September 22, 2023 • 55 mins
Robert Lindsy Milne is a Psychic-Intuitive Counsellor, Teacher, Healer, and Life Coach. He is recognized across the continent as one of the most insightful Psychic Intuitive Counselors of his time. At a very young age he realized his psychic gifts and started his first job working as a psychic intuitive doing readings at the “Cozy Tea Room” in Toronto. Robert has traveled the world giving insight with his Psychic Intuitive Sessions to tens of thousands of people and has become recognized across the continent as “One of the most insightful Counselors of his time”.
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Welcome to the Paranormal Stakeout Radio TVshow with Larry Lawson. As a former
career law enforcement officer and law enforcementeducator, Larry focuses on the use of
tried and true law enforcement investigated techniquesin conducting paranormal investigations. Despite his experience
and training, Larry also and keepsan open mind to discussions on topics that
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are professionals in the field of theparanormal and parapsychology, conducting the investigations and
research needed to further the cause ofparanormal study. Larry advocates an agenda of
standardization of structure and training in thefield of paranormal investigation and research for the
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jury of the existence of the paranormal, whether it is ghosts, UFOs and
solved mysteries, hauntings or cryptids.No topic is beyond the investigative breach of
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host of the Paranormal Steak aat radioTV show Larry Lawson. Well, good
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evening everyone, and welcome back toParanormal steak Out. I'm your host,
Larry Lawson, coming to you fromthe command post of the Florida Bureau of
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the channel. So it's great tobe back here. The summer starting to
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break down here in Florida. Theheat's been a little bit better over the
last few weeks, but like therest of the country, we've all been
scorched. Want to send my bestto everybody up in Canada with the fires
they've had and they just got hitby that hurricane. And also please keep
in mind our friends and families outin Hawaii on Maui, so keep that
in mind. Tonight got an interestingshow for you. We're going to be
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delving back into the world of thepsychic intuitive. My guest site is a
Robert Lindsay Milne. Robert is apsychic intuitive counselor, teacher, healer,
and life coach. He's recognized acrossthe continent as one of the most insightful
psychic intuitive counselors of the time.At a very young age, he realized
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the psychic gifts and started his firstjob working as a psychic doing intuitive readings
and a place called the Cozy TeaRoom, And we're going to ask him
about that. That place, andthat's in beautiful Toronto. He's traveled all
over the world giving insight with hispsychic intuitive sessions to tens of thousands of
people and has become recognized across thecontinent as one of the most insightful counselors
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of his time. He's also workedwith police and the Canadian Secret Service helping
together intel and work on missing persons. And we're going to really want to
talk about that a little bit.With that, I'd like to Welcome to
the show, Robert Milne. Robthanks thanks for joining us tonight. Thank
you. I've been looking forward totalking with you, and thank you for
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the service and the work that you'redoing. It's fascinating. Well, it's
yeah, it was. It wasa long time. I did my time
on the job and now I'm I'mtrying to figure out this new mystery and
I was I was including the newpart of your life there this part too
as well. Well, I appreciateit. Thank you well. For some
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of my guests that might not befamiliar with your work, can you share
with this little about who Robert Milneis. Well, Robert Lindsay Miln.
I have been a professional psychic comingthis January for fifty nine years. And
I started working at the Cozy tRoom when I was fifteen and a half
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years old and I was homeless,and I was surviving on the straight by
my instincts, intuition, and psychicability. I had demonstrated psychic awareness and
psychic abilities at a very young age, so it wasn't a surprise that I
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was using my instincts to survive.And I heard dad, if you worked
at the Cozy Tea Room, orin those days, doing readings was against
the law. You could get arrestedfor it. I was gonna ask you
about that. I'd like to knowmore about that. Well, that law
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got appealed, I think it was. It was it was July first,
two thousand and nineteen, so thatwas when we were allowed to do readings
and get paid for it. Andthe other thing that happened was cannabis got
legalized on the same day. Idon't know if there's any connection there,
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but Babe sake, I don't know. So when I when I heard that
that if you worked at the Cozyt room doing tea leaf for readings and
card readings in the afternoon, youwould get a sandwich, a cup of
tea and some cookies and you wouldget paid. And if you worked in
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the evening, you were get ahot meal, sandwich, cookies, cup
of tea and you'd also get paid. And I applied there and I told
the woman, I told her myname, and I came down in auditioned
for the I the interview was doinga reading and I had never done a
tea leave for reading. I didn'thave any idea what to do, nor
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did I had I ever read cards. I had no idea, but I
am, And then I was apsychic, and I still am, And
I held the tea cup in frontof Mary, and I started doing a
regular reading, or how I wouldgive in promotion to people, pretending I
was looking at the tea lives.And then I put the cards on the
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table, and I had no ideawith a seventh herts man, so but
I would point to it and thenbut share my psychic feelings. I started
working that day. So it wasn'tit wasn't the tea leaves of the cards.
It was your own psychic ability thatyou're reading. You were just I
just had to have another way ofdoing it. Because there's a sign on
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the wall that said all readings arecomplementary and are done for entertainment purposes.
So that's how you got to runthe law. That's how it was.
That's how people got around the law. Okay, And I started working there,
and I worked there for about sixyears, and I worked five days
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a week, sometimes six, andon Sundays most of the times we would
go out to private parties and doreadings. So I was working five and
six days a week every day duringthat time. Let's back up a little
bit. When did you first recognizethat you were given you had this gift?
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How old were you when I identifiedit? I was around ten ten
years old. I was recognized Iwas doing I was seeing things and then
getting in trouble for it. Oneday, I was coming home from school.
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I was about five or six,and I said to my mother,
Grandma Harris died today. And bythe way, Grandma Harris was my great
grandmother, not my grandmother, andshe was living in England and I was
in Toronto. And my mother gotangry with me and punished me in some
way for saying bad things. Andthat was confusing to me. That evening
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or the next evening, at dinner, my mother said to my father,
Grandma Harris died yesterday. And Ithought my father was going to be angry
with my mother for saying bad things. But to my astonished, they just
talked about it. But yet Igot punished for saying bad things. And
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it was like that. One time, when I was about eight or ten
something like that, we went toa Stanley Cup hockey game and it was
Boston in Toronto, and it wasthe semi final and the score was tied
at the end of the third period, and when the teams came on the
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ice for the first overtime period,I knew number seventeen with the Tronta maker
Leaves was going to score. Ijust knew it. He wasn't. His
name was Gary Eman. And anyway, as the game was about to start
in Maple Leaf Gardens and there's eighteenthousand people watching, and the lights went
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down, I couldn't hold the wordsin my mouth any longer, and I
jumped up and started yelling, screaming, ensuring because Gary Eman was going to
score the overtime goal. Gary Emanwasn't on the ice, and everybody turned
and looked at me and my dad, and he just said sit down.
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Anyway, three minutes later, Emancame on the ice and tipped the puck
in the nat and scored the overtimegoal. And it was then that I
knew other people wasn't weren't seeing whatI was saying. That was when that
happened. Now, you mentioned thatwhen you started working at the Cozy t
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Room, you made mention of beinghomeless. Yes, how did how did
that play into all of this?I came from a remarkably abusive background,
and a couple of different times Iran away and I I lived on the
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streets during that time, so thatthat's how it happened. M hm.
And my first time was fourteen anda half. Okay, go ahead,
a finish I was. I wasalso about to say that my psychic abilities
were honed in survival on the street. And and so whatever awareness or psychic
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ability I had as a child,when when I was on the street,
they were they were even uh theyou know, the lessons were even more
important or more severe. And duringthat time, when I was in trouble
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or having difficulties, I was alwayspresented with an option. I could use
my intuition, my psychic ability,or I could do something that would be
illegal or immoral. And almost alwaysI chose to use my intuition or psychic
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ability to solve the problem. Inwhat way? I don't know if you
can give me an example, Uh, will you find sorry, go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead? No, please ask you a question?
No, No, I just wasit? Did it give you a direction?
Did it say you know you needto go to this place, or
you need to turn this corner ortalk so or be in the right place
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at the right time, be wherethere's food, things like that. That
that's how and I almost always usemy those insects. And I was always
so always ready to you know,to work as well. And I also
did readings or gave information to peoplein those days also and on a couple
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of occasions, you know, Icertainly had to do things that I wouldn't
have, you know, wanted toif it wasn't survival. But almost always
I used my intuition. And duringthat time I never stole anything. Actually
I didn't do that until I wasin my fifties, but I've spent my
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whole and the by the way,the reason that I you know, did
it in my fifties is because Iwanted to know what it felt like to
steal something, because I had neverhad never done that. Well, I'm
a believer in what you do oneway, you you must do equally the
opposite. And I also believe thatthe purpose of life is to experience.
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That's it, okay and so andand we have free choice and free will
to experience anything we want. Therule with free choice or free will to
do anything that you want, wantto go ahead and jump in, Yeah,
no, no, I got tobecause we got to take a break
first. So we're going to pickus up on the on the other side.
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So folks, stay with us.Robert Lindsay Mill, my guest tonight.
Stay with us. We'll be backafter these messages and we are back
on paranormal stake out. My guesttonight, Robert Lindsay Mill, a psychic
intuitive counselor. Got a lot ofquestions to ask you, but probably let
me start off with this one psychicintuitive counselor To folks that might not completely
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understand what that means, Can yougive a quick definition? Ah? Well,
I always called myself a psychic afterI left the tea rooms. As
time war on the younger psychics comingup the the new agers thought that being
called all the psychic was something bador old fashioned or whatever, and everyone
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was getting all these fancy titles thatthey were giving themselves, you know,
and I just decided, Okay,so instead of just being a plane all
psychic, I'll be a psychic intuitivecounselor or a psychic contuitor. That's that's
why it is not true. Okay. So I am a simple, straightforward
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I'm I'm I'm into the fundamentals ofthe craft. You know, Vince Lombardi
was a fundamentalist. You know,he'd start every season at the beginning with
all the football players around him.He'd hold the football up and say,
gentlemen, this is a football.And they started from the fundamentals and built
upward. And when people allow themselvesor want to become psychic, because almost
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everybody can be. When you learnthe fundamentals of being psychic, you you
then can do pretty much anything.When you know the fundamentals right understood,
Now, you were good when wewere just before the break you had mentioned
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just mentioned a little bit about stealingstuff and experiencing other things as a cop.
I gotta be honestly, that's alot that's a little tougher for me
to swallow, only because of mybackground. I do, I think understand
where you're coming from. I'd beglad to have to explain it a bit
more. Sure, please do Okay. So I'm I'm I'm neither. I'm
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not advocating committing any crimes. Whatwhat I'm looking at is things overall,
and when we're on this planet,in this solar system, there there are
things that are fundamentals and one ofthe fundamentals is we're here to experience.
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We have free choice and free willto do anything we want. But in
this reality there's accountability. I didn'tsay you could do something and get away
with it. I just said youhave free choice and free will, there
is accountability. Okay. So therule with you can do whatever it is
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that you want. What goes withit is you must experience the opposite.
So in order to know good,you must know back. In order to
know what's right, sir, youknow, mister policeman, right, you
also have to know what's wrong.So we need to know the opposite.
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You can't have a one sided line. Okay. So that's all it is.
And I understand the concept. Idon't know. I don't know that
I completely I completely agree with you. I don't need to know stealing is
wrong. But I get where you'recoming from. As far as experience,
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well just just sort of. Iwent through fifty two or fifty three years
of never stealing anything and living onthe streets, and one time, as
as as I'm mature man, neverexperiencing what it was like to take something.
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I set up a situation where Iwould steal something, but I also
came back the next day and paidfor it. Okay, well, uh,
I understand what she's trying to describeme. I don't know that I
agree with you, but well we'llwe can move on from that. That's
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getting back to the questions, howmany times have you stolen me? Yeah?
Never, never, once? Ever, sir? No, no,
okay, no, no, no, I have not. But but that's
just me and you know and andwe're all different. Now. Want to
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move on a little bit into morethan psychic more, Yeah, what do
you? I want to talk aboutyour philosophies? What you think this phenomenon
is on the other side? Whatwhat what is it we're dealing with when
you're when you're when you're getting theseimpressions. Is somebody contacting you from the
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other side? What is your philosophyof what this is? I don't have
a philosophy about that. I'm asI said, I'm very simplistic and I'm
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focused on the fundamentals. I'm interestedin the answer. I don't care how
I get to the answer. Ilook for the answer and I don't put
a label on it. I traveledaround the world, appearing on radio and
TV call in shows and I justgot thrown off track here. I'm just
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I have a natural talent, abilityand awareness. What I'm focused on is
solving the problem. I have theawareness that I can sense and feel things
that are going to happen. I'veyou done it more than one hundred thousand
times in my professional career and overfifty nine years. And I'm just stumped
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here for a seconds. It's reallycrazy, I guess, So I guess.
Go ahead. Well, I don'tput a label on what I do,
except I do psychic reetings. Andwhen when I was looking for a
lost person, I didn't care whetherI was using the ability to project my
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mind I'm sorry to remote view,or was I just being psychic. It
didn't matter because I looked for thesolution and I and as I was growing
up, I never learned any wordsabout what they were called, and I
just simply did it. That's whatI'm what I'm getting at. And maybe
this is the detective in me heretrying to figure out this this puzzle.
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What is it on the other sidethat's providing you with information? I e
and I'd love to talk a littlebit more about your work with the Canadian
Secret Service as well as law enforcementfinding folks. So my interpretation is somehow
you're getting that information from the otherside. So I was just wondering where
you thought that information may be comingfrom. For example, I've spoken to
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psychics before that believe that it isall the result of a collective mind.
For example, when we leave,our spirits go to a collective type of
giant ball in the sky, andour souls come in and out of there.
I've heard several different philosophies, sothat's why I was kind of wondering
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if you had given any thought orif you knew where you were getting this
information. I don't know what's onthe other side, and I don't know
what will happen there. What Iknow is I can take care of the
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problem or difficulty in front of meand help the person in front of me.
So I'm that focused on and givinginformation to them and how they can
get over whatever it is that theygo through. When I do a reading
for somebody, someone at this time, I see their life from conception to
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completion. Now I don't see eitherlike the pictures, but I see the
timeline. And when I do areading for someone, I move forward and
backward in time. In their life, and I talk about the different times
and phases. The readings I doare more of a monologue rather than a
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dialogue, so and I asked peoplenot to interrupt me until the reading's completed,
so it's a monologue mostly, andI don't ask questions. I just
give the information. And I wasthe first Canadian psychic to do open an
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open line phone call show. AndI was able to with the person telling
me their first name where they werecalling from, and I would say,
have a question prepared, but pleasedon't ask it, have it written down,
and when they come on, myname is Mary from such and such
a place, I would say thankyou, and then just start talking.
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And I would talk for about aminute or a minute and a half and
then I'd say Mary or what overthe person then was what would you like
to ask? And about eight ornine calls out of ten, that was
what they were looking to hear.And then they would ask another another question
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or a different one. Sorry theywould they were had the opportunity to ask
another question. After that, Iwould do things like and incidentally, I
have recordings of that of that typeof performance in shows that I've been on
in the last couple of years,I would say, okay, so and
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in my early days, you know, telephones were attached to the wall.
Someone would call in. My nameis George, and I'm calling from This
is an actual call. I'm callingfrom such and such a place that I
said, you know, you know, George, you're in your living room
now, is that correct? Yesor no? Yes? You're holding the
phone with your left hand, yesor no? Yes, Turn your head
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to the right a little more.Look straight ahead from there. Is that
where the window the living room,the main living room window is yes?
Look above the window? Is thatwhere is cracked? Yes? So I
do things in those shows that way? Where does it come from? I
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don't care. I'm getting the informationand giving the answer. Now that's a
psychic performance. I do the sametype of thing when I tune into connect
and sense energy for that person.Question for you, do you bring people
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that're doing reading for do you bringpack somebody from their past, a past
relative to give them from not amedium? I don't. I don't deal
with spirits specifics specifically. Again,what what I do? I'm I'm a
psychic intuitive, I sense, Ifeel, I see, I'm aware,
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I do gentle, loving kind things, and I give really beautiful psychic readings.
Okay, and once again from somebodythat's not with the gift, my
see that it's not a gift.It's a talent that almost everybody has.
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Almost everybody has. And what Iteach my students is the first thing about
being psychic is become aware of what'sobvious. Look at the person. When
you become aware of what's obvious,then more becomes obvious again. And as
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you become more aware of what's obvious, you get to a point where I
gotta, I gotta put you onhold. We're at our thirteen minutes like
in fact, I'm over, sofolks a little over, stay with us,
Robert Lindsay Milled. We'll be backright after these messages. And we
are back. And I guess RobertLindsay Milled like a contutive counselor. So
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this is this is interesting for me, Robert, because this, from what
you're telling me, all psychics donot have contact with spirits on the other
side, which is not something Iquite I grasped. So, well,
you've put words into my mouth.I didn't say that at all. Okay,
Well, I didn't say that atall. I said, the way
I do my work, I'm afundamentalist. It doesn't matter how I get
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to the answer. I look forthe answer and I get a lot of
them. So it's not important tome to have a title, a name,
or a way of doing it.I'm focused on the answer. Early
in my career, I was inmy twenties when I was touring. I
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bumped into a man in London,Ontario, and he was as about as
old as I am now I'm seventiesfour, and he had been a court
stenographer. And I said to theguide, Wow, that's fascinating. How
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many words a minute can you write? And he said, I don't know.
I said, well, what doyou mean you don't know? He
said, I write what they said. So I thought about that, and
yes, focus on the answer.It doesn't it doesn't matter how fast get
the answer. So in that moment, this isn't a math test. In
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a math test, you have toshow the teacher how you got the answer,
but if you just write the answerdown you get no points. Once
again, my job is finding theanswer, and that's what I focus on.
And that's a great point. Butand this goes into something I want
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to talk I like to talk toeverybody about how we can protect folks that
we're helping from Charlatan's because there's aton of them out there. But this
later kind of goes into that you'vegot to be right because if you're helping
somebody, and correct me if I'mwrong. But I assume people will come
to you for advice on what theyshould do or what their direction they should
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take. Would that be correct?I give them information on how they can
make their own decisions. Okay,I don't. I very very seldom ever
say you should do this? Fairenough? I once again, I believe
in free choice and free will,and I'm very focused on being positive.
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You know the motto in my podcast, you know, do good, stay
safe, and above all, justbe kind and and I spend a lot
of my life just being kind.So I would choose the positive information.
But but I it's not for meto make a judgment on what they don't.
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And that's fair. But the folksdo I mean with my team,
since I you know, we lookat the buildings that may have activity in
them, and folks come to usfor help. Can you find out what's
what's going on here? Of course, we were not psychic intuitives. We
can't make things, we can't changethings. We should just find information.
But people the way, Larry,I'd also just like to point something out
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that I do things that no otherpsychic alive does, and that is I
guarantee my work. If I doa reading for you, I guarantee absolutely
well that that if you're ever Iabsolutely guarantee my work for as long as
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I'm alive or you And if forany reason the reading I did for you
was not up to your value oryou felt you got it, good choice.
I just give you vacku money.And if I did a reading for
you, and I could have doneit twenty or fifty nine, fifty years
ago, and you come to meand say, hey, Robert, you
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know that reading you did for meI was crap, you know, you
know thirty seven years ago. Ohokay, here's your money back. Just
like that. I can really appreciatethat. But what I was getting it,
I was pointing out the Vale valuesthat I work at and and you're
talking about I don't hang out withpsychics very much, and I think that,
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yes, indeed, there are thievesin every business or everywhere you go.
Ok isn't that wasn't hasn't that beenyour job? So I don't hang
around that much with others psychics.I but when in this field doing readings,
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if you do a bad reading oryou have a clash with somebody,
you're not having a bad day oryou're not just you can't connect with everybody.
Usually what happens is the disc discthis discrumpled clients says, oh,
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that person's a fraud, And thathappens so much. That's so we don't
very often get the opportunity to makeit right. It's easily. That's from
that goes back to the original questionI was going to ask you a few
minutes ago. Don't we have aresponsibility to get it right? And here's
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what and here's where I'm going withthis, So you may get what,
get what right, get right whatever. We're telling the folks that we're trying
to help because they're coming to us, they're in a state of wonderment.
They don't know what to do,they don't know where to turn. Maybe
they're upset. And I've seen it, at least on my side of the
house. Folks will go in andthey will tell somebody a B and c
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is happening in yours, okay,And they're wrong, And because they're wrong,
they cause more harm to a personthat maybe they had some other mental
health issues and that answer that wasgiven to them caused them or harm.
So don't we have an obligation toget it right? And I appreciate where
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you're coming from. You guarantee yourwork. But if you just speak for
what other people do, no,I can only speak for me and I
do okay, So I don't knowwhat other people do. I know there
are people that are frauds. Iknow that I'm not. My job is
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to help people in trouble, andthat's what I'm really good at. I'm
not. I can't eliminate frauds.I can be the best psychic I can
be, because that's the purpose ofmy life. That's what I do.
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April's April six this year, Ihad quadruple bypass surgery. I knew I
was having I didn't have a heartattack, and and I worked right up
until April five. Well, andhow did you know? How did you
know? How did you know youwere going to did did you know?
Yes? I know I was.I had blocked arterism. I had to
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have card surgery. And I workedright up, did readings right up to
the night before, and then Ihad a few weeks off, and then
a couple more weeks practice, andthen I slowly started doing readings again.
And for my clients, my purposeis to give service. My purpose is
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not to attack, arrest cues,judge. My purpose is to help the
person in front of me. That'swhat I do. And I guess that
was my big question. How howdo we know that we're always right?
For example, and I'm asking youto education, Well, you're never right.
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Come on, man, no oneis in is one hundred percent right?
You never I'm not yelling, I'mbeing expressive. Nobody's one hundred percent
right, okay. And this iswhere my why worry comes in. For
example, I in early in mypolice career, I had a problem with
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psychics, had gotten some bad information. I would work a homicide and would
just get all kinds of silly informationthat never came out. Life changed for
me. My eyes were open,and I won't bore you with that story.
So I believe in the value.But the one thing I have found
out, Robert, I've seen thatfolks that mean well, four different folks
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with the ability might give you fourseparate answers to the question. They mean,
well, but not all four peoplecan be right. So here's my
question, how do we? Why? Why are why don't psychics all see
the same thing? I mean,do you have all? Because Okay,
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I got a really good answer foryou, because nobody sees or has the
same point of view. A testthe reason and you're what you went through
as a youngster, I'm sure influencedhow you see things today. Is that
a good way to put it orabsolutely? I spent my life working on
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me personally as well as so youknow, Larry All I'm saying, I
am concerned about what I do.I can be as honest as I can
possibly be. I cannot control whetheryou are or not. What I can
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do is be the best I canbe. I take care of the person
that needs my help. In fact, that's what I focus on. It's
gone from that doing readings to findingpeople working with the RCMP Security Service and
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specifically having direct contact with the KGBagent. Yes, sir, and I
got to hear this story. Igot to hear this story. I just
took it as well as a fewyears ago. I was involved in a
project of a man that was dyingof the most potent superbug on the planet,
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and he was in a coma,and I had a psychic link with
him for over eight months, andI helped find the cure to that disease.
By the way, as I said, it was one hundred percent antibiotic
resistant. The book I didn't write, it was written by the epidemiologists who
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led the research I mentioned in thatbook, The Perfect Predator. I think
it's twenty seven different times. Andthe book is one of scientific awards and
things like that, and so Ifocus on what I need to do.
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And there has never been a timethat I went to a police agency or
law enforcement agency and offered to givemy work. The only time I've ever
done it is when I've been stronglyencouraged to do what they wanted me to
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do or asked. I never Inever volunteered, and and that's how.
But I did have conditions. Andthe condition was nobody would know about a
psychic was involved, and nobody wouldknow specifically that I was involved. Well,
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we're getting rid of this. Thishour is moving fast. We're coming
up on our thirteen years, sowe're gonna we're gonna get back to this.
I want to delve more into yourwork with law enforcement. I guess
is please saying hear the Canadian SecretService on you? So when we will
talk more about that. So folksstay tuned for this last section. You're
gonna enjoy it. Robert Lindsay Milneis my guest. See after these messages
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we are we are back on paranormalistake out with my guest, Robert Lindsay
Milan. I'd like to remind everybodyif you'd like to learn more about what
I do and what my group does, check us out at Indian River Hauntings
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that we've done there. You canemail me at ghosts Guy at parent Normal
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and Robert, where can people findyou? It finds me on my
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website www dot Robert Lindsay Milne dotcom. You can find me my my
podcast on well, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, in any other place.
Uh, and I guess that's prettymuch. Yeah, you've got you've got
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a podcast also, right, it'scalled My Side of the Crystal Ball and
and uh, we're is doing quitewell. And we I talk about psychic
things as well as I have beenyou know, several guests on another psychics
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and things. Okay, Well,getting back to the our last conversation with
law enforcement, Now, what arethe first things that would which I would
see is if somebody was to cometo me with information, I'd need to
know how you got it, howyou came up with this information. But
you say law enforcement agencies came toyou. Now, you mentioned you worked
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with a Canadian government quite a bit. I worked for the RCMP Security Service.
And is that like the government?Okay? So okay, So mid
seventies and in that time, duringthe Cold War, there was more intelligence
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being passed between the American Canadian borderat Niagara Falls than anywhere in the world.
The Canadians US had a special Deepsorry Dispatch a center in Niagara Falls,
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as well as the FBI did twoanyway. On the other side,
I was I was being I washaving an interview. My brain just got
tired. I was having I wasappearing on a radio show in Ottawa in
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the mid nineteen seventies, and itwas a test run to see if I
was good enough to do the show. I got, I got, I
got the show, and I didthat show twelve every month for twelve years.
When I got home from there,it was in the seventies, the
program director said, this man fromTask News Agency wants to do an interview
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with it, and I said,leave me alone. I don't want anything
to do with it. Long andshort of the story is the RCMP found
out that this guy tried to contactme. Then they wanted to talk to
me the Mounties, and they wantedto know why, and I didn't know.
They then asked me to get involvedand speak to the guy because not
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only was he a journalist, healso happened to have diplomatic passport. He
also had spent all of his careerworking in Washington, DC, and then
all of a sudden he ended upgetting transferred to Ottawa. Not a promotion,
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not a promotion at all, andthey thought that he was going to
get shipped back to Russia. Theythought that he thought he was going to
get transferred back to Russia and endup going into Siberias had lost was losing
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power, and he was a Brejanand they believed that when he was reaching
out he contacted to the radio station, that he was reaching out to them
the Mountis for help, and theythought he wanted to defect. Okay,
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and they came and saw me andinterviewed me, and I did some psychic
things, and they then asked meto go to Ottawa and agree to see
the guy. When you say psychicthings, just to psychic things, I
did you know a kind of psychicperformance. I was like twenty five or
twenty six, and okay, herewas one. They were talking about this
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man like I can I can talkabout it because because its pastor the legal
anyway, his name was Ivan Moranov. And when they talked talked about Moranov,
the Mounties, I said, Isaw it. His name was Blitnikov.
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And their face turned white and theylooked at each other and then back
at me, and they said,you either know something about this or you
really are psychic. So that's thetype of stuff that I did, okay.
They wanted me to meet him.I agreed, and the next time
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I went to Ottawa, I metwith him and they prepared me. And
the only time ever in my career, I allowed myself to be interfered with
outside information. So they gave mea dossier and told you, gave me
information about the guy. And whenI was alone with him doing the reading,
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I found out that that information wasincorrect. So I I just simply
ad libs from there. And theywanted me to say something like because because
the guy was in trouble, somethinglike sometimes we get into trouble or sometimes
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we get you know, we're wewe get stuck, and we don't think
we have any friends, but wedo, and you friends, you know,
some something quite like that. AndI was, you know, I've
been with the guy for about anhour, and you know, I had
to say something like whatever those wordswere. When I said them, he
looked at me, stood up,turned around, walked right out the door,
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didn't say goodbye, nothing. Shewalked away and left me there.
The room that I was in hadtwo adjoining rooms, and you know,
it was all wired up in nineteenseventies technology and the guys came in the
room and said, oh, greatgoing, Robert, and I said,
I screwed it up. He walkedout and I said, not necessarily.
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Anytime they get confronted or a suggestionof defection, that's how they handle it.
They just get up and walk away. And he said, you might
never know what happened, and wemight not ever know. I then got
a call from the guy from theRCMP, and he said, are there
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any other skills that you have?He said, we have this thing called
dead letter boxes, and that's wherea dead letter boxes where you look where
they passed information. And they said, do you think you could find them?
I said maybe, and I wentdown to Niagara Falls, looked at
some maps of the area and pointersto some areas. Then we went out
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in the park and I found onethat day. And over the next two
years, I went down to NiagaraFalls every month and did that looking for
the dead letter boxes. I've beendoing it for about six months. And
we were out in the park andthe guy said to me, do you
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remember your Russian friend? And Isaid yeah, and he said it worked
out? And I said what what? What? What? How did it
work out? He said it workedout and He never said another word after
that, so I don't really knowwhat happened, but it worked out.
How many years did you actually workfor And when you say the RCMP,
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that is the government, the federalgovernment, it's the federal it's it's the
FBI version, it's the Canadian versionof the FBI. I'm very very familiar
with him. Okay, so Iworked under cover. I wasn't employed by
the government, right, Okay,how long did you do that? Two
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years? Two years? Now?You also helped up some missing persons cases,
Oh, several. The first onewas early when I was touring and
I was in a small town inBarry, Ontario. I used to go
there the first show of my ofa tour and there had been this this
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woman, a young woman, marriedwith a child, really high class kind
of girl woman, and she hada day off. She was going to
the hairdresser, dropped her child offat the babysitters, went to the mall
where the hairstylist was, and noone ever saw her again, and they
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couldn't find her. And several monthslater I was in Barry, did a
radio show and was doing readings andlate at night, ten o'clock at night,
the police because I was working latethat night the police knocked up my
door. I'm sorry it was earlier. It was around six o'clock. They
knocked at my dower and they saidthey wanted to talk with me. You
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know, it screwed up that readingfor sure. And they told me about
this woman and they asked me,and they told me that they wanted me
to see if I could find themher. And I said I didn't want
to do it, and they said, if you don't want to do it,
you can't work here, or we'llstop you. And I said,
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okay, but let me let mecome back and see me tonight to do
it. And they said okay,and we came back and I went down
to the police station that night andwe looked at maps of the area and
I said, but first of all, I have to tell you you're not
going to find her until way intoMarch. And this would have been in
the fall, it would have beenlike October. And I said, you'll
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find her, and it will.How you'll be able to know is by
an old train trustle that says nineteentime. And I saw it and sensed
it, and they insisted that nightthat we go out into the field and
look, and they weren't taking mevery seriously. And we were driving around
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in the in the countryside and youknow, in the dark. And then
we went down this road and therewas this train dress all that said nineteen
ten. And then they took mea bit more seriously. In the next
day, they did this big searchin the area and they didn't find anything.
And in the springtime, so thatone never get that one did not
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get solved. It did get solved. When I said it would be like
I said, it was in theI said it would be in the springtime,
and I was, you know,during the work in October, in
that night and day, gotcha,gotcha. Well, a lot of satisfaction
helping helping folks with closure on thingslike that. So I you know,
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I know they appreciated all of theall of your help on that one.
In our last minute or so,Robert, I mean, is there anything
you'd like to share with the audienceto maybe as a final final note,
regardless of what you think or feelright now, regardless of your opinion,
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no matter what, just do nicethings, be kind. You can always
do that. Yeah, and thatthose are those are well spoken words.
One of the things that I enjoyedabout having folks like you on the show
is giving folks a taste of whatindividuals with your talents can do to help.
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So we do appreciate you being heretonight, and folks, I want
you to know that I appreciate allof you being here tonight. Interesting show,
and I'm looking forward to seeing younext time. So until then,
love your family, hug your kids, take care of yourselves, and we'll
see you on the other side.Have a good night, folks.
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evening everyone, and welcome back toParanormal steak Out. I'm your host,
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break down here in Florida. Theheat's been a little bit better over the
last few weeks, but like therest of the country, we've all been
scorched. Want to send my bestto everybody up in Canada with the fires
they've had and they just got hitby that hurricane. And also please keep
in mind our friends and families outin Hawaii on Maui, so keep that
in mind. Tonight got an interestingshow for you. We're going to be
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delving back into the world of thepsychic intuitive. My guest site is a
Robert Lindsay Milne. Robert is apsychic intuitive counselor, teacher, healer,
and life coach. He's recognized acrossthe continent as one of the most insightful
psychic intuitive counselors of the time.At a very young age, he realized
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the psychic gifts and started his firstjob working as a psychic doing intuitive readings
and a place called the Cozy TeaRoom, And we're going to ask him
about that. That place, andthat's in beautiful Toronto. He's traveled all
over the world giving insight with hispsychic intuitive sessions to tens of thousands of
people and has become recognized across thecontinent as one of the most insightful counselors
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of his time. He's also workedwith police and the Canadian Secret Service helping
together intel and work on missing persons. And we're going to really want to
talk about that a little bit.With that, I'd like to Welcome to
the show, Robert Milne. Robthanks thanks for joining us tonight. Thank
you. I've been looking forward totalking with you, and thank you for
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the service and the work that you'redoing. It's fascinating. Well, it's
yeah, it was. It wasa long time. I did my time
on the job and now I'm I'mtrying to figure out this new mystery and
I was I was including the newpart of your life there this part too
as well. Well, I appreciateit. Thank you well. For some
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of my guests that might not befamiliar with your work, can you share
with this little about who Robert Milneis. Well, Robert Lindsay Miln.
I have been a professional psychic comingthis January for fifty nine years. And
I started working at the Cozy tRoom when I was fifteen and a half
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years old and I was homeless,and I was surviving on the straight by
my instincts, intuition, and psychicability. I had demonstrated psychic awareness and
psychic abilities at a very young age, so it wasn't a surprise that I
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was using my instincts to survive.And I heard dad, if you worked
at the Cozy Tea Room, orin those days, doing readings was against
the law. You could get arrestedfor it. I was gonna ask you
about that. I'd like to knowmore about that. Well, that law
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got appealed, I think it was. It was it was July first,
two thousand and nineteen, so thatwas when we were allowed to do readings
and get paid for it. Andthe other thing that happened was cannabis got
legalized on the same day. Idon't know if there's any connection there,
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but Babe sake, I don't know. So when I when I heard that
that if you worked at the Cozyt room doing tea leaf for readings and
card readings in the afternoon, youwould get a sandwich, a cup of
tea and some cookies and you wouldget paid. And if you worked in
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the evening, you were get ahot meal, sandwich, cookies, cup
of tea and you'd also get paid. And I applied there and I told
the woman, I told her myname, and I came down in auditioned
for the I the interview was doinga reading and I had never done a
tea leave for reading. I didn'thave any idea what to do, nor
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did I had I ever read cards. I had no idea, but I
am, And then I was apsychic, and I still am, And
I held the tea cup in frontof Mary, and I started doing a
regular reading, or how I wouldgive in promotion to people, pretending I
was looking at the tea lives.And then I put the cards on the
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table, and I had no ideawith a seventh herts man, so but
I would point to it and thenbut share my psychic feelings. I started
working that day. So it wasn'tit wasn't the tea leaves of the cards.
It was your own psychic ability thatyou're reading. You were just I
just had to have another way ofdoing it. Because there's a sign on
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the wall that said all readings arecomplementary and are done for entertainment purposes.
So that's how you got to runthe law. That's how it was.
That's how people got around the law. Okay, And I started working there,
and I worked there for about sixyears, and I worked five days
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a week, sometimes six, andon Sundays most of the times we would
go out to private parties and doreadings. So I was working five and
six days a week every day duringthat time. Let's back up a little
bit. When did you first recognizethat you were given you had this gift?
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How old were you when I identifiedit? I was around ten ten
years old. I was recognized Iwas doing I was seeing things and then
getting in trouble for it. Oneday, I was coming home from school.
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I was about five or six,and I said to my mother,
Grandma Harris died today. And bythe way, Grandma Harris was my great
grandmother, not my grandmother, andshe was living in England and I was
in Toronto. And my mother gotangry with me and punished me in some
way for saying bad things. Andthat was confusing to me. That evening
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or the next evening, at dinner, my mother said to my father,
Grandma Harris died yesterday. And Ithought my father was going to be angry
with my mother for saying bad things. But to my astonished, they just
talked about it. But yet Igot punished for saying bad things. And
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it was like that. One time, when I was about eight or ten
something like that, we went toa Stanley Cup hockey game and it was
Boston in Toronto, and it wasthe semi final and the score was tied
at the end of the third period, and when the teams came on the
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ice for the first overtime period,I knew number seventeen with the Tronta maker
Leaves was going to score. Ijust knew it. He wasn't. His
name was Gary Eman. And anyway, as the game was about to start
in Maple Leaf Gardens and there's eighteenthousand people watching, and the lights went
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down, I couldn't hold the wordsin my mouth any longer, and I
jumped up and started yelling, screaming, ensuring because Gary Eman was going to
score the overtime goal. Gary Emanwasn't on the ice, and everybody turned
and looked at me and my dad, and he just said sit down.
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Anyway, three minutes later, Emancame on the ice and tipped the puck
in the nat and scored the overtimegoal. And it was then that I
knew other people wasn't weren't seeing whatI was saying. That was when that
happened. Now, you mentioned thatwhen you started working at the Cozy t
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Room, you made mention of beinghomeless. Yes, how did how did
that play into all of this?I came from a remarkably abusive background,
and a couple of different times Iran away and I I lived on the
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streets during that time, so thatthat's how it happened. M hm.
And my first time was fourteen anda half. Okay, go ahead,
a finish I was. I wasalso about to say that my psychic abilities
were honed in survival on the street. And and so whatever awareness or psychic
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ability I had as a child,when when I was on the street,
they were they were even uh theyou know, the lessons were even more
important or more severe. And duringthat time, when I was in trouble
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or having difficulties, I was alwayspresented with an option. I could use
my intuition, my psychic ability,or I could do something that would be
illegal or immoral. And almost alwaysI chose to use my intuition or psychic
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ability to solve the problem. Inwhat way? I don't know if you
can give me an example, Uh, will you find sorry, go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead? No, please ask you a question?
No, No, I just wasit? Did it give you a direction?
Did it say you know you needto go to this place, or
you need to turn this corner ortalk so or be in the right place
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at the right time, be wherethere's food, things like that. That
that's how and I almost always usemy those insects. And I was always
so always ready to you know,to work as well. And I also
did readings or gave information to peoplein those days also and on a couple
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of occasions, you know, Icertainly had to do things that I wouldn't
have, you know, wanted toif it wasn't survival. But almost always
I used my intuition. And duringthat time I never stole anything. Actually
I didn't do that until I wasin my fifties, but I've spent my
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whole and the by the way,the reason that I you know, did
it in my fifties is because Iwanted to know what it felt like to
steal something, because I had neverhad never done that. Well, I'm
a believer in what you do oneway, you you must do equally the
opposite. And I also believe thatthe purpose of life is to experience.
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That's it, okay and so andand we have free choice and free will
to experience anything we want. Therule with free choice or free will to
do anything that you want, wantto go ahead and jump in, Yeah,
no, no, I got tobecause we got to take a break
first. So we're going to pickus up on the on the other side.
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So folks, stay with us.Robert Lindsay Mill, my guest tonight.
Stay with us. We'll be backafter these messages and we are back
on paranormal stake out. My guesttonight, Robert Lindsay Mill, a psychic
intuitive counselor. Got a lot ofquestions to ask you, but probably let
me start off with this one psychicintuitive counselor To folks that might not completely
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understand what that means, Can yougive a quick definition? Ah? Well,
I always called myself a psychic afterI left the tea rooms. As
time war on the younger psychics comingup the the new agers thought that being
called all the psychic was something bador old fashioned or whatever, and everyone
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was getting all these fancy titles thatthey were giving themselves, you know,
and I just decided, Okay,so instead of just being a plane all
psychic, I'll be a psychic intuitivecounselor or a psychic contuitor. That's that's
why it is not true. Okay. So I am a simple, straightforward
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I'm I'm I'm into the fundamentals ofthe craft. You know, Vince Lombardi
was a fundamentalist. You know,he'd start every season at the beginning with
all the football players around him.He'd hold the football up and say,
gentlemen, this is a football.And they started from the fundamentals and built
upward. And when people allow themselvesor want to become psychic, because almost
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everybody can be. When you learnthe fundamentals of being psychic, you you
then can do pretty much anything.When you know the fundamentals right understood,
Now, you were good when wewere just before the break you had mentioned
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just mentioned a little bit about stealingstuff and experiencing other things as a cop.
I gotta be honestly, that's alot that's a little tougher for me
to swallow, only because of mybackground. I do, I think understand
where you're coming from. I'd beglad to have to explain it a bit
more. Sure, please do Okay. So I'm I'm I'm neither. I'm
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not advocating committing any crimes. Whatwhat I'm looking at is things overall,
and when we're on this planet,in this solar system, there there are
things that are fundamentals and one ofthe fundamentals is we're here to experience.
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We have free choice and free willto do anything we want. But in
this reality there's accountability. I didn'tsay you could do something and get away
with it. I just said youhave free choice and free will, there
is accountability. Okay. So therule with you can do whatever it is
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that you want. What goes withit is you must experience the opposite.
So in order to know good,you must know back. In order to
know what's right, sir, youknow, mister policeman, right, you
also have to know what's wrong.So we need to know the opposite.
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You can't have a one sided line. Okay. So that's all it is.
And I understand the concept. Idon't know. I don't know that
I completely I completely agree with you. I don't need to know stealing is
wrong. But I get where you'recoming from. As far as experience,
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well just just sort of. Iwent through fifty two or fifty three years
of never stealing anything and living onthe streets, and one time, as
as as I'm mature man, neverexperiencing what it was like to take something.
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I set up a situation where Iwould steal something, but I also
came back the next day and paidfor it. Okay, well, uh,
I understand what she's trying to describeme. I don't know that I
agree with you, but well we'llwe can move on from that. That's
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getting back to the questions, howmany times have you stolen me? Yeah?
Never, never, once? Ever, sir? No, no,
okay, no, no, no, I have not. But but that's
just me and you know and andwe're all different. Now. Want to
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move on a little bit into morethan psychic more, Yeah, what do
you? I want to talk aboutyour philosophies? What you think this phenomenon
is on the other side? Whatwhat what is it we're dealing with when
you're when you're when you're getting theseimpressions. Is somebody contacting you from the
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other side? What is your philosophyof what this is? I don't have
a philosophy about that. I'm asI said, I'm very simplistic and I'm
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focused on the fundamentals. I'm interestedin the answer. I don't care how
I get to the answer. Ilook for the answer and I don't put
a label on it. I traveledaround the world, appearing on radio and
TV call in shows and I justgot thrown off track here. I'm just
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I have a natural talent, abilityand awareness. What I'm focused on is
solving the problem. I have theawareness that I can sense and feel things
that are going to happen. I'veyou done it more than one hundred thousand
times in my professional career and overfifty nine years. And I'm just stumped
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here for a seconds. It's reallycrazy, I guess, So I guess.
Go ahead. Well, I don'tput a label on what I do,
except I do psychic reetings. Andwhen when I was looking for a
lost person, I didn't care whetherI was using the ability to project my
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mind I'm sorry to remote view,or was I just being psychic. It
didn't matter because I looked for thesolution and I and as I was growing
up, I never learned any wordsabout what they were called, and I
just simply did it. That's whatI'm what I'm getting at. And maybe
this is the detective in me heretrying to figure out this this puzzle.
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What is it on the other sidethat's providing you with information? I e
and I'd love to talk a littlebit more about your work with the Canadian
Secret Service as well as law enforcementfinding folks. So my interpretation is somehow
you're getting that information from the otherside. So I was just wondering where
you thought that information may be comingfrom. For example, I've spoken to
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psychics before that believe that it isall the result of a collective mind.
For example, when we leave,our spirits go to a collective type of
giant ball in the sky, andour souls come in and out of there.
I've heard several different philosophies, sothat's why I was kind of wondering
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if you had given any thought orif you knew where you were getting this
information. I don't know what's onthe other side, and I don't know
what will happen there. What Iknow is I can take care of the
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problem or difficulty in front of meand help the person in front of me.
So I'm that focused on and givinginformation to them and how they can
get over whatever it is that theygo through. When I do a reading
for somebody, someone at this time, I see their life from conception to
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completion. Now I don't see eitherlike the pictures, but I see the
timeline. And when I do areading for someone, I move forward and
backward in time. In their life, and I talk about the different times
and phases. The readings I doare more of a monologue rather than a
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dialogue, so and I asked peoplenot to interrupt me until the reading's completed,
so it's a monologue mostly, andI don't ask questions. I just
give the information. And I wasthe first Canadian psychic to do open an
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open line phone call show. AndI was able to with the person telling
me their first name where they werecalling from, and I would say,
have a question prepared, but pleasedon't ask it, have it written down,
and when they come on, myname is Mary from such and such
a place, I would say thankyou, and then just start talking.
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And I would talk for about aminute or a minute and a half and
then I'd say Mary or what overthe person then was what would you like
to ask? And about eight ornine calls out of ten, that was
what they were looking to hear.And then they would ask another another question
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or a different one. Sorry theywould they were had the opportunity to ask
another question. After that, Iwould do things like and incidentally, I
have recordings of that of that typeof performance in shows that I've been on
in the last couple of years,I would say, okay, so and
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in my early days, you know, telephones were attached to the wall.
Someone would call in. My nameis George, and I'm calling from This
is an actual call. I'm callingfrom such and such a place that I
said, you know, you know, George, you're in your living room
now, is that correct? Yesor no? Yes? You're holding the
phone with your left hand, yesor no? Yes, Turn your head
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to the right a little more.Look straight ahead from there. Is that
where the window the living room,the main living room window is yes?
Look above the window? Is thatwhere is cracked? Yes? So I
do things in those shows that way? Where does it come from? I
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don't care. I'm getting the informationand giving the answer. Now that's a
psychic performance. I do the sametype of thing when I tune into connect
and sense energy for that person.Question for you, do you bring people
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that're doing reading for do you bringpack somebody from their past, a past
relative to give them from not amedium? I don't. I don't deal
with spirits specifics specifically. Again,what what I do? I'm I'm a
psychic intuitive, I sense, Ifeel, I see, I'm aware,
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I do gentle, loving kind things, and I give really beautiful psychic readings.
Okay, and once again from somebodythat's not with the gift, my
see that it's not a gift.It's a talent that almost everybody has.
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Almost everybody has. And what Iteach my students is the first thing about
being psychic is become aware of what'sobvious. Look at the person. When
you become aware of what's obvious,then more becomes obvious again. And as
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you become more aware of what's obvious, you get to a point where I
gotta, I gotta put you onhold. We're at our thirteen minutes like
in fact, I'm over, sofolks a little over, stay with us,
Robert Lindsay Milled. We'll be backright after these messages. And we
are back. And I guess RobertLindsay Milled like a contutive counselor. So
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this is this is interesting for me, Robert, because this, from what
you're telling me, all psychics donot have contact with spirits on the other
side, which is not something Iquite I grasped. So, well,
you've put words into my mouth.I didn't say that at all. Okay,
Well, I didn't say that atall. I said, the way
I do my work, I'm afundamentalist. It doesn't matter how I get
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to the answer. I look forthe answer and I get a lot of
them. So it's not important tome to have a title, a name,
or a way of doing it.I'm focused on the answer. Early
in my career, I was inmy twenties when I was touring. I
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bumped into a man in London,Ontario, and he was as about as
old as I am now I'm seventiesfour, and he had been a court
stenographer. And I said to theguide, Wow, that's fascinating. How
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many words a minute can you write? And he said, I don't know.
I said, well, what doyou mean you don't know? He
said, I write what they said. So I thought about that, and
yes, focus on the answer.It doesn't it doesn't matter how fast get
the answer. So in that moment, this isn't a math test. In
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a math test, you have toshow the teacher how you got the answer,
but if you just write the answerdown you get no points. Once
again, my job is finding theanswer, and that's what I focus on.
And that's a great point. Butand this goes into something I want
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to talk I like to talk toeverybody about how we can protect folks that
we're helping from Charlatan's because there's aton of them out there. But this
later kind of goes into that you'vegot to be right because if you're helping
somebody, and correct me if I'mwrong. But I assume people will come
to you for advice on what theyshould do or what their direction they should
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take. Would that be correct?I give them information on how they can
make their own decisions. Okay,I don't. I very very seldom ever
say you should do this? Fairenough? I once again, I believe
in free choice and free will,and I'm very focused on being positive.
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You know the motto in my podcast, you know, do good, stay
safe, and above all, justbe kind and and I spend a lot
of my life just being kind.So I would choose the positive information.
But but I it's not for meto make a judgment on what they don't.
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And that's fair. But the folksdo I mean with my team,
since I you know, we lookat the buildings that may have activity in
them, and folks come to usfor help. Can you find out what's
what's going on here? Of course, we were not psychic intuitives. We
can't make things, we can't changethings. We should just find information.
But people the way, Larry,I'd also just like to point something out
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that I do things that no otherpsychic alive does, and that is I
guarantee my work. If I doa reading for you, I guarantee absolutely
well that that if you're ever Iabsolutely guarantee my work for as long as
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I'm alive or you And if forany reason the reading I did for you
was not up to your value oryou felt you got it, good choice.
I just give you vacku money.And if I did a reading for
you, and I could have doneit twenty or fifty nine, fifty years
ago, and you come to meand say, hey, Robert, you
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know that reading you did for meI was crap, you know, you
know thirty seven years ago. Ohokay, here's your money back. Just
like that. I can really appreciatethat. But what I was getting it,
I was pointing out the Vale valuesthat I work at and and you're
talking about I don't hang out withpsychics very much, and I think that,
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yes, indeed, there are thievesin every business or everywhere you go.
Ok isn't that wasn't hasn't that beenyour job? So I don't hang
around that much with others psychics.I but when in this field doing readings,
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if you do a bad reading oryou have a clash with somebody,
you're not having a bad day oryou're not just you can't connect with everybody.
Usually what happens is the disc discthis discrumpled clients says, oh,
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that person's a fraud, And thathappens so much. That's so we don't
very often get the opportunity to makeit right. It's easily. That's from
that goes back to the original questionI was going to ask you a few
minutes ago. Don't we have aresponsibility to get it right? And here's
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what and here's where I'm going withthis, So you may get what,
get what right, get right whatever. We're telling the folks that we're trying
to help because they're coming to us, they're in a state of wonderment.
They don't know what to do,they don't know where to turn. Maybe
they're upset. And I've seen it, at least on my side of the
house. Folks will go in andthey will tell somebody a B and c
(34:44):
is happening in yours, okay,And they're wrong, And because they're wrong,
they cause more harm to a personthat maybe they had some other mental
health issues and that answer that wasgiven to them caused them or harm.
So don't we have an obligation toget it right? And I appreciate where
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you're coming from. You guarantee yourwork. But if you just speak for
what other people do, no,I can only speak for me and I
do okay, So I don't knowwhat other people do. I know there
are people that are frauds. Iknow that I'm not. My job is
(35:29):
to help people in trouble, andthat's what I'm really good at. I'm
not. I can't eliminate frauds.I can be the best psychic I can
be, because that's the purpose ofmy life. That's what I do.
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April's April six this year, Ihad quadruple bypass surgery. I knew I
was having I didn't have a heartattack, and and I worked right up
until April five. Well, andhow did you know? How did you
know? How did you know youwere going to did did you know?
Yes? I know I was.I had blocked arterism. I had to
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have card surgery. And I workedright up, did readings right up to
the night before, and then Ihad a few weeks off, and then
a couple more weeks practice, andthen I slowly started doing readings again.
And for my clients, my purposeis to give service. My purpose is
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not to attack, arrest cues,judge. My purpose is to help the
person in front of me. That'swhat I do. And I guess that
was my big question. How howdo we know that we're always right?
For example, and I'm asking youto education, Well, you're never right.
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Come on, man, no oneis in is one hundred percent right?
You never I'm not yelling, I'mbeing expressive. Nobody's one hundred percent
right, okay. And this iswhere my why worry comes in. For
example, I in early in mypolice career, I had a problem with
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psychics, had gotten some bad information. I would work a homicide and would
just get all kinds of silly informationthat never came out. Life changed for
me. My eyes were open,and I won't bore you with that story.
So I believe in the value.But the one thing I have found
out, Robert, I've seen thatfolks that mean well, four different folks
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with the ability might give you fourseparate answers to the question. They mean,
well, but not all four peoplecan be right. So here's my
question, how do we? Why? Why are why don't psychics all see
the same thing? I mean,do you have all? Because Okay,
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I got a really good answer foryou, because nobody sees or has the
same point of view. A testthe reason and you're what you went through
as a youngster, I'm sure influencedhow you see things today. Is that
a good way to put it orabsolutely? I spent my life working on
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me personally as well as so youknow, Larry All I'm saying, I
am concerned about what I do.I can be as honest as I can
possibly be. I cannot control whetheryou are or not. What I can
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do is be the best I canbe. I take care of the person
that needs my help. In fact, that's what I focus on. It's
gone from that doing readings to findingpeople working with the RCMP Security Service and
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specifically having direct contact with the KGBagent. Yes, sir, and I
got to hear this story. Igot to hear this story. I just
took it as well as a fewyears ago. I was involved in a
project of a man that was dyingof the most potent superbug on the planet,
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and he was in a coma,and I had a psychic link with
him for over eight months, andI helped find the cure to that disease.
By the way, as I said, it was one hundred percent antibiotic
resistant. The book I didn't write, it was written by the epidemiologists who
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led the research I mentioned in thatbook, The Perfect Predator. I think
it's twenty seven different times. Andthe book is one of scientific awards and
things like that, and so Ifocus on what I need to do.
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And there has never been a timethat I went to a police agency or
law enforcement agency and offered to givemy work. The only time I've ever
done it is when I've been stronglyencouraged to do what they wanted me to
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do or asked. I never Inever volunteered, and and that's how.
But I did have conditions. Andthe condition was nobody would know about a
psychic was involved, and nobody wouldknow specifically that I was involved. Well,
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we're getting rid of this. Thishour is moving fast. We're coming
up on our thirteen years, sowe're gonna we're gonna get back to this.
I want to delve more into yourwork with law enforcement. I guess
is please saying hear the Canadian SecretService on you? So when we will
talk more about that. So folksstay tuned for this last section. You're
gonna enjoy it. Robert Lindsay Milneis my guest. See after these messages
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we are we are back on paranormalistake out with my guest, Robert Lindsay
Milan. I'd like to remind everybodyif you'd like to learn more about what
I do and what my group does, check us out at Indian River Hauntings
dot com or Paranormal FBI dot com. You can also check us out on
YouTube at Indian River Hunting's two threefour one and see some of the work
(41:55):
that we've done there. You canemail me at ghosts Guy at parent Normal
steakout dot org or check out thewebsite at Paranormal stakeout dot org. Most
importantly, check out all the othergreat programming you'll see here on the ex
Zone Network XBN dot net. Checkout all the other great shows on here,
and Robert, where can people findyou? It finds me on my
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website www dot Robert Lindsay Milne dotcom. You can find me my my
podcast on well, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, in any other place.
Uh, and I guess that's prettymuch. Yeah, you've got you've got
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a podcast also, right, it'scalled My Side of the Crystal Ball and
and uh, we're is doing quitewell. And we I talk about psychic
things as well as I have beenyou know, several guests on another psychics
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and things. Okay, Well,getting back to the our last conversation with
law enforcement, Now, what arethe first things that would which I would
see is if somebody was to cometo me with information, I'd need to
know how you got it, howyou came up with this information. But
you say law enforcement agencies came toyou. Now, you mentioned you worked
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with a Canadian government quite a bit. I worked for the RCMP Security Service.
And is that like the government?Okay? So okay, So mid
seventies and in that time, duringthe Cold War, there was more intelligence
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being passed between the American Canadian borderat Niagara Falls than anywhere in the world.
The Canadians US had a special Deepsorry Dispatch a center in Niagara Falls,
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as well as the FBI did twoanyway. On the other side,
I was I was being I washaving an interview. My brain just got
tired. I was having I wasappearing on a radio show in Ottawa in
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the mid nineteen seventies, and itwas a test run to see if I
was good enough to do the show. I got, I got, I
got the show, and I didthat show twelve every month for twelve years.
When I got home from there,it was in the seventies, the
program director said, this man fromTask News Agency wants to do an interview
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with it, and I said,leave me alone. I don't want anything
to do with it. Long andshort of the story is the RCMP found
out that this guy tried to contactme. Then they wanted to talk to
me the Mounties, and they wantedto know why, and I didn't know.
They then asked me to get involvedand speak to the guy because not
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only was he a journalist, healso happened to have diplomatic passport. He
also had spent all of his careerworking in Washington, DC, and then
all of a sudden he ended upgetting transferred to Ottawa. Not a promotion,
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not a promotion at all, andthey thought that he was going to
get shipped back to Russia. Theythought that he thought he was going to
get transferred back to Russia and endup going into Siberias had lost was losing
(45:58):
power, and he was a Brejanand they believed that when he was reaching
out he contacted to the radio station, that he was reaching out to them
the Mountis for help, and theythought he wanted to defect. Okay,
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and they came and saw me andinterviewed me, and I did some psychic
things, and they then asked meto go to Ottawa and agree to see
the guy. When you say psychicthings, just to psychic things, I
did you know a kind of psychicperformance. I was like twenty five or
twenty six, and okay, herewas one. They were talking about this
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man like I can I can talkabout it because because its pastor the legal
anyway, his name was Ivan Moranov. And when they talked talked about Moranov,
the Mounties, I said, Isaw it. His name was Blitnikov.
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And their face turned white and theylooked at each other and then back
at me, and they said,you either know something about this or you
really are psychic. So that's thetype of stuff that I did, okay.
They wanted me to meet him.I agreed, and the next time
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I went to Ottawa, I metwith him and they prepared me. And
the only time ever in my career, I allowed myself to be interfered with
outside information. So they gave mea dossier and told you, gave me
information about the guy. And whenI was alone with him doing the reading,
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I found out that that information wasincorrect. So I I just simply
ad libs from there. And theywanted me to say something like because because
the guy was in trouble, somethinglike sometimes we get into trouble or sometimes
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we get you know, we're wewe get stuck, and we don't think
we have any friends, but wedo, and you friends, you know,
some something quite like that. AndI was, you know, I've
been with the guy for about anhour, and you know, I had
to say something like whatever those wordswere. When I said them, he
looked at me, stood up,turned around, walked right out the door,
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didn't say goodbye, nothing. Shewalked away and left me there.
The room that I was in hadtwo adjoining rooms, and you know,
it was all wired up in nineteenseventies technology and the guys came in the
room and said, oh, greatgoing, Robert, and I said,
I screwed it up. He walkedout and I said, not necessarily.
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Anytime they get confronted or a suggestionof defection, that's how they handle it.
They just get up and walk away. And he said, you might
never know what happened, and wemight not ever know. I then got
a call from the guy from theRCMP, and he said, are there
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any other skills that you have?He said, we have this thing called
dead letter boxes, and that's wherea dead letter boxes where you look where
they passed information. And they said, do you think you could find them?
I said maybe, and I wentdown to Niagara Falls, looked at
some maps of the area and pointersto some areas. Then we went out
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in the park and I found onethat day. And over the next two
years, I went down to NiagaraFalls every month and did that looking for
the dead letter boxes. I've beendoing it for about six months. And
we were out in the park andthe guy said to me, do you
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remember your Russian friend? And Isaid yeah, and he said it worked
out? And I said what what? What? What? How did it
work out? He said it workedout and He never said another word after
that, so I don't really knowwhat happened, but it worked out.
How many years did you actually workfor And when you say the RCMP,
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that is the government, the federalgovernment, it's the federal it's it's the
FBI version, it's the Canadian versionof the FBI. I'm very very familiar
with him. Okay, so Iworked under cover. I wasn't employed by
the government, right, Okay,how long did you do that? Two
(50:47):
years? Two years? Now?You also helped up some missing persons cases,
Oh, several. The first onewas early when I was touring and
I was in a small town inBarry, Ontario. I used to go
there the first show of my ofa tour and there had been this this
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woman, a young woman, marriedwith a child, really high class kind
of girl woman, and she hada day off. She was going to
the hairdresser, dropped her child offat the babysitters, went to the mall
where the hairstylist was, and noone ever saw her again, and they
(51:38):
couldn't find her. And several monthslater I was in Barry, did a
radio show and was doing readings andlate at night, ten o'clock at night,
the police because I was working latethat night the police knocked up my
door. I'm sorry it was earlier. It was around six o'clock. They
knocked at my dower and they saidthey wanted to talk with me. You
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know, it screwed up that readingfor sure. And they told me about
this woman and they asked me,and they told me that they wanted me
to see if I could find themher. And I said I didn't want
to do it, and they said, if you don't want to do it,
you can't work here, or we'llstop you. And I said,
(52:21):
okay, but let me let mecome back and see me tonight to do
it. And they said okay,and we came back and I went down
to the police station that night andwe looked at maps of the area and
I said, but first of all, I have to tell you you're not
going to find her until way intoMarch. And this would have been in
the fall, it would have beenlike October. And I said, you'll
(52:45):
find her, and it will.How you'll be able to know is by
an old train trustle that says nineteentime. And I saw it and sensed
it, and they insisted that nightthat we go out into the field and
look, and they weren't taking mevery seriously. And we were driving around
(53:06):
in the in the countryside and youknow, in the dark. And then
we went down this road and therewas this train dress all that said nineteen
ten. And then they took mea bit more seriously. In the next
day, they did this big searchin the area and they didn't find anything.
And in the springtime, so thatone never get that one did not
(53:30):
get solved. It did get solved. When I said it would be like
I said, it was in theI said it would be in the springtime,
and I was, you know,during the work in October, in
that night and day, gotcha,gotcha. Well, a lot of satisfaction
helping helping folks with closure on thingslike that. So I you know,
(53:54):
I know they appreciated all of theall of your help on that one.
In our last minute or so,Robert, I mean, is there anything
you'd like to share with the audienceto maybe as a final final note,
regardless of what you think or feelright now, regardless of your opinion,
(54:14):
no matter what, just do nicethings, be kind. You can always
do that. Yeah, and thatthose are those are well spoken words.
One of the things that I enjoyedabout having folks like you on the show
is giving folks a taste of whatindividuals with your talents can do to help.
(54:38):
So we do appreciate you being heretonight, and folks, I want
you to know that I appreciate allof you being here tonight. Interesting show,
and I'm looking forward to seeing younext time. So until then,
love your family, hug your kids, take care of yourselves, and we'll
see you on the other side.Have a good night, folks.
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