#234-Paratalkradio Welcomes Ron Yacovetti/Kristie London

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side that looks good. That way, it looks good. So you know,
before we get going, Um,Facebook is so screwed up still,
I mean it's still screwed up.It's not one hundred percent. Um.
I have been looking at all thefeeds we're getting, Like now, it's

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just sending the notifications that we're live. Oh Jesus, I just got them.
Yeah, I just got the notification. Interesting. Interesting, It's so

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crazy, it is. It isso oh, get off there. Wow.
So that was me. So LauraRouse, I think I see that
she's in the house. Hello Laura, Hello Laura. Um so there's a
couple of things. So anyways,you know, we're like not even us.

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Even Ron said earlier, He's like, I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
I mean he's got his show onright after us. Oh yeah,
So I'm like, uh, Iwas so worried that we weren't gonna be
running on Facebook at all. Ithought maybe we were just gonna be.
Um, I hooked us up toLinkedIn now, so we have a brand
new location which is LinkedIn. Um, and are you two YouTube pages?

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Um? Look at that Ron's lovelygirlfriend or I don't think they're married yep,
don't tell nobody. But anyways,Um, she just shared a page
shared the page. They are sucha cute couple though, you know what
I mean? Um? Yeah,And I keep screwing up her name and

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it's actually just pronounced lords. Whatis it pronounced? Yeah, so it's
like huh hi, see she knowledgednow she's in there high but all right,
yeah, you take some medicine.Maybe I should be taking it because
I gotta put up with you tonight, oh stamp, alright, so just

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joking hill Tim Conwell, thank youfor joining us. All right, so
let me read this real quick.Um lords, Yeah, she's like putting
it in there, so I understandit lordes right, but I don't.
We'll get into that in a littlebit. So our guest tonight um is

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Ron Yacovetti. And uh we interviewedI actually interviewed him at Gettysburg and the
whole hour we had went by sofreaking fast. It was crazy. Um,
yeah, when we were just there. Yeah awesome. Yeah. So
anyways, UM, let me readthe little bioo that I have here for

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me, says Ron. Began investigatingduring his fourteen years living in Los Angeles.
You lick at dona interrupt me witha licking thing. Come on now,
all right. So this diversity andresidents gave him the opportunity to investigate
some of the most notable haunts onboth coasts, included the Queen Mary Yeoman

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House, the Shanley Motel, umWhite Hill Mansion, and the Glen Tavern
in several times. Um. Hehas a unique background as a stand up
comedian, fun Yes m MMA,and boxing commentator, as well also a
writer and a paranormal investigator. Ronhas hosted and interviewed in a variety of

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fields, driven by a genuine loveof connecting with others. Um, So
tonight should be a good time,folks. And and I'm sorry if we
get a little deep. All right, everybody, let's welcome Ron to the
show. Hello, Rod, Hey, nice to be here with you guys

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again. Thank you for the intro. It is pronounced lordes. You got
that, You got that right?And she will share everybody's show. She's
she's a community player for sure.That's awesome, that's awesome. We do
appreciate that. Robert White from Australia'shere, but he is over on YouTube
tonight. It's YouTube inclusive. Well, some people are getting on Facebook.

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So I don't see anybody yet onon in the chat from Facebook yet,
but yeah, I got him onthe other outlets. Yeah, all day
it was get out of my Facebook. Yeah, right, exactly, don't
touch my Facebook. Yeah, that'sexactly what it was about Facebook, Yes,

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don't touch my social media's book.The worst part about it, it's
people. And there were still peoplethat just didn't know. And then there
are those that, I mean,if they don't watch the news, if
they're not if they don't really payattention to the news. And let me
tell you something, if Facebook disappears, if Facebook disappears, what is society

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going to do? Because every yeah, but I'm just saying that every social
connection we have is Facebook, exceptfor friends that live in your town or
your family lives in your town,the majority of them are there. I
mean, we did from this becauseI had a reading earlier that I could
not get to. I could becauseI couldn't message her, I couldn't do

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anything because I didn't have her ownphone number. So going forward, one
of the things I'm going to dois probably use email from now on rather.
Yeah. Well, and see,that's what we're going to be doing
here, emails, phone numbers,booking through my my you be booking through

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my um website. Yeah, yeah, I mean we're gonna have to start
using Like I reached out to allof our shows. It's like, guys,
if I don't have your phone number, you better get it to me,
because if Facebook goes down and youcan't get your shows up and running,
how do you think I'm going tocontact you? Yep, yep,

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you know. And they're saying onepoint five billion people lost personal information today
from Facebook. How is? Howis Facebook? So Dave table to me
from what I understand not too longago, Facebook, who was one of

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the most secured social networks in theworld. So who knows. But there's
so many, so many things thatat speculation first off, of why it
went down. Nobody has the truth. There's so many different stories going on.
Do you know what. I'm notgoing to worry about it because I
think we need to go dive rightin here with Ron. Um. We

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did not get to that much umbecause as he said it, and so
did I, we could have satthere for hours. Yeah yeah, I
mean we just had a really gooddiscussion. So you guys, uh,
go back and look at the videofrom Gettysburg um with Ron, because I'm
telling you, it went by sofreaking fast. That's awesome. It did.

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It was fantastic. I love whenwe have conversations like that, right,
It's just amazing. He gave meso many compliments. I'm like I
was blushing him, like, ohshut, he was fantastic. I could
have flipped a scrip and been interviewinghim. He was more interesting than me.
I'm like, maybe this is maybethis is backwards. It was a

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good time. It was a goodtime, and it was an honor to
sit there with him at that That'sa to me, that's a staple of
achievement. To to not only berepresented at Gettysburg like you guys have been
every year, um, but tosit in that chair and sit with you.
I thought that was that To me, that was a that was a
benchmark. It was an honor tobe there. Thank you so much.
Awesome. I'm Oh, I gotone too. I have been I don't

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know about you guys, but I'vebeen sneezing my ass off today. Yeah,
me too. I think I raiseda childhood memory. I'm not sure
I love it. He's funnier thanwe are. You know. When when
I saw in their comedian when wefirst when I first enterviewed him, you
know, I saw the whole mmaand all that. I'm like, No,

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the comedian thing was what caught me. It's like, you know,
that's freaking awesome. Yeah. Comicsare are satirists. Comics are are are
humorous philosophers. And it's funny becausemy with with my specificity with with i
TC, you know, instrumental transommunication, spirit communication stuff. UM. A
lot of what I talk when Ido a lecture UM in this actually behind

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me. This is from when Iwas in I was at the Pine Bush
Ufo and Parammal Museum October one pastFriday, in a lecture place is beautiful.
UM. I have certain technical elementsto what I talk about. I
get into some of it, UM, but I'm not the same mold as
like a ghostbox builder. UM.And because of the comedic side and how
we look for irony and hypocrisy,and there's a very philosophical take to to

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my points of view. Am Ispeaking on stuff even with it TC?
Wow? Can you explain what itis for those of us? There you
go. Yeah, it's instrumental transcommunicationUM. It is defined by some of

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the brilliant people in the field likeTim Woolworth will say, use the use
of a third party instrument for communicationwith spirit UM. It was born out
of EVP research or a lot ofthe European folks who did eat EP research
started using white noise per advisement fromtheir spirit of contexts for an audio support
bed to enhance or help the vocalsbe audible come through. And there was

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a German physicist named doctor Ernst Sankowskiwho when I think it was ninety four
ninety eight, coined the term ITCor in Europe it's Trench communication instrumental TCI,
and he did it purposely to delineatebetween when you capture something on a
device like EVP versus when the deviceitself is the medium and it facilitates the

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communication, not just captures it.And for the purposes of real time,
because you guys know you've been doingthis for a very long time as well.
You do EVP that you you usuallyyou go home, even a birth
sessions sometimes maybe, but it's usuallyreview and that's when you'll see what you
have. But when you do itcwork. The goal is real time communication

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to try to get a dialogue goingwhat we're doing now, and so that
he thought it needed its own termto delineate between capture and review versus communication
in the real time if possible.Wow, just so you guys know,
the Facebook comments just blew up instantlyover here. I don't know what happened.
Yes, okay, can I sayhi to everybody? Really? Yeah?

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Go right ahead now, Hi,Bob, Hi, Kimberly, Hi,
Barry, Hi, Eric Um.Let's see. So it's interesting because
it put in the ones before Robertand mister Robert. I think that's really
interesting. Hate Tim Conwell. TimCommo is awesome. He is awesome.

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We like him. They got tosee him at the New Jersey Para Unity
Expo just recently. Also, Iknow I really wanted to be able to
go. I love Barry Marks's comment. Good news my computer didn't crep the
bed, right, that is good. Karen, I don't know where Karen
is. But I see that Bobbysaying high to you. So, hello

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Karen. There's a few in here. I mean they're they're all all right.
Well, Tim says, no way. He denies it all the time.
He's he's a good dude, man. That's that's not denying. That's
not undeniable. I can't, hesays, he tells me all the time.

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I'm paying his ass. I don'tknow. I'm a pay in his
ass. I don't know what itis. Tim doesn't really like me.
I don't know what it's problem.I'm just joking. Um. Robert says,
some spirits think they are comedians too. Then you have Robin Williams,
who is a comedian. What fromthe ether? Oh, from the ether?

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There we go, Yeah, outof the ether. Yeah that's um.
I know there's a lot of this. There's videos that that get put
out where they go this is thespirit of so and so. Um.
Here they are in their own voice. I mean sometimes they're using sound banks
or fragments that are of that person'svoice. So if you use their voice
and they sound like it, noshock there, um and honestly, anybody

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who does it TC stuff long enoughknows that it's not. Um, it's
not the Facebook portal, it's notwhat we're doing here. You can't see
who you're talking to. Necessarily,you don't know. I've gotten stuff that
was really information wise, you know, very indicative of it. Could have
been my mom who passed in Januarytwenty nineteen. But I could never say

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with certainty thank you. UM,I can never say with certainty that it's
her. I can say that Ibelieve it's her. And there's there's there's
there's verticals in this field when youdo research that fall into a belief,
and there's verticals that fall into umempirical experience where you have an educated perspective
or point of view based on yourexperience and that of others that you trust

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or respect. Because I think yourmom is pretty funny also, and you
may have gotten your sense humor fromher. So uh literally literally just saw
her smack you in the back ofthe hat and literally tell me that you
got your funny from her. She'svery funny. My father, UM,

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my father's also a clown. Iget it. I get it from Yeah.
I really didn't have a chance inlife to not be part clown.
I literally it made me feel likethere was a like running joke between at
least two people of where the funnycame from. So that's why I was
bringing it up. She's good,she's hysterical to be honest. Now,

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all right, so you know we'regonna somebody saying stop freezing with the Facebook,
so we don't know who you are. Unfortunately it didn't sign in,
so we don't know who you arewith the Facebook user. We're sorry,
m But I knew that if wewere going to start talking about it TC
stuff, that the that the followingname was going to show up. Um,
you know, huff um, there'sa lot of there's a lot of

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what's huff I don't know what thatmeans? Oh yes, um that he's
staying poor form with huff. I'lllet me let me speak to that for
a second, and then that's allI'm gonna I'm gonna say on it is
because one thing that I do inthis field, if if there's somebody I
truly don't like, the only personwill know would be them, right I
I hold myself to a standard tonot be blasting people anonymously through posts that

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make forty nine people think I'm talkingabout them when I'm talking about one.
UM, I don't blast people onon social media. If I have a
problem with you, you'll know itand I'll discuss it with you with the
purposes of working it out. Andthen if not, then he'll be it.
UM. I had limited engagement withhuff I talked him a long time
ago when I was newer with thestuff, when the portal stuff became a

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big thing. He was gracious,he responded to me. UM. And
that's as far as my interaction withhim goes. I'm not endorsing or or
or bashing anything that he does.UM, I'm speaking just to the phenomenon
of ITC. When somebody says thatit's the voice of someone famous coming through,
there really is no way to knowthat. And if the banks,
if the banks coming through or usingtheir voice, then the fact that you're

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getting their vocal tone should not bea surprise, right. Well, And
guys, you know we're not hereto bash anybody. And you guys know
that, you know in the chatroom, we don't do that here.
Um, even though you know thereare certain people that we don't care for,
we might roll our eyes, wemay get go we mays yeah,

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but we don't. We don't likethem. We just don't like what they're
doing. For h Let's say thecommunity, the overall community, right,
and that's all right, that counts, you know, So that's that's the
best way to put it. Andyou know, I don't hold anything against
anybody unless you hurt my family.If you hurt my family, which a

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lot of them are my friends aswell, then watch your back. But
other than that, you know,it's it is what it is. The
paranormal has got so much shit.I'm sorry, but that's the only way
that I can explain it. That'sgoing on that we don't know left from
right in most cases. Now we'resitting here with Ron who we can.

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We're definitely gonna sit here and talkabout i TC for the next forty five
minutes. But there are other thingsout there that you guys know that we
try to bring to the front lineon para talk radio to talk about because
we don't know everything. I don'tcare who you are in the chat room
or in the paranormal field or wherever. I don't care who you are.

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You don't know everything. And here'sthe kicker for all of you. Okay,
there is no proof of any ofit, zippo. Nothing cannot prove
any of it whatsoever. Why doyou think we're doing this. Everybody's out
here, there's thousands of people tryingto come up with this stuff. So

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let's let's put that where it belongsand have a nice conversation tonight. Yeah.
And the interesting thing about the useof the and the application of proof
is that it's it's it's used inthat sense universally, like at some point
the globe is gonna hold hands andbelieve in ghosts, and that's not gonna

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happen. Like, that's like tryingto get everybody to be rooting for the
same sports team in a given sport. It's not going to happen. Um.
The thing is that there is,there is proof of paranormal. Paranormal
by definition, something is beyond thenorm, not measurable or quantifiable Scientifically,
they don't know, and that thathappens. Um, Even people who have

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no belief in the stuff at alldon't. You can't be a skeptic of
stuff that doesn't happen, Right,If I don't release a movie, you
can't be the critic of it.So the fact that that somebody's skeptical or
critical means that this stuff happens,it's the origins of it. And whether
or not this is preternatural, supernatural, or it's natural, we don't know.
And that's that's a whole that's awhole other thing too. Is it

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is you think you think everything tojump into right there? It is?
So, I mean, if youthink everything's paranormal, they call you a
believer. If you think nothing's paranormal, they use the word skeptic. But
by definition, a skeptic seeks thetruth. They want absolution. So if
somebody thinks nothing is paranormal, that'snot a skeptic. They're a believer.
That's a belief system. Nothing's paranormal, that's what they believe. They're just

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a believer in an opposing paradigm.The word skeptic gets used because sociologically,
societally it has connotations of well todo, educated, well spoken, so
they go with that, and theperson who's gullible and thinks everything's a ghost
is the believer. But in actuality, if you're going to use terms the
way they're defined, both parties arebelievers. The skeptic is in the middle.
Using skepticism. That's that's a keydifference, and I think that's important

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to point out. We frame ourfield by how we define it in terms
we use. I don't like,um, I don't like pseudoscience. It's
not a pseudoscience. It's a fieldof study. Exactly. Paranormal phenomenon is
what we study. There's bones inthe ground. People dig them up,
dust them out, and try tosee what they are. Right, they're
archaeologists. The subject matter is thebone. The study is archaeology. So

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the phenomena we study those are thebones and afterlife research paranormal research, that's
the study. There's no methodologies thatare exclusive to paranormal People who try to
criticize it say that, but theysay it from the other side of the
line. And so it's not apseudoscience. It's not a science at all.
The methodology and the way it's doneis or is not scientific. See

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now you know why I like thisguy. Yes, he was my first
back off. You're bringing the wolfout of ten, that's right. So
anyways, no, so you knowthis is this is something that I think
a lot of people need to understand, and I've tried to now five and
a half years going on here,I mean January and February will be six

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years. And uh yeah, it'snot a long road. And you know,
we we sit here and I don'tknow how many times, and I
know it's Cindy being a psychic,how many times do you sit there and
go, really, is this reallywhat it comes down to? Or is

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there more to it? And howdo I get to that conclusion? You
know, whether you're a psychic oran investigator, or even a teacher trying
to teach a child you know,how to do their math or whatever.
I mean, Folks, in simpleterms, life is a big freaking puzzle.
And it's our job in this partof our civilization, of our society,

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as in the paranormal, it isto find these puzzle pieces and put
them together so they make sense,not just for us, but for you
too, you know, and youknow as some of us are. Some
of us are been doing this along time. Some of us are well
educated, some of us are notso well educated. Some of us are

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just rednecks from Yorksville. Some ofus are, you know, true believers.
Some of us are skeptics. Someof us have our ordained some of
us have PhDs. What I likeabout this field is it doesn't matter where
you come from. We all havesomething to place on a table for somebody
else to look at. We alwayshave something that we can bring that can

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either move us forward or set usback. And that's something that we have
to look at. Also, isyou can't have one without the other.
Yeah, you know so, I'vegotten in several arguments over equipment gadgets as
I call them, gadget tree.That's my word. That's my new a
T shirt is gadget tree. Andyou know it's it's simply the fact is

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that if you cannot take this deviceand prove what it's actually telling you,
first question is do you really knowwhat it does? Right? The second
thing is how are you going toget the answers from it? And how
are you going to prove they arewhat they are? And there's so many
things out there, folks. That'swhy I'm saying, comes to the paranormal

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before you just shoot it down,take in everything that's being said first.
Don't call it just oh, that'sa load of hogwash. I don't know
because from a methodology standpoint too,By the way, any method to be
considered scientific in nature has to befalsifiable exactly. So if something creates a
false positive, nothing in any machineryor any industry works one hundred percent of

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the time. You know, Ilove I love the and I talk about
this all the time, an electure, I love the thing where they say
you have to be able to dothis, you know the spirit communication.
If it's real to do it,you have to do it in threes,
in this in the controlled environment,in the same condition, three time in
a row. It can lab thenit then then science may you know,
we'll look at it. Heard thatthat's not what is it saying that Einstein

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says, if you judge a fishby its ability to climb, it'll think
it's a full forever. You can't. It's it's not a not a measurable
scale. Because if you think aboutit this way, if you're trying to
communicate in dialogue right, then you'reyou're perceiving that there's an intelligence or that
there's a possibility for response. Youdon't talk to your couch so well.

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The fact that you're dialoguing and lookingfor a response. Inherent in that is
free will and intelligence, and withthat comes choice. I might talk to
somebody on the subway, they don'twant to talk to me. They're gonna
So when you say that that themethodology is not or the efficacy of the
method is not legit because you can'tdo it three times in a row.
First of all, Marchellabachi did thatunder the strictest conditions in Europe. That's

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a whole o the thing. Butsecond of all, it doesn't make any
sense. Do you take that sameexample if I use my trying a communication
device to call someone who's not inmy physical space. Let's say my dad
and I call him ten times todayand he picks up the phone one time.
By that standard of measure, myfather doesn't exist because I have a
ninety percent fail rate and I've onlyconnected with him one time. Right,

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Well, if you remove free willand choice from whoever we're trying to connect
with other real mothers, dimension,whatever it is, then you're really already
playing a fools game in your evaluation. Makes sense, It does. It's
just like I have. It's thesame believe it or not, folks,
it's the same thing. It's likewhen you go to a place that you

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think is haunted, or somebody saysit's haunted. You're already assuming that it
is, even though it may notbe. I mean, people need to
stop putting the horse or the cartbefore the horse. They need to That's
another element too that I found isthat once you do audio research or audio
communications stuff enough, it is notenough of criteria to say that a location

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or any place is haunted purely onthe fact that you get anomalous vocals.
I get them here, I canget them over there. It's you need
more to substantiate something being actually hauntedthan just anomalous vocals. It's not enough.
It is a peg. It isa peg on the board, but
it is not the end all beof of Now the place is haunted.
I got an EVP validation. Folks, What have I always told you?

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You might get one thing that givesyou what you're looking for, but if
you don't have something else to backthat up, to give it a link,
any type of link, right,you can't claim that it is.
You really need more than just onetime. I mean, I've seen a
balloon go up in the air byitself and go back down, but I'm
not going to tell anybody, Hey, a little kid just picked that up

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and point it down, I haveno proof of that, and it doesn't
detract from the authenticity or even theamazement of something being phenomenal that they very
well all might be something that issupernatural in nature, no doubt about it.
It's not to demean anybody's experiences orwhat they've experienced or witnessed. But
the more you have to corroborate somethingstatistically, the better it is. And

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this is something that's really cool forpeople who do paranormal research or ghost hunting
because if you look at the statisticsof evidence, just the characteristics of evidence,
when people are throwing the whole sciencewhatever stuff around truth be told.
In science, there's anecdote and there'stheory, and a lot of those things
are very much fluid like definitions wouldbe. But if you look at paranormal

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research, if you look at teams, different genders, different types of people,
different cities, states, countries,whatever, the characteristics of the evidence,
the eedps, the direct radio voices, the ghostbox stuff, the visual
everything, the characteristics are synonymous acrossthe boards. And when you have consistency
of data, you have stability ofdata. When you have stability of data,
you have role liability. So inmy opinion. The people who are

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doing good work in this field areleading the charge to see what the truth
is, far more than science isin and of itself. Right, Hello,
Christy London. We will see youtomorrow or Wednesday, Wednesday, two
days. So you know, here'shere's something else that I find, you
know, pretty interesting with all thisthat, and and I'm not saying this
as being an old guy, andwell maybe I am. You know.

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The thing is is when I startedin this field, it wasn't called the
paranormal. That term wasn't even there. It was called the supernatural of the
unknown. And you know it wasit was really difficult to talk to anybody
with um. Nobody wanted to beinvolved. It was a no no um.
It was oogi boogie, you know, bad juju um, all that

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stuff. And you know, inleaps and bounds we have we have stepped
into the future with a lot ofdifferent things. I have been asked,
like, I have a lecture nextThursday here at the Avon Town Library.
I do it every year. Ido it for for the library system through
the outproduct project, and so Ido it through a lot of the libraries.

(35:06):
And the first questions they always sayto me, is it real?
I've always wanted to say to thesepeople. Yes, I would love to
tell you that it's real. Butall I can tell you is this.
What's real is your experience, becauseI have no other way to tell you

(35:27):
or to prove to you that itis. First off, I wasn't there.
Second off, I don't have anyway to prove or disprove because I
have no evidence, right, youknow. So it's on you if you
believe it's real, if you sawthis person or saw this happen, then
to you, it's real. Andthat's one of the things, Hello,
Chief Lynn. That's one of thethings that I take into the field with

(35:50):
me to my people is that,guys, when somebody calls you because they
need help and a parent, youknow, with a paranormal situation, please
be mindful of their emotions because firstand foremost it's emotions and belief. And
they their house is rocked. Man, they are rocked. They're looking for
help from you, all right.So if you go in with a piece

(36:13):
of equipment, I don't care whatit is, K two, ghostbox,
whatever, you get one piece ofevidence and you tell these people that it's
haunted. That falls on you becauseyou know what, you have no proof,
not with one single piece of evidence, and it takes more than one
time. You have to keep goingback and you have to keep doing your
research and your work. That's howit works, man. Research is important.

(36:37):
One of the things that that Ihad an affinity for audible stuff like
so we do lotisan, I dodirect radio voice, which is a precursor
to before there was a spirit boxor a ghostbox or a Frank's box,
before EVP maker step On bay Onmade with the fragments of sound, there
was direct radio voice, which wasa European methods don't really see on TV

(37:00):
here, so not a lot ofpeople really do it. It's a grind.
But one of the reasons I lovedeven ghostbox stuff or anything audible is
because of the evidence you do get. Unlike an experience. Somebody goes somewhere
they feel like because I got touched, somebody pulled on my shirt, whatever,
that I believed it happened. Ifsomebody really wholeheartedly felt that or experienced
it, no question about it.But from a research standpoint, I like
the fact that audio stuff is whatyou call a ppo. It's a permanent,

(37:22):
paranormal object. I can re examinethat over and over and over again.
I could send it to you tolook at it. I could send
it to you to look at it. And it's something you can share,
what your periods. You can displayit, you can demonstrate it, you
can go over it. And thataids in research because you can look at
you can look at it on spectrograph, you can voiceprint to see if what
you heard is what you thought youheard. And so whenever you can go

(37:43):
over something more than once, it'snot just one time at that location.
It's also revisiting the evidence because Iwe've listened to audio before and also in
the Lord's because it says something andwe listened to that like six times and
that suddenly something that we didn't evenhear before. Right, right, We're
fallible, We're you know, we'refallible. We have biases, we have
you know, we have propensities forcertain things, you know, So you

(38:07):
have to you have to take allthat into account. Yep, what you
gonna say, Cindy M I forgotnow besides I'm having a hot flash,
I mean besides seeing that. Ohwow, not flash, all right?
So yes, yes, Eric seepingevery place? Yeah, well TV has

(38:36):
done. TV has done two things. It's it's it's made things more mainstream.
It's it's made things more um permissibleto talk about and share it.
It had positive influence, no question, but it's also had negatives. Yeah,
but it's it's also through sensationalism andthrough ratings and stuff has gotten to
the point where it is created.You know this, you know, demonfest

(38:57):
and everything's malicious and malevolent and andI don't think and I'm not a demonologist,
but just from my experience, justin paranormal investigating and an audio research,
I haven't had um a boatload ofnegative experiences. And even sometimes too,
I've had the word demon or somethingcome out of a box. And
that doesn't mean what it is.If I yell astronaut right now, you

(39:19):
guys are all gonna think I'm goingto space tomorrow just because somebody says something.
Does I mean that's what they are? Yeah? You know yeah,
So what what do you What doyou want to bring up today that you
think is important to our listeners today? Because there are so many myths that

(39:43):
let me I'm not even gonna saythat, I'm just gonna say there's so
much information out there about itc thatis not understood correctly. First off,
UM, I mean when we spokethe first time, you actually gave us
where it came from. You knowwhat I mean. You sat down,
you told me everything about your theEuropean study, and I really would like

(40:04):
you to repeat that because these peoplewere not there. Yeah, you know
that would be that would be awesome. It's um, European EVP researchers like
Constantine Rodeve, Friedrich Jurgensen, Marcellabacchi, doctor Anabel Cordoso, she's I think
of those, the one that's stillalive. Um. They did, they

(40:27):
did EVP work and you know,just recording vocals, and then some of
them started to use through instruction abed of white noise on a radio for
audio support. And then they weretold to certain communications that the vocals would
come out of the radio, andeventually they started getting voices and sounds that
were modulated and came out of theradio on on barren and empty frequencies now

(40:51):
different places, based on where youare. UM. I know doctor at
about Cardosos in Spain now and sheuses three shortwave frequencies that don't have any
radio emissions. Mark Macy out ofColorado had gotten a vocal from Constantine Rodove.
He got a phone call from him, which was really interesting because Rodove
was dead for over twenty years.But the voice print matched spot on and

(41:15):
told you to use VLF, whichis very low frequency, which is pretty
much what they would use for atsome point, I think emergency services,
but not anymore. And then theyuse it for submarine communication because of the
size of the waves would permeated thewater better, it would propagate through the
water better that way, so theywould use larger waves. So the closest
I was able to get without aVLF converter was long wave. So for

(41:36):
us, we've been using like inthe low killerherts one fifty to two fifty
on a long wave channel and justthat's it. It's just white noise.
And the thing is, it's agrind. It's not what our society is
big on, the instant gratification.Undoubtedly, ghostboxes work. I own a
bunch. I have a bunch ofwhole day paranormal boxes. I have a
box that Austin Maynard made. They'reamazing. They work. I like the

(41:59):
europe method a lot for direct radiovoice because of the purity of it rivals
EVP, where there's really nothing vocallythere in Europe, when they're doing symposiums
and they're doing these big conferences,when there's physicists and people on both sides
going back and forth and they're tryingto raise funding for research, they'll never
say that ghostboxes don't work. Theywon't because they know they do. But

(42:23):
for them, the people who areskeptical of this stuff, who don't think
it's real, if you're looking forvocals and you're using vocals, to them,
that's low hanging fruit. That's fodderfor the people who don't buy into
this stuff to say, well,you're getting voices because you're using fragments of
voices, when in actuality, ifyou know how those processes of like a
spirit box stuff work, it stilldoes not explain it. You know,

(42:45):
if you govern your evidence through timingand relevance, even a ghostbox direct radio,
whatever it is, the odds ofsomething coming through. If I'm holding
this up and it says mouse it'sastronomical odds at a station on a broad
podcasts through a sweep or otherwise,it's going to say that word at the
moment I asked for it, andif it does, I need to find

(43:05):
out when they're given away cash andprizes, because my luck is phenomenal.
And I think that's one of thethings that we have a problem with is
that there's just too many odd,strange, weird, out of the box
kind of responses you get when you'reusing one of these devices that you're like,

(43:25):
Okay, well this means nothing.It's just going through the frequencies and
it just happens to pick this up. Yes, has it happened to me
exactly what you're talking about. Absolutely, And not only that it happened when
I was doing an investigation. Iwas on the third floor. They were
down in the basement using it andthey said Cindy and they're like what And

(43:46):
then I don't know if they hadsaid something about the third floor or upstairs
or something like that, but they'relike, holy shit, where was Cindy.
They said, She's up here withus, Right. You use those
criteria for for being able to vetthe authenticity of what you're getting. If
if something comes through a box andit says yogurt, it doesn't mean it's

(44:07):
not a spirit or an entity oranything, just because it doesn't have any
relevance or meaning to you at themoment. But when you have timing irrelevance,
when it's answering something, When Isay who am I talking to and
it says ted in the moment Iasked for it, that levels up the
authenticity of what you're getting. Idon't trust me. You'll know if it's
me, I will. I startedto interrupt. I mean, and you

(44:30):
know where I'm gonna go here something. It's like, I have a hard
time with ghostboxes, frank boxes,any of that stuff. I have no
way of proving that any of thatis true. There is I have no
way of proving it. I knowthis, I know that there are several
and this really irks me and Ido not like it. And Cindy,

(44:52):
you know this. When people takea ghostbox and they go to somebody's home
and the only evidence they got isa ghost box and it says demon,
demon, demon, and then theytell these people that own this house is
a demon, and then they leave. What do they do to those people
told these people in the house andthey're the ones that have to live there,

(45:14):
right right? You need more thanthat. I'm sorry. A ghost
box is not by itself, isnot evidence if it can point you to
a direction to give you more evidence, or to point you to a validation
or something like that. By allmeans, I've done experiments with them,
I will continue to do experiments withthem. But I will never ever ever
say that a ghost box is trueby itself whatsoever evidence for the paranormal.

(45:40):
I just okay, this is thething is if you hear the word demon,
and God forbid that the homeowners aren'tthere with you or the renters,
they shouldn't be really doing the investigationwith you. So how are they finding
out that the word demon was usedunless you're telling them on and then no,

(46:01):
why the frick are you telling themthat? That's just to me?
That is that is not anything responsibilityright there? That is something that responsible.
I was I was actually going tosay immoral in my or that too.
I mean, do you really wantto scare somebody with that stuff,
because that's not that's not acceptable kindof things to be saying to somebody that's

(46:24):
in a hole, and they're alreadymost likely usually afraid to be in.
So I would be I would behappier Box, Cindy, I would be
happier if somebody took a ghost box, had somebody that has used it for
years and years and years gave themthe instructions of how to look for or

(46:46):
what to look for, or soon and so forth, instead of just
taken this device thinking that they knowit, because most people are not going
to read instructions on these things.First and foremost, they're gonna take this
box and they're gonna go out andturn it on and hope that they get
something right. Well, I mean, no set of instructions is going to
include things like having personal responsibility,having integrity, having respect for somebody.

(47:08):
And a residential thing is different thandoing research on your own or even a
historic location, and the words wechoose to define it are very specific and
important. So to look for somethingor for a ghostbox to show something that's
true true is a really slippery slopeof a word I guess to use.

(47:30):
If a vocal comes through and it'sclear and it answers something contextually and there's
no explanation for it, that bydefinition is anomalous. Who and what it
is we don't know at the pointthat you've captured it on a device,
a recording device, it is atthat point at least in league in part
with laws of nature and physics wherewe are because it's captured on the devices
that we have that we're able todo that. But the origins of it,

(47:53):
the origins of it is what isby definition paranormal, because it's beyond
normal. We don't have an explanationfor it. I've gotten vocals that are
direct that answered me, that saidsomething back or something contextry that was happening
in the reino. I totally agreewith you. But at the same time,
we cannot say that it was theghost in this house. We cannot

(48:13):
say that your prices is haunted.It could be a tra goes through somewhere
and says demon and then leaves right. I had one. I used it
at a location and I know fromstory upon story upon story there was a
little girl there and you know,we're packing up, this thing is still

(48:34):
going and then recording and I heara little girl laughing at the end of
this, and I'm like, okay, so that is a little weird.
Do I consider that proof? Well, No, All it really means is
that I caught something that sounded likea little girl laughing. I was in
a location that I've been told therewas a little girl. It's an anomalous

(48:57):
things. It's one of those piecesthat I hold on. It's in my
little pile of X files more orless thing. I don't know where it
came from. I can't tell youwhat it is. I'm not gonna tell
you it's a ghost. I amgonna say it was freaky, it happened.
I have no explanation. So bydefinition of the word, it is
paranormal. But it does not Iagree with everything you just said. Absolutely

(49:21):
paranormal means it's not explainable by normalmeans, or you can't ratherly figure it
out, So spot on, that'scorrect. Proof is the word that I'd
stay away from because the thing isis that what might be proof or one
person might not be proof exactly.This hits core beliefs with people. The
other thing, too, is thatand sometimes people who are a skeptical will
say it sounds almost like a copout. But there is a certain training

(49:42):
or learning to listen through the noiseor to listen to these things, to
pick out discernable things that might beintelligible or irrelevant. And it's it's something
that neurolgrica that we have it's it'sit's an inborn pattern recognition, right if
if you liken it too, ifyou if you full over terrain that you'd
never see before, right, thefirst pass flying over in a copter or
something, you wouldn't really recognize anything. The second pass, you start picking

(50:05):
up reference points you thinks you cankind of latch onto. The more you
go over it, just through mereexposure, you start being able to identify
and discern things. You have tohave discernment when you do this stuff.
Sometimes you can't guess. The mindcan trick you. The idea of paradolia
and that stuff is one hundred percentit can happen. But if you think
you heard something that is anomalous,you can go into audio software and do

(50:30):
what's called a voiceprint. You couldsay what you thought you heard, then
you look at it on the spectrographand if it matches, that's what you
heard. Now, if you can'texplain where that came from, it sometimes
the vocals are at a decibel levelthat the human vocal tract cannot replicate.
That's even more anomalous. It answersyour question, that's timing irrelevant and anomalous
through through the decibel level, soyou can stack the evidence just within the

(50:51):
audible capture itself. But but that'snot insolible either, Just so you know,
it's not personal court, No,I mean, nothing's infallible. That's
that's that's part of the discernment process. We are, as Constantine Rodov used
to say, part of the problemis that we are part of the process.
Exactly who step outside the paranormal box? I see an entrance right there

(51:14):
for that one. Why is that? Oh, because Teddy takes the people
out of the experiments. Yeah,we're part of it. We're part of
it. To be part of ittoo. Or doctor Rupert Sheldrake, who
sat on in the Skull experiments UMhad a term called morphogetic field, which
is a collective consciousness, which isthe group energy of the group. Think

(51:35):
that that is collectively amongst people andin consciousness is a real aspect of what
we might be communicating with. Thereare there are instances when people have gotten
vocals that they've been able to match, like like a fingerprint to somebody who
wasn't even dead. Tim Woolworths,a brilliant i TC guy, spoke that
got a vocal with somebody he knewwho was not deceased, who was sleeping
at the time, so that thatcould be a traveling consciousness situation. You

(51:58):
could be you could be talking tosomeone who's passed on, someone who's who's
in an out of body experience.Is the key thing is that we don't
know, but it's if you can'tfigure out where it came from, you've
got the at least you've got yourselfan anomaly. Well, the thing is
is I know for me as amedium, I can pick up on alive
people as well as dead people,and it doesn't matter if they're they're awake

(52:22):
or asleep, It does not matter. Not only that, a lot of
people who are in dementious states,they constantly ride the line that I do
right, one foot here, onefoot in the other plane of existence,
right, And so when you havethat, it's kind of like you may
have some cross things happening, right, Yeah, yeah, So that you

(52:45):
can always have those those bursts ofalive people as well as dead people as
a medium. So it's understandable thateven in those ghost boxes and stuff like
that, that you can that electronicmedia, let's call it that, right,
that that you can have some ofthese anomalous conditions that that appears right.

(53:07):
I'm seeing a lot of comments frompeople in here, you know about
um ghost ghost box conversations. Um. You know, it's a waste of
time, you know from from certainthings, and there's like the Fluff Well
it's I'd like what Bob was talkingabout. I want to see one of
these dough he's talking about. He'stalking about one of the Huff portal devices,

(53:30):
if I'm not mistaken, and soone of them. One of the
misconceptions with that is that the portalbox is not what facilitates to communication.
It's an amplifier. It's got guitareffects, pedals on, and other things
that are additives that that affect thesound for its intelligibility or how audible can
be in the moment um. Theprime example is if there's some boxes that

(53:53):
costs like thousands of dollars and it'sfunctioning off of a fifteen dollars radio.
The radio is what facilitates the communication, so it's really an expensive piece of
furniture is what you're paying for.So so the portal box is not what
communicates. I have a version ofone of those things, and it is
interesting to see what it does tothe sound. But that's not an experimental

(54:15):
piece of technology. That's that theGuitar Rock Hall of Fame is enough to
prove that it works. But we'retrying to use it for vocals to see
if we can make something more intelligiblein real time. But it's not it's
not the device that that's communicating itself. It's it's the it's the radio frequencies
and we do not know how theyinteract with them. It is scientifically labeled

(54:38):
something you'd call it. It's temporalsynchronization. You have a different realm or
plane of existence or whatever it iswhere you have transmission and reception that are
not line of site, same planeof existence, right, So it's not
like you're receiving one on one pointfive FM and then your home getting it.
You know, it's transmitting. Theother thing that's that's fascinating with especially
when we do direct radio, whichis similar to ghostbox stuff, is I've

(55:00):
been on my couch before running along wave frequency with no radio emissions,
and the one night specifically it soundedchoppy was like that, and I said,
that sounds like helicopter interference. Maybeit is. I'm right, by
New York City, and a vocalabout a minute and forty something seconds later
said, not a helicopter. Now, I'm not broadcasting out with a microphone.

(55:24):
I'm not speaking any louder than I'mmaking a mechanical wave with my larynx.
It only propagates so far it diesout. Nobody's in a truck with
a CB or a ham radio ora baby monitor. Nobody's hearing me to
respond to that. So it's it'sfascinating that whatever that is came through a
barren long wave frequency into my homewhen I'm not broadcasting outside of my immediate

(55:45):
vicinity. So there's something. There'ssomething to that, and I don't I
don't have the answer. I don'tknow how it happens, but I can
theorize if it's consciousness, that's possible. They have done tests where they sent
the telepathy experiment and they sent themessage back and forth to an astronaut in
space, and it came back quickerthan it would have if it was electromagnetically

(56:06):
sent back and forth. It couldbe the carrier wave that the radio is
coming in on works like either ahalf or a full duplex system. Half
is like um I guess like awakee talking you press a button, one
channel sends a signal. The samechannel sends it back when they press the
button, or full duplex, whichis like phones, two way communication on
one channel. It could be anyof that. We don't know, but

(56:27):
I know that when I speak withinthis confines and then something responds to me
and it comes out of the radiomodulated. I don't have an answer for
that. Yeah, Yeah, that'sstuff like that I get. You know,
there are times where you get somethingyou didn't expect, You don't know
how to explain it, you don'tknow where it came from, and you

(56:51):
know, what do you do withit? You do the same thing I
did. You stick it in alittle pile or here and go unexplainable.
Yeah, see, I saw.Eric Harrison said about science, canics prove
that consciousness takes place? There area lot of experiments that have actually spoken
to the to the proof of it. There's a gentleman in California, it
was out of UC Berkeley named doctora professor Charles Tart. One experience.
The experiment that he did was heactually had somebody in a chamber, monitored,

(57:15):
strapped down, sleeping in a roomand he put a piece of paper
in another room somewhere they didn't knowwhere. It was high up on a
shelf with the information written on it, facing to the ceiling. And they
were to have an out of bodyexperience or consciousness travel and come back with
that message. And they did,and it was fully monitored and they did
so. I can remember having surgery. I can remember having surgery. I

(57:38):
was twenty five years old, hadmy councils taken out, and I can
remember watching and hearing the doctors talking. The doctor who was I was quite
surprised because the doctor who was supposedto be doing my surgery was not the
doctor who did my surgery. WhenI saw him after Worth, I said

(58:00):
hey, doctor Mulberry and he's like, how are you doing Sydney surgery?
When well, how are you doing? And I said, I'm doing well,
But can you explain something because Ihave a memory of the surgery.
He's like, well, you shouldn'thave a memory of the surgery. I
said, well, I know youdidn't do the surgery. He's like,
wait what I said, you weresupposed to do the surgery. But it
was actually the other guy, theyounger guy that actually did the surgery and

(58:23):
you were talking him through it.He's like, how do you know that?
I said, I was watching.Yeah, there's a lot of account
for it. There's a lot ofaccounts like that. Another thing that's very
very important I want to point outis that the word science gets used like
like like sex ed when I wasa demon. No, I don't mean

(58:49):
like that, Like I used tothink sex ed was one guy by the
way, turned out it was aclass comedian can But people use people use
the words science that science doesn't thisscience hasn't proven that, Like science is
one guy or one body that's allunited. There are scientists on both sides

(59:10):
of the fence on all this stuff, on all of it, So you
can't say sciences and there is plentyof proof of things. But if somebody
scientifically is vetted in a certain areaor they're tenured somewhere, they're not going
to jump on the other side ofthe fence because they're not going to risk
their professionalism. They don't want tobe involved if they have turf to defend.

(59:31):
That has to do with their funding. Especially Ted said back in the
day when this was not even asprominent to talk about people would not jump
the fence in the face of proof. There's a thing called a file drawer
problem. When people do studies andthey have and they have evidence that is
above chance statistics, just above chancestatistics, they'll not put that forward because

(59:52):
it's not enough for them to puttheir neck out there, so they put
it in the file drawer and thennobody knows about it. But statistically,
if you wanted the big picture abouta certain field of study in what we
do, everything that's above chance wouldwould be relevant, would count. But
you don't get all of it becauseif it's not enough for them to come
forward, it gets filed away.So you're not even getting an accurate picture
from scientists who or are involved.There's there is a certain amount of bias

(01:00:16):
in a lot of studies, right, And that's one of the problems that
they've had, and that's one ofthings that they've brought up, is bias.
Right. It's not even counting,Cindy, the amount of research that
has been lost due to so manyother things, right, Right, So
I mean, you know, butI gotta say this because you know,

(01:00:37):
Ron, I know you gotta goand you know you have We've got to
get time where you can spend moretime. I know, Monday night was
it was the worst. I wasso looking forward to the only night you
were on. I mean, Iknow I'll have to You'll have to take
a leave of absence for one day. I know. I did not.
I did not want it to bea shorter show, because I do.

(01:00:58):
I do love talking to you,and and I I think that you know
the fact that you put forth thecritical thinking and stuff and being analytical,
and I think that's important that peoplein media are doing what you guys are
doing, and you're opening up possibilities, and you're putting forth the fact that
you have to have some judgment anddiscernment when you do this stuff and just
not jump to keep it real.Ron, we're trying to keep it real.

(01:01:20):
We don't want it, you guyssaid a few minutes ago, which
is you're talking about, Oh well, so much is put back to that
science. Oh well, where's thescience? Where's the science? And then
because a lot of times I,of course hear that stuff because of what
I do, right, so thenI have to say, well, it
may not be tangible what you canwhat I do, but I mean,
what is the difference with you havingfaith in your religion? Is that tangible?

(01:01:46):
Right? Well? No, no, no, well nothing, you
know, you just know things right, but you can't have freaking scientific proof.
I'll look at that. People areliking you, r they're liking y'all.
Yeah, thank you, I appreciateit. I appreciate it. Well,
thank you all. We hope youhave fun on your other show,

(01:02:09):
you know, and uh um,we'll have to have you back, so
you're gonna have to let us knowwhen you can come back show his show.
Yeah, I want to book anotherguest spot tonight. On top of
this, I would not have whatwhat is your show? Where? What
is your showing? Where can youfind it? It's it's Entity Voices Paranormal
Evidence. It's Monday nights at nine. It's on kgra a dB dot com

(01:02:32):
or kgra a DB's Facebook or YouTubepage. UM Eastern Standard time. It
is Eastern Standard time. Yeah.So, and we have teams and people
all over the all over who doparanormal research investigating, and they share their
evidence with us. Tonight we're actuallysharing some of our own. Um every
so we'll have a guest free showwhere we'll kind of just share what we

(01:02:52):
do out in the field and um, and it's it's a blast, it's
humbling, and it's inspiring to seewhat other people get. And it's a
great reminder that when you do thisstuff, it ain't all about you.
It's it's it's about the community andhow great and do that what people do
is you didn't do what I didn'tput that up there. My hand was
over here writing and it just stopped. That was paranormal. Yeah, agree,

(01:03:16):
Yes, I didn't do it.I can't. I can't han't.
I can't. I'm not able totouch anything. Yeah, I know.
I don't know. I can't evenwrite comments. Eric's that's a great discussion.
Thank you. So you know,we definitely have you back. We'll
figure it out. Yeah, wellhe has to go. He's already five
minutes later. Ron, thank youso much, and thank you, thank

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you all. Love you guys.I appreciate it. I appreciate it very
same here, buddy, We'll talkto you again, all right, Byron,
Bye bye, artists, there yougo. Oh my gosh, it
was so yeah. So you know, I love like this is like when

(01:04:00):
we were at Gettysburg when we're havinga conversation that was that I love talking
with him, and he went sofast, just like you guys had said.
Hey, Eric says, whoops,my dad. I'm not allowed to
touch anything during our show either.Well, I can touch stuff Christie,

(01:04:24):
but okay, nobody go anywhere.I'm gonna take a short break and then
we got to tell you about somethingthat has to do with Christy London.
Who are we gonna just have Christiecome on? Then she could as she
wants, but that's up to her. She has to let me know.
But we're gonna take a short shortbreak and then if she wants to come
on or talk to her while we'reis that what you want, Mike's mom,

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DV radio now that you are programI know him the great lofa. Yeah,
did you did you realize that youwere that you're mute? Your mic

(01:09:42):
wasn't muted. No, I ammuted it for just that one time.
Oh it cracked me up. Yeah. I thought it was fun, just
fun for so um. Yeah,well before I forget again, got the
graphics novel from the bloke you hada few weeks ago, Monsters among Us.
It's quite good, awesome, Yeah, thank you, thank you,

(01:10:10):
great videos during your break. Thankyou so much. Thank you. Appreciate
that he does a great job withthe ones and and their commercials for other
other people like uh my D andD Game. Yeah yea. I wish
more of the shows would create acommercial or or send me stuff so I
could do it for him, becauseI'd like to put more of their individual

(01:10:30):
commercials on when we're on UM weshould be sharing that, you know,
everybody should be you know, doingyou know, other people's stuff. But
I wanted to talk about real quick. Um. Christy London, Christy London,
we love her, Yes we do, Yes, we do. And

(01:10:53):
then Mike Ann yes, um.And and just so everybody knows their show
is on Tuesday night, Tomorrow night, um, and that it's called Where's
My Sage? That's also Where's MySage ter a normal Bigfoot type show.
Um. They talk about the universeas well as she does readings and stuff.

(01:11:14):
I think it's fantastic. Um,but there's something really special going on
in a couple of days. AndI know, and then you reminded me
that mercury retrograde. Mercury retro grade, I think, So what's going to

(01:11:36):
happen to Wednesday night? Then?So mercury roger grade is just usually a
disruption in communication. So when Iwas doing my show, um on Tuesdays,
because my my show is Tuesday nightsas well, my tari Tuesday.
Um, one of the things Ido is roll call. And so when

(01:11:57):
I do roll call, I literallyallow spirits to come in and then I
name who is there? Planetary Gatorade. Oh my god, you're so funny.
Anyway, So the thing is isthat Mercury had been coming several times
and telling me and letting us knowthat it's not going to be as much

(01:12:18):
outside influence communication issues as it wouldbe internal community. Oh okay, all
right, So it wouldn't surprise meif a lot of people are experiencing more
like blood. They can't talk properly, they're mixing shit up. My bosses
having a hard time remembering where heputs ship having yes, having those are

(01:12:40):
a communication issue problem, right,And the shadow happens. There's our Christie
and there's things that happen before.So you have the pre and post shadow
phase of mercury retro grade as well, so that on all stop going on.
What is she doing? Oh dothe fricking retrograde? Oh yeah,

(01:13:08):
let's pull the mic on me.Hi, everybody, this is a rare
event. I threw a little bitof eyes, shed a lot, and
I keep tipping everything over. I'min Pj's. I like fluff my hair
and went Seve bitch like somewhere inthe Thruway this thing. So this is
rare for all of your viewers.I usually I told Teddy like at seven

(01:13:34):
o'clock, like ten after seven,I was gonna finish my show. We
know, it was even before thatI was going to finish my show.
It was like six something. Iwas going to finish my show and then
I was gonna do my my eyealersion. Well, listen, I couldn't
help myself and I had to turnon another show because I'm being watching Discovery

(01:13:56):
of Witches because I've read the booksand I love them so much, all
right, so I could not helpmyself but watch another one. So I
had on Lush Free is Discovery ofWitches. K It's so I love history,
and Deborah Harkness is an author andshe's actually a um, she's actually

(01:14:18):
a historian. And so what shedid is she kept having all of these
really cool thoughts and she'd write themdown every now and then she'd she's like,
I don't know, and then shewrote a whole like it's a three
book saga Discovery Witches. It's calledthe All Souls Trilogy, and it mixes,

(01:14:39):
it mixes vampires, demons and umwitches with humanity, oh damn,
and history. So I love history, and I love these amazing places that
it takes. So that's it's itis, really and and taking from the

(01:15:00):
book to the movie or to theshows, it's pretty it's pretty amazing that
they seem really really on with whatthe book has said, and they have
Deborah Harkness right on set, sothat okay, Deborah, what would what
would this one do? And this? And and would they do this?
And and I love that they actuallystayed so much so true to her work.

(01:15:24):
Awesome, It's it's a really goodshow. I would recommend it to
everybody. I just got I justgot done finished. I just finished up
Loki. Oh that's a big onein my house. That's huge. I
haven't started Loki yet. Love.Yeah, we we like Loki too.
Jo. I think has started Loki, but we haven't finished it yet.

(01:15:45):
I haven't. I haven't started itpersonally, you know, I just have
to say, Cindy, but thehell, man, I told you I
was impetus, and you would putlipstick on during the break. I'm like,
okay, I'm like telling myself,going shit, they're pulling the mic.
I mean, now I gotta godo something with myself. I did
last and then here you are withlipstick. Your hair is all cute,
Like, okay, you know what, My hair is not cute? Girlfriend,

(01:16:06):
Look at this. Look at myeyelashes are right here and look like
little spiders on my computer. Youhad responded to me and I'm like,
oh, add I saw my mymy my lip gloss or my lipstick is

(01:16:28):
over here. On the day,I'm like, oh, add moment,
let's put some mistick on it.And the hot flash thing, it really
sucks. Seriously, you and Iare going to be a pair. I
dressed a layers the days and theyusually end in a tank top, so

(01:16:50):
that's it. Don't be surprised.On the same way, Mike's probably gosh,
it were younger than I am,though, right, Christian, my
not find that much. I'm fiftya little bit, but not that not
that much. I mean I'm oldenough that I'm starting starting to feel it.

(01:17:13):
The part is I did not havea hot flash one until after I
turned a big five out. Butthis is the thing. I was like,
I don't want to be not havingmy period anymore because I was a
weird one and I love, Ohyeah, you're weird. I love having
my period every month because it mademe feel like I was cleansing my body.
And he's so crazy flocking out theconversation. How while we're talking here

(01:17:41):
anyway, I really remembered saying somethingwhen I was fourteen. I was literally
almost fifteen when I got my period, like literally too real away from having
started. I was almost fifteen,Literally I was nine. Oh my gosh.
Well, this is the thing isI told myself the first day that

(01:18:02):
I got him, like, Idon't want to have my bermory. I
don't want to have my berory.I'm like, okay, it's all right,
this is only till I'm fifty.I'm only okay, I could do
that fifty and I'm john got it. Well, how the fuck did I
know that I was a powerful witchwith psychic abilities at that point and I
freaking just made a whole spell formyself that when I turned fifty it would

(01:18:27):
stop all the things we learned.I'm sorry, Ted, if you want
to interject here at all. Isee you don't have a night to commiserate
with. That's the problem got ushere, you see, I have so
much fun on probably I can alreadyhear it. I know what you're thinking.

(01:18:51):
And he's like, he's like,thank God, it's not me,
not me. Yeah, I haven'thad since July. Why I had it
in the month I started, themonth, ended the month, and I
haven't had it since Well, haha, I got you being on that one
all the way. I hit ita lot longer than you did, because

(01:19:12):
uh, you know, I hadsome issues and that took care of that,
and that was it. Nothing major, major, but enough where I'd
said goodbye and I have not missedit. I waved goodbye, said good
riddence, but never again. Iwasn't having bleeding issues and my doctor's stuff
said Cindy, we can give youan ablajon and you won't have to worry

(01:19:35):
about how your period anymore. AndI said, no, what are you
talking about our mom my period?He goes, do you know you're the
only woman that would ever say thatto me? I said, yes,
I understand that. Oh yeah,okay, can we get off the period?
Please? No? Yes, Imean it's just all right. So

(01:19:58):
thank you, thank you, thankyou, Mike. It's going to be
a long night. We keep upwith those comments, Buster, and it's
gonna be we can make it aseriously long night for you men. Absolutely,
I love Barry so much. We'retalking about the paranormal. You know
what normal for you guys? Arenormal for you guys? Yeah, that's

(01:20:21):
right, and it's absolutely very foryou guys, you know, not for
anything, but especially if that's whatyou get. That's called karma right there,
love yous at that you guys don'tunderstand. Those cycles are just like

(01:20:42):
all our other cycles. And youknow what that especially as mediums and everything
else. If we can, ifwe can't, not that it really stops
us, but it definitely affects howthings work sometimes, and that's you know,
that's But also think about it thisway, Christie, I mean,
think about when our hormal are high. I mean I warily think and wonder

(01:21:02):
about investigations in that way, likecan we attract more um energies to us
because of that that link. Oneof the things is is when I've been
on this spiritual journey, one ofthe things was is if you were on
your moon, you were not allowedin the sweat lodge. And I didn't
know that really I was told becauseshe Now it didn't just open. I've

(01:21:33):
been doing this women thing, allright, So let's let's get to the
thing at hand here. Um youknow, so let's see tomorrow, folks,
I am going to the location andsetting up cameras. All yes,

(01:21:56):
you are. So I'm going tobe there setting up many things tomorrow tomorrow
or Wednesday during the day Tuesday,Tuesday, because I'm not gonna want to
do it Wednesday because I gotta workWednesday. Yeah, okay, so I'm
going to do it tomorrow considering I'moff tomorrow. So, and what we're
talking about basically is there will bea live investigation we will be doing too.
He's on the road. Oh ohyeah. He had to work and

(01:22:18):
then he had a project after work, so he's literally driving home. That's
what I said. He's probably thinking, God, he's not definitely I'm going
on tennis any show right now.He's like, yeah, you So,
I don't really hear him in myhead saying that right now, and I
can just see him. His faceis probably turning around and he's left taking

(01:22:44):
right now. Yeah, there's betterbe a little bit of sympathy from Mike
right now, going oh, Igot you, brother, hold on,
I got you. What Mike wouldbe saying. It's so funny because when
we did the when I brought Breeover to the Evan and last spring and

(01:23:09):
um, at one point during thenight we were sitting in the right You're
ridiculous. Oh my god. Ihave this picture of Ted and Mike sitting
in them into the chairs and justin the waiting area outside by the dusk

(01:23:30):
there, and they're both on theirphones, and the way they're sitting,
they look like they look so muchlike I was laughing. I looked at
the picture and I gotta take this. It's hysterical. They're just both booms
sitting there and they looked like twins. Mike Sharlotte likes cream. You don't
come on, Teddy, let himhave it. Hysterical, so yas,

(01:23:54):
But we're really looking forward because soif you, if you guys can't tell
from night how it's gonna be.Yeah, So so Wednesday night we're gonna
be going live around the time arewe supposed to get there? What time
are we getting there? I onlyknow really where we're going. I don't
even really know what we're doing.Yeah, I don't know anything about the

(01:24:15):
start, So I will fill everybodyin and I will don't. I don't
want to know about it. Younever want. He's not allowed to tell
me anything. So time we're supposedto be there? Okay, So so
basically, uh, what is OhMike just sent me something. Oh he

(01:24:40):
did reading Chanel. I don't knowwhat did they say? See now he's
feeling left out I knew that restingperiod fa I got a Mike's resting period
phase too. You really can't seeit because he's in the dark. Oh
my god. There. Oh it'sgot to be killing him and he can't

(01:25:06):
add his two cents right now.Ha ha. Well all right, so
so let's get into okay, Um, so here's the thing. Being an

(01:25:27):
EmPATH totally. I tell people allthe time, being an empathopause has got
nothing on me? Are you kiddingme? I am ready plus some for
after being an mpath with way mybody temperature goes up and down on it's
Oh, it's awful. Yeah,okay, go ahead, and our people
love you guys. Um, okay, so here here, here's the deal.

(01:25:50):
Um. The owner of the locationthat we're going to is going to
be in Kildon in New York.And there are two buildings. One was
built in eighteen ninety three and theother one was built in the early nineteen
hundreds. And UM, basically we'regoing to go in, um the eighteen
ninety three building and see if there'sanything there, um, because there are

(01:26:10):
stories, but I'm not going totell you any of the stories. I'm
not going to tell you that information. So okay, Um, there is
one thing that is weird that hashappened in the past couple of weeks there
and I'm not going to tell youwhat it is, but it did throw
everybody off. Um, So we'regonna go separately, right, and we're
just going to communicate. So we'regoing to so so, um, maybe

(01:26:34):
we can separate who our group peoplenormally would be. So me with Mike
and you with Teddy, that wouldbe fine. I think that's a yeah.
Right, I love it because I'mnever going to get anything so much
when we can, we can corroborateand stuff. It sounds good and I

(01:26:58):
agree. I agree. So andso there are three levels. Mike is
going to be with me. No, I can't really see a space,
turn and run. Take a pictureagain, Mike in the dark, because
we're going to see you going yes, Eric partner, Robert's just like just

(01:27:23):
accepted ted No, just accepted Mike. So there are three floors to this
building. And I'm not going totell you any more than that because there's
a lot of history there in alot of different ways. Then we're going,
okay, so then we are goingfrom there. Um that just across
the way from it. Actually behindit is the actual bowling lanes, and

(01:27:46):
there is stuff that is happening there, and I myself have been experiencing things
there. Um, and and we'llgo into that as well. Now the
business is open till nine o'clock.Okay, okay, so I will have
and and Sheila Oslander. Um it'sgoing to be joining us as well.
Here is going to be ashual.You didn't know that? Oh yeah,

(01:28:11):
oh yeah, I'm so excited.I miss her. Yes, he already
knows that's the way it goes.He doesn't get a vote. Since when
does he think he gets at thatway? He just knows. So so
you know that the two already.I agree with me. Your vote would

(01:28:33):
be null and void exactly. Wow, your vote, your best vote is
just to go along with the vote, right yeah, yes, Eric,
we are doing live feeds from there. We are going to be doing one
I know of at ten o'clock biggestWorld's Largest Ghost onn No, that was
that was last week. That isjust that is just for w LFE.

(01:28:58):
We're doing a live investigation at tenclock Joe. So we have something of
two of our shows from WLFE workingtogether in something that we can actually give
to our audience on several outlets,which would be great. Um, And
I think it's been great. Infact, what I was going to say
was, Sheila is coming with aDVR system that is going to be set

(01:29:18):
up in the Bowling Alley. MyDVR system is going to be set up
in the bigger room in the biggerbuilding. Because I have sixteen cameras,
she only has four, So we'regoing to have a lot of a lot
of things going on. My handI have four, I have ten o'clock.
I have four handhelds in which Ican actually make six handhelds if we

(01:29:41):
want so. But let me letme fill you in. We have Christy,
we have Cindy, we have Sheila, we have Ted, and we
have Mike. We also have theowner of both buildings that is going with
us. Cool and he did sayto me today if there's anything there,
I'm never going back in my building. Oh my god, he's so funny.

(01:30:04):
But that's just John. He's funny. Yeah, don't want to know
now then. Um. And wealso have the bartender from the Bowling Alley,
the head bartender or managers like that. She's a managing bartender that is
going to be there as well.Um, and it's just yep, shammon.

(01:30:27):
So um we have them joining us, um as of right now,
that's all that's going to be there. Okay, Yeah, I have been
to this place. I was dancingmy ars off, so I was nothing
you never, I don't believe itother than dancing and making everybody else dance
with me. The only other thingthat I was thinking about is if that

(01:30:50):
if I had two other people andmaybe I can get my nephew to come.
Actually, if we had somebody followingus with cameras, that way we
didn't have to hold the cameras.It is always nice. That is nice.
Yeah, that that is very helpfuljust filming. I may have.
I may have that as well.So if there's two extra people, it

(01:31:11):
will be that only. So,um, send me a ticket on a
jet. Sorry um, but yeah, So the whole thing for this,
and just so people know that,the owner has expressed to me that,
UM, if there is stuff thatwe find, we're gonna tell him it's

(01:31:34):
a demon and he because he's goingto my office in that building and he's
gonna say you stay there. I'llbe in the bowling alley I'm okay with
that, but I'm just like youknow, Umney, there's the history of
that places outstanding. I have beendoing a lot of research on that building

(01:31:56):
myself. I've fallen in love withthe building I really have and the stories.
I should say, I fell inlove more with the stories. So
can I can? I just can? I just bring up two things and
I pick up on already and justsee what you say. No, you
can't, because I've already too.You gotta just write it down and write
it take it with you. I'vealready been wanting to do that, because

(01:32:19):
if you say it out loud,then we've tainted ourselves. I know,
I know, he's so no funHe's funny. You know. That's why
I'm having no pad he writing itright now. Bill said he would come
and he would come and run theus up in here. Dude, do
that for us. I'm sure Icould find some pot for you. I'm

(01:32:45):
sure I can too. I don'thave it. I don't smoke it or
do so. Yes, um So, ten pm on Wednesday we would be
going live. Um And as ofright now, it's going to be on
WLFE, It's going to be onPARA talk radio. It's gonna be on
the YouTube channels. It's gonna belike seven or eight destinations, all right.

(01:33:08):
And I'm sure that Mike and Christiewill be setting up on O Theirs
as well, which would be onWhere's my Sage YouTube? Um, we're
both we're gonna be running two differentfeeds. Um, there's and ours.
I'm assuming. Um, Jason,there's my Bible. And just so you
know, Jason, I ran yourcommercial twice tonight. Yes, so,

(01:33:32):
um, there you go. Barry, you can You're close enough, you
can come run a camera, rightBarry? All right? Son? Mike
the link he wants in? Doeshe? Oh Jesus, that's not good.

(01:33:57):
My god, that was so eeringa little bite that I overwhelm him.
And it makes me giggle and laugh. It makes me see my pants
laughing. Are you kidding me?I love watching him get all flustered and

(01:34:17):
are terrible. Not love. Wejust like to have fun with it,
Teddy, go with it, right, go with it? Talk about demons.
You are ready for this. Idecided to add my own accent Robert
so um I could, but Ihad to get up at four. I

(01:34:43):
gotta get up for work at fourfifteen on the next day. Well sorry,
Barry, wait next time. Sothe thing is is that if we
do get something, the owner,as I was trying to say earlier,
is the owner would like us tocontinue you on our investigations there if we
decide to get something, because youknow as well as I do the one

(01:35:03):
time, it doesn't really a wholelot. So um, there is stuff
that would go there. Um.Some of the really cool information about this
location this is that it's also alocation for us. Um that if anything
happens with the Rochester Parafest we havea new lake, new location, this
would be the location for it.Um. I can't wait. It's been

(01:35:25):
so long. It's going to beso much fun this year. Oh it's
been two years. Everybody's so excitedabout it. I know. Well we
did it in twenty twenty and thenwe got shut down right after him.
Yeah. Yeah, so twenty twentytwo is the next one. So been
two years. Yeah, yeah,it'd be great. And uh um,
Christy calling in that's right. Ohman, Oh look at it. He

(01:35:57):
just left. See you should creep? Are you Hitney left? No?
Knowing him as much as he ismy tech guy and is good at what
he does. He that was probablyjust a Mike thing that that was a
wait a second, what I wasgonna say too? Damn it? Um,
what kind of Christie's gonna do?You started to see Christie's going to

(01:36:23):
be doing Christie is going to bedoing uh, it's going to be doing
a UM on Friday night. Yeah, Michael, did you pull over him
that? There's a pleasure pulled overwith your thing? Sir? Are you

(01:36:45):
in your car? Because I'm areyou blinding yourself? It's not I'm in
the dark. I'm always in thedark. But oh yeah, that's the
way we like you. So that'sgood. Channel wants to come to the
parapet She wants to come to shutup a table. Oh yeah you should.

(01:37:08):
What do you do? All right, here's Mike. So, yeah,
I've been listening. I know usedword, but I knew they didn't
have to have it. If Iwas talking to you directly, you would
have to have to say so,and you couldn't do it without being Yeah,

(01:37:31):
he's like him, Mike in theDark says Barry. Yeah, hello,
man, Oh my god, Ijust I think this should be a
new show. I think that wouldbe fun and it could be It could
be a big food thing, rightMike in the dark, or it could
be very it would be weird.Okay, can you change the subject please?

(01:37:59):
I have to like work with thisguy now, you know what I
oh, trust me? Hey,Mike, do you want to swap po
thing for a day? You can? You can help talk radio in a
house. Where's my sage? Doyou want to swap just one day?
Find today that might happen? What? What did you say? Shut up,

(01:38:23):
Michael, say it again. Idon't know. I might have another
big foot of venture. I needto go on. So oh so is
that what you were doing tonight?No work. I had a special project
I was working on for some folksto me, um very welcome to the

(01:38:46):
hot that's about it? Oh yeah, the comic relief. We can we
can go a list from the phonesand the talent. So okay, well
that's I have been working on.I went and bought these lives. I

(01:39:12):
went and bought the live captures sothat I can connect this to my cameras,
to my handheld cameras so that Ican go live. I'm just retarded
or something, because I can't figureit out. I don't know what that
is supposed to be there. Whatdo you want? Like? What does

(01:39:39):
this do? I would say bysitting on my forehead, it does not
do anything. But we usually goin, so I usually go in earlier.
It's gonna I want to know howthat just stuck the teddy's head.
Has you got a metal plate?And is that magnetic or right? The
whole thing was like a card orwhatever. It's probably sticky. See her

(01:40:06):
too, Um, yes, myplan is. My plan is is is.
Um, I'm going to be thereearly. This is the way love
yourself first. Well, I'm planningat being there Tuesday to set up microphones

(01:40:27):
and cameras and all that stuff aheadof time for our side. Um.
She was going to be there onWednesday prior to the investigation, setting up
cameras and stuff as well. I'mhere, okay, I'm like myself.
Colors, no, Jesus, no, you do the story of a man

(01:40:48):
named Baby who was busy with threeboys, but there were four men all
together, yet they were not Ithink Michael's had a rave. Mike's aid
a rave. That's what he looksfrom a wave area. I love it

(01:41:11):
feels like Tedni sticks out really rockfand formerly known as Mike. What is
that we should start the music whilewe're there Australia? Yeah, not going
on then to Teddy? Did youhear me? Know what I said?

(01:41:33):
I think we should turn the musicon during part of our investigation to see
if we could get some stuff thatway too. Well, you know,
trigger effects are going to be important, especially for there, because there are
certain things that I know. OhI just heard more. Okay, I

(01:41:55):
can't wait, I can't. Ididn't show anybody. I didn't get myself.
Oh my god. Sorry, I'mjust trying to catch up on the
comferenary. Oh my god. Yeah, So what time do you want us
there? What time should we getthere? Are we pre gaming with like

(01:42:19):
dinner beforehand? Or you can?You can? You certainly can? Oh,
I mean all of us? Iknow I can. Well, I'm
gonna be there from I'm gonna bethere. Uh. I have to open
the bar at four. So that'smy job tomorrows. I have to do
from four to Mike left us again. I have to be there from You

(01:42:44):
know what, he's a busy body. He's always messing with ship. He's
always pushing buttons and trying something elseand scrolling them up or doing whatever.
I'm like, can you just metchit alone and just just stop focus?
And if Christie keeps it up,she's gonna be looking for another host.
He'll never leave me? Are youkidding? We have too much fun?
Yes, it's much like, right, Mike, I'm not agreeing to anything,

(01:43:06):
so it's more dangerous for you willnot agree with me than you do
agree with me. Wait, you'reputting me in with them? Okay,
how dare you clo? That's right, I'm supposed to be grouped with YouTube.

(01:43:30):
I'm my own guys in trouble allthe time. So I am sure
the audience for both shows will bevery entertained. Oh yeah, is I
try to keep my composure. Ithink most fun right there for me especially,
I mean, I don't know,I can't seek for Christie. However,

(01:43:56):
the most fun that I personally willhave, I think, you know,
because we should see if Mike isI think we should see you we
can turn red. Yeah, well, let the audience keep track, like
I'm so gonna get its like,do whatever you want, but just don't

(01:44:19):
touch the red button. See um. No, honestly, I think we're
gonna have a good time. Withthis, I also feel that, um,
there are gonna be some things thatare gonna be very unexpected, I
hope because being an EmPATH, Ican tell you myself. There are things

(01:44:41):
that let's just say, people canbecome very moody at the bowling Alley.
That's because it's alcohol. I'm justsaying, I just alcohol. Oh that's
improper. We're not going to talkabout that. But yes, we could

(01:45:05):
be there early. If if everybodywould like to show up between six six
thirty and actually have dinner, thatwould be great. We we do serve
dinner. Um fancy. Yeah.In fact, if you guys really want,
I'll even make baked zd a hata time and bring it with me.

(01:45:27):
I never said that a pasta.I mean, look at me.
Come on, So I've got WednesdayBill, Wednesday four gifts. I got
four gifted people because we got Sheila, which means I need to bring a
whole bunch of stuff to debunk whateveryou guys say. That's right. Oh,
I say, Oh, I sawwhen he said that I'm the only

(01:45:55):
because I'm the only one to getit. But all I saw. All
I saw was the big tin coilhat on Mike's because I know you're not
including yourself and he's not including himself, Sheila, he said us and Sheila
for right, he never includes yourself. True. He's the one, he

(01:46:17):
of our of our duo. Heis the one that goes in and looks
for all the practical stuff. He'sthe one who will debut at all.
So yeah, and you too,Well, I'm just saying he's gifted as
well. I'm so glad that you'recalling him out and it's not me for
a change. I don't know whatyour kids are talking about, buddy.

(01:46:40):
Oh yeah, I don't know.Once you kids are talking about helmet,
that's it. That's it. Ardello. Did you see Armadillo? Yeah,
Armadillo helmet helmet yeah, sos hazardYeah. So you know the thing about
these two buildings, I think we'regonna we're gonna find really enjoyable. Is

(01:47:01):
that? Um especially now um andthis this weather and where we are,
um at this season because it's it'sfall, Um, it's getting to Zuka.
Well, I just know there's beena lot of things happening there lately,
and so it's stuff that well,I do believe it has something to

(01:47:24):
do with the season and where we'regoing and what we're going through right now
with the mercury retrograde. So there'sa lot of happening. I mean,
and you guys might have said thisbefore while I was trying to throw myself
together, so I didn't completely freakout your your guests on or your your
viewers. But um, the veilis just so thin right now. It
is howevery this is September to December. This is like prime time. So

(01:47:46):
I mean that definitely helps too,helps or doesn't help, depending on how
you look at me. And youknow, I and my boss. Um
he is, he's Yugoslavians. Sothe belief system that he has is so
different than ours. Okay, okay, so interesting. Um, he doesn't

(01:48:06):
necessarily believe. I don't. I'mjust saying he doesn't necessarily believe. That's
what I'm saying. Ye shut up? Who is that? Well? How
about no, come put your headdown here. So I don't know why

(01:48:29):
who is that? That's my sonJansen? Hi Jansen? Hello, Look
at the hair? How old areyou? He just graduated? Oh congratulations,
I'm taking over your show. Goodluck? Well man, he is
so your son Jansen? You shouldcome with us on the investigation to Wednesday.

(01:48:54):
You can hold the camera whatever,whatever. Don't you have to work
on Thursday morning? Colin sick,Good morning. Docs like Mercury retro grade
got me like I need a safeWORDE kicks pres every single time. It's

(01:49:17):
all awful. I've been going word. I mean, I've been going through
Let me grab something, let megrab something quick. Okay, this is
mine right I don't give me mine? Please right here? Please give me
mine, Please give me mine,Please give me? So what's the audience

(01:49:39):
want to see? I guess youknow what? What is your audience looking
for, Cindy for us to comecome up with on Wednesday? And uh,
you know, we'll check with ouraudience tomorrow. Yeah, so what
do you guys want to see?Is there anything specific you guys would like
us to do and doc behave?When I see my dance on top of

(01:49:59):
the bar, Oh my god,do not because I'm sorry. So I've
been playing with alcohol. Did youthat I've been playing with some extra choice?
Even better? I mean I neverdo though I could dance on the
bar all the time, I neverI mean I literally have pictures and video

(01:50:23):
of me dancing on the bar inNew York City. Okay, can we
get serious here? How do wegrow up in the same neighborhood? Makes
perfect sense to me? Like youyou were down in Rochester, right,
Yeah, I'm bringing my R twoD twos. You wait, did you

(01:50:48):
get him to work? Um?So I'm bringing both of these as well.
These are gonna be in the See, you're pulling out your stuff now
makes it go pull out his stuffoff and then your hair, your stuff.
We're gonna talk about there. Itis there. It is starting to

(01:51:10):
show the dick with your phone rightnow. I'm just saying mine was already
here to mine was already in thecar. Okay, friends, we're just
gonna put a pole out there thatthe bigger dick, Mike or Patty.
I mean, I mean, wedon't care whose boobs are bigger. Yeah,

(01:51:34):
I'm probably gonna bring this as well. Oh, gotta get the gimbal.
Oh, absolutely, get the gimbaltoo. Hey, you know this
is a performance here. I'm justsaying, we got a lot of equipment.

(01:51:55):
We're taking a lot of equipment,lot of equipment. Yeah, I
clean everything out of my jeep.I put it all back in again.
We're gonna have We're gonna have morecameras. We're gonna have more cameras than
we know what to do with,you know, So maybe we won't overkill
it, and we'll just use whatwe need. See. I don't like

(01:52:15):
a lot of equipment. I don'tusually I have an slows We use it
once in a while. I likecameras and cameras, some baking soda or
some flower or some talcum part seriously, and I you know, I commented
earlier, I always have the bestluck with flashlight. I still do the

(01:52:35):
mag light. It works the best. He has never he never has good
luck with them. Did you seewhat Bill said, Christie, let's not
discourage the boob contest. No,I don't see that. Where mine doesn't
work anymore on YouTube? His isYouTube. It's chiefly paranormal. Yeah,

(01:53:02):
Robert says, Oh well, Imean, okay, listen it all fairness,
chief. If those guys were willingto show up through booms, I
am all for it. Like listen, can you teacher Canadas? Right?
We're talking about them, right,they're doing the way guys are killing.

(01:53:30):
I don't have any water in here. Oh my god, there he is.
I can't control mine and I'm certainlynot going to try to control yours,
Michael. I was trying to lookat the comments, and I keep
pitting the wrong No way, Really, it would have been easier for me

(01:53:53):
just going and get the laptop,but topless chair at the bowling Illy,
You're gonna need a bigger tree.This is starting to look like a scene
in Jaws movies where the three guardsare on the boat. Kevin Smith.
Kevin Smith more than Jaws. Butyeah, really, doctor Reilly, doc

(01:54:20):
Oh great, I like so Mikeis like on that night, no light
district. I don't know what.So if anybody is interested in dinner,
just let me know. I mean, we can do it, and I'll

(01:54:42):
have it done ahead of time sothat we don't have to you know whatever.
Silly, silly chief exactly control andwhat you want to right, Guns
and tamelessness, shooters and hooters.I don't know about you, Mike,

(01:55:11):
but I'm making sure I pack alot of extra batteries. Those are for
the fun choice the night again,sounds like a Friday night. And wow

(01:55:32):
batteries. Oh, I don't carryrechargeables. They don't last very long with
me. You might truck right nowwith what's with all those lights flicking up?

(01:55:53):
And that's new book, how toControl your psychic co host. It's
only one page. Not to controlyou can't control. Hey, hey,

(01:56:15):
hey, you are not supposed togive away my secret? You being jerk?
Wait? What did might do?I mean? And it's not just
tw No, that's how to makeyour psychic fat okay, not control your
no. No, this is soundedlike Brian Rochelle's for travels from a week

(01:56:39):
ago Instagram. Funny, yeah,Brian Rochelle. Oh my god, they're
hysterical. Hysterical. Marry just said, hey, wait, aren't those lithium
energizers? We don't need, guys, Let run a show off the rails

(01:57:01):
in five minutes. Twizzlers, Ohokay, well what do you do with
hot to my lady? I don'tknow if I want to know, listen,
listen. I have a couple ofgo tos, Twizzlers, hotsmellies like
and ikes and cheeseburgers. Everybody herewould know. Go ahead, guys,

(01:57:30):
say it in the comments. Youknow what I would like to be eating
if I could be hooding? Ohman, I could just wow. So
many different directions. Wrong shows,INDI wrong show I know, all right,
exactly exacum what I said, Ted, what did you dragged me into?

(01:58:01):
You wanted to come here? Don'teven drag me in it kind of
like because you already got the clownknows out. I saw it. It's
in your hand. That's truly.That's more mental torture for me. I've
seen it once that okay, twizzleswith chocolate chips. No, she'd rather

(01:58:24):
be eating. Oh why did yourig that out loud? I told you,
Mike. I wow, this definitelyhas gone off the rail. Yeah
for sure, I did not wouldif he would just like, sit on

(01:58:54):
his hands. He's like a fiveyear old, sit on his hands,
just stop touching everything, he'd befine. That's hysterical. I miss What
did Robert tell me? I don'tknow. He said, I told you,
Mike, all right, So whatdid he say, letting the psychic

(01:59:15):
out of the box. I don'tknow. Is that what he's talking about?
Making it worse? I wouldn't knowwhere you get raspberry licorice off the
rail? Lots of places. Yeahthen, well then, partner, I
absolutely expect that I will think youwill be presenting me. So did you

(01:59:35):
see what Jason said? Off therails. The train, it's a bullet
train. Is a bulletin listen nowhe definitely for that bullet train. Yeah,

(02:00:00):
I'll figure that out. Teddy.Well, she's working with her bullet
train. That's not what they callit, but not a train. Sorry,
but mine went somewhere else. Mike, my favorite two a year old
not touching things. All I knowis that just sit on his hands,

(02:00:28):
right, I've been wanting to dothis investigation come in, Mike for months,
but he said you shouldn't come in. That's what Robert said, you
shouldn't have come in here. ButI knew this was going to happen,
so he to. Oh yeah,and he's just as bad. Don't let
him fool you out exactly. Hejust he just has more fun playing the

(02:00:54):
innocent us. We don't care.Ain't anything wrong, right, Oh,
he can hold his own and thensome on, my friend, somebody has
to play a babysitter. And oncethis makes you guys will really have fun.
So wait, who needs a babysitter? Right? Wuld you be talking

(02:01:20):
about Willis, rabbits and bullets forthe win folks. That has been a
great show tonight. Jesus, OhGod, I can. We'll be here

(02:01:45):
till Thursday. Please try the veal, Please dry the veal, keep your
waitress on the way out. Don'tpay. I just hope I don't need
bail money at the end of thisnight. Shut up. Well, you're
the hol You're one getting us out. You would be the one. I'm

(02:02:13):
just saying serious, because we willsick the karma on you, my friend.
Oh the karma has been sucked onme. I can't I'm literally crying.
I can't stay crying. Oh man, what God, that's hysterical.

(02:02:47):
I have been trying to get itfrom you out. That's what Teddy was
saying too. Well, if wecan manage to stay serious for just a
couple of minutes before we have toget out of here, whoa see there's
a trouble here right there? EveryJohn Yeah all right. So um,

(02:03:11):
just overall, it's like yes,Wednesday night, around ten o'clock ten pm
Eastern Standard time, we will begoing live at some point. Um.
I know that I have set itup on stream yard to go out to
a few different places, um,and we will see what we can do
at that point. If all elsefails, it'll be on YouTube. Um.
Depending on Facebook, because Facebook isin a lot of trouble these days.

(02:03:31):
Um, and we'll see what happensthere. Um, we are investigating
two different locations, which are actuallyone is behind the other. Okay,
adjacent, I guess that's the bestway to put it. Um in the

(02:03:54):
same neighborhood. Yes, in thesame neighborhood, and we'll see, We'll
see what happens. And we'll seewhat happens because there's a lot of stories
and people that I have interviewed havetold me things and I just flooded.
So um put in a plug.Yeah, I turned it time for that

(02:04:20):
one. Okay, So there areadjacent buildings. History totally definitely has a
lot of crazy history. Yeah,a lot of different things. Do I
know, famous people, the wholedeal. So, yes, there's a
lot of things. Um, it'snot gonna it's not gonna start. I

(02:04:45):
think for us to get set up. That's why I'm going early. UM,
so I will be there if youguys want to do dinner on Wednesday.
UM, I will be there early. And um as soon as we
close it nine roughly nine fift whatever, we can get people out of there.
When we'll actually start. Oh,listen, I can round some people
up and get him the hell out. I can do that like chot chat,

(02:05:11):
motherfucker. So, um, itis biker's night, so there will
be lots of bikers there. Ohthat'll be fun. That would be so
anything bikers. Where where can Ihave a ride on you? I just
want to see? I brought myown helmets. See there's a reason Mike

(02:05:43):
Susan the red light tonight because thenit just hides hard ride he's really getting
because we called him out on thatalready. Absolutely. Oh my god,
she said, Cinderella, did youshow heard the pick I sent you?
Who show who this pick? Yousent me a I hang on a second,

(02:06:06):
my mom sent me a pick.I don't see a pick mama.
Oh oh dude, this is foryou. Oh thank you. And that's
extra special because those are the onesmy dad used to buy, because he

(02:06:27):
would buy those and then just takehandfuls to all the the hockey games and
all of the different sports events forour kids, for my sisters kids and
for my kids. So it's awesomebecause so that is your dad. You
can get a reference from that.My mom sent it at ten o two
to me, which is my mom'sbirthday, my mom's birthday and she's passed

(02:06:49):
away, So that was cute.Two Just so you know, I have
that same container of twitters at thebar. Yay, goot, good,
awesome. Yeah, we even hadit as funeral. We set up like
a table and we had one ofthose for people to take and like some
of the other candy he always isknown, like Life Savers was huge peppermint,

(02:07:10):
and Larry Green was just so Cindy. There was something else I was
going to tell you tonight, umwas that the World Witches Dance is no
longer doing their thing. So ifyou could find a whole bunch of females
I want to do the World WitchesDance thing, maybe you could put together
your own, which is routine witha dance. Wouldn't that be cool?

(02:07:30):
Maybe She's like, hmmmm, Ido it with everything else that I'm doing.
I'll do it, And it's justit would be hard. So because
I have one, one, two, three, four shows in a week
and then I'd have to try andfind someplace to do rehearsals and have all
these people there. I'll find somebodyto do it. We'll figure it out.

(02:07:56):
Yeah, because I think it'd bereally cool. There was there was
was, Um, there was agroup and I don't know remember much about
it. And actually he would actuallycould stand for longer than six or seven
minutes at a time. Mike mightremember who they were, witches or witches

(02:08:16):
him do it? So don You'llhave to come back up here. There
was a witches group dancing at MichiganParacount this year. Oh really, yes,
And I have the thing right here, Michael. Do you remember who
the witches group was that performed atMichigan Paracount. No, I can.

(02:08:41):
I can go back and take alook. I think I got them,
So you got I got the Yeah, I just didn't know. You're usually
better remembering that stuff careful. Mightthe real red and Blues might show up.
He is the real red blue.Yeah, I can't remember. That

(02:09:01):
was a pretty good sized group too, It was, it really was,
and they were really good. Well, you know, it was just weird
because Rochester had one and they weresaying that she had a hard time keeping
people interested in doing it, andyeah, so I think it's great.
I mean that was it was phenomenal. I mean later and uh, you

(02:09:24):
know, if they could uh,I mean because they had Trent dancing two
years. It was so funny.You could get Trent and Steve Calls and
Kenny Irish and to do what todance? Sudden magic, Mike music,

(02:09:48):
Magic Brown Brown Brown. There yougo. I think Mi magic Mike go
go Magic Mike go. Um butwhat seriously, I said nothing. I

(02:10:09):
would really like to find a stufflike that. But Buddy the big Foot,
I mean, we have Buddy andall that stuff. So and we're
actually actually we're putting one in Missouri. So we'll have a Buddy the big
Foot in Missouri as well. Ohcool, budd he's getting around. Yeah,
he's in Missouri. He's in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and New York.

(02:10:31):
Awesome, Yes, it's pretty cool. Hey dumb he said he would do
the thing. Oh I want tosee that the comments again, and hopefully
I don't lose you guys for thefifty yet. Could you not listen?
Five year olds? Sit on yourhands. Oh boy, nobody under the

(02:10:54):
age of eighteen can watch this show. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to
get Buddy the big Foot in inMissouri. Troy told me um that they
would find somebody for me, SoI want to put them in as many
states as I could. Ye couldhave Teddy sit up to the side playing

(02:11:15):
evangel Well, Buddy needs to domore TikTok's then, right, If I
could get the Buddies to do thatwould be great. Cool. Um,
well, well, the Naked andAfraid Club actually took Buddy to their party.

(02:11:37):
Wait, what was that. Nakedand Afraid picked up Buddy took him
to their private party where the productioncrew and all of them were together.
Buddy's banned. Yeah, so yeah, it was. It was. It

(02:11:58):
was great. So that's fantastic.Yeah yeah, so but um, I
just I just wanted to, youknow, let everybody know I had a
time that was on here that wedo have something going live on Wednesday,
and it's gonna be US four,which will be fun. That's all.

(02:12:20):
Wait a minute, you read myshirt. Ladies, you were supposed to
point out Michael, you're just kindof I love it. I think you
we are matching outfits on Wednesday.Look at I'm enough with the matching elephants.

(02:12:46):
I had enough of that. Atthe Saucequatch Festival, he was twinning.
He went to Sasquatch Festival and heand Steve Cals ended up where it
wanted to sail. I spoke atthe Whitehall Sasquatch Festival. I show off.
I got out of the car.I look over and Calls is dressed
exactly the same way. No pants, black shirt, you know my usual

(02:13:11):
run. He's usually camoed out.No, he's wearing black hole ka pants.
Yea, so they called each other, that's what you're saying. Somebody
got the memo, but I didnot see. I think you in touched
the twin on Wednesday. He's gonnahave to start wearing a shirt. I
am not Steve Calls. Wasn't abad thing, Nope, not at all.

(02:13:46):
Oh, man, so funny.I mean we can always take some
of these. Oh where is itover the other? Yep? Oh,
there you go. I'm touching it, Mike. I mean we do have
Buddy the big Foot stuff that Michael. I'm here. I'm here like it

(02:14:09):
looks like the band player on deliveryBoy. You got a party, math
so you and so you and Teddyyou're gonna wear red matching T shirts on
Wednesday. No, no, negative, I wanted to wear Speedoss a white

(02:14:31):
T shirt. You're going to havewhat T shirt contract for you guys,
that's right. Not want to seeMike and spiedos. No mind what Hi
Carl m hm who lack of pekum. No. I'll probably be wearing

(02:14:56):
black though, because that's what Inormally wear when I in my investigations.
So there he is there heating thosebuildings or no, um, the secondary
or the first building, the onefrom eighteen ninety three does not, So
you make sure you bring sweatshirts.Oh my god, wait we Christie?
What wait? I missed it?I was brand. Mike had asked if

(02:15:20):
if thanks Christie down a no forme? A budgee smuggler. I never
heard of such a thing. Bananahamnet. Yes. Anyway, Anyway,

(02:15:50):
Mike as the different buildings where heated. Teddy said, the older one is
not, So we may want tobring a sweatshirt. I said, well,
Christy and I probably won't need one, right amen. Sister Doc says
black is slimming. Jeddy, thanksDoc, John's and short Jimmy's, but

(02:16:20):
neither of their names are Jimmy.Never mind, now it's a bad joke.
You see my face? Wow,stop trying to hide. No,
just because I'm about time. Mhmm, I'm packing for Wednesday. Maybe

(02:16:43):
you can catch your run. Itwas really good night. Thank you,
Barry, Barry. They had agreat show tonight was very good conversation and
get ready to be touched in Paul, who can't wait? Wow? I
probably should have paused and given us. Should have slowed your role a little

(02:17:07):
bit. So who's getting stuck withme? Now? Oh? You and
Cindy there it is. Look atthe space. You're gonna be swapping.
You're gonna be swapping. So Christieand I are just gonna be together.

(02:17:28):
I'll be able to talk if ohmy god, do each other. No,
my plan is my plan. I'mstanding there in a dark staring at
each other. So we enjoying this. Did you get that? And you'll
be going did you get that?They'll be going? What see? For

(02:17:52):
me? I don't mind going withMike because I'm gonna be doing my debunking.
I'm gonna be doing my experiments andstuff like that. You two,
you know, I mean, weusually go around Teddy before the investigation,
so we I know you do.But I'm still going to be doing my

(02:18:13):
thing, you know what I mean. So I should definitely go separate.
Yeah, we have to do ourown separate walkthroughs before we start. But
we always need somebody to be ableto talk to us. Yep. They
have to do the voices in theirheads along with the bullets. So listen,

(02:18:35):
I only need a little bit oflyrics. Do you do? So
what I will do? So thenwhat we'll do is is we'll send like
Mike and Christie through and then meand City through or whatever. How Brianna
do it is in teams at first, or we do one and one and
then we swap whatever. It's justnobody's going in alone. And the other

(02:18:56):
thing is is that digital recorders orladies, you can take your notepads and
reach it down if you want oneof us write down what you're feeling.
It's got to be a flow ofconsciousness. For me, writing is too
hard. I won't be able tokeep up. I do, but usually
when I'm doing something like this,I don't write it. When I'm working,

(02:19:22):
like doing parties and shows and I'mdelivering messages, I have my notebook
with me and I really oh yeah, always yeah, I do. I
handle I conduct gallery readings differently thanmost because when I prepare and even before
I prepare for the show, oreven just a one on one with somebody.
I'm already receiving information, so I'mwriting it down, So I start

(02:19:46):
with that. I lead in withthat because I'm already tapping into their energy
spirits already coming forward to talk tome. Spirit guides, already done their
thing, and it's like, yeah, I just go right and do it
and then we go with the flow. So but with something like this,
I don't generally tend to UM haveto do that as much. Well,
I'll have my digital record around me, so normally when Cindy goes through,

(02:20:07):
I just record everything that she says. Perfect. You get that, Michael,
take notes, No, what Iwas going to say, Are you
bringing a laptop or note? Um, I was planning on it. I'm
gonna leave it in like the Andthat's the other thing I sort of wanted
to talk with you guys about andthat I just remember it, so thank
you, Mike. UM, Iwill be bringing my laptop. UM,

(02:20:30):
we're probably going to use the barin the um Bowling Alley to set up
our like that's where we'll leave ourstuff is in there to be like our
command center. Yeah. Um,and except four in the other building because
that's where the big DVR system hasto go, so I have to designate

(02:20:50):
a place over there for our forour place over there as well. And
that's why I want to go intomorrow because I'm not sure where I would
want to put a command center inthere, because he's very open, it's
very see if there's a Wi Fisignal well in the big room probably or
in the big building probably, notin the bowling alley, yes, so

(02:21:13):
hot spotty. Oh yes, thatpuck goes everywhere. I've never used a
puck, so I don't know,and I don't give a puck, but
you know so I've never had apucket before. I'm gonna try something new
that I know of that you newthings. I'm gonna bring my Chrome book

(02:21:39):
and I'm gonna try to see ifI can download some voice recognition software and
instead of the old fashioned live listen, I'm gonna take the ox chord,
run it from the h digital recorderto the laptop and see you guys do
EVPs what we get and see ifwhatever software I find is able to convert

(02:22:05):
that into text. M M.I'm bringing my I'm bringing my tablet as
well as my laptop. Did youwant me to bring my laptop, Teddy,
I don't think so. I thinktwo should be enough. Um too
too, too, too too,you know. Um, But there's a

(02:22:28):
lot of experiments, experiments I wantto do. I want to bring some
of the old school stuff with meas well, and we get some of
the old school working. Um.I mean, this is this is gonna
be. We're all friends, we'reall good people. We know each other
well enough that we can do thisstuff and trust each other and not enough
to know that we're not going tofuck with this stuff. So you know,

(02:22:50):
I can, I can. Ican put this stuff out and say,
hey, you know, I knowwho was there, and I know
you know. Um well that's important, you know. And that's why I
love Orcadia guys enough select few,because we can joke and have all the
fun in the world. And thisis just fun, right. Yeah,
we get in there, it's stillare different. We have a respect for
how we all work and then it'sserious and we have that respect in that

(02:23:13):
consideration and that gratitude for each otherand for spirit, and that's what's important.
So we need to do it andstill have fun. But there's a
time and a place and that's whatI love. Yeah, yeah, Google
Docs has a talk to text function. Okay, I'll give that a shot.
Bill. Bill says, I lovemy hotspot puck. And the funny
part is is Robert then says downa few which he can't see docs because

(02:23:37):
they're on two different No, Puckywith the genie in the bottle with the
genie in the bottom. Hey,I man's running Steve Cole's show in the
middle of the woods on the mountainthe other night with it hot spot.
So wow, we should be ableto do it. Does that cost you
to have a puck? Yeah,it's it's your data. It's just yeah,

(02:24:03):
but it's gonna attached to your phone. I mean, is that something
that you can do with Verizon?Yeah. From Yeah, but it's it's
a it's a it's own supper device. You could use your phone as a
hotspot. I just happened to Irun that and we run, so we'll
be able to run. If Christybrings her SLS, we can actually Yeah,
I can do that, run theshow and do everything right from usels

(02:24:24):
or one of the tablets. I'mcurious to know. Can the l This
is something that I've always wanted toexperiment with. Can the sls be set
up in a room by itself andrecord what's happening there were right, Yeah,
I'm bringing my new my new thermalset up, which is you used

(02:24:46):
to be the seat for the phone, but I've moved into a tablet with
some other editions and we can actuallyrun that as a live record thing.
So pretty cool. Yeah, soBill basically has a second line on his
SELFI plan for his his WiFi,for his hot I'm just wondering if I
do that, because I could.I could actually just do that, get

(02:25:07):
a puck and just you know,and there. And there's a new one
that's it's gpspace that I tell everybody. You know, if you're gonna be
up in the mountains you need somethingsafe. They have one like uh for
spot that's uh your text and everythingelse like that, so you can call
and receive. You're not gonna beable to do a show or something like
that, but yeah, you canget ones that are satellite on a regular

(02:25:31):
just depends on where you are.So yeah, folks, I tend to
talk way too much tech. Umoh yeah, talking a lot of tech
if I'm on So that's wait.Yeah, well i I've been trying to
hook my R two D twos tomy hot spot and I can't figure it

(02:25:52):
out. Oh I can. Stat'sreally easy. Oh is it okay?
Oh yeah, okay, I guessmy that's helping too. That's the reason
I gotta puck because I got reallycheap security cameras and if we were out
in the field, I put ahot spot inside the vehicle. I take
the cheap security cameras, which weremagnetic base, I put them on top

(02:26:13):
of my old jeep and we leaveand we did it down in Chataka County.
We're on a big foot thing andwe got told there nobody goes up
to that place. And Christie whatwe were out five minutes from the location
and the first set of vehicles pulledup, getting out and do everything stupid
around the cars. And then yousaw the security cameras and they left.

(02:26:33):
So I've also used them down andyou know, I was waiting for what
did I miss? I didn't understand. I just noticed it too, as
Robert say it. No, no, no, no, no, like

(02:26:58):
what I'm not even I never payattention to the trees. That one yeah,
yeah, that one, yeah,that one is there. What it
said was I didn't understand what itwas. No. The only thing I
don't know it's like he started anddidn't finish the sentence. It was just
like what you talking about talking about? It was a legitimate question. Are

(02:27:22):
we talking about or a penis?Right? Okay? So oh jesus,
I'm not answering. I do believethat we need to set up a we
need do need to set up anotherone of these with all of it so
that we can do a review ofwhat we found. Oh, I think

(02:27:43):
that's a great idea that I don'tknow what you guys have. How far
out you guys are on your show. I don't know how far out you
guys are. Um, well,it doesn't really matter because we're Tuesday and
you're on Monday. So right,No, I'm just saying that, I
let me look at what I've got. Um, Robert White, glue your

(02:28:09):
hands together, Michael, Robert Whitesays, I'm gosh darn it, I'm
gonna glue my exams together. Welcometo my world, everybody, What are
you doing? I just want tosee if this thing will eight hundred hours
later in twenty five oops, whatthe hell did I do? Is?
And hey, it's good, Butthen he does. That's cool. So

(02:28:31):
does October eighteenth work for you guys? Hm hmm, No, probably gonna
hit the wrong one. No,why don't we do a special show?
Yeah, we could do it ona Wednesday. I can't I work Tuesday
night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night. October.

(02:28:52):
We can do Actualber eighteenth. Whatare we doing on October eighteenth?
Well, I might have another engagementalready. That's a commitment that I something
that Michael's not thinking about right now. Now. I'm doing Hot Plea right
now. I mean, unless wedid it a little later maybe, but

(02:29:22):
um, well, I mean wecan do. We can do ten o'clock
as far as I'm concerned, wecan do nine o'clock. We can do.
I mean that means work. Let'stalk about it Wednesday, okay,
right, let's do that. Let'syeah, because there are some things going
on that I gotta make sure I'mokay because the only other time after that,
just so that everybody's aware, unlesswe do a special show, which

(02:29:45):
I could probably get away with ona Tuesday night or a Wednesday night.
Yeah, you know, we can'tdo Tuesdays. Why we both have shown
show just now for five hours.It's right, do you do? Girl?
Can anybody? Can anybody do aSunday night? Yeah? I mean

(02:30:05):
as long as it's as long asit's a fan. I'm trying to do
my I'm trying to do my allsigns on Sundays. Hear what my all
signs reading? Well, well,okay, we're gonna we're boring your your
your your fans out. We willsit down over dinner and work on Yeah,

(02:30:26):
that would be good. Ye yes, doc, I got it,
doc um So so all right,So then I'm gonna expect you guys Wednesday
at what six? Six thirty?I'll say six. I'll come out at
six. I'm twenty minutes away.It doesn't make a difference. I get

(02:30:48):
there what I'm told. Yeah,I have to leave here at five o'clock
to get there by six o'clock.Oh and I have a friend of place
to stay. So it's all good. O you still do? Oh?
Yeah, but I there's lots ofplaces that I can. Have you talked
to? Have you talked to Jenniferif you have on end? No?
Yeah, talk to her? No, not like the last place you wanted

(02:31:11):
to send you. The last placeyou send any stop I've spent I'm not
gonna say anything. Ye oh Jesus, he said, I've spent many a
night in that place. Oh yeah, great spot. You don't want to
know. Yeah, we're good,we're good. There is mountains, but

(02:31:33):
from eight years, the only otherplace that I can think of is like,
you could probably go to geneseeal,but it's still like ten minutes away.
Yeah, No, that's okay.I'm okay with driving a little bit.
That's not a problem. I'll figureI'll find it. I'm used to
going out to that area. Idon't mind that place that we do the
thing in that's in gene Yeah,the quality end, well I thought of

(02:31:54):
that too. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. What's avail ranked Scooter?
Hey Mike, what's going on withthe Bronze Bear or the place that
you're that? We're not involved inthat anymore? Oh is that gone?
Somebody else owns that. We're justwe're just not involved in it anymore.
So okay, I said, shegot a new job, so we're not

(02:32:20):
okay them anymore. You do knowthat the uh Fillmore Hotel has got brand
new owners as well, and wedo know that there's stuff going on there.
Where's that? Um, don't saywhat it is? In Fillmore it's
a hotel. Smart. I can'teven with you guys going nuts Fillmore and

(02:32:45):
go back to Anastasias too. Ohyeah, what's Anastasias. It's in Portageville.
We did a live show from thereyears. It was our first live
investigation show. I would love togo something. It was awesome. Oh
my god, it was so funny. My gother shit scared out of Look

(02:33:05):
at his face. He already knewit was coming. Oh my god,
it was awesome and it wasn't evenanything, but somebody really walked in and
he thought it was but he wasjust Ye was so funny. I thought
everybody was in the other building.And I turned in. There's a face
in the doorway, and I'm like, what the hell? He goves out
of the chair. Solvania and it'salso up for sale. The Livonia and

(02:33:30):
it's up for sale, and thatone's gott haunted. Uh stories as well,
Chetti, because I talked to theowners. There were interesting the American.
I'm very love the American. Butwe can go again. Yeah,
I think we should do more.This would be super fun. I think
would be the four of us doingmore would be great. Yeah. I

(02:33:54):
think it's a great little thing.Yeah, yeah, because we would totally
have fun with it, just tocheese Mike and get them under ay,
Cindy. Then you would have toput Bonnie Swift in there somewhere. Who
she is my oldest investigator on myteam, and she has she's like an

(02:34:16):
I just did older. I know, an older investigator, pothead, like
an old pothead, like not pothead, but like an old She's very cool,
very cool. She's she's the one. She's the one that fell down
a flight of stairs at the FillmoreHotel and when she landed at the bottom,
she started laughing really really loud.So we all come running and and

(02:34:43):
uh, they had stripped all ofthe rug and the sponge that was under
the rug down to the bottom,and that's where she landed, was on
top of all of it. Andshe was just laughing her ass off the
whole time, and like you couldhave seriously got her. She goes,

(02:35:07):
I'm fine, Oh, we gother. We got When we first took
her out to a live investigation outin the woods, to a location she
had never heard a deer um inrunning season before and all you heard on
the all you heard on the microphonewas, uh, what the hell was
that? I don't care. We'renot supposed to run? Ted, getting

(02:35:30):
that all you want? I'm running. Here's this leading running out of the
woods, Ted, I got theaudio for that. I have to bring
it with me and play. Well. Hey, you know she's running out
the woods and her partner's not leavingher in the woods. I think she

(02:35:56):
did lead me too, but Ilove her more. Yeah, she's gone
to some really good places lately.Yes, yes, yes, she likes
wildwoods so and I've never been towhile love is really Mike, it's creepy.
I have anything I want to gothere. These are places on my

(02:36:16):
list. Oh no, that's aplace that everybody the night over, and
by the end of the night we'reall huddled up in the middle of the
floor in the living room, goingwe're too tired to drive. We're too
tired to drive. We can't stayhere. You try to drive, we
can't see. And literally everybody's gottheir airmances just right on top of Jory.
I don't know who you people are, but yeah, we're all sleeping

(02:36:37):
right next to each other. There'sa room ups the bed. Nope,
no, no, no, nobody'sgot dollar room. Nobody's going in the
room at night. I'm gonna go. Let's go, let's go, let's
go. I'm telling nobody go togo. What was that? That is

(02:36:58):
what I would experience on a regularbasis for a while when I used to
use my AirPods, which is whyI'm using the regular I don't have that.
It's strange that I said, hey, let's go do something and then
all of a sudden matter. Yeah, well, kids, I just realized
what time it is and I gottabe work right, great bright nearly yea.

(02:37:26):
Well, it's actually because I felldown my basement step. So it's
one of the therapies I go for. So's Yeah, it helps a great
deal. So I gotta go watchmy w WE so and I used to
go watch Discovery of which is becauseI can't stop myself. Sydney, And
thank you for letting us be onwith you guys tonight, any kind guys,

(02:37:50):
Thank you your fans. We'll seeeverybody on Wednesday night. Join us.
I love you, yes, loveyou guys. Join us. We're
looking forward to It's gonna be fun, all right. And now Mike,
you're gonna you're gonna start a feedon and where's my stage somewhere for that
night? Yeah? That feeds yep, maybe I should do my own two.

(02:38:13):
No, let them do it,because you and I need to be
focused at night. They can handleit, they're used to it. It's
it's easy enough for us to dropdrop them and go. You and I
gotta be like, is a kid'sat one point? You guys gould add
mine on there? Right? Yeah? Yeah, it's easy enough. I
just decide where we're going. Youknow, this is a ghost need to

(02:38:37):
go to my big foot stuff,you know, and we can pick another
grab another channel and throw it.You know that. Thank you, thank
you. That's fun. I handedthis had fun. We had fun.
I yea. You know, ifwe started investigating more, we all started
investigating more. I'll make us somereally cool T shirts because I got I've

(02:38:58):
got the machineans and all that shitsitting here. So, oh my god,
it's gonna be the Odd Company,Beauties. Never mind, you don't
get a T shirt. The OddCouple, the Odd Paranormal. No something
did I say, Cyndy laughter,butt off? The Odd Couple. What's

(02:39:18):
gonna be huge? Oh my god, it's gonna be the odd couple should
be. That's what I said.Yeah, the investigation, the beauties and
the beasts, that's what I thought. I like that. I like that.
Well we're the pretty ones. Mike, you better not mess with the

(02:39:43):
beast. That's all I got tosay, Robert, perfect, you couldn't
handle this beast. There you go. I like that. Voices, right,
what can you say? Yeah?Yeah, why do they hear voices?

(02:40:07):
Yeah? That's the front paranormally outand on the back and print it
says, why do I hear voices? All right, guys, all right,
we'll talk to everybody soon. Whatdo you got coming up this week?
Cindy? So, I have uhtarot Tuesday, which is seven pm

(02:40:28):
Eastern Standard time right here? No, no, not right here. I
take Sandy on YouTube or Twitch,and then uh Sunday I have with my
friend Robert white An with our dM, which is Jason. Um.

(02:40:50):
We will be on the and yes, I will be there, guys.
I don't know if I told youyet that I'm going to be here on
Sunday. So, um, SundayI will be on uh what is it?
Uh the bipolar GM and we willbe playing D and D and then
also I have my Live for theTerror all Signs readings that we are doing

(02:41:15):
week. So there we go,all right, and then come back to
Monday and we have our show herewith WLF dot com. The only thing
I got going on as the fourof us right here, you see us,
the four of us. We're gonnabe on an investigation on Wednesday and
evening Wednesday. UM. I havenothing else planned other than work, um,

(02:41:35):
except the fourteenth. The fourteenth,I will be at the Avon Library
at six thirty doing a lecture onthe paranormal UM. Basically, it's it's
just gonna be more or less ofwhat the paranormal is UM and what we
can prove and disproval. So it'sgoing to be that type of stuff from
from me did he um. AndI'll let you guys know at that point

(02:41:58):
hopefully I'll have my schedule and whereelse I'll be giving lectures through the all
network bills was paranormally challenged, Yeah, I know, we like it.
I like that one. I likeboth of them pretty much. That's gonna
be it for me, UM,and we will get together and decide on
a review. So that all youguys can figure out what happened after this

(02:42:22):
mess tonight and you guys, whatdo you guys have coming up? Michael
Housewives, Carly and Tara. Theyare freaking hysterical. These girls are funny,
witty stage Where yes, where's mystage? So tomorrow night a PM

(02:42:50):
Eastern Standard time, right here,right here, right here, right here
night, and then I don't know, I might be popping into some other
shows. There's been a pretty goodscientific discovery we're working on. So I've
heard that there's been something I canright now. So well, Mike,

(02:43:13):
you're gonna have to tell me onWednesday what you're talking about. Yeah,
well, there's actually been a lotof stuff I've heard through the grape Fine
lately that a lot of things havebeen being seen and heard that have not
been seen and her in a while. So I don't think they're moving around.
That's so funny. I just wentto some there was a new Mochman
experience like four days ago. Well, I'm telling you there was, so

(02:43:37):
listen. I want to tell youguys about this really quick because it's crazy.
So my son and his friend wentto the local elementary school and they
had gotten on top of the roof. We're not even going to go there,
Mike, you didn't hear that,however, the roof and there's woods
in the background the background, andthe boys, um, we're talking about

(02:44:03):
this experience that they just had.And I was raining last night and stuff,
and there was a couple of thingsthat had happened. So this is
what's interesting. I'm like, well, do you guys want to go?
Because Jansen had said, okay,Mom, you gotta come here, and
we got to talk about this,and I said okay. So I went
and picked up Jansen and his buddyand we were all talking about it,
and I said, well, doyou guys want to go to the school.

(02:44:24):
And I don't think they really wantedto go to the school, but
I'm like, let's go. Andand it was still drizzly, you know,
raining out and right now yeah,right now, yeah. So I
start walking and all of a sudden, I can feel energy. I'm like,

(02:44:45):
oh shit, I feel magic,Like I could feel an energy shift.
And the weird part was is Ididn't say anything before I had said
that part to them. My skinstarted getting getting all like got the chills
all over my whole entire body andI felt it and then doesn't Jansen's buddy

(02:45:07):
go. I just got the chillsand Janson said me too, and I'm
like, that's three for three.I said, that's crazy that we all
felt it because it literally was likea force field that we all went through.
So he said it and it wascrazy. We all felt something there
and that's so really cool. Thatwas really really crazy. Yeah. Wow,

(02:45:33):
I just want it out there too, that I have a show that's
going to be coming out hopefully inthe next couple of months. We just
finished filming, right. No,I was on that station fear I wish
I was. Yes, No,that was I was on that episode of
the statler Um And it's called UMwhen Darkness Falls and they're editing. They're
editing it now. It's a localgroup that I worked with and we went

(02:45:54):
to two different areas. Are differentlocations in the area. Is it a
YouTube series type thing? Actually,it's gonna be on Quasum on the Firestick.
It's going to be on quas andthe Old Vision. I don't even
know what. Yeah, it's ElizabethSaint owns it now. And so I
worked with UM and Awakened Paranormal andI joined up with them, yep,
and we did so we do walkthrough as we do. It was a

(02:46:16):
lot of fun. Um, Tomand Katton thead are really fun to work
with. Sometimes Dan Class, sometimesKevin Smith's. Yeah. So it's amazing.
So hopefully hoping the next two monthsit'll be out on the first season
and then we're going to be workingon hopefully looking into the second systems.
What what I say, God,dass, break was not a good thing.

(02:46:41):
I am doing subliminal messages, guys. Yes, it's for you guys
to buy more T shirts. That'swhat Trader like. Hell. Shrader's a
nice guy. We get to spendtime with hes awesome. He's been on
here and and he wouldn't leave.He just kept popping back. Yeah that's

(02:47:05):
so cool. O God. Allright, guys, So we got to
get out of here just so thateverybody knows. UM, Next Monday's real
quick. Um Next Monday. Ihad that earlier and forgot who it was.
Um Next Monday, um is that'sI like seeing your face? There

(02:47:26):
you go. You Next Monday's guestsright here, I'm paratok Radio eight pm
is none other than Jenna VvE umcool, Kelly andrews Kelly that will be
here with us. So Jenevieve fromum the Creepy Parlor, she is gonna
be with us very next Monday ateight o'clock. Yeah, because her show

(02:47:54):
is off right now. She's workingway too much, but we were able
to. It's on a hiatus rightnow, but we're able to snager and
get her in so we could talkabout I love her. I gotta run
so I'll catch everybody later, allright, guys, All right, guys,
so don't forget uh, Cindy,you know what time it is,
so you do. Okay, guys, good night, everybody, get Christy.

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