August 26, 2025 • 18 mins
Each Tuesday, we discuss an older entertainment property, and currently, that's Lost. In this episode, Ben's manipulative skills and Locke's sad-sackery and poor decisions were on full display. The result: A submarine blew up. Oops!
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 14, "Exposé." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 14, "Exposé." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Holeco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of August
twenty fifth, we are continuing with Lost Season three, episode thirteen,
The Man from Tallahassee. Who could that man be? We
wonder what man is? That? Not the man we would
(01:01):
like to see, but there is. Well, if we're gonna
see him, we'd like to see him in the shape
he was in at the end of the episode. Right
tied to a chair, beaten up, Yes, yes, freaking out,
but first, we have to go through a lot of
high school Kate or Juliette and Jack stuff, and we
have to go through is Jack gone over to the enemy,
(01:25):
and you know, is Jack going to leave us in
a submarine? Yes, if he possibly can, and just all
sorts of running around Otherville trying to figure things out
and plot things and you know, sort of the same
thing we've seen a million times, and we've seen this before,
(01:47):
but it's still it's somehow delicious every time it happens,
where Ben just manipulates somebody like he is a puppeteer
pulling strings. Yes, oh you say you're gonna blow up
the submarine? Oh no, no, that can possibly be and
he's going yes, yes, oh. Look. This episode asks the
(02:15):
question just how much more of a sad sack could
John Locke be that we already know, And the answer is, oh,
a whole bunch even more.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
We do finally find out how he became paralyzed, which is, yes,
if you're going to contract front your dad, man, do
it on the first floor.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, don't do it with your back to a window.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, you know, he's already killed somebody over this. Not
the brightest bulb is our John Lock.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I mean, have we ever established that this Anthony
Cooper whatever his name is, is actually his father?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Was wondering that too, because we seem to be accepting
it now. But I thought the whole thing was a con. Yeah,
like he I thought Susie Kurtz was a con and
the whole thing was just to get just to get
the kidney. Although how would he know that he's kidney matched?
Did they do testing?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't know. I expect the best way to know
that it match would be if it's from your kin.
But yeah, you know, I wonder if they were hedging
that at the beginning and now they've just decided to
go all in and not go back, and it just
just yeah, yeah, yeah, whoever he is is you know,
(03:43):
is he the baddest of the bad dads? There's worst
dads than him, right, I yeah, I think a dad
who's badness. We haven't gotten the full picture of maybe
the worst dad, but Anthony Cooper is right up there, Yeah,
far up. He is a terrible, terrible thing and yes,
a terrible person all around. I mean he just kind
(04:05):
of kind of casually kills this lady's kid. Yeah, Patrick J.
Adams from Sooth's nice to see.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It, wouldn't want to be a Yeah, but yeah, he's
a he's an all around reprehensible individual, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Mean he's just not he's a bad person and being
a bad dad is only part of his badness.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And really sort of maybe a lower level part of
his bad Yeah, done way worse things. Yeah, but it
appears that perhaps there we hope he is getting his
come up and spy being in some kind of a
storeroom but looking like he's a bit worse for wear
and actually looks freaked out and scared when he sees Lock.
(04:57):
So you know, yeah, enjoy that, sir richly deserved every news.
On the other foot, also, what what the bleep? How
does this happen?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, we get the whole We get quite the lead
up to this, since yes, the sort of cliffhanger reveal
at the end of the episode, but yeah, there's there's
so much leading up to it of been manipulating and
oh more additional flashbacks in case you forgot. Yes, the
(05:37):
story of John Locke and how he is bad at
decisions for one thing, for one thing out of many
issues that he has, Like he meets this Patrick J.
Adams kid. Yes, So instead of telling him or his
mother yes, he goes and confronts the dad and says,
(06:01):
you need to call this off, Like yes, Why.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Why would he think that was a good idea? What
what in his interaction with his dad would make him
think that that would change anything?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And why does he want his dad not to like
get arrested and go down? Why does he want to
talk him into just I mean he signed that kid's
death warrant basically by saying he's you Yeah, that's on him,
and yeah, that's what my husband was saying. Why doesn't
he just tell the kid, yes, he's a con man,
(06:36):
he's a terrible person. He stole my kidney. Here is
all the evidence. You need to put him away right
and get your mother?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, that that makes no sense because at this point
there's absolutely zero reason he should have any loyalty or
protectiveness of this man. Right. Why why? As has so
very often been the case in this show, we are
(07:08):
left to wonder, what is that guy thinking? Decision making
not a straing for.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Thinking is actually what is happening? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Does not think things through?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Like, I bet he's gonna have second thoughts about that submarine. Well,
I mean, I guess he does as soon as Ben
said ha ha, right, I mean Alex tried to warn him.
She said, He's just making you do something he wants
you to do. And John's like, yep, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Do it, going, watch me here, I go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh my goodness. Not not great, John, not great. It
is extremely creepy that Ben knows everything about everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and what is the deal with that? Right? And
I guess I may have gotten this from last Pedia,
but like, you know, the fact that Locke survived this
like eight story fall that he took is like relevant
to Ben's interests in him, of course.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right, you know? And how is he healed by the
by the island or whatever? And he Ben has to
recuperate like a like a civilian, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
A regular ordinary person.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
A regular person.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And why do he even get stick in the first place?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, exactly, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He doesn't presumably, well we don't know if he knows
about Rose, who says she's cured by being there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I think we can assume that Ben knows.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So yeah, he might be mad at her too, because
how come she got cured and he actually got cancer.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, exactly. So there's a lot going on. I did enjoy.
You know, Ben has an sob and a terrible person
and does bad things to people, but at the same
time he's hilarious. Yes, so you know, John asks where
do you get electricity? And he says, we have two
giant hams?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh that's a wonderful performance. Yes by Michael Emerson. Just
such a delightfully hateful character, as opposed to you know,
Anthony Cooper, who is just hateful.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, which just terrible.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, just awful. Well, let's see I'll sink in terms
of parenting tips here, yes, parenting tips. Can we lose
from this other than do not be like Anthony Cooper? Yeah,
he's a terrible person. And do not marry some rich
guy who just comes into your life and then your
son mysteriously dies. One thing you we could learn is
that not everyone wants to be rescued. You may think,
(10:04):
you know, here's a guy on this terrible island full
of weirdness, and he may be like, this is exactly
where I want to be. I don't want to go back,
I don't want to be rescued. I want to be
right here. I feel powerful here, right, So there may
be situations that look bad to you, but to your
child will for some somehow seem like a position of power. Right,
(10:29):
So you maybe want to analyze that a little bit.
On the other hand, be aware that even people who
are master manipulators, who control people effortlessly, have trouble with
their kids. Then's teenage daughter hates him. Yes, so you know,
don't think that because you can, you know you are
(10:52):
good at good with people, that you're going to be
able to control your child. Right, that's going to be
your one achilles he yep, always is.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think you know we have obviously I don't know
what's going to happen. But Danielle playing it cool. You know,
she she has basically confirmed Okay, that is my daughter.
She is here, she is alive. But she doesn't go
in guns blazing, like. No, she's smart enough to know
that there's many reasons why that is not going to
(11:28):
be effective.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So no, she just stands behind bushes and looks soulfully. Child.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Single tear trickles down her cheek, I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So. So the parenting tip here, maybe even if you
want to go in with guns blazing, sometimes laying low
and waiting for your time. Yeah, it is the best
way your moment to rescue your child. Yes, excellent job
of the casting department to find a young actress who
looks like that lady's daughter.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah that was. Yeah, they're definitely good.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Definitely look Yeah, but that she's just grown up in Otherville,
like hanging out with Carl and it's just been having
this like normal life, kind of like a fifty ish
life there in the houses. And for sure, you know,
Juliette probably bakes her muffins and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, but she somehow knows that, you know, things are
not this.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Is not normal, although living alone in the jungle with
Danielle also possibly not the best childhood.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, so yeah that is true.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I bet she doesn't make muffins. I bet there are
no muffins at Danielle's. So, you know, maybe she could
like get a shared custody arrangement of some.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Right, talk about whiplash going between Yeah, Danielle's life and Ben's.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, she's got some adventures ahead of her.
That chick, I don't know. I'm so sorry. You should
have just taken the submarine before it blew up. He
had gotten back out of there. But I don't know.
There's like a plot about I mean, the whole blowing
(13:15):
up the submarine thing. I guess is supposed to make
sense to Locke, but it just seems like such a contrivance. Yeah, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He was one hour away from getting off the island.
But we can't. We can't send Jack away. You knew
we wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should have known. Oh, well,
you send any of these supporting carrot Well, I don't
know who could they sent off? They could have sent
to Nikki and Pallow off in the submarine.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But next week we'll find out about that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Their time will come. But what what miss? They could
have sent a couple of miscellaneous castaways off, some of
those nameless people there still are, but not Jack. Jack
ain't getting out of there, right, No, that easy? And
how exactly is he going to bring back help? You know,
they're in the ocean somewhere, which ocean I have no idea.
(14:22):
It's an island, part of the globe.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It has some hills and some jungle and it's an island.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, we'll find it, yeah, yeah, in an ocean exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
How many.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's not that many of them. How hard could it be?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can't be that many islands?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Either case, dak is you know only so big, My dear, dear,
Did we have had we had any further previous indication
that Locke status from Tallahassee in this any previous mention
whatsoever of Tallahassee?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, yeah, because Kate went there. Oh remember she was
like buying a bus ticket to Tallahassee and that's when
the the marshall got her at at one. Okay, that's
the only mention I can recall.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, well, apparently Anthony Cooper is from there or that's
where he was when they picked him up. However that right,
however that occurred, I don't remember if we ever get
an explanation. Oh, and we disappeared in the box just
like Dan said, there's a bot and they just conjured
up give us the worst father of all time, and poof,
(15:42):
there he was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
There, he was. Oh my, well we got another look
at what's his face? Nest Carbonel Richard.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, yes, he played a roll smirking in the background there.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, didn't he didn't he fetch Juliet from somewhere
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, he's he's responsible for bringing people there. I guess, yeah,
though this, I mean he didn't did he bring him
on the submarine? I guess he must have brought him
on the submarine, but no more of that. Yeah, and
have to find another way to fetch people, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Or you're gonna have to get Said to build you
a new submarine. Maybe he could do that between Said
and Hurley. Hurley knows how to fix cars, and Said didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Be to build a sub very submarine didn't look that impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Science handy with Say, it's handy with technological things, So
get him on that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Which it's also possible there's a hangar somewhere there in
Otherville that has like three or four other submarines in.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It, so or airplanes or who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Did you think that was our only submarine? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I thought this was a pretty good episode, and it
gets into the mythology of Ben knowing absolutely everything and
being able to produce random family. He sets up a
lot of interesting things in your mind, and we're left
with this episode wanting to know what happens between Locke
and his dad, How did they get him there? What
is happening with this, and so I am happy to
(17:13):
inform you that next week we will get none of that.
We will just be seeing what happens to Nicki and Paolo,
two characters we could care less about.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, we careless, barely point out in a lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
However, just think about it in terms of after this
we can move on. Right. That unfortunate Nicki and Polo
thing we'll be over with. We can just bury it.
So next week we will continue with season three, episode
fourteen of Lost ex Pose, and we will see you
(17:48):
back here tomorrow to discuss the Gilded Age, on which
I think Richard Alberton may make a cameo. Thank you
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Holeco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of August
twenty fifth, we are continuing with Lost Season three, episode thirteen,
The Man from Tallahassee. Who could that man be? We
wonder what man is? That? Not the man we would
(01:01):
like to see, but there is. Well, if we're gonna
see him, we'd like to see him in the shape
he was in at the end of the episode. Right
tied to a chair, beaten up, Yes, yes, freaking out,
but first, we have to go through a lot of
high school Kate or Juliette and Jack stuff, and we
have to go through is Jack gone over to the enemy,
(01:25):
and you know, is Jack going to leave us in
a submarine? Yes, if he possibly can, and just all
sorts of running around Otherville trying to figure things out
and plot things and you know, sort of the same
thing we've seen a million times, and we've seen this before,
(01:47):
but it's still it's somehow delicious every time it happens,
where Ben just manipulates somebody like he is a puppeteer
pulling strings. Yes, oh you say you're gonna blow up
the submarine? Oh no, no, that can possibly be and
he's going yes, yes, oh. Look. This episode asks the
(02:15):
question just how much more of a sad sack could
John Locke be that we already know, And the answer is, oh,
a whole bunch even more.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
We do finally find out how he became paralyzed, which is, yes,
if you're going to contract front your dad, man, do
it on the first floor.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, don't do it with your back to a window.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, you know, he's already killed somebody over this. Not
the brightest bulb is our John Lock.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I mean, have we ever established that this Anthony
Cooper whatever his name is, is actually his father?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Was wondering that too, because we seem to be accepting
it now. But I thought the whole thing was a con. Yeah,
like he I thought Susie Kurtz was a con and
the whole thing was just to get just to get
the kidney. Although how would he know that he's kidney matched?
Did they do testing?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't know. I expect the best way to know
that it match would be if it's from your kin.
But yeah, you know, I wonder if they were hedging
that at the beginning and now they've just decided to
go all in and not go back, and it just
just yeah, yeah, yeah, whoever he is is you know,
(03:43):
is he the baddest of the bad dads? There's worst
dads than him, right, I yeah, I think a dad
who's badness. We haven't gotten the full picture of maybe
the worst dad, but Anthony Cooper is right up there, Yeah,
far up. He is a terrible, terrible thing and yes,
a terrible person all around. I mean he just kind
(04:05):
of kind of casually kills this lady's kid. Yeah, Patrick J.
Adams from Sooth's nice to see.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It, wouldn't want to be a Yeah, but yeah, he's
a he's an all around reprehensible individual, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Mean he's just not he's a bad person and being
a bad dad is only part of his badness.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And really sort of maybe a lower level part of
his bad Yeah, done way worse things. Yeah, but it
appears that perhaps there we hope he is getting his
come up and spy being in some kind of a
storeroom but looking like he's a bit worse for wear
and actually looks freaked out and scared when he sees Lock.
(04:57):
So you know, yeah, enjoy that, sir richly deserved every news.
On the other foot, also, what what the bleep? How
does this happen?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, we get the whole We get quite the lead
up to this, since yes, the sort of cliffhanger reveal
at the end of the episode, but yeah, there's there's
so much leading up to it of been manipulating and
oh more additional flashbacks in case you forgot. Yes, the
(05:37):
story of John Locke and how he is bad at
decisions for one thing, for one thing out of many
issues that he has, Like he meets this Patrick J.
Adams kid. Yes, So instead of telling him or his
mother yes, he goes and confronts the dad and says,
(06:01):
you need to call this off, Like yes, Why.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Why would he think that was a good idea? What
what in his interaction with his dad would make him
think that that would change anything?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And why does he want his dad not to like
get arrested and go down? Why does he want to
talk him into just I mean he signed that kid's
death warrant basically by saying he's you Yeah, that's on him,
and yeah, that's what my husband was saying. Why doesn't
he just tell the kid, yes, he's a con man,
(06:36):
he's a terrible person. He stole my kidney. Here is
all the evidence. You need to put him away right
and get your mother?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, that that makes no sense because at this point
there's absolutely zero reason he should have any loyalty or
protectiveness of this man. Right. Why why? As has so
very often been the case in this show, we are
(07:08):
left to wonder, what is that guy thinking? Decision making
not a straing for.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Thinking is actually what is happening? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Does not think things through?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Like, I bet he's gonna have second thoughts about that submarine. Well,
I mean, I guess he does as soon as Ben
said ha ha, right, I mean Alex tried to warn him.
She said, He's just making you do something he wants
you to do. And John's like, yep, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Do it, going, watch me here, I go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh my goodness. Not not great, John, not great. It
is extremely creepy that Ben knows everything about everybody.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, and what is the deal with that? Right? And
I guess I may have gotten this from last Pedia,
but like, you know, the fact that Locke survived this
like eight story fall that he took is like relevant
to Ben's interests in him, of course.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right, you know? And how is he healed by the
by the island or whatever? And he Ben has to
recuperate like a like a civilian, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
A regular ordinary person.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
A regular person.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And why do he even get stick in the first place?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yes, exactly, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He doesn't presumably, well we don't know if he knows
about Rose, who says she's cured by being there.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I think we can assume that Ben knows.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So yeah, he might be mad at her too, because
how come she got cured and he actually got cancer.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, exactly. So there's a lot going on. I did enjoy.
You know, Ben has an sob and a terrible person
and does bad things to people, but at the same
time he's hilarious. Yes, so you know, John asks where
do you get electricity? And he says, we have two
giant hams?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh that's a wonderful performance. Yes by Michael Emerson. Just
such a delightfully hateful character, as opposed to you know,
Anthony Cooper, who is just hateful.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, which just terrible.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, just awful. Well, let's see I'll sink in terms
of parenting tips here, yes, parenting tips. Can we lose
from this other than do not be like Anthony Cooper? Yeah,
he's a terrible person. And do not marry some rich
guy who just comes into your life and then your
son mysteriously dies. One thing you we could learn is
that not everyone wants to be rescued. You may think,
(10:04):
you know, here's a guy on this terrible island full
of weirdness, and he may be like, this is exactly
where I want to be. I don't want to go back,
I don't want to be rescued. I want to be
right here. I feel powerful here, right, So there may
be situations that look bad to you, but to your
child will for some somehow seem like a position of power. Right,
(10:29):
So you maybe want to analyze that a little bit.
On the other hand, be aware that even people who
are master manipulators, who control people effortlessly, have trouble with
their kids. Then's teenage daughter hates him. Yes, so you know,
don't think that because you can, you know you are
(10:52):
good at good with people, that you're going to be
able to control your child. Right, that's going to be
your one achilles he yep, always is.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I think you know we have obviously I don't know
what's going to happen. But Danielle playing it cool. You know,
she she has basically confirmed Okay, that is my daughter.
She is here, she is alive. But she doesn't go
in guns blazing, like. No, she's smart enough to know
that there's many reasons why that is not going to
(11:28):
be effective.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So no, she just stands behind bushes and looks soulfully. Child.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Single tear trickles down her cheek, I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So. So the parenting tip here, maybe even if you
want to go in with guns blazing, sometimes laying low
and waiting for your time. Yeah, it is the best
way your moment to rescue your child. Yes, excellent job
of the casting department to find a young actress who
looks like that lady's daughter.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah that was. Yeah, they're definitely good.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Definitely look Yeah, but that she's just grown up in Otherville,
like hanging out with Carl and it's just been having
this like normal life, kind of like a fifty ish
life there in the houses. And for sure, you know,
Juliette probably bakes her muffins and.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, but she somehow knows that, you know, things are
not this.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Is not normal, although living alone in the jungle with
Danielle also possibly not the best childhood.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yes, so yeah that is true.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I bet she doesn't make muffins. I bet there are
no muffins at Danielle's. So, you know, maybe she could
like get a shared custody arrangement of some.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Right, talk about whiplash going between Yeah, Danielle's life and Ben's.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, she's got some adventures ahead of her.
That chick, I don't know. I'm so sorry. You should
have just taken the submarine before it blew up. He
had gotten back out of there. But I don't know.
There's like a plot about I mean, the whole blowing
(13:15):
up the submarine thing. I guess is supposed to make
sense to Locke, but it just seems like such a contrivance. Yeah, yeah, nobody.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He was one hour away from getting off the island.
But we can't. We can't send Jack away. You knew
we wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should have known. Oh, well,
you send any of these supporting carrot Well, I don't
know who could they sent off? They could have sent
to Nikki and Pallow off in the submarine.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But next week we'll find out about that.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Their time will come. But what what miss? They could
have sent a couple of miscellaneous castaways off, some of
those nameless people there still are, but not Jack. Jack
ain't getting out of there, right, No, that easy? And
how exactly is he going to bring back help? You know,
they're in the ocean somewhere, which ocean I have no idea.
(14:22):
It's an island, part of the globe.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It has some hills and some jungle and it's an island.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, we'll find it, yeah, yeah, in an ocean exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
How many.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There's not that many of them. How hard could it be?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can't be that many islands?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Either case, dak is you know only so big, My dear, dear,
Did we have had we had any further previous indication
that Locke status from Tallahassee in this any previous mention
whatsoever of Tallahassee?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well, yeah, because Kate went there. Oh remember she was
like buying a bus ticket to Tallahassee and that's when
the the marshall got her at at one. Okay, that's
the only mention I can recall.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Oh, well, apparently Anthony Cooper is from there or that's
where he was when they picked him up. However that right,
however that occurred, I don't remember if we ever get
an explanation. Oh, and we disappeared in the box just
like Dan said, there's a bot and they just conjured
up give us the worst father of all time, and poof,
(15:42):
there he was.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
There, he was. Oh my, well we got another look
at what's his face? Nest Carbonel Richard.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes, yes, he played a roll smirking in the background there.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, didn't he didn't he fetch Juliet from somewhere
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, he's he's responsible for bringing people there. I guess, yeah,
though this, I mean he didn't did he bring him
on the submarine? I guess he must have brought him
on the submarine, but no more of that. Yeah, and
have to find another way to fetch people, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Or you're gonna have to get Said to build you
a new submarine. Maybe he could do that between Said
and Hurley. Hurley knows how to fix cars, and Said didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Be to build a sub very submarine didn't look that impressive.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Science handy with Say, it's handy with technological things, So
get him on that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Which it's also possible there's a hangar somewhere there in
Otherville that has like three or four other submarines in.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It, so or airplanes or who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Did you think that was our only submarine? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I thought this was a pretty good episode, and it
gets into the mythology of Ben knowing absolutely everything and
being able to produce random family. He sets up a
lot of interesting things in your mind, and we're left
with this episode wanting to know what happens between Locke
and his dad, How did they get him there? What
is happening with this, and so I am happy to
(17:13):
inform you that next week we will get none of that.
We will just be seeing what happens to Nicki and Paolo,
two characters we could care less about.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, we careless, barely point out in a lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
However, just think about it in terms of after this
we can move on. Right. That unfortunate Nicki and Polo
thing we'll be over with. We can just bury it.
So next week we will continue with season three, episode
fourteen of Lost ex Pose, and we will see you
(17:48):
back here tomorrow to discuss the Gilded Age, on which
I think Richard Alberton may make a cameo. Thank you
for listening. You can find all our episodes on Spreaker,
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