December 29, 2023 • 53 mins
Ron grew up in Indiana and had his childhood experiences. Liz grew up in Minnesota and lived in a haunted house. We decided about 14 yrs ago to start investigating and then formed our group. Liz also has written “Haunted Manatee “. Is a staff writer for Bradenton Magazine. She also runs the Downtown Bradenton Ghost walk and Bradenton Beach Ghost Walk.
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Welcome to the Paranormal Stakeout Radio TVshow with Larry Lawson. As a former
career law enforcement officer and law enforcementeducator, Larry focuses on the use of
tried and true law enforcement investigated techniquesin conducting paranormal investigations. Despite his experience
and training, Larry also and keepsan open mind to discussions on topics that
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deal with evidence that are not quiteas physical in nature. Paranormal Stakeout guests
are professionals in the field of theparanormal and parapsychology, conducting the investigations and
research needed to further the cause ofparanormal study. Larry advocates an agenda of
standardization of structure and training in thefield of paranormal investigation and research for the
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purpose of one day being able toproduce the evidence needed to invents a jury
of the existence of the paranormal.Whether it is ghosts, UFOs, unsolved
mysteries, hauntings, or cryptids,no topic is beyond the investigative reach of
Larry Lawson and the Paranormal Steakhout RadioTV show team. Now Here is the
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host of the Paranormal Steakhout Radio TVshow Larry Lawson, and good evening everyone,
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and welcome back to Paranormal Steakout.I'm your host, Larry Lawson,
coming to you from the headquarters ofthe Florida Bureau of Paranoral Investigation and Indian
River Huntings in beautiful Vera Beach,Florida, and I'm wishing everybody out there
happy holidays. I hope you hada wonderful Christmas and you're going to have
a great New year. Make itpause to think positive, because there's just
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way too much negativity in the world. If you'd like to find out a
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hi, I have nothing else,and we'll introduce you on the show.
You know, we have a lotof interesting guests in the show and at
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times I'd just like to get backto the homegrown stuff, and that's what
we're going to do tonight, someof the folks that are in the field
doing the legwork when it comes toparanormal research and investigation. Tonight I have
Ron and Liz Reid. They ownown the op Right and pet Up Paranormal
Society of Bradenton and Bradenton, Florida. That's on the other side of the
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state for me. Ron grew upin Indiana and has had many childhood experiences
involving the paranormal. Liz grew upin Minnesota and she herself lived in a
haunted house and about fourteen years agothey decided to expand their horizons and begin
investigating the paranormal and form their ownteam, Paranormal Society of Bradenton. Liz
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is also a staff writer for BradentonMagazine in Bradenton, Florida. She is
the author of Haunted Manatee and That'stalking about the haunts and Manatee County,
Florida. She also runs the DowntownBradenton Ghostwalk and Braiddon Beach Ghost walk.
So with that, i'd like tointroduce my guests to you, Ron and
Liz Reid. Welcome to the show. Guys, glad to have you on.
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We're gonna like to start off withyou, Liz. Ladies, first
tell us a little bit about howyou became involved in the field, became
interested in the paranormal and began investigatinghow did you get there? From all
in Vennesuota. It started when Ihave six and we moved into the house
that we lived in, and everynight I would have a male presence right
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there. I could always couldn't seehim, but I could always feel him,
and eventually he ended up sitting onmy bed every night. You could
actually see the indentation and you couldn'tmove your legs. And then one night
he made an appearance and I sawwho he was, and I did some
research as I got older and foundout he was the owner of the house
that built it. His wife haddied, and then he committed suicide because
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he wanted to be with her.So, as you know, I always
always had a fascination for cemeteries,and I'd always go there and read books
and have my quiet time there.But the more I got the more I
just got you know, what happensto you after death. So the more
I thought about it, the moreI wanted to do some you know,
investigating on my own, to dothings to find out what people were saying
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is true or not. You know, I wanted my own opinion. So
did you do Did you investigate itall prior to getting married to Ron?
Or did you a little bit onthat house that we lived in? That's
pretty much? Yeah? And uhRon, tell us how you became interested
in the field. It started whenI was young, I would say,
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you know, six seven, Ihad my first experience, But my most
one that I remember is walking fromthe back of my house to my mom
and dad's business, which was downthe alley a little ways, and I
passed this house and I knew itwas empty, and I looked through the
window and my dog was with metoo, and there was someone in the
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basement and they were scrubbing out backthen they had scrub boards, you know,
and a sink, and they weredoing that, and I knew it
was empty, but I ran around. I went to the basement door,
opened it up, and there wasnobody there. That was my first and
I had a lot of experiences likethat. They were just short, you
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know, one time things. Howold were you when the first incident happened?
I was I was actually seven thenmaybe eight. The very first incidents
when I was very young, andthat was a I got a I had
a play telephone and it rang.I picked it up and there was somebody
on it and it was my dadand my dad had just died. And
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he told me to go outside,and I did, and my dog followed
with me and he took care ofme. You know, my dog did,
and my brothers and sisters. Iwas the youngest. They all came
and got me and brought me backinto the house. Oh that's pretty significant.
So you were young when your fatherpassed. That's yeah. I was
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significant experience. So I know,Liz is a writer. What do you
do me? I'm retired and I'mretired and I hunt ghost. Oh there
you go. What did you dobefore you retired? I worked at a
steel mill US still it's now USnext and Ino South Chicago and Gary,
Indiana. Okay, Well, sofourteen years ago, you guys decided you
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wanted to kind of solidify what youwere doing, uh, and you formed
a team tell it. Tell meabout your team. Well, we have
five active team members besides ourselves,and then we have other team members that
can come in and out when youknow they're available. We are like a
little family. We try to makeit a little family. Each of us
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has a specialty. Our tech guyis perfect and you know, analyzing and
debunking things. We have somebody that'ssensitive that does sciances for us. He's
real good. We have two thatlead investigators that are really good. And
then there's Ron and I. Itused to be just me and her,
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and then other people really wanted toget into it. We went through a
lot of people. The team wehave now we've had for several years.
So Ron, do you have aspecialty yourself or an area that you investigate
specifically yourself? I take care ofthe equipment, all equipments at our house.
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I take care of it. Ihelped set it up. I may
I stay at the base, youknow, and watch the monitors. I
do have a disability now, soLiz and my team are the investigators.
I just do the monitor team andletting them know what I see. If
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I see something, you do theheavy lifting, I got, I got,
Yeah, I don't do any ofthe heavy lifting. So, Liz,
do you have a special to yourselfthat the team. Yeah, I
couldn't feel the spirits when I walkinto place, and sometimes I hear them.
Yeah, okay, and so you'reyou're sensitive. Yeah. And when
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James are sands guy and I gettogether, you have to watch out because
him and I can stare at arampod and actually lift the rampod up or
move it back and forth to eachother. You actually physically lifted the rampod
to each other. Yea off theground, got about half an inch off
the ground. And then after thatthen we just I'd look at it and
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he'd look at it, and we'dstare at it and would just go back
and forth like I'd send it tohim, he'd send it back. Never
caught any of that on camera.No, our camera guy screwed up that
night. By time I was lowupset, Well, somebody actually walked in
front of the camera the first thestationary camera. Someone was standing in front
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of the camera guy. Because wehave another camera that we use, you
know, night vision camera. Heforgot to turn on the IR like,
so there was you really haven't seenuhing because it was dark well, and
that's the way it always seems togo. Things happened when they occur.
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Have you ever get have you everwanted to recreate that? That would be
a very amazing experiment. Yeah.So when those two get together, it
happens all the time with different items, you know. Yeah, yeah,
I like to be doing things likethat together. It's kind of cool to
see what we can do. Youknow. Well, I think that that
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says a lot about one of thetheories that I work with, and that's
the power of the human mind.I mean, there's been so many experiments
and things that have happened. UriGeller. I don't know if you remember
Uri Geller used to back in theseventies. He was famous for bending spoons
and things like that. But butyou know, the power of the mind
is still is still not researched enough, but we don't know what it can
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do. I would really encourage youto set up a specific investigation, or
during an investigation, actually film that, because I think that would be very
powerful for the world to say,oh, yeah, we've been trying to
catch it. Yeah, you shouldsee the video in the seance we did
at our house here with him.The door actually closed. Actually, he
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asked the good spirits to come andthe bad spirits to leave, and our
garage door going to the into thegarage from our porch opened up when he
asked him to come in, andslam shot when he asked him to leave.
Did you got that on film?That? Oh? Yeah, that's
that's not our Facebook page. Verygood. What about the backgrounds of the
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rest of your team do they have? I mean, I've got a lot
of public safety folks on my team, for example. What kind of folks
are on your team? What aretheir backgrounds? Well, our researcher that
she does no investigating, she justdoes research. She's retired from the FBI.
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Jim the gentleman that's so sensitive.He's worked with the CIA and helping
solve murders and things like that,and he's just you know, different things
he's done with them. And thenPam and Jamie, you know, they
just are normal, you know,everyday job type things. And Brandon,
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our tech guy, is a marinebiologist, so he's got a science background.
Yes, I think that. Ithink that's always helpful. Now,
your FBI person, were they aspecial agent? Were they investigator or the
supper will tell us she just says, I cannot do anything on Facebook or
anything like that. And I've seena lot of things that have been horrible
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in my life. Interesting interesting Andthe CIA person helping solve murders, I
find that interesting too because he isalso remote viewing. He was in two
he was in two wars. Hewas in Iraq and Iran with the CIA
as a airborne ranger. And uh, yeah, and he's retired. He's
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you know, he's my age.He's sorry, he's retired. Yeah,
Well, very interesting. So you'vegot you've got an interesting mix of folks
and and it's it's nice to havea group that actually can come together and
stay together. I know that myteam, the team I have right now,
has been together for a number ofyears, and that certainly is helpful.
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Well, uh, believe it ornot, folks, And this time,
this stuff goes quickly. We're aboutready to come up on our first
break. So when we come back, I'd like to talk to you a
little bit about your goals and yourpurpose, what you're trying to do as
investigators. So uh, think aboutthat, and folks, stay with us.
Uh, we're already take our firstbreak, but stay with us.
We'll be back right after these messagewith Liz and Ron Reid from Paranormal Society
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of Bradenton, Florida. So we'llbe back right after these messages. We
are back on paranormal stakeout with myguest to night, Liz and run,
Liz and run lead read right forththere, Sorry about that. So tell
me, folks, why do youdo this? What? What is your
goal? What is your purpose?What is your end game in doing what
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you do? Well? I lovehistory, and whenever I look in history,
there's always some story, some legends, something, so it leads me
to something, you know, SoI just keep That's I guess that's why
I do my writing, is becauseit just keeps going with me. But
I just like to just find outwhat really happens to us. That's all
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I really, you know, wantto know. I want to see prove
it to myself. You know thatthere is life after death. You know,
we're all made of energy, Sowhere does the energy go to?
And that's you know what I'm tryingto do with mine. And I just
want people to understand that we're notcrazy. You know, you know,
some people do think we're crazy.I'm crazy, but well I mean,
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yeah, we're all crazy in thisworld, but I mean as far as
being a lunatic running around, youknow and stuff like that, we do
this, you know, and we'revery serious about it. Yeah. Well,
as you you mentioned history there,and of course that's an important issue
with me. Other also, howdo you see history connecting with your paranormal
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work? How do they how dothey work together? In your opinion?
Well, like when I'm doing research, the just eplominary stuff, I'll go
I go back to as far asI can and see what I can find,
and I just want to know whathappened on that property or that house
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or you know, ages of itcould have been you know, from the
fifteen hundred. Something could have happened, and then it's been made you know
active now today for some reason,and it just kind of brings the stories
together for me. Okay, Ron, how about you? What's what's your
goal here? What's your purpose fordoing this? My purpose is like hers,
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but I like evidence, you know, so that's where the science comes
in. You know, the meters, the tape recorders, the cameras,
you know, the digital recorders anddigital meters, if you can get them
to all correlate to me, Ihave something, okay, you know if
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they're all times, because all ofour equipment basically has sim cards, you
know, and put them in acomputer, and we know exactly when this
happened, that happened. And youknow, I use the EDI plus.
Do you use that piece of equipmentat all? The ed I plus?
I use it for exactly what youdescribed now. You mentioned evidence though in
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the importance of it. What doyou do with that evidence once you get
it, when you've picked it upduring an investigation, you've examined it,
what do you do with it?Then? If it's a homeowner, we
take it to him, you know, a few weeks after after we go
through everything and we explained to himwhat we found or what we didn't find,
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you know. And there's some caseswe don't find anything, and there's
some cases we find high EMFs.And I did a case not too long
ago where it was all high EMFs. It was a veteran. He had
a nice little studio condo and hewas going crazy and they were going to
put him on pills and what washe saying? What was the experiencing?
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The bottom of his bed sheets lookedlike there was an animal underneath it.
His clothes would sway back and forthin the closet. He could see all
this from his bed. It's alittle studio. And when he looked into
the bathroom, he asked clothes hangingand he could see the clothes in the
wall like a wave, and hisTV went up. Yeah, yeah,
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in the TV off and on.So you investigated, you found a high
amount of EMFs in there. Whatdid you end up turning happen? Uh?
Well, the headboard was, youknow, forty ms very high where
his head was laying, and therewas an outlet down below. I took
the outlet cover off. I lookedat it and I said, oh my
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god, this wiring is as oldas the building. And the building was
built in the twenties. Oh myyeah, one of the oldest condos still
on the Burnington River. Yeah.But the condo agreed to fix the problem.
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But what was your conclusion? Whatwas your conclusion on that case?
Because I think that'sclusion was he washallucinating. He was hallucinating. I kept
the camera on him all night untilthe next morning. I told him,
just hit the button shut it off, and he said he saw his bed
sheets. You know the bottom ofhim moving, and I said, there's
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nothing on camera. I said,you're hallucinating. Well for folks, for
folks that aren't haven't done a lotof investigating explain how those high EMF readings
affected what he was seeing. Thehigh EMFs you can look it up,
you can google it. It hasa number of effects, and hallucinating is
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one of them. It messes withyour mind, you know, just like
these big towers they're putting up everywhereand they say, be careful, you
know, these five G towers andwhat have you if you don't live near
you know, they say, that'sso he was living in a fear cage.
Basically, the ems are causing himto hallucinate that It's been proven that
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that high readings will create people.They'll feel paranoid, they'll see things like
experiencing headaches. So that is Iget the headaches when I myth area.
But see, I think that isa great example of how your work has
actually helped some. He understood whatyou explained it to him. He's very
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very smart gentleman. You know,he's a vet. He's comfortable where he
lives. He was actually relieved.Yeah, he was relieved. You know,
and once it's been about three months, I'm sure they started working on
the problems because they said that hedid they did something to the outlets,
and they were going to do somethingwith this one wall that were it was
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one hundred and thirty seven and Itraced that wire with my digital all the
way back to the fuse box.But the important point here, I think
is you debunked it. You solvedthis problems and it was nothing to do
with the paranormal. And I thinkthat that whole issue gets forgotten about sometimes
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by teams that are so interested infinding something that they don't look at the
obvious natural or man made causes.So, you know, I applaud you
for that, But what do youdo with your evidence? Just so you
collected the evidence on a case,whether you've gotten something or you haven't gotten
something, do you keep the evidence, do you maintain it? Do you
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compare it with other cases at all? We keep the evidence. We give
a copy of the evidence to eitherthe homeowner or the business or whoever,
whatever place, even if it's apublic place, we still give them a
copy of it. And we alwayscompare like, oh wait a minute,
this looks familiar and we'll go backand look through to see if it's happened
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to us before you stored it onyour computers or keep it. Yeah.
Yeah, and we we always getpermission, yeah, you know, we
never we never go into a placewithout getting permission. They have to sign
a release for let us put iton. So what do you tell folks
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that you can do for them whenthey when they they could they come to
you and they say, I've gota problem, like the refer I gave
to you, I've got a problem. Can you help me? What do
you tell them you can or youcannot do for them? Well, usually
I talked to them and find outwhat's going on, and we'll get with
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them and see have them walk usthrough the house and see where the hot
spots are. At the same time, we're carrying the E MF meter to
see if there's any high readings,so we know where the high spots are,
and so we do that. Wetalk to them and then I will
say we can do an investigation tofind out if there is something here and
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who it might be. We canoffer to do a cleansing after or before
if you don't want the investigation,but if it's something that's out of our
realm of doing anything. We bringin a shaman and he works with the
house and the people and does whateverhe can to get rid of it.
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Do you do the cleansing to yourself? Yes, yeah, we'll do.
How do you where did you getthe training to do that? Because a
lot of folks, a lot offolks do it, but they've watched it
on YouTube. Yeah, and thatworries me a little bit. No,
Well, I was trained by somebodythat's a Wigan okay, and she's actually
one of our team members. Soher and her, you know, it
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runs in her family for generations,so she, you know, her and
I usually do it together when wedo a cleansing. Okay. Interesting,
So, as you were talking aboutthe history and the houses before and finding
out what happened on the land,how often do you think that the manifestations
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we'll just assume at this point you'venot been able to debunk them. How
often do you find that the issuesare with the land and not the structure
itself? Maybe half and half,depending on where we're at. I mean,
if it's not the country, likewe've done some on the country,
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and that definitely was land because therewas an Indian burial ground and they built
the house on top of it,and yeah, so that was definitely you
know, things like that. It'sharder when you get into cities unless you
can really get some background research onwhat happened around there. But we try
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to do our best, if youknow, Like I said, I have
the woman that you know work forthe FBI. She does a mile radius
research for you know, as farback as she could go, and so
we have something to go with,you know, and we try to keep
it to ourselves. Or I don'teven tell Ron half the time what the
reply, and I don't even alwaysread the report. I just wait till
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we get done and compare what herreport is to what we found and to
see if anything matches up. Doyou ever run to ask you this question?
Do you guys ever share with yourteammates what activity is going on in
the house or do you share withhim anything about the history of the house,
like who owned it when it wasbuilt, things like that? Do
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you share that Brandon and Jamie yes, But Jim and Pam no, because
they're the real Jim's the real sensitive. We don't tell him anything and we
don't he doesn't come on all ofour investigations. You know what, why
don't you tell him? Because Iwant to see I want to compare error.
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He doesn't want to know. Hedoesn't want to know. He wants
to be able to walk into aplace and like we say, cold Turkey
and not know a thing about theplace and see what he picks up to
see if it matches up with thehistory of the place. It kind of
goes. It kind of goes withlike using the equipment, you know,
like we have a tape recorder,we have the video camera, and we
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have two K two's all on onebar. So if we catch something on
the video camera and we might catchit on the tape recorder, you know,
so it gives you back up.And that's what he likes to do,
is just to be able to backup what the history says by what
he picks up on his own withoutknowing anything. Now, when he goes
through, does he stop and say, oh, I see somebody in that
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corner, Oh I feel somebody upthere on the stairwell, or does he
keep it to himself and just maybetell you he goes he goes through,
We let him go through by himself. First, Yeah, he goes off
by itself and he walked, doesa walk through. Then he comes back
and gets me and says, comewith me, you know, And I
go with him and he says,do you pick anything that you feel?
Anything? You know? And that'swell, We're about to take our next
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break. This the hours going quick, so folks, stay with us.
We got more to talk about onParanormal steakeout with my guest tonight. Ron
and Liz read, so stay withus. Will be back after these messages.
Welcome back, and my guests Ronand Liz read. Interesting conversation.
I do want to go back toour last conversation just for a quick second.
Here, mediums, the medium,the sensitive that you use. How
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do you think he does it?Do you have a theory or or a
thought on how they're able to doit? Jim, I think has been
trained through everything that he's been through. That's what he did. And he
was the remote viewer. Yes,okay, you're a very quiet guy.
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Again, like the lady who doesour research. He's not on Facebook,
he's not anything else. He's notsupposed to be. You found us on
our page and just said I wasbrought to you and that's how we met
him. Okay, well there's onceagain. We were talking about the power
of the mind earlier in the show. The remote viewing angle is incredibly interesting
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to me because it's not like that'sjust somebody came up with that idea.
There's actually studies that have been donea hell heck, our government has done
it for generation decades. Rather sointeresting. Nonetheless, I had a problem
with mediums early on. There's agentleman, particularly that I work with a
lot that has kind of really changedmy view on mediums. And it has
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also intrigued me and made me moreinterested in what the power of the brain
can do. And so that's all. That's fascinating. But let's head down
another little path here. I'm interestedin what you think where you think the
world of paranorl research and investigation areheading. Where are we at? Where
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are we going? What are someof the pitfalls you see out there waiting
for us? The TV shows arethe pitfalls? Yeah? TV shows,
it's nothing like what this is true. Like thirteen years ago when our fourteen
almost now, when Liz and Istarted, there wasn't too many people that
were into this. Now you canbuy everything on Amazon. You can buy
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everything on you know, a Yeah, everybody's got a piece of equipment.
They even bring it to Lizen's ghostWalk. How often do you think these
people really understand the theories behind thesepieces of equipment and how they actually work.
How often do you think they're actuallynot? Very often? Now I
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have to I had a twelve yearold the other night that for Christmas,
he got the ghost Walk and hegot equipment. He got a spirit box,
he got a rempod, he gota tape recorder, he got a
K two. Now that's a lotof equipment for a twelve year old.
It's a lot of equipment for themoney. Yeah, and he did not
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know how to do anything with it. He just opened it up that day
was playing around with it. Sowe played with it a little bit,
But I told his parents I wanthim to know how to use this correctly.
So would you mind if some ofour team members and I come over
take him to they live out closeto a cemetery and just take him in
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there during the day with you andshow him how the equipment works so that
he understands it and can operate itcorrectly, you know, and not get
excited, you know. About somethingthat may be there and may not be
there, you know, or Ijust I just want them to understand how
it actually does work on go ahead, n You know another thing, you
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know, several times a year wegive lectures at the local libraries and we
get like thirty five people every everynight we're there, you know, and
they want to know how to usethe equipment. They want to they want
to know more about it. Sothere's a whole lot of people getting into
this. Well, then then whatdo we do to solve this issue?
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Now? I have a particular theorythere. There's there's some of us and
and all sides of it are fine. But there's some people that just want
to do it for the thrill ofthe moment, and there are other folks
that want to do it for thevalue of the research of that trying to
find the answers. Yeah, Sohow do we get folks to understand first
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of all, the side of thefence they're on, and how seriously they
need to take the equipment, thetraining, that's the basic word. How
do we get folks trained? Well, well, we take them trying train
people, we don't you know,you have to go through three months of
training before we'll even think about allowingyou to be working with our team,
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because I want to make sure thatif we're on an investigation and I hand
you a piece of equipment because I'vegot something going on, I want you
to know how to use that pieceof equipment. We've trained. You don't
know how to do that, youknow, and I want them to understand
that you don't whisper when you're doinginvestigations, you know, things like that.
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My main thing is is please don'tever take a tape recorder to the
bathroom and leave it recording. Wehad that happen twice, so you know,
I just want to really, youknow, really think about what they're
doing and learn the equipment before wecan say, okay, you're going to
work with our team or you knowa lot of people think it's just you
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go out there, you do something, and that's it. Right, Well,
how do you How did you trainthem on the philosophies and the theories
behind the equipment, for example,the spirit box, why that's supposed to
work and what? Okay, yeah, we did our first Our first part
is when we have a meeting andthey'll come and I'll have all equipment out
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and I'll show them this is whatyou have to learn from the tripods to
the cords, going to the DVRto the cameras. You got to know
everything. Now where are that Yougot to know what box they're in.
You know that's they got to havea focused mind when you do an investigation.
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Well, I'll ask this question ofyou, Ron. We're really kind
of using the same equipment we've beenfor the last fifteen twenty years. The
equipment is all pretty much the same. What's it going to take to get
to the next level? Now?I firmly believe that there can be next
level. I mean people back inthe eighteenth century never thought we'd go to
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the moon because we didn't have theknowledge and the technology. Then well now
we do, so I think thatthe possibility exists to evolve. But how
are we going to do that?And what's it going to take to get
to the next level. We're usingthe same equipment that we used fifteen years
ago. I know, it's differentstyles. There's so many different styles.
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Yeah, it's all different styles.Well, if you had let me ask
you this question, then if youhad the ability to create a piece of
equipment to prove or disprove a particulartheory in the field, what would you
pick, what would you develop somethingwith the voice voice box or digital recorder
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to pick them up? Yeah,because nobody really knows how those voices get
there, right, Yeah, okay, And you can always catch something on
camera and you know, people willsay, oh, that's photoshop, you
know. Yeah, Well that isa problem today, isn't it, Because
they've gotten so good with that andit's getting harder and harder. Now we've
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got AI becoming a part of everything. How long is it going to be
before nothing is being able to provebe able to prove, be proved or
disproved. And I think that isa huge concern which leads me down the
next road. There's a lot offolks out there, and I personally have
a bugaboo with folks that say theycan do something and they can't, or
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maybe they think they can do somethingthat they really aren't able to. Maybe
they're hearts in the right place,but they really aren't trained, or they're
just charlatan's. Have you folks experiencedfor individuals in the field that have gone
out and have tried to pull thewool over people's eyes? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, weeven had had him in our group.
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We've been through so many members,you know, the thirteen years until
just a couple of years ago,and we really like this, you know,
they just they were out of thisworld, you know. You know,
you've got rules you have to goby. But I mean out there,
we've had some groups we've you know, because I love working with other
groups because we each can learn somethingfrom each other. There's always a technique
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that you do that we don't andthe same thing you know that we do,
and you know, so we canalways learn something. But there are
a couple of groups out there thatwe've had issues with. One actually in
particular, actually told us the nameof the group and everything, and it
turned out they stole the name,and you know, it caused us issues.
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But we had nothing to do.We didn't know it, you know.
But and then there's the ones thatsay, oh, yeah, you
know, I'm sensitive, I cancome in, I can do anything.
I found that if you have towalk up to me immediately come out of
your mouth and say I'm sensitive,I want to work with your group,
I kind of back off because Ifind that most people that truly are sensitive
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do not walk up to you rightoff the bat and say that. They
kind of keep it back. Idon't tell anybody, you know, when
I go to a place, Ido not tell them anything. I don't
say anything. I don't let anybody, you know, anybody know who's sensitive
in the group, who's what youknow? And I just I find that
people I don't know. Some somewant to be on TV for this,
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you know, so they call us, you know, for different investigations,
and some, you know, justget a little crazy when they do their
investigating, you know. And andthen, like I said before, it's
not like TV at all. Youknow. I've sat many a night's for
hours nothing going on. Well,and and that's an analogy. I use
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paranormal investigations or like a police stakeout, and that's something I can actually discuss
intelligently. And loads of the timesthey're boring, boring, Yeah, boring,
boring, boring. Do you guyscharge for your investigations? No?
Not even Okay, what are yourphilosophies on that? Why don't you charge?
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Because that that seems to be aa new thing that's starting to crop
up amongst some groups. Yeah,I see that that some people are charging
I always felt that if you werea true paranormal group, you didn't charge
because you were out there trying tohelp the people. It wasn't a job.
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It's something to help, you know, somebody, you know, And
I don't you know, I wouldn'tcharge somebody for that. So that's our
philosophy is we are there to helpthem, not to make money, you
know, and we're there for thescience. Yeah, you know, just
especially brand and Brandon is really tigon science. Yeah, I just I
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don't just don't believe in charging forsomething like that. Now, they can
donate if they want, but no, we don't charge at all. You
encourage donations and we just tell themthat if you want and you can afford
to, you can do donate.You know, we don't force you to,
you know. You know, mostpeople are at least a little bit
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generous, you know, because theyknow we have to buy the equipment and
batteries. Of course, batteries.We go through a lot of batteries.
Oh, I'll tell you there's gettingmore expensive all the time. For that.
I'm of the belief that any anyinvestigative team worth their salt, for
the reasons you've described, would nevercharge for an investigation. So I so,
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what is the very briefly, inabout thirty seconds, the most egregious
thing you've seen happen out there involvingteams without using any names of course,
that's yeah, that's okay, okay. Segrading cemeteries and going into places without
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permission, Yeah, don't do that, Folks, always get permission. Trustpassing
is a crime. Well, we'reabout ready to take our last break,
folks. And when we get back, Liz, I want to hear about
your book, and I want tohear about the Ghostwalks and Bradenton. So
folks, stay with us as wefind out about the ghosts of braidenton be
back after these messages and welcome back, folks, and my guest tonight,
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Ron and Liz Reid want to tellyou a couple things before we get on
with the show. Check me outagain at Indian Riverhuntings dot com or Paranormal
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Guy at Paranormal steakout dot org.You can get a hold of me there.
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But you guys are watching the showfor a reason. You're watching it
because you're interested in what's going onin this world and all the things that
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this, go to X zone Radioand TV dot com at all the terrific
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programming that's there. Uh, youwill not be disappointed. So I'd encourage
you to go ahead and do that. Getting back to us, how can
we find you, guys, Ron, How can we find your team?
You can find us at Paranormal Societyof Bradington or p s o b f
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L at okay dot com. Youthe wrong one? Yeah, okay,
Well I was trying to get himin on it too. Yeah, it's
a ps ob f L at gmaildot com if you want to check out
the But Liz, you're a writerand you've written a book involving about the
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area that you're in, Manite Florida, Manite County, Florida. Tell us
about the book. Well, Iwas contacted about writing and I just started
doing research and that's how I'd endedup getting to the ghost too. Was
I was working with the History Libraryfor the book, and I thought,
well, this is pretty cool,you know. And once I started researching,
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and then I went all the wayaround asking stories and all that and
just gathered them up. And thenthere's some of our from our investigations that
are in there too, you know. But yeah, I just look through
the history. So in your book, tell us about some of the more
compelling stories in Bradenton, Florida.And for those folks that don't know where
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Brington is, where's it located onthe for an hour south of Tampa,
Okay, so being the west coastof Florida and the Gulf of Mexico.
You know. So tell us tellus some some good stories out of the
book. Well, there's a lotof them. Let's see which one that
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Hampton in Yeah, the Hampton Inn. It's a hotel that's downtown. It
doesn't like to be known that it'shaunted, but everybody knows it's haunted.
There are some I could stand thereall night and talk about the place.
It's got that many ghost stories.I mean, there's a lady in white
that wants the fourth and seventh floor. There's a little girl that they actually
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call Annabelle, as a joke thatit messes with the building. And she's
been there since the building was built, and that was in twenty five and
it's been a nursing home at onepoint. Then they had issues. There's
always they can always hear a bandup on the very top of the building
plane and people laughing and partying.Well, that doesn't go on nowadays.
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And even when it was the retirementhome, it didn't go on. It
only went when it was prohibition duringthe hotel at the Hotel Time d'ur in
the twenties. So that still goeson today, you know. And the
little girl likes to mess with youwhen you're in the elevator, you know,
so open and close the doors andwon't let you go to different areas.
There's a gentleman that walks in thelobby at two four and six am,
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jingling keys and whistling. There's justa whole lot of things that happened
in that building. So you'd recommendthat hotel for anybody. Yeah, And
I always tell everybody you go,you call me, I'll bring the equipment.
So all the stories there, what'syour favorite story in the book,
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Yeah, an he's well, yeah, we did do a story about Baker's
husband that had passed away, andClaire as a bell on the voice box.
She went in the house and broughtout a glass and handed it to
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Ron and I said, Carl,can you tell us what Ron is holding?
And out clear as a bell,it comes out says it's a glass.
It was his glass that he hadhis scotch and every night, and
that's and so that was pretty coolthat he was telling us that that's that's
his glass. Yeah, you know, so they actually got that. Was
got that in the book? Ohyeah, yeah, excellent, excellent.
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So he's he was pretty active thatnight, you know. So you know,
in addition to the book, obviouslyyou just mentioned the book open the
door for you to start doing thewalks and see it's the downtown Bradenton Ghost
Walk in the Bradington Beach Ghost Walk. So you do two of them?
How often do you do them?I do him when Tuesday through Saturday,
when anybody calls them buy his tickets, we go, you know, okay,
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so it's on demand. Yeah,and uh, like I said,
I just did one with the twelveyear old the other night, which I
had a blast with, you know, and I do not make them scary
because I like kids to be ableto come and a lot of times I'll
have parents that'll bring their kids andsay, you know, and they're always
talking about imaginary friends. So Ithought this might be fun for them.
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I always tell them, don't don'talways think they're imaginary. They might be
real. You know. That's onesola common theory out through the youngsters whose
mind are cluttered with the world aroundus, can see a whole lot more
than that we can't. So yeah, so why do you do the walks?
I know you got interested for researchingthe book, but what's your your
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motive to First off, that helpspay for equipment and batteries. That helps
term So that's so that's the why, you know, we don't have to
charge or anything, you know.And the other thing is is I want
because on my walk, I givethem a K two to work with in
a couple of spots and let themcommunicate with the spirits. I want them
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to get a taste of what it'sreally like of what we do, so
that they understand more of how it'sdone, you know, done on the
investigation and things like that. Andthen I like just to tell them about
you know the area. There's alot of people that come that you know,
live in Bradington that don't know alot of the underground history of Bradington.
So I find it funny when I'mtelling them something and they're like,
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what, I've lived here all mylife, you didn't know that. Yeah,
there's there's some satisfaction of that.I can understand that. How how
often do folks experience things on yourtours? Usually every night downtown, downtown,
every night. The beach one Ihave I'd love to take you on
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that as being a retired officer,because I have one that is the spirit,
that is she actually was supposedly committedsuicide. But there's so much that's
come out that her mother paid forprivate investigations, Like she has the imprint
of a wicker chair on her butt, But how could she hang herself from
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the shower head and stead on thatchair after she's dead to get that imprint?
You know, that's there's different thingsand and it's really amazing because when
we get to her spot, I'llI'll say, Sheena, we're here tonight.
You know, I send everything toyour mom and she always tells me
to tell you that she loves you, and sometimes she will take the K
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two meter and make it go offlike a heartbeat instead of just lighting up,
it will go off like a heartbeat, and it's really kind of neat.
But I mean I told her mom, I said, you know,
there is a history that a ghostfits solve their own murder. So if
this helps you, know, ye, her mom, I'll gladly give it
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to you. You know, hermom lives in Pampus. She doesn't come
down here too much. She's afraidto go over the bridge. So this
is a fairly recent murder. Thisis not an old Yeah two thousand and
one, Yeah, yeah, happened. So how you do them every day?
Do you do them all year?And how often? Yeah? How
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often? How many people do youtake out a week? I guess is
a grist that you don't have schedules? How many do you take out a
week? And have you found theother part of that question is have you
found that it's waxed or waned dependingon time of year? For interest,
school September and August September, forgetit. It's quiet because everybody's game right
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for school and stuff like that,So it's quiet, and it's quiet at
the end of season for about amonth, and then that picks back up
because then the tourists for the summercome in. It just depends. Sometimes
I can do none and sometimes Ican do I've done seventy before in one
trip. I won't ever do thatagain. We have a lot of tourists
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here. Yeah, So the mostI take out in one group is twenty.
That's downtown because it's the area ofwalking on the beach, the beach
walk, I can only take sixbecause it's a very small walk area and
you have to, you know,walk through the crowds of the people on
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the beach, you know, onthe streets and stuff. So it's kind
of hard. How how long arethe tours there? I try to keep
them to an hour and a half, but sometimes when we're really getting a
lot of activity, we may justgo a little longer. Now downtown,
we just found that hot spot justrecently and we've got like six spirits they're
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talking to us down there, soit kind of makes it go just a
little bit longer now because we're allexcited about what we're trying to find out.
Who everybody is, you know,and you know where they came from.
So well, how do folks findyou find out about the walks?
How do they contact you? Well, they can google dont Brady who can
ghost walk? Or they can ParanormalSociety at WordPress dot com. Or they
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can give me a call at I'mfor one seven zero four zero six two
to one, and that's you know, they can book a ghost walk and
they can you know, buy ticketsonline and you know, just have some
fun and do people come away witha better understanding of the history of Bringon
and where it came from. Iactually had a gentleman not too long ago
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that said, I don't believe ghosts. I don't believe in any of this,
but I have nothing else to do. I'm staying at the Hampton End
and I want something to do,so just I'm just coming for the history.
We did. The whole tour gotdone. And he said, I'll
tell you this right now, I'mno longer a skeptic. And I said,
okay, you know, so,I mean you know that some come
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for the history, some come forthe ghosts, some come for it all.
You know, it's just they werejust to have fun with their friends,
you know it just so it's allkind of I'm sure you know that
too. You know, they allcome in different ways that they do.
How does how do the tours helpyou with your investigations? How do they
enhance it? Do they have anyeffect on it? Oh? Well,
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we get more. We get moreinvestigations because people will start saying things like,
oh, we on this ghost walk, you should see talk to these
people about your issue, and thenthey'll call us. You know, they're
friends, So we get a lotmore. We do find that there are
a couple of places down there thatwe have one woman that she considers herself
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a witch, but she's not.She's more of a shalman from back in
the day, and she travels arounddowntown. So we may be stopping at
one stop and she'll be there,and then the next stop she might be
there again. Or we might bedoing an investigation in a building and she
might show up there. So Ijust you know, they all kind of
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wander around. You know. Well, folks, if you go to Braid,
if you go to Bradenton, Irecommend you do you check them out.
Just google Bradenton Ghostwalks and get ahold of Lizen ron Ron. Did
you have something else you want toadd? Well, you know, there's
a lot of history here. Bradingtonwas founded in the eighteen hundreds, so
yeah, there's a lot of historyin Florida that people just don't realize.
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And folks, unfortunately we're out oftime. So I want to thank you
very much for being with us.Thank you so much for sharing, and
folks, enjoy the holidays. Newyear is coming. Let's make it a
good year. Let's make it positive, pray for peace, and be a
good example to others to help perpetuatepeace and goodwill towards others. So I
wish you all happy New Year.I hope you had a great holiday.
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Hug your family, give those kidsa big kiss, and until we get
together again, I'll see you onthe other side. Have a good night. Books
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we're going to do tonight, someof the folks that are in the field
doing the legwork when it comes toparanormal research and investigation. Tonight I have
Ron and Liz Reid. They ownown the op Right and pet Up Paranormal
Society of Bradenton and Bradenton, Florida. That's on the other side of the
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state for me. Ron grew upin Indiana and has had many childhood experiences
involving the paranormal. Liz grew upin Minnesota and she herself lived in a
haunted house and about fourteen years agothey decided to expand their horizons and begin
investigating the paranormal and form their ownteam, Paranormal Society of Bradenton. Liz
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is also a staff writer for BradentonMagazine in Bradenton, Florida. She is
the author of Haunted Manatee and That'stalking about the haunts and Manatee County,
Florida. She also runs the DowntownBradenton Ghostwalk and Braiddon Beach Ghost walk.
So with that, i'd like tointroduce my guests to you, Ron and
Liz Reid. Welcome to the show. Guys, glad to have you on.
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We're gonna like to start off withyou, Liz. Ladies, first
tell us a little bit about howyou became involved in the field, became
interested in the paranormal and began investigatinghow did you get there? From all
in Vennesuota. It started when Ihave six and we moved into the house
that we lived in, and everynight I would have a male presence right
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there. I could always couldn't seehim, but I could always feel him,
and eventually he ended up sitting onmy bed every night. You could
actually see the indentation and you couldn'tmove your legs. And then one night
he made an appearance and I sawwho he was, and I did some
research as I got older and foundout he was the owner of the house
that built it. His wife haddied, and then he committed suicide because
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he wanted to be with her.So, as you know, I always
always had a fascination for cemeteries,and I'd always go there and read books
and have my quiet time there.But the more I got the more I
just got you know, what happensto you after death. So the more
I thought about it, the moreI wanted to do some you know,
investigating on my own, to dothings to find out what people were saying
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is true or not. You know, I wanted my own opinion. So
did you do Did you investigate itall prior to getting married to Ron?
Or did you a little bit onthat house that we lived in? That's
pretty much? Yeah? And uhRon, tell us how you became interested
in the field. It started whenI was young, I would say,
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you know, six seven, Ihad my first experience, But my most
one that I remember is walking fromthe back of my house to my mom
and dad's business, which was downthe alley a little ways, and I
passed this house and I knew itwas empty, and I looked through the
window and my dog was with metoo, and there was someone in the
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basement and they were scrubbing out backthen they had scrub boards, you know,
and a sink, and they weredoing that, and I knew it
was empty, but I ran around. I went to the basement door,
opened it up, and there wasnobody there. That was my first and
I had a lot of experiences likethat. They were just short, you
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know, one time things. Howold were you when the first incident happened?
I was I was actually seven thenmaybe eight. The very first incidents
when I was very young, andthat was a I got a I had
a play telephone and it rang.I picked it up and there was somebody
on it and it was my dadand my dad had just died. And
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he told me to go outside,and I did, and my dog followed
with me and he took care ofme. You know, my dog did,
and my brothers and sisters. Iwas the youngest. They all came
and got me and brought me backinto the house. Oh that's pretty significant.
So you were young when your fatherpassed. That's yeah. I was
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significant experience. So I know,Liz is a writer. What do you
do me? I'm retired and I'mretired and I hunt ghost. Oh there
you go. What did you dobefore you retired? I worked at a
steel mill US still it's now USnext and Ino South Chicago and Gary,
Indiana. Okay, Well, sofourteen years ago, you guys decided you
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wanted to kind of solidify what youwere doing, uh, and you formed
a team tell it. Tell meabout your team. Well, we have
five active team members besides ourselves,and then we have other team members that
can come in and out when youknow they're available. We are like a
little family. We try to makeit a little family. Each of us
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has a specialty. Our tech guyis perfect and you know, analyzing and
debunking things. We have somebody that'ssensitive that does sciances for us. He's
real good. We have two thatlead investigators that are really good. And
then there's Ron and I. Itused to be just me and her,
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and then other people really wanted toget into it. We went through a
lot of people. The team wehave now we've had for several years.
So Ron, do you have aspecialty yourself or an area that you investigate
specifically yourself? I take care ofthe equipment, all equipments at our house.
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I take care of it. Ihelped set it up. I may
I stay at the base, youknow, and watch the monitors. I
do have a disability now, soLiz and my team are the investigators.
I just do the monitor team andletting them know what I see. If
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I see something, you do theheavy lifting, I got, I got,
Yeah, I don't do any ofthe heavy lifting. So, Liz,
do you have a special to yourselfthat the team. Yeah, I
couldn't feel the spirits when I walkinto place, and sometimes I hear them.
Yeah, okay, and so you'reyou're sensitive. Yeah. And when
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James are sands guy and I gettogether, you have to watch out because
him and I can stare at arampod and actually lift the rampod up or
move it back and forth to eachother. You actually physically lifted the rampod
to each other. Yea off theground, got about half an inch off
the ground. And then after thatthen we just I'd look at it and
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he'd look at it, and we'dstare at it and would just go back
and forth like I'd send it tohim, he'd send it back. Never
caught any of that on camera.No, our camera guy screwed up that
night. By time I was lowupset, Well, somebody actually walked in
front of the camera the first thestationary camera. Someone was standing in front
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of the camera guy. Because wehave another camera that we use, you
know, night vision camera. Heforgot to turn on the IR like,
so there was you really haven't seenuhing because it was dark well, and
that's the way it always seems togo. Things happened when they occur.
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Have you ever get have you everwanted to recreate that? That would be
a very amazing experiment. Yeah.So when those two get together, it
happens all the time with different items, you know. Yeah, yeah,
I like to be doing things likethat together. It's kind of cool to
see what we can do. Youknow. Well, I think that that
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says a lot about one of thetheories that I work with, and that's
the power of the human mind.I mean, there's been so many experiments
and things that have happened. UriGeller. I don't know if you remember
Uri Geller used to back in theseventies. He was famous for bending spoons
and things like that. But butyou know, the power of the mind
is still is still not researched enough, but we don't know what it can
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do. I would really encourage youto set up a specific investigation, or
during an investigation, actually film that, because I think that would be very
powerful for the world to say,oh, yeah, we've been trying to
catch it. Yeah, you shouldsee the video in the seance we did
at our house here with him.The door actually closed. Actually, he
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asked the good spirits to come andthe bad spirits to leave, and our
garage door going to the into thegarage from our porch opened up when he
asked him to come in, andslam shot when he asked him to leave.
Did you got that on film?That? Oh? Yeah, that's
that's not our Facebook page. Verygood. What about the backgrounds of the
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rest of your team do they have? I mean, I've got a lot
of public safety folks on my team, for example. What kind of folks
are on your team? What aretheir backgrounds? Well, our researcher that
she does no investigating, she justdoes research. She's retired from the FBI.
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Jim the gentleman that's so sensitive.He's worked with the CIA and helping
solve murders and things like that,and he's just you know, different things
he's done with them. And thenPam and Jamie, you know, they
just are normal, you know,everyday job type things. And Brandon,
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our tech guy, is a marinebiologist, so he's got a science background.
Yes, I think that. Ithink that's always helpful. Now,
your FBI person, were they aspecial agent? Were they investigator or the
supper will tell us she just says, I cannot do anything on Facebook or
anything like that. And I've seena lot of things that have been horrible
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in my life. Interesting interesting Andthe CIA person helping solve murders, I
find that interesting too because he isalso remote viewing. He was in two
he was in two wars. Hewas in Iraq and Iran with the CIA
as a airborne ranger. And uh, yeah, and he's retired. He's
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you know, he's my age.He's sorry, he's retired. Yeah,
Well, very interesting. So you'vegot you've got an interesting mix of folks
and and it's it's nice to havea group that actually can come together and
stay together. I know that myteam, the team I have right now,
has been together for a number ofyears, and that certainly is helpful.
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Well, uh, believe it ornot, folks, And this time,
this stuff goes quickly. We're aboutready to come up on our first
break. So when we come back, I'd like to talk to you a
little bit about your goals and yourpurpose, what you're trying to do as
investigators. So uh, think aboutthat, and folks, stay with us.
Uh, we're already take our firstbreak, but stay with us.
We'll be back right after these messagewith Liz and Ron Reid from Paranormal Society
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of Bradenton, Florida. So we'llbe back right after these messages. We
are back on paranormal stakeout with myguest to night, Liz and run,
Liz and run lead read right forththere, Sorry about that. So tell
me, folks, why do youdo this? What? What is your
goal? What is your purpose?What is your end game in doing what
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you do? Well? I lovehistory, and whenever I look in history,
there's always some story, some legends, something, so it leads me
to something, you know, SoI just keep That's I guess that's why
I do my writing, is becauseit just keeps going with me. But
I just like to just find outwhat really happens to us. That's all
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I really, you know, wantto know. I want to see prove
it to myself. You know thatthere is life after death. You know,
we're all made of energy, Sowhere does the energy go to?
And that's you know what I'm tryingto do with mine. And I just
want people to understand that we're notcrazy. You know, you know,
some people do think we're crazy.I'm crazy, but well I mean,
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yeah, we're all crazy in thisworld, but I mean as far as
being a lunatic running around, youknow and stuff like that, we do
this, you know, and we'revery serious about it. Yeah. Well,
as you you mentioned history there,and of course that's an important issue
with me. Other also, howdo you see history connecting with your paranormal
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work? How do they how dothey work together? In your opinion?
Well, like when I'm doing research, the just eplominary stuff, I'll go
I go back to as far asI can and see what I can find,
and I just want to know whathappened on that property or that house
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or you know, ages of itcould have been you know, from the
fifteen hundred. Something could have happened, and then it's been made you know
active now today for some reason,and it just kind of brings the stories
together for me. Okay, Ron, how about you? What's what's your
goal here? What's your purpose fordoing this? My purpose is like hers,
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but I like evidence, you know, so that's where the science comes
in. You know, the meters, the tape recorders, the cameras,
you know, the digital recorders anddigital meters, if you can get them
to all correlate to me, Ihave something, okay, you know if
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they're all times, because all ofour equipment basically has sim cards, you
know, and put them in acomputer, and we know exactly when this
happened, that happened. And youknow, I use the EDI plus.
Do you use that piece of equipmentat all? The ed I plus?
I use it for exactly what youdescribed now. You mentioned evidence though in
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the importance of it. What doyou do with that evidence once you get
it, when you've picked it upduring an investigation, you've examined it,
what do you do with it?Then? If it's a homeowner, we
take it to him, you know, a few weeks after after we go
through everything and we explained to himwhat we found or what we didn't find,
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you know. And there's some caseswe don't find anything, and there's
some cases we find high EMFs.And I did a case not too long
ago where it was all high EMFs. It was a veteran. He had
a nice little studio condo and hewas going crazy and they were going to
put him on pills and what washe saying? What was the experiencing?
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The bottom of his bed sheets lookedlike there was an animal underneath it.
His clothes would sway back and forthin the closet. He could see all
this from his bed. It's alittle studio. And when he looked into
the bathroom, he asked clothes hangingand he could see the clothes in the
wall like a wave, and hisTV went up. Yeah, yeah,
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in the TV off and on.So you investigated, you found a high
amount of EMFs in there. Whatdid you end up turning happen? Uh?
Well, the headboard was, youknow, forty ms very high where
his head was laying, and therewas an outlet down below. I took
the outlet cover off. I lookedat it and I said, oh my
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god, this wiring is as oldas the building. And the building was
built in the twenties. Oh myyeah, one of the oldest condos still
on the Burnington River. Yeah.But the condo agreed to fix the problem.
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But what was your conclusion? Whatwas your conclusion on that case?
Because I think that'sclusion was he washallucinating. He was hallucinating. I kept
the camera on him all night untilthe next morning. I told him,
just hit the button shut it off, and he said he saw his bed
sheets. You know the bottom ofhim moving, and I said, there's
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nothing on camera. I said,you're hallucinating. Well for folks, for
folks that aren't haven't done a lotof investigating explain how those high EMF readings
affected what he was seeing. Thehigh EMFs you can look it up,
you can google it. It hasa number of effects, and hallucinating is
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one of them. It messes withyour mind, you know, just like
these big towers they're putting up everywhereand they say, be careful, you
know, these five G towers andwhat have you if you don't live near
you know, they say, that'sso he was living in a fear cage.
Basically, the ems are causing himto hallucinate that It's been proven that
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that high readings will create people.They'll feel paranoid, they'll see things like
experiencing headaches. So that is Iget the headaches when I myth area.
But see, I think that isa great example of how your work has
actually helped some. He understood whatyou explained it to him. He's very
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very smart gentleman. You know,he's a vet. He's comfortable where he
lives. He was actually relieved.Yeah, he was relieved. You know,
and once it's been about three months, I'm sure they started working on
the problems because they said that hedid they did something to the outlets,
and they were going to do somethingwith this one wall that were it was
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one hundred and thirty seven and Itraced that wire with my digital all the
way back to the fuse box.But the important point here, I think
is you debunked it. You solvedthis problems and it was nothing to do
with the paranormal. And I thinkthat that whole issue gets forgotten about sometimes
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by teams that are so interested infinding something that they don't look at the
obvious natural or man made causes.So, you know, I applaud you
for that, But what do youdo with your evidence? Just so you
collected the evidence on a case,whether you've gotten something or you haven't gotten
something, do you keep the evidence, do you maintain it? Do you
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compare it with other cases at all? We keep the evidence. We give
a copy of the evidence to eitherthe homeowner or the business or whoever,
whatever place, even if it's apublic place, we still give them a
copy of it. And we alwayscompare like, oh wait a minute,
this looks familiar and we'll go backand look through to see if it's happened
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to us before you stored it onyour computers or keep it. Yeah.
Yeah, and we we always getpermission, yeah, you know, we
never we never go into a placewithout getting permission. They have to sign
a release for let us put iton. So what do you tell folks
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that you can do for them whenthey when they they could they come to
you and they say, I've gota problem, like the refer I gave
to you, I've got a problem. Can you help me? What do
you tell them you can or youcannot do for them? Well, usually
I talked to them and find outwhat's going on, and we'll get with
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them and see have them walk usthrough the house and see where the hot
spots are. At the same time, we're carrying the E MF meter to
see if there's any high readings,so we know where the high spots are,
and so we do that. Wetalk to them and then I will
say we can do an investigation tofind out if there is something here and
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who it might be. We canoffer to do a cleansing after or before
if you don't want the investigation,but if it's something that's out of our
realm of doing anything. We bringin a shaman and he works with the
house and the people and does whateverhe can to get rid of it.
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Do you do the cleansing to yourself? Yes, yeah, we'll do.
How do you where did you getthe training to do that? Because a
lot of folks, a lot offolks do it, but they've watched it
on YouTube. Yeah, and thatworries me a little bit. No,
Well, I was trained by somebodythat's a Wigan okay, and she's actually
one of our team members. Soher and her, you know, it
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runs in her family for generations,so she, you know, her and
I usually do it together when wedo a cleansing. Okay. Interesting,
So, as you were talking aboutthe history and the houses before and finding
out what happened on the land,how often do you think that the manifestations
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we'll just assume at this point you'venot been able to debunk them. How
often do you find that the issuesare with the land and not the structure
itself? Maybe half and half,depending on where we're at. I mean,
if it's not the country, likewe've done some on the country,
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and that definitely was land because therewas an Indian burial ground and they built
the house on top of it,and yeah, so that was definitely you
know, things like that. It'sharder when you get into cities unless you
can really get some background research onwhat happened around there. But we try
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to do our best, if youknow, Like I said, I have
the woman that you know work forthe FBI. She does a mile radius
research for you know, as farback as she could go, and so
we have something to go with,you know, and we try to keep
it to ourselves. Or I don'teven tell Ron half the time what the
reply, and I don't even alwaysread the report. I just wait till
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we get done and compare what herreport is to what we found and to
see if anything matches up. Doyou ever run to ask you this question?
Do you guys ever share with yourteammates what activity is going on in
the house or do you share withhim anything about the history of the house,
like who owned it when it wasbuilt, things like that? Do
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you share that Brandon and Jamie yes, But Jim and Pam no, because
they're the real Jim's the real sensitive. We don't tell him anything and we
don't he doesn't come on all ofour investigations. You know what, why
don't you tell him? Because Iwant to see I want to compare error.
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He doesn't want to know. Hedoesn't want to know. He wants
to be able to walk into aplace and like we say, cold Turkey
and not know a thing about theplace and see what he picks up to
see if it matches up with thehistory of the place. It kind of
goes. It kind of goes withlike using the equipment, you know,
like we have a tape recorder,we have the video camera, and we
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have two K two's all on onebar. So if we catch something on
the video camera and we might catchit on the tape recorder, you know,
so it gives you back up.And that's what he likes to do,
is just to be able to backup what the history says by what
he picks up on his own withoutknowing anything. Now, when he goes
through, does he stop and say, oh, I see somebody in that
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corner, Oh I feel somebody upthere on the stairwell, or does he
keep it to himself and just maybetell you he goes he goes through,
We let him go through by himself. First, Yeah, he goes off
by itself and he walked, doesa walk through. Then he comes back
and gets me and says, comewith me, you know, And I
go with him and he says,do you pick anything that you feel?
Anything? You know? And that'swell, We're about to take our next
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break. This the hours going quick, so folks, stay with us.
We got more to talk about onParanormal steakeout with my guest tonight. Ron
and Liz read, so stay withus. Will be back after these messages.
Welcome back, and my guests Ronand Liz read. Interesting conversation.
I do want to go back toour last conversation just for a quick second.
Here, mediums, the medium,the sensitive that you use. How
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do you think he does it?Do you have a theory or or a
thought on how they're able to doit? Jim, I think has been
trained through everything that he's been through. That's what he did. And he
was the remote viewer. Yes,okay, you're a very quiet guy.
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Again, like the lady who doesour research. He's not on Facebook,
he's not anything else. He's notsupposed to be. You found us on
our page and just said I wasbrought to you and that's how we met
him. Okay, well there's onceagain. We were talking about the power
of the mind earlier in the show. The remote viewing angle is incredibly interesting
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to me because it's not like that'sjust somebody came up with that idea.
There's actually studies that have been donea hell heck, our government has done
it for generation decades. Rather sointeresting. Nonetheless, I had a problem
with mediums early on. There's agentleman, particularly that I work with a
lot that has kind of really changedmy view on mediums. And it has
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also intrigued me and made me moreinterested in what the power of the brain
can do. And so that's all. That's fascinating. But let's head down
another little path here. I'm interestedin what you think where you think the
world of paranorl research and investigation areheading. Where are we at? Where
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are we going? What are someof the pitfalls you see out there waiting
for us? The TV shows arethe pitfalls? Yeah? TV shows,
it's nothing like what this is true. Like thirteen years ago when our fourteen
almost now, when Liz and Istarted, there wasn't too many people that
were into this. Now you canbuy everything on Amazon. You can buy
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everything on you know, a Yeah, everybody's got a piece of equipment.
They even bring it to Lizen's ghostWalk. How often do you think these
people really understand the theories behind thesepieces of equipment and how they actually work.
How often do you think they're actuallynot? Very often? Now I
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have to I had a twelve yearold the other night that for Christmas,
he got the ghost Walk and hegot equipment. He got a spirit box,
he got a rempod, he gota tape recorder, he got a
K two. Now that's a lotof equipment for a twelve year old.
It's a lot of equipment for themoney. Yeah, and he did not
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know how to do anything with it. He just opened it up that day
was playing around with it. Sowe played with it a little bit,
But I told his parents I wanthim to know how to use this correctly.
So would you mind if some ofour team members and I come over
take him to they live out closeto a cemetery and just take him in
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there during the day with you andshow him how the equipment works so that
he understands it and can operate itcorrectly, you know, and not get
excited, you know. About somethingthat may be there and may not be
there, you know, or Ijust I just want them to understand how
it actually does work on go ahead, n You know another thing, you
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know, several times a year wegive lectures at the local libraries and we
get like thirty five people every everynight we're there, you know, and
they want to know how to usethe equipment. They want to they want
to know more about it. Sothere's a whole lot of people getting into
this. Well, then then whatdo we do to solve this issue?
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Now? I have a particular theorythere. There's there's some of us and
and all sides of it are fine. But there's some people that just want
to do it for the thrill ofthe moment, and there are other folks
that want to do it for thevalue of the research of that trying to
find the answers. Yeah, Sohow do we get folks to understand first
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of all, the side of thefence they're on, and how seriously they
need to take the equipment, thetraining, that's the basic word. How
do we get folks trained? Well, well, we take them trying train
people, we don't you know,you have to go through three months of
training before we'll even think about allowingyou to be working with our team,
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because I want to make sure thatif we're on an investigation and I hand
you a piece of equipment because I'vegot something going on, I want you
to know how to use that pieceof equipment. We've trained. You don't
know how to do that, youknow, and I want them to understand
that you don't whisper when you're doinginvestigations, you know, things like that.
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My main thing is is please don'tever take a tape recorder to the
bathroom and leave it recording. Wehad that happen twice, so you know,
I just want to really, youknow, really think about what they're
doing and learn the equipment before wecan say, okay, you're going to
work with our team or you knowa lot of people think it's just you
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go out there, you do something, and that's it. Right, Well,
how do you How did you trainthem on the philosophies and the theories
behind the equipment, for example,the spirit box, why that's supposed to
work and what? Okay, yeah, we did our first Our first part
is when we have a meeting andthey'll come and I'll have all equipment out
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and I'll show them this is whatyou have to learn from the tripods to
the cords, going to the DVRto the cameras. You got to know
everything. Now where are that Yougot to know what box they're in.
You know that's they got to havea focused mind when you do an investigation.
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Well, I'll ask this question ofyou, Ron. We're really kind
of using the same equipment we've beenfor the last fifteen twenty years. The
equipment is all pretty much the same. What's it going to take to get
to the next level? Now?I firmly believe that there can be next
level. I mean people back inthe eighteenth century never thought we'd go to
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the moon because we didn't have theknowledge and the technology. Then well now
we do, so I think thatthe possibility exists to evolve. But how
are we going to do that?And what's it going to take to get
to the next level. We're usingthe same equipment that we used fifteen years
ago. I know, it's differentstyles. There's so many different styles.
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Yeah, it's all different styles.Well, if you had let me ask
you this question, then if youhad the ability to create a piece of
equipment to prove or disprove a particulartheory in the field, what would you
pick, what would you develop somethingwith the voice voice box or digital recorder
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to pick them up? Yeah,because nobody really knows how those voices get
there, right, Yeah, okay, And you can always catch something on
camera and you know, people willsay, oh, that's photoshop, you
know. Yeah, Well that isa problem today, isn't it, Because
they've gotten so good with that andit's getting harder and harder. Now we've
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got AI becoming a part of everything. How long is it going to be
before nothing is being able to provebe able to prove, be proved or
disproved. And I think that isa huge concern which leads me down the
next road. There's a lot offolks out there, and I personally have
a bugaboo with folks that say theycan do something and they can't, or
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maybe they think they can do somethingthat they really aren't able to. Maybe
they're hearts in the right place,but they really aren't trained, or they're
just charlatan's. Have you folks experiencedfor individuals in the field that have gone
out and have tried to pull thewool over people's eyes? Oh? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, weeven had had him in our group.
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We've been through so many members,you know, the thirteen years until
just a couple of years ago,and we really like this, you know,
they just they were out of thisworld, you know. You know,
you've got rules you have to goby. But I mean out there,
we've had some groups we've you know, because I love working with other
groups because we each can learn somethingfrom each other. There's always a technique
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that you do that we don't andthe same thing you know that we do,
and you know, so we canalways learn something. But there are
a couple of groups out there thatwe've had issues with. One actually in
particular, actually told us the nameof the group and everything, and it
turned out they stole the name,and you know, it caused us issues.
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But we had nothing to do.We didn't know it, you know.
But and then there's the ones thatsay, oh, yeah, you
know, I'm sensitive, I cancome in, I can do anything.
I found that if you have towalk up to me immediately come out of
your mouth and say I'm sensitive,I want to work with your group,
I kind of back off because Ifind that most people that truly are sensitive
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do not walk up to you rightoff the bat and say that. They
kind of keep it back. Idon't tell anybody, you know, when
I go to a place, Ido not tell them anything. I don't
say anything. I don't let anybody, you know, anybody know who's sensitive
in the group, who's what youknow? And I just I find that
people I don't know. Some somewant to be on TV for this,
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you know, so they call us, you know, for different investigations,
and some, you know, justget a little crazy when they do their
investigating, you know. And andthen, like I said before, it's
not like TV at all. Youknow. I've sat many a night's for
hours nothing going on. Well,and and that's an analogy. I use
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paranormal investigations or like a police stakeout, and that's something I can actually discuss
intelligently. And loads of the timesthey're boring, boring, Yeah, boring,
boring, boring. Do you guyscharge for your investigations? No?
Not even Okay, what are yourphilosophies on that? Why don't you charge?
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Because that that seems to be aa new thing that's starting to crop
up amongst some groups. Yeah,I see that that some people are charging
I always felt that if you werea true paranormal group, you didn't charge
because you were out there trying tohelp the people. It wasn't a job.
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It's something to help, you know, somebody, you know, And
I don't you know, I wouldn'tcharge somebody for that. So that's our
philosophy is we are there to helpthem, not to make money, you
know, and we're there for thescience. Yeah, you know, just
especially brand and Brandon is really tigon science. Yeah, I just I
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don't just don't believe in charging forsomething like that. Now, they can
donate if they want, but no, we don't charge at all. You
encourage donations and we just tell themthat if you want and you can afford
to, you can do donate.You know, we don't force you to,
you know. You know, mostpeople are at least a little bit
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generous, you know, because theyknow we have to buy the equipment and
batteries. Of course, batteries.We go through a lot of batteries.
Oh, I'll tell you there's gettingmore expensive all the time. For that.
I'm of the belief that any anyinvestigative team worth their salt, for
the reasons you've described, would nevercharge for an investigation. So I so,
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what is the very briefly, inabout thirty seconds, the most egregious
thing you've seen happen out there involvingteams without using any names of course,
that's yeah, that's okay, okay. Segrading cemeteries and going into places without
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permission, Yeah, don't do that, Folks, always get permission. Trustpassing
is a crime. Well, we'reabout ready to take our last break,
folks. And when we get back, Liz, I want to hear about
your book, and I want tohear about the Ghostwalks and Bradenton. So
folks, stay with us as wefind out about the ghosts of braidenton be
back after these messages and welcome back, folks, and my guest tonight,
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Ron and Liz Reid want to tellyou a couple things before we get on
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You can find us at Paranormal Societyof Bradington or p s o b f
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L at okay dot com. Youthe wrong one? Yeah, okay,
Well I was trying to get himin on it too. Yeah, it's
a ps ob f L at gmaildot com if you want to check out
the But Liz, you're a writerand you've written a book involving about the
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area that you're in, Manite Florida, Manite County, Florida. Tell us
about the book. Well, Iwas contacted about writing and I just started
doing research and that's how I'd endedup getting to the ghost too. Was
I was working with the History Libraryfor the book, and I thought,
well, this is pretty cool,you know. And once I started researching,
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and then I went all the wayaround asking stories and all that and
just gathered them up. And thenthere's some of our from our investigations that
are in there too, you know. But yeah, I just look through
the history. So in your book, tell us about some of the more
compelling stories in Bradenton, Florida.And for those folks that don't know where
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Brington is, where's it located onthe for an hour south of Tampa,
Okay, so being the west coastof Florida and the Gulf of Mexico.
You know. So tell us tellus some some good stories out of the
book. Well, there's a lotof them. Let's see which one that
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Hampton in Yeah, the Hampton Inn. It's a hotel that's downtown. It
doesn't like to be known that it'shaunted, but everybody knows it's haunted.
There are some I could stand thereall night and talk about the place.
It's got that many ghost stories.I mean, there's a lady in white
that wants the fourth and seventh floor. There's a little girl that they actually
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call Annabelle, as a joke thatit messes with the building. And she's
been there since the building was built, and that was in twenty five and
it's been a nursing home at onepoint. Then they had issues. There's
always they can always hear a bandup on the very top of the building
plane and people laughing and partying.Well, that doesn't go on nowadays.
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And even when it was the retirementhome, it didn't go on. It
only went when it was prohibition duringthe hotel at the Hotel Time d'ur in
the twenties. So that still goeson today, you know. And the
little girl likes to mess with youwhen you're in the elevator, you know,
so open and close the doors andwon't let you go to different areas.
There's a gentleman that walks in thelobby at two four and six am,
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jingling keys and whistling. There's justa whole lot of things that happened
in that building. So you'd recommendthat hotel for anybody. Yeah, And
I always tell everybody you go,you call me, I'll bring the equipment.
So all the stories there, what'syour favorite story in the book,
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Yeah, an he's well, yeah, we did do a story about Baker's
husband that had passed away, andClaire as a bell on the voice box.
She went in the house and broughtout a glass and handed it to
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Ron and I said, Carl,can you tell us what Ron is holding?
And out clear as a bell,it comes out says it's a glass.
It was his glass that he hadhis scotch and every night, and
that's and so that was pretty coolthat he was telling us that that's that's
his glass. Yeah, you know, so they actually got that. Was
got that in the book? Ohyeah, yeah, excellent, excellent.
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So he's he was pretty active thatnight, you know. So you know,
in addition to the book, obviouslyyou just mentioned the book open the
door for you to start doing thewalks and see it's the downtown Bradenton Ghost
Walk in the Bradington Beach Ghost Walk. So you do two of them?
How often do you do them?I do him when Tuesday through Saturday,
when anybody calls them buy his tickets, we go, you know, okay,
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so it's on demand. Yeah,and uh, like I said,
I just did one with the twelveyear old the other night, which I
had a blast with, you know, and I do not make them scary
because I like kids to be ableto come and a lot of times I'll
have parents that'll bring their kids andsay, you know, and they're always
talking about imaginary friends. So Ithought this might be fun for them.
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I always tell them, don't don'talways think they're imaginary. They might be
real. You know. That's onesola common theory out through the youngsters whose
mind are cluttered with the world aroundus, can see a whole lot more
than that we can't. So yeah, so why do you do the walks?
I know you got interested for researchingthe book, but what's your your
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motive to First off, that helpspay for equipment and batteries. That helps
term So that's so that's the why, you know, we don't have to
charge or anything, you know.And the other thing is is I want
because on my walk, I givethem a K two to work with in
a couple of spots and let themcommunicate with the spirits. I want them
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to get a taste of what it'sreally like of what we do, so
that they understand more of how it'sdone, you know, done on the
investigation and things like that. Andthen I like just to tell them about
you know the area. There's alot of people that come that you know,
live in Bradington that don't know alot of the underground history of Bradington.
So I find it funny when I'mtelling them something and they're like,
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what, I've lived here all mylife, you didn't know that. Yeah,
there's there's some satisfaction of that.I can understand that. How how
often do folks experience things on yourtours? Usually every night downtown, downtown,
every night. The beach one Ihave I'd love to take you on
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that as being a retired officer,because I have one that is the spirit,
that is she actually was supposedly committedsuicide. But there's so much that's
come out that her mother paid forprivate investigations, Like she has the imprint
of a wicker chair on her butt, But how could she hang herself from
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the shower head and stead on thatchair after she's dead to get that imprint?
You know, that's there's different thingsand and it's really amazing because when
we get to her spot, I'llI'll say, Sheena, we're here tonight.
You know, I send everything toyour mom and she always tells me
to tell you that she loves you, and sometimes she will take the K
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two meter and make it go offlike a heartbeat instead of just lighting up,
it will go off like a heartbeat, and it's really kind of neat.
But I mean I told her mom, I said, you know,
there is a history that a ghostfits solve their own murder. So if
this helps you, know, ye, her mom, I'll gladly give it
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to you. You know, hermom lives in Pampus. She doesn't come
down here too much. She's afraidto go over the bridge. So this
is a fairly recent murder. Thisis not an old Yeah two thousand and
one, Yeah, yeah, happened. So how you do them every day?
Do you do them all year?And how often? Yeah? How
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often? How many people do youtake out a week? I guess is
a grist that you don't have schedules? How many do you take out a
week? And have you found theother part of that question is have you
found that it's waxed or waned dependingon time of year? For interest,
school September and August September, forgetit. It's quiet because everybody's game right
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for school and stuff like that,So it's quiet, and it's quiet at
the end of season for about amonth, and then that picks back up
because then the tourists for the summercome in. It just depends. Sometimes
I can do none and sometimes Ican do I've done seventy before in one
trip. I won't ever do thatagain. We have a lot of tourists
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here. Yeah, So the mostI take out in one group is twenty.
That's downtown because it's the area ofwalking on the beach, the beach
walk, I can only take sixbecause it's a very small walk area and
you have to, you know,walk through the crowds of the people on
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the beach, you know, onthe streets and stuff. So it's kind
of hard. How how long arethe tours there? I try to keep
them to an hour and a half, but sometimes when we're really getting a
lot of activity, we may justgo a little longer. Now downtown,
we just found that hot spot justrecently and we've got like six spirits they're
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talking to us down there, soit kind of makes it go just a
little bit longer now because we're allexcited about what we're trying to find out.
Who everybody is, you know,and you know where they came from.
So well, how do folks findyou find out about the walks?
How do they contact you? Well, they can google dont Brady who can
ghost walk? Or they can ParanormalSociety at WordPress dot com. Or they
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can give me a call at I'mfor one seven zero four zero six two
to one, and that's you know, they can book a ghost walk and
they can you know, buy ticketsonline and you know, just have some
fun and do people come away witha better understanding of the history of Bringon
and where it came from. Iactually had a gentleman not too long ago
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that said, I don't believe ghosts. I don't believe in any of this,
but I have nothing else to do. I'm staying at the Hampton End
and I want something to do,so just I'm just coming for the history.
We did. The whole tour gotdone. And he said, I'll
tell you this right now, I'mno longer a skeptic. And I said,
okay, you know, so,I mean you know that some come
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for the history, some come forthe ghosts, some come for it all.
You know, it's just they werejust to have fun with their friends,
you know it just so it's allkind of I'm sure you know that
too. You know, they allcome in different ways that they do.
How does how do the tours helpyou with your investigations? How do they
enhance it? Do they have anyeffect on it? Oh? Well,
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we get more. We get moreinvestigations because people will start saying things like,
oh, we on this ghost walk, you should see talk to these
people about your issue, and thenthey'll call us. You know, they're
friends, So we get a lotmore. We do find that there are
a couple of places down there thatwe have one woman that she considers herself
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a witch, but she's not.She's more of a shalman from back in
the day, and she travels arounddowntown. So we may be stopping at
one stop and she'll be there,and then the next stop she might be
there again. Or we might bedoing an investigation in a building and she
might show up there. So Ijust you know, they all kind of
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wander around. You know. Well, folks, if you go to Braid,
if you go to Bradenton, Irecommend you do you check them out.
Just google Bradenton Ghostwalks and get ahold of Lizen ron Ron. Did
you have something else you want toadd? Well, you know, there's
a lot of history here. Bradingtonwas founded in the eighteen hundreds, so
yeah, there's a lot of historyin Florida that people just don't realize.
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And folks, unfortunately we're out oftime. So I want to thank you
very much for being with us.Thank you so much for sharing, and
folks, enjoy the holidays. Newyear is coming. Let's make it a
good year. Let's make it positive, pray for peace, and be a
good example to others to help perpetuatepeace and goodwill towards others. So I
wish you all happy New Year.I hope you had a great holiday.
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Hug your family, give those kidsa big kiss, and until we get
together again, I'll see you onthe other side. Have a good night. Books
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