July 29, 2025 • 22 mins
Each Tuesday, we discuss an older entertainment property, and currently, that's Lost. This episode, we learn from Lostpedia, is considered one of the worst of the series, and was inspired by actor Matthew Fox's own tattoos. The creators admitted that this was because they were "desperate for flashback stories." We could tell. But we did manage to wring some parenting advice out of it!
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 10, "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
This episode was recorded before a live studio audience ... of dogs.
Next Tuesday, we'll continue with season 3, episode 10, "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead." Tomorrow, we'll continue our discussion of a newer show, The Gilded Age.
This episode was recorded before a live studio audience ... of dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of July
twenty eighth, we're continuing with Lost season three, episode nine,
Stranger in a Strange Land. And just to kick off
our discussion, I would like to read a paragraph from
Lost Peace about this episode says this was one of
(01:05):
the series' most poorly received episodes. The native fan reaction
even prompted ABC to let the producers set the shows
and date, And holy cow, is that an accurate description.
I actually thought that the end date had come after
the Nicky and Pallo episode a few further on here expose.
(01:28):
But no, apparently it was the one about Jack's tattoos.
They'd gotten to the point where, oh frak, we need
another flashback. He's got tattoos? What up with his tattoos?
That's a flashback? Well, I low, my goodness, you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The discussions with the creators and uh huh, there's one
part it said, where is it the fact there was
a bad casting decision made, there was a bad pre
misdecision made, there was a bad flashbackstory. Just everything that
(02:04):
could go wrong did. But I don't think it was
because the script was terrible. Else here it is we
used Matthew Fox's real tattoos. That's how desperate we were
for flashbackstories.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You think, oh, oh my goodness, really, you guys. And
it's like coming after what I think was a really
strong episode with Desmond, where they showed sort of the
creativity they can do and the excitement that they could
put into these storylines and the dread and the creepiness
(02:43):
and the feeling of something larger going on here, and
then we have this episode, which could not have been
more kurthunk.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean starting with the title like stranger in a
strange land, like guys, I mean, I mean people live there.
It's not it's not strange like the island. It's just
a different country that you're not familiar with, you know, Like, oh.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But he is he is not one of them?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
What was the thing that he's he's he walks about,
but he is not one of us?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, that is it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That is it? Gross?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Just then Yeah, and once again we have the whole
is this thing that they're setting up Jack for really
Juliette going against orders or is it made to look
that way so that they can get Jack to do
(03:45):
what they want? It seems entirely credible that it's all
an act. Yeah, because it's worked before, and so why would.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, manipulation being a strong suit of he's not been company.
And we get another new evil person Isabelle.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's right, boy, they they turned up the evil dial
way up on her. I don't remember her, but she
doesn't seem like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, and she also reminds me a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That she doesn't bake muffins.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
No, but she reminded me of finla Flann again from
last week. Yeah, Like, I was really wondering if it
was supposed to be her at a different.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Time, but I don't think the name was different.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know it was different, and also the timing wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, but the one is eloise. Yeah, well, don't worry
about timing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's not as silent and you can count on it anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They can, they can pressto change oh the time with
oh you know there was a time job seriously, but yeah,
I don't remember her at all. I meant to look
her up on Lost p D after I watched it,
but I didn't. But she yeah, they her direction was
very clear to be somebody that you don't want to marry,
(05:09):
whereas Tom friendly was actually kind of friendly in this one.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yes, and then there was the whole like listing of
the others crimes that happened. Yeah, he wasn't wrong about that.
I mean, Jack can be dense and has done some
bad things, but also.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So yeah right, well but then he sees some of
the people they kidnapped and is sort of rude to them. Yes, yes,
although the little girl would have to say, well, well
dead honey. Yeah, yeah, well that didn't go so well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean, I guess he can he can see or
he believes that they've been thoroughly brainwashed, which seems to
be the case.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Maybe so, but lots of weirdness going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
They were in that room with the just with Carl
where their eyes were.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Forced to Carl. Girl's been laying in his backyard with
Alex looking at the stars, just like it, you know,
Mayberry RFD here.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know what happened downstairs, but there's been some.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Activity apparently, so, yes, some others breached the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Maybe they're just trying to warn us. Yeah, asking once again,
we are asking where's Vincent?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes, yes, absolutely, if they could have just had him
wander up with all the other people who were kidnapped,
Vincent could just be with them. You know, I'm gonna
swam across that. It's not that he's had a lot
of time on his hands.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Sure, But we did get a little bit of Kate
and Sawyer in this episode. It seemed like, maybe, you know,
I already knew that it was going to be a
Jack episode, but like you know, you start out with
them in the in the boat, and right, well, it
(07:26):
is about Jack. Because Kate's like, well.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We have to go back, we have to go back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So there's like litter away those words. Listen, girlfriend, we
are not going yea, there no way.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But he does encourage Carl to go back, which is
probably do we think Carl has it in him? I
don't know. I think I think Carl is maybe made
of the same stuff as Billy.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What's his left?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Ye the Gilded Age who you know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Takes one look at George and is like, you're not
worth it, Gladys.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Sorry, it's right, that's right. Carl's got the potential of
being murdered, which I don't think Billy had risk. But
it's still at the same time, you know, daughter of
a powerful dad. Do you really want to go? You
really want to go? There are there other girls around?
Surely there are other girls around. Yes, wait a little while,
(08:23):
that blondle from the plane will grow up and you
can can go from Hi. But Alex seems quite ticked
off by the whole thing, so took her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Whether it's on an island or in the Gilded Age, girls,
you know you have to find find guys made a
sterner stuff if you want to go up against the
go up against your dad. Although maybe Carl's going back,
so we'll see if he can make it back by himself,
(09:04):
if he can take the boat, I guess I'll take
the boat.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But then it turns out they they're gonna they all
leave that island anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So that's right to the place that they call. So
there's a place on the main island that they usually are.
They were just for this endeavor on prison Island. Where's
the place with all the little houses and the muffins
in the book that where they're going back to where
they're going I guess so this was the place with
(09:36):
the cages in the yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In the underwater operating theater, right, sure.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Alrighty then sure sure.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Don't ask this show to make sense, Terry.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How much did they spend on sets for this thing? Man?
And you know they did the the switcheroo where you
see Jack walking on the beach but it's in Thailand.
Gotcha made you light?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And that little boy who's selling him soda.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, and then runs from him later on, but he's marked.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
He's marked well.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And parenting tip. You know, I'm not going to say
tell your kid never to get a tattoo, but find
a reputable dealer and make sure you know what that
individual is putting on you, and make sure it won't
get you beaten up on the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Bench, Like maybe don't do have them do it? Force
them to Yes, maybe not that tattoo to your body, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Just because you hate yourself that much. Just get me
in as much trouble as possible, will you please? I
feel like.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Getting pad beaten up.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yep, that's about where he is at that point. But
do we know did he ever mention going there in
a previous episode, like I'm done with this, I'm going
to Thailand, Or are we just supposed to think he
had some vacation time at the hospital, or that we're
supposed to think this is him hitting bottom, or just yeah,
(11:31):
don't ask questions, Terry, it's lost.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's a question. I don't recall this being addressed before
in the Jack timeline.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I mean, did he hear that his ex wife was
going on a honeymoon to Thailand and so he followed her?
There is his dad there someplace? Or is he just
I'm going to go to the ends of the earth.
And I put my finger down on a globe and
here I am.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's still very messed up individual then and now and
always probably. You know, one thing we learn here parenting
tip wise is teach your child how to fly a kite.
Teach them young, help them to know how to do
it so that they're not on a beach and some
(12:25):
trouble young woman who will be trouble comes up and
helps him. And you know what, just it's a shouldn't
be too hard. You know, Jack's dad didn't teach him.
Add that to the list of things you know, you
you say. Charles Woodmore got another check in the evil
column last week. That's another check in the Jack's dad
(12:45):
evil column. Didn't teach his son to fly a kite.
Too busy with his doctor and stuff, Too busy saving
people's lives to teach his child to fly a kit
No wonder Jack is such a mess. I bet you
a sawyer never had his dad teach him to fly akite.
(13:08):
Probably locks dad definitely didn't teach him. Maybe out a window,
but not Charlie's. Yes See, that's the problem. If all
the people on this island had had their dad teach
them how to fly a kite, how much happier being here,
wouldn't be here. Nope, nope, nope. I bet every time
(13:30):
we meet somebody's dad, we're going to have to ask ourselves.
Did he teach his son how to fly a kite
or his daughter how to fly a kite? I bet
it's no all around so lost doing a service demonstrating
the essential activity teaching your kid. Have you ever flew
Have you ever flew a kite gathered? You know, not
(13:51):
a fly kite?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I mean, I don't feel like it's that hard. Yes,
he also was having trouble just assembling the kite in
the first that's true, and he needed help from high
heels on the beach girl.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, to do it right there. You know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah. I was like, oh, still feels like a scam.
The minute she showed up, I was like, he no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh well yeah, my husband could not understand why he
had anything to do with her, and you know, basically
the entire episode, but that in specific, so just because
the script says right here in the script, yeah, yeah,
So I think I've flown a kite, but I don't.
(14:44):
I think I think the flight the kites I have
flown did not require assembly. I think you just kind
of held them up and or your dad did. No,
my dad was not a running with a kite kind
of guy. He was older than that. But somebody must
have done it, yeah, because it would you know. I'm
(15:07):
not on an island someplace. My life is not a tragic,
tragic mess. So somewhere someone in my past must have
flown a kite with me. Yeah. And another parenting tip,
be careful with who gives your kids pep talks. You know,
if you're gonna, if you're gonna send uncle Sawyer to
(15:29):
go talk to the kid, go over a few points
ahead of time to make sure that they're gonna tell
your kid to do the right thing and not give
bad advice and not make fun of them and give
them nickboks. So maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Although it's it's kind of, you know, a rite of
passage to get a nickname from Sawyer.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So that is true. I think you had gotten several,
probably in the canoe, though I think it called him
many things. Oh my, So we had another round of
the Ben is gonna die again unless we get Jack
to work on him again. What are we gonna do again?
(16:18):
So Ethan was their surgeon? Is that what Ben said? Yes,
we had an excellent surgeon. His name was Ethan. That
guy was a surgeon. Would you let that guy cut
into you? I don't think so. Thanks, I'm sorry, you're
just too creepy. Do you have any other doctors? Maybe
I could just die and'd be okay. But if you
only have one surgeon, why are you sending him out
(16:41):
on stupid miss?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Right? Yeah, they sent him.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Why would you not keep him close to home?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well fed and happy. I guess he was capturing Claire.
But still you have the thugs for that, You have
Tom and the other.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You had Danny, who you don't have anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Right, right, you had a variety of expendable persons to
go out and do that. Why are you sending each
good question? Keep him, keep him close to home, give
him a cage, you know, don't let him go. These
people aren't thinking things through and oh so much so
(17:21):
much storytelling going all over the place, never to be
seen again. So what somebody said to Jack that he
is a great leader, which makes him lonely, frightened and angry. Well, yeah,
he's all those.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know? Does that mean, like you know, as a parent,
you're supposed to be a leader. So yeah, I mean,
if we're a good parent, we're lonely and agree.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Or is that just Jet?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I hope it's just Jack.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I hope it's just although you know, when you're a
leader and you have to make the decisions, can be
kind of lonely frightened. I think parents are frightened the
fair amount of the time. What if this thing I've
done doesn't work? What if this thing I'd done worse? Yes,
too well or not in the way I expected to?
(18:13):
And why want everybody just do what I say? So
there's lonely frightened to day. Yeah, it's the mark of
a leader. But I ain't going to get a tattooed
on my arm. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, especially not
some weird tattoo that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, it was like a brand and yeah it's like
a you know, a hot thing on a stick.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And what the heck did they do to Juliette's back? Yeah, yeah,
it looks it seemed to me she wouldn't have been
able to crouch down.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like she did, yeah, to get the aloe.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah if they had if because it looked like a
burn or something.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, it looked like a brand also, so.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That made me wonder if it was fake. But at
any rate, she's just has a high tolerance for pain.
She's as a strong girl. And I can't remember, honestly
what the deal is with her, but I just feel
like every time she's in peril and they use that
to get Jack to do something, it's a setup, right,
(19:19):
and the way that he falls for it absolutely every
time without fail, you know, must bring them a great
deal of pleasure. Juliette anyway, Yeah, they'll do it to
save me. It'll be fine. I bunch of messed up
(19:40):
people here, for sure, that's not in this case. Kind
of boring people do. But the issue with the setting
an ending date for this series was that as long
as they didn't know how many more or less how
many episodes they had to tell their story with, they
had to keep vamping, and season three was heavy on that.
(20:03):
And so once they had a end date, then they
could plan their story out on the number of episodes
that they had and theoretically make it tighter. Not that
they didn't go on plot safari from time to time,
but you know, and I think that there were probably
(20:24):
if when this one aired they said, oh yeah, stop
doing this stuff. There were still some things in the
pipeline that hadn't been shown yet see xpas coming in
a few episodes. But yeah, this one, they did not
cover themselves with more Jack's tattoos. Yeah, nothing else to
(20:51):
talk about. We're down to the tattoos. We're sure you've
all seen the tattoos and wondered. I have seen the tattoos,
but I wonder what we get next week. See next Tuesday,
we will continue with a season three episode ten of Lost,
(21:13):
Tricia Tanaka is Dead, which is a Hurly episode that
I remember being kind of a hoot. I hope I
remembering correct, Okay, but you know Hurly early. It's a
good time.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So yeah, except they don't like hope.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I just remember this being maybe it's just because
it came after Strange Land and was like, oh, thank goodness,
is better. It does not have to do with Jack's tattoos.
Yeah who, but yeah, I remember it's being kind of fun.
So we will see you next week to watch that,
and we'll see you back here tomorrow to discuss the
(21:53):
Gilded Age where nobody is getting weird tattoos. But I
would like to tie down Aurora's husband and maybe mark
him as a weasome way, maybe with weasels branded across
his forehead will.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Be okay, I think Agnes will join you.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
an older entertainment property, And for this week of July
twenty eighth, we're continuing with Lost season three, episode nine,
Stranger in a Strange Land. And just to kick off
our discussion, I would like to read a paragraph from
Lost Peace about this episode says this was one of
(01:05):
the series' most poorly received episodes. The native fan reaction
even prompted ABC to let the producers set the shows
and date, And holy cow, is that an accurate description.
I actually thought that the end date had come after
the Nicky and Pallo episode a few further on here expose.
(01:28):
But no, apparently it was the one about Jack's tattoos.
They'd gotten to the point where, oh frak, we need
another flashback. He's got tattoos? What up with his tattoos?
That's a flashback? Well, I low, my goodness, you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The discussions with the creators and uh huh, there's one
part it said, where is it the fact there was
a bad casting decision made, there was a bad pre
misdecision made, there was a bad flashbackstory. Just everything that
(02:04):
could go wrong did. But I don't think it was
because the script was terrible. Else here it is we
used Matthew Fox's real tattoos. That's how desperate we were
for flashbackstories.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You think, oh, oh my goodness, really, you guys. And
it's like coming after what I think was a really
strong episode with Desmond, where they showed sort of the
creativity they can do and the excitement that they could
put into these storylines and the dread and the creepiness
(02:43):
and the feeling of something larger going on here, and
then we have this episode, which could not have been
more kurthunk.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean starting with the title like stranger in a
strange land, like guys, I mean, I mean people live there.
It's not it's not strange like the island. It's just
a different country that you're not familiar with, you know, Like, oh.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But he is he is not one of them?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
What was the thing that he's he's he walks about,
but he is not one of us?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, that is it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That is it? Gross?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Just then Yeah, and once again we have the whole
is this thing that they're setting up Jack for really
Juliette going against orders or is it made to look
that way so that they can get Jack to do
(03:45):
what they want? It seems entirely credible that it's all
an act. Yeah, because it's worked before, and so why would.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, manipulation being a strong suit of he's not been company.
And we get another new evil person Isabelle.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's right, boy, they they turned up the evil dial
way up on her. I don't remember her, but she
doesn't seem like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, and she also reminds me a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That she doesn't bake muffins.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
No, but she reminded me of finla Flann again from
last week. Yeah, Like, I was really wondering if it
was supposed to be her at a different.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Time, but I don't think the name was different.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know it was different, and also the timing wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, but the one is eloise. Yeah, well, don't worry
about timing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's not as silent and you can count on it anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They can, they can pressto change oh the time with
oh you know there was a time job seriously, but yeah,
I don't remember her at all. I meant to look
her up on Lost p D after I watched it,
but I didn't. But she yeah, they her direction was
very clear to be somebody that you don't want to marry,
(05:09):
whereas Tom friendly was actually kind of friendly in this one.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yes, and then there was the whole like listing of
the others crimes that happened. Yeah, he wasn't wrong about that.
I mean, Jack can be dense and has done some
bad things, but also.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So yeah right, well but then he sees some of
the people they kidnapped and is sort of rude to them. Yes, yes,
although the little girl would have to say, well, well
dead honey. Yeah, yeah, well that didn't go so well.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean, I guess he can he can see or
he believes that they've been thoroughly brainwashed, which seems to
be the case.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Maybe so, but lots of weirdness going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
They were in that room with the just with Carl
where their eyes were.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Forced to Carl. Girl's been laying in his backyard with
Alex looking at the stars, just like it, you know,
Mayberry RFD here.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know what happened downstairs, but there's been some.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Activity apparently, so, yes, some others breached the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Maybe they're just trying to warn us. Yeah, asking once again,
we are asking where's Vincent?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes, yes, absolutely, if they could have just had him
wander up with all the other people who were kidnapped,
Vincent could just be with them. You know, I'm gonna
swam across that. It's not that he's had a lot
of time on his hands.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Sure, But we did get a little bit of Kate
and Sawyer in this episode. It seemed like, maybe, you know,
I already knew that it was going to be a
Jack episode, but like you know, you start out with
them in the in the boat, and right, well, it
(07:26):
is about Jack. Because Kate's like, well.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
We have to go back, we have to go back.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So there's like litter away those words. Listen, girlfriend, we
are not going yea, there no way.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But he does encourage Carl to go back, which is
probably do we think Carl has it in him? I
don't know. I think I think Carl is maybe made
of the same stuff as Billy.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What's his left?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Ye the Gilded Age who you know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Takes one look at George and is like, you're not
worth it, Gladys.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Sorry, it's right, that's right. Carl's got the potential of
being murdered, which I don't think Billy had risk. But
it's still at the same time, you know, daughter of
a powerful dad. Do you really want to go? You
really want to go? There are there other girls around?
Surely there are other girls around. Yes, wait a little while,
(08:23):
that blondle from the plane will grow up and you
can can go from Hi. But Alex seems quite ticked
off by the whole thing, so took her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Whether it's on an island or in the Gilded Age, girls,
you know you have to find find guys made a
sterner stuff if you want to go up against the
go up against your dad. Although maybe Carl's going back,
so we'll see if he can make it back by himself,
(09:04):
if he can take the boat, I guess I'll take
the boat.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But then it turns out they they're gonna they all
leave that island anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So that's right to the place that they call. So
there's a place on the main island that they usually are.
They were just for this endeavor on prison Island. Where's
the place with all the little houses and the muffins
in the book that where they're going back to where
they're going I guess so this was the place with
(09:36):
the cages in the yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
In the underwater operating theater, right, sure.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Alrighty then sure sure.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Don't ask this show to make sense, Terry.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
How much did they spend on sets for this thing? Man?
And you know they did the the switcheroo where you
see Jack walking on the beach but it's in Thailand.
Gotcha made you light?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And that little boy who's selling him soda.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, and then runs from him later on, but he's marked.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
He's marked well.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And parenting tip. You know, I'm not going to say
tell your kid never to get a tattoo, but find
a reputable dealer and make sure you know what that
individual is putting on you, and make sure it won't
get you beaten up on the.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Bench, Like maybe don't do have them do it? Force
them to Yes, maybe not that tattoo to your body, Like.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Just because you hate yourself that much. Just get me
in as much trouble as possible, will you please? I
feel like.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Getting pad beaten up.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yep, that's about where he is at that point. But
do we know did he ever mention going there in
a previous episode, like I'm done with this, I'm going
to Thailand, Or are we just supposed to think he
had some vacation time at the hospital, or that we're
supposed to think this is him hitting bottom, or just yeah,
(11:31):
don't ask questions, Terry, it's lost.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's a question. I don't recall this being addressed before
in the Jack timeline.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I mean, did he hear that his ex wife was
going on a honeymoon to Thailand and so he followed her?
There is his dad there someplace? Or is he just
I'm going to go to the ends of the earth.
And I put my finger down on a globe and
here I am.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's still very messed up individual then and now and
always probably. You know, one thing we learn here parenting
tip wise is teach your child how to fly a kite.
Teach them young, help them to know how to do
it so that they're not on a beach and some
(12:25):
trouble young woman who will be trouble comes up and
helps him. And you know what, just it's a shouldn't
be too hard. You know, Jack's dad didn't teach him.
Add that to the list of things you know, you
you say. Charles Woodmore got another check in the evil
column last week. That's another check in the Jack's dad
(12:45):
evil column. Didn't teach his son to fly a kite.
Too busy with his doctor and stuff, Too busy saving
people's lives to teach his child to fly a kit
No wonder Jack is such a mess. I bet you
a sawyer never had his dad teach him to fly akite.
(13:08):
Probably locks dad definitely didn't teach him. Maybe out a window,
but not Charlie's. Yes See, that's the problem. If all
the people on this island had had their dad teach
them how to fly a kite, how much happier being here,
wouldn't be here. Nope, nope, nope. I bet every time
(13:30):
we meet somebody's dad, we're going to have to ask ourselves.
Did he teach his son how to fly a kite
or his daughter how to fly a kite? I bet
it's no all around so lost doing a service demonstrating
the essential activity teaching your kid. Have you ever flew
Have you ever flew a kite gathered? You know, not
(13:51):
a fly kite?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I mean, I don't feel like it's that hard. Yes,
he also was having trouble just assembling the kite in
the first that's true, and he needed help from high
heels on the beach girl.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, to do it right there. You know.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah. I was like, oh, still feels like a scam.
The minute she showed up, I was like, he no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh well yeah, my husband could not understand why he
had anything to do with her, and you know, basically
the entire episode, but that in specific, so just because
the script says right here in the script, yeah, yeah,
So I think I've flown a kite, but I don't.
(14:44):
I think I think the flight the kites I have
flown did not require assembly. I think you just kind
of held them up and or your dad did. No,
my dad was not a running with a kite kind
of guy. He was older than that. But somebody must
have done it, yeah, because it would you know. I'm
(15:07):
not on an island someplace. My life is not a tragic,
tragic mess. So somewhere someone in my past must have
flown a kite with me. Yeah. And another parenting tip,
be careful with who gives your kids pep talks. You know,
if you're gonna, if you're gonna send uncle Sawyer to
(15:29):
go talk to the kid, go over a few points
ahead of time to make sure that they're gonna tell
your kid to do the right thing and not give
bad advice and not make fun of them and give
them nickboks. So maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Although it's it's kind of, you know, a rite of
passage to get a nickname from Sawyer.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So that is true. I think you had gotten several,
probably in the canoe, though I think it called him
many things. Oh my, So we had another round of
the Ben is gonna die again unless we get Jack
to work on him again. What are we gonna do again?
(16:18):
So Ethan was their surgeon? Is that what Ben said? Yes,
we had an excellent surgeon. His name was Ethan. That
guy was a surgeon. Would you let that guy cut
into you? I don't think so. Thanks, I'm sorry, you're
just too creepy. Do you have any other doctors? Maybe
I could just die and'd be okay. But if you
only have one surgeon, why are you sending him out
(16:41):
on stupid miss?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Right? Yeah, they sent him.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Why would you not keep him close to home?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well fed and happy. I guess he was capturing Claire.
But still you have the thugs for that, You have
Tom and the other.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You had Danny, who you don't have anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Right, right, you had a variety of expendable persons to
go out and do that. Why are you sending each
good question? Keep him, keep him close to home, give
him a cage, you know, don't let him go. These
people aren't thinking things through and oh so much so
(17:21):
much storytelling going all over the place, never to be
seen again. So what somebody said to Jack that he
is a great leader, which makes him lonely, frightened and angry. Well, yeah,
he's all those.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know? Does that mean, like you know, as a parent,
you're supposed to be a leader. So yeah, I mean,
if we're a good parent, we're lonely and agree.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Or is that just Jet?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I hope it's just Jack.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I hope it's just although you know, when you're a
leader and you have to make the decisions, can be
kind of lonely frightened. I think parents are frightened the
fair amount of the time. What if this thing I've
done doesn't work? What if this thing I'd done worse? Yes,
too well or not in the way I expected to?
(18:13):
And why want everybody just do what I say? So
there's lonely frightened to day. Yeah, it's the mark of
a leader. But I ain't going to get a tattooed
on my arm. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, especially not
some weird tattoo that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, it was like a brand and yeah it's like
a you know, a hot thing on a stick.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And what the heck did they do to Juliette's back? Yeah, yeah,
it looks it seemed to me she wouldn't have been
able to crouch down.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like she did, yeah, to get the aloe.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah if they had if because it looked like a
burn or something.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, it looked like a brand also, so.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That made me wonder if it was fake. But at
any rate, she's just has a high tolerance for pain.
She's as a strong girl. And I can't remember, honestly
what the deal is with her, but I just feel
like every time she's in peril and they use that
to get Jack to do something, it's a setup, right,
(19:19):
and the way that he falls for it absolutely every
time without fail, you know, must bring them a great
deal of pleasure. Juliette anyway, Yeah, they'll do it to
save me. It'll be fine. I bunch of messed up
(19:40):
people here, for sure, that's not in this case. Kind
of boring people do. But the issue with the setting
an ending date for this series was that as long
as they didn't know how many more or less how
many episodes they had to tell their story with, they
had to keep vamping, and season three was heavy on that.
(20:03):
And so once they had a end date, then they
could plan their story out on the number of episodes
that they had and theoretically make it tighter. Not that
they didn't go on plot safari from time to time,
but you know, and I think that there were probably
(20:24):
if when this one aired they said, oh yeah, stop
doing this stuff. There were still some things in the
pipeline that hadn't been shown yet see xpas coming in
a few episodes. But yeah, this one, they did not
cover themselves with more Jack's tattoos. Yeah, nothing else to
(20:51):
talk about. We're down to the tattoos. We're sure you've
all seen the tattoos and wondered. I have seen the tattoos,
but I wonder what we get next week. See next Tuesday,
we will continue with a season three episode ten of Lost,
(21:13):
Tricia Tanaka is Dead, which is a Hurly episode that
I remember being kind of a hoot. I hope I
remembering correct, Okay, but you know Hurly early. It's a
good time.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So yeah, except they don't like hope.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, I just remember this being maybe it's just because
it came after Strange Land and was like, oh, thank goodness,
is better. It does not have to do with Jack's tattoos.
Yeah who, but yeah, I remember it's being kind of fun.
So we will see you next week to watch that,
and we'll see you back here tomorrow to discuss the
(21:53):
Gilded Age where nobody is getting weird tattoos. But I
would like to tie down Aurora's husband and maybe mark
him as a weasome way, maybe with weasels branded across
his forehead will.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Be okay, I think Agnes will join you.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
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