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Para talk radio, our hosts orour sponsors. Now live from J Wolf
Production Studio in Ontario, New York. Here are your hosts, Ted and
Cindy. How you doing, Sindy, I'm good, Honey. How are

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you good? I'm good. I'mgood. Post for my Facebook, so
put it on cool let's see.Hi, let's you do that. I'm
excited about tonight, though, Iam too. Hi, Christy, I'm
so used to being able to tapit and touch it. I want it

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to but I can't. Hike ChristineGenevieve, Hey, Hi, Hi Berry,
Hi, Robert, Hello, Bob, Michelle, Hello, how are
you honey? Yeah? Yeah,we got some over on my page.
I'm having a hot flash. Ikick off my shirt because I could kind

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of feel like coming and now it'slike, what's that old song? Uh,
we're having a heat wave. Yeahwave, That's exactly it right here
in Cindy's body. You are welcomeeverybody more so, you know. Karen,
Yeah, Hello, Karen. HSo we're gonna be talking with Lacrosse

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tonight, and I'm excited about thisinterview. I love lacrosse. Lacrosse lacrosse
too we have got a friendship asis is awesome as far as I'm concerned,
I love this guy. Um,you do know that his show went
off a WLFE. He doesn't havea show right now, and UM,

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I'm hoping someday he'll come back becauseI just love this guy to really really
really miss him. I really doso. UM. I know he's a
special guy. I mean he reallyis. But you know, I figured
we come in and we talk aboutum, spirits and ghosts and different cultures

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and stuff like that. Um,when he can shed some light on stuff
that you know, maybe we don'tknow or our people don't know. And
there's some other things too. Somebody'son WLF Paranormal View shows not sure who,
well who it is, but itsays, what's up, peeps,
Um, let's bring let's bring bringLacrosse on. So he's not sitting in

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the back room going hello you allright, so everybody, welcome Lacrosse to
the show. Hi, how areyou. I'm good, I'm working a
lot. Oh my god working.It looks so handsome. Thank you.
And it's Christie seeing the Paranormal Viewshows. Oh where's my stage, Christie?

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Yeah, we'll be seeing her onthe sixth and seventh of October.
She'll be doing the investigation with usand so well Mike, so some live
stuff sticks. I believe we're we'reseeing about the seventh because I'm going to
be in New York City. Anice going to Camicican. Oh even better.

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I love comic Con. I'm sayingI'm sweating so bad. I don't
know. I don't know. Canbe the men all pause? You get
it? Yeah, that's a goodone. Lacrosse always always look so nice.

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You always have, always has atie, always looks so nice.
I try to be SCHMEXI and spitSonday. I told him he said something
about what we were talking about carsbecause he really loves cars. He's,
um, what Tesla. I'm like, Oh, everybody's about the Teslas?

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Yeah lately yeah yeah, m hmm, al right cool. So U We
are on seven feeds tonight. Lastweek we're on eight. We're on seven
tonight. Um we're gonna be hopefullyhello andre um. Hopefully we're gonna be

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getting some more um outlet that we'llbe running too soon. Um Berry says,
I enjoyed the New Jersey pair ofunity. Lots of people I'm so
jelly. No exactly, Hello,Hank, Yeah, there was supposed to
be the last time Tom was in. Okay, Christie, what did Christie

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say? Christie's over on She's actuallyon my page. She's over on my
my life feed. So I'm seeingher at the corner of my eye.
So that's cool, got it.She's in the little device. Can you
hear me? Even in that littledevice? Right, She's tiny. It's

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like those little people help me.I've been here. Oh yeah, so
you know, Lacrosse. I figuredsince um, everything has been changing for
you've been working a lot. Iwanted to get you on because, um,
why don't you start up by tellingus what you're like your nationality is?

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You know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, It's like I always
tell people I'm Puerto rican Um,and when they find out I'm Jewish,
I'm like, yeah, welcome backback, hot jun um, you know.
But yes, i am Puerto ricanUm and I'm Jewish. I'm indigenous
to the Caribbean and did a lotof studying of both cultures of Judaism and

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of um the indigenous Um. There'sthere's a lot of similarities because all tribal
religions have a basic a creation story, uh basically an afterlife um judgment.
You know, like every every culturehas your basic um concepts, and they
also have the basic concept of afterlifeand what happens when you don't actually get

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to the next life. And uh, it's interesting on both you know,
uh belief systems that the concept becausea lot of people think ghosts ghost ghosts
and they they and and that's okayand that's cool. But when you start
really thinking about what those people areand what happened that they got into that

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state and their spiritual um and andtheir spirit, it gets it gets dicey
and complicated. So yeah, II am an atheist, so I do
not believe in a supreme being,but I do believe in energy. So
I want to clear that up,um, whether ghost is energy. I
just figure we just recycle, youknow, so if our spirit doesn't get

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into the bird or into the intothe cameraever, we're just recycling and just
kind of hanging around. Yeah.I just don't want to be tweety,
because that's there's always after them.I don't want to be a rock.
It'll be forever. I'll just bethere for averages doing nothing. Now,
you just kind of like, yeah, so so yeah, I mean so,

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so, explain to me what theindigenous side is a little bit.
Okay, well, I am Dinoand Diana were the indigenous people of the
Caribbean, and that it gets alittle once again, it gets complicated.
They started in South America's worked throughthe Antilles and ended up in the Caribbean.
Um, they are not the sameas the Northern. The Northern ended

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up working the way down through Mexico, things like that. But we all
kind of met the bridge is theCaribbean. So um, our people were
the first in the conquest. Um, they were the first conquered by Columbus.
Um. He didn't how do Ihow do I put? Oh?
What's the word? Um? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of the

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word because people give him all thiscredit for that. Oh what is the
word discovered? Discovered? Yea,yeah, No, he didn't discover.
He got lost, got lost,He went the wrong way. So when
he got to the Caribbean, hethought they were Indians, so hence he
called them Indians. But they weren'tIndians. Um. So what happened was

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is during that conquest, the onlyinformation we got what was basically transcribed because
we were a people of petroglyphs,explorers. We would go up and down
the east coast of the North Americas, all through Central America and South America.
So we were the explorers. Mostof the words that you know today
canoe, diano, barbecue, diano, even the word hurricane comes from the

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dian So a lot of the alot of the everyday culture people don't realize
came from the people. So withthat being said, uh, what we
what Well, what the Dianos believedis they believed in three celestial places.
There was your upper, celestial,middle, lower. Now it wasn't heaven
in hell. They didn't believe inthat at all. They just believed your

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spirit could either go up or itcould go down. Most of them wanted
to go down because going down meantyou were going back into the Earth Mother
and back into her womb. Soit was like a beautiful recycling. But
when the soul didn't actually go anywhere, it would just wander. It would

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just wander around. Then yeah,that was like your middle plane, and
they would just wander. But ifthey it's like the same thing in Judaism.
If they wandered too long, theystarted becoming aggressive because they haven't found
peace. So since they haven't foundany peace, which they call them the
goes. The goalies is a livingsoul, so we are technically a goes.

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We are a living soul. Ahoopia is a soul that has been
stuck. They debate. Yeah,huopia or obia, that's the soul of
the dead. Um. And sowhat happened was is our shamans or our

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medicine people. You had the hicahe would be the spiritual leader of the
um of the tribe. And thenyou had the boy too, and he
was the journeyman. So his jobwas to go. He would take cohoba,
which is a hallucinogen. He wouldjourney. He would find these souls
and take them back to Kabei andthen whatever medicine that he would get from

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them, because that was technically anancestor, he would bring it back to
heal the living. So it's it'sa it's pretty intense on on on how
they did things. Um and thehohopia or not the huopia what is it?
Yeah, the huopia would get aggressive. It would try and snatch your

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soul or your body because it didn'thave one. And well, yeah,
yeah, and uh so what wouldhappen, wasn't There's a lot because even
my grandfather would say that he wouldyou weren't supposed to go out after dark.
If you went after dark, ahoopie, I would get you.

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And he remembered he said he sawone and that he was going and the
only way he could tell. Andyou're not supposed to look in their eyes
because if you look in their eyes, eyes at a window to the soul,
that's how they got in. Sohe would keep his eyes closed if
he went out at night, alllike, I don't know how you're gonna
find where you're going, but goodluck, pops. Uh but that's yeah,

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it was crazy. And oh hi, I did say hi a little
bit. I said it to herin the text message, Hi a little
bit, Oh no, I said, But I said, Hi, my
mama is in here. I seethe melodies in there. I see that.
That's cool. So you know,that's kind of cool because you know,

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I studied theology, and you knowthere's a lot of different um within
the cultures itself and its religions andits faith. There's a lot of what
do you want to call them superstitions? Yes, and the superstitions. They
all start from somewhere, and sometimesit's usually a story from the past where

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you know, somebody's and or uncleor whatever. Let's just say met up
with, say the cho Picabra.Let's just sell that out there. And
all of a sudden, the storywas invented, and that story was put
out there to deter people from goingout after dark, yes you know what
I mean, and getting into youknow, certain planes or certain deserts and

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stuff like that, because that's whatthey're known to be in. And so
a lot of cultures had that withtheir face and their religion, and that's
how a lot of that changed overnow with the superstitions and the ghosts,
and even with today, I mean, everybody just calls them ghosts. But
what is a ghost? Right?You know, some people say, well,

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it's a It could be um,the Incubis, the Succubis, it
could be the banshee, it couldbe you know what I mean. So
there's so many different things out there, and if you don't know your history
or you know what, you're followingthe tradition itself or whatever that culture may
see these as um, you're you'remessing with something you don't know. And

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you know, you don't know whatyou're gonna do, you know, right,
And you can even look at thesigns of it, like I always
tell people, I said, what, how do we know? It's just
not a parallel universe kind of crossingover and we're now you're getting into Cindy
stuff, you know. But thenyou just don't know. And at the
end of the day, I lookat I said, who says you're not
the ghost? Yeah? Right,that's exactly it. You know, it's

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a great movie that talked about that, right, yeah, I mean it's
but it's It's bottom line is isat that point in time, whether you're
the ghost or you see the ghost, somebody's lost, right, you know
that's how I look at somebody placed. Well, I'm gonna bring this up.
Remember, remember you remember that thatmovie? Was it People under the
Stairs? Cindy know what was themovie that the others? Yes? You

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know it was a two dimensions right? Yes? Yeah, or even something
as good as like the Sixth Sense. He didn't even know the sixth Sense.
Oh yeah, he didn't know.Yeah, yeah, definitely. List
from the Lords told me, Yeah, I'm about to get the whip and
jump in the car. Ted tedted high. You know what a little

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bit I said it on the message. Now I've said it to you vocally
here, so turn up through volumeor learn how to read it. Growze
for her for a little bit.But I like that she said, all
right, Ted, you are aboutto get a spanking. Yeah, well
she says she's gonna get the whipand jump in the car. I know,
I like that. That's kind offun to me. I just want

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to be a watchful participant. Thereyou go. So you got a question
already there, Lacrosse. Does theNative tradition have stories of myth about ets?
You know, I can't speak forother Indigenous people because I don't know
they're you know, I don't knowtheir ways. I know in ours,
we I've never heard one. Idon't know that one has been recorded,

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because, like I said, mostof our stuff was recorded and fourteen like
early for fifteen hundreds, and itwas recorded through a Christian perspective. With
that being said, they mostly didthe stories and made us seem more like
savages. So it's kind of hardto deter and the Yeah, it was

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twisted and um, you can evenread you can even find some of the
writings the One of the writers wasRamon Bane and another one was Bartolomeo de
las Casas, and they literally wrotesome of the history, some of the
stories, some of the what theydid to the indigenous people, which ended
up going to Spain didn't help much, but it was. It was horrific.

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But as far as anything concerning anytype of extraterrestrial I've never heard anything
that's cool she has. Are thereany sacred text or anything for that um
other than probably what's been written,what's in the caves? What's in the
caves? Honestly, whatever is inthe caves are sacred texts because they were

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all petroglyphs, since we didn't actuallyhave a language that was phonetic in the
sense of writing. Everything was likea picture of a turtle or a picture
of a manatee, or a pictureof a man and a woman. Those
were our sacred texts because that's Theyeven found them as far north as um
I think Georgia. They found actualDiana petroglyphs. So why do you spell

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that? How do you spell thatDiana or petroglyphs? I could do,
but petriclyffs I don't know, right, it's t a I n o oh.
Okay, Andrew says, how doI spell the native tradition wording?

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Too is the name of of theindigenous? Well, there were okay,
let me explain. There were twotribes. There was the Godibs, which
were the warrior type, and therewas the Thino, which were the very
passive. So, um, Ijust know I'm fourteen percent indigenous. I

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could be Godib you know at theend of the day, because you can't
really tell. It's hard to placewhere your bloodline is. You know,
like northern people can you know,place it a little bit more because they
have a lot more documentation. Butus, all our documentation went to Spain
when Spain left in eighteen ninety two. So in Puerto Rico, I gotta

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go. You gotta go to Spainif you want to know anything, right,
you know, that's gotta be toughto find stuff, like, it's
got to be nerve wrecking too.So I'm pretty sure that when you were
doing all that research you were like, oh, it's frustrating. It was
very frustrating because it stops at eighteenforty one. For me, Wow,
that's it. I can only goas far back, you know, within
Puerto Rico. I can only goas far as back as eighteen but for

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the record, a lot of mymy my ancestry did come from Spain.
So that's why I have such asmall percentage of indigenous. Doesn't make it
any less valid, but I mean, and they didn't keep records of the
indigenous people. They would just callthem mestizos, or they would call them,
you know, mixed breeds or whatever. So there was really no They

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just documented your color. So you'reeither white or you were dark. That
was it. That was it.Yeah. Peanut butter, like in in
my family calls himself peanut butter.I prefer butter, pecan Puerto Rican,
Oh butter. This is what aj said. Peanut peanut butter for him

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is his um Puerto Rican, hisJamaican and his white. There you go,
there you go, you peanut butterfor fluff. Maybe if he's it's
a little all right. So Andrehas another question for you. So is
the Jewish piano over lappem endemic tothose islands? Islands are just youry So

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yeah, that's interesting both interest bothabsolutely because a lot of people don't understand
that. In fourteen ninety two,when Columbus came. He brought criminals.
What was going on in Spain infourteen ninety two position, So who were
the criminals? The Jews. Sothey shoved them into boats, sent them

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off to the Caribbean, pay offtheir time because it was either that or
death. They had to turn theirback on the Jewish faith. They had
to become Catholic, they had torepent, and then they had to go
work. So so it is anoverlap. Um, but I'm Jewish due
to my Spanish ancestry from Spain,not from my ancestry from the Caribbean.

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So mine came from because my family'sfrom Barcelona, which was predominantly Jewish.
And there's a whole bunch of othercomplicated things, you know, a lot
of it, and it's just beingput in a bowl and mixed up.
Yeah, it is like. Andthe funny thing is is when I actually
did to my DNA, I endedup from Morocco, Africa, Middle East,

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um, Spain. I'm like,what the I'm hins fifty seven and
the going throwing it on the wall, that's what you are? Whatever that
one looks like. Well, thefunny part was is that I did my
DNA too. I did twenty threeand me and it said when I first

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had it done that I was pointone percent African. I'm like, I
knew it. It changed somewhere alongthe way and they took my African out
of me. But I ended upAstanazzi Jew and I'm like, what,
yes, my sister too? AndIrish. I'm like, I thought,

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okay, which for your part waswas colludling in there? I got Astanazzi
Jew and Irish? Come on now, yeah, well I have a lot
of I have a lot of mostof me, I think they have said
now is Eastern European, right rightright European. I haven't you better go

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the bathroom for that. I knowI'm a Pean right here, right now,
right, So let's get back guycheckers. So, you know,
one of the things that I reallylike about different cultures is their views and
their superstitions. And that's where Iwant to kind of talk about things.
I know that and we're all goingto get the opportunity to say, because

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we all follow a different faith ortradition or culture, we all kind of
like bring that into because I thinkthis day and age and even you know,
our age now and the younger.You know, underneath this is like
we want to know where we're comingfrom, and that's why all that is
blown up, you know, andit's very important to all of us to
find out. Like with me,it's like I wanted to know who my

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totems were from the Native American side. When I started doing the research,
I wanted to know who I wasrelated to, you know, and being
coming from a family like where myparents are from Standards, New York,
my mom has and there there's stillhill people, and you know, the
superstitions there are so different. Ohyeah, especially when you're indigenous. They're

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so different from you know what,say, you know where I live now,
what they believe in their Catholic orChristian or Jewish faith or so on
and so forth. So superstitions areone of those things that I love to
hear about because it's like, yeah, I don't know how many times you
go somewhere and somebody starts saying,oh, you better throw salt over your

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shoulder, right, I wondered why, right, right right. It's so
funny because there is one tradition thatum in Puerto Rico we have which I
remember as a child, my parentswould constantly whenever you were bad, the
cucko was coming. The what thecuckoo okay called el cucko, Now el
Cucko is actually it's it's very interestingbecause in Recibo they do a festival and

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and it's actually this big club almostlooks like a crampus. Oh, but
it does. It walks around witha bat and if you're bad at beach,
you and takes it takes you.It drags you off to the woods
and then beat your ass and thensend you back your ass. Yes,
yes, it will beat your ass. So they're like, and I remember
my parents. If you think I'mgoing to give it to you hard,

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wait till the cuckoo comes for youbecause you were bad. I don't want
to go. I don't want toyou know. But there were um I
always say, there were things youcan't explain. And where I'm going with
this story. As I was aboutfifteen years old, I was hanging out
my cigarette, smoking a cigarette whichI wasn't supposed to know. I'm hanging

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out my cigarette and finally I'm lookingoff into the distance and at the end
of the fence we had a smallfence, there was this thing I don't
know what it was, and itwas just kind of rocking back and forth
and it starts shaking the fence andit's and you just cheer this coming out

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of it. So when I sawI said, oh shit, close my
way through the cigarette, close mywind to cover my head and then oh
my god. And I'm thinking,and then I'm like, you're crazy,
You're crazy. But the crazy partis at six in the morning, I
hear my father yelling and he's saying, these goddamn kids always tearing up my

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fence and destroying my fence. AndI looked out and the fence was destroyed.
Wow. I don't know what itwas. I have no idea.
I just know I saw something.And of course my first thought was the
cuckle came to get me because Iwas smoking. That was my first the
guckle showed up. And that's that'slike like you said, the croppis it's

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it's pretty close to the same thing. Because the Cropus theory was that um,
it would come like if you werebad, especially around Christmas time,
if you're a bad kid, Cropuswould come and get you, throw you
in his bag, and then hewould collect all the bag to the world
taken back to his plane and thenhe would pretty much either eat you or
you know whatever. So, youknow, some of those beliefs were that,

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hey, you better be good atCrompus is going to get you right
right and with us. But youknow what those cydi that's the way traditions
were. And some of some ofthese beliefs were like that because if you
were a bad if the parents didn'thave any way to control you, that
was their way of saying, okay, keep your up, guess what's going
to happen? Yeah, I mean, is it any different than saying,

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if you're good, Sam will bringyou toys? Right, It's not really
any different. So what you wantto buy the kid or you want to
scare the kid? I scare thekid, and I'm like, because I'm
not buying your ship. All right, you've been bad. It's different than
the Christian value. It's like,hey, if you're good, if you
do what you do, you goto God. If not, you go

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to hell. It's always good.Yeah. Yeah, most of us are
living that now, so we don'teven but that's right, you know,
is hell to me? You know, but there are so many different stories,
like there is actually um a Nativestory that I remember that when you
did something that you weren't supposed todo, like against your parents, like

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if you um fought back with yourparents, if you did anything like that,
if you were bad to your tribe, to your people, if you
they would cast you out. Okay, So when they casted you out,
it was a belief that similar tolike the werewolf, but it was a
skin walker and stuff like that,that this would come and get you,

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you know, and drag you andmake you him his right, you know,
and then you would have to servehim. Yeah, you know.
And and that's and that's scary stuffwhen you're a little kid, because you
know, do you know what askin walker looks like? I mean,
there's a lot of pictures out there, but I'm gonna google it. And
when you think of what a skinwalker is, I mean, it could

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turn into anything, be anything.Yeah, you know. See you know,
And I'm not saying that that's whatthe skin walkers, you know thing
really was, but there were storiesof things like that, I'm blessing my
phone before I look at this.Nothing is allowed to come in or out
of this phone. Well it wasn't. It wasn't any worse than the stories

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of like Hansel and Gretel. Youdidn't go to the woods, you didn't
take food from somebody that you didn'tChristmas. It was based on the fact
that up, it was based onthe fact that you did not steal.
Why why did I look this up? This is terrifying. Yeah, there's

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a lot of different looks like hehas a bad back, poor guy.
Yeah, and walk pretty much lookedlike anything. But you know, the
true story of Hansel and Gretel,you know, it was basically you did
not steal. That was the wholething of the story, where you did
not steal, and they stoled,and that the witch was going to eat
them, which was going to killthem and put her in the put them
in the oven. So stuff likethat has been in our past forever,

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and there was always something to todeter you from doing wrong, right,
because it's about it's a matter ofcontrol, and that's what it boils down
to. I'm not saying that thesestories are true. I'm not saying saying
that they're not true. The bottomline is that there has to be like,
Okay, we could talk biblical here. Moses could have said, look,

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there's somebody up there. He hadto control six million people. How
is he going to do that?If there's not somebody up there, You're
gonna strike you down if you ifyou get out of line, you better
follow me. You know, I'mnot saying that it didn't happen, But
what I'm saying is is you've gotto control people in the sense because it's
hard to control a mass amount ofpeople. Well, our government's doing,

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you know what they're doing. SoI shouldn't have said that. I should
have said that, but but youknow, yeah, now, if you're
trying to droll us, all right, listen, I wanted to go to
Comic Con and he had to getmy fucking shot. I mean what.
But you know, there's a lotof stuff out there, and it's not

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just about the kids being but youknow as well as I do, that
a lot of those things were turnedinto not just fairy tales, but songs
that the kids say. Yeah,yeah, well, I mean I mean
yeah, I mean Ring around theRosie was actually about the plague. The
plague, Yeah yeah, it wasabout the plague. Doc. Doc says

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he always wanted a witch to eathim. Oh Jesus, I mean so
skinwalkers might be witches to doc well, they are a form of God,
believe it or not. So thereyou go, right, But you know,
a lot of things like that kindof get me because we used to

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hear a lot of things, andsome of these old stories and myths and
stuff like that come from, likefrom what I'm told a hint of truth.
They come from what they believe.So it's a hint of truth.
So whether it's you know, theyreally saw that or not, there was
always some truth behind it or somethingthey couldn't explain that. I was actually

(35:22):
just about to say that because itgoes to dealing with a primitive mindset.
They were very primitive back then,so they weren't able to articulate what they
saw. So what are they gonnasay, I saw the Jersey Devil or
I saw you know, I sawthis, or I saw that. And
it's not that they didn't see itthat that's all how they could articulate it,

(35:45):
and they were so scared or somethingthat they didn't understand. Imagination grows
and it extends. I'm not goingto say there wasn't some type of animal
during the Jersey Now did it lookexactly like how they say, I don't
know. Maybe today we could lookat it and say, oh, maybe
it was like a deform cougar.Who knows, right, Well, look
at the way they describe Let's let'stake this to this extreme for just a

(36:06):
second. But let's talk about theway people describe Bigfoot, how they describe
the Dogman, how they describe mothMan, how they describe you know what
I mean. There's always some difference, but yet there's a lot of things
that are the same, right,you know, So who are we to
say, Okay, I've never seenit, so I can't tell you right,
you know. But you know,that brings me back to something that

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I learned a long time ago,especially in faith and religion and how things
started. If we take um asmall little step backwards in thinking about the
way man itself started to develop,especially with faith and gods and the belief

(36:52):
you could go back to caveman daysto where picture this. You're in a
cave, you have your your clanthere, and then you know they're starving
and you know, blah blah blah. But yet outside the cave door there's
a whole bunch of deer out there. Well, there we are sneaking up
on that deer is to act likethat deer so they can get close enough

(37:14):
to kill that dear, so theywould engulf that image and go out there,
you know, right, And andso that was okay, Well,
you know a God is giving methat you know, intent, that that
belief, so you know, ifI have to do this, then I
have to, you know. Sothat's how things start, it really does.

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It is like we try to ourmind tries to say, well,
how am I going to do that? And is there an influence from somewhere
making this happen? Right right?Absolutely? Absolutely? And you know,
and I think that's the beauty ofit is that as we get older,
we'll not get older, as aswe evolve we start Now we're actually being

(37:59):
able to see and see and wecan document. Now, we can see
real footage like I may not beI may not believe in God, but
some of the things that I see, you know, and I'm like,
whoa, that's yeah, what isit? Yeah, that's crazy, that's
crazy. And I even I can'tarticulate it, you know. And and
we have so much more of anextensive language now. But now we have

(38:22):
the opportunities to document to to toreally see these things up close and personal.
And there's always somebody other than ourselvesthat has a piece of information that
we don't that can help with thatas well. And that's why I like
the fact that us, you know, as in human beings, we're always
out there trying to learn. We'retrying to you know, we're very um

(38:44):
curious, you know. And eventhough curiosity killed the cat, you know,
there's another one of those little sayings, the curiosity killed the cat,
but what brought it back right rightexactly exactly, you know, So we
just have to remember that, youknow, being who we are as human

(39:06):
beings and animals ourselves, um whatit? Can? You put Doc up
on it because nobody else can seehis because they're all on Facebook. So
you gotta show with Doc broke tobuy it. There we go. It's

(39:27):
cheaper. It's cheaper if we justfill up the bathtub with ice cubes and
letter jump in. I had Jetbring me the fan and turn it on
for me. I couldn't handle itanymore. So you know that there's there's
other things like what you were saying, that there's things that even surprise you

(39:47):
still today with like I don't havean answer. It's the same with us
within the paranormal all the way around. Even though we can sit down and
probably say nine percent or eighty fivepercent of what we do we can explain,
there's you're still left with ten orfifteen percent of saying, uh,
well, I have no explanation,yeah, exactly exactly, And then some

(40:09):
people, then other people would sayto you, well, it's it's it's
faith, it's believe, it's yeah, yeah, let's let's dot got here.
Hold on. The evolution of languageis a good point. Over the
centuries, we just didn't have thedetailed language that would describe what was being
witnessed, right, Yeah, sofunny. I was just actually thinking about

(40:30):
that yesterday. I think it isthat, you know, the Bible was
written, but it may have beena couple of nights ago because I was
watching this new show on Netflix calledMidnight Mass Yes, I actually just saw
the thing for that. Yeah,it's pretty good. It's pretty good.
I would I would tell you guysto go because it's not necessarily what you

(40:52):
think. So it's it's pretty good, and it's a great thing to discuss
afterward, right right. It's what'sinteresting is you know, the whole concept
of the Bible and what they weresaying back then, right, these different
things for that era. Right,it's and I think it's interesting that humans

(41:16):
tried to put whatever. And itdoesn't matter if you have a Roman Catholic
periast, if you have a Episcopalianpriest or you know, minister and or
Baptist minister. Right, they allhave their own spin on what it means,
and it can be however they wantto control you with it when it

(41:37):
comes down to it, and what'sright, it's not funny. But what's
what we've learned also about that isthat the fact is it's called a comfortability
fact or something that they themselves canbe comfortable with. So that's why they
say certain things. That's why theywrote the way they wrote. What's because
they wanted it to be translated towhere people can understand it as well as

(41:57):
it being comfortable enough, right,you know, for them to live with
it exactly exactly exactly. And there'sa I have a whole other um understanding
on that which will probably get ontothat when we go into the other part
of like Judaism. But there Idid see a question, Yeah, Andrea
yes, why why what did Journeymanbring back medicine from a disembodied spirits?

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Okay, there we go. Thereis a perfect, perfectly good question.
Just because the spirit is disembodied orwhatever doesn't mean it doesn't have medicine.
It doesn't mean that it doesn't haveanything to offer. There are people today,
they aren't dead, and they're sickin the head. They have lots
of problems, lots of issues,but it doesn't mean that they don't have

(42:45):
anything to bring to the table.Uh oh snap. Also with that,
with with that, with that beingsaid, it's just it's just a lost
soul. It's lost, it's youknow, it may end up getting aggressive
because it's frustrated because it's lost andit doesn't realize what direction it needs to

(43:07):
go. But it doesn't mean thatit's worthless. It still has you know,
it still has purpose even and there'sactually the hope he tried, the
hope he tried. One of theirgreatest medicine people is an idiot. It's
an idiot. His job is tojust be a fool, act like an
idiot because and why is that Hismedicine is laughter and laughter is medicine exactly

(43:32):
heels, laughter, heels, andthey knew that, right, So that's
I mean, and not that I'mlike, yes it is, it is
risky. It is risky, justlike it is risky we just even regular
people. Every day we're taking achance with people every single day, connecting,
building relationships. We get screwed over. You know, it is what

(43:54):
it is. But it doesn't meanyou don't take the lessons. You apply
them and you take the medicine andthat's offered. So I love that so
much, Lacrosse. I love thatso much. It was a great answer,
and I definitely agree with that becauseI mean, I would like to
believe that all the spirit that Ispeak to, I mean, I'm it's

(44:15):
still the same thing. Though I'mnot necessarily a shaman, right, I
still bring medicine to those that needit right right, right, And there's
there's there's other things like in thepast of with some of the pagan cultures
as well as their magic, isthat they're what they would do is if
they were dealing with if they weredealing with something evil, something very negative,

(44:38):
and in some cases they had nochoice but to conjure something that was
even more evil or more dangerous thanwhat that was, just to get rid
of it, right, So youknow that's and you can find that in
voodoo, you can find that inyou can even find it in Judaism the
gull them yeah oh yeah, yeah, I mean that out there that sometimes

(44:59):
you have to, you know,bring up the bed to kill the bed.
Well, when you think about itthis way, in witchcraft, in
wickou and paganism, Um, ifyou want to get rid of cancer,
which is a living being, youhave to kill the cancer, which is
a living thing. That's black magicthat you have to use to to kill

(45:22):
the cancer, to heel the bodybody right, right, So it's a
balance of black and white, right, it's never just this. This I
like to call it a great areabecause you know what was that to use
both? You know what was thatthat war? That war statement that used
to say the war the enemy ofmy the enemy of my enemy, The

(45:45):
enemy of my enemy is my friend. There you go, the enemy of
my enemy is my friend. Yes, and sometimes you have to you have
to do that, you know.Yeah, I mean that's a regular that
comes right from war, right exactly. I mean look at I mean just
itself. I think it was eitherthe vikings of the English used the u

(46:07):
Irish to go after the Scottish.Yeah, yeah, you know what I
mean. But they were both consideredpagan. In fact, the Scottish thought
the pet the thought the the Irish. Scottish thought the Irish eight eight peoples
or something like that, they werethey were cannibals. And I reading that
somewhere, but there was something likethat. So there's a lot of different

(46:28):
stuff out there that just nothing isas binary as good and evil. Yeah,
nothing is as binary as good andpeople. Yeah, oh my god,
that just made me remember a dreamI had so wow, that was
like so weird. That just totallybrought me to that dream that was so

(46:54):
weird that and I had that solong ago. So what do now?
So let's let's get into So you'reindigenous siding in. What are they called
ghosts? What are they to them? Just the spirits, It's the hoopia,
it's a it's a soul. It'sjust a lost soul. It's a
soul um that didn't make it backor um. It's also, uh,

(47:17):
it could be somebody who recently passedand it's on their journey, you know,
so because you don't know when yousee it you know, like how
people don't plan to see spirits orghosts or anything, you know, I
mean, unless you're going out togo look for it. The chances of
actually finding a legit one. Likewe've spoken before, it's it's rays,

(47:37):
it's a rarity. I'm gonna askyou, Lacrosse, have you ever seen
one? I think I did.I think I saw something like once again,
there was one that would actually alwaysgo after my father. It was
a woman. Uh. She wasalways dressed in white, she always had
long hair, blonde hair, andshe would always go to my father.
Nobody else in the house. Everybodysaw this woman except my father. From

(48:02):
what we had been told, someonehad been killed during the construction in that
I lived in the development. Thisis when developments really started popping up in
the sixties, you know, thefifties, the sixties. So in the
late sixties, my father had purchaseda home and was waiting for it to
be built, and from what wehad heard, this woman was killed during

(48:22):
the construction. I don't know ifthat's something that was just told to us,
if it was fact. I justknow everybody had seen this woman and
she always went to my father.So that's interesting. I wonder if I
wonder if she went to him becauseshe was reminded of somebody she knew.

(48:42):
Maybe. I don't know. Inever stopped the asswer. Excuse me,
lady. Ah, poo poo pooh, get away, lady, I got
some questions for you. No,no, this little Jersey boy is gone.
Okay, I'm out of here.No. Oh, sorry, my

(49:07):
headphones popped for a second. Thereit goes. Okay, there you go.
They pop right off. All right. So we're gonna go to um
the Jewish side here at right afterbreak. So let's finish up here for
the next few couple of minutes beforewe take break. And you know,

(49:30):
so to you, like, whatelse do you have that you can talk
about that that yourself, um islike a I don't know, our superstition
or something that kind of is freakythat you would consider. You know,
well, I you know, it'shard because, like I said, I've

(49:51):
had some to be an atheist,and so I've had so many things that
have happened to me. And bean atheist is like some people are just
like I don't get it. Butbottom line, my atheism is God is
irrelevant. Okay, it's just that'swhat it boils down to. God is
irrelevant. But I've had so manyincidents, like some people believe in guardian
angels. One time, it waslate at night and I was with my

(50:15):
daughter, and my daughter was verysmall, she was like about two three
years old, and I got offthe bus because I was going to go
see a cousin of mine. AndI'm walking and walking and I'm thinking.
And it was late because see andJersey, the buses run twenty four seven,
so it must have been like twoto three in the morning. And
I started walking and I was gonnaget jumped, even though I had my

(50:37):
kid with me, I was gonnaget jumped. There was like about four
guys that they started walking my way, and I'm just like, okay,
this is it. And I'm justthinking about just don't don't you know,
beat me. I don't care.Just don't hurt my baby. I'll give
you whatever money I got. Justdon't touch my baby. All of a
sudden, they just looked at meall freaked out and they turned around and

(50:57):
left. So I'm like, whata hell? And I turned around this
big tall guy, huge massive guy, like he must have been like six
four and six five, and hegoes, you are right now, I
walk you home. I said,m okay, And he had the clearest
eyes. They weren't blue, theywere like ice. So he walked me
and I got to the corner.Now it was a corner and my cousin's

(51:22):
house was right here, and thestreet here and here. I literally he's
like, I think you're okay fromhere? How did he know where I
was going? I don't know.So I start walking and I literally took
like maybe two three stopped in twothree steps, and I said, you
know what this is two week Iturned around and I literally went to the
street two three steps back. Youwould have seen him at least walking in

(51:44):
one of those three directions. Nothing, nothing gone. And I'm like,
okay, that's weird. I don'tknow how to explain it. So I
go to my cousin. Oh,it's a guardian angel. God sent the
guardian angel. I don't know.He was a big guy. Though I
know he was tall. He wastoo big to be an angel. Those

(52:05):
wings would have never looked at him. Up, give me a ride,
you know, lacrosse. That's literallyhow I see angels is they are huge.
They are really big. Comparatively tous. Well, the arch angels
I see is like nine to twelvefeet tall, and yeah, so,
and then the angels in between areanywhere from six to that nine feet tall.

(52:30):
Oh, Like, I definitely feellike you had some divine intervention my
friend. Maybe maybe, I meanit's it's like I said, it's just
I I have a problem with thatbecause of the whole point is that if
there is a God, he reignson the just and the unjust. And

(52:51):
I believe that if there is aGod, there's more important things to be
done than worry about me. Thereis a universe to keep together, stop
us from crashing into the sun.My lottery ticket does not take precedence.
My kid who's sick does not takeprecedence. When you think that we are
nothing but this minuscule thing. So, like I said, I'm not an
atheist because I dislike God or Idon't want anything to do with it.

(53:15):
It is irrelevant. When we liveon this planet are the ones who make
our determine our lives exactly. So, So the things that Spirit has taught
me was that we we control ourcontracts. We have what is it contractual

(53:40):
agreements with other souls that agreed todo certain things with us. It's not
necessarily that your sick child is becauseof God, right, It's because they
contractually came into this life and said, this is how you're going to learn,
this is how I'm going to learn, etc. Right, And and

(54:00):
that's how I like to think aboutit, rather than some higher being is
going I'm going to a mighty right. Right. It's just that come to
me is completely And I have aproblem with that because when you sit here
and you see a poor mother whoher child is dying of cancer, and
this one said, oh I prayedand God answered my prayer because I had

(54:20):
faith. That woman had just asmuch faith exactly. So don't tell me
that your prayer or your faith wasyou would you surp hers. It's just
to me that just it's just logical. It makes no sense. It's just
hypocritical. And I think it's justpeople need it. People need a God
because at the end of the day, we're going to die, and they

(54:44):
got to know we're going somewhere.Yeah, they don't want to end up
in a rock. You know what'sthat word? Uh? When that fear?
Yes? Yes, and you knowand and I you know what's what's
weird is like I've always when Iget in heated discussions with my father,
and trust me, there's been alot um. There's always stuff like,

(55:07):
uh, something will come up aboutdeath and it's like, you think I'm
afraid to die. I'm I'm notafraid to die. It's it's the fear
of leaving all this with you,not being able to take care of yourself
and who else is going to doit right? That is my fear.
It's not fear. I'm not scaredto die. I fear who will take

(55:27):
care of my kids? Who willtake care of my wife? My fear
is the sadness. It's like almostan overwhelming sadness that I won't be here
to protect them, to love them, to cherish them, or teach them.
It comes in or teach them right, And that's where my fear comes
in. But if it's my timeto go, you know what, I
had a good run and I can'tcomplain I had a good life. But

(55:47):
at the end of the day,I don't want to die. Don't get
me wrong, I don't want todie. But you know what's that when
I when I die, I wantthem to bury me. In the ground
as hanging out so I can usemy butt as a as a bicycle.
Older. Oh that sounds terrible.Why am I sitting your ass out of

(56:09):
the ground. But it's worse,my uncle says, bury me upside down
so the world could kiss my ass, and I'm like a not nice all
right. I think we're gonna takea break and we're gonna come back,
um, and then we're gonna talktalk about some more myths, talk about
some more superstitions, talk about alot of different stuff, and have fun

(56:32):
because that's what it's about. Youknow, we're learning. Sometimes you just
have to have fun to learn,believe or not. Yeah, you know,
it's easier than sitting in a schoolgoing yeah, how do you learn?
Excuse me? Whack? You know. So we'll come back to Karen's
um comment when we come back,right, all right, sounds good to

(56:55):
me. All right, guys anywhere, We'll be right back. Oh yeah,

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to our programs. Okay, okay, So I was looking up Thunderbird stuff.
Okay, Teddy, he's so funny. I love it. Well,
there was a reason why I didthis. So but do you go ahead
with what you got? And nowI will go with what this is for.

(01:00:43):
Well, why don't you do years. First, Okay, so people
have the sphere of clowns. Theyhave a fear of painted faces, they
have a fear of things like this, and believe it or not, the
clown was one of those creatures thatand I'm going to say creature because they
started out with the indigenous people.M What they were were to scare evil
spirits away. They would paint theirfaces in depth different ways, as well

(01:01:07):
as add stuff to their appearance toscare evil spirits or keep unwanted um other
groups of people from their place,so they would scare them. It was
the same as the jack lantern.It was the same as putting um wood
in the trees to make noise,you know what I mean, and things

(01:01:29):
like that. So it's another oneof those things that we don't understand where
it came from. And clowns areone of those. They were to scare
evil spirits. They were to scarepeople from getting too closed, you know,
especially dead people. So that's anotherthing that I just wanted to bring
up real quick. So oh yeah, now it's now it's used for comedy,

(01:01:52):
but back in the day it wasused to actually instill fear, right,
Yeah, I mean there's plenty ofthings that still in fear and still
fear with a clown face, rightright, right, all right. So
Karen Smith's question was, I hadan encounter with a statement. I had

(01:02:12):
an encounter with a thunderbird. Itwhave machandow massive and then with four other
birds. Also, what are someof the thunderbird references? Sody's got that
answer for you. Yes, Sowhen I looked it up on Google,
it says the native thunderbird symbol representspower, protraction, power, protection,

(01:02:32):
and strength. He has often seenit as the most powerful of all spirits
and can also transform into human formby opening his head up like a mask
and taking his feathers off as ifthey were a mere blanket. And I
have um, I have Ted Andrews, animals speak and h. He just

(01:02:53):
mentions very briefly a couple things aboutthe thunderbird, and it says, um,
the thunderbird is a spirit creature withgreat creative power and might. And
then he also references the thunderbird tothe Native Americans is the most is most

(01:03:14):
often depicted in the form of aneagle. This was the great spirit who
controlled lightning and rain, punishment andreward and that's why the eagle feather is
um it's illegal to have the eagle. Yeah, if you don't have Indigenous
blood, you are not allowed tohave you are not allowed. If I
could also let like when when animalscome to you, birds, whatever animal,

(01:03:39):
you gotta understand it's a guide.And I always tell people the best
thing you can do is learn everythingyou can about that animal, because it's
got a lesson. It's got toteach you, you know. Like lately
I've had the horse big time comingto me. I've already passed the time
of the wolf. I mean,I always have my crow with me at
all times, but lately it's thehorse and me trying to figure out what

(01:04:03):
what what does the horse want toteach me? Because I know I'm stubborn
and I moved my feet, youknow, you know. But also that
sounds more like a jackass though,because you're maybe I'm a mule. I
was just saying, But that's that'swhat a mule or a jackass or a
burrow um. They are. They'revery stubborn. But what other people don't

(01:04:26):
understand is they're also protectors because inthe indigenous life, they're also they were
they were used to put around theircamps because they did keep the coyotes and
the wolves away. They were veryprotective and they would actually kill the coyotes.
Um. It was just another thingthat that the indigenous people learned over
all those years, you know,that that some animals were protective. Oh

(01:04:51):
yeah, definitely, definitely. I'mall totem. I love my totems.
I love them, I do Idefinitely, I definitely step back, especially
when I'm doing a reading and anykind of animal, insect, anything that
comes in. I make sure Ilet my clients know that there is a
reason that that that that creature iscoming to you right now. So Robert,

(01:05:17):
if you know Robert, if youever seen his post, he deals
with a lot of these little birds, the rainbow larrakeets, and uh they
he puts his arm out and theyall land on his arm. I mean,
these birds just love him to death, and he's just thankful they're not
thunderbirds because a few of her Nippersysonso right, Karen Smith says, yes,

(01:05:38):
two big ravens moved in. ButI am telepathic, so I can
even communicate with the fish they swiminto my net. Wow, that's amazing.
That is that's so cool. Thatis all right. So we're going
to move over to the jewel clowns, porklowns, yea wor clowns, and

(01:06:04):
um he is the birdman of Australia. There you go, Robert, that's
your new name. So so let'stalk Let's talk about that. Let's talk
about their beliefs and stuff like,because to me, it's fascinating with every
culture how they perceived things. Now, before we go into that, I
want to say that, like,I did a lot of study with the

(01:06:27):
Egyptian UM belief system as well aswhat they had, and they had a
lot of pictographs and so on andso forth UM on their walls as well,
except some of them seem to havebeen of the future, right right,
Yeah, So go ahead. Imean, but that's isn't isn't it

(01:06:48):
possible that they were seeing future thingsjust as um. Who the heck was
it? Um nostrodamus, nostre damasand um. But there was also the
inventor that also oh my gosh,she was also the painter of the um

(01:07:13):
Mona Lisa, right you talking aboutDa Vinci. Vinci made a winged vehicle
that yeah, carry people in itsbelly right, and see they could be
they could be some type of youknow, looking into the future. But
what I find is even the indigenouspeople of North America, their stories were

(01:07:36):
either told down as in stories aroundthe bonfire or a fire at night,
or they were actually um a shell, each shell meant something, every stone
meant something, so their beads andso their stories were passed on and other
things as well. And you weren'ttold a lot of the intricate parts of
it, but you were just toldthe story, and it was for you

(01:07:59):
to figure out where that story meantto you what, you know, what
we're supposed to do with it.So you know, it's it's it's strange,
but it's true. It's great thatwe were able to get some of
that stuff. Oh yeah, yeah. Could you imagine us without history?
Oh goodness, Well, we wouldn'tbe learning any lessons, I'll tell you
that much. We keep repeating,you know, well we're still repeating that.

(01:08:24):
Yeah, yeah, why can't Ilearn? Yeah? Uh, younga,
this is not a psychic show towhere you can get answers. Um.
Just to let you know, Um, I had a post here,
uh from South Africa. My wifewas told she will receive a lot of

(01:08:45):
money this September, but she wasn'ttold where the money was coming from or
when in September. She keeps dreamingabout it, so maybe that's what she
needs to do, is keep dreaming, because maybe she might get a piece
of that in her dreams. Becausewe do find that sometimes your dreams have
answers that once in a while cometrue. Yep, so yeah, they

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can feed you is a dream yourheart mate, when your bestest. Oh,
this is this is interesting too.Um. Yes, I'm wondering if
I'm traveling while I'm awake, shitgets strange. That's actually an interesting thing.

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And well, since we're going intoJudaism, that's actually an interesting point.
Uh. In Judaism, there areactually five parts of the soul.
I'll only talk about three because theother two you start getting into Kabbalah and
it's it's very very complicated, andI am not trained enough to speak on
such matters. Um. The firstone, it's the nfsh that is the

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life force that enters your body,um, which we would call our soul,
our spirit. Um. There isthe rock that is your emotional state,
your feelings, where the warm fuzziescome from, and then you have
your innishama, your nishama as yourintellect, your mind, your thoughts.
Now, in Judaism, it's abeautiful thing because every time you go to

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sleep at night, you travel,your soul leaps, because sleeping is a
fraction of death. That is,the closest you will ever get to death
while you're living is when you're asleep. And the deeper the sleep, the
closer you are to death. Sowhat happens is is that the soul detaches.
Now, there's lots of things thatthey say. Because another thing that

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Judy is you could think is theghost you might be seeing might not be
somebody dead interesting because their soul leftthem. Now there's a joke. It's
that your soul. We're not ajoke, but there's a story that the
soul runs up, it goes toGod and it says, do you know
what, like if my soul leaps, do you know what Lacrosse did last

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night? I'm gonna tell you whathe did. He did this, he
did that. You rat yourself out, You rat yourself out, you're just
annie did this and he did that, and you decide whether whether he should
wake up tomorrow or not. I'mhere waiting, you know. And then
the thing is is if you wakeup okay, the divine said, okay,

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you got another chance, but getit right today. So every time
you wake up that that's another chance. But what's so interesting is since it's
so close to death, your soulwill leave. Now they believe that if
you don't say certain prayers, that'swhen well, it's not so much like
because people get into the whole demonsand angels. And I want to clarify

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this. With the demon and angelsin Judaism, they're not bad or evil.
They're neutral. They have no freewill. They do what they're told.
Some of them just have good jobsand some of them have really shitty
jobs, okay, And that's whatit boils down to with the whole demon
and angels. So when people arelike, ah, that you know this
demon and this and that, andno, he just has a shitty job.

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He doesn't feel anything for you.He doesn't hate you, he doesn't
love you. He is completely neutral, and so is the angel. And
that's what people can't grasp around becausethe first thing they're thinking is oh my
angel, my guardian angel. No, that's his job. His job is
to guard you. He doesn't loveyou, he doesn't even like you.
It's job, you know. Ido definitely want to clarify that. You

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know that, No, but thatis perfect. That is a perfect way
to explain it, because think aboutit this way. One of the things
that I teach is that when youhave intuition coming through the way, you
can tell that it's intuition and notego. Is because there's an absence of
emotion. Ye, that's how youknow it's intuition is because there's no emotion

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involved, right, right, andso and so I clarify that to people
because I tell people, you know, it's like the whole thing with the
devil. They're like, oh,the devil's evil. The devil is not
evil. Devil fell from heaven.The devil did not fall from heaven.
Okay, First off, the devilis Hassatan. Hassatan was an angel.
He has a shitty job. Hisjob is to tempt you. If I
say him and I go to you, take this, take this stake,

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this stake, this that's my job. It doesn't make me bad. Who's
the bad person the one who takesit, not the one who gives it
so, so now I can moveforward on to the whole thing with the
soul. Okay so um. Sobasically what happens is when the body dies

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okay and Judaism, we're taught withina day, we're buried because not all
of your soul has left, becauseyou have five levels, there are five
pieces to your soul. One ofthem stays behind. That's why they're against
cremation, because they said, you'redead, but you still that part of
your soul still still feels. Theydon't believe in filling your body with um.

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What is it they do embombing becausenow you're taking longer to decompose,
and that part of the soul cannotleave. So what happens is that they
bury right away now if it does. Now, what happens is the longer
the body stays attached to the physicalworld, the more aggressive it will become.

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Like it is with the natives.It becomes very aggressive to the point
it becomes bitter, it becomes resentfulbecause it can't move on. And then
there are some that they die andthey don't want to let go with a
physical world because they love it hereso much. And some of them don't
move on because they feel they didn'tdo everything right that they were supposed to

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and they have to make some sortof penance. Hence that's where ghosts come
from in Judaism. And so whenthey can't make right, that's when we
start getting into the complications. Idon't know if you know what the book
is. The book is a spiritthat will attach to an object. Yes

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you never heard about the book box? Yes, yes, yeah, it's
that's a the book And what happensis this and and it we since we
believe everything is living, Like Isaid, I don't want to be a
rock, you know, because thebook can attach itself to a rock forever

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unless and the whole point that theyattached themselves onto these things is for the
mere purpose of being to be utilizedand used so that they can let go
and then go into the next life. But what happens when that object doesn't
get used? And like they hadsaid, the whole story about the the

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book box from the from the Holocaustum and it ended up like almost destroying
families because the book gets aggressive.You can't have a rabbi come do an
exorcism on a the book because hedoesn't know what that is it has to
be a rabbi to come because therabbi knows what what's going on here.

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So yeah, so that's that's anotherthing. And that's where the whole stories
of ghosts and lost and wandering souls. And that's weird because you know they
talk about they talk about that alot. In fact, just the past
few years, they came out withthe horror stories of the Dubic Box and
you know how they say it,you know, dubuk like you said or
whatever. But um, you know, it's funny how one culture's item or

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belief is misconscrewed into somebody else's.Yeah, you know. It was the
same with the development of like theLuigia board, which was actually a talking
uh plan chat originally and then theyturned it into a board which you know,
wenten fueled, and then it becameParker Brothers. Then it was sold

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as a st and the belief thateverybody's like, oh, it's so evil,
it's so evil, it's so evil. So it's like, it depends
on your view of it, Itdepends on your belief and uma everywhere though,
because there's so many different religions andfaiths and cultures that were that were
doomed and destroyed because of other people'sbeliefs. And also a book, the

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book like everybody looks into possession.Oh yeah, book the book can attach
a stuff to someone who is veryweak and literally start controlling the body because
they need a body. See,in our belief system, we don't have
a body with the soul. Wehave a soul with a body. That's
why when you see a ghost thatmanifests as a human, because it was

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a soul first, they'd already hadthat form before it came into the physical
body. So we're not a soulwith a body where I mean, we're
not a body with a soul.We're a soul with a body. So
what happens is is when that's thatsoul needs something that it can enter,
so it can actually enter into aweak person. We are the ultimate parasite.

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I done. Yeah, pretty much, Okay, But I have a
question I have to say, right, I have to say something. I
think that the intention, or whetherit was going back to the widge board,
I think the intention is what haschanged. Right if if in the

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mass production of a toy and theintention was to scare people or to make
them believe that they're contacting the dead, and that it's they're going to contact
somebody or something. That was theintention set for the whole you know,
marketing, the whole making of it. So when you have that, it

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can create an instant portal for allof those things. Right right, let's
see, I think I do understand, but but you are not a portal
person, right, I'm not.But but this is still one of those
things that, like I said before, it's like what because that was developed
by the Chinese, so that wasa culture that developed something. Then it

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came here and then you know theAmericans, you know, we took it
and did whatever with it, bastardizedit. Yeah, so so you know,
so it's one of the things.But it's not a different than like
the Bible, because some people don'tbelieve the Bible either there and they don't
believe the words. And you know, it's what we as human beings do.

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We take something that we don't understandor we don't even want to try
to understand, and we bastardize it, right right, and and and and
the core the core thing will alwaysbe the same thing. It's we fear
what we don't understand. Exactly andyou think of that that process there,

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like even with the Ouiji board.Okay, one thing I do want to
mention, does the Uiji board powerhave power? I doubt it. We
do. And what we everything wespeak, we feel, everything comes out,
everything goes into that universe. Ibelieve in very karmic things. So
if you're putting negative out there andyou're fucking around with something you don't know

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and then you get negative back,you caused it. You caused it.
There's one common denominator and that's you, you know, And I think that's
where a lot of these things happenis. And it's not that it was
all this gym and that possessed theLuigi board or anything. No, you
were fucking with something you didn't know. Sorry, my bad. You were
messing around with something you didn't know. We'll see. Here's the thing.

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If you look at your if youyou can even you can even like start
watching all their movies because some ofthe truths are in there. It's like,
you know, back in the day, Um, I'm talking way back.
You know, cultures had sears,they had magicians, they had people
that talk to the dead, thatwas their job. They got yeah,

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they got That's how they got paidme. And these people were skilled this
way, they were taught from somebodyelse how to do this. So for
a mass production of something like theWegi board, just to put out there,
if you have no training, ifyou don't know what this is really
for, you're messing with something youdon't know. But at the same time,

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it's a belief. You have tobelieve that thing's going to work and
that the thing has power. Ifyou don't believe that, you know what
I mean? And I was alwaystaught that the Weigia board, even though
I know where it came from,and so on and so forth, it
was never the board that carried thepower. It was the person running or
controlling the board that had power.And in most cases you had to be

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a medium, a psychic, orsomebody's spiritual, really intently spiritual to make
anything like that work. And youknow, it's not a ship. Do
you know how many people used totake a little shot glass and put that
on the table with just regular playingcards with letters and numbers and the same
thing. But that was done longbefore the board leaving came around, right

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right, you know? Absolutely?Um Karen says it's not belief, it's
intention, right, and you knowwhat that's part of it too. Yes
you are Wait didn't I didn't Ialready talk. YEA pendulum responds to us.
They can show us how we canuse our consciousness. I don't know.
I'm not I'm not with pendulums.I think that I'm being inflicked whatever

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we want with the pendulum. I'vewatched people go, oh, I don't,
I don't move it at all.I have watched people move a pendulum
and then go and tell people asthough it is something from the other And
I'm the science. I'm the sciencepart of that. It's the electrical impulses

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in our wrist and our hands,fingers and so on and so forth that
can make that stuff move. Right. But the thing is is I think
that there is the possibility of itcoming through spirit to be brought out.
However, it's the human that it'sthe problem, because when they're moving it.
I have a problem with that.And that's why we Teddy's book,

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Think outside the paranormal box. Youwere actually you took the banana hangar,
you put the pendulum on the bananahangar. Then you start asking questions because
the human interaction is gone out ofit. It loves then Okay, so
will it record it and send itto me, you know, because I'd
love to see it. You know. It's the same with the dozing rods,

(01:23:27):
right right, yeah, right?I think when we were talking,
good, I just know that Doccan't be seen so everybody on Facebook can
see. But Doc said, I'veregularly been seen in the houses of friends
and family when I'm traveling during sleepor waking. It was to go back
to wild Yeah, yeah, mysister. I've literally had three people come

(01:23:51):
to me within less than a weekand tell me that I have been in
their dreams or or I have beenwith them right during the night, right
right, people in the same dayeven right Going to say what I was
gonna say is is that we ourhuman minds are powerful and sometimes what we

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want whether we whether we're supposed toget it or not, or we see
what we want. Like I loveTarot cards because tarot cards, we could
all have the same cards and wecan all see different things. The reason
we see different things, this iswhat our mind needs to see. Because

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I always believe we have all theanswers in us. We have it it's
a matter of when is it awakened, when are we aware of it?
You know. So if I sitthere and I do a spread of Tarot
cards, I already know what itis. That's why when I read it
and I'm like, hmmm, damn, yeah, I should really listen to
that, be I already knew right, it's already there. But the whole

(01:24:53):
point is that sometimes we need thatsmack in the face, whether it's a
Tarot card or life's circumstances, tosay, wake up, you already know
this. What are you doing?Jesus? Get your shit together? You
know. So I think that's that'syou know, we're we're very powerful in
our minds that we will create andbuild this whole thing that we want,
whether we where, whether it's goodfor us or not. Yes, well,

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and then believe it came from God. Well you know what is that?
As like seven to nine percent ofour brain is what we actually use,
I mean, and that's it.Yeah. You know, there is
a strong belief that especially with theEgyptians and those cultures, they used more
of their brain. There were somuch far, so far ahead of us
and intelligence that even the magic wasstill back then that all of this stuff

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was real and that we've dummified overthe hears, Yeah, pretty much instead
of evolving the other way. Yeahwell but yeah, yes, we devolved.
But but think about it this way. I mean, we also supposedly
lived for hundreds of years when wewere humans, and as we have,

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as we have changed and things,you know, we are spending less time
each incarnation on this planet or otherplanets. Right. I just think it's
I just think it's weird. Imean, you know, we we use
people as in humans, we wethink about so many things, specially fantasy.
Fantasy. It was one of thebiggest things with people. And you

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know, if you don't have thatshut off valve to know, hey,
this is real, this is afantasy, this is real, this is
fantasy. Um. It's said thatsomewhere within that fantasy and that shut off
valve, there's magic that we learnedto shut it off and now we don't
know how to turn it back on. Right right, I would have had

(01:26:44):
it surprises. That want surprises.I want to surprise me. Um.
Yeah. I think it's funny becausein Judaism there was back then we were
the people of miracles. Uh thattwo thousand years ago, And it was
so funny. I actually had adebate with Christian and they were like,
um, well, why didn't youbelieve in Jesus? And I'm like,

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because you're talking about a people whowere the people of miracles. So Jesus
walking on the water wasn't a bigdeal. Everybody walked, they were the
people of miracles. Jesus healing thesick wasn't a big deal to us because
it was a commonplace. So whywould we sit here and take this guy
and say he's our messiah when everybodywas doing it. So it was you

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know, And and it's so sadbecause you look at that and we're talking
scriptures. Also a lot of peopledon't understand what they read is such a
watered down version of what was actuallywritten because you cannot translate the language.
Yes, some of that was translatedincorrectly. Oh absolutely, absolute they have.

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Literally it was humans writing these thingsand putting it in and taking out.
I mean literally, Um, itwas a comic book from way back
when. In some sense it wasyou know what I mean, it really
was. It was it was literature. It was just something to read the
past the time. It maybe itwas a soap opera printed. But if

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you ever noticed, I mean,the interesting thing of the Hebrew language is
it's not just a language in aphonetic language. It's numbers, chimatria and
a lot of the things that wereprophesie. If you did the numbers right,
you'd see, oh my god,that's actually happening, and it said

(01:28:38):
when it was going to happen,and things like that. There's that,
there's the seven levels of understanding,which you go from basic to Kabbalah,
and then there's also the translation whicha Jew translated it to King James.
What was that I'm looking into thethere's more letters if you like English can't

(01:29:00):
handle the content. Yeah, exactlyexactly. That makes total sense. So
what I was saying is constantinople.I mean, they have shown that there
are references in the Bible of reincarnation. If you if you think about it,
there was there is a passage that'sthat relates to a person and they're
saying you knew him. He formallywas known as Moses, right. I

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mean, this is they speak ofreincarnation in the Bible, they just don't
like bring it up and make sure. But all there's only two references still,
well, one of them is thataut reincarnation. They actually they didn't
they didn't take it out. Theydidn't take it's there. It's just not

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try it's not okay, we're givenup. I've talked about it specifically,
that you can live again those words. That's That's what I'm trying to explain
it. We're given one hundred andtwenty years. Okay, after the fall,
we were given one hundred and twentyyears. What happens when somebody only
lives sixty, they still got sixtymore to go. What happens when somebody

(01:30:05):
only lives five They still have onehundred and fifteen to go? So what
happens? They have to come backuntil they have reached that one hundred and
twenty max. And then it's anoptionist to whether you want to come back.
That's actually in the Old Testament.It's in Genesis. We are given
one hundred and twenty years. That'swhat I was trying to explain it.
It's there, it's right under yournose. It's just people don't know how

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to interpret it. It's right there. So and a lot of it is
like I said, and people don'tunderstand Moses didn't just write the tour.
He wrote the Five Books of Moses. He actually wrote a commentary. That's
what people I don't want to readbecause that's where you get your mind all
screwed up. So but and there'sa reason for it. And that's why.

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If you notice in Judaism we onlyfollow the five Books of Moses,
that's it. Yep, he's gotHe died at fifty, so he'll be
back for another seventy and he betterbe as good as he was. Hu
Karen says, reincarnation. There's anew thing after the fall. Yeah,

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so our guys. But like Isaid, a lot of a lot of
that is it's all misinterpretation, it'sall and once again, people read what
they want to read, and theysee what they want to see, and
they believe what they want to believe. Yeah, yeah, that down to
and that's what That's why I thinkit's interesting when you look at different cultures
and their belief systems. There aresome common threads. There are some things

(01:31:32):
that are very much the same,they're just described differently. Um, but
there are some things that in someface that are like way out there and
you're like whoa, yeah, scientology, there you go scientology. So there's
there's a lot of stuff anybody butno, but there is. But if

(01:31:56):
I want to sci fi to becomemy religion, I'll follow. You.
Look at some of these other umwhat did they call them? They call
them um um. Texas had onea few years back. Um where they
follow a leader, yes, thecult, the culture, yes, and
they follow a belief of somebody thatmay just be looney, which we've known,

(01:32:20):
you know, but it's their beliefsystem that other people are comfortable enough
to take on. But I thinkit's people like that that just prey on
people who are a uneducated understands.They don't have, They're ignorant, they're
scared, they want something to believein. They want they want acceptance.

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That's why people fall for these thingsall the time. The day out you
have to there's you know, lacrosse. For years, especially in the seventies,
sixties and seventies, there was thewhole belief of aliens and so people
were worshiping alien life forms instead ofyou know, the gods that most of
us knew a right. I mean, then with that whole belief, oh
that they're gonna come down and saveus, I've talked to this this alien

(01:33:05):
and this alien and this version ofthat alien, and I'm like, God,
what do you guys? Exactly?Yeah, you know, I mean
bring a piote over here if that. Yeah, exactly. It's like,
hey, a little bit of whatyou're doing. I want to talk to
an alien? Yeah, I justdon't want to get probe what about?
What about? According to Cookie,they don't do that anymore? Okay,

(01:33:28):
all right, well they're not supposedto anyway. Yeah. Yeah, well
I know, there you go.But all right, so guys, if
you've got any questions in there,let's get these questions in. Um.
It looks like we have just abouttwenty five minutes. UM. But I'd
like to get to some of thesequestions for Lacrosse or US so on and

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so forth down the line. Um. So you know, but I'm gonna
go up to Cindy because I wantto kind of probe her mind a little.
Yeah. So, Cindy bean wickanum having the faith within the pagan
culture. Um, she talks abouton many occasions, you've talked about the

(01:34:14):
gods in the in the spirits andwhat you talked to and or who you
talk to. I should say umwho I talked to kind of kind of
it's right, so kind of explaina little bit of what your belief system
is with stuff like that and withyour pagan culture, I guess, so
you know what I mean, Apagan believes in a We're not monotheistic,

(01:34:39):
right, we're polytheistic. So thething is is that I grew up,
I was I was brought up.I was never baptized or anything like that.
However, um we I always hadLike my mom was Methodist and so
I always went to the Methodist church. To this day, I still love

(01:35:00):
going to midnight Mass on Christmas Eve. It's a beautiful ceremony. My aunt
and uncle used to take us toBaptist churches and all these things when I
was young. I remember being fourteenand nobody could answer the questions that I
had. So I left the churchand organized Western religion. But the thing

(01:35:25):
is is I always had a connectionto whatever that was out there, right,
So my thought process has evolved overthe years. Like I always believe
that Jesus, God, whatever MotherMary were still deities, right, However,
they were just a deity of Westernculture right as my Egyptian side isis

(01:35:49):
is my mother right, But thenI also have Hecade right, and I
also have Pelee from the Hawaiian culture. I'm very eclectic in what I believe.
However, on Taro Tuesdays, Iliterally have done my Taro readings and
stuff. But what I do isI started off, I look in my
comments and then we do what Icall roll call. Roll call is who

(01:36:13):
is in the house, right,and it's literally everybody has come to see
me. I mean, I haveancient gods and goddesses that come in from
ancient Assyria, you know. Ihave some that I don't understand who they
are because there are no words ornames that I can put in human terms

(01:36:34):
to tell who they are. Ihave Jesus here, I have the Morgan,
I have Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter. I have all of them.
That way, I have Norse gods, I have Egyptian gods. I have
Buddha, you know. So it'sit's a huge collective mix. But one

(01:36:57):
of the things that they have talkedto me about, and of the reasons
that they all don't mind coming tome, is because I have all put
them basically on the same level playingfield, right that I believe that they
all have and serve their own purposes. Muhammad was here last Tuesday, because
it last Tuesday or the Tuesday before. I mean, so, I mean,

(01:37:17):
I have things that I don't knowor understand, and I just allow
them to come through, right withknowledge and understanding that only the highest and
the best is allowed here. It'sit's it's only the highest and the best
that's allowed here. And I havealiens that come in visit, not just

(01:37:40):
one race. I have this plethoraand they like to come in through the
ceiling because they just like to freakme out. But it's it's just it's
I have a bunch of people.So when I think of religion or a
thing like that, it's it's justthis this beauty of differences that are all

(01:38:01):
the same, right right, that'sfunny. A lot of people will a
lot. Now Christianity is technically amonotheistic religion, and so is Judaism.
But I do always want to makea point to people. Um, God,
okay told the Jews, you shallhave no other gods before me.

(01:38:24):
That's all he said. Now,why would he say that if he didn't
feel that there were other beings inexistence? Exactly? The only reason because
you, right, so, butthen it did not know because they didn't
want to. They didn't want to. You don't see. Okay, when
is a Jew ever knocked on yourdoor and say I want to give you

(01:38:44):
the good news. I'll wait enough. It never happened. It never happened
because they're not out to convert anybody. The whole thing was because they knew
that all these other cultures had theirgods. But he but if you're going
to follow this path, then thisis the god you have to choose.

(01:39:05):
He just said, just don't putthem before me. I didn't say you
couldn't hang with him. I didn'tsay you couldn't talk to him. I
just said, don't put them first. That's all I said. And I
think when when and once again mistranslation, people are saying, oh, it's
a monotheistic religion. God said,you're you're an idol worship. They don't.
He just said, don't put anythingbefore me, that's all he asked.

(01:39:27):
Well, just take that real quickand think about Greek gods. Think
about what Greek gods. Oh,Greek gods. Yes, yes, yes,
okay, so we all know whothe main man was, right it?
So yeah, hero, there yougo. So I mean, there's

(01:39:48):
so many different gods out there,and they all have well like for myself,
my belief with my indigenous culture andthen my you know, the pagan
culture with with with the wicks sidewith having that. Um, you know,
different gods for different things, youknow what I mean. Um,

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we're very collected. Just like Cyindia. I'm able to call on whoever I
need at the time. But theindigenous people were the same way. They
can't. They called on the godsthat they needed for what was happening in
their life. Exactly. Yes,okay, so to the eastern religion of
that, to the west is prettymuch yes, it's pretty much on the
level. But Zeus never said thatI'm the only god. In fact,

(01:40:32):
when the transcendent of other gods likeJesus and you know and all that stuff,
they just went back to the mountainand they sat back there, and
they're still sitting there. You know, they're still sitting there. Okay,
let's him up. I'll be hereall week. Yeah, I'm here till

(01:40:56):
Thursday. Try to feel up.He's like all those togas. Hello,
come on, listen, think aboutit this way. I mean, I'm
just gonna go a little off topicbecause it's literally like Polly Amory has been
on my brain lately. So youthink back to to the to them,

(01:41:19):
the Greeks and the Roman they totallydid not believe in in in mono relationships,
right right, I mean and andsame sex um things were a thing.
Right. Oh, I know,I believe that culture, trust me.

(01:41:40):
But the thing is is that itwas not frowned upon until Christianity came
around. Okay, now know whatyou just said. You didn't say Judaism
Christianity. And that's for a reasonexactly because the lie in bad with men.
Yeah yeah, listen, you judgmentalbitches yourself in Judaism, if you

(01:42:04):
can afford more than one wife,you can have more than one wife,
but you better afford it. Youbetter be able to take care of her.
You know, it's that was avery common practice hip your waitress.
But be that as it may.I mean, I think all of them
come to the whole same conclusion.We all die and there's something else,

(01:42:27):
right, And that's what what whatI think is is fascinating. They all
have a creation story, they allhave a flood story, they all have
a death story. They all havea next life story and that's that's and
they all look, let's add tothat, they all have quest they all
have there there's so much and moralsto the stories. And there's always a

(01:42:50):
bad and there's always a good.There's always something in there. And that's
what I like about people that youknow, want to put one faith against
another. You think you're any different, right, everybody has that. Like
I said before, when you said, when you sit down and you study
theology, one of the main thingsthat you're going to learn is that there
is a thread between all of themthat makes them the same. Right,

(01:43:13):
That's what you walk away one ofus to this day. Right, Go
and be a demonologist, Go bea priest, go do whatever you want
to do. All I ask isyou really do your research and educate yourself
because there is so much out therethat people don't understand. But I can
tell you why judging each other.That's what I say. My other on

(01:43:35):
my end with having both cultures thatI've looked into my whole life, paganism
and the indigenous people versus the Easternphilosophy of you know, when we came
over from England or wherever to howwe came from or Ireland or the Netherlands,
the beliefs system from Africa Africa.But even though they're all different,

(01:43:59):
they're all the same. Yeah,we have all those things. I mean,
I love the fact that Egyptians,Egyptians, you know, they believed
in aliens. They believe that therewas something else besides themselves. Yeah.
Absolutely, It's pretty arrogant for usto think we're it. That's so look
at the indigenous people that say,yeah, Bigfoot's real. We we have

(01:44:20):
their area, we have our area. We always had a wave of you
know, like something I'm saying,Hey, you don't go over there,
right, Yeah, no, that'sright. I love what Doc says.
He says, and the death rightis ancient aliens, even though now today
they're saying some of it, likethe Egyptian stuff they said, they're they're

(01:44:42):
saying now that it wasn't it wasn'taliens that built the pyramids. They're saying
it was other things now, soyou know, start looking that up,
folks. It is possible that theydid it by themselves humans as possible.
Yeah, so did they Racism languages? I don't know. I don't either.

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I wasn't there, Honestly, ifI was. If I was there
back then, I was either drinkingsomething that I shouldn't have or smoking something
that I shouldn't have. I wasprobably off in some corner trying to figure
out what am I going to weartoday that looks or I was in one

(01:45:26):
of the Greek I was in oneof the Greek rooms with all the different
you know. Yeah, everybody jumpedat a big bile. You know,
I love that word. I lovethat word. That was close to corgy.
It's a dog anyway, No norno orgies. Oh no, oh

(01:45:50):
man, bad image, bad imageimage leaved a little heart butt buddies alone,
you know, coming back, comingback and stirring us back here for
the last couple of minutes of theshow. You know, I love when
people shun other people because of theirbeliefs. I love it because I love

(01:46:12):
to go right up to them andsay, who the hell are you?
Yeah, yeah, you wanted you. You know, you used to see
those you used to see those bumperstickers. Used to see those bumper stickers
that said, my Carma ran overyour dogma. You know, you know
it's like, yeah, um mywitch turned your god into a bowl of

(01:46:34):
soup, right, you know,I mean, there was stuff like that.
It's like, you know, oh, he turned them into a frog.
Um. To me, it's alwaysbeen an I'd like to argue with
them, only because I like todebate him off. Yeah, and and
because the whole thing is that Isat there and my my end of the
thing is, it's like I said, my people have studied this for a
thousands and thousands of years. Wouldyou listen to my They they've studied.

(01:46:59):
That's how they do studies, thatstudy from morning till night. But you
figured it out in three years ata seminary. Thank you, Thank you,
Thank you. Did you did yousee did you see Roberts coming?
Yes, don't forget the big greatbelief the real big great beliefs like hot

(01:47:21):
massage right there. But you know, we started at the show talking about
superstitions, about things that are said, and um, you know, there's
just so many things out there thatI think people need to stop belittling each
other and start learning from each other, right and and taking in right,

(01:47:45):
Yeah, take into the culture.I mean, I I for the first
time in the past and it's notbecause I'm racist, but I had never
hung out with a Puerto Rican before. So I had I had no idea
what Christmas was to them. Somy friend Frankie said, oh, you
gotta come here, and I'm likewhat. Then I get over there and

(01:48:06):
I have coquito and I'm just like, this is the greatest fucking drink in
the world, you know, whichI can make that bang and just letting
you know. Okay, Well,but you know, it's like there's there's
so many things that they do infood. Oh my god, you'll never
go hungry, never go home,yep, yep. I mean I was
kind of bummed out when I figuredout I was Jewish because I always grew

(01:48:28):
up doing the Christmas thing I hatehummus. Yeah, it's okay, it's
okay. I don't think I don'tyou know, I felt the fish one.
Yeah, but but I still actuallyhold onto those traditions even though I'm
you know, right, But it'sfunny, beautiful Yea. What I was
gonna say was is that hanging outwith them and that was frank and Tatiana,

(01:48:53):
was that um their belief system withsears, with people that could tell
the few future. Yeah, itwas so interesting. It was so it
was very very enlightening and when youcan sit down with them and actually,
you know, tell them something thatyou know and they're like, how do
you know that? Right? Right? You know, and you know what

(01:49:19):
you can do right right. Butthere was no backlash, there was no
nothing. It was just, hey, we're welcoming you here to our home.
Um, we're gonna get your shipfaced on on something you've never had
before, and we're gonna feed you. So you're fat and I'm like,
where were you? Where were youfifty years ago? But you know,

(01:49:39):
but learning that stuff is great becauseeven when you go to like the reservation
to you know your family there oryou you know, it's like, I've
never been to the Netherlands, butI have family there and I would love
to know what their culture is andwhat they believe and what they eat.
And I don't do like they theyyou know, I have fear of their
sausages and so their meats because ofwhere it actually came from. Right And

(01:50:02):
I'm not even gonna get into itbecause disgusting to me. But they don't
waste anything over there, right theyright, So I will eat American sausage
versus the sausage over there. Sorry, um, but I just I love
old fairy tales. I love oldum, just old things that people say,

(01:50:28):
like we were raised with Hey,uh, I got that a lot
when I would tedding you behave yourselfor I'll slap you around like that spit
on a door handle. You're likewhat, yeah, you know. But
the just little sayings that are saidto you when you're growing up, and
you wonder, like I said whenI when I opened up saying they threw

(01:50:48):
salt over their shoulder, why don'tyou want to know why? It's bad
luck? It's bad luck. Youdon't walk underneath the ladder, you don't
let a black cat cross in frontof you. Some of us believe that's
good luck. Yeah. The yes, I have my kitty, my black
kitty that crosses my path all dayevery day, and I'm like, thank
you, buddy. You know thatwhole thing where everybody's like, oh,

(01:51:09):
Friday thirteenth is bad, but guesswhat Friday thirteenth is awesome for me.
It's Saturday that's terrible for me.Right. I think the beauty of it
all is that you end up realizinghow much history is preserved. It's just
reservation, and each culture had somuch to preserve and to give. You

(01:51:32):
know, the problem is as ifeverybody would have been so open to embrace
it, we wouldn't have had allthe genocides that we did, you know,
right right, So there wouldn't havebeen a holocaust, There wouldn't have
been genocide of the indigenous people.None of that would have happened if they
would have just embraced it. Whenthey came over, they saw that my

(01:51:53):
people showered, would bathe three timesa day. They called the savages because
we bathed h and you know,it's it's it's sad, it's just very
sad. But instead of embracing,which what they end up doing years later,
they ended up embracing it because theyrealized for hygienic reasons, infections and
this, and that they had tostart washing their hands, they had to

(01:52:15):
start cleaning and their feet and theirfeet, and then they couldn't knew you
knew this four hundred years ago?What the hell's wrong with you? You
know? Yeah? Yeah, itjust it shows you where we lack in
intelligence sometimes, yeah, and whywe waited so long, yeah you all.
I mean, I hate to saythis, but Greece, Greek baths,

(01:52:36):
they knew what they were doing overthere and gene was everything. It
certainly was certain. So Karen says, a lot of people now are h
I gotta put it it. Teethsmoving on me. A lot of people
are recommending not meditating with a thirdeye anymore, instead used fourth eye or
others call it the fish eye.M fish way is the center first there

(01:53:03):
is all. Yeah, I see, I've never all of this with you
guys. Oh, I actually haven'theard of this to be I've not heard
of the fourth eye or magyar.You mentioned it earlier, and I have
to research. To be honest,I'm putting it on my list right now.
I love it. Robert. It'slike, oh, they're not stinky,

(01:53:25):
Let's get rid of them dumbasses.There are several religious institutions I have
tried. Mormons scare me. Yeah. Anybody who's gonna knock on somebody else's
door, I think is rude.That's it. I don't care what you
are. If you're knocking on people'sdoor, you're rude. You're in it's
the middle of the day, it'sa Saturday. They were probably partying the

(01:53:45):
night before. You rude. Don'tshow up. They probably have a hangover.
Well, I mean I've had.They stopped coming to my house.
Of course that's where Lacrosse goes to. It's a hangover, you know,
you don't. No, they stoppedcoming because the last time they ended up
coming to my house they knocked in. I'm Jewish, and they're like,
well Jesus with Jewish, Well good, you can keep them. Can I

(01:54:08):
go to bed now? I literallyso when I lived in my parents' house
with my daughter, Um, whatthe heck are they called that would come
to the house all the yes,thank you, the Jehovah witnesses would come
and he drove me crazy, andI just had had it. I was
a witch at the time, Soinstead, what did I do? Because

(01:54:30):
I knew they had a little listwith the houses and who had what?
So I said, um, listen, I'm I'm a devil worshiper. They're
like what I said, Yes,I worshiped Satan. They're like what,
and they're like, can we pleasecome in and talk to you? I
said no, I really enjoyed Satanand I enjoy what I do. Please
please don't come back. They literallyhave never come back, and probably my

(01:54:56):
daughter had to been a couple ofyears old. This is twenty years.
That list is fervently axed for myparents house. Ye yeah, I said,
do you know how hard I workedfor these demons? Do you have
any idea how hard I worked forthese I had a friend um college.
His end, it was the beststory in the world. Was the way

(01:55:18):
he got them to stop cooming washe took a prosthetic arm and he actually
wrapped stuff around it so it lookedlike it was raw meat. So when
they came to the door, heputs some in his mouth and the blood
and he goes, I'm a cannibal. I don't believe, but I do
need some more outdoors. You know. I'd be running at that point and

(01:55:42):
be like, okay. So theother thing. I live in Wayne County,
New York. Guess where Mormonism started. Yeah, right down the street
from you called Pyra, New York. It's about twenty minutes away south of
me. And that's where the hillis in everything where I literally live in

(01:56:06):
Mormon country where John John Smith orJohn John Smith and Hill Kamera is where
he supposedly at all this information.However, it was a story that was
written and John Smith took it andmade it a religion as well, just

(01:56:27):
so you guys know the more youknow, how the other good part about
that? What's that? What elseis in Pelmier in New York? Satanism?
M hmmm, Satanism they live sideby side. Oh wow, that
is something else. Yes, I'llhang with the Satanists any day. I

(01:56:51):
hang with't won any day. They'reso like, so shitted on. It's
sad. Look, talk to talkto Kenny Biddle Hill tell yeah, because
he's met several and they're fantastic.Popyeah, they're amazing people. They what
people think they are, it's notwhat they are. Then I like doing
what everybody. Well, look thesame way they did that with the witches.

(01:57:13):
They burned them to the steak.Uh they waste all those steaks.
Hi, Jehovah blessed me with lotsof boobs. No, that's funny.
No, but seriously, so thethings, Uh, the thing is is
there was a sect of um ofthe Mormons who moved out to Salt Lake,

(01:57:33):
and then from there they had theydecided that it was okay for men.
Because you guys have to understand thatMormonism is really anti woman. It
is all pro man and what mancan do and what man can say,
not what women can do, andwomen can say. Listen, if you

(01:57:54):
want to divorce, you have toask the elders. A woman cannot just
divorce a man and she has nosay. If the husband says I'm not
beating her, she's not allowed toget a divorce. The elders then go,
oh, well, we have tolisten to what he said, you're
not being beaten, and then sheends up dead. Yeah, but that's

(01:58:15):
the point, Well they don't.Woman has no say, and not only
that, the woman has to listento these male elders, and I literally
cringe because they can stories. I'veheard stories where that if they thought that
you were promiscuous, or that youweren't a virgin, they would actually check

(01:58:39):
you. They had in your homeand stick their hands somewhere where they shouldn't
be sticking up. Hell no,it's it's it's really it's it's all about
men keeping women down. That's whatthat religion is all about. But if
they check, if they really checked, the civilizations long for that, there

(01:59:00):
was plenty of female races that werein charge, and the men were not
you're indigenous people, Oh yeah,you're indigenous people. The women were in
charge. And a lot of thosecultures, Yep, matriarchal society. Exactly,
archical society. There was no Yeah, you had a chief, but
he didn't make no decisions. Helook at the ladies. They say yes,

(01:59:21):
yes, if they say no.Pay to this day, to this
day, our Native American culture isstill matriarchal. Run A chief is a
chief is not just because he wasborn into it. No, the women
are the ones that make the decisions. Yeah, and your heal people are

(01:59:45):
the same. It's the female.Now you look at your um Jesus,
some of your Italian families, it'sthe female that runs the households, not
the men. Yeah, you know, no, and you know it's it's
really funny how certain things are certainways. But as a culture today twenty
twenty one and now soon going tobe twenty twenty two, I'm very was

(02:00:11):
saying basically, don't drink spirits either. No, they can't drink coffee either.
They're not allowed to have caffeine.They're not allowed to drink alcohol,
and some sugars. They're not allowedto have some things with sugar enemy either.
I think I think it's also yeah, yeah, it'd be like being
a Torontosaurus rex and having small armsand not being able to do anything.

(02:00:31):
Oh man, I live in ahouse where human and baby sacrifice and every
kind of horror was done. That'swhat midst of my magnetic dances about healing
that. Oh interesting. Egypt wasa female led society until every at most
every place was matriarchal run until um, you know, you know, but

(02:01:00):
I can't say that all of allof the cultures that were that were ran
by man was bad because some ofthe female cultures, like the Amazon tribes
were they were very tough on men. They were used as breeders and breeders
only, and they were casting pagesand they were beaten. You know,
So there was a lot of things. Then, you guys, we can
still be praying mantises if you'd likethat. Oh no, I like being

(02:01:28):
true good. I like, yeah, you guys know, a female praying
mantis can kill a snake. Yes, yeah, I did not realize that
until recently. I mean I knewthey tore the head off of their partner
as they were now they will theywill eat anything they will, they will.

(02:01:49):
I thought that was amazing, Likean insect true story, snake true
story, true story, was hereactually, and I had here, and
I'm not familiar with her or herhistory. Did you know that Patra and

(02:02:09):
some of those other gods, Cleopatraand some of those other queens, I
guess I should say not gods,but queens. Um, they did a
lot with their male servants. Theythere was cases where they would make them
and sorry about the language, makethem jerk off in great big um copper
bowls or gold bowls, and theywould use that as moisturizer. Oh,

(02:02:30):
I believe it. I believe it, you know, And I mean it's
it's sorry, you know, that'sthat's some of this. It does have
a lot of proteins. Well itdoes, but it's just I'm sorry that
we've gone into that whole little thing. But but you know, it's just
I think, there you go.But going over all this, it's it's

(02:02:50):
just funny. Like I wanted thisto just be about the superstitions and the
beliefs of that, but and wegot into everything else. But you know
what, I'm okay with that.We had a good talk. We've discussed
a lot of things here and Ithink it's best that all of us remember
that we will continually learn. Yeah, we have to remember that we are
students of life, we are studentsof the earth. And don't everything that

(02:03:13):
you know everything, because something willchange in a split second. Yep.
Literally, It's it's about not beingjudgmental, right, it's being inclusive.
It's all about inclusivity. And itdoesn't matter whether it's religion, or sex,
or gender or anything else. It'sabout inclusivity. And it's about respecting.

(02:03:36):
Hey, every and everything. Theyjust respect each other. Just love
each other, because that's what justttysays, jump in a big pile.
Why not anyways, it's just aboutloving each other. It's all about love.
That's all. This whole entire thingis about his love. But that's
how the human that's how the humanrace is going to go to the next

(02:04:00):
level. And we're gonna we're gonnahave to to to embrace each other to
move on to the next level becausethere's no other place to go. I
mean as of right now. Imean, if you look at the things
from the past. We know we'vebeen lied to by the government. We
know that there's things from from fromcultures in the past that we're just now
finding out that we should have knownfive six hundred years ago, Um,

(02:04:24):
like Lacrosse was saying, and youknow, but there's so much that we
still have to learn. But itdoesn't have to be from educators. It
can be from your grandparents. Itcan be from your aunts or your uncles,
and it can also be from yournephew because they know things as well.
You know, you can see storytellersall the time. Yeah, if
you go your frayers, your carnivalsand stuff like that, they are still

(02:04:45):
out there. Oh yeah, youfind yourself a gypsy storyteller, Oh my
god God. And if you're anadult, they will give you some good
ship to drink to go with it. Yep. That's like Puerto Rico and
Puerto Rico they have the heat bottles. They're like the town criers. And
what they do is they sing andthey tell stories. My grandfather, yes,

(02:05:09):
and that's how how how all thestories we get told by through song?
Yeah, you haven't. You haveto learn and just learn any way
you can. But just remember thateverybody brings something to the table. And
I say that over and over andover again here in Paratok Radio. I
don't think I've said it more timesthan I want to. So you know,
Lacrosse. Thank you so much forcoming on here. We miss you.

(02:05:32):
You know you are so special tous. Thank you. I hope
you will always stay in touch withus and always be absolutely Are you still
with Hollis on Rainbow Soul though,Yeah, I do help Hollice with Rainbow
Soul right now, I just I'min a journey of learning. And it's
not that I'll never do interviews again. It's just I need right now for

(02:05:55):
my own spiritual path. I needto learn and I need so I'm just
sharing what I'm learning. I'm student, yeah, and I just and leave
it open for other people to tellme things because I don't want to be
closed off. I don't want tolive a life that's closed off. That.
But you're part of this family,just so you know, you're you're
you're never losing us. I mean, we're not going to let you go.

(02:06:16):
We're not going to let you.Yeah, we've got yeah, but
it's it's you know, and wantsto I don't know what direction it'll go.
I don't know what any direction is. You know, like you said,
it's always changing, So today itcould be this and next week.
You know, we we've got tofind time to get together and hug because
we didn't get to hug that oneday. I know, I know,

(02:06:40):
I was so upset life. Yeahyeah, we had this basic yeah yeah,
because I actually ended up with theDelta strand. Oh yeah, and
I'm like glad, I said,but I didn't want him to think that
he came and nobody would come.See. He was just saying, you

(02:07:00):
smell you stay over there, Isaid, I just I said, because
I said, it will be terrible. He's like he was only like an
hour and a half for me,or two hours. It was like two
hours for me. And I'm like, no, I gotta make the trip.
I gotta make the trip. Somy wife and I made the trip.
And yeah, I mean, Isaid, even though I can only
say high from here, but Ithink I missed you by two days.

(02:07:24):
Yeah, because I came on aon a Thursday or wait, no,
I don't know what day came,But where were you? You were coming
two days later? I was therea couple days earlier than you. Remember,
Why, So I missed you bytwo days Christie. Yeah, yeah,
And he's so he's so small andlook at him, it's like,

(02:07:45):
oh, it's like if I wasto pick him up. I feel bad
because I probably break something. Isaid, you know what, I just
looked taller and on camera I said, I'm only five three, but I
got six foot personality. Okay,bye bye, Karen, Thank you for
stopping by. Karen, Thank you. Yep. So as long as you

(02:08:05):
got big personality, that's most important. And I tell'm I just got to
be this tall to ride that ride. Okay, I'm just tall, that's
right. Well, you know,we really appreciate you coming by. Thank
you. This was important to meand an important to Cindy that we got
to see you. So yeah,yeah, you know, just stay in

(02:08:26):
touch each one of these days.Oh yeah, and keep me posted when
you are going to be in Gettysburg, because I mean, I still want
to head up there. I stillwant to hang out all that kind of
fun stuff. I don't know,maybe get on get in on on one
of those uh things. So yes, so cool. You usually really write

(02:08:46):
a book, by the way,with information that you have. People always
tell me that, and I justI've been people can tell me that for
years and I'm like, I don'tknow, I don't know what I the
time is right, right, That'show I feel when the time is right.
Yeah, definitely, yes, weneed to come to Gettysburg too,

(02:09:07):
my friend. All right, Lacrosse, love you and thank you, thank
you, love you guys, exactlyexactly. So um it what a great
show. Um it was still Yeah, do you have anything coming up that
you're really like looking forward to anyevents or anything like that. I'm starting

(02:09:31):
drag shows again at o'hallerance, really, but I'm not performing. I'm not
performing. I'm I'm in retirement fora little bit. But yeah, I'm
starting drag shows up. Just working, learning, that's it. Nothing major,
nothing new, But I'm around.I'm around. I'm like mold on
bread. You could get rid ofme, but I'll be back. That's

(02:09:56):
just terrible. That's terrible, terrible. That's molded penicillin. Okay, terrible.
It's also on the side of atree to tell us where North is.
So come on, you know it'sgot its purpose. Some of it's
a healer. So yeah, wegot it, We got it all right.
Sunday um uh actually next Monday,guys. Um you saw this gentleman,

(02:10:22):
he's gonna be joining us. Yousaw him at Gettysburg Battlefield. Bash.
Um, I did an interview withhim. That's mister Jan the ron
yacca Vetti. He's gonna be joiningus here next Monday. Um, it's
gonna be one of those teddy scratchingWhat did you just say? What's it
mean? This guy has got agreat language and he's very very intelligent,

(02:10:45):
and um, it's gonna be funto talk to him about um, ghost
paranormal equipment, um and all thatgood shit. You and you know where
I stand, you know, onsome of the stuff. And he respects
that and I respect him for hiswell. So, um So ron um
Yacovetti will be here. That's athat's an interesting last name, Yeah,

(02:11:07):
Jacovett. Yeah, that's actually prettycool. Yeah, Jewish Italian name.
Yeah. All right, Sindy,what you got coming up this week?
So tomorrow is Taro Tuesday, EasternStandard TIMECO Tuesdays. I think I'm gonna

(02:11:28):
make TACCOs to Oh yum picture withme awesome. I should make some tacos
too, to be honest, theboys would love that. Um So Taro
Tuesday on my YouTube channel. Thus, I like, Cindy, come see
us have fun. Um and II have to do a live to catch

(02:11:52):
up on my um my All Signsreadings. I was going to be doing
them on Thursday. I wanted todo them on Sunday, but I had
the second dose of the vaccine onThursday, so between trying to take care
of Jet, who had his thesame day as me. Um, Jet
was much sicker than I. Butum, I did not get too I

(02:12:16):
know why, that is what youknow, because he's a little bastard.
No, he just was not feeling. See, when you ain't good to
your mama, you get sick.See the cuckoo exactly. I'm gonna tell

(02:12:39):
him he's coming. He's coming inin sickness for him, He's going to
sneak through your nasal passages and thencome on pop out of your stomach like
an alien. Hello my mommy,Hello my daddy. So wild? Oh
my gosh, you're too wild tonight. Um, but yes, just keep

(02:13:00):
an eye out from my All Signsreadings. I'll probably try and catch up
on Wednesday to do from Sunday toSaturday, and then Sunday will start.
Um the new and for me,which is really cool. And I need
to get your little white butt hereto get those herbs. You need to
go, Yes, I know youneed to get. Um, you just

(02:13:20):
let me know it. I'll makemyself available because they need to be picked.
It's harvest time because they're gonna startgoing away here really soon. Um
So, and I have more.I mean, you can have had as
much white sage as you want.I've got a lot there. So I
love you're getting all of it.Yeah so, because yes, I guess

(02:13:43):
it's hard to find right now.It is. It is. I always
grow between three and four plants,but it always shoots off, so I
always get extra, you know,so, which is great. And um
So, actually for me, allI've got, I'm doing a lot of
work. Are are going to beopening for the bowling center here really soon,
so I'm really excited about that.I've been working my ass off.
Everybody knows that I've been working seventyhours a week at this new job.

(02:14:07):
And yes, and um we aregoing to be investigating the bowling alley,
the lanes as well as the newAlleyway building because we're finding some really weird
shit happening. Don't tell me,I'm not telling you so, but we're
going to be doing that. AndBuddy the Bigfoot, you guys, Buddy

(02:14:30):
is um he's getting out there.We're we're getting more more people saying they
love him, they want him forthings. So, um, we also
have a brand new location at brandnew state that Buddy is going to Are
you ready drum roll? Missouri?We are gonna have a Buddy the Bigfoot

(02:14:50):
in Missouri. Yes, yes,and we can thank Troy and Kevin for
that because they are going to helpus get Buddy established down there. Oh
no, that's awesome, awesome.So he's gonna be available in five states
and we're not gonna be happy tillwe're in like ten to fifteen. So
we have a takeover. That's right, Reddy, Buddy the big Foot for

(02:15:15):
president in twenty twenty five. SoI don't know, I just threw that
out there. I know I'm acoop. But um, other than that,
UM big dance party on Saturday orFriday night this week. Um,
so we're gonna have a really bigdance party at my place. Um,
we're gonna have some fun. Andum, Halloween, so everybody knows this

(02:15:41):
as well. We're opening up ourcourtyard to all the local businesses to where
they can come set up a tablefor free and hand out candy to all
the kids. We're going to runthem through at four o'clock in the afternoon,
so you don't have to worry aboutyour kids getting candy that's poisoned to
razor bladed or anything like that.Um, you're gonna be a run your
kids through there, which is reallyreally cool. That's super cute. And

(02:16:05):
we're still working on Buddy. Iwas gonna put this in and I forgot
about. Buddy the Bigfoot has awrestling match, hopefully in twenty twenty two,
coming up against the Great Loafa fromWWE for the World Championship Hide and
Seek Championship the Belt, So weare still working on that as well.
Buddy has had that and and that'llbe fun to see what the yeah,

(02:16:31):
yeah, what the Samoan family isgoing to do to Buddy? Right?
And UM Sunday's UM at three pmEastern Standard time, I have my D
and D game. Oh yes,I forgot about that. Jason Um is
the Bipolar DM, the Bipolar DMand the Bipolar Dragons, and we are

(02:16:54):
the Bipolar Dragons, and and ourfriend Robert White is on are with me?
Could you imagine what a real bipolarDragon would be like in real life?
Ah? Yeah, it's like everybodyjust it's fitting water out and fire
out of its mouth. It doesn'tknow if you should breathe, well,

(02:17:16):
one out of one and one outof the other. Maybe ring exactly lacrosse.
I mean, it's like or itjust shoots the fire and then he
goes. I'm so sorry, Ididn't even see that. You don't know
what I'm doing. I'm just feelingemotional right now. Poor York, Poor

(02:17:39):
York. I will burn thee withfire and then put you out with my
pea. What that's kind of sluck? Okay, guys, we're not sweet,
know it. I'm not saying justin that mood today's but yes,
what is that Robert? Buddy thebig Foot? Bush basher? So,

(02:18:05):
so what are you gonna do,Robert? That would be great to put
Bigfoot? Put Buddy the big Footin Australia. Wouldn't that be awesome?
Oh my god? I want togo to Australia too, But that would
be great. So next week Monday, eight o'clock, Ron Jacovetti will be
here. Um and yes, sowe're gonna have a fun time to lacrosse.

(02:18:28):
We are going to get you back, right, Yes, of course,
yes, of course, anything Ican help with, and thank you
so much for having me. Yeah, well, we love you. So
you're welcome back anytime. And ifCendy ever needs a break, you can
be my uh cohost. I'll bethere. Hey, we can do three,

(02:18:52):
we can do two co hosts.Why not. We can have him
come in some night just for fun. Yeah. So all right, guys,
So Cindy, you know what timeit is? Right? Sure do?
Honey? All right? I loveyou too, everybody. Thank you
so much for coming, Thank youfor popping in here exactly. All right,
Cindy. Wherever there is darkness,there's always. Thank you for listening

(02:19:24):
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