July 30, 2025 • 59 mins
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St Mary's Runwell - There is a very thin veil between the physical and the spiritual, so what happens when the two worlds collide, beyond messages?
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St Mary's Runwell - There is a very thin veil between the physical and the spiritual, so what happens when the two worlds collide, beyond messages?
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Our Lady’s Well, Runwell, Essex
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello, and welcome to Life's Quest Episode two. Good evening, guys,
how are you? Yeah? It's been an interesting few weeks,
I mean, God, trying to keep up with the torid,
the recording and how things unfold and still stay in
the present moment is so challenging, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Tell me about?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I've only just got the hang of it after
all these weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know. Right tonight's episode, we're going to follow
a thread that kind of started right at the beginning,
and we've had the local walk. We've had this insight
about a well, and on our attempts at trying to
find a sacred well in our local area or wherever,
we found that there was a boxing day walk from
(01:05):
a chat to a sacred well in a village that
wasn't that far away from where all of us lived,
in a place called run Well. So obviously our interest
was drawn to the church Saint Mary's there and the
well itself. But we at this time, when we first
came across this, we were incredibly well focused, won't we
(01:29):
We were?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I would say so. We've done a bit of
preliminary but I still feel myself this was our first
sort of outing from you know, things new girls had
sort of like picked up pond because I was quite
new to this, so I was just going along with
you girls. But I don't feel it was our sort
of first major sort of outing somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It really was, wasn't it. It was like, we've got
to go and have a ok at this well. Now,
I live in this area, and I knew obviously about
Runwell as a place because of the psychiatric hospital that
was there, and from the paranormal side, we'd sort of
like come across it, but I've never actually visited Runwell. Mylnea,
(02:17):
I take it you didn't even have a clue that
there was a place called Runwell or did you know
that well.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Funny enough, I used to work in Runwell, not very
far of the Sacred Well, if you like. And so yeah,
at the first time that Richard drove in that particular
road that I recognize this place. I recognize this place.
(02:47):
And as we got to that point where we turn right,
and then it clicked, I think the road does not
end in there after all, It actually leads to such
a beautiful sacred place. And I was just gob smarked
because after working in there, for a good four years.
After three years not going into that road at all,
(03:08):
all of a sudden, I'm back there, and how amazing
it has been.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
What about you? Did you know about Running Well?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I had a fague idea through sort of doing sort
of reading in the past. You know, that has come
up in some in some texts which I'm quite interested
in with authors I follow, But I never thought I
would ever actually go to the place. And I knew
I knew run Well was sort of somewhere near Whitford,
but that was about it, really, And it wasn't until
(03:46):
I've done a bit more digging when this sort of
came up on the table that I sort of we
found out that allegedly still existed and found a few
photos and a couple of articles. It's not that well
published online, so we just really took it from there. Unfortunately, yes,
(04:07):
we managed to get to it first hit We didn't
have to wander about for too long.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But we went to the church first, didn't we And
it wasn't open so we couldn't go in. So it
was just like having a meand around the church, like
the graveyard area, and that was really like sort of
like our first port of call before we actually went
to the well, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
From a psychic perspective, when we enter that space and
we go into it, we can notice bits and bobs,
should we say, they have a relevancy to what journey
we're on now. At this particular occasion, conquers were really key.
Now this is we're looking at late November so and
(04:54):
we're looking right outside a bus stop and these are great, big,
juicy conquers and they called it right. So we collected
a load of conquers. And then we found a sycamore,
no sorry, a cedar, get that right, because between a
cedar tree and there was a branch of the tree
(05:14):
has some beautiful pine cones on the really tight pine cones,
so it'd naturally fallen off the tree. We didn't pull
it off the tree, and we took that with us
as well. Richard is obviously you know, and Daryl was
with us at the time. He's we don't quite know
what's going on with He's off on a different planet
(05:36):
of his own at the minute. I think, you know,
these bits and bobs which for us as psychic, so
our having symbolic meanings for you in the moment you
must think, oh my god, what are they doing well?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And I'll be perfectly awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was thinking about this part and today I thought,
or we're going to the location, and I've been listening
to the girls and they've been telling me all this
sort of stuff, because I haven't really becoming tuned to this,
and a little bit later on so I was still
very sort of fresh breed and behind the years. So
I thought, brilliant, first location, brilliant, We'll get there. We're
(06:15):
gonna have signs and wonders, We'll get the Golden Statue
quest done.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think the hardest concept for you in this particular
journey is the divine timing of things, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes? Yes, And it is something that I am getting
a bit sort of more gives to, is you know.
I mean, I think, you know, we had a very
recent trip out where divine timing obviously did play a part,
but that's the latter.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But going back to Saint Mary's, yes, you know, I
was new on the ground and in that sort of thing,
and new girls are off and I didn't quite know
what I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Was supposed to be looking for because I've been to
loads of churches before, and I sort of look at
them more from a historic perspective. I'm going look at
that Norman art, so look at this and you get
also sort of you know, and I found something.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I found something. I'm brilliant and you.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Hold up a pine cot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's flip it then, because at that moment you've got
my Laner in the moment going, I've got the pine
guys to vibe. How is it for you when you
went at these places?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, for me, something very unusual and no one can comprehend.
But it's a feeling that I have where I am
step back in time, step back in in history, and
yet there is no words where I can translate to
what I'm experiencing within the pine cone. To me, obviously
(08:02):
there seeds seeds of creation, the pineal glens and all
of that. So then I am a lover of pine
cons all sorts of size and different shapes, and they
tell a beautiful star. But we are we're just going
to listen.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think the thing with my Liner is I had
to get used to her her.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Collector mania, you know, stones, feathers and ponkers and pine cones,
which is you know at first, but I you know,
I can't see the point and yeah, but but at first.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought, well, well this is going to be fun,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And then from that point we kind of headed off
to the well. And after that, for quite a while
we became quite well focused. We did a few trips
and various high days and holidays of the wicker world
does it wear? Or the moon cycles. But ultimately, in
regards to Saint Mary's, that kind of was it. We
kind of like, it was like at the church. If
(09:06):
we're at the well, now, wasn't it. We kind of
dismissed it, but it kind of became not the relevant point,
that's right, Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
We were other churches, wouldn't we have founder slightly further
afield then within our doughter state. But the St. Maybe's
Church was like almost it wasn't calling us.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Back, not at that point, not for a while. And
I think with the well, now we're onto that. Yes,
we've been there a few times, but the first time everything,
and the second time was quite an Eventually we we
found the sacred world and that sounds good in itself.
(09:54):
Were all punking around and I was falling from one
end to the other because I have to tell the listeners.
I'm not very steady on my feet at the best
of times. And the well is a bit sort of
you know, sort of down an embankment, which I can
tend to get from top to bottom quite quickly if
I'm not too steady on the feet. So when I
(10:16):
go there now, I tend to observe and from above
a new more intrepid lot go down and do the
searching and seeking. But it is a I feel it
is a central point to us. It is important. But
whatever it is we are questing for, which we may
(10:40):
have some ideas about now, it's beyond that. But the
well is the central sort of point, and there's spokes
coming off it which we are heading in and we
will obviously find something following those sort of threads.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's like the center of the web we have to
It feels like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like when you're actually at that well and that and
we was talking to a gentleman yesterday and it's actually
the figure of Saint Mary's in Rommell's Church, and I
was explaining how sacred that space feels in nature, you know,
like when I step into it, I become so centered
(11:28):
and so focused and so dedicated and so sacred. It
feels so sacred to me at that well, it's really
hard not to sort of like you have to kind
of fight the ego of protection over it, because that's
how it makes you feel. It's so sacred to you
that you don't want anybody else to sort of like
encroach on it. But it's not your it's a piece
(11:50):
of nature. So it's it's almost like a lesson in
getting out of your own ego stay of protection in
that place. And that's a very sacred honor space because.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That place, I do see it has a sort of
a profound effect on you carry and when we don't
sort of and sort of myself and Darryl, you know,
we keep well away from you when you're in that
sort of zone. We sort of hide in the background
while you're off. We dare interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
No, because for me, that's something I'm claiming. It's it's
I need my focus and concentration on that moment. I
don't need the distraction in the physical as it were,
because I'm not in the physical effectively. I'm now in
that space and it talks to you and it's almost
like pulling you out of one reality into like one dimension,
(12:45):
should I say, into another dimension? It disrupts that energy.
But when you're in or when I'm in that space,
the well space, I feel like I need to be
so focused and concentrated because my whole devotion is there
in that space of why I'm there, what I'm doing,
my faith, my trust is there. Do you know what
(13:08):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
For me?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's just how it feels for me. And in a way,
I now have an appreciation of churches because I can
see how that provides that space on a community basis.
It's not just about you and yourself and your own sacredness.
It then brings it into the wider community. So that's
(13:30):
where we was very much focused. But where we was parking. Now,
this is something we needed to really address because you know,
a lot of churches and places we go to our
public access, we do not trespass. We are very mindful
if we're having to walk along a public path that's
by farmers field. There's something we're very dedicated to is
(13:53):
abiding by the laws of our countryside. Shall we say
it's very much It sounds like we like trumpetling all
around the countryside, but we do follow specific rambling roots
that are allowed and being respectful about that. So I
would urge everybody to be mindful of that if they're
(14:13):
out and about doing psychic questing, because it can't get
a little bit crazy at times, guys. So it then
pulled it right. So we went to the World, but
we were we needed to get back there because our
way had got blocked because where we were parking, we've
been asked not to, so we had to find a
(14:33):
different entrance. Now we thought we had. We thought we had,
and we cased it out. It looked promising, but when
we actually attempted it, our way was barred by three
barking dogs.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That was because you and Daryl went out and sort
of susice route out a couple of nights before, and
then you told me and Marlowe and so on the Sunday,
I think when we usually meet up on a Sunday
at my lanus and then we go off to do
our whatever we feel we need to do for that week.
And we went off and you and Darrell directed me
(15:13):
through the place to park and I was quite happy,
you know. It was sort of down the end of
a track, lots of sort of little houses around. I
was quite happy to leave the par there and to
go on the walk to the well. But as we
were preparing, yeah, these these dogs came down the driveway
(15:36):
and there's no date on the drive and they came
out and yet barked a lot at And if there
were little of dogs they would have been all right.
But one of them was an Alsatian, which I think
most people are usually a bit weckery about.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I think for me, the three types of dogs were
what was key because there was an Alsatian, there was
a dashing and there was a cockapa, right, which.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
At least all but.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Those three dogs are really relevant in my life, you
know what I mean. My best friend's got the Dutch,
and I had an Alsatian colleague, and my parents have
got the cockap. This is screaming at me, do not
go this way? Right, I am backing away, like it's
going on. My Lena, you're quite bright, You're quite fearless
(16:31):
in regards, like you're just like, oh, yes, shut up,
you know, and carrying on going. Where were you in
that moment, because keating our way was being blocked from
going that way.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, to we start with, I was trying very hard
to not freeze inside. I am garified off dogs, especially Alsatians,
but I do have a bit of a history with
a dog attack and it happens to be Alsatians. And
(17:06):
it wasn't a very nice accident, incident, whatever you want
to call. It was quite tragic. So he had scared
me for life. I love animals. You know you're Merlyn Moore,
how much I loved him. Somebody else's dog, I am okay.
But a dog that I don't know, oh, because they're
(17:28):
very unpredictable. I don't day and I don't send their language.
But within that I'm aware of my wolding spirits, and
they just told me that is not the way, getting
a car and go. But then I go, Richard, don't
touch the dog. Don't offer your hunts because you will
(17:49):
think it's dinner. We don't want that. Come on, have
you up calling? Go and get Darbro. Please, you need
to get that carr and go. We need to go,
go now. And that all I gave repeated. So, yeah,
it was an evening that I was, if I cannot remember,
be wonderful. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What we did find though, where we talked. As we
stepped out the car, there were these.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Little red rorolls is plastic roses.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Now, what we think they are a little rose buds
that get tied into horses manes when they're dressed up
for their chosen That's what we think they are. But
we found six of those. Yes, Numerology six is the
vibration of love.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And so because our way to the well had been blocked,
we had to sort of like we just wanted to
get out of there, so we reconvened, and we chose
to reconvene at Saint Mary's shows that we're all super rattled.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
We're thinking we're never going to get back to the well.
So there's a level of panic there as well, because
we love the well, right, and we all end up
in this graveyard again the church isn't open, and again
it's a beautiful place, and we're sort of like app checking,
you know, like we're on Google Maps and like trying
(19:13):
to find a different route, and things are getting a
little bit for so, like you know, people are walking
away and taking five minutes because everything's trying to be
worked to again, well focused, how do we get back
to the well?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Now?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
We need resolve it on that night, But I don't
want to focus on that bit. I want to focus
on where we were at when we were the second
time at that well because one layer you did you
use your I don't really get the apps, so I'm
going to have a.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Wonder to deal with it. You went for a little
walk around the graveyard. Where was you at in that moment?
This is a second visit.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But at the second visit, well, we start with as
we got back to the church after not being able
to get to the well. If you remember, there was
like a little card on the floor with a red rose.
That's right, I was so and then they kind of
called me back to the pine tree, but instead of
(20:13):
pine cones, what I found was just the end beat
of the pine cones, but they looked like a little rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, yeah, what happens to the ones we had found in
the first one. Obviously we brought them in over the
winter that expanded and they kind of exploded, right, It
was crazy. It was amazing, just the sudden just going back.
(20:41):
But then I leave like like a rosette off from
the very top and they looked like roses. And that's
what my lane I had found underneath the tree on
the second visit.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, after collecting the roses from the ground. Very excited,
veryful for that, not really understanding what the meaning for
that was, but we get to that later. So they
pulled me back right at the back of the church
(21:12):
and they made me keep looking up at the glass window.
They kept saying on the right hand side, and I
kept looking, but I think it's just a wall. The
sawceer stone is not gonna be there. What am I
looking that I'm not seeing? And they go, you're not
(21:32):
seeing because you're gonna get indoors. It's from inside, but
it's on the right hand side, on the bottom of
the wall. Not having the focused idea of what we
would encounter at our later visits on that day. So yes,
but there was a very strong pulling behind the church
(21:53):
and slightly to the left when the graveyard started, and
obviously a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Eel and you found a geo cash.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
There was there was a little geo cash, and none
of us had a pain with us at the day.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It was we did this at the well because there's
one at the well as well. Focused by the way,
spoiler and take with you while you are actually psychic questioning,
because these little things up and it's the weirdest thing
when you find them is because you're not doing it
through that act.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You're just finding, you know, find.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Corners and cracks, isn't it. It's because I remember finding
something on the floor and then I go there or
found something, can you come and check it? And then
he tells me, oh, we found one of them in
the well is the geo cash. And I think geocash
things like something that you write down how much spain,
how much you're coming in, and all of that's true.
(22:58):
Now it's just this beautiful little people zine. So let's
adds know you've been there, you're of the right track.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think with the we shouldn't be a bit quiet
about the g O cash because there might be listeners
who do this. And now we're just giving two locations away.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Anyway, we said where they are, but we did not
say to the precisely that information.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah yeah, okay, well and we'll keep that. But yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The second time at the church, for me, I sort
of like arrived. I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I saw just worked like around the back.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I I think I was hiding from you, Kerry, you know,
because I think you're a bit fraught, so and you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What, I like so I went around the back.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But that's when Marlena came up, and we were sort
of like chat and the geocas came up because I
was quite interested.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And that church has a couple of holes in the
wall that.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Actually go from the outside of just small square holes
that go from the outside to the inside of the church.
And I found those quite interesting. And they're both on
the opposite sides of the of l like the altar.
You look in and you can see the altar, and
I found those sort of quite interesting. And I'm not
too sure quite what they'refore, but you know, there there,
(24:30):
and they obviously serve a purpose because I thought I
might have discovered one of those places. Oh I forgot
the name where you were and where the people were
walled up the Hermits, Oh yeah, the Anonites.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Thought I found an Anonite set.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's not mh.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah. Again, that was.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Sort of just grounding and sort of I didn't really
sort of get a lot from the second sort of visit,
you know, because we were sort of I felt sort
of pulled in, you know, the well, the church, you know,
I felt a bit in between them. But then we
did sort of work out, we decided we were going
(25:17):
to head back to the well, but we sort of
parked in a sort of it wasn't the directions you
wanted to go in, but we thought, well, we want
we wanted to head there anyway, so we knew there
was a place we could part without a problem. And yeah,
so we went back to the well after that. But
(25:40):
the church on the second visit, Yeah, that was a
bit sort of a bit ad hop, I felt. And
because we weren't expecting to go there, I didn't have
time to prepare to go there. So yeah, it's and
it was neither here nor there for me.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
No, it was a bit hit and miss.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I think what it did do is it highlighted
the significance. It was almost like we've been there twice,
but we don't really know much about it. And it
sort of as we were sort of doing a bit
of work around the well, you know, researching the world,
we'd come across Andy Collins's work, The Sacred Well.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now Darryl had.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Tracked her down this book for us, he's gone away.
He managed to get a copy. Our good friend Andy
Muzud also has supplied us with a copy of this
book so we could have a look at it and
we read it, and my god, the information that came
out showed the exact relevancy of Saint Mary's. It really
started to bring that to the fore because of the
Reverend J. E. Basil Corbyn welcome to the room kind
(26:48):
of fire, because a lot of the folkl or and
mythology that surrounds the well it's actually come from that
particular area. But one thing really started to scream out
to us we needed to do a bit more work
and have a look at the church in a little
bit more detail, which is where we said our trusty
Richard off and is it Richard, do some work, do
(27:11):
your research on it, because we don't just like take
somebody else's work. We kind of like following our own
threads as well. So all of this comes up and
Richard goes away and does his little research, don't you
sweet and what do you find out?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, I think I've got in contact with you when
I produced it, and with Bloody Ill.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I think the thing was that we were having a
lot of it all kind of what happens is they
throw a lot of stuff at you and then all
of a sudden it starts a collidoscope into place. And
it all comes clear on the journey towards this moment,
we were reading signs about the Titanic. It has a
(27:52):
sign of a book that called a retention in the
local walk again a local, but I was like, the
Titanic's important, I don't know why. And we kind of
went off on a side thread of when did it sink?
And you know, the usual bump refreshing your memory about
the Titanic. We talked about World War Two and a
(28:16):
pilot and the thread of the Australian cores and we
had researched endlessly trying to find threads to the Australian
core in this period of time, and we couldn't find
any thread whatsoever in Essex. Quite frankly could be Richard.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, not really no.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But it was sort of like because when you think
of military, I mean, you tend to go towards the army,
you know, but during World War Two, the Australian and
the Army were not sort of heavily present in Britain.
But there's another branch of the military which there was
a lot of Australians present war, and that is the
(29:00):
ris exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So these are extra threads we had not picked up
on them anywhere else we were going, and things went
unfolding in that way. Obviously we wanted to research the
land of Running Well, so we've got Poplace Farm and
Flemings Farm where we knew that at some point the
Souilliard family was involved in the church, so I kind
of knew the periphery, and then obviously inside the church
(29:27):
we knew now from Andy Collins's book there was the
prioresses too. So Richard is researching, he comes up with
all of these threads and he pulls them all together
in his research connected to Saint Mary's. Yeah, yeah, and
it kind of was one of those colleidoscope moments where
(29:47):
psychic comeets reality kind of vibe and it all kind
of does like clicked in because the other.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It was at that point, you know, I thought we've
got to get access into that church. Yeah and yeah, yeah,
sort of it was sort of quite I've often heard
of you girls talk about downloads when you get sort
of a lot of sort of like information, and I supposed,
for me, to be honest, that was and thinking back
(30:18):
on it whilst doing the research and everything, it seemed
a bit more because I'm used to doing it and
historical research, and it can be a bit dry, you know.
It is a bit of a sort of like a
speciality sort of nerdy thing, you know, and you have
to be into it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
But doing the.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Research on that and actually knowing that it was somehow
something I was involved in sort of later on, you know,
but doing historical research and looking back, yeah, I was
surprised how all the threads came in really quickly because
that piece of research. Once I was onto the main
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sort of aspects of it, it just all come together.
And I'd done that paper and we've been about, you know,
sort of two hours, which is incredibly quick for me.
I mean when I write articles and stuff. My articles,
you know, they take a week and they I just
looked like a thousand words articles and this came out
(31:23):
in about two hours, I thought, bloody hell. So it
came out more or less perfectly as well, and it
came really key that we.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Need to visit the church and go inside the church
and really boots on the ground, tonails in the ground.
But again there was a huge gap before we did it.
In fact, the last time we did a podcast, we
hadn't been to the church. We did the podcast, and
(31:53):
I actually said on the podcast, we really need to
get that pinned down, and we did it just before
Dary hollybops.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So there's quite a long gap between the second visit
and the first visit, but so much else unfolded in
that time, the article and the research and colidoscoped in
but kind of we've kind of like dabbled a little
bit and not really got anywhere further with the research,
(32:26):
and we kind of just shelved it to the point
that Richard even lost the document and I had to find.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It and send it to him again.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It was like Colides go up to this document and
then we didn't do anything with it. But it didn't
it wasn't the right time. And this is where the
divine timing comes in.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We need to go to the church. The children, it's
not right.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
This was like a.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Demand to go to church. So we it aligned. We
were all together on a Sunday and order a church
service at Saint Mary's in Runwell. And how wonderful was that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I know, it was so magical.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Walking into that church. You know, it was so different
from what I sort of like thought it was going
to be. Because thinking about it, I don't think there's
a lot of photographs online of the interior because I couldn't.
You know, I don't think I found much about that.
You know, probably a photo of the prioresses too, but
that's about it. But I've walked into the church, and
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I've been in a lot of churches in my time
with my historical interests and stuff, but that was different.
I mean, atmospherically, I wouldn't say so, but it was.
It was architecturally, it was, you know, a church, but
it had elements in it, paintings on the wall which
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you don't see in other churches and stuff. So you know,
someone who's there who we now believe is the vicar
when we know it's the vicar who was there in
the early nineteen hundreds, who'd done a lot of work there,
and he was obviously trying to, I feel, trying to
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express something because it was him that done all the
paintings on the pillars and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So he does sound a bit of a reader day because.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm sure the Church of England wouldn't have been happy
with him doing that back in the day, but it
certainly survived and they have and the church vicar or
the congregation now have kept it very very well.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
They have so from mylner's perspective, we're now going to
the church for a service. And so how did the
church feel to you as you entered?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Definitely a different energy in print. Now. I was overwhelmed
for the beauty of the carvings or on that work
on the woods at the altar as you stepped into
the altar, but also the colors was beautiful. But the
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experience I have had in that place, it's definitely one
that I have not experienced before. So now to then
find out where the private stone was, to me, it
was a validation that and I reminded that sometimes I
do allow doubt to creep in because I listened too
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much to others around me instead of really just listening
to my guts. So it was a confirmation it was
ready was they said was going to be. But I
don't feel we have not spent enough time that yet.
I do feel we need to go back more. We
need to spend more time, give a little bit more devotion.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
One very interesting thing, because we said we're gonna go,
we needed to go, but the gap that it took
for us to get there, wasn't it. But if you
recall the inner work and the understanding that all of
us have to find when it comes to the real
deep sacredness that comes from the Virgin. Maybe, and we
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explored a little bit more about the Virgin maybe, haven't
we that? Without that church, I don't really think we
would have gone down that road to an extent.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That's all I said to you two girls, and I
think you sort of sensed it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Marline's sort of been Catholic, and yourself, I got a
very heavy sort of polic vibe in there. There certainly
seemed to be some more sort of dedication to the
Virgin Mary, which is a very patholic, sort of big
you know the Church of England. Churches are usually sort
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of they don't sort of and entertain that much. Now,
there was a couple of statues of the Virgin Mary
there and there, and there appeared to be an altar
to her at the side. Wasn't there with the big
statue where a few people went and prayed and lit
a candle.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
But when we came away and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I spoke to Kerry, and Kerry came up to me
and she goes, you know, there was some very spiritually
attuned fruitioners in that church.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's but I think that when you're in that space,
it's a holding space, isn't it. Regardless of what theology
you're following. You know, it creates a space where you
hand open to your connection with whatever, however you've framed
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that connection. So let's bring it back to the church
an hour experience rather than focusing on other people. We
sat through a service, and a beautiful service. It's a
lovely community feel. Everyone was very friendly. We went, we
had communion. It was a nice devotional and they did
(38:27):
a repeat thing, didn't they. They did in all the
songs and everything, which I didn't really know the song,
so I couldn't really take part. There was beautiful singing
from the parishioners, but they did the repeat thing and
the harmonies. That's what brought into me, the harmony where
the vicar sang and then the congregation repeated it, and
(38:51):
it felt very monastic, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think they're more so because the responses is a
part of the sort of like service in sea of
the sort of services church services. But there, that's the
first time I've ever heard of via sing and the
congregations sing back. You know, I found that quite sort
(39:17):
of wow.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
But you just its vibration that that made you feel
within it. Sorry, rich I don't mean to cut you off.
Just it's the spiritual aspects on this one. I'm trying
to get across here. So when they were doing that
response is I felt that vibrational feels and that came
from my solo through into my heart test cavity and
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it really sort of like encouraged that communication, which is
strange because cosmologically, in the last few weeks we've been
sitting in communication being key and it's weird how it
kind of like started for us in regards to Saint
Mary's experience that we last went to, and that's sort
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of literally bringing that right into the present moment. But
in that moment where they're.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Doing responses, well, for me, it took me back to
my early childhood memories of being in a church. Now,
as you guys know, we mentioned before my Roman Catholic background,
So the church that I used to go to, we
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have that type of service that the priest sings and
everybody else's answer back singing, and to me always starts
right on my sacral and it comes right up through
me and it transports me to such a heavenly place.
(40:55):
And being in that church, it took me back to
that route that I deeply miss. And again why did
I miss? Because of the singing and the vibration that
triggers within you, and that vibration as it goes and
it goes out in the ether, it's so beautiful, so sacred,
and that is what raises everyone's vibration. And where now
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links where the planet be changes and with no communication.
It's been such a key for quite a while, hasn't it.
And how we communicate often it's not from a higher frequency,
it's actually very low. And I felt that especially the
four of us coming together on this spiritual journey to
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learn and explore and expand four of us to be
in that sacred place, in that service, working that frequency,
that vibration within us, and for you to be so
aware of that experience what from is the most natural thing.
It was such a gift. But one thing I did
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observe within my churches, we would do the Our Father's
prayer and would always follow by the hail maybe And
one thing I left the church very deep in thoughts
about it. A beautiful church dedicated to the Virgin maybe
(42:29):
and not once they done her prayers.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Wow, that's something to be explored later. I felt for
me when I was sat there through the service. We
were sat by one of the posts, and on that
post there was a new real that was done by
the Reverend bas Copin, and it was of Saint Peter's
and then of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
And also there was a.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Stained glass window high above on the far right hand side,
and it looked like a jigsaw puzzle, lots of different
bits of stained glass put in there. It doesn't look
like a picture at all. It puzzled. In fact, it
puzzled me. And the red and white sorry, the red
and blackstones outside the priorities too, and also by the
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Virgin Mary. I was seeing stain glass window, but the
only part of it that my brain was able to
sort of like focus on in this stain glass winners.
I couldn't tell you what the stained glass was. All
I could tell you was I know that the William
became really important there was it was almost like William,
it was really really important. So I'm like, right, okay.
(43:40):
So I enjoyed the service and devoted, I have my prayers,
we do the thing, we have a good look around,
we go out into the churchyard. We're really enjoying the experience.
We feel back to being centered. And it was a
lovely time, wasn't it. It was a really lovely experience.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, it was worth the
way to put it that way, And I certainly feel
now sort of like reflecting.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
On it, and it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Perhaps it was their things started fall in place for
me getting more sort of like a cur and even
though my sort of major event happened a little bit later,
but I feel that that aspect of the journey for
me was important. Don't ask me to go into it
(44:33):
too deeply. I'm not pretty sure why. But if I
was to put a finger on it saying where did
it all start? I would be very very confident to
place it there.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Interesting life on air and exclusive to p a UK Radio.
His awakenings started at the Saint Mary's Church in One World.
So anyway, we came off the back of that particular experience.
Now we take loads of photographs, you know that, we
(45:11):
have a good mutu around. We write in the geocash,
you know, like all of those things have like settled
in and we're now looking for those four key points
that we look at. So we photograph the Titanic grave,
the World War two guy that we'd found, the craft
guy we the privacies to him, obviously, and remnants of
(45:34):
what we know about the silly Ard family within the church,
and obviously loads of other photocasts with beautiful stained glass windows,
one in specific being the arch Angel Gabriel. Now again
bringing it into the present, how focused I was on
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that particular stained glass window. And since then, what's happened
in the last few weeks is we've seen more and
more signs about the Archangel Gabriel, including our very own
literally last night, we were at a different church, different story,
so we'll just pute to the thing. But we find
a trumpet. We find literally a trumpet, and it's like
(46:18):
Archangel Gabriel's heralding message has kind of hit the earth,
and it was like, that's the kind of psychic impressions
that come through. So in the last three weeks, Archangel
Gabriel has been in everybody. So if he's been heralding
everything that needs to happen or not happened, so just
be aware of that because all the eas is herald
(46:38):
and we just it's like a town crier. So I'm
really paying attention to this. So off the back of
this we puddle off and we go right. I suppose
it's about time we actually did a bit of deeperent
research and what we've actually seen. And this is where
we started kind of like come a way more from
(46:58):
psychic and we're looking for validations And I'm a lot
more flexible and fluid because I don't I just allow
a research sef is how I do it. I follow
a thread, I get a thought, and I google it
and see what happens. Richard's a lot more structured in
his form of research. And in between all of this
(47:20):
we get regular downloads from How does that work for you?
Because after the event Marlanea, you continue to get downloads,
don't you, from the event of the church?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So how does that work? Because we're working with what
we experienced in the moment and what came to the
fore for us. And then alongside of this, you're kind
of like adding meat to bone or trying to add
meat to bones, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Yeah? Yeah, something like that, isn't it? And The thing is,
once they get me to those sacred places and I
am open, So what they do it's kind of like
a little responge. They soaked me out with all the
information that is needed and I'm still open and the
orpens it is until they said now it's time to
(48:12):
a step back. So for me, it's quite normal.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
How we three kind of work in the aftermath. You
kind of call it you knowing what you experienced, how
you felt, you're following threads. So we get to the
point of the four points that Richard kaleidoscoped into with
this article, we then start going, okay, so we focused
(48:40):
on those while we were kind of there, But what
else did we get now?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
Two?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And I'm gonna only really talk about too, because the
prioress is too, and the Soulliard family, the Flemings, and
the popular Poplars. It's kind of like a massive thread
that has yet to full fit or its potential. That's
just more there, and we haven't quite separated the wheat from.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
The chaff on that No, we're in between the.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
But the two most validating pieces of information that came
forward came from the most unexpected angles. I would have said,
because I first started looking at I did look into
the Prioress's tomb in regards to why was it empty
when they opened it in the nineteen hundreds, Right, it
was opened, there's no prioress in there, But empty tombs
(49:35):
in churches is actually a common thing because it's representative
of the empty tomb when they went to go and
see if there was Jesus there. There's an empty tomb, right,
So it's symbolic of that. So that's not surprising. But
I kind of like kind of ran out of thread
on that one, and I find that the thread of
the who the Prioress is supposed to be is sketchy
(49:59):
and we can't haven't quite got the right connection on it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, when I've looked into her, I mean you're just
sort of, you know, because all we've really got the Internet,
and there's only what's available there, and it's and you
just kept up and directed back to the same resource.
I mean, there's there's very there's only one resource out
there really that's somebody's sat down and written, and so
(50:30):
you just it just keeps going back to there, and
you can't seem to sort of get much beyond that.
You know, and this is like basically a seventeenth century account.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
It is, late seventeenth century account, and that's.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
All we've got, you know, So that's all we've got
to work with.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I mean, you know, it's a difficult one. And family
and this is sort of like the Sillier family and
the prioress are so intertwined, and let's be fair, they
had lots of children back in the day, they had
lots of renaming with the same name, and it gets
a little confusing. So we're leaving those two particular throws
(51:15):
to the side for the next you know, for the
rest of this particular show. We did look into the
World War two pilot, as you do. So I have
a little look around and I just came across like
a little website with information on it and the guy's name.
(51:37):
This is the thing, right, This is the really weird thing.
The guy who we know about, right is what was
his name?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Oh? Which it's a William, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
It wasn't No, it wasn't. The one in Romwel Church
Saint Mary's is Sergeant E. A. Robinson, Arthur Robinson, who
was a Royal Air Force volunteer Reserve and he flew
at Vickers Wellington eighty six to eight and it actually
collided with an Ex nineteen ninety four, the same unit.
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It struck a hangar and burst into flames. Now we're
right at the bottom of that information because I'm thinking,
oh God bless him, you know, I kind of the
wonder if he had crew with him. And there was
a one name right at the bottom, and it was
Sergeant William Tate Cuthbertson of the Royal Australian Air Force.
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And that blew me away because first of all, we've
got a William. Secondly we've got the Australian Air Force
in we had picked up months and months ago. Yeah,
which was just crazy to me. And it was came
from the most unexpected place of being, coming through Saint
Mary's in Rumwell. It just blew my mind a little bit.
(53:02):
And the panic survivor as well. In the churchyard he's
under Edwis Ryerson. So I just have a look into
that and his name is William Edwards Ryerson and I
was just like, here's another William, right, So at this
point I did start googling Williams of the sill Yard
(53:23):
family and This is where I got a little confused,
so we're leaving that to one side.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
But he was born in.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Eighteen seventy eight. He served in the British Army in
the Bober War, was awarded the Queen's Medal with two clasps.
He was actually a second class steward on the ill
fated Titanic, right, but he was actually assigned a lifeboat,
and it was his lifeboat was the number nine. And
nine is really key when you read Andrew Collins's account
(53:52):
about the sacred of Well nine, it's like, and that's
the only reason he got off the Titanic, because that
was like his assigned boat. There were because if you
think about it, only thirteen was actually launched from the Titanic.
He lived.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Quite a full life, really, you know.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
He came over, did it?
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Did?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (54:23):
What was really weird for him when he's on the
Titanic was there were distant members of his own family
on that on the boat as well, that's right, and
he didn't even know that they were on the boat. Now,
after this, he served in the First World War. They
think he served in the Song and basically he ended
as a warrant Officer class with the Royal Artillery Regiment,
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and he ended up having a quieter end to his
life living in Runwell. But how fascinating again A William
pops up and all of these things, and it just
blew my mind. On this particular night, it just blew
my mind because that colide scope collided yet again. But
we've only half clicked it as it well, we're not
(55:08):
quite clicked in yet. But is it fascinating her spirit work?
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Well? I know, well, I love how spirit work. Obviously,
my faith and trust in them have always been dead,
and it just gets stronger and stronger for me. The
difficulty eats. I don't expect people to be open as
I am, but when people are not so open and resisting,
(55:36):
and it makes harder for them to actually share the magic.
So but now that you guys are getting more and
more open and starting to get more and more how
I rework in our little crazy way, and your guys
are putting things together, It's getting really exciting and I
just cannot wait for more and more of these to come.
(55:58):
So I carry on an opening guys.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
What I will say is we always enter churches and
graveyards with the utmost respect for the theology for the community,
for the estuds that are in the ground there, and
I urge everybody to do the same whenever they're out
and about these churches. And I'm hoping you should. It
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should be a no brainer, right, guys, should be brain.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
Yet people people still got to learn respect because the
respect concept is very misunderstood. But one thing I would
definitely say, everything we say and do no in the
intention that we are doing, it will come back to us.
So if you think you're going to have a party
(56:48):
and the graveyards, trust me, you will not be alone.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
With you guys, I think, uh, you know. And we've
met people as well.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I mean not a lot of people, but the people
we've interacted with, you know, visiting the churches, going to
the services, they've always been very eyeing, very open, you know.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
We've always been felt welcome, and you can't felt that
well no, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Thought community spirit was dead, you know, like living the
life before you know, the spiritual journey. I thought community
spirit was dead and bury it kind of like forget it.
You're fighting for your own survival kind of on your
own kind of vibe. And this is far from the truth,
and it's only a scratch beneath the surface. Now we're
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not here, you know, like to advocate Bible, you know,
studies and stuff like that. But the theology is fascinating
and helps you reflect within yourself for understanding and awakening
and the messages that are coming through from that theology,
which is very comfortable for me because I'm seeing E
(58:00):
and my Lane is quite comfortable because she's Catholic, so
it's very similar, and Richard is very c of E,
and as is our Darryl, you know, so within that,
they're allowing us to explore our spirituality within a theology
framework that we're really comfortable with, and those messages of
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what they're telling us when we're in that space is
incredibly I just honestly, I get mind blown on a
regular basis of how all the threads come together in
one space. It's phenomenal. Anyway, That's where we're up to
with Saint Mary's in run Well, but the story doesn't
just end there. You are going to have to join
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us for episode three to find out the next threads
and adventures that we've been psychically led on and what
transpired when we into the environment. Thank you so much
for listening guys. Last words for you, Malina.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
Well, thank you for listening to us, thank you for
your time. If you're adding a light, carve you on
in the light. If you are not, pray, pray hard.
Prayers will take you to beautiful places. And don't think
you're being silly, because you're not being silly. We need
more than that. Have a wonderful time until we meet again.
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God bless you all.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
And for myself, perseverance does count. It does count in
this sort of environment. You know, when you start off,
you know, don't well for me, you know, I don't
expect to get it all at once, But if you
persevere it, things will fall into place. And I will
leave that with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
And all I'm gonna say is I have the episode.
We'll see you very soon.
Speaker 3 (59:55):
M
Hello, and welcome to Life's Quest Episode two. Good evening, guys,
how are you? Yeah? It's been an interesting few weeks,
I mean, God, trying to keep up with the torid,
the recording and how things unfold and still stay in
the present moment is so challenging, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Tell me about?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I've only just got the hang of it after
all these weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know. Right tonight's episode, we're going to follow
a thread that kind of started right at the beginning,
and we've had the local walk. We've had this insight
about a well, and on our attempts at trying to
find a sacred well in our local area or wherever,
we found that there was a boxing day walk from
(01:05):
a chat to a sacred well in a village that
wasn't that far away from where all of us lived,
in a place called run Well. So obviously our interest
was drawn to the church Saint Mary's there and the
well itself. But we at this time, when we first
came across this, we were incredibly well focused, won't we
(01:29):
We were?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, I would say so. We've done a bit of
preliminary but I still feel myself this was our first
sort of outing from you know, things new girls had
sort of like picked up pond because I was quite
new to this, so I was just going along with
you girls. But I don't feel it was our sort
of first major sort of outing somewhere.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It really was, wasn't it. It was like, we've got
to go and have a ok at this well. Now,
I live in this area, and I knew obviously about
Runwell as a place because of the psychiatric hospital that
was there, and from the paranormal side, we'd sort of
like come across it, but I've never actually visited Runwell. Mylnea,
(02:17):
I take it you didn't even have a clue that
there was a place called Runwell or did you know
that well.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Funny enough, I used to work in Runwell, not very
far of the Sacred Well, if you like. And so yeah,
at the first time that Richard drove in that particular
road that I recognize this place. I recognize this place.
(02:47):
And as we got to that point where we turn right,
and then it clicked, I think the road does not
end in there after all, It actually leads to such
a beautiful sacred place. And I was just gob smarked
because after working in there, for a good four years.
After three years not going into that road at all,
(03:08):
all of a sudden, I'm back there, and how amazing
it has been.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
What about you? Did you know about Running Well?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I had a fague idea through sort of doing sort
of reading in the past. You know, that has come
up in some in some texts which I'm quite interested
in with authors I follow, But I never thought I
would ever actually go to the place. And I knew
I knew run Well was sort of somewhere near Whitford,
but that was about it, really, And it wasn't until
(03:46):
I've done a bit more digging when this sort of
came up on the table that I sort of we
found out that allegedly still existed and found a few
photos and a couple of articles. It's not that well
published online, so we just really took it from there. Unfortunately, yes,
(04:07):
we managed to get to it first hit We didn't
have to wander about for too long.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But we went to the church first, didn't we And
it wasn't open so we couldn't go in. So it
was just like having a meand around the church, like
the graveyard area, and that was really like sort of
like our first port of call before we actually went
to the well, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
From a psychic perspective, when we enter that space and
we go into it, we can notice bits and bobs,
should we say, they have a relevancy to what journey
we're on now. At this particular occasion, conquers were really key.
Now this is we're looking at late November so and
(04:54):
we're looking right outside a bus stop and these are great, big,
juicy conquers and they called it right. So we collected
a load of conquers. And then we found a sycamore,
no sorry, a cedar, get that right, because between a
cedar tree and there was a branch of the tree
(05:14):
has some beautiful pine cones on the really tight pine cones,
so it'd naturally fallen off the tree. We didn't pull
it off the tree, and we took that with us
as well. Richard is obviously you know, and Daryl was
with us at the time. He's we don't quite know
what's going on with He's off on a different planet
(05:36):
of his own at the minute. I think, you know,
these bits and bobs which for us as psychic, so
our having symbolic meanings for you in the moment you
must think, oh my god, what are they doing well?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And I'll be perfectly awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I was thinking about this part and today I thought,
or we're going to the location, and I've been listening
to the girls and they've been telling me all this
sort of stuff, because I haven't really becoming tuned to this,
and a little bit later on so I was still
very sort of fresh breed and behind the years. So
I thought, brilliant, first location, brilliant, We'll get there. We're
(06:15):
gonna have signs and wonders, We'll get the Golden Statue
quest done.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think the hardest concept for you in this particular
journey is the divine timing of things, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes? Yes, And it is something that I am getting
a bit sort of more gives to, is you know.
I mean, I think, you know, we had a very
recent trip out where divine timing obviously did play a part,
but that's the latter.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But going back to Saint Mary's, yes, you know, I
was new on the ground and in that sort of thing,
and new girls are off and I didn't quite know
what I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Was supposed to be looking for because I've been to
loads of churches before, and I sort of look at
them more from a historic perspective. I'm going look at
that Norman art, so look at this and you get
also sort of you know, and I found something.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I found something. I'm brilliant and you.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Hold up a pine cot.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's flip it then, because at that moment you've got
my Laner in the moment going, I've got the pine
guys to vibe. How is it for you when you
went at these places?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, for me, something very unusual and no one can comprehend.
But it's a feeling that I have where I am
step back in time, step back in in history, and
yet there is no words where I can translate to
what I'm experiencing within the pine cone. To me, obviously
(08:02):
there seeds seeds of creation, the pineal glens and all
of that. So then I am a lover of pine
cons all sorts of size and different shapes, and they
tell a beautiful star. But we are we're just going
to listen.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think the thing with my Liner is I had
to get used to her her.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Collector mania, you know, stones, feathers and ponkers and pine cones,
which is you know at first, but I you know,
I can't see the point and yeah, but but at first.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought, well, well this is going to be fun,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And then from that point we kind of headed off
to the well. And after that, for quite a while
we became quite well focused. We did a few trips
and various high days and holidays of the wicker world
does it wear? Or the moon cycles. But ultimately, in
regards to Saint Mary's, that kind of was it. We
kind of like, it was like at the church. If
(09:06):
we're at the well, now, wasn't it. We kind of
dismissed it, but it kind of became not the relevant point,
that's right, Yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
We were other churches, wouldn't we have founder slightly further
afield then within our doughter state. But the St. Maybe's
Church was like almost it wasn't calling us.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Back, not at that point, not for a while. And
I think with the well, now we're onto that. Yes,
we've been there a few times, but the first time everything,
and the second time was quite an Eventually we we
found the sacred world and that sounds good in itself.
(09:54):
Were all punking around and I was falling from one
end to the other because I have to tell the listeners.
I'm not very steady on my feet at the best
of times. And the well is a bit sort of
you know, sort of down an embankment, which I can
tend to get from top to bottom quite quickly if
I'm not too steady on the feet. So when I
(10:16):
go there now, I tend to observe and from above
a new more intrepid lot go down and do the
searching and seeking. But it is a I feel it
is a central point to us. It is important. But
whatever it is we are questing for, which we may
(10:40):
have some ideas about now, it's beyond that. But the
well is the central sort of point, and there's spokes
coming off it which we are heading in and we
will obviously find something following those sort of threads.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's like the center of the web we have to
It feels like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Like when you're actually at that well and that and
we was talking to a gentleman yesterday and it's actually
the figure of Saint Mary's in Rommell's Church, and I
was explaining how sacred that space feels in nature, you know,
like when I step into it, I become so centered
(11:28):
and so focused and so dedicated and so sacred. It
feels so sacred to me at that well, it's really
hard not to sort of like you have to kind
of fight the ego of protection over it, because that's
how it makes you feel. It's so sacred to you
that you don't want anybody else to sort of like
encroach on it. But it's not your it's a piece
(11:50):
of nature. So it's it's almost like a lesson in
getting out of your own ego stay of protection in
that place. And that's a very sacred honor space because.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That place, I do see it has a sort of
a profound effect on you carry and when we don't
sort of and sort of myself and Darryl, you know,
we keep well away from you when you're in that
sort of zone. We sort of hide in the background
while you're off. We dare interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
No, because for me, that's something I'm claiming. It's it's
I need my focus and concentration on that moment. I
don't need the distraction in the physical as it were,
because I'm not in the physical effectively. I'm now in
that space and it talks to you and it's almost
like pulling you out of one reality into like one dimension,
(12:45):
should I say, into another dimension? It disrupts that energy.
But when you're in or when I'm in that space,
the well space, I feel like I need to be
so focused and concentrated because my whole devotion is there
in that space of why I'm there, what I'm doing,
my faith, my trust is there. Do you know what
(13:08):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
For me?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's just how it feels for me. And in a way,
I now have an appreciation of churches because I can
see how that provides that space on a community basis.
It's not just about you and yourself and your own sacredness.
It then brings it into the wider community. So that's
(13:30):
where we was very much focused. But where we was parking. Now,
this is something we needed to really address because you know,
a lot of churches and places we go to our
public access, we do not trespass. We are very mindful
if we're having to walk along a public path that's
by farmers field. There's something we're very dedicated to is
(13:53):
abiding by the laws of our countryside. Shall we say
it's very much It sounds like we like trumpetling all
around the countryside, but we do follow specific rambling roots
that are allowed and being respectful about that. So I
would urge everybody to be mindful of that if they're
(14:13):
out and about doing psychic questing, because it can't get
a little bit crazy at times, guys. So it then
pulled it right. So we went to the World, but
we were we needed to get back there because our
way had got blocked because where we were parking, we've
been asked not to, so we had to find a
(14:33):
different entrance. Now we thought we had. We thought we had,
and we cased it out. It looked promising, but when
we actually attempted it, our way was barred by three
barking dogs.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
That was because you and Daryl went out and sort
of susice route out a couple of nights before, and
then you told me and Marlowe and so on the Sunday,
I think when we usually meet up on a Sunday
at my lanus and then we go off to do
our whatever we feel we need to do for that week.
And we went off and you and Darrell directed me
(15:13):
through the place to park and I was quite happy,
you know. It was sort of down the end of
a track, lots of sort of little houses around. I
was quite happy to leave the par there and to
go on the walk to the well. But as we
were preparing, yeah, these these dogs came down the driveway
(15:36):
and there's no date on the drive and they came
out and yet barked a lot at And if there
were little of dogs they would have been all right.
But one of them was an Alsatian, which I think
most people are usually a bit weckery about.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I think for me, the three types of dogs were
what was key because there was an Alsatian, there was
a dashing and there was a cockapa, right, which.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
At least all but.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Those three dogs are really relevant in my life, you
know what I mean. My best friend's got the Dutch,
and I had an Alsatian colleague, and my parents have
got the cockap. This is screaming at me, do not
go this way? Right, I am backing away, like it's
going on. My Lena, you're quite bright, You're quite fearless
(16:31):
in regards, like you're just like, oh, yes, shut up,
you know, and carrying on going. Where were you in
that moment, because keating our way was being blocked from
going that way.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, to we start with, I was trying very hard
to not freeze inside. I am garified off dogs, especially Alsatians,
but I do have a bit of a history with
a dog attack and it happens to be Alsatians. And
(17:06):
it wasn't a very nice accident, incident, whatever you want
to call. It was quite tragic. So he had scared
me for life. I love animals. You know you're Merlyn Moore,
how much I loved him. Somebody else's dog, I am okay.
But a dog that I don't know, oh, because they're
(17:28):
very unpredictable. I don't day and I don't send their language.
But within that I'm aware of my wolding spirits, and
they just told me that is not the way, getting
a car and go. But then I go, Richard, don't
touch the dog. Don't offer your hunts because you will
(17:49):
think it's dinner. We don't want that. Come on, have
you up calling? Go and get Darbro. Please, you need
to get that carr and go. We need to go,
go now. And that all I gave repeated. So, yeah,
it was an evening that I was, if I cannot remember,
be wonderful. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What we did find though, where we talked. As we
stepped out the car, there were these.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Little red rorolls is plastic roses.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Now, what we think they are a little rose buds
that get tied into horses manes when they're dressed up
for their chosen That's what we think they are. But
we found six of those. Yes, Numerology six is the
vibration of love.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
And so because our way to the well had been blocked,
we had to sort of like we just wanted to
get out of there, so we reconvened, and we chose
to reconvene at Saint Mary's shows that we're all super rattled.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
We're thinking we're never going to get back to the well.
So there's a level of panic there as well, because
we love the well, right, and we all end up
in this graveyard again the church isn't open, and again
it's a beautiful place, and we're sort of like app checking,
you know, like we're on Google Maps and like trying
(19:13):
to find a different route, and things are getting a
little bit for so, like you know, people are walking
away and taking five minutes because everything's trying to be
worked to again, well focused, how do we get back
to the well?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Now?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
We need resolve it on that night, But I don't
want to focus on that bit. I want to focus
on where we were at when we were the second
time at that well because one layer you did you
use your I don't really get the apps, so I'm
going to have a.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Wonder to deal with it. You went for a little
walk around the graveyard. Where was you at in that moment?
This is a second visit.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But at the second visit, well, we start with as
we got back to the church after not being able
to get to the well. If you remember, there was
like a little card on the floor with a red rose.
That's right, I was so and then they kind of
called me back to the pine tree, but instead of
(20:13):
pine cones, what I found was just the end beat
of the pine cones, but they looked like a little rosa.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, yeah, what happens to the ones we had found in
the first one. Obviously we brought them in over the
winter that expanded and they kind of exploded, right, It
was crazy. It was amazing, just the sudden just going back.
(20:41):
But then I leave like like a rosette off from
the very top and they looked like roses. And that's
what my lane I had found underneath the tree on
the second visit.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, after collecting the roses from the ground. Very excited,
veryful for that, not really understanding what the meaning for
that was, but we get to that later. So they
pulled me back right at the back of the church
(21:12):
and they made me keep looking up at the glass window.
They kept saying on the right hand side, and I
kept looking, but I think it's just a wall. The
sawceer stone is not gonna be there. What am I
looking that I'm not seeing? And they go, you're not
(21:32):
seeing because you're gonna get indoors. It's from inside, but
it's on the right hand side, on the bottom of
the wall. Not having the focused idea of what we
would encounter at our later visits on that day. So yes,
but there was a very strong pulling behind the church
(21:53):
and slightly to the left when the graveyard started, and
obviously a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Eel and you found a geo cash.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
There was there was a little geo cash, and none
of us had a pain with us at the day.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It was we did this at the well because there's
one at the well as well. Focused by the way,
spoiler and take with you while you are actually psychic questioning,
because these little things up and it's the weirdest thing
when you find them is because you're not doing it
through that act.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You're just finding, you know, find.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Corners and cracks, isn't it. It's because I remember finding
something on the floor and then I go there or
found something, can you come and check it? And then
he tells me, oh, we found one of them in
the well is the geo cash. And I think geocash
things like something that you write down how much spain,
how much you're coming in, and all of that's true.
(22:58):
Now it's just this beautiful little people zine. So let's
adds know you've been there, you're of the right track.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think with the we shouldn't be a bit quiet
about the g O cash because there might be listeners
who do this. And now we're just giving two locations away.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Anyway, we said where they are, but we did not
say to the precisely that information.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah yeah, okay, well and we'll keep that. But yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The second time at the church, for me, I sort
of like arrived. I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I saw just worked like around the back.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I I think I was hiding from you, Kerry, you know,
because I think you're a bit fraught, so and you know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What, I like so I went around the back.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
But that's when Marlena came up, and we were sort
of like chat and the geocas came up because I
was quite interested.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And that church has a couple of holes in the
wall that.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Actually go from the outside of just small square holes
that go from the outside to the inside of the church.
And I found those quite interesting. And they're both on
the opposite sides of the of l like the altar.
You look in and you can see the altar, and
I found those sort of quite interesting. And I'm not
too sure quite what they'refore, but you know, there there,
(24:30):
and they obviously serve a purpose because I thought I
might have discovered one of those places. Oh I forgot
the name where you were and where the people were
walled up the Hermits, Oh yeah, the Anonites.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Thought I found an Anonite set.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's not mh.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah. Again, that was.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Sort of just grounding and sort of I didn't really
sort of get a lot from the second sort of visit,
you know, because we were sort of I felt sort
of pulled in, you know, the well, the church, you know,
I felt a bit in between them. But then we
did sort of work out, we decided we were going
(25:17):
to head back to the well, but we sort of
parked in a sort of it wasn't the directions you
wanted to go in, but we thought, well, we want
we wanted to head there anyway, so we knew there
was a place we could part without a problem. And yeah,
so we went back to the well after that. But
(25:40):
the church on the second visit, Yeah, that was a
bit sort of a bit ad hop, I felt. And
because we weren't expecting to go there, I didn't have
time to prepare to go there. So yeah, it's and
it was neither here nor there for me.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
No, it was a bit hit and miss.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
But I think what it did do is it highlighted
the significance. It was almost like we've been there twice,
but we don't really know much about it. And it
sort of as we were sort of doing a bit
of work around the well, you know, researching the world,
we'd come across Andy Collins's work, The Sacred Well.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Now Darryl had.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Tracked her down this book for us, he's gone away.
He managed to get a copy. Our good friend Andy
Muzud also has supplied us with a copy of this
book so we could have a look at it and
we read it, and my god, the information that came
out showed the exact relevancy of Saint Mary's. It really
started to bring that to the fore because of the
Reverend J. E. Basil Corbyn welcome to the room kind
(26:48):
of fire, because a lot of the folkl or and
mythology that surrounds the well it's actually come from that
particular area. But one thing really started to scream out
to us we needed to do a bit more work
and have a look at the church in a little
bit more detail, which is where we said our trusty
Richard off and is it Richard, do some work, do
(27:11):
your research on it, because we don't just like take
somebody else's work. We kind of like following our own
threads as well. So all of this comes up and
Richard goes away and does his little research, don't you
sweet and what do you find out?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, I think I've got in contact with you when
I produced it, and with Bloody Ill.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I think the thing was that we were having a
lot of it all kind of what happens is they
throw a lot of stuff at you and then all
of a sudden it starts a collidoscope into place. And
it all comes clear on the journey towards this moment,
we were reading signs about the Titanic. It has a
(27:52):
sign of a book that called a retention in the
local walk again a local, but I was like, the
Titanic's important, I don't know why. And we kind of
went off on a side thread of when did it sink?
And you know, the usual bump refreshing your memory about
the Titanic. We talked about World War Two and a
(28:16):
pilot and the thread of the Australian cores and we
had researched endlessly trying to find threads to the Australian
core in this period of time, and we couldn't find
any thread whatsoever in Essex. Quite frankly could be Richard.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, not really no.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But it was sort of like because when you think
of military, I mean, you tend to go towards the army,
you know, but during World War Two, the Australian and
the Army were not sort of heavily present in Britain.
But there's another branch of the military which there was
a lot of Australians present war, and that is the
(29:00):
ris exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So these are extra threads we had not picked up
on them anywhere else we were going, and things went
unfolding in that way. Obviously we wanted to research the
land of Running Well, so we've got Poplace Farm and
Flemings Farm where we knew that at some point the
Souilliard family was involved in the church, so I kind
of knew the periphery, and then obviously inside the church
(29:27):
we knew now from Andy Collins's book there was the
prioresses too. So Richard is researching, he comes up with
all of these threads and he pulls them all together
in his research connected to Saint Mary's. Yeah, yeah, and
it kind of was one of those colleidoscope moments where
(29:47):
psychic comeets reality kind of vibe and it all kind
of does like clicked in because the other.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It was at that point, you know, I thought we've
got to get access into that church. Yeah and yeah, yeah,
sort of it was sort of quite I've often heard
of you girls talk about downloads when you get sort
of a lot of sort of like information, and I supposed,
for me, to be honest, that was and thinking back
(30:18):
on it whilst doing the research and everything, it seemed
a bit more because I'm used to doing it and
historical research, and it can be a bit dry, you know.
It is a bit of a sort of like a
speciality sort of nerdy thing, you know, and you have
to be into it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
But doing the.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Research on that and actually knowing that it was somehow
something I was involved in sort of later on, you know,
but doing historical research and looking back, yeah, I was
surprised how all the threads came in really quickly because
that piece of research. Once I was onto the main
(30:59):
sort of aspects of it, it just all come together.
And I'd done that paper and we've been about, you know,
sort of two hours, which is incredibly quick for me.
I mean when I write articles and stuff. My articles,
you know, they take a week and they I just
looked like a thousand words articles and this came out
(31:23):
in about two hours, I thought, bloody hell. So it
came out more or less perfectly as well, and it
came really key that we.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Need to visit the church and go inside the church
and really boots on the ground, tonails in the ground.
But again there was a huge gap before we did it.
In fact, the last time we did a podcast, we
hadn't been to the church. We did the podcast, and
(31:53):
I actually said on the podcast, we really need to
get that pinned down, and we did it just before
Dary hollybops.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes, that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So there's quite a long gap between the second visit
and the first visit, but so much else unfolded in
that time, the article and the research and colidoscoped in
but kind of we've kind of like dabbled a little
bit and not really got anywhere further with the research,
(32:26):
and we kind of just shelved it to the point
that Richard even lost the document and I had to find.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It and send it to him again.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It was like Colides go up to this document and
then we didn't do anything with it. But it didn't
it wasn't the right time. And this is where the
divine timing comes in.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We need to go to the church. The children, it's
not right.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
This was like a.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Demand to go to church. So we it aligned. We
were all together on a Sunday and order a church
service at Saint Mary's in Runwell. And how wonderful was that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I know, it was so magical.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Walking into that church. You know, it was so different
from what I sort of like thought it was going
to be. Because thinking about it, I don't think there's
a lot of photographs online of the interior because I couldn't.
You know, I don't think I found much about that.
You know, probably a photo of the prioresses too, but
that's about it. But I've walked into the church, and
(33:34):
I've been in a lot of churches in my time
with my historical interests and stuff, but that was different.
I mean, atmospherically, I wouldn't say so, but it was.
It was architecturally, it was, you know, a church, but
it had elements in it, paintings on the wall which
(33:55):
you don't see in other churches and stuff. So you know,
someone who's there who we now believe is the vicar
when we know it's the vicar who was there in
the early nineteen hundreds, who'd done a lot of work there,
and he was obviously trying to, I feel, trying to
(34:18):
express something because it was him that done all the
paintings on the pillars and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So he does sound a bit of a reader day because.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm sure the Church of England wouldn't have been happy
with him doing that back in the day, but it
certainly survived and they have and the church vicar or
the congregation now have kept it very very well.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
They have so from mylner's perspective, we're now going to
the church for a service. And so how did the
church feel to you as you entered?
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Definitely a different energy in print. Now. I was overwhelmed
for the beauty of the carvings or on that work
on the woods at the altar as you stepped into
the altar, but also the colors was beautiful. But the
(35:21):
experience I have had in that place, it's definitely one
that I have not experienced before. So now to then
find out where the private stone was, to me, it
was a validation that and I reminded that sometimes I
do allow doubt to creep in because I listened too
(35:45):
much to others around me instead of really just listening
to my guts. So it was a confirmation it was
ready was they said was going to be. But I
don't feel we have not spent enough time that yet.
I do feel we need to go back more. We
need to spend more time, give a little bit more devotion.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
One very interesting thing, because we said we're gonna go,
we needed to go, but the gap that it took
for us to get there, wasn't it. But if you
recall the inner work and the understanding that all of
us have to find when it comes to the real
deep sacredness that comes from the Virgin. Maybe, and we
(36:36):
explored a little bit more about the Virgin maybe, haven't
we that? Without that church, I don't really think we
would have gone down that road to an extent.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
That's all I said to you two girls, and I
think you sort of sensed it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Marline's sort of been Catholic, and yourself, I got a
very heavy sort of polic vibe in there. There certainly
seemed to be some more sort of dedication to the
Virgin Mary, which is a very patholic, sort of big
you know the Church of England. Churches are usually sort
(37:14):
of they don't sort of and entertain that much. Now,
there was a couple of statues of the Virgin Mary
there and there, and there appeared to be an altar
to her at the side. Wasn't there with the big
statue where a few people went and prayed and lit
a candle.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
But when we came away and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I spoke to Kerry, and Kerry came up to me
and she goes, you know, there was some very spiritually
attuned fruitioners in that church.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's but I think that when you're in that space,
it's a holding space, isn't it. Regardless of what theology
you're following. You know, it creates a space where you
hand open to your connection with whatever, however you've framed
(38:05):
that connection. So let's bring it back to the church
an hour experience rather than focusing on other people. We
sat through a service, and a beautiful service. It's a
lovely community feel. Everyone was very friendly. We went, we
had communion. It was a nice devotional and they did
(38:27):
a repeat thing, didn't they. They did in all the
songs and everything, which I didn't really know the song,
so I couldn't really take part. There was beautiful singing
from the parishioners, but they did the repeat thing and
the harmonies. That's what brought into me, the harmony where
the vicar sang and then the congregation repeated it, and
(38:51):
it felt very monastic, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think they're more so because the responses is a
part of the sort of like service in sea of
the sort of services church services. But there, that's the
first time I've ever heard of via sing and the
congregations sing back. You know, I found that quite sort
(39:17):
of wow.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
But you just its vibration that that made you feel
within it. Sorry, rich I don't mean to cut you off.
Just it's the spiritual aspects on this one. I'm trying
to get across here. So when they were doing that
response is I felt that vibrational feels and that came
from my solo through into my heart test cavity and
(39:42):
it really sort of like encouraged that communication, which is
strange because cosmologically, in the last few weeks we've been
sitting in communication being key and it's weird how it
kind of like started for us in regards to Saint
Mary's experience that we last went to, and that's sort
(40:04):
of literally bringing that right into the present moment. But
in that moment where they're.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Doing responses, well, for me, it took me back to
my early childhood memories of being in a church. Now,
as you guys know, we mentioned before my Roman Catholic background,
So the church that I used to go to, we
(40:32):
have that type of service that the priest sings and
everybody else's answer back singing, and to me always starts
right on my sacral and it comes right up through
me and it transports me to such a heavenly place.
(40:55):
And being in that church, it took me back to
that route that I deeply miss. And again why did
I miss? Because of the singing and the vibration that
triggers within you, and that vibration as it goes and
it goes out in the ether, it's so beautiful, so sacred,
and that is what raises everyone's vibration. And where now
(41:21):
links where the planet be changes and with no communication.
It's been such a key for quite a while, hasn't it.
And how we communicate often it's not from a higher frequency,
it's actually very low. And I felt that especially the
four of us coming together on this spiritual journey to
(41:44):
learn and explore and expand four of us to be
in that sacred place, in that service, working that frequency,
that vibration within us, and for you to be so
aware of that experience what from is the most natural thing.
It was such a gift. But one thing I did
(42:07):
observe within my churches, we would do the Our Father's
prayer and would always follow by the hail maybe And
one thing I left the church very deep in thoughts
about it. A beautiful church dedicated to the Virgin maybe
(42:29):
and not once they done her prayers.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Wow, that's something to be explored later. I felt for
me when I was sat there through the service. We
were sat by one of the posts, and on that
post there was a new real that was done by
the Reverend bas Copin, and it was of Saint Peter's
and then of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
And also there was a.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Stained glass window high above on the far right hand side,
and it looked like a jigsaw puzzle, lots of different
bits of stained glass put in there. It doesn't look
like a picture at all. It puzzled. In fact, it
puzzled me. And the red and white sorry, the red
and blackstones outside the priorities too, and also by the
(43:20):
Virgin Mary. I was seeing stain glass window, but the
only part of it that my brain was able to
sort of like focus on in this stain glass winners.
I couldn't tell you what the stained glass was. All
I could tell you was I know that the William
became really important there was it was almost like William,
it was really really important. So I'm like, right, okay.
(43:40):
So I enjoyed the service and devoted, I have my prayers,
we do the thing, we have a good look around,
we go out into the churchyard. We're really enjoying the experience.
We feel back to being centered. And it was a
lovely time, wasn't it. It was a really lovely experience.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, it was worth the
way to put it that way, And I certainly feel
now sort of like reflecting.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
On it, and it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Perhaps it was their things started fall in place for
me getting more sort of like a cur and even
though my sort of major event happened a little bit later,
but I feel that that aspect of the journey for
me was important. Don't ask me to go into it
(44:33):
too deeply. I'm not pretty sure why. But if I
was to put a finger on it saying where did
it all start? I would be very very confident to
place it there.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Interesting life on air and exclusive to p a UK Radio.
His awakenings started at the Saint Mary's Church in One World.
So anyway, we came off the back of that particular experience.
Now we take loads of photographs, you know that, we
(45:11):
have a good mutu around. We write in the geocash,
you know, like all of those things have like settled
in and we're now looking for those four key points
that we look at. So we photograph the Titanic grave,
the World War two guy that we'd found, the craft
guy we the privacies to him, obviously, and remnants of
(45:34):
what we know about the silly Ard family within the church,
and obviously loads of other photocasts with beautiful stained glass windows,
one in specific being the arch Angel Gabriel. Now again
bringing it into the present, how focused I was on
(45:54):
that particular stained glass window. And since then, what's happened
in the last few weeks is we've seen more and
more signs about the Archangel Gabriel, including our very own
literally last night, we were at a different church, different story,
so we'll just pute to the thing. But we find
a trumpet. We find literally a trumpet, and it's like
(46:18):
Archangel Gabriel's heralding message has kind of hit the earth,
and it was like, that's the kind of psychic impressions
that come through. So in the last three weeks, Archangel
Gabriel has been in everybody. So if he's been heralding
everything that needs to happen or not happened, so just
be aware of that because all the eas is herald
(46:38):
and we just it's like a town crier. So I'm
really paying attention to this. So off the back of
this we puddle off and we go right. I suppose
it's about time we actually did a bit of deeperent
research and what we've actually seen. And this is where
we started kind of like come a way more from
(46:58):
psychic and we're looking for validations And I'm a lot
more flexible and fluid because I don't I just allow
a research sef is how I do it. I follow
a thread, I get a thought, and I google it
and see what happens. Richard's a lot more structured in
his form of research. And in between all of this
(47:20):
we get regular downloads from How does that work for you?
Because after the event Marlanea, you continue to get downloads,
don't you, from the event of the church?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So how does that work? Because we're working with what
we experienced in the moment and what came to the
fore for us. And then alongside of this, you're kind
of like adding meat to bone or trying to add
meat to bones, aren't you?
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Yeah? Yeah, something like that, isn't it? And The thing is,
once they get me to those sacred places and I
am open, So what they do it's kind of like
a little responge. They soaked me out with all the
information that is needed and I'm still open and the
orpens it is until they said now it's time to
(48:12):
a step back. So for me, it's quite normal.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
How we three kind of work in the aftermath. You
kind of call it you knowing what you experienced, how
you felt, you're following threads. So we get to the
point of the four points that Richard kaleidoscoped into with
this article, we then start going, okay, so we focused
(48:40):
on those while we were kind of there, But what
else did we get now?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
Two?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And I'm gonna only really talk about too, because the
prioress is too, and the Soulliard family, the Flemings, and
the popular Poplars. It's kind of like a massive thread
that has yet to full fit or its potential. That's
just more there, and we haven't quite separated the wheat from.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
The chaff on that No, we're in between the.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
But the two most validating pieces of information that came
forward came from the most unexpected angles. I would have said,
because I first started looking at I did look into
the Prioress's tomb in regards to why was it empty
when they opened it in the nineteen hundreds, Right, it
was opened, there's no prioress in there, But empty tombs
(49:35):
in churches is actually a common thing because it's representative
of the empty tomb when they went to go and
see if there was Jesus there. There's an empty tomb, right,
So it's symbolic of that. So that's not surprising. But
I kind of like kind of ran out of thread
on that one, and I find that the thread of
the who the Prioress is supposed to be is sketchy
(49:59):
and we can't haven't quite got the right connection on it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, when I've looked into her, I mean you're just
sort of, you know, because all we've really got the Internet,
and there's only what's available there, and it's and you
just kept up and directed back to the same resource.
I mean, there's there's very there's only one resource out
there really that's somebody's sat down and written, and so
(50:30):
you just it just keeps going back to there, and
you can't seem to sort of get much beyond that.
You know, and this is like basically a seventeenth century account.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
It is, late seventeenth century account, and that's.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
All we've got, you know, So that's all we've got
to work with.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
I mean, you know, it's a difficult one. And family
and this is sort of like the Sillier family and
the prioress are so intertwined, and let's be fair, they
had lots of children back in the day, they had
lots of renaming with the same name, and it gets
a little confusing. So we're leaving those two particular throws
(51:15):
to the side for the next you know, for the
rest of this particular show. We did look into the
World War two pilot, as you do. So I have
a little look around and I just came across like
a little website with information on it and the guy's name.
(51:37):
This is the thing, right, This is the really weird thing.
The guy who we know about, right is what was
his name?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Oh? Which it's a William, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
It wasn't No, it wasn't. The one in Romwel Church
Saint Mary's is Sergeant E. A. Robinson, Arthur Robinson, who
was a Royal Air Force volunteer Reserve and he flew
at Vickers Wellington eighty six to eight and it actually
collided with an Ex nineteen ninety four, the same unit.
(52:18):
It struck a hangar and burst into flames. Now we're
right at the bottom of that information because I'm thinking,
oh God bless him, you know, I kind of the
wonder if he had crew with him. And there was
a one name right at the bottom, and it was
Sergeant William Tate Cuthbertson of the Royal Australian Air Force.
(52:40):
And that blew me away because first of all, we've
got a William. Secondly we've got the Australian Air Force
in we had picked up months and months ago. Yeah,
which was just crazy to me. And it was came
from the most unexpected place of being, coming through Saint
Mary's in Rumwell. It just blew my mind a little bit.
(53:02):
And the panic survivor as well. In the churchyard he's
under Edwis Ryerson. So I just have a look into
that and his name is William Edwards Ryerson and I
was just like, here's another William, right, So at this
point I did start googling Williams of the sill Yard
(53:23):
family and This is where I got a little confused,
so we're leaving that to one side.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
But he was born in.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Eighteen seventy eight. He served in the British Army in
the Bober War, was awarded the Queen's Medal with two clasps.
He was actually a second class steward on the ill
fated Titanic, right, but he was actually assigned a lifeboat,
and it was his lifeboat was the number nine. And
nine is really key when you read Andrew Collins's account
(53:52):
about the sacred of Well nine, it's like, and that's
the only reason he got off the Titanic, because that
was like his assigned boat. There were because if you
think about it, only thirteen was actually launched from the Titanic.
He lived.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Quite a full life, really, you know.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
He came over, did it?
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Did?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (54:23):
What was really weird for him when he's on the
Titanic was there were distant members of his own family
on that on the boat as well, that's right, and
he didn't even know that they were on the boat. Now,
after this, he served in the First World War. They
think he served in the Song and basically he ended
as a warrant Officer class with the Royal Artillery Regiment,
(54:46):
and he ended up having a quieter end to his
life living in Runwell. But how fascinating again A William
pops up and all of these things, and it just
blew my mind. On this particular night, it just blew
my mind because that colide scope collided yet again. But
we've only half clicked it as it well, we're not
(55:08):
quite clicked in yet. But is it fascinating her spirit work?
Speaker 4 (55:13):
Well? I know, well, I love how spirit work. Obviously,
my faith and trust in them have always been dead,
and it just gets stronger and stronger for me. The
difficulty eats. I don't expect people to be open as
I am, but when people are not so open and resisting,
(55:36):
and it makes harder for them to actually share the magic.
So but now that you guys are getting more and
more open and starting to get more and more how
I rework in our little crazy way, and your guys
are putting things together, It's getting really exciting and I
just cannot wait for more and more of these to come.
(55:58):
So I carry on an opening guys.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
What I will say is we always enter churches and
graveyards with the utmost respect for the theology for the community,
for the estuds that are in the ground there, and
I urge everybody to do the same whenever they're out
and about these churches. And I'm hoping you should. It
(56:22):
should be a no brainer, right, guys, should be brain.
Speaker 4 (56:26):
Yet people people still got to learn respect because the
respect concept is very misunderstood. But one thing I would
definitely say, everything we say and do no in the
intention that we are doing, it will come back to us.
So if you think you're going to have a party
(56:48):
and the graveyards, trust me, you will not be alone.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
With you guys, I think, uh, you know. And we've
met people as well.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I mean not a lot of people, but the people
we've interacted with, you know, visiting the churches, going to
the services, they've always been very eyeing, very open, you know.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
We've always been felt welcome, and you can't felt that
well no, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Thought community spirit was dead, you know, like living the
life before you know, the spiritual journey. I thought community
spirit was dead and bury it kind of like forget it.
You're fighting for your own survival kind of on your
own kind of vibe. And this is far from the truth,
and it's only a scratch beneath the surface. Now we're
(57:39):
not here, you know, like to advocate Bible, you know,
studies and stuff like that. But the theology is fascinating
and helps you reflect within yourself for understanding and awakening
and the messages that are coming through from that theology,
which is very comfortable for me because I'm seeing E
(58:00):
and my Lane is quite comfortable because she's Catholic, so
it's very similar, and Richard is very c of E,
and as is our Darryl, you know, so within that,
they're allowing us to explore our spirituality within a theology
framework that we're really comfortable with, and those messages of
(58:22):
what they're telling us when we're in that space is
incredibly I just honestly, I get mind blown on a
regular basis of how all the threads come together in
one space. It's phenomenal. Anyway, That's where we're up to
with Saint Mary's in run Well, but the story doesn't
just end there. You are going to have to join
(58:45):
us for episode three to find out the next threads
and adventures that we've been psychically led on and what
transpired when we into the environment. Thank you so much
for listening guys. Last words for you, Malina.
Speaker 4 (59:03):
Well, thank you for listening to us, thank you for
your time. If you're adding a light, carve you on
in the light. If you are not, pray, pray hard.
Prayers will take you to beautiful places. And don't think
you're being silly, because you're not being silly. We need
more than that. Have a wonderful time until we meet again.
(59:23):
God bless you all.
Speaker 3 (59:25):
And for myself, perseverance does count. It does count in
this sort of environment. You know, when you start off,
you know, don't well for me, you know, I don't
expect to get it all at once, But if you
persevere it, things will fall into place. And I will
leave that with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
And all I'm gonna say is I have the episode.
We'll see you very soon.
Speaker 3 (59:55):
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