The Paranormal Peep Show - Spirituality, Conspiracy And Circus with Andy Chaplin - Paranormal UK Radio Network

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network and now
it's time for the Paranormal Peep Show.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Welcome to this month's Paranormal Peep Show. But this time
is a slightly different show. So we have Andy Chaplin
our location doing a presentation to the Essex UFO and
Paranormal Group, which took place on Friday the sixth of
June twenty twenty five titled Spirituality, Conspiracy and Circus And

(01:15):
this is a two hour special, so buckle up and
enjoy the show.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
White folks, thankes for Embarto me. I've had very come
short notice to put this together. And those of you
who are expecting Indigo, she will be doing it full again.
But she wasn't quiffying upfit Stoggar will such as if
you'll do a different one, but Molly and Daddy Chaplin
and just a colored gauge where we're at. How many

(01:47):
people as may be new if anything in terms of
wooo go spoaking okay ses, how many people who have
actually experienced weird and wonderful thing? Everyone brilliant. So I
could have got in like two different directions with this
and there might be another talk on something else. If

(02:07):
if Day's invite to be back. But I could have
gone into kind of politics and government and conspiracy. But
I think for the moment as I was sitting down
and trying to note all of the things, the weirdest
things that happen in my life, that it sacked up
quite a bit and I thought, actually, this is going
to be entire for just on the things that I've experienced,
because there's like one thing, let's another thing, and the

(02:30):
other thing is another thing. And I probably still haven't
documented everything, but I've documented the main things that have
happened in my life. So right, my background spirituality, conspiracy
and circus. We live an album a fogus, so my
background is a un tuning events. So it could brought

(02:52):
a little leablick like this. This is kind of what
we do. If anyone does know any kind of pubs
or other clubs clubs that want psychic diets into their
boyd Knights, then do let me know. We'll get in contact.
That's what we do. Psycho Lights, Clear Evenings of Player Boys.
Dorothy Ghosts is going to come up in the talk. Actually,
Quasi Reading's websholes, thank you. I'm also part of the

(03:15):
paranormal pick show, and apparently David is also on a
paranormal UK radular I used to be used to be.
I speculate it and follow enough. Dave Frodron is still
connected and yeah, I know day he's a good chat
very good shock actually, so I host the paranormal peep
shows on all of the different things. Neil over here

(03:36):
as working and he does the technical side of things.
He records it, uploads it. Apparently it's on things like
speaker and YouTube and podbean, all that kind of thing.
Somebody was talking about going to render sum Foye as
you mentioned, and yeah at the back, Yeah, yeah, So
the can Seller twins Philip Concer and one of money

(03:58):
kin Seller are buried into that side of things as well.
Rendilsham forested a very strange place. I'm not going to
kind of spoil if he does come now the talk,
I'd highly recommend him. I won't kind of spoil at
what he's seeing experience. But it's weird up there. Ah man,
there's right, let's get into my life. I hope you

(04:24):
find this interesting. I'm basically going to run through a
few oddities and anomalies and weird things that have happened
in my life. If you find it difficult to view,
I was just maybe kind of like Bose chairs over there,
you might get a better a view. I will hand
on heart say that I will give you the best

(04:45):
honest information that I possibly can. I'm not a Christian,
and if I was, I would swear on the Bible.
But I'm not, but I would swear on my heart
that everything I'm about to tell you is from the
best of my memory and handle part the God's on
his trees. It's up to you to BELI it or not.
You don't have to can back up your own ways.
So I was born in nineteen seventy seven and one

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of my first experiences some of these I can't get
the exact dates all years, so these are approximates. It
was between about seventy seven and nineteen AC that I
was in a cot late at nights and this is
a regular thing that used to happen. And by the way,
I I've got reservations about using AI, but AI is

(05:30):
extremely useful for doing this kind of thing. Most of
the images here are generated by AI, and within the
within the space of two days, I managed to compile
quite a lot of images. So this is this is
all AI, It's fantastic. I put in some flight from
a COT's perspective of the life shining through a door
show a bell like Teddybear say it ain' bad. So

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there I was in my cot and I used to
remember a deep male voice coming from the direction of
a big brown or white teddy bear, although where the
teddy Bear came from maybe my pair of one it
or something, and it used to say to me, what's
your new? I remember very deep voice, BULLU, what's your low?

(06:15):
I believe that that was possibly not negative spirit, but
highest spirit or maybe die spirit that were trying to
cap with me should see if I was ready to
preneer a cake. It didn't feel scary as an evil
negative didn't have that vibe, but it was very, very odd,
and I remember thinking like this. I just wondered. I

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hid under the hid under the kind of white covers,
and I wanted it to go away. Now, in this world,
I'm sure you're well aware that within the physical world
we have positive people and we have negative bead. We
could go into a pub and you could make some
wonderful people and I regret that, or you could get
into a fight with the hooligan. The same applies to
the spirit world. Okay, you have positive and negative. Some

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people view it all as negative everything's demons. No it's not.
And some people view it all positive everything love, light
and flucking rainbows. No it's not. It's both. As many
kind of levels are there, as above as below. Basically,
so I believe this was spirit guide. I believe this
one was on the positive level. And I think if
I would have communicated and said by name Xandy, I

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think I would have got a dialogue going, and I
probably would have turned if the kid from sixth Sects,
I think it would have gone in that direction. However
I didn't, and it freaked me out. And yeah, it basically.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Away, right, So uh yeah, everyone's seeing Star Wars. Yeah,
you know the Jars.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, I remember asking my mum and I remember seeing
these things that the thing is, it's not quite. It's
really kind of difficult to say. It's not quite in
the physical world. It was more kind of like almost
like a dream state, but not quite I suppose some

(08:09):
people call it. I think it's either beta state or
delta state, where you're kind of in between this world
in the dream world, but you're still lucid enough to
know that it's not an actual dream. If you have
lucid dreams in kind of interaction with weird things, you'll
know the difference between something that is lucid and you're
aware of it consciously is aware of it, and something

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it's just kind of like a dream of the Tagle
on the Journey. When this happened, I had not seen
Star Wars, even though Star Wars come out to seventy seven.
I was too young to see it. But when I
saw Star Wars, I'd got, oh my god, that's what
I saw, the Jars and Star Wars, but without the
glowing eyes. And I specifically didn't this AI. I didn't
put in going eyes because I didn't I remember it

(08:51):
as glowing eyes. So if anyone would have said, oh,
you just watched Star Wars and kind of like jumped it,
while presumably I would have jumped it with glowing eyes,
the yellow eyes and starles, but no. And funny enough,
getting into the worlds of UFOs and aliens and that
kind of thing, it does turn out that some people
do see these troll like beings. They do kind of

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like they're short and they have ground cloaks, they have
brown hoods. They're not necessarily negative, by the way, So
even though they're kind of like troll like and you know,
something might say a little bit ugly and they're they're
not exactly negative. Yeah, it was a very strange one,

(09:32):
and I used, I did used to have a bit
of mic terrors thing going on, like did you remember
kind of like waking up. I can't say I've ever
seen any brays. I can't say that I've seen braise
from memory. Now. I do realize that sometimes memories can
change over time, and I do really realize this. Sometimes
we can kind of misremember things sometimes. However, the key

(09:53):
things with the key principles do embed themselves in your brave,
So you might not remember the smaller detai, but you
do remember kind of like the general kind of thingy
of the what's experienced right the bunker shadow man. This
would have been around about nineteen eighty to eighty seven,

(10:13):
and this would have been I think it would have
been a holiday park actually, so we used to do
a lot of coravan parks and that kind of thing.
You used to kind of wet and sobby usual plight
thing and there was a Second World War bunker. I
can't remember if it was by a coast. It might
have been like a little pill box. Pill boxes actually

(10:34):
dotted around all over the UK being the Second World
all through the Home Guard to use. This one was
very deserted, so this AI isn't quite right. I didn't
see the shadow being outside a bit. I remember kind
of like being with a breek of kids, as you do,
you go to holiday parks, you made friend for fids,
and then basically I remember, I think we're playing a

(10:55):
game hide and seek or chase or something. We didn't
have torches, and it was very dark in the bunker,
but I remember seeing a shadow flicking across. It was
a man's shadow, or like a human shadow flicking across.
I thought it was one of the keys, and I
rushed in there because I had got you and there
was my thing there that freeling out a little bit.
Had a good look round. Whether they were hiding deep

(11:18):
in the bunk, I don't know, but usually they're kind
of like as kids. You both the noise, you say, ha,
I'm not going to do that. No, just a bit quiet,
So yeah, you'll sort of have to kind of like
look at the positive not positive. Look at the logical
and rational explanations for some of these things. It's always
this to that, and keep an objective mind, because you

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can't always kind of attribute these things kind of woo
wood tide things. So I'm gonna I'm going to give
you the instances that I think a little bit on
the spooker side. It's kind of up a few bars
to work out where you want to go with that. Well,
this is an interesting one. The AI isn't quite right.
I actually look like that, I think right in the

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it was like a mandatory basin haircut. You hang to
have that like people's style haircut. So I didn't have
the glasses. But this was a really interesting thing. So
I had a dream when I was in class one.
So this is how eighty two eighty three. I was
in class one and I had a dream that I
was sat in the library and I had been set

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to the library for being naughty, and I thought that
it was kind of unjustified. And I was given some
work to do on a table, so kind of like
was doing kind of like normal classwork at a table
in my dream library corridor. A blonde haired girl with
blue eyes turns up. She's got a bronze jug of
water and she's got a stack of green cups. Now

(12:41):
this isn't quite right, and she had she was holding
the GiB when she was holding the beakers. She came
up to me and she said to me, oh, have
you been naughty? I said no, no, and we had
like some brief kind of conversation. I can't remember if
she sat down anything she did, and then she kind
of wandered off. Two weeks later, I get sent into
the library for being naughty, which I think was unjust

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with some work. And you know that feeling when you
get hairs at the back of your neck going up
like that, Along comes the blonde haired girl with a
bronze jug. This is where you do remember details when
it's love profound enough. And she had a stack of
green cups, and she came up to me as she said,
have you been naughty? So I was getting major, major

(13:25):
dejavo overload. I basically dreamt this two weeks prior, and
now it was happening. It's absolutely bizarre, a quick shove.
Has anyone had a similar experience to that? Yeah? And
would I be white saying? You remember the detail. It
was the specific details. Yeah, this is a really interesting one.
So although the actual event isn't that profound, Like you know,

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a girl with a drug of water turning out, isn't
that profound. The profound thing is the actual fact that
your consciousness has somehow dipped into something, found some information
for something that shouldn't you shouldn't know about that then happens.
And this I think was probably given for me to
make me question reality. So if I'm on a spiritual pathway,

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which I believe I am, I think, well, I always
kind of bought off CV and I'm not really knocking Christianity,
but it's just not for me really. But I think
things like this were to kind of say, Andy, okay,
you've got this this you're at a Church of England school,
but you know what, there might be something else going on,
maybe explore that this's got to be thinking, this got

(14:32):
to be thinking for years, how the hell could this happen?
How the hell could you have a dream that then
comes true. It's there's so many variables, like no, I
can't even like even the things like that, the cump
and the brons jog, things like that. What in the
universe is creating base circumstances, but these exact detail to

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carry out vote you through the window. Yeah, other lasst
stuff on he placed through the window. I used to
think this was absolutely nuts, and I used to think

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that this was a dream. And this was way before
me investigating anything to do with ghosts, UFOs, aliens, space
far that kind of thing. I've always had an interest
in the woo woo. My favorite program throwing up was
Stay but True Later the Lanes with Michael as fantastic
show still on YouTube. Definitely don't say that. When I

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kind of looked back before going into Delby down the
rabbit Hole, I used to put this down to well,
it might just be I might just be imagining it. Now,
this isn't actually quite right because I remember going through
the glass. This is this is something actually that a
lot of kind of abductee experiences and UFO experiences also

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mentioned that sometimes they go through the glass or through walls.
It sounds impossible, and this is why as I was
going up, I film, but this can't be happening. This
can't be true, because it's impossible. You can't, you know,
physically go through that. Surely not. And then I read
up in things and saw videos on oh actually something
who prescribed that? Yeah, so another thing actually within dreams.

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So this is kind of like the differentiation between dreams
and whatever this is. In dreams, there's certain things you
can't do. Apparently in dreams you can't flickle right folks
like switches. Apparently in dreams. Apparently you can't read things
like these papers or magazines or tips. In dreams, you
can't see your nose. And also in dreams you're unaware

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of things like wind and kind of temperature. Here's where
it gets interesting. When this was happening, I could feel
cold because it was outside, and I could feel a
slight breeze on me. Uh, light switch thing is irrelevant
seeing the those things irrelevant. But I remember cold breeze
and kind of by being outside now where my house

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was when I was younger. There's like a factory next door,
which used to be kind of like the factory of
my granddad used to own, and he used to be
a car park. I remember being taken out through the window.
I remember kind of like being dozy, not feeling kind
of like completely fully away, but feeling kind of like
a bit dozy in a big drowsy but still seeing

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what's going on. And I remember kind of like being
in the car park there and being slightly cold, and
there was a breeze. I don't remember hand on harp.
I don't remember seeing any UFOs or space shicks, and
I don't remember seeing any grays. I do remember seeing
the trolls. And this is why I used to ask
my mum, what were the trolls? What were the trolls?

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Why were the trolls there? And of course she used
to say, I was just nothing. Now. My grandmother used
to read the book called The Goat Gruff and that
was my favorite book, and it had trolls under the bridge.
I don't believe it was just imagination pinging off that,
because this was very specific, and also the bid of
goats gruff trolls that completely different from the trolls I saw.

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The best word I could use to describe the kind
of Jara like beings with Star Wars was trolls. That
was my best kind of binnacular with that. And I
had to kind of turn this on anf day. I
will switching. Mhm, I've lost this debility. M yeah. The

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Ladiser got stuck on and then no again, I'll see
cute movie the creepy baldy man. This is a little
bit later, so between the kind of deja boo type

(19:12):
thing and the floging for the window type thing. And
by the way, I don't know what they were doing.
I don't remember anything to do kind of alien trobes
or anything of that. I just don't got any memory
of that. I'm almost scared to get hypnotized and go
back into regression type thing. It will be kind of interesting,
but I don't know. I don't know. It could also
be a bit harroring. Who knows. I do remember this

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has been quite creepy. So there was again it was
kind of like a lucid, half dream, half awake state.
And for this particular one, it wasn't so much for
me being dragged outside, but my consciousness, if you like,
was kind of like outside. And I knew that outside
down kind of where the pathway in the garden was,

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there was a group of tall, kind of very full
guys and I got the real heat GBS. These guys
are bad news. I knew that this was terrifying. This
was terrifying. I just kind of like, you just know
this kind of you know, if you were kind of
like walking down the street and you see like a
bunch of pooblems and it's like a dark night, it's

(20:14):
kind of like, okay, what it's just a bored that
chou with the cleapy boarding and he's a road about
ninety three to ninety five. I don't remember anything else
other than them just showing up and me being freaked
out and I just wanted to get the hell out there.
So that was quite good. I wrote it the boy there,
I hope, missing cat and the psychic Oh, bless him.

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This is my little James Cat. So this is how
I got into the psychic site of things. So it
read about nineteen nineteen ninety two thousand, I look at you,
Jones tap bless him. He went missing and I just
kind of thought I was always into kind of the
spooky woman side of things, but I thought it'd be
quite as I know, it was like a last resort

(20:57):
to come and see a psychic. Actually she was a
very good sight in Epping. I'm not sure if she's
still with us, because she's barely come back in a
over year. Made that then what was interesting is that
although she didn't really pick up on.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Him.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It was a difficult. She thought he might come back.
But what transpired was there was a very is really bizarre.
There was a very similar looking cat just after this
that used to hang around, and you'll not this kind
of like the little beard type of thing going on.
Little beard there, this cap was almost exactly the same,

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black and white with a little beard in the nose thing.
It turns out that it wasn't the same cap. I
believe that the psychic was kind of like tuning into
seeing a similar cat. She thought it might be him,
but it turns out it wasn't him, just a very
kind of like almost identical cat, which was weird in
the cell, But she's she told me things that kind
of other things, not just about the cat, but things

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that came true in my life. I actually can't remember
the specifics, but it was it was things that kind
of what I spoke kind of two thousand and two
thousand and one, two thousand and two, looking back, I
was thinking, oh, that came to, that came that's interesting,
that came to, and that kind of sparked me off
kind of like down the lines of sprutualism. So I

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actually kind of joined two circles. I won in Chasin
and one in Hoddiston, and I joined what's those open
circles most vise whole open samples is, I'm sure. And
that's how I kind of like got into the whole
psychic thing. A cell back in the days of internet
dial up, I actually started off going to kind of
psychic chat wounds just for fun, and that was quite interesting.

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So there's i'll forget the names of them, but you
could go into chat wounds. You had to dial up
and you couldn't actually see the person that you were
kind of talking to. It was it was it was
very very basic. It was just literally kind of text
and chat going on. And somebody actually challenged me, I said,
can you do reading? And I thought, I can't. They're
reading is a tatoot. But weirdly like I've just kind

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of like almost I shut my eyes and just kind
of like just said relax and breathe and see what
we get. And I did that, and I was beginning
to get images and I was beginning to get thieves
coming through. And it turns out the things that I
was getting that people were confirming. So whether it was
names or whether it was kind of by I used
to a bit of remote viewing. Actually used to kind
of buy dip my consciousnesses with their lives and kind

(23:27):
of see what's going on where they're living and all
that kind of thing. And yeah, that's quite interesting. So
that very much got the down the psychic side of things.
This is interesting. So nineteen ninety nine and two thousand

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I was at university and I entered a photography competition
for the Independent magazine. I actually got a commendation. Didn't
in it. I didn't get first or second, but I've
got accommodation. I think I won a camera from it
as well. This is what I took a photo of
and street cleaner, an older guy. It was. It was
a bit naughty actually because it was kind of like
a documentary photography style. And I knew if I just

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go up to him in Connor Bay take a fore
face straight on, you'd probably say no, no, I know,
something like that. So I sleepily come of. I pretended
to take a photo over here and quickly had around
and snapped it. But she probably wasn't see happy about
but never more so as it's so close up there.
As soon I was going around with my camera and

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I saw this street clean sit down. I didn't ask
your permission for Zori's and I don't think he was
too happy about being faith I find if you ask
being called bay cones, that's true, you would have kind
of gone into a different pose. I preferred gluck. And
why the more powerful imaitures of depth? How does this
relate to this? This was street clean and Protestant in Hertfordshire.
He was there almost every I don't know every day,

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or like whenever I do to the mark or ended
up that goes to jobs. He was there doing his
spreed cleaning until one day or when he wasn't when
he wasn't there. Now, of course I won an award
for this. I actually printed this out and I blew
it up and I put it on the wall in
my room. So it's quite pound bit. I'd be still

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quite a good shot. So imagine that kind of finched
out on my wall. This little James cap bless him.
One night in the darkness, sprang off my bed just
before he went missing. He went straight under that image there,
straight under and he was just looking at it, just
looking at it, and I door, you're picking up on

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him dying, aren't here? This little fizzy hat I believe
kicked up on the spirit of that guy. And I
wouldn't mind betting that when this guy and I, you know,
respect to him. I don't know what would pay me,
but I believe that when he passed over to spirit,
if you found out that you have actually entered into
a into a competition on the national newspaper, you might

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want to go and find out what the picture looks like.
I believe his spirit possibly wanted a little bit of
a kind of like a quick check in, because as
I imagine him passing away, blessed here and like a
spirit guide or spirit gay. Oh, by the way, I'm
trying a fantastic life. You have broke on board. This
is your family. Oh, by the way, your pictures are nation.

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So I believe you probably popped in to see the
image of him. And I swear blind that my little
James cat picked up on his image or knowing when
you passed over. That I can't prove it, none of
none of this that I'm saying I can through the
handah heart and giving you the best account that I
possibly gave of my experiences. So I'll say God blessed

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to this fellow here and also to my little busy
cant as well, the grandad off of lights. So when
I got into kind of like the spiritualist type of
thing and the mediumistics are kind of websites and that
kind of thing with kind of the chap things, a
lot of weird things are happening, a lot of strange

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things were happening. This was very much on the positive side. Now.
I know it was between two thousand and two thousand
and five because two thousand was when I started getting
into the sidepigwooy side of things, and two thousand and
five is when one of my other granddads passed over,
So I know which granddads that's going to be, because

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one one of my grandads up until two thousand and
five was still alied, and one of one parf ovo.
So it was around about two thousand and two thousand
and five. I was sat there watching TV and I
basically heard the word in my mind granddad. And at

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the top left hand corner was this little suitable like
the best way I could describe it. I've seen quite
a few of these. If you see kind of arc
well and you see the look sparks plying off up welding.
That's what it looks like. Haws up. How peop been
seeing these the fours? Yeah, it is interesting, isn't it?
So when you view things like most swarted and kind
of like ghost programs on TV, at that kind of

(28:12):
dome thing, it is good to look at the rational
explanations like moths or insects or dust or things like that.
Sometimes it can be that, well, what you see these
things that the naked eye, it kind of alters your
reality and it's it's I didn't get any bad bards.
I actually found this quite a beautiful experience. It was
basically granddad I think by granddad, I call it grandad

(28:35):
chaptering because he's on that side of the family. I
did you basically come and say hello. Uh. The other
thing is actually I once followed a snow blake up
the stairs. I say a snow blake. It basically wasn't
all the blight it was. It was bizarre. I was
kind of walking up the stairs and write some funds
moved out that far away for the Liverpool of all right,

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up into the lud Bazaarre. Not scary at all. Then
I walk ameround. But about two thousand and two to
two thousand and five. This is a nature reserve in hertfordship.
I do a lot of walking at night and it's
it's it's quite therapeutic, do medicative, and I don't really
have a feel kind of even though I'm to the

(29:21):
meed mystic side of things, I don't really have a
feel of ghosts and that kind of being. I kind
of feel like this is our padic. We're alive, We're
allowed to be here. And if you do see spear,
don't be doing much anyway. But the bike walk command
this was kind of like this is the actual spot
where it happened, so you kind of like you walk
around there and then it kind of like bows around

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and then it goes up there. There's a river as
well next to it. I was walking along. It was
kind of it was dark time. And by the way,
these photos of me recreating it, this is not me
actually at the time of it that you're me to
take your photo bloss after it's happened. These are quite
recent actually, but I know the areas it did happen.
So I was walking along, I was on my own.

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I think it was quite cold. It might have been
kind of like autumn time. It was fairly late at night.
I was walking along and in the distance I could
see a figure moving towards me. That what was quite
interesting is that usually if you go for a walk
at night, you'd have a torch, and you'd expect either
if you don't have a talk, maybe the other person

(30:23):
would have a torch. But coming the other way with
a guy that kind of not a million miles away
looking like that, you had kind of like a long
wax jacket on. I remember having a hat, and he
didn't have a torch, and I didn't have a torch.
So if you imagine this, this was actually quite dark,
so you pretty much only got either moonlight or starlight
or very very kind of like coming up to full

(30:44):
pitch black, but still light enough that you could tell
kind of light shapes. So coming towards me with this figure,
and I was thinking, oh my god, am I seeing things?
But then I started thinking this is a spirit? Is
this a ghost? Is a well again, I didn't get
a negative feeling, and I actually walked straight up to
him and he stood stood in front of me, and

(31:05):
I feel, I've got to get a torch out there.
I've got to see what's going on here. I flipped
on the torch and it illuminated him. So he was there.
He appeared real, but he didn't say a word. You
didn't say one word. He just looked at him and smile.
And I think I said, I felt like I should
say something that, oh, thank goodness, you're real. I thought
I seeing a ghost or something, but I didn't actually

(31:27):
say that. I said something a love words of oh hello,
or good evening or or something like that. Member, But
it wasn't you a guy? So was that physical man?
I don't know. You know when you have these kind
of experiences, it feels different. You know, it's like if
you if you talk to me beingish, you see spirit itself,

(31:50):
you can tell the difference between the physical person and
the spirit person. How many people actually seeing the spirit
or ghosts go yeah, and you probably agree that it's
a slightly different feeling. The whole vibe of it is
very different from like a divisital person. So yeah, make
of that what you are paranormal interactions. That's my dad's

(32:13):
bless them spirit. Okay, So he had the disease that
were similar to outside as it wasn't a particularly nice passing.
He didn't believe in any of this kind of thing. Well,
this is I don't think he did, is he kind
of like my mum was trying to see a bee
and it's shrunk back into gyp. Sometimes a duck go
through the really this thing or not, But my house

(32:34):
turned into paranormal central for about the year or though.
My personal belief is when you pass over to spirit,
you get a short wind of opportunity to really do
physical stuff and to kind of interact with your loved
ones down here before the childs the finding door is

(32:56):
open and go through. When when mediums do kind of
connection with spirit years later, they do come and say
quite hello, but it's not quite as kind of physical
as it's kind of to do dimensions and going up dimensions.
So when they pass over, specially for formatic so this
is quite formatic one. Actually it's they're very much interacting
with the world around them. Sometimes you get what's known

(33:18):
as stuck spirits or a stuff based they're not really stuck.
They believe they haven't got an exit quite and they
don't really know what's going on, so they can hang
around a little bit. But generally speaking, most spirits kind
of as actually pass over, my dad had a win
of opportunity to interact, and especially because over the other

(33:41):
side he would be well aware that I was getting
into mediumship and psychic stuff. I think that when you're
into the into the psychic and the spiritual, big spirit, think, oh, okay,
they're not going to be too freaked out, we're going
to start playing with them in a good way, in
a fun way. And he did. He did. So I
would come downstairs and sometimes the kind of like uh,

(34:03):
they used to play chessl up on like aic chest set.
I come down and after having kind of like put
all the chess pieces together and gone upstairs, there'd be
one chess piece that's moved to the side. And this
kept happening. So it wasn't proper spooky stuff. It wasn't
anything that was like really negative, and I didn't feel negative.
It It's just odd stuff. The lights used to flicker

(34:26):
and so okay, you kind of plaid and electronics, So
sometimes that can happen. But I'd be watching TV and
it's usually kind of when I was watching TV, the
lights were start missing. Another thing that used to happen
is like the back in the This is quite a
long time ago with high fires with the CB tray
when you press the button in the flips that used

(34:46):
to go off all the time, all the time, sit
there watching TV and take it down. Books used to
like half pull out of the shells, not in front
of me, but I used to kind of like go
along and see, oh, one book was pulled out. I
don't remember having any particular developments, although there was one
of my books that was pulled out that was about

(35:06):
ghosts that were quite interesting. What else is to happen?
So my dad's deterioration towards the end meant that he
was kind of he kind of regressed a little bit
almost in childhood by the thing. And so he was
surrounded by kind of fluffy toys and that kind of thing.
There was one particular cat toil that he had where
you pressed the poor and he used to go to

(35:29):
do do do do is to play a song? Uh,
And that would only play if you press the poor.
There's no other way of the press that. There's no
device like this to actually get it going. You had
to thresh the poor. That was going on constantly all
the time. Again, I'd be watching TV, and because I
don't just spend one watching TV. But for some reason,

(35:51):
I think maybe because your when your mind is kind
of like engaged with something and you're not thinking about
things do it can kind of interact and kind of
merge with you. So and none of this was negative.
I did have some negative things happened, but nothing to
do with dad. When you're delving into kind of like
the medimistic so you will rush up out some some

(36:13):
things I've had Watchman of dreaming bathers. I remember this
is a really bizarre one. I remember like a very
kind of stereotypical Scottich the way with a tartan kilt
and a sporn and like big ginger hair. And this
is just ridiculous. This is why it's called circus in
the title of this tool, because it just gets crazy

(36:34):
sometimes mental and this this Scottish guy in it kind
of like a Lucidy Green type state, kind of put
his hand out and he was kind of smiling, was
like shape the hand and I felt I really like him, mate,
and he was like shake my hand, and then he
was getting more aggressive. Shit man. And then as I
was kind of like in the spiritual community, I was

(36:54):
in contact with my guys and I and my guide
is Alan, and I said, Alan, can you get me
out of this? And boom, I woke up out of it.
I would say to get any negative dream interactions and
if you work with your guys, ask your guy, can
you get me out of this? And usually nine times
out of saying I will get you out of bit
might be a bit at the start, it might be
like that, but they usually kept you out a bit.

(37:18):
So there is positive and there's negative in the spiritual world.
Tried the can to interact with the positive. This was
probably the most fundamental, profound thing that's ever happened in
my life. And it's so it looks so inconsequential, but

(37:38):
it was. It was just mind blown. So my dad,
he was kind of into everything to do with marines
and water and aquatics and boats and harbors and sailings,
very water oriented. That's where the kind of the chaplain
family surrounding kind of water and things like that. And

(38:00):
we used to have a dolphing fridge magnit. This is
a photoshop reconstruction, but it was pretty much a fridge
magnet like this. I used to come downstairs and I
used to notice in the morning that this fridge makdit
was at a slight angle, and I kind of chuckled
to myself, is that Dad doing that? And I correct
it and then I'll come down the next morning there's

(38:20):
an angle again, I'll correct it. You could logically, and
you do have to look at the logical themes. Rationally,
you could think maybe someone's opened the door and shut
it and maybe it jolded a little bit. So this
kept happening until I go running a lot sometimes and
when I co go running, I come back and I

(38:41):
kind of put a meal in. This would have been
around about ten o'clock eleven o'clock at night. There was
no one kind of like in the downstairs area of
the kitchen area. Well, Mom and my they were asleep upstairs.
There were nowhere downstairs. I was in the kitchen and
I had just directed the dolphin's push back there. I

(39:02):
had just corrected it. Notice it was in the middle
of the fridge. Okay, I've got some rice pudding. I
go up to a mic blave, open the microwave. Swear
on my heart this happened. I felt three tugs on
mynhert one to three are. Then I heard a click

(39:24):
of metal and that had happened.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Now.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Sorry, if there's any skeptics who think, oh, well it
doesn't really exist, it's just your mind, you're just delusional. Well,
it could have just kind of like the lorry might
have gone past them jolted and button nolf. Sorry, that
was about an eight inch movement. It had gone from
there to there, and the click of metal implies that

(39:54):
it would have been taken off and then put back
all so it didn't slow it got clicked on. I
looked around everywhere upstairs, downstairs, someone playing a joke, my brothers,
my mum. And by the way, after the click, I
turned around immediately, I one hundred percent would emosius if
there was a physical person there one percent. And I

(40:16):
always proved the footsteps like that is the most profound
thing that's ever happened in more. Oh yeah, the disphearing bill.
So I go on in quite a lot. This is
Pepper Hill in Hertfordshire. This is where Now this photo

(40:38):
is obviously a reconstruction and the silhouette is a reconstruction.
I only had two bays to put this together, but
this is the best way I can describe it. This
is around about November time and it was cold, it
was frosty, and there was no traffic on the roads whatsoever.
I was running down and it was probably from this

(40:58):
perspective about here that I saw silhouette and it looked
like a girl wearing a backpack, and she was this
isn't quite right. She've hunched and she's running across the
road like that. I thought that was a bit weird
to several reasons. Number one, why would you need to
run because you're not running from any traffic. Number Two,

(41:19):
it was about ten or eleven o'clock at night. It's
a bit of a strange time to be out. Why
she got the backpack and where she running to? Over here,
we've got horse fields and kind of there's nothing there now.
There is a footpath that goes along there, so technically speaking,
she could have been heading towards there. But it was
something like a shuesday. It wasn't even kind of like

(41:42):
if you'd imagine kind of like a weekend, maybe stouts
or guys or something might be out about Dutch to day.
I don't know, So this has kind a bit like
an interpretation of what I think it probably would life
if I was cleansed. Didn't by the time she got across,
so you could go back here. By the time I
kind of got to where she was there, she'd already

(42:03):
gone to there. And so what's actually over here is
a bus stop. Huh. One of her images is mincing,
I think. But anyway, at this bus stop, there was
basically some player was laid down. There was laid down
and kind of by where I was lucky. Basically there

(42:26):
was just nothing but kind of white fields and beyond that,
and it was just it was pitched black as well.
So there was there's a street dance, but it was
picked black. Where was she wanting to? Why was she there?
And by the way, what I'm saying is is by
the time I got there, she disappeared. She's not there,
she's not in the fields, she's not around here. I
couldn't see anyone. So there was just flowers by the

(42:48):
bus stout and she wasn't there waiting. This is one
of the weirdest things that has ever happened in my
life as well. I stilled to my light. So this
they have no idea and no logical exclamation. What the
hell's going on with this? This is an AI in sepretation.
It is not quite right. Because it's actually been like

(43:09):
along with dual carriage Ray. That's why I like it
A six so too drivers cast to eveness this isn't mental.
By the way, I appreciate that this does sound absolutely crackers,
but here we go. I don't know what's going on
with this. So during the period of time, and for
some reason, the crunch period of most of the weird

(43:31):
things happening in my life seemed to be around about
early dude down to mid two thousands. It's all dig
up a little bittory on that. But I used to
go to the Sinny World in Steve Meats with a
group of friends of mine on quite a regular basis,
like Fridays and Saturdays. We used to pile into a
car and we used to drive to the cinema. On

(43:52):
one particular occasion, I remember we came up to a car.
I can't remember what type of car. I do remember
been kind of like fairly kind of compact. I don't
remember the exact color of it, and it was doing
really slowly and it was very very odd and we
needed to go and see the film quite quickly. So

(44:12):
I thought this a hurry up, sir. I wasn't driving
I was on the weird passages side and I said
to our driver, I said, might as well overtake this
one because it's going too slowly. We overtook it. And
as this was around about this kind of light. Actually
it was summertime, well probably about about seven to eight o'clock.

(44:33):
Wasn't quite full daylight, definitely wasn't dark, so it was
about this kind of light. We drove past, looked in
and there's multiple people that saw this, and there was
no driver and no passages. And we're not talking a
midget or a dwarf or a little old lady like this.
There was nothing. And it was just like the person

(44:56):
in front in the passage and passage you see making
did you say that? And I said yeah, and he
said there's no old boy thing. I said, oh, no explanation,
no idea. One of the things. One of the main
things when I pass over to spirit and if I
me by guys or angels, et cetera, one of the
things I'm going to be asking there, and it's what's

(45:17):
that whatebra? Yeah, what's that about?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
We do have driverless cars now, Elon and Tesla all
all that kind of thing are doing it.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
But this is two thousand and seven now. Even if
a company was doing prototypes or driverless cars, why and
enough would they be doing it on a public road
in a in a kind of environment like a like
a warehouse or kind of like a private area for testing.
Absolutely fine. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon or you know,
other companies were working on driverless cars, you know, way back,

(45:53):
maybe they were working in that era. However, taking it
onto a public road, I'm not sure that's a lee
or cross star. I have no explanation for this whatsoever
I can, and I'm prepared to aim coin to do
on a polyglar. So if anyone's skeptics you're making it up,
I've happy leader a polyglar abat. I did get this

(46:15):
quite right. I put in something like a couple laughing
in a cafe. But anyway, I had two incidents of this,
and there was kind of like strange things that were
going along. Because the thing is, when you when you
delve into the woo woo, it's not just the spirit
and the ghosts and the aliens and the Eurofos, reality

(46:38):
itself can shift, which is where I think the driverless
car thing was all about. I think this was I
don't know it. I don't know who was changing reality,
whether it was my own projection of reality, whether the
car was a hologram, whether it was some kind of
Ailien technology kind of being it into it. I did know,
I do not know, but this was an odd one.

(46:58):
So so the first time this happened, I was in
kind of some kind of social club, sports type club.
This isn't the actual building, but it represents a similar
type thing. Sound about two thousand and four. This is
how I know the boxing of time. I got into
doing psychic fairs, so I went from the spirituous community
into kind of like doing psychic faaress and I eventually

(47:22):
kind of moved out doing the psychic bears into kind
of organizing the psycho pears, which is kind of what
I do now. But in this particular one, which I
think might have been around about vawn Wood area, Whitmansworth area,
I had such a bizarre thing. So I was sat
in a similar kind of situation to this. It would
have been me doing readings that it would be somebody

(47:42):
having being read. I love sitting there. I was kind
of like saying different things, and I noticed there was
a group of women to the side and having narrating
what I was saying, and they were kind of like, oh, yeah,
you're talking about this now, he's mentioning that. Now I
always talking about New York. Yeah, I know it is
really pleasant or really can't ticking up my go And

(48:04):
I thought I thought they were just taking the pee,
and it was just it was just such a bizarre thing.
Why would they need to make my life. I had
to be professional, so I didn't say anything. I finished
the reading, blocked them out, and I was just kind
of like, carry on working, working. Here's the bizarre bit.
So you could put it down to just some people

(48:26):
being a bit of a dick and just kind of
like taking the pee. But I went up to them
and I actually, because I'm not trying to do this,
I actually went up to the challenge him. I said, Scooby,
would you mind shifting position because I'm trying to do
readings here and you've been going through every single thing
that I'm saying and just kind of like I'm taking
the beat. This is where it gets weird. They looked
a baby, but they had no idea what I was

(48:47):
talking about. Now you would see if I caught somebody
out that either look avic, sheepish and a bit of Shanes,
or they become by gigli or kind of saying or
something like you know, go excree yourselves or stuff like that.
But they just they genuinely had I don't know what's
talking about, and they were talking to me in a
very normal kind of like passive kind of like voice

(49:11):
and now started questioning, like I do that's right? Weird, weird.
I don't know if something was screwing with my perception
of reality. Now, if I was in a psychiatric office
and I sat down a psychiatric that would probably say
you've got schizophrenia or multiple personality disorder or some kind

(49:32):
of sparchaatric condition. The only thing with that is that
these instances only happened twice. So presumably somebody with like
an actual mental condition would have one regular ongoing basis,
but this only happened twice. And and also those people
doing a psychiclastic episode is usually that unaware that they're

(49:53):
in a psychlostic episode. I was questioning this, I was thinking,
is this room's kind of like? So I'll work out
what was real with this and the other try this
happened was in Brighton. It was in a cafe. Is
so bizarre. That might have been a couple of years later,
I'm not sure. I was with a French girl that
visited o Betwe England, who were walking around Wrighting, and
we sat in a cafe there and I was eating food,

(50:16):
she was eating food, and there was basically a couple
sitting there narrating everything that I was doing. Oh he's
got they've got that on his play. Oh he's picking
his food now. Oh look look a's way he's talking
and all this kind of thing. And it was And
the weird thing is the way that it was being
said and evated felt exactly the same as in this

(50:38):
citation with the clubhouse kind of thing. It was almost
as if I don't know whatever was happening with in
terms of perception of reality with that was also happening
with that. I don't know. Maybe I was going crazy.
Pean Age, I actually don't care what people think, and
I'd like to get to come to the bottom of this.

(51:00):
Well use its fund calls. So two thousand and two
thousand and seven, now we've all had Useage. So Ford,
you've all got the call censors calling up. We've all
got them, kind of like asking, you know, had you
had an accident? Blah blah blah blah. That's pretty normal, Okay, Well,
what's not quite normal is to get them at two

(51:22):
o'clock in the morning. And I will actually say, although
we've got a call center guy here, most of the
phone calls I was getting the phone that I had
made this really weird, high pitched noise before it was
going to happen, and then the phone was to start ringing,
and I think pick up the phone, and usually there'd

(51:43):
be either nothing there or they'd be like a like
a clicking sound. I'm begging, what the hell is this?
And this was happening again and again and again and again.
Who's heard of the term targeted individual TI? Yeah? I

(52:05):
think I was on some kind of TI list.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
When I was getting into the whole psykick thing, I
was also doing a bit of remote viewing. I think
of what I suspect is if you're kind of communicating
the spirit and doing clear boys for people, I don't think,
let's call them the dark hats, have much for an
interest in you, really other than can you do anything
for them? As soon as you go remote viewing and

(52:30):
start going in places that maybe you shouldn't be going in.
I think you ping up on a radar ufastly, and
I think I might have been pinged on the radar
whose fine call. The reason why that's there is because
one of the phone calls was late at night and
it sounded to me like two drag queens and I'm

(52:53):
going to do the voice It's quite fun. This is
why I called it. Call it kind of like a
spirituality conspiracy in circus. This is the circus bit. The
phone call went something like this, Hi Eddie, how are you?
We read it like a reading from you? And I
was like, oh, really is that? Those two of them
they were going back and forth. They was like, oh,
can you do some reading? We really need a reading,

(53:15):
and I was just like, it's really late. Guys can
can be kind of like this another time. I'm like, oh,
but we really need to read them now, and I
was like, you just call back another time, and then
just I don't know, could it have been people that
have found me yellow pages? But two o'clock in the morning.
Two o'clock in the morning, who finds people for reading
two o'clock in the morning, who's heard of sliping? Anyone

(53:41):
had decided, oh okay, right sliding and you can look
this right up. Sometimes there were some people, and it
seemed to be people of a psychic persuasion. When they
go on the street lamps, the street lamps can turn
off and then you come away from the street lamp
and they turned back on again. Now you could put

(54:02):
this down street forty street lab, look at the national first.
But when it happens again and again and again, and
there's there's one particular street lab near me actually where
I could kind of like almost guarantee this was going
to happen. No, I would test it. I'll go along
and go on, and that's I'm back and it go on.
I think there again and go off and okay. So

(54:25):
street labs are on sensors, right, So when it gets dark,
the street lamp senses that and stiglack goes off, and
then the morning time some comes up, the street lap
goes off again. So what difference would it make had
a human way away from the street land, What difference
would it make you being there or not? Why would
that have any bearing whatsoever on the electronics of that?

(54:47):
But there we are the most the most profound, I
suppose experience with sliding. I did a psychic faring well
in Garden City and as I was driving pass I
counted six street lamps going off above me. I kid
you not, I was driving under it. This is after

(55:08):
doing kind of light readings and this thing. But with
weird thing is why doesn't happen after every reathing? Why
doesn't happen after every side? It's fair, That's what I did.
So drive under one street that goes off as the
big junior spirit that makes sense energy set the second street,
then that goes off a bit weird. Third one, I'm
basically getting freaking out four to one under the outside

(55:29):
for UFO. Fifth one a sick one. This is just
mind blowing, mind blowing. And then from then on beyond
those ones, all the other streets trucks. Are you fine,
I don't know what's going on there? Yeah, this is
part of the two I seen. I would go jogging.

(55:51):
I'd go running and there'd be cars coming towards me,
blushing the headlights at me, and sometimes that they kind
of jobs shafting out the window and you can imagine, okay, yeah,
you know, that's kind of like what down layers do sometimes,
but it has happening again and again. But also when
I was out personally driving in my car, I would

(56:13):
have people tailgasing me and flashing their headlights at me.
And not only that was I would be driving and
people coming towards me would also be flushing the headlights
at me. It got to the point where I was
pulling my car over to the road and checking out
whether you know, is there something wrong with my are
they flushing? In terms of cond of what I've got
a break light out? Have I got an indicator out?

(56:35):
What's going on with the very screened right? Is that
our que for a preak that's near about your sea break?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
So it's interesting. A few people came up to me
during the break and told me about some of their experiences,
and the CI thing is definitely thing. It's seemed to
be my opinion. I think they can. I said for
most people in this world, opinion is that once you
start doing remote viewing type things and you drift off
the way to love and light and into kind of

(57:09):
what's going on different past of the world, that's where
you png up on some kind of radar somewhere along
the line, and that seems to be why that was happening.
I believe maybe it kind of wound down a little
bit kind of two thousand and seven before I did
he really doing much from both viewing, and I wasn't
really going as deep meditation. So I think also when

(57:30):
I was with the spiritualist community and kind of like
doing readings myself online, I was very much going to
quite deep meditation. I was actually visualizing on connecting with
universe and connecting with Kurbit, whether it's higher beings or
whether it's angels, or whether it's kind of eighties on
a high level, that's what I'm kind of trying to do.

(57:53):
And I suspect I might be on someone radar. Well,
I will say, actually, it's so times it's it's really strange.
Sometimes I'll be watching television or I'll be kind of
like at home and I wouldn't I feel as if
there's somebody else in the room. But the weird thing
is that it didn't actually feel like it was like

(58:13):
a spirit. It seemed like the energy was different from
somebody who passed over in spirit. It felt life, there
was somebody alive that promote your projection themselves into the
room to see what I was doing. So that's what
it felt like. I felt very different from sitting down
and doing mediumship and you know, you've got your nan here,
et cetera. A different vibration. It was kind of like, oh,

(58:35):
theo's this, but they don't feel deaf. They feel kind
of like there in an office somewhere spine and what
I'm doing. And this is where we get to. If
it were would this amy s one hundred percent hand
and heart. Not only do these exist, but they do

(58:55):
fly around people's houses. Now you might get some military
experts say, oh, no, they're not allowed to fly around
Sibylian know that they're banned from flying around that. No
they are. They do bube around civilian houses. I've had them. Now.
I will say that I am on a flight path.
I am on the flight path of Sanstead, hither and Gatwick. However,

(59:18):
these fly quite at low altitude, and I have had
experiences where they circled my house. They'd be different types
of helicopters. It used to be either regular civilian helicopters,
sometimes police helicopters, but then these little boys start there
curring up. They're quite specific. They're quite elongated. So there's

(59:41):
got a little gunman. And the big giveaway is this,
you've got the little way diarmouse at the top there.
I've had several situations where they've been circling around the house.
So at the same time as I was getting the
weird phone calls with the strange kind of noises happening
and sometimes usually they just hang up, at that same time,

(01:00:02):
I was occasionally getting helicopters. Now again the rational side
of me, as it was it was late that night
and a bit of a night owl, so on music,
Austern TV or on the computer whatever that's good. In
the morning, the rational side for me thinks that I
was a helicopter. Maybe this COVID the police doll looking
for Berkeley. They're checking out the area, or maybe they're

(01:00:23):
just kind of like sometimes they'll put on thermal and
they'll go over rooftops to see whose house have got
like a high heat signature which could indicate growing meal
on or something. They do do that apparently in winter time.
A big giveaway Mamali Rowers is that a roof has
no smell and it has h So the logical side
of me thinks that, But then it was happening again

(01:00:45):
and again and again, and I'm thinking, well, how many
people going missing late at night in this area do
they need to keep sending out helicopters for for civilian
helicopters apparently like a paramedic helicopter, a police helicopter. I'm
told that cost of running it is something like sixteen
hundred pounds per half hour, one thousand, six hundred pounds

(01:01:07):
per half hour. What the hell are you buzzing around
my house at sixteen hundred pounds on taxpayers expense for what? Well,
this is where we get into the ties. And then
I suspect there is some kind of division, somep best,
some little black military operation that is keeping tabs on

(01:01:31):
people like US patients are I mean, this is where
it goes into play on world have actually bought this
is like if people are watching this from the government
or what your other little department is sending these around
our houses? Back is for you, right, clowns. So what

(01:01:54):
is the purpose of it? I think the purpose of
it is to intimidate people, to stop people from talking,
to shut people down. Well that worked, didn't it bakes?
I think it's to get people to kind of pass
goo a bit crazy. I actually think the incidence is

(01:02:15):
where I've had the narration thing going on. I think
it's to try and drive you nuts. I think it's
it's so you end up thinking, are you crazy? Do
you want to check yourself into the mental instapuet or
something like that. That actually brings me on to something
else that I've not put on here. Actually one of
the weird phone calls I got, so this would again

(01:02:38):
would have been circa two thousand, two thousand and seven,
that sort of era. One of the phone calls I
got was around about the afternoon time.

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
It was a guy who I would say has got
very much mental conditions. Okay, he was genuinely psychotic or
genuinely schizophic. The way he was talking was like this,
I'll give a demonstration. And this isn't to kind of
like denigrate anybody that's got a mental condition. It's not
about that, but I will give you a demonstration of
what he sounded like on the phone. He's like, oh, man,

(01:03:08):
then the government, man, they've got like radar and they're
like trucking, and you do like you've got you've got
to see what's going on? My tracking everyone's and the
way he was talking, like space pattern. What he was
talking about was very much kind of this is where
it gets really weird. It was very much on the
conspiratorial level. But at that point in life number one,

(01:03:30):
I had not put anything out there in the public
that I was into anything to do with conspiracy. But
what I was do was delving a little bit down
the road off the conspiracy. So I was looking at
things like Alex Jones, David Ike, and Jordan Maxwell, et cetera.
I was delving down that road. I was also delving

(01:03:50):
down the road of kind of ets, reptilians, grays, et cetera.
I started off in around about two thousand does everything's
log and light, everything's rainbow, isn't there? Angels and it's
spiritualism and your Nan loves you and all left front
of the thing. And it was quite a rude awakening
and quite disappointing awakening. So I actually realized there's a
bit of a darker side to this as well. So

(01:04:13):
at that time I also got this weird phone call
that was talking about things from a guy who obviously
got mental health editions talking about these that I was
looking into, and I thought how why where did you
get my number? France? How would you know that I'm

(01:04:33):
into this kind of thing? What's what's going on here?
Bit now? Probably aware of one four seventy one he
pressed Beata early calls back after the phone call. I
wasn't brue to him. I'm not rude to people, just so,
I just said, let's you just didn't thank you? Phone
call ended? I did. One four seventy one gets where
it went through psychiatric unit. Because of the first few

(01:04:55):
articles of a sectionalists, Laby has said, I don't suppose
this is a psychiatric in it. Yes, I said, I
think one off one of your patients. Both for me,
she's a barto soul. Where did you get my number?
Why does he call me? Out of all the people,
let's say, let's say where I'm in the phone book,
why did he go from my number to call me?

(01:05:17):
Was it the universe? Was it helping him in some way?
Was it him tuning? I don't know, I don't know.
It's a very strange one. Yeah, helicopters Torry. I'm not
going to ruin Indigo's talk. Obvious she has got a
talk at some point here, So I'm not going to
go into the experiences that she's had, but I may

(01:05:39):
I may drift into shared experiences that both of my
both myself and Indigo were paid. I've known him to
go since probably about two thousand, Big Dean, and we're
friends and we've had some odd things happen together at
the same time. One of them is the bloody alicopters.
So it would have an afternoon I don't know what

(01:06:03):
year it is, probably within the past six years, lose
track really, and I had noticed I think I'd come
back from airsoft. So I do airsoft, which is kind
of like paintball and just up in military stuff. You know.
She exoded with clustered pellets and stuff. Was great, FuG
It's a good swing shop from all the conspiracy and
the spindletral stuff and go. So I come back and

(01:06:23):
I kind of like, I'm I'm packing my stuff for
getting everything out a bit bag to stup. I noticed
one of these buggers flying around outside. I'm thinking, really,
and this was like very very close to the house
and it was very much kind of doing a circle. Now,
Indigo at that point lived about two miles away from me,

(01:06:45):
so I was in one place and she was two
miles away that helicopter and I watched it went from
my house and I could see where it's going. It
was candying towards her house. I'm on WhatsApp or messenger
is we has and our messaging out and saying indigo,
Maybe why helicoptered outside the house as she goes, Yes,

(01:07:06):
this abside my house has been certainly so they know
what we're doing and where we'll be, and they know
that we're connected. But again, why there's different there's different
explanations or theories about what these things are. Number one,
human military, black ops. That's the first explanation. Number two

(01:07:30):
is the way it gets really really weird. Possibly holograms
created by ets to make some think that they're helicopters
when it could just be a little silver or but
we're looking at it as if it's a helicopter, which
could be the same thing as the the narrations of
my life and things like that. Is there entasy or

(01:07:53):
enthasies projecting it into my mind, making you think of
a group of women is talking about me and narrating
my life go up and they have no idea what
I'm talking about. Possibilities. The thing that the flashing headlights
as well. I'm wondering because there's two possibilities with this possibility.
Number one is there's some kind of sad, pathetic military

(01:08:15):
outfit that is employing people basically saying, this person's going
to be on this road at this time, flash your
headlight as though though, which kind of seems implausible.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
But what.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I know, I know spies and police and kind of
like they trail people and they follow people. But really
the other possibility could it be there are some forces
or entities or energies that are for some some bowt
hijacking people's Okay, are there some people who are hijacking

(01:08:52):
people's consciousnesses as they're driving, making them flash the headlights
and then jumping out again, almost like semi possession. So
imagine as you know what, when you're driving, you're in
a different state of mind. Did you know that? So
they've actually tested it. When you're driving, it's like your
regular consciousness switches off and by the time you get

(01:09:13):
to the destination and it's like you don't even remember
the dur you're on auto pilot. What a fantastic frame
of mind for something to jump in and tape over
for a bit and it could even had just been
a momentary. So somebody is driving along, there's an entency
that wats the bush headlights that this person just annoy
them or whatever pathetic reason, and it is pathetic. Jump
into this. This person bibing along, get the flash the

(01:09:35):
head like jump out again. They don't know what's going on.
They're carrying on and the person be flash act is like,
bloody hell's going on. That's an explanation that I'm veering
more towards that as a possibility than an actual government
agency that is employing people. You kind of would have
thought at some point somebody might have spoken up and said, yeah,

(01:09:56):
I'm being paid by the government to go around in
the road people and then kind of flashmised buds of people.
I don't know, unless they kind of end it an NDA,
or unless they're under the penalty of death or something.
Who knows, But I don't know. I'm always looking to
kind of like different different possibilities with this. Yeah, so yeah,

(01:10:17):
here they are. This is actually what I'm what I've
been seeing, and I put ongoing because this is the
far less common. I think the last one that I
saw was with Indigo. They're far less common now, but
certainly kind of the early two thousands that they were
really quite everywhere. Another shared experience with Indigo right between

(01:10:39):
twenty eighteen twenty twenty two. I get a call from
what sounds like possibly an Indian called Center or something
like that. But it wasn't asking me like drawn a
buy colin shawance, or have I have an accident or
anything like that. It basically says are you okay? And
I said, yeah, are you sure? Yeah? Really, m yeah okay?

(01:11:10):
Or telephone shawl fine, not a problem with things. Maybe
got the wrong number. Indigo messages me. She calls me
and something really weird has happened. I got like a
said like an Indian guy asking if I'm okay. I'm
sure okay. Somebody must have known both of our mobile

(01:11:36):
numbers at the same time. Know that we're seleected called
us more or less one after the each other. Myself
and Indigo, we do not go around sharing our mobile
phones with everybody. It is on my leaflet as a
possibility that might have happened. I don't think Indigo shares
her mobile with people. I don't know. It's an odd one.

(01:12:00):
It wasn't even really a message there wasn't selling anything.
It wasn't a scam, it wasn't any can't sure. It
was just are you okay? Are you sure? Really? It's
an odd one. I don't know, I don't know. See
I stuck. It's weird. This is why we've got the
clown horn and why it's called circus because it just

(01:12:20):
goes mentul some times. Right, let's go in a slightly
more spooky direction. It'd been man a ghost hunt two
thousand and four to two thousand and six. I was
invited as a guest medium to go on this one.
I've done a few ghost hunts. It's quite fun and
you wouldn't think a bit. But this is like a

(01:12:41):
very old Elizabethan mansion, Shoda mansion within a massive housing estate.
It's really bizarre. So this looks like there's a nice
country by there. It's not every everywhere at it. It's
like it's just a massive councilor state. They normal residential buildings.
And yeah, So went there and it was kind of
divided into different groups of people and there was like

(01:13:02):
different mediums with different groups of people doing their thing.
And this is where something quite interesting happened. These lights here,
these are all green, or they certainly were during that
period green. The only way to switch them all and
off is a switchboard. There there are white lights, but
they from what we do. If we had a circle

(01:13:23):
here and there's a group of circle of people and
there was I think it's being filmed as well. Actually
have to forget these the video of it. They switched
off all the white lights and there was just these
green lights on, and I said, the CLASSID mediumship thing.
I said, if there's anyone there, could you please let
us now give us a sign. Immediately one bank of

(01:13:46):
green lights went off. Wait, these ones are fine, but
one bait went off. Now putting a rational logical explanation,
perhaped on. Could it be in a fuse that had
gone Not really, you'd expect them all to go if
it was a fuse, And would it have been somebody
that might have switched the lights so first of all

(01:14:08):
we would see it because it wasn't pitched black. There
was green lights. And also I stood there, I was
stood by there, and it certainly wasn't me. And not
only that, I've tried to switch again and the green
lights came back on. So I don't quite know how
how lights could go off if the lights come back
on when you switch them, because it ain't going to

(01:14:28):
be the fuse. Because if it's a fuse, that I
go out and that's it until you've changed the feud.
So there's a bit stranger interesting. Not much else happened
with that one, I will say, Actually there's a I
think there's kind of three floors to this. There's another
level up one thing that was quite interesting. Actually we
had a group of people and I was kind of

(01:14:49):
bleeding the investigation. Now, I personally, when I see kind
of haunted shows and ghost shows, I personally try and
veer away from the negative. So when you get shows,
you know, whether it's kind of most talkid or similar
type shows, what they want is the thrills and the
spills and the scares and the jolts and the odds
demers kind of thing. Actually, I find that a bit boring.

(01:15:13):
It's like, Okay, your negative get over it, you know.
I actually more interested in the history of side of
things and connecting with positive spirit. Actually, that's kind of
like where I'm more interested in going. And within the
little circle that we did upstairs, I actually got people
to sit around and so for I kind of ask
people we did like a protection prayer and the kind

(01:15:34):
of visualization. I asked the people in our group if
there's anyone who would just wants to flow with anything,
or if they get any messages or anything that comes across.
And there's one guy and he's never done this before,
he started channeling. I suppose the a lady connected with
the house and it wasn't Boo gets out to get

(01:15:54):
a cleary, who die and all that kind of thing.
I get bored by that, and I really do this
is very nice laid and she started to talk about
the house and you started to talk about her life
there and come by some of the connections there. Could
it be proven, I don't know, but it was absolutely fascinating.
It was a positive experience. He felt it was a
very positive experience. And I actually find that more interesting

(01:16:15):
than kind of like going around with gadgets and giarz
fogs are kind of like you know, kind of setting
off EMFB. The information or whether the information checks out
perts gold coin more interesting. Henrix Hendrix headless thing goes
on I know the year a bit because it's on YouTube.

(01:16:36):
So the back of these leaplets there's a QR code
for on Facebook and YouTube and blah blah blah. So
if you got on the YouTube channel for Tunion Evets,
you'll see I was a bolding video actually called the Phenomenons.
I think it is by somebody who asked if I
could go along as a guest medium as he filmed it.
And think it was like a Stuben project or something

(01:16:57):
like that. But anyway, yeah, he was filming it and
Henrix and at the film camera. When you view it,
it's got the date of it, so you can see interesting.
This is a hairdress is allegedly quite haunted and there's
no bit younger still got the piercing two levels of it.

(01:17:20):
There's like an old kind of staircase that goes up.
I think the significant the most significant thing that this
most ghost hugs actually not all love happened really is
you can be in bold with the ghost punt and
it could actually have nothing happened the whole time, or
if you're really lucky, it could all kick off and
be like that. All lead things very much kind of
by the mix. I'm suspicious of ghostly shows where things

(01:17:44):
happen every single episode. I could understand from the directions
and a producer point of view that you can't create
a show based on nothing new magic by doing as
shown in twenty four hours. You're locked in a harnted
location and nothing happens. And yeah, that the budget for
it as well. Imagine the cost because all the start
and the higher and edy day, so you've got to

(01:18:05):
have some kind of footage. So this is why I
kind of suspect some ghosty show might slightly be making
some stuff. I don't know, but when I go, I'm
very honest with it. If I get something, I get something.
If I don't, as don't. But this was interesting. We
were in the top section a bit and if you

(01:18:25):
just look like imagine like a sort of corridor type thing,
and there's a group of us, go stunter, as I
suppose you for this. We're in one end and I asked,
if there's any spirit there can knock three times, and
we got it. We got the and you can hear
it of video, and I swear as well. It was
not in our brew. So this was about the length

(01:18:46):
of it. Actually, our group was here, the knocking was
coming over there, and there was nobody over there. It's
only a little thing I mean, you hear knocks and
taps all the time or goanded spooky ghost shows, but
you always wonder is it the cameraman? Is it kind
of somebody playing up? But when it actually happens to you,
it's quite interesting, it's quite fascinating. Effinly. Other than that,

(01:19:08):
not much else did happen. Actually, something that did happen
there was there's like a little beauty selling bit of
the stop, and there's some signs on the table. They
kept falling down and we were kind of trying to
work out was it local traffic vibrating or was it
kind of past walking or kind of and the ghost
of Metigame says, we're actually jumping out and down next

(01:19:29):
to the table trying to get it to topple, and
it didn't topple, but we'd go away again. We'd find
it on this law George Hotel ghost Hunt. I forget
where this is, I forget the town of it. But
that was a ghost hut that we did. Again, not
much happened except one thing, which is quite mind blowing

(01:19:54):
that now I was there when they took that photo.
I don't know what that is. So this is this
is the bar area it's a bit difficult to see
because of the image quality. You've got a human here
who's kind of like leaning on it. This is the bar,
this is the top brief bit. These are the lights,
the drinks that possibly manager or this is where people

(01:20:15):
are actually sad. And I didn't take this photo, but
one of the investigators did. And it's not a case
of double exposure or photo shop because he took it
and immediately showed it to us. He said, oh I
stick with look at that. And this is way before filters.
So the thing is with AI is great and lovely

(01:20:38):
and fun, but these days it's very difficult to see
what's genuine on what's paranormal because there are some thing
as apps. With filters, you can get AI to have
things and generate things and manipulate things. So it's becoming
increasingly difficult to see what's a real UFO photoon? What's
it like a bake one? But this is twenty eleven,

(01:20:59):
this is before things like that. Technology was steel fairly
basic black. I mean it's like a classic classic boust,
isn't it. So this particular George Hotel has got the
gray lady. I always always a gray lady but this
is the Gray Lady actually, and it wasn't there, So

(01:21:20):
it's some people might say, oh, it's a coat that's
flown off or someone's thrown a tissue or something like that.
No it's not, and there are photos without that. So
you've got the bar without that, and then there's a
photo with that, so it's not something this has kind
of flown off right shadow man into the most people

(01:21:42):
have probably had some spooky experiences, but this is quite
This is quite a profound pun for a number of reasons.
Now twenty twenty one, the dark dark era of COVID lockdowns.
I think we might have just been coming out of lockdown,
or we might have had like an hour's h exercise

(01:22:04):
a day, can you remember that? Can remember? I already
held out of the house and it is only twenty
twenty one, twenty So this is what this was on
my hourly exercise walk. I'm sure whether be the four
lockdowns were in placed with certainly this one of my walk.
This is around about the right light level in terms

(01:22:25):
of kind of like how it was, so it was
kind of getting towards aid in time. It was summertime
and I was walking along this pathway. Yeah, so guess
what happens. I'm walking along here. And by the way,
this is photo reconstruction. This is when this happened. I

(01:22:50):
was not recording it, so this is me retracing my step.
And that is a photo of a helicoster that I
cut out and pasted there. This is a reconstruction because
I get some people say, and I was making it
all up. No, this is a regional structure. Okay. So
but this is the route, and this is the area
where it happened. It's near hot system. Okay. So there's

(01:23:11):
a man in front of me in a field and
there's a police helicopter. I wasn't in spooky wooo mode.
I was to go for a nice little walk. Helicopter,
nothing particularly suspicious about that. Maybe they're looking for somebody.
Maybe they's a burglar, maybe there's a missing curtain. Deno's
little helicopter, Okay, buzzing around the field. Okay, still buzzing around,

(01:23:32):
and I'm still going on my little walk here. A
bit irritating, but that's fine, right. The walk that I
go on is probably about five to six miles, hard
to say exactly, but it's a big loop five to
six miles. I go down through some fields, I go
along a river, and then I go back to my house.

(01:23:57):
This helicopter is still following me. This is probably about
maybe a mile away from this field here, possibly bloody
things still following me, getting it to reconstruction.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
And it's buzzy and sick, really still going, still going.
This is the mock, still going, still there, buzzing, no air.
This is where things get really interesting. I sit down.
This is the perspective of a park bench. I sit down.

(01:24:29):
That thing is sat there looking at baby, looking at me,
police helicopter looking at me. Now I'm not thinking spooky wookie.
I'm not thinking aliens, conspiracy and government agents. I'm thinking
there's going to be a ground unit turning up with
dogs in a minute looking for somebody, probably me, because
they're probably corning in ground when it's saying yep, we've

(01:24:51):
got him, can he move in? And I was literally
expecting police to turn up and either do an arrest
or ask me a question or something like that. Know
whether they thought I was a I don't know, a
burglar or someone up to mischief or missing person I
don't know. And I sat there and that thing was
there for about ten minutes. Ten minutes I was I

(01:25:16):
just wanted a meditation. This is my regular meditation spot,
and I'm quite I quite like this little meditation spot.
And that's kind of like it's You've got a nice
little lake there, little birdhouse opened by Bilodi Glaus. So
this is a really nice view. And there's this thing
just hovering there watching me, looking at me. Why. I'm thinking,

(01:25:40):
where's the ground food? I'm thinking, well, where's the dogs?
I'm thinking always the part wardens nothing. Then it goes, okay,
look to the side of me. I can only describe it.
That's not it, by the way, that's just sign. But

(01:26:01):
where I was sack there seemed to be some kind
of objects or animal or big thing that was beige
but kind of like page. It's head out and then
went back again. It was just very quick, I thought, sweetly,
looking for a Golden Retriever fox deer. So I got

(01:26:21):
up and ahead. The bloody hell was that I want?
I wanted it to be like a dog or a
dog walker or a deer or something like that. It
was just it was a bigger edge of phage. I
couldn't describe the features, but it was big and it
was beige, and he just thought, this aping's getting a
bit freakh, you know, Okay, So I got up carried

(01:26:46):
on hawkings getting a bit darker. Now walking along way
is the helicopters gone. That's gone. So we get to
this bit here and this, by the way, is where
I saw the girl running across the road. That's the
same bus stop, and then on the other side there's
another bus stop. She goes from there there. So I'm
walking along here. Notice you've got a river here, you've

(01:27:08):
got a road here, and you've got horse fields here.
And I think I think this might have been when
lockdown was in place, that he only had the hour
to go for exercises. And I don't know about you,
but during during lockdown there's not a lot for people
to do. I smell of weed everywhereis that is like
any way, you know, both weed and you were basically

(01:27:29):
kind of like bored youths or something. I kind of
like you'd smell it and loong and they've got they're
turning around different places. So that becomes relevant because I
came up to here and there's like a weird type thing.
This This is slightly lighter than how it was just
to show you, but it was. It was very much

(01:27:51):
coming up to it gone from twilight to quite dark.
It was very dark. In fact, from this perspective here
I could see very clearly a man at all so
and legs and it was completely black. It was black.
I wasn't thinking spooky wookie ghosts and spirits. I was thinking.

(01:28:12):
I was expecting the spell of weed, and I was
expecting speed with dog walker or somebody kind of having
a croppy and doing it. That's what I was expecting.
I carried on walking and this shadow, I kid, you
not melted into the fence and disappeared and there's nothing there.

(01:28:33):
There was nothing there. So yeah, basically for if he
hopped the fence, he would have sploshed into the water.
And really that if he'd done into kind of the
bushes or the horse field there, I would I would
have seen him because there was enough light to see that.
But no, he kind of disappeared into the fence. Wow.

(01:28:56):
Very strange, And I mean I know a lot of
people see the shadow figures quite a lot, but it
was it was so prominent and it wasn't my eyes
playing tricks, and it wasn't kind of like a bush
or a tree or something like that, because it was
moving as i'll get it towards him. He was kind
of like walking and then he basically disabeared into the
fence and I thought, that's strange. So I carry on

(01:29:19):
walking and I get round to a puff. This is
where you quite funny the wall of pub. There was
kind of like a kind of like flower based type
thing and somebody plugged back there a little alien so
on its own. The helicopter, the beige thing, the shabown

(01:29:43):
man and the alien on their own, and they don't
seem particularly kind of like profound, but the fact that
it was a cluster together and almost like this was
the token of lads. Yeah, I don't know, I was
screwing with you or kind of if it is, it's
he's maybe kind of like this, I mean, is so
out of place. There's like a little country pub. It's

(01:30:05):
like people just blank leave stuff like that around and
something you just let this ruin was there. I've got
the shop bunny. I wasn't. I wasn't particularly alarmed as such,
it which it got my it's got my spiky senses
up this particular night. I think if looking for these
things both the thing ah, so who would? Who would?

(01:30:29):
Got some footage sent to me by This is the
Croc House in Parley. Some spooky f A T shirts
will go back and do it again? There is it?
There is? Yeah, watch that. That happens quite a lot.

(01:30:50):
Apparently at this pub. The bars office said, pips will
fly off again. This is a Sittles the Crowning. Think
of that one. So mm boom boom. Interesting And by

(01:31:12):
the way, people do have similar footage and they're happy
for them to be shared. I do, let me know
a lot to see them. And this is this is
fails man. Anyone knows what words are. I've heard of

(01:31:34):
words these things there? How you these are all lots
of things. I don't know how to pause it, but yeah, fascinating.
That's it, Thanks folks. That good. So I think we're

(01:31:58):
going to order it after question and answers. So if
anyone wants to stick hand but answer, you could do.

Speaker 8 (01:32:11):
Can I ask about the cars and the flashing lights.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Carbon bucking lights, yeaph the headlights? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:32:19):
Could it be also that?

Speaker 10 (01:32:21):
Plus there is an energy within you that creates that
kind of effect that just automatically creates the light in
itself doesn't have to be a human hand doing that. Yeah,
maybe there is an energy in you that is if
you like picked up or or scanned and reflected that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
Yeah, I'm open to all suggestions, so I'm not going
to prove through any suggestions literally kind of like I
really do, always try and look for the logical and
the rational stakes. I'm not somebody to try it automatically
jump to a woooo conclusion, but sometimes it's hard not
to do. I've never I've never kind of seen it
that way. But I suppose you could argue that with

(01:33:02):
the sliding thing and the screen laps, if somebody is
affecting spreed lags going on and off, that's quite valid.
That maybe could be affecting car head bites as well.
How that's happening, I don't know. And why it's only
happening with some cars and some screen labs and not others,
I don't know. Maybe it's a vibrational thing, Maybe it's

(01:33:23):
an energy thing.

Speaker 8 (01:33:24):
I could be a corresponding thing with the driver that
perhaps the drivers or driver has a similar kind of
interest to similar similar force, so that it's it's just
energy if you like recognizing it yeah, yeah, could be,
could be.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
I think I think with these things, with the subjects
of woo woo, whether it's own conspiracies or aliens or
the spirit or whatever it is, will never solidly know
concrete what what any of it is really, even if
we pass over to all the spirit who know you know,
there's no Galanxes that they'll know ether there's there's no

(01:34:02):
galantes that are consciousness will know. We might or we
might not. We don't know, uh quite about the black
Kelly Cotters epically hear your video there you sly shape
the aircraft. Tiko is the apasture attacker he was. Yeah, right,
Well I've seen like kellicopter where there was civilian five

(01:34:24):
years by the military. It's just plain no serial number
now identification barge which is illegal. Yeah, but from attack
helicopter to be flying around your house and I believe it. Yeah, yeah,
I saw yeah, yeah, uh, that's very specific. Yeah, that
a lot with people that witnessed the UFO near a
crash Star. It's not just any helicopter to military only

(01:34:48):
the ain't on a swine. Yeah. I'm not going to
spoil indigoes tool because she's got a lot of information
on this as well. But I will say that the
UFO side things is quite common. I'll leave it at that.
There's a say one thing with the flashing ride and no, no,

(01:35:14):
he's all there's a savining because that's another that's another
possibility that I thought. Could it be police car splashing
the lights to pull you over? No, because also as well,
are they at some point if you don't pull over,
they put the blues and seas on as well. You know,
I need vinta, will flash you toward me? Possible, that's
a possibility, but it was. It was very much. This

(01:35:35):
was mostly at night, and this was kind of by everywhere,
and it was in clusters. The thing is, we're looking
at the woo woo. It's about the clusters. So when
you have one anomally anomalous thing happening just out of
the blue, you can rationally put that down to just
that was a bit weird. When you get it again
and again, like the helicopters at two am, again and

(01:35:56):
again and again, the phone calls again and again. The
flushing of the headlights was again and again and again.
I was just thinking weird. I was putting over the
car and thinking there's really something wrong with play lights something.
There's nothing wrong with the car. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
In the early two thousands, me and Mark here went
down to wood ship, isn't it And we came to
a crop circle when they're in the field and there
was a woman there with a count wudn't she and
this black headicopter.

Speaker 12 (01:36:23):
Kept coming down really low, Yeah, buzzing us end this circle.
She kept photographing, really antagonizing. His head lit a bit
wiring bad really because I have known markings on it.
It was beaten black. Yeah, she uploaded pictures on the interme.
From what we heard a few years later she a
cancer die if we don't know if that's a young woman,

(01:36:45):
but we don't know whether she was now cancer or not.
We found her later that she could die, but she
was antagonizing these she's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
The other thing was so I thought, oh, we just
go you would go away. As soon how the thought
was going, it came back. You know, that is likely one.
I've had one specific instance, and I swear this, this
is exactly how it happened. I had the helicopter. They
don't usually do this well. I had a helicopter shine

(01:37:17):
its searchlight in the window of my house, And this
happened not too long ago. It might been a couple
of years ago, but it literally First of all, you
hear it buzzy, and you get like a like a
like a chill feeling, just like, oh God, and you
can feel it getting closer, and I opened the wind.
I don't particularly I don't particularly like them, but I'm

(01:37:38):
not really scared of them. So I opened the window
to see what the hell's going on, and this thing
shine its searchlights straight in the window, and I would
shut the windows, and then eventually it kind of like
buzzed around a little bit then went up again.

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Yeah, with your narrative, that's happened to me, but it
happened to me a specific time in my life where
I was beginning to sort of find myself and be
more comfortable in myself right, and it sort of worked
on me that it sort of shut that down.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Interested.

Speaker 7 (01:38:11):
So I don't know whether you were having anything in
particular when that had to you, but I do remember
thinking that everything seemed to be on the up for me.
And then Robert I've known each other since Spirit School
to girl, he'd forgotten that there's one instance from you
in a pub one evening and there was a couple
of fellas sitting near us, and everything we were saying,

(01:38:33):
they were talking between each other or only as he saying, exactly,
they're talking about the film exactly that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
They went to see sanso fid. They're talking about this, haven't.

Speaker 7 (01:38:42):
And I'm thinking, what's going on and it really freaked me.
At the same time we were followed but all the
way from Dagenham, all the way to from friends we've
got in elm Stirs actually to their roads, all the
way by a white band. So that again it was
at time when I think I was becoming more aware
of No not I was just saying in myself, I

(01:39:05):
was becoming more comfortable in myself and this is really unervy.
And I certainly found these few instances you suddenly don't
want to go at me more, or you don't want
to be it's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
The thing about it, if I got yourself, but is
with all of these events, in these scenes that we're
talking about here, it does seem to me that people
with a particular sixth sense or resonating or by burns
are not different frequents and being able to perceive these
frequencies and as he sounded a bit conspiratorial. But the

(01:39:40):
thing is is that or in those place well you know,
I mean I just think that some people are because
whether he is here now for the light, you bet
your bottom door, and there's other people doing could acts
up under a ton of So therefore that's how we
do it on the radar. Because they had their circles

(01:40:01):
say since I okay, we're gotting to go and that
end is okay, there are the why and then we'll
pick it up. Because they had not only will they
have physical context, but there they had them visible context.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Yeah, they're what a name? Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:40:13):
Also the fact that they're remote, youing, and I think
that people like us here across all the planet or
they're all the land masses. It was a threat to
the say, this point of it was that put as
humanity is owned as a sawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
And yeah, so this is where this is. This is
why this this talk that I was going to do
is going to be a little bit of my my
life and things going on, and the conspiratorial side thing
didn't became quickly a palent that my life was going
to have to be one talk on the conspiracy type.
We're going to be a lot at all. But my
my personal feeling is that we are living in a

(01:40:51):
kind of prison planet. But I think they could be
different purposes for it. This could be a DNA library
for some kind of spacis I can experiment. It could
be a place to plug troublesome soles. Yes, it could
be literally a slave race to mine gold, as with
ap anzacorisitchen and all that kind of thing. Smoothing tablets

(01:41:16):
one the other theories about what this place could be
an experiment, a library.

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
Of school for a definite school.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
Yeah, I thought, you know, I think it could be
ordered d see. I think it's ordered these things, and
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
It so penetating with other dimsion frequency. Yeah, it's doing
all those things. But everyone seems to have the best
of the insists and it's open faction time over there.

Speaker 8 (01:41:38):
I had an outer body experience where I was taken
to be shown a doll's house.

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
What it was was just literally a doll's house.

Speaker 10 (01:41:47):
My guide guardian was behind me, always took behind me,
and the doors opened and there were loads of roads
and loads.

Speaker 9 (01:41:54):
Of shelves and on the shelves that you should of
starter to throw down. You practicipined dying saws or whatever.
You'd go up and up and up and up, until
eventually you look at moons and stars.

Speaker 8 (01:42:06):
Then the doors closed.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
And in front of the.

Speaker 8 (01:42:12):
Dohn's house, as it were, there was a pond.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
And I was looking a pond because all the while
on conscious of this voice behind him. What do you see, Dordy,
what do you see? And then as I looked down,
I noticed that the flowers around the edge or the
bank of the pond, a little bit had fallen away,
and where I looked it was made of lego. And
as I saw it was made of lego. So a

(01:42:36):
hand came out of the water tidied it back. And
my god, he said, whose hand was that, Dody, And
I said mine. He said yes, And he suggested. The
suggestion was that we were looking. I was looking at
the children's play.

Speaker 9 (01:42:51):
Look what we are if you learnt for children looking
at a system of flags.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
So I think the there's many things going on that
there's a lot of interaction. First of all, I will
say that I believe humans are far more powerful than
we think. And when I say, I do kind of
psychic work and mediumship and curveboy type work. It doesn't
mean that I'm special or best at. I believe that
everyone's got that inherent ability. If they train you at,

(01:43:21):
they're worth in it. And I think there is a
force on this planet that would very much like us
to shut up, sit down, get on with work, and
not rot vote, and people like me come along with
a big stick and rattle it inside the hornet's depths.
This is why we getting all the helicopters and the
TI stuff is because we and I say we as
in kind of people who want to do good on

(01:43:41):
the planet, and like on this planet this is you
guys as well. We are the ones that want to
change this world and we represent the threats. So the
status quote, if our world leaders wanted peace, they could
have peace in like what that's if they want it. So, however,

(01:44:02):
being members of Skull and Bones Club and various secret
organization Trilethal Commission Capsule for relations Bohemian Grove Masons are
not always bad, by the way, but the hiohwaffy going
these secret societies, the darker it gets. And then we
have a look at Jimmy Sample, and then we have

(01:44:23):
a look at Jeffrey Epstein, and then we have a
look at all of these dark, demonic things going on.
The problem is that this planet has a demon problem.
But the demons haven't got pitchforks and red skin. They're
wearing soups and they're telling to get a little jibby jabs,
and they're telling you that there's too many people on
this planet and that we all need to shut up
and just do it with this whole And we're here

(01:44:45):
to say, screw you, we want a better humanity. Do
you put just one thing? Dune battle hellipbox has scraping.
See you know Spitch has triggered some He will just
one of our roads sending this by, so you got
guide just to go excite it. And by my richest
degree with a what this Heli coops are turned up
civilians the baver and like you say, I don't get

(01:45:06):
spoke by. I just got annoyed by. Yeah, yeah, there
were day trees go alight if by Bobby Well, I
didn't have any Ilie rich walking. I'll just have you.
So just for a lah quite good beds in mods
the helicopter speaking on the upper Grade story to the
thronders of this funny cop. Yeah, bless you and your Fanders. Yeah,

(01:45:26):
he bless you for your life. They did not spoke
to the alimentbal beans, which the helicopter was main as
they have fire and wall that bless you in two.
Helicopter two.

Speaker 7 (01:45:37):
Does not.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
So would you co back? What did you?

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
I actually feel sorry. I actually feel sorry for these
people your way, like the ones that the lower rungs can't.
We don't know what's going on. They don't overscore and
they don't know really what they're doing and they're just
kind of following orders. But the thing is following orders
did work and you and berg and it's off of
work now o something. Hell, so I'm all the hay

(01:46:05):
cuts are don so where is your house?

Speaker 8 (01:46:08):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:46:09):
Innovation to hel courses.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
In the l so the only thing no military, no
but bright parts yet so we've got to stands the
airport Gatwick Luton. My whole shebaine got military enough baking
was this.

Speaker 13 (01:46:33):
Producing spans? But that's the surnary cobbess. If God apaches,
they can't from want and.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
So yeah, the thing is, I'm well aware that the
British Army and America planmy had a patch of helicopters,
but what the hell are they doing, so think by
how that's.

Speaker 13 (01:46:57):
Good be out of bike then sows?

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
But to do what by gas signing the lancer? You
whipped there? See? Yeahs any other questions.

Speaker 13 (01:47:11):
That key when your house through you're you're guarding the
cheddy bear. Is there any histories of that house.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Where No, there was a new house. It was well
as the new house. It was built in nineteen seventy three,
I'd think, no previous occupants and no previous goes to
the activity.

Speaker 6 (01:47:30):
Now you were so young, weren't you. It's almost as
if this was a carry on from another life. So
it was almost as can you hear me now? He
heard me before me?

Speaker 11 (01:47:44):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
I've always when I when I was kind of growing up,
I always felt a slightly disconnected from society. I'd never
felt that I really kind of fitted in and growing off.
Everyone was kind of liking to football and you know,
fast cars and blah. But none of that interested me.
I want to know what life is about, and where
we come from and where we're going, and what UFOs
are and what goes spolcom the gore.

Speaker 14 (01:48:08):
I understand the sort of mister Smiths thing that you're
talking about. And in their last in the matrix where
they jump one with the other. This has been seven
times where various different people I might be interacting is
but suddenly the same element comes out on them Apney

(01:48:30):
and I did not explain what it is or anything,
but I see the change is very profoundly.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
So it's like the best way of putting it's hard
to pictures being on it, but like a vibrational change,
like an energy change.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 7 (01:48:46):
It's not a nice one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Yeah. So there is the energy that I that I
felt from the two people talking in the Brighton Cafe
was the same energy or similar energy by as the
sports center they and the narration. It's just and I'm
glad somebody else has had the narration thing because you
know it. You know, we're in a nasty conspiratory kind

(01:49:09):
of like the community yesterdays you call it. And it's
nice from O that you're not the only one experiencing it.
Because the thing is, I there's two things. First of all,
I don't really care what people think, so this is
probably going to go out on the internet. I simply
don't care what people Definitely they can just make it up.
Thats fine. But the second thing is It's nice to
know that I'm not the only one and there are
other people that are experiencing and they just say they are.

Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
It seems that now you said it now, but I
recall it. I put two and suits agether. I've not
bought this the years we're talking about forty years ago
to them my own han'd thought about it, But now
you've said it true. It's it's that happens to me.
At the time, I just thought I was paranoid, or
that people were doing it and it was under it

(01:49:53):
was my fault I would be undernined, or it was
something that I was a beacon that everyone can taped
mickey out and you know that's that's what I stinky.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:50:01):
Do you think like a sock from them? That is
a bit about for many many years anyway, Do you
think that this right to make it look silly? Talking
about chronographs kinds and make sure and they've got to
have something, as you say, because it just makes you
look a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
That's a bit silly.

Speaker 15 (01:50:20):
I mean when you're thinking you go about as far
as say we are Harry Deep, Yes, yeah, we tried
to rubbish pulling indrailways, showing strips. Are you're showing their
hair ciphers in certain things?

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Yeah, many of the bone.

Speaker 7 (01:50:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:50:33):
They they've gone on about and is it because they know.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
It can happen. Yeah, but they tried to say, well, no,
there's two dangs for people to know. Okay, so well
we've done more people now, Yeah, that's so. First, the
first of all, what I'd say is it the true
origins of magic were about real magic and then it
so it went from real magic and that's what magicians
got aiming for, and then it went into the world

(01:50:58):
that kind of like psychology and illusions and pretending and
kind of not being actual real magic. But be a
cult simply means hidden the world, the cult beat and
the cult is like that with magic basically. And yeah,
if we take the notion that we live in a
controlled planet, the last thing that people would want that

(01:51:19):
are in control is an awake, aware, spiritual clearvoyan. Because
if you're clearvoyant and your psychic or at the very
least using intuition, you can see past the bullshit. You
can see past the bullshit. When COVID happened, I was like, nah,
so out first. And the thing is people really need
to question of things. At first, I thought, okay, there

(01:51:42):
is a genuine virus and there's a genuine concern, and
I'm genuinely worried about this. I tell you what did
it for me. BBC News had a video footage of
people dropping dead in China, dropping dead in the streets,
on the parks, and someone on the video lid and
people dropping dead, and I thought, oh my god, we're

(01:52:03):
going to start seeing this in the Europe and Britain.
So so then inevitably the virus came to you and
in Italy. Then it came to the UK, which is
always going to happen. And I was waiting for the
people to drop dead in the streets and they did it.
And the BBC never played that footage again, and they
never referred to it again. It was never mentioned about

(01:52:26):
the Chinese footage of people dropping deck and the fact
that they didn't even question it or mention it. Maybe
think that's bullshit. Is so if they if the if
the people in power have more awake, aware, intuitive people,
they're going to have a real problem when you get
I don't know, let's just say labor politicians or labor

(01:52:49):
prime ministers telling bare faced lies to the public again
and again and again and again and again. The people
who are awake are going to be thinking that's all bullshit,
and then they wonder why they've lost all their local
council elections. That is why do papoles support us? Well,

(01:53:10):
maybe it's not mine, but we we live in a
in the world of bullshit. This is why I've done this.
We live in a clown world. We are won by clowns.
We could have world peace if we won world peace.
And the last thing that people want controlling this bunnet
is awake and aware of people. So yeah, going back

(01:53:32):
to your point, we're attacked from all sides. So if
you take the issue of Claire Boyance, religion will tell
you it's the devil. It's all evil. You're you're consorting
with demons and some of these ghosts shows everything's demon
Oh you've got a demon here, demons coming through. It's
all about kill and death and it's all destructive. So
you've got that side of things. You've got the science,

(01:53:53):
she says, No, it's all way of rubbish. You're insignificant,
just random away of molecules and atoms and watching. Did
that's it? Benito damonds and gone. And then you've got
the school system. Also you're saying to low rubbish and
stops stop telling FIBs. Stop. Kids are born psychic, kids
are born claire boys. And then the system basically says,

(01:54:14):
stop being so silly and stop telling the stories and
then I shut down.

Speaker 7 (01:54:19):
It's this materialism because it starts at the primary school.
But not now from my experience that the higher education
you coffee found it yourself, the higher education disciplines that
that they're all essentially is thet oh Yeah, because they're
based on materials.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Yeah, because then what this studied there?

Speaker 7 (01:54:40):
Because it's all preconditioned and therefore it all filters down,
so you start to thin outside of a box and
you start to think in a different sort of way.
You are the ridicule laughed your section. But the thing
is is that it's a drip drip feed. Any day
you go to university. Here at school is for peaches

(01:55:00):
on the news.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Science. The thing is that if song is really truly open,
will be open to a lot of things. Then there's
a lot of money's been made in misism. There's a
lot of money at stake. Absolutely, if you've got like
the university professors and academics who are slightly off kilter,
even in the medical community with actually qualified doctors if
they go opscript. But they're thinking about their pensions, so

(01:55:25):
they're thinking about their jobs, they think about their mortgages,
their families, maybe that promotion. They're thinking about all the
things that could go wrong if you go opscript. And
in terms of the system, not only if we got
a real problem with what I would say is demons,
actual demons, but the rung below that, I'm going to
say it is communism. We have communism infiltrating our education system,

(01:55:49):
our councils, everything to do with kind of like wokery
and all of that nonsense. When you get past it,
when you look past it, it's Marxism. Have a look
at care star arms little passport thing where he went
to the Czech Republic at the Czechoslovakia back in the
day to go and study communism and how the Communists

(01:56:10):
were controlling their people. That went mainstream newspakes us in
the Daily Mail, and there's a little there's a little
passport photo of him and there's basically check writing, I
don't know what it says, and it was basically a
visa for him to go to the Czech Republic back
then it was Czechoslovakia to work out how the Communists
were controlling people. And what did Chairman Mao do. The

(01:56:34):
first thing that he did. The first thing he did
was round up the dissidents, anyone with a different point
of view. And the second thing was he went after
the farmers and he stole their land. The Russia, the Soviets,
I mean, people talk about the Nazis and six million
people killed, the Soviets killed ten million, the Maoisks killed

(01:56:57):
one hundred million people all and the Labor Party, the
Labor Party have made a pledge I think, to destroy
this country. But what's behind the Labor Party? That's the key.
The secret society is the real what's behind us in
the anxieties demons? Yeah, we're at war. We're at war,

(01:57:19):
and it's not really I don't view it in terms
of left and right. I'm not a Tory boy either.
I tell you how I view it, liberty, tyranny. Which
side are you on, folks, Liberty, libertarianism, freedom or tyranny
controls Christian Yeah, that's that's that. I don't care about
Latin white I don't care about conservatives or label toy whatever.

(01:57:42):
I I care about who is going to free this country,
who's going to free the world, and who wants to
repress it? And we're in a war, and well define
by so thanks I do.

Speaker 15 (01:57:54):
H shall.

Speaker 13 (01:58:00):
All the second hour in it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
When this goes out this video, take a good look
at it, because in the second half of this there
were the loads of war service.

Speaker 13 (01:58:09):
There's there's none.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
There's none now at this moment, but in the second
half there was all fine all.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
I'd love to free that.

Speaker 15 (01:58:16):
So when this goes out the second also really none
of them kind of splayed out.

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
There was none in the first part speeding cold over
here as I thought the second I was being cold.
I did get that for the first part.

Speaker 15 (01:58:30):
That there was none in the first speer, but it
was actually points and there's none. There's none else really,
weirds

Speaker 13 (01:59:00):
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