that analogy of water of a river. You know, time is the water,
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but what's controlling it really is thebanks. The banks are keeping the
water in to keep the flow goingin one direction. But if you were
to remove the banks that control piece, then all that water all time would
spill out and become a stagnant lake. It would all be there in one
location and you can move about itat will. Another way to look at
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it is take a small town thatyou might be driving through, and you
know, maybe it's a couple mileslong, you're driving through about thirty five
miles per hour. There's a coupleof houses, maybe a little store,
gas station, a church, thatsort of thing. It takes you about,
you know, five or ten minutesto drive through the thing. So
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that's a time relationship with the town. From another perspective, let's say you're
in an airplane flying over that sametown and you look out the window and
you see it all at once.The house is, the store, the
gas station, the church, theroad, all there, and what you
once had a time relationship with younow have a relationship with it in space,
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all their concurrence. I say,Now, this goes a lot back
to what Einstein talked about. Also, if I'm not mistaken, go ahead,
I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,Einstein, he had the idea of
what you called the block universe,that you know, everything is is concurrent
like this. And so when Istarted the research for this, it just,
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you know, honestly, Larry,it popped in my head about twenty
years ago. I'm doing some investigativework, I'm doing some research, and
it just kind of pops in myhead. What if you know, as
people are experiencing all this phenomenon,what if you know all time is concurrent.
What if it's all there happening atthe exact same moment, and we're
just not seeing it at the sametime because everything is frequency of resonance,
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energy vibration, and maybe these thingsare happening on different frequencies. And so
I went down that road, youknow, found the information about Einstein's block
universe. Like okay, okay,you know Einstein had a lot of similar
ideas and concepts on this when he'stalking about his space time continuum. Right.
I take a little bit further thanthat, though, is I have
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what I call stack time theory,and that you know, all time is
concurrence. So take where you're sittingright now. Every moment that has happened,
is happening, and will happen.Are all right there, right now,
right and each of those moments islike a photograph in this big stack
of photos. Two of those photosor two of those moments on occasion will
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resonate at the same frequency from them, because again, everything's frequency residence vibration
that resonates the same frequency for amoment and will bleed into each other.
And that's where we start seeing thingswe might think as a ghost or some
sort of haunting we might see,you know, like the the Victorian woman
in a while. But then sheturns and looks at us and reacts to
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us as if we're the ghosts.And so that's more of what we'd call
a time slip, I see.And when those dimensions sit next to each
other. The only the issue Ihave with that is the stories that we
have of grand my Ann coming backand saying, don't worry, I'm okay
in heaven, and we've got storiessimilar to that. Why would that fit
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with that? Those dimensions crossing intoeach other or fading into each other.
Yeah, again, you're talking aboutanother dimension wherever it is that we pass
on. To call it the homeworld, you want to call it heaven.
Whatever that is, it is eitheranother dimension, a sixth seventh days
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one of those, or it issomething even further beyond. You know,
we get into the idea of asimulated universe, Well, the dimensions would
be a part of that simulation.But the I think we lost you here
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for just a second, Mike,Hopefully you'll be back in just a quick
second. Interesting conversation along those lines. I had an interesting conversation with my
mother in law today about heaven.My father in law was a deacon in
Catholic Church and we were talking aboutheaven and we discussed oh there you are,
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there we go okay, have alittle blip over here. Okay,
so sorry. Anyway, when Iwas explained to the audience while we had
the little time slip there if youwill, was I had a conversation with
my mother in law today. Myfather in law, God rest the soul,
has leftist, but he was adeacon a Catholic church. So we
my mother in law and I havethese philosophical discussions, and she got talking
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about purgatory today. I'm Baptist bybackground, and we got talking about purgatory
and how that is a place whereyou the soul goes against cleansed before going
on to heaven. At least that'swhat the theory is. But my question
to her was could that just bea dimension? Is having a dimension isative
for a dimension that we passed through? And is that where the stories come
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from because of people that have experiencedthat crossing of dimensions? Yeah? Absolutely,
Yeah, it could certainly be anotherdimension. And you know what's what's
fascinating about this. I mentioned simulateduniverse a moment ago, and you know,
so many of our ancient religions talkabout this. They just don't use
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the word simulation, but they talkabout it. If you, you know,
go down the route of reincarnation.We come from someplace, we come
down here, we live out oflife, learn some lessons, pass away,
go back up, and then werecycle back through it again again,
like we're logging in and out ofyou some sort of program like you mentioned,
you know, moving through purgatory,moving to uh, you know,
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having so you know, you're herepreparing for another world. These other worlds
beyond so so they could be otherdimensions, they could be other universes,
you'll, something that's even further beyondthis sort of thing, you know,
and those those locations are outside thescope of time. There, they are
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above our dimension, so they canmove in and about at will. So
when we have a visitation from aloved one like that, time is time
is nothing to them. You know, they've already passed into that, you
know, to that other dimension.They've left this one, even if they
we talk like ghosts and things likethat. Okay, that is the consciousness,
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that's the soul outside the body.So again we're you know, our
consciousness is in the fourth dimension.The body is the third so it loses
the third dimensional shell. The consciousnessis still here on Earth roaming around for
whatever reason, Like my grandfather stuckaround for a while until my grandmother passed
away, and then they went on. They some people might even call a
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dissension. They've ascended into another realm, another dimension, and that sort of
thing, but they have the optionto come back down into this dimension and
interact. So getting back to yourstacked theory where you've got the photographs,
I actually like that analogy. Thestack photographs and sometimes the photographs smelt,
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But do the photographs have that consciousness? So yeah, so I wouldn't say
that the photo like the photographs,like the moments themselves have a conscious although
some people would argue that Earth hasa consciousness. So that's a whole different
that's a whole other that's a wholeother can of worms. But so they
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each have a the moments have energy. They all have a basically frequency that
they are, that they were attunedto, and sometimes those frequencies will basically
tune into each other and you'll geta glimpse of that. Sometimes you might
get you might actually tune into yourselfat another lay and we have the doppelganger
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incidence, and they're not about that. Yeah, about that a few minutes.
But what I what I want toget at here is we're talking and
we're just already take our next break. But I want to give this that
you chew on this a little bitwhile we want to take our next break.
You have the photographs that may meldand may we may see another moment
in time coming through. But thenwe've got that consciousness coming through saying hey
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it's Aunt Katie. I'm back.I just wanted you know, I'm okay.
How I'm not sure I understand thedifference between that energy and those photographs
melting if you want to use thatanalogy. Yeah, so Aunt Katie,
who's already passed away before we getBefore we get into that, we got
to take a break here, Sochew on that a little bit. When
we come back, I'll have youanswer that question. Folks, stay with
us, Mark Grexucker, interesting conversation, don't go anywhere. So we're back
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with my guest Mike Recsucker, andwe're talking about time. Now. I
cut you off before you get achance to answer that question, but I
gave you a couple of seconds tothink about it. What do you what's
Yeah, So in that situation,Katie, who's already passed on, is
is outside of time? So takelike, okay, us right now,
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I have a desk in front ofme and say, you know, all
those photographs were stacked up in frontof me right now, and I'm aunt
Katie. I could pick and choosewhere on that stack I would want to
go. So if I want togo see you know, Mike in twenty
twenty three, well that's this photoin this stack and I access that.
So the conscious we'll just use theterm consciousness for definition here, has the
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opportunity to pick and choose when they'rewhat dimension they go back to visit or
where they go back to visit?Correct? Yeah, okay, all right.
We mentioned a word that I've I'vefound interesting and I first heard it.
Oh god, it was an oldTV show. I I first heard
the term doppelganger. It might evenhave been star Trek now that I think
about it, way back when.But that whole concept of a oppel ganger
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or seeing oneself again has fascinating.It has always been fascinating to me.
Is that actually a rift in time? You mentioned it briefly, but I'd
like you to kind of talk aboutthat some more. Yeah, I think
more of what we're experiencing here aretime slips that we are actually experiencing ourselves
at another moment in time. Theword doppelganger is a German word means double
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walker. And you know, becausepeople were experiencing seeing themselves are seen.
You know, a person walk intoa room one moment and then a minute
later that they go again the exactsame the exact same thing happening. The
Norse tradition called those vartigers, butyou know, the more common name is,
you know, the German doppelganger.And over time, as people didn't
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understand the phenomenon, uh, therewas legend in lore and things like that
place on top of it. Soit became like this whole evil twin sort
of thing. But when you actuallylook at the stories now give a couple
of examples, it seems to bemore of a time slip. So one
of the more famous stories, youdo a Google search on doppelganger, you
will find the story of the famouspoet Gutta, and he recounted this in
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his book Dick Tongue and Vite orin English poetry and truth. And he
was on a road one day walkingtoward Justin I, which is you know,
town in Germany. He's having anaffair with a young woman there and
he's lost in his thoughts as he'swalking down the road, and all of
a sudden he notices on the otherside of the road, walking the opposite
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direction was this man in a goldtrim gray suit. And so as he
turned to get a better look atthe guy because he thought the suit was
interesting, the man just disappeared intothin air. In the world was that.
There's nothing to be done for theguy completely disappeared. So Gutsa continues
on his way but notes it inthe back of his mind. But a
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couple of years later he's kind offorgotten about the incident. He's been up
to other things. And now thistime he's walking from Dressenheim headed in down
the same road in the opposite direction. He gets around that spot and it
hits him. He looks down athimself, Oh my gosh, I'm the
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guy in the gold trimmed gray suit. I'm actually wearing it right now.
So that yeah, it's a doppelganger incident because it's himself twice at the
same spot, and he saw himself. But to me, it's a time
slip. And because he saw himself, you know, a couple of years
later is what it was. AndI think what happened here we're talking frequency,
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energy, vibration, that sort ofthing. He had been in kind
of a partial meditative state, beinglost in his thoughts or today we call
it zoning out right and we doit all the time, which is not
a good thing when we're like drivingdown the road and you know, he
lost in our thoughts of his ownout a bit, and we miss our
turn, and we miss our exit. Doctor gotta go back and you know,
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get that exit. It's a typeof meditative state. And I believe
what happened is he had gotten tothat little bit of a meditative state there,
and when he entered that area,he was able to tune into his
own frequency there at another moment intime, and he caught a glimpse of
it. And as he noticed thisindividual over there, which had eventually figured
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out to be himself, and turnedto get a better look, he broke
that meditative state and then lost theimage of himself. And that meditative state
he literally traveled between dimensions for lackof a better world and saw himself.
Yeah, it ended up being likethis bleedover of two different moments in time.
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Yeah. One of my favorite storieson time slips was and the names
now escaped me. But it wastwo young ladies that were in France and
they went to the uh not theloop, the guard verse, I thank
you very much. Yeah, andthat's probably one of my favorite stories.
But that isn't so much them seeingthemselves as much as it is traveling to
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a different dimension. But from whatyou're describing, it's basically the same theory.
It's very similar. Yeah, Soinstead of tuning into their own energy
and their own frequency, they basicallyhad tuned into a moment out of It
was around the time of the FrenchRevolution. Now these were uh two highly
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educated uh school mistresses. They wereeach running uh universities at the time,
which was really unheard of, youknow back then at that time. These
were two you know, pioneers intheir field for women. And you know,
uh the one it was Eleanor Jordainand Andy Moberley and and forget which
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is which, but the one itinvited the other to France because they were
going basically, we team up torun the one particular school, and so
they're getting to know each other andwent to Versailles just, you know,
as an afternoon, let's go downthere. The one had a flat in
Paris and they decided to go downto Versailles, and so it was just
an afternoon stroll in the gardens there, and they saw this whole scene play
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out before them, where again itlooked like something out of the French Revolution.
And I had a guest on afew weeks ago that experienced something similar
in the little town of Stuart,Florida, where herself and another friend walked
out of a restaurant and they werein another time and it stayed like that
for a few minutes and then itsnapped back. It's easy to say they're
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crazy. It's easy to say that, yeah, but it keeps happening,
it does. You know. Oneof my favorite stories is from the house
that were we call the Conjuring Housenow the Farmhouse in Harrisvill, Rhode Island,
where that was the first Conjura moviewas based off of. Now what
happened there during the Parent The Hauntingof the Parents was ten years time,
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and you know, so it's very, very different than the movies. And
I'm very good friends with the family. But you know, Andrea and Carolyn
will say all the things that happenedthere at the house, you know,
all the crazy things. The thingthat was the most fascinating was one evening.
It was just after the sants thathad gone bad with the Warrens,
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and Andrea was up doing some homeworkand Carolyn had woken up. She hadn't
eaten dinner that night. She asked, Andrea, can you reheat some of
that stew and put on a shortpot of coffee. So Andrews like,
okay, yeah, I'll go takecare of that. Carolyn sitting in the
parlor area looking out into the diningroom, which is the area where the
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sants had gone bad, and allof a sudden she sees morph into existence.
There in that room is a family. Like out of the seventeen hundreds,
you have a woman cooking over anopen hearth, which at that time
in the seventies that that fireplace hadbeen boarded up for like one hundred years.
But there it is, all ofa sudden, raging fire as a
woman cooking over a couple of kidsrunning around and two gentlemen sitting at a
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table there with pewter Stein's and theyturn and they look at Carolyn and they
see her sitting there. Because onenudges the other says, hey, would
you look at that points over thereat Carolyn as if she was the ghost,
and then the moment kind of subsidedthere. But Yeah, of all
the crazy things that happened at thehouse, like, that's the most significant
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because you had the future looking atthe past and the past looking at the
future, and that does beg aninteresting conversation on time travel itself. Do
you think we're ever going to beable to create a tool, a mechanism
that will allow this free travel betweenYeah, so, given all of these
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different types of accounts, I thinkreal time travel is going to have more
to do with the consciousness, withthe mind than something like a DeLorean and
a flux capacitor. I don't necessarilybelieve it's going to be a machine that
will do it. I think ifwe can, you know, going with
this idea that we are essentially tuninginto these different moments, were tuning into
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these different frequencies out of ourselves tosee another moment, I think if we
can learn to control that, thenwe will be able to stay within that
moment for longer periods of time.And I harken back to the movie Somewhere
in Time starring Christopher Reeve and JaneSeymour said, I think the writer Richard
Matheson was was really onto something there. And for his research with the it
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was originally a novel and then developedinto the movie, he actually, you
know, consulted significant books on time, on the theories of time and how
time works and the idea of timetravel and all that incorporated that into a
story. So you know, ChristopherReeve's character, Richard, essentially wills his
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consciousness from nineteen eighty back to nineteentwelve. He basically tricks himself into believing
the subliminal messages, dressing up inthe garb of the era, you know,
getting all the modern amenities out ofhis room, and wills himself back
to that year and he ends upin the same room that he had come
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from just in nineteen twelve, insead of nineteen eighty and he did it
all with the mind. And Ithink it's like I said, I think
Mattheson was really onto something there.It'd be more like that thanking, And
I think the mind is where it'sall at. And I think you've really
hits on something here, because wereally don't understand the power of our own
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brain. I talk about this alot. People say that we only use
twenty percent of our brain. Thetruth is we use one hundred percent.
We only knew no what twenty percentof it does. So what will the
inner portions, the inner walls ofour mind tell us that we're able to
do. I mean, look atthings like Eerie Geller. I mean kind
of getting off on a different subjecthere, but look what Euri Geller could
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do with his mind bending spoons.Look what remote viewers can do. So
there's so many there's so many thingsin our with our brain that we don't
understand yet. And I think you'vereally hit on something there. When we
can somehow learn how to harness that, that might be the entire key.
Are you familiar with the Philip experimentout of Toronto back in then, I
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can't say that, I am.It was an interesting and we're getting closer
our next break here. It wasan interesting experiment done in Toronto. I
want to say seventy one seventy twoA group, not unlike mine, decided
to do an experiment. They createda guy named Philip. They gave him
a dosse, wife, kids,whatever, uh, and they built him
on paper and then they did aclosed investigation stance, if you will.
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They taped it, they filmed it, rather, and they audio taped it,
and they actually got data saying thatPhilip was there. But the problem
was Philip was their creation. Okay, so that's going down the line of
like the idea of the Buddhist thoughtform of what we would call a tupa
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where you've actually, you know,created a sentient being from your own thoughts.
Yeah. That's yeah, fascinating stuff. But nonetheless it goes to the
discussion of how powerful our brain isand what we can do with it.
And with that, I got totake another break, but we'll be back
at just a few minutes, folks, interesting conversation. I hope you'll come
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on back and hear the rest ofthis because we've got a whole nother section
to talk chat about. So beright back in a minute, and we're
back with this really interesting conversation withMike Rexseker. But before we get going,
I want to remind everybody to takea look at what we're doing at
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great programming here on the X ZoneRadio and TV broadcast network www dot XZBN
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out directly at Paranormal steakout dot org. Mikes find you. How do folks
find out about you? Yeah,you can find me Mike Ricksecker dot com.
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I'm all over social media, soyou know, Facebook, Instagram,
techtok all those sorts of things.Also connect to Universe Portal dot com,
which is my online learning platform anda wonderful community of people that we have
out there that are, you know, basically going down this rabbit hole of
research. Rabbit hole sounds familiar.And I think I heard of a show
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named yeah, Edge of the rabbitHole. That's uh, that's one of
my podcasts. Yeah yeah, Socheck check them out, folks. Interesting
stuff. And we're not going tocover everything. I don't want to cover,
I can tell you that right now, but I want to I want
to get back to this time thingbecause I just I just find that the
power of the brain and how you'vedescribed the use of the ability of the
brain with this uh uh stack timetheory is it's just really fascinating to me.
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But do people do you find thatthere are people out there that travel
through this the stack of photographs whichI'm going to use as a regular description
now go through the stack of photographsat will. I think I think there
have been people that have figured thatout. Maybe it's you know, people
from the future that I figured out. I think our ancients knew how to
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do this, you know, longago, way back in the day,
and that's you know, one ofthe functions of the stone circles or you
know, even the pyramids and thesesorts of things in ancient Egypt. I
have a whole Stargates of Ancient Egypttour where we go to these locations that
are designated as actual stargate locations therein Egypt. And the question is,
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Okay, where did they go?Did they go to some other place in
the cosmos, did they go toanother place on Earth? Did they go
to another point in time? Allthese options are there in the table.
So just stargate tour. Is thisa physical tour you take or do you
do it all loan? Yeah,this is a physical tour. We go
to Egypt. We're going April sixteenthto the twenty eighth in twenty twenty four.
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That's our it's an annual tour thatwe do, and we it's twelve
days. We hit so many ofthe different temples. Of course the pyramids
we have two hours just our smallgroup to ourselves in the Great Pyramid of
Giza. The whole thing's opened upto us, which is wonderful. So
yeah, there's a lot of fourday now cruise wo it's a great,
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great time. Yeah, okay,I have to check that out myself.
How does this How does this connectwith the Mandela effect? That's something that's
been very popular and discussed about alot in recent times. How does this
connect with that the Mandela effect?And What is the Mandela effect for those
that don't know. Yeah, theMandela effect is this idea that essentially something's
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been changed in the timeline, thatthere are large amounts of people that remember
something from the past, all ofthem remembering it identically, but yet when
you actually look into the past,then it's no, that's not the way
it was. And this came aboutwe call it the Mandela effect because when
Nanson Nelson Mandela passed away in twentythirteen, there were a ton of people
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that had this memory of him passingaway when he was incarcerated back in the
eighties. And so Fiona Brum isthe one that coined this term and did
some research on this. And there'sa lot of these different things around where
a lot of it is branding centric, So like the Barristain bears, Cornucopia
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and fruit of the Loom fruit loopswas you know, had a different spelling,
Oscar Mayer, all these different things. Now, I do believe that
you know, many of these thingsare related to something. Yeah, something
was changed in the timeline. Nowthat doesn't mean somebody from like twenty two
eighty five is going back in timeto change the spelling of fruit loops.
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It's too trivial to do that.I think they're going back and you know,
they might just be to watch andobserve, or maybe they're gathering some
sort of resource. The resource andthere are repercussions of ripple effect like the
or the butterfly effect that's happening.You know, some unbeknownst to them,
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repercussion happens because the one little thingthat they did over here, they maybe
they crossed the street and you know, the car was turning had to slow
down, and that just you know, had this cascading effect over so many
other things you just don't know.So I think it's the result of time
travel activity and just these repercussions thatwe didn't know were going to happen.
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So time travel is occurring now.That's kind of what I'm hearing from you.
That's that that's interesting because you hearso you hear so much, specially
on the internet, and everything onthe internet is truthful. Well, yeah,
of course, Well I think it'sbecause we have this preconception of what
time travel is supposed to look like. You know, you go back to
H. G. Wells and thetime machine, you could go to you
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of course, you know flu youknow, fux capacitor and a delore and
you we always think it has tobe like, you know, this machine
it's using you know, gigawatts ofenergy and you know, and our our
physicists will say, well, youknow, it's possible if you had the
right amount of energy, if youharnessed all the energy of the sun.
Well yeah, if you harness allthe energy of the Sun on the planet
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Earth, you're going to destroy theplane it. Or they'll say, well,
you know, you could you know, slingshot yourself around a black hole
and you know, around the blackhole space and time works, you know
differently, it bends time, andit's like, yeah, we're not getting
to a black hole anytime soon.So they put these ideas out there that
are we just can't physically make happenright now at all. Uh So you
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know, it's given us this,you know, this idea that time travel
can't happen at all. And what'sfascinating is, Okay, so a lot
of our scribes, a lot ofour writers, and they come up with
these different paradoxes and they play outwonderfully in different science fiction stories and thrillers
and mind bending type stories. Uh, you know, many of them use
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like the Grandfather paradox, which wesaw in Back to the Future. You
know, you go back in time, you do something to disrupt your own
birth, and you know you'll disappear, and you know that academia will say,
well, that's you know, that'sjust a storytelling device. Yet in
the nineteen eighties there was a propositionwas the Novakov consistency principle, and with
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this basically stated that time travel couldphysically be possible, but you couldn't change
anything because the math wouldn't come outto zero. It would change the remainder
in the equation and that just wouldn'tjibe. So you could go back in
time, but you can't change anything. So two physicists, Kip Thorne and
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Joe Polchinsky are having this discussion,and so Polchinsky throws out this idea to
Kip Thluner is like, well,if you take a billiard ball and you
use the Einstein rosenbridge a wormhole.We can talk about Einstein rosenbridge and a
wormhole, because this is something thatwe already have established in our theoretical physics.
So if we take this billiard balland we shoot it through this Einstein
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Rosen bridge, and we set upthe bridge so that the exit of it
is just before the billiard ball goesinto the wormhole, and it knocks the
billiard ball off course. You know, then then you've changed time. And
they call this the Kulchinsky paradox.The thing is, though, if you
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look at that, how is thatdifferent than the grandfather paradox. You've gone
back in time and changed this outcomefrom occurring. Instead of you know,
killing your grandfather and preventing your birth, you are, you know, knocking
the billiard ball off course to preventit from going into the wormhole to begin
with. It's the same thing.But oh we can talk about it because
you know we're physicists and we're usingthe bridge. Sure. Yeah, finally,
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so how that is actually? Watcha show called uh, I don't
know if I could mentioned, butI'm going to Bodies. It's on one
of the streaming channels. Take alook at that. You'll I'm not familiar
with it, but I'll take watch. It's a it's a mini series.
But anyway, how does this howdoes this attach to ets? Now?
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This is one thing that's actually happeningquite a bit in the paranormal field.
Now, uh, you're finding folksconnecting, bigfoot, ghosts, UFOs,
and aliens all together into this thistime dimensional issue. What do you do
You theorize that ets or aliens areconnected here? Yeah, I mean it's
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all connected. They're all everything inthe universe is connected, which is why
I am my whole connected universe platform. That doesn't mean they all come from
the exact same place, but justby the very nature that we're all within
the universe, and the universe ishis whole. You know, we're all
connecting. And you look even lookphysically at the Chandra X ray imagery of
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the universe and you find, youknow, these galaxies, you know,
all connected to each other through youknow, gaseous filament is a wonderful uh
X ray photo. U. Butyeah, so okay we're talking ets.
This are a whole week. Couldgo down for a while. We don't
have a few minutes left. Butyeah, but okay, ets, some
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of them, I'll say that someof them, Yes, our physical beings
that have come here some sort ofcraft from a another place in the cosmos.
Maybe they're using a wormhole or somethinglike that to travel here to explain
you know, the space flight orwhatever. You know. Well, we
would have to dive into that abit more. But some of them are
physical. Some of them are interdimensionalbeings that have come here from uh some
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maybe fifth, sixth, seventh andwhat have you. Sure that happens.
We see accounts of that in ourhistory. Not talking ets, but other
beings that are very very eerily similarin nature with the whole abduction scenario and
all that. But you know,maybe they're a ferry or you know,
some other being you know that ourancestors talked about. Now we're talking about
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them as ets. Some of themcould also be time travelers as well,
from some other point in time thathave that have shown up here. And
I've seen some people say, well, you know all this ET and UAP
stuff, you know they're they're notextra trestoral. They're just us from another
point in time. Well, maybemaybe some of them are. But I'll
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say this, just because they aretime traveler doesn't necessarily mean that they are
human. Millions of years from now, there could be another intelligent life form
that springs up on this Earth thatdevelops civilization and time travel and all that,
or could even be an extraterrestrial fromanother place in the cosmos that has
established something here in Earth millions ofyears from now and also has developed time
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travel capability and they show up,and so then it would be, yeah,
an extraterrestrial that is native here toEarth, but it is still time
traveling. So there's a lot ofdifferent ways that we can look on this.
And I'll throw something outside to you. Another thing I like to bring
up quite frankly, and in ourlast minute we're not going to be able
to get into. But the collectiveconscious theory because everything is connected, is
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that because everything's connected, well that'sbasically I call it eternal Knowledgey Young had
the collective unconscious people talk about theAkashak records. Again, I think they're
all related. I think we mayalmost all be talking about the same thing
here. But it is knowledge thatis out there eternally for us to be
able to tap into. Yeah.Yeah, And like you said, with
this as a rabbit hole, wecould go down and we're going to maybe
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have to do this again to furtherexamine this. A very interesting show,
and I do appreciate you being withus tonight. Mike. Thank you so
much, and stay safe and folks, We've come to the end of our
show tonight, so I want tothank all of you for joining us tonight.
Please check us out on the EXORadio and TV broadcast network, and
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Good evening everyone, and welcome backto Paranormal Steakout. I'm your host,
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the beginning of each show. Sohope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving and they're
getting all tuned up for the Christmasholidays coming. It's a lot really cold
up in the north end of thiscountry right now. We've had a little
cold snap here. I think wehad a well, we hit the eighties
today, but it's been in theseventies and sixties here recently. I know
my friends up north are gonna shootme for that comment, but let's get
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into tonight's show. I got agreat guest tonight. I've got researcher,
investigator, author, podcast host,producer, and director Mike Ricksecker. Mike
has over thirty years of researching unexplainedparanormal phenomenon across the globe. He is
a native of Cleveland, Ohio,Buckeye like myself, and a veteran serving
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our country in the United States AirForce. He's also been on a number
of number of television shows. He'sbeen on Discovery Channel, History Channel,
Travel Channel, Animal Planet, andguy A TV. So a breadth of
experience and information here. I'd liketo welcome Mike Ricksecker to the show.
Mike, thanks for joining us tonight. Hi, Larry, thanks so much
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for having me tonight. I reallyappreciate it. I'm very excited to have
you on. We've got a lotto talk about, but I like my
audience to kind of get to knowwho you are a little bit. Can
you kind of share with us.How you began your journey to paranormal research.
Yeah. Absolutely. Like a lotof people, I was an experiencer
and that's really where my curiosity began. It goes all the way back to
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when I was a child, abouteight years old, and I first really
significant paranormal experience was with what wewould call a shadow person, but I
had no idea about that at thetime. I'd woken up in the middle
of the night and there's this tall, dark figure standing in the corner of
my bedroom and you know, Ididn't know anything about you know, shadow
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entities or anything like that at thetime. I thought there was an intruder
in the house, and you know, they've broken in to rob the place,
maybe kill me. You know,that's where my mind goes at eight
years old, and you know,fortunately I'm still alive to tell the tale,
which is great. But it diddo something very unusual. So I'm
you know, I see the thing. I'm trying to scream because I'm scared,
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but I'm so frightened that just mymouth opens up and nothing comes out.
Too terrified, it approached my bed, leaned over and I'm staring into
this blank black face. There's nothingthere, no eyes, no nose,
no mouth, nothing, And againstill trying to scream, but nothing comes
out. He ends up grabbing meby the wrists, crosses my arms across
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my body, and then runs offdown the hall. And a moment later
I found my voice, found mylegs, run off, screaming in my
parents' bedroom, and you know,they're trying to console me, call me
down, trying to tell me thatjust had a bad dream. But I
knew I hadn't had a bad dream. I had been awake for this whole
thing. Now, I would nevercall that a haunted house. This was
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just a one off incident in thatparticular house. A couple other little things
that I had seen, you know, maybe before that, but it's hard
to know because I was so young. But about you know, five years
later, we had moved to anotherhouse. We had been originally from Ohio,
but we when I was three,we had moved to Massachusett's been ten
years there, moved back to Ohioand that particular house had a bit more
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going on with it where you unpackingboxes, putting things away in my new
bedroom and kept seeing this figure inmy doorway. I'd turn and look off
it would go and this kept happening. You know, I'd be unpacking boxes,
putting things away, and to seethe figure turn and look and it
would just run off toward my parents'bedroom. What's going on. This happened
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several times over the course of thefirst few days that we were there.
So I decided to ask my momabout it, and she admitted that she
had also seen this thing, whichwas great for me. It was an
affirmation that it wasn't crazy, andshe said it in such a way that
she didn't seem very concerned about it. So this, okay, Mom's not
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alarmed. Mom's not scared about it. She's just kind of like, yeah,
it's there. So I didn't becomescared about it either. Actually,
I playful with the thing and startedcalling him Tom, like peeping Tom.
So the only time we show openedmy doorway, I say hi Tom,
and coffee go running down the hallwaysomewhere. And that activity subsided after a
few months, and so I justchalked it up to something that was there
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curious about the new family, andit just went about its business after that.
So those were my first really significantexperiences. The following year, when
I was a freshman in high school. It was my first little paranormal investigation.
And again I had no idea youknow what that was. You know,
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we're talking. You know, itwas nineteen eighty nine and where there
weren't the ghost shows. You didn'tknow about go sell investigating. That sort
of things was before all of that. I mean, it existed and people
did it, but it wasn't youknow, very wide known. You had
Honseholzer, who did I did recentHonsholser. You know, you had the
Warrens, and then there were somesmall teams kind of scattered about. But
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yeah, my friend David and Iwere at our friend Laurie's house just shooting
the breeze, you know, talkingteen drama and all that sort of stuff.
And she lived in an older historichouse in the downtown area of Worcester,
Ohio, where we lived, andall of a sudden, she says,
I think my house is on it. Oh, okay, this is
this is interesting, this is cool. To tell us some stories. So
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she starts telling some stories about thehouse. There's like an old family cemetery
back behind the house and things thatgo on. But then her her most
concerning thing was in her bedroom.She had this one wall that she couldn't
tack up anything on that. Youknow, we're talking like posters and you
know, things that a teen girlwould put on our wall. And so
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you know, if she put itup there, about a day, a
week, maybe even hour later,the thing would alway whatever it was,
So okay, we're gonna go checkit out. We're gonna investigate. Go
up there, and we're taking alook at the room, taking a look
at the wall. Laurie keeps tellingus some more stories, and my friend
David, he put his hand flatto the wall like that, and all
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of a sudden, he started sweatingprofusely and he turned this bright, bright
red. And I'm looking at David, like, oh my gosh, what
in the world is going on.I've never seen anything like this before.
So he starts going like wall towall in the house trying to find the
kind of quote unquote hot spots.And that was the moment that I knew,
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and I didn't know what it was, but I knew that somehow,
some way, shape or form,I was going to be involved in this
sort of phenomena for the rest ofmy life. And that's where I started,
like, you know, whatever bookthat I could get my hold,
my my hands a hold of whichyou know, we were in a small
town, so it wasn't too much. But you unfortunately, once kind of
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the uh, the internet came along, you kind of with people and that
sort of thing. That's that's kindof really when it started to flourish.
So obviously you got connected with thespirits, ghosts if you will, Well,
what's your focus these days and howdid you get there? Did you
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decide to expand your horizons that justdecide to find out what other experiences were
out there? Yeah, you know, over the years, it just kind
of, you know, noticed inrealizing all this different phenomena that we're talking
about, whether it's ghosts and spirits, ufo activity, cryptids, interdimensional beings,
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they're all connected. They're all interrelatedto each other. I always had
a fascination with you know, Ido a lot of stuff on ancient history,
lost civilizations, that sort of thingas well, and I'd always had
a fascination with that as a kid, with all the history you grew up
in the school system in Massachusetts andhistory is a big thing, American Revolution
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and all of that. And thenI was fortunate enough in high school where
I had a couple of really goodhistory teachers for world history and US story
that were very, very good storytellers. So I was always fascinated in that.
And then early nineties, nineteen ninetythree, the Mysteries of the Sphinx
documentary comes out with Robert Shock andJohn Anthony West Charleston Heston was the host
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for that, basically redating the Sphinx. I'm like, oh wow, you
know, that's fascinating. And thenit wasn't even a year later the movie
Stargate came out, so, youknow, putting those two together, so
I was fascinated by that as well. In the midst of you know,
I'm still fascinated and interested with theparanormal activity. I was stationed in Alaska
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at the time, and there arethings going on down in the in the
communication center, in our back officesand everything, so and many of us
were actually experiencing and seeing these differentthings. So you know, it was
like this this soup of different activity, different interests, and you know,
as I ended up becoming a paranormalinvestigator. And I've always been a writer.
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I've been doing that since I wasthe second grade, and so I'm
writing about these things, giving presentations, and people are sharing their experiences with
me. We're experiencing things on investigations. I'm talking with people at different events
and realizing there are a lot ofsimilarities between all of this different phenomena.
So let's let's try to connect thedifferent pieces what fits here. And you
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know what I find really interesting isso many people that find themselves in this
field start off as history enthusiasts.So many folks that understand and you can't
really appreciate what this whole phenomenon isif you don't love and enjoy history and
embrace history. So I get andone thing. You have a very common
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thread too, that you had experienceas a kid, right, And I
find that very very common me.My first experience was when I got in
law enforcement. Oddly enough, Ididn't have anything really significant that I can
recall happened as a kid. Butyou have a story very very similar to
most in that you had your firstexperiences when you were young, and your
mind probably wasn't as cluttered as itis, you know once we hit adulthood,
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right exactly. As well, there'sa lot of people in law enforcement
that get involved with investigating in research. You know, they see and experience
things while while out there on thejob. Well, and what's interesting is
early on and you see that alot of this with pilots, for example,
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in UFOs, you see an experiencestuff, you don't say anything.
Back when I started on the job, you didn't say anything. You just
kept it to you exactly because yourboss would send you for a fit for
duty eval. Nowadays it's changed andyou'll find many folks in law enforcement talking
about it. We were creating agroup right now, nothing but law enforcement
officers and military personnel that have experiencedthis. We're actually creating an organization along
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those lines right now because it's youknow, we are talking about it quite
a bit more. Yeah, whichis right, because you're right, you
know, back in the day whenokay, we're all experiencing something down here
in the in the comm center andlike I said, the back office area,
but you didn't want to bring itup the chain of command at all.
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You know, it got its highas maybe some you know couple of
master sergeants down there. You kindof whispered it amongst each other because you
were worried about your security cleans.You didn't want to find yourself down there
atal health and have your security clearanceall the way. And then yeah,
with pilots, it's the fight status. You don't want to absolutely well,
we got to take our first breaknow. But when we come back,
I want to talk a little bitmore about this and I want to get
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into a very interesting part of whatyou study. And that's time. So
folks, stay with us. Igot Mike Ricsecker with us. Stay with
us, and we'll be back afterthese messages. And we are back with
Mike. Guess Mike Ricseker. Whatan interesting beginning to this conversation and getting
back to our both our previous livesand service. It's just amazing how many
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of us have had things I maynever read a lot of experience of those
in the military. And there's onethere's a military base, I want to
say, it's up in northern Californiaor somewhere in the Northwest where they've had
a lot of interesting things happening onthe base and the military officers and enlisted
men are just now beginning to speakabout it. So I think that's an
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I would like to learn more aboutwhat some of our folks in our fields
have experienced and have never talked about. I'm sure the stories out there abound,
Oh yeah, absolutely, stories peoplehave sat on for decades, you
know, because of the stigma attachedwith you know, being an experiencer and
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having this phenomena for so long.If you talked about these sorts of things,
you were some sort of kook orquack long ago. You might even
find yourself in a straight jacket somewhereand they are away the key. So
you have people are very very carefulabout that sort of thing. And I
think the key and this is justme and my soapbox a little bit is
going to be to find a wayto collaborate with people and present evidence to
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show the other side. And that'skind of where I want to go with
you next, because one of themost fascinating things out there is the issue
of time and how that affects allof the phenomenon, whether it be cryptozoology,
go UFOs, time seems to bepart of it, Mike, right
to find what is time? Whatis time? In your opinion, well,
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time doesn't really exist, you know. Time is a human construct,
is a measuring tool that we developedto you know, to keep track of
things, keep some sort of orderto uh to know when to plant the
crops, keep track of the seasons, to know when to show up at
the bus stop or catch a flight, or when to show up at work
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at the right moment so your supervisordoesn't get upset with you. So it's
a it's a measuring tool to keeptrack of our reality. We came up
with this, but it doesn't reallyexist. It's not really there. It's
part of what we call the fourthdimension, which is what our consciousness is
where that resides. And what's fascinatingabout that is our consciousness is in the
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while it's in the fourth dimension,it resides in the three dimensional body.
So everything that we experience we caninteract with or all those dimensions that are
below us, you know, firstdimensions aligned. Second dimension is a playing
basically like a flat surface, youknow. Then we have third dimension that's
different objects four this time. Butour theoretical physics show us that there are
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up to eleven hyperspatial dimensions from zeroto ten. Zero's a point, by
the way, and that one's controversial, but theoretical physicals shows up to eleven
dimensions. So then you have toask yourself, okay, what's fifth,
sixth, seventh, and so forth. And if we are able to experience
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all those dimensions that are below us, then those dimensions that are above us
would be able to experience all ofour current dimension as well, which is
time. So they would see timeas an object, as something that is
whole and complete, that tells usall time is actually concurrent. It's all
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here right now. We are trappedwithin what we call the river of time.
And it's a nice analogy because there'sthis constant flow. We experience it
in a very very linear, lineartype fashion. But we're going to use
that analogy of water of a river. You know, time is the water,
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but what's controlling it really is thebanks. The banks are keeping the
water in to keep the flow goingin one direction. But if you were
to remove the banks that control piece, then all that water all time would
spill out and become a stagnant lake. It would all be there in one
location and you can move about itat will. Another way to look at
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it is take a small town thatyou might be driving through, and you
know, maybe it's a couple mileslong, you're driving through about thirty five
miles per hour. There's a coupleof houses, maybe a little store,
gas station, a church, thatsort of thing. It takes you about,
you know, five or ten minutesto drive through the thing. So
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that's a time relationship with the town. From another perspective, let's say you're
in an airplane flying over that sametown and you look out the window and
you see it all at once.The house is, the store, the
gas station, the church, theroad, all there, and what you
once had a time relationship with younow have a relationship with it in space,
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all their concurrence. I say,Now, this goes a lot back
to what Einstein talked about. Also, if I'm not mistaken, go ahead,
I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,Einstein, he had the idea of
what you called the block universe,that you know, everything is is concurrent
like this. And so when Istarted the research for this, it just,
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you know, honestly, Larry,it popped in my head about twenty
years ago. I'm doing some investigativework, I'm doing some research, and
it just kind of pops in myhead. What if you know, as
people are experiencing all this phenomenon,what if you know all time is concurrent.
What if it's all there happening atthe exact same moment, and we're
just not seeing it at the sametime because everything is frequency of resonance,
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energy vibration, and maybe these thingsare happening on different frequencies. And so
I went down that road, youknow, found the information about Einstein's block
universe. Like okay, okay,you know Einstein had a lot of similar
ideas and concepts on this when he'stalking about his space time continuum. Right.
I take a little bit further thanthat, though, is I have
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what I call stack time theory,and that you know, all time is
concurrence. So take where you're sittingright now. Every moment that has happened,
is happening, and will happen.Are all right there, right now,
right and each of those moments islike a photograph in this big stack
of photos. Two of those photosor two of those moments on occasion will
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resonate at the same frequency from them, because again, everything's frequency residence vibration
that resonates the same frequency for amoment and will bleed into each other.
And that's where we start seeing thingswe might think as a ghost or some
sort of haunting we might see,you know, like the the Victorian woman
in a while. But then sheturns and looks at us and reacts to
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us as if we're the ghosts.And so that's more of what we'd call
a time slip, I see.And when those dimensions sit next to each
other. The only the issue Ihave with that is the stories that we
have of grand my Ann coming backand saying, don't worry, I'm okay
in heaven, and we've got storiessimilar to that. Why would that fit
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with that? Those dimensions crossing intoeach other or fading into each other.
Yeah, again, you're talking aboutanother dimension wherever it is that we pass
on. To call it the homeworld, you want to call it heaven.
Whatever that is, it is eitheranother dimension, a sixth seventh days
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one of those, or it issomething even further beyond. You know,
we get into the idea of asimulated universe, Well, the dimensions would
be a part of that simulation.But the I think we lost you here
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for just a second, Mike,Hopefully you'll be back in just a quick
second. Interesting conversation along those lines. I had an interesting conversation with my
mother in law today about heaven.My father in law was a deacon in
Catholic Church and we were talking aboutheaven and we discussed oh there you are,
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there we go okay, have alittle blip over here. Okay,
so sorry. Anyway, when Iwas explained to the audience while we had
the little time slip there if youwill, was I had a conversation with
my mother in law today. Myfather in law, God rest the soul,
has leftist, but he was adeacon a Catholic church. So we
my mother in law and I havethese philosophical discussions, and she got talking
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about purgatory today. I'm Baptist bybackground, and we got talking about purgatory
and how that is a place whereyou the soul goes against cleansed before going
on to heaven. At least that'swhat the theory is. But my question
to her was could that just bea dimension? Is having a dimension isative
for a dimension that we passed through? And is that where the stories come
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from because of people that have experiencedthat crossing of dimensions? Yeah? Absolutely,
Yeah, it could certainly be anotherdimension. And you know what's what's
fascinating about this. I mentioned simulateduniverse a moment ago, and you know,
so many of our ancient religions talkabout this. They just don't use
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the word simulation, but they talkabout it. If you, you know,
go down the route of reincarnation.We come from someplace, we come
down here, we live out oflife, learn some lessons, pass away,
go back up, and then werecycle back through it again again,
like we're logging in and out ofyou some sort of program like you mentioned,
you know, moving through purgatory,moving to uh, you know,
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having so you know, you're herepreparing for another world. These other worlds
beyond so so they could be otherdimensions, they could be other universes,
you'll, something that's even further beyondthis sort of thing, you know,
and those those locations are outside thescope of time. There, they are
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above our dimension, so they canmove in and about at will. So
when we have a visitation from aloved one like that, time is time
is nothing to them. You know, they've already passed into that, you
know, to that other dimension.They've left this one, even if they
we talk like ghosts and things likethat. Okay, that is the consciousness,
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that's the soul outside the body.So again we're you know, our
consciousness is in the fourth dimension.The body is the third so it loses
the third dimensional shell. The consciousnessis still here on Earth roaming around for
whatever reason, Like my grandfather stuckaround for a while until my grandmother passed
away, and then they went on. They some people might even call a
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dissension. They've ascended into another realm, another dimension, and that sort of
thing, but they have the optionto come back down into this dimension and
interact. So getting back to yourstacked theory where you've got the photographs,
I actually like that analogy. Thestack photographs and sometimes the photographs smelt,
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But do the photographs have that consciousness? So yeah, so I wouldn't say
that the photo like the photographs,like the moments themselves have a conscious although
some people would argue that Earth hasa consciousness. So that's a whole different
that's a whole other that's a wholeother can of worms. But so they
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each have a the moments have energy. They all have a basically frequency that
they are, that they were attunedto, and sometimes those frequencies will basically
tune into each other and you'll geta glimpse of that. Sometimes you might
get you might actually tune into yourselfat another lay and we have the doppelganger
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incidence, and they're not about that. Yeah, about that a few minutes.
But what I what I want toget at here is we're talking and
we're just already take our next break. But I want to give this that
you chew on this a little bitwhile we want to take our next break.
You have the photographs that may meldand may we may see another moment
in time coming through. But thenwe've got that consciousness coming through saying hey
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it's Aunt Katie. I'm back.I just wanted you know, I'm okay.
How I'm not sure I understand thedifference between that energy and those photographs
melting if you want to use thatanalogy. Yeah, so Aunt Katie,
who's already passed away before we getBefore we get into that, we got
to take a break here, Sochew on that a little bit. When
we come back, I'll have youanswer that question. Folks, stay with
us, Mark Grexucker, interesting conversation, don't go anywhere. So we're back
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with my guest Mike Recsucker, andwe're talking about time. Now. I
cut you off before you get achance to answer that question, but I
gave you a couple of seconds tothink about it. What do you what's
Yeah, So in that situation,Katie, who's already passed on, is
is outside of time? So takelike, okay, us right now,
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I have a desk in front ofme and say, you know, all
those photographs were stacked up in frontof me right now, and I'm aunt
Katie. I could pick and choosewhere on that stack I would want to
go. So if I want togo see you know, Mike in twenty
twenty three, well that's this photoin this stack and I access that.
So the conscious we'll just use theterm consciousness for definition here, has the
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opportunity to pick and choose when they'rewhat dimension they go back to visit or
where they go back to visit?Correct? Yeah, okay, all right.
We mentioned a word that I've I'vefound interesting and I first heard it.
Oh god, it was an oldTV show. I I first heard
the term doppelganger. It might evenhave been star Trek now that I think
about it, way back when.But that whole concept of a oppel ganger
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or seeing oneself again has fascinating.It has always been fascinating to me.
Is that actually a rift in time? You mentioned it briefly, but I'd
like you to kind of talk aboutthat some more. Yeah, I think
more of what we're experiencing here aretime slips that we are actually experiencing ourselves
at another moment in time. Theword doppelganger is a German word means double
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walker. And you know, becausepeople were experiencing seeing themselves are seen.
You know, a person walk intoa room one moment and then a minute
later that they go again the exactsame the exact same thing happening. The
Norse tradition called those vartigers, butyou know, the more common name is,
you know, the German doppelganger.And over time, as people didn't
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understand the phenomenon, uh, therewas legend in lore and things like that
place on top of it. Soit became like this whole evil twin sort
of thing. But when you actuallylook at the stories now give a couple
of examples, it seems to bemore of a time slip. So one
of the more famous stories, youdo a Google search on doppelganger, you
will find the story of the famouspoet Gutta, and he recounted this in
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his book Dick Tongue and Vite orin English poetry and truth. And he
was on a road one day walkingtoward Justin I, which is you know,
town in Germany. He's having anaffair with a young woman there and
he's lost in his thoughts as he'swalking down the road, and all of
a sudden he notices on the otherside of the road, walking the opposite
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direction was this man in a goldtrim gray suit. And so as he
turned to get a better look atthe guy because he thought the suit was
interesting, the man just disappeared intothin air. In the world was that.
There's nothing to be done for theguy completely disappeared. So Gutsa continues
on his way but notes it inthe back of his mind. But a
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couple of years later he's kind offorgotten about the incident. He's been up
to other things. And now thistime he's walking from Dressenheim headed in down
the same road in the opposite direction. He gets around that spot and it
hits him. He looks down athimself, Oh my gosh, I'm the
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guy in the gold trimmed gray suit. I'm actually wearing it right now.
So that yeah, it's a doppelganger incident because it's himself twice at the
same spot, and he saw himself. But to me, it's a time
slip. And because he saw himself, you know, a couple of years
later is what it was. AndI think what happened here we're talking frequency,
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energy, vibration, that sort ofthing. He had been in kind
of a partial meditative state, beinglost in his thoughts or today we call
it zoning out right and we doit all the time, which is not
a good thing when we're like drivingdown the road and you know, he
lost in our thoughts of his ownout a bit, and we miss our
turn, and we miss our exit. Doctor gotta go back and you know,
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get that exit. It's a typeof meditative state. And I believe
what happened is he had gotten tothat little bit of a meditative state there,
and when he entered that area,he was able to tune into his
own frequency there at another moment intime, and he caught a glimpse of
it. And as he noticed thisindividual over there, which had eventually figured
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out to be himself, and turnedto get a better look, he broke
that meditative state and then lost theimage of himself. And that meditative state
he literally traveled between dimensions for lackof a better world and saw himself.
Yeah, it ended up being likethis bleedover of two different moments in time.
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Yeah. One of my favorite storieson time slips was and the names
now escaped me. But it wastwo young ladies that were in France and
they went to the uh not theloop, the guard verse, I thank
you very much. Yeah, andthat's probably one of my favorite stories.
But that isn't so much them seeingthemselves as much as it is traveling to
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a different dimension. But from whatyou're describing, it's basically the same theory.
It's very similar. Yeah, Soinstead of tuning into their own energy
and their own frequency, they basicallyhad tuned into a moment out of It
was around the time of the FrenchRevolution. Now these were uh two highly
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educated uh school mistresses. They wereeach running uh universities at the time,
which was really unheard of, youknow back then at that time. These
were two you know, pioneers intheir field for women. And you know,
uh the one it was Eleanor Jordainand Andy Moberley and and forget which
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is which, but the one itinvited the other to France because they were
going basically, we team up torun the one particular school, and so
they're getting to know each other andwent to Versailles just, you know,
as an afternoon, let's go downthere. The one had a flat in
Paris and they decided to go downto Versailles, and so it was just
an afternoon stroll in the gardens there, and they saw this whole scene play
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out before them, where again itlooked like something out of the French Revolution.
And I had a guest on afew weeks ago that experienced something similar
in the little town of Stuart,Florida, where herself and another friend walked
out of a restaurant and they werein another time and it stayed like that
for a few minutes and then itsnapped back. It's easy to say they're
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crazy. It's easy to say that, yeah, but it keeps happening,
it does. You know. Oneof my favorite stories is from the house
that were we call the Conjuring Housenow the Farmhouse in Harrisvill, Rhode Island,
where that was the first Conjura moviewas based off of. Now what
happened there during the Parent The Hauntingof the Parents was ten years time,
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and you know, so it's very, very different than the movies. And
I'm very good friends with the family. But you know, Andrea and Carolyn
will say all the things that happenedthere at the house, you know,
all the crazy things. The thingthat was the most fascinating was one evening.
It was just after the sants thathad gone bad with the Warrens,
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and Andrea was up doing some homeworkand Carolyn had woken up. She hadn't
eaten dinner that night. She asked, Andrea, can you reheat some of
that stew and put on a shortpot of coffee. So Andrews like,
okay, yeah, I'll go takecare of that. Carolyn sitting in the
parlor area looking out into the diningroom, which is the area where the
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sants had gone bad, and allof a sudden she sees morph into existence.
There in that room is a family. Like out of the seventeen hundreds,
you have a woman cooking over anopen hearth, which at that time
in the seventies that that fireplace hadbeen boarded up for like one hundred years.
But there it is, all ofa sudden, raging fire as a
woman cooking over a couple of kidsrunning around and two gentlemen sitting at a
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table there with pewter Stein's and theyturn and they look at Carolyn and they
see her sitting there. Because onenudges the other says, hey, would
you look at that points over thereat Carolyn as if she was the ghost,
and then the moment kind of subsidedthere. But Yeah, of all
the crazy things that happened at thehouse, like, that's the most significant
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because you had the future looking atthe past and the past looking at the
future, and that does beg aninteresting conversation on time travel itself. Do
you think we're ever going to beable to create a tool, a mechanism
that will allow this free travel betweenYeah, so, given all of these
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different types of accounts, I thinkreal time travel is going to have more
to do with the consciousness, withthe mind than something like a DeLorean and
a flux capacitor. I don't necessarilybelieve it's going to be a machine that
will do it. I think ifwe can, you know, going with
this idea that we are essentially tuninginto these different moments, were tuning into
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these different frequencies out of ourselves tosee another moment, I think if we
can learn to control that, thenwe will be able to stay within that
moment for longer periods of time.And I harken back to the movie Somewhere
in Time starring Christopher Reeve and JaneSeymour said, I think the writer Richard
Matheson was was really onto something there. And for his research with the it
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was originally a novel and then developedinto the movie, he actually, you
know, consulted significant books on time, on the theories of time and how
time works and the idea of timetravel and all that incorporated that into a
story. So you know, ChristopherReeve's character, Richard, essentially wills his
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consciousness from nineteen eighty back to nineteentwelve. He basically tricks himself into believing
the subliminal messages, dressing up inthe garb of the era, you know,
getting all the modern amenities out ofhis room, and wills himself back
to that year and he ends upin the same room that he had come
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from just in nineteen twelve, insead of nineteen eighty and he did it
all with the mind. And Ithink it's like I said, I think
Mattheson was really onto something there.It'd be more like that thanking, And
I think the mind is where it'sall at. And I think you've really
hits on something here, because wereally don't understand the power of our own
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brain. I talk about this alot. People say that we only use
twenty percent of our brain. Thetruth is we use one hundred percent.
We only knew no what twenty percentof it does. So what will the
inner portions, the inner walls ofour mind tell us that we're able to
do. I mean, look atthings like Eerie Geller. I mean kind
of getting off on a different subjecthere, but look what Euri Geller could
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do with his mind bending spoons.Look what remote viewers can do. So
there's so many there's so many thingsin our with our brain that we don't
understand yet. And I think you'vereally hit on something there. When we
can somehow learn how to harness that, that might be the entire key.
Are you familiar with the Philip experimentout of Toronto back in then, I
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can't say that, I am.It was an interesting and we're getting closer
our next break here. It wasan interesting experiment done in Toronto. I
want to say seventy one seventy twoA group, not unlike mine, decided
to do an experiment. They createda guy named Philip. They gave him
a dosse, wife, kids,whatever, uh, and they built him
on paper and then they did aclosed investigation stance, if you will.
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They taped it, they filmed it, rather, and they audio taped it,
and they actually got data saying thatPhilip was there. But the problem
was Philip was their creation. Okay, so that's going down the line of
like the idea of the Buddhist thoughtform of what we would call a tupa
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where you've actually, you know,created a sentient being from your own thoughts.
Yeah. That's yeah, fascinating stuff. But nonetheless it goes to the
discussion of how powerful our brain isand what we can do with it.
And with that, I got totake another break, but we'll be back
at just a few minutes, folks, interesting conversation. I hope you'll come
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on back and hear the rest ofthis because we've got a whole nother section
to talk chat about. So beright back in a minute, and we're
back with this really interesting conversation withMike Rexseker. But before we get going,
I want to remind everybody to takea look at what we're doing at
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great programming here on the X ZoneRadio and TV broadcast network www dot XZBN
dot net is a great way toget there, or you can check me
out directly at Paranormal steakout dot org. Mikes find you. How do folks
find out about you? Yeah,you can find me Mike Ricksecker dot com.
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I'm all over social media, soyou know, Facebook, Instagram,
techtok all those sorts of things.Also connect to Universe Portal dot com,
which is my online learning platform anda wonderful community of people that we have
out there that are, you know, basically going down this rabbit hole of
research. Rabbit hole sounds familiar.And I think I heard of a show
(40:04):
named yeah, Edge of the rabbitHole. That's uh, that's one of
my podcasts. Yeah yeah, Socheck check them out, folks. Interesting
stuff. And we're not going tocover everything. I don't want to cover,
I can tell you that right now, but I want to I want
to get back to this time thingbecause I just I just find that the
power of the brain and how you'vedescribed the use of the ability of the
brain with this uh uh stack timetheory is it's just really fascinating to me.
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But do people do you find thatthere are people out there that travel
through this the stack of photographs whichI'm going to use as a regular description
now go through the stack of photographsat will. I think I think there
have been people that have figured thatout. Maybe it's you know, people
from the future that I figured out. I think our ancients knew how to
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do this, you know, longago, way back in the day,
and that's you know, one ofthe functions of the stone circles or you
know, even the pyramids and thesesorts of things in ancient Egypt. I
have a whole Stargates of Ancient Egypttour where we go to these locations that
are designated as actual stargate locations therein Egypt. And the question is,
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Okay, where did they go?Did they go to some other place in
the cosmos, did they go toanother place on Earth? Did they go
to another point in time? Allthese options are there in the table.
So just stargate tour. Is thisa physical tour you take or do you
do it all loan? Yeah,this is a physical tour. We go
to Egypt. We're going April sixteenthto the twenty eighth in twenty twenty four.
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That's our it's an annual tour thatwe do, and we it's twelve
days. We hit so many ofthe different temples. Of course the pyramids
we have two hours just our smallgroup to ourselves in the Great Pyramid of
Giza. The whole thing's opened upto us, which is wonderful. So
yeah, there's a lot of fourday now cruise wo it's a great,
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great time. Yeah, okay,I have to check that out myself.
How does this How does this connectwith the Mandela effect? That's something that's
been very popular and discussed about alot in recent times. How does this
connect with that the Mandela effect?And What is the Mandela effect for those
that don't know. Yeah, theMandela effect is this idea that essentially something's
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been changed in the timeline, thatthere are large amounts of people that remember
something from the past, all ofthem remembering it identically, but yet when
you actually look into the past,then it's no, that's not the way
it was. And this came aboutwe call it the Mandela effect because when
Nanson Nelson Mandela passed away in twentythirteen, there were a ton of people
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that had this memory of him passingaway when he was incarcerated back in the
eighties. And so Fiona Brum isthe one that coined this term and did
some research on this. And there'sa lot of these different things around where
a lot of it is branding centric, So like the Barristain bears, Cornucopia
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and fruit of the Loom fruit loopswas you know, had a different spelling,
Oscar Mayer, all these different things. Now, I do believe that
you know, many of these thingsare related to something. Yeah, something
was changed in the timeline. Nowthat doesn't mean somebody from like twenty two
eighty five is going back in timeto change the spelling of fruit loops.
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It's too trivial to do that.I think they're going back and you know,
they might just be to watch andobserve, or maybe they're gathering some
sort of resource. The resource andthere are repercussions of ripple effect like the
or the butterfly effect that's happening.You know, some unbeknownst to them,
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repercussion happens because the one little thingthat they did over here, they maybe
they crossed the street and you know, the car was turning had to slow
down, and that just you know, had this cascading effect over so many
other things you just don't know.So I think it's the result of time
travel activity and just these repercussions thatwe didn't know were going to happen.
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So time travel is occurring now.That's kind of what I'm hearing from you.
That's that that's interesting because you hearso you hear so much, specially
on the internet, and everything onthe internet is truthful. Well, yeah,
of course, Well I think it'sbecause we have this preconception of what
time travel is supposed to look like. You know, you go back to
H. G. Wells and thetime machine, you could go to you
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of course, you know flu youknow, fux capacitor and a delore and
you we always think it has tobe like, you know, this machine
it's using you know, gigawatts ofenergy and you know, and our our
physicists will say, well, youknow, it's possible if you had the
right amount of energy, if youharnessed all the energy of the sun.
Well yeah, if you harness allthe energy of the Sun on the planet
(44:58):
Earth, you're going to destroy theplane it. Or they'll say, well,
you know, you could you know, slingshot yourself around a black hole
and you know, around the blackhole space and time works, you know
differently, it bends time, andit's like, yeah, we're not getting
to a black hole anytime soon.So they put these ideas out there that
are we just can't physically make happenright now at all. Uh So you
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know, it's given us this,you know, this idea that time travel
can't happen at all. And what'sfascinating is, Okay, so a lot
of our scribes, a lot ofour writers, and they come up with
these different paradoxes and they play outwonderfully in different science fiction stories and thrillers
and mind bending type stories. Uh, you know, many of them use
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like the Grandfather paradox, which wesaw in Back to the Future. You
know, you go back in time, you do something to disrupt your own
birth, and you know you'll disappear, and you know that academia will say,
well, that's you know, that'sjust a storytelling device. Yet in
the nineteen eighties there was a propositionwas the Novakov consistency principle, and with
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this basically stated that time travel couldphysically be possible, but you couldn't change
anything because the math wouldn't come outto zero. It would change the remainder
in the equation and that just wouldn'tjibe. So you could go back in
time, but you can't change anything. So two physicists, Kip Thorne and
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Joe Polchinsky are having this discussion,and so Polchinsky throws out this idea to
Kip Thluner is like, well,if you take a billiard ball and you
use the Einstein rosenbridge a wormhole.We can talk about Einstein rosenbridge and a
wormhole, because this is something thatwe already have established in our theoretical physics.
So if we take this billiard balland we shoot it through this Einstein
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Rosen bridge, and we set upthe bridge so that the exit of it
is just before the billiard ball goesinto the wormhole, and it knocks the
billiard ball off course. You know, then then you've changed time. And
they call this the Kulchinsky paradox.The thing is, though, if you
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look at that, how is thatdifferent than the grandfather paradox. You've gone
back in time and changed this outcomefrom occurring. Instead of you know,
killing your grandfather and preventing your birth, you are, you know, knocking
the billiard ball off course to preventit from going into the wormhole to begin
with. It's the same thing.But oh we can talk about it because
you know we're physicists and we're usingthe bridge. Sure. Yeah, finally,
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so how that is actually? Watcha show called uh, I don't
know if I could mentioned, butI'm going to Bodies. It's on one
of the streaming channels. Take alook at that. You'll I'm not familiar
with it, but I'll take watch. It's a it's a mini series.
But anyway, how does this howdoes this attach to ets? Now?
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This is one thing that's actually happeningquite a bit in the paranormal field.
Now, uh, you're finding folksconnecting, bigfoot, ghosts, UFOs,
and aliens all together into this thistime dimensional issue. What do you do
You theorize that ets or aliens areconnected here? Yeah, I mean it's
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all connected. They're all everything inthe universe is connected, which is why
I am my whole connected universe platform. That doesn't mean they all come from
the exact same place, but justby the very nature that we're all within
the universe, and the universe ishis whole. You know, we're all
connecting. And you look even lookphysically at the Chandra X ray imagery of
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the universe and you find, youknow, these galaxies, you know,
all connected to each other through youknow, gaseous filament is a wonderful uh
X ray photo. U. Butyeah, so okay we're talking ets.
This are a whole week. Couldgo down for a while. We don't
have a few minutes left. Butyeah, but okay, ets, some
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of them, I'll say that someof them, Yes, our physical beings
that have come here some sort ofcraft from a another place in the cosmos.
Maybe they're using a wormhole or somethinglike that to travel here to explain
you know, the space flight orwhatever. You know. Well, we
would have to dive into that abit more. But some of them are
physical. Some of them are interdimensionalbeings that have come here from uh some
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maybe fifth, sixth, seventh andwhat have you. Sure that happens.
We see accounts of that in ourhistory. Not talking ets, but other
beings that are very very eerily similarin nature with the whole abduction scenario and
all that. But you know,maybe they're a ferry or you know,
some other being you know that ourancestors talked about. Now we're talking about
(49:57):
them as ets. Some of themcould also be time travelers as well,
from some other point in time thathave that have shown up here. And
I've seen some people say, well, you know all this ET and UAP
stuff, you know they're they're notextra trestoral. They're just us from another
point in time. Well, maybemaybe some of them are. But I'll
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say this, just because they aretime traveler doesn't necessarily mean that they are
human. Millions of years from now, there could be another intelligent life form
that springs up on this Earth thatdevelops civilization and time travel and all that,
or could even be an extraterrestrial fromanother place in the cosmos that has
established something here in Earth millions ofyears from now and also has developed time
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travel capability and they show up,and so then it would be, yeah,
an extraterrestrial that is native here toEarth, but it is still time
traveling. So there's a lot ofdifferent ways that we can look on this.
And I'll throw something outside to you. Another thing I like to bring
up quite frankly, and in ourlast minute we're not going to be able
to get into. But the collectiveconscious theory because everything is connected, is
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that because everything's connected, well that'sbasically I call it eternal Knowledgey Young had
the collective unconscious people talk about theAkashak records. Again, I think they're
all related. I think we mayalmost all be talking about the same thing
here. But it is knowledge thatis out there eternally for us to be
able to tap into. Yeah.Yeah, And like you said, with
this as a rabbit hole, wecould go down and we're going to maybe
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have to do this again to furtherexamine this. A very interesting show,
and I do appreciate you being withus tonight. Mike. Thank you so
much, and stay safe and folks, We've come to the end of our
show tonight, so I want tothank all of you for joining us tonight.
Please check us out on the EXORadio and TV broadcast network, and
(51:45):
until we get to meet again,I'll get it out right. Till we
meet again, please take care ofyourselves, love your family, hug your
kids, and we'll see you onthe other side. Have a good night, folks.
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