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September 2, 2025 15 mins
Each Tuesday, we discuss an older entertainment property, and currently, that's Lost. In this entirely pointless episode, we got the backstory (and the current story) of Nikki and Paulo, two characters we only met a few weeks ago and don't care about in the slightest. Watching it was an exercise in practicing patience, as parents have to do a lot.

Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 15, "Left Behind." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of September, first,
we're continuing with Lost season three, episode fourteen x pose,
or as I called it, about fifty five times during
the course of the episode, this is so dumb. It's

(01:02):
just dumb. Did you find it just dumb? Catherine? This
is what happened to have more episodes in a season
than you have story. Yeah, what I've read about it,
I Unlost Pedia and elsewhere the creators enjoyed this quite
a bit, and I'm sure they did. It was fun
to put together because they like retrofit Nikki and Paulo

(01:25):
into scenes we've seen before. And oh and Shannon and
Boo were doing this. They've over done this, and when
this was happening, they were over here, and let's just
splice them into this scene. I can see on paper
the fun of it. In actual practice, I really wanted

(01:47):
to be over Can they just die already? Please? Can
we bury them alive? Please? Can we just do it now?
Hit one of them with a shovel. We can get
it over with. But you coming to it for the
first time not knowing how it was going to end,
although I've generously hinted it spoiler wise in the upcoming
Do you mean.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
The part where they were actually alive?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well they were, well that yet well they died at
the end. But yes, they were actually alive, and then
they weren't because they were buried alive.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I just like, what a
waste of time.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I mean, it really was.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
We had to meet them, we had to meet them
a few weeks ago, only to just kill them off. Now,
Like it seriously just No, we didn't need any of
this at all.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
We did not, and especially where they left off last
week with Lockstead somehow being in a room in Otherville.
What yeah, what is this? How did this happen? What's
going to happen now? But first let's see these two
losers leap around and find out?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, yeah, just just real. I mean the only parts
that were entertaining were like Sawyer's reaction and involvement with
the whole thing, Like with the way he kept on being.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like who are you? Who are these people? What are
their names?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't know who you're talking about? Like that. The
little runner throughout was entertaining to me.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, it was, I mean I can see entertaining aspects
of it, but it's not what I wanted at this
point in a lost season, you know. The second time through. Yeah,
it's just well, you know, I'm glad they got themselves

(03:54):
a good laugh and we found out what I know,
we were all wondering what was Paula doing in the
bathroom that time when they were in the hatch one.
Now we know he wasn't just using the facilities. He
was using the facilities. And then the thing where Julian

(04:14):
and this little little dialogue. This is beneath you guys.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. Also, why were they carrying around the like Matreshka doll?
Like just have the diamonds in the little tiny pouch.
You don't need to carry around this like eight inch tall, yeah,
nesting doll and all like several nests, you know, like

(04:43):
maybe keep one, I guess, but you didn't need to
keep it all kill in the way that the.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Guy had it in his safe Like what Yeah, that
was weird to me too.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I totally missed that there was even such a
thing as a Matreshka doll there until at the end
when she was rushing it. But also the gum, which
is apparently the big reveal to her. I completely missed
anything about the gum. My husband had to explain it
to me. But how long was this gum in a

(05:15):
suitcase that was underwater? How? I mean, pretty good, it's
wrapped in foil and it's yes, but you can't put
that in water for a month and it's still Okay,
what the heck did they I mean, if they could
have had it in a waterproof pouch, but why would

(05:35):
you put things in a waterproof pouch You're not expecting
to crash into the ocean. It's just dumb. It's dumb.
Have I mentioned it's dumb? I thought it was pretty dumb.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Hm, extremely dumb.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I agree. Very Let's spend an hour of precious story
time on people we don't care about and are never
going to think of it again. Right, we could we
get some parenting lessons out of it. I wonder watch
out if your kid is super interested in bugs.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Learn about Romeo and Juliet as a cautionary tale, right,
because this is exactly what happened in Romeo and j.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, they dosed each other or one do.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Mostly did poison, and it ended badly as it has
ended badly here.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
You would think that that Nikki being an actress, yeah,
would you know expect that? And also, I mean Arst
did specifically tell her and a whole bunch of other
spiders will come if there's a female spider. Yep, yep,

(06:57):
she walked right into that quite literally. Maybe a lesson
is that some people just aren't trustworthy. You know, you
can't just go trust in anybody, even if you kind
of love them. You can't go trusting them because people
will betray you. This is something for parents as they

(07:17):
go out into the world trying to protect their children.
You can't trust people. Something I learned in my years
advocating for special education. You can't trust people. Some people
are just not trustworthy. They're going to take those accommodations
they promised you and tuck them away someplace where you
can't find them. Even if you put spiders on the table,

(07:39):
they still aren't going to give them up. Am I
scarred by my past experiences? Maybe? So? Another one another
parenting tip here maybe is sometimes you just have to
sit through dumb stories. You know, the kid hops on
the couch and says I did this, and then I
did that, and then this other thing, the other thing,

(08:00):
and you know, it's ridiculous and it's you know, and
you don't care, and it's dumb. But you have to
just sit there going uh huh uh huh. Wow, that
was some story. Yeah, you're gonna watch you, honey. Maybe
a child psychiatrist for you with the burying, burying people alive.

(08:22):
But still, you know, sometimes stories don't have a point,
They just somebody just needs to fill some time. Yep.
So parents, it's your job to sit there and pretend
like you're interested and that any of this makes sense, right,

(08:42):
But now I can go back to remembering Rodrigo Centoro
only as Laura Lennie's doomed love interest from actually and
not as Palo y Pallo can fade away under the
island sand. You know, they are going to be dead

(09:03):
and buried and no one is ever going to mention them.
I can yeah, I don't know. Maybe they will. I
can't remember if they're never mentioned. But you know, it's
not like benis somewhere going Wait a minute, I needed
that my master plan.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Then he would find some way and they can't pollow.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
They had diamonds for me. I was going to use
those diamonds. What where are they? Where did you bury them?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
They're just buried in sand, Like I feel like this is.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Wit More said, wait a minute, No, I hired them
to come out there and find intelligence. What did they say? Nope, nop,
just they gone and also forgot. We know, yeah, gone
and forgottenuntil the next time you watch the entire run
of Lost and say, oh, yeah, those guys, they're not

(09:50):
going to be around for long.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
In retrospect, we could have probably.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Skipped it, you know, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it
was it was not on fun in places, but just
completely pointless, and you wonder if the cast was going,
was getting having fun revisiting scenes. If they did, I

(10:16):
don't know if they just spliced these people into scenes
or yeah. I think they used outtakes of some scenes. Yeah,
so they you know, people who are long off the
show got their face back on film. But I don't
think they were necessary. They were there, but there must
have been a little bit of new dialogue with people
saying stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And yeah, and that light day for everybody.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
That scene of Ben and Juliet where you get to like, oh,
like again.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
With this, like I need them to come to me,
like who cares? I mean, I don't under Yeah, I
know that.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Julia was really snarky in that scene and I kind
of done. Yeah, but that's not who we've seen her
be really too much no with as we have seen
hardy snarky with Ben, but she was particularly just it
just had the look of something like on a skit
show that they would be showing up on doing a

(11:14):
little Lost stick and then sneaking off right Saturday Night
Live has something and there's a scene from Lost randomly here. Yeah,
we did get the Charlie confessed to Oh to Son,
Yes that he was he was the one who fake
kidnapped her. Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
And this is this is parenting related in terms of
like kids, you're not going to get away with it,
like and parents, both kids and parents, like secrets like
that will always come out, you know, like you can't
hide that from your kid, You can't hide it from.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Your parent, like, No, you are stuck with it. This
is gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Even if it doesn't come out just naturally. You're gonna
want it. You're gonna want to tell at some point,
You're gonna need to clear the air, right, And and
you cannot assume that the other person will say, well,
thanks so much for telling me. That was very nice
and right, excellent, No hard feelings, No that I did

(12:26):
enjoy that she was. She wasn't gonna tell gin because
then they would need to take another grave. Yes, some
good comedy in this one, I guess you could say.
But yeah, you know, I would rather just spend my
time having humorous outtakes of our castaways than this whole

(12:47):
Nikki and Polloll weird bleep. But there it is anyway,
whether we want it or not, because we are not
in charge of the show, so it's done though, it's over.
We can dispatch this quickly. That we've all excellent, So
next week, moving right along.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yes, please please.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Don't imagine them. Yeah, they're terrible fate. But next week,
so we are. We are never just going back to
this for a moment. We Yes, that's it, Like they're
not going to claw their way out of there. They're No, No,
I believe this is it. As far as I remember,

(13:29):
they are never mentioned again. Possibly that's wrong, Possibly there's
an a side somewhere along the way. But no, they
do not turn up twenty episodes from now that they
dug themselves up and went and lived in a cave
and then they're going to make problems. No, that is
not I don't believe that was the case. This was
just a little ah. Yeah, So like once again these

(13:50):
two losers, they deserved it. Yeah, I guess why? Why
just to make us wait to find out what the
beleep about? Bringing random family members right over? Well, next Tuesday, okay,
we will continue with season three, episode fifteen of Lost
Left Behind, And that does not refer to Nicky and

(14:12):
Pollo in their unfortunate graves. Who is this a flashback
for I should.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Have looked Kate. Maybe, Oh God, is it Kat again?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Someone just take her entire backstory and marry it a
lot ah Season three left Behind? Okay, yes, left behind,
which is a Kate flashback episode. Then again, maybe we
could use some were story and follow Kate. Kate was

(14:43):
not involved in any of this. Was Kate doing let's
look bad? Let's find out? Is she left behind because
Jack and Juliet are getting it on? Is she left
behind because something else in her terrible, terrible past. I'm
sure probably a little bit of both. Hope we care
about it more than we cared about Nikki and Paulo.

(15:06):
And we will see you back here tomorrow to discuss
the guilded age where nobody is buried alive, although there's
a few we might be totally cool with. Thank you
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(15:27):
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