July 9, 2025 • 60 mins
The premier episode of Lifesquest - Psychic Questing
There is a very thin veil between the physical and the spiritual, so what happens when the two worlds collide, beyond messages from loved ones. Lifesquest is a journey of psychic questing, so join us as we follow the signs and see what you make of it all.
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There is a very thin veil between the physical and the spiritual, so what happens when the two worlds collide, beyond messages from loved ones. Lifesquest is a journey of psychic questing, so join us as we follow the signs and see what you make of it all.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Good evening, and welcome to the very first episode of
Life's Quest. Now in the studio, I'm joined by my
fellow questers. We have mister Darrel Barry, we have Miss
Marlene Buck Good evening, and we have.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Mister Richard Clements.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Could he be.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
H Hello Dare, and I'm Kerry Greenway.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now we've entered into this questing at Malarkey quite inadvertently.
We're following the read of what the spirit tell us,
and we thought we'd bring you real life action of
how we got to where we got and how spirit
have led the way throughout this weird and wonderful journey
that we're on. So I thought, first of all, let's
let's talk about our backgrounds, because we've we all come
(01:15):
from quite a varied background. For myself, I'm mainly retail
I'm a retail shopgirl in my other incarnation, but I
sell crystals and minerals. I've been quite spiritual all my life,
so I work from a revery psychic perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What about you, Richard.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Me. I've actually had a new incarnation over the last year.
I've actually taken up writing and it's been quite successful
so far. So I don't like to try and sort
of not the boat. But if I do say so
of myself, I've been quite successful at it doing article
writing and yeah, on the paranormal scene, history scene. So
(01:58):
my main areas of interest on the history mystery type
schort of genre. So what we're doing here fits in
really well.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And darryl.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh, yeah, I'm an electrician. This journey, I don't know,
just there it goes and see what comes up. I've
had some a few things come up. So we'll start
from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Well, I have always been a very spiritual person, just
wasn't too sure what I knew, But now I know.
I am the sharmonic lady as many knows me. But
I'm just scarious friends and she just takes me to
places and asdra magic happens.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So I hope that we get to have a lot
of fun with you A.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Boll okay, So this is all based in the Essex area.
We all live and work and have been here for
quite a long time. I've lived on in my area.
Canby Island is actually where I come from. I've been
here for what fifty two years now, so I know
this landscape quite well. Of that in between space you know,
(03:18):
like I could obviously Canby Islands reclaimed land, so it's
like marsh land with the belt and.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hills then going into behind me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So that's kind of the landscape that I know Essex
as because all of this questing has come from this area.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's like literally been on our doorsteps.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So how how are your roots as it were, in
this particular area, Darryl.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I was born on Canvy sixty one years ago and
I've lived on here all my life version, I mean,
I moved away a couple of couple of times for
a little while that always come back there saying a
lot of change, a lot of change, a lot more
buildings and everything else, and a lot of farmland has
gone and everything else.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
But it's still old things I remember here. But yeah, really, what.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
About you Riches?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, as you know, I'm not actually from this area
per se my favorite word. You better get used to
hearing that. But I've known Kerry for about ten years now,
and ever since I've known Kerry, I've been traveling down
to this area because I live about about twenty miles
outside sort of just sort of the Champsford and in
(04:32):
between Chamsford and culture stuff. So I'm relatively new to
the area, but I've learned a lot in ten years,
and particularly the last year was we've been on this
journey and stuff. I have learned a lot, and I've
learned to appreciate this part of Essex a lot more
(04:53):
because when I sort of first ventured down here, I thought, Oh,
it's all going to be tilby dots everywhere. What in
this area have to offer? But I have to admit
I am very surprised and quite you know, and this
is a place I call my second home now.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And Malina because you're definitely not from this area.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Oh Lord, lord Lord, Now, I am not even from
this country. I come from across the Pond. I am
originally from Brazil. Came to England nearly twenty seven years ago,
lived in Ireland, living a bit in Wales, lived in
Grace Canvey Island.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Ended up in Pazzy.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I have known Kvy for a good nearly thirteen years
now and last year reconnecting with Cavey and she shaving
the ideas and we go for walk here and walk there,
especially the other day walking on the field full of
hours and there droppling, so we say the Saint of
(06:04):
that red bright grass and the smell of the cow saint.
He took me back to childhood, which it's what I
used to do what I'm doing now as an adult,
exploring the wood, connecting with the nature around me and
talking to the earth, listening to the Earth's stories.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Like I said, like I take you to all the
best places my life.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You're doing your cows well when you think, my darling,
you talk me to your twelve century church that.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Has a nights babies in there.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You know a lot of the things that I read
as a child that was should do with King Arthur's
and all of that time and ere.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
That you guys know, there is no way that would
be happening where I come from. So to now be
on a lane where all of these talk place or
a place and thank you care before they me there.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's not me, darling. I've along for the journey as
much as you guys.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Regid stopped driving us.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They are regent from be so pagient with me and raising.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
All the magic is wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So we've all kind of fallen into sort of like
a little routine in the last six months that this started.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, there's so much has already happened that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We thought, you know, like bring it to put it
out there a little bit more, because this is like
the essence, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
This is the source of spirituality.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We're following guides, you know, we're following spirit messages and
fame messages and galactic cosmic messages and god knows what else,
and it can get a little crazy at times.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Malena and myself obviously are quite first in the weirder side,
shall we say, of spirituality. But guys, you're quite new
to this. So this last six months there has been
a bit of a journey for you to, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, Yeah, definitely for me. I've never done anything eyes
before we like, but that is quite enjoyable. A lot
of get a lot of insight, a lot of things
come through. So I'm happy I've started it and carry.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
On with it. Yeah, like a light down, But I've
had a little bit more sort of a I did
sort of have an idea of what it quite possibly
could be like because of my interests and sort of
mine and Kerry's previous incarnations with podcasting and working together
and sort of going on ghost hunts and stuff like that.
(08:36):
So I did have an inkling of what might be
coming along.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, it's always gets a little bit crazy when I'm involved,
doesn't it. So first of all, let's look at the
term then for people who might not realize what I'm
actually talking about or what we're talking about tonight, because
this really kind of comes under the psychic questing, doesn't it. So, Richard,
(09:03):
do you want to give a brief overview as to
what is psychic questing?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Well, for a lot of people who have probably heard
the term, they probably think it's quite a modern term,
but the actual sort of concept of psychic questing this
is probably as old as time itself, and you sort
of it is sort of like going out to discover
a lot of people will say all buried treasure, but
(09:29):
not necessarily it's going out to find treasures or artifacts
or even hidden sort of knowledge or just to expand
your own sort of inner spiritual knowledge. And the way
you go about this is not the traditional historical route
by researching books and stuff, where that is important, but
you also use your intuition because the school of thought
(09:53):
here is your intuition, and you're sort of like your
spiritual side is also important and you can gain a
lot of insight and this and this part can also
direct you to certain areas and from what I can
gather sort of like looking throughout history, there's a few
sort of like famous cases. I mean, you could argue
that Joan of Arc was sort of acting on divine
(10:19):
inspiration and interpretation and she sort of a trapped down
a sword in a French in a French church that
was sort of buried beneath an altar, and that was
sort of like and that is documented fact, you know,
So she was led there by her sort of spiritual intuition.
(10:41):
And it also goes back to Tibetan times as well,
sort of right back to the sort of like the
far Eastern mysticism, where where a Tibetan master in the
eighth or ninth century hid these sort of like truths
and even our facts for future and for the future
(11:03):
for future sort of people to actually go and find
them when the time was right. And some of these artifacts,
it is said by the Tibetan community, are still coming
up today and this is still quite a big part
of their religious sort of structure, going out and to
discover these truths that were secreted wherever in the world.
(11:29):
All those years ago and sort of building on that,
and I think it's sort of lay dormant for a while,
but it wasn't until sort of like the late seventies
early nineteen eighties here in the UK in particular, psychic
questing was brought to the light by the likes of
(11:51):
Andy Collins and Graham Phillips. And I don't know if
you want to carry on their carry more to do, like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, I agree totally with everything you've said, and the
Andy Collins and Grand Phillips will come in more on
a later date. The relevancy of their work will come
in more at a later date in regards to understanding
how this plays out. Sometimes now within that you're using
spiritual tools and that's kind of where my Lana and
(12:23):
myself come into play really with that, and we're teaching
you guys that spiritual essence of it as well while
we're on it. So for myself, when I'm working in
the field, I'm just say very much in the present,
just being open to everything and everything shows itself to me.
It's kind of just like it just feels like if
(12:46):
you follow what you feel, that's where it leads. And
that's I'm still learning that understanding of that relationship within myself.
But somebody who's a lot more practiced at that and
has led the way and quite a lot of the
adventures of things has been Marlina.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
How is it for you the psychic questing?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's put it quite coldly in the physical but from
a spiritual perspective, from your perspective, how does how does
it play.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
For you in the field?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
For me.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Stain as you know, Fabamoda is on the playout today.
We just said the question again because the brain it's
like a little seafer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So when we're working, when you're working spiritually in the field,
how does the psychic questing work for you?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
In regard to you? What tools do you use?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, because we're we're very active with it, as
in we get pulled to it. It's that's a physical pall,
isn't it when we feel something in the field. But
that's very different for some of the other tools that
people use, like dowsing rods and things like that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So tell me how it works for you.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Well for me, as you know, I am an earth healer,
so therefore I have a very strong and deep connection
with the environments around me, especially the earth and nature itself.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
So when we are out there, it's like almost the
flesh and bone.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Where separates the boundary is no longer there. It melts
in within the energy of the environment that I am in,
So I become one with that place and you feel
the pool. I kind of feel slightly different. I usually
(14:39):
feel the pool, but now has changed. I feel as
if there is something in me that does not belong there.
It's of a different mative you, a different consistent sort
of thing, and that is where I know where to
kind of just go for things. But I love how
we both work together because need that isn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did you have a balance reality? Yeah, that's like my
Lana works high and I work quite low. Now, Darryl
Brand spanking you to.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The spiritual journey and your spiritual gifts when you started
six months ago. For you, you was like, I'm not psychic.
I'm a psychic as a stick.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, And I didn't think of anything of it. You know,
first of all, I thought I'd give it a triacy.
It goes, and you know, I've had a lot of insights.
I mean, I've been drawn to a lot of places
that I've gone there and then that has led me
to go somewhere else. A lot of personal things come
out as well in my personal journey in this as well.
It's led me to places that I've never go I'm
(15:46):
going to go to churches. I've never been to your
church in your life. Nearly every weekend to go to
a different church. It's quite enjoyable. Yeah, it's It's not
a place that sort of six months a year ago
i'd ever be. It's completely changed my outlook towards life,
(16:07):
you know what I mean. I mean it's changed me.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
I know it's changed me. Other people have noticed the
change in me as well, which is good for me.
I'm happy with that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The insights that you get though, come from a very
different place to where you would normally expect, don't they.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So when you're working, when you're out in the field
with us working, you've had times where things have happened
that you can only put down to spirit.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean this will
probably come out later on, but I mean, yeah, it
was all to do with the psychic world that we
went through and everything else. And there was my one
there was a necklace and I just dream about this necklace, and.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Me and Richard went out a few weeks ago to
this church and we was walking around and all that,
and then I got to the gate because it was
supposed to be sort of the doorway where the church was.
There was supposed to be a saracen stone in there,
but we didn't find that, but that was it. So
we looked about and then we carried on walking around again,
and then I walked back again, and then hanging on
(17:23):
the gate sort of thing that goes into the church,
there was a necklace and it was exactly what I
dreamed of, which I thought, well, that's weird, you know
what I mean, And that that completely changed my mind. Well, well,
I mean I dreamt it and there it is. So
it's not worthing it It's just like a bit of jewelry.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
But it shows that spirit is there, showing me that
they are there, I mean, which I wouldn't have thought
six months ago. No, I wouldn't think nothing about it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now, Yeah, that was a nice That was a nice
bit of confirmation for you.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Was definitely a nice bit of confirmation. I mean, if
I was a disbeliever, that changed it in an instant.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Because the funny thing is, I've been around that doorway
before Daryl walked around there, because because we both sort
of turned up at the church and we both went
off on our own a good old nose round, and
I'm convinced, well, I'm telling you now, there was nothing there.
When I looked at that door, there was nothing hanging
off those railings, because I would have seen it. But
(18:34):
you know, but when I walked back round with Darryl
a bit later, there it.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Was there was no one there either, was there to
put it there.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'd just like to point out it was costume jewelry.
We're not talking about anything with value.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Here at all, Villians.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It was costume jewelry.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But it was the fact that it was exactly how
you had envisaged in your vision, wasn't it in your
in your mind sighed what you'd see was what appeared.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I mean the one I dreamed I was a bit
more extravagant of what that was, but it's the same.
I mean I dreamt that it was like it was
a chain coming down and it split into three either
side of it, and then it come down to a pendum,
which is exactly what I found.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I think that's the one thing I think as always
sort of like shocks me.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You get what you need, you don't necessarily get.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What you want, right, So we would all love to
go out and get questing and find the diamond necklaces.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Or the swords or the breast, you know, a Viking
horde or something. You know, we're all we're all very
what we've been given.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Though on this quest it's just some amazing personal things
like artifacts, like I've got a staff that was gifted
to me in a moment that the Veritie Mary was
very prevalent in what I was experiencing in moment. And
it could be a crushed up cup, it could be
(20:06):
the smallest feather, it could be something. But it's the
timing and the relevancy of that that makes it so
key in that moment, isn't it Because if you listen
and listening here we'll go, Okay, a little weird, he
had a dream, found a necklace. But this is consistent,
this has been consistent over the six months.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Isn't it validation for me? I mean it doesn't matter
what other people think. I mean, yeah, they could think that,
but to me, it's validation. You know what I mean,
because and it's exactly the same as what I dreamt exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You mentioned the church factor, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Let's talk about that side of it, because one thing
they don't tell you on the psychic qrusty side of
things when they first kick you off on it and
spirit kick you off on it. Is all I'm going
to say. Because how this all started will unfold as
we continue with this journey. But the fundamentals are all
of a sudden you find yourself going to churches. Now,
(21:06):
I was brought up CV through the general you know,
because you know system in the UK, right, So my
basis of belief is c V. Now I don't go
to church. I don't worship God. I don't you know
bind that mythology or theology should I say at all?
(21:26):
But it's my underlying deep psychological kind of like moral standing.
That's where that comes from. Darryl with you was brought
up in the same CV.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Richard mar Lane.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Roman Catholic, but.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
None of us practiced.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I did.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I did practice until engageing relationships.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That is when I kind of stepped away off the
path because obviously they were from slightly different paths than mine.
But since becoming on my well flying solos, i'll we say,
I was able to step back into my Catholic faith
(22:22):
and practices, especially having young children, so to me was
important they had a little bit of knowledge to me
felt spiritually it was important that I give those children that.
But once I understood that my purpose was here for
(22:43):
far more than I envisioned to be, then I understood
that I had to bring in all of my roots,
and that been the indigenous ancestry that I have on
my father's side and the Catholic roots from my mother's.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But for me, the most incredible thing is I was.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Able to bridge both and find my little star and
embrace who I am and being able to be both
the Roman Catholic, not go to the church, but practicing
the religious core essence and full embrace my crazy spirituality
(23:25):
because it does get crazy, as you know sometimes you.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Guys will find out as we carry on throughout this journey,
is all I'm going to say. Right, so we end
up at a lot of churches, guys, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Why.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Why?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think whatever is we've tapped into is coming to
us through our frame of reference, something that we will
understand and all being from a sort of life Christian background,
whether whether practicing or not, we are familiar with the
stories and the sort of like the iconography and stuff.
(24:09):
So my sort of theory on that act is we
have been shown the way through our and the way,
and we will understand it through our sort of Christian viewpoint, like.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
A comfortable framework.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, instead of sort of really sort of where and
wherever this sort of information is coming from. I mean,
I don't know. It may be coming from, you know,
a purely Christian sort of and perhaps Jesus is up there, yes,
go there, go there. But I think we've all got
the idea that this information does come from an older source,
(24:50):
but it's been framed to us in a more familiar
even though it's archaic, it's been framed with us in
a more familiar way.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But also I think no matter, like when we look
at history and you look at what where people worship,
you know, we know that churches were built on top
of older worshiped sites, not all of them, but there's
a lot of them that were look at.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Grinston Church, Saint Andrew's.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think you know, when you look at that, that is.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Fundamental.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Also in being led that way because it's always brought
into that it's.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Almost like sacred ground.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's almost like it's its strongest at these node points
of churches. Or we followed the Saracen stones at one point,
which again led us back to churches. It kind of
leads us I feel like the biggest church go are
going now when I never used to ever go to
a church.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It feels a little well, I think we've all theologically
und balanced.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But it's not, is it, I think? But I think
we've all benefited from it. Oh how to the yeir,
you know, in our own personal lives sort of like
even away from the quest, you know, it's sort of
like we're going to church. You know, we're actually going
to church services and we're not just sort of like
and originally we thought, how are we going to gain
(26:22):
access to this church? We're going to have to go
to a church service to actually sort of get in
and have a look. But now you know, it's sort
of like, you know, we want to go to these
church services because we are getting something more out of
it as opposed to just gaining access to a building.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I have to say, we're not even adverse to
any church service. This is, if we had the opportunity,
we would just as happily go along to a Jewish
service as we would. You know, we've gone to a
Celtic service, We've gone to a spiritual church service, We've
done Saint Paul's Cathedral serviuce, we've done local church services
(27:06):
at various times of the year, which.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have you know, been important and whatnot have felt as
much of a devotion.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Now that leads us actually to the Virgin Mary, because
on this quest, the first point of that led us to,
as Daryl mentioned earlier, as Sacred Well. Now again this
is there's so much information, we're trying to keep it
quite succinct, but the Sacred Well is actually dedicated to
(27:36):
the Virgin Mary. It's called the Virgin Mary Sacred Well,
isn't it more or less?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, So within that, that's a very different concept to
asking you to believe in God or to believe in
you know, Jesus Christ himself.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's the Virgin Mary. It means something different, doesn't it.
It has a different resonance Malina.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
But there is many aspects where the Virgin maybe really
came in to me.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
If you like for the four of us, especially for
Darvu and.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Richard being the males of the group, it's like it's
to really lead us back to the sacredness within us
all and sometimes you got to take us back to
that sacred spot in the middle of a farmer's field.
(28:46):
But it's bringing in the bodies of water and earth
where it all comes from, the creation, isn't it. We
plant seeds on earth, give us fruit, give us whatever
we have planted. The water comes deep from within. So
to me, it's been an incredible journey, and a new
(29:08):
Virgin may would be stepping up quite a lot because
of the changes that is going on within usoul and
on our personal journey is really to take us back
to the sacred this within a zol but also goes
a little bit deeper than that, the mysteries that never
been explored or looked at before, because especially with the
(29:29):
religions context, this has always been about God, Jesus and
the saints, but virgin maybe never seemed to held such
a strong importance. And part of that is that makes
sense scary so far.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh totally to me.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Boys with Darryl, what about for you, because this is
a very like I'm telling you a bit about the
divine feminine and the Virgin Mary, and this is coming
up in the question we go the well for you
no disrespect, and I think it'll be the first to agree.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You're a blokes bloke kind of man, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You work in a very male orientated business with the
laborers and the electricians and the it's very masculine.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Definitely. Yeah, I mean it's not a place I thought
it would be.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
But as you go to the well, I mean it's
it's it's a calming place and I mean it's it's
it's in the middle of the field, so it's it's.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
It's different, you know what I mean. You could go
somewhere and it'll be quiet, but it's it's more serene,
you know what I mean. It's it's a different feeding
that there's there's definitely something there. I mean, yeah, it was.
I mean apparently there used to be the little church
now whatever it was, which.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Was it God Chapel Chapel and all that there, But
that will come out further wrong in the in the podcast,
I suppose.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
But not this one. But yeah, I mean it's it's yeah,
I'm a very blokey bloke. So it's very strange, is it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Is it like.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Challenging you and your perceptions in regards to how you
view masculine and feminine.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Uh, yeah, yeah, it's just it's not a question for me,
isn't it really? Because I'm more as you say, I'm
more of a masculine side, and I'm not. I'm only
just sort of coming into the spiritual side. So for me,
it's new territory to try and get the head around.
If you understand that, to.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Be fair, the fact that you feel something different in
that place is a massive start to get past that
expectation of yourself in and it's an expectation on yourself
what you should be as a masculine And if I
act in a different way, then I'm weak, you know
what I mean When you actually go into that, you
go into the well area with and it literally feels
(32:11):
like expectation falls off you.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Yeah, and I don't feel like that going in that place.
I mean I would have thought about, yeah, I'm weak,
you know, But now I don't know, I'll see it
in a different way. I mean, I don't think I'm
weak in any way really like that is no, No,
not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But you would have done before.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
That's definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Your perceptions about what a divine masculine, divine feminine should
be are starting to change because of the Virgin Mary.
Because of that, that essence will go with that feeling
that you've.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Got at the well.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Bearing in mind, Darrel, when you first came onto the quest,
it's like we've pinpointed it on the map, and now
first outing was actually to the well. Yeah, because I
had to run you through like what had happened up
to that point to get to go to the well
Before we went to the well?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That kidscoped in.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, you started this like probably a couple of weeks before,
or it was who actually came into it, didn't I?
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Yeah, I should say so, yeah it was I was
told you told I was going to come in.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
There I am, which yeah, to be fair, we knew
it was going to happen. We just didn't know when,
isn't that right?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
My lane?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was like, well when's coming?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Then it was.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
It was the craziest day, just the comment and the
conversation and then spirit, oh, well, she don't need to
worry the man with the vuns coming in.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Anyway, Yeah, we knew that was.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You is to know and I'm like Daryl, that's the one.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So anyway, we get going to lots of churches recapping,
we ended up going to the well. Now, before we
go any further, let's talk about the land itself in Essex,
because this is all very prevalent in regards to There's
a lot of what has happened. You guys out there
listening need to catch up on this, but we will
(34:34):
fill you in. But the landscape itself is incredibly important
because Essex in the UK is literally outside London. It's
attached to London and nowadays it's almost like an expansion
of out in London, isn't it Richard.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yes, we are what are called one of the Home counties.
It's one of the six or seven counties that make
up London.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So throughout history we have quite a st rategic positioning
in regards to importance because about the logistical closest to London.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yes, especially this part of the county we are talking about,
which is the southern half. We are basically sort of
hugging along the Thames foreshore from let's save south end
all the way down to Tilbury and inland from there about. Well,
I don't think we've really sort of wandered much more
(35:30):
than ten miles inland from the River Thames. So all
our sort of work and our sort of insights and
stuff seem to be coming within that general locale, which
is very historically rich you can earn considering the coastline,
(35:52):
you know, considering what Essex was. You know, there's been
a lot of work done down on the Thames foreshore
drain and stuff. I mean, the coastline now is not
what you would have sworn seen, you know, sort of
like a thousand years ago. So we are working around that.
I mean, and you are talking recorded settlements sort of
(36:16):
really from Roman times onwards, and there does seem to
be a continuous settlement, you know, there's no break there.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No, it's yeah, it's relevant historically Forgin Marlene. Now when
you get psychic messages, obviously we're picking up on a
lot of different time periods going through it. In fact,
I think at one point Richard said, we've kind of
hitting so many different time periods it was hard to
separate all the different threads of.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
What we were being told and what we were being following.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
And I think for me, one of the most things
that stands out in my head there was a night
where they'd given you an image of a uniform and
this was so in your mind and if you could
have got it out of here and down onto a
piece of paper, because I think we.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Spent about half an hour just trying.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
To minutely describe how this uniform looks to the frustration.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
In all honesty, let's be fair, there was a lot
of frustration. We are human folks. We do have these
moments about among ourselves.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Where you know, we were like, we know what you're saying,
but we can't find the relevant picture on Google to
you know, to sort of like show you and go, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's definitely it when you get stuff like that, because.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Obviously, you know, you've got very limited historical knowledge in
regards to England because although you've lived here, you're Brazilian, right,
your roots aren't.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
So I had the knowledge when it comes to geography
and history, it's totally completely different than what we.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Are coming across. Yeah, it's quite frustrating.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Trying to work it out what era, what does it
mean that I go right trying to describe a picture
that has been printed in your mind's eye.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yeah, it's it can be quite frustrating sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's like when Marlene says, all she can sort of
see a night. All she gets an impression of a night,
and there's me, My historical brain goes what sort of night?
And I'll be talking to the eleventh century night, twelfth
century night, the fourteenth century night. Yeah, and they are
in different but you know, but we do manage to
work away through it eventually.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I think I think what astounds me.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's like I've just been because obviously we record all
the conversations we have regarding the questions on her personal side,
and I remember doing that transcript at that time, and
then Richard shed an image into just as what that
group we've got going on am I line and nearly
we're a nickers because she.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Was like, that's it, That's why I was saying. And
it all sort of again, it was like it all
just sort of like happened at the same time, didn't it.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that was the incredible thing.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
And that is where I.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Really count my blessings because my team are so incredible
that they make sure the very important detail that will
really distinguish one to the other, that the very one
that defies the ole.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
It's there.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
They find their way to bring it to my visual
so I can go, yeah, we got it.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I have to say that we have gained when Darryl
stepped onto the quest, we gained a kind of like
tech whiz with his phone. Because you like your apps,
don't you, Because like we're very much like everything has
a meaning. So sometimes you get called to a plant
and you go, that's where elevant, But I don't know
how or why because I've got no idea what plant is.
(40:04):
And along comes Daryl with his little act, doesn't he
And he is there and he goes to that say,
and it's always relevant in that moment.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Oh yes, it's flowers, trees, feathers, anything.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's one of the good advantages of the sort of
like questing psychic questing, because you can you can use
the modern with the old. I mean we're not like
relying totally on the spiritual. I mean there is room
for the historical as well. So it does take you
a bit of time to sort things out, but you know,
(40:39):
they both compliment each other.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Oh, it's a lot quicker though, isn't it. I mean,
if you have technology twenty thirty years ago when I
to what you're right now. But I mean, yeah, it'd
be a lot harder than we wouldn't be this far
in request.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I don't think if we didn't have the technology we've
got to day, because it cuts a lot of corners,
doesn't cut. It gets you there a lot quicker. Any
other instead of going through libraries and things like that,
you just pick your phone up. You can find it
straight away.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Reading other quest accounts from the sort of like the
late nineteen cent the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen agies,
there's been a few individual sort of books and stuff
out there, and yeah, I mean they didn't have what
we've got now got access to now, and you can
(41:32):
appreciate sort of like the footwork they must have put
in sort of through records officers and stuff like that.
And fortunately now a lot and not everything, but a
lot is available online to sort of like get access
to quite quickly.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Oh yeah, I mean if you were they went to
the record's office and things like that, I mean it's
a lot of legwork. But now, yeah, wind out online.
Don't know worry about more or less.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
You. Yeah, there is a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
There's a lot more a fingertips, which from a psychic perspective,
it moves a lot quicker, do you know what I mean?
Because you can validate things as you go, and then
you can pull the meaning out as they go, and
then that leads you quicker, you know, And we are
sort of standing on the shoulders of other people's research
at times. Thank you, Thank you, God, thank you so
much because he has saved us the donkey.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
Work and God has time, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Is it for me the paranormal when I came, you know,
I came from a paranormal background as much as Richard did.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
That's very much focused on skepticism and debunk, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yah, Psychic testing is basically allowing that to open and
not debunk everything.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's almost like allowing it all to come in together,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's diffective from the paranormal, So Richard, you know that's
a very different viewpoint from the traditional para normal ghost
time kind of community.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well, yeah, and it certainly is. And even I'm still
having to even through my written work, I have to
be objective in what I write, you know, because a
lot of times this is asked for by the editors.
They want balance the sort of articles balanced, the reporting
and stuff. You know, you have to present both sides.
(43:25):
And you know, and I'm very aware of that when
I'm actually doing the questing, because I know I'm pushing,
I'm going over, I'm allowing myself to go over more
to the spiritual sort of like side of things than
what I would professionally do. But yeah, that is just
(43:45):
the way it is.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
But I think it's about keeping it balanced.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, I think that's the key. If I was it's
if I was to send the story so far off
to an editor and say, oh, this is what I'm
doing and sort of stuff like that, you'll probably just
look at it laugh and say yeah, okay, next please.
So you know, I do have to be sort of
(44:13):
like balanced, and it does come through sometimes during the
question where I will rely on my sort of knowledge
and stuff bus to the annoyance of the girls. I
know that is just me, and you know, and I
always sort of try and sort of say to you
girls and goes, well, and how do you know, I
(44:36):
wasn't supposed to say that, you're very knowledgeable that sort
of stuff. Well, yes, and yes and no, you know,
but there's certainly something here. I mean, I wouldn't have
given up donated for a year so far, or quite
a bit of time doing this if it wasn't productive
(44:58):
in any way and it was leading somewhere. I must
admit I was a bit frustrated at the start, you know,
I thought, when's it going to get going? When's it
going to get going? But now I feel things are
getting going and our focus is narrowing. I'm still not
too sure and what sort of dime frame we're looking at,
(45:20):
but I think we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So our first church that we got led to was
a church called Saint Mary's in Runwell. That's sort of
like being adjacent alongside like the Sacred Wow, hasn't it
is the Saint Mary's Church in Runwell. And we had
a moment where we've been led down many different pathways
(45:47):
and it all kind of coagulated onto Saint Mary's. Yet
the first time we went to that church, we didn't
really pay much attention because we couldn't get inside the church.
We kind of did that left really quickly. Do you
remember that first visit to Saint Mary's.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I'm trying to think we've been there the first visit, Yes,
I do. It seems such a long time ago. We
were sort of we were sort of just wandering around
and we were very very enthusiastic, but I don't think
we really knew what we were doing, the type sort
of thing. You know, we're looking at everything and look
(46:29):
at that, you know, Oh, look at that gravestone and
it's a bit crooked. Is that a sign? You know?
But the more we've been doing this, I mean, you
do hone to skill and we do generally seem to
hone in on things now which are a lot more relevant.
Like before, we had a lot of background sort of
(46:50):
noise coming in and we were picking up all sorts
of stuff and nothing was really directing us anywhere particular.
But now I think, and the more we're involved in this,
we do we have certainly got some sort of aim
point to aim at, and it's still within the local area.
(47:14):
I mean, I can't see us traveling much further than
what we have done already. I think we've initiated the boundary.
It's just the case now of narrowing that down.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
See Saint Mary's is strange because we still haven't been
inside that one. No, and it's such a hub of
all the information. It's all like coagulated onto this one church.
We knew our next step which was to go to
a service there, Yeah, to actually have a look inside.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And we still haven't been inside it. Possibly we shall see.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
How that Marlena, the very first time you went to
that church, can you remember your impressions of the graveyard,
because that's.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
What we looked at, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Yeah, you're talking senter me everything run well, yeah, yes,
I am. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
Well what a beautiful little church. I was in all
of it, because obviously it's just beautiful. But I would
say it talks a lot, has a lot to say.
Unless you really spend the time and really tune into
(48:37):
the place, it's just going to be muffled noise in
the background. But there is definitely a lot, a lot
of mystery, I would say, a lot of treasure, but
richness in history and folk lore. As someone says, but
I don't believe the folk world thing. I stick with
it did happen, you just didn't believe it back then.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
You frame something, it's only how you frame something.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
That's the one isn't it. But yeah, as you say,
definitely we do get back there. But somehow there are
things that it hasn't played out yet.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Interesting, very interesting times, I feel interesting.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
But there is a particular corner there. Oh, I can't
wait to go back there and hear what they got
to say.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
You picked up the first time we went to that churchyard.
I think we both did. Actually it was quite a
while back when we first went there. Yeah, right, and
we picked up, didn't we?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
We did beautiful, beautiful pine cones.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
And then I exploded, didn't they?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (49:55):
My God, like fireworks.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
And they left roses. Now, this is quite completely natural.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
This is this is the life cycle of a particular
tree which turns out to be the what is it?
It was a cedar, wasn't it. It's a cedar tree.
And these have basically the symbology of seeds being cast
everywhere was literally from the moment we went to that church.
(50:26):
The whole journey from then on, the seeds of that
they spread on that one just have led us here,
there and everywhere, and it's just been one of the
most crazy journeys going forward.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
So we have recently.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
On a different thread, which is still part of the
plast being cut away a BlackBerry bush. Now, boys, this
must seem bonkers to the average passer by, shall we say?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
You do kind of have to get over your or
worry about what other people think, don't you?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Well if we're having to deal with the average passer by,
because it's in the middle of nowhere, really, But yes,
it was a bit odd, but I did enjoy the
time we spent there cutting away at the BlackBerry bush.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
It's not your land, it's not your tree, it's not
anything you're going to benefit from. And it was stood
out on a hot summer's evening, cutting away at a
blackberuybush because spirit of guided you to a specific spot
a specific time, on a specific day.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Because that came out from a message that Daryl received. No,
that wasn't the church there. That was a Hadney Castle,
wasn't it. Yeah, how did we get sent to Handey Castle? Daryl?
When we was at Thundersy Church?
Speaker 3 (52:01):
That was Yeah?
Speaker 4 (52:02):
That was when I was sitting there. Uh, I was
sitting there and you said look over there. I could
see I could see something grave through the trees. And
then I sort of you said, I have a good
look at I looked at it, and it looked like
first of all, it looked like, uh, the shape of
a person with a what they called.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
There's a robe on we were hood and all that,
and then I got that.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Sort of message. And then then it changed and it
looked like that it was someone in a suit of armor.
So you said, like, go over and have a look,
didn't you. So I walked over there, and I was
looking at it, and you said like, look at look
at the look at the gravestone, and me being me
(52:51):
being a bloke, and I was just picking up the
fund and all that.
Speaker 7 (52:54):
The font to me, the font didn't look right. But
I mean, but it wasn't that wasn't wasn't what I
was looking for. And the name on it was Albert.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
I can't remember the first name. The next name and
it was Castle, and I mean one of my one
of my guys, I suppose you call it, isn't it is?
Speaker 7 (53:15):
His name is Burt? And which is where the the
like which drew me over there? The Albert, so I mean,
and then the castle and then it it made me
think and then I'm sorry. There was a date on
it as well, which was the seventeenth of June seventeenth
(53:37):
of June, which was only two days away from when
it was over. I think it was or three days.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
And then.
Speaker 7 (53:45):
I think Kerry said, well, where's where's the castles around here?
I said, the only castle I know is Hadney Castle,
which led us to Handley Castle on that date, wasn't
it was on that day? And I mean that's where
I found I mean, everyone gets there. I found my tree.
(54:07):
That's where my trees over there, So I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (54:12):
It was quite insightful that and there was another other
things that were that appened over there. They'll probably come
out later on or whatever, but yeah, that's that's we
got there.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
But you had an integral meeting. I'd read in the
cards that there was a meeting that was important. That
why do we have to go to Handy Castle? Privately,
I had to look at the cards and they come
up a meeting and.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'm like, that's weird. Okay, so we're going to there's
an integral meeting that's going.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
To take place.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
I think Pete's I think it's Pete. I've got one
more Instagram there anyway, But yeah, I mean, and he
was fine a drone and he was flying a drone.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Yeah, and I mean I've always I said to me
I wanted to get Yeah, I bought one drive first
of all, bought one of a team.
Speaker 7 (54:57):
You you know what team is like.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
There's nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
There are other people available to buy stuff from to
just like to add.
Speaker 7 (55:09):
Got the drone out as you do. You don't really
the instructions.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
You just stick your hands on the controls smack when
it was a gash on the TV.
Speaker 7 (55:18):
So that never flew it again. Richard knows about that
with Flowers, didn't you, Richard? But yes, you can tell
about that one in a little while. I mean, Kerry
got uh something through saying that we've got to look
from above.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
We've always been told by the girls we've got to
go high. We've got to go high.
Speaker 7 (55:39):
Yeah, now we've got a drone.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
And now we've got a drone, so we go you
like girls?
Speaker 7 (55:45):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't tried it yet.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
No, but fortunately Will Darryl was good enough to buy
one for his trusts anyway, but certainly oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (56:08):
For us all of you know, I mean, we could go.
Speaker 8 (56:19):
When are you bringing it over, Darryl?
Speaker 7 (56:22):
How to fly first fly?
Speaker 1 (56:28):
And that's an adventure for another day. I feel you
might have to record that one, guys. I think that
needs to go out as a TikTok funny.
Speaker 7 (56:38):
In the ground.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Where are we going from here? I mean literally, we're
in the middle of We're in the right in the
middle of the crest. So we're picking up this podcast
and we're bringing it to you.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Guys. There's going to be a lot backwards and forwards.
There's probably going to be a whistle stop tour through
varying historical you know, things that are becoming integral in
that moment, and it all becomes very confusing at times.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
How do you keep that balance in there? You know, like,
how do you work out what's the batshit crazy, what
it means, what it doesn't mean. How do you just
allow the surrender to it and just go with the
flow with it, because that is always a bone.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Of contention at times, isn't it. I like the way
nobody answers.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
And we all get a lot knockouts, otherwise you will
be still doing it fine. Timings always with me a
little bit, but something I'm used my.
Speaker 6 (57:44):
Explain that timing, well, the divine timing.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
It's that little thing that you want to do certain things,
and yet you cannot seem to be able to get
the flow and the go with it. And you are trying,
you are trying, but nothing is happening. Like the clock,
you're trying to get it to work, but it's not going.
Then all of a sudden, everything comes in. You pick
(58:13):
things up and you're out there.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
So again it's one up.
Speaker 5 (58:18):
Until you, guys, really become very one with your environment,
you will be able to really understand to a tee
how the divine time works. As I said, the best way.
Speaker 6 (58:31):
Like a plant.
Speaker 5 (58:31):
You can't rush a plant to grow. You plant it
and you're gonna allow it to just do its thing.
And time and energetic flow, that's the time.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
You don't know.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
It comes from the gads. And I have a very
strong intuition, and I just listen to my intuition. People
are saying things, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (58:53):
Feeling in here right what you're saying. What you're saying.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
So practice to really trust your intuition, to really trust
the cosmos, spirits, the universe, that everything has its own
motion and you just get a lift on that motion
and everything just flows.
Speaker 7 (59:14):
The plant and energy was good. Yeah, you can't. I
mean it will grow. It will grow when it's got
to grow, when you can't fulce it. I mean, my my,
my plant.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
I bought out my garden. I mean it's that lily,
I think, isn't it. But I mean I get into
the bud and I'm thinking, come on, come on, it's been.
Speaker 7 (59:33):
It's been, and I went out.
Speaker 8 (59:36):
There to die to water it, and there is beautiful
when it was ready, and I'm just.
Speaker 6 (59:48):
A key to it.
Speaker 5 (59:50):
Patience, you learn patience and everything will come together.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
And on that note, did you.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Find timing taking over now this show because we have
actually come to the end of the show. Please join
us in two weeks time for another installment. Things will
start flowing a little better. We need to fill you
in on the background to start with.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
On that note, say good night, guys, good
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Night everyone, thank you, and good night, good night.
Good evening, and welcome to the very first episode of
Life's Quest. Now in the studio, I'm joined by my
fellow questers. We have mister Darrel Barry, we have Miss
Marlene Buck Good evening, and we have.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Mister Richard Clements.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Could he be.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
H Hello Dare, and I'm Kerry Greenway.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now we've entered into this questing at Malarkey quite inadvertently.
We're following the read of what the spirit tell us,
and we thought we'd bring you real life action of
how we got to where we got and how spirit
have led the way throughout this weird and wonderful journey
that we're on. So I thought, first of all, let's
let's talk about our backgrounds, because we've we all come
(01:15):
from quite a varied background. For myself, I'm mainly retail
I'm a retail shopgirl in my other incarnation, but I
sell crystals and minerals. I've been quite spiritual all my life,
so I work from a revery psychic perspective.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What about you, Richard.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Me. I've actually had a new incarnation over the last year.
I've actually taken up writing and it's been quite successful
so far. So I don't like to try and sort
of not the boat. But if I do say so
of myself, I've been quite successful at it doing article
writing and yeah, on the paranormal scene, history scene. So
(01:58):
my main areas of interest on the history mystery type
schort of genre. So what we're doing here fits in
really well.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And darryl.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh, yeah, I'm an electrician. This journey, I don't know,
just there it goes and see what comes up. I've
had some a few things come up. So we'll start
from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Well, I have always been a very spiritual person, just
wasn't too sure what I knew, But now I know.
I am the sharmonic lady as many knows me. But
I'm just scarious friends and she just takes me to
places and asdra magic happens.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So I hope that we get to have a lot
of fun with you A.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Boll okay, So this is all based in the Essex area.
We all live and work and have been here for
quite a long time. I've lived on in my area.
Canby Island is actually where I come from. I've been
here for what fifty two years now, so I know
this landscape quite well. Of that in between space you know,
(03:18):
like I could obviously Canby Islands reclaimed land, so it's
like marsh land with the belt and.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hills then going into behind me.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So that's kind of the landscape that I know Essex
as because all of this questing has come from this area.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's like literally been on our doorsteps.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So how how are your roots as it were, in
this particular area, Darryl.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
I was born on Canvy sixty one years ago and
I've lived on here all my life version, I mean,
I moved away a couple of couple of times for
a little while that always come back there saying a
lot of change, a lot of change, a lot more
buildings and everything else, and a lot of farmland has
gone and everything else.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
But it's still old things I remember here. But yeah, really, what.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
About you Riches?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, as you know, I'm not actually from this area
per se my favorite word. You better get used to
hearing that. But I've known Kerry for about ten years now,
and ever since I've known Kerry, I've been traveling down
to this area because I live about about twenty miles
outside sort of just sort of the Champsford and in
(04:32):
between Chamsford and culture stuff. So I'm relatively new to
the area, but I've learned a lot in ten years,
and particularly the last year was we've been on this
journey and stuff. I have learned a lot, and I've
learned to appreciate this part of Essex a lot more
(04:53):
because when I sort of first ventured down here, I thought, Oh,
it's all going to be tilby dots everywhere. What in
this area have to offer? But I have to admit
I am very surprised and quite you know, and this
is a place I call my second home now.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And Malina because you're definitely not from this area.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Oh Lord, lord Lord, Now, I am not even from
this country. I come from across the Pond. I am
originally from Brazil. Came to England nearly twenty seven years ago,
lived in Ireland, living a bit in Wales, lived in
Grace Canvey Island.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Ended up in Pazzy.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I have known Kvy for a good nearly thirteen years
now and last year reconnecting with Cavey and she shaving
the ideas and we go for walk here and walk there,
especially the other day walking on the field full of
hours and there droppling, so we say the Saint of
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that red bright grass and the smell of the cow saint.
He took me back to childhood, which it's what I
used to do what I'm doing now as an adult,
exploring the wood, connecting with the nature around me and
talking to the earth, listening to the Earth's stories.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Like I said, like I take you to all the
best places my life.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You're doing your cows well when you think, my darling,
you talk me to your twelve century church that.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Has a nights babies in there.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
You know a lot of the things that I read
as a child that was should do with King Arthur's
and all of that time and ere.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
That you guys know, there is no way that would
be happening where I come from. So to now be
on a lane where all of these talk place or
a place and thank you care before they me there.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's not me, darling. I've along for the journey as
much as you guys.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Regid stopped driving us.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
They are regent from be so pagient with me and raising.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
All the magic is wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So we've all kind of fallen into sort of like
a little routine in the last six months that this started.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, there's so much has already happened that.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We thought, you know, like bring it to put it
out there a little bit more, because this is like
the essence, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
This is the source of spirituality.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We're following guides, you know, we're following spirit messages and
fame messages and galactic cosmic messages and god knows what else,
and it can get a little crazy at times.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Malena and myself obviously are quite first in the weirder side,
shall we say, of spirituality. But guys, you're quite new
to this. So this last six months there has been
a bit of a journey for you to, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, Yeah, definitely for me. I've never done anything eyes
before we like, but that is quite enjoyable. A lot
of get a lot of insight, a lot of things
come through. So I'm happy I've started it and carry.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
On with it. Yeah, like a light down, But I've
had a little bit more sort of a I did
sort of have an idea of what it quite possibly
could be like because of my interests and sort of
mine and Kerry's previous incarnations with podcasting and working together
and sort of going on ghost hunts and stuff like that.
(08:36):
So I did have an inkling of what might be
coming along.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, it's always gets a little bit crazy when I'm involved,
doesn't it. So first of all, let's look at the
term then for people who might not realize what I'm
actually talking about or what we're talking about tonight, because
this really kind of comes under the psychic questing, doesn't it. So, Richard,
(09:03):
do you want to give a brief overview as to
what is psychic questing?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Well, for a lot of people who have probably heard
the term, they probably think it's quite a modern term,
but the actual sort of concept of psychic questing this
is probably as old as time itself, and you sort
of it is sort of like going out to discover
a lot of people will say all buried treasure, but
(09:29):
not necessarily it's going out to find treasures or artifacts
or even hidden sort of knowledge or just to expand
your own sort of inner spiritual knowledge. And the way
you go about this is not the traditional historical route
by researching books and stuff, where that is important, but
you also use your intuition because the school of thought
(09:53):
here is your intuition, and you're sort of like your
spiritual side is also important and you can gain a
lot of insight and this and this part can also
direct you to certain areas and from what I can
gather sort of like looking throughout history, there's a few
sort of like famous cases. I mean, you could argue
that Joan of Arc was sort of acting on divine
(10:19):
inspiration and interpretation and she sort of a trapped down
a sword in a French in a French church that
was sort of buried beneath an altar, and that was
sort of like and that is documented fact, you know,
So she was led there by her sort of spiritual intuition.
(10:41):
And it also goes back to Tibetan times as well,
sort of right back to the sort of like the
far Eastern mysticism, where where a Tibetan master in the
eighth or ninth century hid these sort of like truths
and even our facts for future and for the future
(11:03):
for future sort of people to actually go and find
them when the time was right. And some of these artifacts,
it is said by the Tibetan community, are still coming
up today and this is still quite a big part
of their religious sort of structure, going out and to
discover these truths that were secreted wherever in the world.
(11:29):
All those years ago and sort of building on that,
and I think it's sort of lay dormant for a while,
but it wasn't until sort of like the late seventies
early nineteen eighties here in the UK in particular, psychic
questing was brought to the light by the likes of
(11:51):
Andy Collins and Graham Phillips. And I don't know if
you want to carry on their carry more to do, like.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, I agree totally with everything you've said, and the
Andy Collins and Grand Phillips will come in more on
a later date. The relevancy of their work will come
in more at a later date in regards to understanding
how this plays out. Sometimes now within that you're using
spiritual tools and that's kind of where my Lana and
(12:23):
myself come into play really with that, and we're teaching
you guys that spiritual essence of it as well while
we're on it. So for myself, when I'm working in
the field, I'm just say very much in the present,
just being open to everything and everything shows itself to me.
It's kind of just like it just feels like if
(12:46):
you follow what you feel, that's where it leads. And
that's I'm still learning that understanding of that relationship within myself.
But somebody who's a lot more practiced at that and
has led the way and quite a lot of the
adventures of things has been Marlina.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
How is it for you the psychic questing?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's put it quite coldly in the physical but from
a spiritual perspective, from your perspective, how does how does
it play.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
For you in the field?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
For me.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Stain as you know, Fabamoda is on the playout today.
We just said the question again because the brain it's
like a little seafer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So when we're working, when you're working spiritually in the field,
how does the psychic questing work for you?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
In regard to you? What tools do you use?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, because we're we're very active with it, as
in we get pulled to it. It's that's a physical pall,
isn't it when we feel something in the field. But
that's very different for some of the other tools that
people use, like dowsing rods and things like that.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So tell me how it works for you.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Well for me, as you know, I am an earth healer,
so therefore I have a very strong and deep connection
with the environments around me, especially the earth and nature itself.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
So when we are out there, it's like almost the
flesh and bone.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Where separates the boundary is no longer there. It melts
in within the energy of the environment that I am in,
So I become one with that place and you feel
the pool. I kind of feel slightly different. I usually
(14:39):
feel the pool, but now has changed. I feel as
if there is something in me that does not belong there.
It's of a different mative you, a different consistent sort
of thing, and that is where I know where to
kind of just go for things. But I love how
we both work together because need that isn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did you have a balance reality? Yeah, that's like my
Lana works high and I work quite low. Now, Darryl
Brand spanking you to.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The spiritual journey and your spiritual gifts when you started
six months ago. For you, you was like, I'm not psychic.
I'm a psychic as a stick.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, And I didn't think of anything of it. You know,
first of all, I thought I'd give it a triacy.
It goes, and you know, I've had a lot of insights.
I mean, I've been drawn to a lot of places
that I've gone there and then that has led me
to go somewhere else. A lot of personal things come
out as well in my personal journey in this as well.
It's led me to places that I've never go I'm
(15:46):
going to go to churches. I've never been to your
church in your life. Nearly every weekend to go to
a different church. It's quite enjoyable. Yeah, it's It's not
a place that sort of six months a year ago
i'd ever be. It's completely changed my outlook towards life,
(16:07):
you know what I mean. I mean it's changed me.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
I know it's changed me. Other people have noticed the
change in me as well, which is good for me.
I'm happy with that as well.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The insights that you get though, come from a very
different place to where you would normally expect, don't they.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So when you're working, when you're out in the field
with us working, you've had times where things have happened
that you can only put down to spirit.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean this will
probably come out later on, but I mean, yeah, it
was all to do with the psychic world that we
went through and everything else. And there was my one
there was a necklace and I just dream about this necklace, and.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Me and Richard went out a few weeks ago to
this church and we was walking around and all that,
and then I got to the gate because it was
supposed to be sort of the doorway where the church was.
There was supposed to be a saracen stone in there,
but we didn't find that, but that was it. So
we looked about and then we carried on walking around again,
and then I walked back again, and then hanging on
(17:23):
the gate sort of thing that goes into the church,
there was a necklace and it was exactly what I
dreamed of, which I thought, well, that's weird, you know
what I mean, And that that completely changed my mind. Well, well,
I mean I dreamt it and there it is. So
it's not worthing it It's just like a bit of jewelry.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
But it shows that spirit is there, showing me that
they are there, I mean, which I wouldn't have thought
six months ago. No, I wouldn't think nothing about it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now, Yeah, that was a nice That was a nice
bit of confirmation for you.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Was definitely a nice bit of confirmation. I mean, if
I was a disbeliever, that changed it in an instant.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Because the funny thing is, I've been around that doorway
before Daryl walked around there, because because we both sort
of turned up at the church and we both went
off on our own a good old nose round, and
I'm convinced, well, I'm telling you now, there was nothing there.
When I looked at that door, there was nothing hanging
off those railings, because I would have seen it. But
(18:34):
you know, but when I walked back round with Darryl
a bit later, there it.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Was there was no one there either, was there to
put it there.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'd just like to point out it was costume jewelry.
We're not talking about anything with value.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Here at all, Villians.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It was costume jewelry.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But it was the fact that it was exactly how
you had envisaged in your vision, wasn't it in your
in your mind sighed what you'd see was what appeared.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I mean the one I dreamed I was a bit
more extravagant of what that was, but it's the same.
I mean I dreamt that it was like it was
a chain coming down and it split into three either
side of it, and then it come down to a pendum,
which is exactly what I found.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I think that's the one thing I think as always
sort of like shocks me.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You get what you need, you don't necessarily get.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What you want, right, So we would all love to
go out and get questing and find the diamond necklaces.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Or the swords or the breast, you know, a Viking
horde or something. You know, we're all we're all very
what we've been given.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Though on this quest it's just some amazing personal things
like artifacts, like I've got a staff that was gifted
to me in a moment that the Veritie Mary was
very prevalent in what I was experiencing in moment. And
it could be a crushed up cup, it could be
(20:06):
the smallest feather, it could be something. But it's the
timing and the relevancy of that that makes it so
key in that moment, isn't it Because if you listen
and listening here we'll go, Okay, a little weird, he
had a dream, found a necklace. But this is consistent,
this has been consistent over the six months.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Isn't it validation for me? I mean it doesn't matter
what other people think. I mean, yeah, they could think that,
but to me, it's validation. You know what I mean,
because and it's exactly the same as what I dreamt exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You mentioned the church factor, So let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Let's talk about that side of it, because one thing
they don't tell you on the psychic qrusty side of
things when they first kick you off on it and
spirit kick you off on it. Is all I'm going
to say. Because how this all started will unfold as
we continue with this journey. But the fundamentals are all
of a sudden you find yourself going to churches. Now,
(21:06):
I was brought up CV through the general you know,
because you know system in the UK, right, So my
basis of belief is c V. Now I don't go
to church. I don't worship God. I don't you know
bind that mythology or theology should I say at all?
(21:26):
But it's my underlying deep psychological kind of like moral standing.
That's where that comes from. Darryl with you was brought
up in the same CV.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Richard mar Lane.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Roman Catholic, but.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
None of us practiced.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I did.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I did practice until engageing relationships.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That is when I kind of stepped away off the
path because obviously they were from slightly different paths than mine.
But since becoming on my well flying solos, i'll we say,
I was able to step back into my Catholic faith
(22:22):
and practices, especially having young children, so to me was
important they had a little bit of knowledge to me
felt spiritually it was important that I give those children that.
But once I understood that my purpose was here for
(22:43):
far more than I envisioned to be, then I understood
that I had to bring in all of my roots,
and that been the indigenous ancestry that I have on
my father's side and the Catholic roots from my mother's.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
But for me, the most incredible thing is I was.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Able to bridge both and find my little star and
embrace who I am and being able to be both
the Roman Catholic, not go to the church, but practicing
the religious core essence and full embrace my crazy spirituality
(23:25):
because it does get crazy, as you know sometimes you.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Guys will find out as we carry on throughout this journey,
is all I'm going to say. Right, so we end
up at a lot of churches, guys, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Why.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Why?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think whatever is we've tapped into is coming to
us through our frame of reference, something that we will
understand and all being from a sort of life Christian background,
whether whether practicing or not, we are familiar with the
stories and the sort of like the iconography and stuff.
(24:09):
So my sort of theory on that act is we
have been shown the way through our and the way,
and we will understand it through our sort of Christian viewpoint, like.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
A comfortable framework.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, instead of sort of really sort of where and
wherever this sort of information is coming from. I mean,
I don't know. It may be coming from, you know,
a purely Christian sort of and perhaps Jesus is up there, yes,
go there, go there. But I think we've all got
the idea that this information does come from an older source,
(24:50):
but it's been framed to us in a more familiar
even though it's archaic, it's been framed with us in
a more familiar way.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But also I think no matter, like when we look
at history and you look at what where people worship,
you know, we know that churches were built on top
of older worshiped sites, not all of them, but there's
a lot of them that were look at.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Grinston Church, Saint Andrew's.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think you know, when you look at that, that is.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Fundamental.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Also in being led that way because it's always brought
into that it's.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Almost like sacred ground.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's almost like it's its strongest at these node points
of churches. Or we followed the Saracen stones at one point,
which again led us back to churches. It kind of
leads us I feel like the biggest church go are
going now when I never used to ever go to
a church.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It feels a little well, I think we've all theologically
und balanced.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But it's not, is it, I think? But I think
we've all benefited from it. Oh how to the yeir,
you know, in our own personal lives sort of like
even away from the quest, you know, it's sort of
like we're going to church. You know, we're actually going
to church services and we're not just sort of like
and originally we thought, how are we going to gain
(26:22):
access to this church? We're going to have to go
to a church service to actually sort of get in
and have a look. But now you know, it's sort
of like, you know, we want to go to these
church services because we are getting something more out of
it as opposed to just gaining access to a building.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I have to say, we're not even adverse to
any church service. This is, if we had the opportunity,
we would just as happily go along to a Jewish
service as we would. You know, we've gone to a
Celtic service, We've gone to a spiritual church service, We've
done Saint Paul's Cathedral serviuce, we've done local church services
(27:06):
at various times of the year, which.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have you know, been important and whatnot have felt as
much of a devotion.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Now that leads us actually to the Virgin Mary, because
on this quest, the first point of that led us to,
as Daryl mentioned earlier, as Sacred Well. Now again this
is there's so much information, we're trying to keep it
quite succinct, but the Sacred Well is actually dedicated to
(27:36):
the Virgin Mary. It's called the Virgin Mary Sacred Well,
isn't it more or less?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, So within that, that's a very different concept to
asking you to believe in God or to believe in
you know, Jesus Christ himself.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's the Virgin Mary. It means something different, doesn't it.
It has a different resonance Malina.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
But there is many aspects where the Virgin maybe really
came in to me.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
If you like for the four of us, especially for
Darvu and.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Richard being the males of the group, it's like it's
to really lead us back to the sacredness within us
all and sometimes you got to take us back to
that sacred spot in the middle of a farmer's field.
(28:46):
But it's bringing in the bodies of water and earth
where it all comes from, the creation, isn't it. We
plant seeds on earth, give us fruit, give us whatever
we have planted. The water comes deep from within. So
to me, it's been an incredible journey, and a new
(29:08):
Virgin may would be stepping up quite a lot because
of the changes that is going on within usoul and
on our personal journey is really to take us back
to the sacred this within a zol but also goes
a little bit deeper than that, the mysteries that never
been explored or looked at before, because especially with the
(29:29):
religions context, this has always been about God, Jesus and
the saints, but virgin maybe never seemed to held such
a strong importance. And part of that is that makes
sense scary so far.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh totally to me.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Boys with Darryl, what about for you, because this is
a very like I'm telling you a bit about the
divine feminine and the Virgin Mary, and this is coming
up in the question we go the well for you
no disrespect, and I think it'll be the first to agree.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You're a blokes bloke kind of man, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You work in a very male orientated business with the
laborers and the electricians and the it's very masculine.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
Definitely. Yeah, I mean it's not a place I thought
it would be.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
But as you go to the well, I mean it's
it's it's a calming place and I mean it's it's
it's in the middle of the field, so it's it's.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
It's different, you know what I mean. You could go
somewhere and it'll be quiet, but it's it's more serene,
you know what I mean. It's it's a different feeding
that there's there's definitely something there. I mean, yeah, it was.
I mean apparently there used to be the little church
now whatever it was, which.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Was it God Chapel Chapel and all that there, But
that will come out further wrong in the in the podcast,
I suppose.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
But not this one. But yeah, I mean it's it's yeah,
I'm a very blokey bloke. So it's very strange, is it.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Is it like.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Challenging you and your perceptions in regards to how you
view masculine and feminine.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Uh, yeah, yeah, it's just it's not a question for me,
isn't it really? Because I'm more as you say, I'm
more of a masculine side, and I'm not. I'm only
just sort of coming into the spiritual side. So for me,
it's new territory to try and get the head around.
If you understand that, to.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Be fair, the fact that you feel something different in
that place is a massive start to get past that
expectation of yourself in and it's an expectation on yourself
what you should be as a masculine And if I
act in a different way, then I'm weak, you know
what I mean When you actually go into that, you
go into the well area with and it literally feels
(32:11):
like expectation falls off you.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Yeah, and I don't feel like that going in that place.
I mean I would have thought about, yeah, I'm weak,
you know, But now I don't know, I'll see it
in a different way. I mean, I don't think I'm
weak in any way really like that is no, No,
not at all.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But you would have done before.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
That's definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Your perceptions about what a divine masculine, divine feminine should
be are starting to change because of the Virgin Mary.
Because of that, that essence will go with that feeling
that you've.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Got at the well.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Bearing in mind, Darrel, when you first came onto the quest,
it's like we've pinpointed it on the map, and now
first outing was actually to the well. Yeah, because I
had to run you through like what had happened up
to that point to get to go to the well
Before we went to the well?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
That kidscoped in.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, you started this like probably a couple of weeks before,
or it was who actually came into it, didn't I?
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Yeah, I should say so, yeah it was I was
told you told I was going to come in.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
There I am, which yeah, to be fair, we knew
it was going to happen. We just didn't know when,
isn't that right?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
My lane?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It was like, well when's coming?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Then it was.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
It was the craziest day, just the comment and the
conversation and then spirit, oh, well, she don't need to
worry the man with the vuns coming in.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Anyway, Yeah, we knew that was.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You is to know and I'm like Daryl, that's the one.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Really.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So anyway, we get going to lots of churches recapping,
we ended up going to the well. Now, before we
go any further, let's talk about the land itself in Essex,
because this is all very prevalent in regards to There's
a lot of what has happened. You guys out there
listening need to catch up on this, but we will
(34:34):
fill you in. But the landscape itself is incredibly important
because Essex in the UK is literally outside London. It's
attached to London and nowadays it's almost like an expansion
of out in London, isn't it Richard.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yes, we are what are called one of the Home counties.
It's one of the six or seven counties that make
up London.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So throughout history we have quite a st rategic positioning
in regards to importance because about the logistical closest to London.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yes, especially this part of the county we are talking about,
which is the southern half. We are basically sort of
hugging along the Thames foreshore from let's save south end
all the way down to Tilbury and inland from there about. Well,
I don't think we've really sort of wandered much more
(35:30):
than ten miles inland from the River Thames. So all
our sort of work and our sort of insights and
stuff seem to be coming within that general locale, which
is very historically rich you can earn considering the coastline,
(35:52):
you know, considering what Essex was. You know, there's been
a lot of work done down on the Thames foreshore
drain and stuff. I mean, the coastline now is not
what you would have sworn seen, you know, sort of
like a thousand years ago. So we are working around that.
I mean, and you are talking recorded settlements sort of
(36:16):
really from Roman times onwards, and there does seem to
be a continuous settlement, you know, there's no break there.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
No, it's yeah, it's relevant historically Forgin Marlene. Now when
you get psychic messages, obviously we're picking up on a
lot of different time periods going through it. In fact,
I think at one point Richard said, we've kind of
hitting so many different time periods it was hard to
separate all the different threads of.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
What we were being told and what we were being following.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
And I think for me, one of the most things
that stands out in my head there was a night
where they'd given you an image of a uniform and
this was so in your mind and if you could
have got it out of here and down onto a
piece of paper, because I think we.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Spent about half an hour just trying.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
To minutely describe how this uniform looks to the frustration.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
In all honesty, let's be fair, there was a lot
of frustration. We are human folks. We do have these
moments about among ourselves.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Where you know, we were like, we know what you're saying,
but we can't find the relevant picture on Google to
you know, to sort of like show you and go, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's definitely it when you get stuff like that, because.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Obviously, you know, you've got very limited historical knowledge in
regards to England because although you've lived here, you're Brazilian, right,
your roots aren't.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
So I had the knowledge when it comes to geography
and history, it's totally completely different than what we.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Are coming across. Yeah, it's quite frustrating.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Trying to work it out what era, what does it
mean that I go right trying to describe a picture
that has been printed in your mind's eye.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yeah, it's it can be quite frustrating sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
It's like when Marlene says, all she can sort of
see a night. All she gets an impression of a night,
and there's me, My historical brain goes what sort of night?
And I'll be talking to the eleventh century night, twelfth
century night, the fourteenth century night. Yeah, and they are
in different but you know, but we do manage to
work away through it eventually.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I think I think what astounds me.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's like I've just been because obviously we record all
the conversations we have regarding the questions on her personal side,
and I remember doing that transcript at that time, and
then Richard shed an image into just as what that
group we've got going on am I line and nearly
we're a nickers because she.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Was like, that's it, That's why I was saying. And
it all sort of again, it was like it all
just sort of like happened at the same time, didn't it.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that was the incredible thing.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
And that is where I.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Really count my blessings because my team are so incredible
that they make sure the very important detail that will
really distinguish one to the other, that the very one
that defies the ole.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
It's there.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
They find their way to bring it to my visual
so I can go, yeah, we got it.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I have to say that we have gained when Darryl
stepped onto the quest, we gained a kind of like
tech whiz with his phone. Because you like your apps,
don't you, Because like we're very much like everything has
a meaning. So sometimes you get called to a plant
and you go, that's where elevant, But I don't know
how or why because I've got no idea what plant is.
(40:04):
And along comes Daryl with his little act, doesn't he
And he is there and he goes to that say,
and it's always relevant in that moment.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 7 (40:13):
Oh yes, it's flowers, trees, feathers, anything.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's one of the good advantages of the sort of
like questing psychic questing, because you can you can use
the modern with the old. I mean we're not like
relying totally on the spiritual. I mean there is room
for the historical as well. So it does take you
a bit of time to sort things out, but you know,
(40:39):
they both compliment each other.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
Oh, it's a lot quicker though, isn't it. I mean,
if you have technology twenty thirty years ago when I
to what you're right now. But I mean, yeah, it'd
be a lot harder than we wouldn't be this far
in request.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I don't think if we didn't have the technology we've
got to day, because it cuts a lot of corners,
doesn't cut. It gets you there a lot quicker. Any
other instead of going through libraries and things like that,
you just pick your phone up. You can find it
straight away.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Reading other quest accounts from the sort of like the
late nineteen cent the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen agies,
there's been a few individual sort of books and stuff
out there, and yeah, I mean they didn't have what
we've got now got access to now, and you can
(41:32):
appreciate sort of like the footwork they must have put
in sort of through records officers and stuff like that.
And fortunately now a lot and not everything, but a
lot is available online to sort of like get access
to quite quickly.
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Oh yeah, I mean if you were they went to
the record's office and things like that, I mean it's
a lot of legwork. But now, yeah, wind out online.
Don't know worry about more or less.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
You. Yeah, there is a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
There's a lot more a fingertips, which from a psychic perspective,
it moves a lot quicker, do you know what I mean?
Because you can validate things as you go, and then
you can pull the meaning out as they go, and
then that leads you quicker, you know, And we are
sort of standing on the shoulders of other people's research
at times. Thank you, Thank you, God, thank you so
much because he has saved us the donkey.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
Work and God has time, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Is it for me the paranormal when I came, you know,
I came from a paranormal background as much as Richard did.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
That's very much focused on skepticism and debunk, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yah, Psychic testing is basically allowing that to open and
not debunk everything.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's almost like allowing it all to come in together,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's diffective from the paranormal, So Richard, you know that's
a very different viewpoint from the traditional para normal ghost
time kind of community.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well, yeah, and it certainly is. And even I'm still
having to even through my written work, I have to
be objective in what I write, you know, because a
lot of times this is asked for by the editors.
They want balance the sort of articles balanced, the reporting
and stuff. You know, you have to present both sides.
(43:25):
And you know, and I'm very aware of that when
I'm actually doing the questing, because I know I'm pushing,
I'm going over, I'm allowing myself to go over more
to the spiritual sort of like side of things than
what I would professionally do. But yeah, that is just
(43:45):
the way it is.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
But I think it's about keeping it balanced.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, I think that's the key. If I was it's
if I was to send the story so far off
to an editor and say, oh, this is what I'm
doing and sort of stuff like that, you'll probably just
look at it laugh and say yeah, okay, next please.
So you know, I do have to be sort of
(44:13):
like balanced, and it does come through sometimes during the
question where I will rely on my sort of knowledge
and stuff bus to the annoyance of the girls. I
know that is just me, and you know, and I
always sort of try and sort of say to you
girls and goes, well, and how do you know, I
(44:36):
wasn't supposed to say that, you're very knowledgeable that sort
of stuff. Well, yes, and yes and no, you know,
but there's certainly something here. I mean, I wouldn't have
given up donated for a year so far, or quite
a bit of time doing this if it wasn't productive
(44:58):
in any way and it was leading somewhere. I must
admit I was a bit frustrated at the start, you know,
I thought, when's it going to get going? When's it
going to get going? But now I feel things are
getting going and our focus is narrowing. I'm still not
too sure and what sort of dime frame we're looking at,
(45:20):
but I think we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
So our first church that we got led to was
a church called Saint Mary's in Runwell. That's sort of
like being adjacent alongside like the Sacred Wow, hasn't it
is the Saint Mary's Church in Runwell. And we had
a moment where we've been led down many different pathways
(45:47):
and it all kind of coagulated onto Saint Mary's. Yet
the first time we went to that church, we didn't
really pay much attention because we couldn't get inside the church.
We kind of did that left really quickly. Do you
remember that first visit to Saint Mary's.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I'm trying to think we've been there the first visit, Yes,
I do. It seems such a long time ago. We
were sort of we were sort of just wandering around
and we were very very enthusiastic, but I don't think
we really knew what we were doing, the type sort
of thing. You know, we're looking at everything and look
(46:29):
at that, you know, Oh, look at that gravestone and
it's a bit crooked. Is that a sign? You know?
But the more we've been doing this, I mean, you
do hone to skill and we do generally seem to
hone in on things now which are a lot more relevant.
Like before, we had a lot of background sort of
(46:50):
noise coming in and we were picking up all sorts
of stuff and nothing was really directing us anywhere particular.
But now I think, and the more we're involved in this,
we do we have certainly got some sort of aim
point to aim at, and it's still within the local area.
(47:14):
I mean, I can't see us traveling much further than
what we have done already. I think we've initiated the boundary.
It's just the case now of narrowing that down.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
See Saint Mary's is strange because we still haven't been
inside that one. No, and it's such a hub of
all the information. It's all like coagulated onto this one church.
We knew our next step which was to go to
a service there, Yeah, to actually have a look inside.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
And we still haven't been inside it. Possibly we shall see.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
How that Marlena, the very first time you went to
that church, can you remember your impressions of the graveyard,
because that's.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
What we looked at, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (48:11):
Yeah, you're talking senter me everything run well, yeah, yes,
I am. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
Well what a beautiful little church. I was in all
of it, because obviously it's just beautiful. But I would
say it talks a lot, has a lot to say.
Unless you really spend the time and really tune into
(48:37):
the place, it's just going to be muffled noise in
the background. But there is definitely a lot, a lot
of mystery, I would say, a lot of treasure, but
richness in history and folk lore. As someone says, but
I don't believe the folk world thing. I stick with
it did happen, you just didn't believe it back then.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
You frame something, it's only how you frame something.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
That's the one isn't it. But yeah, as you say,
definitely we do get back there. But somehow there are
things that it hasn't played out yet.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Interesting, very interesting times, I feel interesting.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
But there is a particular corner there. Oh, I can't
wait to go back there and hear what they got
to say.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
You picked up the first time we went to that churchyard.
I think we both did. Actually it was quite a
while back when we first went there. Yeah, right, and
we picked up, didn't we?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
We did beautiful, beautiful pine cones.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
And then I exploded, didn't they?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (49:55):
My God, like fireworks.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
And they left roses. Now, this is quite completely natural.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
This is this is the life cycle of a particular
tree which turns out to be the what is it?
It was a cedar, wasn't it. It's a cedar tree.
And these have basically the symbology of seeds being cast
everywhere was literally from the moment we went to that church.
(50:26):
The whole journey from then on, the seeds of that
they spread on that one just have led us here,
there and everywhere, and it's just been one of the
most crazy journeys going forward.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
So we have recently.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
On a different thread, which is still part of the
plast being cut away a BlackBerry bush. Now, boys, this
must seem bonkers to the average passer by, shall we say?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
You do kind of have to get over your or
worry about what other people think, don't you?
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Well if we're having to deal with the average passer by,
because it's in the middle of nowhere, really, But yes,
it was a bit odd, but I did enjoy the
time we spent there cutting away at the BlackBerry bush.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
It's not your land, it's not your tree, it's not
anything you're going to benefit from. And it was stood
out on a hot summer's evening, cutting away at a
blackberuybush because spirit of guided you to a specific spot
a specific time, on a specific day.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Because that came out from a message that Daryl received. No,
that wasn't the church there. That was a Hadney Castle,
wasn't it. Yeah, how did we get sent to Handey Castle? Daryl?
When we was at Thundersy Church?
Speaker 3 (52:01):
That was Yeah?
Speaker 4 (52:02):
That was when I was sitting there. Uh, I was
sitting there and you said look over there. I could
see I could see something grave through the trees. And
then I sort of you said, I have a good
look at I looked at it, and it looked like
first of all, it looked like, uh, the shape of
a person with a what they called.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
There's a robe on we were hood and all that,
and then I got that.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Sort of message. And then then it changed and it
looked like that it was someone in a suit of armor.
So you said, like, go over and have a look,
didn't you. So I walked over there, and I was
looking at it, and you said like, look at look
at the look at the gravestone, and me being me
(52:51):
being a bloke, and I was just picking up the
fund and all that.
Speaker 7 (52:54):
The font to me, the font didn't look right. But
I mean, but it wasn't that wasn't wasn't what I
was looking for. And the name on it was Albert.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
I can't remember the first name. The next name and
it was Castle, and I mean one of my one
of my guys, I suppose you call it, isn't it is?
Speaker 7 (53:15):
His name is Burt? And which is where the the
like which drew me over there? The Albert, so I mean,
and then the castle and then it it made me
think and then I'm sorry. There was a date on
it as well, which was the seventeenth of June seventeenth
(53:37):
of June, which was only two days away from when
it was over. I think it was or three days.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
And then.
Speaker 7 (53:45):
I think Kerry said, well, where's where's the castles around here?
I said, the only castle I know is Hadney Castle,
which led us to Handley Castle on that date, wasn't
it was on that day? And I mean that's where
I found I mean, everyone gets there. I found my tree.
(54:07):
That's where my trees over there, So I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (54:12):
It was quite insightful that and there was another other
things that were that appened over there. They'll probably come
out later on or whatever, but yeah, that's that's we
got there.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
But you had an integral meeting. I'd read in the
cards that there was a meeting that was important. That
why do we have to go to Handy Castle? Privately,
I had to look at the cards and they come
up a meeting and.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'm like, that's weird. Okay, so we're going to there's
an integral meeting that's going.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
To take place.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
I think Pete's I think it's Pete. I've got one
more Instagram there anyway, But yeah, I mean, and he
was fine a drone and he was flying a drone.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Yeah, and I mean I've always I said to me
I wanted to get Yeah, I bought one drive first
of all, bought one of a team.
Speaker 7 (54:57):
You you know what team is like.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
There's nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
There are other people available to buy stuff from to
just like to add.
Speaker 7 (55:09):
Got the drone out as you do. You don't really
the instructions.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
You just stick your hands on the controls smack when
it was a gash on the TV.
Speaker 7 (55:18):
So that never flew it again. Richard knows about that
with Flowers, didn't you, Richard? But yes, you can tell
about that one in a little while. I mean, Kerry
got uh something through saying that we've got to look
from above.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
We've always been told by the girls we've got to
go high. We've got to go high.
Speaker 7 (55:39):
Yeah, now we've got a drone.
Speaker 3 (55:42):
And now we've got a drone, so we go you
like girls?
Speaker 7 (55:45):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't tried it yet.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
No, but fortunately Will Darryl was good enough to buy
one for his trusts anyway, but certainly oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (56:08):
For us all of you know, I mean, we could go.
Speaker 8 (56:19):
When are you bringing it over, Darryl?
Speaker 7 (56:22):
How to fly first fly?
Speaker 1 (56:28):
And that's an adventure for another day. I feel you
might have to record that one, guys. I think that
needs to go out as a TikTok funny.
Speaker 7 (56:38):
In the ground.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Where are we going from here? I mean literally, we're
in the middle of We're in the right in the
middle of the crest. So we're picking up this podcast
and we're bringing it to you.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Guys. There's going to be a lot backwards and forwards.
There's probably going to be a whistle stop tour through
varying historical you know, things that are becoming integral in
that moment, and it all becomes very confusing at times.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
How do you keep that balance in there? You know, like,
how do you work out what's the batshit crazy, what
it means, what it doesn't mean. How do you just
allow the surrender to it and just go with the
flow with it, because that is always a bone.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Of contention at times, isn't it. I like the way
nobody answers.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
And we all get a lot knockouts, otherwise you will
be still doing it fine. Timings always with me a
little bit, but something I'm used my.
Speaker 6 (57:44):
Explain that timing, well, the divine timing.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
It's that little thing that you want to do certain things,
and yet you cannot seem to be able to get
the flow and the go with it. And you are trying,
you are trying, but nothing is happening. Like the clock,
you're trying to get it to work, but it's not going.
Then all of a sudden, everything comes in. You pick
(58:13):
things up and you're out there.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
So again it's one up.
Speaker 5 (58:18):
Until you, guys, really become very one with your environment,
you will be able to really understand to a tee
how the divine time works. As I said, the best way.
Speaker 6 (58:31):
Like a plant.
Speaker 5 (58:31):
You can't rush a plant to grow. You plant it
and you're gonna allow it to just do its thing.
And time and energetic flow, that's the time.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
You don't know.
Speaker 5 (58:43):
It comes from the gads. And I have a very
strong intuition, and I just listen to my intuition. People
are saying things, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (58:53):
Feeling in here right what you're saying. What you're saying.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
So practice to really trust your intuition, to really trust
the cosmos, spirits, the universe, that everything has its own
motion and you just get a lift on that motion
and everything just flows.
Speaker 7 (59:14):
The plant and energy was good. Yeah, you can't. I
mean it will grow. It will grow when it's got
to grow, when you can't fulce it. I mean, my my,
my plant.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
I bought out my garden. I mean it's that lily,
I think, isn't it. But I mean I get into
the bud and I'm thinking, come on, come on, it's been.
Speaker 7 (59:33):
It's been, and I went out.
Speaker 8 (59:36):
There to die to water it, and there is beautiful
when it was ready, and I'm just.
Speaker 6 (59:48):
A key to it.
Speaker 5 (59:50):
Patience, you learn patience and everything will come together.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
And on that note, did you.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Find timing taking over now this show because we have
actually come to the end of the show. Please join
us in two weeks time for another installment. Things will
start flowing a little better. We need to fill you
in on the background to start with.
Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
On that note, say good night, guys, good
Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Night everyone, thank you, and good night, good night.
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