August 19, 2025 • 20 mins
Each Tuesday, we discuss an older entertainment property, and currently, that's Lost. This episode showed us that some castaways have not just daddy issues, but also mommy issues. Poor Claire! We also draw a parallel between Desmond's ability to see the future and the worries that come with being a parent. Mentioned: Lostpedia.
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 13, "The Man From Tallahassee." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
This episode was recorded before a live studio audience ... of dogs.
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 13, "The Man From Tallahassee." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
This episode was recorded before a live studio audience ... of dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of August eighteenth,
we're continuing with Lost Season three, episode twelve, Paravian, which, uh, hey,
guess what you guys, Claire. You know Claire, he's got
(01:01):
daddy issues.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
She's also got mommy isshoes.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
She's not my shoes all over the place. She sort
of knew that Christian Shepherd was her dad, right, that
sort of been implied, And the one where he was
with Ana Lucia, Australia. He sort of got that, but
now there he is saying, I am your father, Claire.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right, and at a moment in her life when she's
quite traumatized.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And has a really bad die job, yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Terrible makeup and dyed black hair and has you know,
there was this accident and I think she was driving,
I think she says, and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was either driving or not. But what she did
was tell her mother she hated her and wished she
would die. And then there was next.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And then the mother was.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All but dead.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Where was nestor Carbonel at this moment, because did he
entered with this bus? I forgot his name, Richard something.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, we could assume that Richard's there when anything, ever,
anything creepy happens to anybody.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, And I only figured out from lost Pedia that
the flashback was like more than five years.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like the accident.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And then when Claire came back to visit her mom
in the hospital at the end and she was pregnant, so.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You knew it was was five years later.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It was five years Well, I figured it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Had to be because you know, for one thing, that
her hair had to grow out.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Her hair time and she.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Was also, you know, quite pregnant, so right, you know,
yeah it had been it had been enough time so
that you know, she did not pay attention to Christian saying,
don't let your mother live like this for right a
long time, and she did so. Parenting tip number one,
make yourself a living will. If my parents did not
(03:00):
do this, just constantly say don't want to be kept
alive by machines. By the way, did you know I
don't want to be kept by alive by machines? He
mentioned it so often that when the time came where
we had to make that decision, we were all like, oh, yeah,
we know what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, we know it's clear.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He made it super clear on a large number of occasions.
But apparently Claire's mom never occurred to her to say,
by the way, I really don't want to be on
a machine for five years, monny. But just don't anytime
you're driving with your kid or anything that could come
to a bad end, don't ever get in the kind
(03:42):
of conversation where your child's going to remember for the
rest of her life that she that's the last thing
she said to you. Right, turn it around, Turn it
around quick yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
When you see that semi bear, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You, honey. I know you don't. I know you don't
mean that it's okay. Yeah, yeah, that's a heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
There, it is, poor little Claire.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But also, I mean I know that, like everyone on
this show, she's had her struggles. But is this like
the third time that she has told Charlie like go away,
I don't want you around me and my baby, like
I'd never want to see you or talk to you again.
And then by the end of the episode we'll get
(04:29):
through this together, Charlie like whiplash this poor guy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yes, yes, I mean really, under the circumstances, you can't
really tell a dude, I never want to see you again,
if like you're one of twenty people on and writing
exactly where, even if you went somewhere out in the jungle,
you could not guarantee that you would not see him again, right,
but yeah, make up your mind, and you know, doesn't
(05:01):
look like anybody else is really flocking to you. So
it was unfortunate timing that their picnic was disrupted. Picnics
are bad on the does ever ask anybody for a picnic?
Last time there was a picnic let me got shot. Okay, Yeah,
so you know xnay on the Picnics, nothing good can happen.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
No, you're right about that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah. My husband was skeptical about her plan with the
birds and kept saying, well, that's the dumbest thing I've
ever heard, Like, oh, but no, look, you'll catch it
and you'll put in. You said, they didn't even put
where they were on the note. They just put one
where an island somewhere. I said, well, they don't know
(05:50):
where they are, right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Still, we explained the whole.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Thing about the pilot.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And we were off course and we ran this way
and come find us.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You can just try.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Also, Michael and Walt might be out somewhere. Yeah, maybe
they have some hints for you, right, just.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To let people know that they're still alive. I guess
if somebody go and tell Claire's mother she's laying unconscious
and dead.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But so now we know we're still alive somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Now we know that the person that Christian confronted when
he was with one Lucia was actually the aunt.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, he does not like him, right, which good taste?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh, but if only she and Jackie do there's some
there siblings good time, good thing. He's not the one
buzzing around her like Charlie. That would be.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Awkward, Yes, certainly would. I don't think the the other
who is in charge of saying who's good would consider
that a good thing.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, so that was what do we think Paravian? Why
is that the title of this It's biplane right.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, it's like what you write on an airmail letters.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, that's true by airmail, So the birds are going
to be airmail right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Sure, it was a little it's a stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
They ran out of ideas for titles. It was the
same in the same episode that our merry band of
other Hunters came upon the field of weird objects.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, they ran into those sonic that weird fence or something,
and Locke just shoved McHale through this fence so that
he would start foaming at the mouth and allegedly die.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's only mostly dead.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, he seems only mostly dead to me.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So yeah, it's yeah, that was a whole I actually, yeah,
this whole thing where they were traveling through to get
to where they think Jack is I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then they finally got to where Jackie is and
they think he's running away, and then they see he's
just playing football with the others.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What right, smiling a cage somewhere. Yep, he's living it
up somehow. That's not they expected. Yep. Yeah, well we're angry.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We came all this way and risked death for that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
What the heck?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I thought we were rescuing, you dummy. The maneuver that
Kate like they leaned a tree or something up against
one of those yeahs of death and she sort.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Of like shimmed up there. Yeah, that seemed like didn't
make any sense to me that that would work. But no,
you know it wouldn't. Since has anything made sense to me?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. You have to have to
willingly suspend disbelief, right, Yeah, I have here in my notes.
I feel like we've seen the same fight between Clara
and Charlie more than once, so.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, And then they make up sort of a point
of showing when in the flashback when Claire's meeting you know,
Christian's like, let's just go have a cup of coffee,
and she's like, at the end, don't tell me your name, so.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We know that she doesn't know his name.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Tell me your name or the names of any of
your children who are like one.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Day meet exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean, to what degree do they even know each
other's last names? They just I guess they had the
manifest they could look it up. Would you necessarily see
Jack Shepherd and think, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, But she says she doesn't know the Christian's name,
so sure, sure you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Again, we observe that guy gets a lot of work
for someone who's dead.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He does. That actor is busy, oh is always.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They're looking smarmy. Yes, you know, possibly you want to
introduce yourself to your daughter before she is whatever age
Claire was there, Yeah, before she's old enough to drive,
certainly right.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, And we don't know what, if anything her mother
told her about.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Her parentage, so too late now oh well, yeah, and
the the.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Aunt seemed kind of crabby, even just with Claire, like
not not just with Christian, who we know probably deserved it.
But so it's all a part of I guess she
was a she was a teen, she was you know,
kind of goth, and she wasn't getting along with either
(11:57):
of her parental figures meeting her mom and her aunt
who supposedly who seems to be raising her helping.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So yeah, it doesn't seem like a very happy person.
I would forget her backstory.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
When you on lost Pedia, everything is a link, but
I I never click.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You don't click.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I don't click because I don't. I'm I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The recaps are bad enough because they're like, yeah and
later this will because like the guys, we haven't gotten
there yet, don't help Well.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How long ago was this show on? I think they
sort of feel it's it's fair if you're looking here,
it's fair game. I know, wasn't wasn't meant to be. Uh,
it's meant to be a resource for people like me
going back to say, wait a minute, didn't this guy
do this thing right? Instead of uh newbies?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, but it does.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Honestly, it does help me a lot. Yeah, it is
very very helpful resource, which we've mentioned here many times.
Lost Pedia. Is it lost pedia Dutch com we'll reckon
well dot fandom dot dot com, random dot com. I
bet you could get there if you just if you
just google lost pedia, it'll come and very very uh
(13:14):
highly recommend as a companion for watching this. Yes, whether
it's because you go what, we'll explain it to you,
or gee, I watched this before and I kind of
remember this is this a thing that happened? It'll tell you.
And uh, you know, if you see this, see a
(13:35):
character and wonder what what up with that? You can
click on the character. So it's very because just the
mythology and the range of characters on this show are
oft times you know in the flash forward, flashback, flash sideways,
fash all over the place. There's a lot. It's a lot.
(13:55):
So but yes, there there is certainly the possibility of
being spoiled. Though. There is so much stuff going on
this that you could exploit yourself for a good twenty
percent of it and you would still have plenty.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Of sudvice like wait a minute, what.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And sometimes they might do one thing and then change
their mind to do something completely different.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So yeah, you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But h see, do we have any more parenting tips
from this particular episode? You know, be honest with your children,
maybe not, maybe don't keep the secret of their parentage
for that many years.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, and uh, if you were much never going to end, well, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Try to be involved. Yeah, yeah, but you know things
are complicated, right. He's a doctor with a family in
the United States and Jesu in Australia, so.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh well, and uh but are we supposed to think
are we supposed to basically blame uh aunt Lindsay or
the final bender that ended Christian's life?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Like I think we probably are.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know, he goes, he goes to Australia and he
enlists on Lucia to drive him all over.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And and we know he does not come out of
that alive.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So he is not so and he does try to
see Claire. Right, whether Claire would want to see him
or not, I don't know. She didn't seem to be too.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
She's thrilled with him, right, and uh yeah, because I
mean a parenting tip if you haven't been involved in
your kid's life for twenty years and then you show
up and are like, I'm saving your mother's life, but
also you should probably let her die, like this isn't good, It's.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Not gonna go.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well go.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Another parenting tip, have your kid watch nature shows so
that if they're ever stranded on an island, they can
recognize birds who they can send messages with.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, we yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean she's like, sees this flock of birds.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
She's sitting on the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
She sees this flock of birds overhead, and she somehow
knows that they have like those tags on their legs.
She saw it, she says, and that's what gave her
the idea.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like she's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
She's watched you know, the nature channel, and she sees
she's seen that before, so she knows. Yeah, okay, I
love that, you know, it gives you hope. Good for you.
But by the way, this other guy is seeing your
boyfriend dying on the regular scene.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, that's that's not a nice way for doesn't have
to live.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Either or do Yeah, it's like always coming up and
go ahead. Maybe you shouldn't be doing that, right.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I feel like Charlie at this point should be like, okay,
whatever you.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Say, absolutely, where do you see me going? Right in
this instance, Yes, if people seem to have information parenting
tip that will be useful to you, maybe listen to
them and be willing to well to follow their lead.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Right, although boy, it is it is draining.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean, Doesmond, we feel your pain because we know
what it's like to be like responsible for the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Actual existence and life of another.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Human Like it looks pretty beat honestly.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, he looks tired.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And you know, if you've ever stayed up all night
because you had a baby you wouldn't sleep, or had
a child who was sick, or you know, just it is.
I let them go off in the world while you
sit at home.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean it's hard. I know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I have often had visions of bad things happening to
my kids. They haven't been necessarily true, but I still,
you know, run to them and say, don't do this right. So, yeah,
it's exhausting. I have to worry about somebody else. In
his case, it's a little more creepy.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
But yes, but we feel I feel you feel.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I see if Hurley will take you on a ride
in the in the mini bus, yes, he hasn't gotten ride.
There's some golf. They still playing golf.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well they were playing pink pu.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, he will see a golf ball hitting Charlie in
the head and yeah, like, no, you must stop. Well,
what do we have ahead for us here in lost Land?
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Next Tuesday, we will continue with season three, episode thirteen
of Lost, the Man from Tallahassee, about which I can
say nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay, but this is a big one. Huh.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Is it a lock flashback episode?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yes, it is the Man from Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I feel like i've heard this like this title is
you know this episode is. Yeah, it's sort of legendary.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well it leads to I'm more interested in the one
that follows a few on but it follows from this.
But anyway, less said the better. But yes, the man
from Tallahassee. Who could that be?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We wonder?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Anyway, We'll see you back here tomorrow to discuss the
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of August eighteenth,
we're continuing with Lost Season three, episode twelve, Paravian, which, uh, hey,
guess what you guys, Claire. You know Claire, he's got
(01:01):
daddy issues.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
She's also got mommy isshoes.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
She's not my shoes all over the place. She sort
of knew that Christian Shepherd was her dad, right, that
sort of been implied, And the one where he was
with Ana Lucia, Australia. He sort of got that, but
now there he is saying, I am your father, Claire.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Right, and at a moment in her life when she's
quite traumatized.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And has a really bad die job, yeah, really.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Terrible makeup and dyed black hair and has you know,
there was this accident and I think she was driving,
I think she says, and.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It was either driving or not. But what she did
was tell her mother she hated her and wished she
would die. And then there was next.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And then the mother was.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All but dead.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Where was nestor Carbonel at this moment, because did he
entered with this bus? I forgot his name, Richard something.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, we could assume that Richard's there when anything, ever,
anything creepy happens to anybody.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, And I only figured out from lost Pedia that
the flashback was like more than five years.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like the accident.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And then when Claire came back to visit her mom
in the hospital at the end and she was pregnant, so.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You knew it was was five years later.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It was five years Well, I figured it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Had to be because you know, for one thing, that
her hair had to grow out.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Her hair time and she.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Was also, you know, quite pregnant, so right, you know,
yeah it had been it had been enough time so
that you know, she did not pay attention to Christian saying,
don't let your mother live like this for right a
long time, and she did so. Parenting tip number one,
make yourself a living will. If my parents did not
(03:00):
do this, just constantly say don't want to be kept
alive by machines. By the way, did you know I
don't want to be kept by alive by machines? He
mentioned it so often that when the time came where
we had to make that decision, we were all like, oh, yeah,
we know what he wants.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, we know it's clear.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He made it super clear on a large number of occasions.
But apparently Claire's mom never occurred to her to say,
by the way, I really don't want to be on
a machine for five years, monny. But just don't anytime
you're driving with your kid or anything that could come
to a bad end, don't ever get in the kind
(03:42):
of conversation where your child's going to remember for the
rest of her life that she that's the last thing
she said to you. Right, turn it around, Turn it
around quick yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
When you see that semi bear, I forget.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You, honey. I know you don't. I know you don't
mean that it's okay. Yeah, yeah, that's a heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
There, it is, poor little Claire.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But also, I mean I know that, like everyone on
this show, she's had her struggles. But is this like
the third time that she has told Charlie like go away,
I don't want you around me and my baby, like
I'd never want to see you or talk to you again.
And then by the end of the episode we'll get
(04:29):
through this together, Charlie like whiplash this poor guy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yes, yes, I mean really, under the circumstances, you can't
really tell a dude, I never want to see you again,
if like you're one of twenty people on and writing
exactly where, even if you went somewhere out in the jungle,
you could not guarantee that you would not see him again, right,
but yeah, make up your mind, and you know, doesn't
(05:01):
look like anybody else is really flocking to you. So
it was unfortunate timing that their picnic was disrupted. Picnics
are bad on the does ever ask anybody for a picnic?
Last time there was a picnic let me got shot. Okay, Yeah,
so you know xnay on the Picnics, nothing good can happen.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
No, you're right about that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah. My husband was skeptical about her plan with the
birds and kept saying, well, that's the dumbest thing I've
ever heard, Like, oh, but no, look, you'll catch it
and you'll put in. You said, they didn't even put
where they were on the note. They just put one
where an island somewhere. I said, well, they don't know
(05:50):
where they are, right.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Still, we explained the whole.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Thing about the pilot.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And we were off course and we ran this way
and come find us.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
You can just try.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Also, Michael and Walt might be out somewhere. Yeah, maybe
they have some hints for you, right, just.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To let people know that they're still alive. I guess
if somebody go and tell Claire's mother she's laying unconscious
and dead.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yikes.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But so now we know we're still alive somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Now we know that the person that Christian confronted when
he was with one Lucia was actually the aunt.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, he does not like him, right, which good taste?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh, but if only she and Jackie do there's some
there siblings good time, good thing. He's not the one
buzzing around her like Charlie. That would be.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Awkward, Yes, certainly would. I don't think the the other
who is in charge of saying who's good would consider
that a good thing.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, so that was what do we think Paravian? Why
is that the title of this It's biplane right.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, it's like what you write on an airmail letters.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, that's true by airmail, So the birds are going
to be airmail right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Sure, it was a little it's a stretch.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
They ran out of ideas for titles. It was the
same in the same episode that our merry band of
other Hunters came upon the field of weird objects.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, they ran into those sonic that weird fence or something,
and Locke just shoved McHale through this fence so that
he would start foaming at the mouth and allegedly die.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
But I don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's only mostly dead.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, he seems only mostly dead to me.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So yeah, it's yeah, that was a whole I actually, yeah,
this whole thing where they were traveling through to get
to where they think Jack is I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then they finally got to where Jackie is and
they think he's running away, and then they see he's
just playing football with the others.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What right, smiling a cage somewhere. Yep, he's living it
up somehow. That's not they expected. Yep. Yeah, well we're angry.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
We came all this way and risked death for that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
What the heck?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I thought we were rescuing, you dummy. The maneuver that
Kate like they leaned a tree or something up against
one of those yeahs of death and she sort.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Of like shimmed up there. Yeah, that seemed like didn't
make any sense to me that that would work. But no,
you know it wouldn't. Since has anything made sense to me?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. You have to have to
willingly suspend disbelief, right, Yeah, I have here in my notes.
I feel like we've seen the same fight between Clara
and Charlie more than once, so.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, And then they make up sort of a point
of showing when in the flashback when Claire's meeting you know,
Christian's like, let's just go have a cup of coffee,
and she's like, at the end, don't tell me your name, so.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
We know that she doesn't know his name.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Tell me your name or the names of any of
your children who are like one.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Day meet exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean, to what degree do they even know each
other's last names? They just I guess they had the
manifest they could look it up. Would you necessarily see
Jack Shepherd and think, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, But she says she doesn't know the Christian's name,
so sure, sure you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Again, we observe that guy gets a lot of work
for someone who's dead.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He does. That actor is busy, oh is always.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They're looking smarmy. Yes, you know, possibly you want to
introduce yourself to your daughter before she is whatever age
Claire was there, Yeah, before she's old enough to drive,
certainly right.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, And we don't know what, if anything her mother
told her about.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Her parentage, so too late now oh well, yeah, and
the the.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Aunt seemed kind of crabby, even just with Claire, like
not not just with Christian, who we know probably deserved it.
But so it's all a part of I guess she
was a she was a teen, she was you know,
kind of goth, and she wasn't getting along with either
(11:57):
of her parental figures meeting her mom and her aunt
who supposedly who seems to be raising her helping.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So yeah, it doesn't seem like a very happy person.
I would forget her backstory.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
When you on lost Pedia, everything is a link, but
I I never click.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You don't click.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I don't click because I don't. I'm I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The recaps are bad enough because they're like, yeah and
later this will because like the guys, we haven't gotten
there yet, don't help Well.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
How long ago was this show on? I think they
sort of feel it's it's fair if you're looking here,
it's fair game. I know, wasn't wasn't meant to be. Uh,
it's meant to be a resource for people like me
going back to say, wait a minute, didn't this guy
do this thing right? Instead of uh newbies?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, but it does.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Honestly, it does help me a lot. Yeah, it is
very very helpful resource, which we've mentioned here many times.
Lost Pedia. Is it lost pedia Dutch com we'll reckon
well dot fandom dot dot com, random dot com. I
bet you could get there if you just if you
just google lost pedia, it'll come and very very uh
(13:14):
highly recommend as a companion for watching this. Yes, whether
it's because you go what, we'll explain it to you,
or gee, I watched this before and I kind of
remember this is this a thing that happened? It'll tell you.
And uh, you know, if you see this, see a
(13:35):
character and wonder what what up with that? You can
click on the character. So it's very because just the
mythology and the range of characters on this show are
oft times you know in the flash forward, flashback, flash sideways,
fash all over the place. There's a lot. It's a lot.
(13:55):
So but yes, there there is certainly the possibility of
being spoiled. Though. There is so much stuff going on
this that you could exploit yourself for a good twenty
percent of it and you would still have plenty.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Of sudvice like wait a minute, what.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And sometimes they might do one thing and then change
their mind to do something completely different.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
So yeah, you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But h see, do we have any more parenting tips
from this particular episode? You know, be honest with your children,
maybe not, maybe don't keep the secret of their parentage
for that many years.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, and uh, if you were much never going to end, well, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Try to be involved. Yeah, yeah, but you know things
are complicated, right. He's a doctor with a family in
the United States and Jesu in Australia, so.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh well, and uh but are we supposed to think
are we supposed to basically blame uh aunt Lindsay or
the final bender that ended Christian's life?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Like I think we probably are.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You know, he goes, he goes to Australia and he
enlists on Lucia to drive him all over.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And and we know he does not come out of
that alive.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So he is not so and he does try to
see Claire. Right, whether Claire would want to see him
or not, I don't know. She didn't seem to be too.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
She's thrilled with him, right, and uh yeah, because I
mean a parenting tip if you haven't been involved in
your kid's life for twenty years and then you show
up and are like, I'm saving your mother's life, but
also you should probably let her die, like this isn't good, It's.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Not gonna go.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well go.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Another parenting tip, have your kid watch nature shows so
that if they're ever stranded on an island, they can
recognize birds who they can send messages with.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, we yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean she's like, sees this flock of birds.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
She's sitting on the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
She sees this flock of birds overhead, and she somehow
knows that they have like those tags on their legs.
She saw it, she says, and that's what gave her
the idea.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Like she's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
She's watched you know, the nature channel, and she sees
she's seen that before, so she knows. Yeah, okay, I
love that, you know, it gives you hope. Good for you.
But by the way, this other guy is seeing your
boyfriend dying on the regular scene.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, that's that's not a nice way for doesn't have
to live.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Either or do Yeah, it's like always coming up and
go ahead. Maybe you shouldn't be doing that, right.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I feel like Charlie at this point should be like, okay,
whatever you.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Say, absolutely, where do you see me going? Right in
this instance, Yes, if people seem to have information parenting
tip that will be useful to you, maybe listen to
them and be willing to well to follow their lead.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Right, although boy, it is it is draining.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I mean, Doesmond, we feel your pain because we know
what it's like to be like responsible for the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Actual existence and life of another.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Human Like it looks pretty beat honestly.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, he looks tired.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And you know, if you've ever stayed up all night
because you had a baby you wouldn't sleep, or had
a child who was sick, or you know, just it is.
I let them go off in the world while you
sit at home.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean it's hard. I know.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I have often had visions of bad things happening to
my kids. They haven't been necessarily true, but I still,
you know, run to them and say, don't do this right. So, yeah,
it's exhausting. I have to worry about somebody else. In
his case, it's a little more creepy.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
But yes, but we feel I feel you feel.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I see if Hurley will take you on a ride
in the in the mini bus, yes, he hasn't gotten ride.
There's some golf. They still playing golf.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well they were playing pink pu.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, he will see a golf ball hitting Charlie in
the head and yeah, like, no, you must stop. Well,
what do we have ahead for us here in lost Land?
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Next Tuesday, we will continue with season three, episode thirteen
of Lost, the Man from Tallahassee, about which I can
say nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay, but this is a big one. Huh.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Is it a lock flashback episode?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yes, it is the Man from Tallahassee.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I feel like i've heard this like this title is
you know this episode is. Yeah, it's sort of legendary.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well it leads to I'm more interested in the one
that follows a few on but it follows from this.
But anyway, less said the better. But yes, the man
from Tallahassee. Who could that be?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
We wonder?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Anyway, We'll see you back here tomorrow to discuss the
Gilded Age. Thank you for listening. You can find all
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