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August 2, 2025 109 mins
The gang discusses a number of topics including the whereabouts of the infamous biblical relic known as The Holy Lance. Plus, the strangest UFO sightings ever in the UK, 10 Bad
Jokes courtesy of Susan K and tales from the “other Dorchester.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best
in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around
the world every month. Most of them can be explained
as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,
abductions of remote viewing Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the

(00:55):
Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high and
voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are
revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So join Mac and the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Of the game one one Switchy club Susan Kay and
Uncle Lao, Brandy X an Aged X as they delve
into the ultimate mysteries of time and space. This is
Mac Maloney's Military X Files, and now here's.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Mac Wow Wow Wow. Here we are again. Welcome to
Mack Maloney's Military X style show here on the Distant
thunder Or Radio Network Production Values broadcasting live from the

(01:52):
Stobby Galley Restaurant, fifty five Wata Street in Newbybune, Massachusetts,
Great Seafood Restaurant, Great Hamburgers, Great steak and cheese. Sammy,
I can't eat.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Any of it. What you're saying, I can't eat any
of it?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh that's right. Okay, we're not going to get into
your secret project. Okay, what do you have notes about it?
We don't want to hear about it. I'm driving you there,
and I don't even want to.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Hear about it.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
You better not be lady either.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Let me, let me, let me, let me introduce the
members of the posse. Okay, the girls. He's here. You
can hear the Crown in the background honoring him. So
get your um, get your fans, sit yourself down and
get your fan get a big box clean it's big
box of wipes, it's weed, and your lou because the
very famous one one is here.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Hello Mac, Hello, everybody happy to be here, especially the ladies.
I know the ladies. You know what. Speaking of the ladies,
I haven't got a lot of fan mail from them lately.
I won if i'm we've been holding you back? Yeah,
I wonder if i'm uh it's.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's submerged in clubs pool for thirty.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
In appropriate to those of the rules. Hope not, but yes, Okay,
I'm glad to be here and matter of fact, glad
to be anywhere.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
We all it's hot hair.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
It's too hot baby.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hundred degrees in Massachusetts anyway, I don't want to say
talking about hot, but there's no other Gazinta. Also joining us, Yeah,
live from the galley is producer, engineer, a beekeeper, and
a tanning animal. As it turns out, it's uh okay.

(03:30):
Well with kiddies, pal all n out though, Hey Max,
Hello everybody. Well, lovely weather we're having, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (03:37):
It's yeah, it's really bad.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
We waited and waited for summer and complained that everybody
was complaining it was cold, and now it's It was
one hundred and three at the house and.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Laid on the deck for a while. It took a
nap in the sun.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
I'm in my little room with the ACA on eleven, Max,
and he's out there in his speedo.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
No, no speedo, no speedo like I would own a speedo.
All I don't even know a pair of short pants.
Come on, Switchy is putting up? What's that say, vomb
No I we're too close to the mics. No for me,
say it really too close to the mics?

Speaker 7 (04:17):
You a geat it's still you're still breaking up a.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Bit all of us.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
Yeah, okay, yes, I agree.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
Okay, how's that switch? Is the switch?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So anyway, thank you one one for being here, Thank
you all for being here.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Glad to be here also with us.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
You've heard his uh always a little while ago, chastizing me.
Down there is our senior international correspondent down there and
my sisters telling Tom West Virginia, which played Steve Ward.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
Switch you could just say, sing your tank correspondent.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Well, well over there see and and let me listen.
I just realized that two of our guess are wearing
muscle shirts. Three three right, Well, it's there's only one
I want to.

Speaker 8 (05:14):
See three degrees here, get away with.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It and I yeah, and I introduce you when your
time comes there explain.

Speaker 6 (05:25):
So switchy, how are you? Okay?

Speaker 7 (05:27):
I am beyond wonderful.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, There's two things I want to talk to you about,
and we have to do it immediately. First of all,
that that you have literally a muscle shirt on.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Correct, Well it's.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
They I guess that's what they call it. But right,
it's it's a little warm here in uh West by God, Virginia.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Up until this moment I would have said, I'm the
whitest guy on the planet, but no more.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
You are. Also what is with the hair? The hair?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
What do you have a fan blowing on you for
special effects? A little patch of hair there? Absolutely sure,
and you're afraid that's going to come off or something?

Speaker 7 (06:04):
No, I have a double sighted duct tape.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Thank you, switch you for trying. Also with us already
laughing up the storm is a senior international security chief
with a club WC.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
How are you you know?

Speaker 9 (06:22):
I'm doing very well and I, as you know, I
come here for the laughs.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Who doesn't.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
He isn't very good? So I said, what's the incentive?
And I watch you guys down there in the remote studio,
if that's what you call it, And that's enough to
keep me going.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
For the night, if you keep you on laughs. Okay, well, but.

Speaker 9 (06:44):
I'm looking forward to another big show tonight. And it's
good to see that we've got a one of our
members here, long long old member. Very yeah, sure, very
often who will be here? And I tell you you
must have given him some extra incentive.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I guess, yeah, game of hat so even when they
have to look at the top of his head.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Oh, let's see.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I'm sorry I haven't introduced him yet before that, though
I know Susan kay tonight she has uh, she has
huss things to attend to, apparently very hot down in
North Carolina as well. But joining us is the other
good angel Brandy X up there in wisconinsin Brandy, how

(07:24):
are you?

Speaker 10 (07:26):
I am fantastic excited to be here.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
M Hello Brandy.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Now you were also wearing a muscle shirt. But yeah,
that's a muscle shirt. Well, the well, I don't know
from what I can see, I don't know it's a
sleeveless shirt. Let's say, right, yeah, yeah, you got these
other two guys beat by.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
A couple like yeast.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's what we're saying.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
The one, well, what are.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
You stepping on her intro for? If you think she
looks so good?

Speaker 10 (07:56):
I wore the shirt because it's green, because the last
episode you gave instructions for everybody to wear green tonight
in support of Switches Green.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well, you're the only one who remembered that it is
lame green shirt on last week.

Speaker 10 (08:13):
Hey, I love green that I'm wearing it.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Okay, oh brother, Okay, we're gonna bring in someone hot
hair Okay, over there, please, spacey, Tracy is here. It's
just a little technical stuff. Here we go and the
old days we've be able to put music in here,

(08:37):
but we can't now. Well, good thing one once here, okay, okay, well, okay, yikes,
hello spacey Tracy. How are you? I'm just talking right
into the microphone and will.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Yikes.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'm saying because oh, because you kind of look like
a model. Have you ever don any modeling model?

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Have you really?

Speaker 11 (09:14):
No?

Speaker 6 (09:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
No really, but even even with the muscle things and
stuff like that.

Speaker 11 (09:19):
I've been fitness stuff, yeah, back in the day, but
not like mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Okay, and just for those listening, she also has a
muscle shirt on.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
She got them.

Speaker 11 (09:32):
Wait a minute, one.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, there's anyway over a quota of Georgia. Let's go
home and change.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
You get to see you.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
Tracy is local very well.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Well, okay, we've been kind of keeping from you. You've
only met her about four or five times, and I've
told you that, but that we understand at your rage
is tough. So thank you for joining us and thank
you for having out. Oh my god, it's it's brutal.
I'm like, and w's's the Jimmy's at the gym. At

(10:06):
the gym later O good, okay, all right, well if
we step out of money and beat the shut out
of all right. Anyway, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
I have met her and she's from hometown.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Wonder she looks so good.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Let me I.

Speaker 11 (10:26):
Remember, yes, we met before less summer.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Let me introduce him first. Also joining us from his bunker,
Agent X up there in New Hampshire near the diaper spot.
Is that still open?

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Don't even stop me in that. We've showed up there
with pitch fox and torches.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
You guys.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Sounds about day.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
The next day she put her legs between her legs
and went back down to Massachusetts.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Also a true story. In the time where X lives,
there was a spa, sorry, there was a diaper spa
and for a hundred bucks an hour you go in there, adults,
and we're a diaper And as they said, let nature
take its course, all right, true? And I gave the
ending no wa yeah, well let me yeah, but is

(11:25):
that true or not?

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
And then so we were going to send X in
there with a GoPro camera just to see what was
going on. Correct.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Everyone believes that's gone the next day.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Okay, no, it took months for them to get out.
So anyway, Asian next, thanks for Jordians.

Speaker 8 (11:45):
This is not Massachusetts up there, that's damn sure.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah right. Oh oh, so let me just explain because
we'll be mentioning in all my Donchesters a part of Austin.
I think it's south of South Boston, which would be
a really good title for something. Is it south of
South Boston? Yeah, as you drive it definitely is, but

(12:11):
I don't know anyway, so yeah, yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
I'll just interject. Sorry, got rats is the best rats?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Right?

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Dot Rats?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
People grow up there are known as dot rats. But
so the three of us are from your Tommy and
I mean Agent X and Spacey Tracy. I can't, I
can't not say your real name.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (12:37):
That's okay.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
I think it's funny myself.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
So if you hear about Dodchester coming up the next two,
I was, you know what? H So we're all here
and I introduced everyone. I'm sorry, I think so I
have to goggle. Yeah mm hmmm. So sorry, So before

(13:01):
we start the show, Susan Kay can't be with us, tonight,
but I have to address something that do orr Andy
and her I got together and did. We're talking about
kringles Kringles on the show a couple of nights, a
couple of weeks ago. You know what a kringle is?
A kringle or pringle cringle, Well, okay, yeah, it's a

(13:22):
Wisconsin thing. It's a very light, not really light, but
very kind of compressed coffee ring okay, Danish, and we're
talking about it. One one has had them. He said
they're addicting, and so they were nice enough to send
me to As you know, I'm on a rice and

(13:42):
water diet, not supposed to eat any of this stuff,
but they are addicting. That's I ate half of one.
I'm not supposed to be eating any of that.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Ate my half.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
It's just a great combination of you know, it's not heavy,
but it's lots of flavored. Just yeah, really nice. I
would have brought him tonight, but I think they would
have melted.

Speaker 11 (14:04):
Is it like flaky.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Kind of yeah, that's kind of a very light texture
like that yet.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Right, And there's a filling. There's a filling usually inside
and the one that I ate half of was has
a chocolate filling, but I guess they all so anyway, Brandy,
thank you so much for doing that. I appreciate it.
You're welcome, Okay, my cardiol just want to appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
But the krinkle is the state pastry, is it not?

Speaker 6 (14:31):
Is it it should? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think it is.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
They're really good, great combination, So thank you very much.
So coming up tonight, we're going to have a couple
of reports. Brandy's going to be talking about what is
it again, Brandy.

Speaker 10 (14:47):
The Spear of Destiny?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay, is that the spear that they stabbed that they
used to when Christ was on the cross and what
happened to the spear afterwards? That type of thing kind
of yeah. Yeah, So Brandy talks to us, is with
us every week talking about like kind of supernatural kind
of you know, paranormal stuff that happens in religion, and

(15:10):
it turns out that there's a lot of them instances
of it. Also, Switch is going to give us a
report on well, it's going to.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
Be from the Haunted Sky series and they it's a
fantastic series, and I'm going to be focusing on some
of the so called humanoid reports, landings and so forth.
They're just very bizarre. Uh. Anyway, you'll just have to
listen to them to hear them. But there we've We've

(15:41):
talked about Albert Wizales before, who has an amazing database
that goes from O one A D to well the
present time, and he's got several books out to cover it.
Humanoids to others amongst us. And when you get into
this stuff, you know, not everybody's lying or crazy. But
if they're not, not everyone, it's a really bizarre universe

(16:01):
out there.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, change things do happen?

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Listen? Is that tough to here?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Blowing in the wind? Upsetting anyone else but me?

Speaker 6 (16:10):
You know? Can you put on that?

Speaker 7 (16:12):
No fear it's double sided duct tape. It's been tested.
You can't see that.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
For some reason, the government is blurring out the title
and okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
John Hanson and Don Holloway and uh he also does
a series of books uh more more global, but he
does have a series on Britain. They're just they're they're huge.
There's all kinds of photographs things, and it's just they're
just amazing. They're not cheap, certainly, don't have them all

(16:46):
quite a quite a good set of them. Just a great.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Resource, very clever way of asking for a raise. He
doesn't have them all. Did you hear that.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
He's crying pro mouth again?

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Well, if you would just increase my per diem might
be happy.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Do you have anything written on that shirt? People want
to know? Is it like like I'm with the idiot
or something? Oh, don't no, don't take it off.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Okay, you did say I'm with the idiot.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
But.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You put it on inside. Okay, Wow, wait, well listen, you.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
Don't have to pay extra for my comedy.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Mac.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
That's good. That's good. I'm glad to hear that we
have a bit. And what it was was susan Ka
was going to write a bunch of questions for Spacey Tracy,
who is the gossip reporter of the Paranormal, but she
didn't join us tonight, so she sent ten jokes. Okay

(17:48):
and hang on, I wonder if I can read them.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Club's going to check out there?

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Ask the question, yes, please ex if you weren't here tonight, now,
what would you be doing?

Speaker 8 (18:07):
What would I be doing?

Speaker 9 (18:09):
The diaper store? Well, we sent.

Speaker 8 (18:16):
Wasn't going there. We sent that lady to wo.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
Wow, we like that kind of stuff, Jess, and.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
She went back to Massachusetts. Oh, no, worries about that.
And the only reason I'm wearing the army hat, and
I don't believe you even asked I never wear a
hat here because I'm not bald. Is because it's the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, we know that. We Yeah, that was that was. Yeah,
they had a hell of a parade. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Did you go to the parade?

Speaker 8 (18:55):
You were the one who went, so you should all
remember that.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
You could read that if you expand it with.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
One hundred and three degrees. So my hair is all
wet and sweaty.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah, okay, I'll just tell people that you took a shower.
Put the hat back on that place.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
No, I'm not to you guys, Yes.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Can you read that? Okay?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Okay, here we go, all right, Okay, okay, thanks extra one,
this tent of them.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
So the idea was we were going to have a
bunch of questions to ask Spacey Tracy because she is
the gossip expert for the Paranormal. Instead, Susan sent ten
jokes about Mothman. As it turns out, I read the

(19:48):
first one's pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
And you know, is this the first one.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Club's going to check out?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Right about? Now?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Let's say it?

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah fine, not all right, okay, here we go. So
now Stacy is going to I mean spacey Tracy is
going to read these jokes. Okay, there we go, There
we go. One one is instructing her on how to
read it. So phone, okay, all right, here we go.

Speaker 11 (20:22):
Don't be fresh over there.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I wonder if we have a laugh track. Yeah, we
don't do it. The is there a laugh track on this?

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Now?

Speaker 8 (20:28):
I know?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I think so we could add one. Well, it's too
late for that. All right, right, here we go, yes,
Susie kay. Comedy right, comedy, right.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
Here we go. Did you hear the latest UFOs are
apparently abducting people just to ask for directions to area
fifty one. They are lost?

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Man hm hmm.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Okay, all right, let's build, we'll build, We'll build.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
Okay, all right, okay, all right, am I.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (21:04):
Did you hear the mac Maloney's Military X Files podcast?
He does it The starboard Gally fifty five Water Street
and Newberry Port. The barroom is so spooky. The ghosts
keep leaving one one star reviews just to complain about
the spirit of the conversation.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Wow, dare they okay?

Speaker 6 (21:29):
All right?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
All right, Susan Kay Susan Caye. Starting out as a comedy.

Speaker 11 (21:33):
Run here are the ghosts of the Are the ghosts
of the dead honey bees from Owl's fives haunting the
garden now? Or are they just buzzing around looking for
a second chance to not get caught in the woodshields?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Wow? All you want to answer to that? They all
got eaten?

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Okay? We just really yeah? By what there's birds go
by and pick pick up free meal.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Just uh, you know, just to review, Al killed about
forty thousand honey bees last year, about forty thousand or so, right?
Is that a conservative vestment? Their hives died off? Yes,
they didn't have the winter. You don't have to don't
spin it.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Kill.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Okay, they're insects. They live and they die.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Let's help we all please next next hilarious tram ow.

Speaker 11 (22:26):
Do you think the ghosts of the dead honey bees
from Al's hives just float around complaining that they never
got to retrieve it, retire and live a life in
a nice flower patch?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Al More, I didn't more guilt on you. I didn't
get to retire and do that, so why should they should?
That's right, that's the way to look at it. Okay, next, Susan, Kay.

Speaker 11 (22:50):
Just okay, can you even trust a Wigi board in
the pool? How do you know if the if it's
the spirits or it's just the chlorian spelling out? Help?

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Your board in the pool?

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Okay, do you want to read that again?

Speaker 11 (23:07):
Let's just let's get Can you even trust a Ouiji
board in the pool?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
And you trust a Ouiji board in the pool, how do.

Speaker 11 (23:14):
You know if it's the spirits or just the chlorine
spelling out? Help?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Okay? All right, okay, well maybe okay.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
That would be a question for Jimmy if he was here.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
If he was here, right, pool guy, the pool guy, right,
that's ready, he puts in pools, right yeah? Okay? All right, Susankay, yes, okay.

Speaker 11 (23:39):
Why do men in black always drive the most boring cars?

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (23:43):
Like are they trying to blend in or are they
just hoping no one notices the alien spaceships in the driveway.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
It's all decoy, all right, okay, not bad? Got the chuckle?
All right, We're going to we're going with building. It's
like cleaning Mount over Us. We're going to hit a peek.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 (24:03):
I wanted to submit a Yelp review for the BnB
and Vermont that Bigfoot and the dog Man opened, But
first I need to know if it's pet friendly.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Oh all right, okay, right, kind of all right? Not okay?
Next please, Okay, maybe she won't listen.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
To the show. I'll be fine.

Speaker 11 (24:24):
Is it bad that the new daycare in newberry Port
looks totally normal except all the kids have pitch black
eyes and keep asking for snacks and permission to enter
your soul?

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Can we come in? Hello?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Oh? Black eyed kids? Black eyed kids? Okay, we're stuck
in this card forsake in town. Black eyed kids are
a paranormal thing when they these little kids come to
your door and they have black eyes and they look
like waves, and they're hungry, and as soon as you
bring them in their house.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
They eat you.

Speaker 11 (24:56):
They turn into the DEMI I saw demons. Yeah, it's
actually a good show.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Settled. Put that hat back on.

Speaker 11 (25:07):
Go ahead, please, Okay, I don't know if I can.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
I know.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
There's one more.

Speaker 11 (25:14):
Is it true the Mothman has been spotted in home depot.
He just hangs out in the lighting section. Now, all right, okay,
all right, okay, has he retired from chaos? And is
he just vibing under dimmibles?

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Okay, well maybe we'll cut that pot out. Yeah all right,
that was okay?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Right? Is that the last Joe?

Speaker 11 (25:48):
Just as rumor has it, he's not haunting anymore. He's shopping,
flapping his dusty wings, muttering about color, temperature like took
his warm like, okay, does it but doesn't flatter me.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
I just like that.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
He's not haunting anymore. He's shopping. Yeah, all right, all
right here, clap it up. Thank you for that delivery.

Speaker 11 (26:20):
Delivery. It couldn't even read it. My eyes are going I.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Bet you know, I honestly bet back when she was
writing those, she was sitting in the barn doing it,
writing it. Okay, go ahead, And I'm sure the horse
was sitting there going, oh, Wilbur you know all right
reference to mister Ede you know, we we yeah, we
got that funny show.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Funny show, especially the one where he joins the Dodges.
That was some reason anyway, Okay, thank you, So that
got the show off to stop anyway start, So, why
don't we do this? Why don't we take a commercial
break now and regroup and we'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 5 (28:42):
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I'm taking a leak in the driveway. I know you'd
like to talk to total stranger. The story has got
nothing to do with the Bruins. Gain, it's what happened
with Grandma. I was wondering if those were Sado mesocism
straps or something. But I digress from what I don't know.

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Speaker 4 (29:50):
Okay, wow, we're back here. Mc maloney's Military Sauce show
here broadcasting here at the stop at Jelly fifty five
Wata Street. You report mess Jesus Bait seafood restaurant. Quite
a crowd out there tonight, and I didn't expect a
lot of people because it's loud too. Yeah yeah, yeah,
and quite a gang here. First of all, your famous

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are one one is here, Wanti.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Collor mac Hello, everybody. I'm glad to be here. Also
glad to be anywhere the seed.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Allow also engineer in residence, producer, get away driver, be
killer Uncle, all the kiddies panel, Oh, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (30:31):
I'm doing great? Mac Hey.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Everybody sitting upot from us again? Why well, there's only
so much room at the table. Okay, that's what Jesus said.
No wait wait wait no home on.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
That's right? Wow? Where did that come from?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Wow? You know you're off the boy.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Upbringing it really?

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Also here in the studio with us is the very
famous Spacey Tracy Let's climb. Yeah, only because she brings
a lot of glamor believe me my mind. Broadcast also
from Dorchester. Correct, Yes, what school did you go to?

Speaker 11 (31:07):
I didn't go to school in Dorchester.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Oh you're one of those people.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Yeah, moved. Where'd you go?

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Well, actually, my dad moved down to Florida with his job.
He got transferred down there. So I went high school
down there and then moved back up.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Oh really yeah yeah, So what part of Florida?

Speaker 11 (31:25):
Melbourne, Florida.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Oh yeah, that's okay down there.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, I've been down I've been to Florida and yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
It's Florida.

Speaker 11 (31:33):
Yeah, I wouldn't go back.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
It's a weird place because, you know, especially down in
South Florida, everything is on in squares it is, yeah,
and it's like gated community on awful corners and then
in front of each one is a CVS. Right, I
mean they literally cvs is that across the street from
each other. And I was down there in my at
the time. My father in law was eighty two and

(31:57):
I had we were visiting, and I had to bring
him to the doctor's office and we went into place's crowded.
He gave his seat to an older person. Oh I didn't, ye, gentleman.
Yeah yeah really wow. So anyway, Yeah, Florida in the
water is so warm. I dropped in the ocean there
and it's like it's not refrashing bath water.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, like bath water.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, it's really one. But other than that, than everyone.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Else, the bugs down there so big. They used those
for science fiction movies and they don't need special.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. And
and the iguana is down there, these things it's it's
like being Jurassic Park down there. I mean, some of
these things ain't huge. And there's sixteen million alligators in Florida.
Can you believe that's sixteen million?

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Can they vote? No, they're part of the bar association.
They oh wow, well coming in.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
And they're all on social Security.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
All right, that's unnecessary.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
It's those palmetto bugs, right, everything.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Huge they are, and they stink, Yeah, they stink. They
like stink. You just you'll walk into a bathroom usually
because they're in the shower or something, because and you're looking,
Oh my god, how that thing getting.

Speaker 11 (33:06):
I went to school at high school with the kid
that one of them crawled in his ear. Oh yeah really,
And he couldn't understand why I was having like these
headaches and things. So we went to the and they
had to remove it. It was in his ear.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Wow was it still alive? For the kid of the bug,
they lay eggs and all.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Let's imagine the spider who lays a.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Million eggs in your brain.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Complain that had crappy Wi Fi.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
They probably just rehabilitated it.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Oh man.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Okay, So that's what what else you need to know
about Florida?

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
And as hot as unbelieving, and it's hot and they get.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
I've been down there for business and I enjoyed it.
But they're just down there for a week.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
That's about the limit vacation. It's not in the summer.
I've been down there in the summer and it's it
is And all I can think of is how the
colonists and stuff? How did they live back in those days?
You know there were people in Florida on the seventeens.
How did you live without? It is what they wear? Yeah,
and they had them all dressed up all the time. Anyway,

(34:13):
Other than that, it's great. What a place. Also, so
we've introduced him one here and the guy winning hockey team.
Yeah when you didn't know it of all the places,
rid my shand yeah, it's okay, what's that say?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Ryan?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Also with us out there.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
In the universe, is our it's no our senior international correspondent.
He's he's throwing you off with the muscle shirt, the
mug and the cow channing glasses, switch plate, Steve Wood switching.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
I don't want anybody to be intimidated by my muscle shirt.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Don't worry about that. No problems here they have. My friend,
did you turn the fan? Offers? It's still on?

Speaker 7 (35:05):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Did you turn the fan office? Oh no, it's still on.
I can still see that.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
It's actually here.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
Okay, all right, I used that for my promotional photographs.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Yeah, we can tell.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Also with us is nipping at his heels? Is our
international security chief Uli Club.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
I don't. I don't nip at anyone's heels. Well, it
just doesn't happen, doesn't happen. But I wanted to take
this opportunity room. Hey, I wanted to ask Al. I
read an article yesterday in the paper in al As.
You know, he's a king be here, but there's a
infestation of killer bees now in the thirteen different.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
States, thirteen really.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
And I wonder Al if you could give us an
update on that, because he's talking about stopping people from
having bee hives and stuff because they're afraid that the
killer bees are going to come in and create some problems.
Are you aware of that?

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Yes, that whole issue is you know, it started with
Africanized honeybees. They were imported to Brazil and some scientists
was going to try to make a more productive honeybee
because the African honey bees have a lot less to

(36:32):
work with, so they are far more productive given their situation.
But they're more aggressive because they have to fight far
more animals off. Yes, they're not any bigger than a
regular honeybee. They're not. Their sting is no worse. They're
just far more relentless. In Yes, if you went up
to a regular honeybehive and you took a hammer and

(36:55):
you banged on the hive a couple of times, they
would send out about five ten bees to see what's
going on? Okay, really, and you know, and if you
didn't get away fast enough, you might get stung once
or twice. If you did that.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
To a hybrid high one that's been africanized, they'd send
out about one hundred. Oh really, see what's going on
and you would get stung twenty times. Yeah, yeah, and
they will follow you for a mile. Oh yeah, they're
really relentless. So where are they at?

Speaker 6 (37:26):
What data they are? They're down? They came up through Texas.
They came up right from Brazil. Yes, they came up
through Panama. They came right up through Mexico.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
How far way are they from Massachusetts?

Speaker 6 (37:36):
They're never going to get to Massachusetts because they don't
like winters.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well, what's the problem.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
So it's not what I read.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
They said, there's a there's a break point where they
won't go any higher.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
No, they get it. I was reading that they adapt,
they're climate and things of that sort, that they probably
can't live in the snow and the cold winter. But
I read that they'll be here for a spring and
summer at some.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 10 (38:02):
Then?

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Now I'm gonna send you guys.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
It's funny because you can tell really quick if there's
an Africanized hive nearby. They make a lot more noise,
and you could, you know, suit up and go over
and kill the queen, you know, I mean, you kill
her and put a new queen in there, and they'll
go back to being docile again. It's all it's all
in the queen's genetics, you know. Okay, you know you'll

(38:28):
have a fight on your hands. I mean, they'll even
go after Where people have a problem now is you
could be mowing your lawn on a riding tractor and
in the next door neighbor's yards there could be a
honeybe hive that are you know, a hybrid hive, and
you'll piss them off just by the vibration and they'll
come for you and they won't stop. They'll just.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I have no one. Thank you, thank you for updating.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
So the bottom line is they're coming this way and
it sounds like it's an epidemic.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
At some point. Okay, don't want to.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
You, but you know, make sure that they're really Africanized
before you just start killing them. If they're coming for you,
if they're really coming for your heart, you'll know it. Okay.
And again, they don't sting any harder, they're not anymore deadly.
It's just there's more of them. Well, because it's a

(39:29):
mass killer. There's actually a a formula of how many
stings per pound an adults can take before it's fatal.
And they're going to be you. Yeah, Well, and they said,
don't like whatever you do, don't swat at them and

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don't don't jump in the water, don't run.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Tick them off.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
Basically, well, yeah, if you start swatting at them.

Speaker 11 (39:58):
You're going they're just bees without it.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
He'll crush them if you great name for a band.
If you crush them, you you get the pheromone on
you more than you normally would. And like I said,
you've got to keep going.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
You can. Why in the water. Why not, because you've
got to come up waiting for you. Oh yeah, and
your head, your head, they're really they're very unpleasant voice
of doom.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Oh all right, thank you for killing six minutes. Also,
so Club, did that answer your question? Club?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (40:37):
I did, But he didn't satisfy me that he's concerned
Enoughing someone who's an expert on bees, it's more like defending.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Them, right, Yes, of course I'm not. I'm not defending them.
I just don't think they're going to get up into
this climate and survive.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
Well, I can only tell you what the experts.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
I read the I read a couple of articles the
other day and they said, there's a definitely hard line
of climate that they will not go.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Past an aliens involved at all with these bees. There's
there any chants that they maybe okay maybe okay, now
all right, So I was introducing everybody, right, I introduced
cloud and now it's time to instuce Brandy X. Brandy,
thanks for joining us.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
No sunglasses tonight?

Speaker 10 (41:27):
No hat, no no, no, not for.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
The hat okay, all right, okay, and too cool for
the glasses.

Speaker 10 (41:35):
Hopefully it'll cool off and I can sport them next yeah,
I so thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
You have a report later on on the spear that
they speared Christ with and what happened to it afterwards? Right,
kind of an odd story. Also speaking about odd stories,
is Agent X's with us X.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
How are you never better? I actually very comfortable with
that story about the bees, because that's one of my personal,
uh interests.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
You're interested in bees?

Speaker 8 (42:12):
You a web club is one?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Right?

Speaker 8 (42:16):
And by al is one hundred wrong?

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
Scientists say they are dangerous, but they'll only come up
to Massachusetts. Turn the page, ever, Welcome up to New
Hampshire because we take care.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Of get another you know what I mean? Turn the
page all right, next chapter with that Massachusetts. Anyone who's
been to New Hampshire knows.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Knows what It's not the best place in the world.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
It's not. I'm sorry. There for there's no seat belts,
there's no insurance. There are people driving around uninsured car. Okay,
there's no seatbelt law, no helmet law, no helmet law.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
The legislature about twenty years ago spent thirty five million
dollars to defeat a thirty million dollar bill to institute
statewide kindergarten. For some reason, they didn't want kindergartens in
New Hampshire.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Yeah, that is that is stupid. You got to have kindergarten,
you know.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And why why I spend more money than it would
have cost to defeat it?

Speaker 6 (43:26):
You know, that's just.

Speaker 8 (43:27):
Three word including that and in is wrong?

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Is he breaking up? He looks like in.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
New Hampshire and you have to wear a seatbelt.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
They don't, and a diaper and a diaper whoa.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Yeah yeah Mac, you do have to wear a seatbelt
and the type.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
He gets anyway, But that was the best story. I
like that.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Okay, good, were glad we faus.

Speaker 8 (43:54):
But they don't worry club. They won't come up to
New Hampshire.

Speaker 9 (43:57):
Okay, you know, I really I don't care.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
But Mississippi, yeah yeah, it's the Yellabama of New England.
All right, listen, let's stop dumping on the South.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Let's go to Hampshire's got Hampton Beach.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Come on, that's the problem that Hampton. There's a nice place.
Nice nice. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Yeah, you speak French.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
That's that's my dietary. Food got apples on it. It's
got fruit. Got your brains, You got your fruit.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
That's why you're in such good shape. Your sugar, gets
your sugar, A lot of sugar. Right there, you go,
switchy is He goes head down at his desk because
I was supposed to throw it to him about five
minutes ago. So switch you have a report for us. Correct,
that's correct. Okay, let me put in your I mean
trying to put it in your bump of music. Okay,
are you ready? Well you know where it is.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Hang on, and now it's time for another story from
the Lost Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve
Ward's Report from the Fringe.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
All right, SWITZI, okay, you're as I said earlier. Is
from the Haunted Sky series by John Hansen and Don Holloway,
and this particular series, this is a volume seven of
the British series on UFOs and This particular volume is
nineteen seventy eight to nineteen seventy nine, and it's there

(45:47):
are other series that they have UFO events across the
globe and also preserving the social history of UFOs, so
their books are not all confined to Britain. They have
some Australia and New Zealand and they're very very thorough,
and they're expensive, and they're especially expensive when they go
out of print and the third party pirates get ahold

(46:10):
of them because of the price really goes up. Now
I've got to I went through it because kind of
a variety of few for encounters. Again, Albert Rosales' is
the others amongst us. This first one is from Cheshire, England,
Keith Thomas, Stephen Simpson and Glenn Matthews. They were on
their way home from the Golden Lion public House at Rainford, Chesshire.

(46:35):
Now Jeff was driving his Triumph Harold car and this
took place just after eleven pm on January second, nineteen
seventy eight. He crossed the A seven five seventy and
headed southwest on the old coach track. Now it came
to a tee and he wasn't that familiar with the area.

(46:57):
So he turned the wrong way and he's about ready
to turn around and get back on course, and about
thirty feet away he saw a tall figure, about six
and a half feet tall. It had on some kind
of a one piece suit, white white boots, squared off
on the front, obviously not dressed for style, and the

(47:20):
head gear or helmet they said, was about two feet
wide and eighteen inches teeth. Now it was curved, it
was not round or square. They couldn't see a face
in it. The arms hung motionless, his chest had two
red flashing lights, and the entity began to lunge forward

(47:40):
to them. Jeff freaked out. He was able to get
the presence of mind to get the car in gear
and he got the heck out of there, narrowly missing
a tree. Jeff had an asthma attack. So after a
while they stopped at the Brown Birch farm and called

(48:00):
the police. Two patrol cars arrived. A PC McCluskey interviewed
them and told investigators that the kids were scared out
of their mind and visibly and physically. Jeff, who was
having the asthma attack, he was in the back seat
of the car. His legs were shaking, and he was
white as a sheet and he wasn't speaking properly. The

(48:26):
police went back to the spot with Jeff and Stephen,
and of course there was no sign of anything that
happened there, but they took the kids seriously because they
were so shaken up. There was some suggestion that it
was somebody out in the middle of nowhere dressed in
some kind of a suit. But for what it's worth,
there were a couple other signing of strange objects in

(48:47):
this guy about that time. The next day, we're only
talking a few hours into January third, a woman from
bex Hill on s Sussex saw when she looked through
her window a number of strange, meandering orange lights over
several houses on the outskirts of town. After a period
of time that became brilliant and moved off like a

(49:10):
discus thrower. Two and a half hours later, at six
thirty am on June. On June third, Jenny Strutt from
Roslin Crescent, Bentley near near Dorchester. Not near Dorchester you
were talking about, obviously, just saw her husband off to work.

(49:31):
That was a bad weather morning, there were dale winds
and she saw some strange lights in a nearby field.
She looked through the window and over the school playing fields,
she saw them. When she went outside, she saw a
huge saucer shaped object making noise like a vacuum cleaner.
It was pulsing a vivid flash of light. She went

(49:55):
to call the police, the phone was dead. And a
lot of of people saw this, and there were some
that just kept quiet because they were afraid of ridicule.
But it's interesting that it might suggest that whatever these
kids saw, it wasn't just somebody dressed up in a suit.
Susan Stovel was in her in her car with her

(50:18):
husband and her three year old, and in the car
she was looking through the window and she threw a
clear night sky what looked like a huge flying saucer
about one thousand feet off the ground. She wasn't her
husband didn't notice it, but she wasn't gonna get his

(50:40):
attention to it at first, because he was very skeptical
about this sort of thing. But she pointed through the
window and said, what do you think of that? The
UFO had flashing rand and blue lights around it. They
thought it looked as big as an airliner, and they
watched it for about ten minutes they reported to the police.
This is around the same time as the sighting of

(51:02):
the humanoid I just talked about, which again suggests that
it may not have been somebody in a costume. Now
in a place called Devil's Garden at between seven and
seven thirty pm on January twenty seventh, four teenagers who
were concealed in the brush. They were planning to poach pheasants,

(51:23):
and a great pastime for the teenagers. I'm sure this
was in fortune near the river. Soon they spotted a
very unconventional object moving along the surface of the river,
or just above the servants of the river. And it
was heading from the southeast direction of Barton Weaverham. And

(51:44):
it was spherical in shape. It had flashing lights on
it on its side and what looked like windows. It
gave off a glow that made it impossible to look
at it for very long. And it landed in some
brush nearby too far not too far away, and as
it did it made kind of a humming sound. Now,

(52:04):
as they were about to leave, a figure appear to
the side of the object, wearing some kind of a
silver suit, and it had some kind of helmet on.
They couldn't see any features and also what looked like
a miner's light on it. And then another figure, uh,
came out of the object and for some kind of
a cage like a metal with a metal frame like

(52:27):
aluminum or or some kind of silvery metal. There were
cows in the vicinity. They they actually put this thing around,
they said one of the cows. The cows seemed to
be in a stupor. It wasn't you know, it wasn't
wasn't running away?

Speaker 4 (52:42):
When when when window tows? When? When did they not
seem to be in a stupa? What do you think
about it?

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Right?

Speaker 7 (52:48):
Seemed to be in an extra what I can determine now.
So they now they saw, you know, they saw this,
and they thought we better get the hell out of
here case they do something to us. It didn't seem
to be aware of them. And so they gave interviews
to the police, and they thought they were credible. I mean,

(53:12):
it's a wild story, but they wanted to keep their
names out of it. That was quite a few years ago.
There have been attamps to track them down in recent
years to see if they would come forward and tell
their story again. Now we also have another one.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
I don't just can they interject here for a second.
For some reason, it just kind of dawned on me
last week we talked about what happened at Lord's and Fatima.
What's the difference about what just what you just explained,
other than that there's no religious connotation to it, you know, right,
like a strange object arrives, strange things happen, lots of

(53:48):
people see it, and then you know, I'm assuming it
the Potts. I mean, do you know what I mean?
If there's no religious angle to it, it's a UFO sighting.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
Yes, it's like the event at Knock, Ireland we talked
about before in the eighteen hundreds. They saw it was
a bright light overhead that could have been considered a
UFO in more modern times. But the projections underneath were
supposedly Mary Joseph and John the Baptist, and they were apparitions.

(54:19):
People couldn't touch them, their hands went through them. They
had been projections of three grays or some kind of
an alien looking creature. People would have just put it
in another context. Also, Brad Steiger has a great book
called Revelation the Divine Fire, and these are messages that
come from people believe from God, from angels, from mediums,

(54:40):
from automatic writing, from Ouiji boards, and they're all oftentimes
similar messages prophecies about the future. Sometimes they come true
warnings about the future, you know, catastrophes and so forth.
But it's like John Keel said, got to get John
in there. He called it the Great Photograph in the
Sky because and Keel found that some really older published books,

(55:03):
like around the nineteen twenties and so forth, privately published
books of people that believed they had some kind of
a contact with some kind of a other intelligence. And
it's the same message over and over again. Now here's
here's another one another. It's just very bizarre. And ten
pm on April tenth, Anthony Charles Boys sixteen. This is nineteen,

(55:27):
This is nineteen seventy eight. He was sixteen walking home
along East how Lane, born with Well. He spotted a
strange glow at the end of the footpath. And now
when you see a strange glow at the end of
the footpath, yes, so you should get the hell out
of He felt like he was being watched. He turned

(55:48):
around and saw a glowing figure and he was transfixed
by the image. He and it vanished and then it
reappeared behind him. Now he was pound of self paralyzed.
He could not run, and this thing sort of bent
toward him, leaned toward him. He felt the sensation of

(56:10):
pressure on his head and face. He felt like the
thing was examining him somehow. Then it turned seemed to
turn sideways like a cardboard cutout two dimensional, and then
it dissipated into fog and disappeared. Investigator Leslie Harris spoke
to Anthony's parents and they confirmed how his agitated state

(56:33):
when he arrived home at ten pm that night. He
and his parents returned to the scene shortly after. They
couldn't find anything, but they did hear a high pitched
wording sound. They could and they could not identify the sores. Now,
and I'm going to close here. June nineteenth, nineteen seventy eight,

(56:53):
John and Gloria made from Bournemouth at Gloucester encountered a
saucer shaped craft near Oxfordshire. The family is alleged to
have had an abduction, missing time, and strange marks on
their bodies. Now, the full story is in a book
by Frank Johnson called The Janos People. Now I have

(57:16):
that book. It's been on my shelf and I'm gonna
been planning and doing a fringe report on some time.
But it's a full length book and it will have
a lot of information in it. So in the not
too distant future, I hope to continue this conversation with
the mysterious Janos.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
People switching and it's on high, queen, let's clasp the switch,
you know why, just.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
To help my self esteem.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Well yeah, and hopefully you change your share.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
It's high, you know, makes me want to go back
to England and check out all lists as really, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
That's interesting because people see all these things and then
you're right, it's a weird place, you know, it's it's
a strange place. Stuff happens all the time. Not everyone
is lying, not everyone is hoaxing. You know, people actually
see these things. But I just wanted to ask Spacey
Tracy something because you've seen a ghost correct, Yes, Okay,

(58:12):
it's going to sound like weird question, but there's something
behind it with it.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
What were they wearing?

Speaker 11 (58:18):
So when I I've actually, ever since I was a
little girl, I've seen okay, all right, when I what
I see is I just see like to me, it's
it's almost like a gray clu. It's like an outline
and you can tell that it's a person. It's a
woman or a man. I don't actually see clothing kids.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
See because there was the reason for the question is
and the same thing here is like why would ghosts
wear clothes if they were really from the dead. I mean,
but they would wear clothes if there's something in your
own mind, you know what I mean that is producing
the effect or whatever you're you're you'd you'd you'd be

(59:02):
seeing them as you kind of remembered them or something.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Funny. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (59:07):
The well, at the time that I saw the the
ghost in the apartment in selfie after the fire, the
young guy that had died in the fire, I didn't see,
like all I just saw was an outline of him.
There was like a young man with glasses, and but
I didn't see, like I can't tell what it was wearing.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Oh yeah, the traffic police just came in. Okay, do
you want to do it? Well, you are blocking someone
in here, so oh there you go. Okay, if you
go anywhere, fill up the tank right now.

Speaker 8 (59:47):
But can I ask you question absolutely everything you say.
I always love. Eighty percent of it was about England
and the limey.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Oh boy, we actually have a lot of We have
a lot of listeners and ing on their X Okay,
so choose words carefully pleased.

Speaker 8 (01:00:08):
I know, I understand that twenty percent of it is
about Dorchester. Why did you not expand on that? Uh,
weren't you guys talking about a different Dorchester?

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
It's a different Dorchester. There attention, we are there, attention.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
To clarify, you know, we're talking about you know. But
one thing I want to say is I wonder how
many sightings there were of one one that will end
up in some learned journal in the future on what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
I drank him into.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Yeah, let me just can I just tell you a
little sightings of me. I was probably on the train, yeah, right,
were asking people on the train on the train to Island.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Yeah, the train from England Island.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Let me just tell you a little, a little love
fun fact about X. SO last summer we had a
little gathering on our deck and they see Tracy was
there and probably fifteen other people. And I said to
her there's one person here's from Dorchester.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
Who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
And she just pointed right out of him.

Speaker 11 (01:01:15):
I knew it was you. I could tell, and that's
why they see him here. I said, Storchester people, we
have to stay together.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Almost as good as so we're down. It might have
been the same day, and I'm not sure. It was
probably probably the year before. Ex and I are at
the beach right and Plumb Island. We're just standing there.
The croud from my house went down there. We went
to meet him, and we're just standing there and the
guy walks up to us and he goes, are you
guys from Dorchester? I go why he said? We say yeah, why,

(01:01:46):
he says, the only one here. We're in pants.

Speaker 6 (01:01:52):
But it wasn't a one hundred and three degree anyway,
So yeah, do we clap for you? Switch already?

Speaker 9 (01:02:02):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Are you okay? We won't go to my Hell's not
Harry's joy riding in my cob, but pretend you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
We're willing to give you the clap a number of times.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Wait, hang on, Well, well I'm all the material, So
why don't we do this? Why don't we take a
quick break now and hopefully we'll go right this time.
So you're listening to mccloney's Militars, I'll show here in
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Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
And I just kept going on and on about myself.
I'm taking a leak in the driveway. Just I know
you'd like to talk to total stranger. This story has
got nothing to do with the Bruins Gang. It's what
happened with Grandma. I was wondering if those were sado
mesocism straps or something. But I digress from what I
don't know.

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Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Wow, we love that Beautiful Mind of one one so
much we played it twice that night. Didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
I did notice that. Hey, the more the marrorus as
I'm concerned.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Really, well, it is about you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
So anyway, hey, listen, Welcome back to mccloney's military style
show here in the distant thunder radio network right ethe
live from the Snob and Gellley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street, Newbyport, Massachusetts,
tourist trap, but stop by anyway, we're here, Yeah, broadcasting lab.
The whole gang is here and a little out of control,

(01:05:47):
but we regrouped. We turned the ac on with feeling
a little better now, So let me introduce them very quickly. Girls,
you know he's here. I don't want to say you can
smell them. They'd be wrong, right, I don't think so. Okay, well,
you're fearing knowns. What is it? We were talking about
it earlier with the bees those anyway, Yeah, very famous

(01:06:12):
one one is here gross.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
One of these days I'm going to try the new
beef fragrance. Really yeah, the honey beef fragrance.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
Beef and cheese with beef and cheese.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Beef and cheese. Yeah, that sounds good. You're gonna do
it on a show night or what are you doing?
And then report back?

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
If only I was ripped? I wish I was ripped,
you know that ripped? Yeah, you mean drunk like Jim,
like likes like Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Or oh, I see like Jack like me. You mean right,
you want to be like me?

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Really?

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
One one?

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
Then they drove up to the beach last Saturday with
with my wife Eileen, and I'm looking around him going
why can't I be ripped like that guy?

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
So you o than any tom in your face?

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
Yeah? Really it's all right. Summary I go through this,
I have another drink. You'll forget about it. Also to
be here, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Also talk about being ripped is uncle Al the kiddy's panel?

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Ow?

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
What do you pressed about? Nine hundred?

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
That's smoothie? No, No, I was always just grownny one
hundred and fifty pound kid. However, what happened with I
got old? With the other hand palms coming? Switch is
holding a sign? What's it? Save on? Switchy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
And switch place? Steve? What is here? Switch? What are
you too close?

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Okay, all right, all right, wow, everyone's a credit. Okay, switchy.

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
You're ripped a little bit like like astronauts.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
By the way, I want to want you to know
I have the right to bear arms.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Oh my god, that had that loaded up, didn't you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Well up in Hampshire we have the right to arm bears.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
All right, there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:08:04):
Done, switchy, just another reason I love you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
All right, well X says a couple of drinks and
me gets confessional.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
We could we could double date with Mac and one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
One Yeah that was one.

Speaker 7 (01:08:21):
Anyway there too, you know, supervise Okay, I alost said, improvise.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
But welcome to the Sausage Party.

Speaker 8 (01:08:32):
Oh my god?

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Anyway, how gross is that? Did you ever see that movie?
There's a movie called Sausage Party. You've never seen it.
It's XM stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
I tried, you know what. I tried to tell you
a nice story about you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:53):
I was listening to well, I was listening to your story,
but then you know, they interrupted it. Thanks, But there
is actually a movie called Sausage Party. It's a cartoon.
It's really funny.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Okay on Netflix.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):
Okay, the original title was.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
All right, can I move on? Also with us? Is
I see International Correspondent Willie club w c oh.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
I got a new job.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
What's that you took?

Speaker 9 (01:09:32):
I got the title there for a switch? You called
call me a correspondent? Oh I mean I'm taking a demotion.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Now, International Senior Security Show.

Speaker 9 (01:09:45):
Yeah that's more like it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (01:09:48):
I wasn't insulted, but I was kind of concerned.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Concerns is different than being insulted. Okay, so you've seen
the movie Sausage body.

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
I saw half of it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Half after Sausages better than none in the room.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
What's going on? There's all kinds of nice stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:10:11):
Sausage party.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Oh, he's the one one is watching sausage great. No,
it is not that one, not that one.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
No, No, you know a friend of mine accident an
a motel.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Is that about the sausages in the supermarket after doc
or something? Oh that's a funny movie.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
I said that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the well, the drop the kosher
deli people get in fight in a fight with the
philapas and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
Yeah, okay, that is actually kind of funny. The hot
dogs and the hot dog hot dogs and the buns.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Yeah, you know, is a term in Hollywood they say
for a love scene. They call it hot dogs chasing donuts.
No one, nothing, nothing, Okay, all right, listen, Well he
killed a half a minute. So thanks for being with

(01:11:08):
us club. We appreciate it. Also with us is Susan
Kay couldn't join us tonight, but Brandy acstus Brandy, Hello,
how are you You look lovely as ever? Can I
say that and not get arrested?

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Okay, all right, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:11:29):
I'll take all the compliments.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Really, okay, all right, and I'm gonna wear my sleeve's
shirt next week. What do you think we all do that?

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
We all?

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
We don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
That's a no.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it, and once again,
thanks for the kringle. Also with us is Agent X,
the angry Agent X spot of his therapy if he
connects with other people who won't be so.

Speaker 6 (01:11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Well, I don't think everyone's called you loll but my friend,
you still uh you still have that Irish wolfhound? You
still have an Irish wolf on? Do you?

Speaker 8 (01:12:08):
No? I told you I lost her?

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
Speak up January?

Speaker 8 (01:12:12):
Okay, I lost her a year ago January.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
I'm sorry, okay, okay, all right, it's terrible. Did you
get my cod? No, that's awful. So one time he
we went to this Irish festival down in well Dorchester,
as it turns out, and he had this dog that
was that was the one before this one, and this

(01:12:35):
dog was the size of a pony, literally the size
of a pony. And I member, your wife said to
me go walk them through the crowd, and boy, tell
you about being a celebrity. You know every kid? Would
you want to ride it? You want to take the
picture with it? Very nice, gentle, docile, enormous frigging dog right.

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
Yeah, beyond that? Do you remember what you told me?

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
What I tell you?

Speaker 8 (01:13:03):
Can I borrow him? Was color?

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:13:07):
Walk around and have girls come up?

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Will you wow?

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
Yes? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
He pulls the pin on the hand Grene and then
he just leaves. Thank you. Actually, we're all here, and
what's going to have to apologize on behalf of the
show that when we are heard now on Podbean and
Apple podcasts and stuff, they are putting these ads in
that we have nothing to do with.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
The show.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Last week started with a bucket up ad for New Hampshire.
Buckle up ad for New Hampshire. That not ironic. And
then you know a place that you call if you're lonely, okay,
not not only an undred line, but you know where
you can talk to people, Call Larry. He'd be perfect
for the child. That's called Talkspace. Talkspace and you know,

(01:14:05):
we have nothing to do with it, and they and
they say this podcast is sponsored by and I must
be missing the checks. But that's just the way that
it works these days. And you either get your own
ads and then you throw ten percent to Apple a podbeam,
or they just put their ads in. I wouldn't mind.
I mean, I do mind, but they just like literally
drop them in there in the middle of there's no

(01:14:27):
editing to it, you know, in the middle of a conversation. Boom,
there's an ad there for a minute. Anyway, we have
nothing to do with it. Sorry speaking about Sorry, why
don't we do know?

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Why don't we go to Brandy has a report for
us branding. We're working on your bumper. By the way,
we're working on your bumper.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Yeah, yeah, it has angels in it and everything. That's cool,
but it takes a while to get a bunch of
angels together to those things.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
So so anyway, they have a pretty big union too,
so that they do the best.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
So tonight you can talk about the what is it
the the spear.

Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
Yes, the sphere of destiny spirit is so called the
Holy Lance, and it is also called the sphere of
Longenous or Longinus. It's all the same.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Thing, okay, longeness, Okay, the sphere of what destiny logenous okay,
and the Holy lance the Holy lance m.

Speaker 10 (01:15:37):
It is considered a relic, and just for so everybody's
on the same page. A relic is a physical article
of religious importance that is attached to a historical event
or to people that are connected to Christian religion or
biblical times. And there are a lot of relics that

(01:16:00):
are recognized by the Catholic Church, and we might get
into some more of them in other reports, but for
this one, it's just about the sphere of destiny. If
this spear is associated with the crucifixion of Jesus, and
for that reason it is considered to be a relic

(01:16:21):
of the passion. Relics of the Passion are viewed by
the Church and by Christians as holding the most importance
because they actually came into direct contact with Jesus, so
they're the most powerful during the crucifixion, which is mentioned

(01:16:42):
in a lot of different books of the Bible. Only
the Book of John, in chapter nineteen, mentions the use
of a spear to pierce the side of Jesus. And
you might remember in the Stigmata episode that some of
the people had that wound on their side. It is

(01:17:03):
a wound that was suffered by Jesus during the crucifixion.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
So stigmays is that people are so religiously ultra religious
that they can actually wounds actually appear in their body.
There was similar to the ones that Christ dad when
they crucified him. One of them was a spear, a
stab of a spear in there on the side of
his toasul winds right.

Speaker 10 (01:17:26):
In the John story in chapter nineteen in the Bible,
it says that I'm just going to kind of paraphrase
it rather than do the whole account. It says that
just that because the crucifixion took place on a Friday,
the Jewish people wanted Jesus's body removed from the cross

(01:17:46):
before Saturday because that's their Sabbath. And it was the
custom in Rome during crucifixion if they wanted to hurry
along the death of one of the people that was
being crucified, they would smash their legs and that would

(01:18:07):
keep them from being able to raise themselves on the
cross to breathe, and so then they would basically just
suffocate faster. Yeah, So they went around that day and
they did break the legs supposedly of the other two
people that were crucified at the same time as Jesus,
But when they came to Jesus, they realized he was

(01:18:29):
already dead. He was basically pronounced dead by the Roman,
a Roman centurion who was next to him. Because of that,
the Roman centurion was given the order to pierce him
with the spear, which was kind of a customary thing,
just because fluids would build up, and so they wanted

(01:18:49):
them remove before they took them off of the crosses.
So when the centurion pierced Jesus' aside, apparently the Bible
says that blood and water poured out of Jesus's wound
and it ended up splashing on this soldier. He was

(01:19:15):
partially blinded before this, and when the water and the
blood from Jesus splashed on his face, he immediately regained
his sight one hundred percent. And because of that he
converted to Christianity and became a monk, and he was martyred.

(01:19:36):
He went to live in a monastery, but he was
ridiculed for being Christian because nobody then was a Christian
and they didn't want him spreading the word of Christianity.
So they pulled out all of his teeth and cut
off his tongue so that he couldn't see Christian religion.

(01:19:59):
But he did anyway, which was considered a miracle, and
they are attributing that to this, the fact that he
pierced the side of Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:20:13):
A really strange part of that story is that the
governor who was who had him imprisoned for speaking the
Christian faith himself became blinded. And when this centurion was
killed for being Christian, his head was chopped off and

(01:20:34):
his blood blinded governor, and then the governor could instantly
see and he became a Christian. So it was kind
of like Jesus's blood was now pure, you know, giving
the power and purifying the centurion, and then his blood
was now powerful and he was able to I guess

(01:20:56):
give sight back to this this governor, the Roman soldier.
The centurion didn't have a name in the biblical story,
but he was referred to as long longenous. But it
was probably because the Greek word for lance is loginos,
and so they probably were just calling him the guy

(01:21:18):
with a lance. Okay, so that's where we get the
spear of longeness or why they call it the spirit
of longeness. He would saint Longenus or the Centurion, was
actually sainted because of these miracles. The miracle that he
performed against the governor and the one that was performed

(01:21:40):
on him, and the fact that he could speak even
after his tongue and teeth were removed, so he was
eventually sainted. The Christian doctrine teaches that the sins of
the world are cleansed through the blood of Jesus, so
as soon as the spear pierced jesus body, it was

(01:22:01):
imbued with holy power. And the legend is that whoever
is in possession of the lance will be unstoppable because
they've got the power of Jesus, and those who deny
the lance's power or mistreat the spear will suffer. So
in tracing the legend of the spear, it is said

(01:22:23):
that fourteenth century Emperor Constantine was in possession of the spear.
My apologies. Fourth century Constantine was in possession of the
spear when he called the Council of Nicia, and it
was during the Council of Nicea that Christianity was proclaimed
the religion of Rome, and when the Christian doctrine was written,

(01:22:46):
and they kind of revised the biblical stories at that
time too, and Constantine attributed his success in all of
his battles to the presence of the spear and the
fact that it was blessed with power.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
In the fifth.

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
Century, Attila the Hun was stopped short of taking Rome
after he returned the spear, which he had reportedly confiscated.
He said he didn't want it because he didn't believe
in the person that was supposed to have given it power.
So after its return to the Romans, Attila the Hun

(01:23:23):
was defeated by Emperor Theodoric. In the eighth century, Charles
Martel used the power of the lamps to defeat the Muslims,
and during the eighth and ninth centuries, Emperor Charlemagne was
in possession of the spear, and the legend is that
he would not let it out of his sight, and
he even slept with it, and he was successful in

(01:23:48):
forty seven consecutive battles, and he attributes it to the
power of the spear. And then finally, one time while
he was in battle, he was sick and suffering from
an illness, and he accidentally dropped the spear and he
died shortly thereafter. Wow Emperor Frederick Barbarossa supposedly died minutes

(01:24:11):
after accidentally dropping the spear into a stream.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Would you be more careful with it? And I mean
it was Jesus Good.

Speaker 10 (01:24:21):
Of France, who ruled in the thirteenth thirteenth century, purchased
the spear, along with some other relics of the Passion
from Baldwin the second of Constantinople and King Louis was
a very successful crusader and became the only French king
to be canonized, and is now known to us as

(01:24:42):
Saint Louis, and all of this is attributed to his
acquisition of the Holy Lance. Reportedly, the lance remained in
Europe for another seven hundred years and changed hands with
succeeding leaders, but unfortun because during the Middle Ages, holy

(01:25:02):
relics were sought after as objects of power, some of
them were faked. So a lance that was reported to
be the spear of Longinus has been housed in Armenia
since the late seventeenth century and has since been found
by antiquarians to belong to the wrong time period to

(01:25:24):
have been used in the first century, but they still
regard it as a holy relic. Another purported spear is
believed to be housed at Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome.
Supposedly it was confiscated by the Turks during the Crusades
prior to the end of the fifteenth century, and then

(01:25:45):
in fourteen ninety two, the Sultan had it delivered to
Pope Innocent the eighth in order to bribe him into
keeping the Sultan's brother a prisoner because he was a
rival to his position, and later Pope Edict the fourteenth,
after examining the documentation about that spear, attested to the

(01:26:07):
authenticity of it, and it has been housed in one
of the pillars over the altar at Saint Peter's Basilica
ever since. So the Church believes that to be the
authentic sphere of Destiny. But the most widely believed story
about the whereabouts of the Holy Lands is that it
made its way through Constantine and Attila, the Hunt, and

(01:26:27):
Charles Martel and Charlemagne that we just talked about, and
seven hundred years worth of rulers who slept with it
and hit it, moved it around from Vault de Vault,
and it finally ended up as just a spearhead because
the shaft part was disintegrated, and it ended up in
a Vienna, Austria museum, and in nineteen twelve it was

(01:26:51):
on display in the museum when a school field trip
brought the young student Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Well hey comes in Okay, and.

Speaker 10 (01:27:02):
Hitler later said of the spear, this is a quote
from him. It seemed to carry some hidden inner meaning
which evaded me. I felt as though I myself had
once claimed it as my talisman of power and held
the destiny of the world in my hands. He also
described feeling as though he was under a hypnotic spell

(01:27:24):
when he was in the presence of the spear. So
years later, when the Nazis and Hitler rose to power,
one of the first things he did in nineteen thirty
eight was to take over Austria and confiscate the spear.
The Nazis kept it with them, along with a bunch
of other holy relics, all through their campaign, and then

(01:27:47):
toward the end of World War Two, they hid it
along with the other relics in a vault under Nuremberg
Castle because they were afraid they would get invaded. Finally,
in April nineteen forty five, the Allys Allies invaded and
the spear came into the Allies possession, and strangely, less
than two hours after the spear was taken from Hitler's stash,

(01:28:11):
Hitler killed himself and then the Spear of Destiny was
then commandeered by the US. It just so happened that
the person, the military person that they sent in to
examine the items, was actually an antiquities person. He had

(01:28:32):
studied antiquities and had a very maybe I'm not a doctorate,
but something close to that regarding different kinds of art
and antiquities.

Speaker 5 (01:28:43):
Was his name, Doctor Jones. Jones, doctor Jones. Once again.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
He went on to make five really shitty movies. But okay,
his name.

Speaker 10 (01:28:57):
Was Tom Horn and he was actually German that he
had before all of World War two started, he had
left and moved to the United States. So now he
was working with the Allies and they delivered the Spear
of Destiny to General George S. Patten, who legend says,
as a Catholic and a military hero, had his own

(01:29:22):
interest in acquiring the Holy Lance. He was really as
the Nazis during World War Two were trying to, you know,
gain all these powerful relics. General Patten was also very
interested in the whereabouts of all these relics, kind of
for the same reason, but also as a Catholic. So
once he became in possession of the spear, it was

(01:29:45):
documented and a historical analysis was conducted, and it was
determined to be the spear of Destiny. And after, you know,
they took a bunch of pictures and made a bunch
of files about it, the US gave the spear back
to the Vienna Museum. However, there are rumors that Patten

(01:30:07):
and the US had an exact duplicate made of you know,
the materials of the time. That's what is left in
the Vienna Museum. And in two thousand and three, the
Holy Lance in the Vienna Museum underwent a battery of
tests for authenticity and it was determined to date to
the eighth century AD, not the first century, and it

(01:30:31):
was also not of the fashion of a first century spearhead.
But there is a nail that was driven into the
spear to kind of hold the spearhead together, and that
was done at the time of Constantinople, when he had
sent his mother Helena around the Middle East trying to

(01:30:53):
regain all of the relics of the Passion, and she
apparently obtained a nail from the crew FIXI, and that
is the nail that was driven into this eighth century spearhead,
and the nail itself tested as a first century nail,
so that could truly be an actual relic of the

(01:31:17):
passion the nail, but the spearhead itself probably isn't. And
while I was researching this, I found it really interesting
that Charlemagne, the guy who won the forty seven battles
and slept with the spear, he was actually German, a
German who became the French emperor. And then.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Why did that happen?

Speaker 8 (01:31:44):
His name was yes, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:31:50):
And also Odin, the Norse god who was the like
the the ruling god of Norse mythology, also had a
spear that was imbued with mystical powers that helped him
win battles. He had to know how Hitler was so

(01:32:12):
interested in returning things to the old ways of the gods.
I just thought it was really interesting that that that paralleled,
that Odin's spear paralleled with this spear of destiny.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
So, okay, I have two questions. First of all, if
I don't know if this is the right word. But
the dichotomy of this is that you were talking about
Jesus was someone who you know, was a person of peace.
He was all love, kind and everything that they get
his spear and they win forty seven battles, you know
what I mean. Someone had to die in those battles,
you know, unfortunately they were on the wrong side. The

(01:32:50):
other thing, too, is when you were talking about Constantine.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
Well, what was your question? Was your question?

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
No, here's not a question. A point funtrat the when
Constantine took over you know, the constant took over Rome.
The reason he took over Rome was that he won
a battle at a place. It looks when you read it, it
looks like the mini Van Bridge, but it was like
a battle outside of Rome. And the night before this

(01:33:16):
big and was over. You know, his army was about
one half the size of this supposing person's army. But
he saw a cross in the sky. I mean, once again,
if you read it, it could be a UFO, but
he saw across. And they used to have sages go
along with the army, and these are people who interpret

(01:33:37):
dreams and stuff like that, and he said, well that's
a that's a message from you know, from God to
you that everyone should paint a crucifix on their shield
and you'll win the battle. And he did, and that
convinced him enough to basically eventually make Christianity the official
religion of Rome. So I mean, if you look back

(01:34:00):
at it with the with the religious aspect out of it,
the reason that Christianity is the official well and still
with us today could be from a UFO sighting, you know.
I mean, that's how these things kind of interact in
a way, you know, I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:34:16):
May I make a big historical correction. Jesus Constantine took
over Constantinople, which it later became the name of it.

Speaker 9 (01:34:30):
Yes, go ahead, right there A song.

Speaker 6 (01:34:40):
Was in the west ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Yes we know that. Yes, right, I'm not sure you
write directs. But two hours U, club, what are you saying, club?

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
Well, wasn't there a song about cons.

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
Is stanbull its content the record? Right?

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
It was? It was a I forget the name of it.
But before he took it over, it was the capital
of the East.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
And yeah, right, okay, that said they named it after.

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
Him, right, I'm sorry to be.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
Right, all right, don't be sorry. We want accuracy here.
We want the facts.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
L does not want no hang on a sleep here
else minding his own business. Happened?

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Brandy? Please, Brandy will straightens.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Thinking about the spear and the shaft and that he
got the shaft and the story.

Speaker 6 (01:35:45):
I still want to talk about the sausage party.

Speaker 10 (01:35:48):
Wow, there are so many theories to this and so
many so little historical accuracy to this. There were reports
from pilgrims who were like, whose job what it was
during the Middle Ages to go around and document things?

(01:36:08):
And that's where they're getting a lot of these, you know,
reports from. So it's really hard to say what's actually
legend and what's actually truth there. There may not be
a real sphere of destiny at all. It might just
be an allegory for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
For already clapping.

Speaker 9 (01:36:35):
Now, what about when they were in battle, you know,
and all these different until the hont and all if
he stabbed you with that, I mean, it sounds to
me like you'd become like superhuman, right, Yeah, So what
happened all the people he stabbed with this?

Speaker 10 (01:36:54):
You know, research that everything I read it never said
that the sphere was actually used, it was carried in
the battle.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Yeah, right, just shown it like Italian about or something.

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
All right, why would you take a spear battle and
not use it?

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
Well, it's a special spear because you knew what you knew.
It had a lot of power to it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:13):
And it was the sphere of influence.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
Well I done?

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
Wow? I'll take Can I tell you something that'd be
a great movie taking the spear to a gunfight? That'd
be a great movie, you know what I mean. It
really would be if someone founded these days and get
the super powers and stuff like that. You know, I mean,
way better than those stupid uh Indiana Jones. Come on, Indiana,
come on, come on.

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
Best best movie made in that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Terrible movies And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 5 (01:37:48):
Raiders of the Lost doc was the best after that
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
But what's the one where they go for the act
of the Confident in Egypt? Okay, all right? Number one,
it's nineteen thirty three. The Germans were not in Egypt
in nineteen thirty three. Number one, Number two, number two.
If you watch the movie, nothing that the heroes do
have any impact on the movie. They find the Covenant,

(01:38:14):
it goes back and forth, they put it in the
sub they bring it to a cave, they open it up,
and all the Nazis get killed. Nothing that the heroes
have in them doing that movie affects the outcome.

Speaker 7 (01:38:25):
They just the story is in the telling.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
Oh geez, that's what that's what they say with shitty movies,
which a yeah, they would.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
They would have pro created and made more Nazis.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
I understand that. Well, then why is Harrison Ford running
around in this movie? What's the point? You could have
just stayed with the Nazis. They're the ones they find it,
they opened up, they killed themselves. Why have why you know?
What's what's what's the point of him being in there?
No effect on the plot. Why don't you just say
it's a crummy Steven Spielberg movie, like ninety percent of

(01:38:59):
his movies. Okay, that's a better that's a better explanation.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
I mean Indiana Jones and the girlfriend there in the
poll or whatever she was, what's her.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
Name, Karen Allen?

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
They had the the the the big, the big piece
of jewelry that would that's saying, it's a different movie,
that big thing that had to be put on this head.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
Right time. So they help in the in the well
of souls.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
See, why do you have to jump through all these
hoops to to say that, well, he.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
Was instrumental in getting that that piece that she had.

Speaker 6 (01:39:44):
Okay, that was and then the.

Speaker 5 (01:39:45):
Big battle was ended up in the fireplace and the
the Nazi spy there excellent, excellent character melted away.

Speaker 7 (01:39:55):
Guys, if you didn't have all the that movie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
But you have good, all right, make another movie. Make
a movie that makes some freaking sense.

Speaker 6 (01:40:07):
How's that?

Speaker 7 (01:40:08):
I like seeing Nazis be.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Well, who doesn't. You're missing the point there, Carroll.

Speaker 7 (01:40:15):
Not real Nazis.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
There were just actors in him. Go ahead, Brandy plays.
Brandy's raising her hand, Go ahead, Brandy, please, Brandy, good.

Speaker 8 (01:40:28):
Like one one. You and I know where the of
the Covenant is really buried?

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Where under? And I was gonna say the gas tank? Yeah, yep,
Brandy raised her hand.

Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
Why blame that Whitey's in it?

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
Blame that on him.

Speaker 8 (01:40:52):
To Jimmy Hoffa, don't worry, it's not in Everett.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Yeah, I want to go there. Brandy is raising her hand. Please,
Brandy put the cherry on top here?

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
Please?

Speaker 10 (01:41:03):
Yeah? I think that you know the point was to
tell to tell you about how these objects of power
can possess people. People that are educated, you know, professors
that are of high moral regard. You know, even they
can get swayed by the power of these objects, you know,

(01:41:26):
kind of lose their mind over them, and until that
it turns around and they realize the power of it,
and there's you know, at the end, they're so glad
they're one of the good guys. I think that's why
we had to go through two hours of that movie.

Speaker 6 (01:41:42):
Okay, all right, well that's good as any I guess say.

Speaker 8 (01:41:49):
I'm pretty impressed that you did the research from the
beginning to the end. Brandy, well done.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
All right, that's Brandy. All right, thank you, Brandy. Switch,
it's that time again?

Speaker 10 (01:42:05):
Breakfast?

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Yes, but is it already?

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Yeskast right, Oh yeah, what you have for breakfast?

Speaker 6 (01:42:10):
Switching?

Speaker 7 (01:42:11):
I went ten miles east to lee Tar the Country
Corner Cafe. Yes, I had a Western omelet with ash browns,
coffee and water, and I was in heaven.

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (01:42:26):
I want to know why you went east for a
western omelet.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
There there's a line from a country song. All right,
went western east for a western.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
Omlord where the western are? Okay, thank god, Mac and
I have to go west together. We have to go
west together to get anything and anything because you is
that we go west when we if you go east
going in the ocean. Oh, that's show. Okay, that's a
big end. Wow, okay, switch, thank you for the train

(01:43:00):
at the end. That means that the show is coming
to its end. Let's thank everybody. Brandy, Let's thank you
fir Ust once again, thanks to the Kringle once again. Appreciate.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
We're gonna have to send you some what clam chowder
or something fried clams.

Speaker 10 (01:43:16):
Just hanging out with you guys, I mean, wow, Okay,
that's so sweet, is it?

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
And you're gonna send you clam chowder?

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Anyway, we'll be will arrived at about seven days later.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
That'll be great. Yeah, an hundred degree weather right anyway,
Thank you Brandy. We appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
I'm also X, thank you X.

Speaker 8 (01:43:41):
Thank you. Thank you for having.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Me picking up the fifth window. We appreciate it. And
you know, if you want to go into that Diape spot,
I know it's in Woobury now we've already you may
run into club while you're there.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
You never know.

Speaker 8 (01:43:59):
Three years ago it lasted.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
No, no, no, it was there for a long time.
The other one wants to be the truth based, the
facts based guy. It was there for about three or
four months. They saw town counselors, they saw cops going
in and out of there. That's what happened there. X.

Speaker 8 (01:44:21):
Okay, that was that was three or four years ago.

Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
Okay, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:44:27):
Showed up at the town hall within twenty four hours?

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Okay, well what what took what took you so long?

Speaker 8 (01:44:35):
Legs?

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
Well you said that episode? Okay, all right.

Speaker 8 (01:44:39):
It's owned by a nice family.

Speaker 6 (01:44:43):
How could you see the tail between their legs if
they had a diaper hang on the l It was.

Speaker 8 (01:44:48):
A woman that owned it, and she I don't even
tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
All right, Okay, enough, so listen, why don't we all right?
Thank you, thank you, Brandy, thank you X. Thank you club,
Thank you club, thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:45:02):
It was great to be here. And I'm so glad
that X was here. You know, we always learn a
lot when he appears on the scene. You know what
I want to I want to make an off at
your X. I'll meet you at the border someday and
we'll come down here.

Speaker 8 (01:45:16):
Hear you?

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Okay, he said, meet you with the diaper spar Is
Basically what he said.

Speaker 9 (01:45:21):
You know what, I'm gonna to invite him down to
the spar I'll meet you at the border. We'll get
into our state and then we'll get down to the
diaper bar.

Speaker 6 (01:45:31):
And with the.

Speaker 8 (01:45:39):
Speaking diaper bar.

Speaker 9 (01:45:41):
All right, enough that they play it's got an Irish puppy,
you know music they play at that at that place, wipeout.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
Okay, all right, anyway, thank your club for joining us.

Speaker 9 (01:46:01):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
Of course, you know the club is the guy who
should get the Kringle because he's always with the drunk food, right,
I mean it would be his taste.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
So Kringle is not junk food, not junk food.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
I didn't mean junk food. Sweets I met, they're not
junk we'll arrange that for that for you. I thank
you club. We appreciate it. Thank you Switch. Lead him
down that vodka. That one one was vodka before you
go to sleep. Thank you Switch for joining us. We
appreciate it. Now your hair is in place. It's back
in place to get more glue. Wow, is he okay?

Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
Get the special effects here?

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:46:39):
You lost your arm?

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
Yeah that's oh oh wow, oh god Jesus, it's all
we need. It's so we need Okay, my left arm
for a while. Randy is like falling over. It's so funny.
All right, thank you Switch. We appreciate it. Oh, that's
off Jesus. Okay. Also, Stacy, Tracy, thanks for joining us.

(01:47:10):
What Jimmy just said, I'm just gonna go here, okay?
All oh wow, well look at this. Hey don't oh hey,
are you insane?

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
One one?

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Anyway, you don't need a hip replacement? Why did she
sit over there?

Speaker 6 (01:47:33):
Just over here?

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Anyway? All right, thank you spacey Tracy. We'll have a
good material. No, we'll have material for you next time. Okay,
thank you one one.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
You're welcome. Glad to be here, enjoying all the time
and participating as best I can.

Speaker 4 (01:47:53):
And thank you. Well, hey, glad to be here. How
much Poe did you watch here in the show Man?

Speaker 6 (01:47:59):
No, I don't go on. We need this from my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
All right, So I just want to thank everyone for
joining us, and I should do the plugs real quick.
Homest Our Troops is the military organization that raises money
for our veterans who have been hurt in combat after
nine to eleven. That's the Iraqi War and the Afghan war,
and who knows what war after that. But these are

(01:48:22):
houses that they built for them that are more adapted
to their needs. Is people came home missing the limb
and so on, So now they're building these houses low
account of space, not a lot of stays. You've heard
us talk about them hundreds of times. Homest Our Troops
ninety cents on your charity dollar, a goos right for
our veterans, So please google them see what they're about. Also,

(01:48:44):
we end every show by Saint John McCain. Of course
is not a loser. It's more proof in it every day.
And you should really watch what's going on of veterans.
I know a lot of different stuff is going on now,
a lot of distractions, but there's no thing that is
going to change the fact that they laid off seventy
five thousand veterans employees and now are forcing a lot

(01:49:07):
of our veterans. Tell them to go to these quick
aid places, you know, these kind of places you see
that you go in there like a little emergency rooms
or something like this. They cut the funding for the
helpline for our veterans. People calling in with suicidal thoughts
or PTSD issues. You just get six thousand calls a day.

(01:49:27):
Why in the world you would cut the budget for
that beats me when you're spending money on all these
other things. So I just please everyone just kind of
watch what's going on when have veterans, and hopefully we
can reverse it someday.

Speaker 6 (01:49:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
But anyway, with that, I just want to say thanks
everyone for listening, and a tee Hearson next time. This
is Max for the entire gang saying be safe, be happy,
and and bye bye
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