#237 - Paratalkradio Welcomes Sam Baltrusis - Paratalkradio Hosted By Ted & Cindy

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from J Wolf Production Studio in Ontario, New York. Here are your hosts,
Ted and Cindy. Everybody figured i'ddo it a little different by throwing

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you up there at first, becauseyou usually do that high everybody, and
I figured i'd give you the thespotlight first. You get a spotlight.
So how are you doing, mydear, good honey, how are you?
I'm cold right now, Burd,I'm ready. I'm refusing to turn
my heat down until it's November.Okay, I'm I'm nestled in my little

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spot. Um, it's a littlechilly, but not bad. Getting ready
for everything. Been working on thePARAFS. Got some great names coming this
year. Oh my god, I'mso exciting. In fact, our guests
tonight is going to be one ofour guests at PARAFS. This is going
to be amazing. I spent theweekend with him at in West Virginia at

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the UM Martinsburg Roundhouse. Yeah,great guy, did go you're a little
He's a great guy. I meanwe talked and I like him. He's
cool. I'm I'm good with thisguy. So um, you know,
you know, if I didn't likehim, i'd say, yeah, but

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no, I like this guy.I'm good with him, so I think
he's good. Um, Hello,you're gonna say hi to everybody real quick
before we get why don't you dothat? And then we will get our
guests in here because we have lotsto talk about it. Um, Hi,
Chanel, how are you doing?Honey? I just want to make
sure that you are doing well?You see she cuts she cut her hair

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off. Yes, yes, ohmy god. I was like, what
did you do? Girl? Shesays, missed you too. I know
we've missed you too. Hi,Fabian, how are you it? Says
Hey, they're Sam Bull Truth Truss. Yeah. Um, that's so funny,
says Hi Chad. Um, that'sus, that's us, that's us.

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Oh my gosh, where is ourpeeps? Okay? Hi Berry?
Like Hi, Robert, there yougo. I knew they were in there.
Loves it. She loves her hair, really adorable. Well, you
know, there's I just didn't expectit, that's all I'm saying. I

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just you know, I was like, wait a minute, what did she
do to her hair? No,but she's good. She's good if she's
happy with it. I mean physically. She's had a lot of things going
on lately, so I know that'swhat I've heard. Well I think her
and her son both were in withinjuries. Yeah yeah, so but pieces

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praying things are good with him,So never fear. We are here.
Robert White says, right, thankgoodness for you guys. There it is.
I need to share this with mymama. There, you go share
it with your mama. I'm alreadyshared. So you know, um,
you were saying hi to Sam onthere, and Sam is actually our guest.

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Yes, that's what I figured.Yeah, well you figured right,
man, you're a good psychic.I should have said, how guest.
Both of you would have been like, how fuck does she know? All
right, so our guest tonight,guys, let me read the little bio
that I have here for him,if you don't mind me reading it.

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My my chat is blowing up overhere now, well, not not this
chat, the chat for I toldyou that I joined a dart league,
right, what league? Dart league? You know, throwing darts? Oh
yeah, no you did not.Oh yeah, it's it's just blown up
on a on the other page.Drive me nuts, okay, all right,

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So Sambo Trusses, and that's BullTrusses. That's how I'm saying it.
I'm hoping it's correct, it,says author of Ghosts of Salem and
featured in the Curse of Lizzie Borden, which I want to talk about,
Bill Truscis. That's it, that'llwork. Bill Truss Okay, author of
Ghosts of Salem and featured in theCurse of Lizzie Borden, has penned more

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than a dozen paranormal theme books,including Mass Murders and Ghosts of the American
Revolution. He has been featured onseveral national TV shows, including Travel Channels,
A Haunting, Most Terrifying Places,I know you don't like that show,
Most Terrifying Places, Haunted Towns,and Haunted USA. In twenty twenty,
he made a cameo appearance on severaltelevision shows, including Paranormal Night Shift,

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Most Terrified or Terrifying with Jason Hawes, Our Buddy, and Forbidden History.
He also appeared in Freight Club withthe Ghost Brothers and Jack Asbourne on
Discovery Plus, Which is very cool. Bell Trusts says a sought after lecture
who speaks at libraries paranormal related events. Hey that's something we got in common.

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Yes, you do paranormal related eventsacross the country. In the past,
he has worked for VH one,MTV Newsweek, and ABC Radio and
as a regional stringer What's a Stringerfor New York Times? Gotta figure out
what a stringer is? And youcan visit him at any time at sam

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bull Trusts dot com for more information. I was right, he said,
I think it maybe Baltrucius. That'swhat I'm saying. That's what I'm saying,
Barry, that's what you're saying.Berry. Okay, so let's get
this. Let's get this gentleman in. Are you guys ready? Please give
Sam a warm welcome. Here isSam, Hi, Sam? Hey,

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Yeah, you totally massacred my lastname right. Yeah, you said it
right, Sonny, So you getpoints who Teddy didn't. Teddy's grounded,
So listen for the record. Teddywill usually say, Okay, you say
this name, Cindy because I can't. I I'm terrible you did, because

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when we are set up like this, I don't have I can't say it
unless he send it to me aheadof time and then I can read that.
Yeah, I'm terrible at names.He's not good with it, and
that's okay. Yeah, I washaving natural flair for it, bounced the
ball, all very true house assists. I have multiple but but yeah,

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so it's okay. It's totally okay. People have massacred, even big name
people have massacred my name on TV, so it's okay. I'd feel like,
oh my gosh, did you hearhow he's done my name? All
right, mister Robert White says,good day Sam. He is from Australia.
Good day, very smart saying HiSam. Hello, Okay, so

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what are we saying? Author?And what else are we calling you?
Sam? So so city? I'mout. I'm also clairvoyant and yeah,
I came out of the crystal closetor the clairvoyant closet during curstal Zi boarden.
So I've be't you know, I'vebeen a clairvoy all my life,
but I've been kind of hiding behindthe shadows. I didn't want to go

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public with it. Nice I understand. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's hard.
It's it's especially when when people knowyou then they say stuff like and
this is what I received. Soyou may have still understanding, Um,
well, you never acted like that. Before. You never said that before.

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Well, I mean my close friendshave known it my whole life,
my family has. But it's justI didn't go because I was a journalist.
So I worked. I've written fourteenbooks, and I tried to be
like when it comes to writing thebooks, I've tried to be objective.
So I didn't really put the clairvoyantpart. But as my books progressed,
So I'm my most recent book thatjust I've just got today, Ghost to

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the American Revolution. Yeah, soI actually I'm full blown clairvoyant in this
book and historian. Yeah, I'mgood with that one. That I may.
I may get that book because Ilove revolution anymore. Oh my god.
So it's kind of it actually worksreally well because I, you know,
I go to one of the chapters, I go to Philadelphia, and

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I kind of like try try tomeet Benjamin Franklin. So I go to
all the locations that he's been spottedat the fantastic Yeah, And so I
went to I went to Philadelphia andthen so I went to the cemetery where
he's been spotted. Nothing happened.Um went to there was a library where

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he supposed he dances and didn't seeanything. So I go to where his
old house was, and there's amuseum and there you can see the remnants
of what was his bathroom of allthings, like the Privy it was called.
And I was looking down like youcan look down like du glass to
see the bathroom, and I hearda voice behind me go, that's where

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George Washington relieved himself. And I'mlike what, But I turned him out
And it turns out Ben Franklin hada potty mouth, and uh so,
yeah, yeah, so that's typicalBen Franklin. Wow, I'll bet you
did too, well. You wewe never heard story. I mean,
we don't know what these people saidand live like back in the day.

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I mean, we weren't there,so I'm sure that a lot of them
had potty mouth. Says he putit. You know. I mean look
at you, Cindy, when youdie and you pass on and your ghosts
around. I know that if Ihear somebody in my bedroom say the F
word a lot, I know whatyou what the fuck are you still sleeping
for? Let's go, boy.Jenna Vieve says, Hi, everybody,

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she is from the Creepy Parlor.Awesome, awesome, Um yeah, Kimberly
party. Yeah, Kimberly Potter says, hello, Sam, Hello, um
what is this here? Channel saysJefferson had one too, and he is
at his home in Virginia. Ohoh okay, all right, good to

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know. Yeah. So apparently beenFranklin has written about um like far jokes,
like they had a whole book onSo so when I say mouth,
I need to find that that wouldbe some funny stuff. So, you
know, Sam, we had wewere talking before this that we were both

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at the same event and stuff,and um, I this is the first
time I got to meet you inperson, and I think you're a wonderful
guy. You know, got greatenergy, great energy, you know,
and even though it wasn't what weexpected, it was still fun. I
mean, I'll tell you right now, if it wasn't for Buddy the Bigfoot,
people would have been bored as hell. We were just we were just

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sitting there and it was like,I mean, let's let's let's focus on
the positive. The positive is I'venever been to mark Martinsburg, West Virginia,
and I've always wanted to go,and to be able to go and
to actually be surrounded by history.It was it was amazing. Like,
so the actual structure, it wasan old railroad building where they had railroad

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strikes and uh Confederate War, youknow, like all these these moments in
history happened at that location. Rightup the hill was a woman named Belle
Boyd who was a Confederate uh spyduring the during the Civil War, and
so it was it was just Iwas just overwhelmed with the history. But
yeah, it was kind of likewe were like, I'm like, buddy,
please hug me. Like I waslike, I'm like, please,

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someone talk to me. Please.I was just talking to the ghost the
whole time. Very I understand,Daddy. Actually, I can always make
friends wherever I go, human ornon human. Look at this, hay
Ted, I'm not related to Harry. It's Porter, not Potter. I

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was wondering, like Potter, Ijust a tongue in front of my eye
teeth, and I couldn't see whatI was saying. I'm sorry, you
know, I apologize. So Chanelsays, I have a copy somewhere of
his jokes from his papers. Igot it at a history museum in high
school. Interesting, okay, wellyou know where to send a copy right
here? Yeah, So, Sam, I want to talk about the Curse

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of Lizzie Borden. I mean,how how did this start? How did
this start with you? Anyways?How did you get involved with that?
Well, one of the things thatyou and I talked about and something that
you mentioned when you were lecturing tolike zero people, I'm just joking,
but um, the whole whole roomof ghosts. Um. But guys,

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it was filled with ghost of likeof the Civil War. You had a
crowd. But anyway, so,um, so when you were talking about
immersion, So I'm big about immersionjournalism, and so you said something that
really I'm like, yes, yes, When you said that, You're like,
I spend years, you know,months sometimes years at a location before

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I even consider writing about it orcoming up with coming up with an opinion
about the location. And when yousaid that, Ted, I was like,
he's gonna be my friend, um, because I'm like, that's you.
So I'm big about immersion journalism.I have years and years of experience
with the Lizzie Borden bed and Breakfastand Fall River. Um. However,
I didn't know something that which issort of focus is the focus of the

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TV show which features my good friendDave Strader, also Chris Fleming and a
woman named lou Anne Jolly h Andso I'm related to Lizzie Board not once,
but twice. So it's not it'snot the ball Truss side, which
you know, that's that's the Lithuanianside. It's my mom's side, which
is her last name. Her maidenname was Hughes. And so that whole

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lineage is stained with blood. Wehave not only Lizzie Borden, but we
have other people that were tied tofrom my mom's family, which is originally
from Rhode Island. So Portsmouth,Rhode Island was sort of the the hub
of a lot of what happened insixteen hundred seventeen hundreds, but it continues
all the way to modern day,so that the relations Actually we're tied to

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Marilyn Monroe, which came out duringin the documentary. We're also related to
Eileen Warnos, the serial killer inFlorida. Yeah, it's crazy. So
I come in as a as atalking head to the show, you know,
like Dave's traiders, like Sam,you know, why would would tell
us about the family curse? AndI was sitting there and I started to

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channel and I was like, ohmy god, this is like the worst
time for this to happen. AndDave, Dave of course, was on
the Holsier files, and you know, Dave's like, let's do the Holser
method. And the Holser method iswhere you have a trans medium go into
a trance and you ask questions andyou kind of walk that person that's in

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a trance into asking questions. SoI I go into I go into a
deep trance. And I've I've hadthe ability to I'm a light trance channeler,
um, but I don't like togo deep. But I went deep
with this one. And I wassitting there and Dave was talking to me
and it was almost like am Iwas trying to fight it, but this

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woman was rushing in and as awoman who is also related to us,
but not by blood but through marriage. Her name is Eliza Borden, and
Eliza Borden was the mother of threechildren and married to a laud With Borden,
who was was our blood relative wholived right next door to the Boorden's
house, but she forty years beforethe murders that happened in Fall River.

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She were uh Abby Borden, whowas her stepmother, and Andrew Borden were
murdered savagely in that house. ElizaBorden killed killed two of her children,
uh, and the third got away, and she took a straight razor and
committed suice that after killing her children, she pushed she put them down a
well. Uh and the children drownedin the well and the third child got

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away. So I start channeling Alizaboard and I don't remember much from it
except for she was desperate to helpher children. She's like my children,
my children. So you'll see meon the show, and if you if
when you watch it, I'm cryingfor two hours on the show, Like
I'm like, WHOA like the cryingguy? And it was she was super

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emotional. People ask me, areyou okay? Are you okay? I
will say that her emotion, itwas her emotion and not my emotion,
correct, But I will say thatthat it did affect me for months after.
And when I say that it wasjust so powerful and like it was
such an intense emotion that it tookme a long time to recover from it,

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I'm so sorry and I understand completelythough. I mean, people think
that this is just like, oh, it's one and done, right.
They don't understand the implications of theenergy that it takes to channel or to
even do a reading or anything likethat. And they really don't understand when
it's super intense and there's emotions involved, especially with that that entity that you're

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bringing through, it can be reallydifficult to try to remove ourselves from that
as well, and how intense thatcan be, like processing wise after the
fact, this time, I don'tremember. I don't remember most of the
time what I've channeled, Syney,is yours your microphone like connected to the

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desk or something. No, it'snot connected to the desk. It's down
my table. Why, Oh,because I'm hearing it making noise. Yeah,
it's making noise. I don't know. Okay, all right, now
that's a that's amazing. I meanI've always I mean, I've never done
anything like that, but I haveto imagine that having somebody else inside your

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body. It's got First I wouldthink fear, and then second it would
be like, you know, whatthe hell am I supposed to do?
How am I going to get back? I mean, there's a lot of
things going through my mind right now, thinking like, it's not like hearing
something or feeling something. It's morelike just being daddy you. You know,

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I've been in that dark, thatdeep place before when we've done investigations
together and and I have you guysgoing Cindy, Cindy, Yeah, and
then everybody's like, is she sleepingand it's literally I'm just I'm not there
anymore. Well, to give yousome idea, So, like I you

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mentioned a haunting, I was featuredon the one hundredth episode of a Haunting,
and I'm also a producer for theTV show Haunting and I've produced season
eleven of the show. I'm sorrythat you don't like the show, but
it's because I had a bad experiencebecause there are a lot of things that
people don't know and understand regarding um, some of these shows. And I

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had an entity that actually came outof my TV from a haunting, came
into my house. So I haven'twatched it since. So I'm sure you're
doing a great job, Seam.I'm certain of it. I just I
just can't watch it. Well,I mean, you and I are sound
very similar because I well, Imean it may even been my entity because
I actually the show that I wason um the entity I was channeling,

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and I didn't know I was channeling. So this you were talking about Ted,
like about um, you know,like you being afraid to do something
like that. I fought it.So I was channeling and then instead of
pushing it out like you're supposed to, I didn't. I was I was
flipping out. I was like andso the entity took over and it was
like eight days of hell where Iwas going in and out of consciousness.

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I was lovitating in my bed.It wanted me dead, so it was
it was trying to have you jumpoff my balcony. It was gosh,
it was horrible. It was horrible. So I would say that Ted not
to do it, like, don'teven try it. Like it's something one
of those things that it's a gift, but it takes a piece of you
and it takes so much energy.But you know, with Eliza and telling

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her story, they did a beautifuljob at recreating having Eliza juxtaposed the actress
playing Eliza juxtaposed over me channeling,so it looked like she was talking using
my voice and I'm like, Isounded I mean like when I watching that
that I mean, it was beautifuland I cried when I watched it,

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but it was so I mean,I was so emotional, Like I mean,
I came across as so emotional andshe was so emotional. So I
thought I did her. I didit justice. But I also think that
it was also having a camera.It was so private, you know,
and having a camera chronicle something thatwas so private and part of my family
was weird. Uh. And andyou know, looking back, I'm glad

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I did it, But I alsothink that what we started to do with
the show, it would win acompletely different direction. After that moment.
It was almost like, Okay,Sam's now the show's clairvoyant and um,
and I'm like, you know what, I don't want to be I don't
want to be known for that.I want to be known for writing books
and uh, journalist, being ajournalist. And they're like, but that

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that's what that's what the spirits want. And you got and and I had
to go there, and I'll tellyou that in that case was the most
life changing experience. It's not aboutLizzie Borden. It's about light versus dark.
It's about redemption, It's about familyand about breaking the cycle of abuse
and and giving redemption even in theafterlife, and I I'm so proud to

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be to have been a part ofit. But like you said, there
was stuff that goes along with itthat they're like, wait a minute,
you know, Like I've seen Samon TV so many times and I'm like,
I had to I had to doit. I had to do it.
The spirits wanted me to do it, and I'm grateful that I did.
That's awesome, that's super amazing.Like, I'm so happy that you

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said it the way you said itright. That spirit wanted you to do
it and you did it right.I think it's huge and important because there
was a specific way that that wassupposed to go, whether you knew it
to be the way you wanted itto be or not. Right. You
know, something that came to methough, Sam, is have you done
like DNA cleansing and clearings for yourselfand your family lineage in line. That's

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a good point, So okay,give you some And this was kind of
a point of contention. So Iwork in Salem, Massachusetts a lot,
so a lot of what I do. I mean, I was raised Catholic,
but I have some things that Ido. They're kind of witchy in
nature. Um. So I havedone um. So, I'm good friends
with several high priestess, which iswho I've done sort of like cleansing of

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um. There's there's a a ritualthat you do for for and I have
done that. I've actually worked withPatty Negrie on that. Um and so
I do. I have done stuff, but I do think that there's there's
more to be done. Yeah,I have a I have a good woman
that that has helped me with stufflike that. So if you're interested,
I'll give you her name too.Okay, that sounds great. Yeah,

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I just know that it's it's funnybecause people say, oh, what do
you mean, like that's fake,and I would say, well, it's
let's put it this way. Whenyou have a when you have a murderer,
let's just use that as an example. When you have a murderer in
your DNA, right, and thatstigma, well maybe it could have been

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your grandfather, right, Well,that was a huge stigma and it was
it's almost like a huge energy imprintin your DNA now, right. Not
only that, there's also a lotof stuff around that, especially if you
share the same name, right,So that is kind of like carried forward.
Like we'll use another example, likeif somebody was a millionaire, right,

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However, if that millionaire made moneyoff of the back of those who
were sick and basically with scheming peoplelike some of these pharmaceutical companies, right,
it's then it's then brought forward andthat is now carried on to those

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generations that come after that that Andwhat are you saying is that does that
make the people that were affected bythat within their you know, heritage basically
of who the DNA? So thatmight make them poor because somebody in their
pastor happy. Not only that,it can make other things, right,
there could also be diseased. Therecould also be um, just crazy strange

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happenings. Right, these weird thingskeep happening. Every mail that's born to
this family passes away super early.Right, It's just really weird things people
do. People think that oh it'sjust you know, oh that's a curse
or whatever. It kind of likeis when you have done stuff like that

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to your family and have created suchan intense kind of energy, um,
it makes an imprint and it itcan be carried forwards other people. I
strongly agree with you, and Iwill tell you so if you look at
our lineage, not only so firstof all, it only affects women.
So all the women are the eitherthe perpetrators or the victims. So we

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haven't we have. So it's kindof like like perpetrator victim, perpetrator victim,
and it goes through like the cycle, and it goes, it goes
through the women. Yeah, andI want to help the women in my
family. I have sisters. Iwant to I want to help them.
Yeah, yes, exactly, that'sexactly it. Like the Winchester woman,

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Yep, I mean, I thinkthat's exactly the perfect example. I thought
about using the Winchester but she kindof she's hugely known for exactly what I'm
talking about. Okay, but thatcould work in a beneficial way though,
too, right. I mean,I mean, for example, Cindy,
like I know that in my lineagewere related to sitting bull to red Jacket,

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to all these Native Americans that werereally big into living off the land,
the wildlife, the animals and allthat stuff. So like for me
to go out into the wild myselfby myself and hang out with the animals
and stuff like that, is notuncommon for me. It's what I do.
So that might be something that waspassed down. Is that what you're
saying. Yeah, but when I'mtalking about like negative impacts negative okay,

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negative impacts genetically okay, and positivedoesn't or oh no, no, no
it does. Because the thing isis a lot of times witches are are
born to witches, right, well, I know that, but yeah,
that's positive Teddy, look at that. Okay, Um, what does he

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say? He says a lot offolks would say coincidence, there is no
such thing. Well, sure peoplecan say that, but I'm not going
to believe that because I know itto be different, right, Yeah,
And I think Cindy. Cindy doesn'tbelieve in coincidences. I don't believe in
coincidence. I think everything happens fora reason. It's it's I don't necessarily

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believe in fate, right. Butbut that's a tricky line for me.
Fate is a tricky line for me. Let me give some significity, synchronicity.
Yes, everything lines up when it'ssupposed to line up. I can
calmly believe that. I felt likethe show. I feel like the Cherson
Lizzie Borden was a perfect example ofthat. So to give you an idea,

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like it was like I eight,I was actually supposed to be um
a lead of another show and itwas it was shot in Canada, so
COVID hits UM and I can't dothe show. So so I get a
call saying that, you know,like Sam, you got like we want
you to be a part of theCurse of Lizzie Borden. And I'm like,
you know, I really I can'tdo that because I'm working on this

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other show. And I was reallyexcited about this other project. And they're
like, well, Dave Strader's onit, and I'm like, well,
if Dave's on it, I'll workon it. And so I will say
like Dave, Dave wanted me tobe on the show, and I felt
like that leading up to it,like even like the phone call I got,
it was there. It was meantto be. Like every and something
interesting about my relationship with Dave Schrader. Every time I've been on his radio

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show, Darkness Radio, We've alwaystalked about Lizzie Borden. This is talking
like going back ten years ago aboutabout Lizzie board and we always talked about
it, and if you go backto all our interviews that we've done,
we always mentioned his experience at theLizzie boardon house and my experience there,
and so I felt like I feltlike it was I felt called to it
something that happened too, and Iwant kind of want to get your boat

(34:04):
your opinion on this. Someone reachedout to me a few days before heading
to set, and she said shemessaged me on social media. She said,
Sam, I had a horrible visionof you and being in a black
SUV h You're driving down I ninetythree, which is the way to go
to Fall River. You head tothe TV show set. She didn't say

(34:27):
Lizzie Board, which said you goto a TV show, but before you
before you get there, you getin a horrible car accident and you die.
And I was so angry that someonetold me that that someone would like
do like an ambush reading without mewanting that information. She was trying to
look out for me. But Ithink I still think that it made me

(34:49):
so so when you watch me onthe show, I think I'm gonna die,
you know, I really do,because this woman calls me with this
ambush psychic reading that I didn't want. But I will say that when I
when I so I took a trainto avoid uh, like being in a
cart and maybe that's all it took, right, No, recently, because

(35:12):
you weren't in a car. Becauseof that. So when I get when
I get to the Lizzie Borden MurderHouse, guess what, Dave Schrader pulls
up at a block stuv Um andhe's like, Sam, we're gonna go
to the woods. And I'm like, where are we driving. He's like,
We're driving down on ninety three andI'm like, oh my god.
So it was like the twist offaith. So I was like, when

(35:37):
when I'm doing this show, I'mgiving you everything I got, everything I
got because I think it's my lastfew days on this. I really did.
Oh my gosh. Well, I'mglad that it didn't happen to you,
or I wouldn't have this past weekend, and you know it would be
terrible, just terrible. You couldhave also hopped a different timeline too,

(36:00):
right, I mean that that's verypossible, but I will I will say
that there was a period I wasdriving with a producer. Um, it
wasn't a black STV, but wewe actually almost did get in a car
accident, and so I think byhaving that knowledge and I told the producer
about what happened, I didn't tellDave because I was just worried that I
was gonna make him nervous. Uh, you know, I'm related to Lizzie

(36:22):
Borden, Like he was worried aboutme, like spending the night at the
house, and he's like, Sam, I don't think it's a good idea
for you to stay at the house. And I'm like, my Daves like,
because you're related to Lizzie Boyden,and I'm like, seriously, it
just passes through the women. Sonow I have this label. But um,
but yeah, I mean I dothink. I do think what you
were saying about the DNA cleansing,though there's some there's some some truth to

(36:45):
it. And I think that whenI when my mother actually my mother uncovered
the fact that were that were relatedto the Boarding family, and I got
emotional because I was like, youknow, I was like so um it
like my life made sense, Likelike all the books that I written have
been about like the Boarding murders,like the Salem Woods trials, and we're
related to the Putnam family, whowere the major accusers during the Salem Woods

(37:06):
trials. So all my historical researchmade complete sense. But um, but
what when when I told my brothersand sisters, I'm like, I'm my
guys, I'm gonna be on We'rerelated to Louzie Bourdon, it's gonna be
public. And they were like like, like, my mom didn't tell them
yet. And and then so whenwe told told the family, they were

(37:27):
like, yep, yep, makestotal sense. Yep. There was no
like questioning, just based on thebased on I mean, no offense to
my mother, but just based onthe family, uh, specifically the women.
Um, it all made sense.Oh no, I love my mom,
don't get her mad. Well,you know, at the same time,

(37:52):
sitting there going it's like, man, what a small world that you
are related to these people. Itjust shows you, you know, how
small it really is. Ryan WellBarry said with Cindy Kaza with Dave,
No, she wasn't. But Ilove Cindy Kaza. I think that she's
very talented. And she actually wassupposed to be on the show, but

(38:15):
Chris Fleming was because she was onset for The edgean shock doc. So
she was already booked for another show. So so David's good friends with Chris
Fleming, who I've never worked withbefore. It's amazing. From what I
hear, He's he's amazing. Likeus together was like unbelievable. I mean,
like certain you have certain pieces together. It's like a chemistry. Our

(38:37):
team, our team together was amazing. You know. I would say that
Chris, Chris is like very muchlike angels and demons, and like there
was like like and I'm I'm I'ma little witchy, and so he's like
super Catholic with this holy water andlike very holy water on me, and
I'm like, what am I supposedto like? It burns? It burns?
You Like what am I supposed tosaying? I'm noting? Yeah,

(39:02):
but but yeah, I mean likehe but when that said, we were
we were really really good together.And even though we had different styles.
And I will see that when Iwas channeling, he was standing right behind
me. And when I was channelingthis is some of it ended up on
the show, some of it didn't. But I was channeling his father,
who Reggie, who I've never metChris before, and I'm like this guy

(39:24):
Reggie who says, he's your dadjust walked into the room and Chris,
Chris walks outside, um, becausehe's overwhelmed with the energy in the room.
And then his dad says, tellChris his mother's in trouble. And
and I And when Chris came backinside after going outside, I told him

(39:44):
we got we started crying. Um. And then he calls. He calls
for his mother. His mother wason the floor for two days. Um.
She had a broken hippert. Shefell on the floor, she couldn't
get up, and she U andso he called. He called a family
member who on her. She wasrushed to the hospital. He can continue
filming the show, but it tookher months to recover from that. And

(40:07):
and his father, uh, whopassed, saved his mother. That's amazing,
that's amazing. Well, I'm gladthat you were there to give that
message to him so he could know. Hey, Eileen, how are you,
honey? I know that's a greatstory. Yeah. John Koby said,

(40:29):
it's nice to see Sam on there. So that's so I gotta go
back to something that was brought upearlier for you, Sam, when I
was reading your bio, what isa stringer? Okay, so I worked.
I heard of this before for somereason, but I can't place it.
I was a stringer for the NewYork Times, so that means when
they needed for me to interview peoplefor certain stories. UM. So it's

(40:52):
it's basically a reporter, but youyou a stringer is like you you're on
call. So you like they're like, hates, we're working on a story
that's due tomorrow. Can you go, uh reporting the hurricane that's hitting hitting
Florida at the time. I wasin Florida when I was a stringer,
um and a lot of times becauseI was I was living with my mother.

(41:14):
Um, I was living like mymother was sex so I was kind
of like looking out for my family. Um the um the um. It
was like it was like weather related, you know. Or it was like,
um like like conservative politics because Ibecause I grew up in a very
conservative part of Florida, so theywanted sort of like the conservative point of
view. So I'll be sitting withmy tape recorder and like these people like

(41:35):
like no offense, but kind ofkind of redneckie a little bit. They're
like, what what are you talkingabout? Like like yeah, I'm not
nod. Thanks thanks, Sam.I grew up. I'll tell you,
like, when I was in WestVirginia, I felt like I was at
home because I because I was likebecause everyone was like like like, I
don't know, it was it waslike it was like going back home.

(41:57):
Even the food was like like goingback home. God, did you taste
taste that those ladies food that theyhad selling? Oh? My god,
pulled it was? They made thatfood. It was made from the heart.
It was like that was like thebest pulled pork sandwich. I with
a I had the cold slaw.I had the massed potato, the cold
like the potato salad, and I'mlike, that is exactly how my mom

(42:21):
cooks. And I'm like, andit was made with love. So the
food, the speaking alone ted wasworth it. I ate. I ate
three pulled pork sandwiches. So yeah, it was. So tell me about
this event. Was it a successfulevent? Was it was for them?
It was because they did get athey did get a donation which helped them

(42:44):
out a lot, which is reallygood. Um. The intent was great.
Um, I think too, becausewe had heard that there was a
food truck event up in town.There was all this stuff going on,
but I mean there was people camethrough. I'll tell you that the kids
part of it was a huge success. I mean there was a buddy got
at least seventy something pictures with allthe kids that were there, individual kids,

(43:06):
and then for Saturday night for theadult part, he got a good
thirty or forty pictures as well.I mean, there was some good parts
of it. I think it wasjust bad timing or something. But I
mean it wasn't a terrible, terribleevent. It just lacked a few things.
But you know, it's also youhave to remember it was coming off
of COVID, so some people werestill like, hey, I don't want

(43:28):
to go out. We're still havingthat Like where I work, it's like
I work with for a bar restaurantand it's like we're having a hard time
getting people in, you know,And that's because they're still worried about COVID.
You know though, Yeah, wellcome sing Thursday night, honey,
you know how I sing? Whywould you see it? I don't know,

(43:51):
because somebody else's ears need to bleedfor a change exactly. So Dan
Todd was there and he said thefood was great, it was great.
It was amazing. Um, uChanel says, I'm from Welch, West
Virginia originally, so that's cool.Um, did you see Cindy. This

(44:15):
was for you from Parry Marts.I know Cindy wasn't at the New Jersey
Perry Unity when I met Dave Schrader. Uh there at the Parry Unity Pleasure
Yep, that's awesome. Yeah,you know, I these events. I
mean, I'll be honest with you. I love doing the events, but
I'm only I'm only able to dolike three a year. You know.

(44:36):
It just it doesn't doesn't happen veryoften. Todd says, the investigation was
awesome Friday, very active. Cool. I've heard that too, now,
Sam, while you were going throughwhat you were there, I mean,
did you get anything I did?Yeah, I mean you and I talked
about this Tad, but I wasgetting So there's a lot of residual there,

(44:59):
a lot of his role, right. So when you when I see
a residual like energy of people likeworking, and you know, when you
go out to like the back areawhere there was a shed, I kept
being pulled back to the shed inthe back and apparently that's where supposedly there's
a dark entity that resides. Ijust got a man that was pushing people
away to stay away from the fromthe area because it because that's where they

(45:21):
would cut the cut the train tracksand it was very dangerous. So they
were like this thing was like pushingpeople away from the thing. It was
like getaway, get away. Andit was because he worked there. Uh.
And so I feel like that alot a lot of the energy,
the spirits that there um are misunderstood. Yeah, yes, there was a

(45:42):
lot of darkness that there was therailroad strike. Uh, you know,
there was other things that happened theretoo, Like there were lynchings up the
streets, so that's going to leavea really horrible psychic imprint on the land.
And there was a mass grave rightdown the street where where soldiers were
just sort of shot and draw likethey were just like okay, drop you
know in this bury them right there. So there was a mass grave round

(46:05):
in the corner. So, yes, there's a lot there's a lot of
darkness, But there was also alot of residual related to the railroad up
to men men were who worked there, who loved it, love love doing
what they were doing and were andstill are kind of like working in the
afterlife. Yeah, yeah, Imean it was a it's a huge place

(46:28):
to walk. I mean it wasvery cool. You know. Um,
I like the roundhouse roundhouse, butthe roundhouse is beautiful, I mean honestly,
I mean you could put it putso many vendors in there that that
place is so big, you know, and uh, but it was.
It was awesome. You know,I will see this there there, there

(46:51):
is that elemental there. Um it'sa fire elemental. So there was.
Yeah, so there was a tensee it like there's a history of a
lot of fires. Well that's why. I mean, there's there's something that
was there during the Native American timesthat is still sticking around and it's kind
of like lurking in the shadows.Did you see that. Yeah, I'm

(47:15):
stick of working. I don't wantto work in the afterlife. To sign
up and work in the afterlife,it depends on what I'm doing in the
afterlife, I guess. I mean, I know that my great aunt she
takes care of the kids when shehelps them cross and you know, certain
people tell me, like certain particularjobs that they have. My aunt is

(47:38):
one of them. She told mehow she helps babies and children cross so
theyre so they have somebody to crosswith. Well when you see that's any
like so not to not to getoff, but the curse of Leslie Borden.
That's what my role became was toprotect Eliza's children and and it's across

(48:00):
the children. Uh. And soI you know, like we had a
seance at the end, which apparently, um, you know, the seance.
I don't recommend doing a seance.I think it's like like playing with
fire. Uh. But we itwas very very successful and crossing over uh,

(48:20):
Wisa came into the circle and sheheld up her children to the light.
So Chris and I created a beamof light together. Uh, and
we crossed over the infant child whowho we heard crying throughout the seance.
And it was very it was verybeautiful. It was a very beautiful thing.
And of course I was crying likewhile I was half like oh,

(48:42):
like the whole time, I'm like, oh my did I really ugly cried
that much? Oh? My god, yourself, my friend Sam. I'm
just I love poking fun use becauseI mean, I am proud of what
we were able to accomp but Ialso wish I would have ugly cried as
much as I did. Sometimes it'sso overwhelming though, right Sam, like

(49:07):
it's you can't It's not like youcan stop it. It's not like like
I I can remember like conscious Cindygoing oh no, don't cry, like
what the hell? And then likeso I'm like nope, and then forget
about it. I have no controlat that. Sometimes I'm sobbing you and

(49:27):
I can't help it. You know, do you have a camera in front
of you while you're doing more?So? Listen, Sam is So I
do my tarill tuesdays, and wedo we do something called role call.
Okay. One of the things thatI do during roll call is we check
in and and Spirit lets me knowwho's here. So, um, we

(49:51):
have we have God's goddesses, angels, arch angels, um, what are
they called sending masters? We havea lot of entities overall, right that
will be here at anyone. Wehave alien energies and they allow them to
bring messages and at times it's notjust messages. Sometimes they decide that they

(50:19):
it's easier for them to talk thanit is to talk through me. However,
when they get in my body,then they realize they are trying to
use their alien functions of thinking andstuff, and it's harder for them to
communicate right through my body where Ifeel everything right. So as they have

(50:43):
messages coming in, Cindy sometimes knowswhat's going on because sometimes she's back here
and they allow her to understand.And sometimes it's not like sometimes I will
not have any I'll just be pushedto the back and Cindy doesn't really exist
for a moment, right, YEA, exactly what you're talking about. And

(51:04):
then and but the thing is isin that moment, all I can do
is have this camera rolling, andsometimes it's just the waterworks and you can't
do anything about it. And Isay, I'm sorry you guys, I
can't control this, and then they'relike and then I'm like, no,
why, I'm I'm not sorry.This is this is vulnerability at its finest,

(51:30):
right. I have no control overwhat comes through, what comes out,
And this is vulnerability. And it'sokay to be vulnerable, right,
So people need to learn that,and Sam, for you to be able
to share that with people is reallyamazing. And sometimes it just takes somebody
else to take a little tweak andsay, hey, what you don't realize

(51:52):
is that how many of those peoplehave gone through that and have picked up
on her energy right, and havealready like just had that immediate sense of
needing to cry or hearing the childrenor whatever, right, and they don't
understand. And then maybe seeing yourshow and seeing you crying and just now

(52:15):
being able to to control what comesthrough, maybe that was necessary for people
to see understand and and and andbe part of. Right. Yeah,
So I've gotten contacted by hundreds ofpsychic mediums, like across the globe,
and I've had people say, youknow, like offer me advice, but

(52:37):
most time, most of times they'relike, think you, thank you,
thank you for showing what we doon on a show. UM and and
I and I you know that thathumbled me and also to getting that validation
from other psychic mediums because really,when it comes to like this part of
of the being who I am asa person, uh, it's kind of

(52:58):
it's kind of foreign to me.So I've I've trained, I've trained,
and what I do, I'm alot of it. A lot of it
is just like using my um,you know, my intuition. But also
having studied this for years, Iknow what psychic mediums do. But I
also my skill sets different than youraverage psychic medium. I mean, I'm

(53:20):
a psychometrist. I mean I usuallyand I'll touch something and I'll flash back,
uh in time and have like thepictures in my head of what played,
which works great as a historian becauseI can see what happened two hundred
years ago. Yeah, I thinkit's amazing. So many people don't.
So I personally am of the mindsetthat you don't inhibit yourself from learning something

(53:46):
new, right or or immediately believeoh I can't do that. Right.
So my firm belief is that everybodyis psychic, right, we all are
psychic. What you do with it, if you choose to open it,
that's up to you. Do Ithink everybody is going to be like me.
No, I don't, And personally, I wouldn't wish that on people,

(54:06):
right, because at times it's reallyoverwhelming. Sometimes I can't get out
of bed because I'm so drained fromthe night before his activities. Right,
So there are things that people don'tsee me, like the after effects.
Right, So some people get drunkand have a hangover, Well, it's

(54:27):
kind of the same way for me, being a psychic medium. I get
a hangover as well, but it'sjust not I don't feel like I'm throwing
up. I mean I have.I mean that there are those physical things
too, but it's more that myenergy is so drained from trying to come
through, right. I just wantto throw this in there that Anthony Semonelli's

(54:52):
watching. He says, Hi guys, and Hi Sammy, how are you?
M Chanelle says, I'm only psychicwhen it comes to people I love.
I seem to know what's happening tofamily without anyone telling me. Yes,
I can understand that. And Idid that for years. I mean,
like that's kind of what I justkind of kept it to my family

(55:13):
members. And and then and thenI started expanding expanding, uh and so
I think that that's that's like,that's the first stop. We're like,
yeah, yeah, I mean there'sa lot of you know, uh stigmas
out there that you know, ifif you see your psychic medium or a
psychic or as you know, youyou uh sensitive or whatever. It's just

(55:36):
there are so many people this dayand age that are coming out with you
know, coming out of the psychicclock closet, you know what I mean.
And I think people feel that alot of people are putting on this
thing. But you know there Ithink there's Charlottan's and everything and every field.
It doesn't matter, you know.Um So I don't know, do

(55:59):
I do I leave everybody's psychic.I think in some sense that if one
has it, then why can't theother one have it too? They just
might be more. It might bethey may be aware of it. I
guess that's correct. I think mybiggest concern is that, I mean,
I've written I was a journalist forsuch a long time. I've written now

(56:20):
fourteen books. It's like I'm ahistorian, so like I started off as
a person who wrote history books withghost stories, and my line was a
ghost is history demanding to be remembered. So like that's kind of like how
I started. But when you kindof like get come out of the psychic
closet, if you will, Likethey don't look at that, they don't
like you've written fourteen books. Idon't care. I just want to focus

(56:43):
on you know, like like ifyou're a psychic and I'm like, you
know, I I why would IWhy would I want to do that?
You know? Like what I don't. I don't like I was the perfect
example of when I didn't want todo that. Uh, you know,
I'm not trying to get attention.I was trying. I was basically doing
because because I had to do it. Yeah. I think it's interesting,
like, um, how many peoplewill change their mind or opinion of you

(57:07):
if I came to people because I'mvery I have My businesses are very different,
right, I'm a psychic medium.That's my main business. However,
my other business is, well,I'm a Board of Elections worker, right,
I'm a beach body coach, andI'm a notary public for the State

(57:28):
of New York. I am anotary public, and people will give me
much more validity. Oh when Isay I work with legal documents and I'm
very litigious in my business and stuff. And then if you say to them,
the same people who were like,okay, I give you validity because
you do this, right, thenI say, oh, and I'm also

(57:52):
a psychic medium, and they're like, well, I'm taking that back now,
and in pigeonholed in some other group. Right, So I can understand
you not necessarily wanting to be umlike put into a psychic medium kind of

(58:15):
thing and clairvoyant label, I meanjust classifications something right as an author,
right, right? I mean Imean for me that like I like when
people say psychic and I have notlike the label of psychic. I don't
predict the future. I mean Ihave, I have had visions, but

(58:35):
I'm more of the past. SoI find that the clairvoyant label fits me
better than psychic medium. But I'ma medium too, you know, if
you're like, like, based ona few channel you're a medium. It's
like it's like you gotta accept Ijust gotta accept it. I guess Listen,
I hated the word psychic. Iwould never ever call myself a psychic.

(58:59):
Back in the day, I knew. I knew growing up I was
weird, and I never knew whyI was weird. I mean, was
do you mean? Well? Istill am, and I'm okay with it.
I embraced my weirdness. But itwasn't until I was in I was
twenty five, just about that thatI was told and understood what I was

(59:21):
and am. Right. Another mediumtold me I was a psychic medium,
and I didn't understand that I'm upuntil that point. So it was good.
Yes, pigeonholed. Robert, Hey, Lenny, he's on there.
He says, Hey, it's manTed, lovely Cindy and the great Sam.
Look at that. That's fantastic.Yeah, Robert said, pigeonholed.

(59:47):
And that's why I don't want tobe pigeonholed. But you know, people
are going to do what they haveto do, and my goal really is
just just to help people to educateas much as I possibly can and help
people will be excited about the historyalong the way, because that that is
my my primary objective is to uh, to to get people excited about history.

(01:00:10):
I mean my like my, my, my, my, the man
that raised me, my stepdad,uh he was a history and history boff
and teacher and so I you knowmy mom, My mom is a m
She's the one that uncovered that wewere related to the Boarding family. So
she's a real like a researcher.She loves history as well, and you
know, we were raised in ahistory family and so it's one of those

(01:00:31):
things that um, I want togive back and it's my passion as well.
Yeah, that's amazing. I lovethat your mom did the genealogy research,
right, I love that so much. I've done some a little bit,
and um and my aunt and mycousins have done a bunch as well.

(01:00:54):
Um when my mom like later inlife, like she got an ancestry
dot com membership and that was thebest thing ever forever because it wouldn't and
the things. She's got multiple booksof research and she's good, she's really
good. Like I'm like, she'slike, you know, Sam, I
always wanted to be a crime sceneinvestigator. I'm like, what the crime

(01:01:16):
scene investigator. I'm like, I'mlike, Mom, where did that come
from? I'm like, and thenwe found out related to Lazzie board and
like, oh that makes total sense. Get it. Um, we have
to take a break. Um,but I would like everybody in the chat

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Sam. Um. We are goingto touch on a few other things yet
that we read in his bio thatwe haven't gotten too. So you guys,
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All right, so we are back. Um. Robert White has a question.
He's to Sam. Being a touchsensitive to the task, do you
think you could get information on someof the major unsolved crimes of history,
such as Jack Ripper or any otherunsolved base. Yeah? Yeah, just
give me, give me an artifact. Let's see what happens. I mean,

(01:07:00):
like, you know, I willsee this, and I'm sure Stinny
can can validate this. Like itdoesn't always, it doesn't always connect.
You don't always have that connection,but when it does, it's it blows
you away. So I think thatcould be very overwhelming. It could be
even very overwhelming. So I think, I think, Yeah, I mean
I think also to you for me, like when I as a psychometrist,

(01:07:21):
I've also picked up happy things too. It doesn't have to be a murder
or unsolved murder. It could beyou know, someone proposing or someone having
a child, which which I get. I actually I love picking up the
historic events that are um not tragedy, right and and I those are the
ones I actually like to do.Have I worked on cases that involving um

(01:07:45):
my ability, like like like tohelp solve cases I have. But you
like and when you do that,you don't do it on the record,
you kind of do it off therecord. Uh. And and sometimes sometimes
I I completely I'm brought in andI will touch something at the location see
what I see and it's right.And and I'm I always and when I

(01:08:08):
when I when I get it right, Um, I'm always, I'm always
like I second guess myself. I'mlike like, I'm like really and and
the people are like you nailed it, like you like you nailed it,
And I don't almost like I don'twant to. I like I don't want
to accept that I have this gift. And I keep kind of like doubting
myself, but I keep on knowingit. Some things just take you by

(01:08:29):
surprise, like I literally my mycatchphrases. I can't make this shit up
like like I do or say,and I'm just like, are you are
you kidding me? Right now?I can't make this shitt up, Like,
there's no way I could possibly knowthis specific thing, and here they
are, It's coming out in mymouth right There's there's just no way.

(01:08:53):
There's no fathomable way. I loveLenn, thank you so much. Yes,
it was only two or three yearsago that I'm not sure. I'm
I guess I'm lost on this one. He's saying, because I said that,
um, that the psychic medium toldme what my gifts were, and

(01:09:14):
I was twenty five at the time. I think that those only two or
three years ago. I still lookyoung then, um, you know.
But stopping in Talas, I gota compliment. I think the Big five
oh this year, and I'm okaywith it. I am super excited about

(01:09:39):
my age. And I just wastold today by one of my guy friends
that he's like Cindy Seen and itwas the first time we've been friends.
Were a couple of years now,but it's the first time we actually got
to see each other in person,and he said, he said, if
I didn't know that you were fifty, I would literally think you're like thirty
four years old. It's like,you're so cute. It's just a number

(01:10:02):
I'm hitting. I'm hitting the fiveoh very soon myself. So it's just
it's just a number. It's great, young. I don't feel any different,
so says I love to see theBlack Dahlia, Saul. She always
kind of person that dude. Ican't even like, there are so many

(01:10:24):
famous ones. Did Jack the Ripperthe Black Dahlia? Like, there are
so many things that I have feltand picked up on these things that that's
just craziness. Well to give anidea. So the Black Dahlia, the
woman and a smart I forget herfirst and last names. Do we remember
her name? I do believe it'sElizabeth Elizabeth anyway, she actually she actually

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grew up short, yeah short,um, and so she actually grew up
down the street of Medford. SoI live in Summerville, Massachusetts. She
grew up in Medford. So there'sa there's a plaque for the Black Dahlia
for for Elizabeth short right, right, down the street for me, what
that's so crazy? Yeah, Ithink Chanelle, now do you see how

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this is crazy that you just happenedto pick and say the black Dahlia and
Sam it lives right near where shegrew up. Like, that's just crazy
to me, right, and alsopick up she also she also may have
picked up on a project that Imay be working on too. Look at
that. That's amazing. Listen,please just bring me with you. I

(01:11:36):
just want to I just want tobe I want to go to that place.
I want to go to that house. And the funny part is is
where that took place. They havesaid that there's been a lot of activity
in that house. Yes, sothat which is the which was the doctor's
house by the ways. Yeah,well, I mean there's a whole the

(01:11:59):
whole idea that the doctor, likethe doctor's son said that he believes his
father and forget that the guy's namethat they accused of actually doing the murders.
And I think that, like frommy experience, I think there's a
lot of misinformation that needs to bereevaluated. For example, one of the
like the Cecil Hotel, which Ido a podcast called Haunted Hotels with Sam

(01:12:20):
bal Trusis and the most talked abouthotels the Cecil Hotel in Los Angeles,
and they see that she was therebefore she was murdered. She was never
there, you know, Like they'relike all these just like the sea other
on Once Child, just like LizzieBorden. There's so much misinformation that you
have to kind of like pick throughthe pieces of it like correct information.

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And then it also applies to whatwe do as as as a clairvoyant or
as a psychic medium. I thinkthere's a that's something that gets passed up
a lot. Is like when youwatch TV shows or or something to that
fact that they never give you allthe details. They only give you the
piece is that will put you onthe edge of your seat or we'll make

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you go, you know what Imean. So there's a lot of information
out there that all these things,yeah, that is true, like the
Curse of Lizzie Borden. Like Ia lot of people like watched the documentary
expecting, well, it's a shockdoc so it's not really. I mean
it's like it's a shockumentary, soit's meant to shock you for two hours.

(01:13:24):
And uh so a lot of peoplelike, well, why didn't you
like see who who you thought didit? And I'm like, this was
not what that was about. Thiswas about other things, like it's Lizzie
Bordon two point zero and and likegoing to the theories of like like who
did it and why did they doit? And I say in the show
that you know, like our theoryis that she was taken over by an

(01:13:45):
entity, uh, and that shedid commit the crime. And of course
you have people that are like lawLizzie Board She's almost like a like this
this hair, this heroin this feministicon for a lot of women, and
they're like, oh, she shedidn't do what she was innocent, and
like they're like they're really like reallypassionate about Lousie Borden. And I'm you
know, I'm I'm grateful, butbut this was not what that show was

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about, right, Yeah. Ijust think it's amazing that that's so much
informational either way gets just left out. But yeah, but I mean,
like as I mean, I'm aproducer too, and I think it's like
if it doesn't make sense of thenarrative, I like yeah, and it's
it's just like there's this we don'thave thirteen hours of I mean, I
I get what you're saying too personallyfirsthand, firsthand, we've both done shows.

(01:14:34):
So yeah, yeah, so thatif it doesn't make sense, it
gets caught. Yeah, yeah,we know it firsthand. It's definitely you
know. Um, let me seehere, I wanted to talk about UM
Paranormal Night Shift. I don't thinkI've ever heard of that show, all
right, so I think it wasa great show. So it was the

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group the same groups called Bristyle Media. Uh, they produced UM Paranormal Knight
Shift, Haunted, Hunted Hospitals,I believe, so they they were kind
of like friend Oh yeah, andso so that I love. I love
this group because like kind of gettingback there's other groups that do their recreation

(01:15:17):
shows that kind of like, uh, they don't get it right. Well,
Risk Stout got it right. SoParanormal Knight Shift was about me working
at a hotel in Salem, Massachusetts, working an overnight shift and seeing what
looked like a black mass in thein the lobby and the black mask goes
into the elevator and goes down tothe basement and and I'm like, you

(01:15:41):
can't go to the basement unless youpush certain buttons. There was like a
code to go down to the basement. I'm like, what the hell is
going on? And so I godown to the basement too, and spacked.
I hear what sounds like moaning,but not in a good way,
like someone was like maybe like likeuh stuck behind a wall. Oh uh.
And so I then I hear likea banging of metal, like someone's
banging metal. I run upstairs andI see I see a man wearing a

(01:16:05):
hat. And so I had anencounter with a with a man wearing a
hat. I in this show Italk about this is when I found out
that I was related to the Putnamfamily, that I was someone related to
that or like my guilt or maybethere was a thought form. But the
guy looked like a like a likea possessed pilgrim. I mean it was
like really, it was like reallyweird. But so that it's a recreation

(01:16:28):
show much like a paranormal survivor,so that's the same idea. Wow,
Yeah, I did a couple ofthose. That's why I brought it up.
Nice. That's cool though, that'scool. How'd you like working with
the Gholst brothers. Yeah, thatwas great. So Fright Club is as
a clip show, so that whatthey bring you on. And this is

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the role that I like, becausethey'll bring you on and to ask you
questions like what is the shadow person? And you like that like paranormal one
on one questions and oh that's cooland I felt safer in that role.
But the Ghost Brothers are fun.So they were like like we were like
joking and laughing, and because Iwas I was like wearing my glasses and
they were like, you kind oflook like Jack Osborne and and I'm like

(01:17:12):
a kind of digg because the glasseswere they look like Jack Osborne's glasses.
So it's more like it's more oflike a paranormal expert role. And Fright
Club they did. I don't knowif I go public with this, Jeff,
but we did film Fright Club two. Uh, and that's coming to
Discovery Plus in a travel channel soon. Awesome. Fine, that's awesome.

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Lenn just made a statement about theHe says, I also know about the
cutting of TV shows, and myinformation investigations of Bachelor's Grove cemetery didn't fit
a certain show narrative, so theytwice didn't talk to me. But yeah,
I mean it's it is too.I mean my mine just for instance

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was Cindy and I worked with ghostNation just kind of fell in my life
app right, Um, and workingwith Jason those guys, I mean that
they had somebody else doing the investigationand doing all this stuff but then up
and quit or something, so Ikind of got thrown in the middle of
it. But it was we werethere a whole week, you know,

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so, I mean it was fun, but it was definitely a lot better
than working for Paranormal Survivor. That'sall. Yeah, let's all you dead.
Well. I mean what what Iliked about Ghost Nation and like they're
they're of course doing Ghost Hunters andthat should be coming out soon. Um,
they're rebooting ghost Hunters. But ghostNation was great because they brought in

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a lot of our friends from theparanormal community to go in and investigate with
him. So a lot of myfriends I saw on television because of that,
and it was just good to see, like, like are like,
it wasn't just about Jason and Steveand Tango. It was about the our
our friends from the community coming inand bringing their cases to Jason. Yeah.
I really wish they would. Imean, it was kind of like

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Jason like saying to everybody, we'reall from the same part, We're all
from the same thing, same field, And it would be nice if they
I know that they're going back toghost you know, ghost hunters, but
it'd be nice if they gave thatto somebody else to follow up with,
you know, as I try itagain with somebody else, because I think
that's important that they show that we'reworking with everybody, that everybody's working with

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everybody. It's not just you know, I'm ahead of you or I'm the
best, or you know what Imean, all the bullshit that's in the
in the field. But yeah,I loved working with the guys, you
know, and I do it tomorrow. But yeah, Pianial Survivors just I
just can't do shows like that,you know. I mean, you and
I discussed it. I mean,they take what's this big and they make

(01:19:45):
it super huge, or they falteron certain things. If I get the
chance, if somebody approached me witha better show, I would give it
a thought. But I just can't. I felt, I mean, did
it kind of like like like tuningthe horn of a haunting. I feel
like a Haunting gets it right,and um, and I know that I'm

(01:20:06):
sorry that the entity came to yourscreen and attacks you. Cynthy, that's
horrible to get me because they knewbetter. But they went to my little
ones and now oh no, no, no, no no. Yeah,
and then my boys saw them.So my my youngest or my my middle
one, Um, he sawed.He's like, the man's tripping me.

(01:20:27):
And I was like, oh fuck, no, why we banish that immediately?
But but yeah, so I mean, but I feel strongly that we
do a great job at capturing thetruth. And it's different, like Paranormal
Survivor is like twenty minutes of content, so they have to kind of down
and make it this like pretty littlehaunted package and honey, you have a

(01:20:47):
whole hour and you can go tothe depths of the of the story.
Has every episode been perfect, No, But I was happy with my episode.
I think it turned out really reallyawesome and they did a great job.
And also, like I spent sixmonths telling my story, the talking
to the producers, and that's myrole now is to kind of be like

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the guy, the person that workswith the people that have had the experience
and work together to tell their storyto tell it correctly. So I'm like
almost like they're like a like someonethat's done it, Yeah, like a
Bunny system and like listen, I'mlike, this is a cathartic experience,

(01:21:32):
but you have to do this ifyou want to make sure that they see
this part correctly, because it's important, you know, like that kind of
stuff, right. I think youjust if you get off for shows for
anybody that does it, I justthink you have to be You do have
to be picky. I mean youhave to. You have to understand.
I mean, like you said aboutmy election and stuff. It's like I'm
pretty old school and and I trulybelieve you have to take your time with

(01:21:55):
these investigations. You can't just rushanything. You know, you have to
cover every base. I mean saidit, yeah, did you see it
in there? Who did? Oh? Dan Todd? Yeah? Parunity yeah,
And you know we'd say it hereon Para talk radio. A lot
is like, guys, we're allfrom cut from the same cloth. Here.

(01:22:17):
We should be working together, notfighting each other, right there,
un said it. Egos ruin alot of fields. Happens every way.
Too many big egos in the paranormaland and it's true. I mean,
nobody wants to share information, nobodywants to help somebody else out. And
and we're I guess here, likefor for New York, I mean,
Cindy and I we've we put theshow out because we want to tell people

(01:22:42):
both sides of the coin, notjust one side. And we want them
to understand that. And we don't. We're a little grungy sometimes and people
kind of go, hey, uhyeah, but at least you're getting the
truth. I mean that's the way. That's the way you're getting yea.
Yeah. I'm a big believer perunity. I have been stabbed in the
back. I mean, like ifif people people see people have seen you

(01:23:05):
on TV, they automatically think thatyou're a certain way, and I'm not.
I'm the most like, down toearth real person that you're going to
meet. I don't think I'm anybetter than anybody else. But I do
think that, you know, whenit comes to certain topics, you know,
like I've written the book on it, you know, so I know
you have a lot more situation thanthe next you know, and and so

(01:23:27):
I like I know a lot aboutSalem, Massachusetts. I spent ten years
there. I don't think I ownit, but I think that I know
a lot about it, you know, I mean ten years studying it,
I would think you would know morethan most you know, And that's you
know, and that's like you know. I was going to bring this up
earlier because I noticed in your bioyou and I do something similar or the

(01:23:48):
same. I work for the OWLLibrary and I do my lectures through the
library system for New York for theOWL System. Yeah, I I love
library library lectures, like that's myfavor word thing. And so I usually
do around like every October, LikeTed, why do they ways books in
October, Well, they booked me. They actually booked me July, September,

(01:24:13):
October, and November, December.I don't know why I get July.
They totally skipped August, and Idon't know why, but well,
probably because August there's a lot offamilies that don't use the library or something
like that. Like during summer it'sprobably a lot quieter. But going into
August, September, October, andNovember, it's definitely the veil thinning in

(01:24:34):
Halloween time. I don't get alot in October, but definitely November.
November fills up quick. Yeah.So, I mean I love it though.
I mean, I'll have people likethey're packed, they're free to the
public, and that's the part thatI really love. And they're all readers,
and so like having an author,you know, like like be in

(01:24:56):
a room full of people to actuallyread your books. It's like amazing.
I just gave a lecture to thePerkins Library and the Perkins Perkins School for
the Blind. So everybody, everybodyin the in the room, they were
they were blind, but I willtell you they had the best questions.
They read every word in my book. And I'm just I was so so

(01:25:16):
grateful. Uh. I love it. I loved it. See for me
with my lectures, I mean Iwhere I go, um, there'll be
small places, big places, whatever, like you I'm sure. But you
know, some of them have readmy books. Some of them haven't.
And they do it because of whoI am. They come for paranormal lecture,

(01:25:39):
they come for you know, let'stalk about ghosts or whatever. And
you know a lot of the peoplethat I find it to lectures, they
just they're looking for direction. Youknow. I do get some from time
to time. That's that d wordthat everybody uses demon and I'm like,
and some of them are pretty tighton that word, and they're like,
oh my god, I know it'sa damon. You're bah bah bah.

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I mean I first year I didthis, Sam, I mean, I
got people telling me I was goingto hell. I was. I did
too. I always say this,like, so when when I first started
writing books about the paranormal, um, like New England's notoriously tight lipped about
its ghost Like it doesn't want totalk about its ghost That's why. It's

(01:26:21):
just part of the culture. Andyou know, if you look at if
you look at sort of like theSalem witch Trials, people were executed for
spectral evidence, so ghosts were usedas evidence to accuse innocent men and women
of witchcraft for UH in sixteen ninetytwo. So I think it's something to
relate it to that. But butI would say when I when I give
a lecture, like the first yearI sold ghost to Boston, UM,

(01:26:43):
people wanted it in a brown paperbag like it was ghost like I didn't
want yeah, And I'm like,and the excuse me, do you have
a brown paper bag? And I'mlike, for what for? Like for
the book that I just bought,and I'm like, okay, Like,
so I started bringing brown paper bagsso they would cover up your little secret,

(01:27:04):
Sam. It's because they're erotica andgotta buy that stuff. The smut.
I will say that it's changed though. Look, so that's because of
pop culture in these TV shows wherewe're talking about it's opened the doors.
So we're accepted. We're accepted morethan we ever have been. Sometimes we're

(01:27:25):
not accepted, like we're people likeyou're a witch or whatever the like,
whatever did you know? I am? Oh, trust me, Cindy,
and I know Cyndy and I hit. I put mine out there, Sindy
and I get it all the time. We'll get it all the time.
I mean, I'm like, ohmy god, you're trying to make that

(01:27:47):
sound like it's a negative connotation,but it's not. I mean, if
you're meaning it to be bitch,then that's a negative connotation. And honey,
that's not me, but the witchI am len because he gets a
lot of that down there. Hesays, I get a lot of your

(01:28:08):
going to hell living down here.Yeah, living in the Bible Belt.
And I do understand that. Imean, and I've talked about this before.
Is that you know I started,you know, my first experience,
I was seven years old. Andthen when I came out of the paranormal
closet, if that's what you wantto say, and closets, closets,

(01:28:30):
I can't help it. Closet.Hey, I came out. I came
out of my paranormal closet, andeighty five, I came out of my
gay closet in two thousand and ninetyfive. I don't know somewhere in there,
so we haven't even gotten there yet. Hey. Hey, my job

(01:28:58):
is to keep it light and funnyhere. And I think I'm doing a
good job. You're doing a greatjob. I mean, I think we
should write a book called paranormal Closet. There you go. We could all
put a little chapter in your paranormallike, this is what happened in my
paranormal closet. Like I don't knowabout you, but listen, in my

(01:29:23):
paranormal closet literally was a closet.I was twelve and listening in my brother's
closet was a little ghost boy thatthe three of us younger kids saw didn't
live with us all the time.And the thing was that she didn't see

(01:29:44):
him. But me, Shannon,my sister, younger sister, and my
brother Aaron, we all saw.We all played with this little ghost boy.
I thought it was normal, Sam, I thought everybody played with little
ghost children. I found that thatit's not normal. My my first experience
was in the closet as well.UM. And she was a little a

(01:30:05):
little polish girl that like that,like really liked me, and she would
like comeing up. We would likehang out and she's like she'd be like,
look at me. And I thoughtshe was real. So I just
called it a little little polish girl. I don't even know her name.
Did you see Robert's comment paranormal closetwhere the fifty shades are spectral? Listen,

(01:30:30):
I had a paranormal closet. Ihad a broom closet. You know
me too. I had one morethan you do. I have a sexy
closet. Uh. The wits andchains are in a fuzzy, fuzzy hand
custom all this stuff. We don'tneed to know that what I don't want

(01:30:54):
to know. I don't want toknow, so so I want to I
want to I want to pop thisover to Um that we just confirmed today
that Sam is going to be atthe Rochester Parafest. I'm I'm so excited,
Sam, So what did I signup for? Tad? Like,

(01:31:15):
what do you know what? I'mnot gonna say anything. I'm gonna let
Cindy tell you what the ro islike she can tell you. Okay,
listen, there is so much fun, like we we are literally para unity
when we all come together, it'sit's it's so much fun. We have

(01:31:35):
vendors, we have a lot ofpeople from the paranormal and we all get
together and we laugh and have agood time and we do our lectures.
We so make sure you bring yourbooks because you're gonna sell shit. I
mean what you do you you know, and get your ear name out there

(01:31:57):
more than it is, right,And it's really only just to it's it's
getting in touch with people like rightin our comments you can see Barry White
or Berry White. I love yoursthat come to Berry Marts. You meant,

(01:32:24):
yes, I did, But itwas funny. The parafust is usually
awesome. Yeah, that's so.That's what I was saying, is you
get to meet you get to meetyour peeps in person that really like you,
right, and so we have likeBarry Marts and our Bobs and our
Steves and stuff like that. Wehave people that that we get to talk

(01:32:45):
to and interact with. And thenyou go to someplace like Parafest and you
get to see our peeps and andinteract and chat with them. And the
people you meet that are like andas a vendor off in hanging out and
doing this, and they are peoplewho really love the paranormal. That's what

(01:33:05):
it's about. Yeah. So Iactually I produced the mass Paracon. I've
done it for four years, andso it sounds like what I try.
I love the smaller boutique events liketo me like like I like the like
the para family coming like coming togetherand also bringing in new faces too.
You don't want to seeing people overand over again. We've never been there.

(01:33:27):
He wants new faces and we've neverbeen there. Well, I mean,
this last year is my was mylast year. I was like,
you know what, I can't dothis anymore because it's it's it's a lot
of work. It's a lot ofwork, it really is. Pattie.
I'll tell you he does a lotof work on this para fust I've been
running it a lot by myself forthe past five years, six years.

(01:33:48):
Yeah, I do a lot ofit myself. I was just gonna say,
how many years is this? Imissed one year? I think it
was, and I think this isour fifth year, I think, and
at other people. A lot ofpeople on the list of last year I
met before. I'm actually so,I'm good friends with James Anto. So
I'm like, I'm like, James, Like James, He's like my he's

(01:34:09):
my brother, Like we're very closeand he Um, I'm like, James,
can you give me a ride toto Rochester? And He's like,
yeah, no problem, brother.And then and then so I'm like,
because he's got I don't know,I don't know if he brings Caleb with
him or not, but Caleb andI, I don't know, that would
be kind of cool because cal waslike my nephew. Like we're so we're
like super close. So so I'mlooking forward to it. Yes, Duo

(01:34:32):
Demonology and um, James Anto andCarl as well. I don't know if
Carl's coming this year. Yeah,I don't know. I'll probably be there
though, Yeah, And that's thething, like I'm like, as Carl
gonna be in the car and I'mgood, just kidding, I'm just kidding.

(01:34:54):
Well, I can tell you that. I mean every year that we
do this, there's always something new. And you know, but the people,
the vendors that we have, they'renot all paranormal. We we mixed
them other type of vendors as well. And La glu Lare leggings. Is
she gonna be there, Yes,yes, she will be there. So
you know, we bring in youwe only have four or five readers.

(01:35:15):
That's that's all we bring in becausewe don't want too many readers. And
then we do you know, thejewelry, the paranormal people and stuff like
that. But you know, wehave dancers like the World Witch's Dance,
and then we have you know,UFO people talking and stuff. I have
to say and not patting myself onthe back, but I think the past
four or five years has been reallyawesome, you know, excluding twenty one.

(01:35:40):
But you know, we've we've we'vedone a lot. It's been fun.
Yeah, this is the this isthis was the first year we didn't
actually do it because we had justdone it the year before and then we
went into lockdown. Yeah. Ye, Coach John in and we're able to
do Parafest last year for twenty twenty. Yeah. The only thing is is

(01:36:00):
that people don't understand is that,like right now, the places that we
rent to do these things are chargingmore money. They are. That's what
happened. That's why I'm not doingit again because I my hotel bill was
like double what it was two yearsago, and so we have to be
just be careful about that because theyare charging more for the room. Yeah

(01:36:23):
yeah, and then they give youI love it because usually the comfort in
it, it's attached to where ourvending place is, so we usually get
a block, you know, foreverybody to stay in, and it's usually
half of what they normally pay.So I'm hoping it's still the same because
it does get expensive. Yeah,you know, it really does. Uh,

(01:36:44):
Cindy, you want a pair ofFreddy Krueger lululue legans. Why is
there such a thing? Oh mygod, Yes, that's what That's what
Chanel asked. I love Freddie Kruegerlula row waggings. I didn't know such
an animal exist did. Chanelle actuallywants to come and be a vendor,

(01:37:04):
but she's not sure what she hadwhat you know, what, what's she
gonna do with her son? SoI get that it's tough when you you're
a single mom or you don't havea place for your kids. It's very
tough, you know. And ohmy gosh, and finding volunteers is not
easy either, because people don't wantto work at my job. It's like

(01:37:25):
we can't find cooks, we can'tfind bartenders, we can't find servers.
I mean it's like, are youkidding me? Nobody wants to work,
you know, that's crazy. Ican't understand it now that we're so far
into COVID, right, I mean, yeah, well what are people doing?
I don't understand how are they living? Well? I mean the part

(01:37:46):
that that was the because concerns me. I mean I actually worked in the
hotel industry. Um so the hotelthat I had, the mass Para Con,
I used to work there. Sowhen I signed the contract to do
it, like it was like therates were like reasonable, but then the
prices went up like to me,like it was like from one hundred to
like four hundred dollars. Like we'relike we're like, why why would you?

(01:38:11):
Why would you? Are they tryingto make up for lost time.
I'm not sure, probably, Andthat's what I was just thinking a few
moments ago, is like, oh, yeah, they've raised the rates because
they missed out on that whole year. Well I think I think too.
It's like right now airplane fares areway down because they're not getting people flying.

(01:38:34):
Well I don't know about that.They're not way down. They were
way down during COVID because the onewas flying. But now, like I've
flown like twenty times the past twomonths, and I will say that every
time it's been packed, Like everyevery I've tried to get Blue American airlines
and like, is that COVID friendlyI've flown Let's see, I've flown Delta

(01:38:57):
and I'm America, can I think? And they were filled, Yeah,
were all filled. And I've donetwo or three flights this year, one
two three, yeah, I meanso, I mean the thing is like
the prices were lower, Like Iwas flying all over because it was I
did not get low rates at all. It was like thirty nine dollars to

(01:39:19):
fly to like Buffalo or you know, it was like this crazy low rates.
But then but then now it's likefour thirty nine, you know,
like it's back to normal and maybeeven higher. I definitely think it's higher
because just because I could get aflight to New York City once upon a
time before COVID for a hundred bucks. Yeah, I spent almost three hundred,

(01:39:42):
no over three hundred just to getsee I can't. That's weird.
So I'm wondering what, like Melanie'sgoing to be paying from where is she
she's in, But she can ifshe gets it enough, she gets it
early enough, she can she canlock in a good rate. Yeah,
so they have like the reduced rateif you get it early, It's like
it could be like a lot less, but then you're toward the end.

(01:40:05):
Like I just booked up because Iflew from DC to get from West Virginia
because I missed my train, soI so basically I flew, but it
was like double the price because Iwaited the last minute. Right, Oh
my god, you missed your train? No, well, I mean,
okay, the train was late,so I was confused by the train.

(01:40:28):
So I was just confused by thetrap. Wasn't the train was late?
Yeah, and then I didn't havethe app. Apparently everybody has the train
app, and I'm like, what, like there's a train app to track
the train, like like they allknew about this app, and I'm like,
I didn't know anything about the app. Yeah, I just wanted to

(01:40:50):
see because I spoke to Melanie today, Um because I created I created her.
Um you know how I have thewhat the hell they call them?
She know? Did you see whatshe just said? She goes, I
got tickets to LA for a friendfor thirty nine dollars in February on hopper.

(01:41:11):
Yeah, wow, thirty nine.But what happens is like those those
tickets, but they like like youget them like that cheap, and then
like six months later they're like,oh, we're changing your flight to like
you know, like three days toget home and like there and like do
you agree with that? And You'relike no, I'm not gonna fly for

(01:41:32):
three days, you know. Soit was almost like there was a catch
to it, like not not everyflight, and then some of them,
some of them did work out becauseI did that for Las Vegas. So
they kept changing my times like theywere like this is through southwest and so
southwest. Notoriously, I think they'vebeen having like like strikes and this is

(01:41:54):
now the Airplane Transportuation Show Yeah,that's how My girlfriend, it's back and
forth to Arizona's usually southwest, andthey changed her flight at the last minute,
right before she was supposed to leave, and she's like, what the
frick. She's like, she wasgoing out the next morning. She's like,

(01:42:14):
they changed my flight without me knowingor you know, asking if it
was okay. Yeah, So Rochesterto Phoenix right now is like three hundred
and fifty two. That's a gooddeal. That's a good deal. Yeah.
I paid that to go to Floridaas well. Actually was a little

(01:42:34):
more. It was almost four hundredto go to flo. I am so
glad I don't fly because if Lordwanted me to fly, I'd have damn
wings and I don't have. Myass is too heavy to fly with the
study So Sandy Griffin's Cindy height andhigh Sam Hello Chanels see Denver to Vegas

(01:43:00):
to San Diego was thirty nine bucks. Um nice, you know, but
you know that's how things change.I mean a plane. Who Sandy really?
And Barry says, I have heardthat it will be expensive to fly
during the holidays. Yeah, usuallyis during the holiday. Yeah, we'll

(01:43:20):
see in March, which great forus. Is that March is downtime,
so I mean it's not holiday seasonanymore, right, we're right, right,
Yeah, it's normally lower in likeFebruary, Like like March is a
great time to have a parafest,Like that's a good time. It really
is, except when it's up incold country. We have him in February.

(01:43:42):
Well we were, We did itin January, then we moved it
to February, and then we movedit to March. And that's only because
some of the people that wanted tocome they were afraid of the snow.
So in March. Snow is minimalin March, so we really have to
worry about it so much. Well, I mean, I love a Boston
then we're covered, but you guysare covered total snow. I mean like
it's it's like another uh like likepeople are shocked by how much snow are

(01:44:04):
you guys get Oh yeah they are. We we definitely get. There are
there are years I have to saythat there's like we're like, where's the
snow? Like, oh, globalwarming, that's right, never yeah,
yeah, because they're saying, likelast year we didn't have shit for snow.
We had what storms and that wasit. Yeah. Same in Boston,
we didn't have a lot. Yeah, and I think this year is

(01:44:25):
going to be the same. They'realready talking warm or temperatures for this year,
so which I'm kind of happy with. That means parafests will be packed
and it's in March, and thenit's in March exactly, which I train.
Taking trains is actually very cheap comparedI've never been on it. Well,

(01:44:45):
I've been on the American Freedom Trainin nineteen seventy six, which was
the bi centennial. M Yeah.So speaking of trains, I just announced
that I'm working on a Haunted trainbook. So, um so I'm like
haunted, like train stations, haunted. Um, go to Hogwarts. I'm
sorry, never mind going to Hogwartsthree quarters? Please? Yeah. I

(01:45:17):
definitely Harry Potter, You're just Ilove Harry Potter too, Oh my god.
But yeah. But yeah, Soif anybody has any stories, reach
out to me at Sambaltruss dot com. Um. And I posted that on
social media and people like love thetopic and you know whether they they're they
they love trains or they have storiesrelated to haunted trains. Um. So

(01:45:39):
the goal is to take a trainall over the country and to go to
these haunted locations. Yeah, Robertsays, planes, trains and automobiles,
free Spirit of John Candy and Marchsixth and twenty seventh of twenty twenty two
is when we are having Rochester.Is it Rogester Winter Beer fust still or

(01:46:03):
no? Now it's just watching andnow it's just Rochester Parafest. That's what
I thought. Yeah, the plugYou're welcome. You're welcome, so you
know. And and guys, youcan go to Rochester Parafest dot org to
get your vendor tables now because weare still looking for vendors as well.

(01:46:24):
And you know what's great about itis, after all the things that I've
been hearing about some of these otherevents, we're the lowest that I've heard
so far. We're seventy five bucksfor the full weekend. That's good.
That's good. Yeah. I mean, like mine, I charged seventy five
and then I would up it towardswhen we get closer to ninety nine.
But not for the whole weekend though. That's that's good. Yeah, it's

(01:46:45):
seventy five for the weekend. Butlike the twenty fifth, which is the
beginning of the event, it's actuallyit's not at that location, and it's
actually the start of the event,the kickoff, and it's actually with Christy
doing her UM Gallery reading at theAvon End, which Cindy kicked it off
last year or two years ago.And then hopefully because I haven't talked to

(01:47:08):
Cindy, but I want to getCindy to do the Saturday night at the
Avon End to do the gallery readingthere, which would be great. And
then during the day through Saturday,we will be at the Valiok Event Center
with the vendors all day and youknow, which would be fantastic. And
Cindy, did you see who wegot? We got Scooby Dude. Yeah,

(01:47:30):
Scooby Doo is gonna be coming,so that's gonna be great. Um.
And then we added Sam. Wealso added um, a WWE wrestler.
We added that's cool. Yeah,we added um, the Rochester Ghostbusters.
We added who was the latest one? Um, God, I'm tryna

(01:47:55):
blank, but we know that weknow that Tony Deville is going to be
there doing tattoos. Um. Yeah, oh, Doc doctor Mystical, you
just added Doctor Mystical as well.Mister steam Punk himself is going to be
there. I love. Yeah,he's amazing. Yes, he's awesome sauce.

(01:48:16):
Yeah, he's going to be there. And um, we have Jeremy
Leonard, we have has Um,has Stacy and Urban's Edge. I have
not heard from her yet. I'mopen. I'm gona contect Stacy. I
want to make sure she's there becauseher sat people love her stuff. Oh
God, love it. So whatI love about it, guys, is

(01:48:40):
that you have not only ghosts people, but you have cryptids and also you
have everything. We have everything.We have UFOs with cryptids, we have
normal Cookie String Fellow is going tobe there for UFOs. These are just
people I know off the top ofmy head. Cookie for UFOs. We
have Mike ann is going to bethere right and he'll be doing it.

(01:49:02):
Big Foot will be thereat big Foot, Steve Calls will be there from South
will be there. Yeah. Imean we have so. We we have
paranormal, We will have probably ChristChris. Chris will be there. Yeah.
We have Jack Kenna, Jack Kennaand um, oh my gosh,

(01:49:25):
you guys, like, why didher name? It happens to me all
the time. Maybe I did thatto you? Could be about Jack Carly
but the best part of I mean, I love we have but we have
Melanie Roschauer from Naked, we haveNaked People, Nielsen from Yeah, Trent
Nielsen from Afraid. We have ChanceDavis from Naked and Afraid. Yeah,

(01:49:50):
you have Naked and a People.Yeah. Oh I love that show.
I love And we have Adam shYeah. Andrew Shade is gonna be there
from Make It Afraid and The AmazingRace. Yeah. Oh my good.
Like I mean, I saw afan like I'm like, oh my god,

(01:50:11):
girl, but well have our friendfrom West Virginia, which is Ghost
of Shepherdstown, which is Mike King, who I fan girl over And I
was like, oh my god,we're gonna meet. First year I got
to meet Mike King. I hadjust come off of watching the show and

(01:50:31):
I love the show. And wewere going down to Pennsylvania and Teddy tells
me, oh, yeah, we'regonna there's uh these people and I'm like,
oh, oh, you're kidding me. So I don't watch a lot
of paranormal shows, which is funnythat I absolutely watched Ghost of Shepherdstown.
I loved it so much. Andthen there was Mike King, and I

(01:50:56):
was like, fan girling hardcore.So it's okay to fan girl all Sam,
It's okay. Well, yeah,so my king was actually at the
event at the Roundhouse by the way. Yeah, yes, yes, because
um the guys were going Ernie inum Dave too, were there. Yes,

(01:51:16):
yes, yes, yes, yes, Yeah. We've got a great
We've got a great lineup this shore. We've got a great lineup and I'm
working on more. So yeah,we have a great lineup. I can't
I can't say it enough. Imean the amount of people that we have
as just coming as like the uhwhat do we want? I don't want
to call him stars, but thepeople that are in the public eye that

(01:51:41):
are going to be there, likeyou, Sam and stuff. It's like
we've got a really good, reallygood grip on it. Well we should
be if I can get him toreply, because Cindy, when you and
I were getting our tattoos done,mister Shane Pittman said that he was going
to be coming. So the thingthat Shane will say, yes, yeah,
we're still waiting. I like shea lot. I mean, of

(01:52:04):
course, I mean friends with Dave. So he worked on the holds Her
files. I wanted Dave, butDave is so like busy, you know,
but I'm hoping that Shane will come. Yeah. But getting Jeremy Leonard
too, that was an awesome finefor us. So Jeremy is a great
guy. Yeah he um. Hewas like a Ghost of Morgan City that

(01:52:24):
Sarah Lemos and another person to considerSarah Lemos, she she was on Ghost
of Morgan City. I'm really goodfriends with her. She's a lovely person.
I didn't even I didn't even thinkabout that, but that would be
awesome. She she was at amass paracon and she's like a ray of
light. And and her she's goodfriends with Jeremy too. That really yep.

(01:52:45):
I'll have to I'll have to do. I'll have to get a hole
of her and Saider some info.Um. But see, it's always every
year. That's what happened, Sam, Like you, they they go back
and they tell these other people they'regood friends with and they end up coming,
which is right. This Danny classwas the one that helped us right
from the beginning. He brought insome real good people. Yea. Yeah,

(01:53:08):
Dan, Dana and I are oddlyconnected, like every time, like
I'm on a radio show, he'son the either the day before or the
day after. So I was justbut I was I was just on close
to coast and he was on theday after and like like literally every radio
show that I've ever been on.So he is he like, is he
gonna be on Tomorrow's going to askwe have we need to have Danny on.

(01:53:31):
We haven't had him on in alittle while. It's been a while.
Yeah, well let's I mean,let's keep that tradition alive. You
know. It's like, how Dad, Well, I want to get David
back on two because Dave Trader isone of my favorites. I mean,
he's just we could not get ridof him. He just kept popping back.
Oh my god, David. Ilove I love Dave Trader like he

(01:53:55):
is a he's a good friend too, Like I only trust a few people
in the paranormal field, like Itrust him and and and he like when
you go onto a deep transfer,you can like have that person have your
back, like it's that that's truefriendship. That's huge because that's what that's
that's very important to make sure thatyou have somebody that's there that will be

(01:54:15):
able to bring you out if youhave told Teddy that too, So Teddy,
Teddy knows he's aware. I mean, this will continue what um to
be a large I'm hoping this willcontinue to get larger and larger, you
know. And because it's all,it's all for the veterans. I mean,

(01:54:38):
we don't take any of it,so we pay the bills and then
what's left goes to the vets,you know. So yep, we do
have the only thing that Yep,Teddy, the aware w LFE. What
the hell does that mean? Andso speaking of that veterans, I just
want to I want to so myted Teddy, you know this, but

(01:54:59):
my my biological father is a veteranand he yet I found out this weekend
that he is a stage four ofcancer. Positive energy to him. And
then like like when I do whenI do that, I felt like by
me participating in the Rochester Parafest,that I'm in honor of him, you

(01:55:20):
know, and sort of like puttingthat positive energy because I think the veterans
are um overlooked like often and it'simportant for us to get back to the
community. I had goose bumps whenI got goose bumps when you just said
that. Listen, this is whatbothers me so much because my uncle was
part of the VA and head cancerand I just don't feel as though there

(01:55:43):
was enough services for him. Right, yep, this is what this is
what bothers me the most is yousign a contract with the government that says
you are now the property of theUS government. Yep, that's for life.
That's not just oh here's three four, two years. This is for
life, that they are the propertyof the US government. However, the
US government doesn't have their goddamn backs, and that's what pisses me off.

(01:56:09):
Have their backs. If this isthe property of the US government, this
person that gave their life for you, then you damn well should be paying
them bookoo bucks to be property ofthe US government. And they don't get
near enough. That VA is alwaysunderfunded. There's never enough, oh understaffed

(01:56:30):
as well staffed well, right,and and so how about how about what
these senators and these congress people get. How about you give that to our
veterans. How about they get thosebenefits. That's what I feel. Yeah,
there's a lot that could be fixedin this country. I know,

(01:56:55):
She's like, yeah, I know, I trust me. Oh, I've
seen Cindy wound up many many times, many many times. So yeah,
oh yes, you yeah, so, but you know, I just want
to kind of we've we've got toend here, right, Yeah. When

(01:57:16):
I get riled up, there's usuallya damn good reason for it. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm very passionate and youwill see it. Yeah. So
I just want to put this outhere because we got to leave here in
a couple of minutes and just saythank everybody for coming in and hanging out
with us, because you know it, we look forward I know that Cindy
and I do every Monday. Welook forward to bringing on the guests.
We look forward to chatting with allof our friends that follow us UM.

(01:57:41):
And it's it's been a pleasure.We're celebrating five and a half years a
parent Talk radio, UM, whichis a very long time for It'll be
six years in February. Oh yeah, six years. Yeah, it'll be
or for me, right, Yes, it'll be poor for me in February.
Yeah. We've been around a longtime, so yeah, especially for

(01:58:02):
being grungy and and uh what's outof the word, uh, truthful and
not liked in every circle. We'renot liked in every circle, but that
I don't care about that. Oh, unfiltered the right word. You're unfiltered,
unfiltered, uncensored, unfiltered, unfiltered, and uncensored. So I love

(01:58:27):
this. Did give you a verystuf. Dave remembered the popping in and
out when I mentioned it to himat New Jersey. Junya, that's amazing,
and Robert says, understaffed, underpaid, and overwhelmed. And that is
for sure my friend. Yeah,Lens says, thank you, Sam,
Thanks fantastic guests. Oh, Robert, it's so funny. I thought you

(01:58:48):
were on before me, um,Robert says, and for for me,
I came in just after Cindy.I didn't realize that. That's awesome.
Yeah, we have some great peoplethat follow up Halloween. Halloween this time
it's been it's been five years,right because I was on the show the

(01:59:09):
Halloween before I started. Oh,so this will be four years the first
time that I was a guest onyour show. I was a guest first
and then I yea yeah. WellI want to close. I want to
close with a couple of things here. One is guys, Rochester Parafest.

(01:59:29):
Make sure you go to Rochester Parafestdot org Um if any of you want
to help us with getting it outthere, you can take them from my
page. I'll send you the commercialsor the ads whatever for it. Send
it out to your friends. Wewould love that. Um, it is
for the veterans. We're trying toget as many people there as possible.

(01:59:50):
So if you want anything like that, please let me know. You know
that every year we ask are thepeople that follow us or come to our
event, like our stars quote unquoteor our you know people, we ask
them to share it as well,and it just benefits them as as well
as it benefits the the veterans.So we all do our part, and

(02:00:13):
that's what makes it a great pairof unity event because we all help each
other and that's awesome. So rememberit is. Oh yeah, don't forget
the Ghost of American Revolution, whichI want to get ahold of. I
need a copy of that, yesright, yes, it's coming out November
fifteenth, but I have I'm gonnahave a few signed copies. So for
friends on social media, oh,you can get a signed copy. Awesome,

(02:00:36):
awesome. So Rochester Parafest dot orgget your vendor tables and tables now,
guys, also go over and checkout Sam bultrusts dot com. He's
got his books. There's anyway it'sthe redneck that comes out of me,

(02:00:59):
I'm saying. And for people's names, I mean, that's that's all I
can say. I will see thatI wasn't Haunted towns and they said my
name the same way. So uhso a porter from haunted towns like ball
tresses, funny and guys. Onemore thing, it is Halloween season.

(02:01:27):
It is the time to get outthere. Um, Genevieve. Genevieve was
on here and we want to talkabout Jersey Short Ghost Tours. Make sure
you get down there. She's ashe's a member of w LFE. Get
out there and support her. Um, Jersey Ghost Tours because that's a lot
of fun, a lot of alot of fun. And Sam, you're
amazing. We had to ask youtonight. You so much. It was

(02:01:50):
so I can't wait to see youI r L. Yeah, I mean
so you know, hopefully you knowwe'll get to that what was it chat?
Yeah RL. Let's see as lage sex location. Well maybe someday,

(02:02:18):
maybe someday I'll get a chance towork with you, Sam. It'd
be awesome to do that. Someday. I just want to put in there
for guys. UM. Next Monday, we have Gina from the Fox Den
and Mamade joining us UM, Somake sure that you're here next Monday,

(02:02:38):
and November eighth is going to bea very special show because Buddy the Bigfoot
will be joining us. Buddy's goingto talk, but we're going to be
exploring the the origins of Buddy.But we also have there is a conflict
bring between Buddy and a ww ESuperstar and they are going to be confronting

(02:03:03):
each other live on our show Novembereighth. Are they going to wrestle Yes,
they are. They are going towrestle UM the summer of twenty twenty
two UM, and we will letpeople know where that is. They will
be wrestling for the world title forHide and Go Seek Championship. Okay,

(02:03:31):
but it's a thing. It's areal thing. I mean, they this
started. It started in Gettysburg.It started in Gettysburg. They locked up
and they they they it started inGettysburg and it's it's going to end uh
next summer. But they are goingto be meeting head on for the first

(02:03:54):
time since Gettysburg. November eighth,what what was it? Buddy? Yeah?
So and Buddy does not talk.He grunts, and thank god,
I know what he says. SoI get to be his what do they
call it? Oh? My god? Age, sex and location, Chanelle

(02:04:15):
says. I always replied old enoughnot to care. Not tonight, I
have a headache and not my mother'sbasement. Hello, what's the word I'm
looking for? Interpreter. I'm goingto be Buddy's translator. Yes, that's
what I meant, translator. Yes, So that would be fun for November

(02:04:35):
eighth, So it'll be it'll beawesome. So, guys, wonderful evening,
wonderful time here tonight. Again,Thank you Sam. Guys, thank
you so much for your comments andhanging out with us. It's been amazing.
Hey Sam, where are you next? What event do you have next?
I was spoken to say we betterbe doing our what up? Right?
Okay? So I actually I haveto go home to be with my

(02:04:58):
father. Also, I had aking sold two events this week, but
I'm doing um a book launch andin Virginia, UT. I also doing
an event at the Oliver House comingup in November. Just go to my
website Sambautress dot com. But Ihave two book Slettings for Ghosts of the
American Revolution. That's amazing. Yeah, and hopefully we'll get a copy of

(02:05:20):
that. So the Mary Washington Housein Virginia, that's where I'm gonna be.
No, awesome, awesome, that'scool, Cindy. What do you
got coming up? Tomorrow? IsTaro Tuesday? AK Taco Tuesday's Teddy likes
to call it, um Taro Tuesday. We are going to start it.

(02:05:41):
I never get tacos on Tuesday,though, What the hell? There's something
wrong with that seven pm Eastern Standardtime. Roll call starts at that seven
o'clock ish hour. Um, thereading start around eight ish, and we're
going to try not to go tolike one o'clock in the morning. I
don't know how you do five hours. I really don't. I don't know

(02:06:03):
how you half hours last week.I don't know either. I talk a
lot. I guess yeah, I'dbe like no, if i'd be sleeping,
people be watching me snore on onthere, you know. And guys,
don't forget, we were live onthe TV channel tonight, So that
means the U the replay will beshortly after that, I believe. So

(02:06:26):
I don't forget that we're there also. Okay, So on Friday night,
I'm going to be at the CrackerBox Palace Fright Night at the farm.
It's uh starts at six thirty pmand there's UM it's on It's at sixty
four twenty Shaker Road, North Rowsin Wolket and they're gonna be doing Haunted
Woods Walk, Haunted Hey Rides,Haunted Contact, and I'll be doing readings

(02:06:50):
for you. You pay extra toget to reading, and that's what we're
going to do. And it goesto help the Cracker Box Palace because it's
an animal haven, anmal shelter andthat's very cool. That's to raise raise
funds for that. So yeah,for the animals through the winter and stuff.
So please you guys go check outmy thuschic Cindy on Facebook, on

(02:07:15):
YouTube, and on Instagram. Ihave put Fright Night up on there,
so if you need to scroll throughor look for it purposefully, then please
do that. If you can't makeit, then then maybe donate to um
Cracker Box Palace. So UM,Saturday night, I'm going to do a
Halloween party and we're gonna be doingreadings uh Saturday night and then Sunday,

(02:07:41):
I do UM Bipolar um DM andwith the Bipolar Dragons. Are you going
to be that's Halloween? What's up? Oh no, no, we're not
doing it. Thank you for remindingme we're not doing it. I do
have my UM. I do havemy my All Signs readings that I do
as well on Sunday though, soI'll probably do that earlier in the day,

(02:08:03):
so I'll have my evening free.Okay, Well, Thursday for me,
guys, I have a Halloween karaokenight. That's where I'm going to
be. Everybody's dressing up and singing. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
There is prizes for best costume andstuff like that. So that's Thursday.
Other than that, oh and Saturdayor Sunday, guys, from four

(02:08:26):
to eight Caledonia Courtyard. We havebusinesses from all over the area coming and
setting up a table and handing outcandy to the kids. It's a safe
space so that kids can walk throughand get candy through the courtyard in Caledonia.
So come and see us there.I know that Buddy the big Foot's

(02:08:46):
there, I know Scooby Doo's there, and there's also a live six foot
walking talking bowling pin What that's crazy? Wait? When is the When is
the karaoke? This Thursday? ThisThursday? Okay, I need to see
what I'm doing on Thursday, becausethere you go. So next Thursday,

(02:09:09):
so Halloween party at Raider Lanes.You can check that out at h and
it's on Facebook as Raider Lane's Inc. If you want to and then or
you can find it on their website, which is the Alleyway Caledonia dot com.
So you can check that out.So um, and I guess that's

(02:09:30):
it for now. Don't forget that. Next Monday is going to be Gina
and Mama Die from the Fox Denand I think I'm done. Have a
happy, happy, happy happy soyes, thank you, Yeah you guys,
have a happy fun save Halloween andsowing and a happy Halloween birthday to

(02:09:52):
our friend Channel. Yeah. Andwe will have Sam back, guys,
don't worry, he'll be back.Also, all right, Cindy, do
you know what time it is?It is wherever they're at darkness there's always
hello, Hello, bye guys.Thank you for listening to Para Talk Radio

(02:10:22):
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